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Labour Splitters: Getting the Bland Back Together A damp squib of a press conference displays a group struggling for charisma, coherence and identity

Kit Knightly

Can you name these people? Answers on a postcard please.

As of this morning, seven MPs have officially resigned the whip and quit the Labour Party. They are now “independent”, apparently. Their names, if you don’t know already: Chris Leslie, Chuka Umunna, Luciana Berger, Mike Gapes, Angela Smith…and the other two.

It doesn’t really matter, to quote David Lindsay on Twitter:

And so our 7 brave little soldiers head off into the unknown. The Seven Samurai. Ronin, the Japanese might say. Warriors without masters, if you’re in the mood to be flatteringly poetic.

Chickens without heads if you’re being a little more honest.

It’s not gone terribly well so far.

For one thing, the announcement was NOT of the long-awaited [name-to-be-announced] party. There is no party. They have no policies except Brexit is bad and no ideology except Corbyn is worse. There is no leader. No manifesto. No direction.

They are the “independent group”, that is all. A not-at-all catchy name for a sordid collection of also-rans and never-weres. A line up that looks more like a staff photo for a struggling comprehensive than a political party. Or the roster of one of those dodgy personal injury law firms that are always advertising on daytime TV.

(Just imagine Mike Gapes walking at 45 degrees to the camera and asking “Have you or someone you know been injured in an accident at work?”)

They are the smattering of New Labour who don’t realise they got old, and aren’t so much moving away as being left behind. Refusing to flow with the current, and slumping heavily down to the riverbed, to be buried in silt and fossilised.

Who knows, in ten thousand years they might be worth something. Historical curiosities. Archaeologists, yet born, will be poring over old documents and asking “Yes yes…but who IS Chris Leslie…and what did he do?” without realising that everyone was asking that while he was alive too.

The strangest aspect of this is the lack of unity on their part. They are not a party, they are barely a group. They all seem to be leaving for different reasons. Mike Gapes likes war and wants more of it. Chuka wants other people to edit his Wikipedia page for him this time. Luciana Berger wants to do whatever she wants and scream “antisemite!” at anyone who tries to stop her. Angela Smith wants to stop Brexit and run a campaign on the line “Vote for Labour because we won’t win”.

This announcement, of course, has been expected for a while now. The “new centrist party” has been the subject of frenzied negotiation behind the scenes for weeks…now we know they decided on literally nothing and held a press conference anyway.

They aren’t so much a group of comrades storming out as a united front, but rather a bunch of near-strangers who all happen to be leaving the staff Christmas party at the same time and are forced to walk down to the car park together in stony silence.

Less the “Gang of Four”, more “The Seven People Who Sort of Know Each Other Well Enough to Exchange Polite Chat in a Lift But Only for Two or Three Floors and then it Gets Awkward”.

Labour, naturally, have been quick to declare that these MPs should now face by-elections. A gauntlet the seven of them have been startlingly reticent to pick up.

Angela Smith was on the BBC after the press conference, declaring she won’t be running in a by-election because she’d definitely win, before capping it all off with a good old-fashioned piece of British racism.

Angela parted with Labour over “antisemitism” and, as of right now, her new political party has more racism scandals than it has names.

There’s even talk of bringing John Woodcock into the “Independent Group”. A man who was suspended from the party of allegations of sexual misconduct, but then endeavoured to turn it into an epic “you can’t dump me if I dump you first”, and pretend he quit on a point of principle (he didn’t) instead of being fired for being creepy (he was). Since then he has not gone more than three or four consecutive minutes without criticising Jeremy Corbyn. It would probably be annoying if anyone was listening.

All in all, this is the most humiliating and pointless Labour press conference since the last time they made a futile political gesture to try to get rid of Corbyn.

From our outside perspective, we can at least formulate a rough draft of a manifesto for these people. Broadly speaking they are in favour of stopping Brexit, apartheid Israel, selling arms to Saudi Arabia, declaring war under a false pretense, privatising water and right-wing coups in Latin America. Some niche opinions there, but it’s a foundation at least.

One thing we can’t really help them with is a name. They need a new one, and soon. “The Independent Group” is dreadful. Shortening it to “TIG” doesn’t work either, because whatever else they are…they sure ain’t “it”.

Some people have been calling them “the seven dwarves”, a rather unfitting moniker when you think about it. After all, the seven dwarves worked as a team, had discernible personalities and most people know their names.

They are much more the “seven veils”: Disposable, transparent, and they go wherever the wind is blowing.

Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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bevin
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bevin

The shocking news from Skwawkbox is that lifelong socialist and friend of the poor Ian Austin is going to leave the party that gave him a home when nobody else was daft enough to.
Added to the earlier rumour that Jess Phillips, the AOC of the West Midlands, is also thinking of withdrawing her support from the Labour Party, this suggests that everything is going just as expected. Now all it needs is for Max Mosley to release Tom Watson from his personal service contract we’d be up to 12 Judases.

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ron keating

Something that appears to have been missed with all these quitters is the fact that they all have no problem moving from one disquise to another – all paid for by the people – yet the people are not even considered when it comes to this act of betrayal and treachery. Apparently all of these quitters believe they know what their constituencies are without even referencing them. This is not democracy and is more evidence of the little care the politicians have for the nation. There’s no doubt their names will be forgotten in time but arrogance they display needs… Read more »

mark
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mark

Ah, but there’s no need for any bye elections or any of that democracy malarkey. Berger, Gapes, Soubry and Co. know exactly what all their constituents want because they have spoken to some people and received letters from some of them. So they know everything already and know everybody fully agrees with them. None of the people who voted Labour wanted Jezza, they only wanted Berger or whoever. None of the people who voted Tory wanted Brexit. Besides, having bye elections in a few constituencies would be very disruptive and unnecessary. Having a nationwide second referendum, however, is not disruptive… Read more »

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

I think we should have a referendum every month until the year 2050. Just to be on the safe side, like 🙂

Paul
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Paul

Well it’s quite likely there will need to be a 3rd Referundum if Remain won by anything less than say 5% which is of course most likely. The pressure for that will be very strong in the circumstances where many, many people – maybe 52%? – would see it as a crude gerrymandering of those determined to Remain at any cost. That will no doubt require some very direct democracy if it was resisted! But we should all be back where we are now, looking for an agreeed Deal, in a couple of years time! (Unless of course a 3rd… Read more »

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g

I think the idea is that the 2nd ref would be binding. So a win for remain would involve a party with leave in it’s manifesto winning the following election. This is one of the reasons Nigel has started his Brexit party.

The fact is, Brexit is not going anywhere with or without the “People’s vote”. These people are totally deluded.

Paul
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Paul

A binding vote? No wonder Leavers see this as fraud. Happily it is delusional; imagine THIS Parliament voting a majority for a 2nd ref and unanimity over the question let alone making it binding – even on a 51% vote? It’s the old fashioned cloud cuckoo land.

bevin
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bevin

It is worth wondering, as it were ‘aloud’, how to account for the studied insouciance with which official Labour marks these defections. The obvious thought is that Corbyn et al can think of no response beyond watching with dismay as one more headline is added to the long series, going back three years now, of concocted tales of anti-semitism and extremism. I am coming round to the idea that what we are actually witnessing is a turning point in the disappearance of the traditional media and the ‘political caste’-the half a million or so people that, since Burke, have been… Read more »

harry stotle
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harry stotle

The (lack of) calibre amongst the defectors is telling. In not a single case is the trecherous MP anything more than a Blairite apologist happy to drone on about the horrors of antisemitism (and other identity politics bullshit) while being hopelessly equipped to tackle the structual forms of oppression that have led to social divisions and gross inequality characterising our current dystopia – to put the icing on the cake they are all pro-war, anti-Russian and in thrall to the corporate pupprtmasters who really control Britain. The obvious question is why did they join Labour in the first place (quick… Read more »

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

Good old George Galloway telling it like it is to Sky News!

Paul
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Paul

It’s a fantastic clip. I sent it off to friends etc and was surprised to receive very enthusiastic responses from two people who a day earlier would have said Galloway is mad. The main reaction was to his description of Corbyn’s anti-racism. And I love his hats. Labour needs people like George to spell it out.

harry stotle
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harry stotle

Cuts to the chase – Corbyn is not an antisemite, Bergers rage is confected, and the MSM are not, and never have been the servants of truth.

Galloway in.

mark
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mark

It’s a great shame he’s not still in Parliament with all the BS about anti semitism, Syria, Iran, Russia, Venezuela. He could be the sole voice of sanity in that place.

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

All 11 of these members of the newly formed Independent Group political party strongly believe in a ‘People’s Vote’ to overturn the referendum.

Imagine that in a democracy, 11 Members of Parliament sitting in the House of Commons representing a political party that nobody has ever voted for, which doesn’t even have anything that resembles a manifesto. They should be forced to adjourn from their duties immediately and be made to stand in by-elections.

mark
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mark

Perhaps Berger or Soubry should just swear herself in as prime minister like their best mate Gweedo in Venezuela.
Who bothers with elections any more?
That’s sooooo last year!

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

Breaking News: A Netanhyahu aid convy is in Calais waiting for clearance to enter England!

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

“…aid convoy…”

John2o2o
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John2o2o

I’m only disappointed that Jess Phillips wasn’t among them. What’s stopping her?

different frank
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different frank

I’ve been told tat their new “party” is a registered business, that was set up 2 years ago. I’ve not been able to verify this.
Anyone know anything? .

Paul
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Paul

Registered in 2015 in Panama I read here. It means donations are secret. They aren’t registering as a ‘party’ so couldn’t take over from the SNP as second opposition. The main advantage to them is not having to disclose their financial backing. Interesting they complain about being asked about Israeli money but don’t deny it; they don’t have to, Panama won’t let their secrets out! One of them said yesterday they’d used their ‘own money’ but didn’t go into any details. Great stuff you ‘democrats’, perhaps they’ll open an office in Panama City?

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

Sorry Paul, I thought I commented. Yes, there is meant to be a Panama connection but it being put down to some kind of Web Guard software to prevent spam or something peculiar like that.

Paul
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Paul

I guess they’re pretty good at financial cybercrime in Panama! (It doesn’t sound very plausible though). Where is the money they’re crowd funding going? Who is in charge of vetting donations to fit Parliamentary regulations? As a private company rather than a political party do they really escape all responsibility? It opens such intriguing possibilities I guess it will soon be stamped on very hard.

mark
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mark

Plenty of shekels from the Mossad Office.
They had a war chest of several million to “drive Corbyn out of public life.”

This follows a pattern with other Zionist Fronts, like “Tommy Robinson”, the EDL and Wilders’s outfit in Holland.

This bunch of clowns will be in and out of the Mossad Office like yoyos to pick up their money and get their instructions.

What was that about Russia interfering in other countries’ elections?

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

Registered companies can be found on the Companies House website. I’ve looked for The Independent Group and have so far not found anything.

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q
davemass
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davemass

The law needs to be changed, to force by-elections. At least Roy Jenkins stood in Hillhead (?) when gang of 4 quit.
Mind you, they kept Thatcher in for 10+ years by splitting the oppositon!
This lot won’t make it to the next General one!

DunGroanin
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DunGroanin

Jenkins was setup by the outgoing Labour traitor who cordinated with Thatcher and the Tory chiefs. It is documented in Downing street papers.

It is a coordinated coup to deprive the country of a vote for parliamentry representation.

‘Asked why they voted with the government on a no-confidence motion just a few weeks ago, Soubry says: “The last thing this country wants or needs is a general election.”

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

Brilliant – now the Conservatives have jettisoned some deadwood!

mark
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mark

All these deadbeats are deselecting themselves. Great!

mark
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mark

Keep Calm And Carry On, Jezza.

mark
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mark

What we are seeing is a protracted, lavishly funded, multi-layered, yet relatively crude and unsophisticated, Zionist instigated and Zionist orchestrated, but not exclusively Zionist, Smear Campaign, the openly expressed objective of which is “to drive Corbyn out of public life.” It is clear that the main elements in the Campaign are:- The Mossad Office at the Israeli Embassy. The Board of Deputies. The Zionist Friends of Israel. Other Zionist Organisations. The small Jewish Press, Jewish Chronicle etc. The Blairite Backstabbers in the PLP, particularly this Gang of Seven/ Eight, Watson, Benn, Ellman, Mann etc. The UK Spook Organisations, MI5/6. The… Read more »

bevin
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bevin

and another one bites the ..hand that fed her: Joan Ryan Labour MP for Ealing and chair of the Labour friends of Israel has resigned: she couldn’t take the racism and the abuse and the lack of enthusiasm to send troops to Venezuela etc etc
That’s eight down and about 95 to go.

mark
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mark

Another rabid Zionist bitch to keep Berger company.

writerroddis
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writerroddis

Open letter to Luciana Berger from Shaun Lawson, posted yesterday in in Dorset Eye. I liked these two paragraphs in particular: “I don’t think you joined Labour to change the world or achieve real social justice. I think you joined Labour because of personal ambition. That’s borne out by your being parachuted into a safe seat regarding which, at the time, you knew nothing. “It’s also borne out by your extraordinarily weak record on challenging the Israeli government on more or less anything; and your desire to ignore the very real problems with several of the IHRA examples, and misrepresent… Read more »

harry stotle
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harry stotle

Did you know the Conservative code of conduct does not at any point mention the word “antisemitism” or spell out a definition of antisemitism, IHRA-approved or otherwise? https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-conservative-party-rulebook-doesnt-mention-antisemitism?fbclid=IwAR0PM1WC62SH-LVBsbCXkreLDN2SFgbS9P4ObkQnJNA_IVZXFD0X3svnUy4 I assume this means a party infamous for cultivating powerful class links with the Nazis is now purged of miscreants and nowadays would not sink to the same depraved depths as Labour by sending the odd tweet that mentions Israel in unfavourable terms? Yes, it seems May’s policy simply reflects the fact the tories do not posses a single MP who would ever stray over the antisemitism line even though this doesn’t… Read more »

DomesticExtremist
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DomesticExtremist

Yes, it seems May’s policy simply reflects the fact the tories do not posses a single MP who would ever stray over the antisemitism line

They know what side their bread is buttered. Tories are always unfailingly loyal to their owners and donors.

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

After watching ‘The Israel Lobby’ documentary I was appalled by the behaviour of Joan Ryan, who I had never heard of before. If you have seen the documentary you will observe the pathological manner Ryan turned on a Labour member and called her out as an anti-Semite, when there were no grounds to do so. If it wasn’t for the undercover reporter they would have succeeded in smearing and defaming this woman and had her thrown out of the Labour Party. That is the inverted reality that Joan Ryan operates in. I, for one, am delighted that she has resigned… Read more »

harry stotle
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harry stotle

‘I just hope the so-called ‘Independent Group’ are forced to fight by-elections and they all lose their seats.’ – they will fight tooth and nail to avoid any sort of reckoning at the ballot box, you know it, and I know it. Their position is inherently unappealing: a bit like watching an abscess being lanced then watching Blairite bile ooze out – I mean it’s hardly a vote winner, is it? Ryan is chair of Labour: friends of Israel – I assume she will now have to step down since she is no longer, and in fact never was a… Read more »

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

Harry – well said. Particularly amusing was Amber Smith’s ‘funny tinge’ casual racist slur on live tv and the next day having to issue a snivelling apology!! And she wants to hold onto her seat?

At the end of the day all of these people won their local elections using the Labour name and Labour Party resources. Constituents have a right for a re-vote!

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

Watching The Lobby again, I can only surmise that the LFI stall at the conference supporting a two-State solution was set up to deliberately try and ensnare people to rack up the ‘anti-Semite’ tally – basically a sting operation. As was perfectly clear in the video, Joan Ryan had a small number of statements to make regarding the solution – coexistence and peace – and beyond that could offer no meaningful details on how it would or could be brought about. She got very uncomfortable when challenged on the atomisation of Palestinian land and that’s when she began refusing to… Read more »

crank
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crank

I detect a degree of overconfidence in some dismissals of the IG. Too much time listening to Labour members and left forums. How many in the electorate are still plugged into the celebrity politics whilst ignorant of the underlying issues?
The wreckers could drip this all the way to the GE and project Corbyn goes bye bye.

The price of appeasement?

mark
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mark

Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer……….

wardropper
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wardropper

They’re probably bribed CIA plants, or dull-witted patsies – not even bribed.
Let’s move on, shall we?
I’d like my government to know what an actual person consists of.
I know, I know… I aim high.

mark
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mark

Right on cue:-

80 graves vandalised at a Jewish cemetery in France.

The Board of Deputies and the Mossad Office at the Israeli Embassy have probably just put in their bulk orders for spray cans.

Carmpat
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Carmpat

Are you saying that the desecration of Jewish graves in France was done by Jews?

mark
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mark

It has been in the past. There are proven cases of this. A few years ago, a lot of Jewish cemeteries in France were vandalised, with all the usual hysteria and political exploitation. The offender was eventually caught. A French Jewish man who said he had been doing it to increase support and sympathy for Israel, which had been doing its usual party piece of butchering thousands of people in Gaza at the time. He obviously wasn’t too concerned about any distress caused to bereaved families. About a year ago there were a series of 163 bomb threats to US… Read more »

carmpat
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carmpat

Glad to see that Paul at least uses words like ‘seems’ ‘possibility, and ‘likely’ in his measured response. And even Mark adds that there MAY be some genuine incidents (occasionally)’. A good day.

Paul
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Paul

The difficulty with spray painting Swastikas and the like is that it’s obviously so easily done – especially in cemeteries at night when there aren’t witnesses. Rarely are these outrages claimed by known groups. Damage is minimal but it often does the trick, winds up emotion.

mark
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mark

Some of these are obvious hoaxes to serve Zionist narratives about rampant Nazis hiding behind every bush.
But any practical joker without any political motive (admittedly with a sick sense of humour) who just likes stirring up trouble, knows that for the price of a spray can, and a handful of crudely daubed swastikas, he can get the most powerful people in the country hyperventilating and running round in circles like headless chickens. This gives inadequate people a sense of power, like people who enjoy starting fires.

Paul
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Paul

Yes, Swastika graffiti is Step 2 in Juvenile progress, after a cock and balls. All over the world!

Paul
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Paul

Are you saying you know they aren’t? False flag incidents have always been a possibility and when they coincide so neatly with political events it often seems more likely than not. Look at our history in NI for example – or any other conflict you care to name.

DunGroanin
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DunGroanin

Utterly outrageous comment by Jack Straw egged on by Eddie Mair on LBC – JC/Diane Abbott/Emily Thornberry are a threat to national security! Justifying his invasion of Afghanistan because of Taliban and AQ and glossing over his whole role in that illegal invasion and Iraq and lying by saying what else where they supposed to on 12th September 2001!!! He is also a anti-semite, racist, terrorist supporting, anti-israel … Fucking hillarious – the kitchen sink yesterday, today the stinking toilet bowl. This is mainstream news by Eddie Mair, ex BBC, pushing a full on anti Corbyn message. Talk of filth.… Read more »

Tom
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Tom

Pathetic, isn’t it? I was listening to Five Live earlier and the presenter was berating a Labour MP for not resigning! Even in the Guardian, not one political article goes by without some disparaging remark about Corbyn – a supposedly left-wing newspaper. And then they have the nerve to canvass for donations. Meanwhile, they completely let May off the hook for her catalogue of lies, incompetence and venality, as the clock ticks down to the cliff edge, with still no clue from her what the arrangements will be after March 29th. And what’s extreme about any of Corbyn’s policies? Nothing.… Read more »

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

“…not one political article goes by without some disparaging remark about Corbyn – a supposedly left-wing newspaper.” Please stop spreading such fake information. The [Manchester] Guardian is not and never was a “left wing newspaper”. Its history from its beginnings as a cotton traders’ racket protection rag until now has been one a genuinely left-wing Manchester-based rival of the 1830s described as that of a foul parasitic prostitute working on behalf of the worst type of dark, Satanic mill owner. Any similarity between the Guardian and a left-wing newspaper always was and still is an impeccably crafted, bourgeois rentier-rat hypocrisy… Read more »

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

Well said this man!! Wish I had met you when I was 18/19 years old and you could have saved me years and years of trouble!!

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

The Blairite, neoliberal, pro-war, establishment Guardian have been attacking Jeremy Corbyn for at least 3 years solid. They have set John Crace and Rafael Behr to launch another wave of attacks on Corbyn and an alternative Labour Party. “At Times Like These, Corbyn is His Own Worst Enemy” (Crace) https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/19/at-times-like-these-corbyn-is-his-own-worst-enemy “The choice is clear for Labour MPs. Stay with Corbyn or leave the party” (Behr) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/19/corbyn-labour-party-broad-church It is crystal clear what they desire: A pair of barely indistinguishable political parties running the country. Naturally, they will attack the Conservatives but only back a Labour Party that resembles a Blairite vision.… Read more »

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

“They have set John Crace and Rafael Behr to launch another wave of attacks on Corbyn…”

Forget Behr, he doesn’t even know how to spell his own names (c.f. Raphael Samuel and Stafford Beer). As for John Crace, he used to write good, if rather snide, jokes in his occasional and still-extant “Digested Read” column for the Guardian but it wasn’t until he became a very nasty little snide joke in and of his small-minded self that they moved his regular deposits into the main sewer.

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

This comment summarises many of the views expressed over on the Crace article: “…We need to mock their every , decision, action, and result. This is no time for unity. No, not at all, laugh at them, enjoy their plight, job losses, all of it. And the best thing is they can’t blame us, we told them, and they didn’t listen. As the mighty Stickmen with Rayguns said , “Some people deserve to suffer” https://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/126074222 At the time of writing it had 32 recommends. This is from someone who rejects solidarity, would be pleased when working class men and women… Read more »

Jay-Q
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Jay-Q

If we lived in half the country that Westminster makes out we do then a despicable liar like Jack Straw would be behind bars. Thornberry and Abbott are two of the lowest quality MP’s in the whole country and do Labour a massive disservice by being there.

Paul
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Paul

Straw is a good example of everything obnoxious about Blair’s Government. Ask him about Rendition and his personal involvement and he makes a formal No Comment. Ask him if he’d like to earn thousands a day for a Chinese startup and he’s all over you.

bevin
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bevin

“Straw is a good example of everything obnoxious.”

notheonly1
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notheonly1

For various apparent reasons, I would call them The Seven Degenerates And of course I have very good apparent reasons. Here they are not in order of importance: 1) The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. You could object that we are not living on planet Vulcan. But that won’t change one iota of its powerful truth. In that, The Seven Despicables are only interested in their own faring well. Damned be the plebs, the dumbed down masses. Their move is one of a fascist mind – forever believing to be better than anybody else, especially… Read more »

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

Great style! And content. Time to get down and get dirty, even if Jeremy doesn’t (and shouldn’t feel he has to) approve of such impoliteness. But that aside: as Henry Bolte (I think), who was once a rough and tumble Premier (I think) of Victoria (I think)–I’ve got an unused spell-checker button, can I repurpose it as a fact-checker button?–once said, “If your opponent lives life in the gutter, the only place you can take him on is in the gutter.”

lundiel
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How about “The Seven Psychopaths”.

Shardlake
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Shardlake

Certainly not the seven pillars of wisdom.

del
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del

Fake’s 7; globalist, pro EU ,for open border immigration; NOT democratic.Chukka fukka & his band of quislings.Labour is well rid of you.Bliar will no doubt announce his new party very soon…

Makropulos
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Makropulos

“Fake’s 7” is good. But only for those who remember tacky 70s sci-fi programmes.

del
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del

Blake’s 7 is a tv classic! NOT tacky! The contemporary poltical landscape increasingly resembles the Orwellian federation…

Makropulos
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Makropulos

Sorry del. I do remember B7 with fondness. It had a witty script. And of course sexy Servalan. But I’m guessing most of the folk here won’t know what it is.

mark
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mark

The Gang Of Seven will go the same way as the Gang Of Four of the 70s. They did at least try to form a party and stand in elections till they came in tenth behind Screaming Lord Sutch, and realised that the game was up. (Lord Sutch, quite magnanimously in my view, offered to merge the Monster Raving Loony Party with the SDP.) This bunch of no hopers are motivated by the very real fear that Corbyn could actually win an election in the near future and form a government. May is a distinctly uncharismatic political hack, leading a… Read more »

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

Labour won’t win the next election, 7MPs just left and there will be more. They’ll help get another Tory government, which is what this bunch really are.

mark
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mark

That’s the plan. Whether it works out that way is another matter. Like Labour was going to be annihilated at the last election. Like Trump could never be elected. Like Brexit could never happen. Things that can’t happen have a way of happening.

Makropulos
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Makropulos

As Tuli Kupferberg of The Fugs said: “Nobody who lived through the ’50s thought the ’60s could’ve existed. So there’s always hope.”

lundiel
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What’s your point If you agree they are really Tories? New candidates will represent Labour at the next election and they (neoliberal splitters) will either stand as independents or as part of a new party, or join an existing party.

Einstein
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Einstein

Labour will win a landslide victory, like Attlee in 1945.
With the B’liarite cancer excised, this is even more likely.

Some Random Passer-by
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Some Random Passer-by

I can’t share you optimism. Take my local PPC, Fran Boait. The more you dig, the more it stinks. Think tank membership, large donations from a shady organisation, bullsh1t PR description, running for multiple parties and a parent in yet another…

I’m trying to think of the many, but this stinks!

del
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del

As a rule of thumb,the globalist pod people in politics have a similar M.O. ; Look for links to “common purpose” & funding from Soros/Zionist companies

Haltonbrat
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Haltonbrat

But these and other MPs who leave will not be elected at the next election.

Bob Marsden
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Bob Marsden

Peter Mandelson: “Why do you want to just walk away and pass the title deeds of this great party over to someone like Jeremy Corbyn? I don’t want to, I resent it, and I work every single day in some small way to bring forward the end of his tenure in office. “Something, however small it may be – an email, a phone call or a meeting I convene – every day I try to do something to save the Labour party from his leadership.” – Guardian 21 Feb 17 He began before the first leadership election by characterising Corbyn… Read more »

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Some Random Passer-by

My biggest regret of my short time as a Labour party member was picking Watson as deputy.

My (mistaken) belief was that he would be the Ying to Corbyns Yang.

Since thought about Thornberry, but she’s recently revealed herself a war monger harpy too…

del
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del

Watson is wanker to Corbyn’s winker…

Maggie
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Maggie

Brilliant name for the breakaways, The Antisocialist Party…. or The Secret Seven. soon to be joined by Kinnock, Mandelson, Owen, Angela Eagle, Yvette Cooper, Hilary Benn, Tom Watson, Sunny Hundal, David Schreider, Mathew Stradler and Thangham Debonair. Who as far as I can see, have worked tirelessly to bring Jeremy Corbyn down. I can’t wait for all the parties to fracture completely. Then at the next election NO ONE ‘PARTY’ will have a majority, and there will have to be a coalition… which in effect will be the same as the Socialist Government of Russia. Where everyone takes part, and… Read more »

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mark

Blair and Mandelson have been hawking themselves around Brussels for months, inciting Verhofstadt and Juncker to be as intransigent as possible, in the hope of a 2nd referendum and sabotaging Brexit. Treasonous scum.

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

“Blair and Mandelson have been hawking themselves around Brussels for months, inciting Verhofstadt and Juncker to be as intransigent as possible…”

Well that would have been a 5-minute pushover. What did they do the rest of the time? Go shopping on the Avenue Louise?