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UPDATED: Skripal Case: Gaping Holes in New Narrative

The article was amended 6/9/18 to correct a factual error – it originally asserted that the perfume bottle had been discovered in Amesbury, that was a mistake. Although Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess reside in Amesbury, Rowley is alleged to have found the perfume during a shopping trip to Salisbury.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) named their suspects in the poisoning of Sergei Skripal et al. today. The two men – named as Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov – entered the country on legal VISAs but are alleged to be travelling under aliases. The CPS has charged the men with a laundry list of offenses, but not applied to Russia for extradition as it is forbidden, by the Russian Constitution, for the Russian federation to extradite a citizen.

These are the new facts, but like all the previous announcements in this bizarre odyssey, they present more questions than answers.

1. Why did two alleged GRU agents travel under false names and fake passports, but still use Russian names and Russian passports?
If they had used EU passports – say from Lithuania or Estonia for example – they wouldn’t have needed a visa, thanks to EU freedom of movement agreements, and could still have spoken Russian without raising suspicion.

2. Was the novichok gel or liquid? We’ve never been given clear information on the actual poison – how deadly it is, how it’s made, where it was applied, how long it takes to work – all of these are complete unknowns. What sparse information we HAVE been given is contradicted by today’s announcements.

We were told previously that the novichok allegedly used on the Skripal’s was in “gel form” and “smeared” on the front door. Whereas the poison that Rowley and Sturgess later came in contact with was in a perfume bottle, and therefore a liquid capable of being atomised. These were never referenced as the same thing, until today.

Speaking to the BBC, Scotland Yard’s Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu claimed:

the manner in which the bottle and packaging has been adapted makes it a perfect cover for smuggling the weapon into the country, and a perfect delivery method for the attack against the Skripal’s front door”.

So was the poison sprayed on, or smeared on? Do they have any idea? Which brings us to the next question…

3. How did they re-seal the perfume bottle? Assuming that Basu is right, and the perfume bottle WAS used to attack the Skripal’s front door, how did they re-seal it afterwards? Rowley has always been very sure the bottle of perfume was in a sealed box and wrapped in cellophane – here’s a link, with a screencap below just in case it gets memory holed.

The police themselves don’t seem to sure on this point, Basu said:

We don’t yet know where the suspects disposed of the Novichok they used to attack the door, where Dawn and Charlie got the bottle that poisoned them, or if it is the same bottle used in both poisonings.”

We DO know where Dawn and Charlie got the bottle that poisoned them, Charlie said he took it from a charity donation bin Catherine Road in Salisbury on June 27th.

So maybe they didn’t re-seal the bottle, they just brought another one.

So did the suspects bring TWO (identical?) bottles of poison with them? Did they use one and leave the other one in a charity donation box? Why would they do that? We are told the suspects left the country after the attack on the Skripals on March 4th, so they must have dumped the “perfume” the same day? Is there CCTV footage of the “suspects” on Catherine Road that day? If not, how did it wind up there? And how did it sit undisturbed in a charity bin for nearly 3 months?

4. Why did no one at their hotel get sick? The police have claimed that the hotel the two men stayed at was “contaminated with novichok”, and yet no one has reported and symptoms at all.

How can a hotel room be “contaminated” with novichok? Novichok is not radioactive, it is a nerve agent. To contaminate the room the suspects would have to physically apply the poison to it, and since they allegedly left country on March 4th – the same days as the alleged attack – the contamination must have happened BEFORE Sergei Skripal was poisoned. How? The police are telling us the suspects must have opened their bottle of “deadliest poison ever” the day before they needed it AND in their own hotel room. Why would they do that?

We’re told that novichok is especially potent (deadlier than VX, which can kill in doses of 10mg or less) and does not degrade, and despite 2 months passing between the attack and police searching the hotel, not one single person was affected. Why not?

As usual with the Skripal Case, more questions than answers.

UPDATE:

5. What is wrong with the CCTV? Further questions have been raised regarding the released “evidence” of CCTV captures. Namely that 2 separate stills, of two separate men, from the same CCTV camera display the exact same time, down to the second:

This calls into question the reliability of all the photographic/video evidence. MoonofAlabama has an excellent write-up on this issue here, as does Craig Murray, who has done great work on this case.

6. So what is the new timeline? The Police narrative puts our two “suspects” arriving in Salisbury at 11.48am, but the Skripal’s left their home ay 9.15 that morning, so Borishov and Petrov were far too late to “smear” novichok on the front door. The two suspects then, supposedly, left Salisbury for London at 1.50pm, over two hours BEFORE the Skripals were taken ill on that park bench. So what is the timeline?

Novichok, and all nerve agents, work extremely fast (they are designed to). People usually experience symptoms within seconds of exposure. This does not fit with our supposed suspects leaving hours before Sergei and Julia were sick. The speed of nerve agents taking effect has never fit this narrative, but the open-ended nature of the window meant the police could always, eventually, change tack and claim the Skripals were attacked as they sat on the bench. This announcement cements the UK government to a timeline that is almost impossible to reconcile with both their previous statements and common sense.


Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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Paul X
Paul X

It will probably be a 100 years + before we get to see the forensic examination of various phones including those of the Skripals. Did they remove their batteries for the 4 hours when their phones were ‘switched off’? Did the ‘agents’ have phones? Phone records can be illuminating in any investigation and I imagine even more so here.

Paul X
Paul X

My point is phones can still be tracked when simply turned off. Criminals say you must remove the batteries but doing that in itself suggests a guilty mind; in this case a fear of surveillance; why would that be? Who did they fear? Were the phones really switched off or is that an invention to avoid saying where they went during those 4 hours?
Still unexplained is how the ‘agents’ arrived at around noon to smear the door handle but there is nothing to suggest the Skripals went back to the house after 12 noon. This is the trouble with stories created in panic; the contradictions mount.

WeatherEye

No doubt the steeple are uncritically swallowing this “proof” of Putin’s (as opposed to Mother Theresa’s) guilt. For a nation braying constantly into computer pockets, we are pathetic. Thank God for ‘fake news’ sites like this that keep journalism alive.

Jen
Jen

Latest news is that decontamination of the Skripal house has begun.

But how, where and when did Wiltshire Council officers consult with and obtain permission from the Skripals to start the work?

https://www.spirefm.co.uk/news/local-news/2679075/skripals-consulted-over-salisbury-house-decontamination/

And shouldn’t the neighbours have been advised to leave or even be evacuated for health and safety reasons, rather than be given a choice of whether to stay or to leave?

vexarb

“How the Brits soiled their pants in the Skripals case” by Russian humorist Ruslan Ostashko, Translated and subtitled by Scott Humor, Vineyard of the Saker,
September 07, 2018

https://thesaker.is/how-the-brits-soiled-their-pants-in-the-skripals-case-by-ruslan-ostashko/

Ruslan Ostashko is a good humorist but finds himself outclassed by the long running British farce, renovated with fresh characters at Whitehall Theatre of the Absurd.

thorella

Thus is what I think happened in the Skripal poisoning.

After his wife’s and son’s death Skripal became very lonely and isolated in the UK. He wanted to go home. His mother was elderly and not in good health. His daughter was in Russia.

So he made contact with the Russian government but he had to offer something valuable to the Russian government for his repatriation. Negotiations had to done through his daughter as obviously everything else would be monitored. Most probably he offered information on the dodgy dossier which he had helped compile and which had been commissioned by the UK government/Establishment to damage the chances of Trump in the election. Any evidence of this would have been dynamite for the Russian government.

However, his daughter would have most definitely been under intense surveillance in the UK so taking physical documents would have been impossible. So I suspect the role of the two guys in Salisbury was to check Skripal had the evidence he said he had.

According to news reports on 3 March the Skripals left home early in the morning with their phones switched off possibly to avoid being located. During that period Julia may have had an MI5/MI6 proof phone and was in contact with the two guys as they travelled to Salisbury, who they met sometime after their arrival..

Aware that something was odd was going on MI5/MI6 contacted Skripal once the phones were switched to tell him that they needed to meet at around 4pm in the park. This may well have been why Skripal was so worried and anxious in the restaurant. The couple filmed near the park carrying a red bag, may have poisoned him with fentanyl as it was necessary for MI5/MI6 to put Skripal out of action as soon as possible to stop the role of the UK government/Establishment in the dossier being revealed. Trump might very well have cut off relations with the UK. To put all this behind them the UK government invited Trump for a state visit.

Any holes?

Paul X
Paul X

I don’t see the two men bringing documents but agree JULIA was key; after all they had arrived just the day before her. I imagine she had the conditions attached to his return to see his mother or stay for the last few years of his life. It would involve de briefing of course. Travelling all over Europe is likely to have involved a bit more than spinning old yarns about how he sold his ex-mates to the British. You can’t conjure up many after dinner jokes on the back of rank betrayal. Julia’s contacts with the Russian secret services via her boyfriend and his mother is well established. She was the message bringer. It seems her father was upset by lunch time but was that because of the conditions (like ‘I give back the money’ would be hard for him to stomach). So maybe there was another message that irked him; flat refusal from MI6 to allow him to go. If he was involved in the Urination Dossier then he’d very probably spill the beans; it’s a draw back when employing double agents, they can turn and turn again. So incapacitate was the order of the day; who knows his plan might have been to go home immediately, with Julia. With the pair safely in hospital the idea to say it was Russians using a nerve agent was put forward. It’s unraveled as such strikingly imaginative Spook’s ideas tend to. It would be horrible to think the woman Dawn died to “prove” that there really was a deadly nerve agent around but once you start digging a pit then it’s sometimes hard to stop. Meanwhile it forms a nice backdrop to the coming effort to persuade Trump to go in big time in Syria when the expected Chemical weapon is exploded.

flaxgirl

Love it! What about the cat and the twi guinea pigs and Julia’s tracheostomy scar?

Paul X
Paul X

The cat and guinea pigs are an indication of the panic within the authorities as they rushed to come up with a narrative. The Spooks took over freezing the police out so the pets got abandoned. It was a prize Egyptian cat that Sergei was apparently very fond of. Presumably the guinea pigs were kept for traditional reasons – dying in toxic circumstances. They did their job, pity Sergei didn’t notice.

Allan Howard
Allan Howard

The cat(s) and the guinea pigs are alive and well and long reunited with the Skripals – which I knew anyway, as I have believed more or less from the outset that this whole saga was staged – and as reported in an article in the Sun on March 17th, in which Sergei Skripal’s vet is quoted as saying that he contacted the police as soon as he learnt it was Mr Skripal who was involved, to let them know about the pets. Plus it was also reported a few days later that investigators and forensic experts were at the house checking for any packages that Yulia may have brought with her (and in the Real World, the first thing they would have done before entering the house is check the front door handle, but we didn’t hear anything in relation to the door handle until more than three weeks later, on March 28th if I remember correctly, as if to say they’d only just thought to check it THEN and, in doing so, supposedly found Novichok on the handle).

Paul X
Paul X

So why did a government appointed or employed vet describe to the media in graphic detail how the pets had died of neglect, (no food or water) and the cat had been in “great distress”. There were sort of apologies as well. What would be the point of inventing that? The vet said the bodies had been destroyed so there was no point in seeing if any Novo was in the blood; it sounds as if they knew there wouldn’t be otherwise surely they would have looked? It seems you have no proof, just a ‘feeling’? What’s your feeling about where father and daughter are now?

Allan Howard
Allan Howard

Did you check out the Sun article I mentioned? And is it possible – as reported at the time – that they were at the house checking for packages that Yulia may have brought with her, and that they just left the animals there when they finished. In the Real World, they would have been at the house in a matter of hours after DS Nick Bailey was admitted to the hospital with the same symptoms as the Skripals.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5833121/russian-sergei-skripals-pet-cat/

Allan Howard
Allan Howard
Paul X
Paul X

In the early days there were photos of the cat, a glorious pussy. Presumably he/she is now subject to a D Notice so no photos or even a mention is allowed? But what was it’s name? He/she deserves to join the famous animals of the past caught up in double dealing and murder – like poor Rinka.

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

the cat was called Van Drake, RIP.

Paul X
Paul X

Thank you. Be good if there was a candidate in Salisbury at the next election representing Cat Lovers. Residents would have a chance to register their unhappiness with the collapsing story. Van Drake would look good on posters, much more cuddly than the Tory candidate I suspect.

Allan Howard
Allan Howard

The pets are all alive and well and long reunited with the Skripals:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5833121/russian-sergei-skripals-pet-cat/

Allan Howard
Allan Howard

In the Real World, the investigators and forensic experts would have been at the house in a matter of hours after it was determined that the Skripals and DS Nick Bailey had been poisoned with a nerve agent, and any other scenario is inconceivable, but here’s an article dated March 8th that has them in the house:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/russian-spy-nerve-agent-plot-police-officer-talking-to-investigators-in-hospital-as-sergei-skripal-a3784531.html

thorella

Yes, it is horrible to think MI5/MI6 got rid of Dawn to reinforce their narrative but they’ll do anything to preserve the power of the Establishment

bill
bill

horrible but certainly likely……this is why something new must now be discovered to show how the Skripals got contaminated from their doorknob well after 11.48 before the Weds debate cus even a Jon Baron like backbench Tory might pick this one up ….otherwise May could be left with Novichok all over her mask

Norfolk Eagle
Norfolk Eagle

The chemical brothers tour of Salisbury, a recap.
Saturday 3rd our intrepid assassins do a recce. We don’t know when they arrived or where they went, good spycraft there but we do know when they left as they conveniently posed for a picture at Salisbury station.
Sunday 4th, the big day. We have a picture of them arriving and then, really fortuitously, a date stamped picture outside the petrol station on Wilton Road. (personally I think the shadows are not right). Maybe the spycraft on the recce wasn’t so good. To get this far they managed to avoid the cctv camera at the juction of S. Western Road and Fisherton Street, just down from the station and the camera on St Pauls roundabout. They should have used Google maps, this would have directed them via the A360 and not Wilton Road.
A quick bit of daubing/spraying of the most deadly nerve agent known to man and they were off. Back to the station, of course not. Lets go sightseeing in Salisbury. A very quick 30min hike into the town centre passed all the cameras mentioned and probably a few more and they are next seen on their way back to the station on the bridge at 13.05pm. Except there are doubts on this photo too (its those pesky shadows).
Time for a bit of window shopping at the coin shop, probably the only shop in Fisherton Street with cctv, these guys are really unlucky. Why did the Daily Mail not ask about the time stamp, which contradicts the Mets timeline, and how did they get the footage so quickly?
They then hang around for 40minutes on the very street corner Sergei is going to pass on his way to lunch then back to the station and away, of course carefully missing the camera pointing up S. Western Road.
What pisses me off is that this account takes at face value the information we have been given. The Police have had 6 months to get this together and this is the best they can come up with?

Lupulco
Lupulco

I always thought HMG [of all political persuasions] was incompetent. But the way they have dealt with BREXIT and the Salisbury incident. IMHO just proves that they are incompetent.

Paul
Paul

My contribution to the discussion (also commented this at Craig Murray’s site):

Although I’m from the Netherlands this Skripal affair really intrigues me.

Right from the start the scenario that the Russian state would use a chemical weapon to murder an ex-spy on UK soil, right amidst the constant karfuffle about chemical weapons in Syria, has struck me as very very very unlikely. And that it was supposed to be done using ‘novichok’, the same agent which appeared in a recent TV spy film in the UK, just added to that. The scenario is just ‘too good’ to be true.

Putting all the info we now have together I would say that the Skripals in reality were never intoxicated with nerve agent. They were decapacitated using BZ agent (by the police officer who also suffered symptoms?) and they were then brought to hospital (initially thought to be a fentanyl intoxication). Them not being intoxicated with nerve agent is in agreement with the lack of health complaints by the medical docter who took care of the Skripals when they were outside in the Salibury park and the report by the medical docter at the Salisbury hospital emergency unit that no patients were brought in with nerve agent symptoms on that day.

The operators responsible for the set-up (secret agents) had already practiced the trick of how to insert contaminated blood samples into the investigation process in Syria (Khan Sheikhoun) and they applied this trick repeatedly in the Salibury case. (The chemists at Porton Down doing the chemical analyses may be perfectly sincere, as will be those at the designated labs used by the OPCW.) That doctered blood samples were analysed explains the fact that the concentrations of nerve agent as found in the Skripal blood samples by the OPCW were impossibly high (they could never have survived such high levels and note that these measurements date from weeks after the event). Now with the release of the pictures of the two supposed culprits we see that the plot included laying out this video trail of the “GRU-men”. Remarkable how strongly these guys were attracted to the street video camera’s of Salisbury! Notice how at Salisbury train station they stand still waiting for the video camera to catch them. They may be patsies or they may have done this trip with full knowledge. For the secret agents behind the whole thing it surely is no problem finding some suitable guys who were willing to do this trip from Moscow to London and then on to Salisbury. Contacts with this or that oligarch or some other secret service (Ukranian?) would be enough. The fact that the UK authorities refuse to supply their Russian counterparts with the finger prints of the two indicates that they do not want them identified.

The mismatch in the police timeline between the time of arrival of the two men in Salisbury and the time when the novichok supposedly was applied to the door knob makes clear the UK police is still not there as to a consistent version of the (mostly fictional) events.

Anyway, this is what I make of it at this stage. Best,Paul

Mikael Kallavuo
Mikael Kallavuo

”The UK must provide fingerprints of the suspects in the Skripal case to Interpol, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova stated on Wednesday on the Rossiya-1 channel.
“We should start the conversation with facts, that is, with fingerprints. If according to the British side, these people have come from Russia, they must have received British visas, so, please, “fingers at the table”. Because none of us can work without Interpol here,” the diplomat stressed.
Earlier, she stated that British Ambassador to Moscow Laurie Bristow declined to provide the fingerprints to the Russian Foreign Ministry.” (TASS, September 5.)

http://tass.com/politics/1020148

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

What valid reason could there be not to give the fingerprints to the Russians?

JudyJ
JudyJ

Nothing but playground mentality as initiated by Johnson and Gavin Williamson in particular … aka ‘ the go away and shut up’ syndrome. Stamps foot (picture the Haribo advert if you live in the UK) “No, I’m never, never going to talk to them again…ever”.
To answer your question, Thomas, there is no valid reason. My view is that someone in the UN really needs to give the UK an order to provide everyone – and not just Russia – will all the ‘evidence’ they keep claiming is being kept under wraps for security reasons. But presumably such an edict would be subject to a vote which the UK would of course veto …for security reasons. It really does seem to be an impasse.

Alexander
Alexander

Of course it is a joke.

But the right question is: why now?

There is a general parliamentary debate about the Skripal affair next Wednesday – i.e. horrid Russia = chemical weapons.

There has been plenty written about a false flag planned by the British in Idlib to coincide with the likely Syrian attack there. According to Thierry Meyssan of Voltaire.net the British military contractors Olive Group are planning something really nasty there (involving kidnapped children and chlorine) to be used as a casus belli for the next “Coalition” attack on Syria.

So if they are going to do it, why not just before the Parliamentary debate?

Paul X
Paul X

As with Libya the British and French won’t put their own heads much above the parapet but expect America to obey the propaganda pressure. A war against Russia would also be very expensive. Looks as if the Americans fall for it again. Trump wants out but the Pentagon Generals see that as a retreat so they’ll disobey him just as they used to do with Obama.

JudyJ
JudyJ

Watching the UNSC proceedings today, the US appear to have shifted the goalposts even more in favour of military intervention by them and their allies. Haley was basically stating that if ANY military assault on Idlib results in deaths of ‘civilians’ the Syrians and Russians will face the consequences … not even focusing on chemical weapons as an excuse. I couldn’t believe the hypocrisy when you think of US activities in Libya and Iraq, and specifically Mosul latterly, and Raqqa in the case of Syria.

AntonyI
AntonyI

Stephen McIntyre on Twitter asks an interesting question: why did the UK give visas to people who they believe to be GRU officers, while denying visas to Skripal’s closest family?

michaelantonyblog

The perfume bottle saga is interesting. Liquids cannot be brought on planes except in plastic bags. Certainly not in sealed boxes. Nothing proves this perfume came from Russia. The most likely use of this perfume bottle was as a present for Yulia, whose birthday was 17 March. It was sent to the house (by MI6) in the expectation both would sniff it and croak. But suspicious Sergei threw it out in the rubbish in its box. MI6 was of course trying to stop Sergei leaving the UK for Russia to sell what he knew about the Steele dossier he worked on with his handler Miller. Yulia was the GRU go-between arranging his trip out. She had to be stopped as well from talking. The parcel probably came with Russian stamps on it so they could blame Russia. Since Sergei threw it out MI6 had to try again and spray them in town. They succeeded. Then MI6 had to explain how they got poisoned so they put some on the doorknob. Meanwhile the bottle was found in the rubbish by Rowley. Both Sergei and Yulia are being held against their will by MI6 and it is time somebody demanded they be represented by a lawyer. If the two Russians photographed had anything to do with it they were delivering the false passport for Sergei to get out. Unfortunately MI6 got to him first.

Paul X
Paul X

There were press stories of Sergei being upset because Julia had forgotten to bring his favourite buck wheat. She then is said to have arranged for a friend to fly from Moscow with the buck wheat. The fact it appeared in several outlets suggests a briefing. It was an odd story.

flaxgirl

Story being the operative word.

michaelantonyblog

If Russians entered the UK with Russian passports, they had visas. Visa applications contain full name, address, date of birth, passport number, profession etc. Why was this information not released? It would enable the Russian police to find these people immediately. Clearly that is not what the UK govt wants. It just wants to bang on about Russia and prepare the public for a new false flag gas attack in Syria.

JudyJ
JudyJ

Until I see irrefutable evidence (and definitely not just HMG’s word for it) of Russian passports, associated visas and travel from Moscow I shall believe nothing we are told. What I have established from online research is that there is currently (and I am presuming it was so in March) an incoming daily flight to Gatwick from Kiev (Turkish Airlines) which arrives at Gatwick at roughly the same time as the Moscow flight. Ukrainian nationals coming to the UK have to have a British visa so photographs of them could be obtained from that application. Whatever the purpose of their journey here, it wouldn’t look good to identify these men as Ukrainian but it would be VERY beneficial to say that they were Russian. We know the UK Government lies so why not lie about this? Let’s face it, Ukraine aren’t likely to hold their hands up and say ‘Hang on, they’re Ukrainian not Russian’.

Tunde
Tunde

What strikes me is the confidence of these operatives. The Dubai assassination squad on the Hamas official consisted of 20+ odd people (non permissive environment, sophisticated surveillance environment etc). The team that attempted to kill Meshaal in Amman was 5 people. Heck even the Bangkok bombings of 2012 had a 4 to 8 person “Iranian” team. My point being actions such as these require teams to guarantee success.
Assuming intelligence agencies follow pretty similar op patterns, either the “Russians” were very confident of their target, access and contingency planning and felt 2 ppl were enough or we are not being told the total extent of evidence that suggests state sponsorship or the story is bollox.
The govt wants us to believe the Russian state sent 2 guys, who rocked up to Salisbury after a quick recce, daubed Novichok on door handles then scarpped that same day back to “Russia”.
Perhaps that Novichok assassination document gave up more clues than we’d been led to believe.

OTT
OTT

Yes, I had precisely the same thought. There would surely have to be a surveillance squad in addition to the hit squad, and quite a lot of traffic between the two, very likely mediated by a comms / operation management squad. Two people is simply not enough!

Frankly Speaking
Frankly Speaking

Russian agents entering the UK on Russian passports? Ridiculous notion, it’s probably the first rule of the security agencies to disguise yourself. To me, these two look to be Bulgarian or Romanian, but they could be Israeli or of other nationality too.

JudyJ
JudyJ

I’ve been trying – with difficulty – to identify from the shop window cctv the logo on the baseball cap worn by ‘Boshirov’. I looked at various football logos and the nearest I have come to so far is the logo for Bulgaria – a distinctive white circle (almost like a simple daisy) with a black centre and black segments round the edge. Probably a red herring but…?

Frankly Speaking
Frankly Speaking

You sleuth you! 🙂

JudyJ
JudyJ

FS – that maybe and I’m always up for a challenge, but some would say (myself included) that I really need to get out more!
J

Cassandra
Cassandra

Obviously the whole „Novichok“ saga is a (rather primitive) PSYOP to demonize Russia (punishment / political warfare for interference in Syria) .. when logic and analytical thinking is applied, the whole „case“ quickly falls apart … but I would like to add my two cents regarding one aspect of the „evidence“ the MET has released which (as far as I know) has not been investigated here:

THE PERFUME BOTTLE

From the press-release (Neil Basu):

“Charlie“ told police he found a box he thought contained perfume in a charity bin on Wednesday, 27 June. Inside the box was a bottle and applicator. He tried to put the two parts together at his home address on Saturday, 30 June, and in doing so got some of the contents on himself. He said Dawn had applied some of the substance to her wrists before feeling unwell.
„PREVIOUSLY, during a search of Charlie’s home address in Muggleton Road on 10 July a small box labelled as Nina Ricci Premier Jour was recovered from a rubbish bag in the kitchen. On 11 July a small glass bottle with a modified nozzle was found on a kitchen worktop. Tests undertaken at DSTL established the bottle contained a significant amount of Novichok.“

The MET also released a photo of the „small box“ allegedly containing the perfume bottle. But what is shown here, is not a normal perfume cardboard-box but a paper/foil-material shaped like a book-cover, with a flap, for a tiny perfume sample (placed in the middle): 5,5 ml – 0.17 oz (which was certainly not wrapped in cellophane). (Normal perfume-bottle sizes are 30, 50 or 100 ml).

So „Charlie‘s“ story about wanting to give this perfume as a gift to Dawn Sturgess sounds rather absurd. It gets even more absurd because conventional perfume-bottles are being sold as „vaporisateur-sprays“, there is no need for the customer to „put parts together“.

His testimony is not credible at all (he told the Guardian (or they simply claimed) he could not remember where he found the „sealed box“ but told a different story to the police. He said it did not smell like perfume, was unpleasant (and yet Dawn applied it to her wrist?)

It is also kind of strange that the police discovered this phony „box“ (in the rubbish) on July 10 but missed the small glass-bottle on a kitchen-worktop, „found“ one day later“. (Who „planted“ it there? CT-police? MI6?)

It gets even more strange because the perfume-bottle (with an enormous, ridiculous „applicator“ attached to it) shown in the photo the MET published, could not possibly have been in the paper-wrap (called „box“) they found in the rubbish, simply because it is too big.

And – of course – the only source „establishing“ that this ominous mini-bottle contained „Novichok“ is Porton Down …

Conclusion: THERE WAS NO NERVE-AGENT (A-234) POISONING in SALISBURY (it is all innuendo, massive suggestion and constant repetition .. much more likely is this:

https://drugabuse.com/library/fentanyl-overdose/ and the „BZ“ (which – conveniently produces amnesia…)

Recommendation: Do watch the (manipulative) BBC documentary with the misleading title: „Skripal Poisoning: Medics reveal fears“ about the Salisbury hospital-staff closely and you can see it clearly (together with all the other contradicting evidence)….

gepay
gepay

Since we’re reading, OffGuardian, we’re probably inclined to easily believe that the whole Skirpal saga is something made up by British Intelligence. Fortunately for our beliefs the facts and the holes in the official story are on our side. One thing is for sure – Either the British or the Russian tradecraft has declined in observable amounts. The same sloppiness is observed in the alleged Litivinenko assassination. One has to wonder why the Russians would go to such trouble to kill Skirpal or Litivinenko and not try to kill William Browder. I also wonder why fleeing Russian oligarchs go to Britain when it seems like half of them die. .

Paul X
Paul X

14 deaths out of 700 Russian ‘sterling’ visas issued in recent years.it doesn’t seem a lot considering these are Mafia type gangsters. Pots of money for London Society and the Tory Party. All laundered thefts from the Russian State safely salted away in British tax havens. You bet the Government has ‘moved slowly’ to stem blatant laundering!

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

Funny how the GRU always target people who are almost completely unknown in Russia, weren’t very senior when they were there, and have long since outlived their usefulness to British Intelligence. And they always carry out these plots in Britain.

vexarb

Me’nwhile in the real world of Truth, Faith and Courage:

Maaloula, Syria | September 2018 |

Restoration of the Church of St George

Yonatan
Yonatan

The police claim that the two were seen on CCTV at the railway station at 11:48 am and at (or near) the Skripal home by 11:58 ie 10 minutes later. The distance appears to be about 1.2 miles which means they would have to travel at about 7 mph to cover the distance in that time (not allowing for time to cross busy roads). Normal walking is about 3.5 mph and jogging about 5.5 mph so they would have had to run all the way. These guys must be superhuman to do that without breaking into a sweat.

Sgt. Hartmann
Sgt. Hartmann

of course, they are “GRU operatives from Putin’s Russia”

bill
bill

i expect an imminent release of information from the Police ,under huge political pressure, but have held to their description,havent they????, of the 2 men as Russians ( unlikely agreed as expressed elsewhere here and more probably paid Ukrainians ,Bulgarians) rather than ” Russian agents”, to rectify these ruinous time-lines for the official narrative …..something like-“new CCTV discovered evidence that Yulia returned home briefly much later say around 12 as she had forgotten something ……blah blah blah” It cant be left as it is.Will follow all these brilliant articles and comments over coming days ….as the best site out there….

Empire Of Stupid

Here’s information from the OTHER police report.

“So, Boris–”
“Wait, I’m supposed to be Ruslan.”
“I though I was him . . . who am I then?”
“You’re, um . . . oh, just look in your fake Russian passport.”
“Oh. Right. I’m Alexi.”
“Okay. So we get off the plane and go through the photo booths. Keep in step so we can go through different booths at EXACTLY the same second.”
“You’re kidding, right, Bor– Ruslan? Have you ever tried to get two people off a plane at exactly the same time?”
(Later)
“So this is the hotel room. Pretty crappy. We have much better in Moscow.”
Well, sure, Alexi, but you know how cheap GRU, or OGPU, or KGB or whoever is . . . come to think of it, we’d better have a look at the stuff, you know, make sure they gave us the right one.”
“Stuff? What stuff? . . . Oh. You mean the . . . PERFUME.”
“Da. The . . . PERFUME. Hmm. Seems to work okay. Right then. Off to . . . where is it again?”
“Salisbury . . . You know, Alexi, I can’t understand why we didn’t just kill this Skripal guy in prison. I mean, the guy’s a filthy traitor, why did we turn him over to the dickheads?”
“Indeed, Ruslan, and why do we have to kill him now, eight years later?”
“Oh well, I suppose Vladimir Vladimirovich knows what he’s doing.”
(later)
“Job done then, Alexi. PERFUME duly smeared. Or sprayed. Whatever. On the doorknob. Good job!”
“So what do we do with the empty bottle?”
“Ah, see, that’s the cleverest part of the plan! I brought another bottle!”
“What for?”
“Well see, we dump the empty in this convenient bin . . . now the other one’s still all wrapped up. We leave it in this other bin here, where it won’t get emptied and will remain unaffected by rain, sun, wind or anything else. Nobody will notice it for six weeks or so, and then some unfortunate drunk will grab it and . . . kablooey! Total confusion!”