Memory-Holing the “novichok” lie – we need to make sure that doesn’t happen

With the announcement by Porton Down they they can’t – as most of us already guessed – identify the alleged “novichok” type poison that allegedly harmed the Skripals as being of Russian origin, certain things will inevitably follow.
1. The stunned silence while the mainstream media awaits guidelines on how to handle this unexpected intrusion of reality into the narrative
2. A subsequent massive retrenchment, in which recent history is re-shaped, language tortured, tweets deleted and an entire narrative is Memory-Holed before our eyes.
The second part is already happening, and will develop over the next few days. Today’s EU statement to the OPCW shows the way. The UK’s flagrant hysteria of the last weeks, the war cries and spittle-flecked abuse is all being airbrushed away and being replaced with the idea the UK simply requested Russian co-operation and Russia refused – preferring to make nasty insinuations instead.
The BBC is taking a similar approach too:

While over at Orwell HQ (better known as the Guardian), Patrick Wintour weasels his way to the conclusion that it’s Russia’s fault for “exploiting” the UK’s lies and misinformation.
They will be making a concerted effort over the next days and week to make this latest lie – in which the UK government merely and politely “suggested” Russian involvement – the new revised reality.
We must all do our best to make sure this doesn’t succeed.
The truth, we now know beyond doubt, is the UK government and its state-controlled and corporate media provenly put the country on a war footing with a nuclear-armed country based on lies.
Even more than the WMD shame of fifteen years ago, this lie – and the names of all those who were prepared to support it – must not be forgotten


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Old Pepper
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Old Pepper

Theresa may could force Russia any confession if would threatened in case of failure of the ultimatum personally to rape Putin. If I were him and I was under the threat of such super horror-horror I’d confess to anything, right down to personal involvement in the murder of Abraham Lincoln.

Estaugh
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Estaugh

Nobody seems to have heard of the notion of ‘Constitutional Assembly; The Inherent and inalienable right of the Peoples of a Nation to come together and discuss, with the aim to resolve, the issues facing the nations, when the parliament is bankrupt, both of ideas and morality. All you need is twelve good men.
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ron
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ron

at 20.45 tonight Craig Murray’s blog has ‘disappeared’

jazza
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jazza

so who’s for continually paying the bbc tv tax then?
so who’s for continuing the conlablib farce of democracy then?
who’s for supportng the british media then?
I really don’t want to miss the new series of ‘made in Chesea’
FFS

John Gilberts
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John Gilberts

Here in Canada, the response to the rapid deterioration of the Skripal narrative has been to double down on the rampant Russophrenia, as the latest media blitz shows.
Trudeau Links Russians Expelled Over Spy Attack To Nazi Smear Campaign Against Freeland
https://globalnews.ca/4123399/russian-spy-attack-justin-trudeau-2/

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Little Fidelito is 100% controlled by Freedland, the other Ukrainian fascists in Canada linked to the OUN war criminals, and the Zionist Lobby, a real witches’ brew of swine. He’s just a puppet, a sort of Canadian Obama, and probably the chosen putz for coming Anschluss of Canada into the USA.

John Gilberts
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John Gilberts

The corrected url for the above wrong one:
Trudeau Links Russians Expelled Over Spy Attack to Nazi Smear Campaign Against Freeland
https://globalnews.ca/news/4123399/russian-spy-attack-justin-trudeau-2/
“At a press conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Justin Trudeau linked the expulsion of 4 Russian diplomats from Canada with a smear campaign against Chrystia Freeland. Russia has underestimated NATO’s soul and unity,’ Stoltenberg said…”

alaffcreator
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For about a month now I can not get rid of the feeling that I’ve already seen all this somewhere… And then I realized what it reminds to me. The famous work of Kafka. I think now is the best time to reread Kafka’s “The Trial”, or, at least, to watch the great Orson Welles’ movie again. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057427/ You will find there much similar to what is happening now with/against Russia… Сonsidering what Heather Nauert said (“they should be adult and just(!) admit(!) that they did it. There’s nothing shameful in admitting wrong-doing“), considering what B.Johnson, blaming Russia, stated that… Read more »

Johnny Hacket
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Johnny Hacket

When do we get in the UK a news outlet like Media Point in France ? Reading the Graun and trying to correct it’s propaganda is a tiresome task .It’s journalism free dross is often not open to comment and even when it is my comment s are not now moderated as they were usually but I am suddenly “suspended. Using another ID works for a while but they usually catch up with the iP eventually and suspend the ability to comment . I recently got into an exchange regarding the right of nazis to free speech which I oppose… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

I expect all non-swine have bailed out from the ‘Fraudian’ sewer by now. All I see in print are execrable hypocrites and disinformers.

Richard Wicks
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Richard Wicks

We have to make certain that lie that there was a weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq doesn’t happen again.
We have to make certain that the lie that Russia attacked Georgia doesn’t happen again.
We have to make certain that the lie that Russia forcibly annexed Crimea doesn’t happen again.
We have to make certain that the lie that Qadaffi was causing a humanitarian crisis doesn’t happen again.
We have to make certain that the lie that Assad is gassing his civilian population doesn’t happen again.
Yeah…. good luck with that.

JudyJ
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Just watched the BBC’s 10 o’clock News report on the latest events and it did strike me that they were starting to give a slightly less biased – and even more cynical – overview of events. However Ben Wallace, Security Minister, does need to be taken to one side and educated that whilst it may be convenient to say that ‘only Russia designed [sic], made and stockpiled Novichok’ it’s actually not true, thereby shooting holes in his contentions. I was also puzzled that Huw Edwards introduced the item with the statement that President Putin “hopes that everyone can draw a… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Wallace sounds well trained, combining Hitler’s preference for the ‘Big Lie’ with Goebbels’ insistence that a lie, repeated often enough, will become accepted as the truth.

Andrew Nichols
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Andrew Nichols

Sadly the ABC here in Aus wasnt any different with the interviewer just saying it didnt matter and that despite the PD finding, it was only moot and that it was probably still Russia. A seamless transition akin to the 2003 missing Iraqi WMD which were apparently just spirited away to Syria/Iran…(latest designated enemy)

Kathy
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Kathy

The glamoury fell away from their eyes and all became clear. The tasty foods they had been enjoying turned back into nasty unmentionable things that crawled away.The wonderful kings and queens they had been so enthralled by became grotesques and hob goblins. They scuttled into the darkness from where they had once come from when they realized they were being seen in their real skin. The music stopped and the people caught up in the dance could at last stop. In this the realm of the mesmerized and the enchanted the population suddenly realized it was all illusion and lies,… Read more »

JudyJ
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Please can someone wake me up? I’m having the weirdest of delusional dreams. I dreamt, in no particular order: 1) That the Russians immediate offer to help with the Skripal case is unceremoniously rejected and then three weeks later the UK accuse the Russians of not being prepared to ‘assist’. 2) The media come up with all sorts of outlandish and, frankly, inconceivable explanations for how the incident occurred, but as soon as anyone raises questions about the lack of evidence and offers less imaginative suggestions as to whom else might have been involved and why, they are deemed to… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Judy, here in Austfailure, I can barely think of a handful of public figures in politics, the fakestream media and business who are NOT raving psychopaths, (many diabolically Evil), imbeciles, ignoramuses, opportunists or some combination of those ‘Western Moral Values’. Over the last forty years, from the time when the Right, our US ‘allies’ and the Murdoch cancer set out to destroy our greatest ever Government, that of Whitlam, all decent people have been driven from public life, or sold out, as our Labor Party did under Hawke and Keating (who were well rewarded in retirement for their services rendered).… Read more »

Kaiama
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Kaiama

Just take the red pill… NOW!

Ross Hendry
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Stay snoozing. The dream ain’t over yet. We can only hope that come the clear light of day the monsters will be defeated.

Mikalina
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Mikalina

Judy, you need more fluoridated water. Try to get some more glucose fructose corn syrup down you and up your intake of palm oil. Get some of those statin things from the docs; they do wonders for ‘altering’ your system – oh, and get some prozac at the same time – really whacky stuff. Get a couple of aluminium based vaccines and finally, drink and eat as much diet food as you can to drastically increase your aspartame levels – it’s a TRUE neuro toxin made from mixing two chemicals together. You should then be able to understand and believe… Read more »

Betrayed planet.
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Betrayed planet.

Love it, thanks. And you couldn’t be more correct.
We live in a matrix, no doubt.

MichaelK
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MichaelK

There are a lot of people writing stuff in the Guardian that labour under the illusion that they are bursting with wit, flair and imagination. How very droll. In reality they smother the English language and suck all the life out of it, even at their most pretentious. There’s no blood, muscle or bone in their lifeless prose, because, fundamentally, they are preaching lifeless sermons about ‘moral values’ and ‘right-think’ that have next to no connection to the real world around us. It’s this detachment that makes the prose so mind-numbingly tiresome, and, what’s worse, so irrelevant; and in times… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

they smother the English language and suck all the life out of it, even at their most pretentious. There’s no blood, muscle or bone in their lifeless prose, because, fundamentally, they are preaching lifeless sermons about ‘moral values’ and ‘right-think’ that have next to no connection to the real world around us. It’s this detachment that makes the prose so mind-numbingly tiresome, and, what’s worse, so irrelevant; and in times like these when we’ve never needed the power of the plain truth more desperately. as usual, George Orwell explains everything: In our time, political speech and writing are largely the… Read more »

Mikalina
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Mikalina

Except for those readers who have been drinking the cool aid and are on board with the programming – for them, these newspeak pieces re-enforce their perceptions of reality and bring comfort. as they join in with the “wit, flair and imagination”. This level of discourse is what is now taught and accepted in our education system – doesn’t disturb the surface, to quote Pilger.

MichaelK
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MichaelK

I’m finding it increasingly difficult to take these events even remotely seriously. It’s all too much. All too grotesque. All too much like fiction, bad fiction. A bad spy thriller written by Luke Hardon Harding, a guy who is hardly able to breathe he’s so excited about his latest revelations regarding the dastardly devils roosting in the Kremlin’s dark rafters. But despite it all, it is serious stuff. Destroying what little remains of our civilized relationship to Russia. A tawdry government determined to prepare the ground for a coming catastrophe with a casualness that’s chilling in its implications. That such… Read more »

Susan Cora
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Susan Cora

The duplicity of the Guardian recently has been quite shocking and disgusting. I see even today they are still peddling the Corbyn/Labour ‘anti-semitism’ angle.

Mikalina
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Mikalina

I’ve been reading up on the latest in artificial intelligence. My interest was peaked when I heard Stephen Hawkin say that AI would rule us all one day. I thought, oh, get a grip, man. But from what I have read and understood, it really will.
Last year, when suffering from shingles, I watched Battlestar Galactica and Caprica on loop. Sometimes, I think that somehow I may have entered into one of the realities shown, and I’m still there……….

milosevic
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milosevic

My interest was peaked
pique (verb)
to excite (interest, curiosity, etc.): Her curiosity was piqued by the gossip.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pique

Mikalina
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Mikalina

I am slightly dyslexic when I’m tired – something I didn’t know until my students would point to something on the board and say, “is that how you spell …..?” My answer, of course, would be, “ha, just testing.”

intergenerationaltrauma
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Mikalina – love your posts – humor almost makes the global insanity bearable!

Tom Welsh
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Tom Welsh

“Are we here in the U.K. expected to tolerate such appalling abuses of power and such divisive and dangerous behaviour toward another sovereign nation doing their utmost to prevent an escalation of a war no one can win? Are we as citizens expected to watch the country our children live in, where we work, pay taxes, give birth, grow old, become a travesty and a world leader in vicious manipulation, war mongering and what is looking now like an authoritarian state that even Orwell would be astounded at?” I think, among other things, that is what the Skripal episode was… Read more »

Jerry Alatalo
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If humanity is fortunate enough, the Skripal affair will go down in history and remembered by future generations as the “Final False Flag On Earth”.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Final as in the ‘Final Curtain’, I suppose.

flamingo
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flamingo

Wait a minute, that could be a hasty conclusion. After all Micron has just sent the French Foreign Legion to Manbij to save the natives from unreasonable aggression. They do know about false flags those French. What’s the bet they invent another just like Dien Bien Phu to show the Brits what real men are made of.

milosevic
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milosevic

They do know about false flags those French. What’s the bet they invent another just like Dien Bien Phu
In what sense was that a “false flag” event? They weren’t actually defeated by the Vietnamese? Somebody else did it? They faked their own surrender?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dien_Bien_Phu

Schlüter
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Dear Jerry, that sounds very optimistic! If any false flag had the potential to end the false flag nonsense it would have been Nine Eleven, but the majority doesn´t want to take notice yet!
Cordial regards

Brutally Remastered
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Brutally Remastered

Well, clearly something will have to be done. Can we assume a London Eye attack, or another London Underground event?

Francis Lee
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Francis Lee

”Can we assume a London Eye attack, or another London Underground event?” Almost certainly. A war dynamic has been unleashed and the Anglo-zionist lunatics, egged on by the media warmongering scum, will keep pushing until they get their war. I really cannot see any way that normal relations can be restored with Russia in light of the continuing escalation and demonization of Russia in general and Putin in particular. What I can see is as an increasingly unstoppable momentum towards the apocalypse. This is because, like Blair once said of himself, the neo-con schizos have no reverse gear. Of course… Read more »

Ross Hendry
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Very well said. I love “The stunned silence while the mainstream media awaits guidelines on how to handle this unexpected intrusion of reality into the narrative”.
The dog is clearly awaiting guidance from the farmer:
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/im-telling-you-the-man-and-the-dog-are-working-together.jpg

summitflyer
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summitflyer

When I read that sentence I was immediately struck also,what a brilliant way to put it .
Love the pic also .Never had any sheep but did have a border .Smartest of them all .
Cheers.

BigB
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Hold on: this was all the Government? Are we to memory-hole Labour’s lies too? This has been at least as much Labour’s baby: with their partisan Magnitsky agenda and “From Russia with Blood” insinuations. The very same Dianne Abbott that is now backsliding to praise Jeremy’s “thoughtful” approach is the very same Abbott that was bandwagoning to push the other 14 deaths BuzzFeed dossier …warning London and the Home Counties must not ‘become killing fields’; and ingratiate a “striking similarity” to the death of Litvinenko. As did Cooper. Thornberry used her platform to push Labour’s baby – the Magnitsky ammendment.… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

BigB, the so-called ‘Labor’ Party here in Austfailure is just as cynically ‘on board’ with the Russophobia hate frenzy. We, in addition, have been in the throes of a deranged, and increasingly openly racist hate campaign against China, too, for about two years. Led by the Murdoch cancer, of course, ‘think-tank’ pachyderms in the pay of Raytheon, Lockheed et al,and politicians who know how to obey Thanatopolis DC with alacrity. China’s crime? To pay us a 50 billion surplus EVERY year for our rocks? To send 1.3 million polite, high-spending tourists last year? To send us tens of thousands of… Read more »

mog
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mog

Well said BigB.
Why isn’t Corbyn demanding Bojo’s resignation? Oh yeah, because he (and McDonnell) were as bad if not worse in their presenting speculation as fact and needlessly escalating global tensions.
The Tories had zero credibility at the beginning of this affair.
For me, Labour has lost what cred it had over the past month.

BigB
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He hasn’t called for his resignation: but he has been trying to shift blame.
“Where does that leave the Foreign Secretary? Egg on his face for the statement he made on German television.”
He’s not the only one with egg on his face?
“Boris Johnson seems to have completely exceeded the information that he had been given and told the world in categorical terms what he believed had happened and its not backed up by the evidence he claimed to have got from Porton Down in the first place. Boris Johnson needs to answer some questions”
On Sky tv: Corbyn trying to memory-hole Corbyn?
https://www.rt.com/uk/423189-labour-johnson-russia-novichok/

Kenneth G Coutts
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Kenneth G Coutts

Between the lot of them in the cess pit.
All they say is, he’s a very naughty boy.
Jeez
This was and is an international calamity on the grandest of scales.
The English state or proxies did this to
Bring the little Englanders together.
Create a fear that isn’t there, a false fear of an old enemy.
So called.
All engineered by the yanks.
🐼🐼

BigB
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Actually, I think MI6 are at the heart of this, and America’s Russiagate …spun round Steele’s dossier and Bill Browser’s lies. And trust me, there is no sense of national pride in saying that …quite the opposite!

flamingo
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flamingo

Absolutely BigB it is entirely home grown as May is still pandering to the US election loser and her coterie of cretins. It might curry favour with Trump but I think it is too late.
Trump does not really need Russia phobia at all let alone May or even trust her after having the UK state apparatus vilify him, cripple his presidency for its first year and likely cause immense tension in his private life for the past two years.

Admin
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Puzzled by why you would think this needs to be said. Since when do we indulge in partisan party-political point-scoring?

BigB
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Admin: what else needs saying is that between Porton Down and Parliament, probably in the Cabinet Office, the intelligence was doctored …yet Corbyn parroted it nonetheless. This time it was obvious from day one it was lies: uncritically regurgitated lies. What is now exposed that Corbyn is a channel for whatever the intelligence services brief him with. That can’t be memory-holed: he will say what he is told to say as a Privy Councillor. What people think is an independent liberal ‘alternative’ is in fact a puppet of the SIS and Cabinet Office. His consience is no longer his own… Read more »

mog
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mog

Let us not forget Caroline Lucas and the Greens, and many of the ‘New Left’ online media pundits who jumped on board the madness train.
This is not about Left/Right politics, it’s about epistemological schools.

Big B
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Big B

Mog: do you mean the Canary: which is doing its own backsliding by labeling this affair “Corbyn’s finest hour”? LOL! The important thing for me is not the mouthpiece monkeys …it is that the SIS organ grinder has been revealed. Whoever is in the House can be controlled with faulty intel: particularly if they are on the front benches, on committees, or if they are Privy Councillors. If the system breaks down, the politicians blame “rogue elements” for the faulty intel …or the intel JIC can blame the politicians – especially if they “misremember” like Boris did. It is an… Read more »

Mikalina
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Mikalina

You get shown the secrets that no-one else knows about – you become one of the ‘special ones’. It’s a technique that never fails – straight out of Scientology. I don’t think he really believes he has sold out – just real politik.
To be fair, the alternative would probably be a heart attack such as the ones which tend to hit union men.

BigB
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Admin: the statement you made … “The truth we now know beyond doubt is the UK government and its state-controlled and corporate media provenly put the country on a war footing with a nuclear-armed country based on lies.” …no mention of Her Majesty’s Opposition: who went out of their way to create political capital and push a partisan agenda for the upper one percent. That is a seachange in British party politics: if anyone put us on a war footing it was the quislings in the Labour party. Now they have been shown up up for the warmongers they are:… Read more »

Admin
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We absolutely agree. The Labour Party is full of Blairites and neoliberals. Those who aren’t of that persuasion in the party failed to act appropriately. Corbyn’s demurral was noteworthy but not strong enough.

rogerglewis
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Mc Donnels Do not go on RT was for me the worse of the betrayals of examining all sides to get at the truth. http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2016/09/democracy-unfolded-emergent-reality-of.html “In a situation of manipulation, the Left is almost always tempted by a “quick return to power,” forgets the necessity of joining with the oppressed to forge an organization, and strays into an impossible “dialogue” with the dominant elites. It ends by being manipulated by these elites, and not infrequently itself falls in an elitist game, which it calls “realism.” Manipulation, like the conquest whose objectives it serves, attempts to anesthetize the people so they… Read more »

bevin
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bevin

It is a matter of faith with the poster above that there is no difference between the culture of the current neo-liberal Establishment, including Blairites and Tories inter alia, and the alternatives which appear to be offered by Corbyn and his supporters. It is an old theme in English history that there was no difference between Wat Tyler and the Lord Mayor of London, no difference between Wilkes and his fellow MPs, no difference between Cobbett and the Duke of Wellington. Now there is no difference between the Labour Party and the government, a conclusion reached by trivialising obvious differences… Read more »

Susan Cora
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Susan Cora

Corbyn did cave but his initial instincts were right. Can’t say the same about May or Boris.

milosevic
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milosevic

It is a matter of faith with the poster above that there is no difference between the culture of the current neo-liberal Establishment, including Blairites and Tories inter alia, and the alternatives which appear to be offered by Corbyn and his supporters.
Perhaps you would care to offer an alternative explanation, besides the obvious one, for the Corbyn quote reproduced by the poster above:

There is clear evidence that the Russian state has a case to answer, and it has failed to do so. We can therefore draw no other conclusion than that Russia has a direct or indirect responsibility for this.

Francis Lee
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Francis Lee

”As an intellectual exercise this is not an unalloyed loss, there is much to be said for being on one’s guard. The problems really arise when, as is likely to happen next, Corbyn and Labour attack the government for warmongering, abuse of public trust, politicisation of the scientific civil service and the dangerous escalation of international tension.” Hmmm, I remain sceptical about this possible outcome. Labour has always been a loyal and core supporter of the NATO alliance. The UK is an imperialist country, always has been, and the fact that there is a Labour administration in office (please note… Read more »

bevin
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bevin

“..It is time that May, Johnson, the rest of this failing flailing cabinet and their light weight untalented superficial media were tossed to the four bloody winds..” Rarely talked about but of immense significance throughout this long campaign around the Salisbury matter is the fact that this is a last throw by a media which has been told that its days of unaccountability, its ability to lie without fear of consequence and, above all, its semi-official role as state propagandist are over. So far the C21st has been the century of lies in which deliberate misrepresentation by the state has… Read more »

BigB
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Sorry Bevin, I’m not on your case: but the Leveson enquiry was a set up by David Bell, Brian Leveson, and the pernicious stalking horse Common Purpose, a political “charity”, to destroy any last vestige of media independence and make them a fully dependent 4th Estate arm of government propaganda. As such, it was not closed down to enable such lies: it was convened to enable such lies.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/series/leveson-inquiry