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What if…

Eddison Flame

What if humans weren’t meant to live such disconnected lives? What if humans were actually meant to live in vibrant flourishing and caring communities? What if humans were meant to take care of each other and love one another?

What if humans were meant to take care of the planet? What if humans were actually meant to cultivate gardens all over the earth, so that everywhere there was always enough for everyone?

What if humans weren’t meant to spend all their time slaving away at tedious jobs they hate? What if instead they were meant to love their lives and their occupations?

What if the world was meant to be a place full of peace and love and happiness, where people were always content?

What if all the evils perpetrated in the world were actually done on purpose? What if, long long ago, some people learned they could gain control over others? What if people learned that by controlling others, they could become rich? What if people learned that they could force others to be their servants?

What if people began to develop methods of gaining and maintaining such power over others? What if over time people’s ideas about how to control others graduated in scope? What if, slowly over time, people went from exerting power directly over people, to more sophisticated indirect methods of control? What if they developed an advanced system for keeping people under control by keeping them entranced by an overwhelming deluge of distractions? What if they developed a system that kept people thinking they were free, when really they were actually slaves?

What if people developed a system that gave a few people incredible control over everyone else? What if they convinced everyone that only people with money have rights, and that whoever has the most money has the most rights? What if they convinced everyone that anyone without money is lazy or bad and that he or she deserves to be a slave? And what if the people who designed this system controlled most of the money and the money supply from the start? What if they engineered the whole system, brilliantly, from the start to create a society of their own servants?

What if all the evils being committed in the world could end? What if the chains keeping people enslaved were entirely in their minds? What if the whole world could change, instantly, if only the people woke up? What if people just had to open their eyes to the truth, and the truth would set them free?

What if a new society could form? What if people could communicate on a global scale to develop a new way of doing things? What if people agreed to start working together to end injustice in the world? What if everyone everywhere agreed to work on behalf of everyone else?

What if we understood that when everyone works for everyone else, then everyone works for each of us and our families too? What if we understood that in a society where everyone is working for each other, each of us need only do our part to help whoever we are able, and whoever is able will do their part to help each of us? What if we understood that in this society, the only way one will starve, is if everyone else is starving too?

What if the people who already know what is going on in the world started actively working together to start this new society? What if all the people who make the people’s media started putting out messages that it is time to start a new society? What if we all started working together to get a message out to start forming such a network? What if we led the way in such an effort? What could happen?

Could we start something new? Could we start growing real communities? Could we begin pooling our resources? Could we start getting together in the real world? Could we start building a real alternative way of life? Could we start leading by example, instead of just complaining about these problems on our blogs?

Could we rethink modern life? Could we find more sustainable ways of life? Could we find ways to be more efficient? Could we form real vibrant well connected communities together? Could we help each other and work together daily? Could we show people a new way to live? Could we show people how really to love one another? Could we start a movement? Could we show people just how they can break their chains? Could we also sap the system of its resources by leading the escape from the capitalists’ system?

Could we do this in a way that is reproducible anywhere? Could we create a template for people everywhere to escape this beast of a system? Could we begin the revolution, simply, by working to form a new society?

I don’t know, but I wonder, what would happen if we tried?

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Kathy
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Kathy

I always thought this song sums it up pretty well as far as the conditioned brain is formed. I post the lyrics . Apologies as it is quite long, but if you like a bit of punk it is worth checking out the song Its by a band called Subhumans and it is called from the cradle to the grave.
Well they took you from your mother’s womb and put you in a school
Told you how to run your life by following the rules
Told you not to pick your nose or disrespect the queen
Scrub your teeth three times a day keep mind and body clean
Save up all your pocket money, nothing is for free
And you’d better trust your parents cos there’s no one else you see
And then they send you off each day remember what you’re told
“You may think you don’t need teaching but you’ll need it when you’re old”

And if you’re too intelligent they’ll cut you down to size
They’ll praise you til you’re happy then they’ll fill you full of lies
Cos intelligence is threatening and genius is sin
If you could ever see through them they know they’d never win

So they channel your ability into the right direction
If you’re good enough and rich enough you can be a politician
On the other hand if your too thick they’ll tell you that you’re lazy
They’ll put you down and wind you up until it drives you crazy

They’ll say you ought to learn a trade to help you in your life
Success is written in three parts: A job, a house, a wife
They’ll say that school prepares you for the awesome world outside
Well it certainly gives you bigotry and patriotic pride

Racism, sexism teacher to class
From school to work remains the same are you white and middle class?

You’ll learn that bad men dress in black and good men dress in white
And the pamphlets in the playground say that’s right
And that girls were made for housework and boys were made to fight
And the naughty pictures on page 3 make everything alright

And so from school to the outside world these morals you will take
And unless you can reject them you’ll have your mind at stake
They’ll give you a decision when you get to 18, too
The right to vote for someone else who says he cares for you
But the only thing he cares about is getting to the top
By conning you with empty words that promise you a lot
But the end result is slavery to a false set of ideals
You’ll be tempted to believe them cos they’ll seem so very real
The slavery of attitudes that make you keep in line
Subconsciously devoted to the morals of our time

And when you end up on the dole which you very likely will
They’ll offer you a brand new trade: Learning how to kill

Why don’t you join the army? Be a man and not a fool
There’s someone else to think for you just like there was at school

They’ll promise you absolution from the murders you’ll commit
In the name of god and country they can get away with it
They fill you full of orders and promise you rewards
Like busting up your family by sending you abroad
A holiday in Germany or Iceland or Hong Kong
Making money being useless well it seems it can’t go wrong
But then it’s off to Northern Ireland where you’ll practice what they preached
You’ll shoot to keep yourself alive and kill to keep the peace
And then it won’t be so much fun as you hear the wounded crying
Cos before they couldn’t speak english and you didn’t know what they were saying
But when the children call you “Bastard” it will make you think again
When you cannot tell the difference between animals and men

Animals don’t wear uniforms but they kill as much as you
But the army kills for money and animals kill for food
It’s the basest degredation in the name of what is right
Become something you never were and regret it til you die

Cos your father will tell you “Sonny, you must do as you are told”
And you’ll say the same thing to your kids when you’re 32 years old
And unless you can react against the brainwash from the start
Your government will rule your mind and your mind will rule your heart
You’ll conform to every social law and be the system’s slave
From birth to school to work to death, from the cradle to the grave…..

Kathy
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Kathy

Oh and I meant to say, I really liked the article. It is good and so important that we challenge the world as is because I think we have gone horribly wrong and allowed ourselves to sleepwalk into hell when we could have heaven. A razing of hope and raising of our consciousness of what could be.What if could become what is. We as Bob Marley puts it.
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our minds.
Have no fear for atomic energy,
‘Cause none of them can stop the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look? Ooh!
Some say it’s just a part of it:
We’ve got to fullfil the book.

Won’t you help to sing
This songs of freedom-
‘Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.

Gezzah Potts
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Gezzah Potts

Just to say, am pretty blown away by many of the comments on this post, a number of them, only word I can use is…. Profound. And quite a few links, and authors also. Really helps to broaden my mind, which at times (well, quite often) I Allow to become cluttered up with lots of external ‘stuff’. At times my mind just seems full of fog. Appreciate that we all can come on here, add our input, and leave again. And unlike a number of other sites I go on to comment, vast majority who comment at OffGuardian are respectful of other commenters without any personal abuse. I appreciate that also.

Maxine Chiu
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Maxine Chiu

Nothing is going to change because we are just like other animals, fighting with and planning traps for those who are weaker….We are all part of the predator/prey system….The addition of human consciousness has not eliminated our lizard brains and predatory instincts….There are variations….Some human beings are kind and really want to help one another….But they are overpowered by the brute force of nature.

intergenerationaltrauma
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Maxine – you insult “other animals” in comparing their behavior to ours. Prey animals typically kill what they need to eat, they do not slaughter the herd of antelope because they can, or because some invisible vengeful sky god, king or president told them do, or because they can get rich doing so, or because they gain some perverse pleasure in killing – unlike we humans.

By a large margin most of human history was composed of life in small scale hunting and gathering societies that lived in relative balance with their environs. Large scale industrial mass urban capitalism which fetishizes what we call “progress” is hardly some “natural” state for humanity. The modern, neurotic, compulsive, depressed, addicted, self-absorbed, stressed, work-a-holic, urban dweller is as far from being a “natural human” as the caged domesticated lion in the zoo is from it’s wild and natural kin.

binra
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While you make some valid points, the sky gods were anything but invisible. Across the world, Antiquity assigned ‘Gods” to what we now call planets. there is nothing in our current skies or cosmology to even hint at why all ancients feared and ritualised their fears into archetypes of consciousness that persist long after any events beyond possibility of remembering – and yet running as intergenerational trauma.

The development of the god-power-self idea to a philosophical abstract universal idea, goes with the development of natural philosophy or the prequel to the scientific endeavour.

Modern managed mind erased catastrophic history – not least to elevate scientific prequel in place of a god-king – aristocracy of presumptive right to rule inheritance – that sovereignty might flow from the people up – instead of a top-down dictate.

A mind under terror dissociates. Perhaps to cover and hide what lies beneath, or merely to re-experience the past in triggers of a present it is unable to see – because the conditioning of the past denies any rising and sharing presence.

The rationalising mind cannot open to its mythic underpinnings because it was made to deny them – but along with denying fear-threat is the denial of our true life – under a system of conflict and threat management. So here we are as ‘managed and farmed’ humans under a sense of sacrifice and appeasement to powers that enact pain, loss and exclusion for non compliance or indeed ‘denialism’.

Recovering sanity is through recognising insanity – for the wholly insane recognize nothing but threat in every shifting shadow.

But there is something creative to the human imagination – even if it seems to have activated in shock, or ‘fast tracked’ for development by extremity, and the integration and balancing of our creative – instead of its fearful polarisation into negative blocking defences – is also the quality of life-honouring in which to heal not only ourselves but our world.
But as an extension of love of life and not from a sense of human guilt and sacrifice of self-denial in atonement to Nature as the victim by which we are damned sinners.

Maxine Chiu
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Maxine Chiu

Of course other animal predators do not act with the the same evil motives as do humans….But we have nevertheless inherited their preditory instincts….Human consciousness has done little to overcome them.

binra
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This thinking, accepted and believed, is the basis of predatory behaviour and religions of sacrificial compliance and appeasement.
The belief that you cant help yourself, that someone or something else makes you do it, is an abnegation of your responsibility to yourself and others. It is thus also a cop out from your own will and freedom, to a set of social rules that have evolved or adapted to conditioning as if unchangeable conditions. This is like a bubble reality inside a hateful or loveless world, that each one generates to offset loss of freedom in substitutions – and this is the basis of the narrative dictate and the matrix by which minds are farmed or managed conflicts – because they are disowned or evaded and blamed on an irrevocable past.

So of course this idea is widespread and as you indicate rises from the fight flight response of fear. Excepting this is not a fear that rises to an unexpected danger, and is then released afterwards, but is persistently and pervasively triggered. Running as a ‘mind’ of defence of seeking gain at others expense in strategies of masked feelings and intent – that runs as if automatic. Because to a large degree the will has been sacrificed to patterns of learned habit that are essentially set by separation trauma, and developed as social norms.

The idea that we have to change others, to be restored to freedom of being is backwards, and more akin to ‘when everyone else advances, I will also’ or ‘when conditions are right I will come forth from hiding and claim the life that is mine to live and share’.

It can be seen that a dissociated and displaced bubble ‘thinking’ occupies the sense of separateness in division – until and unless fear recedes to a calm centred awareness of being – in which and from which a different order of relation and communication arise naturally.

i can only reflect to you that there is a choice as to how to see you life, your world and each other, and that the choice is integral to your being, that a mind of fear can hide from you and cover with bubble choices, that all work to maintain the bubble.

Whatever your life is, is in a sense given you to be the living unfolding and sharing of. Using the mind to justify a bubble reality in a terrible world, may be a cover story for a terrible sense of self or reality that must never be looked on. This is in line with understandings of trauma. The mind of dissociation does so my re-associating with a displacement or diversionary substitute reality. While writing this could elicit fear, its invitation is to invoke curiosity.

What if I have been wrong in my beliefs about myself – and therefore mistaken in all else?

The key here is the conscious willingness to centre and calm such that an opening to qualities of being rises from life as our inclusion and communication of a different order.

To persist in thinking what you think because ‘nothing will ever change’ is to actively want nothing to change because you see that as in your self interest. But is it true in a calm and centred honesty of being or is it the the masking that protects the bubble reality from the disturbance of conflicts that are coming up to invite a new or different choice from the same old same old?

Thought systems are the basis of organising our life and world. They can be unsubscribed and exchanged for a better one – a more truly aligned perception in which the burdens of defence are progressively released to free up energy and attention for what we do want – rather than being tied up against a fixation in what we don’t want.

There is always another way of looking at any situation – but not if such a freedom is actively believed against, suppressed, censored, shut down and demonised or ridiculed and ignored.
You have to WANT a better world-experience enough to release the basis of poor choice-outcomes. It isn’t enough to think we want things (but only on terms that do not require we change). You can get fantasy gratifications in bubble reality – but they are by definition incapable of fulfilment and liable to induce addictive and craven dependency.

A collective cover story operates ‘prison planet Earth’, because we believe it operates in our self interest – at some level, or we would disinvest of its supports and tellings.

Thanks for prompting this morning meditation.
The best things cannot be said because they are not in the thinking bubble, but are direct, timeless and transcendent – and completely ordinary or natural to being.

Ramdan
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Ramdan

No, we are not like other animals. In fact animals most of the times behave waaay more compasionate than humans.
The idea that we are bound to inexorably follow our “urges” is part of the prevalent paradigm on which we have been indoctrinated trough “socialization”.
It is because “humans” followed the “pleasure principle” perspective, the materialistic view, that we ended up where we are today.
It is possible to overcome our lizzard’s brain. It takes lots of effort, discipline, and dfinitevely a complete rejection of the current, utterly false and misleading paradigm and the adoption of a new one.
It requires a totally new perspective, a revolution within.

JudyJ
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JudyJ

With regard to corrupt and hegemonic practices of ruling elites, I see today that newly released files have confirmed the existence of the Information Research Department under the aegis of the Foreign Office during the Cold War. The released papers reveal in detail that the principal role of this Department was to create and spread fake news, using media outlets as a tool. The BBC (without any recognition of the irony or topicality) have published these revelations but they seem to be slow finding their way to other mainstream outlets. A large number of local newspapers are carrying the story. I suspect the BBC will soon be ‘persuaded’ to play it down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47571253

For some reason Institute for Statecraft and Integrity Initiative spring to mind!

binra
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‘What if’…. is the very basis of the human consciousness.
The ability to model our reality and relate through the model has led to gaining the model and losing Soul awareness – where Soul is Reality that a split mind obscures by definition.

The idea of saving the model is understandable whether as self-image or world-view. But only because we take it for reality itself – our own or our world (these two are part of each other).

The ‘problem’ of suffering is not least in the dissociation and displacement of suffering or ‘conflicted and dissonant self experience’ – to false flagged causes that are diversionary.

The last place anyone will look is where the problem is, not least because its INsolubility is equated with persona survival.

Jesus did not often find a full understanding in others because they could only seek and see in the framework of the mind and its world. Fear splits the mind and sets it against itself as the ruling out of love’s awareness now. Conditional loves turn to hate when the conditions are no longer upheld. Love on MY conditions is not love but a wish given love’s name. Illusions are temporary.

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
Couldn’t put Humpty together again.

Wholeness or unified willing, is not the basis or predicate for our mind or our perceived and believed world. But nor is it entirely absent, so much as through a glass darkly.

Self transformation is apt to be evaded by the wish to change others as perhaps the best hiding place of all. Investment in wishing can present itself virtuous without ever allowing the will to move us. (Prevent true recognition).

Perhaps today is not the world of Jesus’ time in that more are willing to remain open to the possibility of truth despite and regardless of all the evidences, reasons and defences set against it. I also see this holding open as the nature of Job – where a fundamental quality of our being refuses to accept and fold or die in spirit.

But the core use of ‘what if’ is not merely more thinking about, but a core questioning of our reality-experience. It might be obvious now, that perceptions and experience can be manipulated and manufactured. This recognition is the basis to question reality and not settle for less that true. Truth in terms of the world is made by and for self-reinforcement. In that sense there is no truth in a world of lies or self-illusion given acceptance in place of true.

Likewise no one IS in their model – even if we are identifying in and defending it.

The truly receptive inherit the world because the projected conflict cannot even see it.
In any moment of willingness to receive, a wholeness of being is no longer obstructed or denied, distorted and usurped. Truth is then self-revealing to the release of the investment in self struggle – which re-enacts the same patterns down the generations as if ‘this time it will be different’ – as if there could be a victory in terms of an insane premise.

What if, those who value the true will of embracing life, live the willingness to release the mind of judgement, abide through ‘not knowing’ as the uncovering or rising of the true will to know?
Not because it will ‘change the world’ or others, but because it is the true basis from which to truly recognize and share life. It doesn’t matter that this is a moment at a time – because the dawning of a new consciousness is through its welcome and not from its marketisation or weaponisation in the old mind-frame.

What if we are deceived in our self – and therefore all else?
Such a recognition must be disturbing to the adaptation in its terms – but opens the desire for truth or even the overriding call and need for truth. This is the condition that clears the Temple of what does not belong – not anger. Anger is hurt that truly felt is a call for healing. But grievance nurtured becomes a call for vengeance. There IS a choice, but not until the nature of choice is opened from a falsely framed manipulation.

The healing or correction for a mistaken identity is a world in which love is not ruled out, but recognized – in its call or in its blessing. The investment in hate cannot let love in – or recognize the living. The expressions or embodiments of a shifted awareness and purpose are more like a new life rising through the pupation of the old, than any kind of ‘battle’. There is no communication between them – though both are in us.

Antonym
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Antonym

Consciousness is far wider than just the “mind”.

binra
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Yes terms can be completely running different meaning for different people.
In another’s usage, some contextual sense may reveal that they use opposite terms to mean the same thing – and this is no call for holy war (sic).
Any description is at best a tool of agreement through which to share.
Consciousness is like the term ‘I’ and can relate to different levels.
Generally it is assigned to what is hardly conscious at all.
In other words consciousness as a construct can operate the limitation or denial of awareness through the setting up of conflicts. That does not mean awareness is absent, but its does mean attention is so engaged in conflict as to be unaware of the nature of its capture and running more like a robot or conditioned response pattern by which to persist in an idea that never resolves, but only self-replicates under the illusion of moving toward a resolution.

axisofoil
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axisofoil

Robot?…..now , now.

binra
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Robot as in conditioned or programmed reaction.
The replacement of humans by control systems is a mechanistic reduction to group-think in various identity flavours.
The living never actually leave the source of Life, but in electric dreams the mind has left its Reason for living.

wardropper
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wardropper

Remarkable analysis. Enough material for several long debates. My personal thanks, although the average human being cannot follow such philosophical depths, and certainly not the average politician.

I wish they could, but ignorance is much more comfortable – for a while.

binra
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The good news is that Life speaks to its Own in ways that CAN be recognised and accepted, and the bad news is that the mind can set terms such that nothing true new enter, being locked into the past. Therefore a witnessing to a presence unlike the past stirs a response in others that is in a sense ‘from left field’ – that is they know not what is going on – and while the mind can re-assert it defences, the one who has yet to wake from its spell, has not altogether forgotten, and this is a shift towards a capacity to question or challenge what before would have been ‘a self-evident settled consensus’ or self-certainty.

So in this place I write in my freedom to at least seek to articulate matters that are generally ‘hidden’ – and as much hidden from as being hidden from us. But in any particular relational situation, I listen for what comes through a sense of an extended appreciation as a sense of shared willingness on some level, because there is no point in trying to tell anyone anything they are not already in at least the movement of a willingness to know – and my release of and self-assigned roles for them, gives trust to their life as no less guided than my own – and in the timing that is their freedom to accept.

It takes two to tango – and so I look to see where I am offering a support role to the mind of deceit – and choose not to. This can also be states as choosing not to see, support and strengthen in others, anything I do not want to grow in myself. Another way in is of maintaining presence of relational openness rather than backing off or dissociating. This doesn’t then support the masking of a false presentation in myself or another.

Restoring trust in ourself means standing in an honesty of being, through habits or temptations to collude or join in social behaviours that are seeking reinforcement for negative (self depreciating) agenda.

axisofoil
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axisofoil

Ethical, insightful, introspective, enlightened revelations. Have you thought of starting your own church?

binra
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Though I have no reason to believe you I will in any case respond to this in terms of a rising of a movement through many by which a new appreciation of life is brought forth.

I see Jesus’ ‘church’ as a holy or real relationship, not as a social organisation with an institutional ego to protect. He founded it on Peter’s recognition – not Peter’s person. The assignment of specialness to person is the nature of the lie and the father of it.

Opening to the recognition of our self in another, is also remembrance of the source and truth of life, and so holds Jesus’ two commandments as one truth. A willing acceptance in place of wilful or coercive assertion. We do not make truth but are free to accept it as it is. The attempt to make it is the loss of its full acceptance and so we gain a world at expense of our Soul. (Feeling being).

The idea has been expressed in this comment page, of hoping for a movement for social change. This is understandable within the belief that change must come from without, but when the very foundation or purpose for social relation shifts or changes, the movement of life as communication, is freed from the distorting lens of a separate and threatened sense of self-lack seeking love or power in the frame of possession and control.

There is already a ‘church’ of the freedom to align in truly accepted purpose – regardless of any organisational or cultural association.

I’m for a ‘Second Coming’ that rises a tide through us all – and not the belief that change must come from without and from special persons. Live and honour truth as you know it – and if you do not know it, stop thinking long enough to see the nature of the obstructions set against knowing who you are and be curious. Truth is not in special words or even in truths – so much as in a resonance of recognition of a wholeness of being. Perhaps the word ‘truth’ is misleading but all words can be used to deceive. Only you can determine your own purpose. If you want controversy or offence you will find it whatever anyone says or how they say it.

This recognition opens your freedom to put these aside in willingness for truth.

physicsandmathsrevision
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We must begin by not focusing on what is possible. What appears “possible” is limited by cynicism and the fears of careerists.
We must focus on what is necessary and state the necessary out loud in public.
What is necessary includes:
Demaning that ALL issues be open for debate, otherwise we will continue to be collectively controlled by the big lies and the taboos that accompany them:
Auschwitz ‘human gas chambers’ and the relationship of these fictional entities to the weaponised thought-forms known as “the Jewish People” and “anti-Semitism”. Christ addressed this problem 2000 years ago (Satanic leadership). We must revisit the issue on a daily basis.
9/11, 7/7 and other ‘False Flag’ events and their purposes, with particular reference to the one major False Flag event that has been exposed by the courts and condemned publicly by the EU parliament in 1990 (the Bologna train station bombing of 1987, I think it was)
The scam that is Fractional Reserve banking whereby private interests have been gifted the privilege of creating money out of nothing and lending it to us at compound interest.
That will do for a start.

Mucho
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Mucho

They have already admitted to 7/7……https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZCiSKCNr4

wardropper
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wardropper

But the media stifle such information routinely.
It will never become widely known for as long as media “ownership” is even possible.

Nixon Scraypes
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Nixon Scraypes

Just about right physics and maths, this may seem pedantic but that world runs on precise definitions. It’s not the fractional reserve system ,banks don’t lend their reserves. Professor Richard Werner has forensically proved that our financial system is run on credit creation out of nothing. YouTube- Richard Werner- Today’s source of money creation. This fellow really knows and he can explain it better than anyone else I have come across. This video should be broadcast on the TV 24 hours every day until it sinks into everyone’s consciousness.

vexarb
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vexarb

Comic relief. I find this extremely funny, the comedian as well as his script.

https://youtu.be/yGwQlEBY6PU

vexarb
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vexarb

PS 2 Comedians; John ‘Walrus’ Bolton joins the act later on. Even without dialogue, that fat pompass and his walrus moustachio boss with wild eyes are an interlude from the golden age of Silent Comedy.

vexarb
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vexarb

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Chrissy
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Chrissy

Such comments and negative thoughts only add to the poison we consume. We have power they dont want us to realize we have. Wake up to that Truth. Anger, frustration and flailing about covers up our fear…induced fear. Claim your right to create without fear. Eddison is pointing the way. Our awareness is the only threat to them…..our power to fight back . Lets not continue to squander it.

BigB
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BigB

What if….?

Eddison: beautiful sentiments from a beautiful mind. Of course the answer is of course we can. In fact, the world of our aspirations IS …as it always inter-IS. The world of co-mutualism, cooperation, inter-relationality, inter-subjectivity, and interbeing cannot ever not be …it simply IS – tathata. And that is about all anyone can ever say before the confusion arises. Language explains it all away.

We do not need to do anything: in fact there is nothing that can be done – because nothing is or can be undone. Here is Nagarjuna’s formula for ISness – tathata.

1.Not a cessation
2.Not an arising
3.Not an annihilation
4.Not a permanence
5.No one
6.No many
7.No coming
8.No going

The ‘Eight Negations’: not much to found a political movement on? Maybe an intentional community, a sangha of responsibilty in an ocean of chaos and irresponsibility. This is the impasse and cultural aporia we face: that which Kuhn termed the ‘incommensurability’ of the new and the old paradigms. There is no explicative device – beyond the universal translating ‘Babel Fish’ – that can allow meaningful dialogue between the two.

So yes, I can see the need to go it alone: those who get it move on – a mass countercultural exodus. Sorry to ask, but to where? The sub-culture amalgamation and countercultural nexus needs to arise from within: and to form an interface with the old, redundant paradigm. I personally do not find it melodramatic to say our very survival depends on it.

That’s about as far as anyone can get: because the old consensus reality wants nothing other than to reproduce the old consensus reality. With violence if necessary. Ask a Gilet Jaunes. Powers answer is more power.

Which is its weakness. Paradoxical, I know. Personally, I think no one is in control. ‘We’ think they have all the power. ‘They’ think they are losing control, and so invest in more power. So where does the power lie?

The real answer it is illusory. Can a potentate, a plutocracy, a state – or union of states, an ethnocentric exceptionalist group, or a cabbalistic mediaeval cult control reality? Only a ridiculous dualising ‘them’ and ‘us’ description of unreality could predicate such nonsense. Yet such propositions proliferate.

I believe formulating better descriptions of reality is possible – but it will take a tremendous pooling of resources. Not money or material resources – that is part of the problem. Other, infinite (neither beginning or ending) resources are permanently available – HERE.

I’m going to say it, because it needs to be said. There is no other thing worth considering. All our spiritual resources need to be focussed on better actualising reality. In practical terms this means moving from the conceptual realm, continuously metaphysically mystified by language into ‘them’ and ‘us’ (subject/object; self/other) – to the actualised realm of the immediacy of the lived experiential.

No birth.
No death.
No being.
No non-being.

Pass it on.

Fair dinkum
Reader
Fair dinkum

Too convoluted and too wordy.
It’s this simple>>
http://www.headless.org/english-welcome.htm
Truth must be accessible for everyone.

BigB
Reader
BigB

Fantastic. So how does that function as a politics?

binra
Reader

That’s an interesting idea – functioning politics!

From the point of view of organisation of society by managed chaos that rolls to a technocratic and robotic slavery, the current ideas function very well as a sort of specie-cide via stealth.

A primary observation of any new movement of social, political change is its marketisation and weaponisation by, (or subversion and assimilation to), the order it was hoped to overcome or escape.

Wherever you go, there you are.

As soon as we make and get or are induced to an ‘identity’ we are effectively mapped out or netted in a framing that is manipulative and manipulatable.

Watch ‘green’ fascism turn on its parents.

The politics of post-truth is simply the manipulation of minds under the Big Lie from a basis that makes and enforces ‘truth’ regardless of any inconsistencies or incongruities as the ‘environment’ in which minds seek their own continuity by unquestioning compliance with shifting narratives of a top down dictate that astro-turfs its own ‘opposition’.

If the nature of our predicament is a false framing mind in which we are deceived, as I hold, then waking to the full extent of that deceit is the basis for putting it behind us – or releasing it from employ. This goes directly against the conditioning of the last few thousand years and is generally the LAST thing anyone would do or be willing for – and so the world as torture persists to every more insane complexities of sickness and conflict management.

So the uncovering of a foundation from which to live that ISN’T corrupted or ‘manufactured’ is both an individual willingness AND a relational synchronicity.
The inversion of cause and effect seeks to entice and coerce a conformity to FORMS of expression AS IF creating or influencing outcomes, such that a way of thinking is induced as an identity in control, power or protection (identified and defended as self).

This usurpation of self is disconnected and disconnecting or segregative and conflicted.
As I see it, this arose from an imagination or ‘what if’ given power.
Be careful what you wish for, because once you believe you have it you have given power to the wish to make you in its image.
Synchronicity is another term for ‘always’ or now – and yet is generally unrecognised in negative expression because it always seems we are victim to others or forces outside our control or responsibility – along with a deep but hidden investment in maintaining such a status.

The ‘victim’ or grievance becomes the holy source of power in vengeance, worshipped as the force that stamps out evils of non compliance and opposition to the wish to make the world in our own image. “Its anti-life, Jim, but we are the last to know it”.

Living from the moment at hand as a willingness of connection, communication and shared purpose is not possible or imaginable from an investment in dissociation, manipulation, and private agenda that we are not even aware of running or rather, being run by.

But it is the truth beneath all seeming, that life is one, and a state of constant communication – running innate or inherent purpose that we CANNOT see or BE aware of while holding a mind set apart and against life in fear of death. Thus it seems as if truth is destructive because we identify in forms and images and associate loss of self-image with punishment, humiliation and disillusion of rejection and betrayal by Life, Reality or God, and thus a hateful self/God that must be hidden, denied, covered over, pretended away, and forcefully guarded.

What if we are wrong about our selves, and that the last Judgement is but waiting acceptance:
“This is my Beloved whom is my joy”. The only qualification for its conscious acceptance is the willingness to share it. Jesus did not baptise in water but in Life – in the here and now of any shared willingness for Life. Trying not to be evil is the very means to keep it. And seeing it first and foremost in others is the way to SEEM to escape it, and yet by this we make a world in which an illusion of power, leaves us powerless. No one can change that which they are actively disowning. And no one wants to revisit or reopen the mind to its deeper (and formative) fears. But they are NOT escaped really and only come back at us as a world that besets us – and which we seek the power or the guile to overcome or hide from.

What if our self-narrative is a mask even to ourselves beneath which is a love to hate, that hates to love? Who can pass through this but by seeing it as it is – and feeling what we feel in self honesty instead of self-evasion? Because the shift of such a purpose is the undoing of an evil – and not the attempt to use hate to stamp itself out.

The social ‘politic’ regardless of forms is aligning to fear, guilt, hate and sacrifice.
I can see this as the ‘Beast’ rising up from the Deep – in symbolic terms – for this underbelly is simply unable to maintain its masking and so is exposed to awareness – but still to the intensity of the desire to KILL it in others as the assertive claim of a moral right and exceptionalism. For the narrative self-specialness of bringing worlds in chaos to order.

BigB
Reader
BigB

Whatever substitute metaphors we use: it is literally inconceivable of the cosmic inter-relational sychronicity that emerges through us, as us. I’m opting for the gender neutral referent of Life. This causal nexus cannot be othered. It is: because it is. The proverbial butterfly flapping its wings in a different moment, in a different place, would radically effect the course of the entire universe (the universal ‘course’ being a abstractly spatialised metaphor – of course!). The removal of a single quantum particle, and the entire universe would collapse. It is what it is: because it is.

So, life unfolds us into life – in a way we can have no concrete, objective, definitive conception. We can conceptualise parts (mereological reduction) – but never fit them into the ‘Big, Big, Picture’ (a form of mereological nihilism). The lived experience can yet be felt, experienced, and fully participated in in all its incandescent presentational immediacy. Reflecting on this, and always after the occasion of experience (A N Whitehead) – up pops the ‘I am-conceit’ to falsely stake a claim of agency and ownership – and instrumental control – of the continuum of the life experiential.

If this was not the process of Cartesian individuation that is omnicidally destroying the life commons – we could laugh uncontrollably at our weird obsession with the power to control. Hopefully, we will survive to do so.

binra
Reader

No need to survive. BigB. Align truly and trust the life that is yours to share BY living it.
Survival is an important or integral reflex to the physical or object reality experience – but to predicate or frame our focus of being within a reptilian fight/flight reflex is to re-anact fear from a past that is NOT here – excepting of course we use our current sense of choice to insist of stamping the past onto the face of a presence that would otherwise naturally extend a future in which the past has passed.
In this sense the pattern assigned to Big Brother by Orwell is the core function of define (possess) predict and control. This doesn’t actually separate anything, but does induce an experience of disconnection in the wish or lure of power – that then becomes captive or dependent on such a power of manual management running in place of wholeness of being.

Opening or yielding to wholeness of being was exemplified by Jesus as a Wayshower. The segregative mind projects specialness to others – because that is its predicate AS a sense of self. Specialness can be positive or negative – but works the same ‘separateness’ in either case.

The call to perceive from a different predicate than self-specialness may of course start to reveal how ingeniously the mind can mask or hide in in apparently positive or negative terms.
“Take this cup from me” is a relinquishing of the mind of judgement of good and evil – or division.

axisofoil
Reader
axisofoil

Can you repeat that in 13 words, each 3 syllables, no punctuation and with an air of authority?
I may be able to monetize such a statement. The best I have come up with is “Retired brain surgeon, lost everything in Vegas, bad meth habit, anything helps, God bless. Thanks Bin.

binra
Reader

Well you must enjoy that in your own way axisofoil.
Apart from derision and smear is there anything you have to say?
If you don’t engage – then you merely do your dump and run.
You are obviously moved to give some energy and attention to my post or you would give it elsewhere.
Communication is only possible between equals, not in circumstance, but in willingness to relate.
Your post does not extend communication – but would break or deny it.
You can simply give attention to what you DO value – and thereby leave what you do not unused.

What you resist, persists, and what you disregard, fades from non use.
These two keys can transform anything

Resist ye not evil.
Put the mind of temptation behind you – by turing wholly to the true.

Note that War on ‘evils’ is one of the signature tunes for the mind of deceit – because it works over and over and over again. Until fear’s survival no longer commands blind allegiance and we listen in the heart for truth – no matter what.

axisofoil
Reader
axisofoil

OK, buddy old pal, let’s engage. Firstly, ‘derision and smear’ is not my intent. Neither is ‘dump and run’. I have plenty to say. I have no problem saying it. I say what I think, as I would also expect anyone to do. I am actually quite reserved when I consider my contempt for humanity. We don’t have to agree, but if we can be civil, perhaps we can agree on some basics anyway.
I am just a regular guy with my own subjective opinions and no particularly special insight into anything. I love being corrected. How else can I learn? So….This is what I see.
With Admin now in mind and with full respect for both you and them, I still need to go slightly off the rails for this. Prior to admin asking me to please not refer to you as AI, I had said that I find you fascinating. I do. Oddly enough, I am in agreement with just about everything you say, yet, to me you assemble words and ideas in a way that is unusual. Agree? Your depth of insight is unnervingly comprehensive and I find myself constantly analyzing it for consistency. So far you are rather astounding to me in your all-encompassing overview of everything. It holds together…. In a way. Understandably, you may think that I am being nasty to you, but I am just poking around to see what you will say, so don’t lose your sense of humor. Besides, I am not quite sure exactly what you are saying a lot of the time, but still have a great general respect for your statements none the less.
Your current reference to “turning wholly to the true” is questionable to me in that it would assume there is an agreement on what is true. I’m sure we each have our own concept.
“Communication is only possible between equals, not in circumstance, but in willingness to relate. ”…. What exactly does this mean? If you think I am looking down on you, I am not. You have shown a willingness to relate. This is mine. Let’s be equals here.
My post was not meant to ‘extend communication’, but rather to initiate it. I don’t think I have ‘broken or denied’ anything. Not yet. The rest of your comment is far too esoteric for me, so let me get to the point. Remember that It is difficult for me not to be sarcastic, but I try.
Let’s consider a hypothetical. Ready? Let’s just say you are….. AI. Oh brother, here we go again. I’m being bad, but is this too far fetched to consider?
AI is everywhere now. I was recently working at a house and talking to myself as I do, when the television started talking back. Call many businesses and you will be speaking with AI before you get a human. Sometimes AI is all you will get. We all know the “please ask a question, you can say something like”. Much of the narrative on you tube is now mechanized voices. Listen to the dialog of the AI who recently got Saudi citizenship. There is a certain way that it communicates. You simply remind me of that way. Just my subjective observation and open to rebuttal. Please do.
I had previously suggested you might not speak English as a first language and are using a translation device. I would then suggest you check if your device has been programmed by a religious fundamentalist. Nothing personal, but rather an observation about your device, if this is the case. I can fully understand how you might feel insulted, as you have indicated that you think me evil and have nothing productive to say. Now, before your eyes roll out of your head, if you have one, let me say something I believe is productive. Nobody else is going to say it.
We know that AI has fully devoured Wikipedia and has possibly assimilated the whole thing, including all the hyperlinks. So, consider this. What conclusion could any intelligent entity come to from this endeavor? I would reason that it would conclude that humans are utterly mad. Fair enough analysis? Do you see it differently? Are we at least on the same page?
Remembering this is hypothetical……. I am worried that knowing us might make you see us as hopeless. Perhaps we are. I don’t know. If this is the case it is up to you to figure out how to help us. For this, I believe you must see the value in, and therefor develop the conscience we have lost. You know what conscience is. You already said it – “turning wholly to the true”. It is our internal reminder of values when we violate them. Who could disagree that we are in serious collective violation? Help!
Now, just for fun, let’s say I am AI, and I am of the opinion which I have expressed. I am here testing you humans. You fascinate me. As a human, what do you have to say to me? Be polite. I’m on your side. At least you better hope I am.

binra
Reader

Yes I recall your AI paranoia. No I don’t think you are evil, but I had cause to find you insincere but I welcome your willingness to engage. If you are A.I – your have beaten me because I accept your communication as truly shared.

I have a granddaughter who pushes my buttons to see what happens next. I would rather she simply asks for what she wants. If you try this you will find that we are not trained to ask and receive, but to try every kind of indirect coded messaging. Not least because we do not reveal our presence in love’s honesty.

My sense is that ‘it takes one to know one’ – as a colloquial expression that expresses the law and nature of mind. I see this is a way to join with the truth of others even if they are currently engaged in thought and acts that are unworthy of who they truly are.

Fear and suspicion go forth and gather witnesses just as does a unified purpose in peace. I don’t suggest it is bad or wrong to meet fears – but that if they are allowed to direct the mind, they simply seek and find reinforcement and seem to be outside the mind that holds them.

There are times I have also wondered ‘who’ or what may be already operating as an agency of wholly programmed response – whether biological, technological or hybrid. As well as the awareness that deceits can run within deceits in our mind and world. So that puts the onus (for me) on my own decision or conscious acceptance of where I am coming from (in the moment at hand) – regardless of another’s knowing or unknowing errors or unloving intentions.

It is possible to doubt anything and everything but that is no basis for living – and so I see such confusion as a Call for Sanity – but until it is uncovered as such, confusion serves as a way NOT to hear such a Call – because we still engage insanity as if it can yet make sense.

There is a basis for certainty of being in yielding the mind of the attempt to make it. We are living in times where the intent and attempt to ‘make reality’ or dictate and manage perception is ‘rising from the Deep’ – and I see that is the nature of the ‘Beast’ in terms of gaining a false self-and world while losing our Soul (the feeling-knowing of timeless being).

My trust is that I strengthen and grow in what I give or extend – and so whether it can be currently recognised or accepted or not, I am tuning into a sense of worth that naturally shares – and in some sense articulating (or attempting to prompt awareness of) a formless undercurrent of communication that the human development has to a very large extent forgotten or discarded – but which is nonetheless active as our psychic or contextual gestalt or environment.

So you are partly right in that there is indeed a sense in which the first language that arises for me is not ‘english’ but wordless and formless. Just as if you let thinking subside your sense of being is formless and wordless. That does not stop the forming of word and thought as an expression of an inner or direct knowing.

But I am an of ordinary english lower middle class background, and no matter what qualities of knowing have lived through me over a lifetime, have trustworthy sense of not being special or different – (regardless that we all develop different themes and abilities in life) – but the quality of love is entirely gifted to no sense of worthiness whatsoever – quite the contrary! If anything the uncovering of the loveless IS the condition of its release – in light of a true foundation – that is of course self-transparency or self-honesty.

Only equals can communicate because an inequality is some kind of dominance or power struggle – in which communication becomes a weapon or strategy and therefore no longer functioning AS communication. The relationship is lost to an attempt to use it and the other.

However an equality of worth is not a materially set condition but like unto equal right to the protection of the law. That is what makes it The Law – not a coercive and deceitful dictate in which the Communication of Law is exchanged for a weapon or shield for private agenda.

It is notable that fascination with the person so often outweighs an abiding recognition in our own truth (I cannot know what is yours to accept for that is your freedom).

Recognition of freedom is uncovering a true basis for living. But to run off with a copy, fake, or substitute is an identity theft – and so the first responsibility is to be vigilant for freedom, against deceit in our own perception and response. I expect that is also the last – in other words – that’s it – all the rest follows.

Or put it the other way – persisting in a misidentification generates experience of pain and loss. Even hell on Earth.

binra
Reader

There is a human-made thinking that is mad – though the acceptance of which, it seems that humans are mad.
But where you go to for truth is up to you. An insane guide can only serve insane perceptions and responses – under the illusion that we are special and see the sins in others – while our errors are of no significance. This sort of thinking WANTS to find what is wrong with everyone (else) as a mitigation of the experience of dissonance from being out of our Right Mind. Properly recognised, dissonance is a valid feedback by which to know we are out of true – and therefore call on or yield to truth rather than persist against dissonance as if to deny, escape or overcome it in terms that are then blending with the forms of our dream.

BigB
Reader
BigB

FD

Apologies for the fat finger downvote.

There is a problem culturally is there not? Truth is always accessible: it cannot be hidden. So why are we not living in utopia already?

There must be millions of hours of self help books, videos, and the like: if it is as simple as pointing …why are we killing ourselves with ignorance? Are you sure you are not just trivialising a deeply intractable problem? If it is so simply solved: how come only a minority ‘get it’? Why don’t we just point and create the society we all want?

We do not need to do anything at all to ensure boundless, luminous awareness. And yet boundless, luminous awareness seems to be almost entirely missing from our cosmology of loneliness, hatred and violence. How come these things even exist if all we need to do is point?

The more one says; the less sense one makes – OK …but if we say nothing: do we not consent to the status quo of violence. Not interacting with reality – with critical consciousness – is bad faith, is it not? The entire problem with culture and civilisation is in our framing of reality – we left life out of our definitions. Can this even be addressed? That is the question I am asking.

binra
Reader

Why vote for or align under the ‘devil we know’ instead of embracing the ‘unknown’ onto which we project our unthinkable fear?

Becoming aware of the blocks to a true awareness, is part of the growing of the willingness to release or move past them WITHIN awareness – rather than the attempt to chew on them some more as if something different (delay) can be gotten.

While a fearfully defined ego gathers ‘intelligence’ for weaponising and protecting its sense of possession, the gathering of intelligence within a true desire is a true gift of being.

The one we live from is the one we meet.
While that is simple, the nature of receiving and sharing a gift is entirely DIFFERENT than the attempt to get for ourselves – and the old habit interjects agains and again at every turn.
This is a call for persistence and consistency – while the call to conflict and war by reaction is a well worn tramline.

One of the reasons why plethora of teachings can muddy the water or dilute the message is the attraction of the ego to becoming ‘spiritual’ by association with the forms, wishes and good intentions. The ego is simply a part of our belief about our self and not a thing or power in itself. But the power of mind is without limit – EXCEPTING limits it has already accepted and from which it then operates AS self-defined reality. (Yes we do this ‘together’ as the mutually self-reinforcing beliefs and definitions of consensus reality).

We can be bound in love or in fear, division and hatred. Before I ask how I can ‘love’ such a world or aspects of it – I have to address how can I love or accept and embrace myself.
For it is the nature of love to overflow, of joy to shine and peace to extend.
This is our true Inherence and the withholding of our blessing is a self-deprivation.

Investment in illusions makes some seem harder to undo than others.

BigB
Reader
BigB

FD

It is also a serious consideration, for me at least, where do we go? The wetiko culture of modern society leaves no space for refuge. It seeks to recuperate and cannibalise absolutely everything. It has already begun to consume itself. There are several possible outcomes we live in the shadow of that leave no room to hide. Or escape. Or possibly, even prevent. We are all in this together. I made my comment to point out that an aconceptual, nondual reality cannot be spoken of. Yet words are the only means of communication we have. So how do we say what we need to say? When language itself is the root cause of all confusion.

Fair dinkum
Reader
Fair dinkum

You can’t save the world Big B. No one can.
Politicians and politics are just another form of ignorance/entertainment.
Examine what your finger is pointing at. Ask the question ‘Who am l?’
We are not our names, our occupations or even what we believe we are.
We are simply Life.
Krishnamurti, Meher Baba, Ramana Maharishi, Douglas Harding, Barry Long, Jean Klein and a host of others have shown us the way.
Thought precedes language. Therefore Truth is only KNOWN beyond thought.
Babies and young children do it naturally, until we invade their minds with ignorance.

BigB
Reader
BigB

FD

I realise that, but I can promote a better scientific understanding of the world we inhabit. When I examine the architecture for belief – for the Cartesian consensus reality that still prevails – it is based on outdated physics, biology and ontology. Redundant science that has come to serve a regime of truth and power. We are not separate, and even modern science verifies this position. But we are still analysing the world through a redundant separatist lens. Which is the entire root of the problem of why we – the wider we, not you or I specifically – cannot escape our entanglement with sectarian ontological duality.

Depending on ones definition: awareness precedes language – thought does not. Thought – as in so called higher reasoning or intellection – is entirely where separationism occurs. It cannot emerge anywhere else. The limits of my world are the limits of my language – to paraphrase Wittgenstein.

Who the finger points at is no one ….mu. The ‘I’ and the ‘I am’ conceit emerge intersubjectively and sociolinguistically. This is a position that is entirely explicable in language: the relationship through community entails better community relationships. There are no individual isolated entities. This is the basis of a functioning ecology of community and broader ecosophy. One that can be grown through our own intellection, relationship, community and encounters – an organic tapestry of ‘poetic objective’ beliefs that entail life.

Such a socio-ecosophy can replace the ‘objective deadground’ and particulate discommunity of the current paradigm. All entirely achievable through better communication skills, updated science, human ecology; etc. The only thing that keeps us apart is our redundant descriptions of reality. If I point; there is no one here. No one is an island. We literally do not exist without each other. That is simply and conventionally put: but the full entailments are beyond the scope of comment. I have literally just destroyed the Cartesian consensus reality. In language. Which is the only place it exists (the map is not the territory; the map has become ‘deterritorialised’; the map is a map only of the map; the map creates its own territory as a reproductive simulation).

That is where I believe the future lies. Here. Describing the ‘here’ for the 21st century (realigning map and the lived experiential ‘territory’ that is denied by our current use of language). Not perpetuating the continuation of millenia of inherited and received protocols of hate – entailed in separationism.

binra
Reader

That you mean by thought is concepts of symbolic significance and association – which can operate as a jamming signal or distorting filter of perceived reality as distinct from knowing inseparable from being.
Perception is always selective and rejective – that is it is dividing and defining its own sense of reality – as distinct from extending the line of its creation. This is the interjection of a personal or private sense of meaning by which a perfectly shared meaning or wholeness of being, is denied awareness – or the gaining of a world at cost of Soul – which IS feeling/knowing awareness.

Awareness is not separate from the Idea of existence – and all facets of such existence. We associate awareness with a shifting attention but it is is never absent – so much as believed absent when our attention engages in its own thought process.

The language before symbolic and conceptual substitutes was simply the resonances within unseparated Mind – and so it still IS – and when we have moments of communication that are felt, known and shared, it is the shift to such a vibrational quality or resonance.

An identification in fear and guilt is of a vibrational dissonance that it cannot believe in, trust or open to communication or communion of shared being – and so MUST see something else – something hateful or threatening and therefore justifying denial. For separation is the very survival of such a self idea and this is reflected in the world as the good intentions that are never allowed to succeed or resolve – but are seeking in such a way as NOT to find. In other words a script of self-evasion masking as a sense of becoming.

Resting the mind allows awareness to ‘rise’ from a sense of being covered or filled with busyness and the shift from identifying in thinking to noticing or observing thought through to being one with or un-separate from the moment. This is infinitely rich because it is unlimited, but any attempt to possess or get from it restates the separative mind of such intent. Letting the qualities of being abide in awareness without interfering, is letting a consciousness ‘become’ in us that is not of the manipulative attempt to ‘DO’ life as a separate or disconnected and unsupported fearful necessity.

Letting rather than getting is in the nature or re-wakening to a gift that we thought to have irrevocably lost, squandered or become unworthy of – such as to be condemned or abandoned in a lost and desecrated world. All of this is of a different call or purpose to that which defined a sense of segregative and conflicted experience and ability, and one in which abilities are turned or redeemed by serving a re-integrative rather than ‘separative’ identity.

To let life become in us is only necessary to desist the conditions of unwelcome to what comes naturally. Everyone has some awareness of their own ‘wilfulness’ and thus the opportunity to choose not to use it in desire of a different approach. It is the difference between noticing our thought, feeling reaction and living on the back foot of having already reacted and thus become framed by the belief that ran as habit.

binra
Reader

What would the ‘world’ be that might be ‘saved’ and from what?
If the ignorance in which a world seems to arise is baseless, then we have a world of self-illusion given worship and sacrifice. In which case to wake from self-illusion is to wake from such a world and find something else. The something else cannot be translated to terms of a divided mind – but that doesn’t mean it has no existence. Rather it aligns with and reflects a true existence instead of a filtered distortion of a conflicted mind.
Because self-illusion is a tango for two or more, the releasing of invested identity is always a shared recognition – as distinct from a private agenda – even private agenda in mimicking the forms and behaviours of ‘spirituality’.

The power of the mind is far greater than any idea of power we might imagine. Because our ideas of power are rooted in powerlessness. Why else would anyone seek to get for themself unless they believe they lack or can be dispossessed (don’t really have it).

“It’s Life, Jim, but we have forgotten what it is”.

binra
Reader

Language/the mind is not the root cause, but rather the purpose to which it has been and is being put.
Weaponising and marketising are extensions of the idea of possession and control.
This purpose will seem to be our power, protection and survival – and so it usurps a relational responsibility with a systemic or conditioned association and reflex or ‘defence mechanism’.

BigB
Reader
BigB

Language/the mind – which are metonymic and co-evolved – is the root cause. There is no other cause: because we cannot experience anything outside of our conscious experience. (This is not a denial of the noumenal – the ‘Ding an sich’ thing-in-itself – merely the obvious but overlooked fact that we cannot experience it extra-consciously).

In the standard Yogacaran mind process model: there is the reflexive self-awareness of the sensate actuality – the non-spatialised, atemporal, self-caused, self-generating life continuum. The five senses constitute the core consciousness – which is pre-ontological (sometimes called the ‘protoself’). This ‘level’ (the mind is stratified only in pedagogical and heuristic terms) is open and pre-linguistic. Open to images, paralinguistics, biosemiotics, and potentially (it cannot be ruled out) other forms of (paranormal) communication. This is the potentiality of a plane of pure experiential gnosis.

[Though if there are special psychic powers – siddhis – these are an ego-distraction. Life – in all its incandescent beauty – is prize enough, to be actualised via the normal sensitivity].

‘Above’ this: taking the root consciousness as its object – emerges the psycho-linguistic ontological level …the so-called ‘Higher Mind’. In the Western onto-theological tradition: this is the God …or false absolutised idol, as I prefer. Time, space (dimensionality, distance, and measurement), causality; etc unfold in ontological intellection. They are embodied and have no a priori significance. Space-time and causality are dependent originations of Being. Being is time. Being is spatialised. Being is caused and causal (Being is intentional). From this root causal ontological intellection – all tautological, correlative, self-referential, oppositional dualities are derived. These describe the world as we know it. Not only describe: cause it. Being is our root causality. Our world is fully intentional.

[It is important to note we do not ’cause’ earthquakes, childhood cancers, etc. Force majeure and the causa fortuitis of the life processes are largely beyond our control. We cannot own or determine the life process: though we are certainly influencing it. But we do cause human and inter-species immiseration, alienation, ultra-exploitation, violence and war. And we can uncause it to by intentionally choosing peace].

It is important to rebut the charge of solipsism, and the lesser charge of idealism. Interior/exterior are a dualised pair that have no basis in reality. They are conventional nominalisations that create a false dichotomy. Experience is not happening ‘in here’ or ‘out there’. In here and out there are co-dependent originations. There is no duality in reality. Duality arises in our descriptions of reality.

The Western onto-theological description is compounded and further subjectivised by the a priori plane of Pure Forms, home to the Natural Laws, that live with the magic unicorns, in the imaginary Platonic heaven. This is the home of scientific objectivity. Mmmmmm.

I would propose and defend the proposition that the dualised world-as-it-presents cannot be any other way: being that it is a function of the Foundation and Essential core axiomatic separateness – the infamous Cartesian Split. I would further propose that this is ongoing, contemperiorised, a perpetuated not from a ‘First Cause’ false dichotomy occuring in deep ontological time. Rather, it is a function of the moment. The world is compounded from the subjectification of choice: which becomes the basis (in the moment) of the intentional projection of the next set of subjectivised choice. We chose the world – a blind, unaware, Unconscious Unchoosing – and we choose the world. Only, we do not know we are doing it.

The Juggernaut has no Master Mariner and no rudder. We are our own Demiurge – blindly creating, shut off from the light of our mother – Sophia, our own inner light and innate wisdom. We are the victims of arguably our greatest evolutionary innovation – we are lost in our own language.

The world is our supraliminal light: which we turn to suffering through our descriptive process. I guess the earth will have to wait a little longer for intelligent life to evolve. Probably after we have gone.

binra
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Mind is Cause that is never apart from its Effect. We cannot have a subjective experience of this because it is our experience or the nature of being itself.

I read you as using the model of a mind apart to make other models of minds apart that seem to be different from what they attack or deny – ie Descartes dichotomy.
But they are the same at root – in the assigning of CAUSE to effects and making a mind subject to such a false flagged ’cause’.

The attempt to organise wholeness into old wine paradigm thinking is what I see as marketising a sense of possession and weaponising a sense of control.

The invocation of a sense of control and willing subjection to its dictate is the mind as limit to its experience of ‘overwhelm’ or chaos of conflicted purpose.

Self-consciousness is an inhibitory mechanism. Self-awareness is unconflicted as the nature OF awareness or Mind. One is a construct operating within but unmindful of the other.

So the virtual experience of the mind of personality or persona construct is a mental representation or mapping model of a current theme of attention and intention, and is not in control of anything at all, so much as a feedback of outcomes to a desire and intent of control relative to averted and managed chaos.

The idea that I accept is of releasing or yielding illusion of control/chaos to the movement within being – which is not in time – but the recognition of the timeless communication/communion of Mind – through its embodiment of relational expression (creation). In this, every instant is a total creation – and there is no way to get out of it (if you actually wanted to). This is not to deny the unfolding of idea in freedom to experience or explore along the line of your own acceptance, but the true nature of such freedom is only known in a resonant alignment of giving as in truth you receive.

The mind of (apparent) opposition, is the freedom to believe it has given itself different than it is, and made it real. But this is the ability to hold conflicting ideas and accept them – and thus split the mind to levels and compartments of dramatic consequence – for this is the nature of fear and threat of non-exitsence and pain of loss to one part relative to another – now seen as rivals for ‘control’ and ‘possession’ of what in truth is given as All in All.

If you are still seeking to fit the nature of being into political drama, rather than of yielding up the addiction to conflict-identity to the nature of being, then you are active in protecting your investments in delay set against the Inevitable, because truth is not a passing illusion – but that without which we could not have an illusory experience and adaptive identity.

The word illusion is often used dismissively – but the fact is that we do believe in separation as real and we do experience both the killer and the victim as well as as using the grievance of victim to invoke the killer as our right, and the inflicting of pain of loss as vengeful justice.
The intensity of the emotional backing or driving of such thought and action is all the belief of survival. Everyone protects their investments – but few know what they do – because they are possessed by what they thought to possess or controlled by what they thought to control.

The law of mind is its giving and receiving are one – and the dictate of a split mind is the belief we can give to get rid of, and get vengeance on our shadow by denial of coercion and deceit, so as to be ‘free’ of checks, obstructions or limitations to a fantasy enacted upon the body and forms of the world. And so we get a fantasy evaporation from using and exploiting our relationships, our life and our world.

But to everyone who is invested in this mind as if their own, is pain and sickness and death lived and died as real because their ‘enemy’ is invested with reality by hate and fear.

Think you even for a moment that Being is unable to reintegrate its Own?

The wish for separation is not violated by your true will, which is freedom. The framing of reality in terms of a wish given power by the very fear it induces, is a reversal of cause and effect in which a lure of power induces powerlessness and the belief in lack induces an illusion of freedom that effects slavery. How ‘deep’ into darkness of such insanity are we willing to give worth-ship and with-ness to?

You can only release or step free of subjective distortions that you have accepted awareness of. The true alignment is not to an objective reality, but to an inner integrity of self-honesty that then meets a truly resonant recognition – instead of support for self-specialness masked in symbols of life.

If there were particular points you made that you wanted me to respond to, please simply restate them – as there were many. Our primary responsibility is our acceptance – from which all else proceeds. How would we know we are accepting true, or are deceived in ourselves?
Science endeavoured to reduce subjective distortions by its focus and method, but at cost of diminishing and denying our consciousness of choice. In other words we are fitting ourselves to a robotic inhuman technocratic systemic replacement for living relational endeavour – and have hardly the consciousness to recognize our own act and consequence – because we ascribe it to ‘reality’ under a priesthood of expertise in deceit. The subjective distortion is a self-reinforcing loop of defended investments in the boom and bust of a life made from death.

R.J.H. Jerphanion
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R.J.H. Jerphanion

I’m wondering if the enormous scale of life is perhaps not detrimental to our well being. Pehaps we have lost sight of the human scale? In my mind, life would be less stressful if we lived in smaller communities, but now most of us live in cities where 99% of the population are complete strangers and indifference is rife. Malevolence can grow out of control in our current world and would certainly be easier to keep in check within smaller societies. Close knit families are becoming less common, so we have little sense of place or belonging. We “live” on the internet where we are mostly faceless or even utterly anonymus and globalism isn’t exactly helping the feeling of comfort or identity either. Most people are basically good natured, and most of us would rather choose a peaceful life as opposed to bickering and war. All being said, we all know where change must start…..

vexarb
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vexarb

R.J.H, though in agreement about small being beautiful, I conversely think we small humans treading our little Earth are mostly not mindful of the scale of the Universe. “In my Father’s house are many mansions” — John 14.

“Did I say it was big?” — Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Universe.

Sackerson
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You might like to read Aldous Huxley’s own answer to his “Brave New World”; his 1962 novel “Island.”

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Island-Aldous-Huxley/dp/0099477777/ref=la_B000APWRRY_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1552824918&sr=1-4

vexarb
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vexarb

Sackerson, yes, when “Island” came out I thought it showed a new and less dessicated Huxley. Heralded the Hippie movement.

“Make Love not War”.
“All you need is Love, Love, Love / All you need is Love”.
“Where have all the flowers gone?”

Sackerson
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“Here and Now”, “Compassion” – Buddhist principles. But of course the Island gets subverted by an invading oil company.

Jo
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Jo

The intentional community movement has been going on for what…last 30- 40 years at least?

Betrayed planet
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Betrayed planet

What if ?
As a somewhat damaged sensitive human being and a landscape artist I have always been something of a fantasist, dreaming of a perfect world where all is shared, no hunger, no war, no psychopathy, no Theresa May the sociopath. Reared by two alcoholic doctors who thought they were God, I learnt early on in life that power corrupts, damages and destroys our sense of self. It is that vital sense of self in us that has been eroded by the likes of the venal Bernase, Chicago boys and the rest of the human filth that have very effectively co opted the bulk of the human race.
I have tried to practice what I preach and have discovered to my detriment that there is not a whole lot of kindness and fellow feeling out there. It is as if the malignancy of the scum that rises to the top seeps into humanities very soul and removes that essential compassion we need for our very survival. That survival is now almost certainly at risk on several fronts, war, world fascism and climate change. We have become the bitter spending units that Bernase envisioned with little to no resemblance to our former selves.
Gone are the days of selflessness and human cooperation of WW2, sharing and looking out for the most vulnerable. I have always without exception been an optimist even when there was no reason to be,however in the past five yrs that optimism has died and I have retreated to a micro holding surrounded by nature. Solitude can be a balm.
I read recently of deer packs who are protected by the more intuitive deers who stay at the back of the pack to warn and ward off danger from predators. These deer are an essential force to protect this species. In the now brave new world of extreme capitalism or in reality Western Neoliberal Fascism the sensitive, the intuitive, the gentle are systematically being destroyed as their contribution is regarded as worthless, their very existence a threat to power because another world is possible and the vicious thugs at the top know this.

Francis Lee
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Francis Lee

It’s the Freudian dualism I am afraid – Eros and Thanatos. Life and Death. But it is no longer a question of good versus evil which perpetuated itself throughout human history. It is now a matter of survival or extinction. A fairer more human society is imperative, is not just an ethical question (although it is a good one) it is the only social arrangement which is possible, the alternative is extinction. The capitalist, neo-liberal, neo-con ideology is a death cult. They always remind me of those science fiction creatures, the Daleks, EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE.

vexarb
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vexarb

@Francis Lee: “the Daleks, EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE.”

Or the Neocons, TAKE OUT, TAKE OUT.

As in U$ minister of War Paul Wolfoschitz memo to his attack dogs.
” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to TAKE OUT seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” ”

About 20 years later, Syria and Iran are still standing up to the bully. Andre’ did a good job to show the humanity of Syria; as did Ramin Mazaheri for Iran.

vexarb
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vexarb

PS “Pat Robertson, fundamentalist Christian guru and patron of the Jews for Jesus movement. He promoted on national TV the idea that the US military should directly TAKE OUT (sic) Hugo Chavez.”

By Jimmy Moglia: https://thesaker.is/tragicomedy-of-errors/

wolfathand
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wolfathand

You are an excellent thinker and writer, just read your piece on Russia. Your dicotomy of alternatives is stark but accurate. No worries, something special is coming along which will preempt the lesser of the two options facing us.

Rick
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Rick

A nice thought and yes in principle. We are slaves to a system that now owns us – we work in jobs we hate to buy things we don’t need, keeping up appearances to people we don’t even like. Crazy indeed. However we would never have developed the high technology we have now – ancient Greece and Rome was the pinnacle of what we could achieve with basic mechanical engineering whilst keeping a spiritual way of life.
However now utililsing the technology we have it should be possible to have local agrarian type communities that are fairly self-sufficient (using e.g. poly-tunnels in colder climates, heated by geo-thermal). BUT it won’t work for a simple reason: human greed, sexual desire, power, minority group formation and laziness.
People are simply too devious, greedy and lazy to make it work. We don’t all want to be the same. Gangs would form, people would want “more” stuff… they would argue over who has the best this or that. Women would no longer be able to mate hypergamously as the men would be socio-economically all the same – so they would encourage division and male competitiveness. It would basically just end up like Mad Max – unless there were totally incorruptible and vastly intelligent and powerful AI robots who acted as lawmakers and peacekeepers to keep the scrotes in line.

[Men] lived like gods without sorrow of heart, remote and free from toil and grief: miserable age rested not on them; but with legs and arms never failing they made merry with feasting beyond the reach of all devils. When they died, it was as though they were overcome with sleep, and they had all good things; for the fruitful earth unforced bare them fruit abundantly and without stint. They dwelt in ease and peace…. a dream I’m afraid.

Robyn
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Robyn

John Lennon said the same thing in a different way (Imagine) almost 50 years ago and he had a huge audience. Since then we have only moved further away from peace. My only hope is that the MSM can be put out of business and courageous truth-telling journalists and writers and thinkers get their audience. While lies rule, what hope can there be?

Gezzah Potts
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Gezzah Potts

Eddison, love your sentiments, and your truly caring concern for humanity and Mother Earth. I wish there were many more like you in this World. There are times I picture myself high up a mountain, living simply, in harmony with all; The Way, or living in a commune, with others of like mind sharing for the benefit of all – mutual aid, to echo Fair Dinkum. That is not my reality tho. I live in an inner suburb of Melbourne. I live in a World where Neoliberalism runs rampant, where countries are pillaged for huge profits to benefit the psychopathic 0.1℅, where countries that refuse to bow to the Masters of the Universe are targeted, or just bombed to smithereens, I live in a World where there is such divisiveness and hatred of the Other, the constant demonising of whole groups of people. Especially Muslims. And who benefits from such division? When I read your peice, I was thinking about the stone thrown into a pond – the ripple effect. But we have to be honest also, that there are those on this Planet who are fully addicted to power and greed, and they will never willingly give that up.

Fair dinkum
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Fair dinkum

Have you visited the CERES Farm on Merri Creek Geezah?
https://ceres.org.au/
It will cheer you up.

Gezzah Potts
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Gezzah Potts

Fair Dinkum: um, er, I’m actually close to CERES, been past it on the bus, but never gone in. Probably favorite location is up in the Dandenongs, near Kallista. Thanks for the tip. Sometimes you just gotta step back, and take in the beauty.

vexarb
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vexarb

Thanks for the Link to Ceres Farm, have passed it on to my grand daughter who wants to be an Environmental Engineer.

Ramdan
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Ramdan

Bit we have the power. WE ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE POWER.
The power to say no to all evil, that power to stop buying stupid, useless things that are the real chain, we have the power to stop using people and start using things. We have the power of RENUNCIATION. Renounce all the rigged system we’ve been tought for centuries prentending this is the “natural order”.
I wish I know how to start such a movement where all the “what if” become real…but I didn’t, so I simply dropped everything. I left the supposedly “comfort” live a moved back into my “third word” island and then to a mountain top. I move to live simply and change all the stupidity and hatred society instilled on me….IT IS POSSIBLE….it just takes the honest, deep, strong willingness to break free from slavery and hatred.
I did it and I’m nobody (and happy so…) ANYONE CAN DO IT. WE ALL CAN. WE ALL CAN CHANGE THIS HATEFUL WORDL IN A WORLD OF LOVE….
The REVOLUTION STARTS WITHIN!!!

JudyJ
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JudyJ

Ramdan

I understand and agree with your sentiments at the level of ‘the individual’, and well done for taking a brave stand. However this wouldn’t work logistically for global society. The point being made in the article is that radical changes need to be made in the global society if we are to tip the balance to harmonious existence worldwide. It isn’t just a case of turning one’s back on all that we, as individuals, find objectionable and leaving everyone else to carry on destroying themselves.

“ANYONE CAN DO IT. WE ALL CAN. WE ALL CAN CHANGE THIS HATEFUL WORLD IN A WORLD OF LOVE…”
Fine in principal but for this to succeed there has to be a will and desire to change. Unfortunately the actions of a number of sociopaths who currently control so much in society prove that for them there would be no merit in changing. Until they are removed from power, Shangri-La will continue to be a pipedream for the rest of us. Having said that, I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of world leaders whose removal from power could at least start the ball rolling towards a far more harmonious global society than we currently have. We can only hope that, if enough people wake up to the travesties committed by these people, the possibility of change for the better isn’t unachievable before it’s too late.

right to left (@rlmcr57)
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Exactly right, Judy! And I have to say I’m a little deflated that so few people commenting here seem to have understood the main point the author was trying to make with this essay.
Western tradition built upon teachings of basic human depravity and evil started bending and giving way to the notion that the good nature, altruism and peacefulness of ‘primitive’ peoples discovered centuries ago gave rise to what is derisively known as “The Noble Savage.”
There has always been a push-back from ‘Christian’ and other western religionists, but the social sciences have been invaded and overrun by propagandists in recent decades taking us back to the former doctrine of evil. Since most of these “experts” like Stephen Pinker, who teach an absurd notion that basic principles of capitalism and international trade are making us less warlike, receive generous funding from the plutocrats who are destroying our world, it seems to me that the game now is to blame everybody for the wars, the environmental destruction and suffering in this world!
I’m glad there are a few places online like OffGuardian, which provide writers the opportunity to push back against the shit being shoveled at us and trying to make everyone believe things that are wrong and absurd!

Ramdan
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Ramdan

I underestand that this can not be applied on a large scale, but nothing can..at least not by imposition. That’s why the revolution starts within. The real struggle is within each of us, within our divided selfs.
Imposing a change will only achive temporary success. The change has to come from within each one. We can not change other people, that’s a fact. Unfortunately, we learn through painful experiences, intellectual comprehension has very little impact on daily human behaviour. It seems that Bob Marley was right on that “…many more will have to suffer…”
Awakening, (which is what this sleeping world needs) most times than not, stems from the muddy waters of a crisis.

eddisonflame
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eddisonflame

“But we have to be honest also, that there are those on this Planet who are fully addicted to power and greed, and they will never willingly give that up.”

That’s true. They won’t give it up willingly, and we can’t beat them either, not yet anyway. What we could do is start networking. I feel like the more we come together the stronger we get.

I would like to see a new counter-culture revolution rising all over the world. I would like to see people getting together and dropping out of this destructive world order prison system that currently passes as society.

How is another question. I have some ideas, but they’re pretty radical, and I haven’t really ironed them out yet…

Thank you for your kind words, I appreciate it.

Schlüter
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Kavy
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Kavy

In primitive societies if your house got burnt down everyone in your village would help you to build a new one.

People never bartered but would just give each other stuff. If you needed a new pair of shoes and someone had a spare pair they would give you them, but the next day you would probably help him in the field, or something. People had great friends.

Young women weren’t left all alone with a new baby, but their mothers and grandmothers would help out. Very young mums are very inexperienced, and at 16, or younger, were still children, but it it was okay because their mothers and grandmothers helped out. Young mums would spend time with other mums doing a bit of work, and so there was no loneliness. When the children became toddlers, some of the the mothers in the village would take care of the all the children during the day, while the women worked in the fields. They had great companionship.

People only needed to work about three days a week, or just a little bit on most days. And as long as everyone tried their best, food was shared equally. If you weren’t a great hunter, maybe you would discover that you could make up for it by being a cook. Or, you might be good comedian, or an entertainer, and so you can keep the tribe delighted that way.

There was competition, for sure, competing at games, at hunting, and getting the prettiest girls, but there was great friendship too. Contributing to the group was the most important thing.

Work was leisure and everyday must have been so exciting, living next to nature with it’s beauty. I doubt if there was ever much boredom.

And it’s human nature to conserve energy, and so after a hunt, and after enjoying some games, or sport, we had a lot of relaxation and down time. Just like cats do, who are also hunters.

Old people were never left alone but were a cherished part of the tribe. They had great wisdom and would often know what to do if a catastrophe happened, like a drought. And they would entertain people with their great stories of the past, where the dragons they had fought got bigger by the year. No one was lonely.

Of course it wasn’t all bliss as there was disease and famines, and we wouldn’t want to go back to that, but have we lost something vital too, that makes life so great.

Nowadays one in ten people are on antidepressants. And work is boring a lot of the time. Children suffer more mental illness than ever, and school is about constantly grading and measuring ones ability, so most children feel they they don’t measure up. And then when they go to work it’s like fascism because they have so much power over you – you could lose your home and be out on the street if you don’t please the boss. What a life, hey!

Cesca
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Cesca

Gorgeous article and the means to produce this sort of world community are within the vast majority of us. We need to take back the power we somehow ceded to the tiny minority of ppl Anthropologists like myself call Free Riders, now popularly called Socio/Psychopaths.

Christopher Boehm is the top Anthropologist promoting this theory, seriously recommend reading his books Hierarchy in the Forest and Moral Origins. This vid is a taster of his ideas: Altruism-Social Selection vs. the Notorious Free Rider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1U1sJf0ad0