WATCH: Days of Judgement: Salem Witch Trials

The salem witch Trials stand as a warning that justice can always be miscarried, when authorities become determined to prosecute non-conformists, “deviants”, or political enemies. And especially when the general population supports these efforts.
Brian Levack

Between 1692 and 1693, in the small township of Salem, Massachusetts, over 200 people were accused of Witchcraft. Twenty of these people were executed: 19 hanged and one man pressed to death.

It is remembered, to this day, as the most infamous instance of mass hysteria in history. But is that all it was?

This documentary, produced to mark the tri-centenary, delves into the history, the social context, the politics of the time, and the possible motivations behind those who made the accusations. (It’s also a timely reminder of just how good the History Channel used to be, and just how far it has fallen).

It’s proven true, over time, that it is necessary to deny people’s humanity – to take that humanity away from your opponents – before you can do serious harm to them.
Stephen Nissenbaum

This Halloween, we present a story of fear eclipsing reason. Of hysteria as a tool of social control. And of the terrible price paid by those who dare to be sane in an insane world.

There are lessons here which society has yet to learn, and parallels to our modern world which cannot be denied.

And that, is truly frightening.

The greatness of these people consisted of the fact that they resisted untruth, and they kept their moral positions to the point of death. That’s what should be remembered.
Arhtur Miller

Days of Judgment: Salem Witch Trials was produced by The History Channel in 1992 to mark the 300th anniversary of the Salem Witch Trials. If you’re interested in obtaining a physical copy the worldcat.com online library has a list here

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mikael
mikael

Yeah, the world is run by an clan so evil its hard to tell the truth, because if told people simply denies it, wont hear it, thrust their head deeper into the sand, and yells lalalala to cover the words, how then to start.
I know what I talk about, been scorn, kicked in the back by people whom I tought could handle it, to been ridiculed for saying it, but in all the years I have held back the real deal, we live in dark times, its infact pitch black, light, well, I see nothing, religion is been comporimised to oblivion, politics even more, and economicly we are in medivial times where scams replace more scams, and yet when I can prove, as others have, money is printed from thin air, franctinal banking created to it can be timed up to 9 times, and yet, yet, nothing happens, nothing.

How is it then when the truth is right infront of you, the shams right into our faces, the MSM lies about everything, and I mean everything, to wipp people into corporat submission, thru economics, and war, vaccines, AGWs, and religion, and nothing happens.
Salem, blessed be those that never gave in, took death as an Human, because they knew they where there to set the standards, even I know nothing will happen in my life time, I know that from the bottom of my soul, but the only thing I do have, is an certaty, that an spark is sett alight, this will grow, slowly, so slowly, but once people awakens, at least some sees it, witch I also know is happening, I can rest in peace.
Just take Hitler as One, Vaccines, the Scam of scams aka the banking, the Bolsewiks, the fake Jews, and then the fake science, fake religion, fake humanism, to fake consciousness, and some of us is just now reaching an point where we can tell you the real truth, that, is coming, but our enemy is stil the same, the elite, the tribes, the corruption of humanity, etc.

What is it people fear, pain, poverty, nothing scares people more than poverty, that, fear, is due to an society that wurships materialism, and ignorance, from life and reality.
I have been on the bottom, stolen food for having something to eat in one of the so called riches country on this planet, as they claim it is, the truth is as long you comply, if not, it crushes you.
I cant to this day talk about reality, since the truth is not that complicated, but its not or nowhere close to what you think it is, science to me died 50 years ago and have declined since, but humans have an potential that is been hidden from us, and that, is what they refuse to talk about, religion to day is so f….. up its wurthless, have nothing to show to, and shows nothing, where if they where true to Christianity I expect them to bleed, be in the front line of wars, econmic scams, fake humanism etc, etc, to stop them, Muslims to, and Followers of any religion since the basics are the same, but nothing happens, instead but they have sold their souls to the inhumane Globalism, facism, corporatism, you name it, its ruining our lands and people and we cant even talk about it, since the MSM attacks anyone whom oposes this, ruthlessly, and silences oposition and now openly advocated propaganda and cencure without shame.
And now, to day, its getting worse and worse, the contempt they show us while we are been robbed is unpresedented.
WE need an f…. revolution, freedom is Never given, freedom is always taken.
Never ever forget that.
Blessed be the peacemakers.
May the lord have mercy upon us all.

peace

PS. just to tell you this, you can walk on the moon, we dont need speaceships, what you need is an mind that works the way our creatore intended it to do, we have an unreleased potential that is beyond your imagination, to me, it dont scare me, what I fear once I trust my self into it, is freedom, since this is the ultimare freedom, but I also know life is prescious, we are here to learn, expand our consciousness, and learn to love, the only force that can create life thru nothing.
I usually never like remixes, but this time I make an expection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9KqM9dG6LU
J.M. Jarre by Madis.

Simon Hodges

Our lives have been dominated by global crisis for the last 18 years. All of them are suspiciously ‘invisible’. First we were confronted with the supposedly global threat of an invisible terrorism and global terrorist network. That cost us a great deal in terms of civil liberties and expensive wars. Next came the global financial crisis which was equally invisible. Was it really a crisis or merely a localized drama that was turned into a global crisis? Given the chance Gordon Brown had a choice whether to back the people or back the a few rogue banks. He chose the banks and sentenced the masses to austerity and the largest transfer of wealth from the masses to the 0.001% that has continued to this day,

Now we are confronted with yet another invisible Co2 induced climate crisis. To claim that all climate change everywhere whether it be a case of either warming or cooling is solely driven by a single tiny amount of an invisible gas is reductive thinking of the highest order. It is no different to the fools Brown and Mervyn King and central bankers who think they can control economies by the micro adjustment of single interest rate.

With even the Guardian recently warning of another financial crisis, the EU and UK still stuck in austerity then how is the EU to spend 25% of all its revenue countering climate change for the next 20 years? What will the yellow vests around Europe make of such a proposition? Where is the money coming from? Cory Morningstar thinks pension funds will pay the bills but the pension funds are all but broke. They needed to auto enrol everyone into private pension schemes simply to try and meet their current commitments. The technocratic ‘solution’ to the GFC of low interest rates and negative yields and made the pensions time bomb worse by orders of magnitude. When GFC2 arrives how will government respond this time? It will be at least 8X more serious than the last one. More austerity for the people to pay for all these invisible crises when no-one can prove that spending $trillions on carbon capture did actually avert a crisis in ten years time as much as they claim that absent QE and the rest that the world economy would have fallen apart?

How is it that the world has spent $trillions and is committing to spend further $trillion on invisible and unverifiable threats? We know that only the 0.001% will benefit. More Neoliberal ‘solutions’ to all the problems of Neoliberal Imperialist Capitalism’s own making. Terrorist Crisis, Financial Crisis and Ecological Crisis. The Global Green New Deal. Like the EU is looks superficially good on paper but precisely like the EU’s hidden Neoliberal constitution you need to carefully read the GGND small print in which you find that the GGND is nothing more than a commitment to a totalitarian future of absolute surveillance. A future where the unprincipled logics of Neoliberal market fundamentalism are programmed into the system at the technological operating system level.

Why is this so scary? Consider health care. Currently our publicly funded systems are entirely irrational in that they will try and do whatever they can to save a patient. Neoliberal market driven AI systems in our soon to be privatised system will not see things the same way as their duty is to maximise returns to shareholders. In this case, the system ceases to see a human being as a patient, but starts to understand ‘it’ more and more in terms of a commodity and the sum value of its parts and organs. We have no idea on what basis any Neoliberal AI health care systems will decide who is worth saving or not. A human being has a value of around $400,000 in body parts. Such advanced systems will monitor the poor and their organs, summon them to hospital when the time is ripe and harvest their value as commodities. The poor especially in the global south will become no better than an organ donor class. Because decisions are made according to the opaque black box parameters given to them by their corporate developers, none of this will be visible. Since all software now is continually updating itself we could never keep track of what ethics was governing it with every update even if we were briefly giving the opportunity to examine the un-compiled source code.

To believe that this will develop otherwise is to believe in the benevolence of a totally corrupted Neoliberal form capitalism which values nothing other than profit. We must halt these monstrous developments immediately, but we are already being told that it is too late.

Antonym
Antonym

Smoke screens from the 1% to hide real crisis-es for the 99% like the secret high budgets of the CIA/ Mi6 / etc, the dismantling of Western industry towards China, the “friendly” Arab oil funded Islam promotion with their nuclear armed Pakistani irregulars, the cheap “refugee” labor/voter import scam.

Simon Hodges

To help tie up some totalitarian loose ends there is also apparently another invisible ‘Identity Crisis’ that needs to be addressed.

https://www.newsweek.com/2019/03/08/can-blockchain-finally-give-us-digital-privacy-we-deserve-1340689.html

A public/corporate partnership ID2020 has been established to address this so called identity crisis. It turns out that Big Tech will ally with Big Pharma and use blockchain technology in order to eventually chip everyone so governments can provide us with better services. In the same vein: Alexa is not a trial balloon surveillance device – its the personal assistant we apparently always wanted and needed.

Other than the usual suspects it is no great surprise to see the Rockerfeller Foundation are behind this new development.

https://id2020.org/alliance

https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines

nwwoods
nwwoods

The Cold War ended in only 1989, at least from Russia’s perspective, which is only a few short years before the NATO crowd succeeded in identifying a replacement enemy. My point is that this global war is of a continuum.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc

Simon Hodges, When I finally discovered the truth about this about 10 years ago ” A human being has a value of around $400,000 in body parts. ” confirmed by Official EU Reports, I simply could not tell my ex (her family were from Serbia) I couldn’t tell my wife (we come from Lancashire). My heart was already broken.. Duringthe war in Yugoslavia..The US and British supplied and funded Kosovo Liberation Army, rounded up, the most beautiful teenage kids in the world, and executed them, just for their body parts, kept fresh and exported by a country we are not allowed to name…Used in British, European and American Hospitals – fresh young spare body parts…

So I told a friend – a very Senior still active member of Our National Health Service, whilst literally crying just before Christmas.

She said Tony, Please do not tell me any more. I can’t take this.

She knew it was true.

I find it hard to handle too.

I still have never told my Ex, nor my Wife about the real evil in this world.

They couldn’t handle it.

They are completely innocent, beautiful and lovely.

The last thing they need is to be corrupted by evil.

Tony

Simon Hodges

Tony

I have read reports on this. The same has also been reported to have happened in Syria. There are completely sick and evil people that walk amongst us, but when these logics find there way into the operating system itself then the whole system becomes inherently evil.

Simon

Antonym
Antonym

It is remembered, to this day, as the most infamous instance of mass hysteria in history.

In a decade or two it will be replaced with the 2019 CO2 mass hysteria. In places like Holland the ruling government has added a N2 hysteria.

Antonym
Antonym

In 2119 some will commemorate the Washington and London Two Eyes whistle blower trials. Those judges will also go into history, blots on their family names.

george
george

There are reasons to suspect that the story of Salem has been officially recorded with as much veracity as the story of 9/11 :

http://mileswmathis.com/salem.pdf

vexarb
vexarb

George, many thanks for a most enlightening Link, with Links within in it, from which this epigram might interest OffG readers:

” Humans are naturally zealous creatures, tending to overthink and oversell everything, except the truth. “

Kathy
Kathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovXRhic3O9I
Couldn’t resist putting this track up.

RobG

I rarely, if ever, praise the BBC, but back in the day Bragg’s ‘In Our Time’ series on Radio 4 was very good (particularly on science matters, imho). If interested here’s Bragg’s programme on the witch trials…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06pxp2z

Brian Steere

Fear of chaos is fear of loss of control that projects itself onto flagged targets to be sacrificed instead of awakening responsibility for fear, in love of truth. Fear is for the most part a self-conflicted state – assigned to its symptoms as externally caused. Without such an ‘enemy’ would we have a ‘self’ in the kind and nature that we pesume?

Fear does usurp reason in the heart – which is a heart and mind as one – when fear is hidden, unowned and projected away.

Self-illusion defended against truth is fearful by definition. If the voice for fear is given worthship as power of protection, then truth is demonised and attacked wherever it ‘threatens’ to expose the lack of substance of deceits that become sin by their persistence. Control being willingly sought by the ignoring and overriding of relationship and communication. That IS the nature of a mental or psychic dissociation from self, other and life under mutually reinforcing illusion. Fear is hateful and hate directed away from self mitigates the ‘hateful self’ This can also operate on the body – such as to interpret disease as an evil to be burned out, destroyed. Germ theory is only a change in terms to substitute pathogens for curses or evils. Addressing the Terrain or living context is addressing the situation that manifests the symptoms of what may be the body’s intent to heal or detoxify. Stephanie Senneff has interesting interpretations of the body as finding workarounds that meet a core need by sacrificing lesser needs in scenarios we define as ‘Life Gone Wrong’ and the call to war of forceful interventions. But what is wrong may be a systemic deficiency, toxicity or imbalance.

The Greek pharmakoi, singular pharmakos, refers to victims who were ritually beaten, driven out of cities, and killed, for example, by being forced over the edge of a precipice. The word pharmakos, designating a person who is selected as a ritual victim, is related to pharmakon, which means both “remedy” and “poison,” depending on the context. In the story of the horrible miracle of Apollonius, the beggar is a pharmakos, a kind of ritual victim. Apollonius points to him as the demon causing the plague (he is the source of pollution or poison), but his lynching restores the well being of Ephesus (he becomes the remedy for the crisis). — Trans.”
~ René Girard, I See Satan Fall Like Lightning

mark
mark

Witchcraft is rife in the world.
There are witches everywhere.
Everybody knows this.
Everybody knows that Trump is a Kremlin agent.
Everybody knows that Corbyn is a communist spy, terrorist and anti semite.
Everybody knows that Iraq had WMD.
Everybody knows that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.
Everybody knows that Putin tried to murder Skripal and committed similar murders elsewhere.
Everybody knows that Russia is rigging all the elections taking place across the world.
Everybody knows that Assad gasses his own people whenever weapons inspectors visit his country.
Everybody knows that Putin bombs every hospital he can find.
Everybody knows that Venezuela is an evil dictatorship that starves its own people.
Everybody knows that Hitler gassed gazillions of Jews.
Everybody knows that we are all about to perish from Global Warming unless we all do as Greta tells us.
Luckily we have a lot of witchfinders around to reveal all these witches to us.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

Did the Nazis not kill lots of European jews, then, Mark? The rest of your list quite rightly calls out ripe propaganda tosh. But no genocide of the jews? At all? Even if it was less than six million…? (About which I have no convincing evidence, and therefore no opinion. Maybe six million, maybe not. I only have the victors’ ‘news’ and official ‘history’ narratives to go on, so nothing trustworthy so far.)

mark
mark

I don’t know, Rhisiart.
I only know that historically we’ve been lied to about everything else, so why not that as well?
Some of these claims are obviously untrue.
Others are just recycled WW1 propaganda.
This sort of thing is as old as the hills.
The Romans directed very similar propaganda campaigns against the Carthaginians and Ancient Britons, amongst others.
Why wouldn’t they do that?
People had to be fired up with atrocity stories to endure the hardships of the war. An expression of hatred for an enemy and a justification for their own actions during the war.
During WW1 we had the Bayonetted Belgian Babies, the Raped Belgian Nuns, the Crucified Canadian Prisoners, the Human Bodies Turned Into Soap.
In recent times we have had the Iraq Incubator Babies, the 100,000 genocided Kosovans, 9/11, the Syrian Gas Hoaxes, Skripal, Russiagate. You could go on forever with other examples.
We have seen how easy it is to manufacture “evidence”, made to order. Doctored photographs, false testimony, fabricated footage, distortions and outright lies, endlessly repeated. Anyone asking awkward questions vilified and demonised, threatened and intimidated, and worse. Ask Chelsea Manning or Julian Assange.
Just repeating the above few lines is enough to put you in jail for years in many countries.
What are they so scared of?
I don’t know what really happened here. I don’t know what really happened on 9/11. I just have very strong misgivings about the official narratives on both.
I remember many years ago reading about “3.5 million Jews gassed at Auschwitz,” and “10,000 Jews a day gassed at Auschwitz.” The simple arithmetic didn’t add up. Then over the years the numbers were steadily revised downwards, 2.5 million, 2 million, 1.5 million. Now we are down to “1.1 million”, or “about a million.” A plaque was recently removed with a figure of “4 million” replaced by another one with “1.4 million.”
Why do we have to accept being lied to and treated with such contempt? If it was half a million, or 100,000, that’s still a monstrous crime. So why lie to us about it?
But that’s not the point. It’s just an example, a case of thinking outside the box. What else have we been lied to about that we haven’t ever thought of questioning?
If I lie to you a hundred times, and you know that I have, are you going to believe a single word I say about anything?

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

Frank
Frank

Bla bla bla bla bla

milosevic
milosevic

Maybe six million, maybe not. I only have the victors’ ‘news’ and official ‘history’ narratives to go on, so nothing trustworthy so far.

It seems to me that the document below makes an absolutely overwhelming case for the real origin of the “six million” statistic. If some serious evidence were available for it being factually correct, that would be one thing, but in the absence of any such, I think this research essentially settles the question — wherever and whenever Jews are said to be suffering and dying, rightly or wrongly, the official number of victims is six million. Initially, it may have had some kind of numerological significance, but then became a traditional feature of propaganda discourse. The WW2 “holocaust” religion does not deviate from the traditional narrative, although the fact of the prior existence of that narrative has since been suppressed.

https://archive.org/details/SIXMILLIONOPENGATESByS.A.R.Lynch271

Lysias
Lysias

The statement ridiculed was that Hitler gassed gazillions of Jews. My understanding is that it is very much open to question how many Jews were gassed.

Admin
Admin

No OT holocaust debate here please

padre
padre

What is most annoying is the fact, that Hitler murdered far more non Jews, but it seems, that only Jews matter!Did you ever see a number of Slavic people he murdered, or Gypsies, no because only Jews matter!

Joerg
Joerg

@Rhisiart Gwilym
I am shocked by Your raciest view! I think that 75 years after the Holocaust at least by now You should know better than to talk of “genocide of the jews” and “six million”.

Your view is racialist for two reasons:
1) Among those many murdered by the Nazis the Holocaust defines only those, who had been murdered because of fanatic racialist delusion – and there is and was good reason to do so.
But then You have also to mention the ½ million murdered Gipsies (or as we nowadays often say “Sinti and Roma”). So the only correct definition of the victims of the holocaust is to speak of ‘6 ½ million murdered humans’.

2) Your use of the word “jew” is totally racialist and you use it exactly the same as did the Nazis.
a) But there is no ‘Jewish race’ or ‘the race of the Jews’! The word “Jew” defines a follower of a certain religion. There are even Jews in Ethiopia.
b) And even if you would stick to Your racialist definition of “jews” – the Nazis also murdered what they called ‘half-Jews’ (what they called “Halbjude”) and even – although much more seldom – ‘quarter-jews’ (what they called “Vierteljude”). So if someone had an ‘Aryan’ (Nazi cant) parent and a ‘Jewish’ (Nazi cant) parent – why does that make this person a “Jew” by race?!
And why is somebody, who has one grandmother or grandfather considered by the Nazis to be ‘Jewish’ makes him or her a “Jew” by race?!
The Nazis called them “Jews” under the (sick) aspect of impure – or spoiled – ‘Aryan blood’. But that were the Nazis! You, Rhisiart Gwilym, should know better by now!

3) And now a last word to “Anti-Semitism”: “Anti-Semitism” was created by the French Count Gobineau in the first half of the 19th century. This because France wanted to conquer (Arabic-Semitic inhabited) North-Africa. And “Anti-Semitism” is – to this day – always directed against Arabs. And also against the ‘Semitic’ Palestinians. The Palestinians are ‘Semitic’ because they are the only true descendants of the old Hebrews (also in Iran and India there are some true descendants of the old Hebrews). And by this race teaching of Gobineau also the old Hebrews were considered “Semites”.
Those, who were murdered by the Nazis as “Jews” were not at all “Semites”, but descendants of the Khasars ( a Turk-people), an Empire east and west of the Black Sea, that turned to the Mosaic religion at about 600 A.D.
This is why the Nazis could murder so many “Jews” especially in East Europe. And this is why there are still so many “Jews” in Russia – because their ancestors were from there!
And at least in Russia most of the descendants of the old Khasars still have their old religion.

Jen
Jen

Erm, no room in The Holocaust for other victims like mentally and physically disabled people, people known or suspected to be homosexual and POWs of enemy nations who also died in the concentration camps?

The total list of victims would balloon out to at least 10 million and an upper figure of 15 million. Not to mention those lynched by collaborators or who died from starvation or neglect in areas occupied by Nazi forces. Can we include, as an example, the 300,000 people (estimated) who starved to death in Greece in the winter of 1941/2 during Nazi occupation of that country?

Joerg
Joerg

@Jen
I don’t know what You mean.
Yes, yes, the Nazis murdered much more than those mentioned in the Holocaust. And this is exactly why I wrote: “Among those many murdered by the Nazis the Holocaust defines only those, who had been murdered because of fanatic racialist delusion …”.
And this is also why I didn’t criticise Rhisiart Gwilym, when he only mentioned those murdered by racialist delusion (“six million … jews”). He is correct insofar – and also me – as the “Holocaust” picks these victims out of the rest (possibly “10 million” or even more).

Joerg
Joerg
Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

‘…the “Holocaust…”’

Which ‘Holocaust’? If you mean שׁוֹאַת יְהוּדֵי אֵירוֹפָּה then call it by its proper name, in English transliteration ‘the Shoah’ (capitalized), or we won’t know which culturally misappropriated English terminolgy you are referencing (c.f. النكبة‎, al-Nakbah).

Joerg
Joerg

@Robbobbobin
Which ‘Holocaust’?
Well, just read what I wrote above about the “Holocaust”. I wrote: “Among those many murdered by the Nazis the Holocaust defines only those, who had been murdered because of fanatic racialist delusion …

And, no: the word “Holocaust” is not “(an) English transliteration (of)‘the Shoah’” . Instead it is a word of ancient Greek and ancient Latin language.
The Greek word ‘kalein’ stands for ‘burning’ and ‘holo’ stands for ‘all’.
When in the classical ancient time West-Rome and East-Rome (later: “Byzantium”) took over the Christian religion they read in the Bible of sacrifices to god by burning animals. And although the non-Christian Romans and Greeks also knew sacrifices to gods by burning animals they only had the tradition to burn only parts of animals. So they called these sacrifices mentioned in the Bible ‘holo-kalein’, which is ‘burning all’ (of the animal).
Then, since the 12th century the word Holocaust was used for victims of a conflagration.
And then since 1865 the word was used by English-language authors/historians for the mass-murder of Armenians .
Then in 1942 the word was – for the first time – used in Great Britain for the racialist mass-murders of the Nazi. In the 1960s the USA followed. And (West-)Europe followed in the 1970s when the TV-serial “The Holocaust” was taken over from the US.

By the way: We also speak auf the “Nuclear Holocaust”, and, in reference to the mass-murder of native Americans there is also the term “American Holocaust”, and so on ….

Tristram Land
Tristram Land

Also not to mention the 12 million plus ethnic German residents of eastern Europe who were displaced, forcibly relocated,brutalised,raped murdered and abused after the war for the crime of being German,most of them from communities that had co-existed for hundreds of years with their Slavic neibours and who had nothing to do with the rise of national socialism in Germany

mark
mark

I’m sorry if you think I’m “raciest.”
I won’t take up too much space and hog the comments.
You may not think there is a Jewish race. You may even be right. But I do know that an awful lot of Jews, Israelis and Zionists would give you an argument on that point. They have gone to quite extreme lengths to prove the existence of one, with supposed unique DNA markers. Whether you are right or they are doesn’t seem all that important to me.
Though if there isn’t a Jewish race, or if races don’t exist as we’re often told, then presumably it’s difficult to be racist. You can’t have your cake and eat it.
Regarding the gypsies, figures of 700,000, 200,000, and even a million, are casually bandied about. It’s the same story. I don’t have a problem with much else of what you say.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

John Michael Greer has a perceptive answer to the sort of deranged ‘logic’ that you lay out here Joerg. Me a racist/anti-semite indeed! LOL! A bit like Jeremy Corbyn is then? Hah! I could put you in touch with my jewish friends, or my half-African foster-son, if I thought such contact with actual reality might dissolve your delusionality, J. But – for the reasons which John Michael lays out so lucidly – I guess that’s a forlorn hope. Racist indeed! LOLOLOL! Back to the locked ward, Jeorg:

https://www.ecosophia.net/dancers-at-the-end-of-time-part-one-the-flight-from-reason/

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

That should be Joerg of course. Sorry to mangle your name, J? Your ‘reasoning’ is still completely up the creek, though. 🙂

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

“But there is no ‘Jewish race’ or ‘the race of the Jews’!”

So why is mitochondrial DNA such a big number for so many Orthodox Jews of varying degrees of fundamentalism, and many, many more less strictly orthodox Jews? Because you know better than them or because you know better than Rhisiart?

When it comes to disingenuously having your cake and eating it, what don’t you know about the perversions of the vicious mindfuckers and rapers of bodies politic in AIPAC and their fellow travellers?

crispy
crispy

A shaman has been arrested for marching to Moscow so he could exorcise the evil from Putin

Trouble is Putin’s goons got to him first

You can actually see the evil in Putin’s fat bloated face, i actually think hes possessed by vile evil, so the shaman couldn’t do his work and save Russia means Russia is finished

So yup you’re bang on the money about how bad Putin and his mate Assad are, total evil and scum

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

Crispy, you sure you’re on the right website? Were you looking for Breitbart ‘News’?

crispy
crispy

I’m not really sure what kind of site I’m on?

It appears to be a emotionally left wing although it’s happy to give support to all kinds of nasty authoritarian regimes

I’m sure of one thing, most of those who comment hear in such a negative way about their own government, without may i add any sanctions from said government, ie being arrested, tortured, bankrupt or persecuted, should think themselves lucky although i know they don’t, instead they’re busy creating a narrative that they actually live in some sort of fascist state

I’d like to think off-guardian could and should run a series of articles about Putin’s Russian regime and how its clamping down on civil rights and political freedoms just so its readers can get a more complete picture about a country which is often upheld as some sort of leader of a new global order, which appears to based upon the principles of Westphalian authoritarian values instead of liberal democratic values

So basically i dont need to read your suggested site, but i would like some sort of balance and honesty in a website which boasts about ‘facts being sacred’

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

Go on then, C: use your freedom to speak without persecution – which you’ll certainly find here (though you will get shot down in flames if you try hasbarollockser-style crap-rhetoric):

“Putin’s Russian regime [oh that tell-tale meaning-free snarl-noise!] and how its [sic] clamping down on civil rights and political freedoms”.

You mean the legitimately-elected government and president, do you; with their persistently-high public approval? (Vlad, anyway.) Do tell! Accurate, verifiable chapter and verse, please, with *reliable* sources linked. Detailed, objective evidence rules, OK! Just flatly regurgitating the false-memes with which we’ve all been gavaged by the West’s mediawhores and polwhores, as if they were self-evident ‘truths’, not requiring any evidential support, won’t cut it here, I’m afraid.

Should say: I have zero illusions about the lillywhite rectitude of any practical politician engaged in running a big state. I operate on the principle that they all, without exception, have the stink of some nasty acts hanging about them; that’s just how realpolitik is. Machiavelli is mercilessly enlightening about this in ‘Il Principe’ and ‘Discorsi sopra la prima deca di Tito Livio’. Still a sound insider’s insight, after all these centuries.

OTOH, as someone said just recently, wouldn’t it be a hoot if we had someone of VVPutin’s stature as a statesman operating in some of the Western states…? Warts and all, that would still be a *net* gain for us all: S0meone a cut above the fully-purchased pocket-pol and churnalist moral midgets serving the neoliberal big-biz gangsters-in-charge who own them, in return for fat(ish) incomes and fancy careers; the sort of sordid, powerfularse-kissing petty creeps whom we-all have to endure presently in Western politics and lamestream media.

I for one wouldn’t mind ‘a little touch of Vladi in the night’, to counter all that dross. Who knows: maybe Jeremy C will get a small chance to act that way soon; as a genuine statesman of stature…?

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

PS: I wasn’t really recommending Breitbart ‘News’. I wouldn’t clear up my dog’s droppings with it, as it might contaminate my compost bin. Just thought, from the tone of your regurged slagging of Russia, that you might be more at home there.

crispy
crispy

what an excitable and very predictable chap you are, but then all one needs to do is read your comments,it’s sooooooo predictable,and that my friend is what real brainwashing does to people

I’ll get my coat!

crispy
crispy

If you could only break out of your little, and very noisy echo chamber you’d be able to very easily avail yourself of the facts about Putin and his regime

But people don’t want to, so its your problem not mine, oh and don’t encourage Corbyn to act like a tin pot version of Putin, Corbyn is bad enough as it is!

But since we’re dealing with confirmation bias here’s mine,try this beauty of an article its called,

‘Twelve reasons why Russia sucks’ by James Sunderland…enjoy😂

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

If you’re putting this stuff up as evidence C, I’ll take that as a ‘no’ to my request for the real thing, and assume that you’re not going to be serious about it. And yes, I did read the ridiculous Sunderland piece.

Strike one! Two more goes, and if they’re both as useless as your first effort, I’ll put you on my dade list: the posters whose names mean that I always just skip their inputs unread. Life’s too short to use any of it up on time-wasters.

DR. DADE, btw, acronyms the phrase: ‘Don’t Read. Don’t Answer, Don’t Engage: This practical surfer’s response to slagging time-wasters.

Over to you, sunshine! Let’s see your last couple of efforts before – as I suspect already – I have to drown you in Dr. Dade’s specific. :O)

crispy
crispy

Ooooh ‘DR DADE’ book me in for therapy!

I couldn’t care less frankly,strike me out

As for the link i did say it was confirmation bias did i not?
and it did obviously have the effect i knew it would!

But if you look at the 85 comments to said article you’ll become aware of a simple fact, most people, including Russians absolutely agree!

now heres a little factoid according to a recent survey in Russia about 44% of young Russians would like to leave,WOW! i wonder why? The clue follows,see bellow,,wink,wink!

Other recent surveys of those who’ve left said they absolutely wouldn’t want to go back, the reason, that fabulous chap Putin!

RT International,you know that fantastic propaganda channel, question more and all of that, as long as its not about Russia, also has a documentary channel, i don’t know if you’ve ever watched it?

But if you have you’ll come away with a distinctly grim picture of contemporary Russia, stories of utter bleakness such as,

Old sad dirty people who crave for the Soviet days,utterly depressing and sad dancing about in some broken down filthy public park

Alcoholics, wrist slitting and grim!

Pagans!!!! Very grim, and weird

Some old abused dirty woman living in the forest sad exceedingly grim

Young army recruits going off to face a brutal time in Putin’s army, oh and a story about submarine service and some dangerous looking old rust bucket death trap, which i found unbelievably run down, but hey thats modern Russian Putin super force’s for ya!

Shamen, but not ones who get arrested! propaganda!

stressed out train drivers and staff trying to keep clapped out trains in service, humiliating to watch in a grim kind of way,especially when they have to use coal stoves in each carriage to keep warm, fillng the place with nasty smoke( privatisation to blame apparently)

A female pilot of a Volga river ferry,grim!

Priests in some sad derelict monastery, desperately attempting to restore it,sad

Oh and the latest offering ‘big sister’ more sad and utterly depressing stuff, all via RT International

So you see a good deal of my confirmation bias has come actually from the Russian state who think showering this stuff is clever, which it isn’t as all it does is paint a gloomy sad and very depressing picture of Russia however

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym

‘Byeeeee C!

Heathen Tinker
Heathen Tinker

Crispy?Is that because your brain is fried?