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Julian Assange, the Glass Cage and Heaven in a Rage: Day Four

Binoy Kampmark

Thursday, February 27, Woolwich Crown Court. The first round of extradition hearings regarding Julian Assange’s case concluded a day early, to recommence on May 18th.

It ended on an insensible note very much in keeping with the woolly-headed reasoning of Judge Vanessa Baraitser, who is of the view that a WikiLeaks publisher in a cage does not put all heaven in a rage.

On Wednesday, Assange’s defence had requested whether he would be able to leave the confines of his glass cage and join his legal team. As Assange had explained in response to his nodding off during proceedings, “I cannot meaningfully communicate with my lawyers.” There was little point in “asking” if he could follow proceedings without enabling his participation.

This was not a point that fell on reasonable ears. The judge felt it came too close to a bail application, and was initially refused as posing a potential risk to the public.

Gibberish was duly thrown at counsel for both sides, with “health and safety”, “risk assessment” and “up to Group 4” featuring as meaningless terms on the obvious: that Assange could pose no threat whatsoever, as he would be in the continuous company of security guards.

As former UK diplomat Craig Murray observed,

“She started to resemble something worse than a Dalek, a particularly stupid local government officer of a very low grade.”

According to the judge, to permit such a measure of access between Assange and his team effectively constituted a departure from court custody, a striking nonsense of Dickensian dimensions. Not even the prosecution felt it unreasonable, suggesting that one need not be so “technical” in granting such applications.

Thursday’s proceedings reaffirmed Judge Baraitser’s stubborn position. Her first gesture was to permit Assange a pair of headphones to better enable him to hear the proceedings, followed by a brief adjournment to see if his hearing had, in fact, improved. Assange was unimpressed, removing them after 30 minutes.

Her stretched reasoning found Assange sufficiently accessible to his lawyers despite his glassed surrounds; he could still communicate with them via notes passed through the barrier. “It is quite apparent over the past four days that you have had no difficulty communicating with your legal team.”

The judge was willing to permit Assange a later start in proceedings to enable a meeting with the legal team and adjourn should the defence wish to meet their client in a holding cell.

That so complex a case as extradition can be reduced to sporadic notes passed to legal counsel and staggered adjournments suggests the continued hobbling of the defence by the authorities. Its invidiousness lies in how seemingly oblivious the judicial mind is to the scope of the case, complexity reduced to a matter of meetings, small points of procedure and law.

The defence team submitted that the process of consultation suggested by the judge unduly prolonged proceedings, rendering them cumbersome and insensible. The court might have to adjourn ever three minutes for a 20-minute break. To constantly take Assange to and from his holding cell was would unnecessarily lengthen proceedings and complicate matters. Judge Baraitser was dismissive of such argument, claiming that the defence was merely exaggerating.

The legal issues discussed on the fourth day centred on quibbling over the issue of espionage and its nexus with political activity. Espionage, suggested James Lewis QC for the US-driven prosecution, need not be political. Nor did it seem that Assange was intent on bringing down the US government.

“It can’t possibly be said that there is a political struggle in existence between the American government and opposing factions.”

Lewis, as has been his approach from the start, preferred a more restrictive interpretation about what a “political” offence might be, notably in connection with extradition.

“Extradition is based on conduct, it is not anymore based on the names of offences.”

In a rather crude, end-of-history line of thought, Lewis argued that political offences were “dated” matters, hardly applicable to modern societies which no longer see dissidents upholding the values of liberal democracy. (It seems that the tree of liberty, according to the US prosecution, no longer needs urgent refreshment.)

Besides, argued Lewis, the court did “not need to resolve these issues, but they demonstrate that any bare assertion that Wikileaks was engaged in a struggle with the US government was in opposition to it or was seeking to bring about a policy change would need to be examined far more closely.”

That is exactly what the defence contended. Assange’s core activities in publishing had been based on altering US policy, with Iraq and Afghanistan being key theatres. “Why was he seeking to publish the rules of engagement?”, posed the defence. “They were published to show that war crimes were being committed, to show they breached their own rules of engagement.”

Ditto the publication of the Guantanamo files, an act done to reveal the extent of torture being undertaken during the course of the “war on terror”. All these, contended Edward Fitzgerald QC for the defence, did change government policy.

“WikiLeaks didn’t just seek to induce change, it did induce change.”

The documentary record on Assange’s political activity in this regard is thick, much of it from the contentions of US officials themselves. The US State Department preferred to see him, as former spokesman PJ Crowley did in 2010, a “political actor” with “a political agenda”, rather than being a journalist.

Incidentally, Crowley’s link with WikiLeaks has a curious end, with his resignation in 2011 following comments made about the treatment of Chelsea (then Bradley) Manning at the Quantico marine base in Virginia.

“What is being done to Bradley Manning,” he claimed at an MIT seminar that March, “is ridiculous and counterproductive and stupid on the part of the department of defence.” Not an entirely bad egg, then.

Dr. Binoy Kampmark was a Commonwealth Scholar at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He lectures at RMIT University, Melbourne. Email: [email protected]

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Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Mar 10, 2020 8:40 AM

A tale of Tertulias and Tatlidil which connects directly to Assanges persecution.

‘Tatlidil, which means “sweet talk” in Turkish, was established in 2011 by then prime minister David Cameron and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.’

‘American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a highly secretive meeting organised by the most influential neoconservative think tank in Washington populated by senior US military and intelligence officials.’

‘Declassified recently revealed how the AEI, which has a strongly anti-Assange position, has been courting British ministers for years.’

‘The Foreign Office has long taken a strong anti-Assange position, rejecting UN findings in his favour, refusing to recognise the political asylum given to him by Ecuador, and even labelling Assange a “miserable little worm”.’

‘Liz Truss, then Justice Secretary, “advised” the Queen to appointLady Arbuthnot in October 2016.’ (As Chief Magistrate in Westminster)

‘Declassified has discovered that the addresses given by Lord Arbuthnot and other parliamentarians for Tertulias and Tatlidil have been the same — despite no obvious connection between the two organisations other than the UK Foreign Office.’

———

The above is derived from the new setup ‘Declassified UK’ written by Matt Kennard and Mark Curtis – i don’t know much about it’s authenticity, being early days – but it is one of a stunning set of stories from their new stable which I have been perusing here
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/declassified-uk/

(The cast of characters takes in the above summary stars many of the ‘dogs of whores’ of our establishment from Straw to Scarlett to Randy Andy to Truss AND the Arbuthnots … and it shows that it is almost a PERSONAL animosity against Julian Assange by the British and American state)

Craig Murray has called for a mass turnout at the Woolwich kangaroo in May – lets get thousands!

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Mar 6, 2020 1:19 AM

5 Mar 2020

In this video independent journalists Gordon Dimmack and Taylor Hudak talk in detail about Julian Assange’s court hearings that took place last week. This includes developments inside the court, activist actions outside of it and the coverage of corporate media.

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Mar 4, 2020 4:21 PM

John Shipton, Assange’s father, speaks with RT Documentary in EXCLUSIVE interview

4 Mar 2020

‘He was never anti-American’ – Assange’s father in exclusive interview to RT Documentary

Julian Assange has never been anti-American, says John Shipton, father of WikiLeaks’ founder. In an interview with RTD, Shipton offers a look at Assange’s political views and formative years in an underground hacking community. He then goes on to explain where the idea behind WikiLeaks came from and how creating the whistleblowing site led to bombshell revelations. Julian’s father also weighs in on the Swedish rape allegations that trapped the journalist in the Ecuadorian Embassy for almost eight years, as well as claims that he had Russia ties.

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Mar 3, 2020 8:55 PM

An excellent documentary:

The Assange Story

WikiLeaks founder’s journey from whistleblowing hero to exile

https://rtd.rt.com/films/julian-assange-story-wikileaks-founder-journey/

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Mar 1, 2020 7:55 PM

Whilst everyone recognises that Craig Murray was the main journalist source during the Assange Trial, last week and Chris Hedges, was not claiming to be there – this is a Great Interview with Joe Lauria of Consortium News

“ON CONTACT: Julian Assange Extradition with Joe Lauria”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXtpaWyNjKg&feature=youtu.be

Tony

michaelk
michaelk
Mar 1, 2020 5:01 PM

I suppose, to cut a long story short, it’s precisely because this ‘trial’ is so incredibly important for so may reasons, that the journalists have turned away from it and have ‘blinded’ the people. That’s what they are there for these days. That’s really rather depressing.

michaelk
michaelk
Mar 1, 2020 2:53 PM

It’s still… weird though, that this trial, taking place in London, dealing with so many important questions and principles is receiving so conspicuously little media coverage. It’s even stranger considering it’s about the extradition of a world famous journalist and publisher; which ‘under normal’ circumstances one would imagine that most journalists, because they are, after all, journalists too; would find on a personal and professional level, that what’s happening massively important, fascinating and worrying, as the extradition of Assange and his treatment could potentially affect them directly as well in the future. Huge principles, attitudes and interpretations of the law in relation to the practice of journalism are at stake. Not least the protections and liabilities of journalists carrying out their work, if they produce and publish material powerful states don’t want published, for whatever reason.

So the silence and apparent disinterest of the journalistic profession in the UK and US is quite extraordinary and deeply worrying indeed. It’s like we already live in a totalitarian state where people are ‘afraid’ to cover a story that involves someone like Assange/Wikileaks, precisely because they’ve ‘got the message’ about Assange and the dark and powerful forces determined to destroy him. And that sends a shiver down the spine because we aren’t supposed to live in a state where virtually all the journalists are scared and have gotten the state’s message about Assange.

It’s also terrible that the journalists have accepted the US ‘framing narrative’ about Assange, one that’s so false and untruthful. That he’s not really a journalist or a proper publisher and therefore isn’t being persecuted for any of that but because he’s a Russian spy! That the journalists swallow this ridiculous propaganda, with such terrible consequences to follow, is both disgraceful and terrifying.

michaelk
michaelk
Mar 1, 2020 7:49 AM

I remember being in London on the day of the huge rally in Hyde Park against the coming war on Iraq. Huge marches and rallies were held in other cities and all over Europe as well.

What the establishment learnt from that moment was that it must never be allowed to happen again. Even though the media at the time was mostly ‘on message’ and disciplined, there were tiny cracks that let the light in to shine, fleetingly, on the truth. Channel Four had a satire programme Bremner, Bird and Fortune that regularly demolished the entire reasoning and arguments for the coming attack on Iraq. There was more ‘politics’ and opposition in that one programme than in the rest of the media put together. Also, while I remember, John Pilger was allowed space in the Daily Mirror to ask critical and relevant quetions.

Anyway, that’s all ancient history now. Since then there’s been a political and cultural clampdown on virtually all forms of questioning, criticism or dissent about our overseas wars. The Guardian, for example, was ritually ‘castrated’ by the Security Services in their own offices! A strong message was sent and understood. Since then the Guardian has never been the same.

Assange and Wikileaks was quickly identified as a platform that wasn’t to be ‘trusted.’ It wasn’t under control and couldn’t ‘take a hint.’

Also, I sure that the editors of all the main news platforms have recieved confidential briefings from the security apparatus and politicians explaining what they ‘know’ about the true nature of the Wikileaks model and how it’s being ’employed’ to undermine fundamental western ‘interests’, knowingly or unknowingly. Editors don’t want to be seen as ‘unpatriotic’, after all, don’t you know there’s a war on!

Brian Eggar
Brian Eggar
Feb 29, 2020 10:37 PM

The most telling part of this trial is the totalitarian and complete absence of coverage by the BBC and other mainstream outlets.

You must wonder what threats or other inducements have been made and even the reason why they complied for this to happen.

Do they regard Assange guilty of the charges that the US have brought against or do they feel that there is far more important news to comment on like Boris’s engagement and that the whole of the trial is of little consequence.

The only thing that does emerge is that the whole of mainstream media is just a hollow sham and is only designed to supply bread and circuses to the masses which means that Deep State have succeeded in their endeavours and that the battle for free speech has been completely lost.

As for British Justice, we are now left with just the remaining ashes of a vassal state with America as our overlord. It will be interesting in the USUK trade negotiations if we accept as paramount all American law relating to patents, copyright, intellectual property and anything else they would like to throw into the mix. David Davis said sometime ago that he would like details of any agreement to remain secret for at least five years. Can anybody explain just why he felt it might be necessary to do this.

As commented by others when it comes to war crimes it is only those who report on them who have committed a crime whilst those who have broken every law in the book go free.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:39 AM
Reply to  Brian Eggar

‘Threats’, ‘complied’-come on. The BBC sewer is the Tory Party in disinfo brainwashing mode. They know their duty, to their class and to the Eternal Atlanticist Empire.

Shardlake
Shardlake
Mar 1, 2020 1:19 PM
Reply to  Brian Eggar

Hello Brian :

Do they regard Assange guilty of the charges that the US have brought against or do they feel that there is far more important news to comment on like Boris’s engagement and that the whole of the trial is of little consequence.

I’m not sure if you are referring to his engagement in this whole process regarding Mr Assange or to Mr Johnson’s latest mistress who I see has announced that she is pregnant. Either way it seems to me the TV stations and print media are prepared to put up any story or news line up to fill their time slots and column inches with irrelevant drivel rather than carry out their true function of informing and educating the public. I am unable to share in Mr Johnson’s newly announced fatherhood and am inclined to take the same view as Gordon Brown’s nemesis (Brenda from Bristol) “Oh no ! not another one” !

I am persuaded by MichaelK, above, that MSM editors may well have been privately leaned on not to pursue accounts of anything coming near to the truth of the matter with the Westminster court hearings. MSM Editors’ main preoccupations are with viewing ratings or circulation sales and I don’t think they really care that much; if they did, their journalists would be up in arms about the treatment of one of their own through the NUJ.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 29, 2020 6:39 PM

“It can’t possibly be said that there is a political struggle in existence between the American government and opposing factions.”

FFS. Only a completely morally corrupted & wholly ignorant & poorly educated Lawyer could say this . . .

Clearly a complete C**T, who sold his soul & deserves a physical beating, I mean a severe thrashing to within an inch of his life, unequivocally including waterboarding and then a minimum sentence of 30 years in GITmo, with Bush Blair Merkel Macron May & Haspel as cell mates, to lick his wounds, daily …

Unless he agrees to drop the apostrophe ‘t’, he employed >>> so, to correct this immoral ass >>>

“It can possibly be said that there is a political struggle in existence between the American government and opposing factions.”

His original words make zero sense of ANY reality and you’d have to be a silver spoon fed swivel eyed loon & a pompous sociopathic C**T, to think otherwise. What do you call 1000 Lawyers chained to a concrete element at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean ? >>> A GOOD START …
start with Lewis !

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 29, 2020 7:03 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Sorry for the outburst, but when you see & relive the consequences of ‘American Exceptionalism’, daily, on the Balkans, with a legacy of Depleted Uranium Munitions to boot, this case began to make me very very angry & distressed, from the outset and there comes a time when Judges, Lawyers & Court rooms become meaningless, so far removed from reality that brutal force & shock treatment becomes essential and this moment has come …
Justice my ass, such sick jokers, sick in the head, in every sense & scientific detail, everybody in the legal profession needs to hang their heads in shame and be treated like Julian Assange, for a decade ! In which time, they will be forced to study the science of Depleted Uranium Munitions, White Phosphorous &&& and THEIR FUCKING LEGACY !

Lewis should be afraid to continue in his profession,
thus the censorship . . .

Indeed, Lewis should be afraid to ever show his sociopathic GITmofo-face in public,
ever again, seriously: WTF is wrong with people & the legal profession ?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:40 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Come on-depleted uranium will be harmless in two billion years. Why the griping?

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Mar 1, 2020 11:50 AM

Depleted Uranium has a half-life of 4.5 billion years, which means that it will have lost half of its radioactivity in 4.5 billion years.

According to an international legal team preparing a lawsuit against NATO, 10–15 tons of depleted uranium was used during the 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia. In a three-week period of conflict in Iraq during 2003, it was estimated that over 1000 tons of depleted uranium munitions were used. 800 to 1000 tons of depleted uranium was used in Afghanistan.

The depleted uranium used in these wars dispersed as nano particles which lie in the dust, have penetrated in the soil and even leaked down to the aquifers, so it is in the vegetables grown in those places, in the animals whose meat people eat, in the air each time the wind stirs up dust, and in the water people drink.

Depleted Uranium is the poisoned gift that keeps on giving and will keep on giving forever (by human standards of time).

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Mar 1, 2020 12:01 PM

Whatever you do, do NOT smoke Afghan hashish, it likely contains massive amounts of DU nanoparticles.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Mar 1, 2020 11:40 PM
Reply to  Vierotchka

Thanks for the links, Vieri and the sadly rational comment.

Me wondering about the opium, too, that is being traded in exchange for arms, transported by Silkway Airlines, via Transit Hub Azerbaijan, as revealed by Dilyana Gaytandzhieva, a truly professional journalist, that discovered so many crates of weapons from Bulgaria in Aleppo, after finding shrapnel with Cyrillic in the decapitated bodies of a mother and child …

You probably recall.
Words never suffice … to quantify such dumbfuk human stupidity.
Damn the U.N. … NATO must be disbanded: declared Criminal.

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle
Feb 29, 2020 1:50 PM

Once upon a time we had cultural commentators like Peter Cook who less than 24 hours after the Jeremy Thorpe fiasco produced this piece of magic – now we have ‘woke comedians’ too busy shitting themselves to actually say anything that matters about the horrible dystopia enveloping us all. all.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyos-M48B8U

Come on comedians Baraister puts Justice Cantley to shame, what ever happened to satire?

paul
paul
Feb 29, 2020 6:27 PM
Reply to  Harry Stotle

Happy days. That was when Private Eye was worth reading.
Before it was taken over by that slimy little Establishment turd Hislop.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:41 AM
Reply to  paul

‘..slimy little Establishment turd..’ is magnificently tautologous.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Feb 29, 2020 12:34 PM

“political actor” with “a political agenda”, rather than being a journalist.

It’s actually a fair point. I support Assange in his mission to reveal the truth, and at the time I never considered Wikileaks anything other than a political outfit whose purpose was to encourage leaks of information and then to disseminate it, principally for political reasons to hit our oppressors and liers.

iskratov
iskratov
Feb 29, 2020 9:40 AM

Spoon River Anthology. 1916.

Carl Hamblin

THE PRESS of the Spoon River Clarion was wrecked,
And I was tarred and feathered,
For publishing this on the day the Anarchists were hanged in Chicago:
“I saw a beautiful woman with bandaged eyes
Standing on the steps of a marble temple. 5
Great multitudes passed in front of her,
Lifting their faces to her imploringly.
In her left hand she held a sword.
She was brandishing the sword,
Sometimes striking a child, again a laborer, 10
Again a slinking woman, again a lunatic.
In her right hand she held a scale;
Into the scale pieces of gold were tossed
By those who dodged the strokes of the sword.
A man in a black gown read from a manuscript: 15
‘She is no respecter of persons.’
Then a youth wearing a red cap
Leaped to her side and snatched away the bandage.
And lo, the lashes had been eaten away
From the oozy eye-lids; 20
The eye-balls were seared with a milky mucus;
The madness of a dying soul
Was written on her face—
But the multitude saw why she wore the bandage.”

iskratov
iskratov
Feb 29, 2020 10:18 AM
Reply to  iskratov

Lee Masters’ poem that Licia Pinelli wanted as an epigraph on her husband’s grave
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Pinelli

Randy
Randy
Feb 29, 2020 8:17 AM

We need to rebel against this corrupt system. Playing hippy and peace maker does not work as all it does it still give way for these corrupt activities. It’s time to use force.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:44 AM
Reply to  Randy

Randy-that’s EXACTLY what they want. How long do you think your plucky latter-day Minutemen would last? About a minute.

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 29, 2020 7:37 AM

Mark Davis eye witness report of Julian Assange’s journalistic competence in the Guardian’s “bunker” in 2010 over the likes of the NYT, Der Spiegel and the Guardian. Julian was the most careful with the lives of potentially exposed players.

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 29, 2020 7:53 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Wikileaks published all cables finally 2 days AFTER the NYT, Guardian and Spiegel: they were planned to be released a few hours before these big three but that didn’t happen…

Eric McCoo
Eric McCoo
Feb 29, 2020 4:16 AM

That the Arab Spring was an American intelligence operation was so obvious it was picked up by major newspapers.

Telegraph

“Egypt protests: America’s secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising

The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

NY Times

U.S. Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings

The money spent on these programs was minute compared with efforts led by the Pentagon. But as American officials and others look back at the uprisings of the Arab Spring, they are seeing that the United States’ democracy-building campaigns played a bigger role in fomenting protests than was previously known, with key leaders of the movements having been trained by the Americans in campaigning, organizing through new media tools and monitoring elections.

LA Times

Why Egypt doesn’t trust us

Private pro-democracy groups funded by the U.S. have a troubling history.

But many in Congress felt that the program’s problem lay only in its ties to the CIA. Cut those ties and make everything aboveboard, they argued, and the attempt to win hearts and minds to the American way would be useful and benign. In the 1980s, during the Reagan administration, Congress created the National Endowment for Democracy to take the place of the defunct CIA program.

Silent Chapter
Silent Chapter
Feb 29, 2020 4:58 AM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

Tell us, where do we get these glass boxes from? Are they expensive?

I know some folks who disagree with the government. Western justice dictates that they should be locked up and tortured.

Eric McCoo
Eric McCoo
Feb 29, 2020 5:09 AM
Reply to  Silent Chapter

I suspect the glass case is to make Assange look like a persecuted victim/folk hero to ludicrous fantasists like Craig Murray.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 29, 2020 11:35 AM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

Isn’t it wonderful that you are [email protected] and able to articulate your suspicions,
freely ? As ludicrous as you may sound, we have no desire to lock you up and restrict your ability to sound completely LUDICROUS ?

It’s called Freedom (without censorship) and were I to need evidence of how ludicrous your thought processes are, in legal terms, we could make a film together, called …

‘Carry on Commenting’ 🙂

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Feb 29, 2020 12:32 PM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

What we have here Mr MgCuckoo is a limited hang out by you coo.

Twitter has strangled Murrays feed today as the i.i. Spooks and msm bigwigs feel the strain from their readers.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1233676691173715968

Now go over to there and beg to be allowed to lick his shoes !
Or just send him £100 for a job well done.

Eric McCoo
Eric McCoo
Feb 29, 2020 1:55 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Yes I’m sure Twitter has strangled the little guy’s feed. He’s so dangerous to the world global order. LOL !!

He’s a ludicrous man who is so ludicrous he’s the only ambassador to have a BBC comedy series (Mitchell, Web) made about him

It’s called ‘Ambassadors’.

His idiocy is fully revealed in this article where he accuses Nicola Sturgeon of getting her friends to falsely accuse Alex Salmond of sexual offences in a very thinly disguised satire. To prevent him being sued.. The accusers cannot be identified.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/01/yes-minister-fan-fiction/

Even the SNP rejected him as a candidate. He wants Scotland to forget the formal procedures and rise up against the English oppressor despite being English himself.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Feb 29, 2020 3:47 PM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

Mr McGoo you are funny 😂 – so you are one of dem Proyet type Loonys who do great bit of squizzle spotting – coo coo de coo mcgoo.

Do tell us why the friends of Nicola can’t be named in the action against Salmond – I mean in this age of ‘me too’ when such giants as Weinstein get justiced surely they should be rushing to shout the same! Do tell us if you know.

Maybe you should take up your bumbling act over at Craig’s blog yourself and let the man answer for himself or are you frit?

Eric McCoo
Eric McCoo
Feb 29, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

It’s in wee Craigie’s wee article that I linked to

“Perm Sec It can’t be traced back to you, Minister.
Minister Phew, that’s a relief. It can’t be traced back to me you say. How does that work?

Perm Sec Accuser anonymity, Minister.
Minister Accuser anon… oh yes! Oh yes! I am beginning to see!! They are sexual allegations so…

Perm Sec The identities of the accusers can be kept hidden by the court under penalty of severe jail sentences for anybody who reveals them so…

Minister …the accusers can just be my closest political cronies and the public will never be aware of that! That’s brilliant, Perm Sec!

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/01/yes-minister-fan-fiction/

Is he completely insane ? What do you think ?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Feb 29, 2020 4:36 PM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

You bumbling blind mcGoo – I read the article when it came and also his reason for writing it at the time.

And subjudacie means something – if you don’t concur NAME the names right here! If not the doors right next to you don’t walk into the wall as you leave …bye thanks for the laugh 😂

Eric McCoo
Eric McCoo
Feb 29, 2020 5:43 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I’m not a mental case. I didn’t write the utterly insane article. The wee boy himself wrote exactly why he thought Sturgeon had used her dodgy pals to stitch up Alex Salmond. Nothing to do with sub judice.

Spelling: sub judice

Aren’t you completely out of your depth here ?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Feb 29, 2020 6:21 PM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

You seem to have mot only smacked into the furniture but walked into a cupboard on your way out McCGoo you blind fool.

I’m all thumb typing and you are a great teacher of spelling – but if it ain’t sub judice – why don’t YOU name the accusers like I already said.

The only wee boy around here is the pisspoor stink emanating from your lying pants which are burning.

CM wrote that article when he thought he may not survive a heart ailment as he made clear at the time and he wanted to get the issue on the table – you can be sure that should something happen to him – he will have plenty that will be published without any further legal risk to him.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:46 AM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

Of course you’re not a mental case, sweetie. You’d need a brain to be a ‘mental case’.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 29, 2020 5:52 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Mr. McCoo-Coo seems to have gone silent or switched to airplane mode 🙂 until he can contact his boss,
for fresh advice & new angles to grind, lol

I’m sure his ‘Brigadier’ was hoping for better …

But hay ‘Dung’, sure smells better than a plain straw-diet-man >>> and I should know, having had cows & horses 🙂

Globally warmest regards,
before the heatwave,
Timbo 🙂

Eric McCoo
Eric McCoo
Feb 29, 2020 4:14 AM

That the Arab Spring was an American intelligence operation was so obvious it was picked up by major newspapers.

“Egypt protests: America’s secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising

The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html

U.S. Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings

The money spent on these programs was minute compared with efforts led by the Pentagon. But as American officials and others look back at the uprisings of the Arab Spring, they are seeing that the United States’ democracy-building campaigns played a bigger role in fomenting protests than was previously known, with key leaders of the movements having been trained by the Americans in campaigning, organizing through new media tools and monitoring elections.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/world/15aid.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&emc=eta1

Why Egypt doesn’t trust us

Private pro-democracy groups funded by the U.S. have a troubling history.

But many in Congress felt that the program’s problem lay only in its ties to the CIA. Cut those ties and make everything aboveboard, they argued, and the attempt to win hearts and minds to the American way would be useful and benign. In the 1980s, during the Reagan administration, Congress created the National Endowment for Democracy to take the place of the defunct CIA program.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/07/opinion/la-oe-meisler-prodemocracy-20120306

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:47 AM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

Egypt was a regime renewal operation. Out with Mubarrak, in with another Pentagon-trained psychopathic stooge, al-Sisi.

Eric McCoo
Eric McCoo
Feb 29, 2020 4:10 AM

“WikiLeaks didn’t just seek to induce change, it did induce change.”

That’s right. It was a major player in the CIA’s Arab Spring operation

“Amnesty International hails WikiLeaks and Guardian as Arab spring ‘catalysts’

The rights group singles out WikiLeaks and the newspapers that pored over its previously confidential government files, among them the Guardian, as a catalyst in a series of uprisings against repressive regimes, notably the overthrow of Tunisia’s long-serving president, Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/13/amnesty-international-wikileaks-arab-spring

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 29, 2020 11:01 AM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

You seem confused: ostensibly about how the media functions, under the active legal coercion of the CIA, GCHQ & Mossad, who bring pressure to bear upon the timing of any significant ‘news’ release, in accordance with their corporate planning for any regime change, (whether that nation be labelled ‘democracy’ or not), there is an agenda of a higher nature, that promotes only the best interests of TNC’s wishes and desires to dictate globally their goals to control everything-everything …

& screw sovereignty.

Your personal sovereignty must succumb, see?
FUKUS certainly see & profile us, knowing full well who represents a risk to their goals,
like Assange does. If you cannot see the Corporate Dictatorship of these events, as opposed to written legal principle, then there is not much point in continuing this conversation,
that centres itself around our freedom, in legal terms.
Laws actually exist … but they don’t apply to wealthy TNC’s operatives,
running “Parallel Platforms” that invade privacy & limit Freedom !

Eric McCoo
Eric McCoo
Feb 29, 2020 11:20 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

All of Assange’s major material was published by the Guardian and New York Times. If you think either of these newspapers would publish material that would represent a danger to American interests then you misunderstand how the world works.

Assange also wrote a ‘Trump is an oppressive fascist” article in the Washington Post. The CIA’s very own newspaper. That’s hilarious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/julian-assange-the-cia-director-is-waging-war-on-truth-tellers-like-wikileaks/2017/04/25/b8aa5cfc-29c7-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 29, 2020 12:34 PM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

You’ve just dodged and ignored all of the most significant matters I highlighted …

1) Existing Parallel Platforms.

2) Trans-National Corporation’s (TNC’s) best interests, goals & agendas.

3) Freedom of thought … (heavily censored by the Guardian & NYT & FT & WSJ & IHT Cape’d’ Times etc. for many decades)

As a professional Media Research & Analysis ‘agent’ in the ’80’s, preparing the CEO’s personalised breakfast digest, overnight, for what was the biggest & wealthiest corporation in the world, along with a family history that electronically aided the Tesla design of Radar for Military intelligence, (in which I received training as a boy, from my grandfather, added to which, so did my godfather, who was Chief Scientific Advisor to the M.o.D. in the ’90’s, who also worked for NASA back in the early ’70’s), I reckon I have never misunderstood how this world works,
electronically, economically & educationally, with mind control built in …

You sound like the subject of mind control, seriously . . .
Next you’ll be telling me that the timing of this Corona-Virus,
was pure coincidence ! And that it was just bad luck that the home of
the biggest competition to Intel inside Israel, today,
Yangtze Chip makers in Wuhan, also, pure coincidence ! ?
To be honest, you are now on my radar . . . having worked for the most powerful

T.N.C. C.E.O. directly . . .

Try addressing my original comment, seriously, instead of projecting & transferring,
ludicrously.

As an aside, scientifically speaking, do you think our weather has been engineered and that ‘one’ can profit financially, (as TNCs do), from this military capability ? Coz’ that was what the WTC7 ‘Hit’ was all about, pla(i)ne covering up massive financial liability, on the 11th September 2001 … surely you must know this much ? Looking forward to hearing your responseS 🙂

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:49 AM
Reply to  Eric McCoo

In other words, US State Department (aka ‘Amnesty’)hails Wikileaks help in regime renewal in Egypt, genocide and regime change in Libya, and genocide and failed regime change in Syria.

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Feb 29, 2020 12:29 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show_trial
It just occurred to me (slow-thinking brain) that one function of “Show-Trails” is to persuade the public of the accuser’s guilt. This farce however is conducted far from the public eye and is censored in the MSM to its more of a No-Show-Trial. Perhaps it is more in line with the Star Chamber?
Finally, English Justice is a bit of an oxymoron. The English Judicial system deployed Hanging, Drawing and Quartering throughout the British Isles for centuries (Scotland, from William Wallace to Culloden) and in Ireland. Now that’s show business…

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Feb 29, 2020 2:41 AM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

I prefer ‘Legalistic Lynching’, myself.

Silent Chapter
Silent Chapter
Feb 29, 2020 5:12 AM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

Looking at this ‘legal’ process one wouldn’t be not sure, should they laugh or cry.

This Judicial system is essentially is one of the pillars of Western Civilisation. Looking closely at this process, one would be forgiven to think it is another Borat episode.

Amarka
Amarka
Feb 28, 2020 11:44 PM

If you upset the “Synagogue of Satan” by hurting them with the truth expect a merciless backlash.

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 29, 2020 3:26 AM
Reply to  Amarka

This whole story has nothing to do with Jews, but the usual suspects will pop out of the woodwork to point fingers….

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Feb 29, 2020 4:09 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Wikileaks was about to release shiploads of dirt on multi national corporations just prior to Assange’s framing.
Many are controlled and/or owned by the Israeli ruling class.
Assange is on their list of ‘disposables’

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Feb 29, 2020 2:10 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

“Assange is on their list of ‘disposables’”

Along with whom?

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Feb 29, 2020 11:22 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Any Truth-teller with a large following.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:51 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

I hope you have a food taster, old mate. A Geiger counter might be a start.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Mar 6, 2020 10:42 PM

I haven’t needed a Geiger counter to detect at first hand the shit end of the semitic straw, just the perception that their Kool-Aid tasted a bit strange.

Silent Chapter
Silent Chapter
Feb 29, 2020 5:35 AM
Reply to  Antonym

The story is largely about whether US crimes can be exposed in mainstream media. Israel is the biggest beneficiary -and perhaps the only nation/regime that benefited- from US interventionism/war on terror. israel, an Apartheid, reaped enormous benefits, economically, politically and militarily. (yes, not all jews are israelis, but essentially all israelis are jews or they like to claim this)

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 1, 2020 1:50 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Manning’s diplomatic cables revealed many instances of the USA protecting the Zionist regime from International Law, and doings its very dirty work. Didn’t you read them, Antsie?

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Feb 28, 2020 11:04 PM

https://philippathomas.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/the-state-department-spokesman-and-the-prisoner-in-the-brig/
I followed the last link above to a Guardian article which in turn linked to BBC blogger, Philippa Thomas who was at the MIT seminar when PJ Crowley “dropped his bombshell” remarks. She later asked him if his comments were “on the record” …”otherwise she would not have published them”… I only mention this to show how the Guardian and BBC have declined since 2013 (although I almost forgot the latter’s brilliance in 2001 at predicting the collapse of WTC7 fully 20 minutes too early!).
Since the proverbial “man on the Clapham omnibus” can assert that the Extradition Treaty (and UK Law) coincide precisely on the exemption permitted for “political” cases, and since Wikileaks is a political entity which exists primarily to bring transparency to overly secret government agencies, then Julian’s case is the “sine qua non” of political cases (hence the blatantly rigged show trial”.
Surely a higher court of appeal would simply throw out this farcical extradition process, despite the MSM complicity to disappear everything down the Memory Hole. (Surely Kafka and Orwell were writing fiction?). Pontius Pilate, where are you now?

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Feb 29, 2020 6:15 PM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

Pity there aren’t any brave MPs (or even brave Lords) willing to ask embarrassing questions, or make embarrassing statements, under parliamentary privilege, every day.

Where is Chris Williamson when you need him? Oh yes…stitched up.

Estaugh
Estaugh
Feb 28, 2020 10:47 PM

They are throwing the Constitution out of the window; Law no longer applies. From hereon out it’s ‘hands up, surrender or die’! It’s a Runnymede moment. The Nation will fall if it carries through. “Malitia est acida, est mali animi affectus.” Malice is sour, it is the quality of a bad mind. 2 Buls. 49.

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Feb 29, 2020 2:09 AM
Reply to  Estaugh

The UK doesn’t really have a written Constitution.

“The Constitution of the United Kingdom is the system of rules that shapes the political governance of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The UK constitution is not contained in a single code, but principles have emerged over the centuries from statute, case law, political conventions and social consensus. In this sense, it can be said that the United Kingdom does not have a constitution or a basic law. ”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom

Estaugh
Estaugh
Feb 29, 2020 12:52 PM
Reply to  Vierotchka

The notion of unwritten law, (lexus non scripta), is prevalent feature in constitutional writings. It does not have to be written in order to exist. But written it is, and obeyed by the general populace, (the ‘deep state’ is another matter). The subject of constitution was in the school curriculum of the early 60s and a GCE, (general certificate of education) could be taken by high school pupils of that period. The possibility of it having been stuffed in a cardboard box and consigned to the attic to gather dust does not imply its unwrittenness or its invalidity any more than its presentation in an Ikea flatpack implies validity. https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/bouvier/bouvier_a.htm, Go to M, read Maxim

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 28, 2020 9:55 PM

The only logical & legal conclusion, imho, not knowing where this damn dumb judge resides, is that >>>

There must be something in the water she consumes …

Maybe even urine !

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 28, 2020 9:58 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

And, may I add, every damn time men need to cover up their sh8t,

They use women to deliver the message, be it on CNN or any other medium,

Talk about COWARDS ! , especially male judges . . .

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Feb 29, 2020 2:44 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Why do you imagine that Baraitser is an aberration? She looks like a perfect legal robopath in a system of class law designed to protect the ruling parasitic elites.

pasha
pasha
Feb 28, 2020 9:54 PM

Just who the hell is Vanessa Baraitser? She’s so secretive I’m beginning to suspect she’s really MI5.

JohnB
JohnB
Mar 6, 2020 10:22 PM
Reply to  pasha

Actress ? Crisis actor ? Or, as you suggest, MI5.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Feb 28, 2020 8:43 PM

Glad that you are acknowledging Craig Murrays authoritative voice on this – though much of his take is missed by your selective take.

Why haven’t you and Off-G published in full his articles?

——
Anyway a report by him on the fourth day is up and is vital reading for all.

“The Extradition Treaty is a necessary precondition of the extradition, whereas a Mars Bar Treaty is not a necessary precondition to buying the Mars Bar.
That is as plain as I can put it. I do hope that is comprehensible.”

Understood and perfectly clear as is the Ambassadors personal professional experience.

“So I know for certain that ALL the relevant British Government legal departments MUST have agreed that Article 4.1 of the UK/US Extradition Treaty was capable of being given effect under the 2003 Extradition Act. That certification has to have happened or the Treaty could never have been ratified.”
——

What is the personal professional experience of the mysterious and secretive Magistrate?

Craig Murray proves her assessment and Lewis’s to be bare faced lying of the old english aristo imperialist type who will never admit fault and will dole out punishment and death to any who dare ‘look them in the eye’.

I do believe that the deepstaters and swamp critters of the 5+1 eyed montstrosity, connected like the gross ‘human centipede’ to each other – spewing and eating shit – creates such psychopathic individuals from the kinds of children who would enjoy pulling off spiders legs and butterflies wings no doubt.

(I don’t think it entirely accidental that the potus has made it clear that his approval for extradition is specifically POLITICAL)

They are also the presstitutes of the likes of the tainted saint (like a fallen archbishop who finally got caught out!) Rusbridger- who Craig Murray twitted about offering a grudging respect for his stunning reports – while he at the same time pushes for the elevation of Tom Watson to the Lords (not a single mention of the deprivation of Bercow for his tenure as Speaker!). Not a word about his role as a state tool; not a word about Rusbridgers own role in rejecting Leveson, so that we actually now have a worse Press and one that is tied into the ‘human centipede’ along with the rest of the msm, such as the rotten broadcasters who effected the coup in December to install a junta under a puppet PM Bozo.

Rusbridger can go to hell where he has led the blinded-by-him Groaniad worshippers.

Some shit eaters are lowly comment posters who gas-lighting around these alt-news sites too.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Feb 28, 2020 8:01 PM

Once again we see that, behind the farcical Potemkin facade of ‘liberal democracy’, brutish force, obdurate casuistry, thuggish sadism and all the other stigmata of the psychopath really rule. That such a plainly fifth-rate individual as Baraitser is a ‘judge’ says it all really. Then there are the political reptiles directing it all, the Deep State thugs who enforce elite rule and the slithering, mucilaginous, arthropods of the MSM.

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle
Feb 28, 2020 6:38 PM

The Guardian is silent: a stark contrast to endless pre-trial content that always went out of its way to portray Assange as a failed human being and sex offender: recycling the same two smears over and over again (the same way they perpetuated the Corbyn antisemitisim trope).

Meanwhile the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg has just been ‘honoured’ for her contribution to journalism (honestly I’m not making this up – in the eyes of the MSM Laura epitomises all that is best about standards of political reporting or analysis).

For reasons we can only speculate about neither platform seem remotely interested in the antics of a legal patsy (Baraister) who seems to have virtually no insight into the immense harm she is inflicting to what’s left of the tattered reputation of Britains neocon-friendly legal system.

Once again Julian is the mirror held up to reflect the way those complicit with the totalitarian state are rewarded with baubles or positions of power.

Silent Chapter
Silent Chapter
Feb 28, 2020 9:35 PM
Reply to  Harry Stotle

The Intercept is silent.
Zerohedge is silent.

Both used to brag about hard-hitting journalism and freedom of the press … How is that gonna end, folks?

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Feb 28, 2020 10:08 PM
Reply to  Silent Chapter

Shame on Humanity , scientifically speaking, S.C.
Silent Chapters, indeed !

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Feb 29, 2020 2:46 AM
Reply to  Silent Chapter

The Intercept is classic controlled opposition, limited hang-out, territory.