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Rotating on Boredom’s Spit

Edward Curtin

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And all the news just repeats itself
Like some forgotten dream we’ve both seen”
John Prine, Hello in There

Without the ability to forget, we become imprisoned within a collective mental habit that induces us to repeat things that are as hard to escape as is trying to unlearn how to ride a bicycle. This results in the experience of boredom that John Prine captures in the above epigraph from his moving song, “Hello In There,” where the daily news reports seem so old to an elderly couple because they are so repetitive and not new and they realize that.

Now that not just old folks are “in there” and people of all ages are “sheltering in place,” the ability “to forget what it is worse than useless to remember,” as Thoreau put it, has become more important than ever if one wishes to not be driven crazy with boredom of the self- and socially-induced kinds.

“Oh, every thought that’s strung a knot in my mind/I might go insane if it couldn’t be sprung,” sang Bob Dylan in “Restless Farewell,” echoing Thoreau.

As a motivating force in human affairs, boredom is hard to beat. Hatred, envy, lust, love, anger, jealousy: these are some of the alluring emotions that are often emphasized. But boredom – it is so boring! Why go there? It seems too simple an explanation for human behavior, yet nothing is more complex and powerful.

Boredom is like sex once was long ago – a taboo. To admit one is bored is to confess to the modern equivalent of a mortal sin. I think there is an unacknowledged agreement to deny the truth of boredom for what it can reveal about how we live and die. For boredom is intimately tied to our experience and understanding of time and space, and time in its turn is the home from which the modern mind is exiled, as we wander nowhere in a transcendental homelessness, without leaving the places where we are while already being no longer there.

To contemplate our existential and social confusion terrorizes people.

Since it is hydra-headed, boredom’s truths are many. It is often the flip side of the constant agitation and false excitation of modern life and the search for diversion. Conversely, modern manic high-tech busyness, while aimed at repressing boredom, simultaneously serves the function of boring through intense repetition, numbing those who seek to use it to escape boredom. It’s a rotating spit.

In the culture of the copy, everything is replayed, rerun, recapitulated, reiterated, repeated, reproduced, replicated, over and over and over again. Unlike our lives that pass in a flash one time only, we are living in a techno world where we have internalized the machine and unconsciously think we can digitally record our lives and play them again.

Going live tends to irritate and scare people.

So the solution to boredom becomes a problem equal to the boredom itself. It becomes boring. One is trapped, going round and round, even if one doesn’t know it. Then there are those who keep themselves extremely busy, buzzing like an insect’s hum, and deny they are ever bored. They are some of the most boring people you can find, because the sound of their busyness produces no echo since it sounds over a sea of nothingness, as Kierkegaard put it

The current societal coronavirus shutdown that has people locked in their homes under house arrest offers a perfect example of agitated digital boredom at its finest. The incarceration is a two-headed monster serving to drive people quite mad and very anxious as they go nowhere but around and around on the information superhighway, setting the stage for the day the authorities press the release button and people manically rush out into the streets, thanking their bosses for their freedom.

It is a common experience for people who are “sheltering in place” to say their sense of time is distorted and they aren’t sure what day it is. A sense of temporal disorientation prevails, just as it does for those in prisons.

“Every ruling minority needs to numb and, if possible, to kill the time-sense of those it exploits,” wrote John Berger. “This is the authoritarian secret of all methods of imprisonment.”

What was once felt but rarely said to be the boredom of “normal” life with its tedious rounds of the same old-same old will feel like liberation and a gift from the authorities when the go button is pressed. The daily rounds of getting and spending will commence with shouts of joy.

The “new” normal, however, will quickly seem old as the daily grind, which is reality for most working people, resumes, even if at reduced wages and lost opportunities and carried out within a social spectacle that will produce “exciting news” that will be repeated repetitively to keep people aroused, “engaged,” and fearful of the next crisis erupting even as so many go bankrupt.

Angst will float in the bubble of hyperreality as the economic screws are tightened on working people everywhere.

If you can keep yourself busy and preoccupied with trivia and shopping; if you can consume news, entertainment, and social media 24/7; if you can embrace all the weapons of mass distraction offered, then you can deny that boredom is speaking to you, even when these methods of avoiding boredom are themselves monotonously boring. Self-deception and social control are conjoined tricksters.

Boredom has many voices, but the most feared yet liberating message it utters may be: “You are trapped on the merry-go-round of the living dead, bored to death, repeating yourself. You are being oppressed by an unjust social order and are being conned. Why not start living.”

This is the experience of boredom that can give rise to revolt and the urge for freedom, something radically upsetting to both the trapped and their trappers. Echo’s voice is liberated to speak when people are willing to listen.

The essential element of boredom is repetition and monotony; knowing that day follows dusty day and you are going to read, hear, or experience the same thing again and again. As Macbeth says:

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day…

In a terrifying take on this idea, Nietzsche suggested, through his idea of eternal recurrence, that we best be very careful how we live each moment since they are eternal, and that after death we will have to live our lives over and over again down to the slightest detail, while remembering that we are doing so. Eternal repetition sounds a bit boring, wouldn’t you say? Now that’s a thought to rouse one from lethargy and perhaps escape boredom for good.

Interestingly, modernity has forced upon us the necessity for choice. Constant choices are demanded of us, and the more choices we have in a high-tech capitalist consumer culture, the more boring repetitions we encounter. One reason for this is the need of the corporations, government, and the media to offer us something “new” every hour of every day.

Pseudo-events and “news” are manufactured non-stop. And the “new” is updated, with the “new” so often turning out to be old, a variation on a theme across all forms of media and the consuming life.

Having to fill up the space and their pockets, these corporations are experts at repetition, and repetition is the key to effective propaganda.

Have you noticed that when you go to your favorite television station or website, you will encounter endless repetition? If you switch channels or websites – from liberal to conservative, etc. – you will see that most are beating the same drum, flipped to one side or the other.

These days it’s coronavirus-coronavirus-coronavirus, Trump-Trump-Trump; endless droning on today about what was droned on about yesterday. Soon the subject will change, and be repeated until something else is manufactured to keep people occupied and bored. You can easily fill in the blanks.

But why do people subject themselves to such boring repetition? Could the writer William Saroyan’s flippant remark shed some light on this phenomenon? Regarding the claim that smoking causes cancer, he said, “You may tend to get cancer from the thing that makes you want to smoke, not from the smoking itself.”

Could wanting to flee existential and social boredom by embracing the culturally proffered means to do so, be the real problem? What is it about boredom that so frightens people? Does boredom scare people to death? Is getting as far away from death the goal? But is not the flight from death the flight from life and therefore the embrace of death?

I think the quest to seek a solution to boredom is the problem. Walter Benjamin said it beautifully in “The Storyteller”:

Boredom is the dream bird that hatches the egg of experience. A rustling in the leaves drives him away.

But such creative boredom demands a silent patience and a state of mental relaxation that is almost extinct. It can only be experienced if one dwells and does not flee into action. It means forgetting what an oppressive society wants us to always remember.

Maybe in a mediated world where direct experience is becoming more and more uncommon – as we live in a world of screens and filters and electronic gadgets that occupy our living space – we are afraid of fully experiencing inspired boredom because it may force us to consider living. And since living is change, and change is always new, it frightens us. It means time goes by.

But without embracing change we cannot make social change. We may think we can, but we will be doing the same old boring thing and strengthening the existing system.

To rotate on boredom’s spit is to slowly die.

Alan Watts once wisely said:

To resist change, to try to cling to life, is therefore like holding your breath: if you persist, you kill yourself.

Only when it hatches, can the dream bird fly.

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Hi-Ho Silver Lining
Hi-Ho Silver Lining
Apr 21, 2020 11:16 PM

Tempting though it is to be gloomy, we’ve all been rather enjoying it!

Some of my neighbours are out in their gardens with their kids enjoying some glorious sunshine. Other neighbours are mowing lawns and catching some sun. There are more people over the playing fields walking their dogs and kicking footballs than I have ever seen, and people are strolling up and down the town, some shopping, some looking a bit nervous and keen to keep socially distanced, but others are smiling and saying hello, which they otherwise would not do, subtly making their heartfelt defiance known.

I have been disabled for 9 years now, and so fill my time with a near-endless OT distraction I set myself, but I have even taken time out from my Routine Boredom Destroyer to read a book, play some cheerful music, and hit the free MS Windows games like Minesweeper and Spider!

I will say this to the instigators of this fake-hysteria-hatefulness – this could well utterly backfire in their stupid faces, especially once the football fans get back together and vent their collective hatred towards our would-be dictators! I think they have overreached, and will really have to up the jackboot factor if they want to seize control. We’ve never been adversed to rucking with the rozzers round here!

I’m quite excited! Let’s hope some heads roll, and get some 911 justice sorted while we are at it!

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 10:16 PM

That which your mind is most concerned with multiplies and becomes larger. An inescapable law of nature. Rich people have been preoccupied with money since childhood. They’re convinced: He that starts small, ends small. They are even convinced that they are entitled to wealth, property and prosperity in the most natural way (while the poor only “wish” for it, and if they ever get it, they will lose it again). Mindset is everything.

It is our programming that decides what life has in store for us. Our patterns with which we respond to the environment. The inner flashlight sets the focus. One must embrace life like a lover if one wants to be loved back by it as a “lucky one”. Regard life as a promise of happiness, as an enchanting, lovely, delicious, endless, never-ending spring wedding. No one “out there” is waiting for you, don’t try to be the hero of a bunch of losers.

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Sasha
Sasha
Apr 20, 2020 5:55 PM

I’m bored
I’m chairman of the bored
I’m a lengthy monologue
I’m livin’ like a dog…
– Iggy Pop –

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 9:11 AM

Either the “liberal” (another word for indifferent) western man has a pathological “fear of death” – or he is “bored to death”. (Some even commit “suicide for fear of death”.) He shovels his money out of the window and wants to find “life” on Mars for hundreds of billions. He invites the Third World to exist at his expense and that of his descendants.

What’s to advise such idiots? Nobody can help them! If you are tired of your life, you should visit a children’s cancer ward. Then maybe you will become aware again of the senselessness & meaningless of your existence.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/108576829/im-so-sorry-five-year-old-cancer-patient-charlie-proctors-final-words
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/113395503/baby-brings-peace-to-australian-couple-who-lost-3-children-in-mh17-attack

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 5:42 AM

What is “boredom”? It is the existential nausea, the Ennui (Taedium vitae). It arises from a disillusionment and emptiness that results as a consequence of the media overstimulation. If our Internet is interrupted, we feel “cut off from the world” and do not know what to do with ourselves. We’re like drug addicts. We have to face reality, our wasted life, our messy pad.

Where does all this come from? From the distraction that skillfully abuses our innate curiosity instincts. Help can only mean weaning. In the end, we wasted our lives, even though it was there all along, we just missed it. For most people, their own death is the first moment in life when they can no longer delude themselves.

“Are you already alive, or are you still procrastinating?” Like small children, we must relearn the simplest things. See the little things. If you were one of your father’s millions of sperm, your father as well, and so on back to primeval times, it means we are evolutionary winners, but we have been deceived by the appearance of distraction. Seize the day. Listen to “Seneca: On the Shortness of Life” on Youtube.

Cassandra2
Cassandra2
Apr 22, 2020 6:15 PM
Reply to  Martin

What is boredom?

Seeing a comment prefixed by the name ‘Martin’.

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 3:49 AM

A German-British friendship survived the times.

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 3:15 AM

(Eva Braun’s ancestors were called Kronberger, Jewish name.)

Waldorf
Waldorf
Apr 22, 2020 10:11 PM
Reply to  Martin

Most German or Austrian family names can be (Ashkenazi) Jewish ones.

John
John
Apr 20, 2020 2:43 AM

Reading the commentaries below, it appears this reflective and contemplative article is totally wasted on the readers.. Just an impression..

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 3:37 AM
Reply to  John

In your three “comments” so far, Johann, however, the gracious
reader will not learn anything fundamentally new and exciting.

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 2:03 AM

The Brits have an old love-hate relationship with Germany. The German anthem was written on Helgoland. “Heligoland” is also a project of Tim Friese-Green, the producer of Talk Talk. A Frisian island, which even had its own Frisian dialect, and was exchanged by the Germans for Zanzibar by the British. Ironically, the “Empire” lost all its colonies only after the Second World War. Austrian Hitler had offered the British to give them a free hand overseas if the British would give Germany a free hand on the continent.

Heligo is related to Heil. The half-American “Putzi” Hanfstaengl introduced the triple “Heil” salvation as a “German greeting”. His half-American colleague Ferdinand von Schirach seduced the German youth, btw. Recently I already said that Goebbels was half-Dutch. His buddy Josef Terboven was also Dutch.

Hail, whole, heal, holy have the same origin. The largest explosion ever produced in the world by conventional weapons was the British bombing of Helgoland. A film of it on the Internet. But Helgoland (where some still suspect the origin of “Atlantis”) did not perish like Dresden, Aachen, Bremen or Hamburg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riddle_of_the_Sands_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_White

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 1:23 AM

Let’s see what this website now links instead of my conribution (“America has lost her way” from Youtube channel “Zerrbernie” which means literally Terrbernie). To “prevent boredom” (topic of this article), you should at leat not always link the same wrong videos! 🙂

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Apr 20, 2020 3:56 AM
Reply to  Martin

Fire raisers forever!

Martin
Martin
Apr 20, 2020 7:05 AM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

As long as a spark still glows within us, hope is not lost!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Apr 19, 2020 11:55 PM

We are living in interesting times.

Yarkob
Yarkob
Apr 19, 2020 11:43 PM

when i was a kid, if i said to my mum “i’m bored” she’d look at me slightly incredulously, and say “well go and do something then!”

Gall
Gall
Apr 19, 2020 10:58 PM

Actually this has given many of us the opportunity to get off that endless treadmill of consumerism and evaluate what’s really important. In the meantime we have a front row seat from where we can watch the Anglo American Zionist Empire self destruct. So it ain’t all that bad.

Boring? Oh contrer mon ami! How many get to see the collapse of an evil empire in their lifetime?

John
John
Apr 20, 2020 2:34 AM
Reply to  Gall

Quite an educational spectacle indeed, nothing new not recorded by history though, but this time, it being realtime and near, the roof of the theater and the exploding furniture of the scenery might hit you on your head.. One should better go to the movies for a copy in that respect.

Grafter
Grafter
Apr 19, 2020 5:26 PM

There’s a documentary on Netflix about fishermen who go out in their boats and catch fish. When they catch them they put them in boxes and sail home. The fish then get sold. Shortly after that they go back out in their boats and catch fish. When they catch them they put them in boxes and sail home. The fish then….. Thank f..k for Netflix eh ??

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Apr 19, 2020 6:00 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Maybe it’s a metaphor? The State goes out on their television-boat and catch people-fish with their propaganda lines. Then they put the people in their isolation boxes called “home”. Then they go out on the TV boat again to catch more people-fish..

John
John
Apr 20, 2020 2:40 AM
Reply to  Grafter

Curious, I figured the business model of Netflix is to relieve people of boredom, providing pseudo experiences which makes them bored soon after, yearning for more, so to have long term subscribers.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Apr 20, 2020 4:04 AM
Reply to  John

I am guilty.. I have enjoyed for example watching Sarah Lund on BBC4… but Netflix..seriously… people watch this shit?

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 19, 2020 5:02 PM

Live: endless questions about PPE in the UK.

Juirui
Juirui
Apr 19, 2020 5:48 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Fireplace salesman Gavin

Gwyn
Gwyn
Apr 19, 2020 7:43 PM
Reply to  Juirui

I hear that he’s in the top 7,000,000 fireplace salesmen who’ve ever lived. Not only that, but he’s also a quite superb Prince William tribute act.

All in all, a deeply impressive human being.

Ieuan Einion
Ieuan Einion
Apr 19, 2020 5:01 PM

Meanwhile in London, Julian Assange is still rotting in jail but that’s boring old news – we’re onto coronavirus now. Also in London, the secret services/ruling class have regained control of the Labour Party but there’s no room to report it because of coronavirus – and nobody gives a fuck anyway. Thank the lord for Telesur, which reports on the virus but at least hasn’t buried all other news under it.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Apr 20, 2020 8:09 AM
Reply to  Ieuan Einion

Agreed, this total preoccupation with coronavirus to the exclusion of everything else is getting rather tedious. Okay, we get it. It’s been said and done. There are other issues, however. History doesn’t stop because there is an epidemic.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 19, 2020 5:00 PM

How much of the UK’s PPE was stolen by the USA minister ?

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 19, 2020 4:59 PM

Minister: After spending 10 years and a lot of time working out how to kill the old, it seems like a waste of resources now to supply hospitals with protective gear. Most nurses have got the virus anyway, and it would be good to spread it around as much as possible, and protective gear mostly doesn’t work anyway. We would like going to a hospital to be a death sentence for as many old & sick people as possible and we are on target in reaching higher death rates.

Binra
Binra
Apr 19, 2020 4:14 PM

Taken-for-grantedness is asleep in structure.
I associate boredom with self-indulgence and killing time.
Repetitive stimuli numb sensitivity and self-indulgence hollows the content as devoid of appreciation.

Stillness on the other hand is the quality of being shining of itself.
Yielding the restless mindtrap of negatively reinforcing self-evasion to stillness of being is to be renewed.
Stillness is also in doing one thing well or being whole in doing anything.

Inner conflict operates a limiting block and filter against self-awareness.
And when locked down into self-isolation can lockstep with other blockers to protect against the movement of being, the communication of being and the recognition and gratitude for being.

Mr Chops
Mr Chops
Apr 19, 2020 4:11 PM

This might scare you out of your boredom. I always had some idea of dark forces at work but this really is some weird shit……… explain this away…..

Mr Chops
Mr Chops
Apr 19, 2020 4:13 PM
Reply to  Mr Chops

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Apr 20, 2020 4:07 AM
Reply to  Mr Chops

Link doesn’t play for me at this moment in time… The use of the word “spell” reminds me of the revered Dr. Kollerstrom’s evaluation of events historical in Poland.

Mr Chops
Mr Chops
Apr 20, 2020 6:31 AM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

Youtube copyright strike. I thought there was a fair usage policy in place for video but hey ho….. you could search for the official video but you may have to wade through three hours of footage.

I expect to see a lot more videos being removed soon even to the point where the internet will only be able to be accessed through corporate gatekeepers.

Paul Vonharnished
Paul Vonharnished
Apr 19, 2020 3:56 PM

Excerpted from: Pleasure center – Wikipedia

Rodent experiments
“The pleasure center was discovered in the 1950s by two brain researchers named James Olds and Peter Milner who were investigating whether rats might be made uncomfortable by electrical stimulation of certain areas of their brain, particularly the limbic system.[5] In the experiment, an electrical current was given to rats if they entered a certain corner of a cage, with the hypothesis that they would stay away from that corner if the effect was uncomfortable. Instead, they came back quickly after the first stimulation and even more quickly after the second. In later experiments, they allowed the rats to press the stimulation lever themselves, to the effect that they would press it as much as seven-hundred times per hour. This region soon came to be known as the “pleasure center”.

Rats in Skinner boxes with metal electrodes implanted into their nucleus accumbens will repeatedly press a lever which activates this region, and will do so in preference over food and water, eventually dying from exhaustion. In rodent physiology, scientists reason that the medial forebrain bundle is the pleasure center of rats. If a rat is given the choice between stimulating the forebrain or eating, it will choose stimulation to the point of exhaustion.[6]”

Complete text: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_center

My point being that modern man has been over-stimulated by electromagnetic emissions since the dawn of radio broadcast. Current emissions exceed natural electromagnetic background levels by thousands of orders of magnitude. These stimulations are both addictive and deadly…

For those who are interested (or very bored) read the following text carefully: Zory Glazers 1971 Naval report regarding EMF
: https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/750271.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0JreSVhcmpTR3BfJAQ9dJl0GdoywiVLCtVsIfSfZ-_6OspwcUWWy6YSIU

Livingsb
Livingsb
Apr 19, 2020 3:55 PM

Have you tried meditation?

Gaunooh
Gaunooh
Apr 19, 2020 3:37 PM

Chronology of the pop charts of Lies;

March 1987: Aids would effect every family in the UK and there would be a heterosexual epidemic and millions would die..
August 1990: Saddam Husseins troops pulled babies from incubators in Kuwait city hospitals
July 1992 Milosevic had a “new auschwitz” at trnopolje filmed by spook Penny Marshall.
Winter 1992 the Sarejevo bread market massacre…late found to be done by islamic forces
July 1995 the srebrenica massacre exagerration…”8000 men and boys” But no mention of Croatia operation Ouja that killed far more men women and children at the same time and was coordinated by the pentagon.
April 1996: BSE was caused by a viron and there was going to be thosands of human cases. (The link to ICI organosphophates was ignored)
April 1999 Milosevic had nee death camps for genocide this time in Kosovo..Operation Podkova…so bad they got the translation wrong and used a bulgarian word instead of serbian.
September 2001 Man in Cave with kidney disease bring the US to its knees building 7 collapses by magic.
April 2003 Saddam Hussien got the bomb.
July 2005 pakistani suicide bombers manage to warp the steel cassis gurders of a underground train at algate with a peroxide bases weak explosive (only nitro explosives can warp thick steel).
January 2011 Arab Spring (eau de source Langley) Tunisia and Egypt oivernments are overthrown so as to provide a cassic military encirclement if Libya to flood it with arms, islamist terrorists and cash.
September 2013 Assad is gassing his iwn people with sarin.
April 2018 Greta Thunberg the world is on fire..
And now this balone..

mrbump
mrbump
Apr 20, 2020 1:00 AM
Reply to  Gaunooh

are you saying that events are happening over time and the odds if events happening is totally weird?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 20, 2020 4:26 AM
Reply to  Gaunooh

Why lump in the demonstrable truth of the ecological collapse with all the lies of the elites? Anthropogenic climate destabilisation and other ecological collapse denialism are created by and financed by the very same global elites.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Apr 20, 2020 4:37 AM
Reply to  Gaunooh

you missed out the foot and mouth disease.

Tutisicecream
Tutisicecream
Apr 19, 2020 3:25 PM

Chinese Bat Soup [Wall St recipe]

Take a brace of bats or whatever you can procure live from your local market – maybe wet..

Pass it through your MSM regurgitator and bring to an immediate boil.

When steaming like crazy season with a few really outlandish claims and stir violently
Or better still if you own one – use a spin machine.

When all is frothing nicely dish it out to your customers who have access to any credit.

Then when they have lapped it all up remind them that their money is now yours and that all money is basically credit anyway – you own them.

Finally tell them that tips are not included in the bill.

Bon appetite!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 19, 2020 3:23 PM

Another laughable WTF photograph from the Daily Telegraph in Britain… Three men in hazmat suits disinfecting a lamp post

DAVID
DAVID
Apr 19, 2020 3:29 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

He’s marking his territory… EVERYONE KNOW THAT PFFT!!! 🐱

DAVID
DAVID
Apr 19, 2020 3:31 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

On a more “serious” note. Here in Malta, they sprayed the roads near the testing center for a couple of days and it seems that got fed up as they’ve not been back since. Oh, and they only used water.

paul
paul
Apr 19, 2020 8:37 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Rover was NOT impressed.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 20, 2020 4:28 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

No-that’s detoxification of Novichok residues in Salisbury. The neighbourhood had to be fire-bombed then bulldozed and buried down a coal-mine later.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
Apr 19, 2020 3:20 PM

“Our Santa Clara seroprevalence study is now out. It shows 50-85 times underestimated number of infections, therefore 50-85 times overestimated infection rate fatality. True infection rate fatality is in the ballpark of seasonal influenza.” Dr J Ioannidis

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 19, 2020 3:28 PM

And the absolute number that get infected and die in the same time frame.

marvin
marvin
Apr 19, 2020 5:34 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

the ONS has announced that 30 000 people died this year of flu and influenza alone in the UK, and in 2017/2018 – there were over 50 000 excess deaths over the winter months – many attributed to the flu. Corvid has killed 15 000 in the UK (and that number is vastly over inflated) and it is doubtful it will ever get anywhere near 30 000 !!!

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 19, 2020 8:02 PM
Reply to  marvin

Ooh that is a tempting bet! What odds are you giving and how much are you willing to put up?

Seeing as you are so certain how about 10-1.

Put up £1000 and i’ll give you £100 if the number of deaths are nowhere near 30,000. Say 29,999 or less by the WHO or the ONS, whichever you prefer. If the number is 30,000 or more you give me a £1000.

Bet?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 19, 2020 8:09 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Of course i’d be giving the money to a good cause – something that helps alliviate the disaster caused by covid – that isn’t covered by government aid or responsibility.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 19, 2020 3:20 PM

One place where “boredom” never takes root or dares exist is in the twisted and ever fevered brains of U.S. policy makers. The linked post provides admitted only circumstantial evidence for it’s hypothesis that the U.S. is the source of the virus, but for obvious reasons of geopolitical reality it has been my working hypothesis from the beginning of all this:

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/04/18/623325/Why-the-US-has-torpedoed-the-entire-global-economy

Gaunooh
Gaunooh
Apr 19, 2020 3:16 PM

Chronology of the Lies;

Maxwell
Maxwell
Apr 19, 2020 3:02 PM

So all the fear mongering, flat-curvers are 100% convinced that social distancing is the reason that we have been spared 2.2 million deaths.

OK, fine, let’s explore that. California was he first state to lock down on March 19th. Eastern states like New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and a few others followed within 3 to 4 days and by April 1, 37 states (plus Washington DC) had some form of social distancing/stay at home orders. There were many states that did not have official orders until the first week of April and some never had any.

With that in mind, on March 31, The White House announced that the new models suggest that there would be 100,000 to 240,000 deaths. The reason stated was that social distancing was flattening the curve and what the American people were doing was working. On that same day, March 31, the distancing orders of more than 30 states was less than 1 week old and at least 10 states still had zero orders. This is what they claim changed the projections from 2.2 million to 100,000 to 240,000.

But wait, there’s more. If we assume a mortality rate of 1%, which I do not agree with, but lets just say it’s 10 times deadlier than the flu for sh!ts and grins. For social distancing to change the projected death toll from 2.2 million to 100,000, fewer people need to be infected. Right? People stay away from each other, less transmission. Got it! But how many fewer infections do we need to change it from 2.2 million to 100,000? Well, if the mortality rate is 1% and 2.2 million people were going to die, that would mean we were on pace for 220,000,000 infections before social distancing, roughly 10 times the amount of infections in the entire world and 2/3 of all men, women and children in the US. To get to 100,000 deaths we would need to infect 210,000,000 fewer people. Let me say that again. We are to believe that we were on pace to infect 220 million people, but after a week of panic buying at the grocery stores, standing in lines, not wearing masks, congregating in parks and celebrating Spring break, the experts were able to determine that the efforts so far, if kept up, would reduce infections by 210 million and save 2.1 million lives, all with less than 1 week of more than 30 state’s mitigation plan being in effect and without any orders from 10 other states who either started after the model change or not at all.

Pretty Amazing!

And we’re the conspiracy theorists.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 19, 2020 3:05 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Flat-curvers… love it!

Paul too
Paul too
Apr 19, 2020 3:45 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Excellent summary thanks.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 19, 2020 2:24 PM

How it’s done:

bob
bob
Apr 19, 2020 4:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Can they do this to the so-called ‘talent’ on OneWorld Together at Home please

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 19, 2020 5:46 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Less of the boring stultified pseudo-academic essays which offer no relief to anyone but just serve to compound fear anxiety and anger. More of these comedy clips please which achieve the opposite – I don’t suppose you can find that clip from “The Fast Show” where that guy is having difficulty talking due to constantly coughing up phlegm” – that would be nice to see right now. . . . . .

Yarkob
Yarkob
Apr 19, 2020 11:53 PM
Reply to  cupid stunt

how about this:

Yarkob
Yarkob
Apr 19, 2020 11:54 PM
Reply to  Yarkob
Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 19, 2020 2:15 PM

The Tyranny of the Clock, by George Woodcock, which I read at 16 in a book that I recall had a title like, Anarchist’s Handbook.
http://www.spunk.org/texts/writers/woodcock/sp001734.html

Blane
Blane
Apr 19, 2020 2:13 PM

Seems you’ve forgotten one of the simplest and most eloquent quotes on boredom ever recorded…

”If you’re bored than you’re boring.”

The only true antidotes to boredom that I’ve found are creativity and sport (playing, not watching), but weed certainly helps too.

mcdonagh4
mcdonagh4
Apr 19, 2020 2:06 PM

An enjoyable and thought provoking read , thanks for it.

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 19, 2020 2:05 PM

I am never bored and never have been.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 19, 2020 2:23 PM
Reply to  clickkid

Then you’re not trying hard enough.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 19, 2020 5:47 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Stop it George ! You are not supposed to be making me laugh so much right now !

Maxwell
Maxwell
Apr 19, 2020 2:02 PM

Disseminate this far and wide- NY Covid Statistics:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55069.htm

As of 1PM today, the nationwide death count “WITH” Covid-19 was 23,529. And we go full monte with CAPs, quotes, bolds and italics for the reason that it is self-evident the virus per se didn’t kill many or most of these people: It triggered organ and function failures that were already embedded in pre-existing morbidities. And that truth is validated in spades by the New York data. As of this afternoon, New York had reported 10,834 corona deaths or 45% of the national total.

But when you look at the break-out by age categories and rates relative to population, the numbers are simply stunning:

· Under 50 years: 642 deaths or 4.9 per 100,000;

· 50-69 years: 3,174 deaths or 65 per 100,00;

· 70-79 years: 2,888 deaths or 272 per 100,000;

· 80 years+: 4,130 deaths or 1,086 per 100,000.

In short, 18% of all the Covid-19 nationwide deaths crawling across the CNN screen today have been among New Yorkers 80 years and older; and 7,018 or 30% of national deaths and 65% of New York Covid-19 deaths have been among those 70 years and older.

=======

Indeed, when you look at the next most vulnerable category, the 1.26 million state residents aged 70-79, the story becomes even more compelling. In this age bracket, there have been 2,888 deaths WITH Covid reported as of April 13th, which, as indicated above, represents 272 per 100,000.

But, not surprisingly, 62%, 45%, 23% and 14% also had hypertension, diabetes, hyperlipidemia and coronary artery disease, respectively. In all, this group had 5,695 comorbidities among the to 10 diseases, which amounts to 2.0 per deceased.

In sum, 7,018 or 65% of the WITH Covid deaths in New York were 70 years and older and suffered from 13,800 instances of these major underlying illnesses that could have been readily identified by the doctors and health care professionals who treat them.

Likewise, even the 3,174 deaths among aged 50-69 overwhelmingly involved 4,848 comorbidities, including 2,930 cases of hypertension and diabetes alone.

Finally, among the 642 deaths under 50 years, there were fully 634 cases of the top 10 morbidities.

That is to say, there have been virtually no deaths among the disease free population under

Maxwell
Maxwell
Apr 19, 2020 2:03 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

That is to say, there have been virtually no deaths among the disease free population under 50.

Objective
Objective
Apr 19, 2020 3:00 PM
Reply to  Maxwell
nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Apr 20, 2020 3:36 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

New York had 9-11. The substances of the pyroclastified buildings never left the lung tissues of those who inhaled them.
My conspiracy is that all the people dying from respiratory decay via corinna, did actually die from 9-11 as a longterm immunosuppressant of epic proportions. So, no-one die from this virus in NY. They all died from long term exposure to these substances.
I’d like to see proof to the contrary.

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 19, 2020 2:02 PM

An article from 2018 about the effect of EU-imposed Austerity on Italian health provision, which is particularly interesting in light of recent events.

https://www.cesr.org/death-million-cuts-what-future-right-health-italy

Patricia Cooper
Patricia Cooper
Apr 19, 2020 1:54 PM

I do not understand boredom. I am catholic, there is depth and breath and the endless beauty , goodness and and truth to contemplate, explore about our Truth himself. We are small, the triune God is limitless. I imagine looking inward would be very boring indeed.

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 19, 2020 2:04 PM

the triune God is limitless

“triune” seems kind of limiting; why not quadrune, or quintune?

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 19, 2020 5:54 PM

Bless me father, for I have sinned – it is a hundred, a thousand, ten thousand, a million, a hundred million asamya kalpas since my last confession – how much time have you got ?

BigB
BigB
Apr 19, 2020 1:51 PM

Excellent and thought provoking essay: questioning the nature of Time (metaphysically singular: with an Essence – the essence of Time Being Eternity).

Did you see what I did there? More or less encapsulated the entire metaphysical schema in four singularities: Being-Essence-Eternity-Time …BEET. Or as the Nazi Heidegger put it: Being IS Time (two singularities and the copula – to be …to be is to be temporally).

This is the basic conceptual scaffold of the Episteme: the architecture of all belief, the scaffolding of entire knowledge-base, and foundation of all discursive commentary and communication. The basis of the basis; the root of the root …temporal being: being time.

There are other ontological primitives that vary (across cultures, time and space): including categorical Number, Intention, and Agency …the last of which congeal as determinate cause and effect (event causality).

As a later addition – include Ownership – and what do you got [sic] …Modernity. The basis of the entire sociological knowledge-base; of divisional labour and distributed knowledge; of hierarchical complexity – sustained by disproportionate and asymmetrical distributions of wealth and artificially scarce resources – that together constitute the decoherent and barely stable (metastable) hypercomplexity of objectively individuated hyper-individualism we call (Liquid) Modernity.

Do you see a pattern emerging? All subsequent constructed categorical groupings are value-laden singularities of essential and eternal attributes and qualities that can be personified ahistorically as aspects of Being. Being Time = Being Essential = Being Eternal.

Being temporally is (ahistorically) controlled by being eternal. Aristotle called this ”Being qua Being”; the Nazi referred to Sein and Dasein; and I refer to as ”being qua Being” …to reflect the nature of the subordinate control mechanism(s) …the singularities having essences that have a quintessential essential singularity of ordinate hierarchical control. To which we were subordinated before we even left the womb.

Time is important as an integrating transcendent and trans-historical order. It is part of the ontological categorical ordinate suite of hierarchies and taxa (generic classes) of punishment, discipline, and control. We can ”do time” as a sentential (semantic) form of discipline. ”Time is money” which functionally operates class structures. ”Tempus fugit” controls the metaphysical flow of time, money, and technological progression. Concepts of time govern everything we do.

[See Lakoff and Johnson: ”Metaphors We Live By” for a full discussion of the complex Time metaphor. And Prigogine for the true (non-essential) nature of time].

http://www.mountainman.com.au/ilyatime.htm

Time does not exist. Temporality very much exists: but the metaphysical essentialist nature of Time does not exist. Where it does exist: it exists to systematically control …everyone. There are no genera, taxa, or hierarchical value classes under the control of time …except that we made it so. As a suite of metaphysical and transcendent control mechanisms that all operate together. Temporality has been falsely spatialised [Whitehead], externalised [Prigogine], and commodified by quantitative, eternally lawful, and determinate cause and effect means into a scientifically verified ordination of discipline and control …Time is Truth; Time is Being; Time is Order; Time is Money; Time is control.

So it is quite important to question Time. Have we gotten its naturalised order correct? Or is a tad authoritarian and over-controlling? Is the way we have ordered space and time as objectively externalised entities the only way to think of time? Take your time about it. Is time an individuated entity at all? Does it have to mesh with a whole other essentialist categorical entities to make sense? Does that sense make sense? What is we decide to change the cultural-created nature of time? What happens to the other transcendent metaphysical categorical entities if we reconsider time …in time?

Have we made a giant categorical clusterfuck of a universally essentialist categorical error with Time?
Oh yes we have. We made a transcendent metaphysical monster called Being which controls our every move. We were born this way. There is no blame. Our parents did not condemn us. We reconsider and reconstitute the same old metaphysical mistakes a thousand times a second as we are thought by Being …being qua Being. Our categorical distinctions are not concrete: that is to substantiate (reify) the Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness [Whitehead]. Think about it. All we got is Time …only, is it the right time?

No need to rotate on boredoms samsaric spit any longer. No Time; no Being; no Eternity, no non-Being …

What was that? Was that Thomas Kuhn turning in his grave? Or did the paradigm just begin to shift?

😀

mcdonagh4
mcdonagh4
Apr 19, 2020 2:13 PM
Reply to  BigB

I found your response to Mr Curtin offering more timely than the actual article , great post.

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 19, 2020 3:43 PM
Reply to  BigB

“[See Lakoff and Johnson: ”Metaphors We Live By” for a full discussion of the complex Time metaphor. And Prigogine for the true (non-essential) nature of time].”

I thought Boris had only written that Churchill biography.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Apr 20, 2020 1:26 AM
Reply to  BigB

BigB: for the time being, you appear bored to fuck: obviously, I appreciate that time, as we know it, does not exist, however, the frequency of micro-radio-waves is a damned HOT TOPIC & can cause heated discussions and fry baby’s brains, not to mention, warp the ionosphere …

Any relevant thoughts could benefit other’s ! Have you had chance to consider H.A.A.R.P. further; or were you too busy dodging boredom, for the time being, in other directions.
Like you, I’m enjoying this final showdown & closing down of markets and market’s forces, playing big bluffs. But, there are still highly serious scientific matters to address, during our journey to hell in a handcart and your wagon appears to have lost a wheel, whilst the Cherokees were chasing and I have no wish to overtake you, with 2 screws loose and just 3 wheels on my own …

Just a tease, of course, but are you always just going to play with words, like the mother load of politicians, scientists & academics for the time being, in fatalist fashion ? Or are you gonna’ get serious about our greenhouse, once again, hopefully ? It’s going to be very very hot and exhausting in the greenhouse this Summer, is my ‘guess’ and I figure, for the time being, it would be best to focus on fixing our vehicles, before it gets hotter 😉 & food shortages kick in Big Time 😉
Best wishes,
Tim

BigB
BigB
Apr 20, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Tim:

I’m staying right next to Gatwick Airport, looking after my Dad for the duration. I have not heard a plane for three weeks. All I can hear are children playing, the sound of laughter, the sun on branches, the footfall of feet on grasses, the unseen rose ….shall we follow the deception of the thrush?

It’s very much like the state of grace that Eliot tried to capture in the Four Quartets. Knowing it won’t last makes it all the more sacred. Boredom has nothing to do with it. Frustration that it could not be more like this permanently is the gnawing of another reality.

But there is no permanence, no eternity, time is ”unredeemable”. If only that were more generally understood, we might have had, you know …more time!

Take care.

.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
Apr 19, 2020 1:24 PM

Have you noticed that when you go to your favorite television station or website, you will encounter endless repetition?

I can’t even walk by an active television any more. Just as you said, the only thing corona has truly ‘infected’ is the media. Forget the news, very damn commercial is corona oriented! Body soap (pictures of masked health workers, ‘Brave is beautiful’), fast food (‘America needs you to stay on your couch!’), cars (‘financing in these uncertain times’), Uber (‘Stay home. Thank you for not using Uber’), pizza (‘no contact pick-up!’), and even window replacement (‘we take all our measurements from the outside!). Every time someone mentions health workers on the front lines, I think, ‘Well, I must be on the front lines too, because the bombardment hasn’t stopped!’

Books provide solace, but its limited because my concentration is shot. Music helps, but it can be so inexorably associated with certain times in my life that I get melancholy. Others in the house are so bored they ask me what I see on my walk (a goldfinch, a woodpecker, marsh marigolds). The other day, I saw some squirrels who seemed to be involved in a very intense Grand Prix. Perhaps that’s why the authorities are so hell-bent on harassing people who do go out? After all, they might see something that reminds them they’re alive.

mcdonagh4
mcdonagh4
Apr 19, 2020 2:22 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

I have discovered that songs never sounds the same , each rendition is slightly different just as books never evoke the same thoughts , and acquire different meaning , an effect of temporality , as an objective and/or subjective response .

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
Apr 19, 2020 4:43 PM
Reply to  mcdonagh4

Very true. The best authors and composers can integrate nuances that can seem like a fresh discovery even after the twentieth time.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Apr 19, 2020 1:14 PM

I work in a residence for people with mental-health problems. The main ”activity” of choice in the evenings is watching TV. Before I worked there, I hadn’t watched live TV in years. I’d almost forgotten about the totally repetitive and tedious nature of adverts. Every 15 minutes, the same ones are repeated.

It really does my head in when I see the same adverts that I’d already seen a quarter of an hour previously. I know exactly what they’re going to say in them. I abhor that feeling of inane, boring repetition. There’s something soul-destroying about it. I try to switch off from it, but it’s extremely difficult to do so.

(Some of us who work there try to encourage the residents to do other things, such as play board games, but even that’s an uphill struggle. Apathy set in long ago).

mcdonagh4
mcdonagh4
Apr 19, 2020 4:06 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Apathy is the politicized term for boredom overused by frustrated demagogues and would be authoritarians everywhere.

mrbump
mrbump
Apr 20, 2020 9:02 AM
Reply to  Gwyn

bored games are pretty repetitive.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 19, 2020 12:58 PM

You know you are on the right track when hidding foe throw rocks at you.
Loving the drive by down votes.

You have lost, run rabbits, run!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 19, 2020 12:44 PM

Or one could write four sides of foolscap about the inside of a ping pong ball, a common form of detention in my schooldays.

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 19, 2020 12:33 PM

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

updated yesterday.

“•The President of the German Hospital Association has sounded the alarm: more than 50 percent of all planned operations throughout Germany have been cancelled, and the „operations backlog“ is running into thousands. In addition, 30 to 40% fewer patients with heart attacks and strokes are treated because they no longer dare to go to the hospitals for fear of corona. There were 150,000 free hospital beds and 10,000 free intensive care beds nationwide. In Berlin, only 68 intensive care beds are occupied by corona patients, the emergency clinic with 1000 beds is currently not in use.”

Maxwell
Maxwell
Apr 19, 2020 1:49 PM
Reply to  clickkid

This is also happening in the US. Many of those who are now petrified to go to the hospital will die in home deaths. In NYC on average there are 25 at home deaths/day. Last Tuesday, April 7th, there were 256. In the two week period there were over 2,200- normally there would be around 350. This underscores that the hysteria created by the MSM and officials and the policies has caused a large number of excess at home deaths.

This needs to be broadcast with bullhorns and those responsible for these policies, Fauci, Cuomo et al and those promoting this fear, long list of names from the media, need to be held responsible.

Do not let go of this.

mcdonagh4
mcdonagh4
Apr 19, 2020 2:28 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Cuomo like Trump and the repubs in 2016, is running his POTUS campaign outside of the DNC control and hope this “good crisis” he and his media supporters have spun into a panic , will see him nominated at the convention ?

JudyJ
JudyJ
Apr 19, 2020 3:41 PM
Reply to  clickkid

On a similar vein I noticed that the BBC ‘red button’ news section has a headline along the lines of ‘Japan close to breaking point because of increase in coronavirus cases’. The BBC are obviously trying to imply in any way they can that Japan is failing in its more lax control measures. However, when you read the item the Japanese authorities explain that as a result of dealing with suspected Covid19 cases, other emergency treatments for non-coronavirus related conditions are either not being done at all or are falling behind and this is contributing to a serious and dangerous backlog.

Objective
Objective
Apr 19, 2020 12:22 PM

You’ve just described my life, welcome to how it feels to be me. I have had many many years to contemplate this very subject & my conclusion is that this is brought about by dependence on the state for almost everything in our daily lives. the more “liberal left” & “Socialist” the system becomes the more dependent we become on others & it (the system) for our existence.

Technology has a massive part to play in this, if only we could get back to self reliance in every aspect of our lives, building our own homes, providing (at least some) of our own food, fixing our own tools & machines. Yes those things can be a drudge too but doing those things provides a sense of purpose & immense satisfaction when they are completed.

In the end it all comes down to the dependence on technology & globalism that’s is making our lives so miserable & dull. We have lost any reverence for nature & natural process at great cost to our future. We need to establish a new respect & appreciation for the natural world, not a natural world controlled & managed by technocrats, the real natural world that is dynamic & unpredictable.

The irony is we give up all our freedoms & liberty for safety & security yet each and every day the system finds a new fear to keep us perpetually scared & divided. We need the risk of an unpredictable life to keep us alert & vibrant. Not the vapid volumes of celebrity & gadgets that dulls souls & saps our strength with expectations of living a hundred years in boredom.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
Apr 19, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  Objective

Yes those things can be a drudge too but doing those things provides a sense of purpose & immense satisfaction when they are completed.

Suddenly laundry is an exciting part of my day.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 19, 2020 5:58 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

Yeah, I’m with you there – furthermore, taking a dump has become a religious experience !

Reecus
Reecus
Apr 19, 2020 2:15 PM
Reply to  Objective

Excellent!

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
Apr 19, 2020 12:20 PM

Did anyone catch some of the “One World Together At Home” celebrity benefit (for themselves) concert for covid-19? My God, what a farce. The perfect cap off to this “merry-go-round” of media hysteria. Why are Mick Jagger and the Stones, men who have collectively taken more drugs in their lifetime than certain small nations, telling me to stay home for my health? And then Keith Urban is singing, with both of his guitarists visibly less than six feet away from him. And *I* am supposed to practice social distancing. Steve Colbert reminds us all of the ‘smartest guy he knows’, Bill Gates. I’m not kidding you. For some reason, Bill Gates had to be praised yet again in an international mass broadcast. Am I supposed to believe Steve Colbert was so moved by the spirit of Windows 10, or was this yet another media directive from the same private foundation which funded Imperial College and has direct ties to Fauci? But it’s all right, Lady Gaga is here to tell me how to feel. If it weren’t for Lady Gaga’s wisdom in these trying times, we would be lost.

lundiel
lundiel
Apr 19, 2020 12:25 PM

I just knew they’d do some kind of LiveAid thing, expect an even bigger one when we’re allowed out…..just before we are told how austerity will last our lifetimes.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
Apr 19, 2020 1:29 PM

I saw a commercial through that when I braved the common area, promptly started shouting at the television, which was then turned off so I would calm down and leave. What utter drivel.

Steve Colbert reminds us all of the ‘smartest guy he knows’, Bill Gates. I’m not kidding you. For some reason, Bill Gates had to be praised yet again in an international mass broadcast.

Ah, yes, the vital portion of any modern day public ritual– the invocation of the holy G-d Emperor and ‘world health advisor’.

bob
bob
Apr 19, 2020 1:36 PM

BBC One will run the program on Sunday 19 April 2020 at 7.15pm – it says ‘global citizens’ on the advert – shouldn’t that be global prisoners? – definitely one to miss

mcdonagh4
mcdonagh4
Apr 19, 2020 2:33 PM

Lady Gaga’s, Monsters Ball comes to mind ? LOL

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 19, 2020 3:58 PM

All the usual suspects, now signalling their immense virtue. They will no doubt be added to the weekly clap list. And there will no doubt be honours, awards, maybe even Nobels, going their way.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 19, 2020 10:47 PM

Lady GAGA deserve a bullet in each tit.

Steve Church
Steve Church
Apr 19, 2020 12:12 PM

Boredom is something I haven’t experienced since childhood when I had to go to piano lessons rather than play baseball, or spend a beautiful Sunday afternoon inside my grandparents’ gloomy house, dressed in clothes I hated, and eating the inevitable hamloaf, or listen to a lot of my parents’ inane conversation. Since being shipped off to boarding school at age 13, I’ve never been bored. Doing nothing is quite another thing and, I find, quite enlightening. Being a prisoner is yet another thing. I can’t stand it!

I find this post to be one’s of Ed’s least satisfying.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 19, 2020 12:08 PM

Alex Jones as the far-right controlled opposition, trying to insert himself into the heart of the opposition against the house arrest in Texas. Hijacking others work.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aCGYL_1587259514

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 19, 2020 12:18 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

I don’t care.

This situation is so important, that anyone who encourages opposition to house arrest is welcome.

What the fuck are you actually saying?

“If Alex Jones is for protest, then eveyone should sit at home.”?

Jones is not my cup of tea-and yes I do wonder about him, but he is bound to bring more support.

If I and a million others are opposed to something, then it is very likely I can find something about each of those others with which I disagree.

Jack(Jim)

I wonder about the point of your posts here, and I know I’m not the only one.

jay
jay
Apr 19, 2020 12:55 PM
Reply to  clickkid

Millions dickless after Trump says don’t put your knob in a blender.

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 19, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  jay

I’d pay to see that experiment carried out.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 19, 2020 1:30 PM
Reply to  clickkid

Calm down dear……..The protest organiser says, ‘we don’t need Alex jones’, they are right, because he will lead them down the wrong path. He is not on my side, he is a far-right A-hole.

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 19, 2020 1:49 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

It is not up to any protest organiser to decide that.

Let Jones organise his own protest.

You – like all Guardianistas – have no idea what ‘far-right’ means. You just repeat it like a fucking mantra, to link it to anything you don’t like.

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 19, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  clickkid

the people who shout loudest about the “far right” are usually the same ones who think the state is going to protect them against it.

which shows how much of a clue they have.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 19, 2020 2:54 PM
Reply to  milosevic

You defend the poor far right? Contact your local group for their next racist attack. perhaps you can help.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 19, 2020 4:05 PM
Reply to  clickkid

This does seem to be the home for a small number of disappointed far-right dreamers with their broken Brexit dreams and delusions of a ‘Jewish new world order’ taken right our of the pages of Mein Kampf.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 19, 2020 6:01 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Please don’t bring Billy Butlin into all this. . . . . .

Objective
Objective
Apr 19, 2020 3:08 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

For clarification i’d be interested in seeing your definition of “far right” & just for perspective ‘far left’ too.

DAVID
DAVID
Apr 19, 2020 3:37 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Just as long as they don’t turn the frogs gay, I’m ok with the protest’s.

Paul too
Paul too
Apr 19, 2020 4:38 PM
Reply to  clickkid

Agree totally and although this may sound callous I’d rather see Jones and a few of his mates get shot first than any decent folk out there protesting. Let them test the waters! US police don’t like shooting folk who share their ideologies so it could help avoid violence.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 19, 2020 12:00 PM

Sermon for today – it is Sunday – did you forget?

Religion was once the opium of the masses.

The Original Sin – propaganda.

Universal Time replaced that – so the trains would run ‘on time’ – clocktowers and pocket watches set to the same settings across the land – disrupting the natural body rhythms of sunrise and sun set. Industrialisation and production lines the ‘new’slavery. You must clock on and off, or else!

Mass entertainment took over.

The Hollywood religion the new opium. Then TV. Both curtailed now. No new blockbuster propaganda at the weekly visit to the cinema! No new soaps being filmed daily.

No dancing and revelry – a mixed blessing.

Memory is released to swim freely with the lessening of the incessant current – regimented time slavery loosens its bonds.

People are discovering and rediscovering their childhood freedoms and loves.

Music – forgotten memories – is what many are replaying. The internet lets them share with old and new.

Glorious!

Wake up with the sunrise, do the necessities. Plan your dinners. Clean and cook and persue that hobby (if you can).

No need to be trapped by fast living, fast entertainment, fast news, fast food! (Poor starving urban foxes!) Just a restoration of a natural human clock.

Make the most of it. Don’t go meekly back to the state ordained addictions. See the propaganda grid as it dissipates, and the wizards behind the curtains, the naked emperors and false prophets and profiteers stand REVEALED.

Amen.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 19, 2020 12:38 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Also remember not to turn the TV on. Though to avoid hypocrisy, you can watch DVD box sets. I do.

But on no account access the mainstream news. And since the mainstream news has invaded the entire entertainment field – that means just don’t watch transmitted TV.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 19, 2020 12:49 PM
Reply to  George Mc

No tv for two years now. No licence poll tax. Not even cinema or netfix or boxsets – nada. Just music from decent dj’s mostly R6. Even they smuggle in some news once an hour, but zap it!

Annie McStravic
Annie McStravic
Apr 19, 2020 1:46 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Some months ago I called a friend who told me he’d been indoors all day. When I asked what he’d been doing, he answered: “I haven’t done anything. I watched TV.”
I don’t think he realised how true his answer was.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 19, 2020 2:20 PM

Yes that little box in the corner (OK now it’s a flat screen but I grew up in the 70s) is like a rectangular vampire sucking your soul. I shudder to think how much of my childhood was absorbed by it.

Objective
Objective
Apr 19, 2020 3:11 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The commercials are just as dangerous as the news outlets! Avoid all salesmen.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 19, 2020 4:08 PM
Reply to  Objective

Once (probably while having my haircut) the person I was talking to referred to TV adverts, and I said I never watched them. She literally didn’t believe me, but it was 99% true (the exceptions are when I am in a situation where someone else is in control of what’s on TV, which isn’t that often).

I don’t watch much broadcast TV, and of that it’s mostly BBC, more often than not via iPlayer. The only BBC adverts are usually for its own programmes, but I’ve now noticed it’s doing what seem like Covid-19 related propaganda (dancing nurses and all) in between programmes. I zap them as soon as I realise what’s going on.

Objective
Objective
Apr 19, 2020 4:32 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Think I’m allergic to the BBC, my face gets red, my heart beat rises & i have an involuntary violent reaction to whomever is speaking…..like I said beware salesmen & whatever BS they are trying to get us to buy.

Grafter
Grafter
Apr 19, 2020 5:12 PM
Reply to  Objective

Don’t give the BBC any money.

Objective
Objective
Apr 19, 2020 6:21 PM
Reply to  Grafter

I 2nd that emotion.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Apr 19, 2020 11:58 AM

As Mark E. Smith of The Fall correctly observed:

This is the 3 Rs…the 3 Rs: repetition, repetition, repetition.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 19, 2020 12:41 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Great band – well, to be more accurate, great artist with whoever he managed to pick up at the time. Here’s another lyric that seems apt right now (referring to the media):

I’m real sick and in distress
I got octagonals in my eyelids
From watching all that wind
I get horrible horrible horrible dreams
So I ring the TV line and get a lot of wind
They talk a lot of wind

Gwyn
Gwyn
Apr 19, 2020 1:21 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Oh, the boredom in my bones…

That seems very apt, too.

bob
bob
Apr 19, 2020 11:47 AM

in the name of subversion tonight and every night at 8.0pm i’m going to play my recording of ‘clapping seals’ loud, out of every window i can using my digital hifi system – plus, i’ve put a picture of bill gates on my dartboard in the shed – fun times hey?

bob
bob
Apr 19, 2020 11:52 AM
Reply to  bob

also play this – loud

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 19, 2020 1:40 PM
Reply to  bob

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 19, 2020 12:02 PM
Reply to  bob

Better to shout ‘freedom!’ perhaps ?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 19, 2020 12:32 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

The introduction to Milton “Bill” Cooper’s broadcasts, The Hour of The Time

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 19, 2020 2:22 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Or, if you’re a blue faced Mel Gibson, “FRAHDUM!” as in, “They canna tak awa oor FRAHDUM!”