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Discuss: Boris Johnson is the New PM

We’ve all known it was coming for some time – and finally, it’s here. Boris Johnson is Prime Minister, it would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

At NATO meetings and G7 summits and UN conferences the leaders of the “free world” will stand up…and one of them will be Donald Trump, and one will be Boris Johnson.

Take a moment to consider how ludicrous this makes us look.

The UK has its own loudmouth with silly hair. A man who elected Mayor of London (I’m convinced) purely ironically. So what now?

Firstly, we should compare and contrast Trump and Johnson. There are obvious similarities: Both are children of privilege, both are known for being anti-politically correct. Both are, being honest, the residual self-image of their national psyches. A true reflection of what the UK and US really are, deep down.

It’s easy to conflate the two, but they aren’t identical.

Trump, for all his swagger and big talk, is actually an idiot. Johnson is not, he’s a smart, educated man who knows his role is to play the clown. To make gaffes, but also play the “he says what we’re all thinking” card.

Trump, although wealthy, is not an “insider”. He’s from outside the political class, he doesn’t understand it, and it has been apparent – since his election – he’s totally out of his depth. QAnon cultists can believe what they want, but Trump is not playing 50D chess, he’s pretty much totally surrendered to the agenda of the Deep State, with token resistance in some key areas.

Johnson, in contrast, is political to the bone. He’s got deep roots, he is an insider all the way. Which is going to make the next few weeks interesting.

For one thing, there’s Brexit. Johnson’s position is obviously anti-EU, but will that change now he’s in office? Is he genuinely a “leaver”, or was his job to so clownishly put the case FOR Brexit he discredits it by association? Or is his anti-EU feeling real, and will be stamped out by the pro-EU civil service/intelligence agencies? (Much like Trump’s plans to leave Syria).

For another, there’s Iran. There have been indications over the last year that the international globalist agenda, The Deep State, has been being driven MORE by the UK than by the US. The UK took the lead on the Douma situation, staged the Skripal false flag, and now is stoking up tensions with Iran.

Where Johnson falls on the Iran question will be key in determining whether or not the “Iran crisis” is a nothing but a drive to increase sanctions and make some money, or whether they really are building up for a full-fledged war.

What does this mean for Labour? Well, Corbynites will – again – want a general election as soon as possible. This is the third conservative leader in as many years, and its obvious the party is a total shambles.

However, the anti-Corbyn elements within his own party will not join in pressure for a GE, because the last thing they want is a Corbyn government. The PLP cannot move against the Tories until Corbyn is removed and someone like Watson or Jess Phillips is leader. Expect new pressure on the same fronts, and increased calls for Corbyn to resign.

The key question for Corbyn’s team is whether to cave to Remain pressure and totally back staying in the EU in an effort to secure the liberal vote (this would be a mistake, and hand the Tories huge swaths of working-class support).

Questions moving forward:

  • Trump is PResident, BoJo is PM…is this a joke?
  • Will Johnson stay the course on leaving the EU?
  • Will there be a GE before the end of the year?
  • How will the PLP increase pressure on Corbyn to resign?
  • Which collection of discredited fools will get cabinet posts?
  • Does it matter?
  • No, seriously, is this a joke?
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Estaugh
Estaugh

Tory Heath sold us into the EU. Tory Slaggy Thatcher destroyed the working peoples social organisation. Tory privatisation whipped them into indentured servitude.Tory-Lite filth columnist Bliar and ADC Brown continued the task of destroying the social infrastructure, Tory “Piggy” Cameron accelerated our impoverishment and physical destruction with “Austerity” and Terrorism hype. Tory Treasona, further tightened the screws using legislation to curtail Inherent and Inalienable Rights, (like voicing a different opinion). And now, Magic, Sun-King Tory, Doris, will, with a wave of his wand, will cure all the cynically murderous, sickening, chaotic and beyond repair circumstances in which the nation is firmly stuck.Hey Presto! A corporate solution to corporate produced problems, to continue with a corporate run government. Smile, (that’s an order); your on camera. See you in the next nightmare.

Molloy
Molloy

……the priceless and risible faux-buffoon. Pure distraction. Obvious fraud.
The diversionary pretence and mind control (instituted by the 0.1% masters) suggesting by indoctrination that corporate whores represent a democratic process.

Faux-buffoon puppets are toyed with then later set aside. When fakes are no longer capable of serving as useful idiots to their psychopath puppet masters, well, another greedy fake will present itself.
It’s all a neo-fascist game to steal other people’s stuff and deny resources to those that need it.

Molloy
Molloy

Using the term “coup” (ref below) implies that there is a democratic institution already in place. Shame on you.
Rigging and fraud and fakery and indoctrination have been around for at least the time since Cornish land was stolen from Cornish people……. (eyes now glazing over).

Wilmers31
Wilmers31

The EU will be so glad to see the back of the UK.

Corbyn trots a difficult path. I am very much with him to re-nationalise some entities but he looks like biting off more that the system can chew.

Chose two entities to renationalise, seriously. When you try to do all things at once, in a hostile environment, you will fail.

binra

Crisis actors interfacing already determined procedures as a public narrative control-diversion?
Is brexit to be the appropriation of UK to IS/US Trade ‘Deals’ (sic) and as part of reconfiguring the EU?

Politics is not decided or determined in the political circus – excepting where it can be presented as if they do.

The primary issue may be that of lack of transparency and accountability to the extent of corporately captured institutional function – particularly the media. As such this represents a coup or usurpation by stealth. Broad spectrum dominance is broad spectrum collapse.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

so BoJo has used the meaningless throwaway line ‘entering a golden age’. As I commented elsewhere, defining a golden age is rather paramount to determine who it exists for.

A golden age is not JRM et al managing money for global millionaires, having six children then claiming that 60 million UK citizens should see Food a Banks as a wonderful sign of charity. Basically that is him saying the economy can go hang for all he cares…..he invests globally for global investors, so there…..

A golden age is not selling off the UK to the US with £200m+ in bungs to corrupt politicians, it is not and any juspdge worthy of the bench would tell UK PM thus in terms sufficiently ascerbic as to make aforementioned PM a global laughing stock. Mr Putin is the most popular President in Russian history and a central plank of his tenure was telling US billionaires and Russian oligarchs to take a hike. If Mr Johnson believes in Britain, he will not be selling it to the USA. End of story.

A golden age starts firstly by a control on consumer demand by getting a control on population. 60 million is more than enough for our islands and George Soros can take a trip to heaven if he thinks otherwise. Economic stability is impossible with uncontrolled migration in and out.

A golden age then continues by aligning metrics of a golden age to human life, not bankers’ wealth. GDP a can increase to infinity through automated trading bots, but 99.999999% of the population do not benefit. GDP is a useless metric.

The first metric of a golden age is the savings ratio of 25-60 year olds, excluding the years when children arrive. This indicates a broad depth of affluence with fair salaries, reasonable rental rates, reasonable house prices, reasonable costs for utilities, transportation and food. It suggests economies are organised for human benefit, not selfish riches. Capitalism only delivers that with broad based savers, shareholders and risk investors. As soon as financial power is concentrated, misery is the inevitable result.

The second metric is human health. There is a very clear descent into illness when certain poverty lines are crossed. psychopaths say ‘let them die’, but leaders of Golden Ages see that as unacceptable and intolerable. In a golden age, those aged 7-70 are generally in excellent health, retain fitness and vigour, rarely need medical treatment other than optical, dental and precautionary medical checks. Immune systems are not compromised due to ongoing struggles to eat healthily and food is produced to optimise human health, not Wall Street profits. high quality produces earn a good living selling direct to local consumers.

The third is emotional and intellectual enlightenment. A golden age does not have fascistic City millionaires calling refugees who escaped killing fields brown scum, nor does it have Pakistani gangs raping white underage girls with impunity. It has Indians happily explaining Diwali to the children of their olde Englishe neighbours, Muslims thanking their children’s schoolmates for understanding how Ramadan works, and Christians understanding that Jesus was not an Imperialist. It has scientists understanding that technical capability is not the same as moral advisability and it has the role of military adventurism robustly proscribed. It does not let appeasement of States less close to a Golden Age to take hold…..

The fourth is the levels of violence in our society and the populations of prisoners incarcerated. a golden age never promotes mass imprisonment to drive corporate profit, nor does any enterprise using prison labour lead to anything but reinvestment in the prison service. It has a prison service happy to see officers migrate to caring roles out in the community as crime rates drop and prison populations decline.

A fifth is the levels of enterprise ownership by UK nationals. This will never be 100%, but critical thresholds must be exceeded to avoid vassaldom. Sustainable communities have enterprises rooted in communities and ownership represented in communities.

A sixth is the state of retail banking and other forms of savings/lending at the citizen/SME level. lloyds TSB has rapaciously sought to destroy UK SMEs for a decade and should have no further place in Business Banking. I remain to be convinced that cocaine money launderers should have any role either. When twenty institutions akin to Triodos bestride our nation, we can talk about a golden age of citizen banks….

A seventh is the mental and emotional health of children, as this highlights the state of families, schools and support services in our communities.

I could go on, but better that others come up with iterations of these first suggestions…..

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

Good Morning – ah i love the smell of fresh meat to skewer and sizzle in the heat!

Stanley was some kind of adulterous globe trotter, Al ‘i want my mammy’ somehow got tracked into the school for future toffs by the rotter, that requires money AND DS friends. Al got called a ‘wog’ no doubt because of the Turkish family connection and started calling himself Bobo the clown – sorry Boris the clown.

So well done Bobo – he has brought his family background into focus.
We will hear a bit more of Stan and co no doubt.

Morrrddorch and its all seeing eye has got his key nazguls into No 10, 11, FCO, Health, Transport and Defence – they have removed all pretence of a democratic choice and political leaders as decision makers instead of muppets.

GOOD.

The battle lines become clearer – the duplicitous politicians have to show their true colours -like the fanboi Ummanas rapturous and never ending standing ovation from the Opposition benches for the departed May, ling after she had left the Chamber; like the mutual worship cabal of Swinson, Harman and Cooper representing womanhood, who should be given special power and position because of being women – remember the craze for testosterone for powerful women a few years ago? They have sold us a lot of pigs in a poke in their time in Office.

I don’t believe that 100k tory fuddy duddies voted for a charlatan, adulterer, foreigner, bumbler – lets see them admit it.

Above all we know that a genuine grassroots mainstream Party having accidentally rediscovered its soul, the current Labour Party, is a major threat to the bloodthirsty neocon neolib 50 year project. Normally they just kill such politicians and supporters and install dictators who govern by death squads and terror – from the Banana republics, to the original 911 – Chile, to the Phillipines, Indonesia, Malaysia… to the destruction of Libya and Africa and ME.

They never thought that they would be resisted ever again at the centre of their hagemony. They never thought their ancient fortress City would be threatened by their owned Parliament.

Hence a bard brexit to escape from the EU regulations. Hence a last ditch attempt at hanging onto centuries of consolidated imperialsm against the rising collective of the opressed lands and peoples, the Eurasian organisation (SCO)that includes China. Russia and India and will no doubt tie up with the EU.

Hence a ‘charismatic’ leader that can be sold to the soft headed Thatchers kids and grandkids – to do what the Blairites failed to do, defeat the Corbynites- a charade of some half remembered glory of Churchill (lies btw) BoJo against the refound mojo of the postwar social democratic Labour covenant for the citizens.

The battleground maybe localised to the British Isles but it is world important- will the plucky British majority see through the propaganda once again and ditch the ‘Churchillian’ blood, sweat and tears merchant and choose international peace and local society again?

anon
anon

Even by the usual (low) standards of politicians, Boris is a liar. If anything, you can rely on him to do the exact opposite of what he promised.

Pledge: I will not close a single ticket office on the London Underground

What happened: *Every* single ticket office on the London Underground was closed (the so-called “travel centres” at a small number of key stations are not adequate substitutes, and the queues for buying tickets or topping-up Oyster cards have got longer since the ticket offices were closed), Boris having made the U-turn barely a year after the original pledge, without seeking a fresh electoral mandate (whilst I wish Zac Goldsmith would stick to his principles long-term, at least he had the decency to resign in accordance with his promise to do so if his party supported Heathrow expansion… speaking of which…)

Pledge: I will oppose Heathrow expansion; if it came to it, I will lie in front of the bulldozers

What happened: Boris came up with a flimsy pretext to avoid the vote on Heathrow expansion, and has since come up with some lame nonsense about respecting what parliament decided (what happened to lying in front of the bulldozers, Boris? and how about respecting parliament’s recent declaration of a climate emergency, which should be mandate enough to completely overturn the paradigm of the Davies commission (in any case, London has plenty of underutilised aviation capacity at Stansted, Luton, and Southend)? and why the threats to prorogue parliament to force a “no deal”?)

Pledge: We will leave the EU by the end of October no matter what.

What will happen: We will still be in the EU come November.

Question This
Question This

I challenge you to name one honest politician. They’re all professional liars, some just better at it than others.

seydlitz
seydlitz

labour lost its soul?how can loose what you never had.

Question This
Question This

At this moment in time, short of the entire PLP getting expelled from the labour party, i think this is the best possible result . Unconventionality May has finally ended in July & with huge relief we thankfully avoided the catastrophe of *unt becoming PM. Short of Farage in power, Johnson is the most likely (probably only) politician to keep the hope of brexit alive, it could still happen (i’m not saying it will).

Also on the plus side its what British politics needs, an old school tory as leader of the conservative party against a true socialist as leader of the labour party, polar opposites then at least there’s a chance of something changing. The liberals have been dealt a blow, their down but far from out. They could still totally destroy British democracy by preventing brexit, but this has kept hope alive.

A third positive is Johnson may well be the final nail in the coffin of the tory parties demise at the very least for many decades to come before any resurrection.

The downside is we still have a tory government, pushing tory policy, (though they’re unlikely to get much through parliament). Its highly likely should he call a general election he will beat Corbyn thanks to PLP sabotage. Unless the liberals decide Corbyn as PM is a better prospect than Johnson serving another 5 year term, but i suspect the PLP would still back a tory government if they cant get rid of Corbyn before the next GE.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

the biggest up issue is actually this new unelected Government changing policies without an electoral mandate. Boris Johnson making it known that national infrastructures should be negotiated between local authorities renders him immediately unfit for any Cental Government office, let alone Prime Minister. no discussion, on that score no new motorways except through local govt negotiations. All commuter infrastructure into London: negotiations between Sadiq Khan and all the SE County Councils. have you heard such rubbish in your life? national strategic infrastructure is precisely what central government should do.

No need for a Prime Minister if everything is devolved locally. Do housing locally, schools locally, NHS locally, have a Home Guard for Civil defence, no Armed a Forces except for wars with foreigners.

BJ can cut his salary and every other Westminster post by 75%, civil service can be cut by 60% in Whitehall and Permanent Secs can earn £80,000 a year based on reduced responsibilities.

To say Johnson has no mandate to axe HS2 without an election is basic. To say he will slash regional infrastructure spending to fund London without a mandate should be a sacking offence. He is the Prime Minister of Her Britannic Majesty’s United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the Mayor of London. If he does not get his act together on basic PM protocol, he needs to hand over to someone who can…..and that person had better do to Dominic Cummings what Dominic Cummings did to half the Conservative Party…..

Tom
Tom

And also no mandate to leave the EU with No Deal – when both the Leave campaign, which Johnson led, and the Conservative manifesto of 2017 said there would be a deal.
If Johnson wants to lead the country out of the EU with no deal, he needs to go to the country or hold another referendum.

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

Priti ‘secret meetings with Israel’ Patel for home secretary – worst possible news for Julian Assange.

mark
mark

A moslem 30 shekel whore will do as well as any other.
She wanted to finance the ISIS holiday camps the Jews built on the Golan Heights out of the UK foreign aid budget.

Mikalina
Mikalina

The ‘Israelis‘ built it, actually and it’s protected by the cowardly IDF who show how ‘manly’ they are by shooting children in the head with illegal dum dum bullets which shatter inside the body guaranteeing mortal injuries. It is a hospital for mercenaries – you can hardly blame the ‘Israelis‘ for taking care of their own.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

I’m still waiting to see proof that she paid for her family ‘holiday’.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

Any NYC dude will do, as long as he delivers for the M.I.C. within their realms of expected expenditure, in order to maintain their corporate fascist control of sovereign government’s computers & operatives,

running “Parallel Platforms” with Soap Operas as opinionated opiates !

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins

you never had it SOoo good 🙂

mark
mark

Shouldn’t we all just dutifully and gratefully tug our forelocks and bow deeply, now that one of our Betters has been appointed to rule over us?

Ben Trovata
Ben Trovata

Today,on G.B. Shaw’s birthday anniversary,I’m remembering him taking-up the thorny (or,sticky ) question of: 1) the un-worthy poor,vis-a-vis the worthy poor…

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer

That £50 note burnt in front of a rough sleeper turned out to be a pretty shrewd investment.

Steve Hayes

When Theresa May tenders her resignation to the Queen, perhaps she will recommend Yvettte Cooper should be invited to form a government. The convention is that the outgoing prime minister gets to recommend whoever they wish. There is nothing to compel May to recommend Boris. Moreover, the person invited to form the government has to be able to command a majority in the House of Commons. Boris’ majority, assuming all the Tories and the DUP vote for him is already wafer thin. Given the noises from people like Dominic Grieve, Philip Hammond, et al. it may be non-existent. Whereas someone like Cooper could easily garner support from the vast majority of the Labour MPs, the Liberal Democrats, the Welsh and Scottish Nationalists, the Green, Independents, Change UK and possibly a significant number of (Remainer) Tories.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

That would be a coup you are advocating rather than the usual recourse of a dysfunctional parliament to go back to the country to decide ‘who governs?’

Steve Hayes

DunGroanin I did not advocate anything. As for the usual recourse you refer to: that was overturned by the Conservative/Liberal Democrat government’s Fixed Term Parliaments Act 2011, which is how Theresa May has survived for so long.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

Didn’t stop her calling the 2020 ge in 2017, just 2 years into the supposed fixed term act, did it?

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

I refer you to my comment below.
May was able to break the FTPA.
Why can’t Johnson?

mark
mark

She is the brainless, stupid bitch who dreamt up Home Information Packs.
Another good Friend of Mossad and Blairite Backstabber.

Mikalina
Mikalina

Whores and bitches, eh? Am I noticing a pattern here?

mark
mark

I don’t know. Spend your time gazing at the clouds or looking for patterns in the fire if you want. Most of these whores and bitches are male. Trump is Israel’s bitch. Bolton is AIPAC’s bitch. Watson is the Board of Deputies bitch. Any old bitch will do for the Chosen Folk.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum

Be thankful folks.
Here in Australia we’ve got a Happy Clapper, ex advertising executive, Coal addicted, compulsive liar for a PM.
Let us pray _ _ _
For a fucking BIG asteroid. Soon.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

Duh…DUD…DUDE!

DOA in my opinion.

Deliver..Unite…Defeat. DEFEAT CORBYN.

Todays imaginary PMQ’s

Congratulations to the huge member for being the 3rd Tory PM to face Corbyn in as many years. Would he care to back up his victory speech?

Deliver what ? A hard brexit?

Unite? But commons already is against a hard brexit!

Defeat Corbyn – bring it on big boy, CALL the election, if you think you’re hard enough!

That is what every commentator should be demanding.

Murdoch has decided that Al ‘I get to make many more yummy mummies’ Johnson to beat the Corbynites, then the cold eyed assassin of the NHS , the utter and complete Hunt. Based on the publics response over the pointlessly prolonged campaign (almost pointless – designed to make sure there is zero time for the clown to crash and burn before recess.. Murdoch also gets to install direct control in No 10, again, with another of his cohort as the clown minder.

So, even the very few words bobo said – he wants to defeat Corbyn – should be held against him at every opportunity – ‘Go on then, call the election! Defeat him. Now. Fight!

Parliament has said NO HARD BREXIT.
Parliament is UNITED AGAINST HARD BREXIT (sort of).
Parliament can not DEFEAT CORBYN (unless they have a junta government installed to stop having a GE).

The chickencoup is underway, this time including the Tories and tbe other puppets of neolib con artistes.

There is no majority to persue any of the 2017 manifeso tories got into government with. There would be no mandate for any made up policy unless they put it to the country.

100 thousand tory members have ..er..spoken, let the rest of us have a say now.

Shit or get off the bucket, Al.

The whole shadow front bench and any true socialist democratic Labour MP should be saying it at every opportunity.

‘Bring it or you are a dud’!

DunGroanin
DunGroanin

Ah the nazgul are released to roam the land – led by the chief amongs them – Cummings.

Dom – is Dr Strangelove.

It was he who bought brexit from FB using the CA/ AIQ SCL control.

Popcorn time as we get Trezza do a Cameron and urge Corbyn ‘for gawds sake GO!’ one more time.

Lols.

George
George

OT but why can’t I access the off-G article “The 2001 Anthrax Deception”?

JudyJ
JudyJ

Agreed. It may have been temporarily taken down by the editors themselves, but certainly I have tried the link to it on the O/G twitter feed and get the message that ‘Nothing was found at this location’. If I’d been searching for ‘Why is Boris Johnson’s appointment a positive move for the country?’ I’d have understood!

different frank
different frank
George
George

That does seem to be the same piece- however, it was the comment section I was wanting to access. The Off-G page still seems to be unavailable.

DomesticExtremi
DomesticExtremi

I think we will need two elections.
The first one to clean out the dog-in-the-manger Remain MPs in Leave areas and the far fewer Leave Mps in Remain areas. this will result in a massively hung Parliament with a significant number of Brexit Party MPs and a lucky few, bewildered Liberal Democrats.
We may eventually leave the EU and there will be a second election where the USP of the Lib Dems and Brexit Parties has been shot from under them and the Tories and Labour can get back to duking it out on the basis of genuine ideological differences as to how the country should be run.
Expect the departure of the many truculent MPs who blocked Brexit and (hopefully) a PLP replete with Corbyn supporters.

different frank
different frank

If the brexit “party” is a political party, where are the branch meetings?

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood

At Nige’s local, presumably.

davemss
davemss

The Tories and Blairites will join hands to stop Corbyn’s policies.
Even if he goes, and John McDonnell takes over, the policies remain.
Having forced JC to look at supporting Remain in a 2nd ref.,
Labour are doomed anyway. (Speaking as a current member, but not for much longer).
Glad I left the country, but unfortunately the pound is doomed too!!

Wilmers31
Wilmers31

The Blairites should not be allowed anywhere near power. They will just carve out another war. They do not have critical thinking skills.

The UK needs to leave the EU because they have a superiority complex. Sir Alan Duncan mentioned that it is a pity Britain is so much occupied with Brexit that she cannot be ‘dominant intellectually’.

When the country cannot afford school for children on Friday afternoons, then Britain is not a successful country. It no longer matters how Britain leaves, as long as they go, because their superiority complex could destroy the EU.

Peugeot
Peugeot

No wonder we can’t afford schools etc, you mention Duncan, he was the one up Bliars arse to get the Sunday opening times ,when he was running ASDA, and cancerous bliar replied nobody will be required to work Sunday, I’ll leave you to work out what happened next,Duncan is a pure bred right wing prick.

bob
bob

… and an ex-con

Estaugh
Estaugh

By all appearances the EU is destroying itself

mark
mark

Whether or not the £ is doomed is a matter of debate.
It is currently $1.25.
It fell steadily from $1.86 to $1.24, losing a third of its value against the dollar.
Why is this?
Brexit? No, Brexit has very little if anything at all to do with it.
There are two reasons.
1. Printing hundreds of billions of toilet paper money backed by nothing but thin air, to bail out the banksters.
From 2010 – 2105, the National Debt more than doubled from £750 billion to £1,650 billion.
Since then, hundreds of billions of more red ink have been added.
This kind of thing normally leads to Zimbabwe style hyperinflation.
But the currency has been sacrificed as an alternative.
2. Zero percent interest rates to bail out the banksters, and to prevent inflation.
The banksters have been given free money to rebuild their balance sheets.
If you or me borrow money on a credit card or from now defunct Wonga, we pay 32% or 5,000% interest. The banksters get free money.
This leads directly to a fall in the currency.

For the next 20 years, everything that goes wrong in the country, bad weather, England losing at cricket, will be blamed on Brexit. This is at best a form of magical thinking that denies reality.

Butties
Butties

From 2010 – 2105, the National Debt more than doubled from £750 billion to £1,650 billion.”
Either you are the oracle, or you do not proof read, making predictions over such a long period.
There is one philosophy that does not allow interest on ‘loans’ or deposits. Discuss.

Ben Trovata
Ben Trovata

Thanks;I read your comments with interest.”In a nice way,I mean. –Groucho Marx”

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

I like Boris. He very funny. I like funny. Funny make me laugh. News not funny. News boring. Teresa May not funny. Teresa May VERY boring. Boris not boring. Every News very funny every day now. Hurrah Boris.

Mikalina
Mikalina

And his comment about investigating child abuse is wanking money up a wall – so funny, I mean, really hilarious – but then I’m not a child…….