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Aftermath of the alleged gas attack on Douma, an evolving narrative: Part 2

a map of potential confrontation

Two days since we posted the first part of this and much has happened. Rumours abounding, threats flying. And a belated sense of fear and disquiet developing in some quarters of the media.

There is still no evidence any chemical attack occurred in Douma at all, and even less for who may have been responsible should it turn out to have occurred, but still the crazed narrative hurtles on with all the energy and disregard for reality of an hallucinating junkie. A new “coalition of the willing” (involving the US, France, UK, and some Arab states) seems to be forming, bent on “punishing” the Assad government for the potentially non-existent attacks. Those suggesting there should be a wait for evidence risk being called “Assad apologists” by people like Michael Gove.

Russia has warned it reserves the right to shoot down any missiles entering Syrian airspace, and is sending military police to Douma, presumably as an attempt to safeguard against any funny business on the ground while international inspectors are there.

The OPCW are apparently going to Douma to inspect the site for evidence.

It remains to be seen if they will have time to get there before the egregiously irresponsible Trump administration launches its now much hyped cruise missile attack on “regime targets” that could – given the insanely schizophrenic and unhinged nature of Trump’s tweets – happen any time and be directed almost anywhere, from Damascus itself to some relatively unimportant military base, depending on what level of crazy he and his staff are currently operating at.

The UNSC resolutions from US and Russia were both defeated yesterday – to no one’s surprise.

Putin appeared in public to welcome some ambassadors to Moscow and express his hope for sanity to prevail in the world. He didn’t seem to have much conviction and looked a little drawn and worn, which is probably understandable.

President of France, Emmanuel Macron, is starting to show signs of disquiet about his country’s potential role in this new and dire enterprise of the damned, and was last seen basically using diplomatic code to beg Russia not to counter-attack should he join in with the “retribution” for a thing that may not even have happened. He offered reassurances that only Syria and not its allies would be targeted; reassurances which of course mean next to nothing in the chaotic reality of war.

If Macron thinks they will help ease the situation he is as much of an idiot as he has always appeared. Possibly even more idiotic than Merkel, who at least seems to have had the sense to keep mostly quiet over this.

In the UK a similar sense of vague unease is percolating down. While the usual asses continue to bray for the world’s rapid incineration by thermonuclear fusion,

many of the more intelligent amongst the elites and their media are beginning to be awakened to the one ethical consideration they still understand – their own personal safety.

Outlets such as the Guardian are running editorials calling for caution, and staff opinion pieces that deplore Trump’s reckless language because even though Assad is, of course (on the basis of no evidence at all) a “monster”, we only want to use that as an argument for killing Syrians – not ourselves.

Even the BBC’s Daniel Sandford, not the most astute or inquisitive of state-funded journos, seemed taken aback at the lunacy of Trump’s “get ready Russia!” tweet.

British MPs are expressing disquiet at British troops being committed to what could become war with Russia without parliamentary approval.

At the same time there is a conspicuous lot of airy nothing coming from PM Theresa May, who looks incredibly anxious and shifty while failing to clarify anything at all about her intentions.

Amongst the unchecked rumours are claims the Chinese fleet is steaming to liaise with Russia in the Med (unlikely at the moment), and that the Donald Cook is heading for the Syria coast, along with a large US task force.

On the bright side “analysts” say a direct cash between Russia and US is “unlikely”.

Oh and we can’t leave this without mentioning the fact the UK representative to the UN, Karen Pierce (the lady who thinks Karl Marx was Russian), turned up for the UNSC debate yesterday wearing a leopardskin tiara and a feather boa.

It’s not the greatest crime against humanity ever committed, but it has to be up there.

Time will tell if this turns into WW3 or a damp squib. We’ll be back with more as things develop.


    • And there was the weapons factory found in other liberated parts of E Ghouta stocked will all sorts of equipment for making more advanced chemical weapons and dozens of drums of chlorine, confirmation of what many of us already knew, that the terrorists have no shortage of this sort of material. But the western press didn’t want to know about that.

  1. Not sure what is going on – even on RT. They were trying to jump between the live UNSC meeting and the live Russian Ministry of Defence Press briefing. In the latter – and I saw it myself – about an hour ago the Head of the Armed Forces said that they have evidence that the UK in collaboration with the White Helmets was responsible for staging the incident in Douma. I thought ‘that’s it’, the Russians have had enough and are going on the offensive. No one on RT has mentioned it since. What is going on? I googled it and see that the Daily Mail Online has just put an article online in the last 40 minutes or so covering this (‘Russia accuses Britain of faking….’). but no one else has. Surely, it’s an explosive accusation?

  2. Teharan sheds a bit more light on our Spec Spooks in Syria via Indie BTL:

    lundiel 2 hours ago

    From what I read Tehran news agency) there was a joint operation between US, Israel, Jordan NATO and terrorist groups in eastern Ghouta in which the terrorists would attack Damascus on several fronts, taking as much ground as possible while the others provided air cover. Events overtook them when the Syrian army scored rapid, major victories in Eastern Ghouta leaving special forces marooned.

  3. It is important to put the Latest Syrian Blow-Up and False Flag in the context of the war on terror starting With 9/11 but going back even further to Clinton and Bosnia/Kosovo .

    From Tony Carlucci’s excellent Blog Land Destroyer.

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    Tony Cartalucci
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    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      That certainly reduces my admiration for Cartalucci somewhat. His ignorance and paranoid conspiracy mongering in regard to anthropogenic climate destabilisation almost equals yours. His geo-political insights remain cogent, however.

  4. tecumseh remembers says

    same old game, good cop bad cop…blowing hot an cold – taking us to the brink – as in case you dared to forget – then a gentle reminder to imagine on…..Billowing fiery mushrooms and blackened bacon – So is the power to feed the message weakness – and as they say….two wings of the same bird – and both fanning the hell flame that turns up the heat to power the machine that rips apart the flesh of the land….so go ahead – pick a side slave, you want to believe your special, that you’ll survive, dont you want to be on the winning team?
    But anyway – it doesn’t matter, it’s what They want You to do – go direct to the deep – and think of yourself.

  5. “Karen Pierce (the lady who thinks Karl Marx was Russian), turned up for the UNSC debate yesterday wearing a leopardskin tiara and a feather boa”

    Ahaha 😀 Thanks god not with mohawk haircut or in Morpheus’ cloak…

    I don’t want to insult UK’ citizens (sure they deserve much better that this lady in UN), but a few days ago in twitter i saw a comment – the guy wrote “Am i the only one who think that the British Ambassador to the UN looks like mistress of the bawdy house”? 😀 This comment got hundreds of likes.. 😀

    Haha, we in Russia are no better, we have our own freaks (State Duma deputy Valentina Petrenko):

    • @alaffcreator. That reply got hundreds of likes because it matched the face to the situation: keeper of a bawdy house. One of the great underexploited themes in literature: a young girl, full of idealism and vivid with the good looks of youth, starts out on a wonderful career — and gradually the compromises of life and the pain of living take their toll, and its “cheerio, my deario, been there seen it all but i was once cleopatra and i’m still a lady”. — Mehitabel by Don Marqis

  6. Trump, the US version of Gorbatchev
    by Thierry Meyssan
    For Thierry Meyssan, the policy of the United States since the fall of the Soviet Union has been a combat between two schools of thought. On one side, the partisans of prosperity, and on the other, the partisans of imperialism. Money or Power. This cleavage exists within each party, Republican and Democrat. However, time flies, and the United States is now on the edge of inner collapse. As of now, Donald Trump finds himself in the uncomfortable position of Mikhaïl Gorbatchev.


    This is a very interesting piece from Thierry Meyssan back in January.

    The Federal Reserve is apparently Eyeing lifting US Interest Rates and the Trade War rhetoric was really getting going before the latest Pantomime.

    The US Task Force is not going to get to the Gulf before the month of May any action before then would fall on the shoulders of an under-invested UK Navy and The French. Macron has been flouncing about but Syria is not Libya and The French whilst adept at espionage ( Rainbow warrior anyone.) are not really going to take on Russia.
    Saudi and Israel have been up to their necks as have US and UK with the rebel (Islamist) Jihadis But its all very much up in the Air. Tillerson’s departure is curious of course Bolton is a disastrous Replacement and Pompeo is also not a good sign but Tillerson was obviously still pushing for a section of the Oligarchy which Trump is not In?

    For those here old enough to remember Kremlin watching in the Cold war I think Thierry Meysams piece linked above is a useful bit of Whitehouse Watching. It is all about the Petro Dollar at the end of the day and how the Faction of the Oligarchy Putin Stands With and The Other Factions decide to get away from the Exorbitant privilege of Petro DOllar hegemony.

    The End Game has always been a Carbon Based Currency, the religious significance of the CLimate AGW meme, And other Catastrophic and Misanthropic poppy cock trotted out by the commissars of Climate political correctness does manifest in zombie-like kill all Dis-believers cult to with Chomsky’s discourse on Bakunin here is quite apt.

    “We must now take precautions to prevent you from being embarrassed by something in which the ignorant majority is at fault for lack of proper consideration, and so from supposing with them, that man has not been created truly good simply because he is able to do evil. … If you reconsider this matter carefully and force your mind to apply a more acute understanding to it, it will be revealed to you that man’s status is better and higher for the very reason for which it is thought to be inferior: it is on this choice between two ways, on this freedom to choose either alternative, that the glory of the rational mind is based, it is in this that the whole honor of our nature consists, it is from this that its dignity is derived.”


    ”They [the Marxists] maintain that only a dictatorship—their dictatorship, of course—can create the will of the people, while our answer to this is: No dictatorship can have any other aim but that of self-perpetuation, and it can beget only slavery in the people tolerating it; freedom can be created only by freedom, that is, by a universal rebellion on the part of the people and free organization of the toiling masses from the bottom up.´´
    —Mikhail Bakunin, Statism and Anarchism

    “Who seeks for better of thee, sauce his palate
    With thy most operant poison! What is here?
    Gold? yellow, glittering, precious gold? No, gods,
    I am no idle votarist: roots, you clear heavens!
    Thus much of this will make black white, foul fair,
    Wrong right, base noble, old young, coward valiant.
    Ha, you gods! why this? what this, you gods? Why, this
    Will lug your priests and servants from your sides,
    Pluck stout men’s pillows from below their heads:
    This yellow slave
    Will knit and break religions, bless the accursed,
    Make the hoar leprosy adored, place thieves
    And give them title, knee and approbation
    With senators on the bench: this is it
    That makes the wappen’d widow wed again;”
    ― William Shakespeare, Timon of Athens

    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      To claim that anthropogenic climate destabilisation caused by the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is anything other than the ‘settled science’ that the Academies of Science of the planet declare it to be (as do >99% of actively peer-reviewed and published climate scientists now)as the weather and climate disasters and rapid changes to the planet’s climates are there for all to see, worldwide, is either madness or some sort of disinformation campaign, possibly intended to discredit this site and its highly useful contributions.

      • equating scepticism with mental illness or some sort of attempt to discredit other opinion is just plain daft.
        The point of my Post is to consider the Carbon Based world currency which I believe is the objective of the Oligarchy and which is actually a perfectly plausible speculation as to why so much has been invested in a narrow aspect of Climatology based upon the falsified Antthropogenic CLimate Change du

  7. A. J. B says

    What I find very curious is that, on each occasion when the aftermath of ‘a chemical attack’
    is filmed , it’s only children and occasionally men that seem to be affected. Someone has
    invented a special chemical that ignores grown up women?

    • Indeed A.J.B. I have seen the WH rescue one elderly lady but just like the aftermath of an alleged CW attack, women certainly aren’t allowed to be man-handled by strangers. I’m assuming that it is a step down from the medieval practices associated with our Saudi friends, after all, many terrorists get their remuneration from them. I’m not sure what the customs are because they vary so much from one community to the next but your observation about grown women not being killed in CW attacks would also concur with the penchant for sex slaves amongst these particularly abhorrent young men – Only if they are non believers of course. I suspect the victims in all these CW attacks are Shia or Alawite victims.

  8. Thomas Peterson says

    Russia cannot sit by and allow yet another attack on their ally Syria. This time they must fire back or lose all credibility. That’s why this is so dangerous.

    • flamingo says

      Thank you Thomas Peterson, times certainly are dangerous and the danger was instigated by the odd Skripal ‘poisoning’ and the lack of evidence for anything. Could the world public be provided with all of the evidence including all statements given to police and other authorities by the Skripals. And lets drop the pretence of ‘need for privacy’ as the world is surely near to brink of annihilation due to the Skrippal and then Douma poison allegations.

      In fact the Skrippal circumstance comes terrifyingly close to a crime against humanity as it has terrified us all that our leaders will engage in the mindless spiral of war. Not since the Cuban missile crisis has the global threat been so acute. The Skripals beg for privacy while the world begs for peace. Can we have full disclosure from these two victims or should we ask the International Criminal Court to prosecute a crime against humanity just so we may examine the evidence.

      • Mulga Mumblebrain says

        The whole episode, from the Skripal poisoning, the ‘novichok’ lies, the holding incommunicado of the Skripals in open defiance of treaty obligations with Russia and customary International Law, the predicted jihadist false flag gas attack (the latest of a series) the preposterous lies that ‘nerve agents’ were added to chlorine gas, the hyper-belligerence of the Sabbat Goy stooges May, Micron and Trump, the ongoing corruption of the OPCW, and the staggering belligerence, hypocrisy, mendacity and TOTAL 100% deviation-less Groupthink of the Western fakestream media swine, tells you that this whole episode was carefully and completely planned. To what end?
        Plainly to reverse Syria’s victory over the jihadist death-squad vermin, the West’s cats-paws. With thousands of Daash butchers safe behind US lines in north-east Syria, no doubt doing some R & R (sexual assault, head-sawing, child-crucifying-perhaps they could start a little cottage industry in kiddy snuff porn for their US masters-they’d love that sort of thing)and re-training, with the phony FSA boasting of going on the attack after the expected US and stooge rain of fire, in Libyan fashion, and Israel just itching to ensure that the Oded Yinon Plan is realised and Syria vivisected, this amounts to a real new level in sheer, blood-crazed, Evil, even for the great and glorious West. The next shoe to fall must surely be a Ukronazi rampage against eastern Ukraine. Apparently the Ukronazi death-squadslike the Azov Battalion butchers have welcomed Chechnyan Daash killers into their ranks, due to their experience in and love of killing and torturing Russians.

    • Peter says

      In the posted extract, Ms Pierce also states that the Russian Federation “condones the use of chemical weapons in Syria”, which it doesn’t.

  9. Breaking news! The “evidence” has finally been found and it is incontrovertible! Apparently Teresa May and Boris Johnson went to Douma and investigated the crime scene for themselves. While searching through a random garbage can at the site of the attack they discovered damning evidence of Syrian and Russian involvement. This information hasn’t been totally confirmed yet, but early reports suggest that Teresa and Boris found not only Assad’s passport, BUT ALSO Putin’s passport at the scene of the crime! What further “evidence” could we possibly need? Of course this cements the deal and anyone with an ounce of integrity must certainly believe that WWIII should commence immediately! I mean what other options could we possibly have now that the “facts” are in? — Sorry, my apologies, it’s hard to even do good satire on this rot its so totally irrationally crazed, blatantly dishonest and corrupt, just like the sleaze balls peddling it non-stop on MSM!

  10. Jen says

    I would ask Off-Guardian to leave the leopard-skin tiara and the feather boa out of the discussion. At least they lent the diplomat a dignity she promptly lost once she opened her mouth.

    • mathiasalexander says

      I agree with your general position here but a gentleman never publicaly comments adversly on a womans appearance, especially if she is an opponent.

      • Harry Law says

        Winston Churchill was no gentleman. This is what he is alleged to have said…
        When accused by Bessy Braddock [Labour] of being ‘disgustingly drunk’ the Conservative Prime Minister responded: ‘My dear, you are ugly, and what’s more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly.’
        Lady Astor said to Churchill, “Winston, if I were your wife I’d put poison in your coffee.”
        Winston Churchill: “Nancy, if I were your husband I’d drink it.”

          • Francis Lee says

            Here’s couple more:

            ”An emplty taxi stopped outside of 10 Downing Street and Attlee (leader of the opposition) got out.”


            ”The Right Honourable Gentleman on the opposing benches has got a great deal of modesty. The Right Honourable Gentlemen has a great deal to be modest about.”

            • Churchill was right; Attlee had a great many accomplishments to be modest about: getting the war effort going while Churchill was making great speeches (see memoirs of lady who took the Cabinet notes); seeing to it that the country increased its standard of health and nutrition while fighting a major — the first ever such rise in the history of warfare; taxing the rich; nationalizing the railways and other public utilities — and (wait for it, wait for it!) don’t forget the National Elf Service, guv.

              What has Churchill got to show — except show?

              • PS The antipathy between Churchill and Attlee was deeply personal: Churchill boasted, “I have set 3 kings upon their thrones” and loved Great Britain to have ever more colonies, “wider still and wider”; Attlee was so modest about setting India free that I almost forgot to mention it. MacMillan followed Attlee with the Wind of Change speech, and getting Ernie Marples to build half a million council houses — which is why the Churchill toffs in the Conservative Party forced him to resign; our last decent Conservative PM.

              • Mulga Mumblebrain says

                He poisoned some Iraqis and murdered a few million Bengalis through deliberate starvation. ‘Western liberal values’ at their finest.

    • From Karen Pierce, A Rhymer Redeemed

      Our shepherd, our way, our gate
      Totally Holy and justified
      Trust Him now to totally secure your fate.

      [I believe her; but why does Karen look so unhappy? Is it because what she is now being asked by vicar’s daughter Theresa to say, and the seat which she is dishonouring by saying it from, are troubling Karen with a sense of Sin? Is the cognitive dissonance of Karen’s attire a mute testimony to the cognitive dissonance in her soul?

      • Mikalina says

        Actually, I would get some uncomfortable vibes from that statement. Jesus is our shepherd and the gateway to God. Which ‘god’ is she referring to?

        • She is referring to the One God, Creator of the Universe, the Unknown God nearer than our thoughts and further than the furthest star, the God who died on the cross the most ingenious instrument of torture ever devised by the perverted intellect of Homo Sapiens, who cried out in his agony, My God, My God, why have You deserted me? and rose on Easter to promise us Eternal Life if we believe and listen to His message — and carry it out with faith, hope and charity — and the greatest of these is charity.

  11. The greater worry could be the third false flag of recent events.
    As the Russians field the incoming missiles, a strike comes from one of our ‘allies’ (near Syria), wiping out a US aircraft carrier (there is a precedent for this on the 8th of June, 1967, USS Liberty, 6 day Arab/ Israeli war- worth checking out).
    This would effectively wipe out all opposition to the the war (911 style), as the increasingly sceptical public are beginning to wake up and prepare massive opposition to the stupidity of what’s being told.
    The likes of Peter Hitchens and Tucker Carston would be silenced and Corbyn forced into submission. The collateral damage would be worth the the PR coup. Carte Blanche to the crazies to what they want. Russian denial only adds to the venom.
    This would only leave the chess player, in check without queen, rook, bishop or knights, only one gambit. In schoolboy parlance, – everyone is prepared to fight until they get a hard hit on the nose. JB

    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      If that happened, we would ALL be dead in days, if not hours. The mania for group forced mass suicide of the Western ‘elites’ makes the events at Jonestown look utterly inconsequential in contrast. Perhaps there is something in the idea of possession by devils after all.

  12. Kaiama says

    Oh and we can’t leave this without mentioning the fact the UK representative to the UN, Karen Pierce (the lady who thinks Karl Marx was Russian), turned up for the UNSC debate yesterday wearing a leopardskin tiara and a feather boa.

  13. Estaugh says

    Crazy!!!! Whatever comes to pass, a social tsunami is in the offing. If World War Last can be avoided, the social shift cannot. Financial collapse stares us in the face, and with that famine, disease, domestic conflict and God knows what else. One thing I am clear about though. Forthwith I refuse to obey any governance that lies, manipulates, or attempts to limit my inherent, inalienable rights. The red line has been crossed and we’ve been double-crossed. ——– April 15th, the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic. Just thought I’d mention it.

    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      As Chomsky has been saying for a while, the world faces two existential crises unprecedented in history. First there is the ecological Holocaust, where an expert UN group recently observed that ‘global ecological collapse is imminent’. The chances of saving ourselves from that approximate to zero, it being almost certainly too late, and the psychopathic Right still resolutely refusing to even admit that the crisis exists, let alone be tackled.
      And, the other is thermo-nuclear obliteration, a threat once thought resolved, now plainly itself ‘imminent’ as well. Once again the Western Right is responsible, the USA never having ceased a way to achieve ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’ over all the world, even including the ability to ‘prevail’ in a ‘nuclear exchange’. To that end they abrogated the ABM Treaty, set up ‘missile defence’ sites on Russia’s borders, and St. Obama the Omniduplicitous, set out to spend one trillion on ‘nuclear modernisation’ including how to make nukes more ‘usable’.
      The entire War of Terror since the false-flag 9/11 ‘New Pearl Harbor’ has been the process of a tiny, psychopathic, elite seeking to destroy all resistance to its global rule over humanity, forever. These people are Evil Incarnate and will certainly destroy humanity if they are no longer to be its Masters, in a fit of rage at the impudence, if for no other reason.

      • Paul says

        Could agree with everything here, though that would depend on what you mean by the Right (I would suggest that this should include the Right posing as the Left). The bird of prey (or carrion) with two right wings…

        • Mulga Mumblebrain says

          The Right are the psychopaths, the insatiably greedy, the haters of all others (including one another and, often, themselves) the worshipers of death and lovers of violence, and those possessed of no human empathy or compassion. Other vices and present in different individuals, to varying degrees, but basically they are the Evil ones.

  14. DomesticExtremist says

    Where on earth did they find Karen Pierce – she’s all hair and mucus.
    Are we in a “world’s worst diplomat” contest?

    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      She looks like the spawn of the union of Boris Johnson and the Skripal’s deceased moggy.

      • Jen says

        At least the cat put up a fight when the police officer first picked it up and tried to put it in the container marked “To: Porton Down”.

        You can guess what happened next to the fellow – that’s right, he was the third patient.

        I’m sorry that the cat was then forced to starve.

  15. Christopher says

    Today in the Times May apparently reluctant to got to bomb Syria because (check this) she wants more evidence of chemical weapons attacks, whilst in the telegraph she is totally supportive of American military attacks without the need for parliamentary vote. MSM out of step?

    • DomesticExtremist says

      Duff UK intel on Skripal and Douma will have to be revealed.
      May has lost her bottle and is figuring out how to explain this to our allies who have just booted out a load of Russian diplomats.
      Get the popcorn…

      • Mikalina says

        May: I think they’re all lying to me.
        SPAD: (straight out of Oxford; uncle’s in the FO; Yes, Prime Minister.
        May: I need some expert advice.
        SPAD: (dreaming of place in House of Lords): Yes, Prime Minister.
        May: Run a search for someone who can help me.
        SPAD: (interrogating (deep dive) database with SPAD access but not PM): Several names have come up, Prime Minister. Do you have a keyword?
        MAY: Try ‘most experienced and knowledgeable bio-chemist’.
        SPAD: (very young, no memory, no history). Yes, Prime Minister
        MAY: Well?
        SPAD: (very excitedly) One name’s come up and it starred with high level security too.
        May: Oh, thank goodness. Who is it?
        SPAD: It’s……. someone called……..David Kelly!
        May: Oh, bugger.

        Oh, bugger, indeed.

  16. Google Talpiot Program says

    “In the case of aggression against Israel, not only will the United States stand by Israel’s side — Russia, too, will be on Israel’s side,” Russian Deputy Ambassador to Israel Leonid Frolov said. “Many of our countrymen live here in Israel, and Israel in general is a friendly nation, and therefore we won’t allow any aggression against Israel.”

    • Laguerre says

      A form of words from the Russian ambassador. Could well go differently in fact.

      • Hopefully yes… but for those sitting on the fence vis-a-vis Putin and Russia this would be very telling…

      • Google Talpiot Program says

        Why would you think that?

        Russia never did or said anything when Israel attacked Iranian targets in Syria previously.

  17. Thomas Prentice says

    Why the faster-than-light-speed turnaround trime from alleged events and yellow journalism war hysteria from the military and security regimes?

    The shooting down of the Malaysian aircraft (by Ukrainian troops probably directed by the CIA ) but blamed on Russia by Biden and the Obama regime.

    The Skripal poisoning hysteria within 48 hours.

    The less-than-24-hours turnaround from the alleged gas attack in Syria as well as ALL OTHER alleged gas attacks.

    What is the rush here?

    Where is the fire?

    What is motivayting the White Western Powers and Israel to cast about frantically for a cassus belli — ANY CASSUS BELLI — for war ANYWHERE?

    Is it financial like debt-driven?

    Is it Pipelinistan? (Pepe Escobar’s term)

    Is it government of, by and for the pyshcopaths?

    A starving war economy that can’t get enough cash out of Afghanistan and the otherr small wars and drone bombings?

    And complete abandonment of every pillar of Western Evidence-Based Reason and Internatonal Law.

    Is it the thrashing about of the England / US / Eu / Nato collapsing empire?

    Why BOTHER saving Western Civilization?



    • Mikalina says

      I’d go for the psychopath theory. All this is entertainment for the masses – we have very short attention spans and need constant feeding. Also keeps the anxiety levels really high and lots of negative energy.

      Meanwhile, the rulers are taking away: every. single. one. of. our. freedoms.

      • Mikalina says

        We KNOW something is terribly wrong but are still can’t quite see that the world around us has changed and been taken over completely by the ‘elite’. I think this description by Phil Rockstroh describes us now:

        ” deracinate an animal from its natural habitat and it will evince, on an instinctual basis, a fight-or-flight response.

        …If caged, the unfortunate creature will pace the confines of its imprisonment, chew and tear at its fur and flesh, become irritable, enervated, languish and even die from the deprivation of the environment it was born to inhabit. A caged animal, even if the unfortunate creature endures captivity, is not the entity nature conceived; the living being has been reduced to A Thing That Waits For Lunch.”

        I don’t think it is the late stage of capitalism. I think it is the realisation of totalitarianism.

        • Paul says

          Interesting reflection. “Inverted totalitarianism” as Chris Hedges frequently refers to our polity.

        • Mulga Mumblebrain says

          It is the late stage of human existence on Earth. With ecological collapse imminent, even the lunatic deniers must sense, in their animal being, that Death is consuming all other Life on Earth, and will not spare the psychopathic ape. Every day we hear of some mass death, some ecosystem collapse, some new consequence of climate destabilisation, always ‘far earlier than predicted’. And the very absence of Life, as insects disappear, as song-bird populations crash, as all higher animals near extinction, as plastic chokes the oceans and is ingested by sea-life and as tropical rain-forests are torched for soy, cattle or palm oil, even the dead souls of the Right must surely hear Death’s footsteps, right behind them.

      • flamingo says

        Perhaps the belligerants want to test a trial run of Russias new hypersonic weapons assuming there are only a few available and the production run for a few hundred ++ has not begun. Certainly Russia must be taking orders for these new delights from countries that have suddenly suspended orders for all forms of battleships and submarines.

        The loss of that volume of trade would terrify a capitalist let alone military industrial oligarch. If Russia is leading with this technology, the game has not only changed but rather the Navy game is over. Its enough to cause hysteria.

        • Mikalina says

          Which is probably the discussion taking place behind closed doors – leaving the media circus for the plebs.

    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      Population reduction? The ‘useless eaters’ Final Solution? But why war with Russia? It does not compute. Bio-warfare is so much more efficient and doesn’t destroy lovely property.

    • Jen says

      It’s the “Carpe Diem” version of what Naomi Klein might call “shock therapy”.

  18. Harry Stotle says

    The parallels with Libya are striking and Syria will, no doubt, end up as a similar broken state if the US have their way – the techniques for regime change are now well established (illustrated very nicely in this documentary)

    As with Libya do we have ………

    Massive intelligence flaws – check
    Demonisation of leader – check
    False flag human rights concerns (threatened genocide in Libya – chemical weapons attack in Syria) – check
    Mobilisation of complicit MSM – check
    Slippery western political figures relying on an ill-informed or at least apathetic public – check.

    Of course this time the fly in the ointment is Russia, and perhaps to a lesser extent anti-war voices in Britain.

    In reponse Corbyn has been tarred as a supporter of anti-semitism while Putin is apparently killing former intelligence personnel (or trying to) in Salisbury.
    Assad is of course is ‘gassing his own people’ – at least these are some of the things the Guardian would have you believe, the war loving bastards.

  19. Kavy says

    The Guardian editorial yesterday calling for a calming down left the CiF open for over 24 hours and might still be open. I wrote something that I thought they would remove as I implied the chemical attack might be a false flag but my comment was still there this morning and it had got 95 likes, and I’ve never had anything like that before.

    I noticed other people were more direct about it being a false flag and some had over 135 likes. It’s unusual for the Guardian to allow such decent. Maybe they are scared.

    • DomesticExtremist says

      I”ve been having a lot of fun on that thread myself 🙂

    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      They ought to be. Streicher got his neck snapped for less enthusiastic war-mongering aggression than the Fraudian has practised for years now. Simon Tisdall, this week, in my opinion, was truly deranged in his bellicose aggression.

      • Mikalina says

        How come teaching your dog to do a nazi salute for a giggle (Scotland) is prosecuted as hate crime whereas Tisdall can spew his hate everyday to millions (well, several hundred) and get away with it. It is equally a crime. Someone phone the police.

    • Etegere says

      If the Guardian had tried to censor everyone who stated that they don’t believe the lies of the UK government, they’d have nothing but moderated comments on that thread. Beyond a certain level it would simply validate to all, in the most obvious way, what many of us have been saying for years about their heavy-handed, one-sided censorship regime.

      Add to that the fact the moderators and editors can see from the huge number of recommends just how overwhelming the public feeling is on this, they are left with no choice but to keep comments up. In the end clear, strong public opinion can have a positive effect on how the press behave, even the more dishonest press like the Guardian.

      • Mikalina says

        Sorry, wishful thinking. You still believe that we live in a democratic country and that Habeas Corpus exists.

        The ‘name of the game’ is information CONTROL. The time is now right for an opposition voice to the latest Hollywood scripted virtual reality epic called “May’s bombing of Syria” so as to pull back from the brink of actual fighting. The discussion over “The Great Game” goes on behind closed doors, internationally; land, resources, finances, arms production/sale, i.e. power.

        So, 24 hour open comment on Guardian; BBC journalist tweeting but having tweet removed (so daring); doubts being spread about gas attack in Syria; awareness of huge public movement against ‘war’. Corbyn growing a pair and ‘challenging’ May.

        There will be no fighting and we can all pat ourselves on the back because we stopped it. BUT meanwhile, back at the ranch:

        The Palestinians are still being murdered in a genocide programme by the COWARDLY IDF;
        Yemeni children are still dying of cholera to pay for our lifestyle;
        Who are the 280 British passport holders found in Ghouta?;
        The NHS is being deliberately systematically dismantled;
        The Education system is damaging our children (seriously)in one giant mind control experiment;
        Who was controlling Johnson on QT?
        Do you know that while you are deciding whether the baby you are looking at has been gassed by Syria or by the White Helmets that is HAS BEEN GASSED? You are being manipulated into watch snuff movies without realising it. Now, there’s something to tell your grandchildren.

        And finally, what more of our freedoms have been taken away today? For the US, read and for the UK know that this is coming to a cinema near you in the very near future.

  20. An instant & overwhelming EWS strike by Russia should US & Co. attack would be the best solution all around!

    BUT can this be done in such a way in which all US missiles are eliminated & no US personnel are killed ? If so I say bring it on as after a response like that the US would lie down and shut up for ever in fact.

    We all saw what the Russians did with EWS Khibiny to the USS Donald Cook on April 10th 2014 !

    • EWS over USA was floated BTL on Saker and approved because it would bring home to the Yanks the horrors of Real War by depriving them of TV.

    • I am pretty sure that account re: the Cook has been shown to be false.

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