A Provocation to Investigate the Las Vegas Massacre

by Edward Curtin, from edwardcurtin.com

Cram them full of non-combustible data, chock them so damned full of ‘facts’ they feel stuffed, but absolutely brilliant with information. Then they’ll feel they’re thinking, they’ll get a sense of motion without moving.” Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451, 1951

It is not only information that they need – in the age of Fact, information often dominates their attention and overwhelms their capacities to assimilate it….What they need , and what they feel they need , is a quality of mind that will help them to use information and to develop reason in order to achieve lucid summations of what is going on in the world and of what may be happening within themselves.” C. Wright Mills, The Sociological Imagination, 1959

The main stream media’s (MSM) ongoing narrative of the massacre in Las Vegas is clearly deceptive. This is nothing new. That is their modus operandi. Overwhelm people with a glut of information about a terrible tragedy and all becomes clear to people sick-at-heart over the deaths and injuries to innocent people. But it’s a false clarity engendered to confuse. Tell the story big and loud, and tell it repetitively from different angles, and It becomes hard to think straight, especially with the addition of all the sad stories of the innocent victims’ deaths and injuries. Who can forget the false official narrative that was spun amid the grief for all the innocent victims of the attacks of September 11, 2001. Few could think straight at the time.
The MSM tells us in detail about Stephen Paddock’s gambling life, his houses and real estate dealings, how much he paid for them, his gun collection numbering 47, including all those in his hotel room (23), the alleged exact number of rounds he had in his car (1,600), how he shot from his hotel room windows, etc. We are told what his brother and girlfriend say about him: they are shocked; he was just a regular guy; they can’t explain it. We are told how he got the room gratis, how long he stayed there, and that he was planning to escape (they say this with a straight face). Told how many people died (59) and how many were injured (527), we remember these numbers vaguely, especially the latter. A regular person just feels overwhelmed by all the information, the numbers; saddened and depressed for all the victims, and more afraid.
A mystery is created, an endless mystery that can be pondered and pseudo-debated ad infinitum: why would a seemingly normal, if slightly eccentric, man do such an horrendous thing? Why did he “snap”? Was there something wrong with his brain? But if he “snapped,” why did he buy so many guns over a long period of time? Is snapping consistent with long-term planning? Was he mentally ill? The national “conversation,” as they like to call it, will revolve around guns and mental health, and the MSM will keep the story going with endless experts offering their opinions. And that endless conversation will divert the public’s attention from the essence of this case and other matters we are not supposed to be focused on at the moment.
What the media do not say is that there is video and witness evidence that there were at least two more shooters, maybe more, one from a lower floor and another at the Bellagio Hotel that was locked down. This means that there was a conspiracy involved. They don’t mention this so that someone like me can do so and be branded a “conspiracy theorist,” the term created by the CIA to besmirch anyone questioning the official narrative of the JFK assassination. You will notice that I am not – purposefully – linking to this evidence that I assert exists, nor am I raising more of the many questions surrounding this case. I am hoping that readers will research these matters themselves, and if they discover that there is evidence proving that there was more than one shooter, then, just as with the magic bullet absurdity in the JFK case, they will conclude, ipso facto, that the MSM are involved in a cover-up of a conspiracy, which is itself a conspiracy – a factual conspiracy, not a conspiracy theory. And if that is so, they will ask why, and who is being protected. Cui bono? Why would the MSM push this narrative of the lonely crazed gunman?
People need to realize that they must be immediately skeptical of such official narratives and do their own research, and they will learn that there are excellent alternative websites that are doing real journalism and are seeking truth for truth’s sake.
While this brief article is not a “lucid summation,” as Mills suggested we need, I offer it as a concise provocation to anyone reading this to develop their own sociological imaginations to achieve such lucidity at a time when propaganda is king and the pawns are being swept off the devil’s chessboard.
One might end up asking: Who’s the devil? And answering their own question?

Edward Curtin is a writer whose work has appeared widely. He teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. His website is http://edwardcurtin.com/

Edward Curtin teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. His writing on varied topics has appeared widely over many years. He writes as a public intellectual for the general public, not as a specialist for a narrow readership. He believes a non-committal sociology is an impossibility and therefore sees all his work as an effort to enhance human freedom through understanding. His website is edwardcurtin.com

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Edward Curtin teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. His writing on varied topics has appeared widely over many years. He writes as a public intellectual for the general public, not as a specialist for a narrow readership. He believes a non-committal sociology is an impossibility and therefore sees all his work as an effort to enhance human freedom through understanding. His website is edwardcurtin.com

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Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

The alleged “mass shooting” at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas on 1st october 2017 was predominantly rooted in the WW2 “Holocaust narrative”, specifically the alleged Aktion reinhard camp at Majdanek, Lublin.
For those on here who do not appear to know much about history, may I suggest that you direct your misguided attention to the alleged “Harvest festival” shootings at Majdanek on 3 / 4 November 1943
Unsurprisngly for the “Holocaust narrative”, the Majdanek, “Aktion Erntefest” or “Harvest Festival” as it has become known, was as about as real as the events in Las Vegas …
MG

Maria Callas
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Read Orlov’s brilliant take on this.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.ie

Empire Of Stupid
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The most powerful evidence that something is wrong with the official narrative is right where it should be: hidden in plain sight. Consider: somebody, or several somebodys, fired hundreds (or thousands) of rounds powerful enough to kill 58 people. We are also told that 527 people were wounded. And yet, not a single one of those 527 wounded has died. As any trauma surgeon will tell you–and several have stated publicly–this is not just highly unlikely, it is downright impossible. Also, look at the photos from the supposed shooter’s hotel room. Anybody that knows one end of a gun from… Read more »

BigB
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BigB

I agree. The lack of spent cartridges, carpet burns, GSR, is proving to be a red herring. The need to find a mound of hot brass is posited a posteriori on the need to account for the mass casualties. The lack of brass is ENTIRELY CONSISTENT with the lack of casualties: only few, even in the alternative media seem willing to draw this logical conclusion. THIS WAS A HOAX (with limited and possibly unintentional casualties – compared to what two shooters could have done if their intent was to inflict maximal casualties.) The “crime scene ” was posed (including Paddock’s… Read more »

Empire Of Stupid
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Yes, absolutely. There are so many lies it’s impossible to discern truth, if any. Whenever I need a chuckle I look at the videos of the crisis actors pretending to handle the mass casualties or pretending to be casualties. The security guard who was supposedly shot at close range by the supposed perp, up and walking around, being interviewed, no sign of a close-range gunshot. Gotta love those invisible flesh wounds that close up with a band-aid. I think of the senator who was actually shot at the ballfield by a gunman; months later, he’s still a wreck, barely mobile… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

Ah yes, “absolute hero” Jesus Campos – who survived a 200 round fusillade with a minor leg wound; did a ‘runner’ from Hannity; disappeared – only to reappear on the Ellen DeGeneris show; where he was sycophantically interviewed because it was “feared he would spill the beans about the shooting timeline if he was grilled by real journalists”? What’s not to find credible about his testimony??? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4996918/Hotel-insisted-Jesus-Campos-appear-Ellen-fearing-lawsuites.html#ixzz4vySoMzXh I linked to information posted on Scalise (on PCR’s website) below. Flaxgirl reposted a video of a real leg op. Compare and contrast with Campos: but also Rock Palermo – who was also… Read more »

Alan
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Alan

Interesting input from Mike Adams at NaturalNews concerning acoustic forensics which he claims proves a secondary shooting position.
https://youtu.be/JxmEFeKy8aI
As for the saturation coverage, whether conspiratorial to a predefined script or to a feeding frenzy connected to profit, one simply attempts respect for those victimised.

Robert
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Robert

Hasn’t it been established that the blinking lights from the 4th floor were from a strobe light? I remember seeing a video showing the blinking continue, even during pauses in the shooting, and I remember a second video in which the strobe light continues to flash in the background while a reporter was giving a report, after cessation of the shooting. Also, if there were a shooter on the 4th floor, wouldn’t he have had to have shot out the window of his suite in order to target concert-goers? This would have been visible for all to see in the… Read more »

Paul Barbara
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Whether there was a shooter o the 4th floor or not:
‘A total of 10 windows were knocked out of Mandalay Bay the night of the shooting, floors 61, 62, 29, 30, and 32?’:
https://www.intellihub.com/a-total-of-10-windows-were-knocked-out-of-m andalay-bay-the-night-of-the-shooting/

Paul Barbara
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I noticed the link has broken up, so here’s my comment again:
Whether there was a shooter on the 4th floor or not:
‘A total of 10 windows were knocked out of Mandalay Bay the night of the shooting, floors 61, 62, 29, 30, and 32?’: (note the list doesn’t include the 4th floor):
https://www.intellihub.com/a-total-of-10-windows-were-knocked-out-of-mandalay-bay-the-night-of-the-shooting/

Greg Bacon
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Greg Bacon

Survivor of Las Vegas Terror Massacre Who Wrote About Multiple Shooters, Found Dead Days after the shooting, Kymberley Suchomel explained to the Victorville Daily Press how she and her friends escaped with their lives as bullets rained down “from all angles” on the 20,000 concertgoers on Oct. 1… Suchomel was also vocal about the fact there was “more than one gunman” involved in the attack, speaking out repeatedly and claiming that Las Vegas police and mainstream media were not providing the public with a truthful account of what happened. “Every single survivor I have talked to also remembers multiple shooters,… Read more »

Paul Barbara
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And as Rocky Palermo said in his reports, all the gates except one were locked minutes before the shooting began, whereas on previous nights they had all been open to exit from.

flaxgirl
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I think the Kymberley Suchomel stuff is completely made up. They banned her FB page and then she died, apparently, in her sleep, a few days later? Seriously, it just goes on and on. They try to cast the suspicion one way when it really should be cast another – or, rather, simply recognised for the massive hoax it is.

BigB
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BigB

I wasn’t going to, but I ended up watching a couple of hours of video today (most of it claiming to be raw.) In all of it the gunfire is quite intermittent – consistent with someone firing and reloading. At no point does it seem to encroach. So I’m not sure Suchomel’s story adds up. At one point (about 9 mins into the shooting ) a taxi driver is sitting by the lobby of the Mandalay Bay – the shooter is still above. But don’t take my word for it: the videos are still up on LiveLeak.

Greg Bacon
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On a number of Las Vegas videos, it’s easy to hear the sound of TWO different weapons being fired, some fire is at the same time, meaning it was NOT the work of the lone wolf type the FBI is braying about. I base that on my experience in firing my 7.62 caliber assault rifle hundreds of times and my time in the US Army, where I fired assault rifles and machine guns thousands of times. In other words, I have an ‘ear’ for these kind of sounds. Again I state that there were TWO different caliber guns, some shooting… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

OK Greg: acknowledged. Your experience and the Mike Adams video make a compelling case that there were two shooters. That puts this event into another (much darker) class altogether: a coordinated pre-meditated quasi-military psyop. You won’t be hearing that from the FBI! What I don’t get is what dafuq were they shooting at??? Two snipers, two elevated vantage points, 10-11 minutes, semi or full auto fire (say a 1,000-1,2000 rounds each?) – the whole of the concert area should have been a kill zone? Where are they??? I find this quite traumatic; I don’t want to be trawling the net… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Exactly.

flaxgirl
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Thanks, BigB. I think I’ve seen more than enough evidence to show that this was a big fat hoax. If someone has any evidence that shows there was any real injury or death, I’d be interested to see it otherwise I don’t feel the need to see any more. I am not of the opinion that you need to see more and more evidence to decide on whether something is a hoax or not. I have issued a $5,000 challenge for anyone to produce a 10-point Occam’s Razor exercise favouring the “official story” hypothesis for any of the three events:… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Actually, I see how Occam’s Razor relates extremely pertinently to the quotes at the start of the article.

Willem
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Willem

“One might end up asking: Who’s the devil?”
Edward Curtin (above)
“The devil’s finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.”
Charles Baudelaire, Paris Spleen
“There is no conspiracy.”
MSM on Las Vegas shooting massacre
PCR’ final statement on this issue:
“Why are there so many uncertainties about an event that should be transparent?”
I don’t know. For distraction maybe?
Distraction from what?

Big B
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Big B

@Willem: from the same source (PCR: link in my comment below) – I prefer this quote:
“This is the American media, a collection of dumbshit whores who sell their souls to official lies. America has no greater enemy than its own media.”

binra
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While the power to shape and frame the narrative is indeed fundamental to all that then follows – there still has to be a willingness to listen, and act as if what is ays is true – and keep listening. Americans – specifically of the United States of America who indicatively presume themselves The Americans – have been sold self-specialness and a false flag religion behind some very fine words and even more fine print in the laws. The American Dream drew on true desires and aspirations and lured them from where they truly belong to associate them with doublespeak… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

Single white Caucasian male perpetrator: deceased. No known previous associations. Case closed. The victims killed and wounded total 573. That number is the size of a military battalion. It is very difficult to turn an entire battalion into casualties with small arms fire even in a fierce combat situation. I don’t know if it has ever happened. Can one person with no military training shooting down from 32 stories, which requires special sighting knowledge, at a distance of 390 yards—the length of 4 football fields—hit 573 people in a few minutes of firing? Paul Craig Roberts [Caveat: not all 573… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

This is the original trauma surgeons letter that my links above were replies to. It contains links to the videos on Youtube: since taken down.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/09/military-surgeon-says-videos-las-vegas-gunshot-victims-fake/
You have to ask: why is Youtube sanitizing this event? Taking down videos of ‘victims’ meeting Trump??? I haven’t waded through them all: but LiveLeak has plenty of videos that question the official narrative. Including this one that shows the male ‘leg wound’ crisis actor standing for Trump; and the ‘gurning girls’ – one of which was hip shot and almost paralyzed. BS BS BS.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=be8_1507899128

flaxgirl
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Here is a video of a REAL gunshot wound being treated.

BigB
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BigB

Hey flaxgirl: 23 guns in the room – and don’t tell me you missed the pyramid and the obelisk. I thought the symbology was your shit!!! 😉

flaxgirl
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Oh, you mean in the hospital room of the real gunshot video. LOL.

BigB
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BigB

Nope, this pyramid:
http://images.oyster.com/articles/2225-2010-12-street-luxor-hotel-casino-v169523-1152.jpg
Yandex (or search engine of your choice) the Luxor hotel and casino. It’s next to the Mandalay Bay and across the road from the concert (the obelisk {and sphinx} are out front.) I’m not sold on the symbology (but I don’t discard it – there seems to be a recurring theme.) I chose a night shot: does that remind you of the 9/11 ‘twin beam’ memorial???

flaxgirl
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I see. I sooo would not have seen twin beams or obelisk myself. So many mentions of the obelisk and other symbols! Here’s a comment by “Dormouse” on an article: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-04/16-unanswered-questions-about-las-vegas-shooting-mainstream-media-doesnt-want-talk-a How about the fact that this slaughter occurred directly across the street from a capped pyramid, a sphinx, and an Osiris obelisk boner? Our masters are sick blood-lusting satanists. It’s shown to our faces everywhere—tv, movies, halftime shows. From http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/10/false-flag-las-vegas-shooting-near-mandalay-bay-casino-kills-50.html Firstly, we have the astrological significance of Saturn being in 22 degrees of Sagittarius that degree is known as the assassins degree. Saturn is significant for the dark occult,… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

I don’t know what else to say: except to ask – what sort of fucking sick world do we live in? I find all this traumatic: I take no pleasure in it at all. I feel dirty by having to determine some sort of sense from this madness: but I’ll do it again… and again… and again… cos the fuckers that revel in the manufacture of this sort of shit are out of control. Out of control and laughing… while the masses sleep on. The fact that there were two shooters: apparently firing live ammo (what at – I don’t… Read more »

flaxgirl
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I know, it’s a sick world and it makes me sick. The Mogadishu bombing was also staged. Real bomb(s), of course, unlike, Manchester, however, when I look at all the images none of them is convincing. There’s no indication of compromise to anyone’s body. Also, they talk about 200 people being pulled from the rubble but early pictures show many people standing around. If there were all these people in the rubble people would not be standing around as they were. Firstly, I do not blame the crisis actors in this event. For a start, who even knows if they… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Apologies. First link is incorrect. Editors, when you approve previous comment (approval required because of the number of links in my post) please amend first link to image showing bandaged back to this and delete this comment:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/deadly-truck-bombing-mogadishu-somalia-slideshow-wp-191831889/photo-p-critically-wounded-men-wait-photo-160031852.html
(For those who may see this comment without the unapproved one above, it’s about the pictorial evidence showing that the truck bombing at Mogadishu is also a staged terror event – the image of the back shows pigmentation anomalies – not the burns suggested.)

flaxgirl
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LOL. Where? I’m not exactly into the symbology – just that I know it’s there because so many others point it out – however, I’m the world’s most unobservant hoax analyst. If it weren’t for others pointing things out, I’d be screwed.

flaxgirl
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Thank you, Big B. I mean, seriously what more needs to be said? Yes, we don’t have verification that this person really was a military surgeon but what he says seems very authoritative, does it not, and the YouTube evidence of laughing, etc, speaks for itself.

Jerry Alatalo
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Edward Curtin is a superb writer, making any extended time spent at his website very worthwhile. He is an intense, fearless seeker of truth.

bevin
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bevin
Jerry Alatalo
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Greg Palast, according to Christopher Bollyn, is 9/11 disinformation, and it seems he is Las Vegas disinformation as well.

flaxgirl
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I steer clear of the “disinfo” label as far as people within the truth movement are concerned. I find that people apply it rather ludicrously to anyone whose opinion they disagree with and I think that’s wrong. I think no planes went into the buildings but I don’t say those who thing planes did go into the buildings are “disinfo agents”. I think they interpret the data differently. People will always think differently and whether they’re right or wrong does not mean they’re “disinfo agents”. Sure, no doubt there are bona fide disinfo agents within the truth movement but you… Read more »

Jerry Alatalo
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Flaxgirl. What do you want, a medal? Bollyn nailed 9/11, he outed Palast during a recent interview by pointing out a deceased uncle was big-time MOSSAD, and we thought it proper to warn people here at Off Guardian. Anyone who publicly supports the U.S. government narrative on 9/11 is a disinformation agent, albeit, and here your point is well taken, some do it unconsciously while others are conscious they are spreading and perpetuating the lie.

Jerry Alatalo
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Flaxgirl, Sorry about the medal reference. Perhaps the direct quote of Bollyn regarding Palast will help you understand the overreaction: “I (Bollyn) don’t usually get into debate with other people, journalists, pundits, scholars, what have you … Unless they attack 9/11 truth. One example is a man named Greg Palast. He turned against Steven Jones. In an interview on TV he said: ‘Come on Jones … come at me. You’re a fraud.’ And I thought gee, this is outrageous, why is he attacking Professor Jones? Professor Jones did great research on finding the nanothermite, and destruction of the Twin Towers.”… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Thanks for your elaboration, Jerry, however, whatever Greg Palast’s uncle was I still don’t think you can accuse him definitively of being a disinfo agent. Do you think everyone who believes 9/11 was LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) rather than MIHOP (make it happen on purpose) is a disinfo agent? If so, an awful lot of people would qualify. But then, on reflection, I have to say myself that anyone who has researched who thinks it was LIHOP I do seriously question. You know, maybe I’ll accept your accusing him of being a disinfo agent after all – I… Read more »

Jerry Alatalo
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Thanks for engaging. Yes, disinfo or gatekeeper are the same terms for one thing, as both constitute lying or deception by either omission or commission. For what it’s worth, a brother-in-law who passed away a few years ago might have summed it up, “If there’s one thing I abhor, it’s a liar.”
Thank you again. Peace.

Paul Barbara
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Hi Bevin, apparently you’re welcome back on CM’s blog. ‘VEGAS CASE CLOSED: Multiple Shooters Confirmed in Intel/Defense Sector Murder Rampage’: ‘VEGAS CASE CLOSED (pt. 2): The Nail In The Coffin!’: George Soros bought ‘put’ options on 1.35 million MGM stocks 60 days before attack, and MGM CEO selling 80% of his personal stock in the company on 7th September (when he knew the company was planning an operation that would raise the stock price). I’m afraid Greg Palast is a bit slow on ‘False Flags’, like this one or 9/11. I tried personally to get him to look at some… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

My thoughts on the Soros put options: it’s his calling card – a way of saying “I knew about this” – because he can. Does Soros need to make a quick profit on $1.35mil of options? Particularly when he’s just transferred $18.9bn to his Open Society Found.? I don’t think so. He’s just taking the piss.

tommytcg
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Apparently there is a gag order on all Vegas cops and military by FBI. Allegedly MU L T I P L E shooters in M U L T I P L E places.

Paul Barbara
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Any links for that info?

binra
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Fig-leaf thinking is not really thinking. It’s a cover story. The core ‘program’ is self-evasion. Its core element is defence of the power to be who you are not – which is the sacrifice of who you are to untruth. In seeking power outside your self – you cast yourself lacking. “But who told you you were lacking?” is the Voice of One. The deconstruction of the mind can be assigned an evil intent – and used to generate mythological narrative identity – as the persistence of focus in the evil intent. It can also be seen as the ripeness… Read more »

flaxgirl
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They distract you with the focus on the number of shooters. It don’t matter how many shooters there were – it was a hoax. * It was predicted from a sign at the Freeman High School shooting hoax on Sep 16 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nph4oueARA – the power elite love playing with their clues. * And this video on a series of 4Chan posts starting a second before Sep 11 about a possible event in Las Vegas are very illuminating – how Michael Chertoff et al can profit from all the extra securitisation that will be installed as a result of this… Read more »

Paul Barbara
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You can have ‘Crisis Actors’ at a ‘False Flag’ event, as well as real casualties.
I certainly believe there were a LOT of casualties at the Vegas atrocity, but also ‘Crisis Actors’ to muddy the waters, and set of streams of disinfo on the web.
And have no fear, I am a fully-paid-up ‘Conspiracy Theorist’, and proud of it.
The world runs on conspiracies.

flaxgirl
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In theory, yes, but I believe for the last few years they all follow the same MO. For me to believe there was a casualty I need to see evidence. Got any? The only hybrid (though in reverse direction) I’m aware of is 9/11 (and I’m not entirely sure about it). I believe it’s very possible that not everyone said to have died really did. But a significant number definitely did die and some of them specifically were wanted dead. See Jeremy Rys’s eye-opening film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_fp5kaVYhk

flaxgirl
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Forgot link to crisis actors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VEL4vsT6VA

Schlüter
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See also:
“US Madness: MKUltra in Full Swing?”: https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2017/10/05/us-madness-mkultra-in-full-swing/
Regards

Paul Barbara
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And Gladio B abroad!