Kit Knightly
Apparently the United States killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi yesterday. US Special Forces allegedly killed the ISIS leader during a raid on a stronghold in Idlib.
As far as we know, this man was already dead. Maybe twice. He reportedly faked his death once as well.
The debate about whether or not Baghdadi was killed by US Special Forces, killed himself with a suicide vest, is still alive or died years ago has raged all day.
Trump says he died like a coward. The Russians maintain they have no data suggesting any attack was carried out at all. But that is far from conclusive.
From a domestic point of view, the purpose of the attack is fairly obvious: Donald Trump has an election coming up, and potential Presidents like nothing more than being seen to be tough. That means taking out some “bad guys”.
Of course, none of that matters.
It doesn’t matter what happened, it doesn’t matter why it happened and it doesn’t matter whether who it (allegedly) happened to was real, or alive…or otherwise.
Because, as always, the problem is not the specifics. It’s the principle and the precedent.
Let’s just assume that – for the first time in its entire existence – the Pentagon is telling the exact truth about both its actions, and the motives for those actions.
Well, then this is still unacceptable.
The United States is publicly claiming the right to carry out military strikes on foreign soil for the purpose of conducting extra-judicial executions.
This is completely illegal.
Syria is a sovereign state. Whatever the motivation for the alleged raid, carrying it out without the cooperation or permission of the legitimate government of Syria was illegal.
al-Baghdadi was (is?) not a US citizen, or an enemy combatant, and has never been convicted of any crime, in any court, by anyone. Whether or not he is alive…he as a right to be alive under the UN Charter of Human Rights.
And we’re all forgetting that.
Just a few weeks ago Trump announced the US was “pulling out” of Syria. Well, we now know what we suspected at the time, that the announcement is meaningless. This “raid” is their way of saying “just kidding!”
ISIS will still be used as they have always been used: as an excuse for the United States to occupy, attack, destabilise and control the Middle East.
Lost in this hubbub about ISIS, and Hollywood theatricals about daring night-raids on enemy compounds, the United States marched soldiers into North-Eastern Syria to “protect” oil fields.
At the end of the day THAT is really what this was about. Not hurting ISIS, or fighting terrorism, or even making Donald look cool to Rust Belt patriots…it was about an Empire acting as they would, and us letting them. It was about narrative control
Don’t forget the famous quote from Karl Rove:
We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
When we argue about the specifics we let those in power control the conversation.
The US broke international law, and claim it as an achievement. They ignore borders and treaties and conventions on a whim, and we are so used to it we’re debating their motives and their effectiveness.
They proclaim loudly that they’re above the law. And, in letting them set that conversation, we agree with them. Even in our outrage.
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Those who commit war crimes and crimes against humanity should be held legally accountable.
And Bin Laden died (killed ) and was buried at sea.
Have any Muslim people ever done that?
The main thing is that a dog – we have no name- let’s call him Prince chased the guy down a tunnel with no exit.
Trump now joins Killary in the Pantheon of rightousness.
We saw – we came – we killed someone.
Trump’s blooding is complete.
One for the kid’s photo album.
What a load of phooey.
Barack Trump has just killed Usama al-Baghdadi.
Terrorism is in retreat.
Yea, America!
Something Big Has Happened!
I just can’t believe this totally mind-numbing BS from the el Presidente of the US of A. Where the heck do the Americans get these people from? The embarrassing idiocy of Trump speaks volumes about the intellect of the American people. We have a CIA dumbshit stooge for a PM Downunder. However, Trump surpasses this f-wit.
I’m surprised they didn’t find his passport in the rubble. Every other dead terrorist has ….
I must say I was intrigued by the news that a DNA test was done immediately on the spot. Such progress! I had no idea.
Apparently the US military has a new whizz-bang DNA tester that you can hold out in the open just outside a helicopter hovering over the rubble under which the remains of al Baghdadi and his sons lie in pieces and the tester can do the analysis in a split-second and tell you straight away which DNA fragments analysed belong to Baghdadi and which to his sons. You don’t even have to be trained to be able to interpret the results because the software inside the tester does that all for you!
ROFLMHO
Touche!
yeah, its a nice gadget can be purchased on waamazon.com for $29.95.. with free delivery..
So where did they get the reference DNA from?
Was it when they recruited him?
From his undies. The original plan was he would be run down by a bus. Bus was late. Again.
It’s true: it’s an exercise in narrative control.
I’m puzzled by the wreckage. I don’t see any flooring materials, no doors or windows, no furniture, no pipes or cables.
This little snippet of truth has been unearthed this weekend via Sputnik:
…”Steele was invited onto the World Service’s Weekend programme to discuss the elimination of Daesh leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi – but partway through, he made a startling intervention, noting he’d attended the briefing given to the Foundation by the OPCW whistleblower, one of the inspectors sent to Douma in April 2018 “to check into the allegations by the rebels that Syrian aeroplanes had dropped two canisters of chlorine gas, killing up to 43 people”, who “claims he was in charge of picking up the samples in the affected areas, and in neutral areas, to check whether there were chlorine derivatives there”.
Amazingly, host Paul Henley didn’t change the subject or terminate the conversation, instead asking Steele for more information.
“[The investigator] found there was no difference. So it rather suggested there was no chemical gas attack, because in the buildings where the people allegedly died there was no extra chlorinated organic chemicals than in the normal streets elsewhere. And I put this to the OPCW for comment, and they haven’t yet replied. But it rather suggests a lot of this was propaganda,” Steele said.
“Propaganda led by?” Henley probed.
“By the rebel side to try and bring in American planes, which did happen. American, British and French planes bombed Damascus a few days after these reports. This is the second whistleblower to come forward. A few months ago there was a leaked report by the person who looked into the ballistics, as to whether these cylinders had been dropped by planes, looking at the damage of the building and the damage on the side of the cylinders. And he concluded the higher probability was these cylinders were placed on the ground, rather than from planes,” Steele explained.” End Quote
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172wyjcsxxfg3w
Jonathan Steele 11 mins into the stream.
I think this mr. Paul Henley has just been told to join the dole queue
This guy has died nearly as many times as those dastardly Russians blew up the “last” hospital in Aleppo over the course of a few weeks,not so long ago
This is obviously like The Beano comic (which for those unfamiliar was a mass selling children’s comic in the UK from the 1930s till the 1990s).
How people believe this total bullshit is unbelievable. But the sad thing is that they do…
Sadly, I work with (so called) teachers who believe this tosh. Brainwashing propaganda is an extremely powerful tool in the hands of the unscrupulous sociopaths.
You will always learn more out of school than in it
When you only go by the “officially reported narrative” (and that includes “official” statements by Trump) you might be left with certain “facts” but not the truth. Remember: any legitimate war strategy is never revealed to the public at large, right? As far as your Russian sources of info, there are deep state players remaining in EVERY country, putting out their counter-narratives, which sites like Off-Guardian are eagerly promoting.
Here’s another scenario: Trump needed to nail down al-Baghdadi’s location. He knew withdrawing troops from Syria would spark uproar and ISIS might get bold. Deep state ties with Syria and ISIS are now cut, so someone had to get word to al-Baghdadi in person. Trump manages to get a cease-fire, opening up possibility for contact. Suddenly, Pelosi and Schiff (both in w/deep state and ClA) suddenly go to region (“Jordan”). Significant timing? And al-Baghdadi’s location was discovered while they were there. Coincidence? Those fools made it easy to locate him…
https://twitter.com/40_head/status/1188754960130854914
Bagdaddy was just a couple of miles from the Turkish border in an area Erdogan controls. He obviously knew where he was and sold him out to Washington in return for Turkey taking over the border area. This provides Trump with an excuse to get out. He can declare victory and leave. Syria regains control of eastern Syria. Everybody wins – except Kosherstan.
Yes, that was also the basic sum-up from the Duran guys today. And it makes sense. But the trip to Jordan happening just at this moment for “security” reasons raises a red flag. No one seems to have touched that one…
It is crucially important for you and others to remember: ‘Bagdaddy’ is a figure-head phantom creation of the Neo-cons and their acolytes. ‘He’ is not and never has been a real person, merely a creation of the MIC and their media tribunes. Consequently, ‘he’ can be the quintessential boogey-man, whenever required.
Sort of like Freddy Kruger or Michael Moore.
or Jihadi John or Bill Hicks.
(read: Alex Jones) 🙂
The worst thing is that nobody can say that this artificial media world of Hollywood, (today), did not warn us, after ‘Network’ & Peter Finch admitted much, but not all, publicly.
‘And the beat goes on’ until, the corporate fascist censored media is regulated,
permanently, in Law & with algorithms that exist already & WE paid for. Start profiling from the top down, not the bottom up >>> you know it makes sense, logically 🙂
Yeah many of us here believe so called conspiracies but the bill hicks regenerating into Alex Jones is clearly bunkum
What off-G have said is not the “Russian narrative” at all
I have Syrian neighbors (Cambridge trained neurosurgeons) one who has lost an eye when ISIS bombed their house with all of their family members in it. They told us, they came with guns and broke open the front door and start shooting. Imagine this happening in the UK or US or the EU. Well where was the UN when this was happening and the Charter for Human Rights? Why aren’t Dick Cheney, Bush, Karl Rove et al been indicted for genocide?
It might have escaped you that – only people with brown skins or ‘darker complexions’ – can be held culpable for international illegality, natural resource theft, human rights violations, or crimes-against-humanity.
International thieves, warmongers and plunderers from the fairer-hued communities are above any UN, ICC, ICJ courts, etc. Royals and various oligarchs do not achieve their respective positions by being ‘nice’ people.
There is one exception though, if you fcuk with the banking, oil/gas fraternity, as Adolph did, and Vlad and Xin Ping are doing, then it doesn’t matter who you are … the boogey-man is coming to get you.
I have to say, what with today’s “visual guide to the raid…” that they seem to be jumping the shark, somewhat…it’s very like the Bin Laden “raid”.
I wonder how long the guys who were on the “raid” have got before their helicopter goes down somewhere hard to get to and they all die a fiery death…
and haven’t they killed him a few times already..
According to some longtime sources he’s a Mossad asset called Simon Eliot..He’s the guy behind and to John McCain’s right in that old photo..the slim brooding one..he let himself go a bit…
This is the sixth time Bagdaddy has been “killed.”
Why waste a perfectly good corpse just because it keeps on walking and talking?
I wouldn’t believe the helicopter guys going down unless it was purely by accident. They target those skeptical of their stories as much as they target those who aren’t. I believe there’s very, very few people they have to kill to silence. They simply control both sides of the story and everyone collaborates either willingly or not so willingly. Collaboration is the name of the game.
You might have the Kennedy brothers, Gaddaffi, Saddam Hussein and a countless number of other dearly departeds disagree with any sugar-coating hypothesis over ‘disappearances. The bastards at the top have no morals, scruples nor compunction. They are psychopathically ruthless. If and when any human has reached the stage that ‘they’ are capable of murdering presidents, or downing passenger filled commercial aircraft … to wage war through deceit – in the interests of an ‘agenda’ … they have lost any modicum of humanity. Just take a take a moment to look around – it is frightening …
You misunderstand me, hotrod31. No sugar-coating. Those you mention are a different kettle of fish. The power elite like to intimidate us by telling us they kill people when they don’t, even if they actually do kill a lot of people for real.
They made out they killed Danny Jowenko in a suspicious car accident on his way home from church. As if. A&E for 9/11 Truth are a government-sponsored organisation who most generously push out lots of excellent information about the demolitions of the buildings while aligning themselves with the fake “loved ones” such as Bob McIlvaine in order to perpetuate the key lie of 9/11: 3,000 people died and 6,000 were injured. Why would they kill Danny when they’re pushing out the truth themselves? When he was shown the collapse of WTC-7 on Dutch TV, of course, he was already familiar with it. As if a controlled demolition expert wouldn’t have known about it beforehand.
They had no reason to kill the people in the helicopter – as if these people wouldn’t know and be silent about it. For goodness’ sake. The world is full of willing collaborators – just doin’ their job doncha know. It’s just intimidation to make us feel they’re all powerful and will kill whenever they feel like it – which isn’t to say that isn’t true to a very large degree but they still push it further with fakery cos they always love to dupe us and feed us all sorts of distracting nonsense. Always.
Petra, it needs to be pointed out that one should never stand between the oligarchs and the money-trough … the sanctity and preciousness of human life becomes meaningless. Go figure …
Power corrupts, total power corrupts … totally.
To grasp even a smidge of this epithet, take a minute to focus on even the lowly (arse-wipe) backbench polly and how most experience behavioural transmogrification once they’ve attained even a mere sniff of authority (even if originating only from the putrifying entrails of their own self-importance) Well, imagine how intoxicating the heady mixture becomes near the perceived apex of the power index.
One might well get to feel that they are virtually invincible and untouchable to boot. Just saying …
Sanctity of life is never my argument, hotrod31 – it’s always about FOOLING us and playing to our tendencies to believe. I ask you what is your reason to believe anything at all that they tell us? Anything at all. I only believe according to the evidence – or I certainly try to. Who told us about this helicopter load of people killed and what’s the evidence?
In Apartheid era South Africa, I knew of many, too many, ‘disappearances’ and disgustingly sick and heinous crimes committed by the legal authorities and sanctioned by the government of the day.
The saddest and most disturbing part at the time was – the psychopathic tendencies of some of the Anglo-Afrikaaners were deceptively manipulated and used to full effect by the corrupt Corporate titans and the ubiquitous ‘Shadow Government.’ They created proverbial monsters out of essentially decent people, as is done in [too] many Western ‘security ‘ organisations.
I have no doubt about what you say in this instance, hotrod. That people were killed and tortured in horrible ways as you say in South Africa and in many other places over millennia I have no doubt about … but just to be wary as they will always exploit our knowledge of what really happens to fake stuff too.
Thanks for your compliment below.
Just to be more explicit – they tell us that they killed OBL and none of us believe that, OK? Then they throw in the killing of the helicopter people because we will have a tendency to believe that. But both stories are false. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that they would kill people within their military because they might know the “oh so big secret” that they didn’t kill OBL. Big deal. Do you think soldiers don’t know loads of other secrets that don’t get published in the media? They don’t kill people every time they know a secret. Thousands of people know from the inside that 9/11 was a staged event – they’re not being killed off because they’re collaborators and stay mum, and, of course, the fact that it was completely staged (there is no evidence of dead or injured even if some people might have been killed or injured) means it’s not the terrible secret that most truthers think it is.
And just to add again. It reminds me of the alleged shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald. They made out to the disbelievers that he needed killing because of his momentous confession, “I’m just a patsy”. Of course, if LHO had been a genuine patsy he wouldn’t have said that at that time, that’s ludicrous. He was the designated patsy and he recited his scripted line. We’re supposed to believe that Jack Ruby killed him because he might spill the beans? LHO was an agent doing his job and they sheepdipped him as they do for their other agents. We know he wasn’t killed because no still from the “live” video of him being shot matches the photo so the shooting was obviously staged. Of course, they could have ultimately really killed him anyway and you’re welcome to believe that if you choose.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/lho-shot-tvphoto-comparison.html
People simply don’t recognise the sophistication of the power elite’s MO although it’s not actually all that sophisticated when you comprehend it, it makes perfect sense. What needs to be understood is that they propagandise equally to the believers and the disbelievers. Equally. They’ve got us skeptics covered too and that really needs to be understood.
And just to add yet again. I met someone whose father was at the scene of the 2002 Bali bombing. He was not a collaborator but he could tell that people were not killed and injured as reported. Do you think he went to the media and said, “Hey, that bombing was a bombing in an evacuated area and death and injury were staged?” Do you seriously think he would do that?
I mean, I write to the SMH telling them their stories are fake. What difference does it make? Zero.
I still like your pieces for “Occums Razor’ though …
Never ever underestimate the power of the individual …
Have a great day. Do take care.
At the shooting from the building in Los Vegas two years ago.. not one person the the ground was killed.. they laid down and waited from the crowd to be pushed back.. then hellocopeters picked them up and transported them to the release spot..
Yep … Las Vegas, San Bernardino, Orlando, Times Square, Parkland, El Paso, Brussels, Manchester, Westminster, London Bridge, Bali, Charlie Hebdo, Champs Elysees, Berlin truck, Nice truck, Stockholm truck, Barcelona van rampage, Sri Lanka, Bourke St, Flinders St and so very, very many others – all staged.
Someone just suggested the possibility to me that the Tampa ‘refugee children overboard’ affair in August and the sinking of the refugee boat SIEV-X on 18 October that occurred before the November 2001 Australian elections were staged too. Well, of course, that weasel Howard. He staged Bali too and, no doubt, the Port Arthur shootings although I haven’t studied that one.
The US is a rogue state and has been one for many decades.
The U.S. REGIME broke/breaks international ‘law’ and claim it as an achievement.
Ignoring borders and treaties and conventions on a whim – that sounds very familiar. It all sounds very familiar and I can’t quite remember, but there is a word for that. Yes, it’s called FASCISM.
FASCISM gives an outer space flying 🐛 (B=F, G=CK) about any laws, regulations, rules, codes, tact, courtesy, consideration, benevolence, justice, corruption, lies, deception, treason, theft, rape, violence, slavery and racism. It promotes the worst of the worst human condition – Psychopathy.
Don’t let anybody fool you. Fascism is multi-partisan. It has nothing to do with ‘left’/’right’. Fascism is an ideology that has not only survived WWII and the ‘cold’ war, it was nourished by each U.S. regime in question. The U.S. regime is the mother of all fascist dictatorships. Dressed in (virtual)entertainment, (for-profit)sports, (for-profit and power)religion, (stool pigeon)celebrities, (cyber-)sex and (opioids)drugs and (subliminal frequencies)rock’n roll. Now available on the internet of nightmares. Nightmares and Horrors in 5G.
The most important part in defeating Fascism is to defeat it in oneself. It lives where there are spots in which the otherwise rational mind finds reason to award blame onto others. Not only for everything, but most notably for everything oneself is guilty of. The keys on my keyboard that spell ‘Psychological Projection’ are blank. The white paint is gone.
Fascism could very well be Psychological Projection times Psychopathy by any other name. It needs to be emphasized, that it only works in divided societies. Fascism never has a chance against a united population that looks through the deceit called fascism. Hence the distraction from the hyper fleecing of tax payer money upwards into the club that neither the working, nor the middle class will ever be a member of.
The present behavior are the final stages of a terminal disease. One might argue about the diseases, emphasis is given to ‘terminal’. The masses are advised to take things into their own hands. With due diligence first achieve food security. Each human being’s priority has to be to grow sufficient amounts of organic food to survive. The revolution does not live off talk alone. Even though it might be helpful in starting the revolution before the stomachs go empty, empty stomachs are a strong unifying force. But a stomach can only be empty for so long. Ask the Yemenis, for example.
It’s the first responsiblity of any human being for it to be self-sufficient. It is their society that helps where self-sufficiency of the individual cannot be achieved due to any handicap.
Shift all attention and resources into growing organic food. Starve fascist corporations instead of Yemenis to death.
Wash Rinse Repeat!
And just like that, el-BigDaddy is wiped off the face of the MSM for the ….5th time?
Photo brought to you by Rita & Friends over at SITE…. Good job lads! Chubby pale hands, no tan, looks like he has been hiding in Tel-Aviv for quite some time!
Just like Mr.Obama – soon after taking office he announced the elimination of another – now you see me and now you don’t character.
Comic books for the masses.
if this operation really happened the special ops boyos should watch their backs.look what supposedly happened the to the special forces ops who killed osama bin laden.
**Newsflash: according to Sputnik News, Netanyahu has just accused Iran of developing cruise missiles capable of hitting any target in the Middle East, and of planning to deploy them in countries like Yemen, etc etc etc. Yawn.
It was almost predictable this war criminal would start jumping up and down about Iran. What a coincidence!
Nuttyyahoo doesn’t have to bother developing cruise missiles himself.
He gets them for free from all the stooge goy whores in Congress at the expense of the goy taxpayer.
Like all the F16s, Arrow missiles, Iron Domes, Apache helicopters, Merkava tanks, nuclear warheads and Dolphin submarines.
All completely buckshee.
Joe Shlomo in Tel Aviv doesn’t have to put his hand in his pocket for a single shekel.
Just as Israel are effectively a member of the EU, receiving millions of Euros to develop military products but paying nothing into the EU.
Does this mean that Israel is really, really smart, or that the Goys are really, really dopey?
It means that the goy leaders are really, really greedy and really, really obsequious grovelling whores.
And the goys are really, really dopey for not stringing them up from the nearest lamp post.
How the Dickens did we allow ourselves to get to this point? I often ask myself … how I allowed my naive ‘informers’ to brainwash me into believing the 6M BS fairytale and the Adolf was all bad, nonsense. What a gullible mug I’ve been. Nowadays I am more able to actually visualize the horns on the heads of the beasts, Cheney, Netanyahu, Lucky Larry, Rupert, etc. etc.
Can’t wait for you to find out the truth about Stalin! If you think Hitler was lied about (he was and has been) then wait until you hear te mental shit said about Stalin who is clearly the most lied about man in history
Next week Donald Trump is going to off Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, and the genie from Alladin’s lamp.
Good point, Kit.
“… the United States marched soldiers into North-Eastern Syria to “protect” oil fields.” Here is a quote from a reader comment in The Duran : Meanwhile, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Saturday the United States was indulging in smuggling Syrian oil to other countries. He said the convoys were guarded by US private military companies and special operations forces and oil extraction equipment had been supplied to the site by leading Western corporations in bypassing of all US sanctions. According to Konashenkov, the contract for transporting oil was executed by the US-controlled company Sadcub set up under the so-called autonomous administration of eastern Syria. Under the ministry’s estimates, the cost of one barrel of oil smuggled from Syria is $38, so monthly revenues of such “private business” exceeds $30 mln.
Add in the revenue from the opium trade out of Afghanistan. Secured those poppy fields for Freedom and Democracy.
I managed to stomach (just) some of the coverage of Al Bagdadi’s death on both SBS and ABC here in Vassal State #2. Also known as Australia. Of course, not one word about the World’s largest terrorist state breaking international law, or being in Syria illegally. Nothing.
And of course, not a peep about who is currently stealing and smuggling oil in North Eastern Syria; that apparently Russia has satellite images of – proof of what is taking place.
Destroy a country, support and arm jihadist terrorists, cause massive amounts of death and destruction. Then steal that country’s oil. How low can you get? The only word I can use is debauched.
And as is always the case, the presstitutes are deaf, dumb, and blind. See nothing. Hear nothing. Know nothing. These creatures know damn well what is going on, Or at the very least, they have a pretty good idea. They have not one iota of integrity or morals. None.
Remember that when ISIS was stealing Iraqi oil, the oil ended up trans-shipped through Turkey to Haifa.
True Igor…. So much going on, that slipped my mind. So much evil….
If you havn’t heard, Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone was arrested on Oct 25th in a Swat type raid on his home, held in jail for 2 days, denied access to a phone, denied access to his Attorney on a bullshit charge of assaulting a Venezuelan opposition figure.
RT and The Grayzone and a couple of blog sites are covering it.
That news broke a short while ago.
They want our voices squashed. Bastards.
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/28/grayzone-editor-max-blumenthal-arrested-months-after-reporting-on-venezuelan-opposition-violence/
RT, The Grayzone & Consortium News. The rest are busy still, discussing lemon Kurdish custard tarts and anything except >>> “The History of the National Security State” full of paedophiles & corruption @home & exporting their illicit practices …
Most people have neither shame, nor sense of guilt: therefore, it’s time for war, meaning: Civil War ! Our National Security State IS the enemy within, unquestionably!
Fascists Censoring Fact & disregarding Law, whenever ’tis convenient.
Just woke up, saw your reply, thanks Tim. Bastards, aye. As well as the cyber attacks, the smears, the suspension or deleting of Facebook and Twitter accounts, the now this arrest of Max Blumenthal.
I made a comment at Caitlin Johnstone that if anyone thinks we aren’t heading towards a Fascist dystopia, then think again. These creatures will do anything to silence dissenting voices – as we know from history. A long list of people silenced.
Scary and surreal times Tim. Like being in the Mad Hatters Tea Party. I was about to check who else was reporting Max Blumenthal’s arrest.
Quick update: Worldwide Socialist Website and Information Clearing House both reporting Max Blumenthal’s arrest, along with Consortium News and RT. None of the other main independent sites are – not a word. Why?? Rather perplexed as made a comment about MB’s arrest at Caitlin Johnstone last night, and not one person responded. It was like nothing was said.
Of the comment I made here last night, you’ve been the only person (to my knowledge) to mention MB’s arrest. Noted 30 indignant comments at Consortium News last time I looked.
Why is this story not plastered over most independent sites today??
That’s all, hope your day is good.
Thanx for the update: I figure that many alternative sites have their hands so full, at the mo. Chasing Karl Rove’s latest machinations, along with suffering cyberattacks from exactly Rove’s ‘kinda’ people, (on parallel platforms we paid for), who either censor or disable any criticism of fanatical corporate fascism, ongoing . . .
Regardless of Corporate Fascists, that censor:
have a good evening & remember, all we have to do,
is regulate them, with just cause.
Q: After all, who would want Murdoch dictating to the,
Science of Humanities ? !
A: Only Corrupted Academia & Legal Systems, cowering to the National Security State 😉
Best Wishes,
Tim
https://free-don.us/karl-rove-contempt/
I cannot begin to describe the ‘likes’ of Karl Rove & Co.
Suffice to say, the expression ‘Mad-Hatter’ came about,
from the employees in the hat factories, sniffing too much glue &
getting ‘high’s, literally !
😉
We’re things this nuts and bizarre and surreal and just so blatantly in your face evil 30 years ago?
And that so many are co-opted, complicit, or just couldn’t give a flying fudge cake. At all. Not a fecken jot.
But hey, let’s all go shopping and plan our next overseas holiday to Romania or Slovakia, and let’s go down to the trendy new Pub to drink boutique beers hand made by tattooed Hipsters while we discuss cisgender binary theories, and then have a meal of sustainable organic tofu with organic sea urchin…. AAAGGGHHH.
I’m sure it wasn’t like this 30 years ago. Western Society is stark raving bonkers.
Its 11.05 pm here. Time to zzzz zzzz zzz. Over and out..
“…the expression ‘Mad-Hatter’ came about,
from the employees in the hat factories, sniffing too much glue &
getting ‘high’s…”
You’ve been carousing with too many employers. Mercury, mainly in the form of mercuric nitrate, was found to increase the quality of felt so felt workers were told to use it, which they did. The neurological effects of mercury poisoning include excitability, tremors, hallucinations, etc…
Quick update the wsws website is Trotskyist nonsense. They didn’t support the opposition in Venezuela because Chavez and maduro once said nice things about Trotsky and they didn’t support the Bolivian opposition for similar reasons. But Hong Kong Libya Syria etc all got a pass from the Trotskyist arseholes
Hi John. Nice to hear from you. Not sure if you’re in United States or the UK?
Regards Louis Proyect, I try to ignore trolls like him, coz they’re NOT going to listen to what you say.
And you’re only giving them oxygen by replying. They’ll just keep coming back, sorta like a bad smell.
Now, your reply. I agree with at least 90% of what the WSWS says on their website. They get it right with most things in my opinion. I’ve been to a few rallies they’ve organised in defence of Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning.
Who else is doing this? Almost no one.
You may strongly disagree with their ‘trotskyism’, but at least they’re being proactive.
Also, the Bolivian opposition are a bunch of Christian Fascist Thugs who are going to murder and torture large numbers of indigenous people in Bolivia. Its already started. Did you not notice the Nazi salutes they were giving in those photos?
wonder what would happen if someone arrested the arrestors, held them in a place for 2 days, tortured them, denied them access to a phone, attorney, renditioned them to the moon for a life time visit with Chief Moon himself and said absolute nothing? . I’ll bet the MSM would not breath a word of it, unless they had that someone in custody.
aussie poodle payne was busy sucking up to her u$a mastahs by bashing EVIL yellow-peril china
me bullshit meter fractured itself
me puke bag burst . . . .
for example:
“Let me simply say this: the US has a record unmatched in modern times of leading an international system aimed at benefiting all people, not just its own.”
“At the same time, we are frank about our differences with China. We are an open democracy. China is a Communist Party state.
“We must respect each other’s sovereignty, but we will consistently continue to raise issues such as human rights, including with China,” Senator Payne said.
“We will do so not just because we believe individual rights should apply to all people, but because we believe nations that uphold such principles domestically are more likely to cooperate in ways that promote the common good globally.
“We must respect each other’s sovereignty, but we will consistently continue to raise issues such as human rights, including with China,” Senator Payne said.
“We will do so not just because we believe individual rights should apply to all people, but because we believe nations that uphold such principles domestically are more likely to cooperate in ways that promote the common good globally.
“Western liberal democracies cannot be silent or absent from this debate – we will be affected by the rapid pace of change whether we like it or not. And so we must continue to act in the interests of our public and the sovereignty of our nations.”
I think for me, the worst was when Turnbull and mass murderer Netanyahu held a joint press conference on his visit here…. And they were both dressed identical. Same ties, everything.
I honestly don’t know how Aussies can ignore the fact their country is a complete bootlicking colony of the United States. New Zealand isn’t much better, and yes, NZ is also a member of Five Eyes, but…. Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the level of grovelling here….!!! Sorry Boris, but it’s completely f****d. Seriously cringeworthy.
The absolute crud that comes out of Aussie politicians mouths. Its like being in an episode of Fawlty Towers with Basil sucking up to one of his posh guests…
Spot on Kit – whoops, just seen that Harry Stotle has beat me to it. Spot on though.
Russian MoD doubts Trump’s announcement of killing ISIS chief al-Baghdadi, rejects claims it assisted US forces in op
https://www.rt.com/russia/471984-trump-russia-baghdadi-killed-syria/
Spot on Kit.
Take home points;
There is no reliable MSM news source when it comes to reporting US wars of aggression.
The public love simple good vs bad narratives: taken as read that the US is ‘good’ despite a shocking record of mass murder against weaker states.
Commentators who doubt the official narrative will be denigrated in the ususal way (Russian bots, terrorist sympathisers, left wing tree-huggers, etc).
Subversion of reality enables western military forces to continue a campaign of human rights abuses while corporations and certain politicians get rich in the process.
As an aside US military personnel who are damaged physically or psychologically, and who experience an awakening can expect to be rejected by the very communities who are cheering on the lastest bit of manufactured intelligence propagnda
From 6:13
Harry – this talk by Vince Emanuele is very powerful, and so true. Hits the nail on the head big time. Thanks for this.
Cheers, Gezzah – for reasons we can only speculate about the MSM seem to have no interest in the voice of Vets who have come away from combat with radically different perspectives. Neither do they provide much of a platform to those on the receiving end of western ‘help’ unless of course those on ground support their own country being bombed into oblivion.
This is a standard tactic when reality does not match the stories they invent, especially perpetuation of the ‘good cop’ label applied to the derranged behaviour of the USA and vassal states like Britain who support them.
Take Julian Assange – not a single news outlet in the UK has expressed outrage at the fact the wests most important journalist is being tortured to death barely 10 miles from parliament.
With the notable exception of Chris Williamson MPs are also silent on the matter (not because their colleagues are linked to illegal wars of course)
Any reference to Assange is preceded by smears (such as JA being a Russian asset, or sex offender seeking to avoid justice) – they don’t say so in so many words but kind of imply he deserves the treatment he is receiving.
Marina Hyde at the Guardian produced some ‘hilarious’ articles that might have been written by Elliot Abrams, although even she has become rather quiet recently as the full extent of state brutality is made known.
If your bag is highly selective outrage, hypocritical sermonising and plain old fake news then tune into the MSM while they dish up a version of the truth that always seems to coincide with western military objectives.
Today we bask in reflected glory after our wonderful leaders have taken out Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi presumably because the purpose he 0nce served is no longer useful so its high time the next CIA asset made his or her way into the public consciousness?
Harry… I’m trying to take the advice of Philip Roddis: more music and reading, and virtually no mainstream news, tho make an exception with large stories like this one on al Bagdadi .
I’m at the point of feeling revulsion for the media, especially ABC & SBS. Thoroughly lobotomised mouthpieces for Empire and Imperialism. They’re now on a par with the garbage you see in Murdochs rags, and just put out the most outrageous crap.
Very impressed with the eloquence and power of Vince Emanuele’s words, and something else he mentioned about the Left being hopelessly splintered and riven by sectarian infighting. United we stand, divided we fall.
Thats one reason I havn’t formally joined a socialist organisation, the other main reason is most socialist groups here seem completely immersed in the dogma of Identity Politics, and nearly all here in Aussie fully ignored Julian Assange for up to 7 years, and have deliberately boycotted protests in support of Julian. A few of them made mealey mouthed half hearted statements when Julian was hauled out of the Ecuadorian Embassy. But that was just pure cynicism, as they’ve gone back to ignoring him again.
I will take part in rallies tho, and have done recently regards Julian Assange and Wikileaks as well as Anti war protests, and keep meaning to join a Palestinian solidarity group, however as Vince said – no excuses. Fully agree with your last 3 lines. Cheers Harry
“I’m at the point of feeling revulsion for the media”
I have been past this point now for quite some time .I can’t stand the bull$hit ,it just drives me nuts .I just don’t watch television at all anymore .I read and go on alternative site that I trust.The truth gives me comfort.
Cheers from Canada .
Agree with you Guy – the truth gives me comfort as well, especially knowing there are others who see the reality of what is going on also =breaks down the sense of isolation, espec if friends & acquaintances swallow the Empire’s narrative put out by things like The Guardian or BBC. For now we have really good independent news sites to check. Cheers from Melbourne…
Thanks for this powerful video by Vince Emanule.It’s very true.I’ll recommend it to MSM readers here in Germany.
Why would America want to kill an Israeli asset, I ask myself.
According to the BBCs foreign editor (chief propagandist) last night, this couldn’t have happened without help from the Kurds, he didn’t explain why, it just sounded right. Meanwhile, Sputnik has the official Russian line: they’ve no knowledge of any American action and doubt the veracity, and another article that claims he was “spotted in Idlib” after one of his men was followed and spyed on for months with drones and stuff (they could make a film about it).
Anyway, is it any wonder no one believes a word MSM says?
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/27/trump-isis-raid-baghdadi-059333
Will someone please think of the damage that has been done to the psyches of ex-slaughterers and children and women killers?
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/27/trump-isis-raid-baghdadi-059333
Does anyone even bother with the mainstream media these days. (Actually – I’m afraid most of the people I meet do, going by their depressingly dense opinions!) But I wouldn’t. Occasionally I look at the text news on the BBC. But I was always aware of a strange phenomenon from way back: A few seconds after looking at the headlines, I found I couldn’t recall a single one. Subtract the dreary crap about sport (and that would be at least a quarter), the royals, the celeb gossip, the “revelation” from an academic research program that took years to finally prove e.g. that poor people have less wealth than the rich, and you have about two items that touch on serious issues but are phrased in such a way that you learn nothing – so you have to go to the internet anyway.
Ditto George. And with Radio 3 but a tiny twist anticlockwise from Radio 4 on my DAB set, my exposure to fine music has shot up since I decided to torture myself no more!
“Every cloud …”, all that jazz, Philip: which is why I & a mate have been saying to one another & many others, for decades:-
“Never forget the music, it helps.”
In other words, ‘spin something good’ and look into the blue ethereal, to find answers,
& pure solutions, just for yourself, your own rules: apply Dostoyevsky’s ” if you want to overcome the whole world, overcome yourself ” & think freely, with sound inspiration. 🙂
Others will follow . . . as minds roam on harmonious ‘waves’ of pure energy.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TBWxjnaIE&list=RDAMVMG5TBWxjnaIE
Thanks Tim. ‘Syria’ is now tune for the day on my blogsite, directly below the masthead and – unlike me – on the right.
Oops. Wrong link – all I did was give you back the one you supplied. Here it is on my site..
Excellent real news of mutual pleasure, that transcends ‘spin’: FYI Philip, the links are all up & running, so I listened to it again, via your site: Thanks 🙂
Great for doing the washing up, reflecting upon & contemplating more serious Syrian matters of an existential nature, including our own.
I’ll clearly have to start tuning into your website more often;
keep up the good work, especially on Julian Assange.
‘It’s now or never’, brother. The History of OUR National Security States, Must be Exposed ! Whatever the cost . . . nothing is more immediately important, than demonstrating how pied pipers like Karl Rove, are calling the tune for criminal ‘tastes’, (sic)
like ex-judicial killings, rather than analysing their intrinsic psychopathy.
Greetings,
Tim
Chulov the churner at the Groaner has been let loose to paint the narrative exposition there – an absolute certainty that the whole thing is a fabrication.
Does he even exist? I’ve never serm a photo byline of him.
Lols what a fine chilled morning – clear blue skies after the fog clears – empires last days start.
Admin, Kit
Durn it I posted my rant on this on Curtin article yesterday rvening.
Is there a way of posting a link to it here or do I havr to copy and paste thr whole lot?
Ps are you planning to post a new article on brexit/election/uk politics/media today? Seeing as the previous one was disrupted by the sites maintenance?
Pps. I have a proper rant brewing this morning. Swinsons perp walking through corridors with an entourage of pubescent wannabees as a patadoy of westwing tracking shot has got me going…
Ppps. Have you decided not to take up my suggestion of a pinned article to debunk onguardian daily bs (and any other stuff?
It would stop off topic posting (by me for sure) and give you guys heads up on topics you may want to write about.
🤗
I must admit, I had no idea who this guy was yesterday and neither do I give a shit today that he is dead, or dead again.
They talk about de-escalation zones but what they are, are buffer zones, i.e. a buffer between Turkey and Kurds living there and in the neighbourhood to prevent a continuous area inhabited by Kurds. A sovereign Kurdistan is an existential threat for Turkey so that has to prevented at all costs. This year it is a buffer zone where Kurds are not allowed. Give it a novelty name like de-escalation zone.
Al-Baghdadi – if he is not dead, then he might now be provoked to say something and thus reveal his whereabouts so that the US can send their killer troops.
Guarding Syrian oil fields? No, guarding Conoco and Chevron oil fields on the taxpayer/Pentagon dime.
Russia must deny a possible involvement because the raid violates Syrian sovereignty and they do not want to anger the muslims in their own country, either.
US must brag about the raid because if they cannot brag about their unique indispensability they get indigestion and send bombers.
Peace will only come to the ME and the rest of the world when religions can be discarded.
“Peace will only come to the ME and the rest of the world when religions can be discarded.”
Wilmers31 this needs to be readjusted to…. “Peace will only come to the ME and the rest of the world when all governments of the world stand up and loudly reject American criminal behaviour on this small planet we live on.”
AIUI this is the 3rd or 4th time that al-Baghdadi has been killed.
Clearly he will have some of his nine lives still remaining.
So I read today in the Graun stenography from the Pentagon that Baghdadi was buried at sea in the true Conveniently Dead Jihadi tradition and that an SDF spy stole Baghdadi’s underpants to get a DNA sample.
Yeah, course they did…
Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Syrian Army slowly and systematically regains ground from a riot of NATZO rootin’ tootin’ looters. Canthama update BTL SyrPer News #304600 & 304618:
https://www.syrianperspective.com/2019/10/manbij-liberated-by-syrian-army.html
Also by military and political analyst Canthama BTL #304619, a tribute to the 81 year old hero of civilization, Dr. Khaled al-Asaad who was the chief archeologist in Palmyra and who suffered torture and death at the cruel hands of NATZO looters but saved a portion of Humankind’s Heritage from the grasping hands of Anglo Zio Capitalist Art Lovers. (Those Art Lovers who Capitally appreciate Art for its Capital Appreciation in their Capitalist world of depreciating fiat money).
Correction: “a riot of NATZO rootin’ tootin’ shootin’ looters.”
O! for an Edit button.
Of course another issue is how Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi managed to be in Idlib Province at all at the time of his death and not in Iraq without someone, anyone, at all recognising him while he travelled from Point A in Iraq to Point B in northwestern Syria.
Maybe one of those tunnels he was accustomed to travelling through turned out to be a time-travel Tardis wormhole? Will one of those tunnels also have fourth-dimension Frankenstein-resurrecting technology that can reassemble his bits and his kids’ bits back together and reanimate them?
Baghdadi, a nice easy name to remember, only died twice. And not a White Helmet in sight…
But the narrative remains consistent. The MSM believe that they can dish out fact free narrative and the weary readers will just swallow it down [with or without a spoonful of sugar]. In this case lots, as Martin Churlov, the Graun’s Middle East Al Qahida luncheon partner, goes all Hardingesque to produce this piece of prepped prose:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/27/nowhere-left-to-run-how-the-us-finally-caught-up-with-isis-leader-baghdadi
What more do we need to know? A fillip for Trump’s withdrawal? Or just justification for more Amerikan banditry of Syrian oil reserves? The dead can’t speak. Lights, camera.. action. Who needs filmed evidence across their breakfast table?
The MSM believe that they can dish out fact free narrative and the weary readers will just swallow it down
Are they wrong? At least in regard to anyone who is still paying attention to them? If somebody still considers the MSM to be credible, what exactly would have to happen for them to change their opinion?
Two brief comments. The first is that there is a remarkable resemblance to the alleged killing of Osama bin Laden, also a US asset that outlived his usefulness. The most reliable evidence suggests that he died of natural causes in November 2001, but was “kept alive” for propaganda purposes for years before an equally propagandistic exercise years later when he was “killed” by US forces (all of whom later died in a plane crash).
The second point is that Trump’s “withdrawal” from Syria lasted all of 24 hours when he admitted that they intended to stay and loot the Syrian oil.
In all the western media reporting of US activities in Iraq and Syria the western media is completely ignoring that any such activity is illegal under international law. It seems, yet again, that there is a “rules based international order” that is differentially applied depending on the asserter of the alleged rights.
Al Bagdaddy, or Big Daddy, or whatever his name was (probably Shlomo Gobbowicz as most ISIS kingpins turn out to be Mossad agents) was supposedly bumped off in Idlib.
That must make him a “moderate rebel”.
Everybody in Idlib is a moderate rebel.
It’s quite impressive how they were immediately able to identify him after he supposedly blew himself up.
Perhaps they had some of those helpful White Helmet chaps on hand to take samples like in Douma and so many other places.
A completely ignored by Western media meeting at the United Nations on October 24, 2019 presented shocking results of a study using questionnaires and interviews of hundreds of Syrians who’d managed to leave/escape from U.S. controlled Rukban and Al-Tanf refugees camps into Syrian government controlled territories. Militants – including ISIS mercenary fighters – under the control of the U.S. military ran the camps, where the witnesses saw atrocious humanitarian crimes being committed with high regularity, and without any opposition from U.S. officials.
One might arguably suggest the October 26, 2019 Al Baghdadi operation, of which there seems a 50/50 split thus far as to whether it really happened or was a false flag military deception, was an off-the-shelf psychological operation designed to counter extremely negative international public perceptions coming from developments precisely such as the explosive United Nations meeting, conducted a mere 48 hours before.
Shameless and shameful. The alerts from WaPo and NYT give pause from their relentless Trump bashing to report on this assassination without any hint they consider what is made clear in this article. The ugly American becomes the hideous American. Bizarre that the brief bashing ceasefire is for crowing about the flouting of international law. They need to develop bashing equity but so much to bash!
The WAPO & NYT = CIA & Wall Street. They all oppose Trump and morn Bagdadi.
Us Mil is directed by these two opposing camps.
How many times has the USA killed Baghdadi now. My memory says four but it could be more. Perhaps it’s time to republish the heady days photographs of his meeting with that patriot gun runner John McCain.
PS It’s always reassuring to read the comments of a draft dodger calling a wealthy battle hardened war veteran a coward.
Most US politicians were fully paid up members of the Bill Clinton Light Infantry.
Billy Bob spent the Vietnam War not inhaling at Oxford.
Supposedly he did a rape while he was there which cut short his Rhodes scholarship.
He did not graduate or get a degree but has dined out on the dubious Oxford connection for decades. Yes he was there but might as well have not been as all he was after was the cachet. His chin-challenged daughter got the Radcliffe Camera cleaned out of real students so she could study in solitude.