Coronavirus: finding the ambiguous reality behind the fear porn headlines
Catte Black
According to the World Health Organisation the latest viral panic – the infamous allegedly ‘new’ coronavirus is ‘stabilising‘, at least a little (see also MoA), though you wouldn’t think so from the fear porn currently being pumped out of every media orifice 24/7.
Today, even though signs are the panic is ebbing in China, the UK has claimed it has 8 cases of this new coronavirus and is declaring, on this basis, a “serious and imminent threat to public health”, which – oh goodness – allows BoJo and chums to assume “additional powers to fight the spread of disease”, including powers to “detain people suspected of having the virus”.
This, let me remind you, because 8 – eight – people have allegedly been identified as carrying the virus.
A virus with a mortality rate of around 2%.
Whatever its reality level, whether it’s a new mutation, a manmade death-bug or a largely invented meme, the alleged Wuhan virus has clearly been hyped for its control/fear potential virtually from day one. Whatever else you take away from it, be assured you are supposed to be afraid.
Very very afraid.
This story is being given a free plausibility pass by many in the alt media simply because it originates from a non-western source. There’s apparently a touchingly naive belief that the elites in China would never ally with their counterparts in the West, or use fear as an intimidation technique – just because.
Nonsense of course. Elites everywhere will use any weapons they have to enforce control. They always have and they always will. We are not justified in overlooking potential agenda with this narrative simply because it originates in China and is reported on by Chinese outlets. Chinese elites understand the value of fear porn too, and Chinese media outlets can also be agenda-bound. And on a broader consideration, Chinese people can panic and overreact. Because they are human.
An additional factor dissuading people from examining this critically is largely faith-based. Because this is medicine, and therefore science and therefore the magic/religion of our age, people tend to believe wholesale any ‘fact’ presented them, even third hand, by the practitioners of this alchemy. We rarely subject such claims to scrutiny.
But let’s not be deterred by such things. Let’s look below the surface of this pervasive narrative. At least a little.
the story
In south-east China in early December 2019, people were presenting with symptoms that were indistinguishable from influenza or gastroenteritis. However for some reason (it is very hard to find out what that reason was) suspicions were allegedly aroused that these people were not just suffering from flu, even though they certainly appeared to be, and steps were quickly taken to isolate a potential new pathogen.
By mid-January, less than six weeks later, a potential new pathogen was indeed found, and DNA sequenced. Almost immediately, even though proven cases at that time numbered in mere tens and we had a mortality rate of maximum 3%, Wuhan and other Chinese cities were placed on lockdown and the fear began pumping out.
Images of people allegedly ‘dying in the street’ from this new flu began appearing on social media and news channels. We were treated to shaky video of Chinese people wearing decorating overalls and paper masks, and told they were in ‘hazmat suits’. Images of Wuhan looking like a ghost town were broadcast to the world.
And the numbers grew. Until it was now.
There are currently alleged to be around 41,000 cases of the ‘new’ virus worldwide. The vast majority of them – over 40,000 – in China.
The mortality rate is apparently holding steady at around 2.2%.
What we don’t know is how reliable these figures are. Or even how they are arrived at.
some basic questions
Has every single one of the 41,000 ‘confirmed’ cases have been tested and the virus isolated? If not, what does ‘confirmed’ mean?
Given that symptoms of the ‘new’ virus are identical to those of severe flu and bacterial/viral pneumonia, it can’t be distinguished from them by simple clinical observation, so ‘confirmation’ by any route except viral isolation would throw up enormous numbers of false positives, correct?
In the current climate if a person presents at a hospital in China with severe flu symptoms – fever, respiratory infection, cough – the staff are probably going to play it safe and assume it’s the ‘new’ scare virus, no? Do these unfortunates get included in ‘confirmed’ cases or not?
It would be nice to see a non-hysterical discussion of that question would it not?
Again, how is the test for this virus performed? Are they finding virus or antibodies? Is it reliable? Does the presence of the virus equate with a load sufficient to cause symptoms?
After all coronaviruses are very very common. We all carry antibodies to numerous strains of them. If antibodies to the ‘new’ strain are present, does this indicate current active infection or past infection and immunity?
What about people who may have acquired immunity to the ‘new’ virus, and present with regular but severe flu? If they are tested they will show antibodies and will become listed as current ‘active’ cases, even though they aren’t.
A lot depends on how new the ‘new’ strain really is. There are literally thousands of viral mutations happening all the time. We can’t keep track of them all. What may be a ‘new’ viral strain in terms of clinical awareness may, in fact, have been widely present but undetected in the population. When you look you may find many many individuals with antibodies to this strain, that you may categorise falsely as signs of new and active disease.
Again, these issues and ambiguities in the process of pathogen identification are nowhere addressed, and we are given mere factoids, statements of ‘truth’ from on high that the numbers are real and unquestionable.
Jon Rappoport remains one of the few alternative voices prepared to express any kind of organised scepticism about the current panic. He may not always get it right, but the mere fact he is almost a lone voice means we should pay some attention, just in pursuance of balance.
His latest blog points out the overlooked difficulties with arriving at clear figures for pathogen infection and distribution. It’s worth reading for this alone.
He points out, citing this source that there are between 2.8million and 17million deaths in China per year from pneumonia. This looks like an alarming figure. And it means that, even without any ‘new’ virus strain, hospitals in China would be seeing many cases of respiratory infection/distress every day. The potential for some or all of these sufferers to become statistics in a ‘new virus’ panic is clearly there, and doesn’t require any ‘conspiracy theory’ beyond ordinary human panic.
He also makes the slightly more sinister point –
If you’re beginning to think it’s easy to declare an epidemic and broadcast propaganda about it, you’re right. Take a conventional set of symptoms present in people all over the world, claim a new virus is causing them, and you’re off and running. You can report 500 or 1000 deaths from this virus and people will believe whatever you say or do next. They won’t realize that this set of symptoms has been present in millions and millions of people, for decades or centuries, without the new virus. They won’t realize millions of people have already died without the “new virus.”
As I’ve pointed out above, this is quite true. Even without any intent to create a ‘fake’ pandemic it’s more than possible to achieve it simply by being too inclusive. Without much more information about how this ‘new’ virus was identified and how its prevalence is being monitored, it remains more than possible that its presence is being exaggerated. And that’s not even factoring in the potential for governments and NGOs to wilfully distort information in order to instill panic.
Let’s clarify. We aren’t claiming the ‘new’ coronavirus strain isn’t new. We aren’t claiming it isn’t dangerous. We aren’t claiming it hasn’t infected 41,000 people and isn’t capable of producing a global pandemic that threatens humanity.
All these things are possible. Of course they are. But few to none are currently proven. All we have are statements, allegations, all couched inside obvious panic narratives that ought to make us wary. And from actors with track records of deception, or at very least gross over-reaction.
Until we have something a lot more solid – let’s remember that fear is a universal weapon and that government narratives always need to be questioned – wherever they originate.
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Very good, thoughtful, intelligent and sane article !
Thank you Catte.
I had very similar thoughts on this subject.
God protects us from this fear porn exposure of matrix media…;-)
Greetings from southern France,
Ray
All of Jon Rappaport’s blog articles are worth reading about this alleged coronavirus outbreak that Catte Black’s article also refers to.
Jon gets most of his info from Perth Group and is basically trying to get the same points across about the coronavirus that were made in relation to HIV that remains unproven as the cause of AIDS- and he’s no longer on his own on that one too! You might be interested in checking the Perth Group’s position on virus isolation etc.
Regards,
Tony
Hi Rhys thanks for your reply, and thanks also for your advice. But what basic scientific education are you referring to here when it comes to proving the physical existence of alleged ‘pathogenic viruses’ and their ‘adaptation’-the ‘scientific method’ perhaps? For your information I do have a science background and also know what its limitations are as well as my own. If you would like to debate the pros and cons of the scientific method I’d be glad to take you on.
If you have read my other posts (which I cannot claim that you have) you may have realized by now that the monocausal germ theory of Pasteur which is still in vogue is seriously flawed along with the theory of viruses as disease agents. But that doesn’t seem to make much difference does it, because the same ole stuff on viruses, their alleged genetic sequences, mutations, jumping genes, etc. and how they are somehow alleged to be THE cause disease is being pumped out in the journals every day by spell –bound virologists. No wonder why nobody questions it. Maybe the virologists need to go back to a basic scientific education and start challenging some of their own dogma instead!
Firstly, if according the majority of mainstream virologists and microbiologists, viruses are nothing more than lifeless bits of RNA or DNA with a protein coat which sometimes include lipids. If that’s the case then how are they supposed to ‘adapt’? As far as I am aware, there is no evidence of virus evolution in the fossil record, but I could be wrong, and evolutionary Darwinism itself is a dogma –an established opinion but not scientific fact, but that’s not the issue here is it? And no, I’m not a creationist either.
Secondly, virology implies that the genome of an RNA virus cannot ‘adapt’ or ‘mutate’ on its own independently of the conditions in which it finds itself – IT CANNOT DO anything because a living susceptible cell is required and also the extracellular environment which also has to do everything for the virus so we are told. Thus in the real world, lifeless viruses that are allegedly ‘pathogenic’ cannot ‘fool’, ‘hijack’, ‘take over’, ‘direct’ or ‘adapt’ to the cell’s machinery as they neither possess, nor are they in control of, ALL the means and conditions that would allow them to do that. In other words, they have to confront numerous and variable conditions in the human body that they have no control over whatsoever and after that it’s all ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ and speculation.
The problem is, precisely how the extracellular matrix and fluid with all its defences and filters, and how a cell and all of its machinery and its defences are CONSTRAINED to conform on entry (if it ever manages to happen) to the virus and its viral code, and then to do EVERTHING for that virus and allow it to ‘direct’ the cell machinery in question to replicate new virus particles. The body as a whole is extremely complex and is ALIVE unlike a virus as defined by virology, and things are for more complex than what you are trying to make out. And I’ve only just started on the problem.
Moreover, viruses also have no energy of their own at their DISPOSAL as they have no means of producing any ATP, so again, how are they supposed to act in order to ‘adapt’ and ‘direct’ the cell to replicate them?? How can a lifeless bunch of inert chemicals ‘adapt’ ITSELF by mutation or even chemically without help from something else? If the cell is responsible for virus adaptation and mutation then the virus itself does not ‘adapt’ – it is ‘adapted’ by the cell or cells in the host body. But that cannot happen initially without the help of the living extracellular environment and all of it’s defences which viruses can also allegedly ‘fool’ (or so we are told) by disguising themselves appropriately according to virology–do you see the contradiction here and how ridiculous the situation is? Perhaps not!
Thirdly, show me any detailed scientific papers that conclusively and repeatedly demonstrate that flu vaccines actually work (independently funded of course) – because when the vaccines don’t work you say it’s down to ‘virus adaptation’ and ‘mutation’ – that sounds like a good ‘get out’ for saving the pharma cartel’s humongous profits with its flu vaccines push!
Finally Rhys, and you said it yourself in an earlier post, quote: “Actually a lot of ‘scientists’ take a lot of things at face value too” I would add most notably virologists and microbiologists do too – and that’s the problem they are afraid to ask too many valid scientific questions or they’re out of a job or worse.
You took that off.?
The virus causes male infertility and you hide that.?
You should have your cods kicked out.
I’m at a loss here White Horse. How is this virus that has never yet been proven to physically exist supposed to be THE cause of infertility? Are you sure its not something to do with the antiviral drugs they are dishing out to the victims or other factors? They do have vaccines for example that produce infertility in women and it doesn’t take much to concoct one for men too in the guise that its treating something else. Just like they did with Ethiopian women in Israel if you care to research that fact.
I looked at the bunch of references on pdf file that were listed but couldn’t find anything at first reading that’s relevant to causing infertility or to establishing virus isolation.
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/articles/coronavirus-(covid-19)-selected-bibliographic-references-18-02-2020-v1.pdf?sfvrsn=c8b8baa5_0
To summarize the situation so far for anyone who is still interested.
I keep repeating stuff because it takes a while for the penny to eventually drop, and for all our sakes I really hope that it does.
I think it would be reasonable to conclude from all that‘s been reported so far on this thread , that the mainstream virologists and microbiologists have a consensus view and standard model of how they IMAGINE pathogenic viruses are supposed to cause infection, like the alleged coronavirus and its so-called ‘strains’. This is also unwittingly reflected in their inability and failure to publish all the precise step-by-step details of how these alleged viruses have actually been effectively isolated and been proven to cause a disease let alone a COVID-19 ‘pandemic’ (if you can even call it that).
In truth, the blunder is there for all to see in the research published in the so-called peer-reviewed scientific journals. They simply take virus isolation for granted as a fait accompli (a very big mistake) and that this alleged coronavirus has already been identified and isolated as THE SINGLE CAUSE of the mystery pandemic named COVID-19 (another very big mistake) when that is NOT the case at all as the true CAUSES of this disease still remain an unproven mystery. It is also bad scientific practice so far.
Put it this way, if there is no problem and it’s true that this pathogenic virus really does exist then why not publish all the scientific details and do repeated studies proving the fact?
True, many scientific papers have been published to date but none have conclusively proved the case, because they CANNOT using methods that were not intended to do that. So why are they still using them repeatedly???
Unfortunately, the coronavirus and COVID-19 have now become a consensus reality and a consensus view among scientists, politicians, medical staff and the general public –so it’s made “official”. Unfortunately, the uninitiated actually believe it and have swallowed the bait, hook, line and sinker. So be it!
However, one needs to point out that even if an ‘association’ is proven, it is NOT a CAUSAL RELATION, and that applies EVEN IF a virus is found in samples taken from ‘infected’ patients and the samples are tested for antibodies or subject to PCR test methods as they DO NOT WORK for virus detection that way. Remember the quote from the CDC in one of my earlier posts.
The whole genome of the actual physical virus is required as the standard of comparison for testing, not bits and pieces of gene substance already in the body that could come from almost anywhere, and not some speculative computer generated model of what this alleged coronavirus is IMAGINED to look like – and there are now plenty of those pictures floating about on the internet and elsewhere that help reinforce the fear of catching the virus. A fearful population is also a suggestible population, and can also have a nocebo effect according to the “New Scientist” since “putting someone in a negative frame of mind has an adverse effect on their health or well-being”.
The nocebo effect is not just in the mind it has been proven to have real physical effects and some 151 scientific papers have now been written on it. The additional stress involved could be another potential causal factor in the increase of COVID-19 cases. Once certain people who are susceptible to the nocebo effect are told that a deadly virus is out there lurking , ready and waiting for them to ‘catch’ and other people are already ‘catching’ it – they also hear about the symptoms, and they may end up developing those symptoms too! It begins to spread like a forest fire. Who really knows, but the nocebo effect is now claimed to be a scientific fact! As I have already indicated elsewhere, there are many potential causal factors involved in so-called COVID-19 and the involvement of a pathogenic coronavirus remains undetermined and as yet unproven.
I believe the Corona virus hype has nothing to do with any public health concerns,
but everything with manipulating public opinion by ‘subtly’ (?) creating an association
between ‘deadly virus’ and ‘China’.
(Our Masters are experts at hijacking our language)
Hi Alex,
On ITN News this evening a spokesman was produced from out of the woodwork claiming that outbreaks elsewhere in the world were nothing to do with China.
But as you imply the damage is already done and an “association” has indeed been made between China and this alleged ‘deadly virus’ in the minds of the public. This “association” is reflected locally and is affecting some Chinese businesses such as chippies and restaurants due to the fear of ‘catching’ the virus and disease.
In my next post which I hope you will read, I will say more about how dangerous such “associations” can be- particularly where this alleged mysterious virus is concerned.
Regards,
Tony
That is part of the ongoing, unceasing, ever deepening, hate campaign against China in the Western MSM sewer. Did anyone really think that the White, Western, Judeo-Christian “gods Upon the Earth’ would ever allow a group of mere Asiatics rise to global hegemony, or even parity?
Friends, if I may I would like to address some further issues with regard to the article Coronavirus: finding the ambiguous reality behind the fear porn headlines.
The first point I wish to make relates to the question of ‘reality’ (whether ambiguous or otherwise) and what actually constitutes that ‘reality’. Well, to answer that question one has to know at least something about philosophy, psychoanalysis, sociology, ideology and political science.
If you happen to walk into a wall or someone suddenly bangs you on the head you may be said to have an encounter with the Real but that’s as far as it goes according to psychoanalysis. That is because the Real lies beyond signification and the symbolic order of language which means that you can describe your encounter with ‘it’ but there is always something missing from it that your words can never capture or express and that is the Real. That’s one of the reasons why the sciences have been called ‘conjectural sciences’ by the French analyst Jacques Lacan -they can never capture or grasp the Real and are therefore the objects and phenomena investigated in and by the sciences are at best based on a ‘consensus reality’ involving a subjective agreement between a community of scientists.
The Real is also that which makes the Imaginary and Symbolic orders possible and they all interact and are interdependent to form this consensus ‘reality’. A disruption in one of the orders creates problems in the others and a form of neurosis or psychosis may result. The sciences only deal with half-truths if that; as they try to achieve ‘objectivity’ by pretending that the subjectivity of the scientist can be eliminated and what they come up with in their work are not much more than conjectures.
At a more mundane level, Ideology and the ideological apparatuses (IAs), play a big part in the determination of our consensus reality – the reality which is generally agreed to be ‘reality’ including the somewhat “ambiguous realty” of and behind the Coronavirus outbreak for example, based on some sort of consensus view of the scientists, the politicians, the MSM and the public. Some of the IAs are either controlled or supported by the state and include state and private education, the family, trade unions, the different religious institutions including the churches, the medical apparatus and some of its mainstream science, political system, the communications apparatus (MSM), TV, Internet, newspapers, magazines, cell phone network, the legal apparatus the cultural apparatus and other sources of information and disinformation.
The problem is, not everybody agrees and see things eye to eye as they do not share the consensus view of the ‘reality’ which these IAs are constructing for us and pumping out. There are many contradictions in what is being stated about the alleged ‘virus pandemic’ by some of these IAs, as some people have already well cottoned onto. However, in the last resort the IAs are ultimately backed by the repressive state apparatuses – the military, courts, police, prisons, etc. and these will be brought to bear if or when things really get out of hand.
I think that ‘conjectural science’ is just a tautology, and is expressed in the basic scientific principle of falsifiability. Of course ‘consensus reality’ may prove not fully congruent with ‘real’ reality, but it is the best process we have to make ever better approximations to that reality. What else can we rely on-religious dogma, capitalist disinformation or egotistic assertion?
I agree Richard ‘conjectural science’ is the best we have at the moment -the problem is who controls it and to what ends it is being manipulated. Even conjectural science is open to disinformation as pet theories like germ theory which Bechamp refuted long ago are still being upheld no matter what!
Do us all a favor and stop posting your erudite BS.
‘https://th.thgim.com/news/national/d111hf/article28713054.ece/alternates/FREE_435/MODI-TRUMP’
India is bankrupt. India pharmaceutical drug labs is where US Big Pharma contracts to have their 5x 10x 50x 100x more expensive meds manufactured, the same as Campbell’s has their chicken soup cooked up in China from dumped US chicken parts, then irradiated and shipped back to USA to stock food shelves.
We live in a hydra of interlocking Autocrat Corporations and Finance Banks, just like the Middle Ages.
Now comes H.R.4710, introduced into US Congress the same week the Trump-China trade deal failed. H.R. 4710 will ban affordable imported drugs. H.R.4710 will create a $Bs MONOPOLY for US Big Pharma, and their India contract drug labs. There’s your context for the picture linked above. The US and India megaliths are climbing into bed together. Everything is being outsourced to India now.
Wait, it gets better!
H.R.4710 creates a new Pentagon Affordable Drug Interdiction Taskforce, one that will put Gramma and Grampa on a National Security No-Fly List, if they attempt to flee to Canada or Mexico for their life saving meds, for life-saving affordable surgery, or for dental work not available in MediCare. See you in Heaven, Gramma! Sorry….
The reality? It’s a clear and present Corporate:Finance Media Hysteria attack on the Worker Population, while for the hoi polloi, it’s just another of the many 21stC bio-weapon diseases that will ail us. Stay safe!
‘https://media.breitbart.com/media/2020/01/GettyImages-1197571071-640×436.jpg’
A ruling oligarchy that HATES the serfs.
Oh dear it seems the Europeans and Yanks and Australasians are keen to get this epidemic sooner rather than later.
Locking up lots of people on a ship where they inevitably cross infect instead of triaging them or moving onto a reasonable facility.
Now is the time of year when all these independent oldies, preschool young families and any number if backpackers and singleton travelers start returning fron their beaches of Asia.
I just got a text from my surgery suggesting anyone travelling back from a large numbet of countries don’t go to the surgery but call nhs!!!
SO no checks pre travel, in transit, on arrival or public transport but get home infecting as many as poss and then quarantine yourself – never mind infecting anyone in the house or shops or back at work or on more public transport!
Yup we got it under better control than these backward Chinese. NOT.
I expect a major crises in the next two months and a belated quarantine system. London is being set up for a lockdown along with other major conurbations across Europe.
Hope all these who get caught in the mayhem have adequate travel insurance, they may not be coming home for a while.
bernard at MoA seems to be catching up…
Hi Dungroanin, what is your take on how people become ‘infected’ other than by a new novel pathogenic coronavirus that has suddenly popped up and for which there is no conclusive scientific evidence ever proving that it actually physically exists let alone causes infection.
This supposed to be a discussion about finding the ambiguous reality behind the fear porn headlines yet there are still people who are taken in by the fear porn of germ theory and the official line that this new alleged virus is still the culprit. Like Darwinism it is only a THEORY that has now been rendered sacrosanct by the international medical establishment and the pharma cartel who are now developing a vaccine!!!. To question it is regarded as heresy!
Although germs do play a role in a disease process (and we are still alive because there are billions of them -all types both inside, on, and outside of our bodies!!) they are not THE cause of disease although it is made to APPEAR that way, but appearances can be deceiving. Why? Because diseases labelled as being ‘infections’ are always MULTI-CAUSAL and there are no single privileged causes including viruses or bacteria.
Most mainstream medical scientists take the lazy way out of selecting and blaming viruses or bacteria as the single cause of ‘infection’ by excluding everything else that is going on in the body and its interaction and exchanges with the environment because its too complex for them to figure out and would upset their germ theory. They love single causal explanations that are easy for everyone to follow and understand. What say you?
Tony – you ask how do people become infected?
Well – to say that it is the task of epidemiology to determine that. It is done in hidsight because we are not omniscient though the attempt’s are made ‘in silico’.
The science on this is fast. It is no doubt going to set a new paradigm- great.
Simply put as I understand it nocov19 seems to have the first human infection in early December 19 at the Wuhan market. No info I have seen identifies a patient zero yet – but it is certain that was ground zero by the spread from that spot.
There seems to have only been that single jump into humans at that spot and since then has been human to human, with whatever mutations. It
It seems likely spread by aerosol transmission mostly.
It is considered to be linked to a virus that is in fruit bats which in turn may be linked to Malaysian pangolins and even to Camels where Mers originated.
So what can I tell you?
The world catches ‘colds’ regularly;
We get flus too;
Bacterial infections are frequent;
Intensive animal farming creates conditions for mutations;
Food hygiene is getting worse because of it.
But since you are a keen follower and appreciate science here is the latest speculation by actual scientists working on it non stop.
http://virological.org/
Thanks for your reply and the references which as you say are “speculation” none of which give any specific details of how the virus was isolated or has been conclusively proven to be the cause of disease – the same with other viruses mentioned e.g. Lassa and Zika viruses.
The scientists can “work on it none stop” till the cows come home but it won’t make any difference until they publish a single paper showing every step by step detail of how they actually got the beef and proved conclusively by having the research repeated with the proper controls to show how it actually caused Covid-19. They are not going to do that!
If you have not already done so it might help if you read my other posts on antibody tests and PCR (oversimplified) that they are now using which do not detect virus. Bacteria by the way do participate in inflammatory processes such as in flu, pneumonia, colds and most things ending in “itis” i.e. cystitis, endocarditis, gastritis etc , which mainstream medicine refers to as ‘infection’ but is mainly the body’s defensive reaction to an accumulation of endogenous and exogenous toxic factors – but the viruses and bacteria are not THE single cause of the inflammation and neither are viruses which are in our cells anyway e.g. retroviruses. Usually viruses are blamed when the causes are either unknown are there is a combination that is difficult to determine or for other reasons.
Regards, Tony
You’ve never had impetigo on your bleeding hemorrhoids, have you, lol. I will grant you that the ‘Deadly Spanish Flu’ event was just ordinary Asian flu, contracted on a US military base, before troops were flown to Europe that had just gone through four years of trench warfare, bmobing, poisonings, crops destroyed, millions of starving refugees in food, medicine and energy austerity. That more of them didn’t die is a tribute to how strong the human spirit is.
What our school children should be taught is that Perpetual War is the cause of ‘Spanish Flu’, and all of the other rolling austerities bleeding out our Worker last life savings. At the rate that US National ‘Debt’ is growing, an onerous, odious and wholly illegal finance- and war-racketeering ‘debt’ laid onto Workers’ backs, by 2024 those Uber debts will exceed the total of all US Worker wealth. It’s quite obvious that Corporate:Finance is preparing a Great Die-Off.
How else would you set up 180,000,000 Workers to be Uber-slaughtered of their estates? Force them into mandatory health status apartheid and compulsory medical procedures. Take the ill and elderly, put them in Big Hospice, as unwitting drug experiment subjects. Whether you are aware of this, US Big Hospice takes all your medical decisions away from you. From that point on, Big Pharma pays Big Hospice to do drug interaction tests on you.
“The rest of the book … To Serve Man … it’s … it’s … a COOK BOOK!”
Hi Anton,
I agree with a lot you say in your reply particularly about the strength of the human spirit. But to mention anything to do with human spirituality nowadays is almost anathema and there are forces at work right now to eventually to get rid of all notions of it. You can observe how technology has become more and more sophisticated and has ‘taken over’ in a very short time and how smart phones and everything else they call ‘smart’ is gaining momentum, not only contributing to the erosion of social and personal relationships, but also degrading and robotizing humanity. Biologists today think we are nothing more than machines and our consciousness is simply an electrochemical secretion or epiphenomenon of the brain. Nobody care anymore.
We are now indeed facing the consequences of a massive debt problem as you imply – never seen before at this level in history, thanks to the bankers who print toilet paper and are allowed to get away with it – fiat currency backed by nothing and our corrupt politicians that the public elected go along with it. It’s all there in the paper I have already mentioned: “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars” which is said to represent the doctrine adopted by the Policy Committee of the Bilderburg Group during its first known meeting in 1954.Quote:
“They must resort to war to balance the account, because war ultimately is merely the act of destroying the creditor, and the politicians are the publicly hired hit men that justify the act to keep the responsibility and blood off the public conscience.
Since most of the general public will not exercise restraint, there are only two alternatives to reduce the economic inductance of the system.
1. Let the populace bludgeon each other to death in war, which will only result in a
total destruction of the living earth.
2. Take control of the world by the use of economic “silent weapons” in a form of
“quiet warfare” and reduce the economic inductance of the world to a safe level by
a process of benevolent slavery and genocide “.
The text goes on to say: “The latter option has been taken as the obviously better option. At this point it should be crystal clear to the reader why absolute secrecy about the silent weapons is necessary. The general public refuses to improve its own mentality and its faith in its fellow man. It has become a herd of proliferating barbarians, and, so to speak, a blight upon the face of the earth”.
The silent weapons now include the new quantum potential weapons, interferometers and other directed energy weapons that are ‘silent’ for the most part – one was used to irradiate the US Embassy in Moscow in the 1950s up until 1988 and three ambassadors died and many of the staff became ill as a result.
Regards,
Tony
Dear Friends, many people now are speculating and wondering if there will be a WWIII mainly because of the dire state of the global economy and the current events in China and in the world elsewhere.
WWIII is an entirely different scenario from that of WWI and WWII and is now already in its early second stage. It is perhaps a precursor version of what Dr Rudolph Steiner referred to as the “War of All Against All”- nation against nation, race against race, religion against religion, family against family and ego against ego.
Why is that?
Because, we are to blame and have allowed bad things and the actions of the people involved to take their course, and we now have to face the consequences of the early second stage of this war which is at present a relatively ‘silent war’ using silent weapons of diverse types. People will not really understand what’s happening to them or to each other and what’s being perpetrated upon them by forces, technologies and other means they know either next to nothing or very little about and will deny that they exist. Forces, and technologies etc that can work at many different strategic and tactical levels within and upon the human organism and also target the different levels of the social, political, military, economic, and ideological apparatuses of the different nation states. There is also no denying that conventional weapons are also being deployed even now, notably in wars with foreign powers that are not so ‘silent’ but as the situation develops there is a high probability that such weapons will eventually be phased out and ultimately be rendered obsolete by the new.
Warfare has and is being changed forever under our noses. Unfortunately, this as yet, on-going ‘silent’ war has not been recognised as happening by the majority of the world’s population, there are still many who remain sceptical and others who have begun to wake up to the fact, but there’s still a way to go, even though things now appear to be happening at an accelerated pace most notably now in China and some people are now beginning to ask questions and criticize reports in the MSM about the situation being caused by an alleged ‘pathogenic’ virus.
According to Lt Colonel Tom Bearden, and he should know if anybody does, that there are now lots of new ways to bring any nation to its knees, he remarks that:
“Some 10 nations or more now have LWIs [Longitudinal Wave Interferometers], and five have the QPs [Quantum Potential Weapons]. I’m still working on how many have the appalling negative EMP [Electromagnetic Pulse Weapons] weapons, but would estimate 6 or 7 nations have them in one stage or the other, either deployed or in at least advanced development. And in my estimation, the Yakuza [Japanese Mafia] will have them within three to five years if they have to build them themselves, and quicker if they can buy them from the Russians, Chinese, or???”
There is also a quantum potential disease induction weapon that would be quite capable of inducing COV-19 symptoms in individuals particularly with compromised immune systems – virus not required.
Note, the Chinese have these weapons too!
But what about other silent weapons that are being deployed?
Here’s a descriptive introduction to the original version of the silent weapon, taken from the paper “Silent Weapons for a Quiet War” available in pdf format. I read it years ago, but the war now underway includes new additional ‘silent’ energy weapons technology that Bearden mentioned :-
“Everything that is expected from an ordinary weapon is expected from a silent weapon by
its creators, but only in its own manner of functioning.
It shoots situations, instead of bullets; propelled by data processing, instead of chemical
reaction (explosion); originating from bits of data, instead of grains of gunpowder; from a
computer, instead of a gun; operated by a computer programmer, instead of a marksman; under the orders of a banking magnate, instead of a military general.
It makes no obvious explosive noises, causes no obvious physical or mental injuries, and does not obviously interfere with anyone’s daily social life. Yet it makes an unmistakable “noise,” causes unmistakable physical and mental damage, and unmistakably interferes with the daily social life, i.e., unmistakable to a trained observer, one who knows what to look for.
The public cannot comprehend this weapon, and therefore cannot believe that they are
being attacked and subdued by a weapon.
The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong, but that is because of the technical nature of the silent weapon, they cannot express their feeling in a rational way, or handle the problem with intelligence. Therefore, they do not know how to cry for help, and do not know how to associate with others to defend themselves against it.
When a silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts/adapts to its presence and
learns to tolerate its encroachment on their lives until the pressure (psychological via
economic) becomes too great and they crack up. Therefore, the silent weapon is a type of biological warfare. It attacks the vitality, options, and mobility of the individuals of a society by knowing, understanding, manipulating, and attacking their sources of natural and social energy, and their physical, mental, and emotional strengths and weaknesses”.
Well they’ve even tried staring at goats haven’t they Tony? And Telekinesis weapons are everywhere and exploding heads…
There was a silent weapon in the Beeb propaganda program the other night – actually looke quite noisey and dressed up like a Widdecombe!
It was even amplified by the Grauniad under cover of faux outrage.
“The BBC normalised racism last night, pure and simple” shouted Owen Jones – helping to spread the normalisation further.
Dungroanin,
Yep, they’re still staring at goats too, and telekinesis is spreading the deadly virus across the globe like wildfire since all microbiologists and virologists have that remarkable psychokinetic ability !! Ha!
Looks like the BBC has a psychic ability too in its bid to normalize racism as you say, but along with the other unspeakables for fear of offending someone. Multiculturalism and gender dysphoria are the catchwords of the day, while ‘virus’ – ‘infection’ – ‘spread’- ‘pandemic’- and ‘quarantine’, are all good terms for neurolinguistic programming.
Check this:
In the UK the Secretary of State has the power under the Health and Social Care Act 2008 to make “health protection regulations” (we are always being protected from something which usually means a loss of a bit more what little freedoms are left!) which include enforcing special requirements and restrictions, medical examinations, removal to, or detention in a hospital or other establishment (for a max of 28days), or isolation or quarantine (for a max of 28days). Also, the regulations require attendance at training or advice sessions, abstention from working or trading, providing information about the identity and location of other individuals. Providing information or answering questions about health or other circumstances, also, to undergo disinfection or decontamination and the wearing of protective clothing and one’s health monitored and reported.
Such regulations also include powers to create new offences and enable courts to order that anyone convicted of an offence under the regulations take or pay for any remedial action. To prevent the spread of infection or contamination, the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act allows magistrates to impose restrictions and requirements on individuals, premises, groups, and objects through orders, known as “Part 2A Orders”, which only councils can apply for.
The moral is, if you just happen to come down with something exhibiting similar symptoms to COVID-19 and that’s quite possible, but nothing to do with coronavirus infection per se what are you going to do if you test positive anyway their antibody tests or PCR?
Regards,
Tony
Tony l these powers are imaginary
They. Want you to believe that when you agreed to the End User Agreements that run to hundreds of clauses just so you could play with their app on your phone, that you have agreed to losing your liberty, wealth and freedom.
Let’s see them try.
Dungroanin
The powers are real under the Act and the “Part 2A Orders” as the UK government has already declared that the alleged coronavirus outbreak is “a serious and immanent threat to public health”. It also gives police the power to force people into mandatory isolation if they are deemed to be a risk in spreading the disease.
One must add that all the mainstream scientists still don’t have a clue as to how such a disease is actually spread – sure enough there’s speculation about the germ theory droplet and aerosol spread by coughing, sneezing and close contact, but that doesn’t always work, because hospital staff with all the protective gear in China have been coming down with the disease.
The Chinese scientists should have stuck to the traditional explanation of epidemics and pandemics and perhaps they would have come closer to a better explanation of the causal factors involved than the one being touted about a virus that nobody can yet prove to exist. As an afterthought, these so-called ‘scientists’ might as well use the term ‘virus’ to cover all the potential pathogenic factors involved then they might get a tad closer to a better scientific explanation of the disease!
Regards,
Tony
If the West does not soon find whites killed by Covid19, it is going to be a HUGE problem, for the world will wonder, and ask: Why is it that only non-whites are killed by Covid19 in the West? Does the virus discriminate? On the other hand, IF many whites in the West are killed by Corona, then
the same security measures as in China will be implemented in the West: quarantines, control zones and the withdrawal of countless of physical cash (money notes) in circulation.
If the West does NOT exercise these same security measures as in China, then it is also a HUGE problem for the world will wonder and ask: Why are these radical precautions – unprecedented in world history – in China needed while quarantines and withdrawal of cash are absent in the West !? Does the virus discriminate?
NB! Regardless of the real danger of the virus, if the virus is the cause, it is certain that:
(a) China HAS been put on a standstill and quarantined – WITHOUT PRECEDENCE in history
b) the broken global supply lines as a result, WILL hit us in the West within a few months
Something big is coming our way, not the least the severe disruption of global supply lines because of China’s production standstill because of this.
The other dangers are the introduction of:
* Biological Patriot Acts – Radical Precautions. Wuhan is the new 9/11.
* The restructuring of society during economic crisis combined with pandemic
* Dangerous possibly. Mandatory vaccinations (New vaccines will permanently alter your DNA ‘- Jon Rappoport)
* Acceptance of restriction of freedom of assembly, freedom of movement during Pandemic / infection risk
* Further loss of liberties, super-centralization of control, then
* Introduction of world currency (SDR) and cashless society in the wake of economic collapse. The criminalization of cash, Agenda 21/2030
There are at least 3 aspects of all this:
1) Freedoms – Additional Restrictions, Biological Patriot Acts, Supercentralization, Danger to Dissidents, etc.
2) The virological aspect that causes VS other potentially secretive causes (prions, chemical, etc,)
3) Economic domino effect globally in the supply chain
We know from Event 201, the Bill Gates Foundation, and other indicators that the super elite has had prior knowledge of the pandemic and Corona.
UPDATE 15. february: Nearly 10k Military Personnel From 110 Nations In Wuhan China Weeks Before Coronavirus Outbreak! https://youtu.be/p0DDXsPKGHw
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Important to consider also:
TWO YEARS AGO, february 2018 — Joe Imbriao WARNED about: https://youtu.be/oY5SReQ2Kqc
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* 5G Weaponry Will Induce INFLUENZA-VIRUS Symptoms To Force Mandatory Vaccinations (12:30) – (NB! Wuhan was stronghold of 5G test)
* Crash global economy (check -in the process)
* Depopulation
* Martial law (check – in the process, China is under de facto Martial Law)
* Curtail traveling (check – in the process)
* Eliminate cash worldwide (China has now OFFICIALLY started to quarantine CASH )
Se footnote [1] – potentially very deep rabbit hole!
As I also said from DAY ONE – cash can be declared a danger. voila:
China Quarantines Cash to Sanitize Old Bank Notes From Virus
Bloomberg News
15. februar 2020
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-15/china-quarantines-cash-to-sanitize-old-bank-notes-from-virus
Daily Mail 15. februar: China disinfects BANK NOTES and quarantines them for 14 days https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8006897/China-quarantines-BANK-NOTES-bid-stop-spread-coronavirus-death-toll-climbs-1-526.html
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Comment from forum: People who doubt that the Coronavirus is a big deal go on and on about how this is just a big PSYOP and scare tactic and nothing to worry about. Fucking hell, if they are quarantining millions of Chinese, disrupting world trade from China, spreading global pandemic fear to the masses, trying to push for a new vaccine to “cure” this, using this as a cover to kill Chinese dissidents or any other reason or combination of reasons, that is still a big fucking deal! Someone has managed to plunge most of the planet into pandemic mindset for whatever reason which means that there is still a big happening brewing on the horizon. They wouldn’t just push this shit for no reason, even if the virus itself was no more than a common flu. China is losing face in the eyes of the world and fear of disease is spreading around the planet. If this is just a PSYOP in motion, something is fucking happening man! There is still something ominous looming just around the corner here….
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Ultimately, the most important thing is; the liberation from the psychological virus, false dangerous beliefs, because it determines all subsequent actions or non-actions ……
The awakened are carriers of the psychological anti-virus in the long term in relation to current and future lies, not least the willingness to accept any. mandatory vaccines and restrictions in the future.
At least they will not believe the lies and official sources that many gullible unfortunately do.
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Here the water molecule in relation to 4G and oxygen in relation to 5G are mentioned again:
The need for speed has the consequence of going from moderate to severe health effects in record time. Note that 4G operates at 2.5 GHz or oscillates about 2.5 billion times per second.
This frequency mimics water molecules in your body, and was chosen specifically for broadcasting services and equipment under government license. This means that all company products must meet this frequency or be deemed illegal.
For what purpose is matching the human body’s frequency, you may ask, other than for weaponization? Good question. [….]
…Because 5G frequencies affect oxygen molecules, they affect all biological systems, including DNA, circadian rhythm, heart function, hormonal regulation, and immune system.
https://www.activistpost.com/2019/07/will-5gs-dramatic-problematic-health-issues-be-worth-humans-suffering-since-no-health-nor-environmental-safety-assessments-ever-have-been-undertaken-to-prove-non-thermal-radiofrequencies-cau.html
…and things like Magnetobiology are a parallel curriculum that most education-damaged doctors, biochemists, biologists, etc. are not aware of, because it is intentionally dimmed and kept out of the ordinary parrot curriculum for decades:
Magnetobiology: Underlying Physical Problems by Vladimir N. Binhi
You should read Health and Light: The Effects of Natural and Artificial Light on Man and Other Living Things by John Ott.
https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=173630
The maximum dielectric loss of water molecules begins at. 2.4 GHz
https://thefullertoninformer.com/cell-towers-and-wireless-microwave-emisissions/
IF THIS IS TRUE, IT’S ONE OF THE BACKBONES of Hi-Tech of The NEW WORLD ORDER’
Imbriano stated that 5G’s 60GHz bandwidth was selected for a specific reason, he thinks this reason may be to negatively affect the oxygen we breathe as part of a population control mechanism:
“60GHz is the frequency of oxygen molecule absorption. Oxygen molecules have electrons that they share with each other, oxygen is a diatomic molecule. What we breathe are two oxygen molecules stuck together with these electrons that they share.”
Imbriano appears to be correct, Oxygen is 98% energy absorbent at 60GHz. Oxygen absorption at 60GHz also severely limits wave range. They could have easily chosen any other wavelength and boosted travel distance, but instead opted for 60GHz, this has to be intentional. Graph source.
While at 60GHz the frequency is non-ionizing (doesn’t eliminate electrons), it appears to disproportionately affect diatomic oxygen’s electrons without having a full-blown ionizing effect.
Imbriano then stated that oxygen itself would be manipulated by 5G signals and made defective:
“When oxygen is hit with 60GHz waves, it affects the orbital properties of those shared electrons. It is those shared electrons that bind to the hemoglobin in our blood, that is a magnetic compound in our body, in our blood cells. Hemoglobin is a very complex magnetic compound, it is a ferromagnetic compound. When you alter, or interfere with the orbital spin properties of diatomic oxygen’s (O2) electrons – you interfere with the gaseous exchange in our lungs where the oxygen is absorbed into the bloodstream, and at the same time is being transported through our body carbon dioxide and water vapor is being expelled from our bloodstream, into our lungs and exhaled. They’re taking the axe to the trunk of the tree, oxygen is life. They’re going to be poisoning us with a frequency that affects the oxygen molecules and this is by design.”
“By their own admission they tell us that these emission don’t travel far, and that they don’t penetrate very well; and that requires that they locate these micro-cell antenna about every 500 feet in the cities – because the air in the atmosphere will absorb and block the frequencies (they want the air to do this). Why would they use that frequency if it doesn’t travel very far and there’s so many things that will interfere with the wave propagation? I’ll tell you why folks, it’s a weapon.”
https://thuleanindependent.wordpress.com/2018/04/17/5g-directed-energy-weapons-and-the-impact-of-electromagnetic-frequencies-on-human-biology/
5G might be a weapon – if this guy in the 2018 video – who is still light years ahead of anyone else’s info on 5G – is right, then it’s really TOTALLY crazy (false flag, financial breakdown will not occur until 5G is in place in that case ):
https://youtu.be/oY5SReQ2Kqc
https://thefullertoninformer.com/5g-dangers/
Is there a SARS or MERS vaccine? I saw that one attempt at creating a SARS vaccine only set the poor monkeys up for a cytokine storm when the vaccinated individuals encountered the SARS pathogen. I believe that the risks of a second infection with CoVid 19 precipitating a worse disease, as with a second infection of dengue fever, thanks to the antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) mechanism, is regarded as rather high. The US plainly put a lot of effort into concocting this bio-weapon.
Hi Richard, you might find this quote interesting from the CEPI website:
The MERS DNA vaccine candidate is being developed using Inovio’s DNA Medicines platform to deliver optimised synthetic antigenic genes into cells, where they are translated into protein antigens that activate an individual’s immune system to generate robust targeted T cell and antibody responses. Inovio’s immunotherapies function exclusively in vivo, and have generated an antigen-specific immune response against targeted diseases in all clinical trials to date.
No doubt this witche’s brew will produce a robust cytokine storm too and a few micro-stokes along the way with it when its up and running. Inovio Pharmaceuticals in San Diego have also received a grant of $9million to develop one fast for the alleged coronavirus.
Thank-you, Tony. This could be the inevitable great culling of the ‘useless eaters’, that the global parasitic elites so desire.
I created a meme, of a welcome mat that says Home of a Useful Eater. I figure that way we could at least die laughing.
The discussion is Coronavirus: finding the ambiguous reality behind the fear porn headlines
Let us hypothesize for arguments sake (my opinion for all its worth, is that it is highly unlikely) that a pathogenic coronavirus has now been successfully isolated and genetically engineered to use as a bioweapon on a target population in Wuhan by unknown perpetrator(s) and the said virus has somehow now spread elsewhere to other countries and held to be THE CAUSE of a disease now named ‘COVID-19’ which has now alleged to have developed into a viral pandemic.
In earlier posts I mentioned the Pasteur’s germ theory of disease (which was refuted by Bechamp) but nevertheless, and contrary to the evidence, has been adopted by the current international medical establishment and the pharma industry.
Germ theory per se is a monocausal theory, in other words a germ like a certain virus or a bacterium is alleged to be THE SINGLE CAUSE of a single disease. Well folks unfortunately, in reality and in practice in the physical world it does not work out that way. Why? Because you are in effect purposely selecting and assigning a causally privileged existential role to a virus by EXCLUDING or IGNORING a multitude of other potentially existing causal factors from the picture that can be operational at the same time – some of which provide the conditions on which any alleged virus may depend in order for it to be able to ‘replicate’.
Remember, according to virologists viruses can do nothing because they are inert chemicals and cannot act and they always depend on a variety of conditions (other than themselves) including susceptible host cells in order to replicate. The conditions for viral replication (infection) are therefore by no means easy to satisfy or to demonstrate scientifically without lapsing into some form of inconsistency and contradiction. Neither does it follow that testing a virus for its ‘pathogenicity’ in lab cultures or in animals necessarily works out that way in human hosts.
One of the reasons Pasteur’s Germ theory of disease was deliberately adopted and incorporated as an integral part the medical establishment’s ideology is because it’s easy to grasp by the public. But things are not so simple, here’s a partial list of other causal factors that in some COMBINATION have been known to be involved in the causal process of a disease – many of which could easily be combined causes of ‘COVID-19’ symptoms i.e. other than, or despite the fact that any single virus, or even a bacterium or fungus may also be found to be present and yet erroneously claimed to be THE causal culprit of the disease process.
The other factors mentioned may include :-
Vaccines, other undiagnosed health problems, air pollution and inhalation of chemical irritants, chemtrails, electromagnetic forms of pollution, food additives, microwaved foods, fear and suggestibility, nocebo effect, mind control, chemical agents used to purify drinking water, lifestyle choices and unhealthy habits i.e. alcohol, smoking, designer drugs, use and misuse of prescription drugs, oxidative and emotional stress, psychological issues, occupation and working environment issues, nutrient deficiencies, under eating, overeating, food intolerances, enzyme deficiencies, hormonal imbalance, poor constitution, adverse changes in the gut microbiome, heredity defects and genetic factors and disorders, defects in the body’s tissue repair and renewal capacities, tissue damage resulting from exposure to exogenous and endogenous toxins, exposure to carcinogens, or ionizing radiation, immune deficiencies and immune dysregulation, internal energy disturbances or dysfunction, excessive energy expenditure and depletion, poor lymph drainage, lack of exercise, changes in climate (excessive heat, wind, rain, cold and damp), solar activity, neglect, overcrowding and poor personal or social hygiene, obesity or underweight, physical and emotional abuse, low education, old age, sexual promiscuity, social, cultural, political and economic factors generating collective conflicts, fear and shocks, poverty, trauma, certain parasites, overwork, insufficient rest, synthetic air fresheners, insufficient sleep, insufficient sunshine, xenobiotics e.g. MSG, aspartame, some toxic hair dyes, fluoride in toothpaste or in tap water, aluminium in deodorants, heavy metals, silver amalgam tooth fillings, poor detoxification of xenobiotics including toxic metabolites of prescription and other drugs, plus other internal metabolic wastes etc via the liver, lungs, kidneys or skin.
Blaming a concocted virus or a bacterium is the easy way out ideologically and scientifically because it’s so simple when you say virus = disease!
The weird religious cult that is the centre of the ‘super-spreader’ outbreak in South Korea,caused by a ‘mad Aunty’, is, naturally, an apocalyptic, End Times, bunch of loonies, and guess where its first overseas branch was recently opened. Why Wuhan, where else?
Richard,
The Shincheonji or Church of Jesus, the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony, which certainly does appear to be a Korean cult , with the aim of creating ‘a new heaven on earth’ as that apparently is what Shincheonji means. But they start with breaking up families, so it would be hardly a heaven on earth.
Some cults have security services connections and deploy experimental mind control techniques – a prime example was Rev. Jim Jones who was a CIA operative and cult leader of the “Peoples Temple of the Disciples of Christ” which combined elements of christianity with communist and socialist ideology.
In “Jonestown” Guyana in 1978, which was a mind control experiment – over 900 people ended up dead due to drinking cyanide cocktails some politicians were bumped off too. Thirty nine members of another apocalyptic cult called “Heaven’s Gate” in the USA also met with the same fate due to ingesting a combination of apple sauce phenobarbital and vodka!
It is true that one female in the Shincheonji cult is now being blamed as an alleged “superspreader” of COVID-19 but that’s in South Korea not in Wuhan and there’s still no concrete proof of the cause of this disease by coronavirus in the usual microbiological sense of the term. My guess is there never will be. Why?
The latest, according to The Washington Post: “A research team led by renowned Chinese pulmonologist Zhong Nanshan had isolated live coronavirus strains in urine samples from infected patients, Zhao Jincun, a respiratory expert at the State Key Laboratory, told reporters in Guangdong on Saturday”.
There are no “live coronavirus strains” as I have stated several times the majority of microbiologists and virologists claim that viruses are lifeless inert chemicals –nothing more, nothing less. The rest who see a problem try to get out of it by postulating that they are ‘quasi-life forms’ that is, they only resemble a life form in some respects but are not a life form – but there is no in between it is ridiculous conjecture!
If anybody can supply the above named Chinese pulmologist’s paper claiming to have “isolated” the coronavirus strains in urine scientifically by the correct method I’d be overjoyed to read it. But I’ll bet it will never see the light of day with full step by step details with the proper controls and proving that the purified virus was and is indeed infectious and THE cause of the signs and symptoms of the disease in the patient’s cell cultures and also in cultures of uninfected cells or in animal models. It is now being claimed the people are becoming re-infected by this alleged virus now is the chance to prove it.
Could find no reference to the cult’s activity re: ‘the virus’ spreading in Wuhan if you find one please post it.
Regards,
Tony
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022418v1
The White Horse Plague just took a certified turn for the worst. As i have benn predicting the virus leaves its victims infertile.
Shove it Clickkd
Hi white horse, I have just read the interesting reference that you quoted in your post which states that:
The results indihave cate that ACE2 highly expresses in renal tubular cells, Leydig cells and cells in seminiferous ducts in testis. Therefore, virus might directly bind to such ACE2 positive cells and damage the kidney and testicular tissue of patients. Our results indicate that renal function evaluation and special care should be performed in 2019-nCoV patients during clinical work, because of the kidney damage caused by virus and antiviral drugs with certain renal toxicity.
This is not only science we’re being blinded with – it’s also wishful thinking and almost pure speculation. As I have stated in other posts according to microbiologists, cell receptors function on a ‘lock and key’ basis. However, this virus is alleged to be ‘pleomorphic’ that is, it can somehow miraculously change its shape and size (but it’s never specified how a lifeless virus can do that) which means that its ‘key’ won’t fit the ‘lock’ of ACE2 cell receptors which are not ‘pleomorphic’ (tough luck for the virus!!). Notice the quote says “virus MIGHT directly bind to such ACE2 positive cells and damage the kidney and testicular tissue” (in other words they haven’t a clue what virus does)… the quote then somehow slides into a statement of causal fact i.e. “because of the kidney damage caused by virus.”
Pigs might fly like this alleged virus too!
Wuhan coronavirus predicted in Dean Koontz’s 1981 novel ‘The Eyes of Darkness
Quote:
“The Eyes of Darkness mentions a Chinese military lab outside of the city of Wuhan, where a deadly virus is invented as part of the country’s biological weapons warfare programme. Owing to the lab’s location, the virus is named ‘Wuhan-400’.”
The lab, Level 4, outside Wuhan, is not a military establishment. Think AMRIID.
It’s a novel of fiction.
Latest numvers from Global Times
06:49 am Feb 18
Hubei Province reported 1,807 new cases of novel coronavirus pneumonia on Feb 17, with 93 new deaths and 1,223 cases of recovery. The total number of infections in the province climbed to 59,989, with 7,862 recovered and 1,789 dead.
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Recovery is now accelerating.
Mortality is hovering at 3%.
Unless they actually are sealing the infected in their own homes it seems that the epicentre of the outbreak has it under control.
Chinese Study: “The [Wuhan] coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory” (300 yards from the Wuhan fish market, while the bat caves are 900 km away).
From Watts Up With That, moving from lying about anthropogenic climate destabilisation, to lying about CoVid 19. You are very consistent, Antsie.
Watts Up quoted the “Mailonline” which quoted “Botao Xiao 21.93 South China University of Technology, Lei Xiao” about that Wuhan Jiangxia Center For Disease Control lab close to the Wuhan fish market. It is just south of that market.
Read beyond the headlines.
MailOnLine-more hard Right lunacy. Then ‘alleged’ Chinese sources. Very unimpressive.
Xi-China is fighting the Wuhan corona virus but still has time to continue old war games around Taiwan:
China has been flying what it calls “island encirclement” drills on-off since 2016, when President Tsai Ing-wen (蔡英文) of the Democratic Progressive Party first took office. She was re-elected on Jan. 11.
You Zionists love land thieves, don’t you. A stooge of the USA is a stooge of Israel. It’s mandatory.
My Sunday night take on where it’s at!
The inflexion point of new infections has passed on cue as predicted in January.
Mortality is settled at around 3% or less.
The ship of lab rats is a perfect lab.
Chinese leadership have taken advantage of events to finesse policy on several fronts – the economic war with US by curbing 150 million Chinese tourists to western capitals and more local vicinities like Thailand, bringing relative hardships to their local tourist industries; just in time manufacturing supply chains to western industries are choked affecting their gdp; oil and commodities are reduced in price making chinese imports of these cheaper (thus boosting their GDP); politically the systems for future emergencies are improved and made robust; corrupt local setups are being easily removed, etc.
All strengthening the Chinese governance of 1.4 billion people as they take on world leadership role with SCO & BRI for the rest of the century.
And the move away from the dollar world and bankers control.
As for us, the old Anglo Imperialists- we are further fucked as the half millienium of pillage and war mongering for money and so power by the very very few bastard barons meets their nemesis.
Don’t worry about this outbreak or the future ones the Chinese will invent the meds faster abd we’ll be able to get them from AliBaBa. Com before Pfizer, Johnson& Johnson and co are out of bed.
Also Bozo will be able to buy 40 new hospitals and all the staff within weeks from the same website.
I’d recommend watching the minute by minute denouement in Syria as the left behind Jihadists get fed into the mincers and US and allied forces get on their choppers out of Iraq as the Resistance effects the full revenge for Soleimanis dumb assassination. Sone excellent on the ground twitter feeds.
I need more popcorn as the Empire dies, long live the new Empire!
& i’ll prob move more out of developed stocks to cash and buy back into emerging markets as the QE asset bubble distorts and pops.
Social Media is not a reliable news source but a great place for real reporting by dedicated individuals.
Nice take!
Yep – China on strike, refusing to support the dollar-dominated system any longer perhaps.
You might want to buy some gold as western paper gold markets are set to implode, following which price discovery will take place on the physical market in Shanghai.
Meaning – much, much, much higher prices.
You have to keep an open mind, but on the civil law balance of probabilities it seems clear that this was a biological weapons attack on China, by the US.
This has caused havoc for the Chinese economy, with far wider social and political repercussions.
You have to ask if the timing is pure coincidence, with the trade wars, South China Sea, Huawei, Hong Kong, the Uighurs, and other issues.
Pompeo threatened China with unspecified “consequences” over Hong Kong, but even he isn’t crazy enough to want all out war with China.
This is probably seen as a relatively cheap and easy way of weakening and destabilising China and fomenting unrest there, as part of a multi pronged campaign directed against the country, with one element succeeding another in rapid succession.
Huawei being followed by Hong Kong, being followed by the virus and so on.
America is known to have a very large biological weapons programme in countries like Georgia, Uzbekistan, Ukraine and many others.
It may even be that this is some kind of freelance operation by some US agency, which has neither sought nor obtained official authorisation. Trump has very little control over his own administration, significant parts of which are actively conspiring against him and seeking to unseat him.
The scale of the crisis is probably being concealed.
That is the default position of any government, to avoid panic.
The testing kits are only about 50% effective.
A large increase in sulphur dioxide has been monitored, which is associated with cremations.
Collecting bat coronaviruses, scores of them, in south-east Asia and Khazakstan among others, has been a prime operation of US biowarfare in recent years. Purely ‘defensive’, of course.
Finding the ambiguous reality behind the WTO entry of China: Growing China trade deficit cost 3.7 million American jobs between 2001 and 2018
The happy few: US and Chinese billionaires with stocks into this trade.
Dear Friends, here is some more information you may be interested in regarding the detection of alleged pathogenic viruses and viral infection.
In this post I would like to deal with antibody tests such as ELISA which is claimed by the CDC to detect antibodies against two different MERS-CoV proteins, the nucleocapsid (N) and spike (S) in people who have been previously exposed to an alleged coronavirus. Laboratories also use an rRT-PCR assay which is a molecular test developed by CDC claimed to detect viral RNA from the alleged virus during active infection. However both of these test methods are problematic. I have oversimplified the technical aspects somewhat so any errors or omissions are mine and I stand to be corrected.
First of all antibody tests currently used were never designed to detect a virus. ELISA antibody testing for example is based on the idea that the immune system is able to detect foreign agents including any alleged ‘viral proteins’ etc and produce antibodies (other proteins) that react and chemically unite with those agents to ‘neutralize’ them. In reality, antibodies meant for one agent have an affinity to cross-react with another agent that may have induced the antibody reaction other than the viral proteins etc being tested for. Even the Pasteur Institute has maintained that the purest monoclonal antibodies are not mono-specific and cross-react with other non-immunizing antigens. This implies that there is no proof that any of the antibodies that react in the antibody tests are the result of an infection solely due to coronavirus. In other words antibody tests are non-specific and relatively meaningless.
Regarding PCR assays here’s a quote from the CDC website:
Molecular assays available for detecting influenza virus infection include rapid molecular assays, Reverse Transcription-Polymerase Chain Reaction (RT-PCR), and other nucleic acid amplification tests. These tests can detect influenza viral RNA or nucleic acids in respiratory specimens with high sensitivity and high specificity. Notably, the detection of influenza viral RNA or nucleic acids by molecular assays does not necessarily indicate detection of viable virus or on-going influenza viral replication.
Note the words in the last sentence. PCR cannot detect the “influenza viral RNA or nucleic acids” and it doesn’t “indicate detection of a viable virus or ongoing influenza viral replication”. If we apply the same principle and method to the alleged Coronavirus’ RNA how is it in fact detected? Short segments of sample RNA are first converted via the enzyme reverse transcriptase into complementary cDNA which is inserted into a host cell’s DNA. The cDNA is then used as a template for exponential amplification using PCR. QT-NASBA is currently the most sensitive method of RNA detection available. As PCR only amplifies a very small part of a genome of whatever virus you are looking for, you can never know whether or not what it detects is not in fact a normal cellular gene sequence that matches your imaginary model of a coronavirus.
Simply put, PCR is looking for nucleic acid segments that are believed but are neither known or have been proven to come from the genome of a complete coronavirus which has never been physically isolated in the first place. A real whole viral genome is the only standard of comparison for any segments of gene substance detected and compared to the genome of an imaginary model. Without that as the CDC rightly asserts (and also shoots itself in the foot) it does not indicate the detection of a “viable virus” or of any ongoing “viral replication” (in and by the host cells in the test).
The latest from the CDC Director Dr Robert Redfield- the extremely virulent coronavirus will eventually gain a foothold in the united states. He told CNN’s Dr Sanjay Gupta quote “we don’t know a lot about this virus” “This virus is probably with us beyond this season, beyond this year, and I think eventually the virus will find a foothold and we will get community-based transmission.” “Right now we’re in an aggressive containment mode,” said Redfield.
Redfield really doesn’t know a lot about the virus because it hasn’t been proven to physically exist like I have argued many times. The question is why try to aggressively contain something that’s never been proven to be caused by an alleged virus and not a gamut of other causal factors? That’s because all smoke and mirror germ theory with a mixture of crystal ball gazing and speculation thrown in – not science. In other words, you can forget all about bringing to bear any convincing scientific evidence and conclusive proof that a virus is the culprit (which there is none to date) and that will not be done to avoid rigorous scrutiny of the scientific data by independent sources. Peer-reviewers of scientific papers all pee in the same pot and protect their funding and jobs.
Your final sentence renders the rest transparently paranoid and fanatical. Flat Earth, too?
Hi Richard Le Sarc, I would be grateful if you could please specify in detail as to why asking for conclusive scientific proof of an alleged pathogenic virus is “transparently paranoid and fanatical” and why the last sentence renders the rest “flat earth too”. Bearing in mind that the earth can indeed appear to be flat and also round depending on one’s vantage point – but that’s not the issue here is it?
All viruses are not pathogenic as you seem to be implying. It is one thing to ASSUME the existence of viruses that are PATHOGENIC it is another thing the prove that they have been physically isolated and that they are THE single cause of a disease. I bet you can’t prove that can you?
If you look at the scientific papers the coronoavirus it has either an average size or a range of sizes if that’s the case, how is it supposed to key into the specific cell receptors which according to virologists work on a ‘lock and key’ basis? All viruses must be of the same size and shape to enter the cell -its not the case with this alleged virus as it supposed to be ‘pleomorphic’ as I have already mentioned in a previous post in this discussion. Remember the majority of these alleged pathogens can do nothing -they cannot ACT -the cells have to do everything for them which is untenable. As for medical establishment peer reviewing there are papers written on its shortcomings -here’s a reference to one amongst others on its faults:
Smith R. Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals. J R Soc Med. 2006;99(4):178–182. doi:10.1258/jrsm.99.4.178.
Regards,
Tony
The entire world needs to know if it can be carried and transmitted by insects.
Have you got a link please – to substantiate?
Thanks.
It incubates for up to 24 days and there is high viral load in blood and a mosquito or flea might be a suitable momentary host.
Your twaddle re sources is just a measure of your banality. Pure wankerism actually so go make a mess of a box a tissues or something, and yeah, try and grow some brains.
Have you got a link for a question.?
Brain work much does it.?
Insects can carry all sorts of microorganisms and can ‘transmit’ them to humans but so what ? They are not necessarily THE cause of disease but may play a secondary role in the resolution of a disease process. Cockroaches in particular are a classic carrier and transmitter of microorganisms.
While many alt-media outlets have fingered Event 201 as the replica “drill” that so often coincides with a false flag event, few are aware that on the day after that simulation, the 2019 Military World Games kicked off in Wuhan, bringing 300 US military personnel to the city.
Former Malaysian PM Matthias Chang, however, zeroed in on the games as the likely entry point for what he described as a biological war waged by the US against China. In an interview with the Institute for War and Peace Reporting last month, Chang placed coronavirus on a continuum of American bio-attacks he said included deliberate infection of Guatemalans with syphilis and gonorrhea and Cubans with dengue fever, as well as creating the Ebola epidemic in Sierra Leone.
http://helenofdestroy.com/index.php/146-two-birds-with-one-flu-coronavirus-weaponized-against-china-and-american-dissidents
Louis Pasteur’s ‘germ theory’ is the current in vogue theory of mainstream medical science and is supported by the pharmaceutical industry and the MSM. Pierre Jacques Antoine Béchamp was a brilliant scientist who refuted Pasteur’s germ theory, he possessed academic qualifications and an intellect far superior to that of the chemist Louis Pasteur (who plagiarised Béchamp’s work without giving due credit to Béchamp).
However, germ theory is now so entrenched and has become so popular that modern medical science and its ideology (which is largely based on a muddy mixture of philosophy, a rationalized form of empiricism and metaphysics) has managed to bamboozle the majority of the human population into believing that germs are THE cause of all infectious diseases. But all that is another story. For the present, what does traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) have to say about epidemics viruses, bacteria and fungi? Not a lot nowadays – because it has now largely been hijacked and taken over by the globalist medical establishment which only allows Pasteur’s untenable germ theory to prevail –a single germ = a single disease.
However, I wish to put forward if I may, what TCM has to say regarding epidemics and their causes. Firstly, TCM uses the concept of wenbing (meaning “warm-diseases”) to specify many illnesses ranging from the common cold, respiratory illnesses, high fevers, acute infectious diseases and epidemic diseases like SARS (atypical pneumonia allegedly caused by a novel coronavirus). The current outbreak of pneumonia with febrile symptoms etc in China will be classified under this general category as was SARS.
Secondly, what are the probable causes of the symptoms produced in the current outbreak in Wuhan and now elsewhere according to TCM (leaving conspiracies out of it)? In explaining wenbing or “warm diseases” and also wenyi referring to “febrile epidemics” including the currently observed pneumonia symptoms – TCM refers us to the concept of qi (chi). Qi is an energy substance which enters the body from the environment and circulates through the acupuncture channels to the cells, tissues and organs throughout the entire human organism. Energy (qi) therefore has substance and it’s not just a capacity to perform work, if had no substance it couldn’t perform anything. But acupuncture proves that qi can perform many different functions throughout the body. Qi can also exist in a variety of different forms and is in a constant state of flux – some forms are very important such as normal qi, nutritive qi, protective qi, ancestral qi, organ qi and meridian qi that circulate throughout the body.
Normal physiological action occurs when qi flows harmoniously throughout the body, when it doesn’t a qi disharmony pattern arises which can result in disease. So far so good, but there are also types of qi that can enter the body which are associated with epidemics and are responsible for the production of qi disharmony patterns that arise in specific locations in certain geographical environments and certain climatic conditions. These forms of qi have been variously described as anomalous qi, pestilential qi, and also deviant qi. They have all been classified as heterogeneous pathogenic forms of qi which can invade the body of those who are susceptible due to a combination of factors including existing internal qi disharmony patterns, involving qi and blood deficiences, qi stagnation, poor constitution, local poisonous qi, miasmic qi, unseasonable climatic qi. This only scratches the surface but now you can see why it’s so easy to blame a virus for a “warm disease” such as pneumonia which is dependent on numerous pathogenic factors and conditions.
China seems to have more or less ground to a halt, economically and socially, in dealing with the virus.
It also poses obvious dangers politically for the Chinese leadership, if their response is widely seen to be inadequate. They may be aware of this, and may have overreacted to some extent.
There are signs of this already. It will cause severe damage to the Chinese economy, with lower growth.
This may weaken the Chinese position in the ongoing US/ China trade war.
It also provokes racist anti Chinese hostility.
For these reasons it is entirely plausible that this is some kind of US biological weapon.
The US has an extensive biological weapons programme, with facilities in all sorts of odd places like Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
It could be argued that this is unlikely because it could backfire on the US.
The virus could spread to America and become a public health problem there.
The disruption of Chinese supply chains could cause problems for the US economy.
But there is a precedent for this in the use of viruses, in the form of the Stuxnet computer viruses used against Iran.
This infected Siemens control equipment, and spread uncontrollably to similar Siemens systems throughout the world.
But this did not greatly concern the US/ Israel – just a bit of collateral damage.
I think it is entirely plausible that this is an attack on China – we know the geopolitical background.
If it is, then it would have been ethnically targeted. Those ACE2 receptors indicate that. Thus, there would be minimal impact in the West.
You notice that outside of China very little is happening – allegedly 3 dead. I think the concern outside China is just for show, perhaps a little bit of hysteria. The figures for ‘infected’ and dead’ are negligible.
Inside China obviously something is happening – but what?
In my opinion, this is either an attack on China, or the Chinese are exaggerating the efffects because they need a cover story for something.
The world economy has been edging closer to the precipice for a while. If you needed a cover story for a depression (either in China or worldwide) , something to cause a controlled demolition of the world economy with a subsequent monetary reset, then an epidemic would serve nicely.
Not only that – the quarantine and other emergency measures now being implemented – not just in China – would come in very handy for dealing with any ‘civil disorder’.
If China wanted to bring the dollar-centric international monetary and financial system to the ground, while maintaining plausible deniability, then a ‘manufacturing strike’ caused by the necessity of controlling an epidemic would be one way to go about it.
You can neither determine nor confirm virus infection by reference to its alleged ACE2 receptors. You first have to isolate the virus and prove it is infectious and all the rest that goes with it before you can do that and you must have proper controls. Its not been done to date. I’ve seen the papers which only assume isolation and then concoct the pseudoscience from there.
So you migrated mosquito boy.!
Mr Clickdd, angiotensin prophet are we now.
Why would China’s Government be ‘threatened’ by a disease outbreak when they have led the Chinese people to the greatest economic leap in human history, with the Chinese people dragged out of poverty, illiteracy, low life expectancy, high infant and child mortality and general backwardness? Only in the propaganda dreams of Western Sinophobes, I fear.
The hysteria and the ‘pandemic’ continues
From Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/13/sudden-spike-in-coronavirus-cases-only-means-new-method-of-counting/
NO tests for the presence of the coronavirus are now necessary, in China. Read that sentence again.
The new method of counting? CT scans (computed tomography scans) of the chest.
The scans are used to diagnose standard traditional lung diseases.
For example, pneumonia.
And pneumonia is called THE “coronavirus illness.”
There is only one problem. Deaths from pneumonia, in China, appear to be 300,000 per year — which comes to 3 million per decade (I’m making a major downward estimate, based on correcting an error and referring to a trusted source.) These deaths certainly occurred in time periods before the purported emergence of the new coronavirus. Pneumonia has been around forever.
Get it? A test for ordinary pneumonia—CT Scan—now becomes a test that delivers a diagnosis of “new epidemic coronavirus.”
ABSURD.
clickkid wrote: Get it? A test for ordinary pneumonia—CT Scan—now becomes a test that
delivers a diagnosis of “new epidemic coronavirus.” ABSURD.
I agree because they have never physically isolated the alleged coronavirus in question in any lab nor have they proved conclusively that the said virus is the cause of the pneumonia. There are several claims that they have done so, but when you read the scientific papers and cut through the acronyms and technical jargon they have failed to do that and specific details are missing. The electron micrographs include other particles that should not be there. If the virus has been purified (which is a necessity before anything else can be done) the micrograph should reveal virus particles ONLY free from contaminants.
Most photographs of alleged coronaviruses are coloured because they are computer enhanced theoretical models and are not actual viruses. In other words, nobody has ever really observed a coronavirus under an electron microscope -only particles that may look like those in a speculative theoretical model based on microvesicles and other cellular particles of a similar shapes and sizes.
Oh dear Big Pharma won’t be getting their pay day after all!
00:30 am Feb 14
Over 10 patients in serious conditions apparently improved after taking the products made of blood plasma containing antibodies donated by recovered patients. The products prove the most effective way at present to treat COVID-19 as there is no effective drug or vaccine.
10:18 pm Feb 13
Zhang Dingyu, director of Jinyintan Hospital in Wuhan, said COVID-19-infected patients that have recovered have a large number of comprehensive antibodies, which can fight the virus. He called on them to come to donate plasma for patients who are still struggling.
https://www.globaltimes.cn//content/1177737.shtml
The antibiotics don’t fight the virus because the virus has never been proven to physically exist. There are antibiotics which actually work on the immune system as well as keeping bacteria in check which play their role in most inflammatory processes due to toxicity or injury.
The antibodies may have been effective against out of hand bacteria or something else but not any alleged unproven COV-19.
http://healthinsightuk.org/2020/02/12/coronavirus-a-reliable-test-is-badly-needed-we-dont-have-one/#more-2574
Like other disease conditions, the greater risk may be in the treatment.
“Francis Boyle: Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon”
In Geopolitics & Empire
In the light of my link above, consider that belief in the virus – and its methodology of diagnosis,attracts biocidal treatments – which are bio-warfare.
The same thing was done with AIDS
http://www.whale.to/aids.html
A lot of questions asked above have known answers like how are cases confirmed. Perhaps this could be googled and the answer posted as an addendum to this piece so that some facts can be discussed.
The ‘how are cases confirmed’ question is still a work in progress. This infection mimics generic influenza so the biggest problems that health workers have include first identifying that this is a novel infection and then figuring out how to test for it. By the time this has happened many people who were infected have recovered (and quite possibly passed the infection onto others). Refining the reporting has caused a recent big jump in reported cases — its not a sudden spike in infection but rather a better understanding of what was going on as the Chinese can now identify infected and recovered patients by antibodies in their blood.
Its particularly irritating when you find the news media trying to put a political spin on this. Sure, there might be politics involved, even CYA, but given the problems of trying to identify this type of outbreak I think the Chinese are to be commended in how fast the mobilized to deal with it. Instead of ‘just the facts’ I’m treated to spin, its all about “Chinese officials” covering up, how a “free press” would mitigate the outbreak and, of course, only in a totalitarian state could an entire city be shut down for quarantine (not exactly true — we can do this in the US if we need to but somehow I don’t think it will work).
Islington, North London has one GP practice close it’s doors claiming the nCov outbreak according to the Groaniad!
Lol. That’ll be Corbyns fault then?
Seriously, GP practices have been under severe pressure due to turning them into profit centres years ago. The leads are so stressed many have taken their gold platted pensions – not available to newgen GP’s. Then they go back to be paid as loccuums in their own surgeries!
Many have been closing or are close to closing , so the claim that that one has closed because of the n-Cov seems a bit convenient and contrived.
Of course the reason for the failings have everything to do with creating conditions for furthet privatisation of the NHS.
From 13th November 2019:
““China is rolling out a cryptocurrency, a lot of the details have not been divulged. I can tell you that the cryptocurrency that China’s rolling out will be backed by gold. It’s a two-pronged announcement. Number one, China’s got 20,000 tonnes of gold, number two, we’re rolling out a crypto coin backed by gold, and the dollar is toast,” Max Keiser told to Kitco News earlier this month.”
………..
“According to Max Keiser, there is a “trap door” for the U.S. economy. When China announces his gold-backed cryptocurrency which is scheduled in the next 6-9 months it will be a catastrophic event for the US dollar.”
https://7bitcoins.com/chinas-gold-backed-cryptocurrency-to-destroy-the-us-dollar-in-2020-keiser-report/
Covid 19 is not a lung infection. It may enter the body through the lungs but it may be sexually transmitted too given it infects organs by binding to angiotensin 2 receptors.
If left untreated it may destroy the pituitary gland, gonads and ovaries.
It is adapting.
It may not be limited to homo sapiens. It may take out the great apes. It may jump through dogs, cats, rats or birds before cycling back to us and it may become insect borne this sweltering spring and summer across the eurasian continent.
The young tolerate it better, at least a first, but if it adapts itself to a strategy of mortality attenuation then maybe it just chews away at the germ cells in one’s scrotum, and no more bothersome than a set of blue balls for a few days. It is just little while after that you find you are not only infertile but also that you no longer make testosterone.
No one can be sure this thing is benign.
Why does it massively disproportionately afflict the Chinese?
You used the words ‘may’ or ‘maybe’ seven times there.
A rule of thumb that I find useful is to always treat the word ‘may’ or ‘maybe’ as the most important word in the sentence where it appears.
How can lifeless chemicals consisting of RNA with protein coats ADAPT ??????? Remember the general consensus of microbiologists is that alleged pathogenic viruses cannot do anything – the cells have to do everything for them including ADAPTING. If you really believe that then there’s not much hope for humanity.
RNA viruses can ‘adapt’ through mutation of the viral RNA genome as it replicates. LIke all mutational evolution, the vast majority of changes will either be ‘no change’ or render the virus inactive, hence they get diluted out. However, a small number may change capsid protein sequence in ways which affect their binding to host surface receptors, make them less antigenic to host immune systems etc.
If you seriously think that viruses cannot adapt, you need some basic scientific education.
Why do you think that flu vaccines only last a year or so? Flu virus adapts!!
07:42 am Feb 13
Hubei Province reported 14,840 new cases (including 13,332 clinically diagnosed cases) of novel coronavirus pneumonia on Feb 12, with 242 new deaths and 802 cases of recovery. The total number of infections in the province climbed to 48,206, with 1,310 deaths and 3,441 cases of recovery.
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This is serious!
242 new deaths!!
At the regular increase in daily cases – lessthan 2000 – that would have implied a mortality of over 3.6%.
But with the equally astronomical increase in total cases it takes it down to 2.7%.
It seems there is some weird shit happening with the numbers.
I wondered why China would agree to part of this “live exercise”. It wouldn’t seem to do them any favours but perhaps a way to keep their tourism yen internal? And perhaps other countries are feeling that the proportion of Chinese visitors is on the high side now that Chinese affluence has greatly increased. I haven’t travelled overseas in years but I’ve heard mention of “lots of Chinese tourists”. Just a thought.
Should have put link that prompted my thought.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7938497/Coronavirus-costing-global-tourism-industry-BILLIONS.html
China is the motor of the world economy.
China wants to move away from a dollar-centric international monetary and financial system, towards a system based on gold reserves.
China is ready for that move, but how to bring the present system to an end?
Well, you need a cover story.
Is China pulling a sickie?
Just speculation – we shall have to wait and see.
What we do know is that this so-called epidemic is non-existent outside China.
Here is some more information regarding alleged ‘pathogenic coronaviruses’:
Coronaviruses are specified as being large enveloped, positive single stranded viruses that can be divided into 4 genera: alpha, beta, delta, and gamma, of which alpha and beta CoVs, which are claimed to infect humans. It is also usually claimed that the RNA from these viruses can be isolated from nasopharyngeal and sputum samples obtained from infected patients. But that has NEVER been achieved in scientific practice to date, since we usually end up with ‘isolates’ containing impurities and other cellular materials including RNA (and DNA) from other sources but no actual physically isolated virus particles with their whole genomes etc intact.
What has been ‘isolated’ are particles that may look like viruses but are not. These are obtained from cell cultures and band in sucrose density gradients after centrifugation. Their sizes are not consistent and they have been known to exhibit pleomorphism. But if viruses are inert and lifeless chemicals as the majority of virologists believe, then they cannot be pleomorphic anyway – they should always be of the same size and diameter. Antibody tests are useless in the absence of a complete infectious coronavirus particle and also RT-PCR methods that claim to show that the patchwork quilt made up of fragments of gene substance obtained and sequenced belongs to a complete genome of a physically isolated coronavirus particle. Unfortunately, we are now constantly bombarded with so much germ theory that almost everyone accepts it as an integral part of their consensus reality and anyone who opposes it is not of this world!.
I thought the virus genome in question is composed of RNA and not DNA. Do you mean the DNA of the host was sequenced?
The sequencing of the viral genome is the correct statement to be made here, in my opinion.
Berlin Beerman wrote: I thought the virus genome in question is composed of RNA and not DNA. Do you mean the DNA of the host was sequenced?
I can answer that question. You are correct – the alleged viral genome is composed of RNA not DNA in theory. I say ‘in theory’ because purified coronavirus particles have never been physically isolated to biochemically characterize or determine their genetic sequences or proteins. A whole complete virus particle is absolutely required (which has never been obtained to date, and despite any claims to the contrary ) to act as a standard of comparison before you can do any sequencing or anything else.
In this outbreak we are told that about 1100 people have died so far – almost all from pneumonia.
Let’s put that into context.
Pneumonia is a common illness affecting approximately 450 million people a year and occurring in all parts of the world.[2] It is a major cause of death among all age groups, resulting in 1.4 million deaths in 2010 (7% of the world’s yearly total) and was the 4th leading cause of death in the world in 2016, resulting in 3.0 million deaths worldwide.[2][3] Pneumonia is a type of lower respiratory tract infection, and is also the most deadly communicable disease as of 2016.[3] Rates are greatest in children less than five and adults older than 75 years of age.[2] It occurs about five times more frequently in the developing world versus the developed world.[2] Viral pneumonia accounts for about 200 million cases.[2] ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_pneumonia
“•Pneumonia accounts for 15% of all deaths of children under 5 years old, killing 808 694 children in 2017.
•Pneumonia can be caused by viruses, bacteria, or fungi.
•Pneumonia can be prevented by immunization, adequate nutrition, and by addressing environmental factors.
•Pneumonia caused by bacteria can be treated with antibiotics, but only one third of children with pneumonia receive the antibiotics they need.
Pneumonia is a form of acute respiratory infection that affects the lungs. The lungs are made up of small sacs called alveoli, which fill with air when a healthy person breathes. When an individual has pneumonia, the alveoli are filled with pus and fluid, which makes breathing painful and limits oxygen intake.
Pneumonia is the single largest infectious cause of death in children worldwide. Pneumonia killed 808 694 children under the age of 5 in 2017, accounting for 15% of all deaths of children under five years old. Pneumonia affects children and families everywhere, but is most prevalent in South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa. Children can be protected from pneumonia, it can be prevented with simple interventions, and treated with low-cost, low-tech medication and care.”
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/pneumonia
The absurdity of this so-called pandemic is plain to see. In the two months since it got going it has apparently killed 1100 people in China and 2 outside. In those same two months – calculating from those WHO figures – approximately 139,000 under-5s alone have died from pneumonia worldwide.
It’s a rounding error.
Clickkid wrote: Pneumonia can be caused by viruses, bacteria, or fungi.
•Pneumonia can be prevented by immunization, adequate nutrition, and by addressing environmental factors.
•Pneumonia caused by bacteria can be treated with antibiotics, but only one third of children with pneumonia receive the antibiotics they need.
Pneumonia is an inflammatory reaction to endogenous or exogenous toxins which can be caused by a gamut of other factors beside viruses, bacteria, or fungi as these usually appear as secondary effects of pneumonia which are usually involved in the breakdown of diseased tissue cells unless of course you are subject to a bucketful of them first and your bodily defences and eliminative processes have already been compromised or overwhelmed.
New cells cannot be rebuilt effectively in the same location unless the dead cells are removed and destroyed by bacteria and devoured by phagocytes. The problem is that sometimes bacteria can get out of hand and that’s when antibiotics are used to keep their population in check by killing them off but the antibiotics sometimes cause other problems including candida albicans (and other fungal infections). There is no scientific evidence that immunization can prevent pneumonia because of the toxological reasons stated above and the vaccines themselves have different adverse reactions in and on the bodily systems. See drugs.com professional for vaccine side-effects.
I think this is interesting:
The US and China have different statistical methods regarding the compilation of data for the incidence of normaal flu.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1177725.shtml
Snippet:
“Analysts noted the US mortality rate looks much higher than China’s because of the two countries’ different statistical methods. The response came after some net users questioned whether the high death rate shows the ineffective control of flu in the US and how different countries should cooperate effectively to curb the new coronavirus-related disease.
The flu epidemic in the US eased during the week of January 5-11 but remains active, with an estimated 13-18 million cases of flu illnesses documented since the start of the season, a latest report from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said.
The agency also estimates between 6,600 and 17,000 deaths related to influenza since October 1, 2019.
Official Chinese data of flu-caused deaths is much lower, with Chinese CDC data showing that in 2018, there were more than 700,000 cases and 144 deaths.
But there was an epidemic in early 2019. In January 2019, the number of flu cases in the Chinese mainland reached 608,511, with 143 deaths. In the first five months of 2019 alone, the number of reported cases of influenza reached 1.77 million, exceeding the total of the past four years.
Chinese netizens questioned why the flu death rate in China is much lower than that in the US given the overall coverage of flu vaccines in China is less than 2 percent, far lower than the rate of developed countries, including the US. Some doubted the effectiveness of the vaccines.
“The US flu mortality rate includes cases where flu causes other illnesses to worsen and lead to death, while China only counts people who die directly from flu,” an observer who prefers to be anonymous told the Global Times.”
Three Points:
1. Countries often vary enormously on how the cause of death is classified.
2. Between 6600 and 17000 flu deaths in the US since October 1st 2019 – there’s some perspective for you.
3. These discrepancies in how countries classify flu deaths are more than big enough for this outbreak to hide in.
Interesting, but then either China is underestimating or the US is overestimating deaths from flu.
But then in the US everything is bigger (food plates, weight, bullshit), which would mean that both countries could be right!
On a serious note, someone commented here that all deaths to flu in the US account also deaths due to pneumonia. If that is the case, the US overestimates.
Some context about pneumonia in China in a study from 2010:
“Pneumonia is one of the leading causes of death in adults and children in China [4]. In urban areas, pneumonia is the fourth leading cause of death, and in rural areas pneumonia is the leading cause of death [5], [6]. A recent article in the Chinese literature estimated that each year in China there are 2.5 million patients with pneumonia and that 125,000 (5%) of these patients die of pneumonia-related illness [5”
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0011721
So the 1100 apparent fatal cases from this outbreak would represent less than 1% of the total pneumonia deaths for China in a typical year.
I’m increasingly moving towards calling ‘bullshit’ on this epidemic.
Why am I doing that?
Look at the figures ex-China:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak_by_country_and_territory
We are nearly mid-February and outside China still only 2 alleged fatalities. This is nearly 3 months after the alleged ‘outbreak’ – in a strongly interconnected and globalized world where people are travelling all the time.
We are also seeing plenty of ‘recoveries’, although since so many of those ‘infected’ have no symptoms, it is not clear what they are supposed to have recovered from.
Those 2 were both elderly. In normal circumstances their deaths would have been attributed to normal flu or whatever.
I thought epidemics were supposed to – you know – kill lots of people and spread like wildfire.
Investment manager Rick Rule is fond of saying “Arithmetic always trumps narrative”.
The narrative is saying that this alleged virus is a threat to humanity and could kill millions.
Arithmetic tells us that 2 people outside China have apparently died from it, but maybe from something else.
We’re being had.
COVID-19? Should have called it Andromeda.
6:13 am Feb 12
Hubei Province reported 1,638 new cases of novel coronavirus pneumonia on Feb 11, with 94 new deaths and 417 cases of recovery. The total number of infections in the province climbed to 33,366, with 1,068 deaths and 2,639 cases of recovery.
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Mortality edged up to 3.2% after having dipped below 3%.
Excellent news. New cases falling. Deaths falling. Recoveries rising.
Inflexion point imminent- prob within week.
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And a dandy NEW name (WHO been burning candles to do their bit for attention – COVID-19.
Yeah man that is sooooo much cooler than 2019nCoV!
Yeah rolls off the tongue, real Hollywood ready, and can have plenty of sequels and hell yeah even 18 ‘prequels’ – fuck you Starwars!
It gets funnier
According to the WHO, the naming of the virus should avoid any stigmatizing by not referring it to any specific geographic locations, animal, individuals’ names, species of animal, culture, population, industry or occupation.
Yeah…
Without wishing to disparage Jon Rappoport I think he’d be well served ditching his claim that “that there are between 2.8million and 17million deaths in China per year from pneumonia” – at leastways the higher end of it.
Every year approximately 0.8% of any given human population will die – birthrate, deathrate, and all that. For the world this means about 55 million die every year. In China this figure is somewhere in the vicinity of 15 million annually. That figure can then be broken down into car crashes, cancer, pneumonia, etc.
Thus it is possible that 2.8 million people in China die from pneumonia every year, although that would comprise 20% of all Chinese deaths and sounds rather high to me. But it’s possible. What isn’t possible is the figure of 17 million deaths by pneumonia.
Given that macrocosmically correct arguments are often shot down over microcosmic errors he might want to amend this particular figure.
advice from Gov.uk….
In order to protect public health, and the health and welfare of those boarding evacuation flights from Wuhan/Hubei, all British nationals and immediate family members travelling on these flights will be quarantined for 14 days following arrival. Your ability to contact friends and family during quarantine will not be restricted.
but:
Q: If I self-evacuate, will I be placed in quarantine in the UK on arrival?
A: No. People arriving from Wuhan and Hubei Province to the UK in the last 14 days should stay indoors and avoid contact with other people as you would with the flu, and call NHS 111 to inform them of your recent travel to the area. This applies even if you do not have symptoms of the virus.
The UK is not taking special measures regarding arrivals of any nationality from China beyond standard entry procedures.
so….from what I read – if you go along with the act – play the showpiece propoganda part….your a danger to public health…..otherwise – it’s just “as you would with the Flu” – some Scotch and Honey and a box of hankerchiefs !
https://e.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang
Oh! Wikipedia! Scrub the above link! Must be a tissue of internationally élitist lies.
No Wuhan corona cases reported from Indonesia, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Saudi Arabia or Dubai?
As soon as Trump weighs in, OffG will fall in line. Everything else is FAKE news, right?
i cannot wait for the vaccine for me and my family it cannot come soon enough.
it would be amazing if we could have a booster monkey virus shots which can wipe out the wuttanclam virus the bejing chicken flu the yellow river virus the man fu kung contagion the albanian marching virus the peruviam wombat bacteriums.
on the subject of boris johnston and his family interests
the new train to birmingham may have been quoted at 30 billions but even at the 160 billion revised figures it is a bargain for the goyim.
for the folks suggestiong train ticket one way costs at £150 this is for a seat or standing the rothschild corporation of london will also be introducing a rack system similar to wine racks and vacuum pack systems which will be great value for the general rabble everywhere
If you want some conspiracy theory, the first conronavirus cases in Europe were apparently in France…
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-reaches-europe-as-france-confirms-3-cases/a-52145333
This is against the backdrop of France being in total revolution against the neoliberal psychopathy. The latest on that can be found here…
https://www.rt.com/news/480568-schools-blocked-throughout-france-protests/
We are now up to week 65 of the gilets jaunes / yellow vests protests (which has got to be one of the longest mass protests in history), and we’ve just come out of a six week general strike (the longest general strike in French history), and many workers remain on strike – see my link above.
Macron and the psychopaths first reaction to this uprising was the usual state brutality. Then they started using ‘terror attacks’. When that didn’t work they burnt down the Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris. When that didn’t work they went back to ‘terror attacks’ again.
Now we’ve got the conronavirus nonsense.
Maybe I should go join that lunatic in Texas?
I should add that the longest protest in modern western history was the Greenham Common Women’s Peace Camp, which started in 1981 and ended in 2000: 19 years of protest (against nuclear weapons).
The point about the gilets jaunes is that it is mass protest, in every city, town and even village all across France. There’s never been anything like it in modern times.
Being handed our fukus arses in Syria by the Syrian Army and Russian Airforce and having our headchoppers and their Jihadi brides and families on the run to Libya except for thousands of Uighars and other un-resettleables ready to go rogue, as Erdogan mullers himself by officially illegally invading Syria and then supposedly expecting nato intervention when the Syrians resist that invasion.
Can’t wait to see up-pimpleo put his arse anywhere near a drone strike range! He seems to be avoiding all such areas… Soleimani achieved more US defeat in one months martyrdom than in years of Field Marshalling! That is how god moves for these who believe.
Macron is now just a vampyre husk, living the last days of versaille with his boyfriends having succeeded in reigniting the French revolutionary ardour – he won’t survive Bastille Day and the birth of yet another Republic.
That’s how to deal with neoliberal neocon bastards!
Bozo is going to get his too.
There was an article in the Guardian that identifed how the infection got to France — it came via a British businessman woh had been at a sales conference in Singapore who stopped off on the way home for a vacation. This person has turned Brighton into a virus hot spot (relatively speaking….I don’t think 3 cases count as an epidemic).