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DISCUSS: Assange Extradition Hearing

Julian Assange’s extradition hearing is underway as of this morning, at Woolwich Crown Court. It will be his first public appearance since last May.

However fair, impartial, or even real this legal process is, there’s no question of its importance in terms of the idea of free speech. Even if you don’t buy the Assange narrative is genuine – and we get a lot of comments and tweets from people who think that way – the narrative is still that he’s on trial for simply publishing documents the US would rather he didn’t. Which is totally unacceptable.

Assange’s father reported that the WikiLeaks founder was being harassed the day before his trial began:

Early signs are that the QC’s arguing for the Assange to be “sent back” to America, have no interest in being either honest or especially subtle.

…or, indeed, that they even know exactly how Assange is meant to have broken the law:

NOTE: “Damaging US interests” is not a crime. Yet.

The media are gearing up to cover it, with a possible slight change in attitude at The Guardian (a development that bears watching), although the subject is conspicuous by its absence on the BBC Homepage.

As always, discuss below.

Following discussion among the editors, it update detailing the court proceedings thus far has been split into a separate article.

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tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc

Excellent reporting from Kevin Gosztola on Day 2

“Julian Assange Extradition Hearing – Day 2 Recap”

Tony
Tony

Kevin’s twitter feed is the go-to for live updates from the courtroom.

Petra Liverani

So Chelsea plays quite an important role in this hearing. I feel bad. I so should have pushed harder for the truth of her being an intelligence asset and Collateral Murder being fake. What a sad charade. It doesn’t matter what group people allege to be in – those seeking the truth or those just wanting to get along – certain truths will always be treated with hostility, evidenced in my comment below receiving 8 downvotes, an accusatory comment and a single upvote, but not a soul chiming in, just the truth out there all on its lonesome, completely unsupported.

Nowhere is there any argument for Chelsea not being an intelligence asset or for the veracity of Collateral Murder. No there’s never any argument for those two claims … because, of course, there isn’t any argument to be made in that direction. The perps are good that way, we can never, ever take that away from them. They always let us know when they’re hoaxing us but even when you point out the signs of hoaxery, some of which are delivered on a platter pushed in our face, people will be hostile because they’ve got comfortable in the narrative that the perps have seduced us with whether it’s Narrative A for the masses or Narrative B for the critics. They don’t recognise it as a narrative, they think it’s the truth but no it’s just a narrative that can be blown away just like that, it’s just magic propaganda dust. Nothing wrong with not recognising it initially, of course, that simply cannot be helped. But what people need to be able to do if they are genuine truthseekers is to turn on a dime when the evidence says they should. When it’s made clear, they need to be able to recognise a narrative they’ve been seduced by for what it is. They need to confront having been duped. But they don’t want to do that, the narrative is too seductive, they are too ensconced in it, it’s too inconvenient to aboutface and perhaps they resist because it might result in feeling shame (no need for shame though, all that’s required is recognition) … and the perps know that, of course. They’re very skilled at seducing us with their narratives and keeping us ensconced and fossilised in them, so very skilled. Been doing it for millennia.

Chelsea Manning is an intelligence asset and Collateral Murder is a fake. That is the simple, incontrovertible truth and you can downvote and deride as much as you like. Nothing can deny the truth but especially not inarticulate downvotes and derision – if anything, they probably vouch for it.

https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/wikileaks-controlled-opposition.html

Petra Liverani

LOL. No matter what pre-emptive measures, I knew I’d get at least one inarticulate, moronically hostile downvote. Perhaps though with any luck it was just part of a controlled opposition campaign to wear me down or something. Not holding my breath for anyone chiming in with the taboo truth that Chelsea is an intelligence asset and Collateral Murder is fake. Not holding my breath for that. To be a truthseeker you cannot respect taboos, respecting taboos is the antithesis of truthseeking … and, of course, that’s what the power elite rely on. They rely so very much on the power of taboo and they know they can count 100% on respect of taboos whether among the masses or among those who claim to be critics of power. There are the very, very powerful taboos around death which keep people fearfully mute but then there are other taboos created simply from a lie being held to be true for whatever length of time. A lie being held to be true for any length of time is responsible for the creation of a great number of taboos and then it’s easy – held to be true for a certain length of time which just keeps getting longer and longer … and longer and longer … until it is simply no longer a lie anymore … except that it is always a lie.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this:
If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.
We’re no longer interested in finding out the Truth. The bamboozle has captured us.
It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken.
Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.

​Carl Sagan

How sadly easy we are to control through the power of taboo.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

Admin

I urge you to publish Craig Murrays first day report on Off-G.

He has given permission for it’s reprint. There is no excuse for not reporting the first days farce in the ‘Westminster Court’ not being held at Westminster Court.

Open
Open

British Justice:

Assange was handcuffed 11 times, stripped twice, and deprived of his legal papers following the conclusion of the first day of hearings

What does being ‘stripped’ imply?

michaelk
michaelk

I never thought, and wrote, that Assange would never be charged with anything by the Swedes because the allegations and case against him was so incredibly weak and really, close to non-existant.

I think the same applies to this latest extradition hearing. I’d be stunned if, in the end the UK courts decide to extradite him to the US because the whole thing is so transparently political in nature and, therefore he cannot be extradited.

That Donald Trump is in power makes it even less likely. The Supreme Court won’t allow it to happen.

What’s extraordinary how little interest the UK media is showing in this trial, even though what’s happening directly affects them and the sanctions could easily be applied to them next; something the prosecution has already alluded to. It’s almost like we already live in a kind of police state where to tell the truth about the crimes of the state, in this case…. warcrimes, has become a punishable offence, and the media are complicit in the persecution of the truth-teller rather than supporting him.

SO.
SO.

They don’t care that it’s political.

What’s going to happen is that they’ll ignore the political aspect whilst ruling that mere possession of classified material is an extraditable offence irrespective of how that material was acquired or for what purpose.

In other words journalism is illegal.

Mucho
Mucho

Yes, we are living in a police state. Look out of your window, the whole country is riddled from top to bottom with wireless security/military surveillance and communication hardware, it is now a militarized zone and they haven’t even installed 5G yet. We are living in horrible times and the UK is a major part of the disease. All this wireless stuff is your enemy. This industry is where the military and public-corporate worlds converge

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Prepare to be stunned. This is really existing ‘Rule of Law’ in the West in action.

der einzige

Mossange! he will be fine it’s a controlled opposition

Petra Liverani

You can tell by his state of health that he is not controlled opposition no matter what nonsense he says about 9/11. Equally, you can tell by her state of health that Chelsea Manning is.

Thom
Thom

Meanwhile the mainstream media seem far more interested in the trial of an American film mogul in an American court. Funny that.

GEOFF
GEOFF

Yes he’ll more than likely end up with a heart aattck and end up in Israel with the rest of his ‘dead’ mates

michaelk
michaelk

Knowing that her judgement will receive a lot of legal scrutiny… worldwide, tends to concentrate the mind. The Judge doesn’t want to ‘fuck up’ the case too obviously because her legal reputation is on the line too. If she finds in favour of the Americans, which may not happen; the case will be appealed to a higher court and then if the first ruling isn’t overturned, upwards to the UK Supreme Court which will examine the legal principles involved in minute detail. Then we’re off to the European Court of Human Rights!

But will it come to that? This whole thing will drag on for years and years and the longer it lasts the harder it will be to hand Assange over to the Americans and the real nature of the case will be harder and harder to ignore. Also the higher up the legal system one goes the better the quality of judges and the more independent they usually are. The Supreme Court in the UK guards its independence and status dearly. I simply don’t believe they will sanction sending Assange to Donald Trump’s USA to be thrown into prison for the rest of his life just for doing his job. It can never be a ‘crime’ to reveal warcrimes committed by a state, which is what the Americans are arguing in reality.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Not if Assange has a ‘heart attack’, it won’t. Something like the Milosevic Method.

RealPeter
RealPeter

There is NOTHING (as in utter blank, rien, nada, zilch, zero, sifr) on today’s Graun website about the Assange hearing. So it is clearly of no importance to them. Kit-Catte are going to have a field day with next week’s Groaniad roundup.

Craig Murray has a long account of yesterday’s proceedings on his blog.

wardropper
wardropper

On the contrary, this is of very great importance to the Graun. Their twisting and distortion of the truth is an appalling stain on their entire history, and that’s exactly why they want complete silence about it. It’s an embarrassment to them, and silencing it is probably a full-time job.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

Lady Arbuthnot:comment image

Open
Open

And the lady herebelow believes your lady represents a ‘fair and robust British justice system’.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/06/julie-bishop-coalition-should-lead-world-on-climate-despite-missteps-on-bushfires#img-1

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Various Austfailian regimes, particularly Coal-ition ones, have sabotaged efforts at COP meetings for decades. For Bishop to propose that the current rabble of hard Right, denialist, genocidaires should ‘lead the world’ is, superficially, extraordinarily ludicrous in a crudely preposterous way, but also makes one suspect that one of Bishop’s botox injections might have penetrated her reptilian ‘brain’.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Like an alien species, some malevolent arthropod or other.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Lady Annunakthnot.

Petra Liverani

What I find very sad is that so many documents leaked to Wikileaks will be frauds, not in that their source is not genuine but they were fabricated at their source so they are real in a sense but sham, eg, Collateral Murder.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/wikileaks-controlled-opposition.html

I was prompted to look up Dr David Kelly’s death which skeptics believe was caused by murder. I wondered. Could his death really have been neither suicide or murder but one of those oh-so-many “disappearances”. Is there some island where all the disappearees go to – another Epstein island that isn’t on the map?

Seriously, folks, all you have to do is look up Wikipedia. That is all you have to do. When you get to ludicrousness or something that makes you laugh heartily you know it’s fake. When I got to a certain point in Kelly’s page I laughed heartily. If anyone cares to read it perhaps you can put in the comments where it made you laugh, if it did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_(weapons_expert)

The hoaxery we have been subjected to defies comprehension. It is massive … but it is laid bare if only you care to look.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

“…so many documents leaked to Wikileaks will be frauds, not in that their source is not genuine but they were fabricated at their source so they are real in a sense but sham, eg, Collateral Murder.”

Did you type that with your fingers that are shorter on one hand than on the other or with your fingers that are longer on the other hand than on one?

Vierotchka
Vierotchka

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Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

David Kelly, living on an island somewhere while family and professional networks play along with the charade – is that what are saying?

Perhaps you didn’t know that just 3 hours after David Kelly’s death had been reported Tony Blair was instructing his former flatmate Lord Falconer to set up a Public Inquiry (conducted by Lord Hutton) rather than a coroners inquest – even though the grinning assassin was en route to Japan at the time, and could not been aware of the full circumstances leading up to the discovery of Kelly’s lifeless body.

Miles Goslett has investigated this episode in some detail and seems fairly certain that whatever it was that happened to David Kelly it wasn’t suicide, and while he doesn’t actually say it I doubt if he subscribes to the secret island theory either.

Petra Liverani

Harry, I know zero but I do understanding the coding in Wikipedia.

You seem to discount the possibility that everything is staged and that these seemingly upstanding figures may all be in it together. The finger pointing, the choice of Public Inquiry rather than coroner’s inquest – whatever, all staged, just like the 9/11 Commission. Did you read the Wikipedia article? Please read it and get back to me then. What you need to really take on board is that they control all narratives. They don’t just control the mass-directed narrative, they control ALL narratives. We need to let go of the narratives, of anything they tell us and look closely at the evidence ourselves. The thing is they always slip out the clues, they’re good that way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_(weapons_expert)

What they constantly do is report Event A while suggesting to the skeptics that actually it was Event B that happened. All along though what really happened is something entirely different, Event C.

It’s not that complicated really, is it? One story for the masses, one story for the skeptics but the reality being neither of the two stories but something else of a completely different nature. They do it all the time, 9/11 of course being the stand out. Not 19 terrorists, nor a false flag but a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as real.

What outcome has resulted? Zero, no?

Vierotchka
Vierotchka

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Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Masterly understatement.

milosevic
milosevic

They don’t just control the mass-directed narrative, they control ALL narratives.

It seems highly likely that they control YOUR narrative, anyway.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Have pity, milosevic-they are inside her head!

Petra Liversni

Just to add in the case of Jeffrey Epstein people are wise to the fact tbat it’s not Event A for the masses (suicide) nor Event B for the skeptics (murder) but Event C (whisked off somewhere) so not unreasonable to think that the same doesn’t also happen in other cases.

Petra Liverani

Did some further research and all else I’ve found sounds like nonsense. Of course, what they told us about JFK’s assassination was nonsense too, eg, the alleged assassin’s choice of weapon being a relic of Mussolini’s WWII forces, a Carcano, and JFK really was killed so maybe despite the complete and utter nonsense they tell us about Kelly’s alleged suicide they really did kill him but it would seem odd to me – to give the game away so very obviously: pruning knife, tablets although he suffered dysphagia (fear of swallowing) and unlikely bleeding to death through severance of the ulnar artery, and his means of trying to suicide – both pills and knife. And surely, his wife, the rest of his family, friends and colleagues would not just stand by like that. Then again the Kennedys did … and they stood by a second and third time. Such a puzzle.

Gall

They never found Bin Laden at his alleged “home” since he died in late 2001. But lets accept the myth that this was true. They also found books by various other authors at his alleged other hide out in Tora Bora as well. What they didn’t find was any plan to carry out 9/11, but I digress.

Including those by various journalists from various mainstream news publications such as the WaPo, NYT and horrors!!! The Guardian!!!

Shouldn’t those scribes that wrote those books be “returned” to the US as well?

By the way as far as know Julian has never set foot on US soil so how can he returned? Unless the USG presumptuously and arrogantly considers they own everything and everyone on the planet.

hotrod31
hotrod31

… Found at the house of OBL … haahhh! Haahhh! Haaa! What a total load of horse-manure. Who writes this crap?
Firstly, OBL was a figment of the CIA imagination, i.e. the boogey-man (Mark Osmand, or Osmond)) created for the sheeple or any other dills gullible enough to believe the crap from the architects of evil. Secondly, which home, the alleged cave-dwelling, or the fictitious digs in Pakistan?

Vierotchka
Vierotchka

Osama bin Laden’s name as a CIA agent was Tim Osman.

hotrod31
hotrod31

You’re spot on. Tah! My memory’s getting a wee bit addled with trying to keep up with the sheer volume of dung shoveled out by the ‘Security Industrial Complex.’ and their minions.

Gezzah Potts

I relented again, for the 2nd day in a row, and watched the SBS News coverage (here in Aussie) of the extradition hearing, and yep, they made sure to mention the Osama Bin Laden bollocks.
This is the sort of guff the slightly lefty bourgie types lap up with relish – the sort who fully believe the White Helmets are civil defence heroes; who believe the sun shines out of Obama’s rectum.
Those sorts… the comfortable middle class. The same type who fervently believe Assange is a rapist, yet completely ignore the millions of dead and displaced human beings in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya and Palestine and the horrors perpetrated on those countries, and tightly close their eyes to the sickening consequences of imperialism.
Yet screech…. ‘Rapist, rapist, you’re defending a rapist’ whenever the name Julian Assange is mentioned.
It’s almost too surreal….

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

Its worth dwelling on the selective outrage of what I am going to refer to as ‘the standard Guardian reader’ because this outrage tells us two things.

First and foremost it exposes utter indifference to horrific crimes committed in order to secure markets for economic predators – the main reason for this is that Iraqis, Syrians, Afghanis, Libyans, or Palestinians do not belong to PC groups that invoke the kind of authentic rage Guardian journalists (and their conditioned followers) exhibit should any individual step over certain lines that have been drawn for them.
When directly challenged about it they tend to reluctantly admit that, yes it was probably wrong for Tony Blair to buddy up with Bush in order to lay waste to the Middle East, but OMG, did you see what someone said on Twitter about ……. select from menu of oppressed groups the Guardian obsesses about, which strangely never seems to include the working class, nor, of course, Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans, Afghanis or Palestinians.

Secondly it reveals how far these attitudes are conditioned without news consumers fully understanding how or why they are being played, achieved through repeated exposure to contaminated, and often outright dishonest reporting – the sinister drip, drip, tactic.
Perhaps its a bit too much to expect Guardian disciples to undertake any research themselves presumably because it is far easier to let journalists do their thinking for them, even though this means accepting low-calibre dross churned out by the likes of Susanne Moore, Marina Hyde, Polly Toynbee, Nick Cohen, Jonathan Freedland, Luke Harding, or any of the others from a fairly long list.

What is utterly demoralising is way standard Guardian readers squawk like a flock of parrots, regurgitating lines fed to them in order to attack anyone who fails to subscribe to the dominant narrative, assuming, of course alterntive points of view have not already been deleted for failing to abide by community standards.
As we all know – not abiding by groupthink is a cardinal sin in Guardianland.

Gezzah Potts

Four words Harry: Hammer. Nail. Head. Bang.
Oh, and groupthink is rampant in Australia as well.
Nearly everyone I know is a Guardian reader, and it’s pointless trying to get them to wake up and sniff the coffee.
God knows I’ve tried many times.
You can’t wake people up that Don’t want to be woken up.
Appreciate your reply…

GEOFF
GEOFF

It’s easier to kid people ,than to convince therm they’re being kidded.

milosevic
milosevic

You can’t wake people up that Don’t want to be woken up.

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. — Upton Sinclair

Gezzah Potts

Appreciate the quote Milosevic…

Tony
Tony

Gezzah, feel free to download this photo I took on Saturday’s march, and show it to anyone who calls Julian a rapist:

https://twitter.com/tambonsi/status/1231506480219795457

Gezzah Potts

Thanks for this Tony. From the coverage on the news here, looked to be a lot of people in the march in London. Keep up the fight…

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

For many of the man-hating Nordic feminazis, sex with a man, under any circumstances, is ‘rape’. In a perverted way it reduces the true horror and suffering of real sexual assaults. The one-issue fanatics are destroying the magnificent edifice of ‘Western Civilization’ by reducing its to a series of one-dimensional pantomimes.

Ken Kenn
Ken Kenn

Apparently the Taliban Rebels used to call Bin Laden ” Posh Boy” but because he came mainly armed with cash they tolerated him.

The Taliban rebels whatever else you may think of them are tough nuts and a Saudi posh boy who would cry at chipping his nails would make them laugh.

A bit like Boris Johnson mopping up.

Hilarious!

surferdave
surferdave

How does James Lewis QC live with the sick irony that he is slandering Assange in court with unverifiable hearsay (documents at OBL’s place) that is based on an apparent international state crime – extrajudicial murder on foreign soil!
OBL’s death was a crime, pure and simple, no arrest, no evidence, no court proceedings in absentia, and the body disposed of in such a way that we ordinary folks can never have confidence it was actually OBL!

Petra Liverani

Oh come on, OBL, was long dead before he “died”. What a complete and utter joke.

Petra Liverani

I repeat my generally ignored or derided 2 cents worth.

Chelsea Manning is an intelligence asset and Collateral Murder is a faked video created for the purposes of infiltration of Assange and Wikileaks.

Two pieces of evidence but there’s more:

— No one could look more perky than Chelsea in her oh-so-friendly interview on MSM with Juju Chang, ABC’s Nightline anchor and member of the Council on Foreign Relations, after her alleged 7 year incarceration. Today Chelsea looks stunning, nothing like the very sad state we see Julian in.

— The audio track of Collateral Murder shows signs of being genuine snippets of audio stitched together over faked footage with lots of dust to hide the staged death and injury. Dust works magic in psyops, it really does.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/wikileaks-controlled-opposition.html

Julian’s legal team show signs of being infiltrators. Jennifer Robinson is the niece of Peter Lawler, career diplomat and Cooperator of the Prelature of the Holy Cross & Opus Dei. His son, Michael Lawler, who seems very dodgy, is infamous for using the word “cuntstruck” on 4 Corners. People’s relations don’t necessarily mean anything, of course, I mean some of my own are pretty dodgy, but the thing is that Jennifer showed pride in Peter receiving one award or another.

Mark Summers, another lawyer, has a dodgy CV that includes a number of staged events.
https://www.matrixlaw.co.uk/member/mark-summers/

Then, of course, there’s the article by Judy Komisar, exposing the links between Bill Browder and Julian’s lawyers.
https://off-guardian.org/2019/11/08/assange-lawyers-links-to-us-govt-bill-browder-raises-questions/

Unfortunately, it is astounding how once a lie has been accepted, how difficult it is to blow it away and call it out. I have spoken to those close to Julian’s case and they just wave me away. It’s as if turning on a dime now to recognise the dupery is simply too difficult, too inconvenient, even though not recognising will surely lead to far worse consequences.

Amy Turdling
Amy Turdling

Nice try Petra – but no need to expend such effort – we already know whose side you are on

hotrod31
hotrod31

Do elaborate, please. I’m a born sucker and have fallen for some of the oblique perspectives viewed courtesy of Petra’s prism …
To show what a sucker I am, I once thought that Malcolm Turnbull had noble principles …

Anonymous Bosch
Anonymous Bosch

Thank you for your enquiry – If you want an elaboration of my position here, then scroll down and read Rhys Jagger’s excellent piece – sums it all up very well

Gezzah Potts

Pretty much all the comments here nail it.
This extradition hearing is a complete travesty.
Expose the truth about mass murder and war crimes and the murder of journalists, not to mention the destruction of entire countries…. and face up to a 175 years sentence in an American Gulag.
Merely for exposing the truth of Western imperialism and rank barbarism.
How are the people of Fallujah doing? Or in Yemen. Or Syria. And I note yet another child (8 yrs old) in occupied Palestine shot in the head the other day.
Until much much larger numbers of people stand up and say No… Ya Basta, nothing will change.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Fallujah makes me think-Assange is being lynched for revealing war crimes while Molan, the ‘hero’ of the last Fallujah assault and multiple war crimes and easily, in my opinion, the most sinister figure in our politics, sits in the Senate, adored by every extreme Rightwing goon in the country.

Gezzah Potts

Molan, and all those who fawn at his feet, including the presstitutes, represent the perfect example of the ethical and moral bankruptcy rampant in this country.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

‘Fifty’ incidents of ‘alleged’ war-crimes by Austfailian troops in Afghanistan being investigated. The fanatic, ‘Christian’ fundamentalist, Sinophobe Hastie was in Afghanistan, was he not? As an SAS killer, and involved in some highly dubious ‘operations’ in the War for Western Values against Terror. I see from his semi-hagiographic Wikipedia entry that he also either an anthropogenic climate destabilisation denialist, or someone who doesn’t appear concerned-perhaps he expects to be ‘Raptured’ like ‘Smoko’ Morrison.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

Here are some crimes the US has committed, repeatedly:

1. Leaving vast amounts of depleted uranium and Agent Orange over foreign lands, in wars not pursued due to clear and present danger to US territory.

Are we saying that all the deaths caused by that are as nothing but uploading a few memos and exposing Halitosis Hall, DC division, as being a criminally corrupt organisation is likely to incite nuclear war?

2. Overthrowing governments all over the world for the prime aim of looting the economies of those nations for TNC gain.

Are we saying that gangsterism is the new ‘normal’? I know it has been normal for US State Department, but to the billions of people who do have a conscience, it is the absolute opposite of normal.

3. Committing mass murder at home on 9/11 to ‘justify’ mass murder overseas:

Since when was killing your own residents acceptable global leadership?

NEVER.

4. We could do with a Julian Assange receiving documents to cover climate warfare using HAARP technology; the development and use of genetically engineered bioweapons in the 21st century; an audit of gold misappropriation in the UK and the US and who the parties having had their property stolen were; and we could do with comprehensive leaking of funding streams emanating from US sources, black or white, used to fund terror organisations such as Al Qa’Ida/IDLIB and any other number of bogey outfits we are told are fighting us but are actually funded by our own governments.

None of that would threaten national security.

It would destroy reputations of those whose reputations need destroying and hopefully would lead to huge numbers of private sector executives being banned for life from ever operating at such levels again.

But of course, honesty and integrity is the new criminality.

Because gangsterism and mass murder is the new morality.

Well, it is until the people of the world stand up and say, with finality: ‘NOT IN OUR NAME!’

Anonymous Bosch
Anonymous Bosch

From what you have written Rhys, it appears to me that the fires of justice are continually being doused by the hegemon and that it is up to all of us to keep blowing with all our might on the dying embers – but the embers are still glowing – we must persevere in the face of all this evil – thank you for your informed and enlightened commentary – Petra will hate it !

paul
paul

Julian Assange doesn’t exist.
There’s nothing on him in the MSM.
He must be a figment of your imagination.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee

Very reminiscent of Harold Pinter’s last speech.

”It didn’t happen, it doesn’t matter, and even when it was happening it wasn’t happening.”

This is how the MSM works. Anything that puts the oligarchy in a negative light is simply disappeared. This is either a totalitarian mindset, or a schizophrenic one, or maybe both.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum

Assange is making the Drainstream news, in Australia at least.
I’ve seen reports on the ABC news site and even in Murdoch’s Herald Scum.
Maybe some editors are getting nervous because of the implications for them.

Gezzah Potts

Relented on my boycott of the MSM (mainstream presstitutes propaganda) yesterday and today, and reports on Channel 9, ABC and SBS on the London protests yesterday and today outside the Court House, with brief interviews of some of the protestors including Roger Waters and Vivienne Westwood, and John Shipton a couple times also.
I don’t know whether Ch 7 or 10 covered it, as this was about all I could stomach myself.
But, yeah, coverage is gaining some traction, tho still needs a lot lot more people to kick up a ruckus about this grotesque injustice.
Caitlin Johnstone spoke at the rally on Sunday, was excellent, and transcript of her speech on her blog site.
Have a good evening FD…

Antonym
Antonym

Are you doing a “Petra Liverani”?

bob
bob

This is not justice

One way of keeping up maybe to check in on this feed throughout the week:

https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman

Why is Consortium News so precious about this – constantly removing comments of note over weeks now?

Nothing on Sky or BBC as far as I’m aware – although confess I hate this pair and try not to watch

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

“Breaking: QC for the US at Julian #Assange extradition hearing says documents from Wikileaks were found at the home of Osama Bin Laden when it was raided by American troops.”

You mean to tell me that Osama Bin Laden actually had an internet connection? 😀

Ken Kenn
Ken Kenn

Seamus:

Don’t forget according to similar sources Bin laden was hiding in various caves directing his fiendish terrorists by mobile phone.

How you manage that 400 miles away from a mobile phone mast ?( if Afghanistan only has a few of them away from Kabul) and even manage to have the audacity to pull off 9/11 from the very same cave(s).

Perhaps Murdoch or Beardy Branson supply the Afghani peasantry secretly with fast speed Broadband connection – or all this crap isn’t true?

Unless Sir Trevor Bailey had invented the wind up mobile phone and internet connection but told no -one?

Bin Laden couldn’t have had Wikileaks documents as he wasn’t there.

He was already dead and maybe his death occurred in the US or Saudi Arabia?

Oh – I forgot that one too – Bin Laden was on dialysis treatment later in life so apart from the mobile phone – the internet connection he also needed electricity in all of his hidden cave(s) to keep the whole terrorist show on the road.

Moral of the tale – Assange tells the truth – the US with the assistance of many others tells a complete pack of lies.

One’s buried at sea despite that never being a Muslim practice and the other could be buried metaphorically speaking in the US.

The media questions Assanges’ role to the n’th degree but unblinkingly swallows wholesale
the tale of Bin laden and his role in 9/11.

Crazy but true.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

No-Assange hand-delivered them to his old friend.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

‘Damaging US interests’, and, more to the point in post-Corbyn UK, Israeli interests, is a de facto crime, punishable by rendition, torture, disappearances, drone-missile obliteration, murderous sanctions, bio-warfare, Kidon death-squads etc. The sorry, sad, farce of the UK class-based ‘Common Law’ being used as a means to inflict punishment is just a side-show, a ghastly farce of open, undisguised, bias and hatred.