Launching “No Deal for Nature”
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From Cory Morningstar on Facebook
After two months of hard work, we are proud to announce our new campaign and website to oppose the financialization of nature (as well as “social and human capital”).
No foundation funding. No advertising. No Vogue layouts. A grassroots volunteer effort – asking for nothing except your resistance.
No Deal For Nature
The financialization of nature (monetization of nature) is to be agreed upon this year (The Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) 15-28 October 2020). This is the corporate capture of the commons, global in scale. This represents the greatest transformation of the financial economic system in modern day history. Those with money will own nature.
The capture of nature is moving forward under the guise of the “New Deal For Nature” term/campaign led by the World Economic Forum (WEF) and WWF. The key players include the United Nations (WEF partner as of June 13, 2019), the Natural Capital Coalition, Conservation International, Business for Nature, IUCN, WBCSD, Al Gore, etc.
Founding partners of Business for Nature include the World Economic Forum, The Natural Capital Coalition, WWF, We Mean Business, WBCSD, The Food and Land Use Coalition, Tropical Forest Alliance, The Nature Conservancy, International Chamber of Commerce, World Resources Institute,Confederation of Indian Industry, and Entreprises pour l’Environnement (EpE).
Growing list of Business for Nature partners:
https://www.businessfornature.org/about
The “Super Year” campaign has been designed to establish the social license required of the citizenry. They want you to not only accept, but even demand, A New Deal For Nature. All roads, all campaigns that have saturated the media since the fall of 2018, have strategically led to this grotesque intent.
The sister campaign of New Deal For Nature is Voice For The Planet (WEF & WWF) promoted by Attenborough, Goodall & Thunberg.
Catte Black and all at OffG are proud to be working in concert with Cory and everyone at No Deal For Nature. We urge our readers to bookmark the website and follow them on Twitter at @nodealfornature.
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What is the Great Global Warming Scam all about?
The International Panel On Climate Finance (IPCF), together with the IMF and World Bank, (Little Greta’s sponsors), are creating a Global Climate Capital Raising Plan, under the leadership of that great saviour of polar bears, Mark “Goldman Sachs” Carney.
Pension funds will be raided to the tune of $1 trillion a year to finance green boondoggles and transfer wealth upwards.
The Apollo Space Programme cost $25.4 billion, or $150 billion in current values.
So Mark C. and his chums will be helping themselves to the equivalent of 7 space programmes each and every year.
Well worth their investment in Little Greta.
AS a framework or medium for communication – I abhor the chosen template format. There was something to be said for ‘simple’. The development of gizmo and slick is generally the art of hyping lack of content or hidden payload. So I see the fragmented mind in the use of such a (ubiquitous template). I bought Cory Morningstar’s ‘The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg’, and found it was such a mishmash of factoids as to be almost unreadable – thought of controlled opposition entered my mind – not least because the era of the pre-emptive strike anticipates and usurps even its own opposition. But it may be that Cory simply published web content as a ‘book’ without redrafting – in desire to get it out fast. I see the increasing desperation of the powerful in sustaining the unsustainable – such as to raid or monetise anything and everything in the same… Read more »
Hallelujah! The ecodharma is telling it like it is. On a personal note: maybe I’ll get a hand trying to start the eological conversation from now on? The most important conversation humanity will ever have: given the consequences of the outcome(s). 😉 Every corporation in the world has developed their green strategy to conform to the BIS/WEF green deal for neoliberal globalisation. Ditto: every government. The City of London will determine what projects get funded: according to green criteria. Those who do not consent will be put out of business: as Mark Carnage – the de facto BIS/WEF ecological finance minister – has already warned. A successful resistance to the GDFN(eoliberalism) and people (corporate personhood) is a successful resistance to capitalism, globalised market, transnational corporate, private property, privateered money (and debt), and state ontologies. There can be no tweaking. A new vision for humanity is required. And a new humanism.… Read more »
Capitalism is cancer. It’s that simple. Capitalism is excised, and chemo or some other therapy, applied to the metastases, or Life on Earth goes.
Rick Simpson’s prescription for cancers is 60 grams of cannabis oil taken by mouth over 90 days (no mean feat in itself!) Wonder how it might be deployed to destroy the cancer of capitalism; oh, and that other cancer trying to take over and obliterate Palestine…?
That other cancer oblierating Palestine took a great leap forward just last week. Plenty of commentary elsewhere but nothing in Off-Guardian yet.
“On a personal note: maybe I’ll get a hand trying to start the eological conversation from now on?”
Where, how?
Why all the vindictiveness against Greta?
She’s got people out on the streets and it won’t be long before some of them put two and two together and realise Corporate Capitalschism is the problem.
The MSM have embraced her because they had no choice. The elephant in the room was/is too big.
BTW, the no deal for nature site shows all the hallmarks of more corporate spin.
An attractive young woman as Mother Earth/ Gaia?
Give me a break.
She is just another example of child abuse, another grossly over promoted utterly synthetic product of globalist corporate interests, so now we have Little Greta to go with Little Baana and Little Dusty Boy and Little Malala and all the rest. Convenient tools to promote the agenda of endless war, exploitation and financial looting, headed up by Mark Carney doing a Madoff with trillions of pension find money shortly.
A convenient diversion from real issues. Just charge down the global warming rabbit hole, or the identity politics rabbit hole, or whatever other rabbit holes they direct us towards, so long as you don’t ask any awkward questions about what’s really going on.
And if say Pamela Anderson or some other female icon was in Greta’s position, would you be saying the same things?
Do we have reverse ageism happening here?
No, I’d say the same thing about vacuous self serving celebrity hypocrites like Di Caprio, Clooney, J.K. Rowling, Elton John, Gwyneth Paltrow, or Michael Moore.
Greta is just an easily exploited and manipulated mentally handicapped little child who no doubt believes all the global warming brainwashing she has been fed by her abusive activist parents.
It just reflects the infantilism of western society that this garbage is taken at all seriously. But let’s just get out the bongo drums and paint our faces and follow Little Greta.
Greta was either authentic, to begin with, and now exploited by the capitalist brainwashing system, or a project from the beginning. Unless and until she denounces the root cause of all our travails, capitalism, she must be considered suspect. A limited hang-out at best. If she did, of course, she would cease being the MSM’s darling, but there you go. A hard choice for a 16 year old. But her basic message, that anthropogenic climate destabilisation is destroying the habitability of the planet for our species, is irrefutable.
She was inauthentic from the beginning. Her mother who is in the entertainment industry promoted her as a possible icon of the Green movement, and, before that, pitched her as the star of a reality TV show. Her very first ‘protest’ was staged and filmed. She is the managed property of very exploitative people
Short, to the point, and truthful.
Thank you.
If we want confected garbage, we read The Guardian or Washington Post.
If we want the truth, we come to sites like this one.
“Short, to the point,”
Indeed
“and truthful.”
The last sentence excluded, how do you know?
Well that just about settles it. I expect that she’ll become a devotee of ‘Green capitalism’ or some other racket now. Or perhaps she’ll rebel. The fact that she got such intensive attention from the Evil and morally corrupt Western MSM was always a bad sign.
“Well that just about settles it.” Points in ‘that’ that I have not yet seen verified: she was promoted as a possible Green icon prior to any public appearance as such she was previously pitched as the star of a reality tv show her appearance in some public space with an anti-ecocatastrophe poster was staged (by implication, other than in the obvious way that she chose to display a poster in public) and filmed (other than by a news editor sending out a cameraman to chase a possible story tip-off on a slow news day, which tip-off–if it occurred–may or may not be indicative of prior deeper [state] intent). Personally, I am inclined to believe both all of “Admin”‘s post and take its implied subtext at its intended face value, especially in light of subsequent events, but what any “I” believes and so takes to be true is not any… Read more »
Are the ‘staff’of the Off-Guardian prohibited, as is the case with many other commercial enterprises–and increasingly likely to be the case the bigger, more interlocked with approved mores and more bureaucratic those enterprises get–from airing their personal opinions in public, in their own name or under their preferred personal pseudonym, or is there some other reason for their(?) choice of identification to be one resembling a phalanx? This post in itself comprises no disagreement with the content of the post to which it is a reply (or, at least, its concluding sentence: the exact circumstances of Ms Thunberg’s early route into the company of Nobel nominees, outlined between the words ‘promoted’ and ‘filmed’ in that post, were previously unknown to me. I, personally, have seen only one still photograph of her earliest appearance as the world’s leading champion of its biosphere and have no knowledge of how it or any… Read more »
She’s got people out on the streets campaigning for the corporate banksters! If they’re dumb and manipulated enough to do that what makes you think they’ll suddenly start thinking for themselves?
You seem to have an idea that a fake Green cause is some sort of segue or halfway house to the real thing. It isn’t.
To assume that all ER protesters are ‘dumb or manipulated’ is a tad simplistic.
The Kraken wakes.
It’s like saying that all denialists, so late in the day, are ‘dumb or manipulated’. Well-no it’s not.
Wasn’t the Kraken dumb?
He, or rather they, pretty much rooted humanity if I remember well. Melting the ice-caps-how spookily prescient was that!?
Go study some real science.
How would you define ‘real science’. Anything you can, or think you can, understand?
Well most Climate scientists I have spoken with cannot seem to understand or explain how energy is transferred from a battery via switch to a light bulb. And they call themselves scientists .Can you?
It was the MSM that gave us her!
You’re shooting the messenger.
Here’s the message>>
https://medium.com/extinction-rebellion/extinction-rebellion-isnt-about-the-climate-42a0a73d9d49
Anthropogenic climate destabilisation is only part of the ecological Holocaust, all of it brought to you by global capitalism.
“Anthropogenic climate destabilisation is only part of the ecological Holocaust”
And, possibly, not the ultimate clincher.
It’s like being forced to swallow ricin, anectine, strychnine, arsenic, Po 210 and cyanide all at once. Whichever kills you is beside the point.
“Whichever kills you is beside the point.”
I didn’t say it was. My point was that the current monomaniacal concentration on AGW obscures acknowledgement of any of the other possibly still addressable, potentially terminal ecopoisons, thus increasing the likelihood that the only activity that may be marginally existentially productive, best preparing to weather the storm, will also be neglected beyond the last moment of feasibility.
Interesting list of “the problems” there:
• white-supremacy
• patriarchy
• Eurocentrism
• hetero-sexism/heteronormativity
The last one: “class hierarchy” sounds a bit closer to the mark but then I find it defined as “delusions” that “uphold the theory that the rich elite are better/smarter/nobler than the rest of us, and make therefore better decisions.” i.e. defined as if it were a mere bit of prejudice and not an inescapable structure of capitalist society. And there’s the problem. That little word “capitalism” is not mentioned once.
Seriously FD, you can’t be that naive? The mainstream presstitutes are Part Of The Problem. They are promoting Greta for a very obvious reason, which sadly, and tragically, many millions around the World have swallowed hook line and sinker.
Greta is yet another Trojan Horse for the Capitalist scum around her to make vast fortunes. Its about $$$$.
The replies of both Paul and Admin to you FD hit the nail on the head.
It appears that divide and rule works just as effectively on offguardian readers.
Greta, manipulated or not, has got more people pissed off about the inaction or ambivalence of the ruling class than anyone who came before her.
If she’s their pawn (according to the latest ‘hero’ Cory) I don’t give a shit.
Their game plan will be exposed as the climate becomes more catastrophic.
Without mass movements the Left will continue to piss in the wind.
Why are you so reactive and defensive when it comes to Greta Thunberg?
I’m not having a go at you FD, and I’m definately not having a go at Greta Thunberg.
I am taking aim at, and having a go at The Greedy Capitalist Vultures who have surrounded Greta and are Using her for their own agenda.
That’s who I am angry at, but with respect FD, you also seem to take umbrage at the fact that Cory Morningstar, who has gone into great detail in exposing these bastards, as being a personal attack on Greta.
As I told you last time, Cory Morningstar is NOT attacking Greta. She is attacking Those who have Latched Onto Greta.
And to repeat, Paul’s reply nails it in one. Have a good evening.
First things first Geezah: Greta is still a child. She is being demonised and belittled on this site and many others. Greta has, what I call, an ‘unability’ (as opposed to a disability). Her Aspergers makes her extremely perceptive and focused on some aspects of Life. We both know, along with most of the Folks who use this site, who the Parasites are. Greta will learn. The MSM and the Masters of Destruction have made a miscalculation. When Greta and her followers wake up and speak up (and have no doubts, they will). The ugly corporate edifices the Parasites have constructed will start to crumble. The Green/Left movement has been kicking and screaming for at least fifty years, with little to show. Extinction Rebellion is our last chance to stop the Behemoth of full blown corporate fascism. Occupy was stomped on, but ER is now too big to be stomped… Read more »
It’s already far too late-Copenhagen 2009, personally torpedoed by St. Obama, was about our last, slim, hope. The end will probably be quite quick now, depending on when the nukes and bio-weapons are unleashed.
That’s the basic situation for the global population. The managers of our “democracy” are delivering showbusiness. The imperative has always been: figure out what the plebs want and give them it …as a spectacle. They want rebellion? Fine! We’ll deliver! And as we do, the plebs have two choices: cheer the show on or bark at the moon. Either way, they are just spectators.
Protests, blockades, boycotts, strikes, corporate AGM disruptions and many arrests.
Not exactly sidelines.
Yes it’s a good show!
Showbusiness? Brzezinski, Evil Incarnate, recommended ‘titietainment’ ie titillation plus entertainment to keep the serfs stupefied.
“Give me a break.”
You like some feedback on the new website https://nodealfornature.org/?
Great deal of good photography and videography as well as advanced features in webpage programming.
However .. all laid to waste as superposing various imagery and text elements have rendered text unreadable (eyesore?) and resulted in INCOMPREHENSIBLE gibberish.
“However .. all laid to waste as superposing various imagery and text elements have rendered text unreadable (eyesore?) and resulted in INCOMPREHENSIBLE gibberish.” You wanted shiny new phones and toys that set you apart from the crowd. Then the commercially motivated ghouls who saw them and your fondness for them really really needed shinier and newer GI fizz and pop, the better to exploit your pocket. A complete consumer immersion experience. And all the time you and they wanted more and more. And private enterprise ensured you had both hundreds of competing combinations of hardware and software all with their unique profit lock-ins. So, between you all, you all you engineered getting it all. And you all still want more and you’ll all continue to hustle for it. So now you’ve got an increasingly divergent array of not quite compatible generators and renderers and their “developers” and their “designers” and… Read more »
We fail to understand why you post these pseudo-tech-savvie comments in which you frequently misapply or misuse terms in streams of semi-gibberish apparently designed to do nothing but convince people you’re a coder or computer whizz (you’re clearly not) and/or patronise or insult random commenters. Stop.
“designed to do nothing but convince people you’re a coder or computer whizz (you’re clearly not)” We? ? Coder? Clearly I’m not, but clearly I was, up until about 40 years ago. My specialty was coding at the metal level (assembler and lower) and includes a couple of specialized OSs). Later, communications applications started to predominate. Convincing people (retrospectively)? Couldn’t give a shit. Computer whizz? I’m happy with what people voted with their wallets for up until about 25 years ago when I supposedly retired from all day jobs. Still happy with the result$ of occasional consultancy for people who know more about my competence than you. Frequently misapply or misuse terms? No contest, always have to some extent, especially after I stopped coding. Not interested since then in much else beside overall metaviews (architecture, implications). Point out some specific misapplied or misused terms if you want clarifications or capitulations.… Read more »
“Could you especially include the browser/device you’re viewing on” (re glitches on the No Deal for Nature website): says it all.
It’s not our design. And this isn’t helpful to the people trying to make it work. There are a few glitches, but no major issues we know of. Try not to gloat.
“It’s not our design.” FFS, what is wrong with you? I have been making the point (for many years, since before O-G was born) that the too frequently impossible or near impossible demands of technical outsiders–business managers, advertising agents, users etc–on the design of hardware, firmware and software (including compilers, interpreters, internal and external protocols and such)–to meet their various requirements–marketing, sales, advertising, glitz, wilful technological ignorance, finance, artificial deadlines to meet reports, seasons, fashion, whatever–has created a mountain-range sized rat’s nest minefield of tangled spaghetti that no amount good intention and aquired skill will enable any individual or any conceivably affordable hardware, firmware or software team to get work out of the door without treading on eggshells, thereby courting anything from at least egg on face to at most infrastructural, financial or social disaster with every release. Given that that’s life for system engineers, what chance do “developers” at… Read more »
Tempory confinement to a tablet resulted in a double-draft post, below. Skip to second FFS for the intended post.
As a former IT bod, I have sympathy for what you say, and in view of what seem to me to be Admin’s slightly unfair attacks on you, I feel the need to declare solidarity with you, as a fellow member of the no-longer-employed computer programmers’ trade union. (I dislike the term “coder”, clearly used here by admin, or at least often by others, in a pejorative sense; there is a lot more than “coding” to what people like me, and probably you used to do for a living, involving things like problem analysis, specification, system design, logic, and no doubt many other things I’ve forgotten. “Coding” (i.e. writing lines of non-human language in order for it to be compiled, assembled, or interpreted ultimately into bare machine code for a computer to execute, was only one aspect (although quite an interesting one for many of us). Sounds like we were… Read more »
“…I feel the need to declare solidarity with you…” Thanks Mike. I have no particular problem with the word ‘coder’ when it’s used to specify the act of physically writing the programming intructions for compilation or interpretation (which can require considerable skill in itself, quite apart from the other activities you mention) except, sometimes, when it’s used to describe doing simple hypertext markup, scripting or library manipulation from a very simple program for the purpose aggrandizing these tasks, but it is certainly a word that wasn’t around a lot when I was at the sharp edge of such things. ‘…I assume that you and Admin must have some “history”.’ Not as far as I know. I’ve never knowingly had two-way contact with any of them although several months ago one(?) of them posited an outright falsehood about the content of some of my earlier comments posted over a considerable period… Read more »
Robbobbobin used ‘you’ 13 times in one paragraph!
13 times?! Not a good number for a technojesus like me. As for my bad choice of pronoun, I got caught somewhat short when I discovered that the paper had run out and I had to rip a page out of my mental grammarian, with which to temporarily plug the gap. Unfortunately that page was… you guessed it. Would you be so kind as to remind me, apart from the reflexive case, what the plural of “you” is and I’ll do my best to remedy my post so it no longer relies on reader savoire-faire.
Agreed! Something needs to be done urgently about the website. Good ideas and images, but woefully graphicked.
100% agree. I could not bear to “read” it. Too much gloss and no apparent content (with very slow load time on Safari browser using IoS). I shan’t bother parading my credentials but have worked as a web author for approx 15 years. Very unlikely to look at it again.
“Very unlikely to look at it again.”
Assuming it will be updated as events require (after fixing), that would be a misstep if you have any real interest in keeping up with one of the more significant initiatives in these matters in our time.
Powerful imagery in the photo (above) by Mario Sanchez Nevado. It sums up well the madness of the reality of today.
“Powerful imagery in the photo (above)…”
Same old same old destructive schmaltz: ugly, bad, square-cornered industrial urbanization v wispy lovely virginal beautiful maiden nature. Well, parts of nature are as hard edged, ruthless, nasty and ugly as anything modern warfare-based industrial capitalism can produce, and then some. Time to ditch the wiffly waffly New Age Gaia is love and harmony bullshit–the paradoxical Nietzschean triumph of wishy-washy God Is Love crap over the hard sole and complicit conniving wiliness of the Roman boot–and see nature in its unified wholeness, to be protected from hegemonic, financialized, civilized us in its entirety, if only to continue to experience its scattered times and places of higher life-form benificence rather than its vicious revenge and retribution on everything we have bred and wrought.
If you did your emotional feeling first – and allowed all that you feel to move through you, then you would be able to make your point without the angry dump. I feel you have a point but are losing it to your own reactive grievance. The rest of this is not personally to you but to the themes your post raised in me. The term ‘Nature’ can be and is used for so many ‘meanings’ that it becomes degraded by abuse – as is the way of all language divorced from direct experience of its territory or domain. Beauty or joy of transcendence becomes associated with the image and conditions of its occasion – and such image and form become ‘currency’ of reference that becomes then a groupthink identity and the masking for manipulative intent – of seeming to have or be worthy, justified or natural. Transcending conditional lures… Read more »
A peaceful breath of fresh air, binra, in the midst of the minor chord fugue playing in the comments above.Read Caitlin Johnston ICH: 2020 Is Going To Get Much Crazier. Prioritize Your Mental Health informationclearinhouse.info/52955.htm
Yes, Caitlin also reads ‘outer’ effects to ‘inner’ causes. Thanks for the links – I’ll take a look.
Better to paste links – you missed the g!
http://informationclearinghouse.info/52955.htm
“I feel you have a point but are losing it to your own reactive grievance.
The rest of this is not personally to you but to the themes your post raised in me.”
OK, then I feel I’ll skip them.
Except to say that your self-professed contact with your inner self, which seems–BICBW–to lead you to wild presumptions about others’ perceptions of their own inner selves, could be seen by at least some of those others as manipulatively offensive.
Right, I’m off. Gotta see a man about a dog.
And also, nature isn’t ‘out there’. There is no division between humanity and nature. There is only nature and thus nothing that is not natural. Cities, shopping malls and motorways are as natural as rain forests, the moon and deserts. Sickness, error and catastrophe are facets of nature because everything is. Short-term, greedy, erroneous thinking are facets of nature because everything is. To say humanity’s enterprise, creations and imagination – however unwisely applied – are somehow unnatural is rooted in the very anthropocentric hubris the environmental movement wants to end. What is needed is the decentering of humanity, a post-anthropocentric change of course towards seeing “nature in its unified wholeness”, a wholeness that is nothing less than All That Is.
And I say all this as someone wholly committed to wise, patient, long-term thinking that seeks to humbly serve biodiversity in all its glorious, messy richness.
In recognition of the inner and outer as one, I may say that any active and invested belief in the split of unrecognised and excluded, discarded and ‘externalised’ Self or Nature gives rise to an ‘unnatural’ framing definition that denies its wholeness or natural fulfilment as the drive to GET it from others or from outside – rather than extend wholeness and share in its reflections and resonances. As an experience of lack seeking fulfilment rather than resting or balancing within All That is – as it is (arising as experience). It can be said that even ‘unnatural’ deceits or self-illusions that conflict and divide the mind of purpose. attention and acceptance are within our natural imaginative capacity – but that doesn’t make them true, and so would they not belong to ‘All That Isn’t’? The belief in ‘out there’ is the self and world we (generally) take to be… Read more »
My response is to muse, as I have many times, on what constitutes existence. You reason that deception and deceit ought to be considered part of All That Isn’t. I find myself wanting to disagree. Deceptions are real to the degree that they exist. Change is the only constant, so to qualify for existence a ‘thing’ need not be durable or somehow 100% ‘real’, it need merely to have happened in some way. I cannot agree with the notion that there is a True Reality as distinct from various ‘inaccurate’ or ‘illusory’ realities except, perhaps, as a summation of all experiencing as it continually evolves. But the subsets of the summed superset must be ‘real’ for the superset to be ‘real’. The superset thus necessarily includes, in an ever changing way, ‘erroneous’ perceptions/interpretations. ‘Erroneous’ interpretations are still necessarily interpretations and thus information. There is nothing more real than information. Where… Read more »
Surely Existence only Is . That is its (timeless) Universal quality or attribute. It has no other. One can state this as ‘I Am That I Am’ (A Name of God) or as you did, in stating there IS no separation (from the nature of Is). But there is seeming to be, as a result of self-definition by which to experience the ‘reality’ of our extended thought – as World or Universe. Thus ‘I am human’ or ‘I am alive’ ‘I am here’ I am typing’ are limiting and excluding definitions by which to focus through thought and open or unfold and share in the experience it brings. The downside of habitual focus is the discarded background or context and the identification in our self-image becomes similar to identity in a screen persona – excepting on the screen of our consciousness – as a frame or lens of interpretation. Deceit… Read more »
We appear to be talking past each other, but I can’t quite tell. Truth then is not in the realm of phenomenal change but in recognition of transparency to Is or Being – which is formless and yet gives rise to forms. I believe I disagree with this, and with your general thrust that – as I understand you – draws a distinction between Being as an unchanging and eternal ‘something’ on the one hand, and ever changing (illusory, transitory) phenomena on the other. I don’t see it that way. I see the latter contained in the former, one formulation of which is evolution. When I say evolution here and above, I don’t mean of life on earth, but evolution of consciousness, which includes life on earth and everything else. Consciousness is All That Is, in my view. That Is or Being may be “formless” – which I don’t agree… Read more »
Yes its impossible to talk such things without common experience via verbal concept – without getting the wrong end of the stick. Concepts divide and rule-set a realm of division. Our predicate is that there is nothing really separated and existing in and of itself – but there is a way to believe and perceive it so. The ego sense of self in image and form and can be seen as a ‘love of form’ or acceptance of form as if Reality as opposed to the recognition of life through the form. This is the core ‘separation’ fallacy – that things are meanings in themselves. When in truth everything has all the meaning you give it. Love’s Meaning is unconflicted – but much more than this is that love automatically or naturally radiates of extends (gives’ itself) to All That Is – and meets the resonant reflection as ‘knowing its… Read more »
“> Truth then is not in the realm > of phenomenal change but in recognition > of transparency to Is or Being – which is > formless and yet gives rise to forms. I believe I disagree with this, and with your general thrust that – as I understand you – draws a distinction between Being as an unchanging and eternal ‘something’ on the one hand, and ever changing (illusory, transitory) phenomena on the other. I don’t see it that way.” Nor have various other perceptions outside of the Abrahamic. “I see the latter contained in the former, one formulation of which is evolution. When I say evolution here and above, I don’t mean of life on earth, but evolution of consciousness, which includes life on earth and everything else. Consciousness is All That Is, in my view.” To the objection that humanity has evolved beyond the concept of God,… Read more »
I’m not irritated. Though, as a phrase, I’m quite fond of “opiate outpourings”. “Nor have various other perceptions outside of the Abrahamic.” I’m not sure which you might mean, as my shallow sense of the philosophies of e.g., Hinduism, Buddhism and Zen seem to postulate such an ‘eye of the storm’, unchanging stillness at the heart of All That Is. My disagreement is with placing this stillness on a pedestal, as it were, plus some logical issues I have with things like infinity and timelessness. What is Love? That is indeed the question. To begin with the capital L: it’s a convention to distinguish Love (unconditional, adult, grown up) from love (romantic, immature, insecure). However, love is unconditional or it isn’t love. Romantic love is just a window onto love proper, a prelude. But because we don’t have two words for the job, a capital L quickly suffices. As for… Read more »
These Green business types were gathering at Davos recently: it is also a new ploy to save the Greenback.
The US dollar is held up by Sunni Arab oil & gas reserves plus the US stock market. The latter is on life support of QExx by the FED: bottomless printing. https://www.keiserreport.com/
The US dollar is controlled by that group yeshiva, the Federal Reserve, a concatenation of a dozen or so private banks, nearly all controlled by elite Jewish interests. You should be proud, Antsie, and brag of your tribal power.
Hallelujah.
Finally something to smack, my sjw xr Greta goddess worshiping, Assange is rapist, Corbyn is judaeo phobic, believing friends, around the heads with a dead fish.
Carbon credits were on the Chicago exchanges and made a few people very rich.
Credit default swaps made the banks too big to fail.
95% of humans got screwed everytime.
Maybe with the collapse of empire and rise of the new one it may yet fail to launch.
Al Gore trousered a cool $500 million from the Chicago Climate Exchange before it folded. There’s a lot of money in saving the planet for the Global Warming Brigade.
Just leave the little people to pick up the bill.
That, if it happened, doesn’t change the science.
This simply illustrates yet again that the neo-liberal capitalist system is just neo-feudalism. The aim of this end-stage shifting of the antimacassars on the deck-chairs will be, as always, profit maximisation and neoplastic growth, precisely the opposite of what is required. I rather suspect, in fact strongly, that the global overlords intend destroying Nature, to eliminate the ‘useless eaters’, then they expect to be able to repair the devastation with high-tech means and methods, but without 90% or so of the present human population. My maxim is to think the worst of the ruling psychopaths, then sit back and be astounded as they exceed expectations.
“…shifting of the antimacassars on the deck-chairs…”
Very good. In fact, even better than.
Catte…. Thank you! Just had a look at the site Nodealfornature, and it looks the perfect antidote for those who are fawning at the feet of Greta Thunberg, who has just been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Obviously.
They are herding the masses like sheep to the slaughterhouse, and sadly, Greta Thunberg is yet another Trojan Horse for these evil bastards.
All with their eyes on Trillions $$$$.
Check out the documentary Banking On Nature (2015) to witness for yourselves the mindset of these Neoliberal zombies.
Nothing matters but making money. Of anything and everyone.
I don’t know when I first stumbled across Cory Morningstar and her Wrong Kind Of Green site, but when one spends ages on the internet looking for the truth of how our World operates, sooner or later you come across sites like Wrong Kind Of Green.
Appreciate your work also, and the links.
Yes-until Greta denounces the capitalist cancer consuming Life of Earth, she must be suspect. However, if she did, her denunciation would be covered up, and she would suddenly disappear from public view, like so many others.
It already happened: around Katowice …just over a year ago. Speculation was that Greta got talking to Kevin Anderson: and went on to denounce the ‘1%’. Then her Avaaz-type managers disappeared any such reference. She has gone off script a few times: most notably recently when she said they should all be ”put up against the wall”. Which was quickly rectified as a translation error. Apparently: she meant ”put under the spotlight”. I think she got it right first time.
Very interesting. Poor child.
Like Malala Yousafzai for example as she advocated socialism and criticised US imperialism and poverty? All the slightly to the Left of Hillary Luvvies dropped her like a hot potato. Funny how the Western ‘media’ literally disappeared her as well, aye. The same would also happen to Greta. As you say. I’m not questioning Greta’s sincerity, but the Neoliberal Sharks surrounding her don’t Really care about the environment. They only Care about the vast fortunes; maybe trillions to be made from this attempt at saving the Capitalist system itself. Why do you think there’s so much coverage in the mainstream media, and that the same celebrity zombies who were once falling over Malala are now falling over Greta. There’s a dark agenda behind the curtain, out of sight. There are so many gatekeepers out there Richard, But I trust what Cory Morningstar says. She does a huge amount of work… Read more »
Malala keeps wearing a headscarf although supposingly shot by Taliban. She never criticizes attacks on non Muslim girls in Pakistan, only in India.
She is a puppet for the Pakistani ISI.
More Islamophobic hatred drooling out of the resident Zionassty.
Which I chose not to answer – you did it for me…
I’m your burakumin Gezz-I clean up the shite that they fling at you, so you don’t need to.
Have you tried to access this site? I’m still waiting…
I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t under a DDoS attack by the evil ass clowns over at Silly Con Valley. This is how they go after actual grass roots movements as opposed to astro turf.
The UN obviously has become totally corrupt if they are embracing this neoliberalism as policy. Obviously they’ve been bought off by the got bucks elitists AKA 1% who consider themselves Masters of the Universe.
This R2P BS which is just colonialism by any other name tells one exactly where they’re are going or think they’re going.
They are using (very nice) videos as a background which makes webpage loading slow. Nice videos but they could have used still photos from these recordings to the same effect.
Recommended: To put the videos on separate pages to better showcase the talents of the photographer.
+1
The Establishment controlling oligopoly of the Western Empire actually lost control of global Finance & Central Fractional Reserve Banking cartels when they realized their misguided partisan zealotry led them to actually believe in the macroeconomic tripe that Dr. Alan Greenspan was feeding them en masse for decades on end as their “Maestro” of Central Banking & Wall Street asset inflation. Greenspan was their Finance demigod until Glass-Stealgall Act deregulation manifested nine years after Greenspan deregulated it with assistance from his elite peers in _The Committee to Save the World_ [see Time Mag] et al. If UN bureaucracy cannot rebuild the Western Empire of Fractional Reserve Banking with the pseudoscientific rehabilitative proactive stance of Carbon Sequestration & Climate Engineering they will have admit defeat in terms of control over Macroeconomic Finance & Macroprudential Policy as a governance tool to justify their top down controlling adhocracy. If you cannot accept the fact… Read more »
“Pseudoscientific climate change”? Do you think it isn’t changing, then? Have you been living for years in a deep coal mine? If so, try coming up and taking a look around, with prejudices on ice, and common-sense at maximum setting. (Sorry in advance if I’m misinterpreting you.:) )
Volcanic activity under Antarctica is melting the Antarctic Ice Shield. Geological activity is making certain that the temperature of Planet Earth is on a trajectory of likely & probable climate disaster worldwide due to the melting of the Antarctic Ice Shield & increasing global temperature. The old defunct elite of Finance are classic opportunists that have already brainstormed what they will do to continue controlling global Finance even if it means inventing causal connections to global climate so that they can commoditize the buy in for all populations. They are skilled enough in Experimental Psychology to know that they have to launch pseudoscientific ‘Climate Change’ as being a worldwide superordinate goal for all people and all governments. Global capture gives them their justification for neo-oligopoly & central banking renewal for a short time until even that blows up in their collectively dense brains for yet another synthetic form of central… Read more »
You cannot argue with a denialist. It is an article of their paranoid faith that science and reality are simply conspiracies, cooked up by the global overlords, to mysterious ends. That this obscurantist dogma is, in fact, itself a propaganda machine created by the overlords to protect capitalism and the tens of trillions in fossil fuel assets and the petrodollar in particular, is beyond their capacity to understand.
One aim of No Deal for Nature is pointing out how corporate interests have co-opted the Green movement. Inevitably this includes creating fake fear stories and simplified narratives in order to sell their phoney solutions. This means we can’t simply accept every aspect of the mainstream climatd narrative uncritically. It turns out the situation is nuanced and non-binary. Who knew.
This is not denialism!
To use the existence of the ruling capitalist powers to assert, without evidence, that climate science is fraudulent is a nonsensical position to take. Quite clearly the global overlords have FAR more invested in fossil fuels, valued in the tens of trillions in assets, and which underpin the entire global financial system, and the US petro-dollar, the key to US economic hegemony, than they have in climate science and its consequences. Climate science can only be questioned, as it must be, by science and facts, not paranoid conspiracy goobledegook, most of it concocted by denialists paid for by the fossil fuel and Rightwing ideological interests. The denialists have come up with NO scientific rebuttals to the science, just assertions, like MOU’s that it is all ‘pseudoscience’ when it is not. As for capitalists exploiting the climate crisis-that is a given, but does not alter the basic scientific facts, facts that… Read more »
Geological time is much longer than the entire scientific & empirical era.
Climate Science is an oxymoron empirically speaking. Science is not old enough to grasp geologic time. Moreover, science has no frontal cortex and cannot plan or foresee the future. Science & technology is not even advanced enough to conduct quantum computing to the extent that a human being’s central nervous system can.
The edifice of empirical deduction & empirical scientific discovery is vastly inferior to myself, and others.
MOU
What happened in geological time, at periods like the End Permian and the PETM, tells us what will happen in the near future. Science tells us, with high confidence, that four of the previous mass extinction events were caused by ‘hot-house Earth’ conditions, caused by forcings of greenhouse gases into the troposphere, and the consequent derangement of the planet’s heat balance. And the current, anthropogenic, forcing is greater and more rapid that any of the others.
The original poster implied that the dramatic, exponential rise in ‘greenhouse gases’ was not a–or the–major factor in the melting of Antarctic ice sheets (“…em>inventing causal connections to global climate…”) and proposed instead the well-known but still, for Antarctica, very inadequately tested and modelled (and certainly not certain or even a likely possibility (only)) that the principle driver of that phenomenon is sub-surface vulcanism (“Volcanic activity under Antarctica is melting the Antarctic Ice Shield. Geological activity is making certain…)” And that, as yet, is denial. Denial followed by self-aggrandizing, half-cognized, barely absorbed, purely suppositionary, wildly over-asserted (and therefore) bullshit. MOU is the same pompously, self-important crap artist that he was when he first started posting and told us he sat at the conference tables of the high and mighty. That is before his veneer slipped and he turned out to be just another headbanger with inbuilt loudspeakers, rattling the stones… Read more »
I direct the conferences of global Finance from afar, man. I’m too cool to attend conferences of the lowly so-called ‘high & mighty’ as they are beneath me when it comes to epistemological understanding & knowhow of Macroeconomics, Quantum Physics, & Behavioural Finance.
You are merely talking shit as per usual, eh.
Worldwide capture of Finance is wholly my domain, and always has been.
There is only one MASTER OF UNIVERSE and I’m it.
MOU
“I direct the conferences of global Finance from afar, man. I’m too cool to attend conferences of the lowly so-called ‘high & mighty’ as they are beneath me when it comes to epistemological understanding & knowhow of Macroeconomics, Quantum Physics, & Behavioural Finance.”
I know. I just, until now, missed the telekinesis bit.
“You are merely talking shit as per usual, eh.”
‘From afar’ being from New Zealand?
“There is only one MASTER OF UNIVERSE and I’m it.”
There’s another one that I’d missed. I’d assumed (reasonably in my opinion) that it was ‘MASTER OF UNIV’ and that ‘MASTER OF UNIV’
was some sort of intern/apprentice. Sorry about that, but the book has seemed (does seem) to match the cover in it’s relative unimpressiveness.
Second that Admin! I say, as so often, approach it all with **open-minded** scepticism. The truth can be teased out, mostly, though with some uncertainties which just have to be endured. It’s doable!
Of course climates change constantly over time: thirty years is a second on the Geological clock. The rest of Nature also is not frozen: constant evolutions and sometimes extinctions.
It is exactly denial-ism to believe the opposite.
I suppose it rather goes against the Talmud’s assurance that the world belongs to your tribe, to the detriment of all the other Moabites, Midianites, Jebusites, Palestinians and the rest, to see all that lovely property crumbling before your eyes. Perhaps God doesn’t exist after all, and your supremacist delusions are just ancient pipe-dreams.
“Of course climates change constantly over time: thirty years is a second on the Geological clock.”
So how many ticks and how much change in hominid-sustaning parameters since hominids emerged to need sustenance? Since mammals in general predominated?
Global Warming is the newest fastest growing quack religion, like Scientology or the Moonies or the Reverend Jim Jones.
There are even websites where you can “confess” your global warming “sins” and seek absolution after a suitable penance that usually involves giving global warming scam artists your money.
What gives the game away (IMO), is the way that no one is allowed to question any part of the Climate Alarmist story. If you do, you are not treated like a healthy sceptic (and all scientists should be sceptics), you are treated like a religious heretic. You have offended the great Goddess Gaia, and her priestess St Greta, and the ancient prophet D’v’d ‘ttnb’r’gh (blessed be he). One reason why scientists must be sceptics is that their fellow scientists are only human, as are they themselves. It’s very easy to “get married to your theory” and do all to protect it. This is why before papers are published, they are sent out for “peer review”, so that in theory, new theories can be critically and impartially examined, before publication is allowed. Unfortunately, there are all sorts of problems with what “peer review” has become, and even mainstream science is… Read more »
It was the US National Academy of Sciences that declared anthropogenic climate destabilisation ‘settled science’. If forced to choose between that august body (and ALL the other Academies of Science and scientific societies on Earth, without exception)and denialists, I find it any easy choice.
Q.1 – Yep. Q.2 – Yep. Q.3 – Nope.
Still waiting for the New Ice Age “all the scientists” were promising us years ago.
As I have pointed out before, ‘all the scientists’ were NEVER promising a New Ice Age. A few were, but even then, forty years ago, they were greatly outnumbered those predicting a warming. Even the oil companies knew it at the time, as did LBJ who lectured the Congress on the dangers, in 1965.