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An end to capitalism. An end to cash!

If we want to develop a more equal society, we must make radical changes to our political system, urges Susan Rosenthal in her latest book Rebel Minds.

Review by Tony Sutton

MAKING A DIFFERENCE: Members of the United Teachers of Los Angeles union rally to celebrate the end of their 2019 strike, in which they protested against low pay, large class sizes, inadequate support staffs of nurses and librarians, and the proliferation of charter schools.

The UK working class lost much sympathy after its stunning rejection of Jeremy Corbyn’s socialist manifesto in last December’s general election. That they chose to be influenced by a three-word slogan – Get Brexit Done – from a Tory party that had savaged them with a programme of vicious austerity over the past nine years was an indication of both a lack of political awareness and the crushing power of unrelenting right-wing media propaganda.

Similarly, the continuing support for Donald Trump, who was propelled to the US presidency by another vacuous slogan – Make America Great Again – hardly invites affinity for the working class in shattered US heartland states. In more enlightened times, those voters would have chased Trump and his cronies out of town; but it seems certain they will re-elect the orange oaf later this year.

Despite the working class’s flair for electoral self-flagellation, Susan Rosenthal, the Canadian author of Rebel Minds: Class War, Suffering and the urgent Need for Socialism, is firmly on their side.

A retired physician and avowed socialist, she opens Rebel Minds with the uncontestable assertion that “People all over the world want the same things: effective shelter, nutritious food, clean water, sanitation, and access to information”, along with societal needs, especially “to know that others will support us in times of need.”

“Capitalism”, she declares, “delivers the opposite: deprivation, disrespect, distrust, disconnection, discrimination, meaningless work, social insecurity, pain, disease, premature death, and fear for the future”.

As an alternative to the present economic system that, she says, is rigged against ordinary people, Rebel Minds offers a ‘Marxist method of analysis’, forged in the belief that working-class people could run the world much better than billionaire rulers, who “fear Marxism because it exposes them as a class who are leading humanity to extinction …”

If the system is so obviously flawed, then how does capitalism continue to get away with such shameless, self-centred behaviour? That’s the question that Rosenthal confronts in the early sections of Rebel Minds, where she analyses the physical and mental torment created by ever-increasing demands of profit-hungry bosses on workers who have become numbed by mindless and meaningless, drudgery in jobs that barely pay their bills.

This situation is aggravated when whole communities are ravaged by avaricious corporations that establish profitable industries, “destroy the environment in the process, then relocate to more profitable areas, abandoning entire regions to rot”.

Rosenthal offers Detroit, former heart of the US auto industry, and the US Rust Belt as examples of capitalist contempt for workers, while reminding us that every Western society has its own horror stories of the distress created when “good jobs and the dignity of work have been replaced by suffering, hopelessness and despair … the belief that people in power don’t care about them or their communities”.

The pain created by this devastation, she says, is one of the main causes of the trail of opioid addiction that has added even more misery and despair to the hardest-hit regions.

“Some will object to my blaming the capitalist class for human suffering”, says Rosenthal, “I say that they control society, so they are responsible for what happens. We are responsible for allowing them to keep us down and for liberating ourselves from their rule.”

Readers will be forgiven for wondering if anything but another major financial catastrophe can slow down the growth of a pernicious system that creates fantastic riches for the few while increasing poverty and despair for the rest of us.

Can the union movement revive sufficiently to even the odds around the bargaining table? I’m not so sure, given the response of many of the workers I meet in my local pub and coffee shop.

I’m a strong believer in the bargaining power of union solidarity, but many of them are blinded by the arse-about-face notion – encouraged by the tabloid media – that unionised workers are greedy because they are better paid and have greater job security than their non-unionised neighbours!

When I suggest that, instead of moaning, they should join a union that will fight for them, the discussion tends to end in heated words revolving around ‘Russia,’ ‘socialism’ and ‘commie bastard’…

Rosenthal is also a staunch union supporter, although not without reservations. She’s wary of their infiltration by a ‘manager class’ of leaders who are often more comfortable in the executive suite than the shopfloor.

However, to cement the case for union solidarity, she quotes from a report from the Economic Policy Institute that every worker should read before their first day on the job, “Compared with non-union workers, the average union worker in America enjoys 28 percent higher wages and is more likely to have medical insurance, paid leave, a pension, and other benefits”.

The second section of Rebel Minds is a harsh indictment of the role of psychiatry and the concept of mental illness – the theme of much of Rosenthal’s previous writing – which she says,

is unique to capitalism and . . . hides the role of the capitalist class in creating mass suffering.”

She illustrates practitioners’ inability to correctly diagnose ‘mental illness’ and ‘psychosis’ by recounting an experiment undertaken by Stanford University professor David Rosenhan who “sent eight volunteers to eight different psychiatric hospitals across the US.

All posed as people concerned about their ‘mental health’ because they heard noises and were admitted to hospital on that basis.

Immediately after being admitted, all eight volunteers reported that the voices had stopped, they had no other symptoms, and they felt fine. Nevertheless, seven were labelled with ‘schizophrenia’ and one was labelled with ‘manic depression’. They were kept in hospital for up to 52 days. After being released, none were considered cured; all were labelled ‘in remission’. During their time in hospital, no staff member discovered that any of the phony patients was an imposter, although some of the other patients figured it out.”

After this and a follow-up experiment, Rosenhan suggested that “we refrain from sending the distressed to in-sane places’ and focus instead on helping people to solve their problems.”

Rebel Minds also details the historical misery created by capitalism, including colonialism, racism, eugenics and genocide:

“Conquerors take what they want by force. Their moral justification is the racist belief that ‘savage barbarians’ are no more entitled to the land, or compensation for its loss, than animals in the forest … Since the beginning of colonisation, every capitalist regime has practiced racism, eugenics and genocide against populations who stand in the way of capital accumulation.”

That exploitation continues: we are subjected to an almost daily dose of TV news coverage of protests and demonstration around the world.

Much of that output, however, is stage-managed to emphasise the ‘battle for democracy’ in countries such as Hong Kong and Venezuela, while downplaying the fight against the sins of capitalism, evidenced by the near-total TV blackout of a year of increasingly violent government reaction to protests against the French state’s austerity measures.

What should the working class – and that’s what we all are, despite our cynical, corporate rebranding as ‘middle class’ – do to counter “the complex web of social institutions that keep the majority ‘in their place?”

After telling us that moral outrage, personal change and reformation of the present system won’t help us escape the societal ‘deep shit’ that looms, Rosenthal asks,

Will we stand by while the ruling class destroy everything that humanity has accomplished over millennia, or will we defend our right to a viable future? Undoubtedly, the majority choose to survive. The question is how?”

So far, I agree with most of Rosenthal’s analysis, but I discover I’m what she terms a ‘Pessimist’ when I dig into the final chapters of Rebel Minds, where she reveals how we can conquer the capitalist ogre, offering a disappointing and, I’m sure, thoroughly unworkable, solution to the problems confronting the 21st-century labour force.

Rosenthal states, “A successful socialist revolution depends on millions of workers rising together to remove the capitalists from power as quickly and painlessly as possible”, pointing out that, “A supremely organised working class could take power without using violence; workers would simply escort their supervisors, managers and bosses out the door. The violence comes when capitalists refuse to accept majority rule and try to regroup, rearm, and attack. We must anticipate and defend against this inevitability. The stronger the workers’ State, the less force will be required.

Then, a few pages later, we’re told, “Transitioning to a communist, needs-based economy will take time. In the meantime, people will need to be paid for their work. This will not be a problem”, she says, as the wealth accumulated under capitalism belongs to the working class, so workers “have the right to use it to launch the new economy…

When enough is being produced to meet everyone’s basic needs, money can be removed from the equation….

Imagine not having to worry about money: making it, losing it, keeping track of it, spending it, saving it, and never having enough! Making things free makes people free.”

There’s more along those lines as Rosenthal forecasts the eviction of greedy, rapacious capitalists, followed by the dawn of a brave new world, based on a revolutionary format that failed in 1917.

Yes, much has to be done to fix our unequal economies, but the solutions won’t be found in Rebel Minds. While Rosenthal adds to the debate about the in-justices of capitalism, her dream of a Marxist revolution and cash-free society will find little support in the pubs and coffee shops frequented by the workers she seeks to inspire.

They don’t want a revolution, just a fairer share of the contents of the corporate piggy bank.

REBEL MINDS: Class War, Suffering and the Urgent Need for Socialism, by Susan Rosenthal, is published by ReMarx Publishing and is available for purchase in the UK and Canada.
Tony Sutton is the editor of ColdType. Contact him at [email protected].

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Thom
Thom
Jan 19, 2020 6:57 PM

The working-class-voting-Tory-because-they-want-Brexit is itself a mainstream media narrative and should as such immediately be handled with caution. Personally I find the idea that so many northern voters a) switched sides over a relatively subtle change in Brexit position by Labour between 2017 and 2019; b) signed up to vote by post; and c) voted for a smirking, shallow upper class git like Johnson, extremely suspect.
The real flagellation of the working classes is quite likely worse than what the author is suggesting – in that not only are they suffering a government they did not actually vote for but they will be blamed for it too, while our rulers tell the public and the world they have a ‘mandate’.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Jan 19, 2020 6:49 PM

Financial Engineering has taken the wealth extracting class down for the count since the ushering in of the Great Financial Crisis March 10th 08 when Bear Stearns was murdered in the overnight REPO market which is dark to everyone except the Securities & Exchange Commission-SEC. Rosenthal, S. has some very good outdated points but there is no need for anymore Marxist critique since the Financial Implosion of 08 empirically decided the fate of the wealth extracting corporatists in the pyramid of financial control worldwide. Right now Berkshire Hathaway & Warren Buffett have pulled mega-billions of cash off the table for the NYSE given that they are waiting for nosebleed elevations of stocks to mean revert back to a more stable level playing field of valuations industry wide. Since 08 any & all Mathematicians worth their salt have known that it is only a matter of time before the entire edifice… Read more »

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jan 20, 2020 1:35 AM

Quite correct MOU, you are clearly privy to inside information about the 2008 disaster, especially Bear Sterns which negates any return to the outdated solutions of Red Russia, Red China or the extremes of the Khmer Rouge. It seems that the colour is constant and may reflect the origin of the emotions that Ms Rosenthal implies as even her name’s first syllable complements such a notion.

And I agree that most of the ‘wealth’ horded by the 1% is but virtual and likely to disappear in a puff of hot air once the next crisis materialises when the workers will be yet again left jobless. negating the need for a union of any sort.

So I guess you are in PMs and land etc.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Jan 20, 2020 2:49 AM
Reply to  austrian peter

No PMs or Real Estate/Land et cetera. I’m poorer than dirt with no assets aside from my brain & knowledge base in Finance/Macroeconomics. I am merely an Empiricist with a brain.

And yes I am privy to inside knowledge of what transpired but my stuff is proprietary and not for sale due to the cost being too expensive for the one per cent banksters & fraudsters.
Their collective greed & hubris is their undoing systemically. I have been analyzing the whole systemic crash since the day & hour it started.

It’s a Zero Sum end game.

MOU

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jan 20, 2020 6:14 AM

Hey RW, it’s me – did you read my book? Good to hear from you and yes I do agree – it’s a zero sum game and greed & hubris are spectacular to see; surely it can’t be long now with Repo going mad and ZH saying that it could be hedge funds in trouble?

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Jan 20, 2020 5:32 PM
Reply to  austrian peter

I started reading it and then got bored. I’ll continue reading it soon, don’t fret.
To be perfectly honest it is tiring to read stuff that I already know but I’ll read it to assist you as a Financial Analyst and Social Scientist of sorts.

And yes, the Hedge Funds are parasitically positioned for REPO overnight & term facility. This means that no stats will be forthcoming from the unethical & ever incompetent Fed Reserve Chair & Board.

MOU

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jan 20, 2020 10:21 PM

Thanks a million MOU, I really appreciate your help and agree it is a tedious effort to read stuff with which you are familiar. I proof read for some colleagues occasionally so understand what you mean. As long as you feel that I haven’t got things obviously wrong and made embarrassing booboos.

Good to know ZH is on the case – standing by for possible fireworks. Cheers Peter.

Gall
Gall
Jan 20, 2020 7:13 AM

Bravo MOU! One of your best comments so far! I totally agree with your assessment. The Ponzi scheme is collapsing before our eyes.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Jan 20, 2020 6:38 PM
Reply to  Gall

Thanks, Gall.

MOU

Gall
Gall
Jan 20, 2020 8:39 PM

😎👍

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Jan 20, 2020 10:05 PM
Reply to  Gall

Weird how the upvote thingy does not work here??????????

MOU

Gall
Gall
Jan 20, 2020 11:04 PM

It’s flakey. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn’t depending on some AI’s mood. You know Artificial Idiocy 😉

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:17 PM

Possibly OT but I caught the latest edition of New Statesman and its cover story “Why The Left Keeps Losing” by trendy “nihilist” pop philosopher John Gray. I had a scan and it seemed the usual anti-progressive rant (“Stop believing you can make things better! Humans are just plain evil! Now pass me another claret!”). And then I lighted on a line about how Labour “must root out anti-Semitism and not just apologize for it”. Thus the bullshit witch hunt increases another notch.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 22, 2020 7:29 AM
Reply to  George Mc

It will NEVER end, now. Being a totally supine, arse-kissing, Sabbat Goy will be the supreme requirement for any public life. The merest hint, real or fabricated, of any lack of TOTAL servility will end careers. It is the most bizarre and monstrous imposition by one faction of one tiny community in a mass society that I can think of. The New Statesman has been peddling this phony ‘antisemitism’ cant for years.

secondElijah
secondElijah
Jan 19, 2020 1:34 PM

My previous comment disappeared?

norman wisdom
norman wisdom
Jan 19, 2020 3:47 PM
Reply to  secondElijah

anti semitism is hate speech
even if it is fact that khazar ashkanazim are not semite.
you are new hitler
your words are logged tagged then erased
succumb why not pause refresh and enjoy your slavery

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 2:55 AM

Admin, first paragraph ‘relenting ‘ – reads incorrectly. Should that be either UNRELENTING or RELENTLESS ? ——- As to the content – a failure to mention slavery as the founding principle of the USA, written into their pathetic constitution with the great lie ‘all man created equal..except SLAVES’. Unionism is not marxist – the elites are nothing but ‘unions’ for their own interests. Masonic organisations were all about that. Germany and other socialist mixed economies are highly unionised. The strongest unions in the UK were broken but the ‘controlled’ ones have not been touched. The Russians and Chinese are not Marxist are they? Putins speech published here just a few days ago shows the rewards of capitalism and socialism go hand in hand. The Chinese with a population greater than the combined developed western nations, even more so. Forget the bullshit left – right divide and control of that narrative.… Read more »

Tony Sutton
Tony Sutton
Jan 19, 2020 7:10 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Yes, it should read ‘unrelenting right-wing media propaganda’ at the end of the first paragraph. Thanks for spotting my error. Tony Sutton

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 20, 2020 12:23 PM
Reply to  Tony Sutton

You are welcome Mr Sutton.

I was hoping for at least a short reply to my substantive points raised in response to your article.
Though am not demanding any and will be only mildly disappointed if you do not.

norman wisdom
norman wisdom
Jan 19, 2020 12:49 AM

rosenthal A
i would say
2 many irish shaping
society

this lady is a friend of barbera lerner spector
another khazar paddy
what is it with all these micks in publishing
already

i heard that marx came from a long line of rabbi and was related by birth to the rothschild regime
shirley the kant bee truths

Binra
Binra
Jan 18, 2020 11:41 PM

Many here see that capitalism was only used as a means to power and the the consolidation of that power will be replace capitalism with a fusion of energy and information or narrative control – that people will be willing to invite into their wills by framing it as getting rid of the bad, the failed, the evil and the unworthy. As this is the primary resonance of a negatively (fear) framed mind-split of dissociation from its own intent to eradicate the hated and feared – it operates as ‘one mind to rule them all – because it is one mind in terms of purpose. I read a snip yesterday on the old Guild system that was part of British governance before it broke down to disproportionate wealth and power of some guilds over others – I know very little about it. We are so conditioned to a corporately controlled… Read more »

vwbeetle
vwbeetle
Jan 18, 2020 9:46 PM

I actually agree with the first sentence. I have working class family in England, who I like a lot, who voted against Corbyn because he was a “Red Fred” or anti-semite. They did not have the nouse to realise they were being lied to by the billionaire media. When they eventually realise they are slowly being screwed by the Tories they will get no sympathy from me. I don’t think I am a socialist. I don’t mind the principle of free enterprise and I can admire entrepeneurs who come up with ideas and make money from them. All I want from the rich is for them to pay their workers a decent wage, give them secure working conditions, respect the environment and pay proper taxes. In short, don’t be greedy bastards. Unfortunately, too many of them ARE greedy bastards. The US billionaire Nick Hanauer is correct. The billionaire class needs… Read more »

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Jan 18, 2020 8:03 PM

(“The second section of Rebel Minds is a harsh indictment of the role of psychiatry and the concept of mental illness”). Thank you – I will look for this book.

– if you are interested in the dark underbelly of the – “role of psychiatry” – in the West, I can heartily recommend Stephen Kinzer’s latest book: “Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control.” It is a well documented non-sensational examination of just how deep the “banality of evil” runs not only within the our uber-corrupt institutions of State, but also within supportive elite “white collar” professions such as psychiatry.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jan 18, 2020 6:25 PM

“The UK working class lost much sympathy after its stunning rejection of Jeremy Corbyn’s socialist manifesto in last December’s general election.”

Who is this arrogant, ignorant tosser, who wrote this shite?

“lost much sympathy”????

FFS.

Tony

norman wisdom
norman wisdom
Jan 19, 2020 12:50 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

who
just another cohen

TWHM
TWHM
Jan 19, 2020 11:30 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/01/13/the-center-blows-itself-up-care-and-spite-in-the-brexit-election/?fbclid=IwAR1iltU9ldfpV_cv6ws2_b900UcOnHPcQmjslO780c7SuXYb15r8OLwRmbM

The Center Blows Itself Up: Care and Spite in the ‘Brexit Election’
David Graeber

‘…Politics, in wealthy countries, is increasingly becoming a war between the generations. While the support for smaller parties in the UK (Liberal Democrats, Greens, the Scottish National Party, even Brexit) is constant across ages, the split between Labour and Conservative is almost entirely based on age cohort:

Then, an excellent graph of the YouGov poll done post-election, of who voted what, by age, leaving Graeber’s conclusion obvious;

“….if only Britons over the age of sixty-five were allowed to vote, the Labour Party would be all but wiped out, whereas if only Britons under twenty-five were allowed to vote, there would simply be no Tory MPs whatsoever.”

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Jan 18, 2020 6:09 PM

I think that part of the reason is because the younger voters’ only experience of Labour is the Thatcherite New Labour created by Blair, with which they are profoundly disenchantened. The older voters who have experienced true Labour likely voted for Labour, realizing that Jeremy Corbyn actually represents true Labour and not New Labour.

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 5:40 PM

The global establishment like to use the ‘Hegelian Dialectic’ (along with divide-and-rule, plausible deniability, secrecy & deception, propaganda, bribed & blackmail-able ‘representatives’, debt, etc) to gain their many goals and their ultimate hegemonic agenda:

Thesis, antithesis, synthesis

Problem, reaction, solution

E.g:

Global establishment creates rampant destructive capitalism/corporatism which subsequently causes chaos in so many ways to people so that they ask for alternatives which leads the global establishment to provide the answer of a technocratic centralised world government of peace and environmentalism.

* The outcome here produces the initial ultimate desire of the global establishment from the outset.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Jan 19, 2020 7:03 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

The Global Establishment has no growth aside from environmentalism which is a United Nations rollout helmed by Mark Carney & his corporatist fronted United Nations Environmentalism Bank that is currently stocked with $23 trillion USD [estimated-BofE]
and an industrial agenda to replace fossil fueled so-called ‘free markets’ with heavily regulated environmentally designed & carbon regulated commerce going forward.

USA ‘Capitalism’ is now known worldwide to be a fraudulent Ponzi that is imploding before our very eyes in 2020. Without synthetic growth models like ‘climate change environmentalism’ we would have nothing but Orange oaf Smoot-Hawley Act trade wars and petulant children like Orange Jesus pontificating into the twittersphere for validation in a world of invective, one-upmanship, & social strife.

USA is empirical toast just as the EU is too.

MOU

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 4:50 PM

Is the ultimate goal of the global, supremacist establishment an incremental transition from our current system — corporatocracy — to ultimately a technocratic, centralised world government?

In my experience, researching deeply and widely helps you come closer to the answer. One of many good hubs to start the research is here:

https://www.technocracy.news/

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 6:29 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 6:45 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Fun fact: Rik Mayall’s penultimate film acting-appearance (before he, sadly, passed away) was in a film called ‘One By One’..

The plot of one By One is about a woman (and her husband and her friends) going through the process of learning about the one world global governance/control system/depopulation agenda and the emotions and experiences she goes through (including cognitive dissonance). This film has been largely hidden away from the public’s eyes for such a high-profile actor e.gs it’s not clickable on wiki; no mainstream reviews; imdb does not list it unless you click on Mayall’s filmography; can (could?) only be bought direct from producer on eBay, etc which is interesting. If you can somehow manage to get hold of it, it is worth watching just for the subject matter.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2332735/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3

bevin
bevin
Jan 18, 2020 4:01 PM

“The UK working class lost much sympathy after its stunning rejection of Jeremy Corbyn’s socialist manifesto in last December’s general election. That they chose to be influenced by a three-word slogan – Get Brexit Done – from a Tory party that had savaged them with a programme of vicious austerity over the past nine years was an indication of both a lack of political awareness and the crushing power of relenting right-wing media propaganda…” “Similarly, the continuing support for Donald Trump, who was propelled to the US presidency by another vacuous slogan – Make America Great Again – hardly invites affinity for the working class in shattered US heartland states. In more enlightened times, those voters would have chased Trump and his cronies out of town; but it seems certain they will re-elect the orange oaf later this year. Forgive Tony Sutton: he’s from Toronto. Both the statements regarding Brexit… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 4:35 PM
Reply to  bevin

“Those who don’t think that elections are important can’t have noticed the extraordinary, unprecedented lengths to which The Establishment from the media to the General Staff, went to fend off the rather gentle and pacific challenge personified in Jeremy Corbyn.” Corbyn was never the problem. It was the popularity of Corbyn that was the problem i.e. the fact that his rise indicated that a substantial number of the population believed there could be an alternative to neoliberalism. Of course vast numbers of this population probably did think that anyway – but they did not have a chance to be represented in parliament. The old notion of compromise between classes had been gradually eradicated from the official political spectrum. The emergence of Corbyn as an actual representative of this old notion raised the spectre of a re-introduction of this old notion into official circles and sent the neoliberal order into apoplexy.… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 5:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And it was all so well played by the Blairites with the Remain gambit so succesful in sabotaging Corbyn. Has there ever been another case of a party with an inner deliberate self-destruct faction?

bevin
bevin
Jan 18, 2020 6:13 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Labour in 1931? Gaitskell in 1960?And the SDP in 1983?
Desmond Donnelly? Woodrow Wyatt? Kinnock at the US Embassy?
There is always a squad of determined saboteurs in the PLP-they used to be sponsored by the worst of the unions but there are plenty of other sponsors. And half the party bureaucracy spend their lives looking for people to expel and organisations to proscribe.
The only novelty about Corbyn was that by just squeezing onto the list of nominees in 2015 he became to one who got away, the escapologist who made it out-Houdini like- of the sealed tomb in which Mandelson, Blair and their gang of accomplices sought to confine socialists or even honest men.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The Blairites are Thatcherites – they are a infestation.

Had the SNP and LibDems not given into the goading of a xmas poll – we would by now be seeing the reselection process of all candidates completed.

As it is – now is the time to complete that process and implement an automatic by-election when the remaining tats jump ship to try and split the vote with the next chickenCoup or SDP3,4 ..,

All of Maggies greatest bastard achievements – OUT OUT OUT.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:09 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Thatcher herself called Blair her greatest acheivement. Perhaps he was her bastard son? Perhaps he actually IS her? Perhaps Icke is right and these are interdimensional reptiles reproducing by fission?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 22, 2020 7:37 AM
Reply to  George Mc

If you read ‘Indispensable Enemies’ by Walter Karp you will see that the Republicans and Democrats have often ‘run dead’ and allowed the other wing of the Bosses’ Party to win, if their party had been taken over by some popular insurgency. Hence the cheating of Sanders out of his victory in the primaries in 2016, and the frantic efforts of the Deep State to derail then dethrone Trump.

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 3:08 PM

Shouldn’t we shun most of the systems that are forced on us in the mainstream, along with the notion that there is no alternative (TINA) to these systems? It is now starkly obvious that we have a group of power-mad, supremacist control-freaks who want to completely control the whole planet and all humans; and use the bad system: the representative/parliamentary ‘democracy’ system that purposely uses corrupted people — bribed careerists and/or blackmail-able people groomed and placed on the political conveyor belt — to so-called ‘represent’ us when in fact these corrupted people are used to further the global establishment’s world hegemony? The solution is to set up within all our countries small local ‘cantons’ with participatory direct democracy where individuals have a say on everything: local, national and even international issues? Countries to become like the Swiss Confederacy (the two cantons, Glarus and Appenzell Innerrhoden still have genuine direct democracy)… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 3:25 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

P.S.

For participatory direct democracy to work it must also go hand-in-hand with:

— a genuinely free, open, unbiased press/media/internet/moderation-system/tv/radi/publishing(including science) etc

— a proper education system that gives all people (not only children) a life long education especially the skills to think properly (e.g. critical thinking) and not just a system that puts most of its emphasis on rote-learning and memorisation of e.g biased so-called ‘facts’ that the estab wants us to learn in exams aka the current education system.

Yr Hen Gof
Yr Hen Gof
Jan 18, 2020 8:01 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Agreed, I’m sure it’s no accident that critical thinking has no place in our curriculum.

ThereisaGod
ThereisaGod
Jan 18, 2020 2:23 PM

Rosenthal looks like an elitist posing as a commoner, surprise, surprise ….. No cash!? Perfect for total State control of an enslaved population. Why should anyone trust this virtue-signalling bleating. To be successful Satan must imitate God. Putting a society at the total mercy of its banking classes will bring the stomp of Orwellian jackboots. Maybe they’re already here.
Why are you publishing this Culturally Marxist rubbish?

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 3:35 PM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

“Culturally Marxist”? It’s actually Marxist – which “Cultural Marxism” isn’t, the latter being yet another scarey bogey invented by the Right. But I don’t suppose you’d hear much about these matters above the bellowing psalm singing down your end.

ThereisaGod
ThereisaGod
Jan 18, 2020 4:57 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Hee hee. … “bellowing psalm singing …” like it, George. … CM is a different form of Marxism to economic M, but Marxism (i.e. fake equalitarianism invented by supremacists) all the same. I’ve heard quite a lot about it actually, starting with the following article in 2009 (preserved on ‘Whale’): http://www.whale.to/c/frankfurt_school1.html Then there is E. Michael Jones: Every kind of Marxism seeks to mislead and capture ‘Logos’ in service of the familiar top-down hierarchical tyranny. ‘Logos’ is the moral sense and inborn instinct for what some of us would call ‘the Divine Intention’ that resides in every human heart. Millions get duped. It is pretty clear that Marx himself recognised this, going by some of his poetry (please do read this): Forty poems and the verse-drama “Oulanem” written by Marx have been found to date. In his little ditty “Der Spiel-mann” (“The Fiddler”), he admitted: That art God neither wants… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 5:34 PM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

Arguing with Marx’s poetry? Way to go, God-boy! Who needs to argue about the actual world and actual people and actual actuality? Who need to bother about all the REAL works of Marx? Hey let’s talk about poetic turns of phrase and vacuities about inner intentions and mysterious beings up there somewhere. Whateva!

ThereisaGod
ThereisaGod
Jan 18, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Some of us ponder depths of meaning because we understand that if we don’t we’ll end up being tyrannised by shallow, self-seeking arseh*les like you, who understand nothing but their own ill-judged fantasies and their own rage. Marxism came to the fruition intended by its creators in the Soviet Union. Idealistic followers were the useful idiots to those who busied themselves slaughtering not only opponents but also those educated middle-class types who posed a potential threat to their system. In my own personal life I couldn’t help but notice that Communists were almost inevitably the last persons to put their hands in their pockets and buy their round, which made me suspect that at the subconscious level these people were more interested in displacing the rich than looking out for the well-being of everybody else. On a theoretical note, any quality of the analysis is mere distraction if the solution… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 9:13 PM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

There is no communism. There are plutocrats. They are not communists. They are capitalists. They became plutocrats through capitalism. They will become fatter plutocrats through capitalism. Communism is their enemy. And what better way of protecting themselves than to spread the lie that they need communism?

ThereisaGod
ThereisaGod
Jan 18, 2020 9:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Watch Norman Dodd being interviewed after he was instructed by the US Congress to lead an investigation into the ‘Financial Foundations’ in 1953 (Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller etc ..). He is an old man being interviewed years later but his findings were devastating to him and other members of his team … and never reported in the mainstream, nor properly published by US Congress … he exposed the long game that the international finance class were playing but no one got told about it. Today we see it playing out in front of our very eyes. Corporations have taken over the building of mass housing units for local Councils all over the UK, Europe and America [ isn’t this called ‘Fascism’?]. The elected Councils (hence, voters) are not involved. On the larger scale just about ALL countries are adopting the precepts of “Agenda 2030” (stated aims, no ownership of property or… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 9:59 AM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

Yes I’ve encountered this G. Edward Griffin stuff before – via Taylor Caldwell’s “The Middle Class Must Not Fail Or All Is Lost”. This is the stuff that claims that Marx and communism are part of the plot of the bankers to enslave the planet. There is a transcript of the Griffin piece here. It seems to differ slightly from the spoken account: http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/dodd/interview.htm It is fascinating that this account is pleased to discuss the evils of communism but never mentions capitalism. (“Capitalism” is a gentleman who doesn’t want to hear his name mentioned” – Brecht) What lies at the heart of all this is a presupposition that the (unmentionable) capitalism we are living under – and which is clearly failing the vast majority and will continue to do so in increasingly horrific ways – is not “true capitalism”. It is apparently “crony capitalism” or whatever other term they want… Read more »

ThereisaGod
ThereisaGod
Jan 19, 2020 10:27 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I’m probably more anti-Capitalist than you are. The problem is that Communism is not a solution because it is just a different system run by the same rulers, globalist international bankers. i.e. not, at its core, a different system at all. We live in “democracies” wherein we “expend our energies fighting over issues of no importance”, as Montague Norman (Gov of Bank of England) said in 1924. This, he said, was the very purpose of the creation of the “party system”. The system (unchanged since 1325 B.C.) as described by Russian professors to the FSB (KGB) sounds about right. In my view the future is Voluntarian self-government by small communities created by agreement for a common purpose within which it is possible for everybody to be personally known by everybody else. Top-down hierarchy by remote authority is our problem. It is a system designed by criminals, thieves and fiends to… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:06 PM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

Yes you’re solution is very attractive – but there is the problem of how you’re going to achieve it. Admittedly this is a problem with every proposed solution. The advantage of what might be called “Marxism” or “Historical Materialism” is that, taking its starting point from Hegel, it acknowledges that history is a never ending process in which things change all the time and nothing can be reinstated. Marx did not hate capitalism – he acknowledged its astonishing spur to productivity but felt that it had not only outlived its usefulness but that it was now doing more harm than good. Admittedly it always did an astonishing amount of harm when you consider the cultures trashed, the millions of lives wasted etc. but the effects are all around us and deliver indisputable benefits. The main thing is that you cannot simply undo all this. The technological advances (brought about by… Read more »

ThereisaGod
ThereisaGod
Jan 19, 2020 3:42 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Maybe the new system installed by the Egyptian priesthood was much better than what existed before it. As you say, rule from above (capitalism or whatever) has delivered good things as well as bad. Yes … “challenging”, to put it mildly. I don’t imagine any such system-change can be enforced. It is more likely that there will be developments in our collective consciousness and understanding of reality that will make the creation of such a system inevitable. After all, humans are brilliant at proceeding intelligently from correct assumptions. Our problem is that the current system is led by liars who achieve their goals by deception. All management systems work on pretexts that are ‘good’ when viewed in isolation. However the deeper purpose of any management system that I have looked at carefully is to serve the interests of whoever is at the very top directing the system itself. Because of… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 8:00 PM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

I have no objection to Jesus personally. You can’t blame him for much that was done later supposedly in his name.

secondElijah
secondElijah
Jan 20, 2020 8:03 AM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

Great answer. See my website

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 22, 2020 7:41 AM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

1325 BCE? Why so specific?

ThereisaGod
ThereisaGod
Jan 22, 2020 2:00 PM

… death of Akhenaten/Moses
Lecture to KGB by Russian prof:

My own coverage of the issues:
Akhenaton/Moses

same talk (more or less as Alexeyevitch:

norman wisdom
norman wisdom
Jan 19, 2020 12:56 AM
Reply to  George Mc

capital ism
marx ism
trotsky ism
bolshev ism
rothschill ism
satan ism
zionism

all sides of the same beast system
all interconnected interbred interelated

init

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 22, 2020 7:39 AM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

The Cuckoo has landed!

secondElijah
secondElijah
Jan 19, 2020 1:26 PM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

Could not agree more. Who is down voting? They obviously cannot wait for prison planet and complete authoritarian control. They are already trying to ban cash in Oz so that it will all be captured in the banking system. Ideal for “negative rates” and “bail-ins”. The supposed excuse is to prevent “money laundering” but it did not prevent the banks here processing the proceeds from child porn and drugs. We need to combat the Anglo-Zionists AND the globo-Bolsheviks. They both want technocratic rule. See: http://www.biblaridion.info/blog

secondElijah
secondElijah
Jan 19, 2020 1:41 PM
Reply to  ThereisaGod

Well, could not agree more. They are trying to ban cash in Oz for “money laundering” yet the banks process drug money and child porn money. They want negative rates. They want bail-ins. They want prison planet and technocracy. The fact that you have five down votes demonstrates that something is seriously amiss. The Anglo-Zionists and the globo-bolsheviks both want technocratic rule. Whatever happens we are facing fascism of one type or the other. The UK has really gone down the tubes since I left. What a pity. Visit my blog and website.

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 2:16 PM

A cashless society is essential for centralisation, global technocracy and global governance. I cannot urge people strongly enough about the importance of researching the United Nations’ Agenda for Global Governance, Agenda21/2030/2050, the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs), the UN’s manifesto, etc. These are all part of an environmental Trojan horse. Read these UN documents along with the many different analyses of them. The conclusions many of us have come to after many years of study is that the aim of the UN agendas isn’t to improve/help/protect the environment in order to improve/help/protect the health and comfort of humans as is the official line, but an insidious ruse to incrementally control humans and insidious depopulation (as well as control of all resources: all the land, food, water, materials, etc). Don’t believe me (yet), well, I dare you to do extensive research especially beyond the mainstream using critical thinking and evidence-based techniques.… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 2:50 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

P.S.

Keeping in mind what I wrote above, it is interesting that the UN manifesto is almost a replica of the Communist manifesto – make of that what you will…

Capitalism and the UN’s covert communism are two sides of the same technocratic, globalist coin?

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 20, 2020 12:06 AM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

“We are in the midst of a silent war. They’re not going to fire a shot folks…….they’re going to cook you, and they’re going to do it using invisible radio-frequency emissions that you’re addicted to and in love with because your junk works, no matter where you go”.

The Fullerton Informer, on 5G

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 20, 2020 12:08 AM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

People don’t care. They don’t want to listen. I have been banging on about 9/11 for so long now, and people just don’t give a shit. They’re too fuckng stupid and self-absorbed. Instead they use it as an excuse to mock and ridicule and sit on their perch

secondElijah
secondElijah
Jan 20, 2020 7:03 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Agree. Visit my blog

Ramdan
Ramdan
Jan 18, 2020 1:57 PM

Why the people do not react? Why, instead, do they resort to a behavior that in fact supports that which they complaint? “Learned helplessness, in psychology, a mental state in which an organism forced to bear aversive stimuli, or stimuli that are painful or otherwise unpleasant, becomes unable or unwilling to avoid subsequent encounters with those stimuli, even if they are “escapable,” presumably because it has learned that it cannot control the situation. The theory of learned helplessness was conceptualized and developed by American psychologist Martin E.P. Seligman at the University of Pennsylvania in the late 1960s and ’70s. While conducting experimental research on classical conditioning, Seligman inadvertently discovered that dogs that had received unavoidable electric shocks failed to take action in subsequent situations—even those in which escape or avoidance was in fact possible—whereas dogs that had not received the unavoidable shocks immediately took action in subsequent situations. The experiment… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 8:13 AM
Reply to  Ramdan

Martin Seligman was one of the leading lights of the torture claque of psychologists who advised the US authorities on ‘ enhanced interrogation’ techniques after 9/11. It was his doody as a good Zionist, Israel being the leading experts on mass torture of Moslems, specifically forced nakedness, sexual humiliation, the use of dogs and stress positions etc.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jan 18, 2020 1:44 PM

The sooner this site removes the ridiculous assumption that an upper middle class champagne socialist is an appropriate mentor to the working class the better. I know a bit about doctors purporting to be socialists. My sister is one. She has never been a socialist, she is an old school fascist who believes that doctors should engage in MK-Ultra-style mind control, that absolute control of their underlings (they define underlings, despite their underlings needing to be stolen from every year to update the ignoramus’ total lack of knowledge about anything outside the control freak world of gassing people) is their right to take advantage of. It is absolutely imperative that upper middle class do-gooders are told to learn how to behave before they are allowed to pontificate. Stop claiming that self-serving avaricious power seekers are socialists. They are not. They are simply those who are narcissistically in need of a… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jan 18, 2020 1:12 PM

The stark choice we are facing is a dystopian, dickensian, feudal hell, with rampant death and disease, or a socialist system based on people first, based on humanity, and in harmony with the environment – and not on the bottom lines of the parasitic 0.01% who rake in many billions at the expense of the vast majority of mankind, and who are raping this planet. “Meanwhile, income and wealth inequality is rising to stratospheric levels; workers worldwide are experiencing a decline in material conditions (economic, social and ecological) and the entire Planet as a place of human habitation is in jeopardy. All this is the result of a system geared toward the most egregious forms of exploitation, expropriation, waste, and predation on a world scale”. John Bellamy Foster ‘Absolute Capitalism’. And let’s be really honest here. There will be no parliamentary, electoral road to Socialism. The ruling elites will not… Read more »

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 18, 2020 12:48 PM

If the system is so obviously flawed, then how does capitalism continue to get away with such shameless, self-centred behaviour?

Because people are cunts. That’s how.

Jim Porter
Jim Porter
Jan 18, 2020 11:12 AM

In the UK, socialism still exists. BUT Labour’s policies were mental AND they decided to ignore democracy and ignore the Brexit vote. If they had accepted Brexit, they would have got the landslide vote that Boris did and we would be on the first step of the journey to utopia (even with the controlling, mental policies). In the USA, the Dems have similarly gone mental and leave no option but to vote Trump. An example of what I think is mental are hate speech laws and taxing poor people for their carbon footprint. The left are already eating their own tail as they seem not to be in the same reality as everyone else.

CunningLinguist
CunningLinguist
Jan 18, 2020 1:42 PM
Reply to  Jim Porter

You are partly right. Corbyn’s rep for integrity doesn’t really stand up though, when he campaigned for remain, when his sympathies are with a UK outside of the EU.

Corbyn gave a mixed message on Europe, and paid the price.

bob
bob
Jan 18, 2020 11:11 AM

“The UK working class lost much sympathy after its stunning rejection of Jeremy Corbyn’s socialist manifesto in last December’s general election.”

I lost interest after this patronising, I know better than you comment

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 18, 2020 1:14 PM
Reply to  bob

The truth hurts, I guess, bob. What the author writes here is spot on. The working class of the UK has just voted in yet another Rothschild stooge, they just voted for their enemy, again, because they’re too stupid and brain-trained to work out what is really going on on the world, because they are incapable of critical analysis and they are brainwashed by their enemy. Corbyn’s UK was laden with hope FOR THEM, although the scum would most likely have countered his premiership with a lot of false flags and dirty disruptive tactics to ensure his failure. Brexit incoming, this country won’t know what’s hit it and millions will be scratching their heads asking “what have we done?”, when the grim reality of this situation plays out and the penny drops. I still haven’t been made aware of any tangible benefits of Brexit that will actually benefit the people.… Read more »

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 18, 2020 1:17 PM
Reply to  Mucho

The next time you hear a Brit whingeing about socialism and commies and all the other implanted bullshit that pollutes their tiny minds, remind them that the NHS is pure socialism. Then watch them dribble and listen to their pathetic, ill-conceived response.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 18, 2020 1:47 PM
Reply to  Mucho

“Oh that’s right, the dumb UK working class, that’s who.”
It’s not just the working class, it’s the whole population. The people of the UK range from the Bulldog bigots to the nauseating, clueless, Guardian-reading twats in Brighton and everything inbetween. All the corporate, hive-minded Emma Barnett types. The upper classes. The landlords (sick bag please Matron, I just visualised Britains’ landlord class). The list goes on.

Jim Porter
Jim Porter
Jan 18, 2020 2:06 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Have you finished attacking everyone yet? Or is it just the people who have the audacity to disagree with how you wanted things to be. I have been a Labour voter most of my life but this last time they lost the plot – free broadband when free school meals would be more useful – continue to ignore the predominantly moslim rape gangs in the mostly northern towns and cities (still going on now) and recoil into their Londoncentric bubble. How bad did the Labour Party have to be for working class people to vote Tory – well now we know. The present Labour leadership race is hilarious and will no doubt keep them out of power for 15 to 20 years. Who is left for a socialist to vote for?

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 3:42 PM
Reply to  Jim Porter

Damn straight Jim! Bloody Mosslim rape gangs bloody attacking little kids everywhere you go! Bloody immigrants! Bloody no respect for our bloody fantastic culture! And I’m a bloody Labour voter too and I know what’s what about bloody bloody ….

Jim Porter
Jim Porter
Jan 18, 2020 6:34 PM
Reply to  George Mc

If you are taking the piss because you think that I have made that up then check the governments own figures (19000 girls affected by this grooming in 2018/19 year). It has been covered up for at least 15 years so far. Maybe you agree with Naz Shah (Labour MP) who retweeted a quote ‘Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity’. I knew that this subject would trigger this response so deliberately spelt moslem incorrectly just to add to the honey.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 9:17 PM
Reply to  Jim Porter

I knew that this subject would trigger this response so deliberately spelt moslem incorrectly just to add to the honey.

Yes there’s a lot of triggering going on here. And I refuse to take the bait.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 8:22 AM
Reply to  Jim Porter

Labour refused to have a viciously racist and Islamophobic policy, so you were pissed off. They were better off without you. Call yourself a ‘ socialist’-a National Socialist, surely.

Jim Porter
Jim Porter
Jan 20, 2020 10:18 AM

You’re right, I feel dirty. I prostrate myself before you and your woke alter. Please sneer at me as I am a white male (there are millions of us) and should not have an opinion. So, Brexit was a viciously racist and Islamophobic policy? Wow, just wow. You may be interested to know that my best pal Tommy Robinson has just got a journalism award and has been invited to speak in the EU Parliament. You may have assumed things about me – not my problem. You are the new dinosaur, you just don’t know it yet

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 22, 2020 7:46 AM
Reply to  Jim Porter

Narcissistic paranoia is truly hilarious. I’ m a black, white and yellow, transgender hermaphrodite, a victim of the perfidious Dr. Moreau, but by my good right claw, I declare that I hold you gorgeous white males no animus, or anima, whatsoever. You’ re just too, too, entertaining for that.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 18, 2020 2:26 PM
Reply to  Mucho

I listen to Brits’ conversations all the time. Most of the time it involves talking about people they know, behind their back, taking the piss out of them and giving them a good slagging off. They love nothing more than to sit in the pub, belittling and gossipping about their social circle, with their patronising expressions of either fake concern or jubilance about other peoples’ misfortunes. Then if someone walks in who doesn’t look just like them, this is another opportunity to start judging and guessing, always in the negative, what this character is like. This constant sneering means they get to give themselves a big ego boost and feel very important. I am convinced that the reason people engage in this process of belittling and spreading rumours and mocking is because they gain a sense of superiority in doing so. Also, be sure not to let your eyes drift… Read more »

GEOFF
GEOFF
Jan 18, 2020 5:25 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Absolutely spot on , I’ve posted that on here and everywhere else , that’s all the imbeciles can talk about, football , watching multimillionaires kicking a ball around who couldn’t give a shit for them, they can tell you any score from whatever date, wearing their ridiculous silly shirts on with number 5 or which is popular at the time, but couldn’t name a single shadow cabinet member, worst still any of the slobs cabinet.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 12:53 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Excellent.

FOOTBALL – being a religion and MORE important than Life & Death.

The Slave owners being few, have always strived to control their multitudinous slaves by self – imposed mental chains.

The last hundred years has seen the move from fragmented pulpit Christianity to mass media & electromagnetic channels of distributing self imposed slavery.

Football (& other non-elite sport) was used – the bought politicians allowed it to be taken from the free to air tv’s and handed it to the Dirty Digger – an Empire psycho ceo – to mould a propoganda delivery machine around that bait.

And hasn’t it worked accordingly!

Most who claim to not care of politics, care a LOT about FOOTBALL. The best coverage comes with the regular ‘News’ spots on TV and Headlines and Lies in their Sport rags.

GEOFF
GEOFF
Jan 18, 2020 5:17 PM
Reply to  Mucho

You’re right of course, but the slob didn’ t get elected without them, that’s for sure

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 1:51 PM
Reply to  Mucho

“ultra high-tech smart cities”.

Yes, the beloved EU would never sign-up for neo-slavery smart cities! They already are, naive commenter!

“The European innovation partnership on smart cities and communities (EIP-SCC) is an initiative supported by the European Commission that brings together cities, industry, small business (SMEs), banks, research and others.”

https://ec.europa.eu/info/eu-regional-and-urban-development/topics/cities-and-urban-development/city-initiatives/smart-cities_en

Example: Barcelona is a leading city in the process of becoming a Smart City (one example among numerous EU cities).

‘Smart Cities’ is part of the UN Agenda21/2030/Global Governance/SDGs/UN Manifesto – and most countries/ states including the EU which always been inextricably part of this global governance/control plan!

TheThinker
TheThinker
Jan 18, 2020 8:23 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

You can add the 100 Resilient Cities Initiative started 6 years ago by The Rockerfeller Foundation to that list Tallis

https://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/our-work/initiatives/100-resilient-cities/

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 8:36 PM
Reply to  TheThinker

Thanks, TheThinker. Good link!

TheThinker
TheThinker
Jan 18, 2020 9:00 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Welcome, I have like you read Agenda 21/30 and the Smart SuperCity approach of cramming in millions in what I can only see in my own mind (like the original Total Recall) People of the future will be assigned a designation and place of work and home will be at that designation. Crammed in to the Cities, whilst the rest is hived off, only for the Elite to have access to and privatised – everything a human needs to live will be commoditised and if you can’t afford it tough. I see this also with the Climate Agenda – Individuals being told they must take less flights to lessen their Carbon Footprints – but others like De Caprio for example flying all over the place in a private jet with a Carbon Footprint for 10 thousand people or more etc – I wonder why all these plane companies are going… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 9:15 PM
Reply to  TheThinker

Agree with all you say here! Thank you for the link – I will definitely check it out.

Talking of aeroplanes, believe it or not, I’ve only ever been on one plane journey (when I was a toddler so I don’t even remember it)! I haven’t travelled very much (especially as an adult) and only by train, car, ferry and coach. I hope I can get the chance to take a flight somewhere one day soon before they restrict them to the establishment (hopefully this never happens of course)!

TheThinker
TheThinker
Jan 18, 2020 9:30 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Tallis, I hope you find the opportunity to do that. Its an interesting experience. And, I agree, hope the barrier to travelling never happens or at least other ways to do so become available. Interestingly, the article is 3 years old, but I had the notion to check as I always thought there were a lot less people travelling via flight than we think. And the recent bad press about Boeing, perhaps they are being got at in terms of its stock and market competition or other reasons..

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/07/boeing-ceo-80-percent-of-people-never-flown-for-us-that-means-growth.html

Jim Porter
Jim Porter
Jan 20, 2020 3:00 PM
Reply to  TheThinker

Won’t be long before the planes are electric and polluting will be in the deciding of what type of electricity generation is used.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 19, 2020 12:30 AM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Re: smart cities, head over to Brendon O Connell’s channel on YT, watch his totally cutting edge, 10/10 documentary, number 22 in his list, only out for a week or so. It has a smart city element to it, plus so much more, delving deep into the open yet hidden relationship between Israel, Russia and China, the ties with Iran, the Belt and Road project, the history of this and most of all, the transfer of high-technology infrastructure from the USA to China and Israel and who has orchestrated this. Up there with War By Deception in terms of importance. Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour was offering FREE FIBRE BROADBAND for all. This would be a major spanner in the works to 5G. He couldn’t come out and say it as such, because it was too much of a can of worms, but this was possibly touted in defiance of the smart… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 19, 2020 11:32 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Hi Mucho, Thanks for your reply (I’ve only just seen it). Concerning your question about why people back Brexit/Lexit: many of us think about the “tangible” long-term and geopolitical ramifications of staying in the European Union; the knowledge that this entity was set up as a super-state pilot for world federalism. Basically, the EU is just the first example of one of the supranational unions that will help the global establishment incrementally gain complete centralised global technocratic governance of the planet. The other supranational unions planned include an African Union, a Pacific Union and American union (among a tiny handful). We think the EU is a neo-liberal/technocratic, imperial, anti-democratic, ultimately unaccountable, sovereignty-depleting federal state/superstate and no doubt the other unions will be the same; none of us want to be part of the process of a centralised, technocratic one world government for obvious reasons! Re: Jeremy Corbyn’s LP and the… Read more »

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 21, 2020 12:09 AM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

They rigged it alright, this is like a routine procedure for them, a walk in the park, a painless, cheap as chips, almost invisible process which costs them nothing but wins them everything. A tiny investment for a massive return, with no-one to police them. Even if they get caught (which they have been), it makes no difference. A few people work it out…..ok what are you going to do about it? This is why control of the press is so important, it’s a massive cover-up scam. Brits are stupid. They just go along with whatever shit sandwich the Establishment serve them, and think themselves lucky to have it. They have been trained to act this way for generations, probably centuries. I have something I call “dog theory” – say you get a Jack Russell, bred for ratting. Put it in a ratting situation, even though you haven’t trained it… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 21, 2020 11:07 AM
Reply to  Mucho

I agree with your first paragraph, but I disagree with your thoughts on the Brits/people in general. I think you are underestimating (by a country mile!) the palpable fury at the establishment by the general public out there since the completely & transparently corrupt election. Don’t forget we have only had the internet since the late 1990s; the first time that the public have had access to huge amounts of real information, news and knowledge beyond the usual establishment’s official narratives (historically in their uber controlled media forms of limited press, tv radio, magazines, books, etc) — and already people have had their eyes and minds’ opened to how the world really is run, and who runs it, and also why (in this short space of time since only the ’90s). I reckon it will take just a teeny while longer before the lid comes off; before the public organise… Read more »

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 21, 2020 1:38 PM
Reply to  Tallis Marsh

Brits don’t care. The Corbyn movement will not grow any further, they’ve just killed the Corbyn movement, now the burial process is underway. If Corbyn starts his own party, maybe there is a glimmer of hope, but Labour is dead, it’s infested with wrecking balls and clueless cocksuckers, as are UK parties in general. The establishment are just too good at this shit. They spend billions of taxpayers’ money honing systems of control, they have developed these systems over centuries and they have a system of surveillance which is so intrusive and all knowing it’s beyond a joke (much of this surveillance hardware is designed in Israel. The UK is a massive cash cow for Israel’s security/tech industry. It’s already gone beyond a joke, and now Bojo , another Rothschild stooge, is in power and Brexit is going through, guess what this massive investment in infrastructure will bring? More Israeli… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 21, 2020 6:05 PM
Reply to  Mucho

I know how powerful the estab is (I would not underestimate them but they are not all-powerful), but I think you hugely underestimate the British public. Also, your comments make you seem extremely defeatist? There is still hope with the Corbyn Movement; it has not stopped, in fact I reckon the corrupt election has increased our resolve. There is also a good chance for other anti-estab movements, and even future new parties if it comes to that in the end. In general, the public seems to be up for the fight after talking to people in my local community (not just in my small circle); and after my scouring of the internet: social media, blogs, news forums – MSM as well as alternative (and the gate-keeping ‘alternatives). I don’t think the Brits are going to let this corruption lie. Only time will tell of course … To be frank, I… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 8:28 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Why do you think that simple, fact-based, science, is pure ‘evil’?

GEOFF
GEOFF
Jan 18, 2020 5:14 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Couldn’t agree more, I told friends in the pub who voted leave “you don’t understand what you’ve just done” I’m no great political animal , but a fuckin imbecile could see what was about to happen, do they really believe the hairy arsed slob, johnson is going to make their lives better? oh I forgot, we can always vote them out, ha ha ha ha haha dream on zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

CunningLinguist
CunningLinguist
Jan 18, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  bob

Spot on. In a democracy, there is no higher authority than the electorate.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 3:47 PM

What the hell is that even supposed to mean? No higher authority than the ones pumping out sufficient brain rot to momentarily sway the soap watchers? In a true democracy, the population should be given more control than a pathetic pseudo-choice relayed via pathetic pseudo-issues every few years.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 8:29 AM

What an idiot lie-the highest authority is the owners of the society, the capitalist parasites. The plebs count for nothing but cannon fodder.

BigB
BigB
Jan 18, 2020 9:28 AM

Excellent progression …that gets close, but perhaps not close enough? Socialism is universal: the underprivileged in class solidarity and the internationale to end wage slavery. The global compassionate mind is something I just made up to represent these value-rational truths. Which is a level and smooth plane of equality and immanence where no thing is over-valued, privileged, or has exceptional and entitled status. Which exposes the falsity of the premise of ‘workers’ and ‘unionised jobs’. In a depleting and poison ravaged planet: pro-industrialisation is pro-imperialism …taking from others, forcing them into underprivileged and maldeveloped underclass status. So we can have unions and jobs in a developed set of imaginary bourgeois social relations: divorced from the global immiseration and ecological desolation this causes. In short: if this is the depth of our insight – we are no different from the ‘bosses’ who take the lion’s share. Only our deprivation and forcing… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 9:23 AM

‘Russia,’ ‘socialism’ and ‘commie bastard’… Still recycling that old shite? Well it doesn’t surprise me given all the other ancient bullshit memes shamelessly regurgitated (e.g. little moustachioed German screamers and ovens, the demonisation of Russia without communism to serve as an excuse etc.) Although the real issue is why this crud is swallowed by a population who were never even alive during the actual existence of the offending regimes. The only thing I can think is that the big easy-to-read comic book of the media really is The Holy Bible for most. As for people posing as mental health cases being diagnosed as such, the mental health industry is as much a con as everything else. It finds “genuine cases” because that’s what it’s there for – like inspectors who must report failing services because, if they don’t, it doesn’t look like they’re doing their job. One of the biggest… Read more »

Stephen Morrell
Stephen Morrell
Jan 18, 2020 8:51 AM

Not having read Rosenthal’s work, from what the reviewer reports though, there doesn’t appear too much wrong (in general or in essence) with what she says: 1. That by overwhelming force of numbers, the revolution will minimise violence and bloodshed, most of which stems from the overthrown rulers’ efforts to regain power; 2. The trade union bureaucracy is a major roadblock to workers making the unions work effectively in their own interests, and ultimately serving the working class’s historic role making a revolution; 3. That eventually when all human needs are satisfied, there will be little need for money/currency in the transition to communism. The problem with this review is that the reviewer appears to be quite unfamiliar with Marxism — evidenced by the casual discounting of the possibility of revolution “based on a revolutionary format that failed in 1917”, and that any “dream of a Marxist revolution and cash-free… Read more »

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Jan 18, 2020 9:27 AM

Rosenthal doesn’t sound like much of a threat to capitalism because she doesn’t think about why the workers don’t just go ahead and have a revolution. This is the big mystery. Perhaps capitalism is kept stable through constant statecraft ( i.e. conspiracies ) despit being inherently unstable.

J. lowrie
J. lowrie
Jan 18, 2020 10:20 AM

”Stalin led a political counterrevolution, ………. the soviets were emasculated to become rubber stamps, with workers democracy essentially smashed; and bureaucratic rule and political repression prevailed”

No, Lenin and Trotsky had already done all this! cf J.D. White ”Marx and Russia: the Fate of a Doctrine” for how the Leninists departed from Marx. There was nothing left for Stalin to betray. This is the hoary old myth of Stalin as ‘the diabolos ex machina of the Russian Revolution’. We will get not an inch forward by recycling all this empty rhetoric from the past. We need new concepts and ideas relevant to the contemporary world. To be refighting all those old battles of the Russian revolution is today reactionary, as Marx himself observed in his day of all those French socialists refighting the battles of the French Revolution!

Stephen Morrell
Stephen Morrell
Jan 18, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  J. lowrie

Maurice Brinton, in his 1970 pamphlet The Bolsheviks and Workers Control documented the progressive emasculation and dissolution of soviets; the appointment from above of administrators and managers; the general advocacy of Taylorism and one-man management, often by the same ‘man’ who bossed the workers around before the revolution; the dissolution of the factory committees; and attempts to turn the trade unions into organs of state discipline. The demise of the factory committees in particular likely removed a potential barrier to bureaucratisation, which was occurring out of brute necessity: to secure state power and to resuscitate production as quickly as possible under conditions of utter economic collapse and chaos in a huge backward country ruined by imperialist war and then by Civil War. However, the factory committees (and some soviets), also were seen as potential barriers to reviving production and to overall economic planning and prioritisation, which can only come from… Read more »

J. lowrie
J. lowrie
Jan 18, 2020 4:14 PM

On the Slogan for a United States of Europe, Lenin wrote, ”Uneven economic and political development is an absolute law of capitalism. Hence, the victory of socialism is possible first in several or even in one capitalist country alone. After expropriating the capitalists and organising their own socialist production, the victorious proletariat of that country will arise against the rest of the world.” Seems he might have got this idea from Kautsky. ”cause the deaths of millions of peasants during the forced collectivisation of the late 1920s” Who then caused the great famine of 1921? Anyway the argument you present here is that of the Ukrainian Nazis and has been refuted by the research of the likes of Wheatcroft and Mark Tauger, so much so the Robert Conquest, the very right wing ideologue in charge of black propaganda at British intelligence against the Soviet Union, who had himself propagated this… Read more »

Stephen Morrell
Stephen Morrell
Jan 19, 2020 12:48 AM
Reply to  J. lowrie

First on Stalin’s forced collectivisation. The immediate and catastrophic fall in agricultural productivity was a direct consequence of: (i) no industrial capacity to produce and supply the mechanised agricultural equipment so necessary for the large scale agriculture of the sudden appearance of newly collectivised farms; (ii) since the kulaks and middle peasants saw themselves as being expropriated, they sold whatever equipment, stock and seed they had on hand before going into the collectives, and consequently they essentially stopped producing. The fall in grain production, around 16%, didn’t match the decimation of livestock: 55% of horses, 40% of cattle, 55% of pigs, 66% of sheep. And of course the millions who died as a result of the collectivisation’s brutal, forced-march character. Of course unfavourable crop yields and natural variations in weather and climate, etc, always play their part, always have, always will, but the outcomes of these ‘natural causes’ were only… Read more »

J. lowrie
J. lowrie
Jan 19, 2020 10:48 AM

Stephen, I do not think we can continue this discussion here any longer, for there will be no end to it. I shall make the following points: 1) You obviously avoid the question of responsibility for the 1921 famine. Is that because it cannot be laid at Stalin’s door? 2)” And of course the millions who died as a result of the collectivisation’s brutality.” Okay, you did not care to study Tauger. Here is a question: why did not these starving peasants eat all these dead animals? Why are there no famines subsequent to collectivisation despite Russia’s long history of such? There was for example a mass famine in 1924. For a closely argued account of Soviet industrial revolution cf R.C. Allen ”Farm to Factory” (2003). The restoration of capitalism post 1990 led to a demographic catastrophe. No talk of Yeltsin starving the citizens to death ( Gudarov ”Probuzhdenie” Moscow… Read more »

Stephen Morrell
Stephen Morrell
Jan 20, 2020 12:13 AM
Reply to  J. lowrie

1. Your question ‘Who then caused the great famine of 1921?’ is yet another red herring. There’s nothing at all controversial about the 1921-22 Povolzhye famine. The main natural cause was the drought of 1921, the second in a row. The Volga basin breadbasket was severely affected: 100,000 people from affected areas were evacuated to Siberia; the tax in kind lifted on affected peasantry; and Herbert Hoover’s American Relief Administration was allowed to minister to the affected areas. The famine was the main underlying factor prompting the ending of War Communism, which was absolutely necessary to win the Civil War, but Lenin’s turn to the New Economic Policy (NEP) to revive production was key to preventing a peasant-based counterrevolution. The compulsory grain requisitioning during the Civil War by the Bolsheviks (and by all sides) who offered little or nothing in return was always going to disincentivise the peasantry and encourage… Read more »

J. lowrie
J. lowrie
Jan 20, 2020 5:25 PM

”1. Your question ‘Who then caused the great famine of 1921?’ is yet another red herring. There’s nothing at all controversial about the 1921-22 Povolzhye famine. The main natural cause was the drought of 1921, the second in a row.” Okay, but 1932 Ukrainian agriculture was also hit by a series of environmental disasters, including drought, fungal disease and infestations of mice and insects. Why is the one uncontroversial but not the other? ” Stalin seriously believed Germany wouldn’t invade the USSR ” Are you serious? ”infinitely better Trotsky’s Revolution Betrayed” I quote from this work:”Marxism sets out from the development of technique as the fundamental spring of progress and constructs the communist programme upon the dynamic of the productive forces. If you conceive that some cosmic catastrophe is going to destroy the planet in the fairly near future, then you must reject the communist perspective…..By the lowest stage of… Read more »

J. lowrie
J. lowrie
Jan 20, 2020 6:34 PM
Reply to  J. lowrie

Below I post part of the difficulty faced by the ‘unoriginal’ Cockshott and co. A pioneer in integrated planning was the great Russian Marxist Bogdanov, who at one time led the Bolshevik party with Lenin, but whose work was supressed by Lenin and in fact was imprisoned by Lenin, Trotsky and comrades. He demanded to be interrogated by the head of the Cheka, Dzierzzynski. They had once shared a Czarist prison cell. Bogdanov’s supposed crime? Fomenting workers’ strikes! . ”I have now reached the stage where I can build realistic linear optimisation models of the UK economy at the level of detail given by the UK input output tables. As a test run I am evaluating a 5 year plan to shift the composition of industry and output to produce a reduction in the trade deficit. The resulting linear programme in .lp format occupies a file of about 28MB and… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 10:55 AM

I think you are completely right about how the Labour Party and the unions have effectively nullified any possible socialist consciousness in the workers – but then again, these organisations were all about protecting capital by ensuring at least the appearance of bigger crumbs for the workers. I’m not sure if I understand your last bit: “Finally, given that the reviewer didn’t go ballistic about Rosenthal stressing a need for a Bolshevik party to split the working class away from its present misleaders and to lead and win it over to carrying out a socialist revolution (despite the stricture against the “the format that failed in 1917”), one might guess, from the left rather than from what the denizens of the local may think, that Rosenthal’s work doesn’t pose much of a threat to capitalism. Always happy to proven wrong.” If Rosenthal and the reviewer are happy to stress “a… Read more »

Stephen Morrell
Stephen Morrell
Jan 18, 2020 1:08 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I should have expressed myself more clearly. I meant to convey — since I haven’t read Rosenthal’s book — that based on the reviewer not going ballistic about it, that Rosenthal then wasn’t advocating building a Bolshevik party by splitting the working class from its current misleaders, and therefore that what she was saying was no threat to capitalism (since such a split would be the first step in the working class becoming a class for itself). Sorry about that.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Jan 18, 2020 8:38 AM

The first paragraph was enough for me. It was the reviewer rather than the book itself which I found particularly offensive. This sounded like a typical ‘Remainer’ bemoaning the fact that these bloody proles don’t know what is good for them and its all their fault that we are stuck with a Tory government. In point of fact it was – to use Sunspeak – the second referendum wot done it. On the Brexit issue the centre-left went missing, as has been the case all over Europe. The crass opportunism of the PLP and the prospect of being under rule of the bureaucratic neo-liberal elites ensconced in Brussels was enough to swing the vote. The political classes are in control of the political system; a cosmopolitan, globalizing class that thinks it can run the system better than the traditional ruling class. But liberalism is a double edged ideology. It has… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 11:21 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

So instead of liberalism from Brussels we now have liberalism from Washington?

Chris Rogers
Chris Rogers
Jan 18, 2020 3:02 PM
Reply to  George Mc

That should actually read: “So instead of neoliberalism from Brussels we now have neoliberalism on steroids from Washington.”

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 3:29 PM
Reply to  Chris Rogers

Hey but as long as those Brexiteer proles get to wave their little Union Jacks!

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Jan 18, 2020 10:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes, those damn proles/deplorables. They should be disenfranchised. Right now for another Peterloo massacre, that’ll teach them.

We get our neo-liberalism from both the EU, which is essentially a system of American vassal states, and Washington. This arrangement being a sort of monkey/organ-grinder relationship.

Willem
Willem
Jan 18, 2020 7:22 AM

The assumption that the last election in the UK was fair, is a pretty strong assumption, being that 40% of the votes were postal votes. Unfortunate that the author doesn’t mention this and just assumes that working class people are idiots. Also the idea that unions can break austerity is a strong assumption. Although I am sympathetic with the idea of a Union, fighting for better wages of their members, there is this correlation that wages only go up if inflation goes up. And then there is also this unfortunate correlation of Union leaders who sell themselves out to political parties, careerists that they are. This is also not discussed. In terms of the televised demonstrations over the world; I disagree. The yellow vests are hardly televised, and if demonstrations are televised it is usually with a lot of bias, demonizing the demonstrators. All in all, this article appears to… Read more »

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 18, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  Willem

Well said!

richard le sarc
richard le sarc
Jan 18, 2020 5:44 AM

The means by which the ruling parasites get the plebs to vote against their interests are plain enough. First, half the population is of below median intelligence, many far below, pig ignorant, metabolically deranged on junk food diets, slowly dementing from early adulthood and alive only in the sense that they could fog a mirror. Many happily vote to harm others, rather than for them and for all society. Just so long as they think they are ‘winners’, they do not give a toss what happens to ‘losers’ like the poor, homeless and disabled. Second they are relentlessly brainwashed by a system of MSM, Internet, PR and, perhaps most pernicious of all, advertising, from birth. Divide and Rule, most recently in its Identity Politics incarnation, sets group against group against group. And the dullards get exactly the same vote as those with some nous and knowledge, who do not hate… Read more »

Willem
Willem
Jan 18, 2020 7:36 AM

‘First, half the population is of below median intelligence’

You can’t blame them for that, as it is in the definition.

And then there is also this issue of what ‘intelligence’ is.

I think most people can see through most bullshit. That is why you can make so much money by professionally spinning reality.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 8:38 AM
Reply to  Willem

I meet people every work day, from a mostly working-class demographic. Most would not know that a tram was up them till you rang its bell. Many are nice enough people, but more and more, as the years roll by, are as selfish and nasty as they are stupid and ignorant. Homo boganensis.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 18, 2020 9:29 AM

I like your style RLS – and I’m afraid I’m drifting increasingly towards misanthropy myself. Although I don’t think it is a case of people being stupid as in knowing full well that they can do nothing against the system individually and forming a unity is almost impossible to even imagine. Therefore everyone has developed an “I’m alright Jack” mentality for the simple reason that they see no alternative.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 8:42 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I’ m not so much a misanthrope as a realist. I mix with people every day in my work, and they are getting dumber, greedier and more happily ignorant as the years go by. I do not blame them-I blame the free market capitalist system and those in the MSM and advertising sewers who do the social brainwashing. And metabolic derangement. You can see the evidence in their blood, urine, faeces and MRI scans, if necessary. With a lot, you can hear their brains rattle if they shake their heads.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Jan 18, 2020 10:22 PM

It might be a good idea for you to consult the worldly wise (unfortuately late) German playright Bertolt Brecht on this issue. Neal Ascherson wrote: “After the East Berlin rising in 1953, Bertolt Brecht is supposed to have made the ironic suggestion that the Communist regime should dismiss the people and appoint a new one.” (“Are we the electorate they deserve?” 23 March). There’s no supposed about it. These words are to be found in one of Brecht’s most famous poems, “The Solution”: ”After the uprising of June 17th The Secretary of the Authors’ Union Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee Which said that the people Had forfeited the government’s confidence And could only win it back By redoubled labour. Wouldn’t it Be simpler in that case if the government Dissolved the people and Elected another?” Yes, clearly we need to elect a ‘new electorate’ who would vote the right… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 8:47 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

It’s the same with Australian Labor. Whitlam had a Cabinet of real intellectual giants, and figures of real human distinction, forged in the Depression and War. Today, the ALP is a sheltered workshop for Rightwing union time-servers and Catholic reactionaries and homophobes, chancers on the look for opportunities to rat on the Party and sell their sorry arses to the highest business bidders, ‘ protected assets’ of the US Embassy, boot-lickers to Israel, and plain imbeciles.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Jan 18, 2020 5:40 AM

Perhaps we need to outslogan the parasites.
#endcorporaterule
#diecorpara$ite$
#sharethewealth
#fuckwageslavery
Etc etc.