Intel Behind Trump’s Syria Attack Questioned

by Ray McGovern, via Information Clearing House

The mainstream media is so hostile to challenges to its groupthinks that famed journalist Seymour Hersh had to take his take-down of President Trump’s April 6 attack on Syria to Germany, says ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern.


June 26, 2017 “Information Clearing House” – Legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh is challenging the Trump administration’s version of events surrounding the April 4 “chemical weapons attack” on the northern Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun – though Hersh had to find a publisher in Germany to get his information out.
In the Sunday edition of Die Welt, Hersh reports that his national security sources offered a distinctly different account, revealing President Trump rashly deciding to launch 59 Tomahawk missiles against a Syrian airbase on April 6 despite the absence of intelligence supporting his conclusion that the Syrian military was guilty.
Hersh draws on the kind of inside sources from whom he has earned longstanding trust to dispute that there ever was a “chemical weapons attack” and to assert that Trump was told that no evidence existed against the Syrian government but ordered “his generals” to “retaliate” anyway.
Marine General Joseph Dunford, Chairman of the, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and former Marine General, now Defense Secretary James “Mad-Dog” Mattis ordered the attacks apparently knowing that the reason given was what one of Hersh’s sources called a “fairy tale.”
They then left it to Trump’s national security adviser Army General H. R. McMaster to further the deceit with the help of a compliant mainstream media, which broke from its current tradition of distrusting whatever Trump says in favor of its older tradition of favoring “regime change” in Syria and trusting pretty much whatever the “rebels” claim.
According to Hersh’s sources, the normal “deconfliction” process was followed before the April 4 strike. In such procedures, U.S. and Russian officers supply one another with advance details of airstrikes, such as target coordinates, to avoid accidental confrontations among the warplanes crisscrossing Syria.
Russia and Syrian Air Force officers gave details of the flight path to and from Khan Sheikhoun in English, Hersh reported. The target was a two-story cinderblock building in which senior leaders – “high-value targets” – of the two jihadist groups controlling the town were about to hold a meeting. Because of the perceived importance of the mission, the Russians took the unusual step of giving the Syrian air force a GPS-guided bomb to do the job, but the explosives were conventional, not chemical, Hersh reported.
The meeting place was on the floor above the basement of the building, where a source whom Hersh described as “a senior adviser to the U.S. intelligence community,” told Hersh: “The basement was used as storage for rockets, weapons, and ammunition … and also chlorine-based decontaminates for cleansing the bodies of the dead before burial.”

A Bomb Damage Assessment

Hersh describes what happened when the building was struck on the morning of April 4:

A Bomb Damage Assessment by the U.S. military later determined that the heat and force of the 500-pound Syrian bomb triggered a series of secondary explosions that could have generated a huge toxic cloud that began to spread over the town, formed by the release of fertilizers, disinfectants, and other goods stored in the basement, its effect magnified by the dense morning air, which trapped the fumes close to the ground.
According to intelligence estimates, the strike itself killed up to four jihadist leaders and an unknown number of drivers and security aides. There is no confirmed count of the number of civilians killed by the poisonous gases that were released by the secondary explosions, although opposition activists reported that there were more than 80 dead, and outlets such as CNN have put the figure as high as 92.”

Due to the fog of war, which is made denser by the fact that jihadists associated with Al Qaeda control the area, many of the details of the incident were unclear on that day and remain so still. No independent on-the-ground investigation has taken place.
But there were other reasons to doubt Syrian guilt, including the implausibility of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad choosing that time – while his forces were making dramatic strides in finally defeating the jihadists and immediately after the Trump administration had indicated it had reversed President Obama’s “regime change” policy in Syria – to launch a sarin attack, which was sure to outrage the world and likely draw U.S. retaliation.
However, logic was brushed aside after local “activists,” including some closely tied to the jihadists, quickly uploaded all manner of images onto social media, showing dead and dying children and other victims said to be suffering from sarin nerve gas. Inconsistencies were brushed aside – such as the “eyewitness” who insisted, “We could smell it from 500 meters away” when sarin is odorless.

Potent Images

Still, whether credible or not, these social-media images had a potent propaganda effect. Hersh writes that within hours of watching the gruesome photos on TV – and before he had received any U.S. intelligence corroboration – Trump told his national security aides to plan retaliation against Syria. According to Hersh, it was an evidence-free decision, except for what Trump had seen on the TV shows.
Hersh quotes one U.S. officer who, upon learning of the White House decision to “retaliate” against Syria, remarked:

“We KNOW that there was no chemical attack…the Russians are furious – claiming we have the real intel and know the truth…”

A similar event had occurred on Aug. 21, 2013, outside Damascus – and although the available evidence now points to a “false-flag” provocation pulled off by the jihadists to trick the West into mounting a full-fledged assault on Assad’s military, Western media still blames that incident on Assad, too.
In the Aug. 21, 2013 case, social media also proved crucial in creating and pushing the Assad-did-it narrative. On Aug. 30, 2013, then-Secretary of State John Kerry pinned the responsibility on Assad no fewer than 35 times, even though earlier that week National Intelligence Director James Clapper had warned President Obama privately that Assad’s culpability was “not a slam dunk.”
Kerry was fond of describing social media as an “extraordinarily useful tool,” and it sure did come in handy in supporting Kerry’s repeated but unproven charges against Assad, especially since the U.S. government had invested heavily in training and equipping Syrian “activists” to dramatize their cause. (The mainstream media also has ignored evidence that the jihadists staged at least one chlorine gas attack. And, as you may recall, President George W. Bush also spoke glowingly about the value of “catapulting the propaganda.”)

Implications for U.S.-Russia

To the extent Hersh’s account finds its way into Western corporate media, most likely it will be dismissed out of hand simply because it dovetails with Moscow’s version of what happened and thus is, ipso facto, “wrong.”
But the Russians (and the Syrians) know what did happen – and if there really was no sarin bombing – they recognize Trump’s reckless resort to Tomahawks and the subsequent attempts to cover up for the President. All this will have repercussions.
This is as tense a time in U.S-Russian relations as I can remember from my five decades of experience watching Russian defense and foreign policy. It is left to the Russians to figure out which is worse: a President controlled by “his generals” or one who is so out of control that “his generals” are the ones who must restrain him.
With Russia reiterating its threat to target any unannounced aircraft flying in Syrian airspace west of the Euphrates, Russian President Putin could authorize his own generals to shoot first and ask questions later. Then, hold onto your hat.
As of this writing, there is no sign in “mainstream media” of any reporting on Hersh’s groundbreaking piece. It is a commentary on the conformist nature of today’s Western media that an alternative analysis challenging the conventional wisdom – even when produced by a prominent journalist like Sy Hersh – faces such trouble finding a place to publish.
The mainstream hatred of Assad and Putin has reached such extraordinary levels that pretty much anything can be said or written about them with few if any politicians or journalists daring to express doubts regardless of how shaky the evidence is.
Even the London Review of Books, which published Hersh’s earlier debunking of the Aug. 21, 2013 sarin-gas incident, wouldn’t go off onto the limb this time despite having paid for his investigation.
According to Hersh, the LRB did not want to be “vulnerable to criticism for seeming to take the view of the Syrian and Russia governments when it came to the April 4 bombing in Khan Sheikhoun.” So much for diversity of thought in today’s West.
Yet, what was interesting about the Khan Sheikhoun case is that was a test of whom the mainstream media detested more. The MSM has taken the position that pretty much whatever Trump says is untrue or at least deserving of intense fact-checking. But the MSM also believes whatever attacks on Assad that the Syrian “activists” post on social media are true and disbelieves whatever Putin says. So, this was a tug-of-war on which prejudices were stronger – and it turned out that the antipathy toward Syria and Russia is more powerful than the distrust of Trump.

Ignoring Critics

The MSM bought into Trump’s narrative to such a degree that any criticism, no matter how credentialed the critic, gets either ignored or ridiculed.
For instance, the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity produced a memo on April 11 questioning Trump’s rush to judgment. Former MIT professor Ted Postol, a specialist in applying science to national security incidents, also poked major holes in the narrative of a government sarin attack. But the MSM silence was deafening.
In remarks to Die Welt, Seymour Hersh, who first became famous for exposing the My Lai massacre story during the Vietnam War and disclosed the Abu Ghraib abuse story during the Iraq War, explained that he still gets upset at government lying and at the reluctance of the media to hold governments accountable:

We have a President in America today who lies repeatedly … but he must learn that he cannot lie about intelligence relied upon before authorizing an act of war. There are those in the Trump administration who understand this, which is why I learned the information I did. If this story creates even a few moments of regret in the White House, it will have served a very high purpose.”

But it may be that the Germans reading Welt am Sonntag may be among the few who will get the benefit of Hersh’s contrarian view of the April 4 incident in Khan Sheikhoun. Perhaps they will begin to wonder why Chancellor Angela Merkel continues with her “me-too” approach to whatever Washington wants to do regarding tensions with Russia and warfare in Syria.
Will Merkel admit that she was likely deceived in parroting Washington’s line making the Syrian government responsible for a “massacre with chemical weapons” on April 4? Mercifully, most Americans will be spared having to choose between believing President Trump and Seymour Hersh.

Ray McGovern works with the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. During his 27 years as a CIA analyst, he was Chief of the Soviet Foreign Policy Branch; he also prepared the President’s Daily Brief, and conducted the early morning briefings of President Reagan’s top national security advisers.
This article was first published by Consortium News

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H. Rap Brown Is asked If there ever was a Black President?
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archie1954
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Now over a month later, the US is lying again and attempting to get the World ready for another attack on Assad’s forces by stating that Assad is planning “another” chemical attack on his own people. We know that no chemical attack was made the last time, so another one is impossible. I hope the Russians are ready to shoot down any missile flying towards a Syrian target from US ships or planes. Someone has to bell the rabid cat.

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AMN reports that 3 American AWACs have been patrolling off the coast of Syria. In a separate syndicated report: Matt Lee of AP reports that the Pentagon has seen signs of preparation for a chemical attack. Guess where? Ash Shai’rat. They must be loading the imaginary sarin that wasn’t there the first time they attacked?
http://theduran.com/breaking-pentagon-justifies-white-house-chemical-weapons-statement/

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It seems the Anglo-zionist media has instigated a thoroughgoing political inquisition, a quite unprecedented peace-time reign of terror with regard to the current geopolitical crisis. Any brave soul who does not follow and repeat the narrative of the media hive-mind will be subjected to relentless calumny and vituperation from both the media whores and their political allies. What we face is no less than a massive attack on reason and morality by crypto-medievalist mysticism in the service of power. As no less a personage than George Washington once said, borrowing the famous axiom from the British radical Thomas Paine, ‘these… Read more »

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OffG; forgive the double post – but it seems that I have a differing view on the Hersh report… “Re: Hersh report – facts? I read the original report and I am bemused. How did 24 TLAMs (Tomahawk missiles) with at least 5 guidance systems – including satellite data linkage; GPS; terrain mapping; linkage to the Ross or Porter control ship and to other missiles if necessary – get lost in a bit of smoke? Weren’t they designed to operate in battlefield conditions where thick smoke is probably going to be encountered? A lot. Can ISIS protect themselves by burning… Read more »

Norman Pilon
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I suspect that you are correct, BigB. Hersh seems to be playing the part of a cog in the control and command mechanism of the American establishment. The “Russian-Trump collusion” accusation is now approaching exhaustion, and something else now needs to fill that void, something else by which to keep Trump on his leash – or rather, to continue deflecting attention away from where real responsibility for anything lies (i.e. the military-industrial-intelligence complex & Co.). At the very least, like Chomsky and his ilk — what we might designate as the pseudo-left — he operates within the purview of an… Read more »

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BigB

Absolutely Norman, in the broader context, Sy’s debunking of the mainstream narrative is useful: his veteran heavyweight reputation gives us impetus – but against whom? Expendable and probably inconsequential politicians? Meanwhile the truly repressive mechanisms are still at work. Maybe I was making a point for the purists and the converted: but the CIA/Pentagon/MIC are out of control. Trump certainly has neither clue nor control. The picture Hersh paints of military and intelligence moral rectitude doesn’t square with empirical reality. Today Mattis said the Pentagon had evidence of “active preparations” at Ash Shai’rat for another chemical attack: and that “I… Read more »

Norman Pilon
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Entirely agree!
Hersh writes in manner that deflects attention away from the real nexus of American power, maintaining the illusion for his readership that the the CIA/Pentagon/MIC are actually under government oversight, i.e., putatively under the control of an accountable body of elected representatives.
The truth is rather different: effectively, these unaccountable bureaucracies most emphatically do not operate under the auspices of the state, but as the state itself.
If this is the case — and it is — the U.S. is ipso facto a totalitarian regime.
See the post by Husq: H. R. Brown essentially makes the same point that you do.

John
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John

It has always seemed to me that the assassination of JFK revealed very little as to the workings of the deep state. They were able to suborn or silence everyone involved in that escapade. Far more revealing was the series of enquiries into the activities of Oliver North. There was an example of a President and administration which was totally out of touch with what was going on. North was clearly involved in a whole host of activities, none of which were publicly known about or authorised. Congress knew nothing about North’s activities until they held enquiries into the activities… Read more »

mohandeer
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John. Re Oliver North, it was in US(deep state) interests to muddy the waters, make contra claims and bury the truth by obfuscation of all related events wherever they were occurring and to redirect by sleight of hand and smoke and mirrors so that no-one could really track who did what. This is probably true as far back as Lincoln’s assassination and likely to continue as it is currently until becoming POTUS is viewed as hazardous to one’s health. Nothing is beyond the ridiculous and certainly not in the realm of “conspiracy theory nuts” since invariably real truths and facts… Read more »

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Susan: In his last act as POTUS, Bush the Greater Evil pardoned all those with charges against them – including the pre-emptive pardon of Weinberger. Other than Nixon, that’s the only other time that’s been done. I think that’s called self-preservation; or perhaps Deep State preservation?

mohandeer
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Bush and his grandpappy certainly had their fingers in some very rotten pies and avoiding prosecution for his corruption would certainly have been in his best interests, so it is no stretch of the imagination where mutually benefiting interests overlapped, any and all CIA/Deep state assets would be given a get out of jail card. I’m a firm believer in the deep state, not just in the US but in the UK and various other nation states. Wealth and power going back many years have always been the puppeteers, but I won’t speak further here since it is far reaching… Read more »

BigB
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Agreed. Iran/Contra turned over the stone and briefly exposed the Deep State. Most particularly, the existence of the very “Continuity of Government” programme to which I refer. The ‘Shadow Government’ is not a concept as such, as many continue to think – it is a functioning actuality; only (partially) revealed in the so called ‘Deep Events’. Peter Dale Scott is the go to source for Deep Politics. I also recommend Webster Tarpleys “Unauthorised Biography of George Bush Snr”… You don’t think North acted on his own initiative? Probably the only true thing he said was that he was only following… Read more »

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Exactly!!! The whitewash is that the Intelligence Community (IC)/Pentagon are stacked full of patriots that the democratically (???) elected political Executive ignore. The skein for the Proles is that if they elect a ‘strong leader’ – Tulsi Gabbard for instance – then they will bring the IC/Pentagon under Executive and Judicial control and “make America great again”… Closer to the truth is that the IC/Pentagon are run for and by a Shadow Government/Deep State/MIC that work directly for the real money and powerbrokers – the supranational apolitical >1%. Politics is ‘bread and circuses’ for the Proles. The real powerbase ensures… Read more »

mohandeer
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Glad you entered into the fray Norman. I like BigB even though I don’t always agree with everything he says, he is honest and fair. It would certainly be a strange world if we all agreed on everything so your response was very much what I wish I could have given. I followed the link he gave and found the Nation Post very intelligible. There really are some excellent commenters on this site and only one lame troll who left when he couldn’t find a footing.
🙂 Susan.

BigB
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BigB

Susan: it would be a bland and uninteresting world if we all agreed. And what would we have to learn! 🙂

mohandeer
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You seem to have a very good handle on things, as does Norman, so now you have me wondering about Sy Hersh(I found an old article of his and it was of a very different slant)and also your previous mention:”You guys can call it factual: I’m calling it a limited hangout to whitewash the CIA/Pentagon – Hersh’s real employers. Those missiles didn’t get lost in smoke; no matter how thick.” Although I wouldn’t put any faith in Raytheon, it does give me pause for thought on what the real intention of bombing Shayrat? air base was. Certain people have suggested… Read more »

BigB
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Re: the attack on Ash Shai’rat – I think John just answered that: ratings. Simple as. I speculated in comments on these two articles on this site: “A multi-level analysis of the US cruise missile attack on Syria and its consequences” “MIT Professor says White House claims of Syrian chemical attack “cannot be true”” Subsequent to these, I remember Assad saying that Syria basically had no air defence on the night; their S-200s had been taken out in the ‘civil uprising’ or terrorist takeover. The Russians have ‘superior’ electronic warfare capabilities: whether they used them is a moot point. There… Read more »

mohandeer
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Hi again BigB.
Just realised you said Syria’s S-200’s. I thought Russia had brought in the S300 minimum as promised also to Iran. Really will have to pay more attention to my Syrian sites and Col. Cassad, if I’m going to keep up. Feel like I have lost the plot with regard the S300 delivery back in 2016, unless of course they are based elsewhere. Fiddlesticks!

BigB
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Good point, well made. Assad claims 50% of his S-200s were knocked out at the beginning of the war: I presume in 2012/13? But he got the S-300 in 2013. It would appear Mr Assad adds to the mystery!
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201704211052843978-assad-air-defense-us-missiles/
https://sputniknews.com/voiceofrussia/news/2013_05_30/Syria-gets-first-batch-of-Russia-S-300-missiles-Assad-6642/

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In the same way as the so-called UK nuclear deterrent is “independent” so too may be Assad’s missile systems. By which I mean that just as the US in reality controls the UK’s nuclear deterrent missile system so too may Russia control Syria’s missile system so that they can only be launched with Russian approval. While the Syrians might be tempted to fire off the missiles, there may be an over-riding control which the Russians exercise to ensure that no hasty actions by the Syrians triggers conflict between Russia and the US. That – at least – is my guess.… Read more »

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I believe Russia wanted to install its missiles in Cuba because, at the time, they had an extremely limited ability to strike from the USSR. So they would have retained control. No disrespect to you, but I think we could end up playing ‘Blind Man’s Bluff’ – neither side want the other to know their operational capability – and they certainly don’t want us to know! I believe that Syria was in control of its own air space at the time; and the Russian systems weren’t active as part of the deconfliction protocols. Why it might have suited the Russians… Read more »

mohandeer
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BigB. Came across another chat between Sey Hersh and Ken Klippenstein on Alexsandr Dugin’s The Fourth Rev. War site(by Zakira Entradi). Sy seems to be evasive and non committal about various aspects(he is definitely dodging the issues of some of KK’s questions)which would seem to confirm your previous suspicions regarding exactly where Hersh stands – or should that be sits, as in “on the fence” when it comes to certain questions. After hearing your views and taking them on board, Sy is talking a lot but not saying too much, I ‘m hearing a lot better, thanks to you(and Norman… Read more »

John
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Does anyone seriously believe Trump ordered the missile attack on Syria as a result of his emotional response to alleged pictures of injured children? Time to grow up, folks! Why did he approve the dropping of a MOAB in Afghanistan? In both cases, because his approval ratings were dipping to record lows, and he believed – rightly enough – that his gung-ho supporters would flock back to his standard if he threw some explosives at foreigners. Trump does have a single principled bone in his body. He’s the mafia’s man in the White House. He’s just doing what it takes… Read more »

mohandeer
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A lot of US servicemen are mightily pissed off for voting Trump over Clinton, precisely because they thought Trump would get them “the f*** out of this shithole” with his (as it turns out)empty promises. According to one site the number of service personnel opting out on return from deployment has seen a big up tick recently. A quote from memory “we’re training ******* terrorists out here and there’s nothing moderate about them”. granted I cannot know the veracity of the quotes, since they are given anonymously, but even so……

John
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John

It really didn’t matter who was elected – Trump or Clinton.
Both had daughters married to ultra-extremist zionists.
Whoever the US public voted for didn’t matter.
They would still end up with the zio-military-industrial-financial complex in charge.
If Sanders had stopped the Clinton theft of the candidacy then things might have turned out differently.
But Sanders did not really have the cojones to withstand the Clinton mob manipulations and so lost out.
So, too, did the people of the United States.
Maybe he never really wanted to win?

mohandeer
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BigB. https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905618/We-got-a-fuckin-problem.html If you think De Welt would put this lot up without checking the facts, you are mistaken. Hersh is nobody but his own man. WELT AM SONNTAG is aware of the location of the deployment. For security reasons, certain details of military operations have been omitted. I don’t speak German and the translation is bad but the German social media is exalting Hersh and so are some of the big US sites. You’re on your own on this. One of the comments on US blog site(possibly Vet.Today)explains how and why the Tomahawks can and do go astray. He’s… Read more »

BigB
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BigB

Fair enough, we’ll have to disagree on this one. Maybe not on this site, but not everyone rates Sy so highly – Doug Valentine calls him “CIA-mour Hersh” – he’s been doing limited hangouts since 1969. If someone can point me to his follow up piece, where he admits he got it completely wrong about My Lai; I’ll gladly read it. BTW: by his analysis 35/36 TLAMs hit Ash Shai’rat – even with a reduced payload (220lbs of LBX) – they didn’t do much damage? Russians admitted 23 strikes. Something doesn’t add up – somewhere there are some missing missiles???… Read more »

mohandeer
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Hi BigB. With regards Raytheon, I’ve already come across an article which was linked from a main site some time ago. Someone who is well into tactical deployment etc.(I’m a dunce on the subject). Apparently this is not the first time Raytheon would rather not have to explain why their babies didn’t reach their target, they have had to refute “reports” on their performance previously. Then of course there was the Patriot versus scud debacle in which the Patriot was denounced for it’s apparent failure in the Persian Gulf War(I do remember that one)and it was a member of the… Read more »

BigB
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BigB

Susan: I’m not really arguing about the content of the article: more the subtle shift in the onus of blame – away from Pompeo, Votel onto Trump. Mad Dog Mattis, Dunceford, and McMaster hardly get a mention. The mention Mattis gets is a ‘thank heavens for the military!!! The CIA were all “playing the game right”… If Trump had gone with the ‘Obama’ option – there would have been immediate resignations… Please, gimme a break… these are probably the same guys that ordered Khan Shaikhun… the retaliation… then had it rubberstamped by Trump – not the other way around. 🙂… Read more »

mohandeer
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Really enjoyed the article in the Nation you gave me a link for.
Many thanks!

mohandeer
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Can’t and won’t argue with your very astute and valid points. Whilst some on alt. news are saying Trump was upset and sad about the kids being killed(doesn’t seem to bother him in Mosel), I’m not entirely convinced he just doesn’t want to admit he is owned by the CIA and it is they who are now shifting the blame onto him. What a fouled up way to run a country – nearly as bad a Britain.

John
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John

I have a friend who subscribes to the theory that the Pentagon – not the White House – runs America.
The POTUS – he claims – is mere window-dressing, so the US can make the claim it is a democracy.
Being President is prestigious and provides a base for amazing wealth for life.
Other than that, the presidency is just a front man – so far.

BigB
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BigB

The Pentagon run foreign policy: in Trump’s case that is no theory. Even on the campaign trail he indicated he would defer to his Generals: that’s exactly what he has been doing. According to the Nation, everything runs through the Mattis /McMaster axis. In turn, his Generals have empowered local commanders to act independently. 10 days after Khan Sheikhoun, a local commander in Afghanistan dropped the MOAB on his own authority: pretty scary when you think about it.
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-military-now-runs-us-foreign-policy/

mohandeer
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I certainly didn’t realise the commander who dropped the MOAB was given carte blanch to do so. Thanks for the heads up and also the link to the nation.

BigB
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BigB

Susan: PS. getting an article rejected is sure to draw attention to it? You know all about ‘Mockingbird’; but have you read Udo Ulfkotte “Journalists for HIre: How the CIA Buys the News”? Perception management is very subtle… Probably a complete coincidence that he died of a ‘heart attack’…

mohandeer
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Heart attack?
Yeah, what a coincidence indeed. And how convenient.
Did you hear the one about pigs might fly?

mohandeer
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Just been on to Norman Pilon’s blog (Taking Sides) a welcome visitor to OffG comments section. He found an article from Wall of Controversy devoted to Si Hersh and Die Welt: “Seymour Hersh is perhaps most highly respected investigative journalist alive today. He earned his reputation as the first to bring the world’s attention to the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. During the Syrian War, Hersh has twice investigated claims that Assad crossed chemical “red lines”, first in Ghouta in August 2013, and more recently in the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun last April. The evidence he has uncovered disproves… Read more »

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It is truly a nightmare that we are faced with so many useless, mentally ill and sociopathic politicians leading us in what is now an exceptionally dangerous situation. Assad has not in recent years by all accounts used chemicals on his people, it has been fabricated in order to use war for profit and regime change. The UK will sadly follow suit, intent as Mays government are to further enrich the already super rich and create a serfdom for the rest in their new Brexit offshore haven, the people in the UK are an irrelevance as has been proven by… Read more »

mohandeer
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Reblogged this on Worldtruth.

mohandeer
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Many thanks for this article. Some really good journalism makes it’s way onto off-G. Intel Today has also covered Si’s accounts.(A much smaller site, keen but limited). Have to wonder whether there is a feeling that because the MSM has lied so much they are fearful of how stupid and unreliably dishonest they will be perceived and cannot bring themselves to say “Oops, we were wrong” It’s quite amazing that the MSM has dedicated so much front page space to vilifying Trump, yet when he does something totally reckless and dangerous in defiance of any evidence supporting his actions, he… Read more »

John
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John

I concur fully with mohandeer’s statement but would go further by saying that he – and all of us – must remember just what the global mass media actually is. It is a propaganda outlet for the rich, powerful and famous. It does not exist to tell the truth but to enhance the power of the already powerful. Individuals who work within the mass media are more concerned about adding to their own characteristics as a “brand” in order to maximise their own incomes, as well as their own power as communicators and actors. Increasingly, it is niche publications like… Read more »

mohandeer
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Hi John. Thanks for the link to Lobster.
🙂 Susan

John
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John

Sorry: The Lobster correct URL is http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk.
I thoroughly recommend it.

mohandeer
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John: “It does not exist to tell the truth but to enhance the power of the already powerful.”
Potent and very true.

John
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John

If the terrorists manufacture another incident and Trump responds in the predictable way, I wonder if the Syrians will simply say “Sod it” and shoot down US aircraft and/or missiles?
Then, the ground will have been laid for a full-out war right across the whole of the Middle East.
Ultimately, it will be Trump’s stupidity and incompetence that will be blamed for this.
Trump will go down in history as the Gavrilo Princip of the 21st Century.

mohandeer
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The war you fear will not be limited to the ME. Russia and China know this is a possibility given the insanity prevailing in the White House, past and present. We keep our fingers crossed that the millions now aware of the MSM duplicity with Imperialist right wing governments thanks to sites on the Social Media still dedicated to the truth, will rise up and cause enough trouble to stop the few slaughtering the many.

Dead World Walking
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Dead World Walking

“France will be completely aligned with the US on this”
That says it all.
Aligned with the most rapacious empire in history.
Doom approaches.

Husq
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Oooh, look. Right on cue. Wed Jun 21, 2017 President Emmanuel Macron said on Wednesday he saw no legitimate successor to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and France no longer considered his departure a pre-condition to resolving the six-year-old conflict. “The use of chemical weapons will see a response, including by France alone,” he said. “France will therefore be completely aligned with the United States on this.” http://www.reuters.com/…/us-mideast-crisis-syria-france-idU… Tuesday 27 June 2017 The White House has declared that it believes Bashar al-Assad’s regime is preparing to carry out another chemical weapons attack, and warned that the Syrian leader and his military… Read more »