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The CIA Takeover of America in the 1960s is the Story of Our Times

A Quasi-Review of A Lie Too Big To Fail: The Real History of the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy by Lisa Pease

Edward Curtin

Robert Kennedy

‘We’re all puppets,’ the suspect [Sirhan Sirhan] replied, with more truth than he could have understood at that moment.”
Lisa Pease, quoting from the LAPD questioning of Sirhan

When Senator Robert Kennedy was assassinated on June 5, 1968, the American public fell into an hypnotic trance in which they have remained ever since. The overwhelming majority accepted what was presented by government authorities as an open and shut case that a young Palestinian American, Sirhan Sirhan, had murdered RFK because of his support for Israel, a false accusation whose ramifications echo down the years. That this was patently untrue and was contradicted by overwhelming evidence made no difference.

Sirhan did not kill Robert Kennedy, yet he remains in jail to this very day. Robert Kennedy, Jr., who was 14 years old at the time of his father’s death, has visited Sirhan in prison, claims he is innocent, and believes there was another gunman. Paul Schrade, an aide to the senator and the first person shot that night, also says Sirhan didn’t do it. Both have plenty of evidence. And they are not alone.

There is a vast body of documented evidence to prove this, an indisputably logical case marshalled by serious writers and researchers. Lisa Pease is the latest. It is a reason why a group of 60 prominent Americans has recently called for a reopening of, not just this case, but those of JFK, MLK, and Malcom X. The blood of these men cries out for the revelation of the truth that the United States national security state and its media accomplices have fought so mightily to keep hidden for so many years.

That they have worked so hard at this reveals how dangerous the truth about these assassinations still is to this secret government that wages propaganda war against the American people and real wars around the world. It is a government of Democrats, Republicans, and their intelligence allies working together today to confuse the American people and provoke Russia in a most dangerous game that could lead to nuclear war, a possibility that so frightened JFK and RFK after the Cuban Missile Crisis that they devoted themselves to ending the Cold War, reconciling with the Soviet Union, abolishing nuclear weapons, reining in of the power of the CIA, and withdrawing from Vietnam. That is why they were killed.

The web of deceit surrounding the now officially debunked Democratic led Russia-gate propaganda operation that has strengthened Trump to double-down on his anti-Russia operations (a Democratic goal) is an example of the perfidious and sophisticated mutuality of this game of mass mind-control.

The killing of the Kennedys and today’s new Cold War and war against terror are two ends of a linked intelligence operation.

Moreover, more than any other assassination of the 1960s, it is the killing of Bobby Kennedy that has remained shrouded in the most ignorance.

It is one of the greatest propaganda success stories of American history.

In her exhaustive new examination of the case, A Lie Too Big To Fail, Lisa Pease puts it succinctly at the conclusion of her unravelling of the official lies that have mesmerized the public:

The assassination of the top four leaders of the political left in the five year period – President John Kennedy in 1963, Malcolm X in 1965, and Martin Luther King, Jr. and Senator Robert Kennedy in 1968 – represented nothing less than a slow-motion coup on the political scene.

If anyone wishes to understand what has happened to the United States since this coup, and thus to its countless victims at home and throughout the world, one must understand these assassinations and how the alleged assassins were manipulated by the coup organizers and how the public was hoodwinked in a mind-control operation on a vast scale. It is not ancient history, for the forces that killed these leaders rule the U.S. today, and their ruthlessness has subsequently informed the actions of almost all political leaders in the years since. A bullet to the head when you seriously talk about peace and justice is a not so gentle reminder to toe the line or else.

“But the way the CIA took over America in the 1960s is the story of our time,” writes Pease, “and too few recognize this. We can’t fix a problem we can’t even acknowledge exists.” Nothing could be truer.

Lisa Pease has long recognized the problem, and for the past twenty-five years, she has devoted herself to shedding light on the CIA’s culpability, particularly in the Robert Kennedy case. Few people possess the grit and grace to spend so much of their lives walking this path of truth.

The extent of her research is dazzling, so dazzling in its voluminous detail that a reviewer can only touch on it here and there. She has written a book that is daunting in its comprehensiveness. It demands focused attention and perseverance, for it runs to over 500 pages with more than 800 footnotes. This book will remain a touchstone for future research on the RFK assassination, whether one agrees or disagrees with all of her detailed findings and speculations. For this book is so vast and meticulous in its examination of all aspects of the case that one can surely find areas that one might question or disagree with.

Nevertheless, Pease fundamentally proves that Sirhan did not shoot RFK and that there was a conspiracy organized and carried out by shadowy intelligence forces that did so. These same forces worked with the Los Angeles Police Department, federal, state, and judicial elements to make sure Sirhan was quickly accused of being the lone assassin and dispatched to prison after a show trial. And the mass media carried out its assigned role of affirming the government’s case to shield the real killers and to make sure the cover-up was successful.

No doubt others will investigate this case further. Yet I think no more research is really needed, for as with these other assassinations, additional analyses will only result in pseudo-debates about minutiae. Such debates will only serve to prolong the hallucinatory grip the perpetrators of these crimes have on a day of reckoning, suggesting as they would that we do not really know what happened. This is an old tactic meant to delay forevermore such a day of reckoning.

The facts are clear for all to see if they have the will to truth. All that is now needed is a public tribunal, which is planned for later this year, in which the fundamental, clear-cut facts of these cases are presented to the American public. In the case of Robert Kennedy’s assassination as with the others, a little knowledge goes a long way, and only those who are closed to basic logic and evidence will refuse to see that government forces conspired to kill these men and did so because all were seeking peace and justice that was then, and is now, a threat to the war-making forces of wealth and power that control the American government.
Pease writes:

Anyone who has looked closely and honestly at the evidence has realized that more than one person was involved in Robert Kennedy’s death. So why can’t reporters see this? Why can’t the media explain this? Because the media and the government are two sides of the same coin, and those who challenge the government’s version of history, as numerous reporters have found out, all too often lose status and sometimes whole careers. Kristina Borjesson published an anthology of such stories in her book Into the Buzzsaw, in which journalists describe how they lost their careers when each of them expressed a truth that the government did not want exposed.

Lisa Pease discloses such truths. I am reporting on her work. Therefore, the mainstream media, except for an extraordinary reporter or two, such as Tom Jackman of The Washington Post, will likely ignore both of us, but the publication where you are reading this is on the side of truth, and in the disclosure of truth lies our hope.

Since more than one person was involved in the killing of RFK, there was – ipso facto – a conspiracy. This is not theory but fact. The fact of a conspiracy. For more than fifty years, mainstream reporters have been cowed by this word “conspiracy,” thanks to the CIA. Many others have been intelligence assets posing as journalists, regurgitating the lies. This is a fact.

The official story is that after giving his victory speech for winning the 1968 Democratic California Primary, Kennedy, as he was walking through a crowded hotel pantry, was shot by Sirhan Sirhan, who was standing to his left between 3-6 feet away. Sirhan’s revolver held eight bullets, and as he was shooting, he was tackled by a group of large men who subdued him. All witnesses place Sirhan in front of Kennedy and all claim he was firing a gun.

Fact: As the autopsy definitively showed, RFK was shot from the rear at point blank range, three bullets entering his body, with the fatal headshot coming upward at a 45-degree angle from 1-3 inches behind his right ear. Not one bullet from Sirhan’s gun hit the Senator. In addition, an audio recording shows that many more bullets than the eight in Sirhan’s gun were fired in the hotel pantry that night. It was impossible for Sirhan to have killed RFK.

Let me repeat: More than one gunman, contrary to the government’s claims, equals a conspiracy. So why lie about that?

What is amazing is that the obvious conclusion to such simple syllogistic logic (Sirhan in front, bullets in the back, therefore…) that a child could understand has been dismissed by the authorities for fifty-one years. The fact that the government authorities – the LAPD, the Sheriff’s Office, the District Attorney, federal and state government officials, the FBI, the CIA – have from the start so assiduously done all in their power to pin the blame on “a lone assassin,” Sirhan, proves they are part of a coordinated cover-up, which in turn suggests their involvement in the crime.

The fact that Robert Kennedy was shot from the back and not the front where Sirhan was standing immediately brings to mind the Zapruder film that shows that JFK was killed from the front right and not from the 6th floor rear where Oswald was allegedly shooting from. That unexpected film evidence was hidden from the public for many years, but when it was finally seen, the case for a government conspiracy was solidified.

While no such video evidence has surfaced in the RFK case, the LAPD made sure that no photographic evidence contradicting the official lies would be seen. As Lisa Pease writes:

Less than two months after the assassination, the LAPD took the extraordinary step of burning some 2,400 photos from the case in Los Angeles County General’s medical waste incinerator. Why destroy thousands of photos in an incinerator if there was nothing to hide? The LAPD kept hundreds of innocuous crowd scene photos that showed no girl in a polka dot dress or no suspicious activities or individuals. Why were those photos preserved? Perhaps because those photos had nothing in them that warranted their destruction.

While “perhaps” is a mild word, the cover-up of “the girl in the polka dot dress” needs no perhaps. Dozens of people reported seeing a suspicious, curvaceous girl in a white dress with black polka dots with Sirhan in the pantry and other places. She was seen with various other men as well. The evidence for her involvement in the assassination is overwhelming, and yet the LAPD did all in its power to deny this by browbeating witnesses and by allowing her to escape.

Sandra Serrano, a Kennedy campaign worker and a courageous witness, was bullied by the CIA-connected police interrogator Sergeant Enrique “Hank” Hernandez. She had been sitting outside on a metal fire escape getting some air when the polka dot dress girl, accompanied by a man, ran out and down the stairs, shouting, “We’ve shot him, we’ve shot him.” When Serrano asked whom did they shoot, the girl replied, “We’ve shot Senator Kennedy.” Then she and her companion, both of whom Serrano had earlier seen ascending the stairs with Sirhan, disappeared into the night. A little over an hour after the shooting Serrano was interviewed on live television by NBC’s Sander Vanocur where she recounted this. And there were others who saw and heard this girl say the same thing as she and her companion fled the crime scene. Nevertheless, the LAPD, led by Lieutenant Manuel Pena, also CIA affiliated, who was brought out of retirement to run the investigation dubbed “Special Unit Senator,” worked with Hernandez and others to dismiss the girl as of no consequence.

Lisa Pease covers all this and much more. She shows how Sirhan was obviously hypnotized, how the trial was a farce, how the police destroyed evidence from the door frames in the pantry that proved more than the eight bullets in Sirhan’s gun were fired, how Officer DeWayne Wolfer manipulated the ballistic evidence, etc.

Through years of digging into court records, archives, transcripts, the public library, and doing countless interviews, she proves without a doubt that Sirhan did not kill Kennedy and that the assassination and the cover-up were part of a very sophisticated intelligence operation involving many parts and players. She shows how no matter what route Kennedy took in the hotel that night, the killers had all exits covered and that he would not be allowed to leave alive.

While some of her more speculative points – e.g. that Robert Maheu (Howard Hughes/CIA) was “the most credible high-level suspect for the planner of Robert Kennedy’s assassination,” that Kennedy was shot twice in the head from behind, etc. are open to debate, they do not detract from her fundamentally powerful case that RFK, like his brother John, was assassinated by a CIA-run operation intended to silence their voices of courageous resistance to an expanding secret government dedicated to war, murder, and human exploitation. The U.S. government of today.

When Bobby Kennedy was entering the kitchen pantry, he was escorted by a security guard named Thane Eugene Cesar, a man long suspected of being the assassin. Cesar was carrying a gun that he drew but denied firing, despite witnesses’ claims to the contrary. Conveniently, the police never examined the gun. He has long been suspected of being CIA affiliated, and now Pease says she has found evidence to confirm that.

She writes, “It’s hard to overstate the significance of finding a current or future CIA contract agent holding Kennedy’s right arm at the moment of the shooting.”

Yes, it is. As she rightly claims, the CIA takeover of America in the 1960s is the story of our time. And our time is now. None of this is ancient history. That is so crucial to grasp. For those who think that learning the truth about the 1960s assassinations is an exercise in futility reserved for those who are living in the past, they need to think again. Our descent into endless war and massive media propaganda to support it is part of a long-term project that began with the elimination of JFK, Malcom X, MLK, and Robert Kennedy. They were killed for reasons, and those reasons still exist, even if they don’t physically, but only in spirit. Their killers roam the land because they have become far more deeply part of the institutional structure of government and the media.

Pease says:

It was horrible that Robert Kennedy was taken from us far too soon. It is horrible that one man has borne the guilt for an operation he neither planned nor willingly participated in. It’s horrible the conspiracy was so obvious that bullets had to be lost and switched to hide it. And it’s horrible that the mainstream media has never dared to tell the people of this country that the government lied to us about what they really found when they looked into this case. Until the media can deal with the truth of the Robert Kennedy assassination, and until the people can be made aware of the CIA’s role in slanting the truth on topics of great importance, America’s very survival is in jeopardy….We’ve come perilously close to losing democracy itself because of fake, CIA-sponsored stories about our history. Should America ever become a dictatorship, the epitaph of our democracy must include the role the mainstream media, by bowing to the National Security state, played in killing it.

By writing A Lie Too Big To Fail, Lisa Pease has done her valiant part in refuting the lie that is now failing. Now it is up to all of us to spread the word of truth by focusing on the fundamental facts so we can finally take back our country from the CIA.

Then we can say with RFK and his favorite poet Aeschylus:

And even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.

Edward Curtin teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. His writing on varied topics has appeared widely over many years. He writes as a public intellectual for the general public, not as a specialist for a narrow readership. He believes a non-committal sociology is an impossibility and therefore sees all his work as an effort to enhance human freedom through understanding. His website is


  1. The question STILL remains: ‘What can be done?’ ‘What are we going to do?’ We all know only too well how corrupt and inhuman the ‘ruling global administration’ is, and we know (some of) the terrible crimes against humankind they’ve perpetrated –

    and there are many who try to bring this to light, to expose this,

    and many who are willing.. satisfied.. (?) to display their knowledge and education by writing reams about all this..

    stuff.. But. Nothing changes. At all. Does it?

    Still, it all goes on, across Africa, the South Americas, the middle east, and now down under too..

    latest example:

    so, back to the question,

    What are we going to actually do about it? Or you? Any of you?

    Keep writing, and reading, and arguing.. about how very terribly wrong and unjust it all is?


    The infamous scene of debate about ‘what are we going to do about the Romans’ from the great ‘Life of Brian’ springs to mind..

    oh the irony..

  2. It seems to me, the question still remains: ‘What can be done’ – ‘What are we going to do’? – We all know only too well how corrupt and inhuman the ‘ruling global administration’ is, and we know (some of) the terrible crimes against humankind they’ve perpetrated – and there are many people who try to bring this to light, to expose this – But still, it goes on, across Africa, the South Americas, the middle east, and now down under too.. latest example: – so, back to the question, what are we going to actually do about it? The infamous scene of debate about ‘what are we going to do about the Romans’ from the great ‘Life of Brian’ springs to mind.. oh the irony.. (NZ hoax falseflag video found at

    • The first video link is ….. not functional.

      The new Stalinesque censorship is truly frightening; ‘foreign interference and foreign interference is not the same’ was rubbed. When you become known as leaving the prescribed thinking patterns more and more vanishes because the censors observe you. We can only point out their idiosynchracies where we see them.

      The HongKong umbrella ‘revolution’ is praised because they defend freedom of speech and democracy – as if that would give people a roof over the head. Let’s point out their stupid thinking patterns.

      I am convinced the monopoly will crumble. As EU and China start agreeing on WTO reform, they will be a powerful axis. If that axis does the wrong thing for the people, continues to do the wrong thing for too many people, their precious axis will crumble. They have reason to be afraid of that. We can only fight with words because we are better than them.

      • hmm.. you failed to see my point.. ‘The ‘only thing to do’ is read more about this subject before you are taken in hook, line and sinker.’ – I, and I’m sure many others have been reading about all this and more for quite some time..

        The hook line and sinker is just that.. we continue to read.. and spout.. and decry..

        But. Actually.

        Nothing changes.

        At all.

        Does it?

    • Gezzah Potts says

      Hey, thanks for the link to 153 News. Hadn’t heard of them before, but just to let you know, they’ve been blocked. Repeated attempts to go on their site, and a message kept coming up ‘This site can’t be reached at the moment’. Also repeatedly tried the links you supplied, but same thing – blocked on my phone. I’m in Australia by the way. The clampdown on dissenting voices on the internet continues. You know the end result of this, aye.

      • Gezzah, I’m also in Australia but was able to access the site last time I looked just now (5:00pm Wed). Just keep trying.

        It’s important to keep in mind that regardless of what sites and videos they block, they ALWAYS give us the signs clearly in the MSM anyway. It truly astounds me. I knew that Christchurch was staged from almost the first moment from an ABC clip where you see the same snippet several times of a policeman running for no obvious reason and the tiniest snippets of a bare-chested man on a stretcher, fingers intertwined across his chest looking very relaxed and with no sign of injury and another man on a stretcher lifting himself up for no apparent reason. If you look at what the media present through the lens of, “What can I see that doesn’t seem to fit real event and looks a little odd?” you’ll generally be rewarded pretty quickly. They never, ever fake anything to make it look very convincing. I know from road-testing my Occam’s Razor challenge to those who support the “real event” hypothesis. No one can come up with anything that favours real over staged because they don’t stage their events to look particularly real and quite often show things that are too anomalous to fit real at all.

        I was amazed when I went to check out my only slight suspicion (due to knowing of advance warning) that death and injury were staged at Pearl Harbour. I thought to myself, “Why even bother? This was a war situation nearly 80 years ago. You won’t find what you’re looking for, especially not on the internet.” Found it straightaway. No convincing signs of injury or death and an unbelievable miracle survivor story. I couldn’t believe how easy it was. The photo at bottom left on my webpage shows a man being tended to by three people including a man with a cigarette casually hanging out of his mouth. No sign of injury and lots of people standing around. This photo does not fit a situation where almost 2,500 people have just been killed and over 1,000 injured. The photos showing signs of bombing are perfectly compatible with a situation where a bombing has occurred and everyone is brought in afterwards for the photo ops – same for Bologna 1980 and Mogadishu 2017.

        • Gezzah Potts says

          Flaxgirl: actually went on your site, and tried some of the links there. Some came up okay, others didn’t – same message: ‘this site can’t be reached’ etc. Did have a look at the David Hogg rehearsal clip. The thing I don’t understand is if all these ‘crisis actors’ in this false flag staging – surely They know what they’re involved in, and secondly, some must realise the evil they’re involved in – what I’m struggling to say is none of them blab? They all keep their mouths shut? Ive read elsewhere that the video of the Christchurch shooter was faked. That was on Veterans Today site, which went into detailed analysis of the actual video. There are times the World seems so Orwellian and surreal. Up is down, black is white, and I feel like Alice In Wonderland. These people are pure evil Flaxgirl….

          • The WWII holocaust happened didn’t it? I have never thought of that event as an aberration – not because I’m particularly aware of similar events (although there are – holocaust is a generic term and other holocausts have happened and obviously there are other genocidal events and horrible massacres) but just because I think it was all ordinary people involved and in the right circumstances this sort of thing will happen. Also, all the people who had their heads shaved afterwards for being “collaborators” – what a load of scapegoating – thousands upon thousands of people had to be complicit for the holocaust to happen – many more people than identified “collaborators”. Now when I try to tell people what’s going on and they just dismiss me as a conspiracy theorist I think, “Yeah, you’d be one of the people in response to Germans who were saying, “They’re killing people in the gas ovens”, dismissing their claims.” No doubt these crisis actors are fed a whole lot of propaganda saying that what they’re doing is for some BS higher agenda – and they gladly swallow it.

            It’s funny how they never blab – you’ll get someone pretending to be a crisis actor on YouTube supposedly confessing but you can tell they’re fake.

            Oh yes, the banned video was a complete fake. You see no blood and you can tell the gun is just pumping air.

            Don’t worry, Gezzah, it’s all shocking and surreal at first but then you get used to it. Besides, there’s so much other shit going on too, isn’t there?

            • Gezzah Potts says

              Flaxgirl: appreciate your reply, had another look at your site last night. I get Why its done: to instill great fear, to get people to call for more security – surveillance – erosion of civil liberties in exchange for ‘being safe’. I get that. Its about controlling the herd. Also noted you get a lot of flak from other commenters here, and ‘conspiracy theorist’ is bandied about. I know lots of evil shit goes on: Power, Control, Greed (on an epic scale). I know entire countries are destroyed, and many millions have died due to the rampaging of Imperialism. These people will do anything to maintain there wealth and power. Have a good day.

              • flaxgirl says

                Thanks, Gezzah – you too. Yes – re flak – to very loosely paraphrase Dresden James, people find it very hard to let go of a firmly-entrenched idea, regardless of how much the new one may make perfectly good sense and even better sense than the old one. It makes far more sense to have evacuated personnel at Pearl Harbour in response to advance warning and pretend death and injury than to simply let personnel die for real. Far more sense. Not to mention the fact that the evidence supports that supposition. Likewise for 9/11. But people will not have it – no matter whether they’re on board with events being false flags or not. I mean it’s not really such a big difference is it? False-flag hoax rather than false flag … and when you think a false flag is simply a variety of psyop, in the definition itself it says it’s only about making people believe something, not about doing it for real at all.

  3. Tim Jenkins says

    The Israelite CIA take-over of America & all five eyes Nations, inc. France, in the 1960’s, is the Story of our Times.

    Sorry to be pedantic & correct the title, but we might as well all get factual with more Objectivity and STOP lumping the blame purely on the USA, because >>>
    as you all saw with the collapse of WTC 7 , this COLLECTIVE conspiracy unequivocally includes GCHQ & the UK and their sainted masters of BS, d’BBC, & certain Israelites.

    Worst of all, is that all the evidence is staring people bang smack in yer’ face and certainly NOT theory !
    Anybody who works for the BBC, too, is conspiring to inflate this societal mendacity globally.
    Be they ignorant of history & fact, with cognitive dissonance, or complicit.

    Fact: Long before all events mentioned here, Weaponised Weather was pursued as military strategy by Intelligence, just like Societal Brainwash was explored & enacted, with the advent of TV & the Queen’s coronation.

    See ?

    Any Questions ?

    Solutions for Britain.

    Dissolve the BBC & demand LEVESON2 ! !

    P.s. Breaking: Iranian Flooding ! well, thurs’ a surprise >>> NOT !

    Covered ‘religiously’ by AP, Reuters & AFP, without connectivity or any objectivity.

    Just some bad weather folks, nothing more to see . . .

    “Thank God it hit the ‘baddies’ . . .” said the BBC 😉

    Brainwashing Babes Corporation.

    coz’ nobody at the BBC or ANY University is intelligent enough to tell you why & how we engineer the weather.

    Climate Change has been arranged, simples.

    Life is so simple when you understand it, scientifically . . .

    But the BBC have no wish for you to understand anything objectively nor scientifically >>> Fact !

    Lol, if i were a policeman, i’d arrest Rona Fairhead and hold her indefinitely under the prevention of terrorism, until i get the answers to extremely scientific questioning and she would be charged, in conclusion, with something one way or another as boss of the BBC Trust 🙂

    & without bail, coz’ of her criminal connections to HSBC (the only big bank bank that did NOT need bailing out in 2008) & the BBC’s failure to highlight Tax Avoidance & the case Hervé Falciani & HSBC & Christine Lagarde, oh please . . .

    BAN d’BBC , make my day, i never want to hear the name again and that since 1979 . . .

  4. Funnily enough, when I came home from work and sat in front of the TV, a documentary on the assassination of MLK was showing. It got me thinking – if Oswald and Sirhan were agents then no doubt James Earl Ray was too. Looked him up in Wikipedia and his story sounded made up, at least in parts. I think he could easily have been a criminal offered a lighter sentence to play patsy or someone whose criminal history was simply made up and was hired outright as an agent. So much easier to hire a patsy than unfairly blame an innocent person whose family might put a lot of effort into investigating the matter – not that people aren’t blamed unjustly for crimes they didn’t commit – they often are – but when you’re committing an assassination you want everything under control as much as possible.

  5. flaxgirl says

    ‘We’re all puppets,’ the suspect [Sirhan Sirhan] replied, with more truth than he could have understood at that moment.”

    Seriously, as if they are not going to CONTROL the whole operation. As if Sirhan Sirhan is some sort of random scapegoat that is going to say “We’re all puppets” off his own bat. Their operations are all very carefully controlled and all the lines are scripted.

    He completely understood his scripted line, just as Oswald understood his, “I’m just a patsy” … and in both cases the lines were the truth … and yet also functioned as propaganda. So clever, no? So clever. In Oswald’s case he really was the patsy but at the same time the line functioned as propaganda targeted at skeptics of the story to make them believe that he was bumped off for indicating he might spill the beans. As if. He’s an agent, he’s not going to spill the beans and they would never conduct an operation where that would be the remotest of risks.

    All the stuff about hypnosis/mind control – baloney. I mean, not MKUltra of itself. No that’s all real but in the case of Sirhan it’s just all propaganda designed to fool the skeptics that poor Sirhan was “controlled”. He was an agent and performed as one.

    It makes it so much easier to understand these events when you know what the MO is. I don’t pretend to know the half of it but these parts are very clear.

    1. They tell us they’re responsible – they always do, whether it’s fake Sandy Hook, 9/11 or a real assassination. A real assassin would never have chosen a Carcano rifle, relic of Mussolini’s armed forces, just as real terrorists would never have chosen boxcutters or popped up alive, and the photo of Oswald’s shooting does not match a still in the live footage and very obviously so (not that I would ever have noticed myself but someone mentioned it in the comments of a YouTube video of the shooting)

    2. Often (but not always), they target skeptics with special propaganda just for them.

    — For 9/11 – to make us believe in real death and injury – there’s the PNAC document plus release of Operation Northwoods, Dancing Israelis, explosives in van, etc, Silverstein having a dermatology appointment in the morning forgoing his normal Windows on the World breakfast, the disinformation agents acting as loved ones (a number vastly incommensurate with expected number of loved ones for 3,000 dead not to mention the 6,000 injured themselves).

    — For the anthrax attacks, it’s the alleged killing of a photographer employed by a magazine in the stable of the publisher of another magazine that published unflattering pictures of the Bush twins “falling down drunk”.

    • milosevic says

      Speaking only for myself, don’t assume that the absence of objection to your everything-is-smoke-and-mirrors disinfo, constitutes agreement, or acquiescence. I’ve merely grown tired of refuting your idiotic misunderstandings of objective reality, not to say outright lies. You never pay the slightest attention to counter-arguments, but simply repeat the same stupidities over and over again, without modification. I’ve resolved to stop legitimizing your delusional theories, by responding to them. If the CIA isn’t actually paying you, they ought to be.

      • I have no idea what you’re talking about, milo. I think I argue perfectly reasonably, back up what I say with evidence and I most certainly do not lie. I’m most curious to know what lies you think I’ve told. Most curious.

        • milosevic says

          “no victims at Pearl Harbor” would seem to fall squarely into that category, for reasons which were explained to you previously. but you prefer to just go on repeating the same inane disinfo, which any rational person would reject after a moment’s thought.

          • Roberto says

            No atomic bomb at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and in fact nuclear weapons don’t exist and are a hoax, was a recent pronouncement by those of a certain inclination, i.e. the everything-is-a-hoax crowd.
            It devalues the fact that there really can be and have been hoaxes.

          • You make false accusations, milo. “For reasons that were explained to you previously.” There were no reasons. In the debate BigB and I had he dropped out because he couldn’t sustain his argument.

            I give reasons for believing that rather than being a case where the advance warning received about Pearl Harbour was ignored, it was acted upon, thus Pearl Harbour was not a semi false-flag but a semi-false-flag hoax. It’s not a huge stretch, surely, is it? They simply acted upon the advance warning and pretended that people were killed and injured to make a good excuse to enter the war. Surely, it makes far more sense that they would act upon the information, spare the lives of their soldiers and civilians, and fake death and injury, rather than simply ignore the advance warning. Surely. Many lives were lost in the war but in this particular situation, as they were able to spare them, why wouldn’t they?

            And what we see in the evidence is very similar to what we see for 9/11 (and other events). In both cases, there are no signs of clear injury in the images of the wounded, no convincing signs of death (in 9/11 a clear case of fakery) and we are told unbelievable survivor stories. It’s pretty straightforward. Of course, I could be wrong but I think the case I make is a very, very reasonable one and I’m certainly not lying. You need to be more careful in your accusations, milo, much more careful.

          • What seems to be missing from your paradigm of how the world works, milo, is fakery. That seems to be missing. Unless you understand that fakery occurs – big time – you will never understand how the world works – not that I pretend to understand how it works myself, not at all, I mostly have no clue, but I get the fakery part.

            • milosevic says

              I mostly have no clue

              — on that point, we are in complete agreement.

              Because anybody who did have a clue, would realize that if tens of thousands of military personnel are suddenly evacuated from battleships, airfields, and docks, right before a supposedly “surprise” attack, which could otherwise have been minimized or prevented, that fact is going to quickly become public. Which would eliminate its utility as a pretext for war, and completely discredit the government that organized it.

              • Milo, your argument is of the logical fallacy type, argumentum ad speculum, that is, a claim of what you think should have happened without consideration of the actual evidence. The evidence shows no clear case of injury or death and we have the highly anomalous, unbelievable miracle survivor story of Donald Stratton. We also see the two phenomena of no clear sign of injury or death (including one clear case of fakery of death) and unbelievable miracle survivor stories for 9/11. I’ve presented 10 points favouring staged death and injury over real for 9/11 and I know someone is desperate for the $5,000 offered for the same exercise with favouring reversed but he still, after a few months now, has not managed to come up with 10 points – or even a single one as far as I know. Milo, you must deal in evidence not speculation about what you think should have happened. Surely, if you really want to shut me up and it’s something you passionately believe you’d come up with 10 points yourself to show that death and injury were real on 9/11. If someone was annoying me the way I seem to annoy you I’d definitely cough up the 10 points to shut them up … if not for the $5,000. I’m guessing you’re afraid you won’t be able to find them but it should be easy, no? After all, it’s what they’ve plastered all over the media for years now.

                • milosevic says

                  It’s quite clear that you will denounce as “fake”, any evidence which contradicts your idée fixe, so debating such questions with you is a completely pointless exercise.

                  Enjoy your disinfo rathole; I don’t care to waste any more time exploring it.

                  • The words of someone who cannot sustain their argument – BigB tried to silence me in the same way. People’s intellectual dishonesty never ceases to amaze me. So now you accuse me of exactly what you are guilty of. Idée fixe applies where you don’t have evidence to back your claims. I always present evidence – and logic and reason for my claims, whereas you don’t.

                    FACT: I have provided 10 points that favour various hypotheses and issued a $5,000 challenge to provide 10 points supporting the equivalent opposing hypotheses where the responder can choose their own judge.

                    FACT: In cases we have argued over you support the opposing hypothesis.

                    FACT: No one, including you, has responded to this challenge.

                    INFERENCE: You tell me.

                    Your idée fixe, milo, backed by zero evidence, is that the power elite do not engage in fakery. That’s your idée fixe. You recognise that they lie, but for reasons best known to yourself you believe their lies do not include the lie of fakery whereas the evidence clearly shows they do … and paradoxically they even INFORM us that they’re faking it. They INFORM us very clearly … and yet you still won’t believe it. The evidence is clearly there, they INFORM us, you cannot respond to my challenge or provide any evidence to support lack of fakery and yet that doesn’t change your mind. If that’s not an idée fixe I don’t know what is.

          • And just to add further. What I say is really perfectly reasonable when you consider it outside the context of what is generally currently believed thus to recognise the truth you are obliged to let go of investment in the accepted story. It’s as Dresden James said (my bold):

            A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat.

            When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.

            ​The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves.

    • Carefully controlled you say.. hmm.. seems to me ‘they’ are pretty far from being flawless – ‘they’ are not infallible, they make mistakes – there are just as many edjits and buffoons who ‘go off script’ in their ranks as anywhere else, : – I’m pretty sure a quick search on youtube would still produce enough footage of the so-called ‘Boston marathon bombing’ too.. now that was a farce!

      • Oh yes, the infamous “leaked” Christchurch footage that completely gives the game away (I recognised the URL). I know, I know. But it is all tightly controlled … and yet paradoxically they also tell us but the telling of us is also tightly controlled with their broadly smiling grievers, scripts that clearly don’t add up and various other hallmarks. That footage wasn’t leaked to the porn site randomly by a crisis actor, it was leaked under orders. No one can accuse them of not giving us a fighting chance to call them out but we don’t. For a start, we don’t even recognise that they’re giving us the fighting chance. Trying to persuade people that they are is like pulling teeth – I’m vilified for it when all I’m pointing out is the undeniable truth, if you only care to look and interpret correctly. It’s a strange world.

        • Umm… I’m not entirely sure we’re talking about the same footage.. The video I found would very much appear to show the Christchurch thing being staged.. as in, during the setting up and staging of it, not the ‘shooter’ video – I found the video I posted a link to on 153news – which is a pro-free speech site, and posted it in a separate comment too: “Speaking of ‘false flags’, hoaxes.. and the like.. people might find this of great interest, Christchurch, New Zealand; – the latest charade: – get it while it’s hot.. and still online – (downloadable too) already taken down in New Zealand and Australia – Found on – they also need funding to keep it online..

          • We’re talking about the same footage – although I recognised the URL I checked it too but I see why you think I might be talking about the other one in my use of “infamous” – I didn’t think of that. You know, I wonder if it’s even the set up and if it really isn’t completely staged to produce the “leaked” footage afterwards. You’d think they’d do all the rehearsal before any blood appears because once the blood’s out it gets awkward to redo stuff. It reminds me of the footage of David Hogg, of Parkland shooting fame, deliberately fluffing his lines for that “leaked” footage.

            I’ve posted it on my website:

  6. Stonky says

    One of the most interesting and striking aspects of this is the complete turnaround in tactics since the 1950s/60s, when the US government / CIA were almost paranoid in their obsessive efforts to conceal what they were doing.

    They went to enormous lengths to maintain secrecy when trying to destabilise Tibet. “Orphans of the Cold War” (published in 1999) is a fascinating account of this programme, written by John Kenneth Knaus, one of the CIA operatives who was responsible for training the Tibetan exiles. It is all the more illuminating as Knaus fully believed in what he was doing all through his life, and in his narrative he is perfectly open about exactly what was going on.

    The Bay of Pigs is another example, where the CIA even painted their warplanes with Cuban livery so that they could pretend they were Cuban planes being flown by insurrectionists. In fact it is possible that the failure of the invasion stemmed from the CIA’s avoidance of direct action in their determination to conceal what they were up to.

    Nowadays the opposite is the case. Nobody even pretends that Iraq had any involvement in 9.11. The destruction of Libya was open and brazen. The US military operations against Syria, and the placement of thousands of US troops there, are flagrant breaches of international law. The US is brazen about its intention to destroy Venezuela.

    It’s as if sometime around the start of the 21st century, somebody suddenly woke up and said “Hey. Who cares? We can do whatever we please, and nobody can stop us. And we own the whole media narrative anyway…”

    • milosevic says

      The fact that the entire US “anti-war movement” immediately evaporated as soon as O’Bomber was elected, and did not reappear following the ascension of the Orange Emperor, must have greatly encouraged them. Why bother to conceal your crimes, when the supposed opposition makes clear that there is no pretext so farcical that they will not happily swallow it?

    • Maggie says

      A Lie too big to Fail by Lisa Pease…. £25.99?
      Far too expensive for the average Joe… so sadly this information will never get out to the wider public?

    • flaxgirl says

      They told us that Bologna was a staged event in 1980 (very obvious lack of injury in images and very big discrepancy between witness testimony and visual evidence) though and Pearl Harbor in 1941 (also lack of injury in images and unbelievable miracle survivor story). I’d also imagine a lot of the other attacks in Italy around that time were staged too.

  7. Cat Snapper says

    The management of savagery is what the UK forces are into. That is the case on the street and it is the case internationally. Everything you are going through…the loss of purchasing power, loss of rights, the incursions, all of it is the torture they have developed to keep you compliant. They act for your Monarch. You are the shit at the other end of the power dynamic stick.

    They were born to feed you as lubricant to their enemy’s tank tracks. How is it going with you lube boy.?

  8. flaxgirl says

    It’s important to be careful which parts of the story we are told we elect to believe. Some things we take for granted as being true when perhaps we shouldn’t. For example, when we are told that people have gone to jail, should we believe it? Is it in the realm of possibility that this might be a lie, after all, they lie about everything else, could they also lie about people being in jail when they’re not?

    I think both logic and evidence very strongly support the idea that they lie about people being in jail. I first woke up to this possibility when I discovered that the 1980 Bologna station bombing was faked ( It hit me that as it was faked, all those people said to have gone to jail for this crime simply wouldn’t have. This then triggered the idea that perhaps Jack Ruby didn’t go to jail either for killing Oswald. I mean, they paid him to do the (pretend) job of killing Oswald (indicated by the fact that the famous photo does not fit a still in the video – Why would they put him in jail for it? Doesn’t make sense. And we can see that they fed skeptics of the official story propaganda saying Ruby did it only under duress.

    He was apparently “under pressure from the Mafia” and both an (unnamed) daughter of an ex-flame and an (unnamed) niece claim that he obviously couldn’t have been planning to kill him when he went to the jail because he’d brought his beloved little weenie, Sheba, with him in the car and he would never have brought Sheba if he’d really been planning on killing Oswald, knowing that he would be whisked off to the cells and thus obliged to abandon her. Baloney, right? He was simply paid to pretend to kill Oswald just as Oswald was paid to do his job and was sheepdipped (given a new identity) afterwards. I think we can also infer that Sirhan is an agent, too, has been sheepdipped and makes special appearances in jail to talk to Robert’s son or whoever.

    Then we have Chelsea Manning. Her Wikipedia entry exposes her clearly as an agent, not to mention being feted by the media with a photoshoot in Vogue by Annie Leibovitz and extremely sympathetic interviews with the MSM where she says precisely nothing of interest. No way did she spend 7 years in jail and she certainly won’t be doing any future time.

    What I find most intriguing is that Ted Kennedy’s former Chief of Staff, Kenneth Feinberg, has looked after obviously bogus victim funds for a number of staged events, including 9/11. That is very, very intriguing.

    • Maggie says

      Hi Flaxgirl, Jack Ruby ‘allegedly’ died from Cancer according to wiki?
      ”Ruby died of a pulmonary embolism, secondary to bronchogenic carcinoma (lung cancer), on January 3, 1967, at Parkland Hospital, the same facility where Oswald had died and where President Kennedy had been pronounced dead after his assassination.”

      • So maybe they conveniently hired him as the assassin-murderer patsy because he didn’t have all that long to live – they probably told him they’d look after him comfortably until he died which was only a little over 3 years after the assassination, assuming he was diagnosed with cancer before the assassination – but perhaps he didn’t die at all then or he did but they killed him – who would know? Very interesting that it all happened in the same hospital.

  9. Hugh O'Neill says

    Bravo Ed Curtin, Lisa Pease, RFK Jr., Paul Schrade, William Pepper, James Douglass. Is John Pilger among those who have asked for the case to be re-opened? JP interviewed by Amy Goodman on Democracy Now in 2008 stated:
    “There’s no question that there was another gunman, because one of the people who was hit, just grazed, was standing next to me, and that happened when Sirhan Sirhan had been wrestled to the ground. So that’s the interesting thing. There was another assassin or another several assassins…” but Amy quickly changed topic to Vietnam.
    This tells us that some lies are indeed too big to fail and that many journalists shy away from their enormity out of self-preservation. Until people like John Pilger and Amy Goodman find some more courage, then they will be confined to the pestilential fog along with Noam Chomsky (“Who cares who killed JFK?”).

    • milosevic says

      I’m not sure what John Pilger has done to be lumped in with those two. He doesn’t make a habit of pissing from a great height, onto people who comprehend objective reality, as manifested in the case of 9/11 or the Kennedy assassinations.

    • Tim Jenkins says

      That’s a really interesting crappy ‘cop out’ comment of distraction, Hugh:

      have you ever heard of Editorial control by Owners, with conflicted interests?

      Like Murdoch, with Cheney, Rothschild & Woolsey’s investments in Genie Energy on the Golan Heights, the land rights to which which were stolen from Syria, precisely & simultaneously with the attack on & news cover up of the murder of 34 US Navy personnel, on the USS Liberty, just before Bobby Kennedy was murdered and just before Rupert Murdoch bought the Sun and introduced page 3 tits n’ all, remember ? ? ?

      Take a step back and re-read your comment through and then try and make some coherent point.
      If you can ?

      Personally, having researched & analysed the international media professionally for well over 40 years, with both military & corporate intelligence training, including nightshift prep. of breakfast briefings, directly for the CEO of the wealthiest corporation in the world, i will reserve my constructive criticism of your comment, until you answer.

      It appears to me that you are too young to understand or you have consistently failed to research over many decades, who owns & controls what media, why and how the timeline flows according to AP. Reuters & AFP , i.e. the 5Eyes dictatorship of the media agenda, timing & strategy of societal brainwash.

      Either way, to label JP of all people, even to mention JP, with so many candidates to label, indicates to me that your comment is not worth taking even with a grain of salt and that i best get,

      Back2Music and listen to some ole’ recordings of the other great JP, John Peel 🙂

      Justice > Peace > Out 😉

      • Hugh O'Neill says

        Tim Jenkins. My apologies, since I appear to have incurred your displeasure. It is because of my deep respect for John Pilger as a fearless champion of the weak against the powerful, that I find his temerity in this instance of RFK’s murder (hence Sirhan’s innocence) perplexing. Doubtless, John Pilger had no love for either JFK or RFK, but that ought not blind him into accepting their assassinations by the state. If people like RFK Jr. and Paul Schrade can change their views on Sirhan (after all these years) and believe him innocent, why cannot John Pilger? Surely respected journalists of the calibre of Pilger ought to get on board this campaign?
        However, it is too easy for a non-entity like me to demand yet more courage from such embattled warriors, and I can well understand that one has to make choices and compromises; even saints cannot be saints all the time.

  10. mark says

    The US Spook organisations rampaged around the planet for years like Nazis on steroids, waging dirty little illegal wars, orchestrating terrorist campaigns, overthrowing elected governments and murdering foreign heads of state.

    All that happened in the 1960s with JFK, RFK, MLK and all the rest was that imperialist aggression, terrorism and gangsterism just returned home and began to be applied domestically. What worked in Guatemala and El Salvador worked just as well back home in the Land Of The Free, where it has continued to rule the roost ever since. Its latest manifestations have been 9/11, a series of false flags and the concocted Russiagate hoax.

    We see the same thing in the UK, with the Spook agencies behind the Syrian Gas Hoaxes and the White Helmets and the Steele Dodgy Dossier applying their handiwork domestically with Skripal. They have always been a far greater threat to our way of life than any foreign army or terrorist group, from the time of the Zinoviev Letter to the attempts to stage a military coup to overthrow the Wilson administrations of the 60s/70s. They are a law unto themselves, beyond any control, serving their own interests and their own agenda.

    It has been convincingly argued that if the Nazi regime had survived, Hitler might well have been overthrown or assassinated by Himmler and the SS, seizing power for themselves.

    We are now seeing media puff pieces on the UK Spooks, with Prince William as a front man.

    • milosevic says

      What worked in Guatemala and El Salvador worked just as well back home in the Land Of The Free, where it has continued to rule the roost ever since. Its latest manifestations have been 9/11, a series of false flags and the concocted Russiagate hoax.

      Max Kolskegg — 9/11 In Context: Plans and Counterplans

  11. Helmut Taylor says

    Gosh – if oney we knew who were at back of all this stuff; an why Twumperniquel is suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch an Israelite?

    • Tim Jenkins says

      Helmut, I always blamed Desmond Decker, Rupert Murdoch & Fake Israelites: Logic ! 🙂

      See ? 1968, simples:- check d’original vinyl cover(up) & Hollywood timeframe !

      “The essential Desmond Decker”
      “You can get it if you really want”
      “Fu Man Chu”
      “007 (Shanty Town)”

      add Murdoch onto the funeral pyre and we can start making progress.

      As long as people tolerate Media Moguls’ machinations & marketing of ‘Mad Mullahs’ of Hate & Mendacity …
      what to expect ? !

      Synonyms & Antonyms for mendacity
      fable, fabrication, fairy tale, falsehood, falsity, fib, lie, prevarication, story, tale, taradiddle (or tarradiddle), untruth, whopper >>>


      (Thanks to Merriam-Webster, adding clarity in essential comprehension, but rather ironic that the word >>>
      Fake is missing) Lol 😉

      • Tim Jenkins says

        I might add, (before the pedant sharks are unleashed), that the misspelling of Desmond Dekker is deliberate, because

        DECKING infers COVER-UP and relates to spinning ole’ Vinyl on yer’ Deck !

        F.U. Hollywood Musicals, for 5Eyes Agenda 😉

      • Tim Jenkins says

        I might add, (before the pedant sharks are unleashed), that the misspelling of Desmond Dekker is deliberate, because

        DECKING infers COVER-UP and relates to spinning ole’ Vinyl on yer’ Deck !

        F.U. Hollywood Musicals, for 5Eyes Agenda 😉

        Hmmm, my comments are now failing to publish, suddenly, suspiciously, so may I add that >>>


  12. Archie1954 says

    The CIA is Godless, evil, brutal, immoral, unethical and running amok! Why? Because the US Congress has failed in its job of constant oversight, that’s why!

    • Ramdan says

      Archie, the US Congress has never failed…they have always done their job: Publicly pretending they care and oversight (usually in minor things) and covertly giving green light to everything else while people read Trump’s tweets, watch the Kardashians…or kill themselves running from one place to the other for the second job…

  13. Escapee says

    Then along comes outsider Trump, exposing deep state Commies for what they are. Now you know why they want Trump removed.
    Obama gathered the most despicable deep state assets to rule for decades. CIA director Brennen, NSA Clapper, FBI Comey/Mueller, ad neausium.
    We are witnessing the biggest political unmasking of deep state criminals across the globe.
    They have panicked and are now using public assets to block, ban, censor, remove, delete and eliminate all who pose a threat to their evil plan.

    • funny how he can do that by loading his administration w deep state operatives. i guess satan can cast out satan afterall.

      • Michael Leigh says

        I suggest you examine the available facts behind President Trumpt’s refusal to post his personal tax returns, which request either statutory or otherwise, to of all of his predecessors appears to have been previously complyied with ?

        Surely, we the people should be informed that the President is solvent, and therefore be free of the
        threat of seeking or obtaining credit from impeachable sources ?

        Obviously, the foregoing suspicion has arisen and the current President of the USA is unable to conform, just like a ” strawman which many suspect ” and, is most likely in the hands of the totally murderous evil forces who aspire to rule the world, and most certainly rule the USA.

        More-over Nomad, the North American exceptional State has no democracy to loose – and sadly, it is not a ” cast out Satan ” opportunity?

        • hmmm… i take it you dont recognize satire? otherwise i have no idea what youre trying to say.

    • Wazdo says

      Could you please give us your definition of “Commies”, what they believe and what they are hoping to achieve. Could you also clarify how you have reached the conclusion that the “deep state” are “commies”?

      Thank you

      • Joe says

        They are fascists, not “Commies”.

    • IntergenerationalTrauma says

      I doubt that Trump’s followers thought that when the Orange One promised to “drain the swamp,” that he actually planned to appoint to high positions within his administration the most odious of the swamp monsters he found crawling around at the bottom in the muck & filth – i.e. John Bolton and Elliot Abrams – two of the most despicable war criminals one can find in positions of power anywhere on planet earth. Trump didn’t “expose” the deep state, he is simply another loyal servant.

    • Stonky says

      Then along comes outsider Trump, exposing deep state Commies for what they are. Now you know why they want Trump removed…

      The issue with Trump isn’t that he’s not biddable enough. He can be whipped into line with immediate effect on any and every issue – troops out of Syria, Israel, Russia, Venezuela, Saudi Arabian princes, you name it…

      The issue is that he’s in constant need of being whipped into line. He’s an unpredictable loose cannon who might stray from the narrative and start mouthing off at any time.

      Killary Klownshoes would have been absolutely and relentlessly reliable. She would never have opened her mouth or lifted a finger without being certain she was parroting the Deep State line or doing their bidding.

      • Ramdan says

        I’m not sure if Trump is actually an “unpredictable loose cannon”…. I’m starting to honestly believe he is the most convenient person to be in his position: a HUGE Ego, thirsty of recignition, vociferous, drama-loving, runnig presidency as if it were another take of “The Apprentice”….
        He creates ALL the distraction that is needed so everyone is hust talking about how inadequate he ia and so on…..while the REAL goverment (the neocons, and fascists, et al) take care of the REAL thing….
        Not that Trump is innocent or oblivious….but just saying….

  14. harry stotle says

    ‘As she rightly claims, the CIA takeover of America in the 1960s is the story of our time.’ – the roots of the CIA take over developed in the post war period as paranoia about communism increasingly shaped US foreign policy.

    Because of this the CIA had no qualms about recruiting prominent Nazis to acquire an array of technological, intelligence and financial assets but primarily as a tool to threaten actors who might be sympathetic to communism.

    So long as political leaders were sympathetic to this ideology there were few grounds for internal conflict but this all changed when JFK threatened to disturb the cosy relationship between the intelligence and military communities and level of control they exerted over the presidents office.

    The murders highlighted by Edward Curtin (JFK, Bobby, MLK and Malcolm X) simply remind everyobody that the American deep state was and remains above the law.

    Julian Assange exposed them now he will be tried by the deep state in secret for exposing their crimes – of course developments like this are inevitable when you have licence to kill opponents or invade countries while being cheered on by ‘the liberal media’.

    It goes without saying the liberal media are ALWAYs on the wrong side of events that have gone on to define the sickness that has metastised throughout the heart of US politics.

  15. Butties says

    When you can destroy large areas of downtown Manhatten, using CGI to explain how it happened, CGI plane crashes on the Pentagon to explain how that occurred and plane crashes being swallowed up by ‘filled ground’ and then blame it all on a large taxi full of people with box cutters you can see how far ‘they’ have advanced since JFK. Hopefully will blow the lid off this.

    • Mucho says

      Stop spreading bullshit. CGI? No, there were real plane hijackings on 9/11, real planes hit real buildings. But this is no important. What is important is WHO did this? Butties job is to make 9/11 research sound kookym, like it is based on theories like “no planes were used”. This is deliberate misinformation. Do not be sucked in by this posterm do not interact with this poster. That is all part of the trap – to start long, pointless threads where people end up arguing over bull shit arguments like “no planes hit”. DO not fall into the trap of entertaining this rubbish.
      Here are some well researched 9/11 documentaries:
      9/11, Trump and the Israeli connection –
      9 11, Israel, Trump Connection CASE CLOSED 2
      War By Deception –
      Christopher Bollyn DC 9/11/2017 “The War on Terror among Truth Seekers” –

        • milosevic says

          That site is a reliable reference. However, note that they do not, in any way, endorse the “no planes at WTC” nonsense, which is, as the post above points out, deliberate disinformation intended to discredit all the other research which proves 9/11 to have been a US government operation.

      • MICHAEL LEIGH says

        According to the mass of published popular opinions,the aeroplanes(s) which hit two of the cluster of skycraper office blocks on 9/11, were traveling and manouvering at speeds beyond the skills of all recognised fully experienced top-skilled human airline pilots?

        Moreover, the official US government photographical site recordist, has stated that he filmed the recovery of the two respective aeroplane(s) data/flight boxe(s), which were taken in to the custody of FBI officials in the early days of the murderous affair?

        Most strange is the fact that none of the alleged pilots names and identity documentation does not appear on the official departure records held significantly, by the official immigration department ??

        • Mucho says

          None of this matters. 9/11 happened, it is now the job of our society to bring those responsible to book!. End of story. Israel is the Number 1 perpertrator of this crime, PNAC signatories are all guilty too

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