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Wikipedia: A Disinformation Operation?

from Swiss Propaganda Research

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Wikipedia is generally thought of as an open, transparent, and mostly reliable online encyclopedia. Yet upon closer inspection, this turns out not to be the case.

In fact, the English Wikipedia with its 9 billion page views per month is governed by just 500 active administrators, whose real identity in many cases remains unknown.

Moreover, studies have shown that 80% of all Wikipedia content is written by just 1% of all Wikipedia editors, which again amounts to just a few hundred mostly unknown people.

Obviously, such a non-transparent and hierarchical structure is susceptible to corruption and manipulation, the notorious “paid editors” hired by corporations being just one example.

Indeed, already in 2007, researchers found that CIA and FBI employees were editing Wikipedia articles on controversial topics including the Iraq war and the Guantanamo military prison.

Also in 2007, researchers found that one of the most active and influential English Wikipedia administrators, called “Slim Virgin”, was in fact a former British intelligence informer.

More recently, another highly prolific Wikipedia editor going by the false name of “Philip Cross” turned out to be linked to UK intelligence as well as several mainstream media journalists.

In Germany, one of the most aggressive Wikipedia editors was exposed, after a two-year legal battle, as a political operative formerly serving in the Israeli army as a foreign volunteer.

Even in Switzerland, unidentified government employees were caught whitewashing Wikipedia entries about the Swiss secret service just prior to a public referendum about the agency.

Many of these Wikipedia personae are editing articles almost all day and every day, indicating that they are either highly dedicated individuals, or in fact, operated by a group of people.

In addition, articles edited by these personae cannot easily be revised, since the above-mentioned administrators can always revert changes or simply block disagreeing users altogether.

The primary goal of these covert campaigns appears to be pushing Western and Israeli government positions while destroying the reputation of independent journalists and politicians.

Articles most affected by this kind of manipulation include political, geopolitical and certain historical topics as well as biographies of non-conformist academics, journalists, and politicians.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales, a friend of former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and a “Young Leader” of the Davos forum, has repeatedly defended these operations.

Speaking of Davos, Wikimedia has itself amassed a fortune of more than $160 million, donated in large part not by lazy students, but by major US corporations and influential foundations.

Moreover, US social media and video platforms are increasingly referring to Wikipedia to frame or combat “controversial” topics. The revelations discussed above may perhaps help explain why.

To add at least some degree of transparency, German researchers have developed a free web browser tool called WikiWho that lets readers color code just who edited what in Wikipedia.

In many cases, the result looks as discomforting as one might expect.

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Richard
Richard
Nov 26, 2020 9:20 PM

Wikipedia is definitely a disinformation, propaganda and false-history-cementation website.
Wikipedia doesn’t say Osama bin Laden is accused of masterminding the events of 9/11, it says he DID (as an absolute fact) mastermind the events of 9/11.
Wikipedia doesn’t say Lee Harvey Oswald is accused of assassinating JFK, it says he DID (as an absolute fact) assassinate JFK.
Statements of compulsively lying U.S. government agencies like the CIA & FBI (and their pals) are essentially gospel on Wikipedia.
That should tell you all you need to know.

And it’s not just Wikipedia.
There is an extremely strong pattern of “of the people” projects & movements turning out to be “control the people” projects & movements.
As of writing this, it looks like Firefox is about to join the list.

Hindu Live
Hindu Live
Apr 16, 2020 3:29 PM

I love Wikipedia for people psyops. It always gives you the clues.

Haltonbrat
Haltonbrat
Mar 9, 2020 3:04 PM

It is obvious that Israel would be in there lying about their multiple assassinations, genocide and war crimes in the last 75+ years.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Mar 9, 2020 8:51 AM

I love Wikipedia for people psyops. It always gives you the clues.

  • Chelsea Manning, alleged whistleblower
  • Adrian Lamo, alleged aider of Chelsea
  • Marie Colvin, alleged journalist
  • Dr David Kelly (bioweapons), allegedly suicided (though some think killed), however, could easily have been sheepdipped (given a new identity and sent elsewhere)
  • Mordechai Vanunu, alleged leaker of Israeli nuclear weapons secrets
  • Assassinated Iranian alleged nuclear physicists
  • Bill Kaysing, seeming first exposer of alleged moon hoax (but really just a windup plant for those who disbelieve everything from authorities to encourage them in their disbelief of the genuine moon landings so they will be derided for their attempts at exposing real conspiracies such as 9/11 – a kind of creation of the Boy-Who-Cried-Wolf
  • psyop)

Alan Tench
Alan Tench
Mar 8, 2020 1:13 PM

Hi admin, my comment doesn’t appear, but if I try to post it again I get the message that it’s a duplicate. I’ve tried Edge and IE11 but neither work. Any ideas? Thanks.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Mar 8, 2020 2:55 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

Hi Alan, I believe I have rescued your comment form our spam folder. Do reply here if you still can’t see the comment you’re missing. Thanks.

Alan Tench
Alan Tench
Mar 8, 2020 3:13 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I see it now. Thanks.

Alan Tench
Alan Tench
Mar 7, 2020 8:19 PM

I’ve been a Wikipedia editor for many years, editing under numerous guises. I first fell out of favour with ‘the project’ when I came up against and editor who was hell-bent on removing all references to “British Isles” from the encyclopedia. He was eventually stopped in his tracks, but not before an enormous amount of collateral damage. I now edit mostly as what they describe as ‘an IP editor’. This has demonstrated to me one of the worst aspects of Wikipedia: a complete disregard for one of the founding principles, that “anyone can edit Wikipedia”, or as Jimmy Wales says, “you can edit this page right now!” No you can’t. At least, not if it’s a page that’s in any way important. Most major articles are now permanently protected from IP editors, usually by bum administrators with an agenda of making the project an account-only entity. They protect an article on the strength of ‘persistent vandalism’, but rather than limiting protection to a week, a month, or even a year, they permanently protect it. It’s sickening, and it allows ‘the cabal’ to carry on regardless with their propaganda, intolerance and biases. Have a look at the articles on Climate Change, Holocaust Denial, the IRA, or anything to do with Israel or the Arab-Israeli conflict. In these, and many other, areas the NPOV principle has been quietly abandoned in favour of the agenda of ‘the cabal’. The project has become a massive bureaucracy, with inordinate time spent on what they call ‘sockpuppet investigations’ (it’s easy to be a successful sockpuppet). Most admins don’t contribute to the project. Rather, they are busy-bodies who just like to boss other people around. Apparently, one of the worst examples of Wiki malpractice is the Global Warmimg article (permanently protected, of course). I understand that eminent experts in the field have been dismissed and banned from editing simply because they fall foul of the cabal’s agenda.

What to do about Wikipedia? I don’t know. Its tentacles have slithered into just about everything online. There seems no stopping it. I still edit it. Why? Because it’s addictive. And that’s another problem with it.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 8, 2020 10:18 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

Which ’eminent experts in the field’ have been banned from editing the ‘Global Warming’ section? Nigel Lawson? Bjorn Lomborg? Hapless Happer?

Alan Tench
Alan Tench
Mar 8, 2020 11:01 PM
Alan Tench
Alan Tench
Mar 9, 2020 8:50 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

This link still has the list:

https://web.archive.org/web/20191115154603/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

Anyone know if this ‘web archive’ site holds stuff indefinitely, thereby rendering such wiki deletions ineffective?

Richard
Richard
Nov 26, 2020 9:27 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

Yes, it does.
But always add the page to archive.is as well, to improve the odds of it remaining in existence.

George Mc
George Mc
Mar 9, 2020 6:37 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

I think the only thing you can do – and encourage others to do – is always to check the references and try a few other sites as well i.e. cross reference. I sometimes go to Powerbase and Wikispooks – although every site I visit usually throws up some bias or other and, if you note those, you ought to be able to piece together a more credible picture than otherwise.

different frank
different frank
Mar 7, 2020 3:19 PM

I once tried to alter the Graun’s Wikipedia entry.
I changed Left wing to neoliberal.
I was banned.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 7, 2020 3:12 PM

Let’s just not forget that there are plenty of non-controversial topics out there, and if you want some details about when Copernicus was born and the political circumstances of his time, Wikipedia will do nicely for a quick look.
I don’t think anybody in their right mind would turn to Wp for information on The Guardian or the BBC…

Anthony North
Anthony North
Mar 7, 2020 3:04 PM

Nothing surprising in this. I’d be surprised if it wasn’t manipulated. I go by a simple philosophy: there’s only one truth – there isn’t one. But you’ve not mentioned the main area of manipulation – culture itself. As a case in point, one of my interests concerns the unexplained, where I do not debunk, but attempt rational explanation. Culture dictates scepticism on such subjects throughout Wiki. How about you lot? Atlantis, Loch Ness Monster, the Poltergeist.
keyudos

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 8, 2020 10:19 PM
Reply to  Anthony North

How many Anthony Norths are there?

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Mar 9, 2020 7:21 AM

“How many Anthony Norths are there?”

Depends what size you want.

Anthony North
Anthony North
Mar 9, 2020 9:01 AM

What? Globally? Several hundred I’d have thought. But I’m THE Anthony North. What’s your point?

austrian peter
austrian peter
Mar 9, 2020 2:30 PM
Reply to  Anthony North

Like you Anthony, I seek the essence of truth wherever I might find it. For this I have rules:
In assessing the truth of reports I use a couple of mantras:
• Always follow the money
• There is never such a thing as a coincidence.
• Never underestimate the evil of the powers that be
• Occam’s Razor

In March 2013 the Cyprus bank crisis turned out to be a test run for the ‘Bail-in’ process to protect banks during a future bank run. It had been modelled earlier. My book starts with the Cyprus event.
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/03/07/the-financial-jigsaw-issue-no-94/

This time we have Event 201 in October 2019 and a release of the exact same postulated virus in November 2019 – coincidence? I think not.
https://www.hopkins-cepar.org/on-alert/two-different-drills-with-two-different-goals

We know that the central banks know that the global economy was due to crash – all they needed was cover – follow the money. Even now, the WHO is resisting calling a ‘pandemic’ – I wonder why? Is it because there are a great deal of the World Bank’s ‘pandemic’ bonds due July resting on it? – Follow the money:
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/feb/28/world-banks-500m-coronavirus-push-too-late-for-poor-countries-experts-say

Need I say more?

mcdonagh4
mcdonagh4
Mar 7, 2020 1:58 PM

Unfortunately the same can be said for all for profit information services these days with the Guardian being one of the worst as far as the fake news business goes.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Mar 7, 2020 1:57 PM

William Connolley, a member of the British Green Party and climate modeller, aggressively edited Wikipedia pages on global warming (more than five thousand) to push the Climate Change catastrophe narrative. Connolley claims to have a doctoral degree, although there is no evidence for this.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Mar 7, 2020 3:29 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

It would have been nice if the person who down voted this comment had left a reply, pointing out what they disagreed with.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Mar 7, 2020 6:07 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Not sure what Billy’s politics are: you’d best ask Pamela & if the answer is
‘Not on the nine o’clock news’ >>> I blame Greta . . .

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 7, 2020 11:10 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Groupthink breaking down?

Portonchok
Portonchok
Mar 8, 2020 9:47 AM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

My guess is that it might be because you wrote: “ Connolley claims to have a doctoral degree, although there is no evidence for this“.

I don’t know of this person, but he’s apparently got a DPhil from St Edmund Hall at the University of Oxford.

Furthermore, to be Senior Scientific Officer in the British Antarctic Survey you’d need to be a PhD, they don’t just send anyone out there nor freely hand out senior titles.

Are you saying this is untrue? If so, on what basis?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 7, 2020 11:10 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

The anthropogenic climate destabilisation catastrophe scenario deserves to be ventilated. The MSM and the various denialist disinformation sites certainly won’t-in fact they deny that the destabilisation is even happening, as climate and weather disasters grow rapidly. In fact the ‘catastrophe’ scenarios of various intensity from calamitous to Near Term Human Extinction are utterly unarguable, save with sophistry, casuistry and outright disinformation.

Binra
Binra
Mar 7, 2020 1:48 PM

Of course.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Mar 7, 2020 11:33 AM

I invite other AAPA (awake and paying attention) people to join me in a comprehensive boycott of Wikideceivia. I make a point of NEVER consulting it, on any topic at all, on the principle that anything pulled from a toxic sewer is near-certain to be contaminated, however apparently non-controversial it may seem to be. And how would we ever be able to tell which stuff is sound and which is shite? It’s not as if scientists and academics have simply never been caught in intellectually-corrupt practices in recent times, is it?

On the same principle, I invariably refuse to accept Wikideceivia as an information-source offered by others. I hold to a variant of the famous motto (questionable grammar and all) ascribed to the Roman senator Cato the Elder:

Wikideceivia delenda est! (Wikideceivia must be destroyed!)

Have no truck with it on any excuse. When you swear a total, permanent shunning/boycott, you soon find, with little searching, that there are other sources of information. (Which may also be tainted, of course, but that’s just par for the course in the information-tsunami age. Caveat emptor applies at ALL times.)

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Mar 7, 2020 11:45 AM

PS: For a small avalanche of chapter-and-verse evidence of just how corrupt JWales is – and therefore how toxic the Wikideceivia sewer is – see Amarka’s comment below.

Wikideceivia delenda est!

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Mar 7, 2020 7:28 PM

You dson’t have to come up with cute but derogatory names for it. Just use a bit of common sense. I use Wikipedia for a lot of day to day information, most of it technical, some of it historical. All this can be described as ‘non-controversial’. I obviously tread very carefully should I look up contemporary topics – contested science, current affairs and politics — because they’re not only controversial but their veracity is usually a matter of opinion, which in this day and age is often ‘who can shout the loudest’.

You don’t condemn all books because a lot of what’s published is crap so why dump on this publishing medium?

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Mar 7, 2020 8:55 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Good luck with your dips into the cesspit, Martin. Scrub off well after each contamination! Check Amarka’s post below, and see whether you still think that JWales’s racket should get ANY patronage at all. Not by me. Not a chance. Patronise a CIA/zionist deception racket – on any topic at all? You can not be serious!

Wikideceivia, wikideceivia, wikideceivia delenda est!

Thinks: ‘Or would it be even more ‘cutesy’ to spell it Wikideceive-ya; just to make it dead clear even to the intellectually-challenged?’ :0)

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Mar 8, 2020 8:39 PM

…but I have just looked up the article on solar panels to check on the equivalent circuit or these devices. Its hardly a sewer of Zionist mis-information.

FWIW — Even the CIA even publishes useful summaries of things like the economic output of countries, information that’s useful for researchers that’s non-controverisal. You just need to know where the edge is likely to be and avoid that territory.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Mar 8, 2020 9:29 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

PS: Sorry, my error. My response just above should have been placed here.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Mar 8, 2020 9:26 PM

I stand by my decision: NEVER look at Wikideceivia. It’s a cesspit of deceit. Nothing it offers can ever be trusted. Good luck with sifting the – alleged – echt gold from the toxic turds. And it’s not as if all knowledge is shut away from us if we can’t use the JWales cesspit. Once known to be a liar, always suspect thereafter. There are plenty of other, less dishonoured sources.

Wikideceivia delenda est!

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle
Mar 7, 2020 11:05 AM

‘To add at least some degree of transparency, German researchers have developed a free web browser tool called WikiWho that lets readers color code just who edited what in Wikipedia.’ – is there a version available for the Guardian, because it may well reveal the extent to which their geopolitical output is a direct transcript of intelligence community briefings?

Essential article by the way – proof, if proof were needed, that info’ wars are currently running at full tilt. In fact we have now reached a stage where any sizeable information entity (controlled by corporations) must be assumed to be tainted until proven otherwise.

The internet still tolerates plurality of opinion but what it won’t accept are informations streams that reach a wide audience without being filtered through various forms of censorship or psych-op.

I linked to this doc on the recent Skripal thread because it explains how any event linked to national security has no chance of being treated in a balanced or non-partisan way by the MSM (the film uses the invasion of Iraq as an exemplar).
For example, it depicts Colin Powell lying to the UN about WMDs while at home the chair of the Federal Communications Commission (who just happened to be Powell’s son, Michael) ignored accusations that America’s media watch-dog was failing in its duty to meaningfully interrogate the rationale for invasion put out by Bush and his Dad (from 59 minutes)

This is not just corruption but flagrent corruption – in other words the Michael Powells of this world can’t even be arsed to pretend that the system in place is anything other than a vehicle for a brutal corpocracy to do pretty much anything that it pleases. This article warns us that Wiki may well be a member of the same club.

RealPeter
RealPeter
Mar 7, 2020 11:13 AM
Reply to  Harry Stotle

The video is blocked here in France by someone called ‘syndicadoFilms’ for ‘copyright reasons’.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Mar 7, 2020 10:41 AM

Beautiful.

Can’t wait for the Russian ‘wiki’ to go live and fuck MrWales right off.

SPR are tops at this stuff hope they are doing a follow up to the MSM propaganda multiplier for ALT-MEDIA sites.

Sun
Sun
Mar 7, 2020 10:11 AM

For Israel’s prime minister to become a de-facto President of the United States of america, intense behind-the-scene lobbying is required. Extreme public opinion massage certainly seals the deal!

The Zionists are now running Foreign Affairs departments in virtually all Western countries (anybody know any exception?). Could this happen without a tsunami of deception and lying?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 8, 2020 10:22 PM
Reply to  Sun

In the USA the Zionists control politics, the MSM, the Departments of State, Treasury and Justice and the Federal Reserve. This commonplace observation was considered unacceptable, yesterday. Why?

Peter Charles
Peter Charles
Mar 7, 2020 9:17 AM

Like everything on the internet a case of caveat emptor applies, whether it be a MSM article, a blog, a shop, Google, Wikipedia or even Off Guardian. 😉

If I am interested in a subject I always cross check as far as I can and if I am very interested I try to get all the way back to the original source. Of course, too many of us simply do not have the time let alone inclination.

But the article is correct, Wikipedia is grossly contaminated. It is a useful reference for general biographies (caveat emptor again, whether it is Wiki or a book), hard science and technology (except for some areas like climate ‘science’) but for anything that is relevant or in any way controversial it is always highly suspect.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Mar 7, 2020 4:01 PM
Reply to  Peter Charles

Especially OG.
Has CI5 written all over it.
😉 😉

Thom
Thom
Mar 8, 2020 9:38 AM
Reply to  Peter Charles

You’re absolutely right. Wikipedia has its uses and I have found it a good starting point on many topics – as long as you realise their pro-American ‘deep state’ agenda. Ditto for Quora.

Eva
Eva
Mar 7, 2020 8:55 AM

Wikipedia is a crock of misinformation – it always has been. Adopt the large pinch of salt stance when reading and never rely on it for accuracy. Example:- Wiki page for a certain railway station (closed in the Beeching corruption era) has a photo claiming to be the station ….. it is a house next to the local village shop (also closed). A simple, non-life-threatening error …. but it is there for all to see. Wiki is an aid, that is all and much like the MSM, it is a propaganda tool. Nobody fact checks the fact checkers and if we choose to, we will allow the rewriting of history. Just look to google maps to find Palestine.
As for RationalWiki – what a manipulative pile of .

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 7, 2020 3:15 PM
Reply to  Eva

what a manipulative pile

“sceptic” forums in general, tend to be instinctive defenders of the Official Story. It would be interesting to understand the psychological processes in operation, wherein nonsensical “science” is used to support the most unscientific conclusions imaginable; the 9/11 event being, as always, a paradigmatic example.

Presumably, many of their inhabitants are on somebody’s payroll, with the usual consequences for understanding evidence and arguments that might get you removed from that payroll.

Gall
Gall
Mar 7, 2020 6:10 AM

It’s almost synchronistic that you’d post this article after milosevic replied to a comment of mine seriously citing it as a valid “source” to “disprove” the overwhelming proof that 9/11 was a Nuclear Event . Maybe he works there as an editor in his spare time.

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 7, 2020 2:20 PM
Reply to  Gall

— here’s that reference again, you disinfo shill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_detector#Ionization

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Mar 7, 2020 6:52 PM
Reply to  milosevic

Why don’t you add some of your Hollywood favourites to ingratiate yourself ?

Of course, if you were serious you would want to discuss the contents of WTC7, more specifically … (apart from all the security agencies and inland revenue services), the SEC investigations into Enron, Monsanto, GEC, harmonised with BP/USD.o.D interests & HAARP and their engineering of the weather, bankrupting many US farmers in the process of experimenting and then moving in with GMO crops onto land plagued by an engineered successive years of drought, with drought resistant seed, whilst speculating with the first ever Weather Derivative Fund investments, on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange … all questions & subjects milosevic prefers to avoid, at any cost, eh milo. ? !

Just project & transfer onto others, shouting disinformation shill, quoting wikipedia & Hollywood, youtube & google, all controlled arenas of opposition, like Chomsky & MIT… c’mon milosevic, you can do better than this continual posting of the same ole’ clips. How about discussing the science of engineering the weather ? Loads of links exist for you, that are not from Hollywood or Wikipedia, just ask Eastlund, who invented HAARP …
And whatever you do, don’t ask Greta, see ? Way better me, coz’ there are things I know AND HAVE SEEN with my own eyes & heard with my own ears, that neither you nor Greta seem very keen to discuss, in reality ! No smoke without fire, eh, milo. ? 🙂 😉

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 1:18 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

How about discussing the science of engineering the weather?

How about you go f*** yourself, you CIA disinfo troll?

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Mar 8, 2020 9:48 AM
Reply to  milosevic

‘Classy’ response, milosevic, lower class, naturally.
At least if I’m gonna’ do that, I’ll supply a link that refutes the
disinformation anybody like you or WHBonney may furnish.

So, to be perfectly clear: milosevic maintains that the weather cannot be and was never engineered, with cloud seeding and the micro-radio-wave heating of the ionosphere, (warping its’ form), purely figments of my imagination and of course, Lockheed Martin’s wild imagination before the Beijing Olympics in 2008 ! ?

Given that the Chinese Government & Scientists openly ADMIT working with Lockheed Martin & FIVE HUNDRED installations on the North Face of the Himalayas and RT & others reported on this, many years ago… Milosevic appears to be on the wrong side of proven science & history confirmed, including the history of Bernard Eastlund’s warnings made public and indeed the official 1997 US D.o.D. policy & military strategy to control the food supply and water, globally.

Has it ever occurred to milosevic, that we can’t all be disinformation. shills ?
I’ve read comments from Brian Steere, (Binra) elsewhere, in medical columns where he uses his real name >>> something he has never hidden … unlike,

Milosevic, on the other hand, who always without fail prefers pseudonyms,
rather like ‘reinertorheit’s abusive Ad-hom. & seems to have an agenda of denial of proven science, especially regarding Climate ! >>> So, Milo insists that HAARP is harmless and could not possibly be in anyway responsible for any elements of Climate Change … How wrong can you be milo ?
Keep it up, you pseudo-dissident,
evidence of your controlled opposition is mounting by the day !

Seeing as you seem to be a wikipedia-fan, below is the link to my godfather (who grandfather educated) on wikipedia … it doesn’t mention Uncle D.E.N.s work for NASA in the 70’s, so consider yourself better informed than any wikipedia fan, today … One of us is lying & it ain’t me, see ? Clearly, milosevic has an agenda of ‘Total Denial of any Geo-Engineering’ , even refuting what insiders must concede.
Why is this, let me see ? >>> likely, controlled opposition & shilling DISINFO. !!
Or plain ignorant of the science ? In your case milo. I find the latter almost impossible to believe, especially after my working for BP’s CEO directly, when we bought HAARP & ARCO oil & gas. You know very well who Bernard Eastlund is and likely you even understand what he was trying to warn against … The Chief Scientific Advisor to the M.o.D most certainly understood, my godfather, Uncle D.E.N. >>> open the link, if you dare: it’s clean 🙂 and if yer’ polite in your response, I’ll even tell you why he’s called D.E.N. & not David …

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Davies_(electrical_engineer)

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 10:53 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

to be perfectly clear: milosevic maintains that the weather cannot be and was never engineered

Milo insists that HAARP is harmless and could not possibly be in anyway responsible for any elements of Climate Change

Clearly, milosevic has an agenda of ‘Total Denial of any Geo-Engineering’

so, you’re not only a disinfo shill, but also a liar, because I’ve never mentioned the subject.

but keep pursuing your CIA controllers’ agenda: disrupt, divert, derail. and then when people notice, tell some lies, and hope that fixes the problem.

good doggie, here’s your bone.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Mar 9, 2020 1:09 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

“…Brian Steere, (Binra)…”

Figures.

Gall
Gall
Mar 8, 2020 5:32 AM
Reply to  milosevic

Ahh the Case of the Pot of accusing the Kettle. Tell me milosevic did your brain suffer much before it died?

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 5:50 AM
Reply to  Gall

— still no comment about the radioactive elements commonly present inside smoke detectors, then.

A nearly universal feature of disinfo shills is that they can’t respond to arguments which would tend to refute their claims. That would require a revision to the script, and the agency budget apparently doesn’t allow for that — it’s the quantity of disinfo that counts, not the quality. Hence, idiotic claims that either nobody died at the WTC (Petra/Flaxgirl), or that the demolition was done with nuclear explosives.

Keep up the good work. Your CIA masters are counting on you.

Gall
Gall
Mar 8, 2020 9:34 AM
Reply to  milosevic

I already responded. Now go fuck yourself.

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 10:56 AM
Reply to  Gall

no, you didn’t. but please, tell us some more lies, like your disinfo colleague “Tim Jenkins”.

Gall
Gall
Mar 8, 2020 9:43 AM
Reply to  Gall

Woo Hoo😀👍 milosevic’s sock puppet team DVed me.

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 11:01 AM
Reply to  Gall

— yes, that’s right, more lies like that one, please. whatever you think “DV” means — I have no idea.

Antonym
Antonym
Mar 7, 2020 6:02 AM

Some might have heard about the riots that happened in New Delhi on Feb. 25 & 26th during the PM Modi – president Trump meet just a few km away. A whole Fake news campaign was organized around that trying to blame….. Modi’s own BJP for that.
Here the exposure of Wikipedia editor DBigXray – an India guy who hates Modi.
because of his level at Wikipedia, his edits are not challenged. After making such edits, he protects the pages so others cannot rectify the lies he has spread.

Antonym
Antonym
Mar 8, 2020 2:08 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Hinduphobia rears its head….

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 8, 2020 10:26 PM
Reply to  Antonym

The Great Axis of Islamophobia-the USA, Israel and Modi’s little fascist Hindutva failing state. Keep the hate flowing Antsie-it suits you.

Antonym
Antonym
Mar 9, 2020 1:41 AM

The only axis I see is USA, UK, KSA: keeping the dollar afloat on Arab oil and gas.

Deepak panwar
Deepak panwar
Apr 16, 2020 3:28 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Right

Off-Anything
Off-Anything
Mar 7, 2020 5:44 AM

This is a great article. I would like to add:
If Americans Knew: https://youtu.be/TAzBsVzYH1o
Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada
https://youtu.be/-bYAQ-ZZtEU

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 7, 2020 2:21 PM
Reply to  Off-Anything

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Mar 9, 2020 7:43 AM
Reply to  milosevic

I’d forgotten about the site If Americans Knew, tho I usually go on Mondoweiss or Electronic Intifada…
Appreciate this quite chilling video showing where the endgame of these bastards is at:
The complete disappearance of the Palestinians, the complete silencing of any criticism of Israel’s barbarity and war crimes, and mass groupthink when it comes to Israel and the Middle East.
Just straight out fascism.
I’m only surprised most Western countries havn’t already introduced laws making it a hate crime to criticise Israel.
That day is coming M. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see where all this is heading.
I know about the situation in France and in large swathes of the United States, like Texas for example.

Ken
Ken
Mar 7, 2020 4:51 AM

You can find out whatever it is you’re supposed by the establishment to know about any given topic by looking at Wikipedia. ‘Nuff said!

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 7, 2020 4:44 AM

Wikipedia isnt the first encyclopaedia to publish disinformation.
We can be sure that most of the paper encyclopaedias have been owned and edited by very conservative individuals and organisations. An ‘old boys’ network in many cases.
In a world of self interest and greed it’s hard to know who can be trusted.

Gall
Gall
Mar 7, 2020 6:15 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

True. You should read what the vaunted Encyclopedia Britannica has to say about 9/11. They accept the fantasmagorical ‘explanation of what happened by the commission without question.

Binra
Binra
Mar 7, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

On a common garden level I note that living history is an incendiary thing to seek to write – try it with your family. His story, her story – whats with the narrative struggle for identity – as if the one who judges last above all other judgement?

Greed is for those who can never have enough, most know it as restlessness – or driven compulsive thought and habit.

Seeking control of the narrative is also learning to operate under narrative controls. When was the golden age of free speech?

The self-inflated belief in a fantasy leads to outrage when it pops.

I am not writing to condone malice – but to open the dialogue to include the otherwise invisible structuring of thought and consciousness.

Truth – as I use the word is always also an inner resonance of alignment and purpose and not an Object to be fought over for possession or a weapon by which to get it back from those who ‘stole’ or defiled your patent on it.

That the mind operates filters and rules that block communication is simply observable. That it becomes identified in subjection to its own rules is not so obvious – when the mind is used as a defence instead of an instrument within a greater Communication.

We hate coercion and limitation as loss of freedom, but how much of our entanglement is the result of unconsciously invested choices that run in the background as a deep state of never knowing what we are doing – so as to claim plausible deniability? Or as shadow power that always ensures self-protective diversion from unwanted or feared outcomes – but which then go forth, multiply, and come back with interest?

The focus on lies as a call and justification for outrage, hate and moral superiority is not the call for and embodiment of true witness. Howbeit we are deceived even by the War on Lies.

I find many points or recognition and resonance in the commenting and articles on OG – which I value as humankindness – and not a matter of ideological agreement. Because I don’t support War on Lies, I will be accused of siding with Liars. When it comes to it – the polar opposites work the centre to become uncentered – because we allow it so.

Without trust – is nothing coherent. We are always already giving faith and trust to something – but experiencing its result as if reality. To consciously extend trust we have to uncover it within ourselves – and this is a matter of self-honesty. Can we afford honesty if it then uncovers areas of denied experience that threaten to bring down the self-presentations we took to be solid ground?

Truth and honesty are two facets of one. We live our human life within a network of entangled contextual bias – or stories defended over truth.
I sense that in painting ourselves into a corner, we invoke ever more desperate and loveless ‘escapes’ that in fat pile up treasures in hell – for papering over the cracks is the denial of light to that which calls for correction – not denial – no matter how complex and ingenious the instruments of self-deceit.

The illusion of freedom while maintaining the breakdown of communication is the fantasy to which we so readily abnegate our true will.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 7, 2020 11:17 PM
Reply to  Binra

Point made Binra, but verbosity IS the enemy of clarity.

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 1:27 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

verbosity IS the enemy of clarity.

— on the other hand, verbosity is the friend of disruption, diversion, and derailment.

although the output of the “Binra” operation has improved, recently; it’s lost the obviously machine-generated quality that it used to have. The algorithms must have been improved, or the amount of human supervision increased.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 8, 2020 3:48 AM
Reply to  milosevic

Binra an IA ?
Nah.
He/she is just one of those folks who like to showcase their erudition.
The Sleepwalkers will not be woken by a flood of syllable heavy jargon.

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 4:36 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

Is that erudition, or just an endless fountain of meaningless verbiage?

compare:

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 8, 2020 5:37 AM
Reply to  milosevic

Gobbledegook for the self important Milo.
It’s not as dangerous as the spin the psychos spew out.

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 6:57 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

— it’s the sheer QUANTITY of gobbledygook that suggests that it must be largely machine-generated. (the Po-Mo generator, above, never gets tired, or runs out of jargon.)

I couldn’t manage to produce that volume of meaningless nonsense, continuously, day after day, month after month, no matter how delusionally self-important I felt.

Could you? Could anyone?

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 8, 2020 7:02 AM
Reply to  milosevic

OCDers perhaps?

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 7:19 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

Winston had finished his bread and cheese. He turned a little sideways in his chair to drink his mug of coffee. At the table on his left the man with the strident voice was still talking remorselessly away. A young woman who was perhaps his secretary, and who was sitting with her back to Winston, was listening to him and seemed to be eagerly agreeing with everything that he said. From time to time Winston caught some such remark as ‘I think you’re so right, I do so agree with you’, uttered in a youthful and rather silly feminine voice. But the other voice never stopped for an instant, even when the girl was speaking. Winston knew the man by sight, though he knew no more about him than that he held some important post in the Fiction Department. He was a man of about thirty, with a muscular throat and a large, mobile mouth. His head was thrown back a little, and because of the angle at which he was sitting, his spectacles caught the light and presented to Winston two blank discs instead of eyes. What was slightly horrible, was that from the stream of sound that poured out of his mouth it was almost impossible to distinguish a single word. Just once Winston caught a phrase — ‘complete and final elimination of Goldsteinism’ — jerked out very rapidly and, as it seemed, all in one piece, like a line of type cast solid. For the rest it was just a noise, a quack-quack-quacking. And yet, though you could not actually hear what the man was saying, you could not be in any doubt about its general nature. He might be denouncing Goldstein and demanding sterner measures against thought-criminals and saboteurs, he might be fulminating against the atrocities of the Eurasian army, he might be praising Big Brother or the heroes on the Malabar front — it made no difference. Whatever it was, you could be certain that every word of it was pure orthodoxy, pure Ingsoc. As he watched the eyeless face with the jaw moving rapidly up and down, Winston had a curious feeling that this was not a real human being but some kind of dummy. It was not the man’s brain that was speaking, it was his larynx. The stuff that was coming out of him consisted of words, but it was not speech in the true sense: it was a noise uttered in unconsciousness, like the quacking of a duck.

Syme had fallen silent for a moment, and with the handle of his spoon was tracing patterns in the puddle of stew. The voice from the other table quacked rapidly on, easily audible in spite of the surrounding din.

‘There is a word in Newspeak,’ said Syme, ‘I don’t know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like a duck. It is one of those interesting words that have two contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it is abuse, applied to someone you agree with, it is praise.’

George Orwell — 1984

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 8, 2020 8:22 AM
Reply to  milosevic
binra
binra
Mar 11, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

I do not speak to the sleeping – but to the waking.
You may engage in the futility of trying to change the will of others as if to vindicate your own – and MUST do so until you recognise it is not only futile but at cost of your own awareness of being.

That which is already moving – is seeking and finding according to the stirring and prompting of a rising awareness.

The ego is the attempt to take credit for, and exercise control over life as a pre and post judgmental reaction and response.

The ego steals your life by substitution with surrogate reality.
But only with the power you give it in the wish to be judge, definer and determiner of your own reality.

I had read and experienced and opened a lot, before I came to realise it was all a sandcastle. You wake as you are willing to accept only truth as true.
And wake to one truth in all – including your ‘sleepwalkers’.

If you want to fit truth into your sandcastle – you will have to do a ‘wikipedia’ job on it. Then you can sell and impactivise ‘your’ truth-weapon to wake your targets.

To attack syllables and jargon with absolutely NO engagement in the points raised is indicative of a block. I looked back at what you see as syllabled jargon and recognise the heart given witness. However, I also see that as freedom and not coercive.
Where is your willingness for love? Have you set terms and conditions of regulatory requirements that posts must reinforce your woke knowledge in order to make ‘sense’?

I align with Confucius who was asked “what would he do if in the reins of power?”
He responded: I would redeem the dictionary.

The word we give, and accept is the foundational currency from which all else flows or follows.

If you want coherency of being and relation – look to your own word.
For it shall be always by your word that your experience is given you.
Even if you go kicking and screaming.
Responsibility for consciousness is the flipping of the mind from object-response to alignment in the field and flow of resonant relational patterns for the support of life – instead of the attempt to limit and control it.
Especially under the belief that everyone and everything else limits you and makes you what you are. Plausible deniability and covert ops. Nothing new under the Sun.

Compassion is the embrace of a self-recognition extended and perhaps shared. (All true gifts arrive in their right timing). I understand the short attention span and the impatience relative to your own ‘drive’. But I do not support you in making this the currency of your being. Nor do I attack your right to your own choices and experience.

But I engage with your intent to put your word on my life.
Like this.

Binra
Binra
Mar 8, 2020 11:42 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

If you had any specific point I would respond. Every word or phrase comes to me from the simple desire to give expression to an ‘insider’ view – in concert with outer perceptions or interpretations. Not insider to cabals or cartels – but inside the human psyche. Perhaps you are not aware of the structure through which your thought and response are framed? The manipulations in play COULD be educating you as to the way the mind is structured – but you still think you are the exception?
(This is an other way of describing the belief ‘slavery is freedom’ but at a deeper root than Orwell’s mythology)

I am interested to uncovering fresh and embracing perspective rather than persisting the same old and tired identity conflict. This means addressing what runs beneath our reality presumptions, beliefs and mutually reinforcing definitions.
Yet the mind of identity conflict is founded on maintaining a lid over what runs beneath – excepting it can be subverted as further fuel and armouring for the ‘lid’ or mask. Conflict is projected, outsourced or false flagged to scapegoats. This is not to say they may not be engaged likewise – but that the use of the scapegoat is to dump toxic debts on sacrificial victims as if to escape them from a self-specialness.

As an artist I feel moved to uncover or sketch felt meanings, I am not merely reactive to surface appearances and narrative investments. But nor am I intent on breaking in, hacking or impacting another living being. You have to want to know, in order to release the cover story of the mind to a deeper self-honesty. In this – we are in the same essential pattern of challenge as those we may be quick to blame – so as to temporarily find relief of the tightness of our own mask by the claiming the rightness of moral superiority of ‘judgement over others’.

To be able to describe this I have to have experienced the territory of error along with fearful and painful consequence. The world is set on a crash course with its own derailment from Reality. But when you elect to take it is up to you. Until then it is business as usual.

Truth is always unspeakable – but that doesn’t mean it cannot be recognised and shared in. Choosing NOT to is the basis of private or hidden and conflicting agenda.

Until we can read between the lines we have no relational context in which to make sense of anything – and are merely reinforcing what we think to already ‘know’, by a translation into our own terms. The mind cannot get this from within its own spin. Nor am I addressing you there.

Peace is discarded because it is not sought within the attempt to resolve conflict externally. The heart’ understanding is an honesty of being – not an emotionally reactive defence.

False witness is essentially the suppression and subversion of communication as an invested identification or reaction in seeking ‘control’. Its part of how the mind limits itself so as not to know or feel its own feedback – and instead filters a bubble of self-reinforcement set against conflicts projected away from a sense self under threat of chaos and loss.

You threw a pebble in my pool and I lived the ripples – as the movement of my own being. Kinda like meeting another pond skater. It’s all ‘vibrations’ – but where is your tuning dial?

Dissonance COULD be something to look at rather than ‘get rid of’. The urger to escape or avoid dissonance can be to gloss over real feedback to a dependency on confirmation bias. How WOULD a greater perspective find you except by knocking on your door?

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 9, 2020 3:12 AM
Reply to  Binra

Our thoughts are like chattering monkeys.
Douglas Harding’s simple explanation:
http://www.headless.org/english-welcome.htm

Binra
Binra
Mar 9, 2020 5:58 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

Then stop identifying with them as ‘our’ or ‘me- thoughts’.
If I were posting ‘my thinking’ it would be all about me.
The mad monkey house is ‘all about me’ and reads everything as the output of the competition of me-narratives.
The point of releasing chatterbox is not become a vacuous assertion of non dual ‘me’, but to become an instrument of wholeness of being. Thoughts have no more power than you give them. If you give them the power to judge or determine reality you give them the power to conflict or oppose reality – and – in case you forgot – that includes You.
My comment on relational space is that without willingness to listen, there is no communication. Only a seeming communication of separate ‘me-thinking’ in search of me-defence reinforcement.
“On having no head” is direct to the realisation that where you THINK your head to be is the All Embracing Awareness in which Everything Is – including the mapping of the body to its sensing. Harding related to his head as the core arbiter of his sense of experience – at the time of its release to realisation because the head is the locus of the mapping-modeling and masking mind. But he could have expressed it as a complete release of the body – as limitation. The monkey-mind is a means to limit the Infinite – not in fact but as self-referencing conflict.
It may arise one day that you realise the act of making sense of insight had only built a ‘me’ of the attempt to possess and control it’ – that made no sense – and indeed nonsense of the gifts of the Spirit.
So then the recognition is to remember NOT to translate everything into your own terms or framework of meanings and thereby do a ‘wikipedia’ on yourself.
To be as a child in a new land or a new language is to abide in the felt meanings of the heart and let them call forth or find their OWN pathways of expression. This is always a synchrony of inner and outer reality and not a thought construct – and rises as a whole and as a spontaneity.
Every artist knows the flow of being as a movement unto itself that – if you get out of your own way – will express though you. Through your your thought word and deed – such as to be a communication of presence.
The belief in ego as something to get rid of means that we meet it everywhere and in everyone. There’s no need to get rid of a mistaken sense of self-limitation and conflict.
If you are in your head – you see ‘heads’ everywhere.
That is you cast out your own intentions and motivational frameworks onto others and react as if it is true.
When this becomes the normal exchange of thoughts that have no presence – then the social currency of meanings operates to protect is own lack of substance – as a network of polarised identities. Market-share is now also called mind-share and reveals that if you can target and cultivate such ‘identities’ you can use them as proxies for the empowerment of your own agenda. Nothing new in such manipulation. We learn it in infancy – but the consolidation of deceit as surrogate power running riot in our world is a specific culmination or fruiting of the lie and the father of it.

Evil works its own destruction. But illness is not the opposite of health, so much as an alternative within the realm of holding balance and imbalance as two facets of one freedom of expression.

I write in witness of a true father. Not the monkey mind of subtle and persuasive spin – but the Infinity of You – right where you thought to be. There is nothing or personal favour or achievement to the recognition of only truth as true. While we want illusions to also be true, we make an illusion of truth and fight over it or with it.

Are we not capable of true witness, serving true desire. In which we can truly meet, know and be known?
Cultural renewal can be sown, but it cannot be made to take. However, what we give sets the measure of our receiving and what we share we strengthen.

We have to actively and consciously WANT life, to release the illusion of its seeming, and a sense of private authoritative control that it seems to offer – but cannot deliver – or it would find its rest and completion in peace instead of the hungry ghost of attempt to grasp and control life to support a conflict agenda.

Identifictions want NOT to die – but they never were alive – but for the life you – or we – give them. That doesn’t negate the experience they gave us – but it does mean the distilling of our experience is to the truth and heart of Life rather than irrevocably set in grievance or retribution.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 9, 2020 10:44 PM
Reply to  Binra

Your writing is so convoluted Binra that it is almost impenetrable for most folks.
Open up to the simplicity of Truth.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TrxRgpsrpGg

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 10, 2020 5:04 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

— maybe that’s because it’s completely meaningless. just endless verbiage, to distract from discussion about the real world and real issues.

Binra
Binra
Mar 10, 2020 8:04 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

I do – and I write from there.
“No one understood better than Stalin that the true object of propaganda is neither to convince nor even to persuade, but to produce a uniform pattern of public utterance in which the first trace of unorthodox thought immediately reveals itself as a jarring dissonance.”
~ Alan Bullock, in Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives

Binra
Binra
Mar 10, 2020 10:04 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

I met Barry Long way back when. If the shoe fits… wear it.
I do not ‘think’ to generate posts – so much as align in relational willingness and flow.
The presumption that you should stop thinking is an endless spiritual absurdity if taken as a process by which to GET something,
Just release invested identity in whatever is not aligned to your consciously accepted purpose – Now – and be an open conduit for being whole in whatever you do – as the acceptance of wholeness of being instead of a filtered and distorted translation to the terms of your construct. (through a glass darkly)
No matter how sussed your ‘construct’ it cannot be ‘applied’ but you can devote your life to the wish and belief you can.
Just be still.
Alight in the grace of the Movement of your being that includes your self-awareness as noticing That You Exist – one with this and every ordinary moment and not set over or apart from All That Is.

Stillness becomes the ‘indwelling Consciousness’ if you yield to allow it to move you, move in you and reveal you to yourself as the recognition of love in ‘other’ and ‘world’.

Of course it is impenetrable to ‘most folks’!
‘Most folks’ operate the same pattern of defence or narrative control that is being pointed to in this article.
I write in shared willingness to listen – which is to be still of judging, comparing, translating into your own terms, and active in the desire for truth – rather than presuming to false-flag your narrative to the Living and attack their under the mask of patronising condescension.

However, mistakes ARE the way of learning and no call for damnation, demonisation or denial. The time to NOTICE in ‘in the act’ – not in post-conflict narrative-regrouping. Stillness is Infinity Alive – but – the mind will recoil in fear of losing self.
Don’t push the river or you’ll get in your own way, don’t let it run away with you or you will frighten yourself.

‘Most folks’ are in a polarised paralysis of conflict between pushing and pulling back. It’s the fight-flight ‘brain’ of the biological survival mechanism, elevated to ‘lordship’.

If you cannot or do not want to read because you have already judged it a chore, then go and do something else that you do truly want.

Truth is ‘hidden in plain sight as the Obvious’. When ‘most folks’ go looking for trouble they will always find it and invest in seeking to effect their judgements as their own framework of interpretation. But you – and any other reader here – is not ‘most folks – but are alive and whole no matter what your mind is spinning to role you in.

Groupthink is the death of Consciousness to ‘identity set in conflict management’. And in seeing to confer herd immunity it ‘self-isolates’ you from your true Belonging, Sustenance and Support.

Each word I use holds a consciously intended meaning within the whole. By conscious I mean presently FELT – no thinking required. Thinking as you are defining it is the losing of awareness of presence to experience of psychic diversions, distractions or distortions that can lead to communication breakdown. When most folks get stuck in the same place – they call it ‘reality’ – and invest in their adaptations to it as strategic defence considered ‘too big to fail’.

Barry’s gift to me (the Spirit through his agency) was a recognition that had nothing to do with anything but the clarity and freedom of being thoughtless in a moment of shared recognition – and therefor free to align in thought, word and deed from an innocence or joy in being. (and from there to notice within my own mind what doesn’t align true – and so bring that to awareness instead of struggling IN it)
No process of struggle – but then I had already lived the uncovering of that to its undoing.
You can do nothing of yourself. But of course ‘most folks’ operate most of the time as if not only CAN they – but they HAVE TO – because the pervasive fear is that we are alone (separated from love’s awareness now – and so driven to seek it FROM the very belief we are NOT love. This is self reinforcing futility.

We are always in and of the movement of our being but ‘most folks’ or better said – our projection onto others – is a way of perceiving Totality through a glass darkly (through a split mind).

I feel for the reintegration of all that we are – and respect that within that any of us may need to separate from that which separates so as to become established in a true Grounding before returning to the marketplace of social interaction.
Stillness and Motion are being and doing; heart and mind embodied.
I appreciate your willingness to link to videos that you perhaps feel vindicated by because you believe they are helpful – but in so doing you use them for your own personal agenda. This will muddy your own wellspring. If you have a source of inspiration, pause and listen in the heart before using it as the ‘appeal to Authority’. Your heart is your inner Authority – that embraces and aligns you when you be still and know. But your willingness to live the embodiment of that is no ‘claim to truth’ and an extension of what you are willing to extend and stand in.

My comments in regard to alien pathogens being a narrative belief is also applicable to external ‘saviours’. Inner and outer are One – and that is where recognition aligns and attracts synchronicity. The ‘problem’ invokes the ‘solution’ – but when the problem is defined in self-conflicting terms – its ‘solution’ is always some form of ‘managed’ or masked conflict. And always the call to war and sacrifice – set in some evasive deceit.

So don’t let the narrative framing of ‘problem’ dictate the range of your curiosity and awareness. Unless you find that you need the problem-solution as a process of delay in which to re-evalute your thought system. Any increase of awareness and choice is a step forward – even in choosing to retreat so as to align on home ground in something more solid to stand in amidst the shouting mind of baiting chaos than other people’s insights and good ideas. You have to make it your own by living your life – or you run as if you have spiritual support that then flies out the window when the shit hits the fan.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 11, 2020 1:59 AM
Reply to  Binra

‘When the student is ready the teacher appears’
After attending several of Barry’s talks I have lived in a flood of creativity.
Bless him.

Helen
Helen
Mar 9, 2020 9:45 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

indeed, Wikipedia isn’t the first encyclopedia to publish disinfo, but it IS the first to insinuate itself into the very fabric of the internet. what do you think Alexa & Siri consult when you ask them a question? what does Google throw up in its “knowledge boxes” in response to a search query? Wikipedia has a far greater reach than any of the encyclopedias of old, & people are consuming its lies when they do not realize it (whereas in the past no one ever “accidentally” consumed Britannica or Encarta). it also purports to be crowd-sourced when it is very clearly an intelligence operation, as reading any of the pieces linked in the above article will tell you (especially mine! also available in an easily-digestible video version version).

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 9, 2020 11:39 PM
Reply to  Helen

Thanks Helen. I have only recently found your work.
Along with Caitlin Johnston, Chris Hedges and sites like this, I feel better informed.
Keep shaking the cage.

jon
jon
Aug 13, 2020 2:14 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

Yikes. imagine being so utterly delusional you actually think something as undeniably heavily left-leaning as “Wikipedia”, is controlled by conservatives. It’s really astonoshing how far removed from reality you people are, what are you gonna say next – mainstream media is run by conservatives as well. All you need to do is look at some political articles relating to non-liberal subjects, Trump especially. The bias is blatant, to actually deny this is beyond lunacy.
And no matter where you are on the political spectrum, unless you’re a complete idealological puppet without a critical mind, you would acknowledge this AND you should be bothered by it. Wikipedia is just one of the global corporations who is pushing a leftist agenda. Step outside your tiny intellectual bubble and just look at the facts instead, and less time inside your idealogue self-affirming echo chamber

one of many examples specified here: https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/

pete
pete
Mar 7, 2020 4:34 AM

More detailed and sourced info on this topic:

Wikipedia: Rotten to the Core
https://helenofdestroy.com/index.php/49-wikipedia-rotten-to-the-core

Wikipedia: J’Accuse
https://helenofdestroy.com/index.php/58-wikipedia-j-accuse

Wikipedia: the Modern Delphic Oracle
https://helenofdestroy.com/index.php/51-wikipedia-the-modern-delphic-oracle

Wikipedia Beats Turkey, but It’s No Win for Free Expression
https://helenofdestroy.com/index.php/139-wikipedia-beats-turkey-but-it-s-no-win-for-free-expression

unreal
unreal
Mar 7, 2020 4:37 AM
Reply to  pete

PS: for some reason the forum software puts empty lines between title and url.

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 4:41 AM
Reply to  unreal

try it like this:

<a href="URL">TITLE</a>

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 4:41 AM
Reply to  milosevic

wow, it really worked.

milosevic
milosevic
Mar 8, 2020 4:46 AM
Reply to  milosevic
Amarka
Amarka
Mar 7, 2020 4:24 AM

Jimmy Wales: Porn-Peddler-cum-Paid-Hasbara-Agent

In a revelation that will no-doubt raise eyebrows amongst Wikipedia users, in 1996 Jimmy Wales co-founded an online Internet portal called Bomis which sold porn and explicit material to users. The following, actually taken from the Wikipedia article for Bomis(2) adds context:

Bomis became successful after focusing on X-rated media. “Bomis Babes” was devoted to erotic images; the “Bomis Babe Report” featured adult pictures. Bomis Premium, available for an additional fee, provided explicit material. “The Babe Engine” helped users find erotic content through a web search engine. The advertising director for Bomis noted that 99 percent of queries on the site were for nude women.

Even the New York Times reports that the creation of Wikipedia was financed by Wales’ earlier porn venture,(3) whereby he would literally hand deliver cheques from Bomis porn revenues in order to keep Wikipedia’s servers running. On a perhaps related but definitely unsurprising note, the same New York Times article also reveals that via his wife, Jimmy Wales is very closely connected to Tony Blair(3) who even attended their wedding.

Though peddling porn may not be illegal, at the very least it sheds light on the true character of this man. What heroic agent of free information exchange makes money from selling pornography?

Wales has close links to ‘Israel’ and was awarded $1 million ‘Israeli’ prize for his services

In 2015 Jimmy Wales told The Times of Israel(4) that he had visited ‘more than ten times’, suggesting links to the Zionist enclave. He even told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency,(4) “I’m a strong supporter of Israel, so I don’t listen to those critics.” Laughably Wales cites ‘women’s rights’ as one of his reasons(4) for his support of the illegitimate Zionist entity. This is a statement that rings as hollow as a drum considering this man made his money in an industry that degrades women and enslaves vulnerable girls.

Wales’ numerous visits to ‘Israel’ during this time period must be understood in the wider context of Zionist information warfare. In 2010 the UK Guardian reported that Zionist groups were establishing Wikipedia editing courses(5) in order to sway Wikipedia entries in the Zionist regime’s favour. Additionally in 2012 The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) launched a program(6) to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-‘Israel’ propaganda online for 5 hours per week.

Moreover, in the same year (2015) Mr. Wales was awarded $1 million by the ‘Israeli’ Dan David Foundation(7) after being selected by the prize committee for spearheading what they referred to as ‘the information revolution’.

The Electronic Intifada reports that the ‘Israeli’ government itself has been implicated in running the information war against Jeremy Corbyn. As part of this campaign, the ‘Israeli’ government has used its Act.IL software application to issue a mission for social media users to post negative comments against Jeremy Corbyn(1) suggesting he is an ‘anti-Semite’.

Let’s bring things full circle. Not only is Jimmy Wales a man of highly questionable moral character. Wales has close links to the Zionist regime, having visited it numerous times during the very same time period that Zionist groups were running Wikipedia editing courses and the ‘Israeli’ government was literally paying people to spread Zionist propaganda online. Wales’ efforts have culminated in him being awarded $1m by an ‘Israeli’ charitable organisation for his efforts in the ‘information revolution’. And now, interestingly, Mr. Wales is taking part in the very same information warfare campaign against Jeremy Corbyn that the ‘Israeli’ government has itself launched.

What is most alarming here is not merely Wales’ questionable character – having peddled porn and sleaze to make money – but the alarming indications that he could in fact be a de facto paid agent of the Zionist regime.

Notes

(1) ‘Israel running campaign against Jeremy Corbyn’ – The Electronic Intifada, 7 August 2018.
(2) ‘Bomis’ Wikipedia.com entry as of 10 August 2018.
(3) ‘Jimmy Wales Is Not An Internet Billionaire’ – The New York Times, 27 June 2013.
(4) ‘Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales likes Israel but stays neutral’ – The Times of Israel, 19 May 2015.
(5) ‘Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups’ – The Guardian, 18 August 2010.
(6) ‘Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook’ – The Electronic Intifada, 4 January 2012.
(7) ‘Wiki founder wins $1m Israeli prize’ – The Times of Israel, 10 February 2015.
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http://empirestrikesblack.com/2018/08/meet-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales-ex-porn-peddler-paid-by-israel-to-spread-zionist-propaganda/

Wikipedia/Hasbara

Systematic gatekeeping for Jewish interest on Wikipedia

“…….Basically, Wikipedia was holed below the waterline as soon as editors such as Jayjg became firm personal friends of Jimbo Wales and set about writing history the way they wanted it to be. Jayjg was eventually told to knock it off, but only after most articles within the topic were heavily contaminated by the activities of him and his numerous cronies, great and small. Towards the end of 2010, one can still see a few very high-quality editors left and a huge amount of the most utter dross, editors who should, in very many cases, have been identified and stopped within days of their first appearance.

The content of this page is intended to demonstrate the bias within Wikipedia brought about, ultimately, by the selective promotion of Zionists such as Jayjg to all administrative roles.

Some of this page is a collection of evidence of the organisation (and funding) behind this manipulation. ……………”

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikipedia/Hasbara

“…………Jimmy Wales and the violating of children. In the 1990s Wikipedia’s criminal ‘founder’ Jimmy Wales, was selling internet pornography, and became known to US government as someone willing to violate children, tell lies, murder innocent people, and to be the largest global fraudster in the history of the internet. Wales accepted the ‘deal’ to be enriched posing as the founder-leader of the CIA’s Wikipedia, and to be the ‘face’ of a global operation of terrorism, molesting of children and murder, using a CIA-orchestrated ‘non-profit’ spreading lies under fake and anonymous names.
 
The willingness to violate children and tell any lie to help kill innocent people or defraud any nation or non-US company, and a sadistic pleasure in doing so, is a common element of the top members of Jimmy Wales’ Wikipedia ‘team’, as well as of their main support, the Google Inc legal department under David Drummond. The requirement to be either a top Wikipedia administrator, or a Google lawyer, is that of being a psychopath ready to lie, destroy and murder the most innocent of victims……………….”

https://pastebin.com/BeppgiMJ

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 8, 2020 10:33 PM
Reply to  Amarka

Well, if you ignore the treatment of Palestinian women, imprisoned, tortured, subject to forced nakedness at check-points, their children routinely murdered, their houses destroyed etc, the victims of Israel’s booming sex-trafficking and pornography businesses, the orthodox and ultra-orthodox women afflicted by Talmudic subjection, and poor Israeli women living in the second most unequal country in the OECD, then the remaining Israeli women probably have it pretty good, living comfortable lives on stolen land.