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WATCH: This is extremely dangerous to our democracy…

A few days ago, every local news station in America owned by the Sinclair Broadcast Group – a massive media conglomerate – read short a statement about the spread of “fake news”. The same statement, word-for-word. CBS, ABC, NBC and Fox, it didn’t matter. They were united in their chant.

As you watch the montage – put together by user “D” on youtube – you have to ask yourself: What is the mechanism behind this? Who wrote the statement, and what structure allows their words to be spoken by hundreds of mouths to millions of viewers?
Most importantly – how revealing is this of our media? How often has this united-front of opinion been present, but less obvious?

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brainfart

Now is the time a Corbyn supporter, with the ability, should create an equivalent video of brainwashing regarding ”antisem*tism” perpetuated by the British ”free press”and the Friends of Isral brigade.
It is relentless.
BBC, Sky, Channel 4, Itv, Channel 5, screenshots of the Fraudian, Daily Heil, Telegiraffe, Times and any other Murdoch/Dacre/Barclay Bro toilet papers. Political ”pundits”. Tweets from Mann, Philips et al the turncoats betraying the Labour voter. CFoI
Finish the vid with Corbyns actual pass-over statement and clear position as a human rights campaigner that is against any form of discrimination. Strike while the irons hot.
And keep an eye on the head of Momentum since he took full control. He seems to be at the forefront of some of this nonsense. Unite can be trusted, Momentum under his control is getting suspiciously dictatorial and undermining.

timfrom
timfrom

Methinks Sinclair doth protest too much…

John Watwood
John Watwood

lmao! ‘Nuff said. Useful idiots all in the montage. Blind fools narrating the kakistocracy’s orthodoxy.

rogerglewis

psyop collage : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
https://archive.org/details/Morethantaboo2013HolocaustWhatstrueandWhatsfalseHD via
“Because of the myth of the “good war” millions have been pointlessly murdered by needless interventionism. Without the Holocaust narrative, WWII is nothing but another colonial resource war.

John Watwood
John Watwood

I agree. Just more primitives of imperialism.

rogerglewis

Reblogged this on MUSO MUSINGS ON FATHERHOOD THEORY AND STUFF and commented:
psyop collage : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
https://archive.org/details/Morethantaboo2013HolocaustWhatstrueandWhatsfalseHD via
“Because of the myth of the “good war” millions have been pointlessly murdered by needless interventionism. Without the Holocaust narrative, WWII is nothing but another colonial resource war.

rogerglewis

rogerglewis

http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/59735/
General Comment
I think this song is actually about interrogations rudolf hess went through when he landed on enemy grounds. Tests and facts are mantioned, and a lack of real communication between hess and english intelligence. I think that Ian(through Hess) is complaining how they kept Hess in jail beyond reason, but as a part of their anti nazi politics. As some kind of a souvenir really to remind them that they did right. “Just to live in the past tense to make believe you were right” I think that Ian is showing his sympathies towards Hess and Nazism in this song, and i think that’s pretty childish. I must say i’m pretty disappointed by that, i see it as a sign of weekness.
Maksimovicon August 15, 2010 Link
The Media lies, really? Who Knew?
“Because of the myth of the “good war” millions have been pointlessly murdered by needless interventionism. Without the Holocaust narrative, WWII is nothing but another colonial resource war.”
I am a big reader of Caitlan Johnson on Medium she is a great writer and has a finger on the pulse of what is appearing in Narratives and Counternarratives Caitlan reads the intended grey space interpretation very well I find.
I once posed this question to Caitlan.
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/how-you-can-be-absolutely-certain-that-mainstream-media-lies-about-everything-a5eec69a9264
One thing that puzzles me is why when draws the conclusion that the MSM is a lie machine, Which I agree with. Then why is it the Anthropogenic Global Warming due to the CO2 Hypothesis is somehow a Truth that the MSM is Consistently Telling? I can not reconcile that contradiction, I am curious how you do yourself?
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2017/06/was-inconvienient-truth-always.html
What are the main narratives where is the common Thread and what are the realities that Harold MacMillan called Events dear boy, events .
If you think about it Climate Change is part of the Holy Trinity of Globalisation, The others are The The Chosenness of the Elites and the Third the Holocaust as Totem of a Manichean personification of Evil.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2018/03/has-holocaust-replaced-calvary-at.html
The Medium is The Message, apparently.

Sav
Sav

John Oliver repeats this video and suddenly everyone is cheering on how this is new news & John gave them a heads up. Forget the Sinclair group, all the MSM were running this campaign against ‘fake news’. The words may have been different but it was done in unison just like foreign policy is sold. You’ll hear the same terms being used. Or the other tactic is for one outlet to make a report and everyone else simply regurgitates it as an article.

John Watwood
John Watwood

Regurgitates is an ample and concise term.

Mikalina
Mikalina

…the words may have been different…..
Sounded to me like they were all the same and atempts to say otherwise is to ‘fudge’.

Sav
Sav

I wasn’t talking about this video, Mikalina. I meant the whole campaign in MSM against ‘fake news’.

Eric Blair

I went looking for “our” democracy but I couldn’t find it anywhere. The media is the Empire’s propaganda department, elections are a pieces of Kabuki theatre designed to bamboozle the proles and power-obsessed thieves, liars, torturers and killers run the show.
This is hardly a new development. The exaggerated outrage and affected surprise every time the establishment’s crooked and devious ways are exposed is getting boring. Surveillance, manipulation and deception (and lying about it at every turn) is part and parcel of full-spectrum dominance. Surely we all know this by now so what’s with the “OMG they are threatening our democracy [sic]” routine?
Is it not time to admit that “our” democracy is as good as dead and won’t be resurrected until we get angry or desperate enough to take the fight to those who are killing it?
The internet has a way of making interaction with a digital device feel like something more…but until we are compelled to take action in the physical world we are just 21st century armchair revolutionaries… all talk and no action. No revolution happens without risk, sacrifice and, usually, violence and repression. In this brave new internet era we can’t even muster enough energy and motivation to take to the streets and demand the UK government release Julian Assange.
Anyone who believes the fight against global capitalism can be fought and won passively while sitting in a coffee shop and tinkering on a Five Eyes infiltrated communication device is sadly deluded.
Until we in the West rally around a vision that can replace the current political and economic order there won’t even be a revolution. In the absence of a viable alternative to replace it, the present dysfunctional system will live on, becoming increasingly repressive as sporadic chaos and violence erupt from a restive population under immense social and economic pressure.
Decline can be a lengthy and bitter process and only we the people can put a halt to it. No wise and glorious leader or sympathetic foreign power will fight our battles for us.

John Watwood
John Watwood

Could not have iterated that better myself. Do not wish to try even. I concur Eric Blair. Agenda 21 will continue, and in my opinion, succeed. The ‘resistance’ will be people living in tiny, isolated, autonomous communities that the kakistocracy doesn’t give a rat’s tail about. Hell, as in 1984, when they bomb their own ‘sustainable’ cities(slave quarters?) they’ll have someone to blame. Mayhaps.

rogerglewis

Malcolm Pryce

There are now quite a few of these compilation videos out there on YouTube, here’s one:

Whoever has compiled them has made an error in adding a laughter track to them which confuses and detracts from the message. Watch a few and you will be astonished.

John Watwood
John Watwood

I good a good laugh every time I watch one. Must have humor to brighten our darkened days.

Mikalina
Mikalina

The ‘laughter’ track is the most scary thing about this. People are supposed to find this funny?

fremo.remo.
fremo.remo.

this is extremely dangerous to our democracy….

Richard Wicks
Richard Wicks

Um, this has been going on for decades…
Conan O’Brien does a bit around this, by recording part of the segment, then switching to another affiliate, then another, then another.
The US hasn’t had a media since AT LEAST 2000 but if you mentioned “Hey, Hussein wouldn’t work with binLaden, he spent the last 20 years murdering any religious leader that was also political, and fought a war against the Iranian theocracy” – well, you were just simply insane and needed to take your meds.
Glass that, 20 years later, finally people are realizing, well the obvious.

vexarb

Richard. Yes, the Guardian smearing Sadam with accusations of religious fanaticism was the first thing that made me suspicious of the MSM. Sadam was one of a generation: a secular socialist Leaders like Assad, Nasser and Kassem; similar to the European secular socialists of their generation: Harold Wilson, Willy Brandt, Mendes France, Golda Meir. I wrote BTL that religious fanatics like Bin Laden were Sadam’s mortal enemies, so he could not possibly be in league with the Saudi terrorists of 911. Afterwards one began to realize that Bin Laden and other oily Saudi religious fanatics were friends of oily Anglo religious fanatics like Bush.

vexarb

@Richard: ” 20 years later, finally people are realizing, well the obvious.”
Reminds me of a story about Oxford mathematician GH Hardy. During a lecture he wrote some steps of a proof on the board and said, “From this it obviously follows …”.
A student: “But, Professor, it is not obvious”.
Hardy paused and thought a minute. Then without a word he left the class and was seen pacing up and down the quad, deep in thought. Came back 20 minutes later, said: “It is obvious”; and resumed his writing.
Or the maths student who said, “After looking at the proof day after day for weeks I realized it was obvious”.
That’s “Man, the glory, jest and riddle of the world” : obvious to Jack but not obvious to John — and vice versa.

tonyopmoc

vexarb,
What “Saudi terrorists of 911” ?
“It is not obvious”
Tony

vexarb

@tonyopmoc. The oily Saudi terrorists (such as the Bin Laden family) who worked on 911 in collusion with oily US terrorists (such as the Bush family). The former were visiting the latter’s ranch on 910; and their private jet was the only plane allowed to fly out of the USA on 912. I guess the person who gave this permission was the same person who ordered US Air Defenses to be shut down on 911 — oily US VP Dick Cheney. The collusion between oily US terrorists in high places and oily Saudi terrorists in high places went on to build ISIL in Iraq and ISIS in Syria.
Obvious — to me; but not, alas, to others — including some of my nearest and dearest — such is Life.

vierotchka

The bin Ladens are not Saudis, they are Yemenis, and they were never involved in the oil industry – they were and still are involved in the construction and renovation of buildings.

vexarb

@Vierotchka. From WikiPedia: “Osama bin Mohammed bin Laden was born in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, a son of Yemeni Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden, a billionaire construction magnate with close ties to the Saudi royal family. ”
Thanks. Alright, not oily and not Saudi; just Yemeni billionaires with close ties to the Saudi royal family and the Bush POTUSA dynasty.

John Watwood
John Watwood

Indoctrination at it’s greatest. And all those whom follow the orthodoxy. The kakistocracy has it down to nigh perfection. That is why we here commenting on this platform, and those like it, are a minority. Humans are engineered to be ‘social’. And, in my opinion, to be slaves. It is only a minority whom seek to be truly autonomous, but the system will not, or rarely, allow this. Even the ‘elites’ are a slave to the sovereignty and hierarchy of the kakistocray’s systems. What I have discerned anyways, and believe by observation and history.

David C. Lee (@worldblee)

Aah, the corporate hive mind at work. Of course, what they don’t mention is the kind of “democracy” they view as “ours”. You know, the kind that cheats in elections to make sure Hillary wins the nomination, the kind that blames everyone but their candidate for losing the national election, the one that supports Saudi Arabia and Israel with more weapons no matter who they kill, the one that occupies countries around the world via around 1,000 foreign bases, and of course the one that supports free money for billionaires 365 days a year while giving working people the finger.

Jerry Alatalo

It would be instructive if the names of the major stockholders/owners of Sinclair Broadcasting (a conglomerate of now over 200 media outlets in the U.S.) became known and/or revealed, so that people can understand the worldviews of those who pushed this media message forward. What stood out in this far-reaching message was the odd phrase, attributed to the supposed motives behind the “evil” alternative news sources, “…to control exactly what people think.”
Those around America who watched and listened were given a black-and-white message absent any nuance or detail – reminiscent of George W. Bush when he told the country and world before the mass-murdering in Iraq, etc. “you are with us or with the terrorists” – in an attempt to persuade/convince viewers only Sinclair Broadcasting can provide the truth. While very appreciative of the individuals who put this expose together, one might assess that the message likely succeeded, sadly, and that a large percentage of viewers began getting their “news” solely from the Sinclair “messengers”.
Ironically, Sinclair’s owners likely accomplished what they accused alternative media sources of doing, which the owners described as “extremely dangerous to our democracy”: Sinclair’s owners through their orders empowered their media assets/employees “…to control exactly what people think.”

John Watwood
John Watwood

I concur with you. When at a gym via a hospital, one of the tv screens ALWAYS has MSM on it. Many pubs/bars, lobbies, offices, clinics, etc, have the same. MSM, and ONLY, MSM. It is infectious. And those who are privately owned and publicly accessible,(bars/pubs, etc) still ‘choose’ MSM, or sports, unless asked to change the channel or people start playing music or something. The orthodoxy of the kakistocracy is absolute. Unless, of course a world wide(mostly western, but not just so) awakening and enlightenment happens, and with that revulsion and ire, Agenda 21 succeeds and we are lost. Pessimistic yes, but I have not observed anything that will change it. Too few of us. The useful idiots of the MSM will be the first in line to get their ‘vaccines’ when a ‘pandemic’ arrives.

vexarb

Six groups own most of the main news media, but only one — Rothshild — owns the main source of news for those media to distribute:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/whow-owns-reuters-rachel-lakhi
I remember vaguely from the US election that something similar exists for TV companies: they all get their news from one main source. And sometimes that source gives them the news before it has happened eg, the Lady on the BBC reporting the fall of building 7 while it was still standing behind her (and it continued to stand for another 20 minutes!). Something like that — a result reported on TV before the event — happened during Trump vs Clinton but I forget what. Rare but significant blips from a narrow but powerful source that give a new meaning to the phrase, Making the News.
(Re-read what I wrote: seems I might have a touch of paranoia. Or there really is a very tight conspiracy between the shaping of events and the reporting of events).

Mikalina
Mikalina

Just cus you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean someone isn’t watching/controlling you………

tonyopmoc

vexarb,
There is vitually no evidence, that I or others can find that Rothschild ever owned Reuters. This is the best I could come up with in 5 minutes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/11qlk9/is_there_any_proof_that_the_rothschilds_own/

Yossarian
Yossarian

Only thing I can find linking them is that Reuter seems to have at the very least offered exclusivity to Rothschild’s London bank when he set up his service:
” Many years later, the story was recounted of Julius locking his Aachen subscribers in his office when market-moving price information was expected. All then received the information simultaneously. No doubt there is some truth in this. However, we have on record that, , in April 1850 – the very time of the signing of the pigeon contract – he offered Rothschilds banking firm in London a deal by which, if Rothschilds would pay to receive Berlin and Vienna prices from him, he ‘would make no further involvement in London’. Where necessary, he was quite prepared to bind himself to exclusiveness. He and his wife were still living precariously. They needed money; they needed to eat. Geller, Steffen, the railway company and La Cygne all had to be paid.. The very high monopolistic charges of the Prussian State Telegraph needed to be recouped.”
From a Reuter’s website:
https://blogs.thomsonreuters.com/answerson/reuters-startup-brussels-aix/
Obviously fortunes could be made by having exclusive access to the fastest messaging service; however, it’s light years away from being evidence the Rothschilds own – or ever owned – Reuters.

John Watwood
John Watwood

No paranoia vexarb, just realization. It is the orthodoxy of the kakistocracy at play, and you see it, feel it. Critical thinking, discernment, and observation.

timfrom
timfrom

Yes, we get it already. Kakistocracy IS a good word, isn’t it?, As some of us were already aware. Don’t wear it out!

Vaska

“There’s no truth to it.
http://www.ap.org/company/about-us
AP is neither privately owned nor government-funded; instead, as a not-for-profit news cooperative owned by its American newspaper and broadcast members, it can maintain its single-minded focus on newsgathering and its commitment to the highest standards of objective, accurate journalism.
In 2008, Reuters was bought by the Thomson Corporation, which created Thomson Reuters. It is controlled by the Thomson family of Canada, a long-time Canadian family that’s not related to Rothschilds.
On Wikipedia:

Thomson Reuters
The Woodbridge Company
Thomson Corporation
Reuters Group
David Thomson, 3rd Baron Thomson of Fleet

A few days ago, I was asked for non-Wikipedia sources, so:
Here’s a Reuters story on the merger in 2008:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/18/industry-thomsonreuters-dc-idUSN1438977620080418
For ownership information on Thomson Reuters, go to this Canadian government web site:
System for Electronic Disclosure by Insiders
Click “Access public filings” then “View summary reports”
Choose “Insider information by issuer”, then click “Next”
Choose “Issuer number”, and type “00001065”, then click “Search”
You should see this:
View 00001065 Thomson Reuters Corporation
Click on “View”
From 1984 to 2007, Reuters was an independent corporation and nobody was allowed to control more than 15% of its stock, either directly or indirectly. In 2007, after the financial meltdown and with the precarious financial situation of so many news organizations, that rule was deemed infeasible.
Before 1984, it was privately owned, and I’m not aware of any information on the owners.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/11qlk9/is_there_any_proof_that_the_rothschilds_own/

Vaska

See this, too: “Who owns Thomson Reuters Corp? ”
https://stockzoa.com/cusip/884903105/

Big B
Big B

Frightening: but you have to wonder – just how much TV does ‘D’ watch!
Talking of fake news that is extremely dangerous to our rapidly eclipsing democracy: Christopher Steele is still at it. Or rather fake news purveyors BuzzFeed are at it on his behalf. This time pushing the death of RT’s founder Mikhail Lesin as murder. This was one of Steele’s other dossiers that form part of the “From Russia with Blood” series which constitute a “serious journalistic investigation” into the “killing fields” of London. OK, I slightly misquoted Dianne Abbot there; but it pisses me off that Labour have been pushing this crap from day one, when the Skripal poisoning was first announced, and Yvette Cooper asked (and subsequently got) Rudd to re-open investigations into the “14” other suspicious deaths in or around London. [I might add that Corbyn has tried to make that 15 by repeatedly asking about the “safety of Russians” after the murder of Nikolai Glushkov].
[Just to be clear: Lesin died in Washington so is not one of the ’14’ – but it is all part of the same narrative construction and features in the dossier.]
Steele is not only a source for this BuzzFeed dossier: the author and pusher of the infamous ‘Kompromat‘ dossier on Trump (the other BuzFeed dossier); but also a another document that contends that Vladimir Putin personally blocked Mitt Romney for Trump’s SecState. Right. Far from a mercenary purveyor of lies: Steele can be seen to be participating in ‘active measures’ against Trump and Putin at the same time. In fact, he has been on Trump’s case since before he was even involved in politics. “All roads lead to Trump Towers” he said: but this comes from his first major Orbis investigation into how Putin corruptly gained the World Cup …yeah, that World Cup: the one coming up. This boy is connected. Or Trump really is that corrupt. Probably both.
[To be clear again: the dirt he picked up on Trump was incidental to his FIFA investigation – so no suggestion Trump and Putin colluded over the World Cup!]
In fact: the whole anti-Trump, anti-Putin confection of lies is a candy floss spun around two major uncorroborated thesis …the ‘murder’ of Sergei Magnitsky in a Russian jail; and the Kompromat dossier published by BuzzFeed. Both have been pushed hard into the intelligence community, the State Department, the FBI, the DOJ, as well as bullhorned by a complicit and uncritical media …sourced from principally two men: Bill Browder and Steele – who would both appear to be actively working for MI6. Steele’s allegations were funded by Clinton and the DNC; and cross-fertilised with inuendo emanating from the likes of Clinton aides Sid Blumenthal and Cody Shearer – as detailed in this piece:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/christopher-steele-the-real-foreign-influence-in-the-2016-election/
Does this not show that it was British interference in the last US election?
So both sets of lies have become self-corroborating using a “collaboration loop”. For instance: Steele briefs the FBI; then briefs the (Clinton) media; the media produce an ‘independently sourced’ article; the FBI get a FISA warrant based on Steele’s dossier and the Steele briefed media article. Neat, huh? Mueller’s indictments feedback and make it look as though Steele’s information was sound. Steele’s Kompromat gets attached as an appendix to the intelligence dossier that Brennan briefs the Obama regime who then sanction Russia …no evidence required: only raw unverified hearsay Kompromat. Browder’s lies are similarly spun out into the 14 others who died for “helping Russian oligarchs funnel money into London”. A candy-floss and web of deceit spun from the South of England: not Russia.
The chance that Sergei Skripal is randomly connected through his ‘handler’ Pablo Miller to this web are much less than zero. Was he an active participant? We will never know. So throw in a fake Novichok assassination attempt; a dodgy slide show of “unprecedented intelligence sharing”; and pretty soon you have 25 or more countries cross-collaborating to push this shit. Half the world hates Russia based on the biggest conspiracy theory and mother of all #FakeNews. Sod democracy: we never had a functional one anyway. But now we have a fully developed idiotocracy. Browder and Steele: the boys done good?

Francis Lee
Francis Lee

This sort of attempted social and biological engineering isn’t new. Mass ideological manipulation used to be the remit of the church during the middle-ages, but with the secularization trends of the 20th century society, mass manipulation has become a science – a science constructed and (almost) perfected by Edward Bernays, Gustav Le Bon and Graeme Wallas. Most infamously it was operationalised in Nazi Germany during the 1930s. But it was not restricted to the Nazis. Walking around the Imperial War Museum in London looking at the various jingoistic posters is a clear demonstration that anyone could play this game, and they did.
There has also been a copious literature on the present and future development of totalitarianism. George Orwell, ”1984”, Aldous Huxley, ”Brave New World”, Jack London, ”The Iron Heel”, Arthur Koestler, ”Darkness at Noon.” But I think the most imaginative contribution was by H.G.Wells, ”The Time Machine”. The plot was that a clever scientist had invented time travel with a machine which could take him either into the past or into the future. Our time traveller mounts his steed which carries him into the distant future. Here he discovers that the human race has over time mutated into two distinct species: the morlocks and the elois. The morlocks live under-ground and keep the whole show going in terms of reproducing the essentials for living. The elois on the other hand are the descendants of a decadent and corrupt bourgeoisie. The stupid, apathetic elois were terminally useless but kept alive by the morlocks as food – the morlocks were cannibals. There is one particular scene where sirens start to wail. This was the result of some past atomic wars. But now the sirens had a different function. When they were switched on the elois en masse walked towards the fall-out shelters as they had been conditioned to do earlier in their development. Little did they know that they were going to be lunch for the morlocks. The behaviour of the elois is completely beyond the comprehension of our time traveller who simply wishes to get back to Victorian England.
The whole story is a fitting cameo for our time and respresents the possible terminal point of our civilization. Yep, morlocks and elois.
There have been several film versions of Wells’ novella. On a technical point I would like to know how you get clips of the film onto the OffGuardian comments section.

John Watwood
John Watwood

Wells is also the man whom wrote the Manifesto of the Elites. After which, he became a science fiction writer. No coincidences, just connections.

fa100d
fa100d

Possibly this bit of html (?) or maybe something simpler….
https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_video.asp

John Watwood
John Watwood

chuckling Right on. Idiotocracy is the word of the day.

vierotchka

It smacks of desperation…
After all, we can’t have the population know the truth, now, can we?
I read somewhere, several times, that the MSM’s rates have steadily been going down, and that fewer and fewer people take them seriously.

Vaska

It may seem a desperate move, but it’s worked exactly as intended: the majority of Americans actually believe it.

DomesticExtremist
DomesticExtremist

How about “highly likely”, “of a type produced by Russia” and “only plausible explanation” that runs through Ms May’s statement, statements from the EU, NATO, and US like the lettering through a stick of rock?

MichaelK
MichaelK

Isn’t this piece a crystal clear example of propaganda aimed at a mass audience, something, we are told, that doesn’t happen in our part of the world, compared to Russia and China? We are supposed to have a system full of fiercely independent, free and strong-minded journalists that represent a broad spectrum of views, people who aren’t robots all reading from the same state/corporate script.

MichaelK
MichaelK

Fortunately, more and more people are giving up on ‘the News’ and are switching it off and getting on with other things. I don’t think the mass media really has much of a future.

John Watwood
John Watwood

I don’t believe it will have to. When all those people in the MSM are obsolete, they will be done away with. Along with 6.5 billion other individuals. They are just to stupid(ignorant, nascent?) to see it.

Mikalina
Mikalina

They’ve been told they are the ‘special’ ones and they believe it. Works every time.

MichaelK
MichaelK

I’m not quite sure whether this piece, from the New York Times is an April Fool’s joke, or not. I’ll let the keen-eyed observer decide for themselves. In my opinion the exaggerated language and the patent absurdity of much of the arguments, point in that direction. Only it’s getting hard to tell these days when one reads the western media. Is this a parody of fake news inserted by some dissident, appalled at the path we’re on?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/poisoned-door-handle-hints-at-high-level-plot-to-kill-spy-uk-officials-say/ar-AAvm4vU?ocid=spartandhp

Peter
Peter

Hard to tell, indeed, whether the NYT article is an April Fool’s joke or not. If it’s meant to be taken seriously, the authors should be ashamed of themselves, so breathtakingly bad is it. The NYT is giving the Graun a good run for its money in lost standards and abandoned virtue. Facts are not only not sacred, they’ve been abolished.
The NYT article uses absolutely ALL the techniques of ‘big fat nothing burger’ journalism.
It seems OffGraun is under cyber attack. Someone is starting to take it seriously. Good news, I suppose. Cui bono?

John Watwood
John Watwood

I am shocked! There wasn’t a comment section. Weird. But I have a few questions. Moscow is in Europe, shouldn’t that be considered being in the West? Is Ukraine considered West now that it has been ‘liberated’? Is Poland or Romania West or East? Or any other country that resides in those regions? Who gets to decide where the lines of West and East are drawn? I’d like to ask that of MSM and watch them rub their temples and exclaim: “Owww! My head hurts!” laughing. Great comments btw.

Binra (@onemindinmany)

The term ‘democracy’ can mean so many different things as a result of being used (abused) as a symbolic reference for a sense of non tyranny in general terms of holding power accountable or in check to some sense of willing consent of the people.
So appealing for reaction to a sense of ‘threatened democracy’ feels to be still speaking within the framework of a distorted narrative.
If we are to restore and grow a truly human culture in freedom of thought, speech and endeavour that align and embody such freedom, instead of succumbing to an imposed system of tyranny resulting from the corruption and perversion of freedom, then we have to recognize and stand in exactly what we mean – and speak and give witness to the quality of knowing what we mean, instead of running on acquired impressions and conditioned beliefs that assign a sense of identity set over and ‘against’ something else – and thus seeming to be ‘for’ but not rooted in consciously recognized and accepted meaning, value or worth.
There will be no awakening from conflicted subjection to tyranny without awakening to responsibility for the word we give and use. The pen is of a different order than the sword in physical terms, because the ability to recognize, accept and give definition is at the level of mind – where the actions of the body are always and only operating FROM the current set of active definitions. The use of the mind to mask, is a result of attempting and intending to use the mind as a sword. To cut or split off the mind MUST mask itself in physicalized forms in order to engage the experience of power over consciousness as a masked identity and agenda. Firstly in order to do so, and secondly to hide the guilt of the belief one has done so from the expectation of likewise being ‘done to’.
‘Who lives by the sword dies by the sword’ can better point to the identification in using the mind as a weapon, for this choice is the immediate loss of awareness of life in true being – in exchange for power in the world – better said perhaps as power over the effects and outcomes of our own hidden or forgotten agreements and choices. Also pointed to by the phrase ‘Truth is the first casualty of war’.
What then is democracy? Or rather what are the practical ideals that symbolize something alive and moving in our being – that we can uncover, locate, reavaluate, discern and hold worthy? The ‘cut up’ mind thinks in concepts which at best are facets of a greater whole that it cannot see or know – because it was made by the sword. But You were not – and thus can perceive or apprehend in terms of a felt or intuitively recognized wholeness.
The choices of the cut-off mind are always set by a tyrannous framework in which a seeming lesser evil is preferred over and against a greater fear. How else but by this do we all choose the evil and mask it as the good? And in certainty that the real world necessitates our choices.
Our world is offering valid reflections for our own recognition as feedback to the masked off contents of our own mind, unless we are blindly defending a narrative control against a reintegrative opening to the suppressed, rejected and denied. Which of course we interpret fearfully as ‘chaos’ to be defended against, vanquished and managed.
While I don’t always frame in the same parameters as Jordan Peterson, I appreciate his willingness to witness for a freedom of thought, speech and aligned action in open defiance of illegitimate and destructive thinking and identity politicking.
When a true witness comes into the conscious attention as a willingness to engage via communication – it encourages others to live their own truth in a more fearless focus of witnessing. Fearless because the fears are owned and faced and moved through or undone rather than masking off in clever thinking that seeks personal exemptions or self justification.
I am joining in what I feel is your wake up call, but not within poorly defined or falsely framed terms of reference.
Democracy as a mob rule by a manipulated mind is simply mind-capture under tyrannous beliefs set out in the name of freedom, security and institutionalized truth – is allegiance to fear and masking deceit as power to live. Fear triggers reaction unless you put down the sword and listen for the true that the fear would otherwise rule out and keep hidden.
Studying the nature of the ‘problem’ in its own terms becomes a pathology vindicated by the pathological. The definitions that lead to a particular result are what need to be addressed – rather than emotion back reaction and emotion suppressing ‘control.

vexarb

“You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free”.
“Love casteth out fear”.
Or, as Socrates said 500 years before that, “Blow the Democratic Consensus! I don’t care how many people support my opinion, what I want to know is: can you and I reach agreement by following a chain of thought to its Logical Conclusion?

John Watwood
John Watwood

For the primitives(elites, royals, etc) words mean what the say they mean, or wish them to mean. Hate can mean love, war can mean peace. W/e they decide. Shoot, can even do it in a court of law, as long as it is provided to and then stipulated by a judge. laughing Just a play of words, symbols lined out on a piece of parchment. And people still believe that that is ‘rule’. Funny methinks that.