One aspect of the horrifically disturbing Coronavirus Bill(UK) is the changes being made to the registration of deaths. Here’s how it’s explained in the Introduction. The Bill will (our emphasis):
– Expand the list of people who can register a death to include funeral directors acting on behalf of the family
– Enable electronic transmission of documents that currently have to be physically presented in order to certify the registration of a death
– Remove the need for a second confirmatory medical certificate in order for a cremation to take place
– Remove the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 requirement that any inquest into a COVID-19 death must be held with a jury. Other notifiable diseases will still require an inquest with a jury
How do these changes help in the containment of a pathogen, which is the alleged purpose of this bill?
Let’s take a look.
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“Enable electronic transmission of documents that currently have to be physically presented in order to certify the registration of a death”
Well, in an imagined scenario in which no one can leave the house for anything (except visiting the Job Centre apparently), then sending documents might have to be done electronically. But even so, the absence of hard copy in the records is obviously worrying. Electronic copies are much easier to fake or alter. The safeguards are reduced.
But, let’s be generous and accept this.
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Remove the need for a second confirmatory medical certificate in order for a cremation to take place
Is this about hastily managing the mass of corpses the most hysterical projections have been claiming are imminent?
Well, ok, let’s assume they are panicking and this is the plan.
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Expand the list of people who can register a death to include funeral directors acting on behalf of the family
Now, how is this a precautionary or time-saving move?
The current UK requirement about who can register a death is very specific. The registrant must either be: (our emphasis)
- a relative who was present at the death
- a relative present during the person’s last illness
- a relative living in the district where the death took place
- anyone else present at the death
- an owner or occupier of the building where the death took place and who was aware of the death
- the person arranging the funeral (but not the funeral director).
It’s not hard to see the rationale for this. Once you remove all these requirements and start allowing people in the commercial business of death, who will have no connection whatsoever to the deceased or their family, the capacity for malpractice of various kinds to enter the process increases considerably. What good is served by increasing that risk? And what benefit accrues?
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Remove the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 requirement that any inquest into a COVID-19 death must be held with a jury. Other notifiable diseases will still require an inquest with a jury
Why do inquests into alleged Covid-19 deaths need to be held without a jury, when all other ‘notifiable’ disease inquests will continue to have juries present?
Are they assuming an inquest on a potential Covid-19 victim will be more likely to bring the pathogen into the courtroom than an inquest on anyone else?
Could they not find another way of getting round this perceived risk that didn’t involve dismissing the jury?
I’m inclined to think they probably could.
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What do all these new specifications add up to?
With this new bill in place it will be possible for a funeral director (a profession that requires no specific training or certification) to register deaths of people he has never seen and knows nothing about, and to then perform their cremation based on nothing but the original death certificate, signed by a solitary MD, who will not, of course, be required to make any statement to anyone about any part of this, unless there happens to be an inquest.
And if there is an inquest, an alleged involvement of the ‘novel’ coronavirus is enough grounds exclude the jury, comprised of members of the public with the right to ask questions, and make the case directly to the Coroner, who is , of course, a government official.
So, is this about ‘containment’ of the virus and expediting the process? Or about removing safeguards and public scrutiny? Is it quicker to call a funeral director (who is likely busy) and ask them to register your loved one’s death, or to simply go online and do it yourself?
How happy are you with this particular development?
You tell me.
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If I can convince anyone that a hypothesis is an axiom, I haven’t done anything but proselytized them. Here is an axiom for everyone to think about, “the brainwashed do not know they are brain-washed.” The Covid-19 is only a scare tactic for the cowardly, mindless people to submit themselves to an oligarch so they can feel safe.
In this era of scientific truth anybody showed evidence that a dead body can transmit a respiratory virus like the Corona virus?
Another blog catches up with this story (only 6 weeks later…) https://hectordrummond.com/2020/05/08/ronan-maher-clauses-in-the-coronavirus-act-changed-how-we-record-deaths-its-time-to-change-them-back/
It’s funny, isn’t it, how every time government removes rights and safegaurds to “make things more efficient”, the number of civil servants and quango employees continues to grow inexorably?
Kelly, Skripal, Assange, etc … don’t get your hopes up for something being passed by the government that is in the interest of the general public. Those politicians all have their loyalties, and none of them are loyal to their voters or to the UK. Lack of accountability results in all sorts of problems that can only be resolved by replacing the whole shebang. At least Assange is still alive, RIP David Kelly.
What if, one month before 7/7, a piece of legislation came into force, the Inquiries Act 2005, which guaranteed that there could be no such thing as an ‘independent’ or‘public’ inquiry under its terms?
What if the Iqra bookshop in Beeston, Leeds, at which it is claimed the alleged perpetrators were radicalised, was run by Martin ‘Abdullah’ McDaid, a British Muslim ‘convert’ and ex anti-terrorist operative in the elite Special Boat Service?
Memory is slightly foggy on this, but in regards to 7/7, didn’t they dispense with the legal requirement of autopsies prior to the death certificates being given for those that died?
It’s probably mentioned someone in here:
Travel restrictions, martial law.
Unemployment’s blessings for corporate.
Xenophobia in general.
Negative branding of China.
Culling the poor.
Stock market volatility benefiting the upper crust.
Endless opportunities for disaster capitalism.
Celebrity solidarity exhibitionism
Public display of ‘philanthropy’.
Bailing out banks and billionaires.
Silencing all other world news (wars, climate etc).
What is there not to like? (if you belong to the 1 %)
Boeing is touting for a bailout for the 737 Flying Turkey using the pretext of the CV.
They haven’t paid a cent in tax for over 10 years.
There will be many other deadbeat corporations jumping on the bandwagon, just like 2008.
Cue another bonanza of share buybacks and executive bonuses.
So far, Trump has just burnt through another $11 trillion in a futile attempt to prop up the stock market, $33,000 per head for every man, woman and child.
What does Joe Lunchbucket get out of this?
Sweet FA. Not a carrot.
Employed adults MAY, in the fullness of time, bureaucracy permitting, get a (means tested) “Direct Payment” of $1,000. This is deferred tax, which will be clawed back from Joe next financial year.
Trump wanted $1,200, but Democrats like Feinstein thought that was too generous. She sold off $6 million in shares in a neat bit of insider trading while they were telling everyone everything was just fine and dandy. As did all the other Congress Swamp Creatures.
I wonder what happened to all the guillotines that were used in the French revolution? Were they put into storage somewhere?
I really really wonder what it will take for people to wake up. Just the blatant, in your face bullshit of all this.
Did met one guy today (unemployed) said straight out: ‘all this Coronavirus thing is a complete scam, and Morrison and the other maggots in Parliament (Canberra) are traitors’.
Last week, a French man abt 70, lived here 30 years said it was ‘all about covering up the economic meltdown’.
They’ve been the only two I’ve met so far who have questioned this.
Australia dosn’t have a history of groups like the Levellers, Chartists, Luddites, etc.
So Off-G , Catte & co , the mini Mission impossible team what’s the next caper?
DoH have cranked their tally machine into place – not made in China to high quality – but cobbled together in the shed:
Cuba have sent 50 doctors to Italy, Russia sending Army specialists, China plenty of kit.
Meanwhile we in the uk still don’t have a reliable and quick test for n-cov or covid or an idea of total infections or recovered or start date.
The legislation gets pushed down our wide open gullets like so many foie gras geese linining up to have our livers fattened for harvest.
Just another psyop done and delivered – Hard Brexit (anyday now), followed by crucifixion of JC then the pre-Coup and Junta installed by vote rigging and mass propaganda, followed by the grand worldwide plague to hide the gfc2 and defeat in the ME and collapsed fictions of Russia and novichok Douma OPCW, Ukraine to Uyghurs.
(Guess thats where they all , bozo and laurakoftheCIA, disappeared to post election, to get their briefings and maybe secret vaccinations from Brains on their Tracey Island in the sun?)
Plenty of spun wool over our eyes and agitation professionaly delivered.
“now over to the ‘digital dashboard”
Prepare to use your bog rolls – we told you to stockpile enough – as we deliver the thousands of body bags to local centres near you – bring out your dead!”
Cue the MI theme. Exit the gurning team of operatives with zillions stolen and foreign country in chaos!
Here! here! Glad someone has the view from the 30,000 foot level here. This will be the “Greatest Rubbish Foisted on Humankind” in a thousand years. This virus gives the “GO” for all of the sociopaths–be they political, financial, or other–to run wild. Lock-down free people, harass and intimidate free speech, and steal your property by manifold ways of excess taxation, outright confiscation, or other nonsense.
By the by–here in FUSA–what has all happened to the wails and screams of the following crisis du jour previously seen on every TV here: racism, patriarchal tyranny, trans-genderism, phobia of every order, “safe spaces,” gun control, knife control, pedophilia, glass ceilings to be shattered, ad infinitum?
As someone just mentioned, “Reality” is what remains standing after all of people’s pre-conceived notions, dreams, and fantasies vanish.”
why do they always call it a “dashboard”?…
…like: hamilton68 dashboard, etc….
I tell you: if you had the slightest idea what is going on in Italy, Spain and soon even in the UK, you wouldn’t write such rubbish. Read before you write. Deal with what you need to deal with: getting the people to change their habits and life.
Seems like you have a glass bowl?
I prefer statistics, over glass bowls, with which I mean the real stuff, not what the media with their phony experts who know nothing make of this. And the real stuff shows that this ‘epidemic’ is no different as with regular flue season.
Please tell ne whats going on in england apart from a bog roll war ? Im here haven’t moved no plauge no piles of dead and dieing just project fear .
“getting the people to change their habits and life”
…- and there *it* is…
Maybe that’s how we were told Sir David Attenborough had died? Yeah here in New Zealand and really he is fine
What a grisly thought–inconveniences can be conveniently dealt with under the veil of COVID-19.
It’s an “all purpose virus” serving as an omnipotent stone killing several birds at one time: it cloaks the worldwide financial collapse; it psychologically terrorizes the world’s population into submission, it heightens justification for internet censorship, and it gains acceptance for “medical Martial Law.”
When all is said and done, and this panic pandemic is “officially over” statistics in the US will reveal that COVID-19 was not any more deadly than any other annual flu. The 2018-2019 influenza season was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths.
I fear those statistics will never be “revealed”. It will still be up to genuine scientists and moral philosophers to dig them up.
You’re probably correct. Those statistics will be housed in an hermetically sealed safe buried deep in the ground and might only be discovered by archaeologist in the year 4020.
Galloway was a total sell out this evening.
Everyone should call this out for what it is.
We are all being rapidly marched into 1984.
He was pretty useless for 9/11 skeptics as well. So was Julian Assange. Whenever we want to shake a hand or give a hug to the good peeps, we find out they’re really into social-distancing;)
Consortium News have just published a very good podcast about what’s going on in France. It’s a little bit out of date, Acte 69, from two weeks ago, but it is a good primer…
(it starts 2 minutes in)
Meanwhile I’m in France under curfew, and history is bubbling and boiling.
That was very good! Thank you:)
Germany bans meetings of more than two people
Anyone who believes all this bullshit needs a brain transplant.
It comes right on top of this…
Angela Merkel in quarantine
That reminds me to watch Sophie’s Choice again;)
Macdonalds has closed down as well.
Should make Little Greta happy.
The question now is: what next? I don’t mean from the media since we all know what that will be: more of the same with increasingly loud themes from Jaws and Psycho and more and more zombie heads in the studio with hushed tones of doom. No – I’m referring to the public reaction. I have already seen people express anger and disgust with the nationwide pantomime. How long before that turns into mass protest? And a related question: How long till the guns start going off to enforce containment?
I scanned through the BTL comments on this article in the Mail from three days ago and was immediately struck by the pleasantly surprising number and quality of comments, endorsed by largely ‘up votes’, questioning the official narrative and the ‘containment’ measures being demanded. Overall I got the impression that the majority of commenters/voters were sceptical of the Government’s actions.
You find this pretty often in the DM. It amazes me that the folks still bother reading it.
Watch France (if you’re able to get any real news from France).
‘History in the fast lane’ doesn’t adequately describe what’s going on at the moment.
And please, I get very bored with British ex-pats in France who get all their news from Sky or the BBC, et al.
I should also add that the French media are equally appalling.
One of the big awakenings in France in recent years is that the MSM are a complete and utter joke.
The complete whack jobs in GCHQ will no doubt be monitoring every word I’m typing.
We’re coming for you…
A posting on the procedures for reporting deaths seems to have disappeared into the ether.
Some people believe that the whole CV Saga is either a gigantic hoax or an outbreak of mass hysteria, or some combination of both.
That may or may not be the case, but the Greta style “We Are All Doomed” Brigade do have a point.
The latest assessment by Goldman Sachs is predicting a contraction of 24% in the US economy.
Bridgewater’s figure is 30%.
Some people dismiss these forecasts as absurdly optimistic.
There are realistic predictions of a further 3 million jobless within a week, and 7 million within a fortnight. And in the US, when you lose your job, you lose your health care as well.
The reaction of the Trump administration thus far has mirrored that of Obama in 2008.
Bailing out the banksters and the Wall Street Wide Boys while leaving Main Street and ordinary people to fend for themselves.
In the 6 months prior to the CV outbreak, Trump poured $9 trillion into overnight Repo operations to shore up his big beautiful stock market, and a further $2 trillion over the past couple of weeks.
$11 trillion down the drain, squandered to no effect.
About $33,000 per man, woman and child in the US.
This $11 trillion of freshly minted toilet paper might possibly have had some impact if it had been distributed universally to ordinary Americans. Even the recent $2 trillion would have covered a universal handout of $6,000 per head, enough to tide people over in the short term.
Ordinary Americans who lose their jobs MAY, in due course, in the fullness of time, (bureaucracy permitting), receive a “Direct Payment” of $1,000. This is a deferred tax payment which will be clawed back from them next financial year.
This was to have been $1,200, but Democrats like Feinstein (who dumped $6 million of shares at the top of the market in a neat bit of insider trading, while telling all the hoi poloi not to worry) thought that was overly generous.
The whole financial system was already a house of cards, and the CV has just provided a scapegoat for its inevitable collapse. The straw that broke the camel’s back, to mix metaphors.
You have to accept that nobody is telling the truth about anything.
Everybody is lying to us, just for a change.
Trump didn’t pour anything into the re-po market. The Federal Reserve, a private consortium of banks, did so. Trump is just the front-man.
It’s just the same: the US taxpayer is stumping it up.
The dollars being pumped into the repo market were not tax dollars. They were completely new, created with a click of a mouse.
Completely new, and completely devoid of content, like the current generation of air-heads claiming to have degrees in “business studies” and “economics”.
Few of them know what a dollar really is.
“Federal Reserve Takes Drastic Action By Pumping $1.5 Trillion Into The Ether”
Following the Cantillon Effect, those created dollars will flow to the deserving rich, first, then be ‘trickled down’ with ever increasing interest attached, to the sheep, who must be shorn, not slaughtered-until now?
But look on the bright side, R. Think of all the hard pressed billionaires and hedge fund managers getting a helping hand.
Property prices in Tel Aviv will BOOM.
No, Trump stood on the balcony, emptying out suitcases full of $100 bills on to the trading floor. I saw him do this.
Crapitalism can’t survive a shutdown of more than a few weeks.
Hotels, restaurants, airlines, leisure, retailing, will be first to go, followed by manufacturing and all other sectors and private equity. A tsunami of bankruptcies in businesses large and small, which simply cannot survive with no cash flow.
The population may soon be beyond the control of the PTB, with widespread looting, crime, disorder, and social and political unrest. All the convicts and career criminals will shortly be released and turned loose to prey on society. Think what happens when police shoot some drug pusher or armed robber in “normal” times.
Was all this engineered by the billionaire class in their own interests?
Maybe. These people more than doubled their wealth in the 10 years after the 2008 crash, people like Bloomberg from $3 – 62 billion.
Although the airline industry has collapsed, the private jets business is booming as never before, as our masters and betters jet away to their elite survivalist gated compounds, their converted missile silos, their bunkers and funk holes in New Zealand, Idaho, Montana and Epstein style Caribbean islands, leaving the Deplorables to fight it out for the last toilet roll.
We are now seeing an exodus of the elite, an elite bug out. They were obviously aware what was going on, Feinstein style, and all the bunkers and bolt holes were acquired long before the CV.
They seem to have realised that the current brand of crapitalism has run its course, and they needed to get out while they could, with enough money to soak up most of the blood.
At the same time, there are indications that they are in a blind panic and reacting to events, rather than coolly looting the public treasury as in 2008.
This is possible of course Paul. Worth remembering that the plod blow away innocent people too.
Look at this logically.
The entire airline and tourist industry has now collapsed, with the loss of 100s of thousands of jobs.
Dear Greta has been telling us for the best part of a year now that we must all stop flying, to ‘save the planet’.
Do you get how co-ordinated this is?
Don’t worry, we can always borrow her little yacht if we need to go anywhere.
All of us? On one yacht? Paul, arn’t you forgetting, you know, social distancing.
I was going to isolate myself on the mizzen mast up the crow’s nest.
⛵ Well, I hope you put on a safety harness… Things are looking grimmer by the day. All of New Zealand is in lockdown for a month… Level 4. Interesting to know how many plush private jets arrive in NZ in the next couple of weeks. While everyone is locked in their homes.
Partial lockdown here in Australia, essential business like supermarkets and pharmacies staying open, cafes staying open for takeaway coffee and food only. Pubs and cinemas closed. 5000 strong Coronavirus police force instigated to enforce self isolation and closures.
Hmmm, but 20 people lined up all together to get a coffee. Interesting.
Bojo The Clown just put the UK on lockdown last night.
Postscript…. Regards the press conference in New Zealand (on YouTube) by Saint Jacinda Ardern about the level 4 lockdown.
All comments are turned off. As they are for a second press conference about the NZ lockdown.
Comments from the rabble are strictly verboten…
If the govt and the msm are in cahoots in propagating this narrative which seems evident I expect that within the next 24-48 hours the UK will move to a French / Spanish style ‘house arrest’ scenario where only govt authorised trips are permitted.
The first thing that struck me today was the mail leader complaining of all the people out in the parks and beaches etc and not ‘self isolating’. This suggested that the govt.’s next response would be to ensure that this wasn’t possible. A further headline this evening suggested the govt weren’t happy with the present situation and that it wasn’t sufficient.
Be interesting to see where HM Govt go next. Seems the natural next step. Problem reaction solution. Media complain, govt. respond and then total control of the population. Unthinkable just a few short years ago. What then…?
This is a government that won a totally rigged election last December, and has now suspended all further elections and will shortly bring in martial law.
I know a lot of people will find this hard to swallow, but it’s happening, folks.
Wake up and smell the fascism…
Go for a long walk tomorrow if you get the chance.
You won’t be able to this time next week.
I will. Possibly better not to spread this defeatist surrendering mentality.
Here’s a thought. The draconian measures being introduced to halt all social life are bound to lead to violent explosions. Could it be that the PTB know a revolution was coming anyway and they are trying to pre-empt it on their terms i.e. where they will find it easier to put down isolated little groups?
They plan in detail 20 years ahead what they do today. They plan 50 years ahead where they want to be. They plan and do.
These leaders and countries who don’t obey are obliterated.
Except that the pent-up rage of informed people can manifest in somewhat unpredictable ways. Planning in detail 20 years ahead is really pushing it… I think they would be wise to move to the Moon, along with their loot. There isn’t much left for them here in any case, and they would still notice stench of us moribund Deplorables on Earth, wherever they try to hide. Come to think of it, I’d rather see them in another galaxy. They have no purpose on our beautiful Earth.
I like the Moon – it is a solace and wouldn’tve knowing it hadbeen infested by THEM!
They can fuckoff to Mars as they always dreamt with their new messiah – Elon the irresistible Musk – it is just an occasional speck in the night sky and we can ignore it.
Well, unless they start using HAARP-style technology to mimic Coronal Mass Ejections to f*** up our climate.
The thing with psychopaths is that others being happy AND INDEPENDENT makes them want to kill themselves, so they have to destroy that at all costs.
You can be happy as their servant, underling, slave.
But you cannot be happy being independent of them.
Or if you are, you have to self-isolate for generations. They tolerate the Amish because they do not interfere.
They do not tolerate folks like JFK ordering them about; Steve Biko empowering a whole nation of black folks; Jeremy Corbyn; anyone who actually says ‘I do not respect your authority as it based not on compassion but on thuggery’.
As always, it depends on whether the police and army go along with the psychopaths who rule us. Last year the French police went on strike…
French police take to the streets for Paris ‘anger march’
You really couldn’t make this stuff up, and the police strike happened amid all the chaos that’s happening in France.
The Soviet Union collapsed very quickly, and the principle reason was because the army in East Germany refused to open fire on the people.
‘Interesting times’ is a bit of an understatement at the moment.
Prison warders were rioting recently, pre virus. But when all the cons are turned loose they might not be needed any more.
I can’t see British squaddies shooting into crowds.
You know what kills germs and viruses?
In the Netherlands we currently have plenty of it, and it’s quite beautiful too: day after day a clear blue sky thanks to almost zero (air) traffic.
Don’t call me an expert on this (but who cares about experts), but my grandmother already knew this. Get out of the house, breathe in fresh air, put your windows open get rid of the bugs inside the house!
You get the idea.
Still we are supposed to believe that staying inside our own house will disappear the virus. Well
Tell that to an Italian…
But seriously, where do bugs breed and spread best: in closed rooms, with non-fresh air that is airconditioned like… in supermarkets and hospitals
And the only places we are allowed to go to (if the self-isolators have their full in NL, which fortunately they haven’t yet) is to the supermarket or (when you’re sick), the hospital!
How self-isolators do and think is mind boggling…
But haven’t you heard? They’re all dead! The MSM told me!
But haven’t you heard about the insect apocalypse? All the bugs should be treasured is what I read;)
No bugs, no birds, no clearing away all the shit, no pollination, no food-chains, no people.
Bugs and birds will be watching people disappear, not the other way around;)
It’s a race. Populations of invertebrates are crashing, bird numbers crashing, large, non-domesticated, animals fast disappearing, 90% of large pelagic fish gone etc, etc. It’s not called a ‘Mass Extinction Event’ for nothing.
Up to around the 1950s when antibiotics became available, fresh air and sunlight was recognised as a natural antibiotic.
This was the treatment in sanatoriums for TB.
Nurses opened windows and wheeled patients outside whenever they could.
And when biological weapons programmes began in the 1950s at places like Porton Down, they found that microbes could not survive for long when exposed to sunlight and fresh air.
I’ve heard that is true for UK cabinet ministers as well. 🙂
The sign of a blue sky, without white, high albedo, ‘global dimming’, high altitude clouds born of con-trails, might be beautiful, but it is ominous. The lack of those clouds after 9/11, with just three days of air traffic lock-down, led to a one degree Celsius rise in average temperatures over the USA. The heat usually reflected by the clouds, back into space, warms the Earth by day, and it cools at night, absent the heat-trapping ‘blanket’ of those clouds. Further, acute, climate and weather instability will probably ensue.
There is at this stage no reason to anticipate anything above normal numbers of critically ill or fatalities.
No doubt ICUs will be stretched at this time of year, and this will be exacerbated by isolation procedures – mostly unnecessary and possibly cynically intended to help create backlogs and delays. These are artifacts.
VG the aggressiveness of covid is real.
Whether it was a jump from the wild in Wuhan (unproved) or created and deployed (circumstantial evidence).
The rundown of NHS (here) to facilitate privatisation removed the vital resources and capacity for emergencies (proved).
The containment purposely delayed (proved).
NO definitive tests or testing implemented (proved).
Massive intrusive legislation and emergency powers enacted and being deployed (proved).
Social interaction and protest curtailed by lining up like sheep to slaughter instead of being forced to by their thugs (look around you).
The 50 year aim and 20 year detailed plan is implemented for the takeover of enormous populations and their expansion into the plentiful world by these ancient pathocrats who don’t want to share.
The question you, me and Off-G et al should be answering is
How the fuck do we stop the bastards?
Otherwise OUR grandkids may not be allowed grandkids of their own. In a world of aristocrats and their praetorians and civil servants and house slaves – their brave new world for THEIR decedents ONLY.
They are going to replace us all with robots anyway.
They are planning to …
They would like to …
They think they can …
Greece’s prime minister has announced that as of 6 AM tomorrow a curfew will come into effect nationwide. In a televised address – his third in less than a week – Kyriakos Mitsotakis said the measure will prohibit “the circulation and movement of citizens” deemed to be “purposeless” – the strictest restriction, yet, in the fight to contain the novel coronavirus spreading further.
Organised democratic state? Where?
Days become hours become minutes? Got it! Umm – the next one is seconds! Oh my God! Tick tock tick tock…
I smell inserted microchips in the air.
Isn’t that a contradiction? I smell a whiff of gas…
And I’m sure the media won’t disappoint them.
Bloody socialising! It must stop! Don’t you know there’s a war on? Sorry – I meant virus!
The leisure activities! They must stop! When people are out there TALKING to each other, they’re not indoors getting their constant stream of fear porn.
Monday 23 March 2020
House of Commons
House of Lords
Home Affairs (including Topical Questions)
Coronavirus Bill: Business of the House motion
Coronavirus Bill: all stages
Staffing of Accident and Emergency departments – Chris Bryant
Given that maybe many thousands are going to expire in icu’s because of Covid in a shortish period of time – it seems reasonable not to have full coroners courts for them.
But the ones at home…thats a slippery slope. I guess many may go too quickly to get hospitalised and others choose to go at home with family around, but what if it wasn’t covid? I mean what if some take advantage of disposing their parent instead of seeing their inheritance going in social care?
I’m also expecting a return to being locked in ones own parish days with gated areas and swarms of drones deployed while streets are empty – incase they drop on peoples heads.
May become a clay pigeon type new urban sport – better find my old catapult to go with my trusty pitchforks to take back our streets!
I tend to agree. It became obvious when NIST issued that fantasy which defied actual scientific explanations about fires caused by jet fuel taking down three large edifices in New York City that we were heading toward a new dark age in which belief rivaled the Scientific Method.
A must-see: James Corbett’s “MEDICAL MARTIAL LAW 2020” – https://www.corbettreport.com/mml2020/
Does cover the long term planning for implementing the ‘world government,’ loss of personal freedoms forever and the not so coincidental event on major leaders workshopping a corona virus emergency in OCTOBER last year under the Gates Foundation- including the Chinese head of their epidemic planning.
Catch it while you can – the net shut down is not far off.
By contrast big companies ( Govt gave example of British airways )will be assisted by Govt buying shares.(eg BAILOUT). But as the cash influx is used up creating losses this will result in a decline in net assets & share value. This will result in a greater fall in share value for existing shareholders (pension funds etc) than it will for the Govt new shares created. When things pick up the Govt will sell its shareholding lauding the recovery of its investment but forgetting to mention the interest on the debt taken to finance the original purchase. That interest will be the ongoing burden on taxpayers.
So small co’s burdened with debt & interest. Big companies continue paying bonuses etc to directors etc.
More to come I think !!
Off Guardian on the technical aspects of declaring death.
Brush up your Maritime law.
Cestui Que Vie
Cestui que vie is French for he who lives. It is a legal term for an individual who is the beneficiary of a trust or insurance policy, with rights to property and the income and profits that the property provides.
BREAKING DOWN Cestui Que Vie Cestui que vie as a legal concept dates to the medieval period, specifically England. During this time, the owners of farms and other properties could be absent for extended periods of time as they traveled, whether for business or religious purposes.
” That interest will be the ongoing burden on taxpayers.”
I had a theory that this is the ‘ Bail Out ‘ that the Financiers and the people who work for them knew was guaranteed as in – This must never happen again stakes ( i.e Bail Ins were the way to go and the State says you are on your own ) – and it’s happened right before our very eyes.
According to a poster 9 Tr in 6 months and that’s just the US.
And more guarantees to come?
Whether this is by design or by opportunity taking I don’t know – but happened it has and it’s all the ordinary people in the World’s money being used once again.
Just what you want to wake up to on a Sunday morning, as you light up your first Gauloises of the day (despite declaring a heath emergency, tabacs are one of the ‘essential shops’ that are allowed to stay open)…
French parliament has passed an emergency bill that gives the government special powers during the coronavirus crisis. The legislation allows the government to restrict freedom of movement and requisition goods and services over a period of two months.
France is now effectively under a curfew, and today it feels like a tinder box that looks set to explode sometime soon.
Hopefully the emergency powers being pushed through by Boris & Co won’t be rubber stamped like they have been in France.
At least you’re not in England where we meekly submit to all and any restrictions while worrying about the health of Elizabeth and Phillip Windsor.
lundiel, I’m a Londoner born and bred. I left school in 1980, just as Margaret Thatcher assumed power, and shortly before Reagan was installed.
Throughout the 40 years of my working life I’ve seen each decade getting worse and worse, with regard to worker’s rights and the post-war consensus. We’re now in a place that would have been unimaginable even a decade or so ago.
But I have great faith in my fellow Brits. Yes, the Brits may be slow to move – unlike the French, who have revolution as part of their DNA – but when the Brits are stirred incredible things often happen.
Remember what brought down Margaret Thatcher.
Where does this idea that British folk aren’t as revolutionary come from – what about the Peasant Revolt, Levellers, Luddites and Chartists ?
Then we had the Tories.
Didn’t quite get rid of the aristos and their banker masters though did it?
That was a heck of a long time ago, although I must admit that neither are the French showing a particularly dramatic revolutionary spirit right now. They hate Macron, who was “voted for” by 20% of the people, yet there he sits, calmly shutting down their society.
Its in French DNA but not British despite the Peasant Revolt, Levellers, Luddites, Chartists. How does that work out ?
40 years of house price inflation driven by giving a whole generation the chance to buy their rented houses for next to nothing, which provided them unimaginable access to wealth which also tied them irrevocably into a low tax, non unionised mindset. Everything that followed was inevitable and they’d undrestably do anything to keep what they’ve got, even as they see it disappearing.
Until it all comes tumbling down, their houses are worth a lot less than what they paid, and their jobs are for, they will invest everything in keeping the status quo even though they know it’s wrong.
Thatcher ‘allowed ‘ the lower orders to get into the Borrowing markets via Big Bang.
This then gave said borrowers the fear of going on strike or fighting for their rights as they were no longer renters from the Council ( not all admittedly ) and covered by tenancy Acts but at the mercy of Laws that protect private capital.
40 years later as you rightly say we are left with very few brave souls.
The UK had a chance to vote for one – they voted for the coward instead.
So Corbyn was no Castro ( who knew ?) but I voted for him and would rather have a pale version of Castro rather than a lying cowardly shithouse who currently leads from behind whilst hiding behind the ” medical advice ” he is obviously ignoring.
When it all goes up the chute and if thousands die you won’t see this lying faker for dust.
Whatever your thoughts as to whether this Covid stuff is true -trust me – that is what will happen.
Too much like hard work for Johnson the Lazy.
He’ll get bored with it all – throw his hands in the air and scarper.
Like his Eton chum before him.
Only the fraud of Hitler’s Diaries can match him.
Four hundred years looting the world takes your mind off troubles at home.
Hmm, I left a decade before Rob and the last 40 years have destroyed my faith. “What brought down Thatcher?” The Tories did, substituting her with Major who was followed by her protege and on and on with the majority of the population buying into home ownership as a financial asset and pension pot, which denotes their whole outlook on economics and politics.
I also am a Londoner. I have no pride in that, Essex, where many Londoners ended up is the worst imaginable outcome for working class on solidarity. Other areas that Londoners moved to are the same, the new towns, places like Stevenage. The home counties are beyond redemption, along with the shires and the south west. There is no part of the UK that could be a fertile ground for any kind of collectivism other than nationalism.
….and while you get individual acts of extreme kindness, the general attitude is fuck you I’m buying everything I can.
Yes, Thatcher’s downfall was engineered by people within the Conservative Party and the rest of the establishment who had never liked or trusted her. The Left was used as another stick to beat her and as a cover for their real agenda of installing a pliable weakling. That’s how politics works in this country – the Left are only given the ‘victories’ that suit the (Tory) establishment.
I’m related to Sir Isaac Newton via my grandmother’s lineage on my father’s side of the constellation. Being a relative of Newton, and the son of a Chartered Accountant, I can assure all that Brits are insolvent and third world status since the brain trust at Oxford University was caught napping on-the-job prior, and up to the Lehman debacle that evidenced Her Majesty Parasite Queen Elizabeth II asking the so-called ‘best & brightest’ of investment banking in The City why they failed to foresee the genesis of the Great Financial Crisis once Bear Stearns was murdered March 10th 2008 around 11:00am New York shitty, man.
The entire edifice of Finance & Macroeconomics is beyond the imbeciles of the UK & EU plus USA.
Yes but there are laws against that now, these will put up with anything so long as they can see the parasitical family parading around all day at the tax payers expense.
Savaged by a dead sheep.
Thatcher down, Blair risen. Some difference.
Yet, as you say yourself, even after Thatcher we had decade after decade of conditions getting worse and worse. In fact, one could be forgiven for imagining that she had reincarnated as Tony Blair for all the good that war-mongering maniac did for “workers’ rights and the post-war consensus”.
Didn’t old Phil once admit he’d like to reincarnate as a deadly virus to kill huge numbers of people? Now he has to face the possibility that his wish might come sooner than he’d like … from such a virus.
He’s beyond caring in any case – currently a role model for Biden in the US.
The following is a post copied from George Burchett’s updates: George Burchett
WUHAN’S OUTBREAK: CHINA DEMANDS AN HONEST ACCOUNTING
by Thomas Hon Wing Polin
The following content is circulating in Chinese cyberspace.
Looks like China is finally in counterattack mode against relentless US efforts to blame it for the global COVID epidemic.
• It is now virtually certain that COVID-19 was brought to Wuhan by American troops taking part in the city’s World Military Games last Oct. 18-27.
• The 300-stong US contingent stayed at the Wuhan Oriental Hotel. It is located a mere 300 meters from the Huanan Seafood Market, where China’s outbreak began (see map below).
• Five of the US troopers developed a fever on Oct. 25 and were taken to an infectious-diseases hospital for treatment.
• 42 employees of the Oriental Hotel were diagnosed with COVID-19, becoming the first cluster in Wuhan. At the time only 7 people from the market were thus diagnosed, though they were treated first. All 7 had contact with the 42 from the hotel. From this source, the virus spread to the rest of China.
• Back in the US, the American team had trained at a location near Fort Detrick, the military’s viral lab closed down in July for various deficiencies.
The big question now is whether the transmission was planned, or accidental. Chinese authorities are awaiting an explanation from US authorities.
A few days ago, Mike Pompeo phoned Yang Jiechi, Chinese state councillor in charge of foreign affairs. (Pompeo’s counterpart is Foreign Minister Wang Yi. Yang is Wang’s boss… but never mind. Whatever Pompeo wanted to talk about must have been urgent and important.)
It was. Pompeo wanted the Chinese not to publicize what they had found. Yang’s reply: We await your solemn explanation, especially about Patient Zero.
China’s leaders long suspected involvement of the US military in the Wuhan outbreak. They were determined to stop the disease before pursuing the Americans for an honest accounting.
– (note: I have no way to verify any of this information, you know, like 99.999% of what I’m told in MSM and expected to simply credulously “believe,” but I certainly have every reason to believe the questions surrounding this matter deserve and open and honest accounting by U.S. authorities.) – Gary Weglarz
Fred – I get emails of progressive media posts from around the globe from George. To my knowledge there isn’t a specific “link” available to get George’s materials – what you have to do is simply email George at the address I will list below and he will put you on his mailing list and send you regular emailed articles. That is where the post I copied is from. Thanks for pointing out the lack of a way to connect with what I posted:
PS – George’s dad was the late Wilfred Bruchett, one of the truly great independent reporters. He helped expose America’s use of biological warfare agents during our attacks on N. Korea and did ground breaking reporting on U.S. crimes during the Vietnam war. His son George lives in Vietnam.
Fred – what is happening is that I enter the email address for George right after his name at the end of my post, and it shows on my post (until I actually hit “post comment”) at which point the rest of my post remains, but his email address magically disappears. I’ll try one more time, but I’m not sure I can rectify this? Sort of weird.
George Burchett – [email protected]
I took away the and it seems to have worked to post the email address.
And Wilfred Burchett was one of the few Western journalists who exposed the US biological warfare program in Korea during the Korean War.
I found this, and this. Gonna read them now, but I’ve seen other things dotted about that China is blaming the US…
Seems very thin to me. We’ll see soon enough if there’s any veracity to it.
Yeah-those nice Merkins would never do such a thang!
They did, or they didn’t. The only thing that matters is some verifiable facts.
You’re wrong there, Richard, the Americans are absolutely capable of such depravity.
Or were you being sarcastic? I can’t quite tell.
Toby – A major U.S. biowarfare lab Ft. Detrick was shut down last August by the CDC for scores of violations of serious safety violations, and another lab in Washington State. The U.S. military sends a delegation of over 300 military athletes to military games in China, they are housed right next to where the outbreak is identified soon after, yet these “athletes” fail to win a single medal in these games? You would think at least a silver or bronze in the “enhanced interrogation” events – no?
This is then followed by a complete American MSM demonization of China, the evil virus, and the Chinese government’s handling of the outbreak – but zero MSM coverage of the recent presence of the U.S. military, the games, the absurd “no medal” outcomes of the games, U.S. military housed in such close proximity to the first reported cases, the U.S. biolabs closures, etc. I’m not sure how much serendipity and convergence one needs to see to be willing to question our current “official narratives” – which are what in my opinion seem – “very thin.”
There is some good coverage at GlobalResearch and other sites independent of corporate and government control.
Thanks, Gary. I was looking into this last night and saw lots of similar information about America as the originator of the virus, including a lot of very alarming information from someone called Judy Mikovitis. But as a layman who can only research this stuff on the internet, I don’t think I have the experience to know for sure how much of which reports is the solid truth, and which is disinformation or similar.
And I agree, the official narratives seem very thin to me too. I was referring only to the Facebook post with “very thin”. I couldn’t find any corroborating evidence in support of it. Apologies for not being clear about that.
It ties in with event 201 held just at that time – which had the top chinese guy partaking!
As James Corbett and others already said and Off-G is now doing with this the main purpose seems to be of creating more authoritarian powers and pavlovian response of the worlds masses – martial law by the spirit of public good!
OMG…..just been up Sainsbury, they’ve sold out of fucking lager!!!!
Asked the shelf stacker in M&S what the sheeple were buying most of . Whole chickens was the answer. 😊
Headless ones ?
Drink a decent beer, man.
I have the most incredible sense of Déjà vu over this. When 9/11 happened, there was a certain Left wing blogger (now writing for the Guardian) who was non-committal over the attack but when the “conspiracy nuts” started to make themselves heard, he very vociferously came out on the official side. I see the same thing happening now with “the Left” i.e. they are right behind the mainstream media and I have even seen some of them use the same devices e.g. reversal of the burden of proof – saying the onus is on the doubters to prove THEIR case.
Sorry I should have mentioned that “the same thing happening now” means with reference to the coronavirus but at this point that hardly needs emphasising.
More money and job opportunities for ‘coincidence theorists’.
Oh dear, it’s becoming the old controlled opposition. Off-G battling but never quite winning against the Evil Groin, all sweat but no orgasm.
Sorry Off-G, your Snowflakes have blown it, but no orgasm.
Excuse me, what value does this have to the discussion?
Are you suffering hallucinatory withdrawal symptoms from standing in the chemist queues too long?
Tells us something about Jack’s obsessions.
I have to say I don’t find much if any force behind your worries. Opportunity to murder someone will be present and it looks likely the police will be as overwhelmed as the NHS. These rule changes seemed aimed a5 reducing contact which seems fair enough. But what about the changes to Regulatory Powers? It looks quite unnecessary but I’ve yet to see a legal analysis. It’s instructive that Johnson produced a very detailed 367 page Bill to grant himself Special Powers, obviously the product of expert care and attention. Meanwhile the same Government on Friday said it was stumped about how to help 5 million self employed. It’s “so difficult” they appear to have given up. It will cost the Tories dear if they can’t do it. Some might suggest Others should join the effort – politicians like John McDonald who DO have a plan which Tories can’t stomach. He’d make a fine a Chancellor right now; young Rishi could be his Deputy, he seems bright and obedient.
I can’t quite place the John McDonald you speak of. There is , however, a John McDonnell, who turned out to be a bit of a snake in the grass, what with his support of the the remain movement, a new referendum and all of that tosh. In other words helped to undermine Corbyn’s wishes to support the referendum result.
The Tories are absolute toast if they sacrifice their small business community. Worse loss than 1997.
If they even try to sell out the majority to big business this time, the only way they will rule in the next 20 years is by banning elections.
Boris Johnson was elected primarily on the Brexit issue: he has little popular support beyond that.
If he uses that Brexit mandate to shaft a whole nation, he should rightly worry about whether he will see his soon-to-be-born child reach adulthood.
Johnson has already used the ‘Brexit mandate’ to shaft the whole nation. The country has been going downhill fast ever since the referendum.
More fool anyone who bought into the evil clown’s posturing for his masters in Washington, over Brexit, business or anything else.
I prefer buffoon to clown.
I have glanced at this Bill. It is three hundred and twenty pages long. Our elected representatives are about to pass it into law without scrutiny or division. I cannot but wonder how many (if any) of them have even read it. Laws passed in haste invariably turn out to be bad laws. And this law looks (at first glance) like an exceedingly bad piece of legislation: bad in terms of dealing with a viral infection; bad in terms of its inevitable violations of human rights and liberties; and doubtless it will be very bad in terms of all kinds of unpredictable unintended consequences. Unless our elite know something I do not, I can only assume they have gone collectively mad. The response to the virus is going to cause far more harm than the virus.
none will have read it: it is the usual fascists trick of saying ’emergency, emergency!’ to stop proper debate and scrutiny.
Civil servants are fully culpable in such actions, they love fascist dictatorships as they are part of them.
Ah, but it’s only a temporary measure, R.
Former Congressman John Conyers in Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 probably put it best: “We don’t read most of the bills. Do you really know what that would entail if we were to read every bill that we pass?”
I doubt parliament is any different that the US House.
The unlikely champions of civil liberties are David Davis and Chris Bryant. Corbyn wants the powers to be reviewed. The Bill may be passed with amendment, though Johnson is against this. We’ll find out tomorrow.
I have posted several times that this law will not be passed or even read in parliament – statutory instruments will be used to get it on the statute book – bear in mind the official opposition (labour, sic) are all for it – things may change but the likelihood is that this will happen tomorrow
“Pay no attention to the bullet hole in the back of the deceased’s skull, I’m telling you this one died from COVID, not lead”
Since pAntifa couldn’t get any traction, now they’re going straight for our throats.
this has been very clever
first that psyop to gauge how well it will work [ ireland’s getting gold stars! ].
there’ been a push for vaccine mandates for a few years, and resistance.
in fact italy had huge protests against those, and poland/gemany.
in fact u pan-european one was planned this months.
vax mandates violates the NUREMBERG CODE!
anybody remember WHY that came about?
now they won’t be needed. most people will have anything injected, most likely.
including a barely [ even less than most vaccines ] coronavirus vaccine which might well be a tool for eugenics.
the fakedemic will ‘’worsen’’ into a real pandemic , and of course the likes of me will be blamed for it.
pitchforks/dissident camps will ensue .
the question is will there be a break in the proceedings or will it just continue?
in any case, population will be reduced, and the rest well controlled [ other than the pitchfork wielding agin evil anti vaxxers of course ]
and nary a jackboot needed achieve corporate fascism/totalitarianism !
and gates and co will turn the world into a luxury resort for themselves, with just enough slaves living in dystopian safety, no paradise, no…..
Which is why Johnson should invite Corbyn to become Deputy PM just as Churchill did with Attlee and other senior Labour figures. It gave the wartime government legitimacy and authority and helped avoid any lurch to fascism.
Denmark just passed a mandatory Corona vaccination law–even though no COVID-19 vaccine yet exists. Never put off till tomorrow what you can do today!
I’ll track Gates down and requisition justice much as Mussolini ended up with when he transgressed.
Hints of a plan ….
democracy = shamocracy
I unfortunately caught a piece of true fascist news making on skynews this morning – the housing minister talking of contacting all vulnerable people, by letter, advising them to follow the regime guidelines … it was sinister
Vulnerable, huh? And how many of these letters will be addressed to the man/woman literally ‘on the street’?
Here an eye opening article from the great Thierry Meyssan:
“COVID-19: PROPAGANDA AND MANIPULATION” – https://www.voltairenet.org/article209501.html
it’s props no coincidence that the country with the largest protests against vaccine mandates has the worst outbreaks.
Thanks – interesting commentary on why Iran has been affected so badly. Many of those over 60 exposed to US supplied chemical weapons from Iran – Iraq war have compromised health. Seems plausible although I wonder how this compares to the normal flu outbreaks from previous years. I guess all this shows many factors involved and to look beyond the headline figures.
And the then there’s the incoming effects of the depleted uranium cannon shells widely used throughout the Iraq war of 2003 and counting.
The French ) Le Monde, Facebook France and the French Ministry of Health undertook to censor a video of Professor Didier Raoult, one of the world’s most renowned infectiologists, because by announcing the existence of a proven drug in China against Covid-19, he highlighted the lack of a medical basis for the measures taken by President Macron.
“La chloroquine guérit le Covid-19” : Didier Raoult, l’infectiologue qui aurait le remède au coronavirus
It’s heart breaking to see the fear that elderly people are experiencing when trying to undertake the basic tasks of life – tasks that were often a struggle at the best of times. Is there anything we can do to alleviate their fear beyond giving them space when they’re out?
The outpouring of love and support ( outside of the toilet roll isles!) is very real. People remotely checking in on each other and suggesting ways of alleviating stress etc is very real. The genuine concern ordinary people are expressing for each other is heart lifting.
In these indescribable times it does your sole some good to remember that
Blubber. Many elderly people are much more at ease with this than younger people who, ironically are not at risk. My guess is that once you hit 80 or so (if you get that far) you are generally mentally prepared for the inevitable anyway. (If you are not suffering from dementia, of course.) And once you hit 90 most of the people you have known in your life are already gone.
My grandad used to say your allotted span was “3 score years and 10” (ie, 70) and used to joke that, as he was over 70 he was “trespassing”. In the end it was all over in a couple of days when he had a stroke aged 85.
Death is a part of life. It’s normal and it happens to about half a million of us in the UK every year.
indeed! and i never get old people who want to live forever/expect the young/children to be sacrifieced for that.
I’m approaching the age related killzone, and my main overwhelming emotion is barely, but as yet, controlled, venomous anger.
Listen to this. Probably the most disgusting radio broadcast I have ever heard in my life. The emotional manipulation of the public psyche is off the scale.
One technique they use is routinely deceiving the listener to believe all the people dying are dying “OF” Coronavirus ie coughing their guts up in the most horrible circumstances imaginable. But they always say “with” coronavirus, or “after contracting” coronavirus, or “after testing positive” for coronavirus. They are deliberately muddying the waters with language, which is clear, irrefutable evidence that an agenda is being carried out. The people are dying of natural causes, they are also testing positive in whatever test they are using. Many would very likely have tested positve a year ago too. Or ten years ago, because coronavirus is nothing new, it goes around and mutates every year, like clockwork, this is normal. They are just putting the magnifying glass on this so called “killer virus” to whip up hysteria and pass draconian laws. Something must be done about this.
People are not dying OF coronavirus. That’s the trick being employed to make this appear much worse than it is.
We must expose this fraud for what it is. You either report the facts clearly, or you burn in hell. It’s that simple. The likes of Steven Nolan are very much going to burn for perpetrating this massive crime against the people of this country and indeed the world. The evidence is already crystal clear, they are being totally disingenuos.
Disgraceful in the extreme. This broadcast highlights all their dirty tactics.
I haven’t listened to the attached report but from your opening statement the first name that struck me was Steven Nolan. I dont know if he is the subject of your report but I would say (and I havent actually listened to him for nearly 15 years) is he is the worst kind of manipulator I have ever encountered. Jobby is probably up there but only as I have come across him more recently. Nolan is the most egregious broadcaster I have ever had the misfortune to listen to.
Are the population effectively being induced to sign our own death certificate under the fear that demands protection?
For by such fear are all checks and balances overridden, invalidated, cast out and ruled out.
It’s a coffin fit!
One way of another, we all release this life in the body, but the harvest of our lives is not in the masking story of our personal survival so much as the life we have truly lived and shared in.
The choices by which we live or die are related to how much we invest in a masking defence and how much we align in knowing and being known.
Conflict avoidance can become the very means of our destruction.
A false sense of security can and will ‘deliver us unto the evils’ we thought to be escaping .
Howard Hughes died from self isolating?
“It may shock you to know that all the world’s bacteria have access to a single gene pool, which has provided an immense resource for adaptation, manifesting an array of breathtaking combinations and re-combinations for three billion years! Any bacterium—at any time—has the ability to use accessory genes, provided by other strains, which permits it to function in ways its own DNA may not cover. The global trading of genes through DNA re-combinations provides for almost endless adaptation possibilities. Therefore, what has been done to one has been done to all. Widespread use of antibacterial agents is both futile and disastrous. Future life sciences and medicine will comprehend the more effective use of agents to stimulate positive adaptation of bacteria resulting in chains of supportive symbiosis. In the presence of love, these positive adaptations naturally occur. In the presence of hatred and fear, negative and resistant strains of bacteria are more likely. Life forms are ever changing, and yet the basic chemistry of life remains the same. Do not cling to forms that are passing, but seek for an understanding of life that embraces and includes all possibilities. This is accomplished through integrating and expanding patterns and relationships. In this way, you will see God as the creative power of life. When I asked that you love one another, I was not just giving you a recipe for human fellowship. This is the doorway to life eternal.” (The Keys of Jeshua – Glenda Green)
I may have quoted this in another thread but the key I emphasis is the psychic emotional field of perception and response.
Does the external condition determine your response or do you in effect give that power to conditions by the labels and definitions of your past experience?
Those who seek control believe they must, or need to, or should.
But belief is not set as Reality, so much as a setting by which our reality-experience changes.
Changing OTHER people’s beliefs to comply with a monopolar ‘reality’ is the imprint of a god of fear, given power. Is there a New Story to live from that does not demonise, deny and destroy what we have lived before?
“In the presence of hatred and fear, negative and resistant strains of bacteria are more likely.”
It would be nice if those negative strains can direct themselves (given a nudge here and there if possible) towards the source of hatred and towards the promoters of divisiveness, would it?
Given the hysteria that emanates from almost everywhere including the offgrauniad, I merely wonder how many readers of this august daily would be spared should that be the case.
Yes. I wonder sometimes how many reflect on the humour of that.
Charity is the capacity to gift the appreciation for another without requiring their current sense of themselves to meet or match the measure of the giving.
The binary sense of retribution or of ‘escaping it’ (onto others) is without any concept of the integrative power of love. I feel the biological (and universal) support for life gives example of this if we stop projecting our own fear and control mind onto it.
I could have just said projected our thinking onto it – but few recognise fear and control as the framing of thought that self-reinforces its adaptation within such a frame – as defence against loss of self. The grace of noticing is catching ourselves in act – from an open curiosity of recognition, instead of coming down in judgement as the post-process of a masking narrative control.
We have to learn by mistakes. Not everyone who has fear will protect it and not everyone who thinks to be immune from such fear will have uncovered their blind spots or achilles heel. But the noticing of fear reaction is the alert to be curious! Rather than activate maximal defences that then encapsulate the fear to ‘otherness’ and target for attack.
Consider the creative matrix of life patterning in which each gives from a unique perspective to others and the whole, and receives as of like kind.
If you bartered or exchanged a chicken for a chicken – there would be no basis for the collective expression of one movement to create as infinite or biodiverse.
Fear of pain of loss is the source of self-justifed and directed hatred – not the trapped narrative persona driven by such a mind of the attempt to dump its on someone or something else.
But you are still false flagging virus or biology as a weapon of war and the loveless or hateful abuse of the body is the ‘presence of the distortion of love that is experienced as hatred and fear’. If you want an undistorted and aligned immunity – notice where you attack your wholeness and invite another way of seeing.
Social engineering works ‘a nudge here and there’ and is largely used to induce the unwary to buy products, enter into dependencies, condition to external regulatory limitations and controls, and weaken and toxify themselves to become a source of profit or power via whatever means can capture the mindshare as a botnet of captured revenue stream, proxy identity for narrative control, cannon fodder, lab rat or of course ‘human virus’ to be culled.
All these things exhibit the fear (self-isolating) control (power-seeking) mindset.
If you don’t think that is already a terrible price to pay, consider seeing the evils that you become complicit in as a sense of powerless self-betrayal.
Do you know the measure of love?
There is no measure of love but your own setting of terms and conditions.
Just as anything contextual can be background and taken for granted, and so not given due appreciation and honour – so it is that ‘you don’t know what you got ’til it’s gone’ and are driven to seek to regain, restore, get back to or get payback. This sense of lack is driven by fear and grievance that actively ‘self-reinforce’. For no matter what is stuffed into the hole it can never become whole.
Wholeness is not in our imaged form, but in our being, as all parts operating together.
Divide and rule is trapped awareness in imaged forms of invested judgements made ‘real’ to us by acting or reacting from them.
Leonard Cohen had a songline that went, “when hatred with his package comes… You forbid… delivery”.
If you do not receive hate by enacting your own version upon yourself, then it remains with the sender unopened – and this serves the growing awareness of the tightness of the mask.
But in ANY case – thought never actually leaves the mind of its thinker. Others may choose to align in their own resonance, but that is their freedom as well as their freedom to teach and learn by error and trial. Like wise you never have or could leave the Mind that Thought you.. The gift of creation is not in question, but an imaged symbol taken as a self-isolating self-specialness, is the result of questioning or doubting Who and What we Are – and initiating a rollercoaster ride where one part demands unfettered movement and the other screams on the breaks!
Breaking out of binary thinking is like the Yin-Yang symbol. Find the opposite polarity in what seems Other or Negative – and do not pretend or hide the same in ourself – but in conscious awareness align in the movement that most represents a wholeness of self in terms you can accept, appreciate and understand. You do know who you are – but our human polarity means we often arrive through the experience of who or what we are NOT.
Break the addiction by no longer protecting it as a source of security and control – while opening contexts of support for change that truly supports you – rather than your fears.
My spouse tells me that so many people are not taking this virus seriously in that they are …still venturing outside. I made a vague gesture towards disputing the virus story but pulled back and just noted that people eventually will not be able to stay inside. There will inevitably come a time when these extreme “precautions” will make life impossible. What happens then?
I find myself increasingly in the position that, for the sake of loved ones, I have to hold my tongue and go along with the virus script.
[typo corrected. A2]
“people are not talking” should be “people are not taking”. My Lovecraftian terror continues to make typing difficult.
Not to worry George.
A situation I’d imagine many face right now. My way of dealing with it, is taking reasonable precautions while educating myself with the science (not just government science) on CV, e.g. possible transmission routes, adequacy or not of testing, and keeping a close eye on the statistics here and elsewhere. That way, when someone comes out with something plain wrong or there is emotion or ignorance talking you can set the record straight and possibly provide reassurance.
Peter Hitchens on his Twitter is quite right in response to ‘ leave it to the government scientists’ brigade. When some scientists disagree widely as they do on this, the public have a duty to assess the evidence. In the same way as a judge who is not an expert on a subject but is capable of assessing expert evidence and make a judgement. Leaving things to the experts is not wise for many reasons, not least it encourages lazy thinking.
“not just government science”
loverat. Government “science” is propaganda. Trust only the facts and independent opinion.
And don’t believe ANY predictions about future numbers. View it as fortune telling, because that is in effect what it is.
That is generally the case. You still have to look at all evidence and views though. If you assume everything is unreliable from one source and don’t at least study what they’re saying the danger is you eventually end up with the confirmation bias which is so prevalent among people who dont look at independent sources. Plus you need to understand what these sources are saying in order to refute them.
Good point. And here’s another: please note how governments in the West are ignoring credentialed experts, such as Didier Raoult and Wolfgang Wodarg, who dispute the narrative. Next, they’ll be banned on social media.
I’m actually surprised the Wolfgang Wodarg clip is still up on YouTube. Think it had 1.3 million views when I looked at it late last night.
Experts should be on tap, but not on top.
“I find myself increasingly in the position that, for the sake of loved ones, I have to hold my tongue and go along with the virus script.”
You lost me there.
Hi Sharon, I think that what George is saying, might be that he is
going along with the ‘virus script’ in order that he ‘doesn’t frighten the horses’.
I’ts a colloquial thang.
Well it’s like this: internally I’m going over all the stuff that websites like OffG are telling me about how dubious this pandemic is and I feel like exploding over how much bollocks we are being fed. But that would stress out the ones around me who are already stressed enough. So I just nod with the “Oh I hope they find a cure soon” stuff.
I will be livid if we are prevented from going out. The only thing keeping me sane at the moment is taking my dog for a walk and talking to other dog walkers, I don’t feel the least bit threatened, except by loons wearing masks.
Me, too. In fact just about to go out now…lovely day, and one advantage of the current climate is that the previously constant drone of traffic from the nearby A road in my suburban area just outside Chester has diminished to almost nothing. Heaven! Grateful for small mercies. But, for the sake of society, I hope the traffic noise returns soon.
West London has a persistent East wind which usually means hundreds of planes a day roaring over our heads but this time air traffic is almost non existent. It’s lovely. (Yes, hundreds a day already. The local MP Shameless Sharma says local residents would ‘welcome’ another 700 a day (!) if the airport was expanded because they’d rather have new jobs than peace and quiet).
Nowhere near Runcorn I hope Judy!😝
No, the North Wales side, a place called Hawarden (near Mold)…so if anyone sees me there walking my border collie do stop and say ‘hello’, at a distance of course. 😀 Wouldn’t want to get arrested!
Okay, North Wales is lovely, and very pleased you’re nowhere near, er, Runcorn!
I know it has, um, a reputation, and an old heavily industrial area that’s fallen on tough times as has a great deal of the North.
Thanks to Thatcher and her vile protege; that alleged Catholic.
Confession Judy: I often go on British football blogs, so often read + see photos of places like Runcorn, Whitchurch, Chester, Connahs Quay (not far from you). The writers often include history of the towns, photos, etc.
To get back on topic – what’s the latest news on the UK viz the Coronavirus? Are you all going into lockdown or a partial one? Are there many dissenters in your area to what the Govt is doing?
Re you’re last para, Gezzah, we are still awaiting the latest official pronouncement on the current containment measures – currently theatres, cinemas, pubs, cafes, restaurants, gyms, sports facilities and venues all obliged to remain closed until further notice; people obliged to keep 6 feet apart (social distancing) and advised not to travel unless they have to. Businesses asked to ensure social distancing for their staff etc etc Self-isolation for two weeks if you have ‘a sniff’ etc…and for anyone who’s been in contact with you.
Because large numbers of people took advantage of the good weather, and maybe anticipating that they might be incarcerated by law in the coming days, there were reports at the weekend of people failing to respect social distancing in public places. Of course that has conveniently led to threats that the Govt may well have to forbid any outside activities. Not sure to what extent that might impact on solitary people like me. I don’t think my collie would be very happy! But some public park areas have already voluntarily closed.
And then, of course, there is the issue of social distancing in relation to commuters……
As far as dissent is concerned, everyone I have encountered or seen is being very compliant with regard to social distancing. But how many actually think it is over the top and unnecessary is difficult to judge. My neighbours are all for it “as it will save lives”. I have had to curb my natural facetiousness…I just nod.
Walking towards anyone, most people mutually but self-consciously perform what I would call the ‘arc’ movement! I think most of them probably do think it serves a purpose. I do it as well simply because I don’t want to get into any arguments! I did talk to one lady on my dog walk at the weekend who made a comment suggesting she was sceptical and was well informed about the statistics. I took the opportunity to say what I thought and she became extremely animated in agreement. I referred her to this website.
….forgot to include all schools and colleges closed as from today. Wonder how long parents will tolerate being locked up with their kids for. Some grandparents are probably grateful for the legitimate excuse to have some peace and quiet! 🙂
Yeah, it’s the same here in Melbourne, all non essential business to be closed, tho oddly cafes can stay open for takeaway coffee and food. Pretty similar to the UK it seems.
A special 5000 strong police task force set up in Victoria to enforce self isolation and business closure’s. Prime Minister Morrison to announce more ‘draconian laws’ in the next couple of days – but at this point I am trying to avoid all mainstream media.
Exposure to them makes me feel sick.
And, in the last week, I’ve only met one person who thought this was an over the top response: a man, about 70, originally from France, been in Melbourne 30 yrs… he straight out said all this was going to be covering up the economic collapse that’s coming, ie, distraction. I could imagine him being in the Gilets Jaunes actually, cheers J.
a reduced [ by vaccine caused real pandemic] and well trained in compliance population will demurely go back to work, in ways fitting their status.
ireland will get gold stars!
and then the vaccine will create the real pandemic and ”anti” vaxxers will be blamed. ..end result : reduced pp/controlled pop/quite slaves/ and me in a dissident camp if i survive pitch forks.
I’m from Ireland and its sickening my hole.
I feel your exasperation. We walk around in a soupy fog of 9/11 believers and the like already. I’ve learned to keep relatively quiet, and wear a wooly hat over the tinfoil one.
There is an excellent article by Peter Hitchens in the Mail on Sunday today. Somebody with some sense.
If Hitchens had that much sense he wouldn’t be working for the Mail on Sunday. Maybe he is on the level with this piece but I suspect he is playing the role of ‘outlier’ for the mainstream media, helping to set the ‘limits’ of debate and to put some distance between the right-wing and this lockdown so they can blame the socialists in future.
But at least he is making the points which need to be made and broadcast.
To be frank, I personally wouldn’t care who is nominally held responsible in the future for this fiasco as long as someone is. The worst case scenario is that it carries on unchallenged and our lives are changed unrecognisably forever. Please let someone be ultimately ‘blamed’ no matter who it is.
My comment sounds rather as if I’m saying I don’t care if those responsible for leading us down this garden path aren’t held to account. On reflection, you would need to know what was going through my head to understand my perspective! I do very much want all those behind this ridiculous over-reaction to normal events to be charged with malfeasance at the very least.
The point I was aiming to make is quite simple: if we get to the position of a ‘blame game’ we know that we’ve at least come out the other side identifying that there have been catastrophic errors of judgement at the very least, hopefully with little more damage to people’s lives than will have already happened to date (although I’m not optimistic of this). That should be the first aim, followed up with identifying culpability.
If there is no ‘blame game’ that would affirm that everyone has gone along with, and accepted as necessary, ‘containment’ measures instituted to date and any forthcoming measures. That is a very frightening and disturbing prospect.
Hope I’ve made my position clear!
Step right up, then, Judy.
I’m recusing myself from culpability, if I may.
He hates the Tories.
Keep an eye on Hitchens and see if he gets into the whole issue of covid-19 deaths being deaths by other causes.
The good thing about the powers-that-be having to deploy a gate keeper is that it does extend the territory of contraversy to encompass more hearers. It is a reaction to the counter initiative.
If you read his Twitter account today he is swatting away with ease. It’s worth reading his account if only for the entertainment value. Today, he is locking horns with John Sweeney – the journalist who refers to UK journalists who write for Sputnik as ‘traitors’. He looks mentally ill – or possibly drunk.
I wonder if Peter Hitchens could be persuaded to write or post here. That would be interesting.
No, that would be counter-productive. He’s better off at the Daily Mail, where he can reach a much, much larger audience. I mean no offense to Kit, Catte & The Gang here at Off-Graun, who are doing a fantastic job. But the sad fact remains that Hitchens’ other MSM colleagues would just use it as another argument against him, were he to start posting stuff at an alt-media website like ours. Sad, but true.
It may be tough to acknowledge it, Thom, but the Daily Mail often raises issues that The Guard ignores. The brainwashing of the middle class is far more thorough as they are functionaries in the system.
I’ve noticed this with the MOS over the years since 9/11
I’ve noticed ‘leaks’ of actual news in D Mail online before. Probably more in the field of medical malfeasance – but that may be where I’ve looked and found.
Such anomalies may be a token gesture of willingness to not totally comply – or it could be accepted that some open leaking is necessary to managing the Theme Park.
They are often not made obvious and on occasion haven’t been re-findable just from the site menu.
I did not find Hitchens by just looking on on site and so I ducked the search terms to land the article.
He is raising issues of human rights amidst a pack of guard dogs.
But still under the ‘plea’ to power rather than a forthright witness for them.
No blaming in that.
You can disagree with Hitchens about whatever, but he will debate the point.
The closing down of debate to mandated narrative from globalist ‘experts’ backed by celebrity opinion leaders is a terrible thing to witness being given active support. But it isn’t calling outright violence against non-compliance. But that can so easily follow once fellow human beings are officially reduced to ‘viruses’ or ‘ hateful killers of the vulnerable’.
It may surprise you to learn that Peter Hitchens (unlike his late brother, Christopher) has also been very perceptive on a number of foreign policy questions–such as Russia and Syria–through the years. Mind, I’m not saying that he’s a 100% on all issues. I’m just saying that for someone in the MSM, he’s remarkably independent minded.
Point taken but I wasn’t quite suggesting Peter Hitchens takes a position on the board of Of G and is enticed away from Mail on Sunday. That would most probably be too intolerable for all concerned.
Definitely agree – I have found myself agreeing with him on most things. One exception being when he said he would not shut the BBC and words to the effect, MSM were ‘better than nothing’. He’s behind the curve a little on Syria but more than makes up for this in his combative style and reasoning. I really would love to meet him – but that would be a bit scary!
at this point the daily mail is better than the guardian, or the independent.
Nothing real in response to what he said then?
He is almost a lone public voice in challenging this narrative openly.
Why infect everything with fear?
Is there a human perspective that isnt about dumping blame?
Doesn’t it perturb anyone that this bill was knocked together very, very quickly, yet it has the appearance of having been already made ready: i.e. it’s quite long and I know from the time I’ve spent writing proposals writing, review, re-writing, that it would have to be (as Craig Murray has pointed with respect to other similar items) passed through many departments to gain their assent and amendments before it could be put before Parliament?
Like the Patriot Act you mean? Sans the weaponised anthrax.
It will not have been written in Whitehall, it will have been written by the lobby firms of billionaire clients.
Well there are those afraid of the virus, and those who are afraid of Force Majeure operating under trojan ploy. And those who feel the fear of the body – or their mortality – as part of an ongoing integration of being.
I suggest not reacting from the fear in any significant decisions or actions. Abide in willingness to move in alignment with the true of your being.
if the whole country is self isolating ( because any symptoms of flu, cold, hay fever could be the virus so best stay home so as not to spread it) then surely staff numbers are down for key services – hospitals, burials etc and so even if there are no excess cases of flu complications or deaths, the system would still appear stretched/ overwhelmed/ backlogged?
How do figures for this years recorded deaths compare to the same 6 month period over the last three years? Is it possible that the anomaly is that so many people are off work self isolating – thus effecting medical supply chains and hands on care – that its hard to establish if overall death numbers are substantially higher than previous years? So we’re in a perfect storm where concern over a virus has now created a feedback loop that no longer has anything to with the lethality of the virus?
I think it’s just that NHS shortages are not generally that newsworthy.
Blubber The ONS produces figures on deaths. For the week ending the 6th of March (the latest available when I looked), the number of registered deaths in England and Wales was lower than the average for the previous five years for the corresponding week. https://viewsandstories.blogspot.com/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-and-fear-mongering.html
I’m very happy if it will reduce the spread of the virus !
But I am very worried that you inform us that funeral directors are :
“a profession that requires no specific training or certification”
Although this doesn’t surprise me . Sadly my mother-in-law was put in a non silk-lined coffin even though we had specified no expense be spared!
As you can imagine this caused a lot of additional stress at the time.
Boris Johnson has mutated from a salivating ‘kill 1 million Iraqis because the Yanks told us to support them’ automaton into the greatest, most compassionate Florence Nightingale figure on earth?
This is a long shot but…you don’t suppose that deaths from the virus is what they have in mind here?
Perhaps I should have rephrased that: I don’t think the virus is what they have in mind.
The way the ‘alt’ counter-argument has been framed is that 1) it is non lethal; 2) it’s not as bad as flu; 3) the death figures are wrong/manufactured. We have this dichotomy firmly fixed in our heads. Should there be an ‘outbreak’ of real deaths, it will be taken as, yes, the ‘virus’ really exists and is a killer – no further proof needed. Hence, the Governments were right, really care and are doing their best for us. We will need new ‘leaders of the people’ to see us through this awful time – a war time leader, in fact. They are in the wings in both the UK and the US.
So, in answer to your question – yes. ‘Something’ will begin to kill us off soon and, conveniently (and to strangely stop the panic) we have a name for it in advance.
“we have a name for it in advance.”
– formerly, aka: ‘suicided’…
…or if you prefer your fascist dytopia with a *latin* flavour: ‘disapeared’…
– from now on, then, we are to have: ‘covided’.
What I think in general terms about this whole scenario is that we have a bunch of folks who wantonly abrogated their responsibility to do due diligence on ‘intelligence’ over the Iraq war, the result of which was 1 million innocent and entirely avoidable deaths (making them guilty of conspiracy to murder), seem to suddenly think that they can play god on a whole society, having previously proven that they were worthy of being hung without trial, had I been a successful leader of a coup d’etat in 2003/4 ,at which point I would have of course decided that hanging without trial for 500+ MPs who conspired to ommit genocide was an entirely appropriate course of action.
You know: rid the world of 500 who killed 1 million.
Called a ‘multiplier effect’, I believe.
I’m waiting for the news headline: Ok Everyone’s Dead Now Yet People are Still Dying. How is this possible? We asked scientist Neil DeGras Tyson who gave us all the answers. In short, his explanation was that we’re just not as smart as he is to understand this infinite death occurring phenomena. Furthermore, je ads the law of energy comservation renders these dead people unknowable.
“covid kills 15 trillion – film at 11!”