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Gone Fishing? No Fish, but Plenty of Pesticides & a Public Health Crisis

Colin Todhunter

There is mounting evidence that a healthy soil microbiome protects plants from pests and diseases. One of the greatest natural assets that humankind has is soil. But when you drench it with proprietary synthetic chemicals or continuously monocrop as part of a corporate-controlled industrial farming system, you can kill essential microbes, upset soil balance and end up feeding soil a limited doughnut diet of unhealthy inputs.

Armed with their synthetic biocides, this is what the transnational agritech conglomerates do. These companies attempt to get various regulatory and policy-making bodies to bow before the altar of corporate ‘science’.

But, in reality, they have limited insight into the long-term impacts their actions have on soil and its complex networks of microbes and microbiological processes. Soil microbiologists are themselves still trying to comprehend it all.

That much is clear when Linda Kinkel of the University of Minnesota’s Department of Plant Pathology said back in 2014:

We understand only a fraction of what microbes do to aid in plant growth.”

And it’s the same where ‘human soil’ is concerned.

People have a deep microbiological connection to soils and traditional processing and fermentation processes, which all affect the gut microbiome – the up to six pounds of bacteria, viruses and microbes akin to human soil. And as with actual soil, the microbiome can become degraded according to what we ingest (or fail to ingest).

Many nerve endings from major organs are located in the gut and the microbiome effectively nourishes them. There is ongoing research taking place into how the microbiome is disrupted by the modern globalised food production/processing system and the chemical bombardment it is subjected to.

The human microbiome is of vital importance to human health yet it is under chemical attack from agri-food giants and their agrochemicals and food additives. As soon as we stopped eating locally-grown, traditionally-processed food, cultivated in healthy soils and began eating food subjected to chemical-laden cultivation and processing activities, we began to change ourselves.

Along with cultural traditions surrounding food production and the seasons, we also lost our deep-rooted microbiological connection with our localities. It was traded in for corporate chemicals and seeds and global food chains dominated by the likes of Monsanto (now Bayer), Nestle and Cargill.

Environmentalist Dr Rosemary Mason says that glyphosate disrupts the shikimate pathway within these gut bacteria and is a strong chelator of essential minerals, such as cobalt, zinc, manganese, calcium, molybdenum and sulphate.

In addition, it kills off beneficial gut bacteria and allows toxic bacteria to flourish. She adds that we are therefore facing a global metabolic health crisis linked to glyphosate.

Many key neurotransmitters are located in the gut. Aside from affecting the functioning of major organs, these transmitters affect our moods and thinking.

There is strong evidence that gut bacteria can have a direct physical impact on the brain. Alterations in the composition of the gut microbiome have been implicated in a wide range of neurological and psychiatric conditions, including autism, chronic pain, depression and Parkinson’s Disease.

Recently published research indicates that glyphosate and Roundup are proven to disrupt gut microbiome by inhibiting the shikimate pathway.

Dr Michael Antoniou of King’s College London has found that Roundup herbicide and its active ingredient glyphosate cause a dramatic increase in the levels of two substances, shikimic acid and 3-dehydroshikimic acid, in the gut, which are a direct indication that the EPSPS enzyme of the shikimic acid pathway has been severely inhibited.

The researchers found that Roundup and glyphosate affected the microbiome at all dose levels tested, causing shifts in bacterial populations.

This confirms what Mason has been highlighting for some time. However, she has also been pointing out the environmental degradation resulting from the spiralling use of glyphosate-based herbicides and has just written an open letter to the Principal Fisheries Officer of Natural Resources Wales (NRW), Peter Gough (NRW is the environment agency for Wales).

The letter runs to 20 pages and focuses on glyphosate and neonicotinoid insecticides. She asks who would re-authorise a pesticide that is toxic to aquatic life with long-lasting effects and is causing serious eye damage along with various forms of cancers and a wide range of other health conditions?

She answers her question by saying the European Glyphosate Task Force and Jean-Claude Juncker President of the EC along with various regulators in Europe who have basically capitulated to an industry agenda.

Mason argues that the European Glyphosate Task Force (who actually did the re-assessment of glyphosate) omitted all the studies from South America where they had been growing GM Roundup Ready crops since 1996. She discusses the suppression of key research which indicated the harmful effects of glyphosate.

The Principal Fisheries Scientist Wales sent Mason two NRW Reports two years ago. In it, Mason discovered that giant hogweed on the River Usk bank had been treated with a glyphosate-based herbicide.

NRW had also admitted to not studying the effects of neonicotinoids, which had been introduced in 1994. Mason pointed out to NRW that run-off from farms of clothianidin in seeds would be enough to kill off aquatic invertebrates.

In early January, NRW attempted to explain the absence of salmon and trout in the River Usk on climate change (warming of the river), rather than poisoning of the river, which is what Mason had warned the agency about two years ago.

In Britain, information on emerging water contaminants has been suppressed, according to Mason, and there is no monitoring of either neonics or glyphosate in surface or ground water. In the US, though, measurements of these chemicals have been carried out on farmland and their correlation with massive declines in invertebrates by separate agencies and universities in the US and Canada.

Mason notes there has been 70 years of poisoning the land with pesticides. Although the National Farmers Union and the Department for Environment and Rural Affairs in the UK say fewer pesticides are now being applied, the Soil Association indicates massive increases of increasing numbers of pesticides at decreasing intervals (official statistics obtained via a Freedom of Information request).

Readers should consult the full text of Mason’s open letter on the acamedia.edu site to gain wider insight into the issues outlined above and many more, such as government collusion with major agrochemical corporations, the shaping of official narratives on illness and disease to obscure the role of pesticides and Monsanto’s poisoning of Wales.

What Mason outlines is not specific to Wales or the UK; the increasing use of damaging agrochemicals and government collusion with the industry transcends national borders.

Nation-states are becoming increasingly obsolete and powerless in the face of globalised capitalist interests that seek to capture and exploit markets, especially in the Global South.

What follows is the e-mail that Mason sent to Peter Gough by way of introducing her letter to him.

Dear Peter,

The European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) classified glyphosate as a substance that is toxic to aquatic life with long-lasting effects

Your colleague Dave Charlesworth declared on BBC 1 Breakfast last week that the declines in salmon and trout were due to climate change and warming of the rivers. I told you just over 2 years ago that it was due to pesticides and showed you the proof from assorted NRW documents you sent me.

Why are NRW, the government, ‘top’ UK doctors, farmers, the corporations, the media and global pesticides regulators protecting the agrochemical industry? All of you could suffer from the effects of pesticides in food, in water, in the air and in rain. Why don’t you inform the people?

Monsanto claims that Roundup doesn’t affect humans, but their sealed secret studies that scientist Anthony Samsel obtained from the US EPA, shows evidence of cancers and that bioaccumulation of 14C labelled glyphosate occurred in every organ of the body (page 9).

The NFU and Defra deny they are responsible for 70 years of poisoning the land and the subsequent insect apocalypse; they should read their own document “Healthy Harvest.” The National Farmers’ Union (NFU), the Crop Protection Association (CPA) and the Agricultural Industries Confederation (AIC) combined to lobby the EU not to restrict the 320+ pesticides available to them. The publication is called: HEALTHY HARVEST. [1] (Pages 6-9)

The Department of Health and the Chief Medical Officer for England claim that parents are responsible for obesity in primary school children. However, Pesticides Action Network (PAN) analysed the Department of Health’s Schools Fruit and Vegetable Scheme and found that there were residues of 123 pesticides in it, some of which are linked to serious health problems such as cancer and disruption of the hormone system.

When PAN informed them, they said that pesticides were not the concern of the DOH. (Page 14, 13-16).

Dr Don Huber, Emeritus Professor of Plant Pathology, Purdue University, US, speaking about GMO crops and glyphosate, said: “Future historians may well look back upon our time and write, not about how many pounds of pesticide we did or didn’t apply, but by how willing we are to sacrifice our children and future generations for this massive genetic engineering experiment that is based on flawed science and failed promises just to benefit the bottom line of a commercial enterprise.” (Page 18)

Kind regards,

Rosemary

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Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jan 20, 2020 11:46 AM

So much BTL tut-tutting, so little BTL now what?ing

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 8:19 PM

cf. John McMurtry’s “Cancer Stage of Capitalism”: The ‘cancer stage of capitalism’ has been widely misunderstood as a ‘metaphor’, including by this book’s marketers. It is not a metaphor, but an explanatory model. A metaphor identifies a likeness, as in “he is a lion in battle”. Because it blinkers out the weaponry, skills, and strategy that the man has but not the lion, it is an image which fails to explain beyond an impression. In contrast, the cancer model of capitalism is an explanatory mode. For all of the hallmark characteristics of cancer invasion apply to the self-multiplying money-sequence system at the macro level of life reproduction, as we see in depth ahead. The pattern is first recognised in emergent global capital sequences which proliferate, decouple from and attack the productive functions of life hosts. A process of elimination leaves it as the only unifying framework of all the data.… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 21, 2020 7:22 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I could never agree that capitalism had reached a ‘ cancer stage’. For my money it was neoplastic in every way since the get-go.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Jan 18, 2020 6:10 PM

The foundational myth systems that undergird our global capitalist order are quite simply completely insane and totally detached from physical reality. Endless growth on a finite planet? The earth’s land, water, air and even human and animal bodies as simply a – dumping ground – for our ever increasing toxic wastes while collectively pretending the consequences of such madness are somehow unimportant? Funneling massive amounts of global resources, both intellectual and economic, into the creation of and endless stockpiling of, ever more deadly military weapons and delivery systems that can literally destroy the very habitability of the planet many times over, yet with no end in sight? We’re a now simply a bizarre global “death cult” rather than anything resembling a sustainable civilization. Humane values, the basic earth-connected Indigenous values that sustained humanity for many millennia aren’t even allowed a seat at the table. Such values are instead mocked and… Read more »

richard le sarc
richard le sarc
Jan 18, 2020 10:46 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

The problem with capitalism is that it represents the human psychopath in action, with their insatiable greed, massive egomania and hatred of others (including ALL Life on Earth and future generations), love of violence and killing, and all the other odious paraphernalia of the Rightwing Authoritarian Personality type. Even their ‘religions’ are cults of death, destruction and hatred. The antithesis of the capitalist is not so much Marx, but Jesus Christ.

Protect
Protect
Jan 18, 2020 1:05 PM

US war on humanity:
– Bombs on brown people
– Poisons in white People’s food and (increasingly) in air and water

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 1:28 PM
Reply to  Protect

Yes, and also the dangerous EMF/RF/pulsed frequencies saturating our environment: e.gs 4G, 5G, wifi, wireless tech, mobile phones, DECT phones, smart meters and other smart devices, and even dirty electricity e.g. in badly wired buildings.

These dangerous EMF/RF/pulsed frequencies cumulatively affects animals’ and humans’ physical bodies (especially our DNA, mitochondria, our immune systems and fertility health) and brain (mental health), and it also affects plants including trees. It also affects the navigation system of insects including wasps and bees. People should research this – there are many independent studies from all around the world about this subject; and Barrie Trower’s work is a good start along with Dr. Martin Pall’s work on 5G etc.

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 1:36 PM
Reply to  Protect

Re: pollution of air/water/ soil/food: also geoengineering – contrails are different from chemtrails/geoengineering so what is actually being sprayed into our skies (that subsequently falls onto our lands and water)?

And of course the ultimate questions are not just what and when, but also who and why are the establishment poisoning us all with all these different methods? Eugenics, depopulation of most of us into a controllable number (like the Georgia Guidestones state) once we are in a centralised, technocratic ‘global governance’ world?

We the public need to be more curious and question things more; research then pressure the ‘authorities’ to give us honest answers?

Protect
Protect
Jan 19, 2020 12:47 AM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

2018 Research into hair dye sold to black women “[A] new study looked at 18 different hair products including hot oil treatments, anti-frizz hair polishes, leave-in conditioners, root stimulators, hair lotions, and hair relaxers. The products were chosen based on results from a survey of Black women asking them about their product use. “The researchers tested each product for the presence of 66 endocrine disruptors that are associated with a variety of health effects including reproductive disorders, birth defects, asthma, and cancer. A total of 45 endocrine disruptors were detected, with each product containing anywhere between 4 and 30 of the target chemicals: – 11 products contained 7 chemicals prohibited in the European Union (EU) or regulated under California’s Proposition 65. Hair relaxers marketed at children contained the highest levels of 5 chemicals prohibited in the EU or regulated under Proposition 65. – Parabens, fragrances, nonylphenols, and diethyl phthalate were… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 19, 2020 2:26 AM
Reply to  Protect

Yes, despicable stuff. Horrible. Sadly, it’s the same with almost all mainstream-shop toiletries like all make-up, all deodorants (parabens and aluminium that causes cancer). Also household products like washing-up liquid and shop soap/cleansers etc. Even stuff like Johnson’s talcum powder (that people use for babies was exposed by people to show it had asbestos in it?!). Really horrendous, all this poison put into our day-to-day items. Personally, I stopped using as much artificial man-made chemical products as possible since 2006. Stopped using any aluminium cooking pans etc even earlier than that. That’s why I homestead full-time now – I make literally everything from scratch: ALL food recipes (including making own stock/broth, desserts, dried fruit, roasted snacks, sauces and dips), I make our own ‘soap’ and toothpaste, and use traditional things to clean the house like vinegar, salt, bicarbonate of soda, and lemon, etc. Bicarb, ACV, herbs and iodine for ‘medicine’… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 19, 2020 2:39 AM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Forgot to say, the thing that guides me is tradition – what things did our grandparents/great-grandparents and earlier traditionally use in their era? I think what they used in their life was probably much safer than the consumer/packaged stuff forced on us in this era? E.g. the cleaning items I mentioned in my comment above(using vinegar, salt, lemon and bicarb instead of supermarket washing-up liquid like our ancestors used).

Protect
Protect
Jan 20, 2020 2:54 AM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Eating like our grandparents did is definitely the best way to eat! Food without industrial additives is medicine.

Day after day, a study after study are showing modern food is a blight on humans, assaulting every organ inside our body.

Nowadays, to find what products to use and consume, and learn about all the harm caused by ‘modern’ foods and additives requires time and dedication, as if it is a full-time job.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 21, 2020 7:23 AM
Reply to  Protect

The ‘ regulators’??!! I’ ll piss myself if I laugh any harder.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jan 19, 2020 9:27 AM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Re: pollution of air/water/ soil/food: also geoengineering – contrails are different from chemtrails/geoengineering so what is actually being sprayed into our skies (that subsequently falls onto our lands and water)?

Jet fuel (avtur, Jet A-1 and Jet B) aerosols and partial/complete combustion residues.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jan 20, 2020 5:37 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Got my first👎just when I wasn’t going to score today!

How to pollute the atmosphere from ground to stratosphere with naphtha combustion products and have flocks of urban idiots postulate that their effects–from supposedly direct to still unresearched and possibly adjuvant–must be down to widespread alternative spraying of distilled rats vomit or concentrated solutions of freeze-dried district nurse’s knickers powder. No wonder tinfoil has a bad name.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc
Jan 18, 2020 10:46 PM
Reply to  Protect

And coronaviruses in Wuhan fish markets.

stonecircle
stonecircle
Jan 18, 2020 12:09 PM

I often hear farmers advocating zero till cultivation methods to produce arable crops such as wheat. They say this practice eliminates the need to plough using heavy tractors. For this reason they claim it is better for the soil which is less compacted than it would otherwise be. Instead of ploughing the fields are sprayed with a glyphosate herbicide after harvest. The seed is then drilled into the soil. I wonder if anyone is monitoring what harm this process, repeated year after year, is doing to the soil. Over time I would think it is possible that the soil will become sterile. Nitrogen fixing bacteria will be destroyed, beneficial bacteria and fungi will be decimated and creatures such as worms will disappear from the field. In addition the food and animal feed crops produced from the fields will be depleted of minerals vital to health such as manganese, calcium and… Read more »

richard le sarc
richard le sarc
Jan 18, 2020 10:49 PM
Reply to  stonecircle

We’ve LONG known that glyphosate and proprietary preparations like Roundup sterilise the soil, killing its living biota. Modern capitalist agriculture kills the soil.

Gall
Gall
Jan 20, 2020 7:03 AM

Should be: “Modern capitalist agriculture kills” there I fixed it 😉

stonecircle
stonecircle
Jan 18, 2020 11:53 AM

Protect
Protect
Jan 18, 2020 2:11 AM

There are myriad of products and services that can make more profits while keeping and improving people’s health. So, the profit argument doesn’t explain the insistence and persistence in deliberate increase in the use of these agri-Poisons.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc
Jan 18, 2020 5:47 AM
Reply to  Protect

Yes it does-the parasites will make a profit out of anything that returns sufficient gelt, whether it harms Life on Earth or does not. There is no morality in it but greedy self-interest.

Grafter
Grafter
Jan 18, 2020 12:41 AM

Excellent article showing “agribusiness*as yet another means to poison human beings for the sake of profit. The depravity of the elite cam sink no farther.

Binra
Binra
Jan 17, 2020 11:41 PM

I am pleased that other aspects of power wielded by stealth is coming into OG. Medical Mafia is another tentacle. I find it rather sad that people still associate eugenics as simply ‘capitalism’. It is a derivative of unregulated capitalism – as the cartel power to capture the levers of power across a broad spectrum. Its power by deceit and coercion that can create the official narratives that operate its sustainability at our expense. Now it may be that people involved in ‘delivering’ toxicity knowingly run under some narrative justification – I found that my local council do. Instead of a precautionary principle we have top down edicts of ‘perfectly safe’ and the is ‘top’ seeded and incentivised as a range of global ‘experts’, or NGO’s and key opinion leaders. But the target is Life. Not selected lives – as in different vaccines for the ‘developing nations’, or toxic and… Read more »

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Jan 18, 2020 9:09 AM
Reply to  Binra

The problem is the capitalists capturen the regulators. Has this ever been prevented anywhere?

Binra
Binra
Jan 20, 2020 6:48 PM

Once the legal or regulatory framework has been changed to protect the ‘monopolist’ or cartel interest against public accountability, it has also effectively captured the Media and educational system. This hasn’t – as far as I can see – ever been rolled back – excepting token sacrifices that becomes the means for further undermining of rights and freedoms. I was listening to a recent public speech about Merck’s criminal ‘Vioxx’ toxic headache pill that attracted billions of dollar losses via litigation, but then a fast-tracked development of a mandated (toxic) HPV vaccine bounce-back from predicted bankruptcy. The speech by RFK Jr, illuminates criminal organisations (Mafia) running behind a scientific and suited front and to a large degree supported and protected by public and institutional ‘health fears’ or conditioned ‘medical’ compliance. In the past in UK, most all of the people of the town of Leicester – refused to accept the… Read more »

Barovsky
Barovsky
Jan 18, 2020 9:24 AM
Reply to  Binra

I might add that the vast bulk of glyphosate production is done in China, over 80 million tonnes a year!

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jan 20, 2020 11:02 AM
Reply to  Binra

I find it rather sad that people still associate eugenics as simply ‘capitalism’. It is a derivative of unregulated capitalism

Capitalism? Derivative of unregulated capitalism? Does Marx even mention pre-hominid capitalism?

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jan 20, 2020 12:08 PM
Reply to  Binra

[Eugenics] is a derivative of unregulated capitalism…

From Kit Knightly’s piece on Putin’s recent reforms:

In the days of the Roman Empire, upon conquering a province the Romans would take children of members of the ruling class to back to Rome, to be fostered in Roman families and raised as Romans. Then, when they reached adulthood, the new Romanised Celts or Assyrians or Goths would be sent back to the land of their birth and rule as the province in Rome’s name, serving Rome’s interests.

Does that not look to you, Binra, as something like post-hominid, pre-capitalist “eugenics lite”? And what about the intentional, endless pre-capitalist incidents of war rape stretching back from feudalism to pre-history? Or, similarly, the repeated mass takings of female slaves from the lands of the defeated into the harems and other servitudes of the conquerors?

Binra
Binra
Jan 20, 2020 3:22 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

I don’t get your point Robbobobin. War and enslavement or destruction are on the record as the development of all means of war and of the ‘breaking and taming’ of the vanquished nation to conditions imposed by the victor. The complexity of modern times does not SEEM so barbarous but is operating much more by stealth of guile and deceit. Eugenics is the idea of ‘civilised and rational’ breeding control and killing for the improvement of the ‘stock’ as a direct follow on from Darwinian interpretation fused with the Upper class Malthusian desire to reduce the population of the poor rather than help them vis sanitation, education, nutrition etc. This changed its appearance after the dumping of total war guilt onto the German people for its ‘National Socialism’ and runs under Genetics, and a masking of psyoperative language that couches its agenda in terms opposite to its meaning – thus… Read more »

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jan 23, 2020 10:38 AM
Reply to  Binra

So what is your point? War, plunder and rape are part of our human psyche and history – and our current world into the future? No. Or, alternatively, not necessarily. My point is that war, plunder and rape are part of our human psyche and history and that, wherever you are, you start from where you are and where you are determines the possibilities and actions or resolutions available to you for the next step. In many matters, eugenics included, where we are after Darwin is not where we were before Darwin, so post Darwinian starting points for such matters, including “eugenics”–a word coined by Francis Galton in the new age of Scientific Everything–has earlier names, understandings and methods of realizing what is the same basic concept, as Wikipedia itthelf noteth: Eugenics (/juːˈdʒɛnɪks/; from Greek εὐγενής eugenes ‘well-born’ from εὖ eu, ‘good, well’ and γένος genos, ‘race, stock, kin’) is… Read more »

binra
binra
Jan 23, 2020 12:21 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Robbobbobin, Thankyou for your post. My general gist is to illuminate the human psyche of a split mind rather than embody it as unconsciously inherited and acquired identity. A casting of identity asserted and defended in terms of being set apart, threatened by and defended against ‘other’. That breeding can be contrived to result in various objectives is simply obvious in the animal and vegetable realm, over which seed or stockmen can select. The transfer of this to humans is the intent of some humans to impose upon others. However, coercion – as noted in your post – breeds reaction, and so the realm of guile and deceit is engaged to engineer and frame the conditions such as to degrade the ‘unworthy human stock’ of their ability to question the frame in which they are cast, as well as of their ability to procreate, and to survive outside of controlled… Read more »

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jan 25, 2020 12:07 AM
Reply to  binra

A current meme* being fed the masses is of humans as a cancer or virus on the (Holy Victim of a) planet. (Incidentally I l looked for theDuke of Edinburgh’s post hospital remark on wanting to come back as a deadly virus and wipe out the (presumably selective) population and find it has been deleted from the ‘record’ and reframed as an internet myth – though I saw it on tv at the time on on youtube since). In Fleur Cowles‘ https://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/1996/10/fleur-cowles199610 People as Animals (ISBN 9780688061500; UK: Robin Clark Ltd, 1986; US: Morrow, 1987) “Over one hundred world-famous celebrities respond to the author’s question, ‘What would you choose to be if you could be reincarnated as an animal?'” HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh writes in the Foreword: “I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in… Read more »

binra
binra
Jan 25, 2020 11:16 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Yes – but in the capability and in such instance of the erasure or editing of Internet history, ‘ideas’ can be propagated and purposed to be whatever the power to do so and assert and defend, say is so. IE: When searching for the video clip, I found internet traces and analysis of the ‘debunking’ of the Duke of Edinburgh ever having said something very similar to “if there is life after death I would come back as a deadly virus and solve the overpopulation problem”. At the time I simply registered him as propagating the belief in an ‘overpopulation’ of the unworthy – for his attitude was not at all one of opening communication within and among populations – but rather of culling them – and sowing the mindset of beliefs that serve a willingness to expect and align under such ideas – by thinking and saying them. And… Read more »

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Feb 2, 2020 5:00 AM
Reply to  binra

When searching for the video clip, I found internet traces and analysis of the ‘debunking’ of the Duke of Edinburgh ever having said something very similar to “if there is life after death I would come back as a deadly virus and solve the overpopulation problem”.

Debunkers debunk. That’s what they do. Validity is not their concern. I, too, saw it on tv; whether or not (any of) that found its way onto YouTube or not, I don’t know. It doesn’t seem like something they’d delete for political or crowd control purposes (at least not yet).

At the time I simply registered him as propagating the belief in an ‘overpopulation’ of the unworthy – for his attitude was not at all one of opening communication within and among populations – but rather of culling them…

Binra
Binra
Feb 2, 2020 7:02 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

I saw it on tv and on youtube but a reasonable attempt to re-find it (for a reference link in a post) drew a blank and web searching found many references of either debunking or regarding it as an internet myth. So that was a direct and immediate recognition of the internet being used to airbrush something from my ordinary personal experience.

I read (in a Tesla biography) that J P Morgan had a grotesque nose and was able to ensure published photos of him would be retouched.

Disinformation is an ongoing practice to socially engineering a most unsocial agenda. I do not spend any energy in dwelling on it. But if you find the video of him saying he’d like to come back as a virus and sort out the ‘population problem’, I be grateful for a link.

Gall
Gall
Jan 17, 2020 11:35 PM

I think it’s brilliant that the MIC sell what was originally a weapon used to defoliate the Vietnamese jungles killing their own troops, combatants and any civilians who happened to get in the way and market it as a herbicide actually it should more correctly called a genocide but who cares?

This is what they did with fluoride after it was used to process Uranium of course and Nutrisweet which just happened to be a toxic nerve agent that they had lying around in their arsenal. Hey but at least its low cal and fat free and we all know that’s what really counts!

All the above are carcinogenic yet not a word about this from the American (can’t find a cure or more accurately prevent a cure for) Cancer Society.

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Jan 18, 2020 9:07 AM
Reply to  Gall

Cancer; when the immune system fails to mop up the cancer cells that all animal bodies constantly produce.

Binra
Binra
Jan 19, 2020 1:47 PM

Are you aware of the role of GcMAF in this process? – and that nagalese ‘turns off the body’s synthesis of it? There is a story of dead alt health doctors associated with that. Lynn Thyer recently extradited to France – on hunger strike for discovering how to synthesise GcMAF in the lab. Moves to extradite David Noakes for supplying it to people suffering cancer who have greatly benefited – alive regardless of prognosis. As far as I know NO MSM has touched this story but UK column has some of it. https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/gcmaf-and-persecution-david-noakes-lyn-thyer-immuno-biotech And ANH have given coverage https://www.anhinternational.org/search?s=GcMAF&o=2&d=0&t=0 (While the last item indicates Thyer’s release was TO happen, it is not confirmed that it did or will be allowed to happen). There are innumerable other accounts of the effective elimination and thuggish suppression of treatments that actually work or are much more efficacious and less toxic than chemo, radiation… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 21, 2020 7:29 AM
Reply to  Binra

The corruption of the capitalist medical-industrial complex and its suppression of various, non-patented, treatments for cancer, bears no relationship whatsoever to climate destabilisation science.

Gall
Gall
Jan 19, 2020 8:03 PM

From what I understand cancer is not an immunological problem but caused by cellular mutation due radiation and other extreme stress factors in the environment that may have a similar effect such as highly toxin substances such as Dioxin AKA Agent Orange or Glyphosates as used in Roundup and other pesticides and herbicides.

See the book the Effects of Nuclear Weapons:

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects2.shtml

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jan 20, 2020 11:25 AM
Reply to  Gall

I think it’s brilliant that the MIC sell what was originally a weapon used to defoliate the Vietnamese jungles killing their own troops, combatants and any civilians who happened to get in the way and market it as a herbicide actually it should more correctly called a genocide but who cares?

Are you suggesting there is some significant chemical relationship between “Agent Orange” and substances such as neonicotinoids and glyphosate?

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Jan 17, 2020 11:06 PM

We are made of the Earth.
We exploit it at our peril.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc
Jan 17, 2020 10:31 PM

I think it highly probable that glyphosate is the biocidal weapon that the elites will use to cause a mass culling of the ‘useless eaters’ they hate and fear. Its widespread pathways of toxicity and damage are destroying the soils (pedocide)the beneficial bacteria and other micro-organisms in animal guts and various plants, while creating glyphosate resistant super-weeds. Its use, following the cancer logic of capitalism, only grows and grows, despite the clear, but easily suppressed knowledge of its toxicity. As ever the capitalist will do ANYTHING, even destroy the basis of Life on Earth, for filthy lucre.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Jan 17, 2020 7:19 PM

i’ve compiled an (0ngoing) list on this topic:

https://williambowles.info/poisoning-the-planet-pesticides-and-capitalism/

bevin
bevin
Jan 17, 2020 10:44 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Excellent summary at your site. thanks.

deda Stanko
deda Stanko
Jan 18, 2020 9:51 AM
Reply to  Barovsky

Thanks for your site link Barovsky. I’ve emailed it to a couple of allotment friends.