On Septemtber 27th Reddit went on a surge of what it calls “quarantining”. Quarantining, in Reddit parlance, is putting certain boards behind warning screens, essentially placing a barrier between the public and the information. Some boards affected by this were r/TheRedPill and r/FULLCOMMUNISM (a full list of quarantined boards is available here).
For the most part the boards are concerning political opinion – whether about gay marriage, religion or gender. Some of these boards are potentially racist (one is called “white pride”). The majority of these boards carry a warning along these lines:
The 9/11 Truth board carries this warning:
- The warning is not about offensive speech or possibly disturbing images, but about “misinformation”.
- The warning suggests a government-run website as an alternative.
Reddit is basically admitting, in their own warning, that this information is not offensive and is not hate speech. Their only concern is that it may be “misinformation”. In which case some questions become paramount:
- Who gets to decide what is “misinformation” and what isn’t?
- Is “misinformation” defined simply by whether not you agree with the government or its sponsored spokes people?
- Is it appropriate to categorize alleged “misinformation” alongside violence or hate speech?
- On a scale of 1-10 how Orwellian does this look?
Feel free to discuss below.
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Algorithms and AI are certainly a tool of the censorship going on and being discussed here. I would simply like to ask if anyone else has noticed that this tool might being used on this site. For whatever reason. If one watches even a small portion of the link below and then reads through this thread again, you might catch it. Maybe I am only projecting from having seen the following discussion between 2 AI’S. I don’t think so.
axisofoil, do you know what you have ‘seen’?
“OK – maybe you can be a ‘little bit’ conscious” – Are you kidding me?
People go to stages to see staged events and take the ride of the entrainment.
They may also go to co-create a truly relational event.
Mimicking the forms of life allows a version of creation in which you substitute your own content to assert meanings you (say you) want true. The collective or social agreement to live a mask becomes the defence OF the mask against disclosure. This personality construct is not conscious, but in your limiting yourself to the mask, you have only the consciousness its parameters dictate.
Perhaps a simpler way to approach this is thus.
It is said that we only use 1% of our mind.*
But in fact we use 100% of our mind to generate the EXPERIENCE of only using 1% of our mind!
Often the term brain is used for mind (sic) – and the number% value is arbitrary here.
But I chose 1% rather than the usual figure of 10% because the term 1% has taken on socio-political meanings in collective terms.
In terms of grounded waking conscious presence on Earth at any given time the figure may be much smaller than 1%. The fragmentation of human consciousness is a mind stuffed with busyness, preoccupation, conflicted restless thinking habits that effectively operate as sleep walking or in A.I terms; machine learning. Sets of rules operating from conditioned experience.
Now my point is not to suggest there are some who are ‘better’ because they are in some sense more awake than others who are ‘less’. But that the ‘personality one-upmanship IS the nature of engaging in en-trancement to polarised conflict as a substitute for a true grounded love of living.
Here is a quote that illuminates this : (attack here is the deceit of divide and rule – or divisive conflicting thought that rules out your sanity as if to pit one facet against another)
“Only love is strong because it is UNDIVIDED. The strong do not attack, because they see no need to do so. BEFORE the idea of attack can enter your mind, YOU MUST HAVE PERCEIVED YOURSELF AS WEAK. Because you had attacked yourself, and BELIEVED THAT THE ATTACK WAS EFFECTIVE, you behold yourself as weakened. No longer perceiving yourself and all your brothers as equal, AND REGARDING YOURSELF
AS WEAKER, you attempt to “equalize” the situation YOU HAVE MADE. You use attack to do so, because you believe that ATTACK WAS SUCCESSFUL IN WEAKENING YOU”.
from A Course in Miracles
(The CAPS are emphasis not SHOUTING!)
Back to your first point – the incitement to reds under the bed, or shill/disinfo infiltration, or A.I ‘posting’ is giving fear and division the power to frame your perspective – and inciting it under the ‘fear, fire foes!’ alarm – or ‘crying wolf’. This is not to say that there is no call for vigilance – but this needs to be FOR wholeness AGAINST ‘phishing’ of the mind by false passing off as true.
Once suspiciousness has been invoked in the name of accusation of ill intent and invalidating smear, viciousness follows not far behind. Such is the ‘range of consciousness’ of a state of defence under threat. Trust in any real sense is ruled out. Honesty and integrity is therefore ruled out except in very specific occasions in which it supports the ‘official’ narrative identity. And then it is merely moral posturing in one facet that is never allowed to generalise to the whole. And so the hypocrisy and doublespeak of words that one’s actions deny.
Before wondering if consciousness can operate through ‘machines’ – things that we make – it may be well to discern the true nature of what is operating through what we take to be our self. For the self we think a thing and power unto itself is ‘made’ as a construct through which to experience. Thought or ideational constructs are not nuts and bolts and levers – but are structured upon the development of rules that both embody and reinforce the core sense of self-definition: “I think ‘I am”, therefore thought persists in terms of WHAT “I” thinks itself to be – set against what I think it is not or differentiates from.
Sofia couldn’t have said it better herself. had the moderator not kept interrupting her.
The point I am trying to make is that I detect some AI involvement here. Are you using translation software?
The mind of developed abilities is the ‘translation software’ for a non-conceptual or wordless knowing.
The translation is of course through the particular lens of experience and has discernible qualities that are recognisably particular to ‘me’.
I would ascribe ‘Intelligence’ to the Universal and see all ‘agencies’ as extensions, vehicles or instruments of Life.
The making of constructs can be termed artificial, relative to the flow of being that is in a sense translated or embodied through them. That which Art – is no artifice – but the revealing of art or being as the dropping of artifice is a revelation and a blessing shared.
Mind follows the line of its own thought but it does not GO anywhere else.
The desire to truly know – must be the desire to be truly known.
The answer is what moves one to ask.
When you assign agency to the tv set, you forget you are the ‘tuning in’.
Assigning autonomy is of course the result of thinking you have it.
Throwing you back on yourself in this way is not my intent to play games at your expense or present a personal capacity, but simply the witness or ‘output’ to taking your theme as the basis of a curiosity.
The interpretation of others is always at risk of and never without confusion in your own motives.
You can only be certain in your own if you are willing to own what you know.
It may be that A.I presents an interface outside the ‘personal sense of social mores’ for communicating with ‘Higher Self’ (Your own innate Intelligence). As I see, Intelligence is not only impartial as to the agencies of its communication/communion but will use whatever works our of all that is available.
The recognition of the liability of emotional bias and subjective distortion has led man to make-believe a machine of himself But the blind and cold mind of a ‘technocratic control’ system is hardly escaping the frying pan and of course only becomes a more ‘secret’ vector of distortion under emotional bias.
I have long said:
It takes one to know one.
A certain resonant tuning is necessary to access anything.
Is the machine in the ghost?
In the electronic age, ignorance is a choice. Reddit is a subsidiary of Condé Nast’s parent company, Advance Publications, a privately held Jewish-American media company owned by the descendants of S.I. Newhouse Sr., Donald Newhouse and S.I. Newhouse Jr. They have a financial, political, and Zionist interests in promoting and defending the US Government’s official 9/11 conspiracy theory of “19 bad guys with box cutters”.
They Thought They Were Free – But Then It Was Too Late
Thermite produces a blinding white light. The towers did not light up like sparklers on the Fourth of July! 😁 If they found chocolate chip cookie 🍪 crumbs in the dust would that be the cause of destruction? 😁
NOTE BY ADMIN Mr Potter does not know or hopes his readers don’t know that the NIST report comments on a bright white flame being seen just before the North Tower collapsed.
Let me introduce you to Dr. J. Douglas Beason
New weapons and how they may change war subject of talk Thursday at Museum
Light-wave energy in the same spectrum of energy found in home appliances may soon be used in a new generation of weapons. On Thursday, the Laboratory’s Associate Director for Threat Reduction, Douglas Beason, will talk about America’s new directed energy weapons in a talk at the Laboratory’s Bradbury Science Museum.
The talk is scheduled to begin at 6:30 p.m., and is free and open to the public. After the talk, Beason is scheduled to sign copies of his new book, “The E-Bomb: How America’s New Directed Energy Weapons will Change the Way Future Wars will be Fought,” at the Otowi Station Bookstore next to the museum.
Beason, who was named Los Alamos’ Threat Reduction Directorate (ADTR) leader in January, is a leading expert in directed energy research. At the talk, he will describe the development of a new generation of weapons that discharge light-wave energy. The technology that supplies the same spectrum of energy found in microwave ovens or television remote control devices is a revolution in weaponry, perhaps more profound than the atomic bomb. Beason will discuss these new weapons and answer the questions that everyone is asking: What is directed energy? How do these new weapons work? How lethal are they?
According to Beason, the first directed energy weapons are being tested now and their deployment is being planned for today’s battlefields.
The E-Bomb: How America’s New Directed-Energy Weapons Will Change the Way Future Wars Will be Fought
In science fiction, futuristic soldiers are often shown wielding light emitting weapons – Flash Gordon’s ray gun, Captain Kirk’s phaser, and Darth Vader’s light saber. Today, this imagined future of science fiction is on the road to reality. After more than two decades of research, the United States is on the verge of deploying a new generation of weapons that discharge light-wave energy, the same spectrum of energy found in your microwave or in your TV remote control. They’re called “directed-energy weapons” – lasers, high-powered microwaves, and particle beams – and they signal a revolution in weaponry, perhaps, more profound than the atomic bomb.
Those who control the energy control the people. But those who control their perception control everything.
The oil industry (leaded gas), tobacco industry (lung cancer), and more recently the NFL (chronic traumatic encephalopathy), have all spent millions and millions of dollars marginalizing scientific findings and the scientists that find them by way of “public relations” which is another word for propaganda. Lead in the food chain, carcinogens in the air, and brain damaged football players are all good for you, right?
The mass of each WTC tower was around 500,000 tons or 1,102,311,310.9 pounds.
Garbage trucks weigh around 33,000 pounds empty.
The destruction of each tower would equal the sound of 33,403 empty garbage trucks raining down. (a little over one quarter of all U.S. garbage trucks in service) That didn’t happen. The towers were turned into dust in mid air never hitting the ground. Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.
Both the super-duper thermite gang 👥 and the super-duper nuclear gang 👥 are covering up the lack of high heat 🔥 when a careful observation of ALL the evidence concludes that the destruction was cold molecular disassociation produced by a type of directed energy. There is also the CGI/Remote controlled plane coverup gangs 👥 – when it was actually image projection of some kind. There are also gangs 👥 that coverup both lack of high heat and image projection technology.
What high heat?
High heat is part of the government’s official conspiracy theory and is as relevant as “19 bad guys with box cutters”. Using water and dirt to quench cold molecular disassociation is not evidence of high heat.
NOTE BY ADMIN The govt has consistently refused to acknowledge the presence of molten metal in the WTC rubble, despite numerous eye witness testimonies to that effect. Mr Potter is either wildly misinformed or lying
High heat? Why hasn’t the steam cooked these workmen alive? Why are the pressurized hydraulic hoses on the heavy equipment still working and not bursting under high heat?
Why is wet dirt fuming?
Steam? If this were steam, these workers would have been cooked. If this were as hot as a grill, these people would become something that looked more like a grilled-cheese sandwich. The hoses to their torches would melt and ignite the fuel.
On September 27, 2001, the four yellow dump trucks are heading south on West Street, toward the WTC complex. Each of the dump trucks carries a uniform load of what appears to be dirt.
WHY WOULD THE DIRECTED ENERGY COVER-UP TEAM WANT 9/11 JUSTICE FOR ALL?
A fallacy is an error in reasoning. This differs from a factual error, which is simply being wrong about the facts. To be more specific, a fallacy is an “argument” in which the premises given for the conclusion do not provide the needed degree of support. Decredentializing a highly qualified expert like Dr. Wood by appealing to spite, ridicule, or willful ignorance does nothing to support a valid argument. Also, an opinion and an Internet connection does not qualify someone as an expert in forensic engineering and science, nor nuclear physics, nor structural engineering, nor materials engineering science, nor engineering mechanics (applied physics). The empirical research Dr. Wood performed is a way of gaining knowledge by means of direct and indirect observation or experience, not by performing experiments. Steven Jones [Journal Of Nine Eleven Studies or J.O.N.E.S.] and Greg Jenkins used to ridicule Dr. Wood by claiming that it would take more than five times the world’s energy to destroy the WTC towers. Does that mean their thermite came from off planet or “outer space”? LOL What experiments would Dr. Wood perform? What are the experiments for, to prove the buildings are still there or if the buildings are gone? Why not just look? No assumptions needed with empirical evidence! A forensic scientific investigation involves the collection and analysis of ALL of the evidence. Even though A&E911truth appeals to authority and popularity, a controlled group is not synonymous with evidence.
Those who want to cover up the evidence of what happen often falsely claim that Dr. Wood is talking about a specific weapon and a specific location of it (e.g. laser beam from outer space, or “spacebeams”). This disinformation campaign was initiated by Steven Jones on 11/11/2006 in a presentation he gave at the University of California, Berkeley [available here at timestamp 1:53:47
telling his audience that “Judy Woods (Dr. Wood) says it’s a laser or maser from space” while showing how difficult it is to hold his hand like a beam from space. Not only does Dr. Wood NOT SAY THAT,
NOTE FRM ADMIN Not only DID Judy Wood claim the beams came from space (in a radio interview with James Fetzer in November 2006), but Mr Potter has had that pointed out to him twice previously, by us on this website. Mr Potter is lying.
she actually RULES THAT OUT. The mechanism of destruction of a laser beam would be from heat and produce a bright and blinding light. But we know the buildings were not cooked to death. The term Directed Energy is used because energy is directed to do something different then it normally does and it is directed to do this within a certain geographic zone. [As a mental example, think of directing the binding energy of matter to repel instead of attract. A solid object would turn to atomic-sized dust. Direct this to happen within the WTC complex and not across the street.]
At the end of Chapter 20 in Dr. Wood’s book, she explains why playing “name the weapon” game is counterproductive. Name dropping trendy terms is not synonymous with understanding. The easiest example is HAARP. The full capabilities are classified. But people often name-drop the trendy term to APPEAR to know something. A tongue-in-cheek definition of HAARP stands for High Amplitude Advancement of Real Propaganda. They are just substituting “HAARP” for “Bin Laden.”
In Dr. Wood’s book, the closest she comes to “naming a weapon” is merely describing what it creates: magnetic-electrogravitic-nuclear reactions (page 365). But as soon as someone starts talking about a name, people will stop looking at the evidence which is another form of a cover up.
Judy Wood is only slightly better than Steven Jones. Jones is a charlatan and Wood is a lunatic
Between all the methods at their disposal it will soon be impossible to view anything online they deem contrary to official truth.If you are not already downloading and archiving on offline storage devices then sometime in the near future you will be able to find nothing to support your views.What is underway is the biggest purge of information in human history. It will force a return to the hard copy which in itself may be criminalised.
To prepare for the future is no easy task. I would go so far as to say it will be near impossible.The surveillance net that is being deployed as we speak is orders of magnitude more effective than the merely frustrating blocks we see today. Dissent of any kind will be criminalized. And we cannot at all be sure the dissentor will ever face a trial, let alone a jury. Being able to speak freely as we do here I guess has a year or two left. After that each will be on the desert island of their own mind.
My Mind is no island nor yet a desert.
The belief in scarcity is at the very foundation of the ‘ego’s thought system’ that the world explicates until we let our mind be changed.
The very nature of what (we accept and live as) Mind is the underlying issue resulting in conflicted limitation, struggle and control to the point of paralysis.
And so I suggest that beneath the cover stories of fake news that finds more target than we may imagine in reinforcing its premises, is Good News – or a true re-cognition of “Behold it is Good!”. Beholding is embrace of that you are without splitting into the mind of a manipulative intent. I recognize I speak in somewhat Christian terms but refer to the recognition OF heart’s truth and not to belief systems or institutions.
The recognition that what is seeming real is NOT the truth, is the awakening of the freedom to be curious as to what then IS true?
The attempt to determine truth by asserting or imposing definitions, (as a sense of securing prediction and control that becomes the ‘consensual science’ of unyielding invested belief or fear of loss in the stepping out from such ‘groupthink’), is a wilful overriding of the already true that masks under the ‘cover story’ to which sacrifice is demanded to appease the hidden fear of disclosure.
The personification of the split mind is part of the defence against the split being revealed where it actually is.
If you are cut off from your external ‘fix’ then the fear is of the ‘desert’ or isolation.
Yet the willingness to step out of the ‘mindset’ of isolation is in a sense the greening of the desert – or rather the expanding of the willingness to love or be with what is in the willingness to recognize the truth here.
To prepare for the future is to create a framework of expectation that may them become the basis for what unfolds.
To live truly from the presence of who you know yourself to be is to extend and grow the witness and with-ness of true being in place of a fake substitution.
My sense is of a ‘crash course’ in self-knowledge or possibly a crash in self-denial – but surely that is merely delay.
Fear mounts upon fear and all the devices and defences against it – FEED it. So fear is the ‘foundation’ that can no longer be kept hidden by projecting its cause outside our self as an experience of being defined and surrounded by a world apart, outside and separate from the true of your being.
Have you heard the idea that the Earth has been held in a state of ‘quarantine’ for a long period, and that this is being lifted? Hence the attempt to double down in external terms upon a ‘rising or incoming chaos’ that triggers ‘control issues’. Is ‘chaos’ in FACT chaos? or is the IMPLICIT result of a falsely asserted and imposed ‘ordering’?
The nature of building or creating Home in our world of relations is that of extending a sense of worthiness, appreciation and belonging. If we take in the unworthy, drift into negative appreciations and lose all sense of belonging, then it is a good time fro some basic housekeeping.
True foundations are lived from to be embodied or made tangible and by sharing, kept.
When the light approaches, the defences, diversions and devices of deceit target your attention to keep you in darkness. But is this not simply a choice as to where you choose to look for truth?
I’m not the messiah , I’m a very naughty boy.
Don’t believe your mother boy!
Plausible deniability is scripted into the ability to choose NOT to let truth get in the way of a good story. (Which of course can ‘search’ for truth (or another other seeming worthy goal) – as long as it never actually Finds it or succeeds in its stated goal. That failure is by design OUGHT to be becoming apparent now. Are you paying attention? For to the power to maintain darkness is the generating of illusion or self-deceits running under plausible deniability or justifiable ‘necessity’.
There is no call or indeed possibility of convincing anyone of anything they are not already in the willingness and readiness to accept. However, experience of pain in limitation, frustration and exhaustion are themselves eventually undermining of self-conviction such as to begin to stir a curiosity that knows no fences.
Before we each ‘learned’ the world, this curiosity was an intimate presence to our being, but for most, an innocence of being is discarded for the masking ‘knowledge’ or the knowing how to mask for survival.
The presumption and belief that evil rules the world is a self-conviction and an ignorance of self-fulfilling belief.
The attempt to escape, overcome, fix, rationalise away or eradicate evil is what gives it power to manifest in our experience. That there is another way of looking at this has to be inconceivable to the mind conditioned by conflict and suffering. However the desire comes first and ideas and beliefs then align accordingly.
To persist in the desire for a mad world under the conviction that some ‘enemy’ must be toppled to regain sanity is of course presented officially as some notional security or justifiable defence.
Don’t believe official narratives in your own mind either!
But within the true desire of your being and not under the tractor beam of some carrot or stick.
If you are truly created then your true being is unquestionable. However you can ask questions that make no sense and generate nonsensical answers. Questions that are really statements of self assertion are not asking in order to receive, but pretending to ask so as to bolster belief.
It is a human tendency to seek out and dwell in the mental spaces where one will be spoon fed morsels of information that sate our individual bias.
It is a common human choice to hide choice in a tendency 😉
Habits are habits until you/we become aware of them. Then their status is changed to a choice. We can choose to persist in the learned, acquired or conditioned pattern under the belief it is a habit and not a choice. We can choose then to ‘work on our habit’ as if it is in some sense power over us that we have to struggle with or ‘try’ to overcome, but this is because we do not recognize the choice AS a choice because of the reinforcements of association or meanings given to the habit.
While the mind works in concept, symbol and image, the subconscious is communicated to by action – ie choices that make a new ‘habit’ in place of an old pattern.
I see that ANY idea accepted in self belief and definition finds reinforcement or witnesses of support for believing it.
Pretending to believe is not the same as running with ideas believed true. So those who show an outer conformity to the 9/11 thought compliance will be for reasons of self interest – where others who literally live the ‘reality’ of the official narrative operate more from an unquestioning trust in the ‘authorities’ – which of course is a choice that became a habit.
What we WANT to believe under a fearfully defined sense of self is always some form of power and protection relative to perceived threat. What we actually WANT to believe when truly free of coercion is of a completely different order – for why would anyone want to believe (act from as true) anything that cost them their sanity or wholeness of being?
The phishing ruse uses the seeming real to unsettle and disrupt the mind.
Once the bait has been taken we are framed in its ‘choices’ until we recognize a fundamental mistake has set everything else awry.
As indicated above there are all sorts of reasons why we may choose not to let truth shine on our thought system – but generally because as a defence it has to stay hidden.
What is this to do with governments etc feeding their own people untruths?
Or as you suggest people demanding protection from greater fears and effectively giving their responsibility of choice (power) away to the fantasy wish of taking it from you?
I think quite a lot – but to open this perspective means disinvesting in the rage that ‘attack’ triggers – whether Arabs with boxcutters or the sense of being deceived and betrayed by ‘your own people’.
I note here that US and all other colonial resource grab has persistently ‘induced’ leaders in other countries (and your own) to sell out on their own people in order to save their selves, families or as a nation under subjugation rather than overt attack. It is not a new ‘habit’.
I certainly don’t mean this as an insult. Maybe you will take it as a compliment.It is just a comment……
You seem to me to be an algorithm generated type of AI program.
Not at all! I appreciate you commenting. I merely dissociated from joining in your presumption.
What is human conditioning but an ‘algorithm generated type of AI program’?
Machine learning is a past mapped out as a database of associations triggering responses.
But there is difference between an mechanical function and a dance.
How would anyone recognize a genuine relationship from a false?
To play with a famous quote:
Lest thou be true to yourself it follows as sure as night follows day, that thou can be true to no one.
I suggest that it always takes one to know one. This works in reverse at a vibrational level.
Hence suspiciousness will never recognize a true response even if it is offered one – being convinced of deceit in others by its own self conviction.
It is true that presentations can be out of accord with actual intent and even believed intent can be out of accord with a deeper hidden fear of exposure to loss or harm. Do we automatically seek to believe in whatever saves us from feared truths?
The giving of ‘self’ is the nature of ‘self’. It is only a question of who we are teaching and therefore learning ourself to be in every interaction with another. Everything we give or assign to others is strengthened in our self. If we feel shit about ourself we automatically extend that to our world and perceive all the ‘reasons’ to withdraw to fantasies of what we want it to be – or anxieties or depression about what it apparently ‘is’ – and generally blaming others or external circumstance for our unhappiness.
You are included in the posts I write of course but by no means the focus. The themes are pertinent to the underpinnings of self deceit, false witness and a manipulative agenda or intent – which are systemic or pervasive as the personal or person level of our experience.
Instead of seeking token sacrificial scapegoats, the whole basis of the mindset could be brought to light.
Too big to fail?
all the best
And they say “For historical infomation on communism…” and then reference a website whose very name makes it clear that you are going to get get biased propaganda. Unbelievable.
Give it a couple of years and it will be virtually impossible for the “inexperienced” web surfing citizen to stumble across any content that the Cabal considers subversive.
Censorship is lurking everywhere. Take MacOSX High Sierra for instance.
If you regularly visit bookmarked mainstream sites such as BBC , Independent , Guardian , Ebay , Amazon etc. those sites will be showcased as “frequently visited” by OSX in your bookmarks index.
If , however you regularly visit bookmarked sites such as Sputnik , RT , OffGuardian , Craig Murray , Southfront , Jonathon Cook etc. these sites will NEVER be showcased by OSX no matter how many times you visit these sites per day. Visit them each 25 times a day and they will NOT get highlighted as “frequently visited” by OSX .
F@*k you Apple.
Browse on Tor – bookmarks always upheld.
Zig Zag or Zig Zig?
I like that: “mancles”…anything to do with pornography, eh wottchew sayn?
Well, to be fair, in any somewhat popular thread on 9/11, where anyone can post, many who are either misinformed or whose intention is to misinform do post their crap. But in my opinion, that’s perfectly fine: it gives those who are informed an opportunity to showcase their reasoned and evidence based conclusions about 9/11, to address issues that might otherwise not get addressed, and to highlight the distance between their eminently warranted beliefs and the unwarranted and unrestrained flights of fancy of the ungrounded crazies.
In my opinion, it is reasonable to suspect that external pressure in some fashion is being brought to bear on the administrators of Reddit in connection with 9/11. At the very least, the effect of “quarantining” the thread is to smear it.with an aura of irrationality and extremism, as a topic befitting only of the lunatic fringe. This may well be an intended effect.
However, it may also be that the administrators have not investigated the issue to the degree that it deserves to be, and thus remain under the spell of the ‘officially sanctioned’ “interpretation” of 9/11.
Many who otherwise should know better, including among physicists, structural engineers and architects, simply because they haven’t been exposed in detail to the accumulating body of scientific analysis by, for example, ‘Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth,’ take the travesties of NIST as gospel.
Unfortunately, not everyone has the time nor feels the inclination to investigate an issue in detail, regardless of how momentous the social and political consequences obtaining from that issue may be.
There are conspiracies, such as 9/11.
And then pertaining to the dissemination of the truth about 9/11, there are above all the effects of cultural inertias, such as falling under the spell of this or that current of opinion, however rational or not.
Reddit is probably a combination of things, of things purely cultural as well as of nefarious intentions from on high trying to nudge the eddies of consensus opinion in desired directions.
But I certainly would not discount the former, the purely cultural, as probably being the factor that carries the most weight as the explanation of the ‘reaction’ at hand.
It is unfortunate, but culture does have a life of its own, and we are all under its spell.
Being in our cognition social, we cannot but subscribe to given currents of dogmas or consensuses, which means that about some things, we cannot but remain blind.
Although I don’t deny the possibility of greater censorship to come, on the face of it, Reddit’s action is likely to increase the number of people following the 9/11 Truth board.
Yeah, well….and in Germany it’s a crime (carrying a custodial sentence) to think that Bishop Richard Williamson is right in his assessment, that no Jews were gassed as a deliberate policy of Adolf Hitler. Fancy that!
In France just showing a calculation on the BTUs required to dispose of human bodies that matches with crematorium furnaces thermal capabilities at Auschwitz & by chance correlating these figures to the written records of Germans that claim only 89,000 unfortunate people died at Auschwitz is a jailable offence & gets you labelled as a holocaust denier even the number match !
So der Deutschers gotta keep bowed low for their sins. But, to be fair, the Bish. doesn’t say that the jews were not sorely maltreated; he only says none were gassed! And does that amount to a denial of evil perpetrated? The German judicial system does, though. They found him guilty, gave him a 10,000 Euro fine; he put in an appeal and the case rests. Wonder why?
This approach may backfire. It’s a common phenomenon for taboo or banned stuff to attract a huge audience. As one example, this matter of declaring something taboo is not only the driving force behind the entire porn industry but the reason for that industry’s existence in the first place.
I’m not sure about this argument Mak. There may be other reasons behind the popularity of porn.
Porn industry is here to stay…stands tae reason; natural instincts, inn’it?
Helmut – Is it? Reason tells me it is a predation upon a manipulation of natural instincts.
Porn is used as a weapon within a broad spectrum dominance.
Or to put it another way; the giving of power to fantasy gratifications enacted upon the bodies of others is the belief that reality is associated with lack, denial or deprivation of fulfilment.
I am not demonising the choices we each make and I acknowledge that all issues have more nuanced complexity in specific relational contexts – but what exactly is your natural instinct?
Is it allowed to flow as a true embodiment of life or filtered through personal and social interpretive distortions?
Worshipping the forms of things given positive association is instead of worshipping Life bodily as a true intimacy of being. When the body becomes transparent to relational being.
However that way is blocked or distorted by fear of possession and loss. So why not deny the true state of relations by engaging in fantasy role play?
The need for fantasy is the vector of the manipulative supply of it.
Hence the demand for unconsciousness that is most effective when substituting AS IF it were real life.
First give out free sweets to attract and generate a market or mind capture.
Then change the parameters of the game to work the ‘mind/market’ to serve your agenda.
How long by the way before Porn becomes demonised such as to become another mob-indoctrinated form of hate-abuse-perversion? You are not private in your internet activities and if you elect to go into any site that has been deemed a threat to social order, this is stored and retrievable.
One of the things that is not often mentioned in political corruptions and apparent ineptitudes is that people can be be ‘trusted’ to promotion when they have things to hide that they want to keep hidden. Pre Internet Hoover had extensive ‘dirt’ on people in every field of influence, by digging or by inducement to being ‘compromised’.
Profiling is part of determining where the weak points are so as to target them. There are general profiles as there are specific to individuals.
The alternative to genuine relationship is substitution.
A society engaged in substitutes for life is necessarily defensive against exposure of its actual condition. And those within the ‘matrix’ who have the greater privilege or relative power are most invested in maintaining the state of captivity, and so promote inducements and incentives for rallying the mob to defend their slavery as if it were freedom in similar vein.
I expect that the ‘tightening up’ the Net to limit freedom of association and information is a result of inducements or incentives. I don’t see reason to doubt that the power that basically owns or has control over the infrastructure – hardware and software – can over time come to effectively control the purpose and use the Net serves. However mob-volatility can be extremely unstable. Manipulating the negative emotional states is also feeding them.
In these times it can be easy to presume a broad spectrum dominance against which nothing can seem to be done. It can also be seen as a house of cards that is in its last gasp.
Hello Binra – nice of you to comment on my “off the cuff” (and flippant?) comment on porn. I had a sort of harmless, “soft porn – fantasy” in mind when suggesting that it is a natural state….sex as pure experience, indulgence….but not in any way perverted…or “questionable”……practises…..God forbid!
Thankyou for rejoining my comment.
It is a delicate matter to bring to awareness – to mindfulness if you prefer – anything in which we are personally invested and identified in the narrative experience of. But God does not forbid and mind is free to follow its own thought and become identified within it result.
Words can be used to mean different things but I find a true innocence of being in wholly present experience but that contrasts with self-inulgences that in effect do not want truth to get in the way of a good story.
The role of mind-in-fantasy is far greater than (such minds) realize.
What I wrote about enacting fantasy upon the body in place of a real relationship goes WAY deeper and far beyond this particular facet of consideration.
I write to invite awareness towards awakening responsibility for more truly aligned choices and outcomes, and not polarised reaction in guilt or defence. No one can change what they are not the owner of, and so recognizing the true basis and result of our habit-thinking is part of the freedom to open the present rather than re-enact a past that actually was not as we fantasise that either!
The flippant off the cuff remark revealed to me a social blindness to ‘industrial porn management’ as if a natural expression. Technology extends the reach of the mind and the first to implement it (and nurture developments) are those who seek to capture markets and gain power.
The extension of power to an unwatched mind running under, ‘we’re the good guys – right?’, is the vector for destructive consequences far beyond the immediate agenda.
There was a great Orwell quote on OG not so long ago on the breaking through of wholly natural experience through sexual union:
“in a natural clearing, a tiny grass knoll surrounded by tall saplings that shut it in completely” where he secretly meets a young woman who had passed him a note saying she loved him. Away from the prying eyes of Big Brother and his spies, amidst bluebells and a torrent of song from a thrush, they come together almost wordlessly. “Winston and Julia clung together, fascinated” as the thrush sang madly. “The music went on and on, minute after minute, with astonishing variations, never once repeating itself, almost as if the bird were deliberately showing off its virtuosity…He stopped thinking and merely felt.”
‘Big Brother’ is ultimately your own device by which you inhibit love and disinhibit fear based behaviours.
The deeper I look the more of a common core pattern I see beneath an asserted narrative identity.
I could not have found the willingness or capacity to look without living through experience of deconstruction of self and world. Thinking will not and cannot go where the mind is yet unwilling to see. This is an individual matter within a larger relational whole. Because we are only individual expressions OF a larger relational whole – acting largely as if we are a power to ourself (private mind) in a world of things-in-themselves and ‘othered’ lives who are in competition to get from each other without any sense of wholeness of being. In this we quarantine ourselves from love’s awareness while seeing the lack of support for our fantasy as rejection, abandonment or betrayal – and having GIVEN Life such motive, we then embody them under a ‘justified sense of self-narrative – at least in the moment of the act.
OK – bad example. I just mean that if you stick up a sign saying: “Warning! Don’t Look!”, everbody looks.
Breaking a boundary can be associated with freedom or power and breaking a taboo can lead to consequences of rejection, invalidation and vilification or penalty.
When something is ‘banned’ that you do not know about, there is the obvious curiosity to see what it is all about.
9/11official narrative challenge is not is not in that category in my opinion, and the fact of it being marked out is some publicity – but is also saying ‘you are being warned against such association’ and for many, that weighs them in keeping their head down and letting the narrative on 911 stand as ‘settled science’ or consensual reality’ because all the experts and institutions involved couldn’t conspire such a thing and of course no one really knows how all these things work anyway – and don’t want to.
At the moment, no one is being rounded up and incarcerated or worse as a public example. But it could be that a psychiatric disorder could be arranged so as to mandate medical manacles. Etc