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Social Media: Ground Zero for the War on Ideas

Julian Glassford

This time last year I cautioned, in a commentary for the libertarian e-zine Spiked, that Twitter’s leadership had finally sold-out on free speech. Much to the consternation of right-minded users of the social network, Jack Dorsey & co’s outfit had begun to surreptitiously stem the free flow of dialogue, ideas, and information via a wave of so-called ‘shadow bans’.

Undeterred by such criticism, sadly the platform has doubled down on creeping censorship and mass deplatforming in the time since. I, myself, recently discovered that many of my tweets were subject to (inexplicable) ‘deboosting’ i.e. the process by which social media comments are deliberately hidden or otherwise obscured by online platforms.

On Twitter the process entails replies to tweets being hidden behind a ‘show more replies’ link buried at the bottom of the list of unadulterated replies below any given post. Consistent with reported shadow bans, the network is doing this without warning, explanation, or effective means of appeal. Affected users are simply left, to languish, in the dark.

In my case, the platform’s support service did not bother to respond or take any apparent action in relation to contact queries on this matter, and no ‘deboost’ information popped up when I searched their help portal. And so it seemed my further contributions were destined to be auto-filtered out of public consciousness, on the sly.

Naturally, this had the not unpredictable effect of disincentivising and generally disenabling my continued participation in broad-based political discourse. Reflecting on this, and seeing no reason to maintain a ghost of a Twitter presence, I have for the time being deactivated my personal account. Mission accomplished, Jack?

In acting in this way Twitter is, in effect, silently going about working to help institute a two-tier system of online citizenry, i.e. ‘digital apartheid’, apparently in an attempt to insulate users from too much information (of the wrong type); and, by extension, perhaps also to minimise moderation costs and complexity. So much for the firm’s guiding values, purportedly centred on belief in: “free expression” and the power of “every voice … to impact the world”.

In an earlier analysis written for the progressive news site LeftFootForward, I explored some of the dangers posed by the run-away train that is (neoliberal) digital transformation.

In it, I observed that “certain major search engines and social media platforms have transformed into data swiping ‘attention merchants’, relentless marketeers, social engineers, and unelected arbiters of truth”. Per the above, this has now been further borne out by my own treatment.

In the absence of due clarification on the part of those responsible, I cannot discount the possibility that I may have been targeted precisely because I dared to undermine the Big Tech Gods in drawing attention to the unethical/unsustainable nature of various aspects of their newfound dominion. However, having investigated, it seems likely that users are being deboosted when they use particular (patterns of) taboo words or links. Users who do not follow all that many other accounts, or attempt to post replies to more than a small number of tweets from accounts with large numbers of followers, may be particularly vulnerable e.g. possibly (mistakenly) targeted by the algorithm as potential bots or ‘bad actors’.

So what? You might say. Really worth kicking up a fuss? You might add. Perfectly understandable responses, but such experiences form part of a wider trend that is in fact rather serious indeed. On a scale of one to proroguing Parliament for an extra week it is … well, let’s just say it’s off the scale. Why? Because, as I observed in writing recently to Jack & pals: “Twitter enjoys an ostensive monopoly of informational & ideas exchange, and in the political domain in particular”.

The comparison to shutting down Parliament may seem a little farfetched; but the stealthy and unjustified smothering of particular voices, in what has swiftly become arguably the most directly and immediately significant pool of public (political) discourse, represents an insidious threat to truly vibrant, healthy, and pluralistic tech-connected (political) systems.

Twitter is now the go-to common resource for most journalists, commentators, and reporting organisations (of virtually all kinds), as well as a large, vocal contingent of their audiences, critics, and subjects alike – including almost all politicians and a great many other public figures. Beyond this, it has become a powerful social barometer and unique tool for not just social networking and commercial marketing, but also non-commercial educating and influencing – across virtually every domain under the sun: from Accounting to Zoology.

Jack’s platform has – somewhat inadvertently – helped to deliver unprecedented improvements in the capacity of the average Joe to scrutinise, interrogate, debate, and remonstrate. For these transformative, emancipatory new powers to be selectively impaired, apparently without good cause, is not just unacceptable but also dangerous. As I have previously warned, it is at once inherently discriminatory, intolerant, repressive, and (hence), by extension, alienating, radicalising, and potentially destabilising.

History records that arbitrarily disempowering entire cohorts pushes them towards the fringes of (digital) society – enhancing the ‘echo chamber’ effect that we are told should concern us all – and hence promotes the (re-)establishment of relatively radical factions and forces. This may suit the narrow purposes of certain interests, for a while at least, but rarely works out well for anyone in the long run.

If the internet is a ‘global commons’, and it most certainly is, then conversational and ideational online ‘markets’, and the (natural) monopolies that have come to corner them, must by now surely be considered integral to this precious, rapidly expanding and evolving digital ecosystem; democratised digital assets in their own right. That being so, the next question has to be: are such increasingly pivotal e-tools and resources not worth protecting from in-house (as well as external) manipulation and abuse? What is good for the goose is good for the gander, after all.

It’s not just Twitter, either. Whistleblowers from Google and Facebook have also reached out to Project Veritas in recent months: exposing targeted human and algorithmic blacklisting and deboosting (mal)practice apparently mostly aimed at interlocutors assumed to be right-wing e.g. on the basis of (automated) syntax analysis. If the reports we are getting are to be believed then such corporations have evidently strayed far from their purportedly humble, diverse, and progressive origins, and are fast becoming a prejudicial and oppressive law unto themselves.

An unknown number of people and organisations are being ever so quietly and gently excluded from the (digital) Speakers Corner and town halls of the 21st century – apparently often on the basis of little more than rough indicators pertaining to politics and linguistics; both a strong function of one’s personal background, education, and lived experience. Our only apparent crime: believing we could be part of “what’s happening” (Twitter’s slogan) and also be ourselves. Is this not the very definition of bigotry? Would it not have Orwell turning in his grave?

In the continued absence of suitable checks and balances Big Tech is now injudiciously constraining – if not (yet) completely purging – public opinion, where and when it suits. Naturally, this runs contrary to modern, inclusive Western values of the post-enlightenment, and is arguably at odds with universal human rights including liberty, equality, dignity, and freedom of thought, speech, and expression.

What we are witnessing, however subtle and underreported, is nothing short of calculated social engineering and political interference on an undisclosed but conceivably industrial scale. Forget largely contrived #RussiaGate narratives, and the like, #MissingVoices is the real deal and it’s happening right now, and right under our noses.

To take my case as an example: I had only a small number of ‘followers’ but my replies – mostly to posts from popular Twitter accounts – had registered hundreds of thousands of impressions prior to the imposition of this curious deboosting impediment. Extrapolate those figures across just a hundred, or a thousand, and never mind a million critical voices, like mine, and the potential systemic impact is huge. And that, it would seem, is the point.

A brief sampling exercise reveals that up to one in three replies to randomly selected BBC news report tweets about all too common media talking points – like Brexit, Trump, and climate change – are being deboosted. Many of the affected accounts/posts appear contrarian/sceptical, e.g. of liberal mainstream narratives, if not consistently left or right-wing, or generally all that radical, nor clearly in breach of the platform’s rules. Indeed, it seems that even some of the UN’s replies to their own tweets are being hidden.

Hard to say quite what the agenda is here, or quite what has gone wrong at Twitter, in the absence of more comprehensive data collection and analysis – or Twitter shedding light on things themselves, but readers can draw their own conclusions. What we do know is that a large tranche of public opinion is being hidden away and, judging by noticeably reduced (political) network activity in recent weeks and months, it seems many have cottoned on and decided, like myself, not to bother trying to be part of the conversation.

As outlined in my earlier commentary on shadow bans, the timing of these acts of (mass) manipulation could scarcely be more conspicuous. It can hardly be a coincidence that these moves come “just as contemporary technological trends have moved the average consumer of news away from traditional, reliably on-message mainstream media outfits” and towards dynamic grass-roots, community based information sharing. With major national elections on the horizon both sides of the pond, this does not look at all innocent and nor does it bode well.

The truth is, the powers that be are losing the ‘information war’ on multiple fronts. From failed attempts to brush off health, safety, security, and energy consumption concerns over 5G, ‘smart’ IoT, and AI technologies, to the decreasing resonance of FUD-based (technocratic) propaganda, the ‘little people’ are waking up and smelling the “covfefe”; and we can’t have that. Shut it down!

Prominent politicians stateside have been rather slow to properly recognise Silicone Valley’s attempts to neuter the net, and have yet to do anything serious about it. That is, other than invite tech execs to appear before Congress only to essentially perjure themselves in having the audacity to claim, on the record, that their outfits are free of bias and do not seek to skew public perception.

By contrast, policymakers this side of the Atlantic have treated us to an Online Harms White Paper that gives censorious corporates the green light to get creative in keeping the (increasingly disaffected) peasantry from encountering too much in the way of (awkward) ‘disinformation’. The agenda, if not the evidence, appears to reflect concern that continued exposure to unvetted data might promote (disruptive) ‘wrongthink’ vs. (stable) ‘groupthink’. Ominously, the consultation document suggests that companies should make disputed content less visible.

Whatever happens at legislative and regulatory levels we, each and every one of us, have an important public duty to ensure that the (digital) commons may be used and enjoyed freely, openly, and on an equal basis by all rule and law abiding (digital) citizens.

Whether the solution is a full-blown digital transformation commission, more narrowly targeted regulation, and/or (the simple threat of) anti-trust interventions, what has become clear is that we urgently need to see more (open source) transparency, legitimacy, and public accountability on the part of major internet monopolies – before Big Tech fully transitions to Big Brother 2.0.

Twitter Inc was contacted by the author of this article for comment but failed to respond.
Julian Glassford is an independent researcher and social entrepreneur whose work focuses on economic, social, and environmental sustainability.

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vexarb
vexarb
Oct 20, 2019 7:48 PM

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The grounds for Prof.Postol’s resignation are in 2nd para from top and 4th from bottom: suppression of scientific investigation into incidents affecting global security. Prof.Postol’s operative word is “honest”: this is not a normal journal rejection, it is the suppression of honest scientific investigation into matters of life and death.

Kudos to MIT. I had feared they would sack Prof.Postol for decent behaviour (the way the UN sacked chief weapons inspector Scott Ritter) but they seem to have kept Postol on as Emeritus even though his honest work on chemical weapons in Syria displeases the U$ regime.

Arby
Arby
Oct 19, 2019 7:43 PM
Neil McCormick
Neil McCormick
Oct 19, 2019 9:13 AM

Interesting that we still have our Corporate media complaining about censorship and clamping down on freedom of speech in countries they don’t like e.g. China and Russia, yet are completely silent when private companies do the same thing in the west – are they doing it on behalf of Western Governments or are they controlling Western Governments’ discourse.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Oct 18, 2019 3:47 PM

USA silicon valley neutering of all online discourse has been manifesting for many years now. I was deplatformed approximately three years ago when Reddit had their shadow banning instituted. The cocksuckers that are engaged in this takeover of the Internet are the same cocksuckers that paid to have it built. USA Military Industrial Complex cocksuckers don’t give a rat’s arse if the twittersphere cohort are getting their knickers in a knot, and frankly neither do I. Anyone that participates on twitter incessantly on a daily basis is fixated on the reinforcement they get from all that attention. Each twit on the twittersphere counts their upvote ‘likes’ as though it is their only self reward system feedback available to them on the social side of life. Twitter is mere distraction from reality and it is used to dissociate from real life. Getting dplatformed or shadow banned from twitter is common every… Read more »

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 19, 2019 2:07 AM

Well said. Reality is not what Twitter says it is, and any reasonably healthy human being knows it.

Brian Steere
Brian Steere
Oct 18, 2019 2:47 PM

Title comment: ‘War on ideas’ is also an idea. The ‘war’ is on freedom of communication on proprietary internet sites – and ultimately a proprietary controlled internet. Where does ‘ground zero’ come in? As for HOW the war is waged – look to doublethink running unchecked as a currency of deceit – NOT to the false flagged ’causes’ that are derivative expressions of a deeper slavery pursued as freedom. War on ideas would thus be war on consciousness itself – by which ideas arise so as to deny it ability to threaten the idea of dominance as denial of others. At some point this can be recognised as identifying with the dead against the living – or BACKWARDS! Until such point the mind runs its world backwards in belief it is right and necessary. Determining what is real, good, true, worthy: When anyone in a position of power selects some… Read more »

davemass
davemass
Oct 18, 2019 2:13 PM

So someone should start another similar platform!
All you need is a lot of server PCs distributed across the web.
Rather like that idea of using everyone’s off-time PC to analyse data looking for Extra Terrestrials, just need to create a very large group of people who can host the platform, with no censorship, other than for abuse, etc.
A real free-for-all…

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 18, 2019 9:10 PM
Reply to  davemass
TFS
TFS
Oct 18, 2019 2:03 PM

I wonder is the platforms use the same tactic as the Police called Kettleling?

Would be interesting find out if posts never make visibility outside of algorithmicly defined echo chambers.

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 18, 2019 1:15 PM

I really can’t imagine why anybody would be surprised that corporate communications platforms are run in the interest of corporations and the people who own them. What would you EXPECT to happen?

The obvious solution to the censorship that centralized corporate control enables, is to use communications networks which are not under centralized control. Anybody can set up an email server, or any other communication system for which public specifications and implementations exist, whereas Facebook and Twitter are corporate monopolies. That’s why they exist, to exploit and control you.

https://joinmastodon.org/

https://diasporafoundation.org/

different frank
different frank
Oct 18, 2019 10:11 AM

If the service is free, than you are the product.

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Oct 18, 2019 9:53 AM

Since all the technology is in the public domain what is to stop private individuals from setting up their own internets (if they have the skills).

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 18, 2019 12:52 PM

Money. The gear is expensive. Who makes the gear? Theoretically, you can build your own global network via satellite. But then you need your own satellites and still pay someone to launch them. The internet must be nationalized and encrypted. Every Nation has to provide access to the servers that are free of charge to private individuals.

smoe
smoe
Oct 18, 2019 1:38 AM

several of my post from prior articles and this one have been removed. ?

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 18, 2019 1:30 AM

In the continued absence of suitable checks and balances Big Tech is now injudiciously constraining – if not (yet) completely purging – public opinion, where and when it suits. Naturally, this runs contrary to modern, inclusive Western values of the post-enlightenment, and is arguably at odds with universal human rights including liberty, equality, dignity, and freedom of thought, speech, and expression. Universal human rights are rolled back as we type. And it is much more sinister than the censorship in comment sections of any kind of political web sites. While I have tasted that bitter poison yesterday, I am also subjected to targeted throttling of content that is undesirable and suppressed. Accessing any Weatern regimes critical website, my bandwidth drops to next to zero. I can prove it. It happens with OffGuardian, PressTV, MintPress, StrategicCulture, GlobalResearch, Jimmy Dore on Youtube and GreyZone, to name but a few. So, when I… Read more »

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 18, 2019 3:59 AM
Reply to  nottheonly1

You need to use a reputable non-5 Eyes based VPN, switched on all the time. Far less opportunity to throttle your bandwidth because they can’t see which sites you are visiting.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 18, 2019 8:17 AM
Reply to  Frank Speaker

Good suggestion, Frank. Any recommendations?

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 18, 2019 12:54 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

How much money are you willing to spend?

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 18, 2019 8:34 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

Proton VPN. Built by the engineers at CERN, covered under strict Swiss privacy laws.
Nothing is perfect, but this is the best one I’ve found, probably tried them all over the years. Not the cheapest, but you get what you pay for. The same guys make Protonmail.

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Oct 18, 2019 9:55 AM
Reply to  Frank Speaker

What’s a VPN?

Frank
Frank
Oct 18, 2019 12:04 PM

A Visible Panty Network

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 18, 2019 12:55 PM
Reply to  Frank

Various Posh Nuns

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 18, 2019 8:37 PM

What’s a VPN?

Visibly Panicked Neoliberals ?
Because they can no longer sniff your web traffic.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 18, 2019 12:53 PM
Reply to  Frank Speaker

I have used HMA for years but struggle to survive and can’t afford it any longer. The open source versions are a pain in the proverbial to install.

hollyPlastic
hollyPlastic
Oct 18, 2019 1:31 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

“Universal human rights are rolled back as we type”

Countries like Australia never had a human rights charter. So, the slippery slope is very slippery.

Essentially, human rights are the enemies number one of neoliberal governments anywhere on this planet.

Endless Manufactured Hysteria, in controlled corporate mass media, is continualy playing a huge role in dumbing people down and distracting them from seeing and thinking about human rights abuses

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 18, 2019 1:26 AM

Twitter Inc, owner and operator of twitter.com has been a publicly listed company (NYSE: TWTR) for over half a decade. Got a bitch about how they run their business? Buy a share and stand up shouting at their AGM. The FTC won’t help you–Twitter doesn’t control the market and the only barrier to entry is the laziness and stupidity of its users and their independent, external exploiters. You’ve been twatted.

RobG
RobG
Oct 18, 2019 12:36 AM

I get fed-up with all this fecking censorsh…

mark
mark
Oct 18, 2019 2:16 AM
Reply to  RobG

No, no, it’s not censorship, it’s just Newsguard, Integrity Initiative and Propornot protecting you from all those nasty Russian bots.

Anyway, where would we be if people started thinking?
Anything could happen.
They might think things they’re not supposed to think.
I always leave the thinking to the horses – they’ve got bigger heads than what I’ve got.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 18, 2019 8:19 AM
Reply to  mark

I didn’t know we were supposed to think at all. I thought we were just put here to consume!

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 18, 2019 1:00 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

You are and agreed to that at birth. It’s in the fine print that came with your citizenship. Thinking is a disease that occupies the mind incessantly. Show me someone that doesn’t think all the time and show you a healed human. The regimes, oops, I mean governments are helping you to overcome thinking through consumption. You pay them taxes for this service. It’s all in the citizenship fine print, beginning at page 8,965.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 17, 2019 10:03 PM

Rather than change the behomoths, convince the populace to move elsewhere. I live very happily with no Facebook, no Twitter and no Instagram. I am just as well informed as most, mainly because I do not waste time on the vast amounts of dross found on both Facebook and Twitter. However, things like Disqus and WordPress are also astonishingly antidemocratic censors. I even had ‘Criticise George Soros, everyone!’ temporarily censored yesterday: a few scornful comments later, pointing out the censorship, everything was miraculously uncensored. But the geriatric societal vandal is very sensitive about criticism…. The best way to avoid censorship is to set up communally owned platforms, be that search engines not created by- and for Americans, online libraries not edited by the CIA, social media not linked to US platforms like Disqus and WordPress etc. Facebook and Google changed after major IPOs. Next generation platforms should avoid the same… Read more »

hollyPlastic
hollyPlastic
Oct 18, 2019 1:08 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

The Internet is designed to excel at functions like

setting up communally owned platforms

and yet, every burp and blurb, every finger snap and every whistle basically passes through the Pentagon’s servers or servers that are readily accessible by the Pentagon and Co. How did that happen, so quickly?

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 18, 2019 1:32 AM
Reply to  hollyPlastic

…every burp and blurb, every finger snap and every whistle [on the Internet] basically passes through the Pentagon’s servers or servers that are readily accessible by the Pentagon and Co. How did that happen, so quickly?

(1) It didn’t happen so quickly.
(2) Guvmint doesn’t fuck around where the Money isn’t.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 18, 2019 8:21 AM
Reply to  hollyPlastic

Not a surprise. The Pentagon invented the internet.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 19, 2019 1:44 AM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

How do you keep your brain so still while your fingers are typing so fast?

Siddo
Siddo
Oct 17, 2019 9:18 PM

Just set up a Gab account and fire away.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 18, 2019 8:22 AM
Reply to  Siddo

Or vk.com.

hollyPlastic
hollyPlastic
Oct 17, 2019 8:45 PM

Is it now clear what ‘free service’ means?

Is it now clear how charitable these CIA-Pentagon-and-State-Department-shopfronts mega corporations are?

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 17, 2019 7:08 PM

Allow me to share my experiences with ‘disqus’ – perused at the so called ‘Truthdig’ website. For some time now, it has become apparent how well manipulated the content of ‘Truthdig’ actually is. After having detected this current between the lines, I observed it to ooze out into the open. The reason for my visits to ‘Truthdig’ were opinion pieces by Chris Hedges. I have been following his articles a while now and noticed no uncertain criticism emanating from the ‘disqus’ comments about his lastest writings. To these writings one has to add, that they have become more shrill over the last month, with the latest piece pointing at “The Age of Radical Evil”. The immediate problem for anybody that has not succumbed to organized delusion/religion, is the equating of the present ‘age’ as being one of ‘radical evil’. Evil. Does ‘evil’ exist in science? Does it exist in architecture… Read more »

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 17, 2019 7:12 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

Of course: “And NO MORE traffic for Truthbury.”

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 18, 2019 8:32 AM
Reply to  nottheonly1

Hedges is an ordained Presbyterian minister with a degree in Divinity, so that’s probably why he’s partial to using terms like ‘good’ and ‘evil’. To be sure, you don’t need to be religious–or even believe in God–to know that good and evil exist. They are all around. Only psychopaths and sociopaths can’t sense them.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 18, 2019 1:05 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

To be sure, you don’t need to be religious–or even believe in God–to know that good and evil exist. They are all around. Only psychopaths and sociopaths can’t sense them.

Again, they exist only in the human realm, or better ‘in the mind’. They are non-physical, but can take physical form – as in building a temple to worship either.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Oct 17, 2019 6:22 PM

Twitter is just a spruced up version of USENET that’s under corporate control so it can be used to generate analytics that can be monetized. Its obviously got improvements over the original USENET but that’s to be expected since its implementation is much newer. It also has corporate oversight over what’s posted, a mixed blessing since it prevents the wholesale spam that degraded USENET and so made it unusable but it also invites censorship. You don’t need a lot of computing power or network bandwidth to run a mail reflector. Unfortunately generations are now schooled to believe that the only way to exchange information is through a Server/App ecosystem, something that can only be implemented inside a corporate environment (cloud computing, managed servers and so on). Since the end of net neutrality also means that communication paths can be managed for profit (and censored as necessary) we are unwittingly enabling… Read more »

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 18, 2019 1:44 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

For “…we are unwittingly enabling the environment that controls us” read “…we are thick as pigshit and twice as lumpy”.

There. Fixed that one for you.

BigB
BigB
Oct 17, 2019 6:10 PM

Echoes of Crank below: the internet as global commons? It is about this point in the film a guy called Morpheus shows up. He tells Julian (who’s real name is Neo): that in ancient history – a lone blind Seer – who live alone in a council flat – prophesied that the internet was in fact ‘Darpanet’ …which was set up by the joint intelligence communities as a ‘Society of Control’. The Seer – whose name we find out later is Nafeez Ahmed – also prophesied that not just Darpanet – but Alphabet – the first of the tech giants – the ”Big Tech Gods” – that came to dominate Darpanet – was also seed funded by the NSA and CIA for ”intelligence superiority”. The rest – says Morpheus – is history. https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e Morpheus then explains that the Society of Control acts as a ‘singularity of objectivity’ or ‘self-constituted Matrix’.… Read more »

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 17, 2019 5:28 PM

“Prominent politicians stateside have been rather slow to properly recognise Silicone Valley’s attempts to neuter the net …”

Just Stateside ?

Discuss.

BigB
BigB
Oct 17, 2019 7:07 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Tim: ‘Prominent politicians’ are part of the ‘Society of Control’. Indirectly, they are part of the mechanism – ‘Darpanet’; ‘Arpanet’; ‘Skynet’ or the Matrix – that sets up the illusion of freedom as a means of control. All that blood and violence on the streets – of mass repression – is messy. Historically, openly fascist regimes did not end well for the administrators of Fascism. 1,000 year Reichs barely last more than a decade. So Fascism got smarter: not more brutal. What if we get the people to agree to self-administer their own oppression? Wouldn’t that be cool? And resource light. With no rivers of blood in the streets that might get us killed. So, today we see no Black or Brown shirts. Only a corporate ‘fascio’ – a brotherhood – administered by consent by men in suits …of an unseen (synarchic) Inner Party and a visible Outer Party –… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 17, 2019 5:06 PM

I am Jack’s uncontrollable urge to stifle free speech.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 17, 2019 5:04 PM

Dorsey, Zuckerberg and the rest of them – all wrong ‘uns.

mark
mark
Oct 17, 2019 4:43 PM

What do you expect?
Look at the people who own and run these platforms.

Then ditch them.
Get a life instead.
People survived for thousands of years without millions of half wits telling you what their dog had for breakfast and every gory detail of their tawdry love lives.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 17, 2019 5:00 PM
Reply to  mark

People are sharing details of their dogs’ tawdry love lives, now?!?

This has gone too far!

lundiel
lundiel
Oct 17, 2019 7:04 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

My poor dog doesn’t have a love life, I had her neutered, God forgive me..

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 17, 2019 7:14 PM
Reply to  lundiel

”Dog forgive me”, surely?

(Sorry. Couldn’t resist).

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 17, 2019 7:18 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Chuckle, naaah ROFL thinking about it – Ye-Ye-yeah-yap-raps:- when we all know full well, how dogs just love to get stuck in, then get stuck & hang around like they ‘own that space’ and finally, to top of it off, start scrapping with the next in line 😉 & howoooooool in/online, “Damn, that bitch just bit me”, (in dog tongue .. . ) naturally 🙂 Pure DOG-matic possession & crowd control, without a thought for the consequences. The anti-social dogs of war never change and I used to blame the bitch’s fidelity, purely because, it makes for great conversation & scandals down the pub: ahem, that’s why I don’t go to the pub any more 🙂 that and the no smoking guns & health & public safety PC thingy … personal computers, lol. Damn it, people lost their sense of humour, too … 🙂 nice one, Gwyn 😉 What is… Read more »

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 18, 2019 11:52 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

— the above discourse has been brought to you by a deep-state automatic text-generation algorithm.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 18, 2019 12:43 PM
Reply to  milosevic

Hmmm, interesting comment that, which prompts cause to consider if one should think of inverting the reality when a Slob can’t respond to a single response or question from me, usually: even the simplest of questions, eh? Like, How’s Reinetorheit ? I thought that might prompt you 🙂 FYI, the booms from NATZO rolling bombing barrages, I referred to yesterday, are non-existent today, here within the border zone to Turkey: so, I have considerably more time for you, today: not sure where you live, how old you are and why (for a remarkably intelligent guy), you don’t have the balls to use your real name in grand ‘Psyop’ scheme of things: because frankly, I have never really had too much cause to turn my attention in your direction & expend some energy, simply because I often agree with things or see something in what you say, of interest >>> mind… Read more »

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 18, 2019 1:01 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

— yah, you don’t sound like a spook, AT ALL.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 18, 2019 2:38 PM
Reply to  milosevic

Is more sarcasm really your best shot, you wee armchair warrior & critic/sceptic, call yourself what you want. Let’s raise the bar, please. Yer’ surely not a boy or student, but presently, we here @OffG know bugger all about YOU, other than your sarcasm. So, we have resolved the question of humour. Milo-Bot cannot yet compute humour. What about anyone of the other questions, take yer’ pick, one by one, or 2 x 3, come on Milo. push the boat out and paddle some … You started this 🙂 I know how to spook people, of course, in so many different ways that most cannot imagine, after grandfather’s training: which he took extra special time for, coz’ my mum died young and it was a long painful drawn out cancerous affair, which I nursed (as eldest son, in my dad’s absence on business). G/father was a big help and never… Read more »

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 18, 2019 8:49 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

having worked with CIA Agents in the 90’s

do tell.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 19, 2019 8:29 AM
Reply to  milosevic

Had you exerted due diligence, you would know by now that I have been telling, periodically: quite often, here in these columns, that OffG now legally own & control, independent of WordPress in many ways: most importantly, recently on new independent servers that can now feasibly legally bear witness as a collective, without internal tampering: but I feel no compulsion to chat further with you on these somewhat complex technical & legal matters, & how “The History of the National Security State” functions, (also inside WordPress), until I feel that YOU have told me something, anything genuine about yourself. I mean this most respectfully and seriously, I have no wish to waste time spooking you in any way, (unless you continue to provoke me without good reason, because that would make me immediately more suspicious of you and your motives, ‘Mensch’, if you don’t understand a comment of mine just… Read more »

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 19, 2019 11:05 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

I fail to understand this strategy of disinfo spooks openly announcing themselves as such, but I suppose it must be part of some cunning plan on the part of the CIA, or some similar agency.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 19, 2019 1:42 PM
Reply to  milosevic

Milosevic. The moderation team @OffG know full well that I troll for NoBody ! having checked (profiled) everyone of them out, first, a long time ago, from their outset, before joining OffG. Even, I waited & remained distant at first, because one of their original partners was controlled opposition, within OffG founders. I told OffG mods. almost from the ‘getgo’, that I was investigating Censorship above all & testing WordPress, too.
I don’t fire blanks and occasionally take direct action and am capable of provoking all kinds of things that you “fail to understand”, yet.

Consider yourself challenged.

NAME ONE PIECE OF DISINFORMATION, from ME ! SPIT IT OUT !

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 20, 2019 2:49 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

— veiled threats and allusions to “profiling” anonymous site administrators. once again, not at all spooky.

maybe you should check with your handlers, to make sure this is all in the script.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 21, 2019 7:21 AM
Reply to  milosevic

I repeat:

“NAME ONE PIECE OF DISINFORMATION, from ME ! SPIT IT OUT !”

Age, Location, Experience ! ?

Veiled = Concealed Milosevic
Real = Tim Jenkins

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 18, 2019 12:57 PM
Reply to  milosevic

What no dig ?
I noticed much sarcasm from you over time & again today 🙂 but, of course that is the lowest form of wit so, I’ll add one question … if I may?

7) Do you actually have a sense of humour, sometimes … ?

🙂 this ‘bot’ is learning to laugh at all and sundry ‘ridiculousness’, presently 🙂

mark
mark
Oct 17, 2019 7:57 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Yes, it all revolves around lamp posts and chip shop door ways.

mark
mark
Oct 17, 2019 10:08 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Yes, it all revolves around lamp posts and chip shop doorways. Very tawdry.

Robert Anglin
Robert Anglin
Oct 17, 2019 3:47 PM

I think you can add Disqus to the list.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 17, 2019 4:40 PM
Reply to  Robert Anglin

Please take a look at my comment that will pop up as soon as my ISP allows it to go through.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 18, 2019 2:00 AM
Reply to  nottheonly1

“Please take a look at my comment that will pop up as soon as my ISP allows it to go through.”

Or you refresh the page.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 18, 2019 1:11 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

I take screen recordings about my bandwidth changing while visiting different sites. My bandwidth slows when I visit ‘OffGuardian’, ‘Consortium News’, or any other truthful web site. It does not fail with meaningless, or propaganda sites.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 18, 2019 8:41 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

How do you measure your bandwidth?

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 18, 2019 9:00 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

How do you know the problem is not with the network connection of the website in question, rather than your own? That would be the simplest explanation. This website has recently stated that it is under repeated DDOS attack, which would account for your observations.

mark
mark
Oct 17, 2019 4:45 PM
Reply to  Robert Anglin

Owned by the usual suspects.
Try Brave Browser, Yandex, Duckduckgo.

lundiel
lundiel
Oct 17, 2019 7:05 PM
Reply to  mark

🦆duckgo is Google.

lundiel
lundiel
Oct 17, 2019 7:09 PM
Reply to  lundiel

I don’t even recommend For, it’s very important to the intelligence agencies.

lundiel
lundiel
Oct 17, 2019 7:23 PM
Reply to  lundiel

“Tor’

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 18, 2019 8:37 AM
Reply to  mark

How do you like Brave, mark? I’ve been thinking about switching to them.

mark
mark
Oct 18, 2019 10:44 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

I had some problems downloading it but it’s probably ok now.
They undertake not to track you or sell your information.

mark
mark
Oct 18, 2019 10:45 PM
Reply to  mark

Switch at 21 Century Wire and it donates some digital currency to the site.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 17, 2019 3:06 PM

Prominent politicians stateside have been rather slow to properly recognise Silicone Valley’s attempts to neuter the net, and have yet to do anything serious about it. That is, other than invite tech execs to appear before Congress only to essentially perjure themselves in having the audacity to claim, on the record, that their outfits are free of bias and do not seek to skew public perception.

Actually, these days it’s just as often the politicians grilling the tech-execs and encouraging them to ‘counteract Russian disinformation’ — in other words, to impose censorship. We, the little people, don’t have a friend anywhere, either in the government or in the private sector.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Oct 17, 2019 12:58 PM

‘Mr Dorsey, there are three men out here who want to talk to you’
‘Who are they Jason?’
‘They said they were from the government’
‘Oh _ _ _ _ _ better show them in then’
(Door opening and closing).
‘What can I do for you gentleman?’
‘No, Mr Dorsey. It’s what you MUST do for us’
‘Oh!’

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

(Gov. slides short-list of commands across desk)
“Do the math: 101 , have a nice day now.”
“But wait, is there a deadline?”
“That depends on how you want to headline, tomorrow … ”
“Headline?”
“Dead or Alive . . .” 😉

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 17, 2019 12:40 PM

Private mass manipulation industry moving from South California (Hollywood) to North California (Palo Alto etc) under Virginia ( Langley / Washington) Deep State “guidance”.

crank
crank
Oct 17, 2019 12:39 PM

All very familiar and well written, although there are some assumptions in this argument that are falling apart for me at the moment: If the internet is a ‘global commons’, and it most certainly is Is it? Has it ever been ? The megaservers are all owned by private interests. The billions of dollars of cables under the sea weren’t a collective inheritance bestowed upon mankind; they were engineered and laid and are rented out for profit. There are some very small cliques of people who excercise huge influence over the inner workings of the internet- people that most of us have never even heard of. https://fossbytes.com/internet-managed-by-14-security-keyholder/ Consider this: a historical network of independent media activists who linked up genuinely adversarial campaigns of civil disobedience with a radical grassroots news service. ‘Indymedia’ had their servers stolen and shut down by the state back in 2005. That is fourteen years ago… Read more »

BigB
BigB
Oct 17, 2019 9:04 PM
Reply to  crank

I don’t even disagree with your general comment (see above): but then I followed your first link …to the Guardian! As I read the article – by linking through your link to the original story (by James Ball) – this name association formed in my mind: (Julian Assange) (Edward Snowden) Allen Rusbridger David Leigh James Ball Bruce Schneier Glenn Greenwald (all mentioned – except Leigh – who I added) Who is the next name on the list? I came up with Pierre Omidyar. Anyway: my observation is that the Guardian are a fine lot to write about keys. Given Leigh ‘inadvertently’ published the Wikileaks bit-torrent key in his book. And the lengths of disinformation that they have perpetrated to obfuscate who really controls the Internet. The seven keys are safe and there is no way the NSA and CIA ‘alphabet soup’ can get in? They set the whole thing up.… Read more »

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 18, 2019 3:55 AM
Reply to  BigB

“Forgive me if I retain a massive dose of healthy scepticism about the Guardian’s limited hangout ” The Guardian was hanging out nothing except James Ball’s vanity. The keys concerned exist principally to maintain the integrity of the ‘Domain Name System’ (DNS). There is no connection between the technical operation of the Internet and the DNS except that the latter is the “telephone book” (so to speak) that links domain names, e.g. “off-guardian.org”, with the ‘Internet Protocol’ (IP) numbers that the actual computers and other devices comprising the Internet use to find each other as/when requested. The entire process is publicly documented in excruciating detail in a carefully-indexed collection of online specifications. The ICANN mentioned in the Fossbytes article is also responsible for the overall allocation of the necessarily unique IP numbers between the various interests, such as your home/work network and/or computer/phone/alarm/whatever, requiring one or more of them, on… Read more »

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 18, 2019 9:05 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

what’s the difference between “no-read” and “write-only” media?

and why would either of them be of the slightest use to anybody?

in what sense would that be a “record” if it can’t ever be retrieved?

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 19, 2019 2:09 AM
Reply to  milosevic

“what’s the difference between “no-read” and “write-only” media?”

You must be a no-USENET new boy with no sense of humour. And possibly an American with no sense of irony. Right?

milosevic
milosevic
Oct 19, 2019 5:44 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

wrong on both counts. and you still didn’t answer the question.

if your jokes don’t make any sense, people are unlikely to realize that’s how they were intended.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 19, 2019 10:45 PM
Reply to  milosevic

“wrong on both counts. and you still didn’t answer the question.”

It did answered. I advanced two speculations, you refuted both of them, and therein lies it answer.

“if your jokes don’t make any sense, people are unlikely to realize that’s how they were intended.”

That could explain why I’m often the only one who seems to be laughing at them. I always laugh at my own jokes, sometimes other people do too. Good clue! Thanks.

crank
crank
Oct 18, 2019 9:29 AM
Reply to  BigB

BigB

Forgive me if I retain a massive dose of healthy scepticism about the Guardian’s limited hangout

Forgiven.
I merely posted that to illustrate my argument that ‘the internet is not a commons’ – and I think your deeper analysis furthers that point.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 19, 2019 2:03 AM
Reply to  crank

There are some very small cliques of people who excercise huge influence over the inner workings of the internet- people that most of us have never even heard of.
https://fossbytes.com/internet-managed-by-14-security-keyholder/

Are you paid to spread bullshit by innuendo or do you do it pro bono?

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Oct 19, 2019 3:42 AM
Reply to  crank

“‘The internet is not a commons’” The Internet is not a commons primarily because we have supported governments and Internet-exploiting businesses that have a vested interest in the enclosure of all and any commons and, secondarily, because its operation requires the purchase of large amounts of privately owned commodities such as electronic communications channels, electronic equipment, commercially-generated electricity and so on. Like the On-Guardian and its Style Book, you show all the signs of not knowing the difference between the Internet and its underlying internet technology, which in itself vitiates most of what you know about it and, thus, most of what you have to say about it. The underlying internet technology that comprises the totality of the technology of the Internet is one of the most extraordinary examples of human-invented intellectual commons ever created and is totally free for only the effort of implementing it, a course of action… Read more »

different frank
different frank
Oct 17, 2019 12:14 PM

I recommend “The Age of Surveillance Capitalism” By Shoshana Zuboff

crank
crank
Oct 17, 2019 1:15 PM

I recommend ‘Surveillance Valley’ by Yasha Levine.

different frank
different frank
Oct 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Reply to  crank

Will check it out.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Oct 17, 2019 2:34 PM
Reply to  crank

I recommend never getting addicted to damned ‘social media’ in the first place. I have nothing to do with them; feel not the slightest lack; like a very large number of other humans, probably still a majority. Life continues.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 17, 2019 4:37 PM

It might not be that easy. Addiction starts at an early age now. The youngest are exposed to asocial networking extensively – largely due to the fact that it serves their parents as a welcome substitute for a baby sitter. It starts there. Have you ever known folks who started to smoke cigarettes at ten years of age? When did they stop smoking?