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Discuss: Tankers “Attacked” in Gulf of Oman

It’s being reported that two tankers have been “attacked” in the Gulf of Oman.

As yet, the reported “attack” is purely theoretical, media releases are just photographs of tankers on fire. There’s no concrete evidence, so far, that the fires were caused by an “attack”.

None of this has stopped the US from attributing blame, of course. A “defence official” told CBS News that Iran is “likely behind the attack”.

The attack – if it is an attack – is the second such on oil tankers, in that area, in less than a month.

On May 12th there was an alleged “sabotage attack” on Saudi Arabian oil tankers docked in the United Arab Emirates. The US attributed that “attack” to Iran as well.

Obviously this is pretty suspicious, especially since the US has form when it comes to inventing an “attack” as an excuse to escalate hostility or even start a war. (The Gulf of Tonkin incident being the obvious example, there many others).

Adding to this suspicion is the fact the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet was in the area already and was quickly on hand to assist.

Further, the ships are apparently carrying “Japan-related cargo”, according to Japan’s Trade Ministry. Which makes the timing even more bizarre, since Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is in Tehran today, for the first official visit of a Japanese head of state to Iran in over forty years.

These suspicions were shared by the Iranian foreign minister, Javad Zarif:

Honestly, Iran deciding to attack two “Japan-related” tankers while the Japanese head of state is in their country would push the Iranian government straight through “stupid” and out the other side into “suicidally insane”.

That said, if it is a “false flag” – by the US or anyone else – it’s so blatant as to be borderline useless. Are the Deep State operatives of the US/UK/Israel or whoever, really that stupid?

At this point it is genuinely hard to figure out what’s going on.

While we’re discussing the whats, hows and whys…the price of oil has surged. So someone has made some money at least.

As always, discuss below.

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CHEWY BONO?

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Closure of the Straits would lead to an immediate ramping up of the oil price to $100, $200 a barrel, and the unwinding of billions or trillions in derivatives. The economic and financial equivalent of nuclear missiles being launched. Even morons like Trump and Pompeo are aware of that. But that doesn’t mean it won’t happen. There are people who just don’t care, like the Chosen Folk who pull all the strings.

Abe was being used as an errand boy in Iran. He delivered a letter from Trump which the Iranian leader refused to take. They have concluded it is a waste of time even trying to negotiate with Trump. Any agreement with the US isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.

Trump and his cronies believe they can get their way by bluster and threats. That they can just dictate terms to Iran, Venezuela, DPRK, China, Russia, Germany, and anybody else, without making any concessions. But making threats is more realistically seen as a sign of weakness. Policy towards all those countries has been a failure. And it will remain so. All they can do now is back off and try to spin this as a success, without fooling anyone, or go for broke with military action, which will make things a thousand times worse.

There isn’t going to be regime change in any of those countries. They are not going to surrender to American dictates, and become obedient Washington satellites. There will be no further nuclear or other deals with DPRK or Iran. Germany will not give up Nordstream. It is too economically important. Russia will not cave in to sanctions. China will give as good as it gets in the trade war and inflict real pain on its own account. It may choose to do some real damage with rare earths and Treasury bonds. Politics trumps economics. No Chinese government could survive the humiliation of surrendering its sovereignty and caving in to American demands.

The stakes are being raised. It is a question of who blinks first. America is creating a critical mass of enemies against itself, like Napoleon in 1812 and Hitler in 1941. It could all escalate uncontrollably given the character of US leadership – arrogant, venal, corrupt, delusional, irredeemably ignorant and ideologically driven.

But in trying to predict what will happen, Murphy’s Law is as valuable a tool as Occam’s Razor. Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong. Particularly with people like Trump around, you have to expect the worst.

harry law
harry law

Excellent comment mark, I suspect the US military will be pushing back on the four horsemen of the Apocalypse, Trump, Pence, Bolton and Pompeo, they should all be in straight jackets.

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We used to say that only the colonel and the sergeant major had a clue what was going on, and everybody above them were just politicians.

In 1942 there was a famous commando raid on Bordeaux. Half a dozen merchant ships carrying rubber and raw materials from the Far East were sunk using limpet mines. They were attached BELOW the waterline, several per ship, to magnify the force of the blast and flood watertight compartments. As per sabotage school 101.

But Captain Mustafa Raincoat, Ace Revolutionary Guard Saboteur Commander, seems to have adopted a different approach for this operation.

“Okay, lads, no more than two limpet mines per supertanker. And remember to put them well above the waterline. That way they’ll show up nicely on the CNN videos.”

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

Nordstream2 was being constructed at a pace last i looked. A bit like how the Kerch Straight bridge went up.

The gnashing and wailing of the US oil conglomerates, and the rabid foaming and running around of their banker houndog, Macron, trying to wreck the EU and its inevitable Russian alliance, has failed.

It failed the day they failed to get rid of Merkel, who was able to form a stable coalition – it took months and I was worried that we were to be frogmarched into a war in Syria and Ukraine by the sulky boy king.

The alt-right neo groups, Billionaire backed, Breitbart and Bannon led, (curious how all the ‘B’ names are in some crazy ways connected aren’t they?) FAILED.

Nordstream 2, going live means cheap and secure gas for all of Europe for decades. No more vagaries of control by the Ukrainian nazis or destabilisation of Syria, or tanker loads of nasty American fracked energy prisoning gas.

And Muttis slappind down ain’t fully done yet!

The Shanghai Co-operation Organisation that Russia just took the presidency of will no doubt be looking at better ties with the EU.

axisofoil
axisofoil
Martin Usher
Martin Usher

What amazes me is that our local paper and the media in general are even trying to peddle the whole “Iran attacks tankers” line. We in the US have been down this road before — many times — and we know from bitter experience what kinds of setups and lies are fed to us whip up a bit of war fever. The problem this time is that we’re just a bit wary; the whole setup seems too convenient and the timing too fortunate to be true. Since the administration in general and the President in particular are known for bald faced lies — nothing they say can be trusted — having people like Pompero running around trying to sound convincing just underscores the ludicrousness of the situation.

The only thing missing from this scenario are some White Helmets….

harry law
harry law

How many people would rip a probably unstable unexploded bomb from the side of a ship which could kill himself and all his shipmates? Maybe a “Fucking moron” like Trump.

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No, no, this had a label attached to it, saying “limpet mine for blowing up Jap tanker.” Elliot Higgins at Bell End has videos of it. Conclusive proof.

Boot Hill
Boot Hill

As already stated above, its a clear message to the Japanese from the evil empire not to contemplate any sanction busting vis-a-vis Iranian oil. The ships are Japanese, the Japanese PM is in Iran, whatever it is, its a message for the Nips. It can’t be intended for the general consumption of the masses vis-a-vis s an immediate war beat-up. There’s no clear ‘evidence’ to lay the blame on the designated bad guy.

Hildisvini
Hildisvini

To carry out an attack like this you have to be pretty goddamn sure that you wont get caught. So you have to have huge confidence in your operatives. You have to have local dominance to react if something goes wrong. And you need huge propaganda resources. Fit any bills?

Jim Belushi
Jim Belushi

Actually, I find that the oil markets are pretty good at knowing what’s real and what is not real. After all, they have big money at stake. In this case, the price of oil bumped up by a tiny amount on the first day. Tiny because a buck a barrel is very little since people talk about much larger jumps should the straits really be closed. New stories about the oil markets indicated that worries of world demand dropping were more important than this. That is not a sign of a market that is expecting oil to quickly jump to $100 a barrel or more in a crisis. Remember, its the first-movers that get an advantage in the markets, so if the markets thought this was real (and not theater) one would have expected to see much more of people trying to buy cheap before the price soars. And on day two, with the US releasing their bad, low-quality, should-have-bought-Huawei-videos and trying hard to beat the drums on this with all their clown journalists from the Guardian onwards joining in, the price of oil barely went up a quarter. I noticed this back during the fake coup in Venezuela, that the markets quickly figured out it was fake and reacted accordingly. After all, these are people with big bucks and good connections and resources who need to know what is going on. On Guido Day, the price of oil jumped on the news, then quickly fell as their sources told them it wasn’t real. Likewise, today, the market reacted as if they knew this was all fake.

Sackerson
Sackerson

So it could be a ruse to maintain the price of oil in the face of global recession?

Hildisvini
Hildisvini

Gold price behaved exactly the same.

Estaugh
Estaugh

Whatever else it was; it is an Act of War!

Jim Belushi
Jim Belushi

Indeed. The US military and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia just declared war on Japan. Remember Pearl Harbor!

Mucho
Mucho

9/11 was quickly declared an “Act of War” ( for example the front cover of USA Today on 10th Sept 2001 had the words “Act of War” as the headline). Chris Bollyn argues this is is a legal term which conveniently for the perpertrators meant that 9/11 did not need to be treated as a crime and that declaring it as such shifted responsibility for justice for 9/11 to the military, as opposed to the Justice Department and the FBI etc. This made the business of sewing up the official fairytale based on nothing but a team of Neocon plants spreading lies in the media a lot easier to achieve. How convenient! Covered in this great presentation:
Christopher Bollyn – “The War on Terror among Truth Seekers”

Mucho
Mucho

“This made the business of sewing up the official fairytale based on nothing but a team of Neocon plants spreading lies in the media a lot easier to achieve.”……not only this of course, as Bollyn explains, the whole point of 9/11 was to kickstart the “War on Terror”, to make it “operational”, and declaring 9/11 as an “Act of War” paves the way for the pre-planned invasions of the Middle Eastern nations perfectly. All scripted.
Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak was the first to publicly declare a new, “operational”, “War on Terror”, and was conveniently placed to do so in this very important interview in the BBC studios just a few hours after the attacks took place. Here he announced the official fairytale for the first time to the hypnotised masses, as a fresh, extremely high dose of manipulation and mindfuckery was being administered in real time by these occultists. His appearance was preceded by an obvious dose of programming to soften up the listener to the lies, clear as daylight, in this very telling interview.
Ehud Barak September 11 interview London UK 2001

John Gilberts
John Gilberts

And speaking of Israel. The Canadian billionaire Uber-Zionist Larry Tanenbaum, co-owner of NBA champions, The Toronto Raptors, has announced he is taking the team on a visit to Israel. Trudeau’s Canada is very pro-Israel and very anti-Iran. Please sign/forward this petition against Raptors ‘sportwashing’ Apartheid Israel…

http://chng.it/vBK6WMhN

‘Let’s Go Toronto Raptors’ best wishes from the IDF:
https://twitter.com/HumHum83/status/1138998942547488768

“Do they cheer the Toronto Raptors as they shoot the children at the Gaza fence?”

TFS
TFS

My bets on Al’CIAda.

Follow the money. Just like on 9/11 someone, somewhere is always making a killing on some known event in the future happening.

mark
mark

Is it a bird? Is it a plane?

No, it’s another false flag by the Chosen Folk!

Ships hit simultaneously by limpet mines/ “flying projectiles” / torpedoes / seagulls with suicide belts.

William HBonney
William HBonney

Written from your bunker, no doubt….

mark
mark

Don’t let me disturb you while you’re counting the shekels and tucking in to the salt beef bagels down the hasbara factory.

milosevic
milosevic
andyoldlabour
andyoldlabour

Jeremy Hunt has already come out to say that he believes the US when they say Iran was behind this.
I am finding it increasingly more difficult to believe anything our politicians say anymore.
The World is on a knife edge and a war with Iran would make the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan look like skirmishes.

William HBonney
William HBonney

…. But you implicitly trust Iranian politicians….

One might respect a distrust of all politicians, but a mere expression of Khameni/Putin/Assad admiration is cretinous.

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Jezza is already a “traitor” for failing to salute smartly and jump into line behind the latest false flag from the Chosen Folk.

Who needs any of that evidence or investigation shit?

Question This
Question This

Some one (thanks, medium giraffe) at zero hedge posted a comment with a link that allows you to follow the movements of the two ships Front Altair & Kokuka Courageous over the last five days.

Oddly he comments that the two ships around the time of the attacks were going round in circles & here it is for all to see, them sailing in circles!

My ship tracking free

I dunno if this is the ships going round in circles because they were attacked or waiting to be attacked? Its odd no other ship in this area circles for no apparent reason, guess they weren’t the chosen ones & didn’t have to slow down to allow the attacks to take place.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

In other credible news:

Mike Pompeo has been arrested for raping Donald Trump’s wife. It is alleged that a hooker jerked him off then smeared the semen all over Mrs Trump’s bush to provide ‘credible evidence of unconsented sex’, but Washington rumours are always a question of who is knifing whom….

Mark Zuckerberg will attend a CIA wilderness training course this summer to gen up on every illegal snooping mechanism available to billionaires, but his wife put her foot down when he asked to attend Bohemian Grove. She was not worried about paedophilia, she was terrified all the raving nancy boys might turn her husband into a butch. And no child of hers will be brought up by a bender….

The son of the Israeli Prime Minister has been arrested for daubing racist slogans about Arabs and Palestinians all over some railway embankment in Tel Aviv. Apparently asking Jews to obey the law is antisemitic, but those bumchum murdering f**king paedophile Arab c**ts are fair game. The police officer who arrested him, a female dominatrice caught whipping Ariel Sharon fifteen years ago at a dodgy Jerusalem bordello and promoted rapidly ever since, has told daddy that his boy can be exposed for ten times worse than this, so best pay up like a good boy and forget about a respectable career pronto.

The son of Roman Abramovitch is about to be decorated by Putin for mugging $10bn out of some Ukrainian oligarchs. He may have to spend $2bn of it on personal protection as everyone knows Ukrainian oligarchs murder two dozen rivals before breakfast as befits anti-Putin freedom fighters who know the US will never lift a finger against them. But Putin is said to have been in a stupendously good mood ever since hearing the rumours. He does not believe any of them, but what he thinks about those oligarchs is probably Unpresidential….

King-Jong Un is in huge trouble for knocking up a relative of the Chinese Premier. Apparently he was seduced by some randy hottie at Macau on a weekend gambling tryst but little rich chinese girls bear no responsibility in the bedroom. Bolton set it up as a scam to get China to agree to bomb the little shit into submission…whereas most normal people withold judgement on the character of a man they have never met….but the Chinese Premier has simply bunged his nephew enough to get the silly filly a termination….

David Beckham got his Internazionale Miami idea from a skit submitted to the BBC in 2005. Wannabe Billionaires do not pay for access to things like that and BBC groupies just want some freebie tickets and flights to the Sunshine State in years to come.

Tony Blair has joined the Freemasons. But not the same Lodge as Gordon Brown.

James Murdoch is being blackmailed by Harvard to donate them $250m. To fund academic research on submissive rich boys. His brother Lachlan would have told them to f**k off…..which is why they did not ask him.

Chase Carey has been told to shave his moustache off if he ever wants to get laid at Silverstone. Now there are no grid girls, the place is swarming with unlicensed hookers looking for business….

Oh, and Oprah Winfrey and Rush Limbaugh were caught in flagrante fifteen years ago but everyone agreed to keep it secret to keep the gravy train flowing. It just shows that democrats and Republicans can sctew each in private, but can only hurl abuse at each other in public.

GIMMME A JOB! RUPERT!! YA KNOW YA WANT TO!!!!

William HBonney
William HBonney

You’ll regret this post when you’re sober.

different frank
different frank

I’ve posted this before.
A Brief History of U.S. Interventions:
1945 to the Present
by William Blum
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/US_Interventions_WBlumZ.html

Bootltboob
Bootltboob

Hellooooo Israel.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

Scene opens.

Bolton, donning his yamuka and opening his jacket to show his holster – holding an Israeli passport and a big Magnum 45.

“Oi Tojo you ain’t making no oil deals with the Eyeryenians unless we tell you too and even then ONLY in our $$ – got it rube? I mean Abe?’

‘Need more rope to hang yourself, Johnny?’ Asks Donald.

Close scene.

Kevin Peters
Kevin Peters

The USA needs higher Oil prices desperately for a number of things, not least the Petrodollar, but also the shail oil frackers who are now struggling with oil at $50 a barrel. The fracking companies have borrowed big but are slipping into the BBB ratings. Investors are now demanding that they get first dibs on the profits before the fracking companies themselves. Trouble is that for every $1 they put into extracting the oil that they get back $1’s worth of oil, can you spot the problem. These failing fracking companies could take out the US economy.

The bankgsters require not quite a war but near enough because an outright war with Iran would be suicidally stupid. Think of this as more like the military version of quantitative easing or near zero interest rates which is in actual fact kicking the economic can further down the road postponing the inevitable collapse of the global economy.

As the Bill Clinton campaign memorably put it “Its the economy stupid”.