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10 Facts about Labour’s Alleged “Anti-Semitism”

David Lindsay

Activists outside a meeting of the Labour National Executive Committee in London. (Source: Evening Standard)

The Budget has fallen flat, so here comes the 2018 silly season’s greatest hit and dampest squib, “anti-Semitism in the Labour Party”. It is not clear that there really is a Police investigation into that. But if there is, then ask the Police about Orgreave.

The decision as to whether or not to bring a prosecution would in any case be made by the Crown Prosecution Service, which has unilaterally adopted the self-appointed International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s convoluted Definition of anti-Semitism as the law of the land, without reference to minor bodies such as Parliament.

The Labour Party, however, is the only body in the world to have adopted that Definition after the enactment of Israel’s apartheid Nation-State Law. Even as much as Tony Blair’s continued membership of it, that makes me proud beyond words that that party long ago banned me for life.

Anyway, here are 10 little facts.

Fact 1

The definition of anti-Semitism in the Oxford English Dictionary is perfectly sufficient: “Hostility to or prejudice against Jews.”

Fact 2

The charge of anti-Semitism was deployed daily for years against everyone who opposed the Iraq War (Oliver Kamm was forever throwing it at me, for example), so that it long ago became water off a duck’s back.

Fact 3

The Jewish population of Britain is smaller than the number of people who voted to re-elect Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of the Labour Party in 2016, and in 2015 66 per cent of British Jews voted Conservative even though the Labour Party was at that time led by a Jew. We are talking about the core Conservative vote here, and about an extremely small section even of that.

The heavily publicised “Enough Is Enough” demonstration attracted fewer people than would protest against an unwanted road scheme or housing development in any country town, and it was largely made up of non-Jewish politicians, of their paid staff, and of the paid staff of the Israeli Embassy. The counter-demonstration probably featured more Jews, and it certainly featured more Jews who held only British nationality.

Fact 4

The Board of Deputies of British Jews does not represent, either the 50 per cent of British Jews who are not members of synagogues, or the large and rapidly expanding Haredi (“ultra-Orthodox”) community that is often highly critical of Zionism and of Israeli policy, and which has close and longstanding ties both to Corbyn and to Diane Abbott. The Jewish Leadership Council is plain and simple astroturfing by what little remains of the once-mighty Conservative Party machine in London.

The Campaign Against Antisemitism is a textbook example of a fake charity, and it ought to be deregistered accordingly. The combined readership of the Jewish Chronicle, the Jewish Telegraph and the Jewish News is infinitesimal, and they are all hardcore Conservative-supporting newspapers. “Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth” is a ridiculous vanity title, since the United Synagogue, which the bearer of that moniker heads, has 40,000 members in a country of 66 million, and there are 270,000 Jews in the United Kingdom, never mind in the Commonwealth. Far from being some neutral moral authority, Lord Sacks is a Mike Pence speechwriter and a Jordan Peterson enthusiast who was involved in a march through East Jerusalem that featured the chant, “Death to the Arabs!”

Fact 5

If the IHRA’s quaint little phrase “a racist endeavour” means anything at all, then it certainly applies to the expulsion of 700,000 or more people from Palestine on ethnic grounds in 1948, as surely as it applies to the expulsion of a comparable number of Jews from Arab countries, of a much larger number of ethnic Germans from Central and Eastern Europe between 1945 and 1950, and of vastly larger numbers of people from what were then the new states of India and Pakistan. See also the treatment of Aboriginal Australians and of Native Americans, of Anglo-Saxons and of Ancient Britons. None of that invalidates the present states or populations in any of the places concerned; yes, 1948 was indeed also the year of the Empire Windrush, and we should always keep that in mind. But the facts are the facts.

Fact 6

By its enactment of the Nation-State Law, Israel has declared itself to be a racist endeavour while that Law remains in place. I am still averse to aspects of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. I see academic and cultural boycotts as contrary to the fundamental character of scholarship, art and science, while sporting boycotts tend to have a disproportionate impact on very young people with no public policy-making role (rather like wars, in fact).

But Israel is now the apartheid state that its bitterest enemies have always said that it was. It does not have to stay that way. For now, though, that is what it is. From the prominence of the Israeli flag at the events staged by the English Defence League and the Football Lads Alliance, to the promise of Jair Bolsonaro to move the Brazilian Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, Israel has become the rallying point for the resurgent Far Right all over the world.

Fact 7

The Zionist movement and its emigration to Palestine predated the Holocaust by several decades, Jews were by no means the only victims of the Holocaust, the persecution of the Jews or of anyone else was no part of the reason why any country fought the Second World War, the existence of the State of Israel has singularly failed to act as any kind of prevention of anti-Semitism, events comparable to the Holocaust are far from uncommon in human history, and the majority of Jews in Israel now originate from Arab countries, such that they have little or no direct connection to the Holocaust.

Fact 8

Jews are no more a “race” than Christians or Muslims are. Just as anyone may convert to Christianity or to Islam, so anyone, such as Ivanka Trump, may convert to Judaism, thereby acquiring, among other things, the Right of Return to Israel. If Israel wants to see off any impractical call for a Palestinian Right of Return, then it needs to repeal its own, thereby declaring itself to have become a settled, rather than a settler, state and society.

Every Jew in the world is either a first generation convert or predominantly descended from such, with little or no Ancient Israelite biological ancestry. Historically, the rabbis have been entirely matter-of-fact about that reality. Unlike, say, the several DUP MPs who subscribe to Dispensationalism, which is the terrifyingly anti-Semitic basis of the Christian Zionist minority position among Evangelical Protestants. The protection of Jews, as such, properly falls under the protection of religious sensibility and practice, not under the protection of innate and immutable “race”.

Fact 9

The State of Israel was founded by anti-British terrorists of the most exceptional viciousness. You might argue that so was the United States. Well, then, so was the United States. But Israel was so founded within living memory. My normally mild-mannered father could not stand the sight of Yitzhak Shamir on television. My father’s friend, my positively saintly and profoundly learned Senior Tutor from my undergraduate days, remains of much the same view to this day. But none of this must ever be mentioned.

The Duke of Cambridge, who is a former Army Officer and a future King, recently stayed at the King David Hotel without making any reference to its history. Just as no one may ever mention the USS Liberty, or Menachem Begin’s vengeful arming of Argentina during the Falklands War, or the endemic Israeli espionage against the United States, or the improper Israeli Embassy funding of British Conservative and Labour politicians, including a slush fund of one million pounds, as caught on camera by Al Jazeera, with which to bring down Jeremy Corbyn.

Fact 10

Whereas anti-Corbyn organisations such as the Jewish Labour Movement and Labour Friends of Israel are largely non-Jewish in composition, pro-Corbyn organisations such as Jewish Voice for Labour and Jewdas have mostly or entirely Jewish memberships. While the Nation-State Law remains in place, then the existence of Labour Friends of Israel is no more acceptable than the existence of Labour Friends of South Africa would have been in the 1970s or the 1980s.

It is an observable fact that certain Labour MPs have an overriding civil, and not religious, allegiance to the civil, and not religious, entity that is the State of Israel. Just as it is an observable facts that the Liberal Establishment has imported the New York practice of branding as “anti-Semitic” any uppity black activist who dares to challenge its hegemony. What is so wrong with the dream of a single state in which human and civil rights were constitutionally protected while everyone had precisely one vote? I am the first to say that the present Palestinian leadership has got to go. But remember that Hamas was created by the Shin Bet in order to destabilise Fatah, one of so many such cultivations of Islamist movements against secular Nationalist or left-wing ones.


95 Comments

  1. Paul says

    The message behind Ed Milliband’s bacon sandwich media sensation was to inform those who might not have known it that he was Jewish and therefore it wasn’t just eating awkwardly but here he was a Jew brazenly eating bacon, maybe trying to pretend he wasn’t Jewish? How trustworthy is that? His Dad a Jewish immigrant and Communist. I actually overheard a conversation where one young woman asked another what ‘all the fuss was about’ as we all viewed Ed struggling with his bacon bun. “Well, he’s Jewish isn’t he?”. Yes! He was definitely ‘weird’ as the press had been saying since he was elected Leader. It was a nasty bit of mainstream Establishment anti -Semetism which is where real anti Semites can stil be found, they being a fixture in England for hundreds of years.

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    • mark says

      They are dissatisfied that not enough Palestinians were butchered or maimed on this occasion. Not enough Palestinians have been starved to death or died for lack of medical care in their Gaza Auschwitz. So disappointing compared to previous Zionist pogroms when thousands were slaughtered as 20,000 tons of bombs were dropped on a desperately impoverished overcrowded ghetto, a higher explosive yield than the Hiroshima atom bomb. Shooting fish in a barrel is so much fun. So much better for the IDF kiddie killers to gun down unarmed demonstrators with dum dum bullets and British sniper rifles than having to sh*t their pants and run like rabbits when they have to face real men in Hezbollah. It’s so dissatisfying for Zionist families when the slaughter doesn’t go on long enough and they don’t have time to organise picnics and barbecues to watch all the fun in Gaza. Sort of like German families having a weekend picnic as they watch the gassings at the concentration camp.

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  2. As for Jeremy Corbyn – whatever powers that hold the strings of the media and professional political class are without scruple in seeking to smear and vilify and invalidate him without engaging in his ideas – but in such a wise as to bring exactly such dirty and underhand tactic to light.

    And in a way that generates anti-semitism while accusing it in others. And at least a more conscious distaste for the use of such a charge as a cheap political expedient that can only undermine the confidence in such a charge as in fact being anti-racist.

    This may not have been initiated by anything officially Jewish – but simply the muck raking intent to find ANYTHING that can be leveraged to undermine and destroy Corbyn as a representative of a political voice.
    Such is the nature and background to the accusation, that once it is invoked, everyone is obliged to be seen to condemn or else be seen to be NOT doing so. There are incentives and disincentives to furthering careers or maintaining support.

    Using the horror of evil to set a narrative under which ‘those who are not with us are against us’ – is a deep rooted psychic defence that – once recognised – can be seen beneath all sorts of otherwise unrecognised manipulations. That horrors are in our collective experience is true – but how we then respond is what makes all the difference. For many, the Unthinkable is recoiled from and yet fixated upon as a sort of helplessness. For evil seems to be power OVER Love and Life and to lay it to waste.

    Hatred of God or Life or indeed ourself is an aspect of our psyche that invokes the sense of ‘evil’ and so is dissociated, denied, diverted and the lid kept on at all costs. It is also the core sense of a private sense of control as the justified judgement or attack upon another (or self and world).

    “If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds,
    and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them.
    But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.
    And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? ~~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    I hold that we have already judged a part of ourself evil and sought – and still seek to destroy it. While this division rules we do not recognize we embrace both the true and the false and are as likely to mistake each for the other. A mistaken appreciation of this is the belief there IS nothing true – but the power to make it so and enforce it as a private gratification within a temporal life under death.

    Beware the attraction of guilt as the lure of a corrupting power!

    Any perceived or believed threat to currently established or triggered identity becomes assigned ‘evil’ to those that share in the identity – including of course the ‘threat’ of open honesty itself. And so the mind can and does devote itself to ‘Self attack – in an act of defiance believed to be both power and freedom. A self assigned identity is not as autonomous as seems, but is rooted in grievance or self-lack – and teaches it.

    The nature of the entanglements of the human conditioning are far more complex than any appeal to good v evil narratives could ever allow or uncover and ARE the result of persisting in such reaction.
    And yet the principle of illusion usurping or replacing truth in our own mind is not so hard to grasp. And therefore the realignment in truth instead of attacking illusion becomes conceivable.

    ‘Put down thy sword!’ can also be held to mean – put down the sword of judgement for the revealing of a greater discernment. For who gives hate has set the measure of his own receiving. This kind of energy-recycling has been passed down through millennia. Often most deceptively by the very intent NOT to do so.

    Engage the ideas – not the personality level – because we cannot see or know a person but through our own personality construct – which is a specific set of conditionings.

    Ideas are associated with meaning and when our thought breaks off from shared meaning – ideas become weapons against unwanted communication rather than discernments of a true basis for communication. Of course War on Reality meets with existential threat! It is war on Self.

    • mark says

      First they tried to smear old Jezza as a communist spy, then as a terrorist, but these were horses that just wouldn’t run. The Daily Mail devoted 14 full pages to these smears just before the last election. So the Israeli Embassy and the Board of Deputies took over from the spooks, the City and the Deep State and mass produced anti Semitic smears to fill the MSM instead. The monkeys got pushed aside and the organ grinders took direct control.

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  3. Harry Law says

    Imagine if the UK had in its statutes, and the USA had in its constitution measures to ensure only white people had the right to immigration [one of Israel’s basic laws is only Jews have the right to immigration into Israel 1950]. Continuing the analogy with Israel’s recently passed ‘Nation-State’ [basic law].

    1. “The states of the UK and the US are the nation-states of the ‘white people”.

    2. “The actualization of the right of national self- determination in the states of the UK/USA is unique to white people”

    3. “The UK/USA will labour to ensure the safety of sons of white people”.

    4. “The UK/USA will act to preserve the cultural, historical and religious legacy of white people among the Diaspora”.

    5. “The UK/USA views ‘white’s only’ settlement as joint national values and will labour to encourage and promote its establishment and development”.

    Now let us look at one of the IHRA examples which many members of the Labour Party, some of Jewish origin, some not, have incorporated into the Labour Party rule book:

    “Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination – e.g. by claiming that the existence of a state of Israel is a racist endeavor”.

    Who could deny that examples 1 to 5 above if incorporated into UK and US law would prove 100% that the UK and US were inherently racist and that their ‘existence were racist endeavors’ and that anyone in the UK/US [including Jeremy Corbyn] who disapproved of 1 to 5 above, and said so would fall foul of the IHRA definition, be accused of being Anti Semitic and drummed out of the Labour Party and possibly ostracized from society for life. This Israeli Nation State Law makes Israel inherently racist. Apartheid in South Africa was bad but Israels version is a lot worse, not only do the Israelis want the Palestinians gone, they are more than willing to use f16’s as part of the ethnic cleansing process.

    • mark says

      Yes, Harry, but what you don’t realise is that none of this matters. All the goyim were just put on earth to serve the Chosen People like donkeys. Ovadia Yosef, Chief Rabbi of Israel, helpfully explained it all a while ago.

      “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the people of Israel. Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew. Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plough, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi, and eat.”

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  4. Yarkob says

    The committed racist, settler state “foreign minister”, Avigdor Lieberman, just resigned in protest at the “ceasefire”

    Rejoice!

  5. An 11th fact is it’s made people (right and left) realise that while the fingers were being pointed at Iraq Iran Gaddafi and Assad we should have been looking to the Jew state that acts all innocent. There anti Semitic smears have backfired spectacularly on them and more and more people are realising it. Well everyone but tommy Robinson supporters and people of that ilk

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  6. frank says

    I guess this is as good a place as any to link this:

    Watch the film the Israel lobby didn’t want you to see
    “The Electronic Intifada has obtained a complete copy of The Lobby – USA, a four-part undercover investigation by Al Jazeera into Israel’s covert influence campaign in the United States.”

    All four (50 minute) episodes are available here in HQ:
    https://www.dailymotion.com/clockworkuprising/videos

    High production value and a must watch imo. Some of the stuff revealed is downright chilling if you ask me. Much worse than the documentary on the UK. Mad world we live in.

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    • Antonym says

      So its not the “Russians”?

      I can finally reveal the Shocking Truth: some Americans are to blame for the mess in America.

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    • Janet Beale says

      Entirely agree, the Lobby should be exposed to as many as possible. …….truly chilling

  7. Antonym says

    For fair treatment in the UK media any misdeeds by zionists against Palestinians or others should be ignored, under reported, kept under wraps and the perps should be called “Asians”.

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  8. Fair dinkum says

    FACT 11.
    Greed corrupts anyone who succumbs to it.
    Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Jew or Calathumpian.

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    • The minute a mp of any nation sucks up to Israel you’re officially not on the agenda anymore! I love all the pro putin puppets who think he’s anti Zionist he’s nothing of the sort

      • Mulga Mumblebrain says

        Putin attempts to maintain peaceful relations with Israel. But when they lie and plot against Russian interests, he does not flinch from retaliating, as with the delivery of S300 missiles to Syria. Israel will destroy itself, unfortunately, because of the nature of the Rightwing psychopaths who rule it. They’ll take the rest of us down with them, too, as they have often promised to do.

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        • Yarkob says

          “Israel will destroy itself, unfortunately, because of the nature of the Rightwing psychopaths who rule it.”

          Agreed

          “They’ll take the rest of us down with them, too, as they have often promised to do”

          Disagree. I think a watershed is coming. Call me an eternal optimist.

          • Mulga Mumblebrain says

            Israel is armed with hundreds of nukes. Israeli elite figures have often declared that they will ‘…take the world down with us’, if they feel ‘threatened’. And if you look up the Wikipedia entry on ‘The Samson Option’, you will see that a Zionazi worthy, a Professor Perlmutter, was published in the Los Angeles Times, in 2002, stating that Israel causing a nuclear winter would be just vengeance (they are BIG on revenge)for centuries of oppression by a ‘Jew-hating world’. How’s that for projection? The reason for his ire? Some EU politicians had dared complain of the carnage and mass murder of Palestinians at the beginning of the al-Aqsa Intifada.

            • mark says

              Ah, but you have to realise that “one million Arab lives are not worth a Jewish finger nail.” (Begin) And that Palestinians are “cockroaches.” (another prime minister.)

            • Antonym says

              I would rather worry more about Pakistan with its hundreds of nukes and run by a radicalized army with mullahs dominating public space. Israel is heaven compared to that.

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              • mark says

                At least Pakistan had to pay for its own 80 nukes. Nuttyyahoo’s 400 nukes were given to him completely buckshee by FUKUS/ France/ UK/ US, like all its weapons. The Israeli taxpayer doesn’t have to put his hand in his pocket for a single shekel. A bit frightening, considering how much the Talmudic Supremacists hate the rest of humanity.

  9. Robyn says

    I was with you almost to the end, to the point where you stated, ‘I am the first to say that the present Palestinian leadership has got to go.’ Your name suggests you are not Palestinian but, if you are, fair enough. If you’re not, it’s none of your business.

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        • Mulga Mumblebrain says

          Being mindlessly in favour of the fascist and racist terror state, Israel, is quintessentially Judeophobic. Israel and Zionism will, inevitably, bring a great disaster to the Jews, and the rest of us as well.

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    • Yarkob says

      True, it isn’t the author’s “business” but he is allowed an opinion, and in reality, the present Palestinian “leadership”, neither Hamas nor the PA, work wholly in the interests of the Palestinian people, so the point is valid.

      Are only Palestinians allowed an opinion? If so, everyone else needs to but out, surely?

      Are you Palestinian? Or Israeli? If not, I would politely throw your own comment back at you, stating that your opinions are not valid, either..which is clearly nonsense..

      sometimes the truth is very uncomfortable, and the facts about Hamas, as stated in the article, are absolutely correct. The settler state loves Hamas almost as much as the USA. It gives the Israeli terrorists’ “struggle against Islamic terror” legitimacy, much as Antifa, with their very public, masked violence, do to the right in the USA

      • frank says

        “The settler state loves Hamas almost as much as the USA. It gives the Israeli terrorists’ “struggle against Islamic terror” legitimacy, much as Antifa, with their very public, masked violence, do to the right in the USA”

        Right. Launching rockets into Israel, I really don’t see the point, it only brings more violence. Easy to say of course from the sidelines. And we rarely know the full story. This article puts the latest hostilities into some perspective: Israel Sabotages Ceasefire Talks, Assassinating Hamas Commander, IDF Senior Commander Also Killed. Interestingly Avigdor Lieberman has just resigned: https://www.rt.com/news/443932-israeli-defense-minister-lieberman-resigns/

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        • mark says

          Firing crude home made rockets into Israel is a pathetically weak response to genocidal Zionist terror in Gaza, as 20,000 tons of fancy US/ UK bombs (supplied completely free of charge) are dropped on Palestinians who are trapped like fish in a barrel, or human beings in a ghetto, in a single attack. But what right do we have to tell them to just roll over and die? What right do we have to tell them they can’t resist? What right did anyone have to tell the Jews in the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto not to resist, however futile that was? Any peaceful resistance is just crushed immediately by Zionist terror. If Gandhi was living in the Gaza Auschwitz today, he would be gunned down instantly by the IDF kiddie killers with their British sniper rifles and dum dum bullets.

          In the 1500s/ 1600s, there were hundreds of Native American tribes in America. Most of them were exterminated and disappeared without trace. We know the names of some of them – Sioux, Apaches, Comanches. They are the ones who fought back and didn’t allow their tormentors to sleep soundly in their beds.

          The Israeli settler state loves the bought and paid for quisling stooges like Abbas and Sisi, not people who fight back, like Hamas and Hezbollah.

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    • Jen says

      @ Robyn: I have seen in other online media that Qatar funds Hamas and Saudi Arabia throws (or was throwing until recently) money at Mahmoud Abbas’ Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

      One suspects that this rivalry between Qatar and the KSA in financing different and opposed political parties in the Palestinian territories serves Israel’s interests in keeping the Palestinians weak and divided and in denying them their national identity and their right to have one.

      For this reason, David Lindsay may be justified in saying what he did about the current Palestinian leaders.

    • frank says

      “He has now, also, denied that charge and will stand trial on both allegations at the court on April 1, next year.”

    • You wrote a letter to the police what the fuck made you think the elites henchmen were in your side?

    • This isn’t me. As for the trial (the third attempt in two years, if it happens), check the date. No sense of English irony, I suppose.

      • Steve says

        Your trial was postponed because you were arrested and charged with a second offence of perverting the course of justice. Are you looking forward to prison?

    • wardropper says

      Before WW2, when Germany’s upcoming leaders were just beginning to find the idea of Jewish scapegoats for the country’s ills rather fascinating, Winston Churchill spoke in confidence to an influential German art dealer and intellectual who had been educated in the USA and who knew the relatively young Hitler quite well: “In politics, anti-semitism is probably a good starter, but it is a poor sticker”.
      Those warning words appear not to have reached Hitler’s ears, or, if they did, not to have had any effect on him.

    • wardropper says

      I love Normal Finkelstein’s blunt comment: “Dame Hodge, you have no idea what you are talking about”.
      The disrespect for her “rank” inherent in calling her, “Dame Hodge” is also priceless.

  10. IT would appear that to some posting simply reporting historical fact, or respecting the humanity and suffering of Palestinians, or, god forbid, daring to critique Israeli military policy all = “antisemitism.” To hold such an irrational position requires either a child-like lack of knowledge about the world, a rabid prejudice that blocks out any rational assessment of the world, or a completely amoral character.

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      • As you said earlier: “Sorry, I can’t make the blind see or the deaf hear.” Your regular meaningless evidence free posts do a disservice to this web site. To the moderator’s credit they allow you the necessary rope, and you always oh so predictably oblige.

        More of your deep analysis: “Can there be just one country that is dedicated to preserving Jewish culture?”

        Some of us lack the ability for the mental gymnastics necessary to be able to equate apartheid Israeli brutality with “Jewish culture.” In a sane world your statement would have to be considers, well, what else – “antisemetic.”

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        • Vexarb says

          @IGT. Jewish Culture has as little in common with The Yahoo’s Israel as Christian Culture.has with St.Theresa’s England. I went to a Jewish Government School and this is the Jewish culture that I learnt there:

          Do unto others as you would have them do to you.
          Do not kill. Do not steal. Love God and thy neighbor.
          Welcome foreigners and remember that you were once foreigners.
          Wither thou goest I will go, thy people shall be my people.

          There is more but these are the essentials, easily learnt, the rest is commentary. Someone ought to tell Natan and Theresa.

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          • Antonym says

            In a nutshell, Israel or the UK don’t represent worthwhile cultures and can be abolished into the “Global village” ( or Islamic Ummah) while the dozens of Islamic states have many worthy different cultures and should stay. In fact there should be more: Palestine, Londonistan etc.

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            • Yarkob says

              you sound like some of the low-brow commenters on Zerohedge with your “londonistan” comment..Why do you equate less Israeli racist violence with Islamic Ummah? Bit of a dog-whistle, no?

            • Mulga Mumblebrain says

              Many aspects of Israeli and UK ‘culture’ are worthy. Many others are not.

  11. Antonym says

    Sorry, I can’t make the blind see or the deaf hear. I do see the thumbs up/down here as proof of growing UK “anti-Israelism”. It is as lopsided as the lack of criticism of Islam in the UK, with the grooming gangs scandal as the bottom of the pit for me.

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    • Seamus Padraig says

      It is possible to oppose both Zionism and Rotherham at the same time, you know.

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      • Antonym says

        Yes, but it should be in proportion. Not 99% on Zionist excesses and 1% on Islamist excesses.
        The dozens of Rotherhams are barely discussed here or anywhere, even-though it happened in your own backyard. And drop the Asian label for the perps, plus if you want to see racism, check the race of the young victims. Worse than Brexit.

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        • mark says

          Robinson and the EDL are a 100% Zionist Front. “Robinson” gets £10,000 a month from his Zionist handlers. Like Hamas, set up by the Israeli secret police. Like ISIS, The Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. The ISIS leader in Libya was unmasked as a Mossad agent.

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          • Antonym says

            Next: the mostly Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs in the UK are actually paid by Mossad. The Saudi Wahhabi mullahs too.

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            • Mulga Mumblebrain says

              Wahhabism, a genocidal anti-Moslem cult, was founded by a doenmeh, or crypto-Jewish follower of the failed Messiah, Sabbatai Zevi. Coincidentally, the founder of the Saud Mafia family, which entered an alliance with the genocide cult at the time, was also a doenmeh. Hence the long alliance between Sordid Barbaria and Israel in destroying the Moslem Middle East, once secret, now open.

          • frank says

            Didn’t Robinson openly admit that he’s a Zionist? (Although for the most part he makes good points imo. But criticizing Islam has become another one of those taboos.)

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    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      While ‘antisemitism’ is an entirely concocted stand-over, vilification and intimidation industry created by the Zionazis to defend their odious racist terrorist state, and real Judeophobia is, on most honest, not Zionazi propaganda, estimates at very low levels, Islamophobia is booming. And much of it is fomented by Zionazis and their fascistic allies, as here.

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    • Yarkob says

      no, Antonym. Read my lips: Anti-zionist settler state racist violence ≠ Anti-semitism (or Anti-israelism as you call it)

      How many times? Your hasbara training does you proud.

      Not all jews are zionists, not all zionists are jews. I’m jewish. I’m not a zionist. Israel embarrasses me, as did South Africa with my SA friends back in the day.

      The grooming gang scandal can be dealt with on its own “merits” or lack thereof. You don’t have to invoke any love of Israel to criticise it

  12. summitflyer says

    Reading this article from North America,and not fully understanding what is going on in the UK ,I still find it very hard to criticize , if criticism was warranted,what has been written here.Being fully aware of the circumstance ,I totally agree with the writer .It is always the same game ,blame and victimhood . In Palestine , the people are taunted until they respond , and then the bombs ,the real effective ones dropped from jet fighters , kill and maim 10s,100s, thousands ,and most of the world’s population somehow does not understand what is going on and support Israel no matter
    what .
    If there was another habitable planet close by , I would want to get off this one.People here are sleep walking to slavery.

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  13. Antonym says

    If these are your facts better write on Craig Murray’s blog which contains ~ 50% of its space on criticizing Israel, although it is a mini country with a few million people, ironically just like the free Scotland most like over there.

    * “fact 8″ 95% of Jews became that simply by because their mother is/was Jewish, nothing religious. Just a tradition that favours X chromosomes: feminists should love this. Jewish born can declare themselves non-Jew without any fear. They do not proselytize as Islam and Christianity do. most are about as religious a most Christians are in Western Europe = very little. For religious fanaticism look no further than Islam.

    *”Israel’s apartheid Nation-State Law”?? Where can I read you about the dozens of apartheid Islamic nation-states? Can there be just one country that is dedicated to preserving Jewish culture? British culture has been spread across the Globe enough, domination at least one or two centuries.

    I doubted any abundance of antisemitism on the British left, but these kind of articles change my mind.

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      How do you see this article as being antisemitic? Specifically, please, citing instances of racism as you perceive it.

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      • I wouldn’t bother with him. 99% of Antonym’s posts on Craig Murray’s blog involve demonizing Muslims in one fashion or another. Smearing anybody who objects to Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians as an anti-Semite is just par for the course.

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        • Mulga Mumblebrain says

          Fueled by Zionazi hatred, hence the sheer barbarity of the treatment of the imprisoned Palestinians, since 1947. Far, far, worse than anything that occurred under Israel’s lost love, apartheid South Africa.

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          • mark says

            60 unarmed blacks were shot at Sharpeville in the 1960s and this was the signal for the start of a worldwide campaign against Apartheid. The Zionist Regime shoots thousands of unarmed Palestinians in Gaza and all we get from Theresa “Je Suis Juif” May and Boris “I Am A Fervent Zionist” Johnson is a deafening yawn together with some more contracts for British sniper rifles and dum dum bullets.

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    • mark says

      Maybe we should declare Britain to be a “White, Christian, Gentile Country.”
      Can’t there be just one country dedicated to preserving British culture???
      I’m sure the Board of Deputies and the Israeli Embassy wouldn’t object.
      Or we might get the usual hasbara talking points. Divert, deny, deceive. Get the stupid goyim to fight endless wars for Israel and destroy all its neighbours. Iraq, Libya, Syria. Probably Iran as well soon if Nitwityahoo and the Orange Baboon in the White House have their way. Turn them into failed states. Then when anyone criticises thousands of unarmed demonstrators being shot by the IDF kiddie killers in Gaza with dum dum bullets and British sniper rifles, then Oy Vey! That’s anti Semitism!! You aren’t allowed to say that!!! You have to talk about the bloodbaths that we have incited and orchestrated in these countries instead! Talk about Syria! Talk about anything! Just don’t talk about Israel!!
      Israel is, always was, and always will be, nothing more than a rogue, racist, terrorist Apartheid regime, with a huge illegal nuclear arsenal targeted at all its neighbours. It sustains itself at the expense of the indigenous people, against whom it is committing a slow motion genocide, and leeches off America and the rest of the world like no other state in history. A Government (Justice!) Minister, quite openly advocated genocide, calling for Palestinian mothers to be exterminated so that no Palestinian children would be born. The Times of Israel, a national newspaper, openly called for the Palestinian people to be “exterminated at concentration camps in the desert.” Two rabbis published a book called “The King’s Torah”, calling for the murder of Palestinian children. Its genocidal aggression is the greatest threat to humanity in the world today. Unless confronted and challenged, it may well provoke the most destructive war in human history.

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      • John says

        Oy vey youvspoke thee truth shut it down. The truths anti semtic you know

    • Robbobbobin says

      Hi Ants,

      And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee and shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; that then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee. If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee: and the Lord thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers. –Deuteronomy 30:1-5

      Who do you reckon most resembles the Lord thy God: Theodore Herzl, Chaim
      Weizmann, Ze’ev Jabotinsky, David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir, Victor Mature, Mel Gibson or Bibi Netanyahu?

      Bins

      • Mulga Mumblebrain says

        Don’t forget Begin, Shamir, Sharon or Baruch Goldstein. So many murderers to choose from.

      • While this may be held to relate to a tribal identity – because it WAS the written basis for the founding and keeping of an identity – (‘nations’ were likewise city states or other tribal identities) – I read it as pertaining to the spark of divinity in all – as being brought out from a state of division, subjection, struggle and conflict – because I regard the Bible’s core nature as reflecting Consciousness in story that took various events and previous cultural experience as its own. Of course that is my decision and others will frame signal and noise differently according to what they most value. My sense is that all are called but few choose to listen, as yet. Division rules a mind that cannot hear to seek fulfilment in possession and domination or defiance and vengeance.

        Insofar as the ‘power class’ uses Jewish identity, I don’t see it doing so AS a Judaic religious conviction or identity but as a will to power that uses or subordinates everything else to serve that purpose. Clearly the ‘god’ worshipped here is power OVER – as the intent to subject (dominate or win) rather than be subject to. This status and freedom being the given and accepted of meaning to existence of any who seek power within such terms.

        That there are very influential Jewish lobbies, sectors and individuals is not necessarily to say that they are united under Israel or even in their particular expressions of identity – but they are united under feared threat of extinction from ‘others’ in the same way any terror threats can ‘unite’ against the vector of the threat. It is this sense of unique and special persecution that is maintained in the Jewish people as a means to maintain support

        So we have those who speak and act with impunity because they are protected from criticism by power. This generates resentment and hatred for acting hatefully – albeit claiming justification as a special case. The resulting antipathy feeds the ‘antisemitic’ meme because that accusation is immediately called upon and used the deny any voice that calls them to any kind of account. This then triggers the conditioning for victimhood to be restated as proof of violent hatred in the other – and the cry ‘victim! – to attack by the moral guilting of direct association with the holocaust in particular – and millennia of persecution in general.

        There is a specific version here of a pattern recognisably the same in any outsourcing of guilt for any lawless behaviours of unaccountable power. But it can only generate the ‘righteousness’ of emotionally charged guilt where the evil can be so unthinkable or of such a magnitude as to subordinate all else to defend against and ‘overcome it’.

        So it does not serve the peace in which discernment is possible, to lump Jewish people under Jewish or Israeli power any more than any other population with its power class, or humanity as a whole with its destructive and despoiling power-structures.

        Manipulative subjections of guilt and penalty appeal to sympathy but actually worship horror AS a religion of guilt requiring sacrifice to maintain separative protection. It is never the ‘priest-class’ or ‘elites’ who are sacrificed – for theirs is the setting of the rules of thought whereby the people are induced to demand it of themselves and of each other.

    • Mulga Mumblebrain says

      Is killing unarmed Palestinians ‘Jewish kultur’?

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      • mark says

        All the goyim are just donkeys, put on the earth to serve the Chosen People. The Chief Rabbi, Ovadia Yosef, helpfully explained it all.

        • Robbobbobin says

          “All the goyim are just donkeys, put on the earth to serve the Chosen People. The Chief Rabbi, Ovadia Yosef, helpfully explained it all.”

          Do you know why Rabbinic Jews are not allowed to carry a stick on the Sabbath?

          If you don’t, then you are fulminating against the extremist, received opinions of one facistic old (now dead) rabbi, in a long line of them, almostt all counting how many angels can fit on the head of a pin, and that’s it. Nothing more. An uninformed goy in a fit of outrage over the opinion of an authoritarian nutter, arrived at by a centuries old process of misguided, theocratic nit picking, both full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. A bit like an idiotically offended donkey, if I may say so. As for your upvotes, well hey: this is a BTL.

          When I was about four or five I reportedly sat on the floor for a long time, staring at an aunt by marriage before telling her that she looked just like a witch. I presume I was informed by Walt Disney’s Wicked Queen, who probably played a significant part in my pantheon of impressive characters at that time. I even had a book about her in my perxonal library. Apart from the Queen’s charicature of a nose and the evil expression, she did. My aunt was outraged and never got over it. Clearly, she couldn’t tell the difference between her own mirror image and the meanderings of a pre-school child. You sound just like her.

      • Robbobbobin says

        You seem to be missing the point. Try summoning up enough equanimity to read binra’s post in actual reading mode. Alternatively, have a shot at https://jaideepprabhu.org/tag/r-shila/ to really rattle your dags (hope I’m using that phrase in a meaningful Australian way). It’s only a review as I suspect the book it reviews, or, more exactly, the standpoint from which the book is written, would give you terminal apoplexy.

        • Robbobbobin says

          Indentation to indicate which post a reply is responding to isn’t working correctly, so:

          “You, Mulga Mumblebrain, seem to be missing the point…”‘

      • Remember that Murray is still ex labour. He may against war but he’s still establishment, end of! He’s like the swp in a way, they claim to be revolutionary socialists (Trotskyists are all frauds) but when it comes to the crunch they say ok everyone abandon all that white we’ve spoken about and just vote Labour no matter who’s in charge whether that be Blair (3 times) ed miliband or corbyn. So to me Murray like the swp are controlled opposition

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        • different frank says

          Try mentioning 911, the woolwich hoax or the 7/7 patsies there.

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