The REAL meaning behind Dominic Cummings breaking lockdown
From Ferguson to Cuomo to Cummings, the high profile Lockdown violations show the establishment don’t believe their own hype
Kit Knightly
The debate today is whether Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson’s Chief Advisor, should resign, or not. Whether he broke the lockdown rules, or even the law. Whether his trip was justified or if there was some perfidiousness behind it.
Mostly, they miss the vitally important point.
The same was true when Neil Ferguson – main author of the Imperial Model, and consequently the lockdown – was found to be breaking lockdown with his married girlfriend.
The press divided between the lockdown enthusiasts defending him, or the anti-lockdowners eagerly calling him a hypocrite.
Both, again, were missing the point.
Yes, it’s satisfying to cast people down for being hypocrites. Yes, it’s easy to conduct witchhunts based on shallow issues against people whose politics we disagree with. But to take part in the free-for-all is to endorse a distraction that actually reinforces the narrative, and misses the fundamentally more important issue at the root of it.
We’re all meant to be “sheltering in place” and “protecting the NHS” and “saving lives” because there is a “deadly virus”. We’re being told this is for our own safety. Because the virus is allegedly dangerous.
When the people giving us these orders do not follow them themselves, they are not showing themselves to be “hypocrites”. They are showing themselves to be liars. They are admitting they don’t really believe what they’re saying.
The best example is actually from the other side of the pond – Chris Cuomo, CNN anchor, brother of one New York governor and son of another.
When Cuomo was meant to be “self-isolating”, after allegedly getting infected, he was spotted by a cyclist socialising on the site where his new house is being built. (Days later, Cuomo made a big deal out of emerging from his basement as if he hadn’t seen his family in two weeks).
You don’t invite your married girlfriend round to your house, then send her back to her husband and children, if you really believe there’s a dangerous virus.
You don’t drive to Durham in the middle of a “national emergency” if you really believe we could all get infected and die.
You don’t break your self-isolation early to have a barbecue with your neighbours if you truly think you have a terrible disease that could make your family sick.
If I tell you you shouldn’t eat chocolate, because it will make your head explode, then I take your chocolate off you and eat it – you wouldn’t think “You hypocrite! You fool! That could make your head explode!”, would you?
You’d be far more likely to think “Hey, he lied to me so he could steal my chocolate.”
(To fully complete the metaphor there needs to be a third person there, saying “but chocolate never made our heads explode before”, and being roundly insulted by the other two as a “Chocolate Denier”, who “just wants people’s heads to explode!”)
Whether it’s Neil Ferguson or Dom Cummings or Chris Cuomo the message is the same. They are telling us they do not really believe there is any danger.
More than that, the press covering it obviously don’t really believe it either.
Look at the crush of reporters and cameramen swarm over Dom Cummings outside his home this morning:
No adherence to #SocialDistancing rules by the hypocritical #FakeNews media as they ambush Dominic Cummings at his family home.
This is a Witch Hunt, plain and simple.pic.twitter.com/rF20OO4rsp
— Darren of Plymouth 🇬🇧 (@DarrenPlymouth) May 24, 2020
Remember: Cummings alleged crime is “breaking social distancing rules”.
Are any of those people social distancing? Are they all wearing masks? Are they acting – in any way whatsoever – as if there is a genuinely “deadly virus” out there?
No, they’re not. Because they don’t really believe it.
The same is true of the police, who will happily man-handle someone for not wearing a mask, despite not wearing masks themselves:
German police attack a man for not wearing mask in supermarket.
Is this LAW in Germany, or just ‘recommend’?….. either way, these police officers don’t bother wearing masks themselves!
This is BRUTAL treatment of citizens!#MartialLaw #NWO pic.twitter.com/So4u9dawIo
— BeachMilk (@BeachMilk) May 15, 2020
Or, without any sense of irony, mob protesters for not “social distancing”:
Whether this is true Orwellian double-think or just old-fashioned dishonesty is not for us to judge (that’s between them, their consciences and maybe their therapists). The internal complexities are as unknowable as they are irrelevant.
The point is: The police, the press, the scientists, the politicians – everyone spouting the need to follow the lockdown rules is perfectly happy to break them.
Because they know what they’re really for, and it’s not to protect us from a virus.
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It’s only one view. It is still far MORE believable that Cummings’ genuinely believed his son was at risk; and that Prof Ferguson and his girlfriend were simply driven by primitive needs, and simply didn’t stop to think.
Panic and stupidity are quite good explanations given the irrationality of humans. Even the Norwegians admit they were driven by panic.
I like the thesis in the article, but on balance I plump for an easier if less satisfying explanation.
Taken in isolation perhaps your point would be valid, but weighted with the huge amount of evidence that no one was believing this crap, that the Imperial Report was pure fiction and that cynical coercion tactics were being used by the press and government, and you have a much weaker positions dismissing this as all a silly overreaction. The data about the true, not-deadly nature of this disease was known from the start, nor even denied, just allowed to be upstaged by blatant fear propaganda.
Thanks, you might be right – I merely err on the side of caution, until the evidence gets strong enough to switch track.
Let me put another question to you. There is copious talk these days of the obvious benefits to Big Pharma of any crisis that could swing the environment towards a massive expansion of vaccines.
So, do you suspect that pro-vaccine lobbies inside Government have played a pivotal role in the disproportionate response to Covid?
Yo hittit on’t ‘ead, Mavis!
Hold on, The Chris Cumo allegation has no basis in fact, your link comes from the purveyor of FAKE news FOX! Where you say ‘Whether it’s Neil Ferguson or Dom Cummings or Chris Cuomo the message is the same. They are telling us they do not really believe there is any danger‘ – NOT TRUE. He has been detailed and advocating intensely on his show with regards to protecting yourself from COVID
Just saying it has no basis in fact means nothing. I saw the video of a sheepish looking Chris Cumo avoiding the allegation and being filmed. He is a liar and that includes the fear he is spreading on CNN fake news network. #new world order
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“Blair, Blair – Macron, Blair !”
I worked in a Whitehall department for 27 years, retiring in 2016. I saw the rise of the Special Advisers’ influence. Every submission to a Minister went through them; therefore they knew everything going on in the Department. The area I dealt with was very controversial involving a clear conflict between industry profits and public health/environmental pollution. During 2015, when this conflict was at a peak, the Special Adviser to the Secretary of State went to work for a massive PR company – the same company that represented the businesses that would most benefit from the safety changes we were proposing. Those changes were blocked and remain blocked. The Special Adviser then returned to work for government.
Apologies for posting this twice under different names. There was a technical mix up which looked as if VictaF couldn’t post but that has now been resolved.
Interesting, Brian.
Do you believe corruption connected with corporate interests is so widespread across all of Govt. that it needs banning?
When did it go from say occasional corruption to widespread and brazen? 1990s?
Rachel – it’s definitely widespread; systemic I would say. In my view (and experience) this has come about through a number of factors coalescing in the past 7/8 years. Banning corruption would be extremely difficult however! For a start, possibly corrupt people are often good at covering their tracks; therefore we need good investigative reporters to untangle the threads . . . oh, wait a minute; we don’t have them any more, do we? Just one example: Sir Patrick Vallance. He’s Chair of SAGE. Came from GSK, strong links with Gates etc. Companies that make vaccines and other healthcare products share connections with Big Chem via huge PR companies like Burson Marsteller. Imperial College has strong connections, to and fro, with Burson. Imperial College as we all know are behind the modelling that’s shunting us all towards mandatory vaccines. Imperial’s fire science lab gets funding from the flame retardant industry,… Read more »
Yes, it probably started in the 90s. I’m very wary of being too prescriptive about this kind of thing. But let’s just say that when I joined the civil service in the late 80s (reluctantly!), there was still a pretty widespread ethic of existing to support the public. Yes, the Sir Humphreys were up to their necks in political self-serving intrigue but most civil servants wanted to do a good job. Whitehall departments also took in experts in specific fields as full-time civil servants to assist with, as in my case, product safety issues. Overall, things were more accountable too: all Ministerial briefings were in written form, as were meeting notes with industry etc. That’s all changed now: to get round the FOI Act, Ministers mostly now want only oral briefings and their meetings are not minuted. This was taken up by civil servants generally, partly by also not recording… Read more »
Thank you Brian for the fascinating reply. I was aware that FOI had been circumvented in some ways, but not so ruthlessly. Some quick comebacks… 1. Based on reading, the lobby industry went to a whole new level in the mid 80s, so my guess was that corporate influence would have begun to spread in similar ways in UK from the 1990s, and in Brussels about same time. 2. I once looked up Burson Marsteller while looking into the nature of the Brussels lobby machine. Clearly BM are big players. I notice it typically takes a lobby PR firm about ten years to create all the connections they need with “influencers” inside Govt. 3. The timing, if we are correct, coincides nicely with the overt politicisation of the Civil Service under Tony Blair. 4. Blair’s new approaches to Govt. were accompanied by the new mood that “New” Labour had toward… Read more »
Rachel, excellent points. I’ll respond properly tomorrow when I have more time. For now, you may be interested (but probably not surprised) to learn that Tony Blair had/has close connections with Burson Marsteller, e.g. via Nick Williams and Matt Carter (e.g. https://www.prweek.com/article/1446529/nick-williams-promoted-chief-client-officer-burson-marsteller-uk) Blair was also a major lobbyist for tougher UK furniture flammability regulations back in the late 80s. I’m sure he had no idea this would introduce massive new profits for the flame retardant industry. Similarly, he also made what I’m sure was a completely insignificant slip of the tongue in a debate when he insisted that the UK must have “chemically treated” sofas as soon as possible, even though the regulations do not stipulate the use of chemicals for fire resistance!
Re FOI requests: departments are now sometimes outright lying or deliberately being evasive in their replies. For example, I put in a request to the MHCLG Minister, backed up by a 9 page document of evidence cleared by a Grenfell lawyer as to why the Chair of the Inquiry’s expert group should be asked to resign. I got no reply despite reminders so I put in an FOI request. The answer was: “We neither confirm nor deny we have the information you request.” My MP then chased up and received a false document which they claimed was sent to me months earlier (but which answered nothing anyway). When I phoned MHCLG and asked to speak to the official who’d apparently sent the letter they told me no one by that name was registered there! Yes, Burson Marsteller has an entire office block full of lobbyists in Brussels. I know this… Read more »
I worked in a Whitehall department for 27 years, retiring in 2016. I saw the rise of the Special Advisers’ influence. Every submission to a Minister went through them; therefore they knew everything going on in the Department. The area I dealt with was very controversial involving a clear conflict between industry profits and public health/environmental pollution. During 2015, when this conflict was at a peak, the Special Adviser to the Secretary of State went to work for a massive PR company – the same company that represented the businesses that would most benefit from the safety changes we were proposing. Those changes were blocked and remain blocked. The Special Adviser then returned to work for government.
Dr No made the same point on Monday: https://dr-no.co.uk/2020/05/25/a-credibility-gap/. The MSM have treated Cummings story as solely a political story but, as said here and by Dr No, the real story is a credibility (of the ‘led by science’) story, given that two high profile advisers have wantonly ignored the official advice. Either they are completely bonkers (possible, but unlikely), or they simply do not believe the advice.
Again, Spain is just recording one Covid-19 death today (May 28). Perhaps they have revised their accounting to only record deaths they were sure were the result of the virus.
Thank you for this dose of truth and common sense. People are so hysterical now though, they seem to be incapable of asking these questions themselves. You are quite right, Jenrick, the senior police officer, Ferguson, Cuomo, Cummings et al (and I bet a significant number of more Tory politicians and scientists and people in authority) know this whole thing to be a scam in the pursuit of total power and control over the people. Just two days ago, the Police attended at another Tory MP’s house where a birthday party was taking place and had to ask two people to leave. So, there really is one rule for the proles and one for the elites. All of these people should have been arrested and fined or put in court as other citizens have been. They know the truth is that it’s a load of BS let’s hear them say… Read more »
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I was amused to read yesterday that Cummings ought to be seen as a Russian sleeper agent. According to John Helmer he was recruited for his Russian stint from 1993 to 1997, where he tried to get an airline from Samara on the Volga to Vienna on the Danube. Why Samara? It has attractive companies doing rocket engines and was a closed city in Soviet times. Why Vienna? Wherever you find something where ‘Russian and Secret’ intersect, Vienna is in the picture. Who would believe Dom was not sent under protection ……
Dom’s high profile activities would give him the feeling he was not vulnerable.
The trip to the castle must have been to a dead letterbox or a live one on two legs.
(Helmer’s servers were still ‘dancing with bears’ yesterday – today all 404.)
What Cummings did was stupid and hypocritical but it would seem not as bad as others in Parliament who are hell bent on keeping the UK in the EU and prepared to bring down the government to get their way. https://hat4uk.wordpress.com
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The Slog – A Cognitive Dissident.
I have changed my opinion since reading this article. It’s surprising what you find when you dig hard enough.
The USA wants the UK to remain, as its loyal stooge in controlling the EU, and keeping it true to ‘Western Values’.
Hi Richard, yes, you are right because the USA want to bring down the EU as it is the largest trading bloc in the world and doesn’t suit USA interests. The EU closed down negotiations with the USA on the Trans Atlantic Trade Treaty because they stated the USA wanted it all their own way, they did not want to give anything in return. In fact, a senior negotiator said the USA’s sole interest was to transfer millions of jobs away from the EU countries to the USA and this is true. The UK Government, well, Bojo and Lynn Truss are about to sign a one-sided Trade Deal with the USA which will be seriously detrimental to British Sovereignty, Foreign Policy, Food Standards and to jobs. A lot more besides. But hell, BoJo is determined to please his USA paymasters by walking away from the EU negotiations in June without… Read more »
Jo, do you have a source for the claim that it was the European Union that decided to terminate the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership negotiations?
Steve, it was part of a programme on Radio 3 called ‘Free Thinking’ which is my favourite radio programme. It was then stated publicly, in the European news, by French and Italian negotiators. The French negotiator spelt it out very clearly. That the aim of the USA was to transfer millions of job away from Europe to the USA. The USA representative of, I think, the USA Chamber of Commerce, on the Radio 3 Programme, when faced with deep questions requiring facts resorted to saying she resorted to the old “you are just anti-american” trope. It was never in the UK MSM, ever. However, I picked it up in El Pais, a Spanish Newspaper and in a French Newspaper. I also picked it up on the Slow French Radio Channel. So, I cannot offer an MSM source in the UK unless the programme on Radio 3 is still available somewhere.… Read more »
Oh, I do not care whether the source is from the United Kingdom or elsewhere. The El Pais (a notorious propaganda outlet), for example, article would do just fine. Indeed, any article, in any language.
The old principle is that if an advisor becomes the story, he would have to walk regardless of the underlying rights and wrongs. It would not be worth the expenditure of political capital for the leadership to defend and deflect all the crap. The only explanation I can think of is that Cummings actually is the CEO of the Downing Street Junta. Can anybody here suggest an alternative?
Don’t know why you got downvoted for a straight observation – though I don’t engage in ‘thumbs’. But while he may be the CEO or the handler, I see the post truth crash is a mindfuck that no longer seeks to make sense but operates the unsetting of the target. Who is the target? Anyone who illuminates the agenda – which by definition is masked. Masking is thus always the paramount safety for the protection of the agenda and so even in an apparent unmasking of Cummings on a jaunt to Derby ( to a Pharma Corp ?), the very fact of the media blitz indicates diversion. I don’t believe there is freedom to act on initiative in the MSM. If the mask over a control agenda cant be maintained – then its breakdown becomes a self-contradictory, un-understandable and constantly unsettling tactic of confusion, while maintaining the grip of the… Read more »
I’ve been wondering the same. It was perhaps telling that when Dom C was first being harassed outside his home, putting stuff in the car, he was talking about ‘Brexit’ and ‘how that didn’t turn out well for you then’. I think everything with this lot comes down to this issue. It’s how BoJo came to power. It’s the source of his unbreakable (it would seem) loyalty (dependence) to Mr C. Everything comes back to Brexit. So in a way, they are happy for Dom C to become the witch the MSM and LockdownLovies want to burn, because it roughly re-draws the political battle lines in the same place. They’re comfortable there. They’re less comfortable with, Why didn’t our doctors and nurses have the basic equipment they needed to be safe?
He’s a lamb to be sacrificed at the most appropriate moment?
He’s an elite brat working to discredit/prevent brexit by association?
He’s a distraction – taking up the front pages with his silly clothes and stupid pronouncements?
The idea that someone so ephemeral and lightweight is “in charge” of britain is naive in the extreme – lost in a dark wood indeed
Lost in the Dark Woods. Cummings is a psychopath with a pretty violent temper it seems. John McConnel said he was known to be highly aggressive and angry at meetings in which people did not agree with him and known for thumping his fist on the table throughout meetings. However, as he has a terrible public persona and zero capacity for diplomacy, he cannot be a politician so BoJo makes him his Chief Advisor. Yes, he is the CEO of the Downing Street well, I wouldn’t call it a Junta but yes, a Fascist Cabinet who are pathological liars and don’t give a damn about this country but only about power. I cannot stand Sajid Javed but I commend him for resigning from his post due to Cummings’ interference in his department. God help us. The MSM got his bunch of clowns elected on the back of a vicious, malicious,… Read more »
I have my doubts whether Corbyn would have coped better, not least because he would have been systematically undermined by the civil service, security services and many of his own MPs. He was a prime candidate for A Very British Coup if he had made it that far. Johnson was more acceptable to the powers that be, although if he becomes a liability to his own party they will ditch him. He seems to be floundering right now.
Agreed on all counts. He would be very easy to ditch I think. The big problem seems to be that there is no obvious successor. They are all equally odious, and most have what you can only describe as a negative personality.
Waldorf, I don’t think Jeremy Corbyn would have followed the MSM agenda here. More thought would have been put into the decision of making masses unemployed etc. In fact, if it wasn’t for Corbyn’s proposals in Parliament at the time, we wouldn’t have the Furlough scheme, we wouldn’t have the changes to Universal Credit and the payment holidays, these were all his proposals and Ian Blackford’s re Universal Credit. However, you are right of course because the MSM and TPTB and now, as it has emerged, the right wing of the Labour Party would have found a way of crucifying him in any event. However, what I do know, is that we be handling this matter in a very different way, based on facts, based on the good of the nation and the economy and with dignity and honour. Instead of which, we have tanked the British economy, we are… Read more »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italy-says-96percent-of-virus-fatalities-suffered-from-other-illnesses/ar-BB14BLbg
Probably not a big surprise to people who frequent this site.
A bit off topic, but Spain is reporting only one Covid-19 death today. I am sure they will be accused of lying, but it is remarkable enough to attract media attention elsewhere in the world. We may survive this thing yet…
which thing – the novel pretext or the agenda of its activation?
Perhaps both? (I may be an outrageous optimist here.)
Ok. I like your expansion. I’ll sketch my own. Nothing kills like false belief made real and set at odds or in contradiction to our reality. So at what level is our life-time or ‘living on’ (survival), a belief or predicate of lockdown to self-isolation as a fear-bubble reality seeking control-reinforcement and defence-protection, and thus aligning under such props and stays as a ‘normalised un-natural?’ – or conditioned masking reality? That is to consider that our experience of a physically externalised existence is itself a novel pretext or self-conceit running the agenda of its active identification. If that seems too unthinkable, simply consider that life and the source of life are timeless, and that our timelines are unfolding of perspectives, lived and shared as experience of love in distortions that extend to every kind of separation trauma – and every kind of strategy of masking over such fear in ways… Read more »
The Emperor’s New Clothes…..
The Cummings saga raises a number of interesting points – not least whether the idea of a strict lockdown was not merely to stick it to the ‘plebs’ but to compromise the wealthy and powerful – the people below ‘world-ruler’ level, perhaps.
Has there been any scrutiny, for example, of journeys made by the Royals during the lockdown? And if not, does it have anything to do with them so scrupulously toeing the line?
As with the situations involving Johnson (his neighbours recording him just before the election and then his illness), there is a feeling with Cummings of some kind of warning from the puppetmasters – don’t even think of stepping out of line.
Prince Charles, who was in London at the time, suspected he had been infected with the coronavirus and so decided to travel to Scotland to self isolate at his holiday home Balmoral. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-slam-prince-charles-heading-21754528
The corporate media so called journalists did not treat this as proof that he is unfit for public office and did not demand his head on a plate.
I noticed that at the time.
GSK Barnards Castle.
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The Groaniad, flashes its wolf fangs from under its blood covered sheepskin (not for the first time this week – see also todays cover for the Rumsfeld run Gilead pharmas dodgy drug for covid patients approved by the human rubber stamp Handcock). It slyly pushes the brexshit agenda by a return to Islamophobia and rise in anti -immigrant rhetoric. The formula that delivered the referendum. By providing oxygen to Yaxley-Lennon, the deepstate stooge under the comically emotional pseudonym the Ob-Groan has promoted non-stop, pearl clutching at the uncouth beast, while salivating at his cock sureness. They totally fail to mention his few weeks in Belmarsh, where he ‘didn’t see a single other inmate’ (Assange prob grateful for a little mercy) but got a sweet documentary fillip with Ross Kemp. What else was the point of putting the would be modern Mosley in a High Security prison and releasing him in… Read more »
Who in the name of several gods thought Gilead would be a good name for a company especially given the current situation most of the world finds itself in……Blessed be the fruit
”A rat in a maze is free to go anywhere, as long as it stays inside the maze”
Margaret Atwood-The Handmaids Tale
No doubt it has some Talmudic resonance.
Idiots like company-it’s that simple.
Don’t go mad.
Sound advice. Should be on T-shirts and face muzzles.
I’ve just had a quick look at the UK government website and the original advice re social distancing there is no menton of the actual distance. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults Here’s the relevant original text: Avoid contact with someone who is displaying symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19). These symptoms include high temperature and/or new and continuous cough Avoid non-essential use of public transport when possible Work from home, where possible. Your employer should support you to do this. Please refer to employer guidance for more information Avoid large and small gatherings in public spaces, noting that pubs, restaurants, leisure centres and similar venues are currently shut as infections spread easily in closed spaces where people gather together. Avoid gatherings with friends and family. Keep in touch using remote technology such as phone, internet, and social media Use telephone or online services to contact your GP or other essential services. HOWEVER The guidelines were updated… Read more »
I think speeding in 30mph zones is actually dangerous and costs lives. Yet many people do it. But many of those people who do it also realise it’s dangerous. They just think they are invisible. Humans often think disasters only happen to other people . It’s human nature I suppose. The point is, Cummings isnt perhaps flouting rules because he doesn’t understand or believe in the risks, rather he is just prepared to take such risks because he thinks he personally will be lucky. It’s why we gamble when we know catagorically the odds of loosing are higher than winning. So there’s liars, there’s hypocrites but mostly there is just chancers. Everywhere.
That said I think Cummings is all 3 at once .
Instead of an air bag, a large metal spike coming out of the steering wheel will cause motorists to be more careful and explosives mounted front and back will make the motorist slow down.
Incentivising systems compliance is the nature of the New Normal.
It operates by the leveraging of support from the rage-suppressed, the fear-demanding and the blame-shaming.
The Author is not thinking!
“Eid” is the festival at the end of Ramadan in which 1,000’s of Parties by Muslims took place at the weekend in the UK, in groups of 100’s of people to over 300 people in one place during a lockdown – Hoax aside.
So to distract the law abiding White Christian Plebs, they created the Cummings diversion in which he broke no law by dropping his 4yr old off with Grandparents & also possibly but not proven took part in a secret meeting with GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) pharmaceutical company in the area where he dropped off his kid. CUMMINGS ALWAYS HAD A COPPER PLATE ON HIS ASS.
When you think people like Cummings & Boris are stupid, you make a dangerous underestimation.
Whether MSM were complicit or fell into a trap is debatable but the Muslims once again are the protected ones!
Raw and vicious xenophobic hatred, bottom of the barrel stuff.
Triggered? – “Raw, Vicious, Xenophobic, Hatred” You make me sound like a Violent Snowflake Leftie Planet Saving Co2 Warrior ? TIC 🙂
Only pointing out the obvious Richard. Neither Left nor Right & didn’t mention the Grooming Gangs……….
You’ve changed your name, Antonym!
This is not about a virus-apart from the financial industry-This is about a cover for the inevitable banking crash,cashless society,the installation of 5G and ultimately total control if people don’t wake the fuck up.
100% Correct my friend
How exactly is a “cashless society” supposed to follow from “the inevitable banking crash”?
Figure it out,the rest of us have a long time ago,not playing troll games with you.
cash is dirty
cummings poppers and dolphin sq banana parties are clean
5g is like waterless jacuzzi hot tub if you will
the waves lap penetrate swim inject all around
hot tubs jacuzzi are expensive we are getting microwave zapped for free
we are so lucky israel who invented it 5g gave it us as a gift
which was nice
From Fort Riley to Fort Detrick…like goldfish round and round in the goldfish bowl Rockefeller gave the world the Fort Riley “Flu” (blame the Spanish) and Gates gave the world the Fort Detrick “flu” (blame the Chinese). However, the doubt remains as to whether all this terror will be enough to save the fiat filth IOU Saudi Mercan petro dollah and the worthless €urodollah. • The reason modern technology has not been able to pinpoint the killer influenza strain from this pandemic is because influenza was not the killer. • More soldiers died during WWI from disease than from bullets. • The pandemic was not flu. An estimated 95% (or higher) of the deaths were caused by bacterial pneumonia, not influenza/a virus. • The pandemic was not Spanish. The first cases of bacterial pneumonia in 1918 trace back to a military base in Fort Riley, Kansas. • From January 21… Read more »
Reminds one of the Hepatitis B ‘vaccine’ injected into gay men in New York in the late 70s.
Spanish ‘Flu’ was a mould, not a germ.
Agreed there was a cover up around the 2018/19 influenza, but the reason it became known as the ‘spanish flu’ was because Spain, being neutral in WW1, were the only ones reporting it. Most governments, including the US, covered up the fact they had a serious problem, because they thought it would damage the war effort at, a then, crucial point. Of course the spanish were neutral in WW1, so the press were free to report on the virus. The only news that we got about it was from Spain, hence becoming known as the ‘Spanish flu’. Of course this narrative played very well into the allied hands, nobody, especially America, wanted to become associated with it’s origins, or admit that they had a serious contagion. There’s an interesting documentary called ‘The flu that killed 50 million’ on BBC iPlayer, which goes into the reasons and starting point . I’d… Read more »
I assume you mean 1918/19
Indeed, thanks for pointing that out – been in lockdown so long I’ve forgotten what century we’re in!
That and society didn’t have any antibiotics during the Influenza/Bacterial Pneumonia.
We now have many kinds of antibiotics to treat such secondary infections.
The Fort Detrick (debt trick) Viru$, being waged by a dying USSA and its craven vassals aka the EUSSR and the rest of the anglozionazi empire, on China has divided humanity into two groups. On the one hand the sheeple who do what they are told by the ruling psychopaths and on the other those who get it, at least some of what the agenda is. You can try to rouse the sheeple but only if they have the power of reason. Watching the morons leading their moronic lives with their face nappies, proclaiming to all the world “I am dirty, we are diseased..we must obey” and it must be come obvious even to the hopelessly optimistic that we are on Planet Sheeple and the vast majority are more than ready to be dipped, shagged, chipped and turned into glue. How to escape from the asylum when the asylum is… Read more »
I agree to some degree but masks are a useful Non-Pharmaceutical Intervention to stop the spread of respiratory disease. The fanatic hatred of masks is, in my opinion, a pathopsychological over-reaction.
I see that whilst you are not prepared to present any evidence to support this assertion, you nevertheless are determined to continue to propagate it.
A fart can make it through two layers of clothing ..very often one of them is heavy denim….i imagine virii or bacteria are far smaller than the fart particles….how safe do you feel in that mask now ?
breaking news: scientists now doubt the existence of any such thing as “fart particles”.
The issue of reaction might be addressed to psychopathic fear-mongering – that also runs a mindfuck. “Masks are not necessary or effective”. “Masks are necessary and effective”.
The imposition of masks is different than the freedom to wear them or not as you choose.
It states on the government website covid19 is not a high risk disease, 🤷♀️🤣
Yep, been there two-and-a-half months. Ignored. Imagine, if you showed it to a fear-wrecked covid devotee, their brain would explode with confusion.
Reg – I really think there are people who are becoming Covid devotees, almost like a new club. A religion even. The fear and brainwashing has been almost cult like. I am not joking though, I’ve been targeted. They way they go at you even if you so much question their doctrine. I’m a heretic burn me at the stake!
That’s why I’ve been avoiding meeting a guy I know who has fallen hook, line and sinker for the con. I know that if we met and he started talking about the “second wave” and how Trump is trying to kill people with hydroxychloroquine, I would unleash the full force of my fury on him. So it’s best I distance myself.
Reg – I have been up since 5.00am as I am every morning lying awake thinking about the sorry state the World has become. Here is something I picked up from Anti Empire. I e-mailed the editor to ask if it was satire or a sick joke, but I don’t think it is. How would anybody want Covid19 to continue and people to die just so they could make their vaccine?? I would dearly like your comments Reg, and anybody else who reads this: Researchers at the University of Oxford’s Jenner Institute and the Oxford Vaccine Group are warning that their initial hope of an 80 per cent success rate for the vaccine has now dropped to 50 per cent. “It is a race, yes. But it’s not a race against the other guys. It’s a race against the virus disappearing, and against time,” Professor Adrian Hill told the Telegraph… Read more »
In a twisted way, they believe that Covid19 will return and therefore they need a vaccine before it returns They also need an excuse for not being able to meet the goal of making a vaccine before that (or any) time. As a student I was quite impressed by the writings and doings of Adrian Hill. I even wrote to him once, asking him if I could do a research project under his supervision (the answer was no). Now I think he is just one of the many Eichmanns in science who work according the following formula: make sterile schemes and equations, that is: equations and schemes that has no interest whatsoever with humanity. Define that as ‘science’ If you don’t want to despair you should talk with deluded friends, colleagues, relatives. Tell them kindly but firmly that Covid19 can’t be diagnosed (faulty test), that the CFR is in the… Read more »
Willem – Thanks! I am not well educated, or a radical and I don’t have an agenda, I am a 61 year old housewife that just wants to get on with her life. Every day I get more and more distressed as I see the World falling apart, and I feel so helpless being unable to do anything about it. Fortunately there are a few kindred spirits on this site. My good wishes to anybody who reads this.
Ginette…there are many more kindred spirit’s out than you think. Just because many are silent right now doesn’t mean they aren’t there. Have faith in humanity. Good will always win….light over dark etc….it just takes time and patience.
I know loads of people who are educated, but completely incapable of thinking for themselves. You might not be well educated, but you’re more intelligent than most who are …
Thanks Jamie – I have tried to post some reasonable comments on Off Guardian (excuse the spelling and typos), and also to take on other people’s viewpoints that I don’t agree with. I think this pandemic has divided the nation even more than Brexit. With Brexit though it was a nearly a 50/50 split, but the pandemic 80/20? Who knows, as a lot of people are reluctant to speak up or even ask pertinent questions in case they are branded enemies of the state. Up until now we have been relatively free to air our view publicly on a variety of topics and on various platforms, but the systematic clamping down on and humiliation of anybody who even dares to question the lockdown and Government policy, that has really shocked me. Same goes for 5G and vaccinations. We are all branded fruitcakes and conspiracy theorists, even those who have a… Read more »
Ginette, I too would like to meet a lot of people who post on this site and am glad that you did find this site because it is one of the excellent ones. I wonder whether, in the sort of same way that Craig Murray does through his blog, Admin could organise some sort of open air OffG festival or something so that we could all meet, greet, share and drink!
I saw Adrian Hill being interviewed by Andrew Marr last Sunday morning. He repeated several times that we were “running out of virus in the community”. Marr never picked up on it (BBC, so he’s probably not allowed!) but I did wonder if Hill was trying to slip a message through to us.
Willem, How do we get that message across on a larger scale.
Yeah, I saw that. Thought it was satire myself. Then realised there’s nothing left to satirise anymore. To be honest, I don’t know what to make of it. How do they come up with all these numbers, by the way? 80 per cent success rate. 50 per cent success rate. 14-day quarantine. Two more weeks of imprisonment. 18 months till a new vaccine. 1.9 metres of distancing. No “normal” until 2023. Who dreams this crap up and on what basis? They’re plotting something big this winter, I reckon. The “second wave” will have some extra ingredients. The fear will be jacked up so high people will be screaming and begging to be protected and demanding concentration camps for their neighbours. I have a premonition the covid vigilante force will quickly take shape because the “virus”, we’ll be told, has become even more lethal. The media are primed and ready to… Read more »
The more I look at this, the more I’m inclined to think you’re right. Not a happy thought!
I would absolutely, unequivocally love to be proved wrong.
Reg, the WHO, I think it was earlier this week, has already issued a warning about a ‘2nd phase’ for all countries exiting lockdown. So, it’s already planned and ready to go! Alongside of course, the Gates Foundation offering certain African Governments millions of dollars to force through compulsory vaccination bills for CV-19. The said nations have had the good sense to refuse! Good for them! All the NATO countries subscribing to this have no interest in democracy it seems and tow the line disregarding in its entirety the wishes and feelings of the Nation and the people in it.
If you’re interested in understanding this entire vaccine and virus madness among a certain kind of researchers (the majority seemingly), then do read
a book called “Virus Mania”. You’ll then understand the reaction of this Professor from Oxford. We’ve been totally conned since the 1850s regarding diseases, though until the 90s there still were genuine scientists and doctors
pointing this out, although there are cases of people having to resign or losing all their grants. Its not that the voices have died, but the whole media, university and scientific structures, political structures have been made such that its more difficult to reach out to the public. All is done so you cant reach out, so you’re not heard.
Thanks for the book recommendation, hope.
Hope, it seems to me that you are right about the fact we have been conned for some centuries now about viruses. The question I want TPTB to answer is, we already have a flu vaccination which is only 30% effective. It is also known to cause other illnesses and reduce the human body’s immune system leading to other serious illnesses.s
As CV-19 is nothing more than a strong flu with the same symptoms, why is another vaccine needed? The flu vaccine is only 30% effective so it is logical to assume any new vaccine may be less so and may cause more serious illnesses.
They are watching the potential profits slip away with the figures…THATS why they wish it would hang around a little longer
Magumba – Very good point! No virus vaccine no money. Especially when you think of all the millions they have pumped into it.
Ginette very good questions. Last week I think it was, the Chief Medical officer of WHO said the ‘virus would burn itself out and there would be no need for a vaccine’. This was reiterated by other renowned scientists. Sweden’s recent charts show it is almost at its end. In the UK, the numbers peaked on 8th April 2020 – any increase in alleged numbers of deaths need to be taken with a pinch of salt and you are right, question it as it should be so.
We are now in the realm where the ‘scientists’ are playing God as they always have done only they have been given a licence to talk crap now. It’s all about them chasing their reputations, funding, research grants etc, no more no less. It seems to be the case that the more BS they spout the more money they are given.
It goes both ways-the denialists have rejected rationality and commonsense, too. To see masks described as ‘dog muzzles’ or ‘face nappies’ is just dumb, and embarrassing.
Hello Richard Le Sarc – I personally am not a denialist. I can’t speak for anybody else, but I am sure there are a few people on this discussion board that don’t deny that Covid19 exists. My gripe is the way this thing has been handled by the Government from the start, and the mass hysteria generated by the mainstream media. This pandemic and climate of fear has brought about tension and mistrust on both sides. I have absolutely no problem with people wearing masks, it is their choice to wear any piece of attire they choose. I don’t wear one for my own personal reasons, and if a supermarket or shop stopped me from going in if I didn’t wear one, then I would shop elsewhere.
I agree Ginette, but wearing masks is in the interests of others. It cuts down the spread of disease from the infected to the uninfected, and reassures those riven with fear thanks to the propaganda effort. It costs people NOTHING to seek to help allay the fears of others, and to refuse to do so because it’s you ‘right’ is akin to saying that you have a ‘right’ to shoot off your assault rifle in a crowded theatre.
Talking like a fucking Ingsoc propaganda poster. “Help others. Be a good citizen. Obey.” You have been challenged to show clear proof that these muzzles block viruses from hopping through the air and killing other people. What’s stopping you? And what’s with the infantile analogy of an assault rifle in a theatre? Seriously? Jeezus Christ (pbuh)!
Richard Le Sarc – Thanks for getting back to me. It’s nice that people with different viewpoints can can discuss things on this platform without ripping each other’s throats out. That’s why I choose to post on OffGuardian and not other sites. I will add something to my previous post. 1) If I was suffering from Covid19 or showing symptoms I would not even go outside for a couple of weeks, let alone go out shopping. 2) I have isolated myself indoors for over 2 months. If I had the virus it would have probably gone away by now don’t you think? 3) It has been recorded where I live that not only has nobody been hospitalised or died from the virus, but nobody has even contracted it. Fact. Why should I walk around with a mask on breathing in only my carbon dioxide on a hot day in a… Read more »
Sorry, typed ‘can’ twice. And that’s after proofreading it. Probably a lot more mistakes in there. It’s funny how you find them after you have pressed the ‘send’ button!
Richard, that is assuming of course that there is a massive plague going around such as the bubonic plague. It is not, it is nothing more than a strong flu which kills only the 80yrs+ who have two or more comorbid conditions – that’s what the international datasets tell us. If it was the plague, I strongly suspect any amount of mask wearing would be totally ineffective as would social distancing and self isolation. However, the plague is not upon us. A strong flu is. All so called preventative measures such as masks and social distancing are totally irrelevant and ineffective. A virus is a virus is a virus. No more no less. Viruses are not treatable by vaccines. They come and go throughout our lives. There are 20 different Covid viruses around – none of which, with the exception of the flu, has a vaccine – and that is… Read more »
Jo – You should be on the TV giving the daily briefing rather than Matt Hancock! My take on this: Yes, it must be awful for anybody who contracts this virus and who ends up in intensive care. Then again it must be equally awful for the person that lands up in intensive care with the flu or pneumonia. What I have noticed though, that even during the absolute worst years of flu pandemics, nobody was pressurised to wear a mask. Also the TV news didn’t show night upon night, images of flu or pneumonia patients hooked up to ventilators, dying and taking their last breaths. Jo, you are also right about the effectiveness of the flu vaccine. I have the figures here from previous years. Yet you won’t see the media publishing figures like these at it doesn’t sell newspapers.
Hi Ginette, thank you for your comments and for your regular comments on this site. I would love to take the podium but methinks that Hancock would probably slap a chloroform mask on me before I could say “w*****r to him! The problem I have is that I cannot see the alleged ‘virus’ anywhere. We know most of the hospitals in the UK are running 3/4 empty and have still not restarted elective surgery and essential treatment. We know the Nightingale Hospitals never had more than 19 patients. We know that the way the Government are counting figures would challenge even Einstein to make sense of. What I do know, is that our figures and way of counting them are completely out of synch with the rest of the world. The truth, in the UK, doesn’t exist at the moment as far as I can see. It’s fake news, propaganda,… Read more »
You should drop the illusion that a facial mask is protecting you against COV19. To get real, you should consider helping your immune system with healthy nutrition, plenty of vitamins, especially D3 and K2, Mg & Zn, good sleep and plenty of sunshine, positive thinking, regular physical activity, and in case of infection, magnesium oil (MgCl2). Something particularly efficient is redox activated seawater – it contains a molecule our immune system produce for killing pathogens, hypochloric acid (HOCl). By the way, this will protect you also against many other ailments, including cardiovascular diseases, cancers and leukemia. Something else helping, is to stay away from the brainwashing our wish-be-lords in governments implement on the population, the mainstream media thoughts poisoning, and cultivate good spirits, healthy relationships (socializing) and much good humor (get as much lough as possible). That’s it, and forget about ‘big pharma’ and vaccines! Best of my wishes on… Read more »
No different to tin foil hatters or believers in lizard people….welcome to social media and main stream media ostracization….i actually prefer to use the term face panty liners …because they make you look like a c…
Alert – don’t read this if you are easily embarrassed by mention of female hygiene products!
My neighbour is a nurse. We were having a laugh yesterday about the contraptions people are using as face masks. She told me that she had seen a young woman in the supermarket wearing two sanitary towels joined together covering her mouth and nose and tied round the back of her head with a length of stretch bandage.
🤣 She had a ringside seat to insanity. I wish we could have seen a photo.
Hi JudyJ – well, I don’t know what to say! I should hate to look this ridiculous and I am an eccentric batty old lady (well, sort of). Long live the revolution! Liberte, Fraternite and Egalite!!
Or “jock straps” making you look like a dick.
I don’t deny this virus is a nasty thing, for the elderly in particular, but what I question is the proportionality of the response, to what is – and we have enough data now – only as bad as a serious winter flu epidemic. I am worried about the serious implications for people like my father, not going to the doctor and having appointments cancelled for serious conditions, I worry for the 2 million already jobless, I’m worried about a mental health epidemic, and I’m worried about the awful precedent it sets for human rights. Most are not denying the epidemic, not getting involved in conspiracy theory , but concentrating on the data and the facts. If you can prove to me unequivocally that this virus is worse than say the flu epidemic of 68/69 that killed 80,000 people in the UK alone, or even 15/16 that killed 40,000 people… Read more »
Jamie agreed. You would think the bubonic plague, cholera or typhoid was out there wouldn’t you?
That said Richard – I’m happy for you to incarcerate yourself if that’s what you want?
We’ll zoom if we need you.
Ginette, that’s the British Sheeples for you. Brainwashed and indoctrinated for years by the gutter press which create massive crises out of rubbish. We are a poorly educated nation now and rapidly becoming a poor one. We are about to become annexed to the USA by a horrendous, one-sided Trade Deal and it will cost us very dearly. The sad thing is, when the reality of totalitarianism is upon us and real, the people who voted in this bunch of cowboys (and the MSM are the most guilty) will have no right to complain because they never asked the relevant questions, applied any sort of critical analysis and jumped on the bandwagon of hysteria.
That odd statement has been there since March, when nearly every other statement and action by the government and its media followers conveyed the idea we were dealing with the Black Death or at least the 1918 flu. Johnson seemed more relaxed about it himself and then allegedly caught it in what has since looked to me like a contrived scenario.
Is it not legal cover?
Notice the ‘science’ people who set the fire back off after it has served its shock value.
Waldorf, my view is that Johnson never had it. However, it took him out of public scrutiny, interviews and having to answer Press questions. It was all contrived. He demonstrated this penchant for lack of accountability or for answering questions admirably in the General Election yet, thanks to the MSM, people voted this Government in. It seems they regret it now but they had a chance to change things at the last GE and they were brainwashed by the MSM. Ignorant people get what they voted for – this bunch of cowboys. Intelligent people are aghast at what is happening. Stoogie Starmer is a total waste of space and can’t even be classified as an opposition. He is heading up Tory Party Mark 2.
A MECHANISM FOR POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY COVID-19 is no longer viewed as just a virus, it’s now a political phenomena fueled by partisan narratives. In the US the coronavirus has become the centerpiece surrounding mentally declining Biden’s presidential campaign. Basement ridden Joe’s campaign staff is attempting to depict the Medicare and Social Security cutting Biden as Mr. Compassion. The problem is every time the imbecile opens his mouth you know otherwise. Just the other day, during an interview with Charlamagne on the show the “Breakfast Club” brain dead Biden said he had no regrets about promoting and passing a crime bill which extended prison sentences for minorities, the poor, and mentally ill. Biden, concluded the interview by patronizingly telling Charlamagne a black person: “you’re not black, if you don’t vote for me.” This is the dimwit who supposedly will be more competent in the Oval Office handling the pandemic. In actuality… Read more »
There’ll be a new ‘vaccine breakthrough’ every week to goose the stock exchange, at least for a while.
A great mistake. Just because ‘ They ‘ don’t believe it doesn’t mean that it’s not true. All these ‘theys ‘ may be contemptuous but the deaths and infections tell a different tale. There is a virus. It is killing people. There are infections and the total is 5.5 million people. Not awesome considering the population but this is a case of where it is – not what it is. There is a ‘ Lockdown ‘ but i can get my haircut ( try that in the Gulag) I can also visit the Garden Centre and so on which is ‘ Draconian’ Come on now – we are all supposed to be leftie/anarchist/libertarian/freedom loving individuals etc and we think that some people who worship under a wooden Owl and meet around the Bildeberg wooden table run the whole show? Look at them – just look at them -they have no… Read more »
Viruses are everywhere and have been killing people since people have been on planet earth. The big deal is really about immunity and how a person’s immune system copes with the virus. You could extremely easily have broadcasted almost identical hospital scenes and reported similar deaths and death rates for 2017-2018 flu season or the more severe one in 1999-2000. It’s just that this virus is somewhat different to influenza so it has been hyped and blown out of all proportion with disastrous lockdown policies quarantining the healthy while at the same time putting in little or no protections for care homes – even willfully importing the virus into the carehomes by discharging hospital patients into care homes without even a test. People who think that Lockdown is awful and unwarranted are absolutely right – the lockdown fallout will result in mass unemployment, a bailout bill that will take a… Read more »
The idea of a religion is tempting. The “Moon of Alabama” was talking on his sight about a number of steps necessary to combat the virus, including “breaking the family chain”. To which my immediate response was that this is becoming seriously weird.
“site”, not “Sight”. It’s early…
Bernhard over at MOA has become seriously weird.
“Breaking the family chain”? I would like to see that scumbag commissar come and try to break up MY family chain.
Germ theory is a religion – or rather a derivative of demonology – which is a superstitious perversion of religion setting evil as a pathogenic power over God’s Creation. As a sort of masked over and locked down fear-reaction… that drives all awareness and appreciation or alignment with love out of a self-isolating mind bubble covid with fig leaves.
However, what we actually believe is not what we think we think, but what frames our thinking invisibly and would ordinarily seem unquestionably self-evident.
MoA is either called on to support the agenda or deeply susceptible to contagion-fear. Is there a difference? Fear calls it own, Love also calls – but you have to WANT to listen for truth – despite the SHOUT of fear. Love of truth CANNOT abide a lie set over its denial. Fear of truth can and must!
David Meredith, am I right in thinking (or not) that Hancock a few weeks ago said at a Press conference that the Government hadn’t even assessed the impact of a lockdown at the time the decision was made?
“..Our” “..we” .. I don’t trust those who write like this. You don’t speak for me; and I’ll keep my own counsel regarding the Dreaded™ Pathogen, TYVM.
#reserved (more than ever)
C.
How long did you spend queueing outside the garden centre? Good job the weather’s nice at the mo, isn’t it? These bastards are only hard at work getting enough schmucks back to work to suit their interests. The rest of the schmucks are being bribed to stay at home and do the gardening until the bribery stops in a few months time, and there will be no jobs for them to go back to. The under-funded Health service has been underwhelmed throughout this fake ‘crisis’. We already know the outcome of the fake virus crisis. The scientists are telling us it’s burned itself out, as all virus epidemics do. The turning out terribly is, and will continue to be the result of the lockdown. The real question is: how many dead bodies is the lockdown worth for the sake of introducing new social controls under the guise of a fake… Read more »
The facts will emerge and if those facts double the death rate will that be ” Comedy Gold?” You need to understand that for all our musings and opinions on here it won’t change the way nations are run ( or miss ran) so they remain opinions that’s all. If there is a resurgence then the alleged ‘ Draconian’ UK lockdown will be worse than the one your moaning about now. That will really hurt the economies of all the non lockdown antions. Here’s a fact: China genuinely locked down in a Draconian manner – they have very few cases of infections now. Second fact: If you can’t stomach the Chinese model the South Koreans had a lockdown and test and trace and so on unlike the UK and the US government. Question: Which approach worked? 100,000 Americans are dead – Brazil is overwhelmed and the UK has at leat… Read more »
South Korea had a limited lockdown . They even held a national election using physical voting booths during it.
Most of the excess deaths are due to seeding nursing homes with elderly covid19 patients discharged directly from hospitals, and non-covid19 deaths caused by lockdown – heart attacks, cancers, etc not getting treated, massive increase in suicides, and so on.
There are plenty of places on the www where your baseless fear porn will go down a treat. This isn’t one of those places.
Change is wished to be brought about by the likes of your employers – but everything changes – and whatever you think you are changing will in turn change. So you get to piss on others and feel special for a while.
Engaging in communication can seem a messy thing to control freaks who have no intention of allowing relational change into their minds – bubbled, masked and lockstepped into a death cult of a new world normal. How incomparably boring is that lifeless vision of humanity – or is it a vision of our replacement?
Protests in Wuhan certainly diminished. The Authorities see their measures ‘working’.
Lockdown deaths have hardly begun.
There is no “if”, boyo. There will be a resurgence. There will not be an end to this “pandemic”. Do you get it, citizen?
Reg Surely not!! I get it citizen – fake, phoney and propaganda. We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia!
Hi Tony, as usual, a good deal of common sense. However, I have to disagree about the ‘underfunded’ NHS. It is awash with money it just doesn’t have any proper financial management structures in place to approve significant spending. Budget holders can spend the money on what they like. The NHS have no idea where or how they spend their money except that they are skilled empire builders with tiers, upon tiers, upon tiers of Senior managers, Managers, Middle Managers, Administrators etc all of whom have deputies of course, all extremely highly paid. No other organisation in a competitive marked would be able to sustain these huge levels of non productive, incompetent tiers of management. However, I do agree that they have been underwhelmed by an alleged crisis that has never actually existed.
“The facts will emerge in the future”. Comedy gold.
Thank you Kit. On the subject of Cummings, UKCOLUMN on their May 25th news bulletin suggested that Cummings on his visit to Durham and Bernard Castle was not breaking the lock down in order to have a little picnic with his family at the National Trust Properties at Bernard Castle. He went there on business with a full approval of Bojo Johnson to see GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) minions in order to discuss the forthcoming vaccine. GSK have their headquarters in Bernard Castle and have, as The Northern Echo reported on 23rd April…”Entered vaccine collaboration with French pharmaceutical Sanofi to fight Covid-19″. This is also the guy who participated in the secret Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) meetings and could well be very important to the puppet masters in re-purposing the government. That might explain why he is currently untouchable.
His body english is ‘out there’. His facial expressions are seriously weird. He is as clear a case of someone with personality/mental issues as one could look at. I wonder what ‘They’ are holding on him?
What has he got on them?
Tony he is a full blown psychopath, a megalomaniac and has serious messianic tendencies. He has Bojo totally under his control. Hence, he has not been sacked.
They could have utilized a web conference app. It’s typical “rules for thee, but not for me” attitude.
However, considering the shenanigans coming out of our governors presently, the contents of the discussions would be highly dangerous (to GSK and the governments) if they were to be leaked.
It is in our best interests to be shielded from things that could harm us.
Has anyone else noticed that you cannot smile at someone through a mask? Facial expressions are basic communication. Communication breakdown.
This is a slightly cleaned up version of a key part of Cummings’ press briefing [1] I was trying to balance lots of competing things. I mean, if I hadn’t worked here [Downing Street Junta], for example then I could very easily say I could just have stayed in an isolated cottage for weeks afterwards. But I was involved in lots of things involving, you know, crucial questions of vaccines, trying to get scientists involved in the effort, trying to get money moved, trying to get regulations moved out of the way, and I thought that if I could return to work then I should seek to return to work. — We are told that Cummings is supposed to be an advisor, but this all sounds very much like an executive role. I would want to know the specifics of: a) what are these “crucial questions of vaccines” b) which… Read more »
The so called journalists present did not ask questions; they fired accusations at him that were framed in the form of questions. And the accusations had clearly been prepared before he had uttered a word of his statement.
And Prof Neil Ferguson will have a cameo role as a mad scientist and will be credited in the cast list under the pseudonym Research Grant
Terence Rigby would play George Galloway but would have to overcome the unfortunate logistic issue of being dead.
The really big news is that the Coronation Street thespian, Simon Gregson, has defended Cummings via Twitter.
My hunch is that Gregson’s angling to land the Cummings role when they’re casting for the film which’ll inevitably be made about this saga (working title: Lockdown 2020. Inevitably, Hugh Grant will be in it, too. As will Richard E. Grant. And, in a bizarre twist, it’ll also feature Avram Grant, the Israeli ex-manager of Chelsea Football Club. A novice actor, but his saturnine visage is ideal for conveying the kind of doom and gloom associated with coronavirus in the minds of the gullible).
And Grant Mitchell will play as Chelsea footballer club
Should that be Corona Nation Street?
Third man~ chocolate denier. Brilliant.
Michael Gove quote from the Guardian:
“I think it’s going to be very, very difficult for us to return to any of us standing at the bar or any of us mingling in a cafe indoors in a way that we have in the past.”
So that’s an admission that there is no intention of this every going away as there is no time frame attached to this statement.
If it’s a choice between standing at a bar with Michael Gove and the imposition of a totalitarian new world order, I’ll take the second option, all day long.
Loathesome he may be, but I’ll have that beer with Gove thanks.
Drink enough beer and the pain of the encounter is dulled… In fact if you get Gove drunk, startling revelations might emerge, like “Thish ish all bullshit, you know…”
what about standing or bending in some bushes on hampstead heath or a banana party @dolphin square ?
how will friend of jimmy saville gove manage that is the issue here
Now Now Gwyn, there are worst things in life admittedly, not many, than standing at a bar with Michael Gove, the smell of bullshit for one would be too much to bear! However, better standing at a bar where you can move away from the bullshit than a new world totalitarian order!!
Okay, Jo – I’m prepared to admit that standing at a bar with Gove might be marginally better than living in a totalitarian system.
(But only on account of the possibility of removing myself from that slimy bullshitter’s side).
Ah Gwyn, you’ll need that mask to shut out the smell of such pungent excrement that you will not be able to abide it!!
These idiots love their publicity!
The Corona plandemic has run its course I believe and there will not really be a second wave, just a taper. What the psyop has done, is condition the mentally fragile to the new world normal, more fear, less freedom, less money, less prosperity and less security. Phase two is set to kick off in September, a modified Coxsackievirus, strain A, I believe, that generally attacks the young. Not super fatal in its natural form but the Fort Dietrich version may me a little more so, I do not know that detail. ( I am guessing at the US origin) What matters more is a second acquiescence to a lockdown scenario, by most folks, this is programming Pavlov’s dog. Eventually that will pass and there will be an even more shit “new normal” Then part three of the 5 year plan kicks in, and I have no time line, but… Read more »
What is your source for the September Phase 2?
The important point missed here is that both men were part of the very select secret group Sage making the decision. Both pressured the group for locdown and were influential in decision
Cummings we are told is the Brexiters hero, so a lot here will defend him.
It’s a fake Brexit. I sooner the Remoaners get their pyrrhic victory and we get the chance to have another go.
No, don’t worry you will destroy the economy and the UK, it will go ahead, you can see now how determined ‘they’ are to destroy the British economy. Brexit is like Covid it destroys the British economy.
How did Cummings’s travels become public knowledge – does anyone know? I’m sure there have been many officials “breaking the lockdown” but how did we come to hear about Cummings?
Was it leaked to the press – if so, there’s the story. Whoever leaked it wants belongs to another camp. Is this a power struggle? If it is over policy, then what’s at issue?
Indeed, they collect shit on all ministers so they can pull the plug when they want. That is what I think the expenses scandal was all about, collecting shit to blackmail our MP’s.
From Cummings I suspect. Imagine if we actually
got angry about the apocalyptic shit-storm that’s coming?! – no, we’d prefer you direct your considerable ire towards this nonsense if you don’t mind.
+1
We’re being played from *so very many angles* now..
It was probably leaked by some insider who wanted to f””k him over as part of the sort of government/security service infighting that is probably reaching vicious levels right now, but of which we are only allowed carefully controlled and perhaps misleading snippets, if anything at all.
Moneycircus, apparently, it was a neighbour who dobbed him into the police because they had seen him and his family enter his sister’s home and then witnessed loud music blaring out and him playing with his son in the garden and more besides! I don’t think the police ever intended on doing anything except that Piers Morgan went large on it and most of the MSM followed. His number plate was picked up by an automated number plate recognition system at Barnard Castle.
Whilst I have no sympathy for Cummings, I suspect this kerfuffle to be a part of the ongoing trend we have seen since Starmer became Labour’s leader. Starmer mill be prime minister sooner rather than later (probably before the year is out) because he is a better neoliberal fit for the Establishment than Bojo and his lot. There will be plenty more of this, and it aint got anything to do with the current manufactured virus crisis.
Absolutely on the money with your assessment of Stoma. Harold Wilson and my father will be turning right now.
Politics is nothing more than a fucking soap opera, played out before the masses who are too blind to see.
An arm of business interest, is what it has become.
And very probably, tax-deductible.
Absolutely right I think, the superkapitalists don’t care about party name as long as good neoliberalism is the agenda.
Tony, yep, Stoogie Starmer is more right wing than Thatcher. Suits the MSM well as he is now their stooge and that of the BoD. There is no robust opposition or criticism coming from him at all. At least Corbyn took on the MSM as did Gordon Brown and both were subjected to the most evil press campaign ever in our parliamentary history. As was Ed Milliband. I haven’t seen Starmer even bother to mount an opposition on the key issues such as the lockdown. He is a yes man, a Tory and a useless and worthless waste of space. I have voted Labour all my life. Jeremy Corbyn was like a breath of fresh air focused on the nation, the people and the economy an on justice. Whilst Stoogie and his right wing shadow cabinet head up the Labour Party I will never vote for them again. I will… Read more »
Totally right, Starmer doesn’t have to say anything or even have any policies, and he is still painted in a positive light. Already he’s been instrumental in covering up the Corbyn antisemitism smear by the right of the party (incidentally, why I had my account closed on the guardian, who were very obviously complicit in the coordinated establishment smear, and are shitting themselves that the truth ever comes out)
The man is a figurehead of the neoliberal consensus, so long as they have an opposition like that, there is no opposition at all …
Hi Jamie, sorry to hear about your situation with The Guardian. It has become an establishment shill, no, in fact, it has become a propagnda cheer leader for this corrupt Government so I guess there is no loss to you there. They have now started on mounting an anti-China narrative in keeping with the propaganda currently being peddled by, our loosely defined as a Government, but in reality a group of sociopath liars with serious messianic delusions.
I don’t know if you have seen the Steve Bell cartoon about the Dom’s breach of lockdown rules trip to Durham! It’s brilliant. Also, in it, Steve Bell has produced a caricature of Stoogie Starmer sitting in the back seat looking absolutely gormless. I love Steve Bell – only good thing in The Guardian!
Cummings “crime” is he’s made many enemies in the conservative party and they wish to damage him ass much as possible, assisted by areas of the press and some opinion polls (YouGov). This has little or nothing to do with covid-19 and everything to do with Cummings telling May’s cabinet colleagues that “half of them wouldn’t be there tomorrow”. Not a fan of Cummings myself but he’s not afraid to tell someone that they’re “thick as mince, lazy as a toad and vain as Narcissus”.
And the conservatives who came out and attacked him are mostly Remoaners.
>Cummings “crime” is he’s made many enemies
“Enemies” should also be in double quotes.
#playedSoHard
Lundiel, I guess the statements in your last sentence that he was talking about himself. These are not words that you use with colleagues in a professional environment. It is called verbal abuse, bullying, harassment and designed to belittle and humiliate. Who is he that he thinks this is o.k. behaviour in a work place?
No. He was talking about David Davis and his comments were very perceptive and very rude. It was not bullying because he was describing Davis to someone else who leaked the comments. It is highly unusual for any MP to be called out, the old boys network means that no matter how useless an MP is, s/he escapes any real judgement. Another example is Christopher Chope MP, a renown filibuster who described commons staff as “servants” and voted agoainst the minimum wage on the grounds that it would “stop housewives from earning a pound an hour pin-money”.
It’s long past time we stopped bowing and scraping to these prima donnas and nothing Cummings said was a lie.
Lundiel, I do agree with you about MPs, especially Tory ones, not being challenged or accountable in any way, I do not think that Cummings, a psychopath, a liar and someone who, it is said in Westminster, has the most aggressive, evil temper resorting frequently to serious fist thumping on table antics when people do not agree with him or he is not getting his own way. He is not, in any way, the right person to be making comments, especially of this nature, about colleagues, MPs or anyone in fact, especially given his deliberate and wilfull flouting of the Lockdown rules for which he, unlike other members of the public, has not been sanctioned in anyway.
Careful not to play right into the hands of the mind controllers “making enemies” us v them . Its like CIA’s Wiki , only information they want you to know if they didn’t want you to know the ministers flout the rules they make you wouldn’t . Its not just meme “the establishment saying the rules don’t apply to puppet minions = do what I say not as I do” (when you are angry at their national govt maybe its time for openly global govt) . But it is trying to find govt puppet scapegoat for people to get feel angry/jealous at. Maybe you feel angry, powerless oppressed and the ego-mind controllers want you to feel all that. Fear, jealously and anger all negatives to bring into the world. Used to control people’s minds and make the banksters profitable wars. How does that look fear anger & isn’t that part… Read more »
Good point, Cummings: evil Machiavelli, Mr. Punch, boo, hiss,kick him out……Policy continues unaffected.
I dunno. They’re powerful but they’re not omnipotent. And they have factions in their own ranks that will find and use information — like violating a lockdown — to work their own agendas. I think it’s definitely true that most people wouldn’t know about any of these rule violations, if powerful people didn’t want us to know. That their intent is to remind us of the rich/poor double standard on rules seems a stretch, especially since there isn’t a literate person on earth who isn’t aware of that double standard already. In the states, Fox News did the heavy lifting on Cuomo, and I think that networks alignment with the anti-lockdown right, and their hypocritical obsession with liberal hypocrisy explains it well enough. Whatever the intent of the exposure was, I see no evidence that the incidents with Cuomo, Cummings and Ferguson were staged. Therefore I think the point of… Read more »
I see I have once again made a case against something no one said. I’ll try to stop scanning. But as with last time I did this. I still don’t entirely agree. “Us and Them” is a good thing, when the Us is ruling class clerks and enforcers like those discussed in the post. Yeah, they want to stir us up, but they’re careful to do it in a context that reinforces the narrative, rather than calling out the lie the infractions by Cuomo, Ferguson and Cummings expose.
As for all the psychic wounds that make these people do what they do, IDGAF. Most people are wounded, and a large minority are walking wrecks. Very few act like these predators, who’d kill you as soon as it suited them to do so.
Calamity Jane, as this article states, the furore is that he got caught didn’t he and reported. As did Jenrick, Ferguson, the senior police office, the Tory MP this week. What is being said loudly and clearly by TPTB is that this whole thing is a scam which is why we don’t give a damn about breaking the rules but you, the proles, you are expendable cannon fodder to be arrested, imprisoned and fined for refusing to obey TPTB.
In the new industrial state from JK Galbraith (1967), Galbraith says: ‘there has been a large expansion in enrollment for higher education together with a somewhat more modest increase in the means for providing it. This has been attributed to a new and penetrating concern for popular enlightenment. [however], it has deeper roots. Had the economic system need only for millions of unlettered proletarians, these, very plausibly, are what would be provided.’ Now I know that Covid19 is being used as a cover for the inevitable implosion of the economy (due to endless QE and buyback of stocks without producing anything ‘real’). And I know that ‘we’ are going to pay for it so that ‘they’ can continue their great Ponzi-schemes yet again. But Covid19 has this ‘side-effect’ of getting rid of lots of jobs. And probably many jobs will be lost in the bullshit sector, which is the academy.… Read more »
Thank you Willem. I have often suspected Lysenkoism afflicts modern science but you are the first to call it from within medicine. It is a deeply troubling phenomenon as it reflects the worst aspects of communism, as it claims to validate the Marxist ideas of social engineering that led to millions of deaths. Of course we see it in identity politics too and throughout academia in the concept that environment can overrule biology. Academic tricks like claiming that the previous generation’s research is always out of date, means they never have to show any proofs for their work or explain inconsistencies, only produce some new rabbit out of a hat. Postmodernists are especially fond of this. J.K. Galbraith was a wonderful observer. I only wish his long life could have been longer. His acerbic wit and the cold anger of his writing was driven by what he witnessed in the… Read more »
Never heard of epigenetics or natural selection then.
Great article as usual , but why is no one listening is the bigger question ?
Our democracies have been set-up, now the process will begin to make them look stupid and for the far right to take advantage. It was the US far-right deep state and the CIA who created this Covid scam and it is their useless puppets who are implementing it, but the ultimate aim is to over throw the puppets and install far-right leaders in every western democracy, because that is what the USA does in every country they want to control.
Johnnyrotten. Agreed mostly. I have a glimmer of hope though. Firstly, the African Nations are stepping to challenge WHO and the established narrative. Secondly, Microman in France has lost his majority in Parliament due to the defection of some MPs in his party to a more left wing orientated party. The Yellow Vests will be out again soon as will the Black Book. Spain has a Socialist Prime Minister and Party in Government. We of course, here in the UK, have a far right leader and Government clearly elected in a clearly manipulated election and the same is true in Australia. However, I am not so sure now that the USA is dominant in world politics, that influence has been steadily declining. At the moment, I think they are a loose cannon careering wildly out of control to protect their own vested interests and new world order dreams. China is… Read more »
Keyboard tracker loaded….. check, IP address logged….. check, lets go!….the guardian honey trap is open for business, which provides GCHQ with the thoughts of those they have blocked, deleted and banned from the rest of the MSM. They know too well, that what is said here is a better measure of what people are thinking than the endless comments by the 77th brigade and the US troll farms in the Guardian and the Daily mail comments pages.
We are contributing to an essential deep state service which explains the menacing far-fight presence that hovers in the background of many of the articles and the comments on here.
The important thing to know is that they are more scared of us than we are of them. they are terrified of a popular uprising, against the one party state in the US, their oligarchs and against the American Empire and dollar overseas. They are terrified and have every reason to be. But be aware they are well prepared, and have created a fake counter culture around the far right, who are their fake opposition, their faux revolutionary forces, who are poised to steal the thunder from any real uprising. Amongst the uneducated and ill informed, this has powerful resonance and is well designed to hijack any real revolution. Many here have fallen for and feel ready to attack some fantasy ‘international globalist conspiracy’ without realising that you are as much a tool or useful idiots of the US deep state as Johnson or Cummings. If you are in 77th… Read more »
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Jack/Jim/Kim . . . take your pick. This is fun 😎
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Johnnyrotten. Brilliant. Let’s not forget of course, that Israel controls our Parliament here in the UK and the Republican Party in the USA. They are the country that are causing many problems around the world with USA backing. The dollar is waning. The petro dollar is waning. Rome wasn’t built in a day, but it was built.
BC, Before Covid, AC, After Covid, and the disappearance of Social Justice Warriors. BC SJWs were the driving force – in the media, shaming presenters, or on campus, cancelling speech. With one or two exceptions, SJWs have gone silent. I’m not going into the politics but asking: AC is the Covid panic somehow filling emotional and political needs that previously drove SJWs? Is the hand washing, clapping, mask wearing and snitching on neighbors satisfying the need for outward displays of virtue? Is there no longer a need to strut your righteousness when you can maintain and display your purity in medical ways? Is there no longer a need to cancel and shame people when you can simply report them to the police? I admit I don’t go on Facebook so someone will have to tell me if the online displays of virtue continue unabated. Maybe SJWs are alive and kicking… Read more »
It is so weird that you people consider yourselves under attack from the left, as your hospitals are privatised, your wages reduced and your unions abolished and regulations introduced to protect you, through hard struggle and street battles, are abolished. Isn’t it the right who are destroying your lives not the left. Your biggest compliant seems to be that some people are caring about others? and that people cared about blacks, trans and the poor, the people you call Social Justice Warriors Whilst it is true that the left have been almost abolished and the faux left are only allowed now to fight issues around gender and race and never economic issues, which is what the left was founded on, this does not mean that race and gender issues are wrong. If you really care about your own well-being than help create a left wing with teeth that can take… Read more »
Johnny I don’t consider SJWs to be the ‘left’ nor do I think they care about others. Identity politics does nothing for the dispossessed. It is a complete distraction from real issues like labor rights or racism. Do y0u seriously think virtue-signalling “woke” posts are “caring about others”. They are about looking good to one’s Facebook friends. They do absolutely jack all for those who face real discrimination.
There is nothing wrong in saying good things, it can help, and arguing with homophobes and racists is good, perhaps even setting them on the right path. As I said the left are now forced only to deal with none threatening issues for the neoliberal project, so we agree on that, but as I say it does not make ‘virtue signalling’ wrong, all they need to do is more ‘economic justice’ signalling.
This is a very typically dishonest reply to complaints about so-called SJWs. Most people who lament SJWs reject your premise, that they care more deeply than others, and the assumption that finger-waving, mischaracterizing and smearing people online is an effective way to achieve their ostensible goals.
You and I undoubtedly differ on the categories of left and right. I don’t use the term SJW because of its association with people I dislike just as much. However, I think it describes a thing, and this thing is, to me, entirely divorced from anything resembling a coherent leftist critique. So you find SJWs arguing all sides of any question depending on what the advantages are. In practice online, it’s hasbara-like in how it attempts to silence people and close debate. I think people on the right who use the term, see it mostly as a meat shield for riff raff like Hillary Clinton, and they’re not at all wrong about that.
It’s the Rightwing Paranoid Style, plus a refusal to see straight. ‘Social Justice’ does not merely send them into a Pavlovian rage, but it does not compute.
Johnnyrotten. Absolutely right of course. It is the far right that is the problem. I cannot understand the down votes though because what you say is true.
I think you may have a point.
I sometimes lurk in corners of the internet inhabited by Marxists with SJW characteristics, and over there, there is a lot of finger-waving to the effect that given the higher infection and death rate among Black people, being against lockdowns is racist. People who insist there are other health and social considerations besides the unique vulnerablity of sick old people are accused of “culling” and “eugenics.” So I don’t think people who weaponize an alleged concern for social justice to paralyze critical thinking and fruitful debate are going anywhere anytime soon.
One can try to shake those who are fast becoming unthinking slaves, who think their lives lives can be saved from a ‘deadly virus’ by wearing a cheap mask and avoiding an infected person at all times by a distance of 6ft. This is the narrative of a cheap and purile soap opera. We had the same morons back in the 80’s & 90’s when Saddam and Gaddafi were evil monsters and morons everywhere were scared crazy by their gov’t’s propaganda regarding big guns and chemical weapons, which the west supplied. The WMD did not materialise and some morons who called for Saddam’s head started to smell a rat. Which turned out to be Blaaar and his lairs chorus. Everyone has been told to avoid each other. Hospitals have been closed and those open are way below capacity. The staff keep themselves sane by posting stupid videos on youtube because… Read more »
I’ll leave you to say this, because I couldn’t put it better myself.
Hi Peter, this should be Writ Large in every public place.
Thinking about the Cummins business, I think its about serving multiple agendas: 1) Misdirect public anger over how its been handled (explicitly not about whether its fake) into a fake protest group, that will be used to marginalise real protest. Effectively divide and conquer 2) Rubbing our noses in it to remind us the elites will always flout the rules and that they are above the law (which feeds into number 1) and theres nothing we can do about it 3) Governments are expendable (they are middle managers after all), but the media and the ‘science’ is not. They need to keep people’s faith in the media at all costs to enforce compliance. They can bring in a controlled opposition very easily 4) Possible Brexit revenge 5) Distraction/Confusion. Coerce people away from real news that the narrative is falling everywhere, to keep them occupied with nonsense. Virtually all op-ed pieces… Read more »
It may have been suggested already but MSM was starting to cover the all important question. Why the hell is the country locked down based on false projections and panic inspired decisions?.
Along comes a story about a member of the government breaking lockdown – and all hell breaks loose. Ones who benefit from this distraction are those which made the stupid decisions.
But I think the relevant questions will be asked and the public will react when they realise they’ve been taken for mugs. Mind you, if Id been publicly pushing for lockdown and taken in the way some have, Id be too embarrassed to say anything again on the matter.
While I think there is some truth in this, offering Cummings up as a snack will only last as a diversion for a few days. Sooner or later they are going to have to face the music in a more substantial way.
It doesnt matter how absurd it is, rest assured they will find someway to distract the people with pointless nonsense. You couldnt make any of this shit up, but they do, each and every day, which is how they keep their fraudulent power.
It will be interesting how they spin track and trace as more people become aware of its inconvenience of having to self isolate at a moments notice regardless of work commitments. Unless its a tool to detain dissenters.
Waldorf, Cummings deserves public condemnation and severe at that. He is dangerous, psychopathic, hidden and has, from what I can see, an advanced psychopathic personality disorder. Add this to Johnson’s pathological lying and his advanced narcissistic personality disorder you have a deeply concerning cabal calling itself a Government in control of this country. It is causing serious damage to the country, to the economy and to the UK’s standing in the world. However, psycopaths and narcissists don’t care about these things, they can only see themselves, their hunger for power and total power at that and lining their own pockets.
Totally agree especially with the first couple. Especially point two which makes even more sense when you factor in Glaxo.
A recent message from my contact in the Czech Republic:
In most respects, they’ve always been a lot more relaxed than the UK about this whole thing.
If you haven’t listened to this interview from two days ago, between Patrick Henningsen, and journalist and historian Olsi Jazexhi from Tirana, Albania, it’s worth a listen. Olsi speaks about how Albania has handled the lockdown, and how it almost(maybe will?) led to the people of Albania overthrowing their President. Here’s the link:
https://www.spreaker.com/user/acrnetwork/no-sign-of-second-wave-with-guest-olsi-j?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=user%3A7623132&utm_term=episode_title
Tbilisi, Georgia, where I am, has had a very loose lockdown. Masks required in shops and limited numbers of customers at any one time, plus, for some reason, a nighttime curfew.
Otherwise, no restrictions on meeting, greeting, visiting, walking, choosing to be inside or out. Restrictions were lifted two days ago.
So far, total number of deaths attributed to Covid…. 12.
Thank you, Moneycircus, for that information:)
Violent demonstrations against Rama is Albania have been going for many months and had escalated previously. Also the Balkan countries had similar numbers of alleged infections, something that is largely due to their secondary role in global economics and affairs but also due to their Geographic location, further east from the main hits in Europe. This partly explains the low numbers in Greece as well (alongside with government propaganda and the fact that such viruses hit in winters, not a tourist season for Greece, or Croatia for that matter..
Thank you, Kostas, for your information:)