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WATCH: Corona ‘Crisis’, what really happened and how to learn from it? Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg interviewed by Stefan Noordhoek

The now world-famous Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg – who has decades of experience with viruses, epidemics and their consequences – presents his vision on the Corona ‘Crisis’. A malignant crisis that is entirely driven by misinformation and panic.

On the one hand, a ‘Corona test’ that detects old coronaviruses that have been circulating among people for a long time. Performed in ever-increasing numbers these by definition result in ever-increasing numbers of positive tests – alarmingly labeled ‘cases’.

A flu wave that in the medical world and the media only consists of ‘Corona’ and where all other respiratory viruses that also participate suddenly disappear from the picture.

A worldwide total number of flu victims that is completely in line with other years. And on the other hand, a ‘disease’ COVID-19 that has no specific symptoms but is mainly caused by panic. Panic that has caused problems for hospitals and healthcare providers in various parts of the world, not because of ‘the disease itself’, but because of other diverse circumstances, including population structure, health, quality and capacity vs. care and the often fatal (ICU/breathing) treatment.

Wodarg is reassuring for anyone concerned about ‘the virus’. That danger is no greater than in any other flu season (now also based on tens of internationally leading scientists analyzing actual figures from all over the world).

Wodarg’s message is disturbing when you wonder how the whole world can be fooled by such a clearly fact-free ‘panic’ allowing itself to be led to the curtailment of the most fundamental freedoms. A world that thinks it has to prepare itself for a ‘new normal’. In which incredibly dangerous and extremely undesirable ’solutions’ such as ‘mass vaccination’, ‘contact tracing’, and other ‘surveillance’ are seen as attractive.

Wodarg warns for a new wave of cleverly induced panic and thousands of unnecessary deaths as the ‘COVID-19’ (Hydroxy) Chloroquine treatments that are now being prepared in hundreds of trials by the WHO will soon be carried out in Africa. 10-20% of the male population of former Malaria areas have ‘favism’, Glucose-6-phosphate-dehydrogenase deficiency (G6PD). For this large group of people, treatment with (Hydroxy) Chloroquine is often fatal.

Dr Wolfgang Wodarg urges everyone to address their own, local, people’s representatives. And to appeal to their sense of responsibility. To inform themselves. And to ensure that the worldwide madness about this lied crisis and the incredibly dangerous ‘solutions’ are turned around immediately.

Interviewee: Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, born in 1947, is an Internist and Pulmonologist, specialist in Hygiene and Environmental Medicine as well as Public Health and Social Medicine. After his clinical activity as an Internist, he was, among other things, Public Health Officer in Schleswig-Holstein for 13 years, a university lecturer and Chairman of the Expert Committee for Health-related Environmental Protection at the Schleswig-Holstein Medical Association; in 1991 he received a DAAD Scholarship to Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, USA (epidemiology).

As a member of the German Bundestag from 1994 to 2009, he was initiator and speaker in the Enquête Commission “Ethics and Law of Modern Medicine”, member of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, where he was chairman of the Subcommittee on Health and deputy chairman of the Committee on Culture, Education and Science.

In 2009, he initiated the Committee of Inquiry into WHO’s role in H1N1 (‘Swine flu’) in Strasbourg, where he remained as a scientific expert after leaving Parliament. Since 2011 he has been working as a freelance university lecturer, doctor and health scientist and was a volunteer member of the board and head of the Health Working Group at Transparency International Germany until 2020.

Interviewer: Stefan Noordhoek is a son, brother and father of 2 sons. Owner of ZZESTO, an Amsterdam agency for branding and marketing in real estate. In his spare time he immerses himself in the facts behind subjects at the intersection of politics, science and media.

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Andy Brent
Andy Brent
May 13, 2020 4:33 PM

The statistical ‘Covid-1984’ differences between Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland are interesting. So, Northern Ireland (UK) higher, Southern Ireland, non-UK, lower – but all on one small island? Highly suspicious.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 13, 2020 11:41 PM
Reply to  Andy Brent

Clearly the “virus” is recognising a “hard border”.

tiredofthemedialiesg
tiredofthemedialiesg
May 10, 2020 9:13 AM

Very delicate interview, and assessments and points put by Noordhoek. He certainly doesn’t want to step on anyone’s toes, which explains the vague and uninteresting questions put to Wodarg.

Where was the;

‘Do you think that Sars-Covid 19g2 was engineered using the bio-warfare ‘gain of function’ technique as Professors Luc Montagnier, and Francis Boyle maintain, and assert? (neither Professors were ever mentioned)

‘Do you think that Gates, Fauci and Obamma’s injection of millions (Obamma) and billions (Gates) into Wuhan bio-warfare facilities, and outsourcing ILLEGAL germ warfare techniques to offshore China, has any implications for the survival of the human race?

Do you think that the Covid-Sars genome has multiple strains of HIV recombinant RNA, as Luc Montagnier (the man who isolated the HIV virus) declares, and Judy Mikovits supports.?

……………..

But no….
Don’t worry about Cov-Sars19g2 virus’s demonstrable evidence of ILLEGAL bio-warfare deployment and development (and applied use of the obscene ‘ gain of function’ techniques )…….. just talk to your local MP and say you’re not happy.

I’m just sad that this interview was wasted, and the salient points either deliberately missed, or missed by ignorance and lack of preparation (on the part of Noordhoek) (I had the decorators in)

Felix Culpa
Felix Culpa
May 14, 2020 6:35 PM

“HIV recombinant RNA”

Is the suggestion that HIV on its own is harmful?

sam
sam
May 9, 2020 11:43 PM

Dr Wodarg is great, however I think he’s panicking about hydroxychloroquine treatments for Africans
He is saying that the increased deaths in Africans in the UK and other northern hemisphere countries is because of wrong treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
However in the Uk we are not using it at all!
So what is the reason? The same reason we get flu in the winter not the summer. We lack vit D. Darker skined people living in the UK will be much more deficient and should supplement all year round unless working outdoors. A simple blood test will confirm
It is also the reason Africans have a higher rate of diabetes in the UK due to vit D deficiency.
https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/
Hydroxychloroquine Has about 90 Percent Chance of Helping COVID-19 Patients
https://acrabstracts.org/abstract/hydroxychloroquine-is-not-associated-with-hemolytic-anemia-in-glucose-6-phosphate-dehydrogenase-g6pd-deficient-patients/
Hydroxychloroquine Is Not Associated with Hemolytic Anemia in Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase (G6PD) Deficient Patients
I’m sure AFrican countries are quite used to the 70 year old hydroxychloroquine and know how to use it.

tiredofthemedialies
tiredofthemedialies
May 10, 2020 10:52 AM
Reply to  sam

Duke researchers on the campus and in the medical center are awarded nearly $500 million per year from government agencies.

The Coming Revolutio
The Coming Revolutio
May 8, 2020 8:12 PM

About 2:45. “… he speaks as a scientific (scientist) but he leaves out many many things, and, for me… [thinking]… you know, … it’s a little bit… ya… the way he explains his microbiological matters, … we were speaking like… When I was a student we were laughing at those specialists who only saw the world through their microscope and saw the world through THEIR instruments. They were specialists, on the one hand very skilled specialists, and on the other hand they did not look around, they did not understand what they were doing and what they were part of. I have a more… As a practitioner of public health, I have a more holistic approach to public health problems and this is why I was very skeptical when I heard him first.”

This is the most thoughtful reflexion I have heard about everything that’s going on right now about medicine and public health policies. It touches the core problem of the reasons some experts, at odds with reality, interpret medical facts in such an unconnected, separate, atomized and unreal way, which then suggest policies that defy the most elementary common sense.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 13, 2020 11:43 PM

Yes….the trouble is that specialists now know more and more about less and less.

Chris Jonsson
Chris Jonsson
May 8, 2020 8:07 AM

Mos incredible interview. Thank you.

Jose Silveira
Jose Silveira
May 8, 2020 5:38 AM

I believe it is fundamental that everyone watches this documentary (it will make indignation levels rise!):

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IB3ijQuLkkUr/

This was posted below by Jean Wilson (thank you Jean!) and I’m re-posting here, to make it appear closer to the top, for the benefit of viewers who don’t browse through the comments.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 8, 2020 3:43 AM

In a conversation with a (well-informed) store manager the other night, I brought up how the stats are being ludicrously spiked for inflated death counts, and he said, “That’s because they’re getting federal funding for every Covid death they report.”

Is this true? Have there been other reports of that?

It’s the first I had heard that.

Is that rumour, or can that actually be confirmed?

tiredofthemedialiesg
tiredofthemedialiesg
May 10, 2020 9:22 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Of course it’s true.. Pathologists, hospitals , Health Service administrators and funeral directors too. All provable.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 10, 2020 2:01 PM

Wow. That info is significant, though not that surprising.

And loaded like a powder keg. It’s the first I’ve heard of those being party to this, although you might see that many who are so locked into the system they can no longer tell the difference, might rubber stamp some of this, just assuming it’s all good (i.e. not a conflict of interest/fell conspiracy?) Somnambulists, in other words. Or simply cowering in place.

But at some point you’d have to call it collusion. Worthwhile to know in lawsuits. What’s scary about a lot of this is the sense that, whatever parties are pulling the ultimate strings, they don’t seem to be very concerned about the consequences, for them. And that would suggest confidence in redundant “fail-safes”. Let’s hope it’s overconfidence?

Do you have documentation (vettable links) confirming any/all of that?

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 10, 2020 2:08 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I guess that makes sense, if you have the federal funding for the one, you have the other, and you have the plausible deniability that the Fauci-backed funding is all just to help us “flatten the curve”, the one size fits all “baseball cap” of a (meaningless) slogan.

Nevertheless, if you have a tidy collection of links, we’d be much obliged. I’ve been skimming, scanning, and scrutinizing so much, yet a lot falls through the cracks.

tiredofthemedialies
tiredofthemedialies
May 10, 2020 5:16 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I have only watched nurses and doctors and funeral home owners in NY specifically maintaining that the Cov+ figs were vastly inflated. The money is not a secret.. look on youtube. Many mention it.

morty
morty
May 11, 2020 9:54 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

My knowledge of it came from a Senator from Minnesota, Sen. Dr. Jensen,

tee ell
tee ell
May 8, 2020 2:40 AM

Fascinating – thanks. I’d be interested to see whether he’s seen evidence of hemolytic anemia in patients.

Caltrop
Caltrop
May 8, 2020 1:48 AM

Gates vaccines maim and kill

“………….In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines.

In 2014, the Gates Foundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces. Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders. Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls. The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court.

In 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a trial of a GSK’s experimental malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizure, and febrile convulsions to 1,048 of the 5,049 children.

During Gates 2002 MenAfriVac Campaign in Sub-Saharan Africa, Gates operatives forcibly vaccinated thousands of African children against meningitis. Between 50-500 children developed paralysis. South African newspapers complained, “We are guinea pigs for drug makers”
Nelson Mandela’s formar Senior Economist, Professor Patrick Bond, describes Gates’ philantropic practises as “ruthless” and immoral”.

In 2010, Gates committed $ 10 billion to the WHO promising to reduce population, in part, through new vaccines. A month later Gates told a Ted Talk that new vaccines “could reduce population”.

In 2014, Kenya’s Catholic Doctors Association accused the WHO of chemically sterilizing millions of unwilling Kenyan women with a phony “tetanus” vaccine campaign. Independent labs found the sterility formula in every vaccine tested. After denying the charges, WHO finally admitted it had been developing the sterility vaccines for over a decade. Similar accusations came from Tanzania, Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines.

A 2017 study (Morgensen et.Al.2017) showed that WHO’s popular DTP is killing more African than the disease it pretends to prevent. Vaccinated girls suffered 10x the death rate of unvaccinated children.

Gates and the WHO refused to recall the lethal vaccine which WHO forces upon millions of African children annually. Global public health advocates around the world accuse Gates of – hijacking WHO’s agenda away from the projects that are proven to curb infectious diseases; clean water, hygiene, nutrition and economic development.
They say he has diverted agency resources to serve his personal fetish – that good health only comes in a syringe.

In addition to using his philantropy to control WHO, UNICEF, GAVI and PATH, Gates funds private pharmaceutical companies that manifacture vaccines, and a massive network of pharmaceutical -industry front groups that broadcast deceptive propaganda, develop fraudulent studies, conduct surveillance and psychological operations against vaccine hesitancy and use Gates’ power and money to silence dissent and coerce compliance.

In this recent nonstop Pharmedia appearances, Gates appears gleeful that the Covid-19 crisis will give him the opportunity to force his third-world vaccine programs on American children.”

Wake up.

https://www.facebook.com/kimsense/posts/10157682176572572

MRC-5 in Vaccines

A nurse warns about ingredient MRC-5 in Vaccines which is human aborted foetal tissue from the 1960’s.

https://www.facebook.com/andy.bonny.10/videos/10215606475658657/UzpfSTU1MDI5NjI5MToxMDE1NjQ1NzY4NjA1NjI5Mg/

Vaccine Truth with Nurse Olivia

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 8, 2020 10:33 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

Thanks, Caltrop, for this very comprehensive summary. I have taken a copy and will use it next time someone tells me that Gates has nothing but a humanitarian ideology driving his ambitions! Yes, I’ve had that said to me.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2020 9:39 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

“Gates’ philanthropy practices…”

Someone remarked that the term “philanthropy” carries, in the original Greek, a sort of say satires upon itself, in that the term doesn’t strictly mean the love of humans, but the “love of anthropoids”.

So much of Bill Gates’ actions betray a love for a species separate and outside himself, anthropoids loveable for all the great good that they can do for his ambitions.

With anthropoid lovers like that, who needs enemies?!

Hail
Hail
May 7, 2020 10:04 PM

D. Wodarg raises good points and is of course vindicated. Let his name be remembered as a hero of the Corona-House.

What is left to sort out is: What caused the Panic? It which took on a life of its own, increasingly divorced from reality as March went on. Why did people emotionally cave in to the Panic? Generalities might do, but a few close case studies of extreme cases of people who fell into the pro-Panic side, when and why they did, might be helpful. I’ve proposed one here:

“Corona-Paranoia” and the case of pro-Panic US Congresswoman Haley Stevens, a character study

Hank
Hank
May 8, 2020 3:02 PM
Reply to  Hail

Since the EU is run by socialist communists and China is communist they have the same goals. Trump was squeezing the EU to pay more for Nato and tariffs on goods. Trump was also squeezing China with Tariffs. Now China has convinced the stupid EU to go along if they want China’s economic support and they have. It’s always been about getting rid of Trump and the democrats in the US have played along. Like the man said China is using the crisis to buy cheap oil and resources all around the world. Very cunning. You think China cares about the rest of the world. Show me a communist that does.

In the UK Boris might be in a conservative party but he ain’t no conservative, hates Trump and signed away with China on 5G. His own party are more left nutters than conservatives. The fool of a scientist he listened to Neil Ferguson just resigned cause he had corona, screwed a married woman and didn’t practice his own stupid social distancing orders.

And all of the EU and China love Gates and the WHO/UN.

When economies collapse people look for cheap good that they can afford which country manufactures cheap goods?

They, especially China are very scared of Trump and America and to them the ends justify the means.

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 7, 2020 9:19 PM

” COVID19″ its not real a false belief that we have made appear to be real by believing it.
A mass delusion(based on fear) spread by a group of ego driven control freaks afraid of loosing control of the minds it puppets with all the uprisings and recognition that the systems( political, health, medical ,corporations for profit ) are not OK.

Hail
Hail
May 7, 2020 10:05 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

Mass Delusion

Now there are two good words for Corona.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 8, 2020 2:17 AM
Reply to  Hail

Leading to mass hysteria.

Paul too
Paul too
May 9, 2020 2:42 PM
Reply to  Hail

Herd delusion.

Offlands
Offlands
May 7, 2020 9:08 PM

They really don’t like our Judy:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/facebook-youtube-struggling-to-remove-plandemic-conspiracy-video.html

The video contains claims that defy the advice of medical experts, such as that sheltering in place harms consumers’ immune systems and that masks can make people sicker.

Wow!! That is not defying the advice of medical experts, that is common sense and well documented.

kevin king
kevin king
May 7, 2020 6:32 PM

Wodarg is still part of the problem. He believes virus are transmissible and cause disease. There is simply no proof whatsoever of this. This notation of viruses mutating is another nonsense thread of mischief they throw in there. They use a PCR test to detect these viruses and that’s it. They don’t isolate from just material taken from the patient. They can’t even detect this ‘virus’ in the blood of humans without adding all sorts of things like antibodies that of course induce the creation of exosomes – another word for a virus.
They rely on people’s complete ignorance of what is going on and it has worked ever since Pasteur started killing dog’s with his rabies vaccines and Koch people with his tuberculin and it continutes to work now. This is the true power of brainwashing. Repeat a lie over and over again and no one will question it.

Binra
Binra
May 7, 2020 7:24 PM
Reply to  kevin king

I am not at all arguing with what you say – just the way or the framing that you set it in. And even then – not an argument but a willingness to join in questioning narratives that instead of saving us, lead us into entanglement of further deceit.

We have to support the undoing of a misidentified belief system by bringing transformational opportunity to where it is, rather than simply destroying it in the belief we can then impose a new and error free order over the top of the wreckage. That way lies the present madness.

So you can be ‘right’ and yet persist in the self same pattern that is propagated by wanting to tell everyone ELSE what the problem is – or that they are the problem.

If you looked into your fear you would soon start to see why people seek displacement narratives.

The pattern goes back to ancient times and takes different forms without being identified in our own hearts and minds.

While I don’t subscribe to germ theory I still see exosomes as extracellular communication – perhaps with both updates to environmental challenges and executable code.

They are better thought of as code or information packets than pathogens. But as Bill Gates knows, codes that can be hacked can be made to perform different instructions. However I am sure that beneath the biocomputer level of our biogenetic body mind is an energy field that holds the original informational matrix. Where else would healing come from?

On the other hand, if you WANTED to manually or privately change your source code or template for thoughts through which you then experience, you first have to believe you have disconnected from the all pervading or non-local field of Energy-Information-Sustenance-Direction – or the Qualities of your true Existence. This is where attack and fear come in because wanting to be what you are NOT, is setting up a dissonance with what you are as a basis from which to feel lack or separateness and need-driven behaviour – over and against a sense of dissonance assigned as other, enemy or attacking adversary. Once open attack is made in return, you have the vicious circle of a self-reinforcing negative feedback loop.

Attempts to escape an unrecognised self-attack or self-hate lead to dissociated narrative identities – cast out and locked down into social distances – and a need of allies and external reinforcement by which to lockstep against feared chaos.

Now I cannot tell you that you have never really separated from Source – no matter what you ever have or can do – and have you make any sense of it. But I offer it to the recognition and curiosity to see the deeper patterns that are in common to the world we think we live in, believe we live and and react as if we live in – not so differently as that we may think we GO to a web site and meet up in a comment box!

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 7, 2020 9:14 PM
Reply to  Binra

Yes if diseased you have “hacked” your own mind into believing you are something other than you are and you are lacking just a body/ego .
Healing does not come from the body but from the healed( whole) mind.
The whole egoic operation ” COVID19″ is based on fear.
Collectively believing in a false Crisis hereby creating one when the only crisis is that we do not know who we are and are cowering and puppeteer-ed by false ” authorities”

Gerrard White
Gerrard White
May 8, 2020 3:35 AM
Reply to  Binra

This post is almost absurdly wise if not sage, and I’m not being sarcastic – I am surprised no one has reacted to it – perhaps it is too far removed from fear from the tone and thrust of the comment zone

I’d very much go along with the suggestion that to strike out violently at the ruling class dominant narrative is predicated and is to be suckered, just like the herd has been stampeded

In time of panic to remove is a cure

Binra
Binra
May 8, 2020 9:33 AM
Reply to  Gerrard White

I appreciate that a resonant connection has found you moving in response.

If we are invested in a narrative or mythic identity, then we are filtered by its interpretations. We all ‘know this’ in theory but that doesn’t mean that we cant become engaged in our own doubts as a kind of internal battle acted out in our perception and response of a world.

Waking from a hypnotic suggestion is then the issue for any of us who have effectively ‘taken the bait’ of identifying in reaction to our narrative as true, rather than awareness of a story as a story. The collapse of identity into character is both an extraordinary capacity to experience our own present through the lens of an imaginative supposition or premise – and to forget or lose current awareness of a presence that is open ended and infinite – not in the sense of big or small, but as a quality of connected potential.

The capacity to persist a dream even while being communicated with from a truly current calling, is of interpreting everything of the shared relational world in terms of the dream. Likewise those qualities of our being that are on the cusp of awareness are brought in like new wine into old bottles to further support our narrative identity – instead of serving a true and spontaneous renewal.

The taking up of insights and good ideas as leverages to make a better dream always operates the same underlying premise of a subject separated or singled out within a creation that is set in and of a sense of lack, limitation and conflict – to be solved, overcome, escaped, or understood so as to define and control – but still from a point set in judgement over its narrative creation, that seeks reinforcement of lockstep with others, to generate systems of support or leverage by which to overcome the evil which each sees in different shadows or perhaps in the same target but for different reasons.

I used the term dream here, but not to demean or dismiss our human experience.
The creative imagination is a gift of infinite potential – regardless the use to which it is put. Given to a capacity to generate conflicted fear that feeds on itself to generate an inertial fulcrum operating AS IF separate, locked down and locked into survival mode – that by its very nature shuts down higher ‘instant evolutionary’ potentials of connections, communications and synchronicities.

Now why would anyone coming across this in the middle of a sporting match see it as ANYTHING to do with winning the game? While a game is worth the candle – we give it our light to play out. Leaving or dropping the game in truth has to be willing to alight in what is worthy, instead of seeking to persist in a futility as if ‘this time it will be different’. But the experience of releasing the familiar – or the devil we know – as an active faith without conditions or expectations, is fear of loss of self in the terms of control.
But how much of such control is gotten FROM a fear running as if a thing unto itself – but then choked back or locked down and used as a prop?
And … do you WANT it?
Is this game worth the sacrifice of a greater light – or is it timely to alight in a releasing of stories to reveal their blessings instead of the attempt to imprint new stories on the destruction and demonisation of the old?

A true blessing is simply shared life – or shared resonance in life.
When we frame blessings in a sense of self-specialness, or indeed curses, we are choosing to give our light to private mode – in which a truly shared reality is muted or put on snooze so as to pursue the experience of our thought and imagination.

Your gift joined in bring this posting. Resonant energy is integrative and synchronous.
patterns of negatively polarising conflict are no less synchronous, but are experienced as mistimed and misinterpreting breakdown of communication. In other words we don’t really LEAVE the ‘field’ so much as generate compelling experience of what I generally refer to as separation trauma – and all the strategic defences that rise as reaction to lockdown an infinite potential in a net of polarised stagnation in which nothing true can move.

Beam me up Scottie !
😉

John Pretty
John Pretty
May 7, 2020 9:59 PM
Reply to  kevin king

Kevin, some of what you say is right, but some of it is wrong.

There is sensible reason to believe in, and proof that viruses not only exist, but also sometimes cause disease. This virus is real enough, it is just that the threat it poses is massively hyped.

The fear that people have of this virus is greatly out of proportion. Fear is the problem, but the virus is still real.

You refer to “they”. Who are you referring to?

Pasteur was a scientist. I don’t follow your reference to him killing dogs?

I am not against vaccination. Vaccination is a useful way to reduce disease. I am not against vaccination. I am against forced vaccination.

I would not trust any vaccine produced for the coronavirus because the virus is not that dangerous and because it is likely to be produced in haste and without adequate testing. And because I don’t trust Bill Gates.

But I have had the flu jab before and I would be happy to have it again. But not if it is being forced on me.

gordon
gordon
May 8, 2020 12:37 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

louis was a thief a cheat a filthy liar a killer.
the terrain is all

Binra
Binra
May 9, 2020 2:47 PM
Reply to  gordon

Polarised identities demand feeding. Watch out!
Regardless what is observed note the subjective reactions.
Louis Pasteur learned to self-justify his acts.
Everyone has such a mind, but not everyone brings it to a heartfelt honesty.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 8, 2020 2:21 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

There is sensible reason to believe in, and proof that viruses not only exist, but also sometimes cause disease. This virus is real enough,

Where is this proof, of which you speak?

Or are you just taking it on faith?

Binra
Binra
May 9, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

One can argue that just about anything can sometimes cause disease – but the principle lie of the virus as fear leverage is its false flagging as a pathological agent.
Zach Bush speaks well into this on Del Bigtree – quite a way in. Well worth watching – in my honest opinion.

Binra
Binra
May 9, 2020 11:55 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Flu vaccination is well known to increase other respiratory diseases – including corona virus related. It is also a ‘small percent’ effective in terms of matching the active yearly virus expression, and has antibody reaction that in some people bind to other (CV19) viruses in adverse ways. It is also heavily marketed under and protected by state authority for private gain and developed without transparency, accountability or oversight for safety and efficacy. The measurement of antibodies in and of itself does not confer or equate immunity, resilience and is part of inducing vaccine dependency as both a lack of actual resilience (compromised immune systems) and political and social control.
Any business or agency that cannot be litigated against for criminal fraud or negligence with regard to its promotions, claims and services is a direct invitation to criminal abuse.

Vaccination needs (also) to be considered with regard to death by all causes and not just the narrow focus of one disease expression. I respect you freedom to choose to be vaccinated. I do not support any overriding of basic human rights as to what is done to or directly put into our bodies or our children’s under whatever pretext and regard biological experiments on human beings without a true and informed consent as a violation against the spirit and sanctity of life and attack upon the basis for human civilisation.

Protecting from fear by superstition can seem to work, but only be limiting the mind.
The role of science is in questioning narratives that limit our perspectives and participation under subjections and controls, so as to regain creative understandings and freedoms of being that serve a richer biodiversity of consciousness and life. This is impossible under sacrifice to systemic dictates or mandates that deprive us of the shared experience of living and learning together.
The onus of self-responsibility and a true character development, is what deserves and requires social support.
The current regime is backwards and allegiance or loyalty to its thinking is to give up the capacity to think with life – for yourself and others.

I thank you for recognising that global mandating a (new mode of DNA editing) ‘immunisation’ on the pretext of a covid19 terror propaganda blitz that lacks fundamental substance as a genuine threat – would constitute a genuine threat to the human species.

The only parallel in nature for such behaviour is in certain parasites that take over the nervous system of their host as part of reseeding or sporing themselves.

I recommend Zach Bush’s perspective for a knowledgable, articulate and compassionate source of inspiration. Don’t let the interviewer (Del Bigtree) be a reason not to listen, Zach speaks for himself and is on no one’s partisan platform.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 8, 2020 2:31 AM
Reply to  kevin king

I’m not sure he does believe that, Kevin, even if that’s what he makes out. We can tell that Wodarg is controlled opposition because he pushes the ludicrous idea that a “conspiracy of scientists” is responsible. You don’t need science to work out the nonsense that that is. He does what so much controlled opposition does – distract us with information that doesn’t bring us to the actual truth.

It’s really quite simple. There are two streams of propaganda:
1. Virus pandemic (for the believers)
2. Virus illness blown out of proportion (for the skeptics)

The science says there is no pandemic nor a virus illness blown out of proportion but we get the evidence in ways apart from the science and we should use that evidence too. That evidence is not to be sniffed at. It is tangible and if we have scientists who are controlled opposition telling us stuff that only sort-of adds up we should most certainly be consulting evidence from other angles that clearly shows the Big Lie that this alleged pandemic is.

All we have to do is go to YouTube and search for “coronavirus patients” and we will ONLY find patients who are not convincing or, in some cases, very actively unconvincing. This is because the power elite are utterly scrupulous in ensuring that when you blow away the magic propaganda dust there is no evidence that a believer of their story can brandish in support of it. There are far more scrupulous in ensuring that the truth is always at our fingertips when they perpetrate their psyops on us than we are in our analysis of their Big Lies. I hate to give them that but it’s a fact. Of course, if we were scrupulous in our analysis they wouldn’t perpetrate them that way but they know from millennia of experience that they can push the truth right under our noses underneath their propaganda dust and yet we still refuse to see it.

Point 5 in my blog post below presents not actively convincing and actively unconvincing alleged patients suffering from COVID-19 with a couple of ludicrous miracle survivor stories thrown in.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-hoax-jan-2020

tiredofthemedialies
tiredofthemedialies
May 10, 2020 9:35 AM
Reply to  kevin king

“He believes virus are transmissible and cause disease. There is simply no proof whatsoever of this.”
Yes, that’s right..In the real world, (as opposed to your’s) Playgroup and school occupants, teachers and parents do NOT suffer viruses transmitted between kids.. It’s all a lie..

Viral transmission occurs by feeding, parenteral injection, or environmental exposure. Ranaviruses grow in a wide variety of cultured fish, amphibian, and mammalian cells, and cause marked cytopathic effect culminating in cell death, likely by apoptosis. In contrast to their marked pathogenicity in vitro, their effect in animals depends on the viral species, and on the identity and age of the host animal.

Pajays
Pajays
May 7, 2020 5:57 PM

Thank you for providing this interview. I had heard this doctor earlier in another forum disputing the “pandemic” narrative. This interview is much more thorough. So appreciate his insights and knowledge. So I am grateful that you have provided the opportunity for this information that is likely now or in the future going to be censored in other forums. And, of course, so are your many other articles and videos.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 7, 2020 5:08 PM

Update on the legal challenge brought against the UK Government by Simon Dolan. Government lawyers have requested a further week to respond.

http://r.mail.crowdjustice.co.uk/mk/mr/wShq7-ZV3EDVYwmKnZ_AOngxsVBXCcC6eOQVS1VtJLrPG0ajesW6IWNBpvPXpeLcHeTZHVK6z6v3JEXPMoiEtFJkl2Hwkgdk2MXJ8icZwHAwo114lfZ5

Philpot
Philpot
May 7, 2020 4:47 PM

Once again, magnificent work by OffG bringing this to the public. I even made a donation! Thank you OffG.

Klein
Klein
May 7, 2020 4:02 PM

Why have we not had not even one antibody prevalence test study completed in the UK yet ? Nearly every other supposed developed country has them – with an average of 0.2%

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 7, 2020 9:31 PM
Reply to  Klein
Maxwell
Maxwell
May 7, 2020 3:25 PM

What would be 5 or 6 of the main subjects to be used that folks here would think the best ones to disprove/disentanlge the Covid narrative. I’m thinking of the more obvious ones- ones that would lend themselves to a short, crisp description or bullet points that then go into a flyer.

1) The flaws in the tests;
2) Falsifying, overstating death numbers/how it’s done;
3) Death of elderly w/pre-existing conditions/nursing homes;
4) Italy as case study;
5) WHO, CDC, NHS ties to Big Pharma
6) Media disinformation
7) Disappearance of other respiratory diseases;

Etc…

Any others?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
May 7, 2020 3:45 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Matt Hancock’s admission that the government introduced its “lockdown” measures without having made any attempt to assess how many people would die as a result of the measures.

breweriana
breweriana
May 7, 2020 5:35 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

That, plus his crazy GIGO computer model forecast of >500,000 dead.

Stewart
Stewart
May 8, 2020 11:59 AM
Reply to  breweriana

Also, the “source code” of his 16 year old pandemic prediction program was released recently, but only after a top microsoft coder had spent about 6 weeks cleaning it up! The changes made to the original program have not been made public, but it is known to have consisted of one 15,000 line file, with no documentation.
The “cleaned up” version that has been released to the public has been roundly ridiculed online
it’s unthinkable that a decision to shut down the global economy, or even the UK economy, could actually be based upon the output of this piece of crap, especially when his doomsday millions dead scenario for swine flu failed so hard.

Blane
Blane
May 7, 2020 3:48 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Most people rely on others to do their thinking for them, so logic and reasoning doesn’t seem to help many people shake the manufactured fear. My most successful arguments usually revolve around “shooting the messenger.”

For instance…

Did you know that Big Pharma and globalist think tanks are the primary financiers of the WHO and CDC?

Did you know that Big Pharma now accounts for 70% of American TV ad revenue?

The people making the policy decisions are also the ones that are going to profit off this “disaster”!

People in positions of power are over reacting because they won’t get in trouble if they do do much, but they will get in trouble if they do to little.

Hope that helps, cheers!

Bruno Rivademar
Bruno Rivademar
May 7, 2020 4:36 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

I would add the case of sweden also.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 10:29 PM

Death rate 288 per million, as of May 7, the seventh highest anywhere. THAT Sweden?

Paul too
Paul too
May 7, 2020 4:57 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

I think showing all recorded deaths this winter season vs previous seasons puts this into perspective like nothing else.

For Europe the euromomo.eu data shows us that for around 2/3 of Europe, overall death rates are way lower than 2 out of the last 5 year’s data (I’m in England where the ONS Office of National Statistics data records overall mortality which is picked up for the EU stats). It also shows that even with all the competitive covid-19 counting to see who can get the highest number of deaths that can in any tangible way be included in the covid-19 statistics, the supposedly worst hit countries like the UK are still not seeing overall mortality above several seasons in the past 10 years.

From there I’d argue that if overall death rates are showing nothing unusual how can there be reason to introduce measures never before seen or needed for any event or pandemic? As John Ioannidis put it in his first video interview, if the scientist in China who supposedly discovered this new strain, hadn’t, then nobody would be any the wiser.

With the current situation where countries are not following a consistent approach to assigning deaths as with or from covid-19, classifying without even testing etc, most of the other approaches available are not going to be comparing like to like.

I know you’re in the US Maxwell, but does the US mortality data show the same (that you’ve had higher mortality rates in the past 10 years), or that this really is an unusually bad season for the US?

Maxwell
Maxwell
May 7, 2020 6:28 PM
Reply to  Paul too

Here is the trend line- I’m having a hard time finding just the simple figures of how many died in Jan of 2020, in Feb 2020, in March 2020 in April 2020, etc… to be used with overall rates during that time frame in other years.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

Here is what I am getting from that trend line let me know if you get the same.

Normally in the US there are around 860 deaths per 100,000. Last year I found data for was 2017 and it was 864 per 100,000. That trend has been spiking as you can see from that trend line. On average up 1.2%/yr on average over the last 7 years.

The death rate right now in US is 8.8. That figure always goes up this time of the year and goes down as we get into summer.

The current rate of increase is 1.2% which is overall lower than all years between 2014-2018.

Still would like to see those absolute figures.

Binra
Binra
May 7, 2020 7:42 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

The way it was pushed was my first red flag.
Perhaps that could be:

Recognisably blatant propaganda blitz from all the usual suspects.
I was already educated as to fake narratives for infectious diseases going way back and so was not so likely to take the bait and invest by reaction.

But the key fact is not so much the biological aspect as the use of a medical emergency as pretext for global governance (coup).

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
May 7, 2020 7:50 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Maxwell.
Any others?

8) the obsequious goons who consecrate the liar narrative with their pathetic deference to it.

theguvnor
theguvnor
May 7, 2020 8:17 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

The fact that the major departures from the benign world pattern of the progress of the disease are particular to the Western power centres, NY, Brussels, UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imrLwM97i0k

Alessandro
Alessandro
May 8, 2020 3:57 AM
Reply to  Maxwell

How can we test for a virus that cannot be isolated?

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 8, 2020 7:36 PM
Reply to  Alessandro

And if we can’t properly purify & isolate the “virus”, how can we properly identify an antibody to it?

Binra
Binra
May 9, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  Alessandro

Anyway you want – and to get the results you want by changing the test parameters and disease or ‘infection’ parameters.

I also challenge germ theory – but since David Icke publicised this I see ‘a flat earth’ mentality of simply denying views rather than engaging.

How many of us truly own our view in thought, word and action?
Or do we try out opinions as part of a socially presenting identity?

Something can be photographed. We don’t know for sure that that is what it is said to be or that even it was – that it actually causes the clinical symptoms – which are mild when they actually show at all for almost everyone.

Hank
Hank
May 8, 2020 3:24 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Empty hospitals, stupid doctors and nurses dancing in the hallways of “overwhelmed” hospitals, Brazil, Taiwan, Singapore etc, overall death statistics, Bill Gates, Al Gore and the whole green/climate change movement that is worth trillions and will be linked to corona.

I could go on but I’m sick of corona not with corona.

Vittorio Sgarbi sticking it up all the corrupt Italian politicians over this hoax, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUCWcft6kao

The Coming Revolutio
The Coming Revolutio
May 9, 2020 6:31 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

That, after several weeks, and with all the new data available now on this , the least thing one would expect is the organisation by WHO of an international, scientific and public debate between proponents and opponents of the current measures; because, if there is something that can be said without a shadow of doubt, it’s that the current measures are far from reaching unanimity among connoisseurs and a debate is the logical next step, if one assumes that policy makers are motivated by good intentions.

This needed debate is shining by its absence, and therefore, we are entitled to doubt the truth of our assumption.

The Coming Revolutio
The Coming Revolutio
May 9, 2020 6:39 PM

As a matter of fact, we are entitled to declare our assumption to be false and act upon that. Enough said.

LisaLane
LisaLane
May 7, 2020 2:18 PM

Yeah, really good video. I’ve seen a lot of stuff that convinces me there is no coronavirus pandemic. …. but yet, I’ve just spent half an hour washing a huge delivery from Asda.
The fear is real.

John Milton
John Milton
May 7, 2020 5:18 PM
Reply to  LisaLane

Are you in a ‘high risk’ category?

LisaLane
LisaLane
May 7, 2020 7:32 PM
Reply to  John Milton

Yes, me, HBP and chronic bronchitis. But more importantly, a 19 year old daughter who has had heart bypass surgery. Better safe than sorry, eh?

Binra
Binra
May 7, 2020 6:25 PM
Reply to  LisaLane

That’s a recognition though. The reality is a fear-reaction identity being leveraged.
There is no real risk from covid 19 for 99.98% of us – and for the others – everything is a risk!

Intellectual understanding does not dispel fears – you have to accept it in your heart by stepping OUT from the lockdown of your own mind.
This is perhaps the GREATEST OPPORTUNITY of this event. To graduate from fear rehearsals into a willingness to incarnate.
(I know you are already born – but as a child we are undermined of a core trust of life and shut down in our innocent curiosity. But I state to you that these are covered over and not truly lost.

I don’t say you should do this break your habit, I invite you to open any moment of simple curiosity about your fear and move with what you recognise and accept. Then you are not trying to fight a part of yourself that is in fear – regardless of what anyone thinks.

This fear is not ‘new’ it is simply targeting fear you already had. Now you are in touch with it.

If I had a vision for the future of Humanity, it would have to include regaining responsibility for our consciousness – for our habit-reaction – and its polarising into conflicts.

The other thing that comes to mind.
If you are going to act for you defence in such ways as washing down the outside world before it can come in and become part of you, at least make it an act of self-love.
I don’t mean narcissism, but because you care.
Fear does not care for you, but tyrannises you.

I am nearer 70 than 60 but see my risk as gov.thugs official or otherwise because I don’t buy the story or give attention to the tellers. But I have met terrified people when shopping, and see still a lot of fear-conditioned distancing that isn’t simply physical.

Terrified people can be vicious at worst and suspicious at best. There is no love in it – excepting to call on or seek protection from the very sources that triggered and fed the fear.
Hence to criticise their clapping or loyalty to those who are on some level knowingly and selectively destroying the economic basis of the lives of billions globally – is to be perceived as the virus itself!

I appreciate your honesty. And a release of judgements in me that helps me in relating to so many who have in many ways entered another reality to me, though we walk the same Earth.
To be the love that you are is to align the reality that matches you.
You may not feel or think you are love – but how then could you feel betrayed or rejected or abandoned?
Broken love seeks to put itself together again with bits of wreckage and wishful magic.
Even those seeking control or dominion are seeking a substitute for the power and meaning of their lives where it cannot be found, and in ways that reinforce the driving belief.

LisaLane
LisaLane
May 7, 2020 7:42 PM
Reply to  Binra

A lovely and poetic response, Thank you.

Binra
Binra
May 7, 2020 9:09 PM
Reply to  LisaLane

Thankyou – But unless this has practical workability it is but a passing flower.
But then beauty can and does seed the capacity to listen in the heart rather than run mind-controlled.
If you are in a ‘risk’ category you are in the realm of knowing you need to tune in better to the source of wholeness and healing. Then you are giving attention there rather than in your fears – which of course can be kept on a lead so as not to run away with themselves.
What we share, we strengthen.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
May 9, 2020 8:24 AM
Reply to  LisaLane

I have friends with elderly relatives they have been unable to see, despite having advanced knowledge about what is going on with regard to the World Economic Forum brain etc… the fear is real… also I have met a person who has witnessed the lies of civil war and how those who manufacture the lie still drink with the enemy whilst the people murder each other… love is our only hope.

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 7, 2020 9:33 PM
Reply to  Binra

Why is there any risk of getting ” COVID19″? The new imaginary deadly disease for fear inducing so as to maintain control( mind) .

Binra
Binra
May 9, 2020 2:57 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

Fear works a self-fulfilling script. Anything given power has all the power you give it.

Hazzo
Hazzo
May 9, 2020 4:57 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

Its not imaginary, at least not for the ‘at risk’ groups, a friend of mine was admitted to hospital two weeks ago, age 64 and with athsma, he’d caught the virus while visiting his 80+ Mother in a care home, she died while he was in hospital and he died the day after posting a video to FB telling everyone he was ‘over the worst’.
I believe the virus is being spun as worse than it is but for those with underlying problems its killing people, for the fit and healthy it probably poses very little problem other than you’re spreading it to close elderly family contacts.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 7, 2020 1:58 PM

Snitches in a panic because they didn’t realize that their snitch report becomes a public record. https://reason.com/2020/05/04/be-warned-coronavirus-snitches-you-too-may-be-snitched-on/

breweriana
breweriana
May 7, 2020 2:09 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Perhaps they didn’t know what happened to collaborators after the war.

One saying that I remember from school, chanted to tattle tales:
“snitches get stitches, and thrown into ditches.”

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 7, 2020 3:40 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Perhaps they should watch Lacombe Lucien (1973) – Louis Malle film about the German occupation of France. Based on his own experiences in France during the occupation, Malle’s film does not paint a pretty picture of the French Resistance and eventually he emigrated to America because of the critical reaction to this film. Essentially the tale of a young boy who wants to join the Resistance but is shunned by them because of his youth, he joins the Gestapo. Not a pretty picture of either side. (Rotten Tomatoes)

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 7, 2020 5:43 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

We need a Snitch Anonymous recovery programme:

My name is [fill in blank] and I’m a snitch . . . etc

Blane
Blane
May 7, 2020 1:55 PM

The modern Globalist playbook for increased power and wealth:

1) Exploit their Authority Bias

2) Extort their Confirmation Bias

3) Repeat

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 7, 2020 9:41 PM
Reply to  Blane

1) Control minds through “educating them” from childhood to accept them as the authority . Make them believe they are separate, lacking and incomplete and so must fear loss and each other using narratives to spread delusions, illusions and falsities.
2)Do this by creating and maintaining beliefs so that people stay as dis empowered believers not knowers and co creators.

RealPeter
RealPeter
May 7, 2020 1:51 PM

Where I live, I don’t know anyone who has been infected, let alone become ill or died, or know anyone who knows anyone who has.

Since the lockdown started on March 17, we’ve had mostly beautifully fine weather and it’s been dreamtime for gardening. That is what I’ll mainly remember from the Great Coronavirus Panic of 2020. My own private plague is just the slugs and snails now emerging to devour all the plants at dawn and dusk. I’ll get my revenge on the snails at the end of summer, when I gather them and eat them back.

I need to fill out and sign a paper, however, to go out and buy food, stating my name, date and place of birth, my address, my purpose in leaving the house, and the date and departure time. This is tedious, and, to my great annoyance, I’ve only been stopped and had to show the paper once in six weeks. Where have the police been? Maybe I ought to denounce myself.

When I’m sitting in the garden with my end-of-day beer contemplating the sun setting over the mountains, I can hear the local people come out onto their balconies and clap and cheer “our heroes” the medical, supermarket and public transport workers, as encouraged, indeed practically instructed, by the MSM and the politicians, the latter uniformly as arrogant as they’re hopeless, contradicting themselves every two or three days and clearly blundering their way through the crisis they’ve created themselves. The Great Mask Debate: useless or useful or both? The Banned Beaches Debate: why can you crowd into the Metro and not go walking on the beach? The government’s Fake News Guide website, laughed out of existence after three days. The Great Tracking App – but I have no cellphone. I could go on, so I won’t.

gordon
gordon
May 7, 2020 2:04 PM
Reply to  RealPeter

interesting that in london the zig zaggers in the sky dumping the raid and roundup grey haze soup.
they still do it but they cannot get the traction as to many flights spraying will give the lock down lie away

best sky in over a decade

the sky once sprayed becomes an electrical grid heavy metals within the muscle tissue organs and human genome
bluetooth,modem signals 24 7 mobile phone pollution and the big daddy 5g phased array weapon
electro fog of war
somethings cooking can you smell it

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 7, 2020 3:56 PM
Reply to  RealPeter

Adding to the Great Beach Debate, apparently you don’t have to worry about corona in a swimming pool because of the “sheer amount of water”.
*slow blink*

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 8, 2020 7:42 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

I imagine the chlorine may help.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 8, 2020 7:46 PM
Reply to  RealPeter

You are evidently in France. May I ask where? Only because I was there in the early days of the lockdown. I was in Provence, a bit north of Aix. I needed an “Attestation” to get back to Marseille airport. I never had to produce it; brought it home and scanned it for posterity.

The people I was staying with tell me that there have been very few cases in their area.

RealPeter
RealPeter
May 12, 2020 12:14 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

I live in a small town in the French Alps. I’ve been told the big teaching hospital in the nearby city has had very few Covid-19 cases, and that its A&E department was completely underwhelmed – the doctors spent a lot of the lockdown mowing their lawns.

The main problems with the coronavirus scare seem to have been the economic, social and political (loss of freedom of movement; electronic surveillance) issues created by the lockdown itself. The French were surprisingly docile about the lockdown. I think they were glad just to have a rest, at least in the beginning.

PWL
PWL
May 7, 2020 1:49 PM

The world wasn’t fooled. The Anglo-globalists have a plan for an (old) new order. They never let a good crisis go to waste.
Surveying the triangulation of UK Government’s Covid-19 tyranny, Nazism, and the Collective of “Equals”

Codigo
Codigo
May 7, 2020 1:41 PM

Watching further, its riveting interview. He doesn’t appear to have an agenda other than pointing out some every unscientific behaviour of his peers.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
May 7, 2020 1:16 PM

The “lockdown” response to the coronavirus is a case of collective madness, induced by the corporate media’s hysteria fear-mongering.

Borncynic
Borncynic
May 7, 2020 1:48 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

And on that note, Douglas Murray has shown himself to be nothing more than a mainstream bootlicker.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
May 7, 2020 2:07 PM
Reply to  Borncynic

Borncynic. I find Craig Murray to be rather more complex than that. He clearly has sincere convictions, such as for example his putting human rights (of Uzbeks) before his own career and the interests of the British State. But he also retains much of the ideological outlook of the elite. This leads him into holding intellectual incompatible positions simultaneously.

On his blog, Craig Murray expressed his support for the government’s “lockdown” measures. So, I asked him: how many lives would the measures save and how many people would die as a result of the measures? He ignored the question because he knows that it is precisely the question that should have been considered before the measures were introduced, and he knows the question was not considered, and he knows he has not attempted to weigh those potential harms against those potential benefits, and he knows that the failure to weigh the potential harms and benefits of a policy before implementing it is an irrational, irresponsible and incompetent approach to policy-making.

By the way, cynicism is something to be avoided: it leads to one thinking one knows the answer to a question even without having gone to the bother of finding out. It also leads to an expectation of the worst in others and a passive acceptance of such bad behaviour.

breweriana
breweriana
May 7, 2020 2:14 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

“This leads him into holding intellectual incompatible positions simultaneously.”
Doubleplusgood!

Borncynic
Borncynic
May 7, 2020 3:09 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Think you misread me, Steve – it was Douglas Murray I was referring to. Your post chimed with his ‘Madness of Crowds’. Yet, whilst you would think this was a god sent example for him to pipe up, his arse is covered in skelfs from hiding on fence.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
May 7, 2020 3:18 PM
Reply to  Borncynic

Borncynic, you are correct. Apologies.

As for the madness of crowds: Charles Mackay “Memoirs of Extraordinary Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” is a much better book. You can read for free at: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24518/24518-h/24518-h.htm

breweriana
breweriana
May 7, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I took an ‘essential’ walk to the centre of town today, for the first time since the insane ‘lockdown’ was enforced.

It reminded me of a prophecy that my old Granddad related to me, many decades ago, reputedly made by the English seer known as Old Mother Shipton:
“Everyday will be Sunday, by and by.”

Except it was far worse than that.

People with fearful looks upon their faces, walking into the road to avoid me, as if some kind of latter day leper was approaching them.
Others wearing useless masks over their faces.

Many ‘non-essential’ shops all boarded up after throwing in the towel. Even in the food shops that were open, many shelves are empty.

This is a truly chilling Britain we now inhabit.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
May 7, 2020 2:18 PM
Reply to  breweriana

The walking into the road behaviour. They are frightened of a virus that would probably have no effect, might make them mildly ill for a few days, or if they are really unfortunate might make them seriously ill for a week or two, or in the worse case might result in their death. Yet they fearless walk into the paths of speeding tonnes of metal. If this is not a case of collective madness, I wonder what one would look like.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 7, 2020 2:33 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I heard an amusing story yesterday. Apparently some woman in the Manchester area was being lauded for filming from the roadside (??) individual cyclists passing by so she she could provide evidence of irresponsible behaviour; a father with two small children were among her victims. I was discussing this with someone and he, a cyclist, said that he too had been given aggressive glances by pedestrians and he could only deduce that they believed that the virus would hitch a ride on cyclists’ clothing and then randomly jump off onto any unsuspecting pedestrian standing on the pavement!

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
May 7, 2020 2:39 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

I am also a cyclist. The other day as I was cycling a pedestrian shouted: “Two metres!” as passed. The really bizarre thing was that he and I were more than two metres apart as I passed.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 7, 2020 4:03 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I encounter this whilst simply walking. On a standard path, if person A and person B are passing one another, they should each be able to step off and walk in the grass immediately parallel to the path and maintain the lauded six feet. I politely step off the path; the other person bolts far into the grass or bramble and glares at me the entire time.
On the other hand, there is an isolated wooded area I walk through almost daily, where I have encountered several individual teenagers (different ones at different times) staring fixedly off into space next to their bikes. I think it’s a designated angsting spot? (I’m being goofy, but I do feel for them) Despite being stereotyped as notoriously uncommunicative, every single one of these teens has initiated a brief conversation with me. It’s like they see another human and want to grab onto that opportunity for interaction. One even talked to me for several minutes about the weather.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
May 7, 2020 4:08 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

The “lockdown” measures must be particularly harmful for teenagers. This is the stage of life where they are required to distance themselves somewhat from authority and establish relations with their peers, which is of course impossible when they are required to spend all their time only within their own household. It is the exact opposite of everything we have known about human development. Yet, we are supposed to believe, these measures are the science.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 7, 2020 4:57 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I agree, Steve. Teenagers are being seriously affected emotionally and socially as a demographic group. Early on in the ‘lockdown’ I used to come across a group of about five or six teenagers congregating and not social distancing in a relatively secluded area. They clearly wanted to maintain their regular group get together. Some people would probably have been intimidated by them but I thought they looked pleasant kids. As I passed by them the first time, they looked terribly guilty and were obviously worried that I would scold them or report them. So I smiled and joked about my dog failing to appreciate the social distancing rules. The kids relaxed straight away and were relieved to make small talk. I came across them two or three times later.

But some time later I saw on a local community Facebook page people moaning about groups of teenagers flouting the rules and proudly stating that they had identified them and reported them. I just hoped that the kids didn’t think it was me.

All I could think was “Get a life, and start by getting a few functioning brain cells”.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 7, 2020 5:19 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Judy– I got a similar reaction from a group of four teenagers in another somewhat isolated spot near an old tennis court. Showing my age, but I thought one of them had a boombox (it turned out to be a speaker you could plug your phone into); they were all just sitting in the sun, talking quietly. I saluted them and pressed a finger over my lips as I passed. Maybe it was just the next song on rotation, but the lyrics playing (hell if I can follow pop or hip-hop music) were something like “remember how things used to be”. I almost said something about them being too young to be nostalgic, then realized immediately that wasn’t true anymore.
I agree with both you and Steve. These teenagers are being forced into situations very atypical and counter to their social/psychological development. I think a lot of seniors feel like the future they imagined suddenly vanished. I sometimes wonder what it will be like ten or twenty years from now, when these kids have grown up resenting the Powers That Shouldn’t Be for derailing things. Or maybe they’ll buy into the narrative to help justify what they’ve lost.

Ort
Ort
May 7, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

You and the other commenters in this sub-thread may appreciate this commentary: “Covid Lockdown Imprisons Our Youth” by Maxwell

Ort
Ort
May 8, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  Ort

I belatedly see that for some reason, the link to Maxwell’s worthy commentary didn’t appear in the previous post.

I’m trying again, although I doubt anyone else will see this. Sorry about that!

Ort
Ort
May 8, 2020 6:48 PM
Reply to  Ort

Either the “link” feature isn’t working, or I’m doing something wrong. (I simply paste the URL into the provided link field, make sure the initial “http” isn’t duplicated, and click “OK”– but the link doesn’t display.) Here’s the raw version; third time’s a charm!

http://newlevellers.blogspot.com/2020/05/covid-lockdown-imprisons-our-youth-by.html#disqus_thread

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 9, 2020 4:19 PM
Reply to  Ort

Ort

Thanks for the very pertinent link. The essay sums up the situation very thoughtfully. It is all very worrying but, as it says, the implications for youngsters of all ages (and any young adults these days who may be living with parents) who are being emotionally or physically abused have not been considered in the slightest by those making up the rules as they go along without any thought for the consequences.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 9, 2020 2:37 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

All I could think was “Get a life, and start by getting a few functioning brain cells”.

People with that mentality would have been working for the Nazi’s if we’d been occupied.

I saw a group of four young people sitting on the opposite riverbank yesterday while out walking. They were at normal distance for a group of friends, and not doing anyone any harm. I quietly gave thanks that things were perhaps getting slowly back to normal and went on my way.

Nowadays, if someone is walking towards me, I will move over a bit, but I won’t go to great lengths to avoid them, or step off the kerb if in town. Summer is coming and batty flu is over.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 9, 2020 4:28 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Summer is coming and batty flu is over

We might think so but I saw the latest information bullet points being publicised by Sky News (I think it was, but it’s no doubt on other outlets). They were very keen to tell everyone that the latest scientific ‘facts’ (that’s a laugh to start with) about coronavirus are that ‘neither cold nor hot weather kill it off’ (a somewhat broad and meaningless statement but obviously intended to deflate any undesirable optimism that may have been creeping into society); and we were also informed that the virus ‘dissolves [sic] in water so keep washing your hands with soap’. ??

The hype is clearly becoming even more desperate.

Ort
Ort
May 9, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Yes, I have also noticed the troubling tendency of the public-health and political authorities to plant “seeds” of ominous information, reports, and predictions that bolster the view that the Megadeath Virus of Doom is only getting started, accompanied by intimations or warnings that the public must not “relax” its anti-COVID vigilance, much less wish (or, heaven forfend, agitate) for a return to normal.

Here in the US I’m appalled by the way that mass-media has normalized the COVID-imposed “lockdown” status quo– “lockdown” being shorthand for social-distancing, mandatory PPE wearing, etc. Both national and local TV advertisements now generally make explicit references to the lockdown requirements: offering goods and services tailored to lockdown conditions, assuring viewers that their business or services are lockdown-compliant, and mixing in smarmy, maudlin tributes to our heroic health-care workers.

I respect and appreciate health-care workers, but this glurge-like gushing is obviously a function of the top-down infoganda campaign to impose a “war footing” mentality.

I live just outside Philadelphia, PA. There is some talk of “re-opening” businesses and easing some restrictions, but apparently one of the conditions will be to require everyone to wear a mask at all times. The local newspaper did a “puff piece” commending an advertising firm for producing a new line of catchy posters and/or ads with cheery, upbeat slogans promoting mask-wearing.

I can’t remember the slogan. I know it isn’t “Don’t Be an Ass– Wear a Mask!” but that’s the spirit.

All of this confirms my earlier suspicion that the authorities all along the various command structures would be skittish about undoing the lockdowns, lest they be blamed if there is a spike in reported severe infections and deaths. The “temporary” restrictions are becoming “indefinite” restrictions.

Alas! I don’t have an upbeat slogan to end on a positive note.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 9, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  Ort

Ort

It’s fascinating to read your second and third paras because they mirror exactly the m.o. in the UK. It reinforces the suspicion that the whole exercise has been centrally co-ordinated across different countries at a very high level from the very beginning.

gordon
gordon
May 7, 2020 4:08 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

i work for the nhs and i have arrested and detained many violators
distance thieves pre cough crimes,
cough and sneeze violations, slow walkin in jog on areas
park bench sitting,park bench lounging,
drinking 5 grams of vit c water in a lucozade sugar fizzy drink area

looking ill,looking old white and ill,looking black or brown and ill
i could go on
these nhs laws are for the nhs if we do not protect it then it will not be protected
that is why we have to protect it so it does not become unprotected

at some stage i have been promised a jacket like the fbi but with nhs neon sign light on the back and a badge like a cowboy sheriff has in the movies
the nhs is the whole hole of the law
good times
your busted

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
May 9, 2020 8:43 AM
Reply to  gordon

You’re gonna look great in that jacket, Gordon. Thank you for saving the lives of even those who don’t know you’re saving their lives. Thank God for the NHS, such a pristine unsullied organisation which never detained anyone against their will or forced them to have an injection up their arse. Not to mention their quite brilliant maternity consultants and other geniuses in all fields of human health. They all do it for love, not money or the pension scheme. Clap clap clap.

Reg
Reg
May 7, 2020 3:55 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Jesus! People have become warped. They really should remove themselves from the gene pool.

gordon
gordon
May 7, 2020 3:54 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

i walk into the road because i have the urge to strike out at the visual offenders
the other day i saw a man with a perspex full face guard a cross between neil armstrong helmet and welders protection.
on the front of the plastic perspex blowin in the wind was a blue paper surgical tv show face mask.
it seems to me that the elaticated ear hooks on the paper mask where gaffa taped down and yet it was still flapping a brown grime distemper stain could clearly be seen around the nasal region. all i could think of was the stains could not have been from the sucking of air through the paper as the plastic would certainly block the passage through put. i came to the conclusion that the grime was on it to begin and that this person was a governmental tavistock terror horror performace artist seeding and embedding the psychosis anchoring and wankering with the mind space.
then again he could of been a NHS hero deserving of a ritualistick clapathon

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 7, 2020 9:43 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Its the fear which you should respond to with love.
We co create this world a fact those that have taken over would not let us know about.
What do you choose Love or fear?

John Pretty
John Pretty
May 7, 2020 10:10 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Not everyone I have come across is so pessimistic.

Noteably younger people seem less inclined to avoid you if you walk close.

I think the anxiety level has been reducing, but the media are now pushing this evidence free “second wave” bullshit to keep people scared.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 10:41 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Masks are not ‘useless’. They make some difference in transmission of respiratory spread illnesses.

breweriana
breweriana
May 8, 2020 10:44 AM

With all credit to:
https://lockdownliability.blogspot.com

THE FORCED FACE MASK RULE IS TOTAL NONSENSE!

1) A face mask in no way protects you against any virus free floating in the air. To be fully protected from floating viruses one needs a full biohazard containment suit with a mask filter capable of filtering virus size particles. The entire contact area between the face and the mask MUST be sealed….so any form of face mask home-made, surgical, industrial etc., to protect against airborne viruses is ILLOGICAL. No mask will protect you when an infected person sneezes at close quarters unless you are inside a full biohazard containment suit!

2) If you are infected unless you wear a sealed medical mask capable of filtering viruses..every time you sneeze, cough etc. virus particles will freely flow through the mask into the open infecting others or contaminating surfaces..so an infected person wearing any mask other than a medical grade mask capable of filtering virus particle is also total NONSENSICAL advice!!!

3) A healthy human face is not meant to be covered in a mask unless it is for very relatively short periods such as surgery, construction or industrial work such as sanding, milling all of which require specialty masks.

Continuously wearing a face mask especially in warm humid conditions will lead to bacteria growth from inside your nose and mouth to grow onto the skin causing all forms of horrible itchy conditions such as bacterial and fungal infections. The scars from these infections will last a long time unlike a pimple scar!

4) Recommending people wear homemade masks to protect AGAINST VIRUS particles is not only ILLOGICAL but literally evil. The reason is homemade masks made from cloth contain lint and dyes that are not meant to be inhaled. Many of them are petroleum based polymer compounds like polyesters that can actually cause CANCER of the lungs when fine micro-particles are inhaled! So instead of inhaling fresh healthy air, you will be inhaling cheap carcinogenic Chinese, Pakistani lint laden with the cheapest chemical dyes from your homemade mask!

5) The MASK itself becomes a source of infection! By wearing a mask constantly, the inner surface of the mask itself becomes a site for nasty bacteria to thrive in enormous numbers. So once again, instead of breathing healthy air, a worker at WALMART forced to compulsorily wear a mask has to breathe through a bacteria laden surface that makes him prone to higher risk of fungal and bacterial infections!

Codigo
Codigo
May 7, 2020 1:05 PM

Yes im not sure about his theory that it was total hoax by China in order to get some short term economic gain, as economic pain in the rest of the world, still has a large negative impact on China, so seems counterproductive imo.

But very interesting about the classification bias re respiratory illness or death, and how all the other causes of similar illness now decreasing in the stats…which needs explaining. There is no reason why a covid-19 pandemic should decrease other flu, respiratory illnesses, if they have a previously stable average over a number years.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 10:47 PM
Reply to  Codigo

The lockdown would have affected the spread of other respiratory illnesses, don’t you think.

Codigo
Codigo
May 8, 2020 12:23 PM

Yes it may have, that a good point. However even with really strict lockdown here in Spain, there were still hundreds of deaths per day, in week 6 or 7 of lockdown. So while i think your point is a modifier, im not sure it’s enough to explain the differential.

Reg
Reg
May 7, 2020 1:54 PM
Reply to  bob

A cabal of absolutely evil fucks are running the show. May they burn in hell for eternity.

Jason15
Jason15
May 7, 2020 2:22 PM
Reply to  bob

A very powerful article, thanks for sharing.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 10:48 PM
Reply to  bob

Omnia vincit pecunia.

Objective
Objective
May 7, 2020 1:02 PM

Listening to this raises two main points for me.

1. Civilizations reliance on technocratic rule (Applied science) over understanding of natural process (true science). I’ve made this point many times, but it can never be underestimated. The issue is the infiltration of one specific political ideology throughout every level of governance & administration. “Leftist” ideology, neo-liberal corporatism, we can all disagree over the left right paradigm but its irrelevant left /right is a distraction so lets forget it for debates sake.

Sticking to basic ecological facts, what is a virus? A viruses ecological function (other than self propagation) is a natural population control mechanism (please don’t bring any subjective emotive connotation to the term population control) often causing short bursts of mass mortality events. The worst hit individuals of the population, are the sick (likely to soon die of other health issues) the elderly (Like it or not no one is immortal, everyone dies sometime) the aging process inevitably means a weakening immune system (hits individuals at different ages) its a simple fact. The young who may not have built an effective immune system to deal with the broad range of virus groups etc. But the biggest underlying factor whether you are hit hard or hardly notice infection is inherited genes. Yes your genetic code is what determines your survival, turns out ecology/evolution is like the lottery. This is what real diversity means, an homogeneous pot mixing every race isn’t either helpful or healthy its how nature works, isolated cultures/populations evolve differently aiding survival of the species when disease hits.

The real science understood helps us understand the virus. Of course an understanding of ecology doesn’t mean we just abandon our loved ones to luck of the draw. But we have to have a realistic view of the world & how things work. I will repeat myself again from birth every life owes a debt, the cost a death! We should measure that life in terms of quality rather than quantity. The only realistic solution to mitigating against the spread & overall effect of any virus “pandemic” is NATURAL immunity. Hiding from it can not & will not kill the virus. We have to face facts that modern technology causes many problems eg. international travel can spread a virus from one corner of the planet to another within hours! trying to play catch up with more and more technology isn’t a realistic solution with every level of tech creates future problems.

2. The solution to the way our technocracy has created this ideological panic-demic. From what i can see the only way to beat these neo-liberals is to play them at their own game. they make the rules & we are impotent ATM in changing them or making our own. We need a united army of individuals & organizations. There are many good people that are stepping forward & putting their heads above the parapet & many organization that are fighting this technocratic ideology, but alone they can not be successful, simply informing the public spreading the message wont work. The system has total control of the masses minds & use every level of administration to discredit or even cage any dissenter.

We need a metaphoric Bill gates/Foundation to lead, collaborate & unite free thinking free loving people to go to metaphorical war against the propaganda & corporations & use the system to bring them down. Perhaps an opponent of the WHO or UN, through crowd funding etc. Technocracy is driven by anonymous secretive groups so we follow the same model so Neo-liberals cant discredit individuals and have to address organizations. Funded through crowd funding, inviting professionals like academics, doctors, professors etc to collaborate via truly independent publishing & peer review. The simple fact is the only strength is in numbers we have to unite to win.

Yeah i’m only a dumb nature loving libertarian, I’m certain it wont be easy & its littered with problems & issues but we have to start somewhere before its to late. The only way we can combat their take over is building our own infrastructure of truth ( using real science not control mechanism like models) for our liberty. Other wise its eternal slavery to machines & technocrats.

Objective
Objective
May 7, 2020 1:30 PM
Reply to  Objective

I’m extremely grateful at least 2 people read my long winded post thanks very much.

Jason15
Jason15
May 7, 2020 2:30 PM
Reply to  Objective

Institute for Natural Law and Mises Institue both appear to be good candidates for leading the resistance to the technocrats, as well as Off Guardian!

As hard as it is for me to say this, we are beyond the level of reasoning with these people. They want one world government, the beast system, communitarianism – different terms same outcome, the enslavement of humanity in a post human world.

When you know that these proposed vaccines (if they use DNA/RNA editing) will permanently change your DNA then you know this is going to end up in conflict within 10 years and they’ve already planned in the expected “pushback” into the scenario.

Objective
Objective
May 7, 2020 5:26 PM
Reply to  Jason15

One thing i would highlight with your reply. Is that we have to stop asking our oppressors to stop oppressing us, evidently a futile request, so we have to stop hoping somehow they will reform, they wont, so we have to take action for ourselves & stop wasting time. As you say this is carefully thought out process they’ve been working on for decades we’re well behind.

I’m beginning to believe the internet & devices we’re always part of their surveillance plan, they just had to introduce it slowly & make it appear it was always our choice!

Watt
Watt
May 7, 2020 2:58 PM
Reply to  Objective

You propose a valuable process, non-violent and essentially above reproach, otherwise. There would seem to be more than a few credible virologists, epidemiologists etc. who might well join in. As ever, education is a key! Well put.

Codigo
Codigo
May 7, 2020 3:16 PM
Reply to  Objective

So while I agree with some of your general points, and there is currently a paradigm war going on between those who hold Electoral democracy as a key principle, and the Globalists who want Technocratic structure as they perceive electorates as not sophisticated enough to be allowed to make certain decisions.

However where i disagree with you, is the leftwing pigeonholing of the Globalist agenda. George Orwell was a Socialist, but in 1984 he describes as a nightmare a sort Authoritarian technocracy, which he clearly does not identify as Left-wing in any Marxist format.In Homage to Catalonia he spends last third of the book with a brilliant auto-critique on the nihilistic Stalin controlled Communist takeover of the Republican cause during Spanish Civil War. So genuine Socialists do promote democracy above all else. That can include very strong workers rights, even some nationalisation, the two are not mutually exclusive. So I think nuance is very important when we start putting people into rather umbrella categories, which confuses matters, and if we are to defeat this passive aggressive Authoritarianism we must be accurate.

Globalists and the Technocracy agenda are Centrists, because they are not anywhere near as ideological in those traditional terms, to a left or right dogma. However they use the straw-man of this being a right vs left conflict to confuse and cause division.

And the same can be said for much of the Trump support which also sees things in ridiculous black and whiter terms, absolutes. In fact both those sides are acting totalitarian in their narrative to this political tug of war. You are either with us or against us. It doesn’t sound any more intelligent coming from self proclaimed liberals than it did when George Bush Jr said it.

So i think people need to start actively challenging this binary face off narrative. Also i think you are giving the Technocrat agenda far too much credit of having succeeded. They haven’t, they have been rejected in a various referendums and elections. That is why they are sort of digging their heels in within NGOs. Its a sign of not getting traction in electorates.They lost the Brexit proxy war, they lost the second Brexit proxy war which was Boris Johnsons landslide GE victory. The EU is like an outlier or a symbol for that Technocracy dressed like faux democracy type movement.

But just to be more confusing, i think there are many good things about the EU. But while the Technocracy crazed folks are in control ,it should be rejected. They need to fully federalise and have EU wide elections etc…but they wont because the insiders are very happy with this best of both worlds for politicians, accountability, but they can virtue signal to their hearts content.

So their own contempt for democracy is obstacle for them gaining too much power. They are their own worst enemies. Remain defeated itself over 3 years or relentless project fear, a pone trick pony failure. and if yous we witness how the ECB has reacted in rage to being simply asked by German Supreme Court to justify in writing to the Bundesbank the thinking behind their reckless perma NIRP and bond buying spree. 110 tears later they are asked something very gently and they are now so drunk on power, they have lost self awareness, thrown their toys out of the pram, believing their own hype. Youc an see they are absolutely shocked at being asked to report to the “misguided” judgement (as the ECB sycophantic FT) described the German Surpreme. The language FT uses really exposes their total contempt for democratic or judicial accountability.

Lets them self implode they always do. But there’s no harm in giving them a helping hand on the way 🙂

Objective
Objective
May 7, 2020 5:37 PM
Reply to  Codigo

The point you miss is that Humans have evolved as manipulators. Evidently the likes of Bezos, Gates, Rockerfeller, et al. aren’t “leftist” or socialist. They create a pseudo leftist/socialist following within the system to achieve their goals. They manipulate the masses with a socialist ideals, they couldn’t do so by advocating libertarian-ism or conservative values, because globalism doesn’t fit that narrative .

I know socialists of many forms & ideals don’t like it but this lockup is right from a socialist handbook. Orwell wrote fiction, I don’t waste my time studying Marx, Trotsky, Deb or any other idealistic ghost of the past. The past is history old school socialists need to catch up quick.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 10:55 PM
Reply to  Codigo

‘Electoral democracy’??Oh, you mean BoJo,the Trumpster and ScoMo here in Austfailia. I feel ill, but at least I haven’t lost my sense of smell.

Binra
Binra
May 8, 2020 4:15 PM
Reply to  Objective

A virus does not have the agency of self propagation – or self-mutation but our mind can project ITS agenda onto anything. the cell that receives the virus replicates its own versions of similar or ‘mutated’ code. Living cells are innately symbiotic and this can only be lost to the loss of communication to a ‘locked-down’ strategy of survival running blind to the whole, that can become defended against its own healing or restoring to function. Symbiosis is a whole in all the parts and all the parts in the whole. We have no mental structure for representing or defining this – though it is of course our own true functional existence no matter what script we run. You can use 100% of your mind to generate the experience of being locked down in 0.1% of its capacity

Thinking on technological lines will only go so far as to realise its own limitations. For everything extends its founding premise. Where you choose to accept your cause or source of being is up to you. In other words you have free will and are not a slave to circumstance unless of course you so decide.

There are many and diverse points I might take up – but I note you end with a self-depreciation, a conviction of great difficulty to overcome and a sense of driven scarcity dictated by circumstance, dictating the ‘only way’ a collective ‘we’, can win a war – metaphorically or actually? – by building a ‘structure of truth’ (sic) in order to leverage freedom – all set against not just slavery to machine technocracy – but forever! – ( I don’t sense you choose ‘eternity’ for the timeless now beneath all seeming).

I hold that you are already that which truth can and will flow through, and in receiving and extending that will grow a consciousness from a foundation free of war. I am speaking of both a love of truth and the truth of love as one.

You cannot unite with your brother and sister from a divided and conflicted self.
Fear can never unite without an enemy or target to hate and will collapse without one into the mess it seeks to deny in others.

But you can recognise the simple fact of your own unified and unifying purpose and desire if you give truth its due instead of making it into your weapon.

The opportunity to recognise we cant do it alone – is not a compulsion to lockstep with other ‘self-isolators’ but to break the state of isolation. truth is not a possession or control but an extended quality, reflected and shared in. You have to give what you would receive – and self-depreciation stands simply in the way with all the reasons why not.

Freedom and rights go hand in hand. If we seek permission for the right to be ourself, we give power away. How to be true to yourself in this or any situation is not about lording it over anyone – even Bill Gates even metaphorically. That others seem to lord it, is the power others give them and which they take as their own. The power to be the truth of yourself is your inalienable right. Bill and others may seek to get your consent to use you for their agenda – perhaps through the backdoor of your attempt to do likewise?

Borncynic
Borncynic
May 7, 2020 12:58 PM

Just been announced here in Scotland that martial law is to continue (presumably up to the statutory limit of 3 weeks till the next review). Johnston will likely follow suit to a large extent now the customary dry run in North of the wall has been tested out. At a time when other countries have started to give up the ghost, forced to in large part due to civil unrest, we show ourselves to be some of the most supine cowards on this planet.

Grafter
Grafter
May 7, 2020 2:40 PM
Reply to  Borncynic

Sturgeon playing to the brain damaged BBC/SKY TV watchers. The demise of the SNP is inevitable following their behaviour aping and playing the I know better card based on fraudulent statistics and recommendations. I gave up any hope of Scotland gaining its independence under these cardboard politicians.

John Pretty
John Pretty
May 7, 2020 10:17 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Well if it does become a republic there is a good chance it will be a very oppressive one. Scots will be wanting to go back to the UK.

There isn’t enough support for it among Scots anyway. Opinion in Scotland has always been divided on the issue, but the diehards won’t accept that, of course.

Willem
Willem
May 7, 2020 12:50 PM

‘ Dr Wolfgang Wodarg urges everyone to address their own, local, people’s representatives. And to appeal to their sense of responsibility.’

Agreed and as far as I am concerned, it’s working, but only when you consider those who believe in the lunacy as mad and treat them as such, kindly but firmly, showing them the exit of the ghost house.

Some are quite stubborn cases though, but as long as you can keep your rationality, your temper, and patience, you will be succesful.

What also helps is that we have the truth on our sides, while they can only hide in the madness of the crowds.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 7, 2020 12:37 PM

And according to the President of Tanzania, John Magufuli, tests done using imported Covid19 test kits on, wait for it, pawpaw, a goat, a bird and engine oil confirmed that, indeed, they All had positive tests to the virus!
Imagine – a pawpaw having Covid19. Sorta put me off them now.
The video of his speech was posted at John Steppling’s Facebook page. I noticed the very next day, so predictably, that craven, presstitute mouthpiece, the BBC came out with a hit piece on Magufuli.
I watched this entire interview, and I much appreciate Dr Wodarg standing up for rationality and the truth, as John Ioannidis has, as Judy Mikovits has, as Doctors Erikson and Massihi have, as Knut Wittkowski has, along with many others.
All relentlessly smeared and demonised by the bastards pushing this, along with the filth media and the army of gutless paid trolls. And the lobotimised liberal snowflakes of course. The role of the MSM has been especially outrageous.
I noted Dr Wodarg’s thoughts on Mr Vaccine Man himself: “Bill Gates is crazy, he is crazy”. Yes Wolfgang, I think a lot of us would agree with you there.
And even as sane, questioning, highly informative articles and videos appear here, elsewhere in cyberspace, the censorship is on a par with a South American dictatorship, circa 1974.
The interview with Judy Mikovits has been repeatedly deleted by the YouTube Stasi, and yet people who downloaded it keep reposting it. Excellent.

clickkid
clickkid
May 7, 2020 12:46 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Goats now have to wear masks and pawpaws can only be grown 2 metres apart.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 7, 2020 12:53 PM
Reply to  clickkid

😵🤣… Ha ha, someone at Who would demand it. No exemptions, not even for goats!

Ort
Ort
May 7, 2020 7:45 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

FWIW, yesterday I sent a fellow Megadeath Virus Narrative of Doom skeptic a link to the “Plandemic” interview with Judy Mikovits. The recipient has leftist/contrarian inclinations, but at heart is a moderate who is squeamish about revelations and exposés that “go too far”.

He promptly e-mailed me to say that he’d watched the video, and was freaked out– I think “gobsmacked” is the UK equivalent; he said he was still “digesting” the content and implications.

Last night he sent me a follow-up e-mail captioned “The Other Side”. It contained a link to a blog called “Respectful Insolence”, which I’m not providing. It featured a commentary screamingly headlined “Judy Mikovits in Plandemic: An antivax conspiracy theorist becomes a COVID-19 grifter”. My friend’s recommendation warned that the author was “a little snide”, which somewhat cagily or disingenuously impled that he thought this would-be rebuttal had some merit.

I skimmed through some of it, but what my friend found “a little snide” was more like fulminating, vituperative rancor; it reminded me of the anti-“Truther” reactionaries in the years following the still-mysterious attacks of September 11, 2001, who furiously and bumptiously condemned anyone skeptical of the preposterous official/conventional narrative as a deranged “tinfoil-hatter”. I dubbed them “Trutherphobes”.

Anyway, I bring it up because it was clearly a scurrilous hit piece, not to mention a spittle-flecked Trutherphobic rant. I think my well-intentioned friend pounced upon it because he needed something to settle a stomach that had been inflamed by his attempt to digest the Awful Truth.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 7, 2020 8:57 PM
Reply to  Ort

So basically, Ort, the counter-argument is the ubiquitous ad hom smear job…as we’ve witnessed with Drs Erickson/Massihi, Julian Assange, Ian Henderson + colleague (OPCW). It’s becoming a rather tedious m.o. used to defend official narratives and people must realise that it is becoming somewhat transparent. About time they actually came up with substantive refutations rather than puerile personal insults and hypocritical allegations about their integrity. But of course, for obvious reasons, they can’t.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 7, 2020 11:11 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

And many of these people doing the smears and demonising Judy claim to be ‘left wing’ or progressive’.
Their hypocrisy is jaw dropping actually.
About the 3rd upload of that Judy Mikovits interview on YouTube, the comments section was inundated with people screaming abuse and deriding her comments as ‘fake news’ and sticking the boot into people who supported what JM was saying.
YouTube has since turned off the comments.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 7, 2020 11:25 PM
Reply to  Ort

The World has been turned upside down Ort. People, by their very political stance, who should be loudly condemning this blatant, repulsive censorship, and removal of civil liberties, and yes… Fascism, are cheering it on, and smearing and yelling down anyone who questions what has happened in the last 2 months.
This has stunned me, and that they have fully bought into the MSM fear porn is…. I just can’t explain it. Perhaps it’s to do with their own fear of death?
I’m down here in Australia by the way.
The fear by the Aussie media has been ramped up to ridiculous, OTT levels, as it has right across the West.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 8, 2020 9:58 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

On a personal level I had a distinct glimmer of hope yesterday, G. An elderly acquaintance of mine has always mocked me for my alternative, anti-MSM views. So of course when I spoke to him early on about this Covid19 business I knew I wouldn’t get very far but nevertheless made the effort to reason with him diplomatically. As anticipated my efforts came in for the expected humorous ‘banter’.

I haven’t spoken to him for a couple of weeks (I usually only ring him every two or three weeks as a matter of routine and he lives down in Somerset so I don’t see him in person) but yesterday, completely out of the blue, he sent me a ’round robin’ email forwarding the Peter Drew letter to Jacinda Ardern, (pointing out most of the questionable aspects of the reaction to ‘the pandemic’). I had already seen the letter via OffG but was encouraged to see that it was clearly being widely circulated and forwarded on even in this country. (As an aside, don’t know if you noticed, but it might have been presented better if Drew had spelt Ardern’s name correctly!)

So maybe the message is getting through even to those for whom we thought there was little hope. I shall ring him today and thank him for the email and see what else he has to say. But it goes to show that we must never give up.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 8, 2020 10:57 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

Thanks Judy. I didn’t even know about the Peter Drew letter, and read it just then. Excellent indeed, tho I almost found myself wishing he had’ve also linked to Swiss Propaganda Research or John Ioannidis or Knut Wittkowski, etc.
I did a Google search for that PD letter, and on the whole first page – just one entry for it. I wonder why?
By the way, despite lots of glowing coverage in the international media, Jacinda Ardern is basically a New Zealand version of Tony Blair (or Keir Stammer) – she is another Neoliberal ideolgue, as nearly all NZ politicians are.
Speaking of our ‘new order’ did a Google search for that Plandemic Hidden Agenda documentary early today, and the whole first page of searches was full of demonising and smearing of Judy Mikovits who was interviewed. The words ‘conspiracy theory’ featured prominently.
Even worse, YouTube have put up a new video with Exactly the Same title as the original Documentary, and you get a couple seconds of Judy Mikovits dimmed out face, then this screeching celebrity male doctor comes onscreen absolutely ripping the Documentary to bits, saying its garbage and rubbish, and really sticking the boot into Judy Mikovits character calling her a theif and a conspiracy nut, etc.
It was sickening.
We do not live in a democracy anymore.
All pretenses of that have been blown out of the water. We have full blown censorship that General Pinochet would have been proud of.
Okay, my dinner is getting cold: crumbed chicken with macaroni cheese, peas and corn in a bbq sauce and some sourdough bread.
I found about 6 partly used supermarket gift cards in my drawers that my mag customers had given me for Christmas the last few years, so lashed out on some decent food! Have a good day J….

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 7, 2020 12:30 PM

Off topic: Venezuela

‘Maduro: 2 captured US citizens will be judged by Venezuela’s court’ Press TV.

‘Venezuelan President, Nicolas Maduro, says the two Americans captured during a mercenary attack on the country will be tried.’

Reg
Reg
May 7, 2020 2:18 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)
paul
paul
May 8, 2020 12:22 AM
Reply to  jack(jim)

More inimitable bargain basement bungling from the Buffoon-In Chief.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 7, 2020 12:07 PM

If the UK had any sense it would introduce legislation to block foreign take overs of vulnerable companies during what will be the worst depression in it’s history, otherwise they are might wake up, after the devastation, as a powerless tenant in a 100% foreign owed country.

gordon
gordon
May 7, 2020 12:47 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

are you kidding that is the point of the plan
everything must go sale of the century
the child fiddlers of westminster are run controlled by international interests.

boris is a donmeh turk khazar satanist born like crook churchill in new york.

boris and his stooges are just the front men for the coming rape and pillage

cents on the dollar pennies in the pound

the law of the jungle i that imperial guy you know the origin of the species said it dog eat dog who dares wins winners mainly losers ground into dust

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 7, 2020 11:48 PM
Reply to  gordon

Knowing that was the plan is why I proposed the defence.

Alan Tench
Alan Tench
May 7, 2020 2:44 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

And I wonder which foreign country will own the lion’s share? China? No, surely not!

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 7, 2020 11:47 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

Who has handed it’s corporation 6 trillion in gifts and loans?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 10:58 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

That’s the idea behind Brexit-a full US takeover. Bye-bye NHS.

elsewhere
elsewhere
May 7, 2020 11:29 AM

The biggest revelation in this excellent video (from someone in the know): most, if not all, European governments have secret contracts with big pharma which stipulate that if WHO declares a pandemic certain measures in the contract must be implemented…

That explains a lot, doesn’t it? As Dr. Wodarg wryly comments: “It’s much cheaper to bribe ministers than to have to bribe every doctor”.

In other words: all our politicians are on the take…

What are we going to do about it? People say: next election, but will there be a next election?

Philippe
Philippe
May 7, 2020 11:39 AM
Reply to  elsewhere

People say: next election, but will there be a next election?

I believe it’s worse than that. All the next election will achieve is to reinstall this lot of liars, or replace them with a different lot of liars (remember the Labour shadow minister’s claims of working in the London Nightingale hospital, spending all day telling relatives their loved ones had died?).

Different shit; same smell.

Thom
Thom
May 7, 2020 1:30 PM
Reply to  Philippe

Yes, there will be an election. That is a vital part of the charade to keep the many conned – either wallowing in their pride at living a in a democracy (ho, ho) or else frightened/embarrassed to admit they backed the wrong horse and are in the ‘minority’. This has been the Conservative Party’s tactic ever since the Brexit referendum in the UK and has notably accelerated since their very suspect general election ‘landslide’ in December.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 7, 2020 1:20 PM
Reply to  elsewhere

What you need to understand is that the controlled opposition pushes out masses of truth. I’ve probably learnt vastly more about how the world is run from controlled opposition than from genuine commentators. Very ironic, no? They’re not afraid of the truth, elsewhere, they use it to control the narrative so that truth is out there but only to the degree and framed in such a way that it is ineffectual and distracts from the pivotal truth. They guide the genuine opposition into simply wasting their time and energy pointing out all the anomalies in the story instead of calling this farce out for what it really is, a psyop. Wodarg pushes “conspiracy of scientists”. This is nonsense. This is very similar to the propaganda pushing Israel being responsible for 9/11. Of course, some scientists are involved in this conspiracy, for sure, just as Israel was involved in 9/11 but they are not primarily responsible. This conspiracy has been initiated obviously at a higher level and it involves many players. It blows one’s mind how much truth controlled opposition pushes out but it makes sense because while doing it they still manage to control everything. I mean, they told us very, very clearly at the opening ceremony of the London Olympics about what’s happening now. They told us right in our faces but how many people are going along with this farce? It has an unstoppable momentum.

It is a fallacy to think that the best approach to exposing what’s happening is to simply refer to the scientific side, numbers and experts and the like. One should discuss ALL the evidence available, whatever’s there, to expose what this “event” really is, not just what experts say, whether they are genuine or controlled opposition and the “scientific side”.

Very important evidence is in the clues and signs they give us: the aforementioned presaging at the London olympics, the complete absence of convincing evidence in the alleged sufferers shown to us by the media, the nonsense patients falling down flat on their faces, etc. The clues and signs are evidence and there is no reason not to discuss them and put them forward as such. These pieces of evidence are not to be pooh-poohed in favour of “experts”. It is these clues and signs by which we can instantly recognise exactly what this event is. Instantly.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
May 7, 2020 11:18 AM

‘Wodarg first came to the attention of the general public in the 1980s when he was head of the Public Health Department (German: Gesundheitsamt) in Flensburg, Germany, and as such was (technically) responsible for employing as a doctor the medical impostor Gert Postel, later famously revealed to be a postman by training.[19]’

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
May 7, 2020 11:19 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

‘Transparency International Germany, on whose board of directors Wodarg serves, distanced itself from his statements on 17 March 2020’

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 11:00 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Transparency International!!! Alarm-bells ringeth.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
May 7, 2020 11:21 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

‘the reason for this was that Wodarg had expressed his views on “radical media” such as KenFM, Rubikon, Geolitico, and in an interview with Eva Herman; all of “which regularly work with conspiracy theories, with anti-democratic and sometimes anti-Semitic prejudices” and “oppose the basic democratic principles of Transparency”; while “some of them are personally close to the AfD”.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 7, 2020 12:52 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Whenever one sees the very cliched and tired expression “conspiracy theory” one thinks some party not acting in the best interest of the general public is attempting to stop inquiry, investigation, democratic discussion and debate.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
May 7, 2020 1:07 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

I would pay more attention to the AfD reference- which tells me its Bannon and the Atlantic Bridgers and same peeps ad our own Yaxley-Lenon and their crypto fascist brexiteers…

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 7, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Thank you.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 7, 2020 1:23 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

You’re just being wilfully pig ignorant and obstinate for the sake of it, and refusing to look at the evidence that all these medical professionals are actually providing.
Did you actually watch this interview, or the other interviews of Dr Wodarg? Did you even check out UK Coloumn?
Oh, wait, of course you didn’t. Wouldn’t want your set in stone beliefs challenged in any way, would you? Would that be too uncomfortable for you to handle Dun?
Waiting for your smears on John Ioannidis and Knut Wittkowski. Or did I miss those already? You’re just echoing the smears of the MSM.
Perhaps you should apply for a job at The Guardian. Oh, and FYI, I don’t deny the virus exists.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 9, 2020 2:51 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

The burden of proof that the virus exists lies upon those who assert that it does exist.

I’ve not seen any yet. Just statements that it does, or that it must do.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 9, 2020 3:20 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

I’ve gone by what people like John Ioannidis, Sucharit Bhakdi, Knut Wittkowski, and others have said.
My personal opinion is it does exist, but has been grotesquely blown out of all proportion by the filth media – and there has been a lot of bullshit and dishonesty with how the mortality rates have been arrived at, to make Covid19 appear much worse than what it is.
People dying of heart attacks or strokes or other things being counted as dying from Covid19 because the virus was present at the time of death.
And then there’s the huge questions about the accuracy of the test kits. I mean – a bird, engine oil, pawpaw testing positive.
Given everything I’ve read here, and elsewhere I don’t believe it’s a ‘hoax’ or ‘fake’.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
May 7, 2020 11:22 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

No flies on him eh?

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
May 7, 2020 2:06 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

and?

Reg
Reg
May 7, 2020 10:55 AM

Looking at the buggy code behind that rat Ferguson’s covid drug trip. And the code they’ve released to Github is a fiddled version of what Imperial used to hallucinate about millions and millions of deaths. Shades of NIST’s fuckery with their model for Building 7.

https://www.targetliberty.com/2020/05/how-billions-of-people-got-scammed-by.html

Reg
Reg
May 7, 2020 10:39 AM

Lincoln goes back to NYC Langone for the 7pm performance by the Brain-Dead Morons. This time he whips out a tape measure to see if the “distancing” diktat is being followed. He causes some annoyance among the dog-muzzled zombies. If this is the fucking human race, I want out.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 7, 2020 12:28 PM
Reply to  Reg

Exactly how I feel. It’s utterly surreal.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 7, 2020 4:10 PM
Reply to  Reg

Love the three nurses clustered around the smartphone, and all the clapping idiots in scrubs who are clearly only inches apart from one another. Another day of ‘do as I say, not as I do’.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 9, 2020 3:01 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

And the group of men who line up (presumably for photos) with their arms round each other.

molloy
molloy
May 7, 2020 10:33 AM

A broader picture of neoliberal deceit re “prevention” over at moon of alabama.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/05/there-is-no-glory-in-prevention.html#more

“I think the term “prevention” is being rather abused here.

Actual prevention would have been to not have continued with the campaigns of ecocidal and mass-murdering destruction such as globalization, deforestation, industrial agriculture and the many other campaigns which in addition to their many other evils work assiduously to uncover and globally distribute every pathogen on Earth, generate the most favorable terrain for these pathogens, while simultaneously rendering every society as dependent, tenuous and vulnerable as possible.

Prevention-minded governments also wouldn’t have deliberately and systematically worked to turn themselves into death machines of economic exploitation, militarism and police statism while working to destroy all human community and atomize and massify the people as much as possible.

When any epidemic such as this bug* is put in that context, anything governments do is going to be at best a band-aid on what was already a severed jugular. Of course far more often anything they do is going to have zero value for public health. That of course is exactly what any minimally-informed rational person would expect, since any such person already knows for a fact that governments do not care about public health, that most of their actions are destructive of public health, and that especially in the West they have worked systematically to destroy their health care systems from the point of view of any consideration except that of profit and power.

Therefore we know that anything they do about the media-driven Corona epidemic is going to be only a mixture of incompetence, stupidity, and ulterior evil motives, with the ratio perhaps varying from country to country but always only that mix. And that’s how it’s been and that’s how it will continue until the people’s inertia changes and we put a stop to it, or all be destroyed forever by totalitarianism.

*And everything I just wrote is assuming for the sake of argument that the bug did have a “natural” origin and was merely uncovered and distributed by the economic civilization. If the bug instead was engineered in a lab and then released deliberately or through the usual “accidents”, that only amplifies every single point of this analysis. We know these labs are working on exactly such bugs, which again doubly proves the lunacy and evil of these systems.

Posted by: Russ | May 6 2020 21:09 utc | 18


(end of quote)

Kalen
Kalen
May 7, 2020 1:14 PM
Reply to  molloy

MOA went mad, acts totalitarian, censorship is rampant, all dissent is banned. Pages are filled with unequivocal support and defense of any governments measures from face masks, social distancing, lockdowns until vaccine is developed, to digital contact tracing, to medical passports with no shred of criticism of epidemiological or medical efficacy or legality of such socioeconomically devastating measures.

B proclaimed himself arbiter of truth on crusade against supposed conspiracy theories that repudiate official propaganda narratives.

It is sad to see formerly formidable investigative analyst Skeptic in Chief relentlessly questioning official government and MSM narratives from Ukraine , to Iran, Syria or Skripal affair to name few, self emasculating, destroying MOA legacy of rational thought and hard analysis of data devoid of emotional bias.

Early this year MOA told his fellow bloggers not to panic. It is time he listen to himself for once.

molloy
molloy
May 7, 2020 2:41 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Concurred.
Indeed, the ‘blogger’ quaintly disguised as ‘m of a’!!

Again. Russ’s unexpurgated comment.
“Therefore we know that anything they do about the media-driven Corona epidemic is going to be only a mixture of incompetence, stupidity, and ulterior evil motives, with the ratio perhaps varying from country to country but always only that mix. And that’s how it’s been and that’s how it will continue until the people’s inertia changes and we put a stop to it, or all be destroyed forever by totalitarianism.”

In passing.
Please note my earlier post (…a local and very abusive by-product of the evil) observing, in person, HerEfordshire Unitary Council gauleiters intimidating children and pad-locking play areas. Preventing children playing damages immune systems and psychologically harms.
Crimes against the public (as are war crimes too).
Criminal conduct by unauthorised, fake-elected sociopaths in imprisoning children, severely risking their health and ignoring their basic human rights.

It is true. The venal and morally compromised “few” along with their sociopathic facilitators–acting under orders–are more than content to intimidate confuse divide and distract. With constant msm-BBC mendacious drivel & panic-manipulation re perceived health ailments, no attention is paid to ongoing deliberate impoverishment & humiliation of the public triggered by constant war atrocities.

Educating the puppet masters and the UK regime’s corrupt, useful idiots, sadly, seems to be impossible.
Angry? Yes, of course!!

RobG
RobG
May 7, 2020 4:35 PM
Reply to  Kalen

This ‘Covid economic collapse’ has revealed much of the so-called ‘alternate media’ for what they really are. The mask is rapidly coming off.

And the iron hand is rapidly coming down.

Kevin
Kevin
May 7, 2020 5:20 PM
Reply to  RobG

A long time ago, 9/11 had already revealed most of the “alternative media” for what they are.

bob
bob
May 7, 2020 10:29 AM

mark sedwill on a plate

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2020/05/07/exclusive-mark-sedwill-the-halo-trust-conflicts-of-interest-covert-intelligence/

come on, who likes sedwill and sees his total roles in government as problematic?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 7, 2020 10:08 AM

Hair salon owner jailed after she refuses to “apologize for defying duly elected officials” when she says her employees are struggling to feed their children.

Here is the statement of Dallas judge Eric Moye: “[do] you now see the error of your ways and understand that the society cannot function when one’s own belief in a concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials, that you owe an apology to the duly elected officials whom you disrespected by flagrantly ignoring and in one case defiling their orders which you now know obviously apply to you, that you understand that the proper way in an ordered society to engage concern that you may have is to hire a lawyer.”

Note Judge Moye says ‘a‘ not ‘the’ concept of liberty. Significant.

Salon Owner Shelley Luther responded thus, and was jailed for seven days:
“Judge, I would like to say that I have much respect for this court and laws, that I have to disagree with you, sir, when you say that I’m ‘selfish,’ because feeding my kids is not selfish. I have hair stylists that are going hungry because they’d rather feed their kids. So, sir, if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision, but I am not going to shut the salon.”

It’s worth hearing the tone of the Judge’s statement here: https://youtu.be/DwMBtltVHZ4?t=332

ame
ame
May 7, 2020 11:36 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

in the u,.k one cannot record the court room even a tribunal case even with the information for the hearing one gets now they including the judge tribunal staff etc have to make sure all recording equipment is switched of including GOOGLE -ALEXA etc

Objective
Objective
May 7, 2020 1:14 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

How the Americans (with their constitution) ever allowed this corruption of the judicial system is frankly both incredible & distressing It doesn’t bode well for the rest of us.

The neo-liberal rules based society has already taken over in America, Americans just don’t know it yet. One word Clinton.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 7, 2020 1:34 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I tend to suspect these sorts of things as being staged to encourage compliance but this one looks real. Good on her. Sorry she has to pay the price in jail.

Philippe
Philippe
May 7, 2020 1:41 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The problem we have in the UK is that the judiciary can only judge what is legal; not what is right. Bad laws (and sentencing guidelines) make bad judgements inevitable. Plus, justice is expensive.

Having said that, I would like to think I’d be very surprised if a Judge in the UK resorted to instructing a defendant to apologise to ‘duly elected officials’ for disrespecting them, before sentencing. Then again, I could be wrong.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 11:14 PM
Reply to  Philippe

‘Justice’ in the USA and UK is a sad, sick, joke. Unaffordable but for the rich, who use it to terrorise others, as with SLAPPs, overseen by ‘judges’ drawn from the hereditary elite, with a few upthrusting proles added occasionally for hybrid vigour. ‘Judges’ who make up the law as they go along, according to ‘precedent’ ie the property-based class law of centuries past. Picking and choosing ‘precedent’ according to their ideology. Then ‘judgments’ are often set aside by more senior ‘judges’ as if the lower courts are idiots, then, sometimes, reversed again by even higher tribunals. Add to that the bias shown in appointing judges according to their political ideology, open in the USA, clandestine in the UK, Austfailia etc, and the further idiocy of elected judges, and you get the ‘Rule of Law’ in all its propagandistic majesty.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The judge is an idiot, the salon owner ‘collateral damage’. Perhaps Blackstone will buy her business, on the cheap of course.

molloy
molloy
May 7, 2020 9:42 AM

Thank you.
Re. bullying/intimidation of children in Ledbury & padlocking gates to children’s skate parks-playgrounds (personally witnessed by me).

As with Judy M video, Protocol Prelim.Warning now forwarded to the local neo-fascist toy “town council”.

7.5.2020

To (names withheld)
Ledbury Town Council

“Acting Under Orders” is no defence.

Warning of Possible Class Action in Public Law.
Refrain from bullying/intimidation of minors and the public in Ledbury.
Failing which you personally will be answerable in court for human rights abuses.

Thank you.

Essential information (full video)
https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/07/watch-corona-crisis-what-really-happened-and-how-to-learn-from-it/

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
May 7, 2020 9:38 AM

I just donated to this campaign to challenge the UK Govt. Please chip in if you can (and agree with the case)!

molloy
molloy
May 7, 2020 2:58 PM
Reply to  Toby Russell

Perhaps I’ve been misinformed.

English law, public law, is obliged to provide full legal aid (competent, non-controlled LR if such available in the UK?)) funding and full costs indemnity. Particularly where group/class action claimants represent upwards of 90% of the UK public. And 100% of those under 18.

It is the UK state which must fund & indemnify the legal battle against this outrage. Not the public (via “crowd-funding”).

What do I know?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 7, 2020 9:26 AM

Dr Wolfgang Wodarg makes out who are most responsible for the crime are people who are not – blaming scientists is similar propaganda to blaming Israel for 9/11 – sure, they’re involved but they are not ultimately responsible. The crime being committed against us has NOT been initiated by scientists and any moron can work that out.

It is much more scientific to say what this crime against us is rather than constantly pointing out what it isn’t. If we didn’t know what it was, then fair enough we would be limited to pointing out what it isn’t but all the information is at our fingertips to know exactly what it is, namely, a Trauma-based Mind Control Psychological Operation where no evidence exists to support the hypothesis that there is illness beyond the ordinary and where much evidence exists that supports the hypothesis that there is no illness beyond the ordinary.

We all need a much better education in propaganda. I came across this interesting paper written back in 1976 where experiments show that where distraction is present people will be more easily persuaded of a more easily counter-argued argument than where the situation involves a less easily counter-argued argument.
https://www.academia.edu/8966537/Distraction_can_enhance_or_reduce_yielding_to_propaganda_Thought_disruption_versus_effort_justification

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 11:16 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

But Israel WAS responsible for 9/11.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 8, 2020 1:19 AM

So you swallowed the Dancing Israelis, the roadblock with explosive dust and the Israeli “art” students with all the big boxes on the 90th? 91st? floor holding some kind of equipment connected to bombing or something like that, too, Richard? I blush. Yes, I remember thinking, “I get it. They used Israelis for the dastardly deed of actually bringing the buildings down to kill those poor people because they’re outsiders. Using US citizens is just too close to home for such a dastardly deed.”

And that’s EXACTLY what they wanted us to think with their Dancing Israelis, etc. As if Mossad agents are going to give themselves away in such a fashion. It’s preposterous – and quite hilarious – but I swallowed it too, lock, stock and barrel.

The thing is, even if they did bring down the buildings you could never consider them “responsible” as whatever happened it was all under the auspices of the US government (not just the Republicans within the Bush administration, Democrats were involved too – every man and his dog was in on 9/11 – they just never open their mouths about it – amazing!). Even when I believed the Israeli propaganda and that they brought down the buildings I didn’t consider Israel ultimately responsible.

And, of course, it don’t matter who brought the buildings down: Mossad, the CIA, or the Loizeaux demolition company who removed the rubble (I favour them), it makes no difference because all three buildings at the WTC, not just WTC-7, were completely evacuated. And that is the pivotal truth of 9/11.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 7, 2020 9:25 AM

Covid was a classic burning down of the Reichstag by the far-right, with the intention of blaming the ‘communists’, or in this case our weak and gulible democracies.
The deep state, the rogue security agencies and the military are staging a slow rolling coup to destroy our democracies and we are all falling for it.
Yes they are useless yes they are easily misled and manipulated but they are all we have between us and the barrel of a fascist rifle. The simple fact that the CIA still stage these operations tells us that the security services, and their backers in the military are not yet all powerful and there is still opposition somewhere in our establishment.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 7, 2020 9:04 AM

How many middle class functionaries actually do anything useful for a living? Seriously, you’d think the employers would be screaming. OTOH if the company can pay them to sit at home, doing the bare minimum, for a second month in a row, that suggests that not much has changed. That it’s business as usual. https://www.strike.coop/bullshit-jobs/
Haven’t seen much reporting on this in the UK – one poster here said plumbers are mostly working as usual. Dribs and drabs are leaking out of the U.S. and small business is indeed screaming. Small business owners get paid directly for what they do and they are getting restless. Like this guy who was arrested for doing an interview at his store. Media still misrepresented his story, he says: http://www.apextattoofactory.com/
Aid for small business is only just getting underway. May 4th: UK banks say coronavirus relief slowed by lack of full state loan guarantees (Reuters) May 6th: Overlooked small businesses are finally getting federal loans (LAT) Meanwhile Coal Snags $31 Million in U.S. Stimulus Loans for Small Business(WaPo)

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 7, 2020 9:28 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Loans just in-debt companies for the banks to pull the plug later. This is what RBS did to a large number of viable companies in the UK following the 2008 recession.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 8:59 AM

I suspect that ‘Wodarg’ is simply a BigPharma agent used to attack hydroxychloroquine behind a facade of CoVid 19 scepticism. The idea that 10-20% of African have ‘favism’ and treatment with HCQ is bizarre. These people are being treated, and the treatment is, supposedly, killing them, but no-one cares, no-one reports it, and other medications are not used? So, people with G6PD deficiency must not be given HCQ. Simples.’Wodarg’s’ implicit assertion that the WHO will be giving HCQ to those with known contraindications, plainly, being controlled by China, oblivious to human suffering, is as despicable as it is preposterous. As for all the others who do not suffer this condition, the treatment, proved in numerous tests and studies already, is safe and highly efficacious.

Magnus
Magnus
May 7, 2020 8:47 AM

Somebody posted a link a few days ago which basically proposed that excess “covid-19” deaths in certain countries could easily be explained by old people dying from pollution-caused diseases (especially the high Wuhan and Lombardy death tolls), so I had a look around.

European Environment Agency – “Air Quality in Europe 2015”:

3 times more people are estimated to have died from air pollution in Italy 2012, than from this supposed Covid-19 this year. 85000 est. premature deaths in Italy in that year, 524,000 in the whole of Europe (only!). For UK the estimate is over 50,000 – in one year.

https://www.thelocal.it/20151130/italy-highest-in-eu-for-pollution-linked-deaths
https://www.eea.europa.eu/publications/air-quality-in-europe-2015/at_download/file (see page 44 for estimated deaths) (There’s a new report with slightly lower estimates)

Gerrard White
Gerrard White
May 7, 2020 8:51 AM
Reply to  Magnus

very good information, thanks for this

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 9:01 AM
Reply to  Magnus

Comparing three months with an entire year might be said to be being a bit impetuous.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 7, 2020 9:31 AM
Reply to  Magnus

It is not totally clear but it looks to me like the Covid operation is only huge in US dependent states, like Europe and the 5 eyes group, the rest of the world apart form China, are not that affected. Correct me if I am wrong.

Frances
Frances
May 7, 2020 10:41 AM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Australia, Canada, New Zealand are part of the 5-eyes surveillance system reporting to NSA.

Magnus
Magnus
May 7, 2020 10:52 AM
Reply to  Magnus

Estimated deaths from air pollution (don’t ask me about the model they used 🙂

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Guy
Guy
May 7, 2020 7:48 AM

Great video. I looked up G6PD and their website states that Chloroquine (and Vit C) are safe, but other drugs are dangerous. Can Dr Wodarg check that Chloroquine is dangerous, because otherwise it is a great treatment for coronavirus.
https://www.g6pd.org/en/G6PDDeficiency/ResearchPapers/Beutler_01.aspx#tab2

Frances
Frances
May 7, 2020 10:42 AM
Reply to  Guy

Look up work of Prof. Dr Didier Raoult and his team in France. Treatment needs to be used in early stages.

Guy
Guy
May 7, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  Frances

Yes, I know of Dr Raoult and other successful uses of Chloroquine, which is why I am surprised by the G6PD risk. Not seen that in the data, so suspect Chloroquine is not a risk to these people.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 11:23 PM
Reply to  Guy

First I’ve heard of it, but BigPharma is discovering new dangers of HCQ every day, despite it being used by tens of millions for decades.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 7, 2020 11:22 PM
Reply to  Frances

In South Korea it is being used post exposure and prophylactically for those at risk of exposure. The Chinese noted that people taking HCQ for lupus etc, were not getting CoViD19, and they had experience of successful treatment of SARS back in 2002-3 with chloroquine, and HCQ is even safer. Spain, too, Greece, a success story apparently, for reasons unmentionable etc, etc. The suppression of early treatment with HCQ etc, by BigPharma and its stooges, is a tale of extraordinary control and human wickedness.

Reg
Reg
May 7, 2020 7:02 AM

Some light relief

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
May 7, 2020 9:02 AM
Reply to  Reg

That guy looks so like Simon Pegg I have to ask: Is it Simon Pegg?

Great stuff!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 7, 2020 10:27 AM
Reply to  Reg

“But this new data is irrelevant because, like, I already made up my mind when I was the most frightened, and a I’m going to keep believing what makes me the most frightened because it just feels more congruent my being that way.
“I also spend a lot of time looking for information that they shoved in my face, that confirms my existing beliefs. There’s nothing like a little confirmation bias to help my mind continue to learn and expand. I’m also really good at believing the Covid death count.”

Willem
Willem
May 7, 2020 12:58 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

‘ I’m also really good at believing the Covid death count.’

Yeah, and I am also very good in dismissing the fact that the number of influenza deaths in 2018 was actually higher for influenza than for Covid. I just say, they haven’t counted all the Covid cases, so it is an underestimate, after which I can happily continue to self-isolate.

Never mind the fact tha