The goal of propaganda is a population that polices itself…

…or why the attacks on Jeremy Corbyn are not what they seem…

MarkGB

Propaganda has reached its zenith when each member of the target population thinks the same; when they are afraid to think differently. At this point ‘leadership’ may commit whatever atrocities it sees fit…in the certainty that the population will either not ‘see’ it, or will view the expression of criticism as a more heinous crime than the act being observed. This is achieved through cementing a ‘false equivalence’ in the mind of the group. Such a false equivalence is being cemented in the UK right now – the idea that criticism of Israel’s persecution of Palestinians is an act of anti-Semitism.

The propagandist seeks to bend the ‘group mind’. Thoughts and actions consistent with the ‘narrative’ are deemed to be socially acceptable & politically correct…ones that challenge it are regarded as socially UN-acceptable & politically IN-correct. Overtime this is reinforced through a dynamic that exists within every human grouping, and many species of mammal – fear of disapproval. Ergo, the propagandist is employing a form of ‘crowd control’.

When the fear of disapproval becomes so strong that one’s sense of belonging, or even physical survival, depend on adherence to the narrative…when failure to comply with it attracts immediate rebuke from other members of the group…then the population can be said to be policing itself. That is how ‘cults’ function, and more frequently than you might imagine…it’s how intelligence agencies and other governmental figures attempt to work through the media.

This is what Orwell warned of in the dystopia of ‘1984’. The Party had achieved what we might call a ‘maintenance state’ for the narrative – society was policing itself. For example, in Oceania, children were taught to report their parents to the ‘Thought Police’ if they demonstrated any sign of disloyalty to The Party. Disloyalty was considered a ‘thought crime’:

Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them. There is almost no kind of outrage – torture, imprisonment without trial, assassination, the bombing of civilians – which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side. The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them” George Orwell, 1984

This process is happening now. The false equivalence of ‘criticism of Israel’ with ‘anti-Semitism’ is being inculcated into society in general, into the Labour Party in particular, and in its sharpest manifestation, into the smear campaign against Jeremy Corbyn.

As you will already be aware (unless you’ve been trapped behind the fridge for several weeks) Corbyn is the target of a virulent campaign from a number of different directions, which have made ‘common cause’ on the accusation of anti-Semitism. Here, for example, are three major Jewish Newspapers, competitors of each other, who made the extraordinary decision to agree a common headline and verdict on ‘Corbyn’s Labour Party’:

And here is the Jewish Chronicle after Margaret Hodges attacked Corbyn in public with ‘you’re a fucking racist and anti-Semite’:

The mainstream media has not missed any opportunity to bash Corbyn either. Here’s a relatively mild headline from the Sun, who selected a comment from one of Corbyn’s backbenchers, Wes Streeting:

And to demonstrate that upmarket & downmarket means little when it comes to this stuff, here’s a hysterical comment from the usually ‘sober’ Telegraph:

What you will probably NOT have seen, however, is coverage of a statement published by 650 members of the Jewish Community, who are passionately opposed to the narrative. Here is the statement from ‘Independent Jewish Voices’ whose aim is ‘human rights and a just and peaceful solution’:

Neither is it likely that you will have heard the following statement from a Jewish academic, a person I’ve never met, but one who strikes me as a thoroughly intelligent and compassionate human being, Professor Annabelle Sreberney:

At this point, let me spell out my personal opinion regarding Jeremy Corbyn’s alleged anti-Semitism:

You have to be a propagandist, an opportunist, or a complete idiot to discount decades of evidence demonstrating that Jeremy Corbyn is an enemy of racism. Wake up and smell the coffee – the guy stands up for the underdog…racists, by stark contrast, are always bullies
The reality I perceive, is not that Corbyn hates Jews, or loves Arabs…it’s that he challenges injustice where he sees it – and he sees it in the treatment that Palestinians receive from the State of Israel.

The Propagandists in this situation must ‘redirect’ the attention of the population to the ‘false equivalence’: Criticism of Israel = Anti-Semitism.

The Opportunists in the equation are many:

  • This is a wonderful distraction for a Tory government that couldn’t run a kid’s party at Willy Wonka’s
  • The Blairites in the Labour Party who’ve been trying to get rid of Corbyn since Day 1, have been handed a much more powerful weapon than anything they’ve tried up-to-now, and boy do they love it
  • There are a number of other groups who would rather invite Dracula over the threshold than see Corbyn enter Number Ten. The banks and the Murdoch empire are two examples

As for the Complete Idiots…sadly ‘careful thought’ is about as popular as ‘listening’, and to be fair to younger folk & millennials, this has been the case for the six decades I’ve been observing my fellow ‘talking monkeys’. In short, propaganda relies on people ‘not thinking’ – there’s a lot of it about.

Now, let’s look at some ‘nitty gritty’ – the everyday stuff. This isn’t something that only happens in the newspapers – it’s a real part of everyday thinking and discourse. Here is an example I encountered a few days ago, which will serve to illustrate the process:

Context:

A Labour supporter on Twitter made an accurate observation that the BBC’s coverage of Jeremy Corbyn is so biased that it’s painful to listen to. I will keep his identity confidential since I have no desire to embarrass him – my purpose is to demonstrate ‘false equivalence’ in action.

Secondly, I should add that the Israeli Embassy has a fearsome reputation amongst journalists for making its feelings known if Israel doesn’t get the coverage it feels it deserves. This is no secret…and it’s not new. Here is Tim Llewellyn, former Middle East correspondent for the BBC, writing in The Observer in June 2004:

The reasons for this tentative, unbalanced attitude to the central Middle East story are powerful. BBC news management is by turns schmoozed and pestered by the Israeli embassy. The pressure by this hyperactive, skilful mission and by Israel’s many influential and well organised friends is unremitting and productive, especially now that accusations of anti-Semitism can be so wildly deployed”

And here is a clip from a suppressed Al-Jazeera film, showing Israeli Embassy staff advising Labour activists about how to discredit MPs who support an end to the abuse of Palestinians:

The conversation:

Labour Supporter: Will the Media ever accept Corbyn as the leader of Lab Party, No! Listen to Justin Webb’s Masterclass in unconscious bias, in a short interview with John McDonnell he trundled out every Anti Corbyn narrative and the newest or oldest That Corbyn is like Trump

MarkGB:When ‘journalists’ at BBC interview Jeremy Corbyn, they repeat what they hear in the echo chamber of Whitehall, itself an echo of the fears of corps, banks & other ‘lobbyists’…but the thing that scares the veritable ‘crap’ out of the BBC is a call from the Israeli Embassy

Labour Supporter: You know that sounds like Paranoia and to my ears Anti-Semitic. If we are going to convince the media to give us a fair crack of the whip and balance reporting we need to be careful in our use of language

MarkGB: ‘To your ears’. There is no anti-Semitism in my tweet whatsoever. Don’t buy the conflation between criticism of Israeli government policy and anti-Semitism, or if you do, don’t try to pin it onto me. There’s none here.

As expected, he did not reply.

My comments:

So here is a guy who is so scared of being seen as anti-Semitic he does the following, albeit probably unconsciously

  1. Sacrifices truth on the altar of the need to be careful. I.E. don’t tell the truth – it gets us into trouble. It may bring me disapprova
  2. Projects his fear onto another, in this case myself, who is thus cast as the ‘anti-Semitic’ one…so that people know that he isn’t
  3. Imagines that there is the remotest possibility that the media will give Labour or Corbyn, a ‘fair crack of the whip’

There is no way that Jeremy Corbyn or the Labour Party will ever get a ‘fair crack of the whip’ on this issue. The narrative requires that Corbyn’s support for Palestinians goes away…if you are entertaining the possibility that there is any place for ‘rational argument’ or ‘objective reporting’ from or with the people driving this narrative…you are deluding yourself. This is Propaganda…this is how it’s supposed to work.

And it is working…have you noticed how the media is utterly obsessed with talking about Corbyn’s ‘anti-Semitism’…at the expense of the underlying issue he calls attention to – Israel’s abuse of the Palestinian people?

What then, is a person to do?

The solution to this is not quick, and it’s not easy. However, one action that any human being can take, is to stay alert to the meaningof words and how they are structured. If the communication is verbal, also to the body language and vocal tonalities.Pay attention to what is really being said…and also notice what is notbeing said or skirted around…and refuse to sacrifice your truth for an easier life. Do not let the false equivalence stand. As Gandalf said to the Balrog on the bridge at Khazad Dum…”You shall not pass”.

Propaganda is a thought virus. Speaking your truth is the antidote. Here is the antidote in action – the splendid Dr Norman Finkelstein, giving an impassioned reply to an audience intent on using ’emotional blackmail’ to shut him up:

Here is my personal response to this thought virus, and to anyone who tries to infect me with it:

I don’t care if you worship in a synagogue, a church, a temple, or a mosque. I don’t care if you’re black, white, yellow, brown or green. I don’t give a monkey’s what you eat for dinner & I don’t care who you sleep with…provided it’s a consenting adult. I cannot abide bullies, liars and sociopaths. Benjamin Netanyahu and the current government of Israel are war criminals…& your guilt-trip won’t work on me.

Finally, to those who are having thoughts like ‘this is all a misunderstanding’ or ‘common sense will prevail’, or ’a few concessions is enough to fix this’…it isn’t, it won’t, & it never will be…that isn’t how this works.

You cannot appease a smear campaign.

Originally published at Renegade Inc. on 10th August 2018.

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Harry Law
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Harry Law

MarkGB states that “Benjamin Netanyahu and the current government of Israel are war criminals” I would like to add that all governments of Israel left, right and centre are war criminals since they have all endorsed the settlement enterprise since 1967 in breach of article 49 paragraph 6 of the 1949 Geneva conventions and the 2001 ICC Act UK, confirmed in the International Court of Justice [world court] opinion in the ‘wall case in 2004, that the transfer of civilians by the occupant into occupied territory are grave war crimes. Incidentally the Jewish Labour Movement [JLM] is also affiliated to… Read more »

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Harry Law

After finishing my comment below I discovered this new and must read article by Johnathon Cook [ex Guardian] ‘Corbyn smeared as an Anti-Semite, for a reason’. “But beyond Corbyn’s personal fate, the Labour party has now reached a critical juncture in its response to the smear campaign. In adopting the full IHRA definition, the party will jettison the principle of free speech and curtail critical debate about an entire country, Israel – as well as a key foreign policy issue for those concerned about the direction the Middle East is taking. Discussion of what kind of state Israel is, what… Read more »

A Benge
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A Benge

From today’s Guardian,

‘Jim Sheridan, MP for Paisley and Renfrewshire North until 2015,
was suspended after apparently writing in a Facebook post that
has since been removed: “For all my adult life I have had the utmost
respect and empathy for the Jewish community and their historic suffering.
No longer, due to what they and their Blairite plotters are doing to my party
and the long-suffering people of Britain who need a radical Labour government.”’

You’re not allowed to tell the truth.
The truth is anti-semitic.
Jesus!
Nearly every comment in the last few days in the Indy would get
its author chucked out of the party.

binra
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I see it as the ‘conditioning’ of the underclass to slave status. At the moment only people in any sphere of influence (or coming into such a position) are made example of. The same operates in certain other spheres of imposed dominance masking as a call for sympathy and protection. It doesn’t matter if the ‘science’ is fraudulent or doctored, the agenda is protected against communication. Only the elites are to be allowed to participate in decisions of any import and only those who are owned and turned to serve the agenda can be accepted into the inner circles of… Read more »

George
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George

I’d say this is a risky turning point for the elite bully boys. If indeed the Labour party adopt the full definition of anti-Semitism then it will mean the end of the illusion that they are “Britain’s largest, supposedly progressive party” – in which case the necessary illusion that Britain has a representative democracy will finally bite the dust for good. This may very well result in “sterner measures” i.e. all-out police state measures.

A Benge
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A Benge

‘This may very well result in “sterner measures” i.e. all-out police state measures’

It will be a criminal act to lose empathy for people who are intent
on deliberately doing you, and your country, harm.

binra
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Inducing the ‘Stockholm syndrome’.

I suggest MUCH more conscious attention the to the word and witness we give, because the inquisitor seeks only one scrap of legitimately attackable reaction to put the full force of its false accusation in the framing of something that ‘proves’ the guilt and ‘justifies’ the punishment.

If giving vent to hate is the mindset of that which we profess to withdraw support and allegiance from, then we have to see the baiting or phishing for hate reaction as the means by which it works us even while we believe we are opposing it.

Harry Law
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Harry Law

It would appear the ‘full’ IRHA definition is set to be accepted by the NEC because Len McCluskey of Unite has joined other leading Trades Unionists in wanting to put this row “behind us”. How wrong can they be? First of all others have said there must be caveats added to the examples, how is it possible to add a caveat to the FACT that Israel is a racist state, like being pregnant [either you are or you are not]. If the definition with examples is accepted in full then Corbyn and many members of the Labour party will be… Read more »

George
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George

It seems to me that this anti-Semitism narrative may be in danger of backfiring. On Sky News Hodges spoke of her “ordeal” while waiting to see if there was going to be disciplinary action regarding her foul mouthed attack on Corbyn. Of course there wasn’t but Hodges had the jaw-dropping gall to compare her “suspenseful waiting” with how Jews felt in Nazi Germany (!!??) I fail to see how such crass idiotic propaganda could ever become substantial group-think.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Hysteria, real or feigned, is a favourite Zionazi intimidation technique. Remember Moshe Dayan’s ‘rabid dog’?

Harry Law
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Harry Law

One of the IHRA examples of anti-semitism is…”Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis”. But what if one was to say the shooting dead of over 150 non violent protesters and injuring up to 10,000 of those protesters could be seen as something the nazi’s would have done, and was not this the policy of the Israeli state when instructing the snipers to kill those approaching the barriers? The Sharpeville massacre [in South Africa] killed 69 and injured 180 this was a turning point in South Africa’s history. Because the new Israeli state law is so… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Just tick off the similarities to the Nazis, and other racist terror states. Extreme racist supremacism as the basis of the State ideology. Check. Territorial aggression and expansionism. Check. Contempt for International Law. Check. Desire to seize ‘lebensraum’. Check. Brutal oppression of the captive populations in illegally occupied territories, with massacres like Lidice, Oradur, Gaza and Sabra and Shatilla. Check. Claim to land based on theories of ‘Blood and Earth’. Check. The differences are still large, if diminishing. No extermination camps. Just internment cum ghetto imprisonment. But with some voices in Israel calling either for mass, forced, expulsion, with inevitable… Read more »

Harry Law
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Harry Law

Here is a letter I sent to Seumas Milne on 04-08-2018. No answer so far. Mr Seumas Milne, Director of Strategy and Communications, Harry Law, Labour Party Head Office, Address……. 105 Victoria Street, Westminster, London SW1E. 04-08-2018. Dear Mr Seumas Milne. With reference to the debate now taking place within the Labour Party, can I offer these opinions; the first is a testimony by the author of the IHRA definitions to the US Congress, and second by comparing similar racial disputes, I offer an analogy between the new Israeli [basic] ‘State Law’ and a comparison with hypothetical racist state laws… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

The Labour invertebrates are caving into Zionazi thuggery over these shameful IHRA diktats, on the basis of ‘putting it behind us’. Are they effing insane? Like the Palestinians, NOTHING they do, no craven surrender, no retreat, no groveling prostration, will EVER stop the Zionazi lynch-mob from returning for MORE. More groveling, more boot-licking, more worship, but never, ever, enough. The filthy fabrication of the Tunis wreath controversy, where Corbyn was commemorating the victims of Zionazi regime murderous terrorism, and that was totally inverted into yet another attack on the terrorist Zionazis themselves, shews YET AGAIN, that NOTHING but Corbyn’s destruction,… Read more »

mark
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mark

The anti semitic smear campaign against Corbyn serves several important linked objectives. For that reason it will not stop, it will only intensify. No appeasement, no sacrificial lambs, like Ken Livingstone and Marc Wadsworth, will bring it to an end. Nothing will ever be enough for those behind it. It is a device to divert attention from the very real war crimes and atrocities that are now being committed on a daily basis in Palestine. 15-16,000 unarmed demonstrators, including children, old people, disabled people and medical personnel, have been gunned down in Gaza by Zionist kiddie killers using dum dum… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Excellent, excellent, comment Mark. The International neo-liberal system is dead, but still staggering on like a zombie, as ‘Free Market’ capitalism implodes under debt and obscene and still growing inequality. Concomitant and synergistic is the rapidly worsening ecological Holocaust caused by capitalist neoplasia. And adding to the brew, we have a geo-political crisis where the Thanatopian Reich is lashing out at all states that refuse to be cowed into vassal status, forever. That the USA is still run by psychopaths so deranged that they really believe that God has given them a Manifest Destiny because of their ‘Exceptionalism’ to dictate… Read more »

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Harry Stotle

“It’s difficult to see how this will end” – it will end just like the US where democracy has been bought and the only electoral choice on offer is the flavour of swivel-eyed neoconservatism. Corbyn, despite certain failings, is the only politician in the last 40 years to offer any sort of alternative – because of the existential threat he poses to Britain’s fat cats media attacks against him have been relentless and since they have been unable to bring him down over his actual policies they have instead resorted to orchestrating a variety of smears against him. One minute… Read more »

Francis Lee
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Francis Lee

It looks very much like the Labour Party and Corbyn are throwing in the towel and the zionists have won this time around. They doesn’t surprise me given the spineless nature of social-democratic, centre-left parties throughout Europem yesterday and today. To use a phrase from the leader of the Italian Socialist Party who, when faced with Mussolini, Comrade Turati offered the famous axiom. ”We must have the courage to be cowards.”

We can expect no other reaction from invertebrate social-democrats, it is part of their DNA, as history has amply demonstrated.

rtj1211
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rtj1211

There is one simple test for the ‘any criticism of Israel is anti-semitic’ brigade: live your life under the conditions Palestinians must live under.

What a great thought: a Gaza strip for new Labour and UK-based zionists…..

I guarantee you they will be fulminating and launching tirades within six weeks….

Bothfeetontheground
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Bothfeetontheground
PeaceCora
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PeaceCora

It comes to something when Margaret Thatcher comes out looking reasonable!

mog
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Wondering if the Corbyn team played the Tunisia story with some strategy, delaying the release of evidence that proved its falsity until after Netenyahu broke cover with his attack.
If so, it has revealed clearly the battle lines and the media’s alliances to the wider public.

A Benge
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A Benge

I don’t think it was planned.
Unfortunately; mud sticks, and the witch hunters never
let go of the mud.
The lynch mob are sadists and they’re really enjoying
themselves. Read Dan Hodges’s tweets. He’s getting
his rocks off joining in the torture. I think it makes him happy,
It’s really sick!

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Of course it was planned. The Zionazis would have teams, in the UK and the apartheid state itself, working overtime to retrace every move Corbyn has made over decades, to view every picture, every video, every utterance, looking for material that can be twisted and contorted to shew ‘antisemitism’, the new Supreme and Universal Crime. Destroying Corbyn, one of the last Western politicians not TOTALLY controlled by the Zionazis and who has dared treat the Palestinians as human beings, is an absolute priority for the Zionazi regime and all its Fifth Columns of sayanim and Sabbat Goy stooges.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

The sheer arrogance and sadism of the Zionazis as they inflict UNENDING suffering on the Palestinians, and the bizarre narcissism of their demands that they be WORSHIPED for it, have been there for all to see, for the seventy years of the ongoing Nakbah.

Bothfeetontheground
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Bothfeetontheground

The more the attack dogs throw and become unstuck with baseless accusations, the less the general public will listen to their ravings. This whole approach of smear and muck-racking Corbyn may well blow-up in their faces come election time.

A Benge
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A Benge

They keep repeating the lies even after they’ve been exposed.

binra
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Addiction is the compulsive subjection to any means of NOT LOOKING at what is more fearful that any such strategy of denial and evasion. War upon reality is both absurd and tragic – for the investment of identity in a lie ‘protects’ itself from the true as the very basis of its ‘survival’. Note I did not address ‘persons’ but rather, the need for war as the ‘survival’ or persistence of a separate sense of both victimhood and vengeance. The extreme example illustrates the principle in unequivocal terms. The principle is applicable to all forms of separative intent to define,… Read more »

mog
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Satyagraha?
or,
‘The harder they come….’

Harry Stotle
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Harry Stotle

If you want to know what any threat to Britain’s banking, or corporate kleptocracy looks like, then look no further than the treatment of Jeremy Corbyn – i.e. any politician who fails to grasp, or accept what is expected of them, which nowadays consists of little more than acting as proxies for the financial establishment and various lobby groups who really control things. Any existential threat to these arrangements was bound to see the media whipped into a frenzy with orchestrated smear campaigns against those threatening the natural order (which has only consolidated itself over the last 40 years). Needless… Read more »

comite espartaco
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(@ Jim Scott) Al Jazeera is an Islamist and immigrationist fake news outlet. During the Egyptian demonstrations, Al Jazeera was at the forefront of support for the Muslim Brotherhood, with their journalists acting in blatant disregard for objective reporting. During the ‘fakefugees’ assaults of women in Hamburg, Al Jazeera did try to hide the news, etc… Those who support unconditionally the actions of Islamist groups in Palestine, like the recent ‘protests’ at the border with Israel, that took the lives of dozens of unarmed people unnecessarily and for propaganda reasons, should understand that they support, in many cases, suicidal actions… Read more »

mark
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mark

“The actions of Islamist groups” did not take the lives of scores of unarmed people.
It was the actions of IDF kiddie killers with dum dum bullets from British supplied sniper rifles.

mark
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mark

Typical Zionist ploy – blame the victims.
Just like Nazi propaganda – look at what those terrible Jews have made us do to them.

Maggie
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A Benge
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A Benge

I think they’re ALL on today’s Freedland’s Guardian piece.
So many vile opinions.

PeaceCora
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PeaceCora

You’re brave! I find even the Guardian highly toxic these days.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

You’re a PARTICULARLY filthy Zionazi racist, but at least you are shewing your real spots more and more clearly.

comite espartaco
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(@ JJ139) The Palestinian conflict is a historical process and therefore it is subject to a continuos evolution and change and, for that very reason, its perceptions and dynamics are in constant transformation. Today’s main actors in the Palestinian resistance movement, for instance, are Islamic groups with religious aims and methods, very different from the secular organisations and parties of the past. This change and generational relay can even be noticed in stylistic changes of appearance. In the past, the Palestinian ‘revolutionary’ fighters used to visit Communist and Socialist parties around the world with their olive green military fatigues, indicating… Read more »

mark
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mark

The main Islamic resistance movement is Hamas. Hamas was actually created by the Zionist Regime as part of a classic colonial divide and rule strategy to undermine Arafat’s organisation. The Zionist Regime gave it money AND GUNS. Hamas is the elected government of the Palestinian people. There was an election and they won. It’s something called democracy, apparently.

The US, UK, etc. have frequently done the same – use Islamist terror groups like Al Qaida/ ISIS/ MEK to attack any countries they dislike – Russia, China, Iran, Libya, Syria. This always blows up in their faces – literally.

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Martin Usher

I recall that Hamas first became a force after the 2006 PLA election when it won a majority. The Israelis responded by arresting the West Bank’s Hamas representatives, over 50 of them, but couldn’t get at those in Gaza. The resulting reinterpretation of this incident puts a very different spin on it so might be classed as a very successful propaganda campaign. The reality as I recall was that Hamas was proving to be a very successful, organized, political force among the Palestinians — which is why it had such a strong showing in those elections — which would have… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

That’s an old Zionazi tactic. Do something vile, like arresting (and no doubt torturing)all the elected Hamas representatives, shewing your dedication to ‘democracy’, and get your stooge, Dahlan, (who delivered the Po 210 that poisoned Arafat)to attempt to take-over Gaza. Keep your big stooge, Abbas, in power INDEFINITELY in the West Bank ghetto, then lie and lie and lie some more about events. Hamas ‘seized power in Gaza’, election results down the Memory Hole. And the manner in which all the Sabbat Goy and sayanim vermin in the Western fakestream media stick to the new Zionazi version of history, would… Read more »

JJ139
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JJ139

TL:DR you are clearly a troll with an agenda simply to write long and nonsensical apologia for the powers that be. On your bike.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

It’s a Zionazi posing as a ‘revolutionary’. Must be a new hasbara stream.

vexarb
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Mulga, it’s the old Soros / Rothschild / Guardian “take over from the Left”. Why do you think the campaign organizers and followers of Killary called themselves “Leftists”? Why do you think French Rothschild family bought up La Liberation and a satirical magazine, so the Left could put upthe slogan, We are all Charlies now.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

To the ‘Left’ of Genghis Khan-possibly.

comite espartaco
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(Wally Willager) In spite of the first impressions and the cultivated propaganda that portrays a decisive leadership, it is not true that Blair had the ruthlessness and nerve of his convictions. That is why he had to lie to manipulate the British people towards the oligarchic aims of his policies. Blair was a fake, from head to toe, as New Labour was and could not be otherwise and people took it lock, stock and barrel… a few times in a row. In many ways, Mr Corbyn is showing a similar nature, as the preposterous explanations of his political blunders clearly… Read more »

WallyWillager
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WallyWillager

Comite – that is a blunderbuss of a retort to my observation on the neocon/lib nwo creation that was nulabInc and it’s festering minions. Dissing JC and his consistent opinions over his political career and equating it with these treasonous charlatans who served and continue to, the global robber baron elites and their security apparatus while climbing up the greasy poles of power and wealth, is a calumny, as even the latest attack falls apart – where are the Munich attackers buried? You sound like you are panicking. Here have a friendly cartoon to help you sleep. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2018/aug/14/steve-bell-on-jeremy-corbyn-row-with-benjamin-netanyahu-cartoon The great… Read more »

PJ
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PJ

Paid trolls don’t listen to reason. They don’t get paid if they do so and can therefore never be reasoned with. Focus on the people around you to make sure their minds don’t get poisoned by their lies.

Jim Scott
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Jim Scott

Perhaps you never watched the Al Jazeera expose of the Israeli Governments apalling interference in British politics and the smearing of anyone who raised questions about the illegal and vicious treatment of the Palestinians or who support the disinvestment campaign.
Or how the London Israeli Consulate plotted to bring down Corbyn by faked propaganda funded by a foreign/US AIPAC
Can you swear with your hand on the Torah that you are not another Israeli Government propogandist or shill?
Do you support the slaughter of Palestinians by Israel?

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Yes it does, Jim. Just look at it’s comment above re. the cold-blooded murder of Gazans by Zionazi snipers. According to this creature the lives were taken unnecessarily by the protests, not his Zionazi friends’ bullets.

Michael McNulty
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Michael McNulty

It’s the same excuse used by the Nazis when they shot people in revenge for an action by a resistance movement. They said don’t blame us for the murders, blame the resistance.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Gaza is an unending Lidice, repeated over and over again, plus added arrogance and a narcissistic demand to be worshiped that not even the original Nazis possessed.

JJ139
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JJ139

“The Palestinian crisis in Labour is the result of those flawed ideologies, that have taken the Palestinian Cause as a pet project to further and promote immigrationist policies and hide, under the natural sympathy that the Palestinian Cause evokes, the incongruence of Islamic immigration in Western democracies and the inevitable conflicts and ravages derived from it. Palestine, in the hands of minoritymongers, is a justification for the terror that accompanies the immigrationist policies of the elites.” The Palestine problem officially started 70 years ago with the stealing of Palestinian land and ethnic cleansing of the local population. It unofficially started… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

It’s pure hasbara hatred of Moslems, Arabs and the Palestinians in particular, however.

WallyWillager
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WallyWillager

The mealy mouthed piss poor rag asked for what Labour supporters thought?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/02/what-do-labour-party-supporters-think-of-the-partys-performance

Well am i the only one waiting to get their report? Maybe when hell freezes over? Over Freedlands dusty old bones?

“Your responses will ONLY be seen by the Guardian and we will feature SOME of them in our reporting.”
(My emphasis)

They want to CHERRYPICK & CENSOR while hoping to pick up some ammo – Orwell would be proud of how they are following the formula.

tutisicecream
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George Galloway’s column worth reading in conjunction with this. https://www.rt.com/op-ed/435860-corbyn-media-israel-british/ I’ll quote some useful info from the end: “The BBC radio flagship program “Today” has lost one million listeners in one year. The BBC flagship television program “Newsnight” has lost half its audience. The Persecutor-in-Chief, the Daily Mail –whose founder was a personal friend of Adolf Hitler – has lost 12% of its readership in the last year. The Russophobia Times of London has lost 6.6% from a very low base. The ‘liberal’ Guardian newspaper, which daily plumbs new journalistic depths, has sunk by an unlikely 13%. And the Daily… Read more »

Thomas Peterson
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Thomas Peterson

The Guardian used to be worth visiting for the lively and informative comments section. That’s basically gone now.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

The Fraudian attracts, and allows, an awful lot of hard Right arse-holes these days, in its Comments.

Jen
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Jen

Maybe that 13% that Galloway is a typographical error and it should have read 31%?

🙂

tutisicecream
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Clearly George Galloway does’t believe their stats…”an unlikely 13%”.

I think we might reasonably assume that based on their journalistic inaccuracies and out and out dammed lies we may not be dealing with facts here.

Jerry Alatalo
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Making the ridiculous allegation that Jeremy Corbin is anti-Semitic is like calling Jeremy Corbyn a reptilian Annunaki alien. The power elite is getting more and more desperate, the Browder-Magnitsky scandal is on the verge of exploding, and one can only hope/pray the power-mad criminal warmongers don’t choose big mistake #3.

comite espartaco
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One of the problems with Mr Corbyn and their supporters is that, in the Palestinian Cause, they have taken more than they can chew. It is too big a problem for ‘amateur’ and ignorant politicians (let alone for loony leftists), that get involved in these things through flag waving and minoritymongering politics, with no sense of proportion and critical restrain, as they are carried away by propaganda images and sentimentality. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a brutal affair on both sides and requires some ruthlessness and nerve on behalf of those who want to get involved in it. Otherwise, anyone risks… Read more »

A Benge
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A Benge

Please go away. This is a much needed sanctuary from malevolance
towards those who are serious about making the world better.

WallyWillager
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WallyWillager

Comite, i’ll bite, you make some points. Possibly the truest being about ‘both sides’ It is good you admit there are at least two sides – many ‘zionists’ wouldn’t even deem to recognise that. As for ‘ruthlessness and nerve’ ( aside – Ruth? And the eponymous word – lol) Yeah we had one Tony Blair who back in his warlording pomp had both, ignored the instinctive plea of millions who took to the streets to demanf that he ‘hold the horses’ , he lied and lied and promised a ‘Road Map’ – as far as i know it was never… Read more »

mog
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What are you even doing here?

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Hasbara.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Yep-a Zionazi FOR SURE. The arrogance was a giveaway, as was the contempt for the ‘lesser’ races, but this stinking moral equivalence between the imprisoned, defenceless and brutalised Palestinians and the racist monsters oppressing them really rounds out the picture. And what is ‘dubious’, Bibi, about commemorating the victims of Zionazi murderousness?

Jen
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Jen

I wonder if Jeremy Corbyn would have done better to split British Labour and thrown out the Blairite parliamentary faction. Would the party’s popularity then have risen with the electorate and encouraged more people to join?

Sometimes I think Corbyn’s major failing as a leader is that he’s not bloody-minded enough. He needs a personality of, er, Stalinist proportions to get rid of people like Margaret Hodges intent on sabotaging his leadership, his program and British Labour generally.

https://labourlist.org/2018/07/build-it-in-britain-again-corbyns-full-speech/

pimattersc
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I understand your frustration Jen, but its a long battle and emotional retaliation is exactly how the media win. They are literally taunting Corbyn to ‘out’ him. The problem for them is the more they taunt him through their own medium, the more the internet medium gets behind him. All we have to do is keep relatively quiet, and impassioned and come the next election, the excellent team we have behind the party who are even now working on the strategy, with the power of numbers behind them and WE WILL WIN.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

And then the Blairite Sabbat Goyim will defect, en masse, and form a coalition with the Lib Dems and Tories. If you go to an election with the Blairite vermin in situ, and with Lansman running Momentum (he’ll join the defectors for certain) no matter how big you win-you’ll lose.

Terje M
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The problem with a split would be that the right wing in Labour would form their own, nominally left-wing, party, which would be hellbent on sabotaging Corbyn’s chances of getting into power. The PTB would give this mini-party plenty of coverage and tacit support, making it possible that it would hold the parliamentary balance. Of course, extreme sabotage is what the Labour right wing is doing at the moment, so you have a point. Creating nominally left-wing parties to split the left vote was a favorite tactic during the Cold War. The Australian Labor Party struggled with this problem for… Read more »

Jen
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Jen

Yes that is true, the ALP was weakened for a long time due to the DLP split. The circumstances were different though: Robert Menzies was a popular leader at the time, though maybe not quite as popular then in the 1950s and 60s as people these days seem to think. From what I understand, he was skilled at exploiting Australian fears about Communism, Indonesia with its population and poverty, the Indonesian President Sukarno at the time, or some combination of the three. In those days also, the ALP depended a great deal on the Irish Catholic vote and the DLP… Read more »

Jen
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Jen

I should have said that Menzies (Liberal – National Coalition: politically conservative) was the Prime Minister of Australia at the time.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

The Blairite Sabbat Goy scum are going to split after the election in any case. Corbyn WILL NEVER be allowed to become PM. Full stop. The Zionazis will liquidate him physically, a field in which they are world leaders, if necessary.

Terje M
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Yes, Corbyn certainly has many enemies. I remember ‘anonymous very high ranking army officers’ talked to The Daily Telegraph last year, saying they would begin a coup if Corbyn ever came to power.

JudyJ
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JudyJ

Speaks volumes about the attitude of the PTB to the democratic process.

PJ
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PJ

A ‘democratic process’ that picks and chooses what can and cannot be held open for discussion is by no means a democratic process, never has been and never will be.

binra
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I always take the pattern of control of communication and locate it in myself – not myself exclusively – but recognize that I also have the same liability to misperceive and misidentify and thus reinforce a sense of distrust, a defensive posture of conflict and the use of narrative as self-reinforcement or ammo to undermine the ‘enemy’ or threat. To the belief that coercive power protects it is associated with freedom rather than the slavery it is. And to that mistaken identity, the freedom of the true will is fearful (lack of control) and is thus deeply threatening and thus… Read more »