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Google Promising Real-Time Censorship Search Engine Announced They Have “Tweaked” Algorithm to Boost “Authority”

Kit Knightly

Google has changed their algorithm so that it actively suppresses “misinformation” when “bad events” are taking place. This is pretty big news if you’re interested in free speech or the free flow of information. Nobody in the media treated it that way.

In fact, you probably didn’t see it at all. Almost no papers covered it – and the major one that did, The Guardian, buried back in the “science and technology” section.

The idea that Google suppresses “misinformation”, and boosts “authoritative voices” is not new. We already know they do that. The new part is that they will do it in real-time, they will respond to “tragic events” by focusing more on blocking “misinformation” at “criticial times”.

Pandu Nayak, the Google representative interviewed for the article, summed it up thus:

…we have developed algorithms that recognise that a bad event is taking place and that we should increase our notions of ‘authority’, increase the weight of ‘authority’ in our ranking so that we surface high quality content rather than misinformation in this critical time here.”

He is directly referencing mass shootings in the Sandy Hook vein, but he could just as well be talking about terrorist attacks, natural disasters, election results or war.

When he says “high quality content” (sic) he means corporate media. When he says “authority”, he means government sources.

Essentially, Google – the most powerful company on Earth – is going to be tightening its control on the flow of information when important news is breaking.

This is a step backwards for the internet, and the world. And it’s a direct response to challenges to state-backed narratives in multiple theatres of information warfare.

Take the Gulf of Oman incident. Compare and contrast: The Gulf of Oman, the USS Maine and the Gulf of Tonkin. The similarities are obvious, I won’t bother explaining.

The difference? Real-time flow of facts. Social media allowed people to comment on the flaws in the narrative instantly. The internet lets people see/hear Iran’s side of the narrative quickly and easily.

That open communication is the difference between a propagandised populace baying for blood, and an informed public asking the right questions. The difference between “historical realisation” decades after the fact, and instantaneous fact-checking. The difference between war and peace.

The almost-war with Iran is just the most recent example. Going back years now “official narratives” have faced a heretofore unknown level of challenge. The sheer number of people calling BS on the Skripal affair and the Douma chemical attack prevented a stronger reaction to both those false flags.

The war in Syria didn’t happen. The war in Iraq did. People believed babies were thrown out of incubators, but never bought that Assad had gassed his own people. All because of the direct channel of communication between people who know the truth and the people who want the truth.

That’s the channel Google are trying to close. Google, and Facebook, and Twitter and everyone else.

And, of course, the press cheers them on. Demanding we have our rights taken away for the sake of freedom, and applauding when some massive corporate conglomeration places yet another restriction on the liberty of the individual.

The Guardian has always been at the forefront of that push, with their absurd “Web We Want” section (which died a swift death, fortunately).

This article uses all the usual tricks, dressing the issue up in emotionally manipulative language – citing mass shootings and holocaust denial as if free speech precludes being wrong or offensive (it doesn’t).

The specifics don’t matter. Examples don’t matter. All that matters are the precedent and the future applications.

This is about what all “safeguards” on the internet are about – controlling the narrative. The old idiom still applies:
Knowledge IS power.

Right now WE have it, and THEY want to take it back.

Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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flaxgirl

I’m not sure I understand, Kit, do you believe that Sandy Hook was a real mass shooting? Surely not. And do you believe that Manchester, Westminster, the Bali bombing, the Sydney Siege, the Orlando shooting, the Berlin truck, Charlie Hebdo, Stockholm truck, Nice truck and Barcelona van rampage and on and on and on and on were real? If so, why? What is the evidence that suggests to you that they were real?

We have real time but it seems all commenters on this site still believe that Chelsea Manning is a genuine whistleblower and that real death and injury occurred on 9/11, despite clear evidence to the contrary. People constantly talk about the mainstream narrative but, it seems, they will always believe that little bit of it, they’re hooked on that little bit of it – the little bit that is the most important NOT to believe and which the power elite somehow know they will believe. We know that virtually all the 9/11 story is a lie so why believe any of it at all, especially when you can see they only wanted us to believe in the “terror” event, there was no reason to do it for real. People call it a psyop yet believe they killed the people. How is it a psyop if they kill them for real? Respect, people. Respect. Surely you do not think that the power elite would have to kill people when they had no motive. They take pride in their ability to dupe us, great pride – and deservedly so. You cannot deny that they have the ability to dupe us massively … and yet still push their hoaxery right in our faces and get away with it.

The thing is that we can only infer that it is a legality that when they stage an event they must insert deliberate anomalies into the narrative that completely undermine it. In fact, they are scrupulous in never providing a single piece of convincing evidence for the believers of their stories to brandish in support of them. This is why my Occam’s Razor challenge to provide 10 points favouring the reality of these events is simply impossible to meet. We do have to give the power elite at least that – they stage their events without a single piece of convincing evidence when they could surely rustle up a few things things that even if fake look convincingly real. But they never, ever do. They are scrupulous. This is also why someone like me who’s a little lazy is drawn to these events – all the information is provided generously for you and is right at your fingertips. To continue to believe in them is simply to wilfully ignore the clear evidence that they are staged. This webpage shows how they clearly tell us, using extreme anomalies in a number of events.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/they-tell-us-clearly.html

My one and only encounter with someone who vouches for the fakery of one of these events is a Balinese man I met in Sydney who told me that his father worked in a hotel next door to where the 2002 bombing took place. His father told him that he was called to help with the injured … but there were no injured to help. I also know a woman who knows the ex-wives of two of four brothers who were affected at Bali. One brother was killed, the other had severe burns to his head and the other two suffered broken limbs. I’m sure that the death is genuine as are the burns, however, I can only infer that they did not happen in the bombing – severe burns to the head strike me as an unlikely result of a bombing. What they do in these staged events is grab people who’ve suffered accidents just before (or sometimes long before) the event and use them in the staging. They also use the names of people who’ve recently died. The ex-wives believed in the Bali story but as they were ex-wives at that time there’s no reason they would have been told the truth. https://www.smh.com.au/national/ignorant-people-are-very-dangerous-things-20121011-27fgv.html.

flaxgirl

Question to the downvoters. Are you convinced:

  • I am lying about the Balinese man?
  • The Balinese man lied to me?
  • The Balinese man’s father lied to him?
  • The Balinese man, his father or I are somehow mistaken – I misunderstood him or he misunderstood his father or his father got it wrong.

If you are convinced of any of the above why are you convinced of it?

If you believe that, in fact, that there is a Balinese man who told me the truth about what his father told him and his father got it right – that there were no genuine injured at the Bali Bombing then doesn’t what I say in the paragraphs above the para about the Bali bombing seem reasonable? (Of course, there’s incontrovertible evidence supporting what I say anyway.)

Are you, downvoters, evidence-based, rational thinkers or are you people invested in your beliefs and slaves to the taboos around death? You see, the power elite are not slaves to the taboos around death. They’re not slaves to them at all. On the contrary, they EXPLOIT and CAPITALISE on the taboos around death to both dupe us and intimidate us into not questioning claims made about the tragic deaths of people in big events reported breathlessly across the globe 24/7, events which are staged to foment disharmony between groups in order that they better control us. Just your basic age-old divide and rule technique. That’s what the power elite do in regard to the taboos around death and that’s what all their willing and less willing collaborators do too.

So can I suggest, downvoters, that you wake up a little to what’s going on, that you resist the taboos around death and recognise that they are being used against us all to keep us under control.

Steve Hayes

The British government’s “Online Harms” White Paper is a recipe for complete control of the Internet.

Robert J.
Robert J.

Not quite new. When Julian Assange got extracted from the Ecuadorian embassy three months ago, I read about it only twenty minutes later on Sputnik (I don’t do feeds, so it was totally by accident that I saw it at that moment). Sputnik had posted the video we all know by now, shot on the spot by RT/Ruptly.

I followed the link and got… “Sorry, this video is no longer available”, with YouTube’s usual saddey. A while later, still before noontime that day, I tried refreshing the page and got the same thing. I then did a general YouTube search, and there it was… but RT/Ruptly’s post appeared way down after the Telegraph, the BBC, the Guardian and a bunch of other ones.

My not-overly-qualified guess is that YouTube censored the news at first; but when RT’s video turned out to be the only one around and was sold to the “good guys”, the censorship committee had no other choice than to let them post it — in an acceptable pecking order, of course.

And while at such thoughts… DuckDuckGo is supposedly an alternative to Google, etc., etc., but it is said to be using Google’s search results. At this very instant, I am typing “julian”, and these are the “suggestions” I’m getting: “julianne hough”, “julian castro”, “julian edelman”, “julianne moore”, “julian lennon”, “julianna margulies”, “julian edelman girlfriend”, “julian mcmahon” and “julianna zobrist”. That’s it. I may be out of touch, but the only one I’ve ever heard about is Julian Lennon.

A DuckDuckGo search for “Julian” only brings up “Julian Assange” on the second page — a link to Fox News, of all things.

Same luck with search engines Metager, Startpage, Yandex or Swisscows. In their algorithmic universesAssange has never existed, or is it just us living in a bubble?

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Good comment, Robert:-

SEO’s & car bumpers that are Chrome’d or Chrome finished, can be polished up lovely with Coca-Cola 😉

Just ask Mythbusters 🙂 Jamie tried it . . .

Enough
Enough

Yes, I got the same thing, thanks Robert J.
Shame on DuckDuckGo for toeing the censorship line.

Peace
Peace

Robert J thanks for the info. It just gets worse and worse. I really had to dig on DDGo after typing in Chelsea Manning to see if she has been released from prison because the US has now indicted Assange. All I could find was a CommonDreams article stating that she is still being locked up… very sad indeed.

flaxgirl

Chelsea Manning is controlled opposition and is not in jail. They will “release” her when it suits their narrative.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/wikileaks-controlled-opposition.html

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

“DuckDuckGo is supposedly an alternative to Google, etc., etc., but it is said to be using Google’s search results.”

That’s not a problem in itself. DDG is acting as sort-of anonymizer. If you trust DDG, Google doesn’t know who you are; instead they get a licence fee from DDG who proxy your queries and their results. However, the chances of Google’s finding out who you are, should they want to, anyway, from one of their several other sources of digisnitch, are high to very high. That is to say, it’s like pissing into the wind and hoping there won’t be a sudden gust. Also, if you are a ‘person of interest’ to a sufficiently well-connected organisation (a.k.a. a ‘passive global observer’) or one of it’s friends, then they do not need the services of either Google or DDG to be in with a very good chance of identifying you. You might care to look at startpage.com, who have the same sorts of problems as DDG (and who have a similar licensing arrangement with Google) but also have some extra functionality which could help foil those that are not yet counted as friends of a passive global observer but as lesser wannabes (e.g your local PD) as well as–maybe–slightly hindering the bigger boys. I do not know if Google’s new naughty filter applies to the results it sends to DDG or startpage but it wouldn’t be hard to suck it and see for yourself.

John
John

The sheer amount of idiots who trust DDG and hi k google can’t find them and what they Type is unreal

flaxgirl

Shame on you, Robert, those other “Julians” are extremely important people.

Julianne Hough – world champion ballroom dancer whose brother Derek is too.
Julianne Moore – Hollywood actress
Julianna Margulies – Hollywood actress
Julian McMahon – actor and son of one of Australia’s poorest-performing PMs (or so they say), William McMahon

OK, I don’t know who Julian Castro, Julian Edelman and Julianna Zobrist are either.

US of War
US of War

Eric Schmidt, the Google’s guy:

If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place

Security researcher Bruce Schneier replied in 2006:

For if we are observed in all matters, we are constantly under threat of correction, judgment, criticism, even plagiarism of our own uniqueness. We become children, fettered under watchful eyes, constantly fearful that –either now or in the uncertain future– patterns we leave behind will be brought back to implicate us, by whatever authority has now become focused upon our once-private and innocent acts. We lose our individuality, because everything we do is observable and recordable

Gezzah Potts

The sound of jackboots gets even louder. Its almost a cliche, but the story of the frog is very apt here; that is placed in a pot of cold water, and the heat is slowly turned up so the frog dosn’t notice. Until its too late to escape. Google is tweaking its algorithms to further censor and dissapear dissenting voices while much of the West is fast asleep and indulging in their hedonistic pursuits, oblivious to the cage closing in on them. I’m grateful youre here Kit, and put out important stories like this one. Thanks.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

“The sound of jackboots gets even louder.”

Or it’s finally getting your attention. Was clear enough to attentive listeners at least a couple of decades before the public Interweb.

Gezzah Potts

No Rob, I actually saw the way things were heading years ago. And yes, I’ve made many attempts to warn others I know (admittedly not that many people, so call me a misanthrope if you wish, don’t really care actually) of, too quote Sheldon Wolin; inverted totalitarianism a la corporate fascism. Like continually headbutting a brick wall. Most people I know don’t want to know, period. Thats one of the main reasons I comment here otherwise I’d go fucking bonkers. I’m very aware of what’s going on.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

I don’t see anything pejorative about the word “misanthrope”. Most of these lazy brained fuckers consummately deserve the surprise that’s coming for them and their belatedly godforsaken offspring, knowledge of which takes some of the edge off the fact that they’ve helped push the rest of the species off the same cliff at the same time.

Gezzah Potts

I know Rob, I know. We’re on the same page, tho right now I am one of many tens of millions of fellow human beings being crushed and ground into the dirt by Neoliberalism’s steam roller, and am barely hanging on by my fingertips. Constantly treading water just to keep my nose above the surface. I am aware of what’s coming, and to give just one example; you probably know the situation with Deutsche Bank. Just One of lots I could give. Some of the ‘friends’ (cough) I repeatedly tried to enlighten one day gave a very blunt response “well, Capitalism has been very good for us”. They regularly go on overseas holidays (usually to Europe) and drive Mercedes & BMW as well as being Hilary Clinton & Obama groupies. How could I possibly ‘enlighten’ people like that? Why did I think I could make the wilfully blind see? I appreciate your replies Rob, thank you. Fasten your seatbelt mate, things are going to get very rocky.

mark
mark

If you have any money at all, GP, get it out of the banks. It’s going to be confiscated, “bailed in.” Get a few bank accounts with nominal amounts in them. You can still use these for whatever basic transactions are still possible when the sh*t hits the fan. More than one account gives a bit of flexibility. This has been on the cards for a long time. Cyprus was a dry run.

Deutsche Bank has been bankrupt for years. They have just shunted $50 billion off balance sheet, but they have trillions more of worthless toilet paper. Short of another 2008 style bail out by Hans Schmidt Taxpayer, which is no longer possible, the only alternative is rob the depositors.

The same thing applies to the Italian banks. They want to issue an alternative second currency, “bond notes”, “debt notes” to cover this.

Gezzah Potts

Thanks for reply Mark. You know how abt 78℅ of Americans (and lots in the UK no doubt) are living paycheck to paycheck. Well that’s basically my situation. I sell The Big Issue mag, no other income, go to random different suburbs each day to keep sales up. It pays for rent & electricity on a small granny flat, occasional Cd & movie, but that’s it. No money anywhere. The well paid factory job I had went to China years ago. Applied for hundreds of jobs, but no one wants someone in their 50s with no skills or trade whose been flogging a homeless Mag for years. So yeah, I’m pretty screwed as are many tens of millions in the same financial boat. I know the whole House Of Cards is ready to crash and burn, know about Deutsche Bank. Fuck Neoliberalism.

John
John

I agree with you on the general Public fuck them they’re brain dead quite frankly. We, the people who look beyond the headlines and have years sometimes decades of experience in this field are a minority and when we mention what we know we are looked at funny. George Carlin once said “maybe something else suck around here, like, the public” George was right

mark
mark

Who would have thought just a few years ago that 5 year olds at primary school would be brainwashed with gay and trannie degeneracy by rabid LGBTQXYZABCD++++ perverts and fanatics – BY LAW??? And any parents who object told to go away and mind their own business?

Who would have thought just a few years ago that the capital of the UK would be less than 40% white?

Who would have thought just a few years ago that Sweden would be the rape capital of the world? With the police so inundated by the rape epidemic that they no longer even bother investigating violent rapes of very young children?

Welcome to Clown World. Cesspit World. Piss Earth.

In just a few years time from now, paedos, incest, bestiality, will be forced on to people and little kids in exactly the same way.

William HBonney
William HBonney

The sheer number of people calling BS on the Skripal affair and the Douma chemical attack prevented a stronger reaction to both those false flags.

A touching faith in the humanity of Putin and Assad…

I honestly don’t understand the stupidity of asserting that everything the UK government says is necessarily lies, but the Russian/Syrian/Iranian and Chinese governments can be trusted implicitly. It is not an attitude that would survive actually living in those countries.

George
George

This is a typical monolothic knee-jerk reaction. It isn’t the case that “our” media is right and “their’s” wrong – or vice versa. It’s a question of acknowledging there are vested interests on all sides and therefore having as many channels as possible open to weigh up all claims and attempt to determine the truth.

William HBonney
William HBonney

On Salisbury, it’s pretty binary. You either believe Russia, or you believe the UK position.

George
George

Nothing is ever binary. The truth could be something different from both versions. But, even if you view only one side, there’s also the matter of viewing the transformations that a story goes through. I had already heard about this case of Skripal “poisoning” when, after a while, I heard about a “chemical attack” in England. I instantly thought, “Oh my God! A mass terrorist attack!” only to find that this was a reference yet again to Skripal. And a little later Air Chief Marshall Stephen Hillier accused the Russians of launching “a nerve agent attack on a city in the United Kingdom”. So – from poisoning to chemical attack to nerve agent attack “on a city”! I love the smell of bullshit in the morning. Smells like victory!

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

I don’t believe the British position – not least because hatred of Putin/Russia, rather than factual proof seems to be the standard of evidence put forward by the authorities.

Manufactured paranoia over Russia’s global intentions was stepped up by US military and intelligence agenies in 1945 and continues to the present day – it has been rersponsible for hundreds of thousands of death in Korea, Viet Nam, Cambodia and Laos to name but four.

William HBonney
William HBonney

I don’t believe the British position – not least because hatred of Putin/Russia, rather than factual proof seems to be the standard of evidence put forward by the authorities.

To believe that two burly ‘ex’ military Russians, with consecutive passport numbers being in Salisbury on the same day is merely a coincidence, is akin to believing that two airliners can crash accidently, within an hour of each other, into the WTC.

It raises issues of motivation, as to why one would conjure up such absurd conspiracy theories.

mark
mark

To believe that two of Putin’s ace assassins wandered around aimlessly on the public transport system for two days watched by a thousand CCTV cameras, then scored some drugs, booked a couple of hookers and caused a big enough disturbance to annoy all the hotel staff and other guests, is akin to believing 2 airliners can crash accidentally into the WTC.

different frank
different frank

Well as the UK have offered NO proof of their fairy tale.

flaxgirl

I have no clue what the Russian position is (except for the UK Russian ambassador saying that Poirot needed to get onto it) but the the UK media stories on Salisbury are a complete joke, even the Sun readers were having a chortle over it in the comments – I’d give you the link but their comments – so very unsurprisingly – were deleted. I really enjoyed them and were sorry to see them go. You cannot possibly believe the Skripal story – I mean, they’re really insulting our intelligence with that one … then again.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Drop the “Knee” and you’ve nailed HBonney in one, George 😉 lol

“The science or logical consistency of true premise, cannot take place or bear fruit, when all communication and information is ‘marketised and weaponised’ to a mindset of possession and control.”
Brian Steere

Sometimes those touting their monolithic wares for corporations of old, (for example Intel inside Israel, now) must resort to pure projection & transference, as their last line of defence, when the questions get tough: before finally answering the key questions in a court of Law, and always then, the question of Legal Jurisdiction arises: courts & judges of convenience to Fascist corporations have been pre-arranged and conceived to corrupt & conceal reality or the true premise of platforms & publishers, or even chip manufacturers, legal culpability & liability.

Which is why Intel have no doubt considered where to take their next stand, in a Fascist land & inside a legal system that maintains a policy of Apartheid, with boots on the ground daily, a Wall & a supremacist policy of Corporate Fascism in legitimising possession & control of Knowledge, with weaponised disinformation marketed in the virtual cyberspace world of computing & programming, far removed from the US Constitutional Rights under the spotlight now and facing serious legal pressure from the Attorney General Bill Barr
with the coming appalling Affair Assange and the murder of Seth Rich for copying & leaking DNC dirty laundry to Assange . . . no hackers involved, nor Russian culpability.
As Bill Binney (ex-NSA) confirms publicly and Assange will also confirm this.

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And then there is the matter of weather Forecasting & modification programming, steering Jet Stream currents as weaponised weather, driving climate change, that also has everything-everything to do with Intel inside, but that is a rather complex scientific & corporate affair for another day; to do with Intel Harmony, Intel HarmoniEPS, HAC & HARP & HAARP Patents and the delegation of legal responsibilities & liabilities for their collective actions in programming micro processors & semi-conductors inline with AER inc. Weather Risk Assessment in Massachusetts** : further connectivity that nobody seems to wish to hear much about, so i’ll leave it out for now, until people here @OffG take a true interest in the technology & science that is thrusting & forecasting climate change & weather modification programmes upon us …

** “Atmospheric and Environmental Research scientists and engineers help governments and businesses solve the world’s biggest climate issues. We prepare agencies like NOAA, NASA and the Department of Defense, along with large insurance, investment and energy companies to anticipate, manage, react to and profit from weather and climate related risk”.

And in bold capital letters they deny all and any Legal Liability, for their services to
Intel inside.

Are you confused by all the legal ‘Barge Poles’, Smoke
& MIC AIMs of Artificial Ionospheric Mirrors ? !
Intel surely hope so . . . and AER inc. don’t seem to have been solving the world’s biggest climate issues either, despite their clAIMs or have I missed their book of revelation ? 😉

different frank
different frank

Is that what all the cool kids are saying around the water cooler at hasbara central?

mark
mark

People who live in the UK or the US are more interested in the lies and corruption of their own governments than sorting out the failings of foreign countries. Foreigners can sort out their own problems. We’ve got enough of our own.

Monobazeus
Monobazeus

London becomes openly the nerve center of Gladio B, to the point that one speaks about “Londonistan” [3]. Under the umbrella of the World Islamic League, the Arab Muslim Brotherhood and the Pakistani Jamaat-i-Islami create many cultural and religious associations around the Finsbury Park Mosque. This device will recruit many kamikazes, those who will attack the Russian school of Beslan Richard Reid, the Shoe bomber. Londonistan includes mainly many media, publishing houses, newspapers (Al-Hayat and Asharq Al-Awsat – both headed by children of the current King Salman of Arabia -) and televisions (Prince Walid’s MBC group). Ben Talal issues about twenty channels), which are not intended for the Muslim diaspora in the United Kingdom, but broadcast in the Arab world; the agreement between the Islamists and Saudi Arabia having been extended to the United Kingdom – full freedom of action, but prohibition to interfere in domestic politics. This set employs several thousand people and brews gigantic amounts of money. It will remain publicly in place until the attacks of September 11, 2001 when it will become impossible for the British to continue to justify it.

From voltairenet.org with the link posted in comments below. You can translate the entire article into English using Google teanslate quite easily. Is there any wonder the UK is spewing so much filth over Russia given how much evidence of UK sponsorship of Daesh has been unearthed in Syria.

In any event the question must be: why is this article published in France and is it a signal that France has the UK by the short and curleys. Is the UK going to submit the Macron the Mark.? Is the publication coercive or is it celebratory.?

wardropper
wardropper

Authority . . . hah!
A small team of halfwits, not unlike the committees in Soviet Russia which prescribed, in some detail, what sort of works an artist must, or must not, create in order to qualify as a good comrade.
Needless to say, this idea was agony for gifted, original musicians like Shostakovich and superb writers like Solzhenitzyn.

The inevitable result of this “social media” regime of moral, philosophic and artistic terror is that all politicians will be like Trump; all writers will be like Enid Blyton; and all musicians will be like Dean Martin.

Let’s put a stop to halfwits controlling everything, I say.

John
John

Superb writers like Solzhenitsyn? The suborning a non fictional novel who was also an ardent racist and fascist even though he was an anti capitalist in his later days! His daughter even admits his book is bollocks. Plus he lied in the camp to get better treatment. 18 million people entered the gulag system during a 30 year period and only 1,000,050 died within the gulag most during ww2 when the germans had cut öffnen supply lines and even the guards starved plus they left with full bellies and a job and an apartment when they were released and had many many rights in the gulag

wardropper
wardropper

I said he was a superb writer.
I didn’t say he was Jesus Christ.
People call Wagner a racist because Hitler liked his music, but nobody beat Wagner when it came to getting the whole of human experience into an opera cycle, and in any case Wagner died before Hitler was even born.
The perspective on these people usually isn’t so simple a matter, and I don’t see any need to try and ridicule people who can distinguish artistic excellence from human weakness and put both in their place.
The daughters of gifted artists also have a reputation for talking bollocks when assessing their parents once they are dead.

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer

Come on Kit .. what’s with the long face ? Big Tech has done us proud by moving all their Internet security apparatus to a country known worldwide for its fairness and impartiality ….

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Nice one, ZZW:
that made me splatter my morning coffee & chuckle 🙂

Monobazeus
Monobazeus

Abu Musab “The Syrian” – a survivor of the failed coup d’etat of Hama, who became a liaison between bin Laden and the Algerian Armed Islamic Group (GIA) – theorizes “decentralized jihad”. In his Call for World Islamic Resistance, he lays down in Islamic terms the well-known doctrine of the “strategy of tension”. It is about provoking the authorities to create a terrible repression that will lead the people to rise up against them. This theory has already been used by the Gladio networks of the CIA / NATO manipulating the far-left European in the 1970s and 1980s (Baader Strip, Red Brigades, Direct Action). Of course there was no way this strategy would succeed and the CIA / NATO knew it had no chance of succeeding – it was never victorious anywhere – but it intended to use the repressive reaction of the state to put his men in power. “The Syrian” means Europe – and especially not the United States – as the next battleground of the Islamists. He fled France after the attacks of 1995. Two years later, he created in Madrid and London the Islamic Conflict Studies Bureau, on the model of Aginter Press, that the CIA had created in Lisbon during the years 1960-70 . Both structures excel in the organization of false flag attacks (from the one attributed to the far left Piazza Fontana in 1969 to those attributed to Muslims in London in 2005).

Monobazeus
Monobazeus

https://www.voltairenet.org/article206726.html

The first few paragraphs of this most recent article published on voltairenet which I have had translated by google:

In the early 1990s, the Pentagon decided to incorporate the Islamists – who until then had depended on the CIA alone – in its activities. This is Operation Gladio B, referring to NATO’s secret service in Europe (Gladio A [1]).

For a decade, all Islamist leaders – including Osama Bin Laden and Ayman Al-Zawahiri – travel aboard US Air Force planes. The United Kingdom, Turkey and Azerbaijan are participating in the operation [2]. As a result, Islamists – who until now were shadow fighters – are “publicly” integrated into NATO forces.

Saudi Arabia – both state and private property of the Saud – officially becomes the company charged with managing world Islamism. The king proclaims a fundamental law, in 1992, according to which “The State protects the Islamic faith and applies sharia. He imposes good and fights evil. He fulfills the duties of Islam. (…) The defense of Islamism, society and the Muslim homeland is the duty of every subject of the king. ”

In 1993, Charles, the Prince of Wales, placed the Oxford Center for Islamic Studies under his patronage, while the head of the Saudi secret services, Prince Turki, took the lead.

London becomes openly the nerve center of Gladio B, to the point that one speaks about “Londonistan” [3]. Under the umbrella of the World Islamic League, the Arab Muslim Brotherhood and the Pakistani Jamaat-i-Islami create many cultural and religious associations around the Finsbury Park Mosque. This device will recruit many kamikazes, those who will attack the Russian school of Beslan Richard Reid, the Shoe bomber. Londonistan includes mainly many media, publishing houses, newspapers (Al-Hayat and Asharq Al-Awsat – both headed by children of the current King Salman of Arabia -) and televisions (Prince Walid’s MBC group). Ben Talal issues about twenty channels), which are not intended for the Muslim diaspora in the United Kingdom, but broadcast in the Arab world; the agreement between the Islamists and Saudi Arabia having been extended to the United Kingdom – full freedom of action, but prohibition to interfere in domestic politics. This set employs several thousand people and brews gigantic amounts of money. It will remain publicly in place until the attacks of September 11, 2001 when it will become impossible for the British to continue to justify it.

flaxgirl

The censorship is already so bad I’m not entirely sure this will make a huge difference. Censorship is absolutely huge. We’re already in the global fascist state, make no mistake.

William HBonney
William HBonney

The fact that you can post that on line, means you are talking bollocks.

A state that censors news, also prevents any mention of its censorship (you’d be receiving a midnight knock now).

Rather similar to the Guardian’s injunction against discussing ‘moderation’ btl.

George
George

You have failed to understand how the Western media works. It can allow “unsuitable” views to flow as long as they are not taken seriously. That is why there has been such a determined effort over decades to demonise “conspiracy theories”.

William HBonney
William HBonney

So, in your fevered imagination, censorship = not being taken seriously?

I don’t take you seriously but I haven’t censored you.

George
George

No, I never said “censorship”. The moment you have to censor something you have already put yourself in a position of weakness. The aim is to allow information to circulate freely but also to manage it so that you can neutralize the potentially threatening parts.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

“The science or logical consistency of true premise, cannot take place or bear fruit, when all communication and information is ‘marketised and weaponised’ to a mindset of possession and control.”
Brian Steere

in case you hadn’t noticed, during your time here writing ”Bollocks” @OffG, we are all here because we’ve been censored elsewhere, indeed almost everywhere in these draconian times online, by your Fascist bosses @Intel, Google, FB, Twitter & the Guardian, to name but a few within your brand of Fascism & you know exactly the brand i’m referring to, so stop pissing piss poor arguments into the wind and do some proper preparation …

and remember you are just obeying orders from your bosses …
(and from lil’ ole’ me, lol) , pull yer’ finger out of yer’ ass, start putting your back into it and get digging’ your own grave 🙂

William HBonney
William HBonney

we are all here because we’ve been censored elsewhere

No, we are here because we’ve been banned from the Guardian.

One newspaper is a long way from the kind of state sponsored censorship employed by China, Russia etc. The fact you can post online the most ludicrous conspiracy theories, secure in the knowledge that it won’t cost you twenty years in a re-education camp is conclusive proof you are full of it. There are people in Russia criticising their government–they deserve respect, you don’t, I’m afraid.

George
George

I wasn’t banned from the Guardian. No-one needs to be banned from the Guardian. In the increasingly small number of articles for which they actually permit feedback, they can simply delete any comments because these comments (allegedly) fail to meet the Guardian’s strict moral code – this code being something of a mysterious entity as the innumerable “What Standards Did This Comment Break” entries on this site prove.

And once again you have failed to understand the Western method of information control. Consider the implication of actually imprisoning those who say e.g. 9/11 was an “inside job”. Such an approach might be an ever so slight giveaway. On the other hand if you not only allow such theories to proliferate under a banner of constant abuse but even pre-empt all credibilty by linking such theories with UFOs, lizards from outer space, actual anti-semitism etc. then – mission accomplished.

William HBonney
William HBonney

And once again you have failed to understand the Western method of information control. Consider the implication of actually imprisoning those who say e.g. 9/11 was an “inside job”. Such an approach might be an ever so slight giveaway. On the other hand if you not only allow such theories to proliferate under a banner of constant abuse but even pre-empt all credibilty by linking such theories with UFOs, lizards from outer space, actual anti-semitism etc. then – mission accomplished.

The fact that lunatic conspiracy theorists aren’t imprisoned, merely ridiculed, is not evidence of Western ‘information control’, rather, your own confirmation bias.

You really should try living somewhere like China, or Russia. Then you’ll see real information control.

George
George

And have you lived in those places? You see – here’s the catch: when we discuss the propaganda system of other countries, we have to look at them through the prism of our own propaganda system. And that is why the best guide is to look at such matters as e.g. the ludicrous expansion of the Skripal story, the blatant lying re: Iraqi soldiers ripping out Kuwait babies from incubators before the first Gulf war, and – oh yes! – the black hole at the heart of the whole 9/11 showbiz extravaganza.

flaxgirl

The fact that lunatic conspiracy theorists aren’t imprisoned, merely ridiculed …

Well, hasn’t the propaganda system worked so perfectly on you, William.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

“Well, hasn’t the propaganda system worked so perfectly on you, William.”

“Billy” to you. “Billy TKid”

flaxgirl

To my mind, fascism is on a continuum and we’re quite a way along it. All MSM exercise massive censorship in the comments (and obviously what they publish above the line) and alternative media exercise censorship by limiting what they publish above the line, even if they don’t censor below the line.

I’ve been banned by a Greens FB page merely for posting something on 9/11 and I’ve been banned by Quora for posting that the Manchester bombing was a staged event. It’s very, very easy to get banned when you say anything about purported deaths not being real – the societal taboos around death are truly suffocating. There used to be hundreds of YouTube videos on staged events and now there are virtually none. Massive censorship on YouTube. Yes, there are other sites where you can post but they’re not as good technologically.

No doubt in Russia and China they have their methods, too. They used to call samizdat in Russia and there is an interesting interview with Gore Vidal (which I can’t find now) where he expresses surprise at how well-informed Russians were. He said that the Russians told him it was because the truth was coded in Pravda and you just needed to know how to read it. So it may be false to think that the Russians and Chinese, because of the massive censorship, don’t know what’s going on. In countries where people know they’re massively censored they find ways to get the truth whereas when people are less aware they simply don’t realise how much information is being kept from them and don’t bother trying to find it.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

“…there is an interesting interview with Gore Vidal (which I can’t find now)…”

https://www.thenation.com/article/times-cries-eke-buries-al-gore/

flaxgirl

Thanks for that Robbo. In the YouTube interview, Gore goes into more detail and mentions about going from one corner of one page to get one bit of the story and another corner of another page for another bit and turning it upside down or something – quite amusing.

John
John

Censorship doesn’t equal not being taken seriously the media has a habit of getting a WELl known we’ll like do public Figure to spout official stories and get someone (usually controlled opposition) to come on and make a tit of himself here’s Noam Chomsky explaining how https://youtu.be/lLcpcytUnWU

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Morning billyboybollocks, are you still in one of your arrogant racist moods, regarding the Chinese you so ignorantly dismiss, when they are culturally, technologically and intellectually WAY AHEAD of YOU ? & Israel & the USA !!! let alone the lazy Brits, lol

Jealousy or fear, transference & projection will get lazy mofos like you, (a typical imperialist english tosser mentality), no street cred. & cut nothing in my chains of KNOWLEDGE !

Knowledge & innovation & creativity & human cultural understanding, billyboybollocks, you best start working your lazy ass and colleagues to the bone, then you may reach out for forgiveness, you cnut !

flaxgirl

Also, in a sense, fake news is a kind of censorship – and they’re absolutely drowning us in it. They’re publishing fake news in place of real news which leaves an important gap and completely misdirects people.

Today, in the SMH I saw three pieces of news, two of which are obviously fake and one that surely has to be. That’s a lot in a relatively cursory reading.

The first one is the continuing “big story” about alleged whistleblower, David McBride, leaking military secrets to the ABC.

One of the things David says in an interview is that they kept the Rules of Engagement tight – numbers of dead Taliban low while numbers of dead Australian soldiers high. He says that they thought they looked good at the funerals but they didn’t care about the soldiers dying.
Comment: Obvious bullshit, right?, and we can see the agenda, can’t we? The Rules of Engagement need to be loosened! Too many Australian soldiers are dying. Iran looming?

For more analysis of the interview and link to it see my comment here: https://www.michaelwest.com.au/afp-raids-and-prosecution-of-whistleblowers-sparks-global-condemnation/#comment-4521235249

The second and third relate to people being detained in North Korea, one an American student, Otto Warmbier, who allegedly died after his detainment in 2017 and the other an Australian student, Alek Sigley, who has recently been released.

This is a CNN video about Otto Warmbier, which shows North Korean exiles talking about what’s going on in North Korea. We are told that one soldier was so desperate for food in a training exercise he ate a live frog not knowing that it was poisonous and became sick and died. In my mind, I was saying Otto’s name as wawm-bee-ay and then I heard it pronounced in the video quite differently – you can guess how. So hilarious – they love playing with their names. Oh, and Otto was 22. How many times can the main player (or other players) in these events be 22? Chelsea Manning, Adrian Lamo, perp at Manchester, witness at Bologna station bombing, etc

Wikipedia tells us:
Shortly after his sentencing in March 2016, Warmbier suffered a severe neurological injury from an unconfirmed cause and fell into a coma, which lasted over a year.[2] North Korean authorities did not disclose his medical condition until June 2017, when they announced he had fallen into a coma as a result of botulism and a sleeping pill.

Seriously, anyone? Seriously?

I hate the way these things nauseate and upset me but then I do have to have a chuckle. I simply cannot help having a huge laugh – just like the perps.

Oh another bullshit story is the counterterror op on alleged (obviously photoshopped) terrorist, Isaac El Matari, aka, Isaak El-Matari, aka Isaak el Matari, aka Isaak El Matari. Guess what his lawyer’s name is – Mohomud Abbas. Nearly choked on my coffee. Still cracks me up a few days later. Having lived in Egypt, I’ve seen a number of transliterations of Mohammad but never that one. It is a genuine, if rare, variation apparently but out of 5,933,561 records in the U.S. Social Security Administration public data, the first name Mohomud was not present.

John
John

OH dear you believe half the tug said about the DPRK and the eating frogs story! Haha did you also believe the whiter than white DPRK girl who stood next to trump giving it big licks and tears on the story of how she watched her dad die on a mountain top just before “freedom”?! Or did he drown? Or was he caught? Or shot? She said all that too she’s even said she had to kill him to save her family and to make sure her dad wasn’t caught?! Cons she said all these stories all about art own father. You do realise that defector seems are Paid for scare stories? (A Real good scare story pike Christians boiled in tar or public executions where the victim turns up alive can get the author of said bullshit up to $800,000)

flaxgirl

Your scanning of my post, John, was a little too quick. Of course I don’t believe the frog story – I quoted it because it’s so ridiculous.

mark
mark

I certainly believe the Daily Star story about Kim Jong Un dropping one of his henchmen into a tank full of piranhas. Sid Scurvy, Ace Reporter of the Daily Star, is never wrong.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

I agree, sadly:-
& For quite some time Flaxgirl, what you say is historical fact: and the Psyops began long before you were born, as you now know, long before 2001. You had quite a few run-ins in the past with Milosevic, (amongst others, inc. admin), so often needlessly i might add, due largely to your failure to view the Big Picture of The Psyop objectively, historically & from a computerised binary perspective, in relation to Zionists longterm strategy & distraction from same. The moment Israel invaded the Golan & sank the USS Liberty (simultaneously on the hour), was also the moment that the roll out of the biggest Zionist Fascist Con-spiratorial Psyop plan was put on steroids, to ramp the internal Fascist Dictatorship & distraction, well evidenced by Milosevic with the following link:

http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/

And many of us who discovered this Corporate Fascism back then, now finally coming to light, have been trying to warn all innocent souls, of “The History of the National Security State” for a VERY long time, (which left us exposed, impoverished, targeted & bullied physically and psychologically or just plain dead!) and coincidently,

there’s a guy from your neck of the woods that has been patiently sitting it out with a strategy of his own: isolated in Limbo & a state of paranoia, waiting, until the internal civil wars happening in Military Intelligence throughout 5Eyes unfolded, between said Fascists and those with more Sovereign Human National interests @heart, (those, who do not believe that the corporate bosses should dictate to all programmers, including especially therefore those equitable morally strong principled altruistic PROGRAMMERS, like Bill Binney) …

You may well still believe him to be a tool in a Psyop, but in reality the whole damn shebang of these TOY computers we utilise is a Psyop today, to possess Knowledge & Data, see ? and you must learn to think beyond this, for legitimate solutions: because someone’s razor, will just scratch the surface and give a tidy image for public consumption, without the prerequisite burden of Data, Algorithms & Proof , that the image is not photoshopped & just another distortion of public record, for another bunch of
Fascists: see ?

Work in progress for everybody, especially the Chinese, Flaxgirl and I sincerely hope that you understand me now correctly & constructively: because something very sad happened just last Saturday, (that of course is wholly absent from the MSM & missing in action on most of the internet frontline, so most are still largely unaware & it is very moving human evidence of the risks, that many inc. myself have taken over the decades, to stand up against this Fascist Bullying, on many fronts !)

http://thephaser.com/2019/07/we-lost-a-friend-at-a-loss-joe-hagmann-passes-away-at-36/

My sincere condolences to the courageous folk @thephaser.com – stunned
yet, doubling down !

Flaxgirl (& Mucho, for that matter, fyi) should note carefully that the Hagman report began immediately after the events of 2001: so I hope one day you get to appreciate those that have risked & lost their lives, long before your indignation was born of mind: many others have had to control their grief & emotions and analyse the burden of PROOF !

First & Foremost, Data speaks loudest, but, only when not manipulated by Fascist programmers, like Google’s intellectually arrogant & scientifically dumb beached &
exposed fascist **Jen Gennai “Head of Responsible Innovation” ** ! ?

Yep, she’s responsible alright, by her own admission >>> the buck stops, in legal terms!
But not just at her desk, for which we need that further burden of proof . . .
Not a quick shave, before some meaningless appearance in
some godforsaken jurisdiction of corporate choice ! ! !

Intel Inside Israel

(I.I.I. 4d ME.Me.me. generation of Fascism,
cannot be permitted to prevail over programmers,
of Automated & Artificial Intelligence )

An Existential Crisis in Epic Times !

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Correction: almost sank the USS LIBERTY …
(you idiot, Tim) 🙂

William HBonney
William HBonney

you idiot, Tim

Finally, a post of yours I can fully agree with 😉

flaxgirl

I admit to a less than comprehensive understanding of things, Tim, but I think my understanding of staged events within the limits of my understanding is perfectly correct and is proven to be so because my challenge to produce 10 points favouring the hypotheses that oppose mine has been unresponded to, despite my engagement with those who fervently support the opposing hypotheses. This simple fact may not convince you – so be it. I think it’s very scientific.

For staged events they roll out absolutely masses and masses of strands and theories about everything imaginable to keep things confused. If you can’t convince ’em, confuse ’em. It astounds me how people respond to all the nonsense, arguing interminably over this, that and the other.

But really, it’s so very, very simple.

9/11
1. Controlled demolition
2. Four faked plane crashes
3. Staged death and injury
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/911.html

John
John

Well certain posts by me from years ago on YouTube are gone completely deleted in their entirety and the general topics that get you deleted are Israel, Russia, the secret services, the Soviet Union /communism, isis not being all it seems to Be and disproving hacking

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

Please get a Guardian Balls posting page up at the top here Off-G.

For such gems as this

‘Asked whether missing lessons to protest against cuts to the school day was paradoxical, the MP for Birmingham Yardley said: “This is part of citizenship education, frankly. The children are learning that we don’t just let people with power walk all over us.”’

Having got in to Downing street to do homework on No 10’s doorstep!

That is up there with the Tory minister feeding mad cow burger to their child. Along with the Greta piece, the Groan’s identity politics and political weaponising of children is gathering pace.

As for Google and co. Yes they are publishers. The sooner we drag Lord Justice Leveson back to complete his Inquiry and implement his recommendations on media regulation, the better.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Absofirkin’lutely 100% agree DG, every word &
all power to Lord Justice Leveson…

Leveson 2:0 never more needed back there in UK,

UGotta’ be startin’ something ASAP,
before the swamp floods every avenue of life, now
beyond a joke , the greatest priority, regulate the MSM,
Platforms & Publishers need Legal Guidance 😉

Monobazeus
Monobazeus

Self censorship is another scourge of this age

flaxgirl

That’s the worst one.

wardropper
wardropper

I prefer to call it being blackmailed, bullied and intimidated into keeping your head down.
Kids who are bullied at school do not regard themselves as having chosen self-censorship.

US of War
US of War

“This is a step backwards for the internet”

Surely not backwards for those in charge, and not for a CIA/military shopfront.

mark
mark

“You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.”

Jesus himself would have been airbrushed out of history if Google and its algorithms had their way.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

“Jesus himself would have been airbrushed out of history if Google and its algorithms had their way.”

No. “Jesus” is OK. Such authorities as Saul of Tarsus (a.k.a. St Paul and Paul the Apostle) as well as bunches of bishops at Nicea et seq, Good Old Boys all, airbrushed “Him” in.

As Dave Allen once noted: “In the name of The Father, The Son and in the hole He goes.”

George Cornell
George Cornell

I would be interested in seeing this algorithm, which surely is there to prevent government embarrassment. A test period where all readers can see what is detected, edited, suppressed, and censored would be very helpful. Although it would likely confirm our worst fears.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

I think that reversed engineering is verboten.

Paul Harvey
Paul Harvey

we should increase our notions of ‘authority’, increase the weight of ‘authority’

The above line is one of the most chilling outbreaks of the cyborgian fascist mind I have come across in recent times…one could easily imagine those words spewing from the fascist podiums of the 1930s.

Many thanks to Kit for highlighting this.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

Well, what will they do if someone bumps off Eric Schmidt? He represents no-one but Wall St investors, after all….

Perhaps that is just one of those things. you know: acceptable Collateral damage. Like killing some nameless Syrians.

actually the best solution is boycotting Google, using new independent search engines owned cooperatively outside US.

Google cannot brainwash anyone unless people use Google….

I gave up using it three years ago. I suggest lots of others do so right now.

Ramdan
Ramdan

Like….??

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

A reasonable way to subvert the search results presented is to get down to the thousands or more of the pages that your search returns.

It’s easy, no need to click to ‘next page’ of results a hundred times. Just do it via the address bar.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

I boycott Google, Facebook, Twitter, Wikideceivia, and all the rest of them. Don’t miss them even slightly; and lack of them is *literally no problem at all.*

I’d also like to remind again that a good way to deal with the ‘Bonney’ troll here is total dading of him/her/them, as in DR DADE: Don’t Read Don’t Answer Don’t Engage; a sure-fire remedy against such amoebic dysentery-of-the-mind. I now skip over the ‘Bonney’ crap-piles here without problems, never seeing anything that they say since I decided to dade him/her/them. This sort of lethal choking is the quickest way do deal with trolls, especially of the GCHQ/Hasbarollocks Central Tel Aviv paid variety. Dade their lies, dig out the real truth for yourself. Always was the best way to get things clear; still is.

Sod Google and all its Anglozionist imperial gangster-capitalist ilk! And sod the dysenteric-effluent trolls! :O)

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Of course you are right, Rhisiart …

Apologies for feeding the provocative racist parasitic sick-minded troll:-

What do you think of the notion of any rebuttal,
existing between ourselves directly, always obviating him and
Ostracising, like ‘Coventry’ ?

Being ignored tends to frustrate ?*Humans*? more than parasites.

Peter C
Peter C

A while back at the height of the pro-EU Project Fear campaign I searched for information on the amount of inward investment from the UK into the EU. Using google the first two and likely more pages (I didn’t bother to go further) contained not a single reference, every single return result was about EU investment into the UK. I switched to DuckDuckGo and got exactly what I asked for.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Did that after the 2016 political interference in the US elections, from Google Executives.
Unfortunately DDG is no longer what it was,
See Robert J. above 😉