gab.com & the Great Purge on the Horizon

Kit Knightly

Gab.com is an alternative social network, set up and launched in 2016. It’s founder, Andrew Torba, stated he wanted to create a home for free speech, and counter what he perceived as “liberal bias” on other platforms, such as twitter and facebook.

Two days ago, their website was taken down. This was in response to being blocked by PayPal, and then having their server space taken away by their hosting service. gab’s founder posted this statement on their stripped-down website.

Why did this happen?

Because Robert Bowers, the alleged gunman at the synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh, had a gab account and posted some things about “the jews” on it.

Is it right, or sensible to punish a platform for the (alleged) actions of ONE user out of 100,000s? And is that really what’s going on?

Robert Bowers also had a Twitter account. And a Facebook page. Neither of these platforms has faced punishment, or censure, from any quarter.

Cesar Sayoc – the alleged MAGABomber – also had a twitter account and allegedly sent threatening messages to some public figures on it. Again, Twitter has not been blocked by PayPal.

In fact, Twitter and Facebook – though occasionally criticised for “not doing enough to combat hate”, have never been blocked, or threatened in any way. Even though twitter hosted countless pro-ISIS accounts, regularly cited in the media.

So clearly, it can be reasoned, PayPal et al are not only responding to the alleged statements of Robert Bowers. There is a deeper agenda at work.

In fact, this isn’t the first time larger internet companies have tried to stymie gab’s existence. When they were first launched, in 2016, Apple denied them a place in their app store because they allegedly allowed pornography to be posted. When gab installed a filter to block people posting pornography, Apple again denied them access to the app store, this time for breaching their “hate speech” regulations. Google Play did the same in 2017 (reminder – Google allowed ISIS to release their own app on their marketplace).

Early this year a cross-university study conducted on gab (and other “alt-right” sites) found that gab.com used “free speech as shield to protect their “alt-right” views”. (I’m not sure what, if anything, that sentence really means. Surely free speech is a shield protecting all speech? Isn’t that the point?)

In April this year VICE magazine ran an article headlined “Gab Is the Alt-Right Social Network Racists Are Moving to”. It was resoundingly negative about the site, painting it as nothing but a home for racism and “conspiracy theorists”, despite the owner’s protestations that gab is all about free speech, and that anyone is free to join.

Logically, the emergence of networks like gab was inevitable. The internet has always been that way, you shut down one hallway and four more are forced open. Look at Piratebay, notionally banned, yet available through a million different proxies that spring up faster than governments can shut them down.

Social media has undergone unprecedented purges this year. Alex Jones was banned across virtually every mainstream platform. Hundreds of facebook pages and twitter accounts were shut down on spurious grounds – allegations of being “Kremlin backed” or “Iran bots” fly around, without any supporting evidence ever being released to the public. This summer, twitter blocked millions of “fake accounts” (we covered that here).

These actions aren’t independent, either. Alex Jones was banned from multiple platforms, all within 24 hours. Just earlier this month, Facebook unpublished over 800 pages, whilst twitter blocked the accounts of the same pages…all on the same day. Clearly, the companies are either co-ordinating with each other (possibly in breach of anti-trust laws), or are receiving directions from the same source – almost certainly the government.

In that climate, new platforms were always going to emerge. It’s the classic “Well then I’m gonna build my own theme park, with blackjack and hookers” situation.

YouTube is increasingly corporate, controlled and fake. Demonetising user videos and adding more and more advertisements…so dtube and bitchute open. Twitter censors your free-speech, so we’ll start up a platform where you can say what you want.

Twitter and Facebook both saw their stock-prices tumble as a result of their respective “purges”. So, is the anti-gab movement simply a case of mega-corporations protecting their monopoly by shutting down a budding rival? Is this all just about control of the market and money?

Unfortunately, it seems not. Like the vast majority of media roll-outs, it seems this is a convergence of interests – financial on the one hand, and political on the other.

The push to ban the “alt-right” – or, the even broader term – “hate speech” has been on-going for several years now. It will inevitably pick up in the wake of the events of this week.

Within hours, predictable voices were discussing the “necessary limitations on free speech”:

Today, CNN ran this piece: “Big Tech made the social media mess. It has to fix it”.

Paul Mason, writing in the New Statesman, argued that YouTube needs to censor all the “alt-right” on their platform.

It’s a two-step process – having first established the need to “limit” hate speech, we can then move on to defining what “hate speech” really means.

They’ve started on that already. Criticising George Soros is “anti-semitic” now. As is the term “neocons”:

What else will be deemed hate speech? What does “hate speech” really mean? The simple answer to that is: Whatever they want it to mean.

It seems like there’s a purge coming, you can feel it in the wind. A purge motivated by the greed of multinational companies wielding power that rivals nations, and fuelled by the fascistic need of the “powers-that-shouldn’t-be” to limit and control our existence…just because they can.

It is both authoritarian power grab, and a manifestation of corporate greed. It’s amazing how often those two things come together.

Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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Robert Laine
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Gab will be back online. New domain host explains why.
https://epik.com/blog/why-epik-welcomed-gab-com.html

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

There has been another shooting event in Florida, this time at a yoga studio in Tallahassee.

ELECTION PSYOP: A ‘False Flag’ Mass Shooting in Tallahassee just before Election Day, How Convenient for Candidate Gillum

https://jamesfetzer.org/2018/11/election-psyop-a-false-flag-mass-shooting-in-tallahassee-just-before-election-day-how-convenient-for-candidate-gillum/

BROWARD COUNTY: Operational Headquarters for Israeli Intelligence-Directed False Flag Operations and Mass Casualty Events in America

https://jamesfetzer.org/2018/11/broward-county-operational-headquarters-for-israeli-intelligence-directed-false-flag-operations-and-mass-casualty-events-in-america/#comment-42164

2018 Tallahassee shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Tallahassee_shooting

Scott Beierle: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/scott-beierle/

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On the 101st anniversary of the Balfour Declaration …

The same day of the last funeral for the eldest reported victim of the Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue shooting, Rose Mallinger.

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2018/11/01/Funerals-continue-victims-mass-shooting-at-Squirrel-Hill-pittsburgh-synagogue/stories/201811010100

MG

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

The Los Angeles Jewish Community Center shooting and the Balfour Declaration.

A further, classic example of a reported “neo-Nazi / white supremacist”, mass shooting of diaspora Jews …

https://jamesfetzer.org/2018/10/thomas-muller-observations-on-the-squirrel-hill-synagogue-shooting-updated/#comment-42171

MG

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

Dr. Eowyn, The curious case of Pittsburgh synagogue shooter Robert G. Bowers

https://jamesfetzer.org/2018/11/dr-eowyn-the-curious-case-of-pittsburgh-synagogue-shooter-robert-g-bowers/

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

All operations are at least, “two birds with one stone” or the US phrase, “twofers”. The Tree of Life event is no different. GAB was clearly designed in, as was the “racist white men” meme. My research shows that the Tree of Life synagogue event carries very clear signatures of an internecine conflict, projected onto a typical, caricature persona, in order to demonise Trump & condition frail minds before the mid-terms, with many of the usual suspects referenced. Israel’s Law of Return has been used, for the event itself and to the formation of the Pittsburgh Pirates, which has, once… Read more »

kingfelix
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Free speech also means tolerating cranks like this dude.

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

kingfelix Free speech also means tolerating puerile comments from ill-informed folk who feel compelled to ridicule something they know nothing about, while hiding their timorous souls behind internet anonymity. Perhaps you can share with the world, exactly what it is that you find “cranky” about my work ? So far, all you have offered is an Appeal to ridicule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule Appeal to ridicule (also called appeal to mockery, ab absurdo, or the horse laugh[1]), is an informal fallacy which presents an opponent’s argument as absurd, ridiculous, or humorous, and therefore not worthy of serious consideration. Appeal to ridicule is often… Read more »

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

Ctrl F for :

Kabbalistic perp selection : Robert Bowers

and

Kabbalistic perp selection : Robert Bowers : Rabbi Stephen Wise

both at :

https://www.winterwatch.net/2018/10/observations-of-the-squirrel-hill-synagogue-shooting/

MG

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

Kabbalistic event scheduling & perp selection :

Dylann Storm Roof at the alleged Black Emanuel Church shooting, Charleston and the alleged Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooter, Nikolas Cruz and the US Constitution :

https://jamesfetzer.org/2018/10/thomas-muller-observations-on-the-squirrel-hill-synagogue-shooting-updated/#comment-42119

Robert Bowers at the Tree of Life synagogue shooting : Adolf Hitler & the Munich Olympics Massacre :

https://jamesfetzer.org/2018/10/thomas-muller-observations-on-the-squirrel-hill-synagogue-shooting-updated/#comment-42154

MG

tutisicecream
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It’s clear that freedom of speech is under threat – it always has been. However what is so insidious about the recent escalation of it is that it is being done to protect and defend the status quo of the ruling elites in an increasingly desperate way. Which by itself has exposed their venal and corrupt agendas. They are fearful of their antics coming under the scrutiny of the public. It’s easy to condemn the general population as stupid or sheep, but this is not the case otherwise the establishment and its foot soldiers would not be too worried about… Read more »

frank
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frank

It’s gotten bad, really really bad. It’s already at the point where any channel still operating on YouTube is suspect, either propaganda or controlled opposition. There are exceptions of course, but notably their viewership tends to be very low, compared with the propaganda channels.

What’s the term, full-spectrum dominance? That’s what they’re after. And that’s what they’re getting.

okulo
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Anybody who had had the opportunity to read posts on Gab would have seen that there were anti-Zionist as well as anti-Islam posts amongst the many, many posts which were neither. Some posts were offensive, some almost as offensive as Hillary Clinton joking that all black people look the same. What this is about is herding everybody into the same corral and then denying a voice to anybody who refuses to comply with the Overton window – although given the death threats which are permitted to some people and the one-way acceptance of racism, it looks as if the Overton… Read more »

frank
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frank

“It seems like there’s a purge coming”

What do you mean “coming”? It’s been underway for more than a year now.

Maybe you meant to say something even bigger is coming? Yeah sure, seems reasonable. What’s really worrying is that now hosting companies are getting in on the act. No more independent websites? That would truly be the end.

alaffcreator
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gab.com used “free speech as shield to protect their “alt-right” views”. (I’m not sure what, if anything, that sentence really means.) I think it was meant that the GAB allegedly defended its views (“alt-right” views”), using as a “justification” the need to respect freedom of speech. Sometimes, doing the most terrible things, you can get away from punishment, using the good old technique called “freedom of speech” and “freedom of expression”. For example, in Russia fascist processions and fascist symbolism are prohibited. But in the United States it is permitted, under the pretext that “the fascists also have the right… Read more »

Yarkob
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Yarkob

Gab is not “alt right”!. Gab is a social media platform that allows free speech. You know, the free speech that allows “free speech” or “all speech” because disallowing certain words is no longer “free speech”. Gab do not have to defend the views of people who post on their free speech platform, any more than Google have to defend the actions of software and music pirates who find and distribute their illegally obtained software and music via their platform. This is a crucial distinction., And can everybody just stop sucking up the establishment line that Gab was “alt-right”! It… Read more »

frank
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frank

“If you use these platforms, then you accept the rules of the game.”

In general I agree with this sentiment. There are some problems though:

-Sites like Fakebook etc are breaking their own user agreements banning most of these accounts. (Not always, but almost always.)
-They don’t apply their rules to everybody but selectively.

Anybody else have more counter arguments to the “Facebook is a private company, they can do what they want” reasoning?

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

“Robert Bowers, the alleged gunman at the synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh, had a gab account and posted some things about “the jews” on it.”

There were “Jews” in that synagogue? Makes a change.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OXBuUqPndqg

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Antonym
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Antonym

This Gab censoring is not done by “the all powerful Zionists”. Ex-comedian Pat Condell, very pro Israel was first blocked on Youtube, then frequently on Twitter and moved to Gab. Now he is in the same spot as all other Gab users, except that he keeps on promoting Gab: https://twitter.com/patcondell

frank
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frank

The fact that there are Jews that criticize Israel does not mean Jewish interests are not involved in this purge. Google who is behind the censorship on Facebook etc.

Yarkob
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Yarkob

Frank, I hate to agree with Antonym, or appear like I’m giving a free pass to the Zionist settler state, but go and look up what a gabai is. Andrew Torba is Jewish. Not all jewish people are a slave to “jewish interests” whatever that means. Not all jewish people support AIPAC nor the ADL. Gab is not being shut down by “jewish interests” it’s being shut down because lots of money-making rubes are moving away from FakeBook. Simple, yet bent, economics. “Competition is a sin”, remember… Re Gab itself: I have (had?!) a gab account. I like gab as… Read more »

frank
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frank

Again I agree with what you are saying. (Also see my response to ‘mohandeer’ below.)

The ADL is (according to Wikipedia): “an international Jewish non-governmental organization”

So what “word” or “words” am I supposed to use when referring to them or what they are doing? Please elucidate me. No but seriously, you see what I mean?

(PS: for some reason this comment was put in the wrong place at first. Comment system is a bit wonky no offense.)

Yarkob
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Yarkob

You had me at “according to wikipedia” 🙂 I see your distinction, but I tend to disagree. the ADL doesn’t have the back of your average jewish person, it has the back of the neocons who want a Greater Israel, the Atlantic Council and the CFR, and the racists who run Israel. It’s run as a front organisation for the criminal syndicate who have been in control of Israel for the last 40 years. It uses the fake cry of antisemitism to bash anyone whose message inhibits the prevailing groupthink regarding Israel and the Palestinian massacres. Many,many jewish people are… Read more »

mohandeer
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@Frank. Do not conflate the “zionist interests” with those of Jews. That is playing right into the hands of those who would negate any criticism of Israel by using the term “antisemitism” to silence views on Israel’s treatment of the Christians and Moslems who also people it’s occupation of Palestine. Israel does not serve the interests of the majority of Jews.

frank
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frank

Fair enough and I agree. It becomes extremely hard navigating this language minefield though, trying to avoid stepping on a “mine” using the wrong “word”. I hope you understand I’m not anti-Semitic or whatever the usual response is when criticizing anything even remotely Jewish related. (There, I did it again! Damn.)

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

‘It becomes extremely hard navigating this language minefield though, trying to avoid stepping on a “mine” using the wrong “word”. ‘ As intended. If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success. When affairs cannot be carried on to success, proprieties and music will not flourish. When proprieties and music do not flourish punishments will not be properly awarded. When punishments are not properly awarded, the people do not know how to move hand or foot.… Read more »

mohandeer
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@Frank. Some neighbours announced they “hate the Jews” and I simply told them “no you don’t, you hate the Zionist fanatical extremists who hate ordinary decent Jews for not supporting Israel” and gave them some fine examples. They now hate the Zionist fanatical extremists. It’s a bit of a mouthful but easy to remember and it does not equate to any kind of bigotry anymore than the loathing the world held for apartheid South Africa.
Does that help?

frank
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frank

It’s not so simple.

Feeling the Hate in Tel Aviv — The Sequel to the Video YouTube Censored
https://hooktube.com/Ze5dbxPO8cU

Feeling the Hate in New York
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=R611drTEHPA

Are all these people “Zionist fanatical extremists”?

Also look for the video: “‘Feeling the hate in Jerusalem’ – An Interview with Max Blumenthal – 19.8.11”. He talks about zionism and its effect on jewish people.

It’s a sad state of affairs when the word “jew” cannot be used in a sentence anymore without being called names.

mohandeer
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Frank. It is a bit of a hornets nest the mention of the word Jew stirs up and as you have correctly pointed out, it can, no matter what moniker used, be applied out of context and intent. The fact remains, though, that anyone who supports Israel, is by default, condemning the Palestinians of their right to their freedoms and liberties and condoning Israel’s ruling regime’s genocide by stealth and abhorrent abuse of all those rights and freedoms of it’s minority peoples. In essence then, the descriptor I used, is, within Israel’s own lexacon, correct – they set the rules(no… Read more »

Admin
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Admin

‘Jewish interests’ is a racist nonsense term.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Perhaps ‘Jewish elite interests’, would be better.

Admin
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Admin

Or better still ‘elite interests.’ It’s their elite status that signifies, not their race/religion

rilme
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rilme

Or better still “Jews”. That’s how they describe themselves.

Are Jewish people behind the censorship on facebook?

frank
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frank

Facebook, Twitter, Google and Microsoft, among others, are joining with the ADL to form a Cyberhate Problem-Solving Lab, the companies and the civil rights group said Tuesday.

https://www.cnet.com/news/adl-anti-defamation-league-facebook-twitter-google-hate-speech/

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL; formerly known as the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith) is an international Jewish non-governmental organization based in the United States. The ADL states that it “fights anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, defends democratic ideals, and protects civil rights for all”, doing so through “information, education, legislation, and advocacy”.[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League

frank
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frank

Again I agree with what you are saying. (Also see my response to ‘mohandeer’ below.)

The ADL is (according to Wikipedia): “an international Jewish non-governmental organization”

So what “word” or “words” am I supposed to use when referring to them or what they are doing? Please elucidate me. No but seriously, you see what I mean?

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

An ‘Anti-Defamation League’ that specialises in defamation and vilification-pure chutzpah.

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legionfrontier

Just a freindly reminder that any reader here and the off-guardian staff and/or journalist are welcome to my site too share your news and such
https://legionfront.com

Martin Usher
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Martin Usher

I’m one of those people who believe that while I might be strongly opposed to what you’re saying I will defend your right to say it. I don’t think there’s anything on Gab I’d agree with but I regard censoring it as wrong for two reasons, one being the free speech argument (who decides what’s ‘acceptable speech’?) and the other being that I like to have these people out in the open where we can keep an eye on them. Denying them a platform isn’t going to make them go away — the only successful way to counter them is… Read more »

Yarkob
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Yarkob

“I don’t think there’s anything on Gab I’d agree with ”

I’m curious, do you know what Gab is? Have you ever actually scrolled through a few of the really interesting posts? You can choose what you see and read. There are thousands of absolutely not racist, anti-semtic posters on Gab. Same as everywhere else. The difference is that Gab allows total free speech.

And as you say, it is the speech you disagree with that needs protecting, remember?

milosevic
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milosevic

who decides what’s ‘acceptable speech’?

I’d agree to having blatantly offensive posts put in a sub-thread where they can be read or ignored

Who decides what’s “blatantly offensive”?

Jim Scott
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Jim Scott

To my understanding free speech has already been defined by John Stuart Mill and others. The term free speech has been accepted in acadeemia as having defined boundaries such as not inciting violence.
I guess that all those journalists politicians and military officers who have and are advocatIng violence against Iranians, Syrians, Libyans, are not using free speech.

Yarkob
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Yarkob

You can already “mute” the feeds of people you follow whose ideas you don’t like in most social sites..Though why you’d follow them in the first place escapes me…

Gezzah Potts
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Gezzah Potts

3 days ago my Facebook account was suspended for 24 hrs, yet again, for the 3rd time for ‘breaching community standards’ etc etc. I was dobbed in too FB by a Zionist zealot on a leftish Australian online news service who took great offence that I dared point out the truth about the brutal occupation of Palestine, and pointing out Israeli war crimes. Another commenter on that site has repeatedly labelled me as Anti semitic, because I offend the moron by speaking the truth. This is the new tactic of the zealots; smear and censor anyone who opposes the mass… Read more »

harry stotle
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harry stotle

I may be over-reaching here but it is beginning to feel like the policing of cultural discourse (through censorship) is connected to a wider process of clawing back relatively recent social and economic gains? The neoliberal project to impoverish large swathes of the population through things like assest stripping or off-shore financial streams is well underway, so perhaps it follows that there is a greater need to control intellectual discourse not least because disaffection is a direct consequences of deteriorating living standards, and sufficient levels of disaffection might finally alert the electorate to the fact that they are being systematically… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

The very plain fact is that ‘antisemitism’ is being forcefully defined as ANYTHING that concerns any Jew, anywhere, anywhen, that is not grovelingly obsequious and boot-licking. In accord with Talmudic belief, the Jews are to be made an elite, NO member of which collective EVER commits a bad act, either deliberately or even by accident or inadvertence. The continued demonisation of the BDS campaign (in which many decent Jews have joined)as ‘antisemitic’, the filthy and psychopathically vicious campaign against Corbyn, based on ENTIRELY fraudulent accusations of ‘antisemitism’, and the defence of the great meddler Soros, are all sign-posts to a… Read more »

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

“In accord with Talmudic belief, the Jews are to be made an elite…” For heaven’s sake, Mumble, give the Talmud a rest. With few exceptions, its sole operational function is to induce brain rot and it’s not going to go away until Armageddon, so live with it. If needs must, the Torah, shared by (Judeo-)Christians in the first five books of their Bible, contain more than enough Jewish exceptionalism to be getting on with. I am one of the few Goyim who have ever actually tackled the Talmud. I suppose you now expect me to add that it is a… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

I believe your rejection of the significance of the Talmud is misguided. And then there are the centuries of exegeses and commentaries, and they are overwhelmingly antipathetic towards non-Jews. I think you need to read Israel Shahak, for a start, and open your eyes to the openly expressed opinions of Talmudists like the politically powerful Rabbi, Ovadia Yosef, of the highly influential Shas (Talmud) Party, in Israel, who declared, in a sermon, that ‘The goyim only exist to serve the Jews’. He was not kidding.

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

Don’t tell me. I have read Israel Shahak and numerous other “public intellectuals” of similar persuasion, but–more importantly–had lots of conversations with ordinary Israelis at home and abroad who don’t similarly proselytize their alarm at the originally-ignored viciousness of rabbinic Judaism towards “others”, always present in the context of any exceptionalism (c.f. Deuteronomy 7), which exceeds even that of Shahak’s “classical” smoting period, as well as observing it in action in Israel for myself (although, at first and regrettably, to my retrospective shame, not even comprendingly, so effective was the Hasbara Kool-Aid I had imbibed before I arrived). Are you… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

It really gives things away when you compare the Talmud, the very basis of Orthodox Rabbinical Judaism, (and Orthodox Judaism was the only type of Judaism for millennia until relatively recently), to ‘The Protocols’. Of course Judaic chauvinism and xenophobic hatred of the Other is not unique, but it is the root of the Abrahamic religions and their hatreds of the Other, of women, of gays etc. And I do very much believe that Nutty-yahoo is influenced by Talmudic Exceptionalism in his racist hatred of the Palestinians and other Arabs and Moslems, and his open contempt for International Law, much… Read more »

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

Gives away what? That I might be threatening the basis of one of your expertises? I wasn’t comparing the Talmud to the Protocols, I said that the Protocols provides a far, far higher proportion of Goy-panicking content to total word count than the Talmud, and does it in a style that would be (has been and probably still is) highly convincing to panickable Goyim (who, by implication, had never read the Talmud. Can’t you read? Talking of reading the Talmud (or trying to), have you? I mean read it (or significant parts of it) in itself, rather than as extracts… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

quite indistinguishable from rubbish In order to understand zionism, it’s important to be familiar with the intellectual culture that produced and sustains it. To that end, selections of ancient Talmudic wisdom can be found here: http://daatemet.org.il/en/torah-talmud/daily-peppers/ for example: How should one remove a snake which sexually desires a woman and enters her sexual organ? If a woman encounters a snake and fears that it is drawn to her sexually, she should heed the sages’ advice about how to check if the snake is indeed drawn to her. She should strip off her clothing and throw it at the snake; if… Read more »

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

What if she’s an insatiable, don’t-take my-Kodachrome-away nymphomaniac?

Stygg
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Stygg

Then she’s mine!

Robert Laine
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Many thanks for this Kit – a real wakeup call. After reading recently in Off-G about the concern that it too might be purged and noting alternate sites like gab.com I signed up to check it out. Definitely alt-right (I muted a couple of posters) but upon joining a rural group I soon found a couple of conservative voices against neocon thinking (e.g. let´s bring our military back home) to which I could relate. In a nice chat with a potato farmer and recalling a recent Off-G posting I learned of some possible solutions to saving family farms. Thus a… Read more »

frank
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frank

Whenever a new platform springs up in reaction to some purge or another, the first people to populate tend to be on the extreme side. (Those that are purged the first, it’s low hanging fruit.) Good example of this is bitchute. It takes a while for these alternatives to gather enough users to make it more balanced. This balance might never happen as youtube, twitter and facebook have such enormous market share.

Robert Laine
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Sounds logical. Yarkob makes an important distinction between the gab.com platform of “free speech” and the users. My limited sample indicated that most users were on the right (after all, Torba set it up to counter a liberal bias as Kit points out) and some of those were alt-right if we mean, for example, the poster who responded to my post (I muted him) about Khashoggi and was basically pleased that another Muslim had bitten the dust. My comment about gab.com being “definitely alt-right” was sloppy writing.

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

Robert Bowers also had a Twitter account. And a Facebook page. Neither of these platforms has faced punishment, or censure, from any quarter.

That’s because, as you later noted, these platforms willingly do their own censoring. They don’t need to be cajoled as much by the government or the MSM (though they occasionally are).

They’ve started on that already. Criticising George Soros is “anti-semitic” now. As is the term “neocons” …

Same now goes for criticizing Zionism–ask Jeremy Corbyn–or the big banks.

frank
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Facebook has been partnering with the Digital Forensics Lab, an arm of the Atlantic Council think tank — a neoconservative group funded by Gulf monarchies, defense giants like Raytheon, megabanks like HSBC, foreign state actors, and the US government — to weed out people like us who challenge the status quo.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/media-purge-facebook-begins-revised/

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It is clear that the established elites, Deep State, and the co opted MSM have decided to close down all dissent and the alternative media, using an assortment of pretexts – hate speech, anti Semitism, terrorism, Russian/ Chinese/ Iranian/ Whatever Bots. The limits of acceptable debate will be set by the Soros/ NATO funded Atlantic Council and new shadowy gatekeepers like Propornot. The MSM and internet companies like Google, Facebook, Youtube will be rewarded by being allowed to preserve their monopoly, and in some cases allowed to get away with their tax evasion.

Coram Deo
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Coram Deo

ATTACK ON PITTSBURGH SYNAGOGUE IS A MICROCOSM OF THE ENTIRE WAR The political warfare being waged by the Marxist and Islamic Counter-States is culminating one week before elections in the U.S. just as the enemy planned. Here is what we have thus far: 1. Marxist/democrat operatives created and executed a plan using FBI leadership, foreign intelligence assets, and others to put forth an overtly false FISA application to obtain technical surveillance on the man who is now President of the United States in order to seditiously and treasonously remove him from office. 2. Elements from the Marxist & Islamic Counter-States,… Read more »

Paul Harvey
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Paul Harvey

After reading Coram Deo’s ‘John Birch Redux’ rant, it reminded me of the late Robert Anton Wilson’s advice to seek out ideologies that are diametrically opposed to your own and temporarily ‘adopt’ those belief systems, primarily as a method of reminding yourself that we all inhabit our own ‘reality tunnels’.

Well, after adopting Mr Deo’s deranged reality tunnel for five minutes and seeing a Marxist conspiracy in everything that moves, I must say, I’m relieved to reoccupy my own, biases and delusions included.

Starac
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Starac

You are either confused, ignorant or…. worse.

Makropulos
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understandingthethreat.com is the brainchild of one John Guandolo, an obvious foaming wingnut. I’ll let him explain (emphasis in original): “When hostile forces come against these ideals, principles, and laws, it is our duty to FIGHT AGAINST OUR ENEMIES and maintain our nation for the sake of the liberty for future generations. No effort can be exerted which goes too far in defending what America represents. Even if it fails, at any time in history, to meet the ideals of the Declaration, America must remain a beacon of liberty and life for all the world to see, to give hope to… Read more »

Makropulos
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Makropulos
Gezzah Potts
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Gezzah Potts

Makropulos: I’m still trying to work out how any sane person could think arch Neoliberalist Obama, and all the other Wall Street puppets; the Democrats, are meant to be Marxists? And Antifa is in cahoots with Islamic State!? What…..?

Jim Scott
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Yes that post by Coram Deo was the longest stretch of my imagination ever. It reminded me of a guy Imet in a bar who had pages of symbols and scrawls of unrelated unintelligable words which apparently meant the world wad being taken over by goblins.
Now we have Bankster politicians like the avaricious Clinton and Obama being exposed as wealthy Marxist and the CIA are Russian hating Marxist too.
Oops the credibility cord just snapped. Can anyone really be that deluded and fantasmagoric.
Oh yeah Trump. Donald is that you?

Makropulos
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GP – I think it may be a peculiarly American matter in that there are many Americans who think that government in itself is “Marxist” or “socialist” etc. The basic assumption is that capitalism could somehow work all by itself with no government “interference” – as if all that legal system backed up by its preferential laws and its armed support always waiting in the wings did not exist.

Theo
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Theo

Thanks for the article.Free speech is on the decline everywhere in the western democracies.Censorship on the rise.

mohandeer
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I wonder when they will decide calling socialists “Trotsky Trash” and “Leftist Scum” will be acknowledged as hate speech. As Kit astutely points out, “hate speech” is whatever TPTB choose, as long as it fits the neocon and alt. right perception. Gorge Orwell’s 1984 Big Brother scenario has been with us for some time now, it’s time people acknowledged it and demanded reparation.
Thanks for the article.

frank
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frank

“as long as it fits the neocon and alt. right perception”

Google is decidedly left leaning. It’s the alt right that is being silenced the hardest. (But really anything anti-establishment, forget about left vs right, it’s a fake divide.)

Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber:
https://firedfortruth.com/
James Damore’s Lawsuit Exposes Google’s Culture of Ignorant Intolerance:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/01/james-damores-google-lawsuit-exposes-companys-intolerance/

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@Frank. Agreed, the lines between left and right are blurred, yet Google etc have targetted WSWS(and therefore the SEP)and do not relent in silencing those who support, as they do, the anti Imperialist and Capitalist war and resource thieving advocates. Thanks for the links will follow them up when I have some time later today.

frank
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Oh yeah, socialism is definitely under attack. The purge is aimed at anything that counters the establishment or the “Imperialist and Capitalist” forces as you mentioned. Just wanted to mention that “alt-right” is censored also. Dunno, anything that is not under their control I suppose.

Hope K
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Thank you for writing/publishing this. Censorship is a crucial issue, and we must fight it any way we can.

Gezzah Potts
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Gezzah Potts

Hope K, Theo & Mark: regards your comments on censorship, just went to post a comment on another site using Facebook, and had a notice come up just now that this time, have been suspended for 3 days! With a further warning that repeated ‘breaches’ will see my FB account terminated. The same Zionist zealot who repeatedly has smeared me as anti semitic, because I’ve spoken the truth about Palestine, has complained to FB again, using a different post of mine each time. Wow….. At least I can still post comments here. Dissenting voices are be squashed.