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Climate and the Money Trail

F. William Engdahl

Climate. Now who wudda thought. The very mega-corporations and mega-billionaires behind the globalization of the world economy over recent decades, whose pursuit of shareholder value and cost reduction who have wreaked so much damage to our environment both in the industrial world and in the under-developed economies of Africa, Asia, Latin America, are the leading backers of the “grassroots” decarbonization movement from Sweden to Germany to the USA and beyond.

Is it pangs of guilty conscience, or could it be a deeper agenda of the financialization of the very air we breathe and more?

Whatever one may believe about the dangers of CO2 and risks of global warming creating a global catastrophe of 1.5 to 2 degree Celsius average temperature rise in the next roughly 12 years, it is worth noting who is promoting the current flood of propaganda and climate activism.

Green Finance

Several years before Al Gore and others decided to use a young Swedish school girl to be the poster child for climate action urgency, or in the USA the call of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for a complete reorganization of the economy around a Green New Deal, the giants of finance began devising schemes for steering hundreds of billions of future funds to investments in often worthless “climate” companies.

In 2013 after years of careful preparation, a Swedish real estate company, Vasakronan, issued the first corporate “Green Bond.” They were followed by others including Apple, SNCF and the major French bank Credit Agricole.

In November 2013 Elon Musk’s problem-riddled Tesla Energy issued the first solar asset-backed security. Today according to something called the Climate Bonds Initiative, more than $500 billion in such Green Bonds are outstanding.

The creators of the bond idea state their aim is to win over a major share of the $45 trillion of assets under management globally which have made nominal commitment to invest in “climate friendly” projects.

Bonnie Prince Charles, future UK Monarch, along with the Bank of England and City of London finance have promoted “green financial instruments,” led by Green Bonds, to redirect pension plans and mutual funds towards green projects. A key player in the linking of world financial institutions with the Green Agenda is outgoing Bank of England head Mark Carney.

In December 2015, the Bank for International Settlements’ Financial Stability Board (FSB), chaired then by Carney, created the Task Force on Climate-related Financial Disclosure (TCFD), to advise “investors, lenders and insurance about climate related risks.” That was certainly a bizarre focus for world central bankers.

In 2016 the TCFD along with the City of London Corporation and the UK Government initiated the Green Finance Initiative, aiming to channel trillions of dollars to “green” investments. The central bankers of the FSB nominated 31 people to form the TCFD.

Chaired by billionaire Michael Bloomberg of the financial wire, it includes key people from JP MorganChase; from BlackRock–one of the world’s biggest asset managers with almost $7 trillion; Barclays Bank; HSBC, the London-Hong Kong bank repeatedly fined for laundering drug and other black funds; Swiss Re, the world’s second largest reinsurance; China’s ICBC bank; Tata Steel, ENI oil, Dow Chemical, mining giant BHP Billington and David Blood of Al Gore’s Generation Investment LLC. In effect it seems the foxes are writing the rules for the new Green Hen House.

Bank of England’s Carney was also a key actor in efforts to make the City of London into the financial center of global Green Finance. The outgoing UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, Philip Hammond, in July 2019 released a White Paper, “Green Finance Strategy: Transforming Finance for a Greener Future.”

The paper states:

One of the most influential initiatives to emerge is the Financial Stability Board’s private sector Task Force on Climate-related Financial Disclosures (TCFD), supported by Mark Carney and chaired by Michael Bloomberg. This has been endorsed by institutions representing $118 trillion of assets globally.”

There seems to be a plan here. The plan is the financialization of the entire world economy using fear of an end of world scenario to reach arbitrary aims such as “net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.”

Goldman Sachs Key Actor

The omnipresent Wall Street bank, Goldman Sachs, which spawned among others ECB outgoing President Mario Draghi and Bank of England head Carney, has just unveiled the first global index of top-ranking environmental stocks, done along with the London-based CDP, formerly the Carbon Disclosure Project.

The CDP, notably, is financed by investors such as HSBC, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, American International Group, and State Street Corp.

The new index, called CDP Environment EW and CDP Eurozone EW, aims to lure investment funds, state pension systems such as the CalPERS (the California Public Employees’ Retirement System) and CalSTRS (the California State Teachers’ Retirement System) with a combined $600+ billion in assets, to invest in their carefully chosen targets.

Top rated companies in the index include Alphabet which owns Google, Microsoft, ING Group, Diageo, Philips, Danone and, conveniently, Goldman Sachs.

Enter Greta, AOC and Co.

At this point events take on a cynical turn as we are confronted with wildly popular, heavily promoted climate activists such as Sweden’s Greta Thunberg or New York’s 29-year-old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Green New Deal.

However sincere these activists may be, there is a well-oiled financial machine behind promoting them for gain.

Greta Thunberg is part of a well-connected network tied to the organization of Al Gore who is being cynically and professionally marketed and used by such agencies as the UN, the EU Commission and the financial interests behind the present climate agenda.

As Canadian researcher and climate activist, Cory Morningstar, documents in an excellent series of posts, what is at stake is a well-knit network that is tied to US climate investor and enormously wealthy climate profiteer, Al Gore, chairman of Generation Investment group.

Gore’s partner, ex-Goldman Sachs official David Blood as noted earlier, is a member of the BIS-created TCFD. Greta Thunberg along with her 17-year-old US climate friend, Jamie Margolin, were both listed as “special youth advisor and trustee” of the Swedish We Don’t Have Time NGO, founded by its CEO Ingmar Rentzhog.

Rentzhog is a member of Al Gore’s Climate Reality Organization Leaders, and part of the European Climate Policy Task Force. He was trained in March 2017 by Al Gore in Denver, and again in June 2018, in Berlin. Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project is a partner of We Don’t Have Time.

Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), who made a huge splash in her first days in the US Congress for unveiling a “Green New Deal” to completely reorganize the US economy at a cost of perhaps $100 trillion, is also not without skilled guidance. AOC has openly admitted that she ran for Congress at the urging of a group called Justice Democrats.

She told one interviewer:

I wouldn’t be running if it wasn’t for the support of Justice Democrats and Brand New Congress. Umm, in fact it was it was these organizations, it was JD and it was Brand New Congress as well, that both, that asked me to run in the first place. They’re the ones that called me a year and a half ago…”

Now, as Congresswoman, AOC’s advisers include Justice Democrats co-founder, Zack Exley.

Exley was an Open Society Fellow and got funds from among others the Open Society Foundations and Ford Foundation to create a predecessor to Justice Democrats to recruit select candidates for office.

The Real Agenda is Economic

The links between the world’s largest financial groups, central banks and global corporations to the current push for a radical climate strategy to abandon the fossil fuel economy in favor of a vague, unexplained Green economy, it seems, is less about genuine concern to make our planet a clean and healthy environment to live.

Rather it is an agenda, intimately tied to the UN Agenda 2030 for “sustainable” economy, and to developing literally trillions of dollars in new wealth for the global banks and financial giants who constitute the real powers that be.

In February 2019 following a speech to the EU Commission in Brussels by Greta Thunberg, then-EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, after gallantly kissing Greta’s hand, appeared to be moved to real action. He told Greta and the press that the EU should spend hundreds of billions of euros combating climate change during the next 10 years.

Juncker proposed that between 2021 to 2027, “every fourth euro spent within the EU budget go toward action to mitigate climate change.”

What the sly Juncker did not say was that the decision had nothing to do with the young Swedish activist’s plea. It had been made in conjunction with the World Bank a full year before in September 26, 2018 at the One Planet Summit, along with the World Bank, Bloomberg Foundations, the World Economic Forum and others. Juncker had cleverly used the media attention given the young Swede to promote his climate agenda.

On October 17, 2018, days following the EU agreement at the One Planet Summit, Juncker’s EU signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Breakthrough Energy-Europe in which member corporations of Breakthrough Energy-Europe will have preferential access to any funding.

The members of Breakthrough Energy include Virgin Air’s Richard Branson, Bill Gates, Alibaba’s Jack Ma, Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, HRH Prince Al-waleed bin Talal, Bridgewater Associates’ Ray Dalio; Julian Robertson of hedge fund giant, Tiger Management; David Rubenstein, founder Carlyle Group; George Soros, Chairman Soros Fund Management LLC; Masayoshi Son, founder Softbank, Japan.

Make no mistake. When the most influential multinational corporations, the world’s largest institutional investors including BlackRock and Goldman Sachs, the UN, the World Bank, the Bank of England and other central banks of the BIS line up behind the financing of a so-called green Agenda, call it Green New Deal or what, it is time to look behind the surface of public climate activist campaigns to the actual agenda.

The picture that emerges is the attempted financial reorganization of the world economy using climate, something the sun and its energy have orders of magnitude more to do with than mankind ever could—to try to convince us ordinary folk to make untold sacrifice to “save our planet.”

Back in 2010 the head of Working Group 3 of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Dr Otmar Edenhofer, told an interviewer:

…one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.”

Since then the economic policy strategy has become far more developed.

Originally published at Global Research
F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.” He is a frequent contributor to Global Research.
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vexarb
vexarb

No comment, just posting one side of the rhetoric:

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mark
mark

Most of these Global Warming fanatics are just batshit crazy.
And the lunatics are taking over the asylum.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

Not often I find anything to disagree with Jonathan Cook about – but I think he has taken the Greta koolaid.

1. There are man made environmental destructions.
No argument there.
Dodo’s, Giant turtles, carrier pigeons, big ‘game’, Cod, Whales, Tuna, Sharks … Bees, insects …air pollution, urban planning disasters, Flu viruses … smoking, drinking, cocaine, vaping…Nuclear waste, toxic waste, poisoned water…
Etc etc

Almost all of it can be laid at the doorstep of the Anglo Imperialists who came out of Europe over the last 500 years – can we deny that?

2. That Empire is threatened and needs a new rallying point to maintain and expand any further – so the rich can get richer and fuck the poor.

The whole of full spectrum narrative manufacturing machinery has been set rolling on this their next 50-100 year project.

Cory Morningstars work and revelations may be bunkum – but that needs proving. Anyone come close yet? Not Cook, afaik.

3. Greta, the ‘icon’ has been ‘chosen’ and ‘created’.

I suspect Malalaya Yusuf was the model they picked on.
https://www.malala.org/malalas-story
‘In early 2009, Malala started to blog anonymously on the Urdu language site of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC). She wrote about life in the Swat Valley under Taliban rule, and about her desire to go to school’
‘Malala was 11 years old when she wrote her first BBC diary entry. Under the blog heading “I am afraid,” she described her fear of a full-blown war in her beautiful Swat Valley, and her nightmares about being afraid to go to school because of the Taliban.’

BBC – 11 YEARS OLD !!!!! (WTF??? – manufacturing little girl icons much???)

‘On her return, after weeks of being away from Swat, Malala once again used the media and continued her public campaign for her right to go to school. Her voice grew louder, and over the course of the next three years, she and her father became known throughout Pakistan for their determination to give Pakistani girls access to a free quality education. Her activism resulted in a nomination for the International Children’s Peace Prize in 2011. That same year, she was awarded Pakistan’s National Youth Peace Prize.’

THEN SHE WAS SHOT.

‘At age 17, she became the youngest person to receive this (NOBEL) prize. Accepting the award, Malala reaffirmed that “This award is not just for me. It is for those forgotten children who want education. It is for those frightened children who want peace. It is for those voiceless children who want change.” ‘

‘Malala Yousafzai remains a staunch advocate for the power of education and for girls to become agents of change in their communities.’

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2014/yousafzai/biographical/

She is doing PPE at Oxford ! Lives in UK and has dual Canadian (???)/Pakistani citizenship.

———-

It seems clear that Greta is the ‘white’ Malala. And she wants school strikes where Malala wants girls to go to school!

Malala will no doubt end up in a ‘leadership’ role somewhere depending on how ‘traditional’ she choses to remain.

And since we have had MLK, Mandela .. and likes of Dalai Lama, Aung San Suu Kyi, Obama (whoopsie!) and the godfathet of the climate industry Al Gore

( Though Gandhi never got it! Despite having been nominated five times, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi never won the Prize. Following his assassination in 1948, the committee considered awarding it to him posthumously but decided against it — and, instead, withheld the Prize that year with the explanation that “there was no suitable living candidate.”[9]
In 1961, Dag Hammarskjöld, who died after his nomination but several months before the announcement, became the only laureate to be recognised posthumously; following this, the statutes were changed to render a future posthumous prize nearly impossible.[10]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates )

So, lets see how it goes next …

‘The Nobel Prize Teacher Summit is an international teacher conference held in Stockholm every year. Teachers meet Nobel Prize Laureates, top scientists and peace activists around a theme of great importance. The 2019 theme is ‘Climate change changes everything’.’

Next Noble Peace prize winner to be announced – Friday 11 October, 2019.

Any bets? The youngest? An elfin ‘great white hope’ princess? Lol.

vexarb
vexarb

DoneGroaning: “Friday 11 October, 2019”

Must mark the date on my calendar. Oops! it was yesterday:

The Nobel Peace Prize 2019 was awarded to Abiy Ahmed Ali “for his efforts to achieve peace and international cooperation, and in particular for his decisive initiative to resolve the border conflict with neighbouring Eritrea.”

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

Who??
Never heard of him till he ‘won’

May be a well deserved one. For a change. Hope Greta ain’t too upset and continues sailing.

Looks as if the committee got my message🤤

vexarb
vexarb

Dungronin, never heard of him either. The only reason I looked up the latest No Peace Prize was to check your prediction. As for Eritrea, the AZC are stirring up a war there to match their war in Yemen: two sides of the same strategic “choke point” (the Bab-el-Mandel Straits) for control of world shipping.

“That is all you know, and all you need to know” — Keats.

George Mc
George Mc

Any day now, one of those awfully concerned “green” NGOs will issue a report stating that, after vast intensive scientific investigation, it has been conclusively proved that global warming’s true cause lies in public services, “bloated” wages given to workers, too high taxes on the rich, all socialist parties everywhere, books by Marx and Engels, insufficient patriotism, lack of respect for tradition and Godlessness. The only cure will be the reinstatement of Dickensian working conditions, elimination of education beyond Bible studies and a Malthusian reduction of the population to take us back to those good old pastoral days.

bob
bob

we are ALL under attack

from a duplicitous government and an undemocratic elite

try asking your MP about EU Military Union

ben wallace the blue peter minister of defence implies he hasn’t got a clue – about anything …. tralala

https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-4th-october-2019

crank
crank

Worth book marking this vid of Thunberg and Attenburgh lending their ‘brands’ to the WEF campaign.
[Cory M asks why is this not on Greta’s Twitter feed ? – How many skoolstrikers and XR peeps have seen this? ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=178&v=CMOEcUPGi9c
It is truly bizarre how in your face this all is, and how people who have written- literally for decades, about corporatisation of environmental movements are able to ignore the brazen sell out taking place right now.

crank
crank

[From Medialens article :]

‘People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. And all you can talk about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth. How dare you! […] How dare you pretend that this can be solved with business-as-usual and some technical solutions.’

Consider the above linked vid and the extract from Greta’s recent speech at the UN here.
Consider the ridiculous statement by Jonathan Cook in his article defending the Greta :

‘Thunberg is not Wonder Girl. She will have to navigate through these treacherous waters as best she can, deciding who genuinely wants to help, who is trying to sabotage her cause, and which partners she can afford to ally with. She and similar movements will make mistakes. That is how social protests always work. It is also how they evolve.’

How can she navigate ? She is 16 ! It has taken me (and most people I know) decades as an adult to really come to grips with the depth and pervasiveness of the propaganda system and its social engineering agendas. How is this movement going to evolve in the world of controlled social media ? Are XR on bitchute and Gab.com ? No, they are on Youtube and Twitter, Facebook.
How will the ‘movement’ respond to the next big false flag terrorist event, or the unfolding economic collapse ? I think it will become much more radicalised and even more easily manipulated than it already is. But then again, Cook and Medialens accept the 9/11 official story and so show themselves to be pretty clueless about understanding social engineering.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

Excellent point all. I hadn’t seen your comment before posting my own above!

Arby

I can’t express how disappointed and disgusted I was upon discovering Cook’s article on Consortium News. I was a big supporter of Jonathan Cook before this. I found him to be solid.

I was happy to see that a few other commenters (but a minority) were not bedazzled by Cook’s status as a solid progressive (until this) and had some critical remarks. One commenter was Daniel Lazare. I don’t know whether that was the author and frequent contributor to CN who goes by that name, but I responded to his remark (which I was happy to see included a favorable mention of Cory Morningstar’s research) with a simple “Thank you!” and it, along with the other comments I attached to Cook’s article, never appeared. Is CN going establishment?

There’s no end to the betrayal. Progressives who pay attention know about many of the traitors. Gilbert Achcar, a fascist who masquerades as a socialist, is one who we’ve known about for a while. But until a recent Grayzone piece by Ben Norton, I had no idea just how awful Achcar is. The story uses a picture of him appearing on Democracy Now!, where Noam Chomsky is very welcome. And lo and behold, Norton’s article revealed that Chomsky has co-authored a book with Achcar (which, despite my having read many of Chomsky’s books, I didn’t know about). I’ve been dismayed to see Chomsky go from super progressive to establishment, bit by bit, but what’s alarming about this is the fact that Achcar is notorious for invoking R2P when pushing for regime change here and there while Chomsky is famous for exposing that tool of imperialists, including addressing a special UN panel where he spoke against R2P in no uncertain terms. Go figure.

Gezzah Potts

Jumping jellybeans Arby! – we’ve been reading the same things. I knew Achcar was an imperialist gatekeeper years ago – that whole Jacobin/DSA/now defunct ISO crowd are: ‘wolves in socialists clothing’. You can add our frequent troll Louis Proyect to that list. There’s a socialist group here in Australia called Socialist Alternative who are closely linked to the Jacobin – DSA crowd. Complete pseudo fake left. Won’t go near them with a 100 foot barge pole. Yeah, read that peice by Ben Norton at The Grayzone = excellent = one of my go too trustworthy sites. Was quite dumbfounded by Jonathan Cook also. I didn’t even finish his article on Greta Thunberg etc, just went WTF? And exited it. Any ‘socialist’ or ‘progressive’ that promotes R2P is absolutely neither in my opinion.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

Sadly, Jonathan Cook is now one of those sell-outs, too: https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/01/greta-thunberg-the-consolation-of-doubt/
I had some respect for the guy back in the day when he was one of the few who wasn’t afraid to call out the fake-news Guardian. But I guess he just couldn’t resist the charms of Davos Girl.

mark
mark

All this is pure astro turfing by Soros, mega billionaires, Wall Street, The City, and global corporate interests, to promote the quack pseudo religious cult of Global Warming in their own interests.
There is a lot of money to be made out of these mega boondoggles.
Al Gore trousered a cool $500 million out of the short lived Chicago Climate Exchange.
But that is mere chicken feed.
40% of the $21 trillion US economy consists of Wall Street Wide Boys peddling pieces of derivatives toilet paper and pretending they are worth billions. They are salivating over the prospect of trillions more from peddling Global Warming Hot Air Certificates, like Tetzel and his medieval Papal Indulgencies.
Soon everybody will need the endorsement of Little Greta and her well heeled backers and wire pullers, and this will be available (at a price) for anyone who wishes to avoid the wrath of the Green Taliban.
Anyone who objects or queries any of this hysteria will be the new heretics of the Green Inquisition.
Everybody who values their career and their future will have to doff their cap, tug their forelock, and worship at the Great Global Warming Altar.
Otherwise, “You have stolen my childhood! You have ruined my life!! I have no future!!! How dare you!!!!”
All must worship at the shrine of St. Greta. Like Baana and Dusty Boy before her.
And this sets the stage for the biggest heist of trillions of pension assets to finance Green Boondoggles.
After all, older people are Global Warming Criminals and don’t deserve these assets.
Far better that they be handed over to the virtuous Global Warming Heroes (and their plutocratic handlers) to use as they see fit.
Makes the late Robert Maxwell look like a rank amateur.
Plus trillions more in Macron Style Green Taxes for the little people.
BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS/ 11 YEARS/ 4 YEARS/ 27 MINUTES TO SAVE THE PLANET!!!!!!!

lundiel
lundiel

Sums it up nicely.

Gezzah Potts

Follow the money trail and the puppet strings…. Correct again Mark, and many are falling for the Pied Piper routine. Unquestioning. As usual. But hey, think of all the Trillions to be made by those already obscenely wealthy elites. $$$. Nothing much changes, aye.

vexarb
vexarb

Mark, you mean 48 minutes?

Arby

They got nowhere with Omran Daqneesh (dirt covered cutie sitting on a bus or something). His father stepped in and put his foot down. Malala Yousafzai’s parents were too uneducated (despite the father’s having been a teacher) to understand the fakery around everyone’s rushing to attach themselves to Malala. I don’t know what she’s doing today, but I do know that she got off to a terrible start. Bana al-Abed, as Eva Bartlett and Barbara McKenzie report, was used. How she is faring today I don’t know. It’s frightening, but nothing new, the way people use children, whether they are in developed or undeveloped countries and whether or not their parents are educated. Derrick O’Keefe, who helped Malalai Joya write her (good) book, wrote an article comparing the West’s treatment of Malala Yousafzai and Tamimi Ahed that does a lot to show how those unprincipled exploiters operate.

mark
mark

Thanks for that. I couldn’t remember that bint’s name. I knew it was M something, Malaria or something.

lundiel
lundiel

I know nothing of climate change. The questions I would like answering are:
“Is this going to stop farmers poisoning our land?”
“Will it save all/any threatened species?”
“When are they going to actually ban Deisel motors?” (I note a new British designed/built 4×4 has been announced, I assume it’s deisel. It’s called the “Grenadier”…..(bangs head on table)

I don’t care about Greta’s lack of carbon footprint on her journey to New York. I want the same coverage of the fact that a crew of 5 had to fly there to bring the boat back.

axisofoil
axisofoil

Finally!!!!! The Democrats have come come up with a solution and…..possibly a new slogan.

https://youtu.be/QHq82F8n6jw

falcemartello

What else is left for the plutocrats and the oligarchs.
Lets commodify the environment. One can always smell a rat when the msm get on board. Further more a damn insult to any erudite individual. Until we as individual do not instigate a paradigm shift what is the point in having mass demonstrations and using children to promote ur next ponzi scheme.
Mass consumption and the corporatization of all aspects of our lives and the fact that using such emotive arguments with regards to environmental degradation of our society is only giving the elites more fuel in pursuing their agenda of the next phase of their fascistic reality(Technocracy).
Post Scriptum: Wake up
Docius in Fundem : Don’t buy into their propaganda and consume less and don’t support the BORG

alsdkfj
alsdkfj

What is really unfortunate about this article, is the spin is so damn obvious to debunk the climate emergency that is real. Of ____ing course the banks and every other capitalist pig will do their best to capitalize on the situation. Unfortunately (and of course you will see it on this thread) the troglodyte deniers that there is any problem whatsoever, or that it is just solar cycles and other such nonsense will jump on this article and say see? See? Al Gore Al Gore Al Gore!!!!!!

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

You’re missing the point. Even if global warming itself is for real, if the proposed ‘solution’ to it is fake, then what good will it do? It’s just as good as doing nothing anyway, don’t you see?

mark
mark

How will giving trillions to Soros and Goldman Sachs “save the planet?”
And unlimited power to the Green Taliban to regulate every aspect of our lives?
It is now impossible for this country to have a steel industry because of the extortionate cost of “green” energy boondoggles.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz

In terms of simply putting my cards on the table I’ll say that I have grave concerns about human impacts on not only climate, but on our collective devastation of eco-systems globally, and our continuous poisoning of air, land and water, and our own bodies. All of these issues seem of rather clear and pressing importance as human populations grow and our endless growth capitalist madness continues.

This said, to credulously believe that the uber-capitalist class that has been profiting decade after decade through the organized destruction of earth’s very habitability, has suddenly been brought to heel by a 16 year old girl is – well – unimaginable from my vantage point. These are the same array of global forces who didn’t bat any eye while a half-a-million Iraqi children died under their sanctions, but now they feel shame?

Just as I don’t doubt the sincerity of Greta, or the many young people protesting, I also don’t for one minute believe those at the helm of the capitalist machine of global destruction have suddenly gained either perspective and/or a conscience.

vexarb
vexarb

I agree with Gary, this not a simple choice between right and wrong but a hard choice between two rights (or two wrongs). Firstly, it is right to fight against the wanton destruction of the natural environment by “Capitalism red in tooth and claw.” Secondly, anything written by Engdahl must be taken very seriously; if Engdahl says a Conspiracy of Capitalists are paying a Bana-girl to cry, “Save the Planet”, that is probably right as well.

I think Zionist strategy in British-occupied Palestine is a good guide in this situation: “We shall fight for the Environment as though there were no Capitalists promoting it; and we shall fight the Capitalists as though they were not promoting the Environment”.

Ben Trovata
Ben Trovata

“…Juncker had cleverly used the media attention given the young Swede to promote his climate agenda.”[ above],a practice made famous by Saul Alinski![ RIP]

vexarb
vexarb

Ben, never heard of him but here is a quote from WikiPedia:

“Lest we forget where mythology leaves off and history begins (or which is which), the first radical who rebelled against the establishment and won his own kingdom: Lucifer.”

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

Of all those listed as advisors on climate issues, only Swiss Re has any business being there. Swiss Re is a huge reinsurer against weather disasters and has many decades of detailed data on natural events which cause insurance claims to be made. They will have developed sophisticated financial models to ensure that their indurance premiums are correctly adjusted to adverse event frequency and ferocity. So they probably have some basis for saying they know what they are talking about.

All the rest of them are merely muscling in on the latest way to rig markets…

mikael
mikael

Yup, they will not give up the scam, first, whom invented the Co2 scam, find that out where it all began, and then you will know, in Britain, Thatchers regime about Nuke ind. and to get rid of competition of the cheeper coal, they invented CO2, or particles, etc, clouding our sun, before the IPCC desided the sun dont have jack shit to do with earths temp at all, and you idiots stil belive the AGW nonsense, polution, etc to agricultural monocultures, the shit list is long but non of this have anything to do with AGW, they are just more thrown into the same bucket as AGW to have, eh… something to say, about eh…. the envirioment, and biodiversitys, when in Western Norway, Smøla an windmill park have since it started chopped down over 100 White taled eagles, an 747 siced bird, something they dont want to talk about and that creature is highly vital, since ots capable to take out other big birds, as seagals, etc, and thats just One windmill park and now they are poopong up everywhere, while in other countrys as Denmark whom have had this for an longer time realised they are basically useless, is cutting them down and so are Germany, while in Norway they have seen the light, hallelujah, and we are going uh…. green.
Doing something, upgrading the water turbins would have done much, much more, is not even talked about, even when its known, nope, its not, eh….. green enough.

And again, its funny to read the belivers whine about indifels, deniers, buhuhu, and while they claim, of course based upon whats in/on the TV and MSM, witch we all know have an credibility rate ranging in the sub-zero range, is used as an prof, pleeasse, and how many of you have read critics, anyone, anything, right.
Instead of me, since I am an old grump fart, just remind you about previous, uh…. periods, and hyped coolings, to hyped warming, glasiers evaporating to ice ages coming next friday, they never ended this type of hyping senarios, theorys, agendas, showing us horror videos of rising water levels, all based upon the mother of f….ups, assumptions, and theorys witch is made by people whom cant do math, and bakes in an liner growth in the statistics, and thats the advanced scammers, the idiots just cuts and pasits graps to fitt their drooling, and I will just give you an video, and do watch it, because this tells you what you need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=8455KEDitpU

Since I was just skipping into some few issues, I recomend you to read the coments, the belivers never give up, continue with what they think is reason, and denies facts, like decades ago, when this came up, the first thing I seached for was Greenland Ice core drilling results, witch of course contradicts everything the AGW cultistas claims, and by the way, NASA (never an straight answer) is an UssA paramilitary org, and why didnt they talk about the UssA army, whom is the number one burner of oil/fuel, their army burns somwhere aroun 90% of UssA total consumption of fosil fuel, yeeehaaa.

And to remind you, another fact, winter, god old bloody winters are coming back due to the cylic due to our suns radiation, an somewhere aroun an 60 year amplitute, we are going down ward now, etc, and I laughed when the Norwegian state of the art scientific reseach wessel Crownprince Håkon, got stuck in the summer ice half way passing Svalbar, hehe, like the other one, 2 years ago, stuck in the antaritcs, remeber that one, huh, belivers.
But the article is correct, this is about econmic power, the control of it, and do notice, like the refugee scam, aka invasion armys of Africans a.s.o. this is confined to european lands incl north America, only, weird isnt it.
Capitalism, crashing, nope, its an MMT coming down in flames, if you dont get that, you have an problem, that one, is deraling, we have warned you for years, negative intress, etc, the last death ratles of an dying religion, and the high preiests in the castles, aka the Central bankers have to invent another scam to have an option, this is just an trasition period, from an dollar based scam to another one, witch is based upon energy and possibly crypto currencys.
All in all, the article is dead on.
Never think this is true, nothing of this is based upon facts, only prodjections, nothing else than hot air.
Since printing air didnt work, they need something new, an new world order.
Sieg hail, to the Greta Jungets.( i read an coment witch used this, and I agrees).

Yeah, I stil find this debate/deadbeat enritching, it makes me smile and laugh.
Have an nice day, and remeber, Al-Gordia bought an condoe down by the sea side, like Obamalama, yup, and the AGW idiots stil belive.

peace

RobG

Extinction Rebellion are not just the latest con/mind control, they’ve also been conjured up because the global economy is about to crash again. The criminals/psychopaths who rule us know that the pitchforks will really be out this time. Solution: the Greta nonsense; or if that doesn’t work, World War Three.

The biggest problem here, as I see it, is getting a majority of people to understand that the world is controlled by complete psychopaths.

Barovsky

Frankly, I think it’s more complex than some convoluted conspiracy of big capital, if that’s possible. I think especially young people, are looking aghast at what we’ve done with their inheritance and this makes them vulnerable. After all, apparently some 7.5 million demoed on Friday around planet. True, most of them in the so-called developed world.

The questions to ask I think is whether the people/institutions behind XR consciously exploited the fears of the young simply to make money or was it more Machiavellian, a conscious decision to divert the fears away from challenging capitalism.

After all the capitalist classes of the Anglo-American empire think nothing of engineering the complete extermination of entire cultures, Libya especially comes to mind because it was the richest nation in Africa deliberately turned into a slave auction. I am not surprised by even the most outlandish actions of the pirates. They are capable of anything.

RobG

Barovsky, I’ll beg to differ in some respects.

The younger generations are born into a world that they think is totally normal. This is totally natural, because they have no direct experience ocf the world before they existed.

People like you and me (and I’m assuming that you’re a ‘getting-on-for-old bar steward’ like me) understand the post-war consensus, and how, for a brief time, the plebs were given half a chance.

All gone, all destroyed, by Thatcher and Reagan and all the psychos who followed them.

The only thing left now is revolution; and it’s started to happen in France.

Barovsky

The younger generations are born into a world that they think is totally normal. This is totally natural, because they have no direct experience ocf the world before they existed.

I disagree. They can see what’s going down. They follow the news, such as it is, on FB or Twitter, even XR. When a heatwave hits us, or floods, hurricanes, around the world, they’re not stupid, they can see with their own eyes what’s happening. That’s why 7.5 million marched last Friday. The question is, will they understand enough to put an end to this monstrous system of destruction?

Arby

“They follow the news, such as it is, on FB or Twitter, even XR.” I don’t know what XR is. Anyway, I would agree with someone who praised parents for feeding their kinds ‘highly nutritious’ Twinkies and to give as examples of news deep State entitites like Facebook and Twitter is alarming.

Arby

edit: As usual, I meant “wouldn’t,” not “would.”

Barovsky

Sorry, XR = Extinction/Rebellion. As to the rest, I fail to comprehend. Twinkies? Okay, it depends how they interact with either FB or Twit, as to whether they get news or fake news. Off Guardian, Grayzone, all the independent news are available on both platforms. True, they’re censoring some indie, or at least ‘anti-American et al, stuff, but if I go through my selection on my Twitter feed, virtually all the info sources I get via email or RSS, are in the Twitter feed, if I so choose.

I don’t know if OG editors go through their stats to get a sense of who is reading here, but I use WordPress (though not self-hosted) like OG does, so I know what of stats they have access to, at the minimum and I bet that just like my user list (about 400 signed recieve posts), I hazard a guess that very few are lefties.

And surely, this is the point, why the empire trying to censor the Web, they don’t want the ‘Twinkie’ eaters to access real news! And I think to denigrate them as Twinkie eaters, ain’t too cool.

Arby

I knew that! It was the context (apple, pear, brick sort of thing). Ext Reb isn’t a social network!

Arby

“…I fail to comprehend.” Okay.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

The only thing left now is revolution; and it’s started to happen in France.

Exactly. And notice how, unlike with Greta the Davos Girl, the media almost completely ignore the gilets jaunes in France! It appears that some revolutions are just more telegenic than others.

Arby

Exactly!

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

Younger folks demonstrate easily. They are easily emotionally aroused but are usually less than fully informed. When I was at college 30 years ago, 21 year olds were demonstrating on leftie issues before applying for jobs with big corporate employers.

It will be same now.

Some things never change.

Ben Trovata
Ben Trovata

I read your comments with interest.Rewards are changing!

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

The majority of people are far too ignorant to understand that Democrat & Republican bankers control Congress, and that Congress writes the plans for the psychopaths so that the psychopaths can distract us all from reading the plans that Congress signed into law when we were all too busy infighting on Internet to even notice.

The Bible warns all to beware of tricksters smiling like a friend yet William Jefferson ‘I did not have sex with that woman Monica Lewinski’ Clinton was smiling profusely when he signed the legislation to repeal the Great Depression era led Glass-Steagall Act in front of global televised viewership during his tenure in the Whore House of ill repute.

Not that I am a Bible thumper but the majority in power only do the bidding of banks. And banks collect psychopaths by the dozen daily everywhere in the Western world.

MOU

Northern
Northern

If I’d have been in doubt about supporting the sentiments of this article, seeing a renowned Israeli war crimes apologist take issue with it helpfully confirms which side of the line I should be on.

The long and short of my thoughts on the issue would be – why is this the one item on the agenda which isn’t being manipulated? The entire news media knowingly tells fundamental lies all day, every day, but this is the one time I have to believe it or else apocalypse? Why is the solution always to deny a reasonable standard of living to normal people worldwide not the dismantling of the capitalist system which is causing the destruction?

Lets say for a second that world leaders and the global media aren’t a set of self congratulatory, lying psychopaths and that everything we hear about climate change and global warming is true. If all those worst case scenario assessments are accurate and we do have a handful of years to change course; the ONLY thing capable of saving mankind and the planet is some kind of environmental fascism. I’ll say that again, environmental fascism. All those people in Africa and Asia etc who are on the cusp of obtaining a reasonable standard of living via the capitalist system aren’t just going to volunteer to give that up, so if the assessments are accurate, it will need to be denied to them. I suspect most of the people agitating for action on climate change haven’t thought through this contradiction and would baulk at the idea of their policies being responsible for human suffering, especially their own. We’d see how long western principles held up when the lights were forcibly switched off.

There’s no way for humanity to be weened from the teat of capitalism without untold suffering and death, that’s the bottom line. In spite of all I’ve just written, I still think it’s going to be necessary.

Barovsky

Hmmm…. perhaps it’s more a case of us giving up what we’ve stolen (are stealing) and sharing it with the millions we’ve exploited for centuries, coupled to a radical transformation of our economies. The rich world still consumes the vast majority of the planet’s resources.

Barovsky
nottheonly1
nottheonly1

You just gave me an idea. How about people rotation? There is student exchange, house swapping and with it the wife, too. So why not swap entire countries? In order to get the required experience, hamlets would be first. A hamlet in Burkina Faso changes with a hamlet in Leeds for a year. Then a place like Timbuktu with Austin, Texas. And so forth. All by boat of course. I am sure it would be a win win situation – if not for different reasons than one would presume.

Like the folks from Timbuktu screaming “Get me the … out of here!” Or the people from Austin asking “Could I stay a little longer?”

As always just a thought – this time inspired by you. Thank you for that.

Basher
Basher

“All those people in Africa and Asia etc who are on the cusp of obtaining a reasonable standard of living via the capitalist system” – eh?

RobG

Northern, you only have to look at how the presstitutes and the Establishment handle any given issue/story to get a good idea of what’s really going on.

Extinction Rebellion are obviously totally manufactured rollocks, but sadly many useful idiots have been sucked into it.

Extinction Rebellion never address real issues; and perhaps the most pertinent of them is that capitalism is the complete opposite of environmentalism; ie, unless we completely change our free market way of doing things the world we live in will be completely trashed in not so many years time.

I won’t even mention Fukushima (and neither do Extinction Rebellion).

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

Environmentalism can be approached using capitalism, you know.

It is just that lefties used it as a bandwagon focus.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

“Environmentalism can be approached using capitalism, you know.”

No, I don’t know. Explain how to me. No problems with a multi-part post if one succinct post isn’t enough.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

One simple question:

If armageddon can be achieved in 12 years, how on earth did we survive the last 15,000 years?

The answer: Armageddon will not occur in 12 years, as natural self-balancing systems have multiple back up systems to prevent runaway change.

Runaway change does happen every time we get an Ice Age, of course.

Refraktor
Refraktor

I have twice now heard MSM commentators suggesting that democracy will prove unequal to the task of combating climate change. I forget who said this first it might have been someone on Channel 4. The second was Greg Dyke on Sky. Rightly or wrongly I view man-made global warming as a con trick and so question the purpose of such a hoax which is probably the greatest ever perpetrated.
Articles like this attempt to shed light but I suspect the truth is yet more fundamental: In essence the dismantling of democratic systems worldwide.

Rechenmachetr
Rechenmachetr

That is exactly what is being driven day in day out!

Brian Steere

My first response to the global warming ‘movement’ was to recognise the signature of a scam and leave it.
It persists through the last 30 years or so despite persistent failures of its computer modelled forecasts.
But post truth politic has no concern for facts – because it can always generate alternative facts (sic).

The top down dictate is obvious (to me) excepting its targeting of sympathies cultivated and nurtured as the Environmental movement which had and has legitimacy in calling toxic corporate plunder to account – as well as in uncovering better ways to live with nature instead of enslaving, exploiting and laying waste – which of course extends to people as well as to the biosphere or environmental context of our life.

The corporate capture of governments and all institutions of influence isn’t corporations as such, but the opportunity of technologism and great wealth to effectively reconfigure regulatory structures of financial and corporate and public law in such a way as to mimic the parasite that takes over the host – and the thinking and behaviour of the host.

The nazi-like events of the targeting of youth, and cultivation of hysteria as the basis to bring down order – as if to inaugurate a better world – is deeply disturbing – while the global directives are trickling down in a way that wealth never does – into every kind of regulatory requirement.

The carbon guilting agenda is toxic debt repackaged in complex political instruments by which to seem salvatory to take on and make sacrifice – and demand sacrifice of others. Its agenda is the Internment of Things under 5G + as a global system of energy – and behaviour control. This is considered too big to fail by many who effectively own the world and those who align in its power structure.

How is it that love is so deceived as to give itself to a hateful agenda?

Like this.

I receive periodic mail-outs from Engdahl – with the most recent being a chapter on on the background to the climate agenda – from ‘Myths’ Lies and Oil wars’. I bought the book and am half way through it.

The manner in which deceit has operated through the last century to now is a mixture of the active willingness to do so as a means of gaining wealth and power – and the easily manipulatable nature of human beings under fear, guilt and hate or division.

I recommend the book and I recommend becoming always vigilant to anything that triggers fear, guilt, hate division etc. This is where a false sense of self can be raised on a lie at expense of all that is true.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

How is it that love is so deceived as to give itself to a hateful agenda?

They often do take advantage of our noblest ideals in order to drum up support for evil acts. How many times, for example, have they told us that we’re about to bomb/starve some poor, defenseless little country for the sake of ‘human rights’ or ‘democracy’. See how it works?

binra

Yes – it is often seen that people present the opposite of their deeper fears or convictions – which may or may not be allowed into conscious thought. Illusions can be needed to offset an otherwise overwhelming loss of self. The survival urge may be base and blind binary – but it is also a deep support through great struggle in adversity towards coming through with a basis for survival. The ‘mind’ of survival subjugates all else to its ‘goal’ – which is set in the eradication or undermining of assigned adverse or rival threat. Any means that serves is given support and if more birds can be killed with one stone then the development of great cunning becomes the way of nested levels or layers of deceit. It all comes naturally to an unnatural fixation in scarcity fear, competition and control – and generates scarcity by its attempt to get rid of it – within its own unnatural or unshared private frame of identity.

So as well as the triggering or targeting of appeal to sympathies with seemingly positive goals – there is another component that needs to be understood with regard to triggered and targeted antipathies. It is simply the nature of a subjection to hate and fear that seek anyone, anything, and anywhere, ELSE to put it OUT from self. Until we grow compassion for That we feel – else we either deny and suppress or erupt in harmful expression. These polarities are terror and rage – which can run hot and cold both.

Our narrative self justification or image adjustment runs at survival level as our learned coping for the world we have met and lived. A presentation to ourself and others thus becomes a masking over a hidden hateful and protected sense of survival in terms OF fear, conflict, pain of loss and powerlessness and humiliation or invalidation. This ‘hateful sense of self’ is triggered all the time but compartmentalised and managed for the most part to make life in such terms tolerable – and to grow or develop the personality of the mask AS our self.

This has some sense of self-protection in it – but only as a separate and competing sense of self over – or under other-selves or Them.

‘They’ – who may be more diverse than the word suggests – will each and together have their own ideas of ‘Them’. Generalised judgements are not fitting to a subject-specific Universe but become a short-circuiting of communication to shifting sense of blame and power.

I hold for individual choice and I also hold for collective responsibility. Madness in a family can ‘erupt’ symptomatically in the the one who is sensitive to the unspoken field communication and takes on the ‘stuff’ of unhealed conflicts and exclusions without ability at the time – to hold their own sense of self-boundary. Where do you find your true belonging? What is not yours and costs you awareness of self to take it on? It’s your life – with everyone. We learn by mistakes unless we give mistakes special power to define and deny us.

While science is catching up with epigenetic inheritances – but hardly applying their significance to old ideas of closed system managements and interventions – we are all both the consciousness of capacity to choose or accept – AND a product of our times and timing.
But what you accept has the power to frame or define how you will perceive and respond – while you accept it.

So I do not invest on personality worship – in positive or negative terms. It’s all stuff to me. In one big mad family constellation. What is my involvement, participation or responsibility to myself – truly – in this or any given situation? Can I ‘keep my head’ – connected to my heart – or must I re-enact Ancient Scripts that persist a sort of continuity, but at great cost, that winds up in a Prodigal Wasteland of isolation, poverty, powerlessness, and betrayed or false hopes?

‘Bottoming out’ is the phrase for addiction. Addiction to power or control can never rest in its power. If it kills the goose that lays its golden egg it will find it has NONE.
Perhaps that has to come to pass. Perhaps that is bottoming out?

We may see devices of deceit all about us – and this is part of growing vigilance against succumbing – but the illusion that we are one step ahead of the deceiver is part of its baited carrot. The call to observe and understand ‘human psychology’ (ourselves) is to identify and undo the blocks to relational communication in ourselves by sharing support for that in others. But any new discovery is marketised and weaponised to a significant extent – and so applied psychology is most well funded in corporately driven social engineering and PR.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Given that the Central Bank Fractional Reserve Banking System in the Western Banking empire is insolvent, bankrupt, and down for the count, it seems reasonable that the Central Banks & bankers consolidate with Climate Change Green Bonds lest they end up in receivership to be liquidated.

Everyone involved in Financial Intelligence has know for over a decade that time is quickly running out on the Western Banking System reset. The Green Bond Ponzi Scheme is a global attempt to attain ‘economies of scale’ off of the investment. Without ‘economies of scale’ the ever incompetent central bankers cannot reap outsized monetary gains and grow their portfolios exponentially in order to place world growth on the same growth trajectory as they has with Residential Real Estate Mortgage Backed Securities. And without more Asset Backed Securities in the Residential MBS sector & Commercial MBS sector there is no more betting space in the $1.9 quadrillion Dark Pool Derivatives Universe.

Without a grandiose growth plan that gives the wealth extracting class of finance predators room to exploit on the order of exponential growth we will all evidence implosion of the $1.9 quadrillion Dark Pool Derivatives Universe which will annihilate all the Commercial Banks worldwide that are currently jacked up on speculative investment that grew out of the Late Stage Ponzi Capitalism destruction post-Lehman Brothers debacle & Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.

In sum, whilst the Green New Deal is institutionally derived as the author so aptly stated in the article, it is the only workable plan of inaction that the Central Bankers of the world can take to stave off system wide implosion during this era of Secular Stagnation.

MOU

Louis Proyect
Louis Proyect

Engdahl is not a climate change skeptic. He is a climate change denialist just like Donald Trump.

https://www.sott.net/article/398476-The-Dark-Story-Behind-Man-Made-Global-Warming-Those-Who-Created-It-And-Why

Barovsky

Lou, that may well be so but it doesn’t make his observations any the less relevant. It’s like I said, two issues are conflated here and neither excludes the,other. and the reason is obvious: the fundamental issue is capitalism, climate change is one of the symptoms of capitalism’s insatiable appetite to consume, to destroy. what do they call it? Creative destruction.

Sceptic
Sceptic

“Denier” is always used when the religious is disputed.

binra

Its simply a cunning stunt by which to seem righteous while doing the very thing you accuse.
Not so stunning once you see through it…

I am not ‘religious’ in any sense of organised affiliation, but I am aware that ‘religious’ here is being used as a pejorative term. It’s a put down mate!

So regardless what you choose to do or say – I feel to qualify the accusation of ‘denier’ as a pseudo religious pretension. But I note that to carry this off, you have to feel empowered and supported – and I feel this is what psuedo-religion does – the devil’s pact of a sense of power for a special self set over others.

While corruptions of religious impulse can suffer the sometimes subtle narcissism of self-specialness – I don’t feel the impulse itself is wrong. Love of truth is not specific to science – which is no less institutionally corruptible than was organised religion – a term which for me feels self-contradictory. Organised Life under any structural formation will kill it unless it has freedom to grow and learn and change. That can be seen as a self-destructing ‘evil’ – but the dream or vision of Life on Earth is not of perpetual war – nor machination under collective dictate.

Where is it? Our dream or vision of Life on Earth?
Hijacked by fear-religion?

Ben Trovata
Ben Trovata

A fear is being spread.A fear that we’re being marched into a frightfully drab socialist sameness,of…well,drabness,is an attempt to sell an overheated,under-thought notion. Who doesn’t like color and divertissement,and I cannot see this disappearing!

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

Then try Corey Morningstar instead: http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/01/17/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-political-economy-of-the-non-profit-industrial-complex/

She’s a real, dues-paying environmentalist, not a “denialist”.

Arby

Agreed. I read it all. Unfortunately, I think it could have been better presented. She needs to find a good website and stick with it. And she needs to present things simply. Subjects she delves into are complicated enough already. (I will never grasp money stuff. The broad strokes I can handle. I have the same problem with James Corbett’s offerings. He’s great. But when he talks, in detail, about money matters, I sort of have to take his word for things. I wish I was better educated.) Wrong Kind Of Green and her own website are chaotic and offputting. Content-wise, Morningstar’s extensive research simply ends the debate.

Ben Trovata
Ben Trovata

Rumor has it that Trump put restraining walls around his low-lying golf courses several years ago! [ seven?].So it seems that his denial is for public consumption only!

binra

Louis – thank you for the link. I bough the book as a result of that free chapter (in your link) – and a very informative read it is too.

As for Trump’s utility for smearing ‘populism’ – note that Extinction Rebellion is not assigned the term – its a much overused tactic – and denying is something you clearly know about because you do it under the guise of a communication. Consensus denial is a powerful lever to those who wield it – but all actions have consequences.

Sometimes I chance things in MSM that are almost revealing truths that cannot be publicly said – but in a frame of plausible deniability.

Most fake news is recognisable a legal document and an advert in one. Selling its payload under a plausible legal deniability.

Engdahl documents recorded facts. He does not – in his book – go into whether or not CO2 is or is not a significant factor or even a significant human percentage of a factor in how our global weather systems and cycles operates. Nor does he go into whether the Climate is changing – beyond or outside recorded cyclic variability, nor does he attack the persons of those who engage in underhand and backstage manipulations for their own hidden agenda.
But he does disclose an ongoing trail of oil, energy and resource control as the pivotal influence in perhaps all of the wars and conflicts of the last century into this.

You can still believe that The Rockefeller and other financial and corporate cartel interests have had a change of heart after causing such a mess. That is your freedom. But even so, notice who is to pay for or be sacrificed to the outsourcing of their consequence. People.
Never mind – humans are a cancer on the Planet and we need a disease like the Duke of Edinburgh to incarnate as a disease that wipes us out.

Anyone of a ‘green’ sympathy needs to re-evaluate what exactly they are supporting and why. For a genuine environmentalism has been completely subverted and redirected as a weapon set against the Greening of the Earth.