AUDIO: Edward Curtin: False Flag Operations Will Start New War

Professor of Sociology Edward Curtin discusses the attempts by the US, Britain, NATO and Israel to create false pretexts for an invasion of Syria and war with Russia. He discusses how the Deep State has concocted RussiaGate and how media and propaganda make it difficult to tell fact from fiction.

Show Notes

Triggering War. A Manufactured “Catalytic Event” Which Will Initiate An All Out War? Are We Going to Let this Happen Again?

Further Signs of More War: A Most Dangerous Game
Denying the Obvious: Leftists and CrimestopPodcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Edward Curtin teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. His writing on varied topics has appeared widely over many years. He writes as a public intellectual for the general public, not as a specialist for a narrow readership. He believes a non-committal sociology is an impossibility and therefore sees all his work as an effort to enhance human freedom through understanding. His website is edwardcurtin.com

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Edward Curtin teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. His writing on varied topics has appeared widely over many years. He writes as a public intellectual for the general public, not as a specialist for a narrow readership. He believes a non-committal sociology is an impossibility and therefore sees all his work as an effort to enhance human freedom through understanding. His website is edwardcurtin.com

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kouldb
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kouldb

If the British, American, European & Australian public allow their governments to drag them into a war with Russia, in order to divert attention away from their woeful management of our economies, the dangers of Islam & their corruption, then we deserve what we get.

Terry Washington
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Terry Washington

Were I a Muslim rather than a Catholic would you feel so free to slag of my religious beliefs- I think not( esp given the propensity of sections of the Left- such as the Socialist Workers Party- to suck up to Islamists)!

vierotchka
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✝️ ☪️ 🕉 ☸️ ✡️ 🔯 🕎 ☦️, it makes no difference.

vierotchka
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A MUST read. I found this article (published in 2004 before the Guardian turned rogue) after watching the video below.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/may/06/science.research
The video:
Published on 27 Mar 2018
Maria Zakharova, the Russian Foreign Affairs rep on the situation when 130 Russian diplomats must leave 18 NATO and EU countries.

MichaelK
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MichaelK

The article does illustrate just how far the Guardian has lurched to the right politically. They’ve become so patriotic and determined to show how much they love their country. It’s also a real tragedy that Luke Harding’s stamp in on everything they write about Russia these days. It’s sad and really dangerous, because he is a raving anti- Russian zealot on the warpath.

Francis Lee
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Francis Lee

The ascendancy of neo-conservative ideology in the west marks the most virulent, aggregate human pathology yet known; and that includes Attila the Hun and Adolf Hitler. Has there ever been such a global death cult as these guys? Ironically they mostly resemble their jihadi allies – fanatics, only suicide bombers with nukes. They are quite literally insane and apparently labour under the delusion that they are somehow immortal, impervious to 750 kiloton Russian nukes. The only other immortals I can think of were the elite Persian units which were thrown into battle by Xerxes against the 300 Spartans at the… Read more »

MICHAEL LEIGH
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MICHAEL LEIGH

In fact, FRANCISLEE I think the area bombing by the early Royal Air force in what was the 1930’s Irak – of ‘Un-armed Arabs’ and their settlements by the British armed forces, long preceeds the latter, Mass Genocidal bombing of the German population, by Sir W Churchill favourite Air Commander !

JudyJ
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I wonder if anyone uttered those immortal words “Lessons will be learned” in the days that Orwell is referring to. Presumably if they did, they were ignored as they are today. Perhaps May and Johnson will coin the phrase “Lessons will be learned robustly” in the not too distant future. We can hope so, but I’m neither holding my breath nor prepared to give it any credence.

vexarb
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911: Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

milosevic
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milosevic

Fair dinkum
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Fair dinkum

The US economy is approaching breaking point. Most other western economies go down with the Mothership.
War is good for the American and British economies, it also galvanises the government’s standing in the eyes of the sheeple.
One question though: How will Europe keep warm without Russian gas?

Terry Washington
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Terry Washington

I would rather “parrot what the jew Guardian and the jew Economist” said(FYI neither publication is owned or edited by Jews) than what comes out of Russia Today and TASS(not to mention the “troll factory” of Putin’s hometown of St Petersburg)!

vexarb
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@Terry. I dont who owns the Economist but the Fraudian Trust had a permanent representative from Rothschild in my day, and is now funded by Rothschild’s right hand man in the USA — Gyorgi Soros — as revealed here inOffG. That explains why the Fraudian has consistently cheered every Resource War since the 2003 rape of Iraq.

candideschmyles
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Perhaps you are Jewish and sensitive in some degree to the increasing antipathy toward Israel and Zionist hegemony throughout western government, media, banking and business? As someone who has not a cell in his body, not a flickering thought of anything resembling anti Semitic yet who is vehemently outspoken on the Zionist power base responsible for the deaths of millions, including ordinary Jews I would implore you to not continue with such an absurd and tired effort of tarring. If you care about Jews and Jewishness then your fight is not with anti Zionists and their efforts to put a… Read more »

Tommy Hallem
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Tommy Hallem

I like that , very well put !

MichaelK
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MichaelK

A view from inside the neocon padded cell as the ground shivers to the sound of the war drums coming closer…
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-new-cold-war-with-russia-no-it%e2%80%99s-worse-than-that/ar-BBKJyIE?ocid=spartandhp

frank
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frank

Terrifying article you’ve linked to. I can’t get very far reading such material before my blood starts to boil and a sense of hopeless overwhelms me.
It’s demonic, Satanic. Other words no longer seem to fit.

Doug Colwell
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Doug Colwell

In response to Terry Washington I have something to say.
Some of us are conservative in our view of legal proceedings. There used to be something called presumption of innocence, do you remember that? Also, evidence was once required to prosecute a case. Well, I suppose us older folks need to get up to speed and dump such archaic notions. Foreword! Who needs laws when we can have….colour of law.

JudyJ
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In the eyes of a significant proportion of the (British) population, and the whole of the government and its media mouthpieces, you don’t need evidence to declare someone guilty. Just a small dose of xenophobia is sufficient. That’s a democratic, diverse and all-embracing society for you.

milosevic
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milosevic

An equally small, or perhaps even smaller, dose of identity-politics feminism is also sufficient, if the person requiring a frameup happens to be a non-elite male.

robjira
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robjira

I appreciate the mention of Michael Hastings; his death was way too convenient to be an accident. Word has it he was working on a book about the NSA at the time.

Mikalina
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Mikalina

I think he had done ‘enough’ with his work on McCrystal….

Ryan
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Ryan

Scary stuff. Anyone who REALLY wants to know whats going on should definitely check this out, its a pretty scary warning from a history and religion professor. Pretty damn eye opening: https://ancientprophecy.weebly.com/

milosevic
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milosevic

Thanks; that doesn’t resemble zionist disinfo AT ALL.
http://aliveafterthefall.com/nht_v52/front-sl.php
You might have better success with the sort of drooling idiots who get their opinions from Faux News.

Mikalina
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Mikalina

Thanks for watching that for us. I seriously couldn’t be arsed……

BigB
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This is beginning to resemble an international intelligence coup: not just against Trump, but against humanity. Now 22 countries have overcome their initial reticence, to cooperate in the biggest mass expulsion of Russian diplomats in history. In America, the reign of the military junta of the Generals seemlessly segues into the installation of the War Cabinet: with the ascension of Bolton, Pompeo, and “Torture Girl” Gina Haspel …with the fielding of the CIA Democrats yet to come in the mid-terms. Functioning under the pretence of an ideo-cultural and economic war against the Russian Federation: this is in fact the continuation… Read more »

MichaelK
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MichaelK

https://thesaker.is/what-happened-to-the-west-i-was-born-in/
The Saker isn’t particularly optimistic about the path we’re now on, which seems to lead in one direction only, towards war with Russia and probably the final war. The war that not only ends all wars, but probably civilization as well… along with most life on the planet, and for what exactly, what could possibly be worth fighting for leading to such a terrible outcome? Maybe we’re just the kind of species that ‘needs’ wars?

candideschmyles
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Today’s announcement of the expulsion of some 100 Russian diplomatic staff under the pretext of solidarity with the UK over the Skripal affair is not just unprecedented in diplomacy but is raising tensions to a level not seen since the Cuban missile crisis. Given the theatre caught on camera in Salisbury, this event failed to be responded to according to standard practice in response to such an event for starters, there is no conclusion to be reached except this is a false flag event designed specifically to hide in the media storm Western complicity and culpability in the chemical weapons… Read more »

JudyJ
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Just a minor aside, my brother (we are both middle aged, to put this in context) is not a ‘historian’ by profession but has been a sponge for world (real, as opposed to fabricated) history (back to the year dot), economics and politics for as long as I can remember. Within, I would say, 4 days of the Salisbury incident he said to me that the M.O. and the question of possible motive had all the hallmarks of Mossad.

candideschmyles
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Then your brother and I have the same grasp of history. I am 53 and though always a searcher and truthseeker repelled by ideology in all guises it took me decades and the vast library of the internet to begin to understand the deeper realities behind world events. Undeŕstanding the totality is a venture into a complex organisation that has fabricated so many fictions you begin to appear certifiable in documenting them. Especially as they have created the ability to conjure the demon of anti Semitic and holocaust denial on anyone who dares finger them. Which is patently absurd considering… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

you might appreciate this:
9/11 In Context: Plans and Counterplans
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/kolskegg03.htm

Kathy
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Kathy

The U.K is a disgusting bloated psychopathic power crazed nation.They and the U.S salivate over the earth and her treasures. History shows how the talons of empire have marked the world and left it and its peoples raped and destitute. The U.K appeared to pass the baton to the U.S { though with this latest wave of false flagged warmongering it seems to have returned to the U.K}. All this is going on as they take some deranged lamentably schizophrenic moral high ground. From the ivory tower they look out upon a land soaked in the blood and tears of… Read more »

MICHAEL LEIGH
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MICHAEL LEIGH

I think you KATHY will shortly discover the whole truth of who the real plotters to falsely, accuse the Russia Federation of responsibility for the ‘ Salisbury Nerve Agent Murder Attempts ‘ will be no other than the ” Drama Queens of the CIA “. Indeed , at even the basic plot level the ludicrious planning is a typical hallmark – of the CIA special operations teams downstairs at Langley in room C4 – the good old boys and Gals who even failed to take out the late Cuban President, Snr Fidel Castro on the 105th attempt, with poisoned cigars… Read more »

Kathy
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Kathy

I think they are all part of the same power crazed psychotic team. I think their fingers spread throughout the world. I believe the C.I.A and the British {dis}intelligence work together.I am not sure that the U.K ever quite gave up their sovereignty of the U.S. The U.K hides behind America but America is the child the U.K nurtured. It is debatable as to where this all stems from as they all work together for their own ends i am not sure it makes much difference who carried the match or who lit it. They are all culpable.The puppet states… Read more »

Kathy
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Kathy

I would also like to ask you please. Why the you, and why the capitals for my name. It seems a bit personal! and a little threatening. Just sayin.

Kathy
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Kathy

Apologies for this last comment. Probably got a bit paranoid. Walls have ears and all that.

billyjunker
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billyjunker

In order to discount the idea that neither Russiagate (in the US) nor the Skripal affair (in the UK) could have been false flags, one has to pretend that Operations Gladio and Northwoods never actually happened. The less transparent the US and UK are about the supposed “evidence” implicating Russia in these events, the more likely it becomes that both events were designed in advance to manipulate and organize the masses against a new external threat to the state, thereby protecting its economic power structures against internal democratic critique. The Sanders’s candidacy in the US and the Brexit vote in… Read more »

Tommy Hallem
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Tommy Hallem

Sanders was just another Israeli puppet, another who supported the Iraq war, as with Corbyn ( who I support ) I doubt there will be any real change, it simply will not be allowed.

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

In general, you’re right about Bernie. But in fairness, he did actually oppose the Iraq War: https://www.sanders.senate.gov/video/flashback-rep-bernie-sanders-opposes-iraq-war

Mikalina
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Mikalina

Sanders and Brexit are ‘lightning conductors’ – just more circuses for the people…..

vierotchka
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Published on 26 Mar 2018
The A-234 nerve agent — this particular substance is used in the Novichok system. For the last few weeks, London has been claiming that it was Russia that produced this substance. However, as you can see, anyone can purchase the detailed instructions for 28 dollars.

bevin
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bevin

Propaganda designed to prepare public opinion for war-including False Flag operations lose their importance when the major opposition to warmongers comes not from domestic opponents but from the designated target’s defences. And that is now the case: it really doesn’t matter if 60% of TV viewers in the UK believe that the Skrivals were poisoned by Russian arch villains in the employ of President Putin, so long as the Kremlin is defended not by sympathisers in British living rooms but by armed force. The era of False Flags was short lived. It lasted until Russia informed the US that, were… Read more »

Mikalina
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Mikalina

It’s ‘Last Chance Saloon’, Bevin. The cabal of cannibals are about to loose control of the world monetary system. They have to do something to persuade/induce us to accept another form of monetary control (on line energy certificates, anyone?). The last time their back was so far up the wall, they killed hundreds of thousands – even millions (9/11). This time they need a big war. They need to instigate something which doesn’t have us ‘pondering’ or ‘discussing’ – something so outrageous that we will ‘allow’ action. I assume they will then rely on Russia to respond minimally – as… Read more »

candideschmyles
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The Skripal false flag is in my opinion absolutely certain to be the work of Zionist Empire and it’s loyal lieutenants. This is the “price” Russia is being made to pay for Assads victory in East Ghouta.

Terry Washington
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Terry Washington

Does this mean that the poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Julia were all part of “a false flag operation”???

vierotchka
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Top French Intel Boss Reveals Operation Beluga: US-UK Plot to Discredit Putin and Destabilize Russia
Published on 3 Aug 2017
Renowned French security expert Paul Barril discloses the existence of Operation Beluga, a covert Western intelligence scheme intended to undermine Russia and its leaders.

FS
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FS

You really stink this place up, Mr Washington. Can’t you just piss off to CNN, or something?

Terry Washington
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Terry Washington

I would rather stink up this place of “Putin ass kissers” with common sense than listen to the BS peddled here. As for the mass expulsion of Russian “diplomats”(in reality SVR/GRU officers) “raising tensions”- did the expulsions of Soviet intelligence officers from the UK back in 1971-my guess is that the Kremlin will engage in some face saving reciprocal expulsions but do NOTHING of any consequence save vent some piss and wind( remember Putin knows fully well that he needs the West more than we need him- Russia’s GNP is little bigger than Italy’s!)!

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

Alas! Italy doesn’t have oil. Otherwise, the Germans would be building their pipeline from there.

Tommy Hallem
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Tommy Hallem

Yes like the E,U needs us more than we need them, we were constantly being told,that turned out true didn’t it.

vierotchka
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Russia has amply demonstrated that it doesn’t need the West, whereas European countries have suffered a great deal from the sanctions it imposed on Russia. Therefore, it is the West that needs Russia and not the other way round.

mark
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mark

Yes, that’s right, just keep on parroting what the Jew Guardian and the Jew Economist tell you. Haven’t they always got it right before? What could possibly go wrong? Oh, what a lovely war!

Terry Washington
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Terry Washington

FYI I am a practising Roman Catholic!

milosevic
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milosevic

I am a practising Roman Catholic!

… in other words, a person skilled in believing in delusional fantasies unsupported by real world evidence, who assumes that the more counter-factual their opinions actually are, the more moral credit accrues to them.
This explains much.

vierotchka
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Ah, that explains your virulent anti-Semitism!

Terry Washington
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Terry Washington

I’M the anti_Semite??? It wasn;t me whao started banging on about “the Jew Guardian” and the Jew Economist”(FYI NEITHER publication is owned or even edited by Jews)!

vierotchka
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Sorry, my mistake. Nevertheless, your trolling here is tiresome.

Admin
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To your last point – that’s only because we measure our economy through scale of debt, and Russia has virtually no debt. It has a far bigger manufacturing base than either the UK or US. But I have a couple of questions for you, which I hope you answer. 1)However evil you believe Russia to be – are you willing to go to war with them rather than sustain minimum diplomacy as we were always careful to do in the old Cold War days? 2)If the answer to 1 is “no”; are you afraid the level of bellicosity – however… Read more »

Binra (@onemindinmany)
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False flagged simply means what it says. Assigned to another power falsely. It can also been a deliberately contrived event for the purpose of being so flagged. In a post truth politic, narrative control is believed to deliver results without any need for facts to get involved. The exact circumstances relating to Sergei Skripal and his daughter Julia are by no means clear. The narrative assertions about it are not backed with substance. But they are backed by the power that gets politicians and Media to fall in line and dance to the tune they are told to sing. Putin’s… Read more »

Admin
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Given the almost complete lack of data that remains one possibility of many.

Terry Washington
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Terry Washington

The late George Orwell once quipped that there are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could take them seriously- no working man or woman in their right senses would- when a Russian defector and his daughter are struck down with a nerve agent associated with Russia, then it seems only fair to suspect the Kremlin! Wake up and smell the borscht- the Cold War is long over!

Thomas Peterson
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Thomas Peterson

Invisible Russian ninjas applying novichok to Mr Skripal’s door seems kind of implausible to me.

Tim Groves
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Tim Groves

But Skripal wasn’t actually “a defector” was he? Or if you think he was, perhaps you would oblige us with the date, place and details of his defection. He was a spy who became double agent, working against his own country while pretending to serve it—a lot like Bill Heydon in John le Carré’s Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, and he is alleged to have blown the cover of 300 of his fellow Russian agents. That would make him in many people’s eyes a traitor, a turncoat, a Judas, a rat, and above all, someone who would have a lot of… Read more »

mark
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mark

“A nerve agent associated with Russia.”
Like Sarin is a “nerve agent associated with Germany.”
And VX is a “nerve agent associated with Britain.”

vexarb
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And Terry is someone associated with Washington. So Terry’s posts are Tweeted by Trump in person. Highly Likely because their names are ‘ls, Closely Related — both have a T and an R — same as all the Nerve Agents in this case are Closely Related because they all have an N and a P in their chemistry.
Just kidding.

Admin
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Leaving the late George Orwell to his own devices for the moment, the difference between you and the majority of people here is simply this – you think we should implicitly believe the vague and unsourced statements of politicians just as we did in 2003. The rest of us think waiting for hard evidence is a better idea.