Thank-you to all our readers and supporters
A brief pause this Easter Monday to say thank-you to everyone who has been supporting us through these weeks, through donations and just through reading and sharing our output.
It has not been an easy time. We’ve been attacked, sometimes in pretty unscrupulous ways, by some we used to call friends and colleagues. And to begin with our sceptical and fact-based stance was very much a minority position. We seemed to be fighting a pretty lonely battle for a while.
Thankfully, this is changing as the evidence has accumulated and more people are seeing reason to be both questioning of the official covid19 narrative and of the massive authoritarian roll out it is intended to justify.
But without you guys it would have been difficult, if not impossible, to keep doing this. Your readership has helped get our work out there to reach people, and your generosity and support has helped us pay OFfG’s bills for another year at a time when we would have been struggling to find the resources otherwise.
We know some of you must be finding things hard too, and yet you still dug in and gave us some pounds/dollars of your hard-earned money.
That’s amazing.
You are all amazing.
Bless you.
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Thank you OffG for your steady stance and voices of reason in the muddied seas of misinformation. All the best to you all and all those who visit this island of rationality to query and escape the onslaught of MSM. When I am in a position to be able to offer a donation I will be glad to do so. It seams that attacks on free thought are growing and it is a sad reflection of what is happening that rationality and reason are treated as an enemy.
This site has been a light in the darkness. I’m truly grateful for your work. Sane people writing meaningful texts, valuable comments from an intelligent readership all over the world.
Ich bedanke mich herzlich und gruesse Sie mit vorzueglicher Hochachtung.
Rechenmacher
The childish and rather pitiful reaction to the COVID-19 pandemic by some of the ‘progressive’ alternative media outlets who ought to know better (eg, Off Guardian), has shown itself to be so stubborn and stupidly obtuse in refusing even to see facts let alone regard them as ‘sacred’, that this deserves attention, exploration and explanation. First, let’s examine some of the howling inconsistencies in the politics surrounding the ‘COVID-19-is-a-hoax’ tommyrot (for brevity hereafter referred to as ‘the tommyrot thesis’): 1. Why on earth would the capitalists suddenly stop all their production and profit flows in order to lock up the very people they already effectively enslave and exploit, who to produce the rulers’ fabulous wealth willingly produce all their goods and services? Has there been a major workers’ uprising or attempted revolution somewhere that the capitalists are trying to suppress that we don’t know about? Where is it happening? When… Read more »
1. Important question. There’s no way we can answer it definitively though, because, in my view, the shutdown makes no sense even as a protective measure. A partial explanation for the draconian measures is the moribund global economy that can only be reinvigorated by a total reset / managed collapse (I assert). If that reset occurs without a suitable scapegoat (e.g. covid-19), the Powers That Be risk too many unintended consequences that would flow from popular anger blaming them for incompetence. The shutdown precipitates what was going to happen anyway, but affords them perhaps sufficient control of events to stay in the driving seat. As for calls to get the shutdown lifted, they are going to increase as the economy suffers more and more, that’s to be expected. The proof will be how damaged the economy is once the shutdowns are lifted and whether or not a severe depression ensues,… Read more »
Protection? If it’s protection from a potentially deadly and highly contagious virus with no cure or vaccine, then quarantine is the only responsible counter-measure. The problem is that most, especially younger people living in first-world countries, have never experienced a quarantine. The closest some (not so young) in the first world may have come to experiencing one would be the ‘draconian’ measures taken against HIV transmission, when bathhouses in gay districts were shut down in the 1980s and all manner of changes to sexual mores were strongly advocated and some enforced (eg, brothel patrons forced to wear condoms). In Asia, on the other hand, populations are used to quarantines (eg, Singapore) and they’ve been somehow been freed after the outbreak passed. As is occurring in China today. It’s now known that the virus responsible for COVID-19: (i) is highly contagious for 2-3 days before symptoms appear and for up to… Read more »
The data on which you base your analysis is unreliable. This makes your analysis equally unreliable. Doctors, one a US Senator, are saying they are being asked to falsify death certificates. German doctors have drawn attention to similar shenanigans in Germany. I understand there are potential whistleblowers within the NHS afraid to speak out. There was a recent study in Germany by Professor Püschel that involved the autopsy of 35 bodies claimed by death certificates to have died of covid-19. The results showed that not one of them died of covid-19. A quote from Professor Püschel: This virus exerts a totally overblown influence on our lives. This influence is not proportional the actual danger represented by the virus. And the catastrophic economical damage happening right now is in no way justified by the danger represented by the virus. I am convinced that the mortality of covid-19 will not even be… Read more »
First, you can’t discount what’s going on all round the world based on anecdote, hearsay, one autopsy study of 35 decedents or the opinion of one academic with side issues.
Second, yes conspiracies exist, but none have ever occurred, nor are achievable, on the grand scale alleged by all the children infected by the ‘COVID-19 derangement syndrome’.
“Occam’s razor tells us that the simpler explanation of COVID-19 being real explains far more than the unfalsifiable and increasingly elaborate, childish, and desperate occult motives now being bandied about ever could.” Occam’s razor is less ambitious than that. Occam’s razor tells us (assuming acceptance of your analysis so far) that the ‘official narrative thesis’ is the best candidate (vis-a-vis the ‘tommyrot thesis’) for directing initial, limited resources towards the (considerable) further effort required to formulate either thesis as a falsifiable (specifically predictive) hypothesis (which has, clearly, not yet been done). In itself, Occam’s razor tells us nothing about the validity of either thesis. Only failing to falsify the falsifiable predictions of one or both theses when a corresponding valid hypothesis has been formulated for one or both will inch that one or the other or both closer to being valid. It can happen that the one of two (or… Read more »
Sorry, you’re absolutely right. I shouldn’t have been so sloppy.
Guys I am sorry for the ignorance. And feel free to point me in the right direction but I never know what to think when it comes to the Mr Trump, is he one of the good guys or one of the bad guys? The MSM enjoy slaughtering him, but I must say I struggle to find anything that makes him one of the good guys.
Trump is Trump’s guy.
And he’s not Hillary! Got to be a plus. 😀
Will
Where to begin…!
As you can imagine everyone has their own opinion of him and he is so unpredictable (either by his own making or being manipulated by others, who knows?) it is difficult to bracket him as either ‘good’ or ‘bad’.
But you might like to see this OffG article from February this year about Trump, his tenure and his opponents and read the reader comments below it to get a broad idea of opinions.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/02/23/the-devils-comb-over/
Trump is Trump. Quite possibly, a real human. Like him-hate him-he’s still Trump. He is knowable. It won’t get any better than this. ‘They’ will never let it happen again.
“Quite possibly, a real human.”
This. But only possibly 😉
Hope, I believe , is ones admitting their powerlessness, and then lazily attaching to warm and fuzzy wishes. Politicians like that word. They know it relaxes us and makes us feel empowered while napping.
Optimism, I find, employs our inherent powers of visualization which cut through the crust of reality to see optimistic possibilities. Sadly, we seem to be in a world run by psychopaths who are in conflict with them selves and we are irrelevant other than to pay for their convoluted exploits.
I don’t agree with Trump on many things, but he hasn’t changed. That is amazing to me. So…what is a ‘Real Human?’ It could be that the value of being one’s self is the greatest contribution we can make here. Just being real. Trump seems to be that. This makes me optimistic.I have no problem if I am wrong. I’m optimistic.
I’m an eternal optimist, Axis..it’s funny because I’m also very grumpy 😀
I also agree about Trump. (insert obligatory “I’m no fan, but…” ) I get slated for it regularly…
“‘They’ will never let it happen again.”
You got that right. They’re going to try hard to never let *anything* happen again
You guys are courageous and essential. Thanks for all you do! You have become a “go to” place in a world a swirl with fake new, hysteria and dodgy agendas
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing what you do, Off-G. Your hard work is more important now than ever. Keep fighting the good fight!
Peace and love,
Gwyn.
Lol.
And the sheep bleated and ran from the sheepdog thinking they had cleverly outfoxed their hunter.
And went exactly where the Shepherd wanted.
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Have a good year Off-G and hope that you can use sime of the funds in installing a better commentor database and other improvements on content and layout. Things can always be improved.
I thought you were done groanin’ . . . or perhaps I should take your “lol” as good-humoured…? In any case, sheep going where the shepherd wanted is generally considered to be a good thing – for the sheep – and always assuming we’re talking about a “good shepherd” of course. But since we are not sheep here, and I personally find sentimentality repelling, one might consider what is being said in the current context to be a sincere expression of solidarity amongst people who clearly prefer cold truth to warm, fuzzy falsehood and who know what they are talking about. Relaxing enough to spend a little time expressing heartfelt support does not have to entail switching off one’s critical faculties. It’s not an either/or thing.
Have a good year too, Dun.
Thanks to the off-Guardian also, for all their good work. For not only do we have a political system in which worldwide few can get politicians whom they feel actually represent them, the ones we have are tending to be ever more threatening of what remains of our free speech. And the off-G appears to be one of the very few places where anyone is still allowed to have much of that, and this virus crisis has shown more than ever how desperately such lacunae of freedom and reason are needed. Though I don’t agree with everything that David Icke says (as the world’s best known conspiracy theorist) what he did say that I think was right, it it’s not the people who all think and act the same who change the world (for better or worse bear in mind) but those who dare to think and act differently. Which… Read more »
We are the few thinkers left!
I’d still allow for the probability that there are countless excellent thinkers out there who have never heard of OffG. After all, it is not reported in the media too much, is it? : ) I certainly came upon it purely by accident myself (or perhaps karma?).
Thank you, Off-Guardian! We need sites like this more than ever… A while back, I drew attention to a report in a German newspaper about medical lawyer Beate Bahner attempting to try the BRD for violating. Germany’s constitution. Here’s an excerpt (translation): The shutdown will have devastating consequences and is not in accordance with Germany’s infection protection law, according to Beate Bahner, lawyer. She has announced her intention to challenge the Corona regulations at the Federal Constitutional Court. The well-known specialist in medical law from Heidelberg, Beate Bahner, has announced her intention to conduct a judicial review of Baden Württemberg’s Corona regulations. She wrote a press report (3 April 2020) stating, “Federal and state government measures are blatantly unconstitutional. They violate several of Germany’s basic citizen rights at an unprecedented scale”. Furthermore, she states that “This applies to all Corona regulations of Germany’s 16 federal states. In particular, the measures… Read more »
Very dangerous times. The new Corona laws in the UK now makes it possible for only one doctor (where previously it was two, in agreement) to ‘section’ a person under the Mental Health Act (ie. have them committed to a psychiatric unit, which are secure units, and very likely also forcibly ‘medicated’). A bent doctor, one acting under the influence of a government agency for example, and your freedom (or what passes for freedom) can be taken away just like that.
Happily, there appears to have been some Chinese whispers involved in the creation of the article I excerpted from above. It seems Beate Bahner is not undergoing psychiatric treatment, she recently announced her withdrawal from public activity to recover her equilibrium. Prior to announcing this temporary retreat, she issued a satirical set of ‘new laws’ that are the inverse of the Shutdown Laws, which include articles such as these: Spending time in public spaces with fewer than two persons is only permissible in exceptional circumstances. In consideration of the rights of way of our fellow citizens, the distance between persons is to be kept to an absolute minimum. Being alone in public spaces without any company is only permitted for valid reasons, such as an individual’s need for peace and quiet. Other reasons are to be given in writing as required. It is here decreed that driving and holidaying at… Read more »
This is both embarrassing and troubling, but things are moving so fast and I’m juggling personal and professional duties from moment to moment… My original comment is in fact correct. Apologies for this back and forth!!
This is from the Rhein-Neckar Zeitung (RNZ):
Sad and grave times for Germany and the world! My thoughts go out to Beate Bahner, her friends and her loved ones.
She’s probably a shill. All a bit too obvious and overburdened.
Thank you very much Off Guardian! Your website and articles have been a beacon of light in these pan-demonic times. We’ve just been locked up, 1.3 billion of us, in India for an additional 19 days after 21 days of brutal lockdown. I’ve pointed many to your website and you have a small “following” here in rural south India. Keep up the brave work!
And I make things worse in India the police only allow certain chosen people to go get necessities! Caste system still alive and well in India
I can’t thank you enough for being the voice of rational reason and a guiding light of the fundamental practices of journalism.
Off Guardian:
Where REAL journalism happens.
Truly appreciate everything you have done on this Covid19 story, and all the other stories you’ve published OffG.
Have only been coming here 1.5 years or so, but this site here, right now, is one of the few remaining sane rational hangouts on the Internet. Thru these articles, have discovered other sites and blogs I never knew about (like wrenchinthegears)
Thank you for being here✌️
No. Thank You Off Guardian.
I’ve been a long time reader, but only occasional commenter. Maybe it’s the isolation, the insanity of events (or my own), but commenting here right now is highly cathartic.
On top of that, I must applaud your cadence of high quality articles.
Also, I must thank the excellent commenters here. It’s like being stuck together virtually on an island that makes less sense than the one in Lost.
Thank you OffG, you’re reporting during this time is keeping me sane.
Pretty well exactly what I feel
Also reminds me of what sanity actually is.
Crisis Actress
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213971/Woman-caught-coronavirus-despite-self-isolating-believes-passed-bag-groceries.html
https://twitter.com/rachel_brummert?lang=en
http://rachelbrummert.com/media/
To feature Rachel in a media story, please contact her at [email protected]
In the movie The Eagle has landed Churchill had a doppelganger ( a crisis actor?) which begs the question as to whether Johnson ( who thinks he’s Churchill – he’s but not fat enough ) had a Doppelganger ( crisis actor) as a decoy to the virus?
You know the problem with inveterate liars is that when they are actually telling the truth – no one believes them Mr Aaronovitch.
There’s a book to be written about that:
” Truths that Amazingly really were Truths! ”
Or one of those Top Twenty things you never knew about on on Youtube.
Did you know that wearing a gaudy and loud cardigan or jumper formerly worn by ex Tory Whip Gyles Brandreth really does keep Covid at Bay.
You live and learn.
Particularly from the BBC output.
Sometimes I think Jackanory has been revived – particularly 24 hour news.
BoJo hasn’t yet matched the EVIL Churchill wreaked in India, but then he’s just beginning his UGLY reign of HUBRIS.
Dinkum I see you pissed off the Churchill fans! Good he was a evil bastard who hated his own people and preferred being half french and half American a lot more than he actively liked English people
This is important, and blatant. Thanks for spotting this fraudster. This woman claimed to have been sexually assaulted while making a film on that topic last year. She created a career out of a terrible drug reaction several years ago, which seems to have led to a job as writer for the US Food and Drug Administration. Now she claims to have gotten COVID from her grocery bag. She’s available for interviews, she tells us.
Sounds dangerously unhinged.
Or, what used to be known as “a dishonest person”…
Quarantine her. It might be catching.
Crisis actors have been exposed before, paid for and employed by the government.
If my wife can find out what she is in two clicks, you’d think a squad of journalists in the UK and US would have. How much exposure has this shill had in the media…
Are you a shill too?
I was joking, Jay. I could not be further away from being a shill, and of course the main point of your comment is quite true. By saying, “Quarantine her”, I was precisely supporting what you say by indicating what the media should have done with her, instead of giving her their stamp of approval – as well as the time of day. Don’t be too ready to accuse. There are not many OffG readers and regular commenters here who would be daft enough to expect to get away with shilling. We are here to expose that, but not to try and find it where it is least likely to exist. That said, many have mentioned how easy it is to misunderstand text when there is no facial expression or personal familiarity with the writer to go along with it. We all have to do our best to cope in… Read more »
MoA mentioned the following yesterday ‘Off-Guardian creates an army of strawmen. Then launches a war against them. Why are some respected alt-media embracing a permanent police state? Is anyone aware of any alt-media which are doing what Off-Guardian alleges? I haven’t seen any.’ Since I didn’t see the strawman, I decided to plough through the comments and see if I had missed something. Of the first 150 comments that I went through, I found none that showed what type of strawmen OffG had allegedly created to fight a war with. I did find some ad hominems and some strawmen towards offG which I will not repeat here. Lots of statistics too (in the terms of lies, damned lies and statistics). Their stronghold, it appeared to me, is that in the absence of evidence you should impose martial law (never mind Sweden, Germany, and the fact that the moment Spring sets… Read more »
We should, however, take into account the scenario where the virus is not the crisis at all, but the excuse behind which the real crisis – Deliberate, Greed-Engendered World Banking Crisis, Mk II – is hiding, until it has no alternative but to come out into the daylight for air. And when that happens, we must not be shy about naming names, and shaming them out of a job, because what they have done, and are now doing, is nothing less criminal or treasonous than sabotaging civilization. While some of us can still recognize intelligence and decency, we have to pave the way for those qualities to regain their logical status as the basic requirements for any person wanting to be considered worthy of calling themselves representatives of a nation. The bumpkins and halfwits currently governing us, dullards who fancy themselves as “alpha males” or suffer from some other such… Read more »
Agree with everything that has been said. This site has been an oasis of rational and critical thought among a desert of hysteria and manipulation. Well done.
I can’t thank you enough for your diligent reporting of the truth.
So many posts to give the thumbs up to here 🙂
Just gave you a thumbs-up Reg.
Thanks, Off-G. Love you guys.
Thanx you guys. Will go back to monthly donation. Can spare a couple of quid now. It means a lot having the OG. Up until recently I still went the very odd time to the Guardian. Cannot bear it now, it’s a singularly unpleasant experience.
Agree! The Guardian that is.
An average day…nearly boxing with a covid clown lecturing me in Farmfoods, class. I was going in to my local Farmfoods and was holding the door for a man just behind me. He declined and was waiting the approved 2m. I said something like: “it’s fine if you don’t believe this crap, I don’t”. He didn’t seem too pleased and proceeded to lecture me on my “irresponsibility”. I replied that I didn’t believe the “hype”. The clown got more upset and accused me of being a “conspiracy theorist”, I told Him I expect He’d believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. The smart arse said He didn’t, I replied “sure you didn’t”. He then hissed at me, “I have just came in to my shopping”. I replied, “so have I, but don’t expect me to believe all the lies”. He was going redder in the face and he started… Read more »
so if the government orders us to implant a mark on our hand or forehead that would enable us to buy an sell, we should do so…?
good catch.
for those who would like to try this argument for themselves, here’s the reference:
Really makes you wonder about the brazenness of some of the corruption in our midst… It’s as if there were a small percentage of human beings – even children – who have such a deep urge to be contrary (Satan = the Resister) that it becomes a defining characteristic of theirs. I mean, imagine going to see Walt Disney’s “Sleeping Beauty”, his full-length feature cartoon from the 1950s… Imagine watching the mesmerizingly evil witch, Maleficent, doing her horrid best against the princess and her prince, and thinking, “Yes! That’s the life for me!” Or maybe reading the Book of Revelation, and thinking, “Hey, what a good idea! Let’s have a society where nobody can buy or sell anything without having a mark on their hand or forehead. I’ll be the one to apply the mark, and I’ll get a fat commission for every specimen I process! I’ll be okay, and… Read more »
If this doesn’t reawaken Christians, nothing will…
Parole may be closing, sources of information are drying up….
2 Thessalonians 2:10 -11
Sorry jay but most western Christians are very bad at being Christians
Gandhi, when asked what he thought of our western religion: “I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians; your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
I too have been wondering about that verse over this past week as various announcements are made as to how post-COVID life will be like. I’m very encouraged I was not alone in the OffG community.
We’ll surely be tracked via our phones, even chipped like dogs and linked to a database showing our COVID immunity status and therefore our rights of access to the rest of the controlled community.
Perhaps now is the time to head off into the wilderness and escape this madness, and evil. It may be too late already though.
No wildernesses left, I’m afraid… All bought and sold. Apart from the worlds we can create in our own souls, we seem to be rather trapped. Yet who would have thought, fifty years ago, that a British person could write such a thing about his society? But I find it most interesting, and very encouraging, that the critical thinking and industrious digging which obviously goes on amongst many of the commenters here at OffG should also lead occasionally into serious contemplation of religious wisdom. I am far from being a religious freak myself, so I would not welcome OffG becoming a Bible study group, but, at least philosophically speaking, perhaps soon we’ll even succeed in reuniting religion and science as the inseparable components of education which they used to be in ancient times. It seems that one of the devil’s favourite tricks is to separate things which are essentially one,… Read more »
“…serious contemplation of religious wisdom. I am far from being a religious freak myself…at least philosophically speaking, perhaps soon we’ll even succeed in reuniting religion and science as the inseparable components of education which they used to be in ancient times..” I see that trend too Wardropper and hope it will continue. Our brightest minds and their biggest and most expensive machines have, just down the road from me, now ground to a halt in their search for the “God Particle” and their “theory of everything”. They don’t know which way to turn now, there’s no way in the foreseeable future that governments will find yet more countless tens of billions to sink into this bottomless research pit with very questionable ROI. It seems that the more we discover, the less we know as to how and why we are here in the first place. I think that ultimately physics… Read more »
Yes indeed. I can’t see “wisdom” ever becoming a popular pursuit among mankind, but I think a great number of people do, nevertheless, privately wonder how and why we are here in the first place.
I am also modestly aware that people are at many different levels of spiritual, moral and intellectual development. It’s just a fact, and it makes perfect sense to me that this should be the case. Learning and creativity could hardly flourish if we were ALL like Buddha and Jesus – or like Atila the Hun and Donald Trump for that matter…
What matters is that people are striving to achieve something which they cannot yet manage. What Nietzsche called the “wretched comfort”, which most people spend their lives trying to acquire, is a great enemy of human development.
Where have you been for the last decade and a half?
That section of The Apocalypse needs to be advertised more widely. I find it impossible any longer not to see the parallels in modern western life. In normal times, I might have thought you were rather hard on the pastor, but today, I’d say he really needs to wake up and take the Scriptures a bit more seriously. You probably saved his soul. Incidentally, it’s not just the wee’uns that like chocolate… I remember being disappointed when I was 13 and, for the first time, didn’t get an Easter Egg from my favourite aunt. Sufficiently disappointed even to mention it to her… Slightly tongue-in-cheek, I teased her and told her I was devastated. She said, “You’re not a bairn any more, what do you want an Easter Egg for?” I replied, “Well, I still like chocolate, don’t I?” She face-palmed, of course. Religious considerations didn’t enter into the matter at… Read more »
As children, we used to roll an egg on Easter Sunday as in rolling away the stone…
‘I was going in to my local Farmfoods and was holding the door for a man just behind me. He declined and was waiting the approved 2m. I said something like: “it’s fine if you don’t believe this crap, I don’t”…’ It seems from your account of the extended interaction that followed that you were prepared to be courteous to him until he showed some sign of not being of your religion, whereupon you delayed his entry into the shop by continuing to hold the door open in order to lecture him on his stupidity, instead of shrugging, letting the door go and entering so he and you both could get on with his shopping and you with yours. Tell me, you aren’t the guy I saw in the deli section are you? The one who saw an orthodox Jew with some matzos in his cart picking up some smoked… Read more »
Certainly can relate to “We’ve been attacked, sometimes in pretty unscrupulous ways, by some we used to call friends and colleagues.”
Those “others” are still asleep and are not ready or unwilling to see truth. It’s too scary. It threatens their belief systems. But your readers are here because we believe in a singular purpose: stand in your truth and do not be afraid to yield that sword of Light.
Beautiful comment and I love your empathy
I’ve been at this for a few decades now (documenting and disseminating information to combat the US corporate government lies) and I must say that as insane as things have been in the past during the days of GHW Bush war crimes and lies, 9/11, WMD’s, Yellow Cake, Avian Flu hysteria, Judith Miller, Gaddafi rape camp lies, White Helmet lies, Swine Flu panic, Chavez as brutal dictator and on and on…this is quantitatively far more insane than any of those other media/government/corporate lies. I am fastidious in steering clear of hyperbole and any sort of emotional appeals. I will break that rule here and say that your reportage here is nothing less than heroic not only in light of the madness surrounding us but also given the immense pressures that are being placed on individuals to conform to the official narrative. Now on to this little tidbit from across the… Read more »
The same thing is happening in the UK. People scared to go to hospital and then dying at home of either their underlying health conditions or heart attack, etc. Death certificate issued without a doctor seeing the body or any autopsy. Death certificate – ‘Coronavirus’. Until about 2 months ago, doctor had to see the body, two doctors to sign death certificate and autopsy performed. Children’s doctors also reporting seeing very ill children (finally) because everyone has been told not to present at Accident and Emergency, not to phone for an ambulance, not to phone 111 and not to bother their General Practitioner.
In addition, anyone dying in a ‘care’ home (older People) is counted as having ‘Coronvirus’. People usually die in these homes anyway because they are very elderly and usually ill with health conditions.
Hi Country Girl I know this is off topic here, but I wanted to respond to you as you raise the matter of care home deaths. I posted a detailed comment on one of the other threads specifically about this matter. Putting it bluntly, Covid-19 is being used as a means to cull elderly and frail people. The social distancing measures have undoubtedly led to residents in care homes becoming confused and isolated, leading to vulnerability and losing the will to live and more prone to infection. No medical staff visit care homes and it is left to care home staff to report, remotely, what they suspect might be coronavirus infection to GPs which could be based on a high temperature reading alone; they might in fact be dealing with a routine and common UTI which could in normal circumstances be sorted out with an antibiotic. Still without any GP… Read more »
Good be why our death rates are looking worse than some countries. I suspect some countries (Scandinavians?) are much more humane to their older persons.
To be fair, didn’t the two doctors thing only come in after Shipman?
Also, you didn’t always need an autopsy. Depended on circumstances. I’d think autopsies relatively unusual actually, unless “foul play” was suspected.
Been an education and a sanctuary to keep on the sane path.
Is there any other mode of payment asides online transactions?
I emailed re this question, Arse. Hoping for bank details, or sending a cheque, or even handing over cash if nearby.
No response yet, but I guess they’re all quite busy. 🙂
Use a prepay credit card if you don’t want Off-Guardian admins to know your real surname is (also) Biscuits, you don’t have or don’t want to use regular credit card/s, you don’t have a VISA or similar stamped debit card or don’t want to use it, or you don’t want to open a PayPal account. Note that prepay cards won’t do recurring payments. Hit the PayPal button at the end of each article. Type in the amount Leave the ‘Make this a monthly donation’ box UNticked (recurring payments need a PayPal account) Hit “Donate with a card“ Fill in the details. Use the ‘name’ printed on the card. ‘Billing address’ details may not be needed. Try it and see. If they insist and you want anonymity, get inventive*. Same with ‘Contact info’ details Leave the ‘save information’ box UNticked Hit ‘Agree and donate now’. *Numerous Internet sites offer free temporary… Read more »
Social Isolation. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4890253/ Snippets: “Isolation involves both the restriction of environmental stimuli and the reduction in the quantity and the quality of stimuli that are psychologically and socially meaningful. Often it is the reduction in social interaction that is the more problematic.” …. “As human beings we rely on social contact to inform our perception of the world, the environment, ourselves and of reality. Social connectedness is a pre-requisite to long-term social adjustment and a lack of social contact makes it difficult to distinguish what is real from what is not or what is external to what is internal [17]. We often assess and maintain our own personality and sense of self and identity by seeing how we are reflected in the behaviour and responses towards us of other people, a process termed in 1902 the ‘looking glass self’ [18]. Social cognition would also suggest that our minds are in… Read more »
Thank you for this, clickkid.
Every evening at 7:00pm when the pot bangers make their appearance on the local balconies I’m reminded of those old prison movies where the inmates showed their anger by knocking their tin cups on the bars.
— except in this case they’re celebrating their imprisonment. The people who are angry are not participating in this festival of conformity and obedience.
True, milosevic. But I did see several grocery shoppers pushing their carts up the down aisle today. So there’s hope.
Oh yes, there were also the guys in the parking lot talking about brain washing.
OffGaurdian is such a critical resource – I’ll be doubling my patreon contribution – wish I could contribute more
Sitting next to the wife as goes through all the facebook posts of Her friends and family singing happy covid captive songs, people making tasty “disgusting foods”, children doing things, animals…..arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jean-Paul Sartre said Hell was being locked forever in a room with your friends.
We owe it to all at Off G for maintaining its stance on the panic virus and for keeping us all informed of the real research being carried out. Thank you and well done
So pleased Off G getting a significant increase in readership. Looking at the huge number of different comments I can see many new voices. Two things spring to mind also. One, aside from the great discussion of the issues here, I think alot of people are very anxious in many ways and posting here and listening has helped many in dark times. Ive read some great stories from people I can relate to. So hope everyone will continue being supportive to fellow posters and when hopefully this resolves newer readers will continue here. Secondly my mum was saying to me over dinner that Julian Assange (commenting on him apparently fathering children) has had years of his life wasted in embassy and prison etc. I thought for a moment and replied that I dont think Assange would see it like this. He is in a fight for the human race and… Read more »
Thank you Loverat. This morning I read this article and the commenters posts. I came back to it this evening. I wanted more. Bless you Off G and all you brilliant passionate people who participate.
Like you, I am sure Assange is aware that what he is doing is making a sacrifice, but I still worry greatly that his general awareness will suffer as a result of his unheard-of treatment at the hands of these usurping “authorities”, and he may end up simply perishing, not aware of anything at all. If any of us has a glimpse of an idea of anything we could do to end his torture, I hope they will let us know as soon as possible. It’s just unbearable to think that this could actually happen in 21st Century Britain. The people who have made it possible are sub-human. Sub-animal, in fact: After all, what animal chooses to torture one of its own kind? These are the people who are the viruses in our society – and they are far worse than any corona variety. Just look at the fatalities they… Read more »
Great respect and solidarity, Off-G people. I’ve argued quite a bit with some of the conclusions being aired here about the crisis – still think it’s all rather uncertain, but the ‘no pandemic’ hypothesis still seems to be a credible contender to me, despite the equally persuasive opposing indications. I”ll stick with ‘wait and see’ for now. But in any case, this outfit is doing a vital job, and gets my continuing support regardless. Keep sluggin’ friends! 🙂
I second that, it’s freedom of speech and non-censorship that make Off-G outstanding. Even more so in these dark times. Much respect and long may it last.
https://youtu.be/HMiHoI5d8Po
The Promentory: the last of the mochicans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ryJDVuZ6k
They even cutt off the coments on this one, even when there isnt an spoken word in it.
When I go for battle, this one reverberates in every cell in my body.
Its an good time to die in.
An true warrior isnt afraid or hates whats infront of Him, because the love of this behind Him.
peace
The complete soundtrack is one of my all time favourites and Promentory gives me goosebumps 🙂 As you say, if you were going into a battle, this is a fitting accompaniment ! It also brings a great sense of calm when all about you is losing theres.
One might presume that many people who visit this site live in a system that has been called “democracy”. Has anyone of you ever attempted, as a civilian, to ask for permission to read the report, hopefully based on solid empirical evidence, that justifies the current measures of social isolation? Does one have the right to really know why one is imprisoned? Would a civilian have the right to do so in a so-called democracy or is it all more about being an obedient consumer and preferably not a too smart one? Suppose you had real power: would you share your actual knowledge with the populace, realizing that actual true knowledge is power? Why do the mainstream media never report about the infamous “germ theory”? Why is Bill Gates so eager to inoculate EVERYONE on the planet? Is one allowed to know exactly what they are injecting into your body?… Read more »
Hello to Off Guardian You’ve all done a great job presenting additional information. Though it may seem a lonely battle, you’ve not been alone. There have been other questioners out there My latest of many questions is as follows 2017/2018 the US had an unprecedented flu season and the country kept chugging along. What I’m wondering is why the entire nation didn’t shut down during that “pandemic” And I’ve posed a few questions at my own blog.. I’m just asking why? *Was it because the stock market wasn’t on the verge of collapse? *The derivative bubble was still expanding? * Liquidity wasn’t an issue? * Was it due to the fact that since a vaccine was widely available the powers that shouldn’t be didn’t want to draw attention to the fact their vaccine was a fail? Just wanted to share this information. Perhaps others may be interested in this info?… Read more »
Hi OffG, is it possible to post bank details like Craig Murray does for those who don’t (want to) use paypal or bitcoin, or do you need us to email the admins for this?
Murray and his goons er.. ‘mods’ buy totally into the MSM narrative, and get vicious with anyone who disagrees. They appear to have mental health issues there. I would not give them another penny, never mind look at his blog.
Use a prepay credit card if you don’t want Off-Guardian admins to know your real name, you don’t have or don’t want to use regular credit card/s, you don’t have a VISA or similar stamped debit card or don’t want to use it, or you don’t want to open a PayPal account. Note that prepay cards won’t do recurring payments. – Hit the PayPal button at the end of each article. – Type in the amount -Leave the ‘Make this a monthly donation’ box UNticked (recurring payments need a PayPal account) -Hit “Donate with a card“ -Fill in the details. Use the ‘name’ printed on the card. ‘Billing address’ details may not be needed. Try it and see. If they insist and you want anonymity, get inventive*. Same with ‘Contact info’ details -Leave the ‘save information’ box UNticked -Hit ‘Agree and donate now’. *Numerous Internet sites offer free temporary (some… Read more »
Recipients don’t have access to any bank details or anything else about the people who donate to them through PayPal or Patreon. All we see is a name and email address.
“Recipients don’t have access to any bank details or anything else about the people who donate to them through PayPal or Patreon.” I’m aware of that re PayPal. I know nothing about Patreon, but PayPal states it clearly on their payments page. In my first (ordered list) post I was more into giving myself a private laugh at the notion of donations arriving from Mr A. Biscuit and Mr J. Biscuit (a.k.a. Arse and John) and not much into explaining that the name on the card is not transmitted over the card operator’s networks (VISA, Mastercard, etc.) between the card processor and the card acquirer or the card issuer: it stops at the card processor’s system and is mostly just discarded but may be used by some to feed the various cardholder detection and tracking services that are on offer, primarily to reduce the incidence of fraud and charge backs.… Read more »
Incidentally, many card processors/acquirers are now offering a direct bank to bank transfer option for those who don’t want to use plastic. This is electronically equivalent to doing an ordinary bank counter transfer from a reader’s bank account to Off-Guardian’s (analogous to writing a cheque). It uses the interbanking system network, not one of the credit card system networks. Only the two banks concerned get any information about the transaction. Instant clearance/rejection. It’s a one-off process: readers don’t have to have ‘internet banking’ enabled on their account. Don’t know if recurring payments are possible, nor if PayPal offers it yet or ever. Not all banks are signed up yet. Of those signed up already, not all handle multicurrency transactions. Usually called something like ‘Bank-to-Bank’ or similar. It’s a online hosted service, not locally installable: use an API to package up a request and send it off to a portal where… Read more »
And that, only what an ordinary bank counter transfer or cheque (after cashing) transaction gets: bank names, account numbers and names, amount, merchant reference (e.g. invoice number); nothing else.
Presumably just the merchant reference and merchant password and/or some related security data…
You are very welcome, all @ Off-Guardian. The ‘territory’ of holding in and for true witness against all manner of errors and deceits is that of transformation. We either deepen our faith of lose it. (More accurately we lose awareness of where we are giving it under fear). My sense is that hanging in with life works a different outcome than letting fear shut us down – even though it rises and can – if we could then bear to live with a sense of self-betrayal. That so many are so easily triggered to hate and to destructive agenda under flimsy premise aggressively asserted is likely a symptom of such a sense of self-betrayal NOT finding articulation or understanding and thus already primed to WANT to unload onto or target ‘someone or something tangible’. Self-hate underlies ‘humans are the virus’ etc. When receiving the hate of others – for not… Read more »
Thanks Brian. Just watched it. Brilliant – a must watch for everyone. It had to be something as big as this to cause this world-wide scam.
ICELAND REPORT: According to the Daily Mail, the tiny North Atlantic country has randomly tested 10% of its entire population, in order to get a more accurate picture of the COVID-19 situation:
The article goes on to remind the reader that Iceland is not under lockdown.
And – see Brian’s video link above. Iceland actually jailed their crooked bankers, so their no lockdown likely means that they know what is going on and thus have no need of it.
well done, Off-G
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”
Q.E.D.
Thank you too offg. This and one or two other places has been an island of sanity in an ocean of madness. I enjoy many of the thought provoking and informative articles, but I find also that it is good to be able to write openly. I find it helpful to be able to put out in public and in writing some of my thoughts and ideas. I had the weirdest dream last night. I was outside with a group of maybe fifteen or so people and I was walking alongside Julian Assange who was on my right and wearing dark clothing. He’s quite tall of course. He was telling me he had three children. “Oh, I thought you only had two?” I replied. His mother who was also in the group, then piped in enthusiastically to say, “Oh yes, he has three!” (I don’t actually know how many children… Read more »
Jeez Off-G, you nearly gave me a heart attack there! I saw the truncated title of this piece on your mainpage, “Thank You to all Our Readers and…” I thought the rest was going to say “it’s goodnight Vienna”!
All I have to say, is that without Off-G, it would have been difficult, if not impossible, for me to keep going!
Snap!
Thanks OffG for your consistent laser-like focus on the data and the truth, and your opposition to hype and hysteria.
I have to admit that I was a very irregular visitor before this virus thing blew up, but that was my loss.
Bless you too and keep it up.
“Truth is a lonely warrior.”
Thank you for fighting the good fight, Off Guardian.
Keep fighting the good fight guys!
Even if I might disagree with the content of some articles and some commentators here, I don’t disagree with our rights of freedom of thought and speech.
OffG is one of the rays of sunshine that disinfects the virus of fascist propaganda. In so doing I hope you don’t swing too far in the opposite direction and alienate the many moderates here.
At the end of the day OffG is essential to keep funding and maintain against the totalitarian curtain coming down upon our world, and I will continue to donate for as long as I am able to, even as my livelihood disappears due to these unprecedented times.
Have a thumbs up.
Thank you Off Guardian and the amazing community you have for being an oasis of sanity and reason throughout a very dark period.
Just don’t start to delete comments like the Guardian!
oh, shucks :0)