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The Rule of the Mob: Labour Conference Banner Banned, Slashed

Peter Gregson

On Sunday 22nd Sept, I, a Labour Party member since 1986, had my banner taken down from outside Conference. Why? The police agreed it was not anti-Semitic. When Zionists first started complaining about it, the police photographed it and referred it to their superiors. Not a problem, they said. The banner could stay.

But the Zionists, from the Jewish Labour Movement (JLM) and the Sussex Friends of Israel (FoI) were incandescent with rage. Repeatedly they complained and when the police refused to act, they took the law into their own hands.

Cllr Joshua Garfield from Newham Council rushed past me at the banner and slashed it in two. The police apprehended him and removed the large sharp scissors he had used and took his details. (Later Garfield boasted about it on twitter.)

The Secretary from Labour Against the Witch-hunt and I repaired it. Yet again it was attacked, ripped in half again by another Zionist. We repaired it again.

At this point local hoodlum Simon Cobbs (Founder of Sussex Friends of Israel and ex-resident of HMP Exeter) stood spread-eagled before it and refused to move. After an hour of this he moved away, whereupon another extremist rushed the banner and this time ripped it in several places.

On each occasion we repaired the banner, and on each occasion the police caught the assailant and took their details.

The police asked me if I would consider taking down the banner; I said I would not do this- I explained this was a matter of freedom of speech; I was in a public space, the banner was not anti-Semitic.

Eventually, a group of Zionists stood before the banner and created a scene, arguing and shouting with a group of us who defended the banner, supporters of free speech. At a certain point the police made the decision that a possible public order offence had been committed. They removed the banner and took it away.

The police explained that it was now evidence in a potential public order charge….AGAINST me!

It would appear the police had been bullied into making a decision into taking my banner on the grounds that I had committed a public order offence, rather than those who had been harassing and attacking me, calling me an anti-Semite. Readers can see the slashed banner here.

Later that day, Jeremy Corbyn waded in. He tweeted:

I’m disgusted that this banner was displayed near our #Lab19 conference centre. We asked the police to remove it and I’m glad they did. This kind of antisemitic poison has no place whatsoever in our society.”

This brought forward 1,800 responses, many from people who couldn’t see anything anti-Semitic about the banner at all. Even the artist, Latuff, said so:

On the Monday, I attended a voluntary interview at the John Street police station where I was interviewed under caution with the duty solicitor present. I explained what the banner was about and why I had brought it to Brighton, to promote political discussion on the weaponization of anti-Semitism.

I explained about the Al-Jazeera documentary on which the banner was based, The Lobby , which portrayed how Israel funds the take-down of politicians sympathetic to Palestine, using groups such as the JLM and the FoI.

I noted the banner had particular relevance at this time. An election was coming and that once the date was announced, newspapers would be full of accusations of anti-Semitism aimed at Labour politicians who have dared to criticise Israel, in an effort to undermine their vote. I thought it important to point out the role a foreign country was having in British electoral affairs.

I concluded by telling the police that I was disappointed in them for undermining my freedom of speech.

The police must now decide if they will ask the CPS to prosecute me; it is likely to be months before a decision is made.

In the meantime, I will pursue claims of criminal damage against those who attacked my banner and against the police for taking it down, for the Human Rights Act of 1998 – Article 10 protects my right to hold my own opinions and to express them freely without government interference, including through works of art.

The next day, Rabbi Ahron Cohen of the Neturei Karta spoke to me and gave his view that he could not fathom any way that the banner was anti-Semitic.

Many are dumbfounded at Corbyn’s tweet describing it as such. When the Lobby film was shown in 2017, its fairness and accuracy was supported by OFCOM and Corbyn called for an investigation, so he knew that Israel pumps millions of pounds into Zionist defamation activities in the UK with the sole aim of shutting down any debate on Israel’s racist treatment of Arabs and Christians.

However, according to the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism adopted by most political parties, to say that Israel is a racist endeavour is now seen as prejudice against Jews.

The banner says: “IHRA: tell the NEC how you feel”, because I wanted Labour members to tell the Party’s National Executive Committee (NEC) to abandon the IHRA definition they adopted a year ago, an action Corbyn himself objected to.

Party members are now beholden to a definition whereby any activist criticising Israel as racist becomes an anti-Semite, a plainly ludicrous claim. This enables Zionists to make endless charges of anti-Semitism against anti-apartheid activists.

Most of these accusations come from the JLM, registered as a socialist society affiliated to Labour.

I am chair of Labour Against Zionist Islamophobic Racism (LAZIR), a group of Labour Party activists which sees Zionism as racism and who want to end its influence, seeking to get the JLM disaffiliated. At the Conference, we distributed 1,500 flyers to Party members calling for this, highlighting the JLM’s role in undermining any politician who supports Palestine and criticises Israel.

Corbyn’s pro-Palestine stance has drawn JLM’s ire and they have declared Corbyn “unfit to be prime minister”. They score Labour candidates seeking election according to their level of support for Israel, working with the media to undermine whose whom they don’t like or who support Corbyn.

A tweet from a man at LP Conference showing plans to attack Corbyn and Labour with “big stories” come election time

One doesn’t have to be either Jewish or in the Labour Party to be in the JLM.

Labour’s founding planks are fairness, equality and social justice. LAZIR point out that JLM’s sole focus is on protecting Israel, sharing none of Labour’s values in their disregard for Palestinian rights.

I emailed Corbyn in response to the tweet, pointing out the Rabbi’s views and that he himself had called for an investigation into Israel’s work undermining UK politicians; he had also not supported Labour adopting the full IHRA definition.

I copied in all NEC members and drew this response from Jon Lansman:

I do not wish to receive any more of your messages. Your obsessive hatred of those you call “Zionists” marks you out as an anti-Semite. To be clear, you do not have my permission to retain my contact details so please delete them and never contact me again.”

Lansman is Momentum leader and the man responsible for getting the IHRA definition adopted by Labour in 2018. He is a strong supporter of Israel and spent years on a kibbutz. He is also one of the nine CLP reps on the NEC and as such was elected to represent the views of CLP members, including me. I consider that as my rep, Lansman must accept that part of his role is to receive communications on Labour Party matters from members.

Labour’s deputy leader Tom Watson couldn’t resist wading in as well, saying in the Jewish Chronicle he was furious about this “deliberate intimidation of Jewish Labour members at the conference”.

He said “Regardless of where and why it is outrageous to come to a conference of a democratic party and to intimidate people who are just trying to make the world a better place.” I do not consider Watson’s unbridled support for Israel is in any way making the world a better place.

I am now in discussion with my solicitors; I will seek redress through the courts.

NOTES:-

Latuff’s cartoon was first published in September 2018, when it was used to illustrate Gregson’s article Why let Netanyahu write the Labour rulebook?

See the footage of the police removing the banner at LBC here. More on this, including the links to the many publications who carried the story, can be found at lazir.org

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Stephen Richards
Stephen Richards

Pro-Palestinian members of the Labour Party are constantly rendered impotent as they are systematically being expelled. Constituency Chairs are terrified that their constituency will be shut down if they dare speak against NEC, but more members suffer for daring to do so. It is difficult for Corbyn to stand up straight without a back bone.

different frenk
different frenk

MASTER OF UNIVE
Please provide credible examples of antisemitism in the Labour party.

different frenk
different frenk

WitchHunt (the silencing of pro-Palestinian UK Labour Party activists)

different frank
different frank

Talking of Gnasher Jew.
THE TROLLS ATTACKING CORBYN SUPPORTERS.
Check out the link to the map.
Are you on there?

different frank
different frank
vexarb
vexarb

This thread is not as trivial as it appears. The Blairite wing of the Labour party is deeply engaged in an Anglo Zio Capitalist war against humanity, which was officially kicked off by former Labour PMs TB.Liar (now Director in House of Rothschild) and Brown (now director in Rothschild’s Carlyle.co) getting Britain to invade Serbia, Iraq and Libya. That AZC Resource War continues in the real world, in Syria, Lebanon, Iran and Yemen:

PacificNorthwest #302010
Ansarullah Quds-1 cruise missile (used in the stunning attack on Saudi Arabia’s Oil crown jewel) has been reviewed by Noted MIT physicist Ted Postol.

His conclusion: “Contrary to claims by fake ‘experts’ in the media, this missile has a range of about 1,400 km…easily able to strike the Aramco facilities, which are only about 1,100 km from Houthi-controlled territory…

NB, the Pentagon has NOT accused Iran of the strike and is keeping quiet, knowing full well that the Quds cruise missile came from Houthi territory… ”

Canthama #302013
Some of the Quds cruise missiles are Soviet designed, so Yemen had them and improved with Iranian technology supplied by Hezb Allah, which has many engineers in Yemen for the past few years.
The West and Israel [AZC vendetta against Iran] opened a north front in Syria; when they realized they had lost Syria they opened a south front in Yemen; and when most recently they realized they were losing in Yemen, they aimed to open an east front against Iran from NATZO forces based in the Persian Gulf — especially from the AZC oil company known as the KSA. Then came the missiles, when lowly backward Yemen showed their technical capabilities.

The AZC Leadership of the West and Israel have freaked out; they realize too late they have completely lost the offensive in a low intensity war, and may need to go on defensive strategy from now onwards [or launch WW3].

Mucho
Mucho

Rothschild, a name which is not mentioned nearly enough when we speak of who is responsible for these wars and the vile nature of this world we live in. I Imagine it is Rothschild who Bibi takes his orders from. Brendon O Connell’s last video was Rothschild-centric, detailed, and stayed online for about 5 minutes. The Beast family

timfrom
timfrom

Here’s another banner, a better one, from outside the Tory conference:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFnftfMWwAEGukC?format=jpg&name=small

vexarb
vexarb

Mucho , I suspect The Yahoo does not take orders from Rothschild (exceeept in his official capacity as Prime Minister of Rothschild’s Israel project). I think he belongs to the group of U$ Dual Citizen Deplorables allied to Trump rather than to the traditional UK Aristocracy of Money who supported Hilary (remember, Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford). The reasons for my suspicion are personal, slight and convoluted. Firstly I noticed that Natan Yahoo got very little support from the Mainstream press when he tried to take over Gaza’s offshore gas fields, even though he used the same strategy that had enabled Bush & B.Liar to take over the Iraqi oil fields. This made me suspect that Natan Yahoo’s capitalist backers were not in the mainstream Rothschild camp ie, did not own the Main Stream Media which had supported TB.Liar up to the hilt.

Secondly, I noticed that Natan Yahoo was the only World Leader who stuck his neck out and supported the election campaign of Donald Trump. The mainstream supported Hilary who later became Grandma Goldman Sachs, which is a Rothschild bank (remember, both TB.Liar and Gordon Brown became directors in Rothschild companies when they left office).

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

Well, well! Looks like Impeachmentgate is headed for Britain: British PM Boris Johnson faces probe over alleged links to U.S. businesswoman:

LONDON — Embattled British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is facing a potential probe into his alleged ties to a U.S. businesswoman.

Authorities in London asked the country’s police watchdog Friday to decide whether there are grounds to investigate Johnson for misconduct in public office.

Mucho
Mucho

Pure theater

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Note to Editor: This article is fomenting hatred toward an identifiable minority, and you are fomenting even more hatred by assuming incorrectly that free speech rights can be used to incite hate towards an identifiable minority under the guise of free speech & the rights paradigm.

I could motion to have Off-G charged with facilitating hate towards an ethnic minority if you don’t believe me.

I like Off-G when there is no racist tripe. Please understand that I really don’t appreciate racism at all. I was raised from childhood not to tolerate it whatsoever.

Keep it up and you will lose your ability to publish on Internet.

best, MOU

Mucho
Mucho

Irish MP reads out quotes made by Israeli Ministers in 2014 and 2015

andyoldlabour
andyoldlabour

Thanks for that, Barrat is very brave and very clear, very few people get up in public and talk the talk like that.

mark
mark

Jezza is just a good little Shabbos goy.
Mustn’t “offend” our Zionist masters and wire pullers.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1

Here is more on the lobby. It should be henceforth simply be called ‘The Lobby’, like ‘The Mafia’ – as it is of the same business model. Extortion, blackmailing, defamation and profiteering from rigged markets. How far the extending octopodial arms of The Lobby™ reach can easily be imagined. They affect all areas of Western life. Make that ‘life’ in general. You may read my first comment further below to understand why it is imperative to make lobbying illegal and bring to justice those individuals whose lobbying created evidenced and provable crimes. Here is the link:

The Lobby™ is controlling everything

(From Iranian PressTV)

jenny 234
jenny 234

Can’t wait for the next general election when the labour party will be obliterated

Aidsbo Silver
Aidsbo Silver

Good for you and I wish you every success !

wardropper
wardropper

I’d say this calls for a better script writer.
J.C.’s response was inadequate.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

If you use terms like ‘Zionism’ you are promulgating hatred towards an identifiable minority and are liable for punishment & conviction in secular society in the Western empire. You are better off not walking around with pictures of Chairman Mao is you want to make it with anyone anyhow, Mr. Gregson.

Best off not to be a hatemonger racist in my humble opinion. You would be better served if you utilized the UK courts if you had demonstrable evidence against the Corporation of Israel but if you start spouting racist claptrap and end up offending Jewish people that live around that kind of racism you will find demonstrators demonstrating against your particular brand of reflexive hatred aimed at ethnicity that you seem to have a problem with.

UK courts & Crown Duty Counsel will deal with you harshly if you use terms like ‘Zionism’ or ‘Zionist’ simply because it is indeed a racist term given that Israel is merely a corporation.

MOU

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood

Excuse me? You mean that the term “zionist” is illegal? Better prosecute Wikipedia then…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

….and the publisher of almost every dictionary.

You and I also used it in our posts, so I think we’d better come quietly officer.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Wikipedia defines the word use for Internet users. Wikipedia does not use the term as a racial slur against Jewish people from Israel or anywhere in the world. Wikipedia does not foment hatred with the definition it lists.

Promulgating hate towards an identifiable minority in any Western sovereign nation is a breach of Charter Rights guaranteed constitutionally across all domain in the Western empire.

To blanket all Jewish people in the world with the tar & brush tactic of racial slur is bad enough but to tar & feather all Jews in the world as being ‘Zionists’ is to cross the line of reasonableness into the perilous territory of racial hatred.

Good freaking luck in the Superior Court of the United Kingdom, Brother Mike.

MOU

Toby Russell
Toby Russell

MoU, would you be kind enough to explain clearly how the author of this article and/or the actions it describes and/or its publishers here (Off Guardian) deliberately use or imply any kind of racist slur by using the words “Zionism” and “zionist”?

You wrote:

To blanket all Jewish people in the world with the tar & brush tactic of racial slur is bad enough but to tar & feather all Jews in the world as being ‘Zionists’ is to cross the line of reasonableness into the perilous territory of racial hatred.

I agree, and sincerely believe that when the editors of Off Guardian express similar sentiments in their comments on their website they agree with you too. But neither this article nor this website is guilty of any kind of blanket treatment of any people that I can detect. If you have any information that corrects my impression, I would like to hear it.

Earlier, you wrote:

If you use terms like ‘Zionism’ you are promulgating hatred towards an identifiable minority and are liable for punishment & conviction in secular society in the Western empire. You are better off not walking around with pictures of Chairman Mao is you want to make it with anyone anyhow, Mr. Gregson.

I understand this paragraph, as does Mike Ellwood above, to mean that any use of words like “zionist” or “Zionism” is racist and thus illegal. That’s a new and bizarre idea to me. Your response to Mike Ellwood is an insufficient explanation of “If you use terms like ‘Zionism’ you are promulgating hatred towards an identifiable minority”.

From Wikipedia’s entry on Zionism:

Since the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Zionism continues primarily to advocate on behalf of Israel and to address threats to its continued existence and security.

And:

Advocates of Zionism view it as a national liberation movement for the repatriation of a persecuted people residing as minorities in a variety of nations to their ancestral homeland. Critics of Zionism view it as a colonialist, racist and exceptionalist ideology that led advocates to violence during Mandatory Palestine, followed by the exodus of Palestinians, and the subsequent denial of their right to return to lands and property lost during the 1948 and 1967 wars.

If some people, whether Jewish or non-Jewish, engage in Zionist activities and knowingly – on Wikipedia’s definition, in your own words non-racist – act on that definition and its complex implications as some sort of moral justification for carrying out repeated destructive acts against a demonstration banner, surely referring to those people in an article as Zionist is a statement of fact. As Zionism is currently active and not located only in the distant past, and seeing as its tenets are part of the reason for the pain and tragedy of the Israel-Palestine problem and most assuredly of that of the Palestinian people, using it as a term to describe an event that is most definitely rooted in that very problem cannot reasonably be said to “blanket all Jewish people in the world”. It is therefore a usage of that word that isn’t “for Internet users” as a neutral description as per the Wikipedia example and yet is also not a ‘racial slur’. I don’t doubt that there can be racist uses of ‘zionist’ and ‘Zionism’, but see no instance of that here.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

First off, I am a WASP and not Jewish, but if you want me to become a Jew just keep bashing them. Second, political ‘Zionism’ is used to castigate Jews as a people and tar them all with the same ideological brush. Not all Jews are ‘Zionists’ nor do all Jews support a notion of ‘Zionism’. Moreover, use of cartoons to denigrate Jews as violent extremists that use attack fighter aircraft to bomb opposition punditry is racist & racism in the form of caricature that specifically targets Jews and their leadership as being terrorists that use military fighter weaponry to silence their political detractors like the Labour Party adherents depicted in the racist cartoon caricature.

Utilizing derogatory & demeaning depictions of Jewish leaders as pictograms of hate & aggression to tar & feather the people of Israel & the world on the international stage of print publishing is essentially organized hatred disseminated across platforms as a form of race baiting & hatred of an identifiable minority ethnic group.

The cartoon depictions are racist, and they imply systematic racism by politics & polemics of race oriented hate that is institutionally organized at the level of party politics in the United Kingdom, and elsewhere too.

CANADA has tested this kind of race baiting claptrap in terms of published race baiting & hate directed at an identifiable minority ethnic group. We have successfully charged & convicted publishers & editors of race baiting hate magazines that are distributed in CANADA. As we write here there is one editor doing a year of his ignorant racist life in federal prison for publishing & distributing hate directed at women & Jews.

The case we processed in quite similar to what Labour is doing in the United Kingdom with these banners of derisive caricature & implied racism.

The banner that was removed by the state is evidence that these types of depictions are viewed as racist by minority Jews living in & around England and the United Kingdom.

Use of caricature to depict Jews as violently extremist in terms of their lobby efforts to stop anti-Semitic behaviour and mass propaganda that paints all Jews unfairly as violent extremists is not acceptable in the eyes of the judiciary in the UK, or elsewhere such as CANADA where I live.

regards, MOU

Toby Russell
Toby Russell

First off, I am a WASP and not Jewish, but if you want me to become a Jew just keep bashing them.

You are accusing me of bashing Jews. That is outrageous. I politely and sincerely asked you to explain your position and gave you my reasoning around usage of the terms “Zionism” and “zionist”, and you accuse me of violent racism in response. I ask you to calm down and think before you respond.

Utilizing derogatory & demeaning depictions of Jewish leaders as pictograms of hate & aggression to tar & feather the people of Israel & the world on the international stage of print publishing is essentially organized hatred disseminated across platforms as a form of race baiting & hatred of an identifiable minority ethnic group.

I agree. But the cartoon in question does not do that. It depicts Benjamin Netanyahu – one leader, not several “leaders” – quite neutrally, without any ethnic particulars, piloting a warplane which has the words “The Lobby” on it. He is firing a bomb labelled “Defamation” at a cartoon depiction of Jeremy Corbyn while crying out “Antisemitism!” three times. How does this “tar & feather the people of Israel”? How does this “tar & feather” anyone? I see a critique of a particular politician’s and lobby’s decisions and political behaviours with regards a particular Labour Party leader. It’s very specific. Of course we can extrapolate all sorts of things from the cartoon’s specifics in all sorts of directions and at all sorts of scales, but very few of such extrapolations would be reasonable. For example, I could accuse the cartoonist as slurring people with acromegaly as infantile and bigoted, but that would be ridiculous.

The cartoon depictions are racist, and they imply systematic racism by politics & polemics of race oriented hate that is institutionally organized at the level of party politics in the United Kingdom, and elsewhere too.

In your opinion. Not in the opinion of a Rabbi, as referenced in the article above:

The next day, Rabbi Ahron Cohen of the Neturei Karta spoke to me and gave his view that he could not fathom any way that the banner was anti-Semitic.

Is the cartoon depiction of Corbyn racist too? Are cartoon depictions of Anglo-Saxon hate and aggression racist, slurring all Anglo-Saxons across the planet? There are countless examples of such cartoons to be found. Indeed, it is a plain fact that there is hate and aggression in the world. All humans of all ethnicities and walks of life are capable of both. Cartoon depictions of human hate and aggression may well attempt to be racist and succeed, but no such depiction is racist merely on the grounds that it is a cartoon. Up until now, you have only asserted your opinion that this cartoon is racist as fact, but signally failed to give any justification as to why it is reasonable for you to do so. All I can discern from your comments thus far is that it is the cartoon’s ‘cartoonishness’ that explains your misplaced moral ire. As things stand, I feel entirely justified in heeding the opinion of the Rabbi over yours and am saddened that our discussion has so quickly become unpleasant.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Sanctimonious twaddle ain’t counterargument, BuckO.

UK Jurisprudence will enlighten you. Read a book, man.

MOU

mark
mark

Canada is even more Zionist infested and Zionist controlled than its neighbour to the south.

mark
mark

Shooting 9 year old kids in the head with British sniper rifles and dum dum bullets is “bad” as well.
But then to Talmudic Supremacists like you the Chosen Folk can do no wrong.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

I’m a white Anglo Saxon Protestant, Anglican, BuckO.

If I was Jewish I would avoid people like you everywhere I went. Not only are your perceptions racist but your myopia & ignorance extends to discourse where you erroneously think pundits must be part of the conspiracy that you have cooked up in your atrophied brain.

MOU

Haltonbrat
Haltonbrat

Masters in Gobbledygook.

mark
mark

I couldn’t care less which religious superstitions and fairy stories you espouse, bucko. Many of the most ardent Talmudic Supremacists are good little Shabbos goys like yourself.

Mucho
Mucho

Not quite the Master you like to think you are eh? You are fighting a losing battle here, people are just too wise to what Israel truly is, and no amount of guilt tripping and fake accusations of antisemitism will stop people speaking out about a nation which shoots kids in the face, shoots cripples in the back and beats blind men while they lie in bed, while spraying raw sewage into innocent peoples’ houses and commiting acts like 9/11, plus many other false flag terrorist events. The Goy know.

Without Saying a Word, Israeli Troops Beat Up a Blind Man in His Bed
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-without-saying-a-word-israeli-troops-beat-up-a-blind-man-in-his-bed-1.6980517

The Disabled Palestinian Slowly Walked Away. Then, Israeli Troops Shot Him in the Back of the Head
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/.premium-idf-troops-shot-disabled-palestinian-in-the-back-of-the-head-as-he-walked-away-1.6743207

The Protest Dispersed. Then an Israeli Sniper Shot a 9-year-old Palestinian Boy in the Head
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-the-protest-dispersed-then-an-israeli-sniper-shot-a-9-year-old-boy-in-the-head-1.7542674

Snipers ordered to shoot children, Israeli general confirms
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/snipers-ordered-shoot-children-israeli-general-confirms

Israeli ministers defend soldiers filmed cheering as sniper shoots Palestinian in Gaza
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/10/israeli-ministers-defend-soldiers-filmed-cheering-sniper-shoots/

Israeli Occupation Forces Spray Palestinian homes with Raw Sewage… What a disgusting tactic.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

More racist tripe is not exactly credible commentary, LessO.

MOU

Mucho
Mucho

Facts. You lose

Haltonbrat
Haltonbrat

“Est-il Permis de Criquer Israel?” – Pascal Boniface
Tu essais de peter plus haut que to cul.

Mucho
Mucho

What kind of lowlife must you be, MOU, to show zero acknowledgement of the crimes I just highlighted, mainly from Israeli news sources. I present clear evidence of disgusting levels of racism, all committed by the state of Israel, which you ignore and then call me a racist. You have no soul. You’re a pathetic, controlled, owned shill. yYou don’t have your own mind. Crawl back into your vile little hole and pray for those victims, what they have to endure at the hands of this evil.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

I’m the kind that ignores your kind, LessO.

Now fuck off, race baiterBOY.

MOU

mark
mark

Gives an entirely new meaning to the retort “dirty Jew.” In this case, literally true.
Rub their noses in it to cure them of doing this.

mark
mark

Better not to be an apologist for Zionist terror, racism and criminality, in my humble opinion.

Maggie
Maggie

STOP PRESS!!
Hodge facing deselection…….

Can’t wait to see what comes next.
Are we are going to see them bring all their big guns out?

peugeott
peugeott

Well what can you expect when you have the likes of Galloway insisting there should be an international ban and prison sentence on anyone talking about the holocaust other than the excepted version, what happened to free speech?

lundiel
lundiel

Of course there was a holocaust, it was a political attempt to eradicate a race of people.
I despise Zionists and their pretend protectors but no comparable number of people has suffered a systematic attempt to wipe them out.
It was without precident in its violence and ideology.

Rod
Rod

Au contraire, approximately 40+- million Russians (of predominantly Christian faith) were murdered during the Bolshevik Revolution. by the very people you’re subliminally ‘championing’.

lundiel
lundiel

I’m not “subliminally championing” anyone. You, however, are speaking Nazi.

“Capitalism and Bolshevism are two sides to the same internationalist coin”

Adolph Hitler

hotrod31
hotrod31

Au contraire, approximately 40 million Russians were murdered during the Bolshevik Revolution by the very people who you’re subliminally ‘championing’.

peugeott
peugeott

Zionism isn’t a race

wardropper
wardropper

Unless, of course, criticizing Zionism is antisemitism…

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

Oh? Then I dare you to go to Israel and try to become a citizen, goy-boy.

col from OZ
col from OZ

Look at Ron Unz website regarding this topic. Ron is Jewish by the way..You been fooled.
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

col from OZ
col from OZ

I apologise their was no need to say fooled, i was also ‘fooled’. Look at comments and also checkout Codoh.com forum.

lundiel
lundiel

You need to bear in mind what the bastard Anders Breivik said in his manifesto. “My enemies enemy is my friend, we’ll deal with the Jews later”.

peugeott
peugeott

There’s a very good video on YouTube by David Cole, himself a jew, called the holocaust, it explains quite a lot as to why there may be some doubt about it, even the International Red Cross has reduced the numbers of deaths from 6 million to I think it’s now 1.2 million actually altered the plaque outside Auschwitz

lundiel
lundiel

Thanks, I’ll watch it.

andyoldlabour
andyoldlabour

The figure of 1.2 million, simply refers to the numbers executed at Auschwitz, it doesn’t take into account the numbers slaughtered at 23 other main camps and the hundreds of other “sub camps”.
There was a camp called Majdanek, where one day in 1943, 18,200 prisoners were executed – just one day!

peugeott
peugeott

No it referred to the six million supposedly gassed at Auschwitz, even allowing for two to an oven would have taken sixteen years without shut downs for cleaning , repairing etc, the chimneys were added after the war, this by the person running it.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1

Wow. How much does one get paid to write stuff like this? Or do you do it for free? Hard to believe. Since you have never been to any concentration camp – because you would know better then – you are making things up. Just like that. Usually, people like you have an agenda and it is not their agenda, since they are just doing what others tell them to.

It is most obvious that you are just repeating wikifakea garbage. Only those who lost any form of critical thinking will fall for the disinformation and lies distributed by the fake-pedia that is nothing but a tool for The Lobby™. Or those who are paid to do so.

peugeott
peugeott

weather is not looking good over the next few days

hotrod31
hotrod31

18 200 eh? Name them …

mark
mark

Looks like they’re upping the ante on the holohoax fairy stories.
18,200 a day.
They settled for “10,000 a day” at Auscwitz, or 3,650,000 a year.
They must have got through the six gazillion in double quick time and been pretty bored with nothing much to do afterwards.

Still, this is all pretty small beer compared to the Talmud’s “4 billion” Jews exterminated by the Romans. Old Adolf was pretty pathetic by Talmudic standards.

Thought Provoker
Thought Provoker

So the moderates in British politics are correct about the far left being hard core anti-Jewish bastards.

Mishko
Mishko

All those manifesto’s. From Known Lone Wolves.
Like different shades of Una-Bomber.

ThereisaGod

” … I will seek redress through the courts.”

Hmmpf. Good luck with that.

You’re a good and a brave man Peter, but the idea that any British Court will choose to see the (establishment) use of the “anti-Semitism” curse for what it is ….?

We won’t be holding our breath.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker

We need to put aside for a moment whether the poster is anti-semitic or not, and freedom of expression.

In reality, the right wing political Zionist apparatchiks and the UK MSM have de facto placed Corbyn into a very tight corner, whether we like it or not, that’s the reality.

Therefore, during an election campaign, associating him with ANYTHING to do with anti-semitism is doing him ZERO favours and his opponents are being handed ammunition to shoot him down with.

With our supposed freedom of speech comes responsibility too, and Gregson and similar people should consider to cease their protests for a few weeks and allow Corbyn to cross the General Election finishing line.

Once Corbyn’s over the line, do what you want. It’s all about being responsible, tactical, mature / grown up.

Maggie
Maggie

Exactly Frank!
The first thing I thought when I saw the poster was that it was someone working for the lobby intending to create another diversion, and dig up the false allegations” again” against Jeremy… and give the Presstitutes ammunition to distract us, and knock Jeremy and the party off track from the business at hand. I actually think he has some tenacity and guts to dismiss them and get on with the task at hand.
As George said above, We all need a Spartacus moment… to get bumper stickers saying
”Anti-Semite” like Corbyn and proud of it.”

Pete Gregson

Dear Frank Speaker,
If you think the Zionists will stay quiet during the election, you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
If we don’t point out that Israel is the cause of all this anti-Semitic nonsense then we are keeping our heads in the sans- and it will cost Labour votes.
Now, more than ever, we need to highlight bogus anti-Semitism.
If we don’t Jezza will never get the keys to number 10. And if he does, he still dare do nothing about Palestine, because the IHRA forbids pointing out Israel is racist.
Did that occur to you?
Pete

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Israel is a sovereign state, and a corporation. Corporate states are modern day businesses that run their corporations according to secular law and the Charter Rights paradigm which is the basis of the Parliamentary system of democracy, Mr. Gregson. Israel is not a human being and therefore cannot be ‘racist’ as you erroneously claim out of pure unadulterated ignorance of the laws of the United Kingdom & the Western world.

You are an offensive racist troll, and the UK courts will charge you with hate speech and inciting hatred towards Jewish people in the United Kingdom. You will lose in court, and the Crown will make sure of it, Mr. Gregson.

People like you just hate everyone because people like you are misanthropes that never learned to live life productively and in a self-actualizing manner that elevates one to be able to teach others knowledge. You spew hate & racism because you are uneducated and frustrated about your own lack of ability to get along with others without feeling inferior because you are not living a life of value.

Haters gonna hate!

Now piss off, wanker.

MOU

nottheonly1
nottheonly1

Haters gonna hate!

Now piss off, wanker.

MOU

You should keep taking your prescription medicine at the recommended interval. Maybe then you wouldn’t come up with such vile, oxymoronic nonsense.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Ad hominem ‘prescription medicine’ comment is indication you have nothing to say, and no education to say it with, wanker. Please learn to read, moron.

MOU

mark
mark

Israel is and always was a racist, terrorist regime, created and sustained by atrocities and war crimes on a massive scale.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Israel is a corporation. Terrorist regimes are led by leadership, or lack thereof. And Bibi is a terrorist, I agree. He launches attacks on Gaza & West Bank for votes so I can agree that Bibi is a terrible criminal individual that is committing crimes against humanity. He is a mass murderer committing crimes of state against historical enemies which is genocide in no uncertain terms.

Bibi is guilty for sure, but the people that are duped into voting for him are not Bibi.

If you want to lay formal charges against Israel & Bibi you had better do so through the UN war crimes tribunal.

Israel is not ‘racist’ but I would bet dollars to donuts that Bibi is.

MOU

Mishko
Mishko

Shake it off, MOU, just shake shake shake it off.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

At least you get me, Mishko.

I get you too, eh.

MOU

different frank
different frank

Are you a hasbara troll aka MKshlomzion?
Also please provide credible examples of antisemitism in the Labour party.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

I am not affiliated with any Jewish groups anywhere. I am not a Jew but if people keep accusing me of being a Jew I will decide to become a Jew and join them fighting the likes of you, DF.

MOU

different frenk
different frenk

You don’t have to Jewish to be a hasbara troll.
In fact, most Zionists are right wing Christians.
Also, where did I say you were Jewish?

different frenk
different frenk

No examples either I see.

peugeott
peugeott

I don’t follow David Icke for a moment, but friends of Israel have shut down three venues that I know of Leicester, Liverpool, and Manchester threatening the owners with bad publicity if they went ahead he will tell you all you need to know about this in one of his videos

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

Well, well! If none of this fake ‘anti-semitism’ stuff ends up sinking Corbyn at the next election, then Labour’s new open-borders platform definitely will:

Labour members have voted overwhelmingly to give full voting rights to all UK residents, committing the party to extend the franchise to millions of immigrants.

A motion tabled by the Labour Campaign for Free Movement was passed at the party’s conference in Brighton on Wednesday morning, after MPs were forced to rush back to Westminster to attend the newly reconvened House of Commons.

As well as extending voting rights, the text commits a future Labour government to closing all immigration detention centres, ending “no recourse to public funds” policies and seeking to extend free movement rights to people around the world.
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The motion also opposed immigration systems based on a person’s income or “utility to big business”, and any caps or targets on the number of people moving to the UK.

Strange. Almost as though Labour wants to lose the next election … just like the Democrats in the US.

andyoldlabour
andyoldlabour

Absolute madness isn’t it Seamus, they are making themselves totally unelectable with crazy policies like these.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee

Apparently they are also going to extend the vote to 16-year olds as well. Anything to swell the Remainer vote.

George Cornell
George Cornell

What are you saying? That your opinion should count for more than theirs? There is a huge number attaining voting age since the referendum. It must just scare you silly. You know what they want. But you want to disenfranchise those plus the 16 year olds. Sounds like democracy to you?

lundiel
lundiel

Even Swinson wouldn’t dare propose this.

lundiel
lundiel

If you think about it on a cause/effect level, it is probably the only way to rid the country of all social security benefits forever. It’s the totally unelectable means of implementing dog-eat-dog libertarianism tied to perpetual economic growth with no safety net.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

Yup. As someone (I think it may have been Milton Friedman) once said: ‘You can either have a welfare state or you can have open borders, but you can’t long have both.’

Capricornia Man
Capricornia Man

The motion incorporates several proposals, SOME of which I would support, i.e. decent treatment for refugees and migrants. Where it goes wrong is in handing the vote to non-citizens. If you’re resident in a country but you haven’t committed yourself to the extent of acquiring citizenship, you can’t expect to participate in the governing of that country. The notion of a re-run of the Brexit referendum is contentious enough, but to allow non-citizens to vote in it reeks of electoral manipulation, remainer-style.

lundiel
lundiel

Google “Sussex Friends of Israel”…….they’re a bunch of fanatical nut jobs.

Gezzah Potts

Did just then. Wow…. I scrolled down as far as Sept 19th, couldn’t go any further Lundiel. They’re actually a cult. The language, the searing self righteousness, playing the victim, the delusional thinking; theyre a cult. One that supports Apartheid and the murderous oppression of the Palestinians. More unarmed protesters shot this week as well. The brutality just goes on and on.