WATCH: Anna Brees interviews Prof. Robert Endres
Prof Robert Endres is leader of the biological physics group and the physics of life network at Imperial College London. He sits down with independent journalist Anna Brees to discuss his issues with the Imperial Model.
“I am a fundamental research scientist who uses his quantitative physics background to analyse biological data and to develop predictive models, mostly for processes at the cellular scale. In this interview, I discuss the importance of a broad public debate of the Covid-19 health crisis, which should encompass the various scientific opinions, as well as their implications for our society and economy.
Regarding scientific approaches, I would like to see the same rigorous scientific criteria applied as the ones we expect our students to use on a daily basis, in particular the critical assessment of the limitations of the methods and obtained results.”
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The physicist doesn’t know why the UK government is doing what’s it’s doing? Okay. I can’t say I’m impressed. This is an effect of technocracy. Everyone is specialized into stupidity. He’s got smarts I’d give my right arm to possess. But, in regard to covid 19, he doesn’t understand what’s going on. He needs to get his head out of his specialized field (more; at least he’s talking to Anna) more often and look around (tv doesn’t count).
This ‘guest’ doesn’t want to dump on Bill Gates clearly. .Gates,as i pointed out in my recent post, knows that everyone has their price.That extends to institutions too.Where Bill plants money, Bill controls the narrative.In this case he used the tactics of his favourite book( again, in my recent post) to create global fear( problem) and provoke a reaction( fear of imminent death of anyone regardless of age or health) so he could arrive like big John ‘the dook’ Wayne with the Vaccines( solution). It’s an old tactic.Fear is the greatest propaganda tool to those whose long term aim is to get the masses to yield to their will out of desperation.A brief googling of Ferguson’s record will explain why Gates hand picked him.His subsequent breaking of the lockdown laws he used his model to create only served to damage his reputation, and that of the college, further.This shill in… Read more »
I’m not sure how widespread this is and sorry if it’s a bit off topic but here in Philippines private hospitals are being funded directly from Manila government for Covid 19 related cases. I know of one such case, untested but 99% not Covid where the cost was first massively inflated and then passed to government for payment. That would be a corruption funded statistic.
I wonder if our modeler friends remembered to factor that one into the equation?
The other point is that until such time as we are provided with a plausible explanation for why a world lockdown was necessary for a new disease comparable with many others already existing, then the term Conspiracy Theory is not applicable…
Tuueyes These are the questions we are trying to find answers to on this site. I think we have largely managed to sort the wood from the trees it is now the time to analyse what we have.
You can take the girl out of the mainstream but you can’t take the mainstream out of the girl…. Anna seems to have a foot in each camp.On the one hand she’s outing the mainstream censorship and official narratives, on the other she’s allowing a platform for those working for it and taking it’s dollar…shills like this German one. All roads crawl to Gates… On another vid, Anna makes a barbed and needless remark about David Icke.The so called conspiracy theorist who was exposing crap like this when she was still in school. For Anna… David Icke called Neal Ferguson out first.He exposed his dire history using his ‘models’. Especially the one he used for the Foot and Mouth in the UK.But that wasn’t the only mess.And his numbers used in his projections were ridiculous. He predicted 500,000 deaths in the UK alone.David Icke exposed Ferguson’s model… Read more »
PS
https://www.gatesnotes.com/Books/How-to-Lie-with-Statistics
I have come across the following interview – originally censored from You Tube – Patrick Bet-David did with Dr Judy A Mikovits PHD about such things as her fallout with Anthony Fauci that led to her 5 year gag order and whistleblower status and her work on AIDS/HIV, although she makes interesting points in passing about Covid, which she describes as “propaganda masquerading as science.”
https://www.patrickbetdavid.com/former-aids-scientist-calls-out-dr-faucis-medical-corruption/
‘Domestic abuse…’ switched off there. Video-maker carries a Feminist mindset? We have pressing issues of CHILD abuse and other abuse, but the old ‘domestic abuse’ tag is now a favourite of Feminists, who have gendered it, and used it to prioritise women over children and men, with mangled, one-sided ‘statistics’. Sorry if I’m misjudging this person, she may have been using it in its proper context, but I’m not prepared to risk yet another Feminist narcissist. Not good for my digestion. Much prefer Karen Straughan and Paul Elam. Well done to Prof Endres for coming forward though.
Bill Holter and Jim Sinclair predicting the covid19 scam to cover the financial crash:
https://youtu.be/m8NOBxM_3Po
28.20 mins in.
“The system’s gonna go down. So why not create a false flag, and kick the table over, and point at it and say “our policies would have worked if it were not for” whatever event they come up with.”
Thank you for this interview. It is so fascinating and refreshing to listen to some open discussion, to support debates, without having the usual nonsense shoved down the throat.
If interested here’s Celente’s wonderful rant earlier this week…
The above video is not what I originally posted (Huh?!). I posted Gerald Celente…
Great rant. I never realised the crime was a forged banknote. Have you seen Bresson’s film “L’Argent”? Bresson had a few problems with the press…
A physicist commenting on what — freedom of press, censorship, economics, etc? What at freak. Again, this is not news, and she is not a journalist. Give us a break.
Brees has done stirling work uncovering high level child abuse in the UK (I’m talking about the rape and murder of children here), child abuse that the likes of the 77th Brigade continue to cover up.
By definition the 77th Brigade are a bunch of highly criminal lunatics who are going to get what’s coming to them.
Don’t say you haven’t been warned, you psychos who cover up the rape and murder of children.
And don’t even get me started on MI5 and MI6, who are also complete fecking criminal psychos.
UK Column News presenters have talked a lot about the child abuse in the UK and Scotland where the perversity is deep and disgusting. There are actually interrelated agendas at work here. Catherine Austin Fitts, in her discussion with James Corbett, notes that the transgender movement is a part of it. (I am pro human rights and will remain so, but there are elements to this movement that are unsupportable.) I looked at NuNuNu, and Celine’s creepy advert about it, on my blog. (“Do you belong to the war-making State or to God?” / https://arrby.wordpress.com/2019/11/12/do-you-belong-to-the-war-making-state-or-to-god/) They want to genetically modify us, patent and own us, turn us into controllable cyborgs and establish absolute, God-like control over us and the entire planet. (My view is that they are calling the real God to “Bring it!” by their actions. They are trampling on his standards daily, convinced, but never sufficiently, that he’s… Read more »
If everyone should stick to commenting on what they are qualified to talk about, then Bill Gates should stop commenting about vaccines as if he were an expert in the field.
Ferguson’s credentials are all in order, yet he’s habitually wrong. But who am I to judge? I’m not an epidemiologist.
You’re a bigoted idiot, and you comment on everything.
You have no self awareness do you Richard.
Better check with Paul on whether you have sufficient expertise to adjudicate the question of his stupidity.
This is it from some grand inquisitor from South Philly. Again, you are part of the dime a dozen, keyboard hacks, winners of all thumbs up or arrows into place where the sun don’t shine. Amazing how stupid the retorts are.I’ll take a few people talking and having an exchange with real journalists and humans than this group-grope. I have zero idea who South Philly Tube Steak is, but in reality, I doubt you could articulate a complete sentence in a true forum of public opinion,. but shoot me then. “Bigoted idiot” is the fun line old Philly Steak is commenting on. Anna the Udemy and Vimeo hucksater: “I was offered a full-time job back at the BBC but decided to turn it down, because I believe journalism is about the pursuit of truth. Now we have the technology and the platforms on which to broadcast, my new purpose… Read more »
Lockdown getting to ya, bub, or did this problem start sooner?
I’m neither bigoted or an idiot.
A statement stands or fails on its merits. A physicist who does modeling at the same college can certainly speak to how unscientific and how unorthodox Ferguson’s process was. As for freedom of the press, censorship and a collapsing economy, anyone who’s affected can speak to that in the general terms most people understand them. The idea that only highly specialized “experts” can speak on matters gravely affecting all of us is so utterly ridiculous, I can’t imagine you’re serious.
It would explain why a few billion people are sitting typing as a software ‘expert’ is prescribing ‘medicine’ for them..the same software expert who pays vast sums of money to the college housing this ‘expert’ and Ferguson( when he isn’t running about ignoring is own lockdown recommendations)
God, Anna shows her colors, with her genuflecting to those top three colleges in the UK. Jesus, echo chamber. She is out of her league, and the PhD is just another guy, white guy, with tenure, in UK, Christ. Move over white people . . . but, Off Guardian is that white man’s/woman’s love fest.
Shes flogging her courses using youtube as free marketing platform cos the BBC booted her out/or she left, either way its a nothing burger, hes the most educated of all her interviews (look at her other vids) but still sucked in by a pretty face (i would be too) ;-).
Really, sucked in by her Scottish white pasty face? Really? Too many smiles, too many softball and powder puff questions. Some of us are real journalists, with years working day to day on newspaper beats, beating our heads against whores in the editors’ box, the whores in business, the whores in government, the whores in the police agencies, and the whores who want real reporters to shut the eff up. I ended up with ex-CIA in Guatemala, with drug dealers in Chihuahua and with cops in El Paso, and not one time did I have this bullshit smile and groveling like this person shows. It’s a waste of cloud energy, time and, been there and done that with the crap on Off Guardian a million times. Not sure how to respond to your freaky public admitting you have some sucked in thing by a “pretty face.” Pretty sad sack, Objective,… Read more »
I can do without Mr Perfect, you quacks like one, cmon …
This is it? Mister Perfect? Nah, we don’t want to be precise and smart and systems thinkers, we just want to shoot from the hip and be all we can be by getting on You Tube or Off Guardian, and let it rip. Perfectly stupid retort, so next time, try and not be perfectly on target.
Relax, you’ve got to over excited & confused about my post.
I mean’t after 2 minutes I only kept watching cos shes pleasant on the eyes. She clearly had very little of interest to say, after all she gave ferguson the benefit of doubt & is X-BBC.
She has a certain attraction, especially for shallow fellows like me who go for that wild long-haired look. She has also perfected the art of looking into the camera, not at a screen, so you think she is really talking to you; a bit too close to the camera, so literally “in your face”.
Like you though, I waited for her to say something really interesting, and waited in vain. I thought Endres was quite interesting though, and if you look at his background, he is no lightweight, although probably in too obscure a field to be controversial.
@Paul: Is she Scottish? I would not have guessed so from her accent, which sounded something like Reading, to me.
God, you people are really boring, and you are all going to be held to account. Here’s a small taste of what’s coming for you…
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1268144640043122691
And this was Paris yesterday afternoon…
https://twitter.com/ChalecosAmarill/status/1267933980009148418
Do you psychos really think you can stop this?
No, she just says they are the top three universities in the UK, as you also confirm.
A LIT MATCH INTO A TINDER-DRY FOREST It was decided in January by the usual crooks to use COVID-19 to veil an impending financial collapse, hence allowing trillions to be transferred to Wall Street and the big banks. It also permitted the restructuring of the economy where bankrupt businesses were consolidated into existing monopolies. In other words, a few multinational corporations absorbed numerous small businesses and ancillary properties. U.S. billionaires saw their fortunes soar by $434 billion during the lockdown between mid-March and mid-May. Bezos added $34.6 billion to his wealth and Zuckerberg picked up $25 billion. The enforced lockdowns massively expanded unemployment and left millions in poverty. If a sociopath wanted to design a plan to trigger social unrest the COVID-19 lockdowns was the perfect strategy. The lockdowns produced intense social anxiety so that any horrific social injustice would unleash massive outrage, especially from the young. Agitation caused by the lockdown produced a tenseness so when Floyd’s horrific… Read more »
@Charlotte Russe: “U.S. billionaires saw their fortunes soar by $434 billion during the lockdown between mid-March and mid-May. Bezos added $34.6 billion to his wealth and Zuckerberg picked up $25 billion.”
Links, please. You talk sense as usual, Charlotte, but I am keen to document my recent online course: How to Make Money by Trashing the Economy.
“The best time to make money is when there is panic on the streets”. — Rockefeller
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-billionaires-434-billion-richer-during-pandemic-report-2020-5
Thanks for the Links, Charlotte. I have included them as Lesson #6. My clip (below) is rather lengthy but I hope Admin will post it as relevant to fleshing out your post above. Clip from How to Make Money by Trashing the Economy Lesson #1: Vaccine Options “Executives of vaccine developer Moderna cash in, cut corners”. Describes how Moderna’s executives used the old pump’n’dump trick of trading options: “Last week, Moderna’s stocks skyrocketed 30 percent after the Media touted Moderna’s announcement that its coronavirus vaccine trial had elicited neutralizing antibodies as a cure for the pandemic [ Con19 ]. The Dow shot up 900 points in the resulting stock market frenzy. The company’s value swelled to $29 billion despite not having had any products in the markets to date. Over the weekend, Moderna’s CFO, Lorence Kim, exercised 241,000 options for $3 million on Monday. He then immediately sold them… Read more »
Medical profiteers are similar to war profiteers…..
This whole thing follows a template very much like the one used to go to war. In both cases, consolidating wealth and power seem pretty much the whole point.
Below in this thread I’ve called for more discussion of the pretext of this virus show, the WHY of it, so I would like to offer something on it, hopefully not too long. It seems to me ousting Trump, in itself, is sufficient to explain the pretext of the exaggerated pandemic, but likely there is more involved in terms of what I call “a consortium of special interests.” Related is the question of accidental versus purposeful as to how the virus started, with more now in the press leaning toward it was created in a lab. As to “accidentally” that is a cautious view, whereas “purposefully” will be considered “conspiracy theory” and dismissed as such. Over recent decades of false flags and pretexts, however, “purposefully” has some plausibility. But why? To what ends, if we explore this “purposeful” scenario? I assume that releasing the virus in Wuhan was arranged… Read more »
This fellow obviously doesn’t wish to dump on his former fellow academic and has a very tempered approach, but when ‘models’ start at 150 to 200 million world deaths, closer examination is needed. Previous models from the same source were outrageously overstated by many orders of magnitude, and just plain wrong. Surely that should have tempered acceptance by those in public heath having influence. One might just as well put 2^30 in a calculator and say a billion people would die in 30 days. Also, infections are not ‘cases’, and by the time the vaccine arrives, Covid 20 will be here. The media, and apparently most politicians, have great difficulty understanding this – or do they really want to? … Ousting Trump is more likely based on 1: He’s from Queens NY; a bit too ‘street’ for the smooth boys. 2: He threatened the bureaucracy – but review old episodes… Read more »
Yes, I’m not at all sure the strategy I was posing from “the orchestrators” would actually work in terms of pulling Trump further down in winning 2020. That may be backfiring in terms of getting nis numbers up. What I meant by 1968 and Kent State was that the police brutality at that time backfired into inflaming an even larger movement against the war. I believe protest then did have an impact on shortening it.
In your opening sentence I’m assuming you’re referring to Ioannidis?
My opening sentence refers to, Endres, in the interview. Nevertheless, government(s) embraced this scenario to impose draconian response. My initial reaction several months ago was wonderment; i.e. ‘What is going on?’, and hasn’t changed. Additionally, the numbers can’t be believed due to case and death inflation. We will probably never know. Neil Ferguson’s team at Imperial College — has a track record of over-estimating deaths in epidemics. And we’re not just talking about small over-estimations. For instance: – In 2002, they estimated 50,000 deaths from Mad Cow Disease. The actual number was under 200. – SARS (2002-2003) was supposed to kill perhaps “millions,” based on analyses. It killed 744 before disappearing. – In 2005 they predicted 200 million global deaths from H5N1 bird flu, whereas the actual numbers are reckoned to be 455 worldwide. – In 2009, the team told the UK Government that 65,000 could die from swine flu… Read more »
I gave an extra think to your question, and for greater clarity, Endres as he refers to Ferguson/his work.
Thank you. Your information adds in significantly to studies being presented in these threads, new to me.I hope others take note. My understanding of Ferguson was much more limited previously. Also I’m reminded of comments by Dr. Judy Mikovits,linked to several times in previous O-G threads. Here’s one example: https://www.trunews.com/stream/edward-s-interview-of-dr-judy-mikovits-mp4 She is lucid and credible, plus has some 50 academic papers including critiquing vaccines and medicines that caused her to run afoul of Fauci and Big Pharma generally. Her comments on Fauci have led to her interview titled Plandemic being banned (it may be available again now), and she has been demonized following gestapo-like treatment previously. I believe the question of what’s going on must seriously be answered and looked into. Perhaps one day in the distant past the US was capable of coming up with an investigative committee that might do some decent work. This… Read more »
Mikovits is getting the Andrew Wakefield treatment. You can judge a person by their enemies.
Thanks for this and your other replies!
There is an interview with a Swiss medical professor and it made me understand much more about SC2. And now I understand also these “excessive deaths” in some countries. In this interview this professor explains what happens in probably most countries: People who were tested positive are sent home into quarantine. And there they sometimes die. This professor explains how SC2 works: SC2 causes death, because this virus agglutinates the blood. And those lumps of blood get into the lung and cause a thrombosis there. In the end this takes the lung out of function and leads to death by heart failure. The professor points out, that (sadly) international guidelines to not recommend drugs of hemodilution (thinning of the blood). Thus these drugs are not given to patients, who are sent home. Patients who are kept in hospitals though are given these drugs, if their condition worsens. This professor complains… Read more »
Willem has previously explained this situation several times, and mentioned that the appropriate medical treatment would be blood thinning drugs.
I would only add that I believe vitamin C in sufficiently high doses (and intravenously if in hospital), might be even more beneficial, as it can make blood less “sticky” and can reverse hypoxia, among its other benefits.
As it happens, I do not believe the agglutination of the blood is a direct result of the virus, but however it might be happening, vitamin C might be the most appropriate treatment.
I am not sure if this is going to work.It could be a problem – with the Off-G upgrade or my computer but, from my perspective, Admin1 Jun 3, 2020 2:26 PM No one has posted above your line, except to reply Here where we live, I suspect someone is attacking us on the internet, by regularly dumping vast quantities of shite on my PC, my wife’s PC, her mobile phone, and my Ex Tablet – now hers. Can whoever please stop doing it? I can clean up the crap, on both my wife’s and my PC’s but am a bit crap on Android Mobile phones, except I don’t have a problem on mine. But the fact of the matter is, there is still significant evidence of where I have lived for many years, of large numbers of bombs from German NAZI Aircraft dropping bombs in my road (lovely old… Read more »
Tony, do you use a firewall? I’d recommend to make sure the windows one is turned on as a minimum, which makes it far harder for someone to access your PC. Without one PC’s broadcast a list of virtual ‘ports’ which makes it easy for anyone into that kind of thing to connect to your PC.
Another poor excuse of a solution you can ‘thank’ Gates and co for.
This lady is a victim of her own good looks and is a poor interviewer. As an interviewer rule one is your opinions are not the focus. The guy being interviewed is too verbose as well. Not up to Off Guardians standards in my opinion.
Yes i found the video disorientating i liked looking at her close up but found it quite distressing he was so close to the camera & besides ( i know i’ll get frazzled for being a raciss) but i struggled to understand his accent so i kept looking at her 🙂 even that got a bit boring after 20 minutes so i gave up. A transcript with pictures would have been nice!
Wow! The French are going for it. Embracing the future, so to speak . . .
https://www.neowin.net/news/frances-contact-tracing-app-downloaded-600000-times-in-24-hours
Macron must have been busy.
being of neurotic disposition…would fit.
The following ambiguous picture is pretty famous, I think, and may define the situation I am in https://images.app.goo.gl/RoprvLAe5tiqznqQ7 It’s a picture which looks like a duck if you look at in one way, and a rabbit in another way. And although it is possible to see both the rabbit and the duck, you can’t see the rabbit and the duck at the same time! – the way to get out of this conundrum is easy: ask for more data. If I could show you the same picture but now with wings, you would know it’s a duck, while if I would show you the same picture with 4 legs, you would know that it’s a rabbit. The same applies with covid19 (and, now, with the ‘black lives matter’ protests). If you look at it in one way, my colleagues see in it what the media wants us to see (deadly… Read more »
On a slight tangent from your post. I think academia is the problem. To much reliance on “experts” & “technocrats”who mostly feel entilted by their beliefs not actual inconvenient facts.
This all started with the concept everyone is suited to higher education, indeed subjected to formal education, i think that’s one of the biggest human rights abuses of modern history, taking away every childs early years which are wasited years for many if not most.
Knowldege & learnign are of course good things but formal education isn’t for everyone, once youve been taught basic reading writing & maths skills, i think it should become a voluntary pursuit. of course it’s all part of the neo-liberal system of indoctrination. Education has been hijacked as much as journalism & science become a form of religious worship all for the globalist cause.
Great post Willem. I wonder if serious scholarship and rigorous research, which is more about process than product, is always a bit of a lonely gig. The reward structure in the academy seems now entirely about sending the right signals to those in charge, or who fund the work, than in trying to get things right. Humans are very good primates after all, very quick to sense what the zoo keeper wants in exchange for a tasty treat, and quite obliging as they deliver the goods. But among the lonely, the several millenia old project of serious inquiry and critical dialogue is appreciated when we encounter it. Keepers of the flame and all that.
Willem, Spot on. Yesterday, I read an article that Quite a number of Australian Universities are having to close due to lack of revenue and lack of students. I have a problem with academics too. A significant number, in my view, are not necessarily competent in their field, in fact some are downright incompetent. They get a cushy life, earn megabucks, fantastic numbers of weeks holidays and, quite frankly, deliver very little. After some years in this self-serving, self-congratulatory environment they get tenure, a living for life without having to prove yourself in anyway. And you are absolutely right, they live in their la la land in their tiny bubbles of speciality and that is their only truth. LIke you say, when the truth comes up and hits them on the head, they are unable to process it as it would destroy their tiny little worlds. Also, here in… Read more »
I have a long-held impression that most people, most of the time arrange their behaviour to a movie. That movie is a particular movie that they have chosen in their minds. It may sound strange, but that’s the best phrasing I come up with.
It is a myth that Potemkin ordered a building of a Potemkin village. It is, or appears true that people aspire to live in such a village.
Off-topic but very interesting:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine
“Surgisphere, whose employees appear to include a sci-fi writer and adult content model, provided database behind Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine hydroxychloroquine studies”
Yep Hydroxychloroquine is all good again!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31290-3/fulltext
That’s not the only medical back tracking
https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/coronavirus-ibuprofen-trial-for-hospitalised-patients-begins/
Now they claim ibuprofen is a cure not a killer for covid patients.
The campaign of outright lies, disinformation and intimidation surrounding HCQ, launched by BigPharma and its Medical Mafia stooges and the WHO, the vermin of the Western MSM and sundry other reprobates like the Trump Derangement Syndrome lunatics, is Standard Operating Procedure for capitalist ghouls only interested in profit. HCQ is cheap, safe and widely available, all contrary to BigPharma’s insistence on expensive garbage like remdesivir, and vaccines.
With due respect, at 22-26 Anna says “I have to trust Professor Neil Ferguson”. NO YOU DON’T. Science belongs to everybody. Also we should not defer to those managing “large amounts of data”: if simple data do not make sense then laying more on top is not science, it’s obscurantism.
Example: latest UK deaths 39,369; cases 227,985 (Worldometer). This gives a fatality ratio of 14.16%: “expert” estimates have varied between 0.1% and 3% (now headed to the low end). Three key numbers, at least one obviously wrong, identifiable by simple arithmetic. The pontificators should be made to explain such anomalies before moving on; journalists and MPs have a particular responsibility here and if they had done their (mostly well-paid) jobs we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Julian, good point about the IFR. It is, at least to me anyway, obvious that our figures are based on the poiticians sticking their finger in the air and making it up as they go along or where the wind blows so to speak or where they and the pseudo-scientists want it to blow. They are way out of sync with the rest of the world as you point out in the IFR expert calculations of between 0.1% and 3%. What I can see is that the pseudo-scientists in this country, the MSM and the Tory Government are using these blatantly falsified figures to make ridiculous statements about an alleged ‘2nd wave’, to prevent the lifting of lockdown and other solutions to the economic problems. We have no idea how many cases there are in this country or how many genuine deaths due to with or of CV-19 because… Read more »
Hi Jo I don’t know why it is but our politicians seem to like to engender the idea that we in the UK are somehow exceptional; so normality doesn’t apply to us. We are supposed to ignore what is happening in other countries because, for some reason not based on reality, they don’t have cause to suffer like we do. ‘Fate’ is being cruel to the UK for reasons best known to our politicians. We have to be seen to be top of the class for everything whether it is being the No 1 target for the ‘nasty Russians’, up there pursuing mendacious campaigns against ‘rogue regimes’ in the Middle East, and now the primary victims of ‘the [selective] virus’. If we didn’t know better, we might be tempted to think our victimhood was by design. In reality we are a nonentity of a country and have been for… Read more »
Puerile games? Sinister manipulation more likely!
Hi JudyJ I was thinking about this and you are right about us thinking that we are somehow exceptional. Looking back at our Government’s approach to the Brexit negotiations (with a team of highly skilled EU negotiators) our Government were using the language of war approaching the negotiations almost on a war footing, you know ‘we will get what we want’, the EU will cave in to our demands, we will defeat them and get what we want etc etc. They approached the negotiations as though the EU were our enemies rather than our allies. Several times the EU negotiators stated we had brought nothing to the table to negotiate but were rather making demands of the EU to give the UK an unprecedented one-sided trade deal. Of course, as we are leaving the EU it is for us to set out what we would like out of the negotiations.… Read more »
Forgive me for the rapid response to your choice semantics, but you’ll see I have a point:
“It is, at least to me anyway, obvious that our figures are based on the poiticians sticking their finger in the air and making it up as they go along or where the wind blows so to speak or where they and the pseudo-scientists want it to blow.”
Wherever they have been sticking that finger, or even that thumb, the politicians should listen to the same advice we just gave the wind (because it’s too often all that’s listening, anyway):
“It’s not what you know, it’s how you blow.”
Unfortunately for us, the politicians have mostly listened only to the “political” sense of those words.
Which is why they call themselves “politicians”.
Hence this mess.
Hi John, thanks for your prompt response. I hate to think where they have been sticking that finger!! That should be a slogan “It’s not what you know, it’s how you blow” – a lot of hot air at the moment!
Exactly right and as soon as someone says something like that you know YOU CAN’T TRUST THEM.
She has already shown she has bad judgement, she worked for the BBC, ffs. Thats a major alarm bell for me.
“With due respect, at 22-26 Anna says “I have to trust Professor Neil Ferguson”. NO YOU DON’T.”
Cmon, she means that we’re *supposed* to trust the people with a certain insight, no that we must …
*not* that we must …
Empirical Science – if and where it can obtain funding or bump into reality while chasing pathogens, dark holes, and solutions to the problems a blind technologism serving possession and control (markets and weapon-defences) not least of which are iatrogenic – will always undermine or invalidate invested models based on idols or ideals, protected from truth by any and every means BUT honest exploration of the fact – however the new fact is to be integrated with as narratives of significance (or in post-truth thinking ‘human insignificance’ – how arrogant is that!). The Platonic Ideal renders the natural world – our reality – a pale and unworthy copy of presumed perfect archetypes. What is at play as a result are unworthy and pale copies operating as unreal and unchallengable ‘archetypes’ to which we template ourselves in sacrifice. Not that there isn’t a Living Archetype of which all Life is… Read more »
Nearly everyone, apart from a small number of people on various websites, such as here, thought and still think, despite the official numbers, that COVID19, was an extremely dangerous Pandemic and very much worse than a normal flu. Nearly everyone, apart from a small number of people on various websites, think that George Floyd is dead. I do understand why. The propaganda is overwhelming. Now it is entirely possible that George Floyd is dead, and numerous people like him, most certainly are dead under very similar circumstaces. However, the story of George Floyd, his history and that of his “killer” together with a mass of photographic evidence, do not make sense with regards to the official narrative of his death. I am not very good, at examining forensically, photographic evidence in great detail because the entire thing makes me sick. Basically I do not want my… Read more »
If it was faked or not, is moot.
People are dying regularly, not just from the brutality of the state directly, but from the depressing effects of the ‘lockdown’ and loss of jobs, income etc.
It was only a matter of time before it becomes all too much.
I completely agree.
If there were a real uprising, this is what it would look like, this is ‘the look’ the CIA try to recreate in their operations around the world, but this is what a real uprising looks like, it happened for real economic and political reasons. How are they going to stop it…… where is the solution waiting in the wings? there is none.
I was very impressed with the numbers of people that RobG posted last night.
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1267073026614493184
Sally, you are right. No question that George Floyd was killed by the police, it’s there on video and the officer has been arrested and charged. However, the uprising is a very real reaction with this killing being the straw that broke the camel’s back. The Chief of Police for Houston who stuck it to Trump in a televised interview yesterday, said this wasn’t all about the killing of Floyd but about a lack of money, about lockdown, about lack of housing, about poverty and other socio-economic factors. He said to Trump that advocating more violence against protesters, the public and the use of the military was not what was required. What was needed was a message of hope, of change, of unity. He also said to Trump if he couldn’t say anything constructive then he should keep his mouth shut! So, Trump isn’t into solutions he is a… Read more »
Or perhaps Trump is more like a bewildered bull caught in a mud hole up to his knees. He can thrash about and spew mud everywhere within reach, but he can’t see very far, can’t get out, and has no idea what’s really going on.
dus7 – very good description but I think he has a very good idea of what’s going on. A committed President would be out there on TV, on the balcony of the White House or other forums offering a message indicating the Government were listening, there would be an investigation, changes were quite obviously needed etc etc. The problem with the Orange Baboon (and the Orange Baboon mini me here) is that they are not interested in the citizens of their country, just themselves, their money and that of their rich friends.
Trump doesn’t want to sort it out at all. He is a warmonger as the World has seen throughout his Presidency. He has all but declared war on the US Citizens.
Tonyopomoc, Disagreed. George Floyd was killed in full view and by a police officer who has subsequently been arrested and charged and all four involved in the death have been sacked. The USA is a police state with their officers largely racist who have a considerable track record of killing unarmed and often innocent black civilians. Last year alone, these totalled around 500 of the ones that are reported of course. Also, these protests come on the back of several more black people killed by police this year alone. Barbara (??) who was shot and killed in her own home, unarmed, innocent of any crime but killed anyway. Audrey Arby was shot and killed by police despite being unarmed and innocent. Just recently a video was released showing a mob lynching a black man. They were apprehended. I Could go on. These incidents were all between March and May of… Read more »
Jo, I know you are highly intelligent, and I have read your posts elsewhere, and basically agree with most of your points of view – even some of your politics, but I am basically non-political. I very rarely vote. The last time, was for a local girl – a Labour MP, when Jeremy Corbyn was the leader of the Labour Party. Maybe I should have joined the Labour Party, now that Blair was cast aside. I am merely analysing the evidence. I used to do get paid lots of money in my career (which I voluntarily terminated after 9/11), for not just analysing stuff, but building real computer systems, and taking responsibilty for them, when they were a bit fragile. They were important with regards to providing essential services mainly to old people. I am an old person now, but never used the company I was working for… Read more »
Hi Tony, thank you for taking the time to write this post. It is really appreciated. I, like you, don’t give a shit about the stupid lockdown laws and am happy to breach them.
In the meantime, I am keeping a keen eye on what’s going on Stateside because it seems the revolution is starting there, who would have thought?
Police killings totalled 1099 in 2019. 24% were black, despite making up only 13% of the population.
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/
Hi Paul too, thanks for this information. it is important
Another excellent article on the lockdown from Alison Pearson in the Telegraph, a number of whose journalists have been taking a responsible and fact-based attitude to the nonsense over the past few weeks. It is behind a ‘paywall’, but they are currently promoting an online subscription offer of £1 a month for the next three months, which I have today taken up in order to have access to mainstream articles showing some sanity!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/refuse-abide-bonkers-rules-longer/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr
Yes, the Telegraph have been very good on the whole with this. Probably the best of the MSM pack, though that is not saying much!
Pearson commented to someone on twitter – I forget who – that she had initially supported the 3 week lockdown, but lost patience when it kept being extended.
OK maybe, but more fool her in believing it was ever only going to be 3 weeks. I don’t think too many people on here were fooled at the time.
An encouraging article. I polughed through the comments last night and many of them were cheering her on. Hopefully it’s a sign of a sea-change.
On the other hand, Starmer is still bleating about a second wave. Pity he didn’t get sunstroke while doing the Westminster conga yesterday!
Cheezilla, it is unfortunate that we have a completely useless and gormless idiot as the Leader of the Opposition. He should be saying what Alison Pearson and others are saying.
I agree. The big question is: Why isn’t he??
Perhaps because he is what Jo says he is.
People on here are always talking about votes being rigged, and if any vote was rigged, I’ll bet his election as leader was.
He may have relatively humble origins, but but he lost no time in getting his feet firmly under the Establishment table, and plans to stay there. He won’t rock the boat, and nothing will change significantly under his watch.
Which is exactly why those who promoted him did so.
Hi Mike, looking at the completely worthless attempts at challenging the Government he has tried to date, it seems to me that all he is doing is seeing what the MSM are reporting and using one of those as his line of what is loosely called a challenge but is more like a benign load of rubbish. Corbyn used to come to PMQ’s well prepared, with relevant facts, figures, issues etc and with challenging but spot on questions that the Government were required to answer. That’s why he trashed the Maybot in PMQs and with Boris, he outright won the TV debates and the two PMQs that they had together. It resorted on one of them to Johnson calling Corbyn a ‘big girl’s blouse’. My goodness, this is from our Prime Minsiter, didn’t answer the question though did he. Some Human Rights lawyer, here we have, to our disgrace,… Read more »
JudyJ Thanks for this. She is right. We should absolutely refuse to abide by these rules any longer. It is not for the Government to dictate who we do and do not meet either at home or outside or who we choose to er have intimate relationships with!
“I love my brick!” Father Jack may not be the only one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ZU6UMDfgY
Hello Go Fund me! “While he has insurance “it doesn’t cover everything,” says Lana, the owner whose store was looted. https://abcnews.go.com/US/theyre-thinking-vandalize-store-black-business-owner-recounts/story?id=71018720
Between struggling proprietors and Antifa protestors, bricks are back in demand. While demand for bricks and cement fell 11% during Event Covid, they’ve experienced somewhat of a bounce.
“If bricks could fly,” chuckled Aggro Gates, owner of Cement World. “I would say bricks have been flying out the window in recent days.” https://www.worldcement.com/europe-cis/28052020/ama-research-forecasts-11-decline-in-bricks-blocks-and-precast-concrete-sector-due-to-covid-19/
/S <<<<< chuckle warning
Flying out the window? An inside job? ;o)
The piles of bricks apparently came from the Acme Brick Company! And it is a real company. Somebody is taking the piss.
https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/06/manufacturing-dissent/
Admin1 (I presume):
Am I on pre-moderation now? Or is it just a glitch in the matrix?
No, you aren’t – why do ask? Our comments have been completely fried by the recent software update, but we are apparently getting on top of it now.
Your most recent comment is here btw – I found it in the spam folder, unspammed and posted it for you.
every 6 -8 years ferguson pulls out his microsoft windows on the world 1 steam powered computer and models for glaxo smith klein or sum such.
he gets some gold and silver imperial get a few hundred million and big pharma gets 10s of billions
babylonian circle of life a culled death
the goy fall for it everytime
the robbery is over theft ongoing the beatings must continue
Are you a ‘goy’? Might goyim be derived from or related to golem? Perhaps not – but a connection would make sense. I follow with my own reflections – not any special message or reflection on you. A robotic and programmable mind is set in the wish for a bubbled consciousness that runs unconscious of its will by design. How else to invest in what we do NOT want as a way to explore who we are through the experience of what we are NOT? One of the ways we do so is under the ruse – “they made me do it!”, “they forced me to do it,” or “they tricked me into doing it”. When ‘what has been done’ is deemed irrevocable then it becomes “See what you have done to me!” and “See what you have made me!” – or ‘See your guilt in my… Read more »
It’s all very laudable and necessary (as a baby first step toward a critical voice for the truly underprivileged): but how many people die every day when we are making that £2.6bn for ‘us’? How many children die every day ‘uncuddled’ by our consumerism? Where does that money come from? Strange fruit hanging on strange trees …expelled across the phenomenological horizons of experience? The concern people are beginning to show now is ultimately neo-European solipsism on full display. The daily death toll in Africa and the rest of the world is never directly attributable to us. Most narcissistically (and pre-exonerated nationalistically): it is ‘their’ fault for failing to follow our shining example and develop like us. The hidden racism in our sanitised enobled worldview excludes the fact that the world is poor because it developed us. Misery is deliberately maintained planned immiseration and peripheralisation …across the shores… Read more »
Maybe I’m just impatient, but I kind of wish the really long ‘comments’ would be submitted to this or another site as an article instead of appearing here as a ‘comment’.
You can’t get bullion bars for love or money, but there are plenty of bricks piled next to shop windows, even though there’s been no construction activity for two months. If the currency blows up, the rioting will become civil war. Somebody is arming Antifa, says Rob Kirby of Kirby Analytics. Antifa are totalitarians so what what the paymaster wants. Strangely neither the U.S. Treasury nor the CIA can trace such payments. $10 trillion may have vanished from U.S. government in 2019, Mark Skidmore* has told Rob Kirby. In the past three months, the Fed is again expanding balance sheet, possibly reaching another $10 trillion by the year end. So money’s being created and stolen. There is no end in sight for what he calls as “the grand game of hide the salami”. https://missingmoney.solari.com/ The Fed knows this money creation will destroy the dollar, thus it… Read more »
Moneycircus, This is astonishing. Thanks for the link because it isn’t in any of our MSM. I wonder how much of that is going into the Orange Baboon’s pocket!
Quite a bit. His closed down hotels are being bailed out. So are Kushner’s business interests.
Paul, it is totally demoralising and criminal. Whilst 6m Americans have lost their jobs and business closed down with little or no safety net, the Orange Baboon and his son in law reap the benefits.
Good for the Protestors in the USA – I hope they win somehow.
Property Genius and Middle East Expert Kushner bought 666 5th Avenue for a billion of borrowed money at the height of the property boom and has been functionally bankrupt ever since. But that doesn’t matter when you can tap into soft Gulf loans for influence peddling with Daddy.
The fish rots from the head down.
Paul, this is really interesting. Isn’t there any regulatory authority that protects public money from shit like this?
This site tells us that the political demonstrations are an operation to cause a dictatorial state, but they champaign for the ‘Covid truth movement’.
So why is the valid arguments against police violence and the valid are augments against the Covid scam, not part of the same operation to bring about a dictatorial state? Both with Trump at it’s head, as Trump is being lorded as the Covid truth teller and will be credited as the restorer of order.
“Trump is being lorded [sic] as the Covid truth teller” by whom?
By the Alt-right, Fox news, Breitbart and the right-wing media.
Why do you ask….. have you had a stroke or are you just waiting for last months news to come out in braille ?
Thanks for the first paragraph; although, it was rather spoiled by the second paragraph.
However, glancing through Breitbart’s recent coverage of the coronavirus issue, I completely failed to notice them lauding President Trump as the “Covid truth teller.”
Gwond, I do think it is unecessary to insult people in the manner in which you have to the poster Steve Hayes. This is a forum for challenging debate and discussion and trying to find some truth not one to issue unwarranted insults. I’m sure you can do better than this.
Come off it, the guy is pretending I am saying something he has never heard before, what is he 10 years old? He is just trolling, not enquiring. Look at his last reply. So he never saw the thousands of gun carrying trump supporters all across the USA last week.
The clue is in what protests are allowed/encouraged by the state and those that arent:
Black man killed by a policeman in another country – Come to Trafalgar Square and stick it to the man
Get locked up for three months and unhappy with the surveillance control grid and vaccines – Dont come to Speakers Corner where oppressive police will arrest you and chase you around the park
i think my comment went over your head.
MoH. Yep. Although I don’t disagree with the protest in Trafalgar Square but you are right, not allowed to protest against lockdown or hold the Government to account or anything to do with Covid in fact. Worrying and concerning.
This is an interesting interview. I have a degree in chemistry. Models. It highlights the ignorance of science in the minds of the general public. A model is not evidence. Imagine building a lego town. You try to make it real, but of course it is NOT real. it is not evidence of anything. In experimentation, you posit a hypothesis and then you try to challenge your hypothesis by experimentation. Your experiment may prove that your hypothesis was wrong. What Ferguson does is modelling. He’s not really doing any traditional science at all. Modelling is guessing. It is an educated guess, but no more than that. A model, as Robert says, has many parameters. If you get any of your assumptions wrong then your model is wrong. One thing I have never seen discussed is error. Error is ALWAYS built into any model. So… Read more »
Correction: February 2018.
My impression of modelling is that it is a fancy way of presenting calculations done on the back of a ‘fag packet’ (showing my age!). In my Civil Service days long ago I used to work on animal disease policies. I recall discussing with one of my Departmental senior veterinary colleagues some fancy time consuming calculation that had been done by consultants regarding a particular animal disease. The vet I was discussing it with said to me “You know what. The truth is, if you plucked a random figure out of the air you’d have as much chance of being accurate”.
The outcome of a computer model is nothing more than the mathematically inevitable result of the assumptions. And everyone who is scientifically literate knows this.
And the old IT term ‘Garbage In Garbage Out’ tells us what we get when we feed false assumptions into a model.
Ferguson is taking the p!ss and should never work again.
It does not matter whether the assumptions are false or not. The outcome of a computer model cannot tell you anything about the real world. Knowledge about the world is empirical. Outcomes from computer models are merely formal.
This is the Guardian take and time line on the minutes https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/29/sage-minutes-reveal-how-uk-advisers-reacted-to-coronavirus-crisis They do not enquire why no minutes between 19th and 23rd March 27 February – Committee hears 500,000 deaths possibleMeeting discusses the “reasonable worst case scenario” in which 80% of the UK population is infected, with a 1% fatality rate – which would mean up to 500,000 deaths, a key move towards eventual lockdown. This was modelling from Prof Neil Ferguson of Imperial College, who was at the meeting. “reasonable worst case scenario” that is not what report 9 says “in an unmitigated epidemic, we would predict approximately 510,000 deaths in GB and 2.2 million in the US, not accounting for the potential negative effects of health systems being overwhelmed on mortality” is an unmitigated epidemic without problems with health systems the same as “reasonable worst case scenario” This was before the first death… Read more »
Nicely skewered, Brian, thanks.
SAGE leakers say Cummings ‘pushed’ the group to give a politically acceptable decision.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-28/top-aide-to-u-k-s-johnson-pushed-scientists-to-back-lockdown
Incidentally, a photograph allegedly taken of Cummings ‘breaking lockdown’ at Barnards Castle (coincdentally home of GSK UK R&D) also shows him wearing an official ID card/lanyard. I am no ID card geek so I have no idea if the card is i) an official UK government ID, ii) a GSK visitor ID card, or iii) something else.
https://smp.vgc.no/v2/images/e0ae32e5-806d-4869-aeec-6faa3fa56c00?fit=crop&h=768&w=1366&s=52978a4ea9447d29b98d620c1066da8ee8898b96
The IMF have been destroying economies for decades for US corporate take over, but in this case they used a virus instead of debt. so let the fire-sale begin.
You lot are on safer ground when you attack the Covid lies but this is no longer the main story, the US has moved on to an internal crisis which has got out of hand.
I don’t live in the US.
Who cares where you live.
I think that was John’s point.
Organised chaos.
Oldest trick in the organised chaos book.
How will you ever know when a real revolution happens? you won;t because you will be calling it an operation by the ‘left’.
I would like to know who decided to implement the “lockdown” in England? Lots of people, both in favour and opposed to the measures say Professor Neil Ferguson, but the SAGE minutes show that the scientific advisory group did not offer that advice, and Ferguson was still a member at that time. Indeed, Ferguson attended the meeting immediately prior to the introduction of the measures, and that meeting did not advise the “lockdown”. So, the measures were not introduced on the basis of “the science” (as government ministers have repeatedly claimed). So what was the basis and who made the decision. Does anyone know?
I think it’s very clear who made the decision, Steve. I’ll give you a clue. He currently squats in 10 Downing Street.
Do not any of you allow this worm to be let off the hook.
Yes. And don’t forget the role of Cummings (the toad’s SPAD) who attended Sage Committee meetings and allegedly pushed for the ‘Lockdown’ just before it was implemented. Plus the role of SPI-B and their behavioural insights:
Johnson was (possibly) still favouring following Sweden’s model at this time. There has been interesting discussion around the adverse reaction to the word ‘herd’ in ‘herd immunity’. I remember many people getting very agitated about this at the time as if it was actually a policy and not a description of how viruses have always behaved in populations. Herd Immunity is now recognised as a measure of how well a population is resisting the virus, just like it always was!
The politics behind this, as most of us now recognise, are murky and none of is about a virus and protecting anyone except the Elite. Unfortunately, it does not bode well.
That’s fine, but we cannot get rid of Cummings. He’s Johnson’s lackey. We can, or at least we could – until they “suspended” elections – get rid of Johnson.
I can’t give you chapter and verse, but someone on here the other day said that Johnson (or at least the government collectively) changed his or its mind after France threatened to close the border and effectively cut off a good deal of the UK’s food supply.
It might be important to note that the evil Vallance was the first one to mention herd immunity.
Hi John Pretty – are we talking about squatter mark 1 – Bojo – or squatter mark 2 – Dom? Or both
The US and the CIA ordered the lockdown.
Not in the UK, they didn’t.
Its not clear who did. Certainly Big Pharma, and I think that would be their representatives Whitty, Vallance and Farrar. Though there had to be other corruptive elements pursuing a lockdown to crash the economy. The banks have remarkably kept quiet through all this
John
I wouldn’t be so sure of that.
In the US it started in California on March 17. That day Newsom ordered 6 counties surrounding the Bay area closed. The following day, March 18, the entire state was closed. Newsom praised a young female who was talking about a million deaths as part of his ordering the lockdown.. Ron Unz then picked up on praising this person in a thread that went on for weeks in dispute over the severity of the problem. The thread featured people who wrote angrily that “paid retards” (as with myself) were challenging the lockdown. At a crucial point in the discussion, Unz highlighted such a quote (also profane and the equivalent of shouting) as exemplary. The panic gathered speed under these influences. Trump at first said wearing a mask could be voluntary. That then changed to “the rules” posted on business doors despite the gathering evidence the danger had been vastly exaggerated.… Read more »
In case there’s any confusion I may be a retard but I’m not being paid.
We know the PM wanted a herd immunity approach and that SAGE did not advise a lockdown. So in the UK, at least, the lockdown came from an unknown (secretive?) branch of government. We are in the territory of deductive reasoning a la Sherlock Holmes. Since we have no minutes or records of who in government pushed the lockdown, the suspects must include Cabinet Secretary Mark Sedwill and his merry band of 77th Brigade brothers, including Rupert Burridge from that nest of Fabian vipers at the London School of Economics. Sir Richard Quixano Henriques, a retired British judge, won BBC airtime to propose the abolition of juries. He says Diplock courts introduced in Northern Ireland in 1973 to try terrorists without juries would work perfectly well across the UK. Judges are already appointed by a secretive branch of government. Police are borrowing techniques from the Irish troubles… Read more »
See my comment above:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/03/watch-anna-brees-interviews-prof-robert-endres/#comment-184856
Looks like that report came from Liberation https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2020/03/21/coronavirus-les-coulisses-du-bras-de-fer-entre-emmanuel-macron-et-boris-johnson_1782622
“Everything was prepared to close the border between France and the United Kingdom on Friday evening. The same morning, Emmanuel Macron called the British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, to warn him: if he persisted in taking no measures to halt the progression of the coronavirus pandemic on his territory, France would have no other choice to refuse entry to its territory to all travelers from the United Kingdom, that is to say to consider it as a third country. And all the other European states would have done the same, which would have been very bad news for the British economy and the government’s policy of “benign neglect”. “We clearly had to threaten him so that he would finally move.”
Thanks for that!
“UK home secretary Savid Javid”
Priti Patel is the United Kingdom’s Home Secretary.
Correct. The ‘ex-‘ got lost in the fun of this new software. Not only is typing sometimes marshmallow sticky but my Mac specializes in random cursor placement )). I am old enough to have typed on triplicate carbon copy paper on a typewriter. It was more accurate.
It’s not just your Mac (mine’s a pc) and I’m not entirely sure it’s only the software!
Moneycircus I have to correct you on one fact. The majority of child abuse does not and never has occurred in state run children’s homes or state care. The general public are not aware of just how prevalent child abuse is out there not just sexual but physical, emotional and now ever increasing, chronic neglect. There are a number of key factors which include: Step parents (high risk indicator); the proliferation of very well organised and managed national paedophile rings (quite a few involve members who are police, teachers and from other professions); the huge increase in the breakdown of families and extended families through drink and drug abuse and the large increase in the number of parents who are moving on to relationship after relationship and having more children with multiple different partners. There are more. I could provide far more evidence but it is not for this blog.
It was I, Arsebiscuits
“ I would like to see the same rigorous scientific criteria applied as the ones we expect our students to use on a daily basis, in particular the critical assessment of the limitations of the methods and obtained results.”
And this is what being guided by the science SHOULD look like. Instead we have no peer review when it comes to the science TPTB choose to be guided by and the equivalent of scientific trolling posing as peer review in response to any sceptical scientific voices.
In short, the ONLY constant throughout this situation has been the overwhelming inconsistency in the scientific POV. If science is to have any authority it must surely come from adherence to the scientific method first and foremost – protocols, funding transparency, peer review etc. Otherwise what’s the point?
Pertinent, on the day “Professor Lockdown” Ferguson came clean and admitted that Sweden had achieved broadly the same results as us …without the lockdown.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/02/prof-lockdown-neil-ferguson-admits-sweden-used-science-uk-has/
Considering the article doesn’t mention that most of the fatalities were in care homes, or among immigrants living in crowded conditions, I suspect a smokescreen of some sort.
I’d love to read an article by Off Guardian on your analysis of the Sage minutes.
It’s frightening what these monsters in government and the science are capable of.
For them to state that they want to use the media to increase a sense of personal threat and to use hard hitting emotional language is evil.
This is a psychological warfare against its own people.
Everyone in the country needs to know this.
”This is a psychological warfare against its own people.”
If the US was calling the shots, no it wasn’t. And actually makes it easier to understand.
The IMF have been destroying economies for decades for US corporate take over, but in this case they used a virus instead of debt. so let the fire-sale begin.
The origin of which can be found in this document:
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/MINDSPACE.pdf
The UK Government’s 2011 Influenza Pandemic Preparedness Strategy document (section 5.11) cross-refers to the MINDSPACE publication.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/213717/dh_131040.pdf
Paul, yes I think an article on here would be useful and would get a more public readership.
Go out and protest – or you’re racist.
(Erase last week’s headline: If you go outside you’re a heartless white supremacist).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQr8NG9XwDs
Watching the broadcast news is a spectacle in the art and craft of doublethink. They seamlessly and unselfconsciously move from a segment demanding social distancing to save lives onto a segment praising non-social distancing violent protesters.
The double-think is inside your head, this is what democracy looks like.
Steve I commend you for watching the broadcast news. I can’t do it. Yes it is doublethink as is most of the propaganda to do with CV-19. Whilst in Lidl yesterday I saw a headline, I think the Daily Heil it was, that said WHO are now saying that only 1 metre social distancing is needed which means businesses can get back up and running. I have been systematically working through all my notes I have on CV-19 and the contradictions are many. That’s what happens I guess when so many lies are told the MSM, Politicians and the pseudo-scientists cannot keep up with them so all the anomalies, lies, contradictions etc
One metre has always been the World Health Organisation’s recommendation. However, it is no more scientific than the two metre rule or any of the other measures. They are all made up. The closest they get to having a scientific basis is computer modelling, which is not science as the outcome of a computer model is nothing more than the mathematically inevitable result of the assumptions.
The CIA make terrible videos.
She is just speaking ‘from her heart’, which just happens to coincide with the CIA’s memes to distract from the real seat of power in the USA, the military, the political/corporate elites and the surveillance state.
If you want to stop a revolution, then call the protesters useful idiots. This video is against the political demonstrations, ”You cannot control these things, just accept”, don’t protest, blame bill gates and enemies of the ‘family’. Weird CIA shit.
We don’t need ANY models, correct or otherwise. Arguing about details is a distraction from the main point.
Our immune systems know how to handle viruses, and until this year our public health systems knew how to HELP our immune systems handle viruses. The problem is already solved as well as it can be solved. (In fact ALL problems are already solved, and ALL new “solutions” are guaranteed to be evil.)
We didn’t need to do ANYTHING new. As soon as the “authorities” started to imprison entire countries, their purpose became murderously clear. They have stopped doing medicine and public health, and started committing genocide.
You seem to be very knowledgeable regarding these issues, perhaps you could provide some detail on the basis of your assertions?
Google is your enemy. You can still use it, however, for a quick ‘n dirty acquaintance with smallpox and polio, which histories tend to illustrate Polistra’s point: they prompted investigation of how immune systems work and what was required to boost that immunity with respect to particular diseases. Both smallpox and polio were solved. In the case of polio, in little over 20 years.
Polistra is right. The subsequent history of vaccines strongly resembles an answer looking in search of a question, a hammer in search of a nail, or an enterprise in search of a profit.
I would add that those enterprises include the military whose research into weaponized viruses and ways to cause fast-acting cancer ran parallel to the polio vaccine research of the 1950s. Using monkey viruses to create cancer.
See Ed Haslam and Dr Mary’s Monkey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47ZE0StYX3I
I’m getting ‘you’ve already upvoted this comment’ when i haven’t. Guessing a glitch in the new site software but it’s happened this morning on 3 comments i certainly haven’t voted on before.
Just got a ‘You are not allowed to vote for this comment’ on another!
Absolutely right polistra. I notice the Trollbirds are Go. Traceyou Island is on operational alert. International Fucyou are on the case. Impossible to post on Colour Revolution. Classic techniques of subverting the dialogue in full display. Offguardian must be getting a bit too near the knuckle.
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Sage minutes released due to legal challenge
https://www.gov.uk/search/transparency-and-freedom-of-information-releases?keywords=sage&order=relevance
Lockdown Boris violated SAGE advicehttps://www.paulchaplin.life/blog-original/lockdown-boris-violated-sage-advice
Up to 18th march Sage were recommending extra measures for over 70’s
cocooning. Informing and letting people decide . No Lockdown
19th – 22nd March SAGE goes dark No admitted meeting or minutes
23rd March Boris Locks Down UK but not based on admitted sage advice
Neil Ferguson’s was part of SAGE but his advice not reflected in Sage Minutes
Sage minutes from 23rd do not recommend Lock Down
These 3 paragraphs completely destroy the claim of UK Govt to be following the science:
No doubt this will be on BBC and SKY news soon NOT
Admin😁 First time ever from you guys, but just had an email from asking me to confirm my subscription to OffGuardian.
I assume we have been under DDoS attack again, plus the influx of trolls also. Correct?
Keep fighting the good fight✌️
Same here Gezzah. I just assumed it was a “feature” of their new interface.
I’m sorry but neither of these people have a shred of credibility, as I cannot see a single book-lined shelf in the background of the camera shot of either interviewer or interviewee.
Very droll 😀
Well yes, but Prof. Endres has a blackboard behind him, and a well-used blackboard trumps a bookshelf any day of the week!
(Neil Ferguson probably still has the original source code of his model on his blackboard).
That’ll be one huge blackboard !
Just been listening to one of James Burke’s amazing books. Now if you are old enough, you’ll recall how this guy was the BBC’s best science and tech figure by far, and then at the height of his popularity, the BBC dropped him like a hot potato. Here’s the puzzler. Burke was a total zionist, and establishment figure who bent his tech history narratives to big up the USA, the jews, the muslims and the british empire. In other words Burke was *perfect* BBC material- yet he was the first high profile “white male” to be chucked off the network (after which he continued to produce material for the Americans). So what was his ‘crime’ (and how does this relate to the article above)? The answer is that Burke was red hot on History and *facts*. For sure, he bent (or selected) facts to serve the usual establishment… Read more »
Written with such self-assurance, by you. And much of it is no doubt true. One thing I do know is that, just as when I sport my own pet conspiracy theories, I too often find after a month, or a year, or even decades, on a few (embarrassing) occasions, that some of it has been laid on a foundation that has shifted, no doubt due to seismic happenstances, not on account of my own mislaid brick work, of course. But -“after further review”- some of it has lost solidity. Judge Learned Hand was an icon at my family’s lawyering dinner table of yesteryear, enough so that I look him up now that you can find all that easily, he was a friend of FDR who wanted him on SCOTUS, but his way was barred by many foes. He was very influential. He gave a speech after the War called “The… Read more »
“A teacher who is not dogmatic is simply a teacher who is not teaching.”. –GKC
In stupid Australia a vaxx pushing former doctor was advising us to act like this was Spanish flu, they did a short documentary about how people behaved and did that again in 2020, That is the sum total of ”medical” advice used here where 99.98% of the population didn’t come within a bulls roar of the virus, 6 million people lost jobs over this brainless nonsense.
Marilyn, the former doctor needs to be sectioned I think! Delusional thoughts about Spanish Flu!
So it is ‘obvious’ a mask is a good idea. It’s obvious to me that a mask is a good idea. I live in China. In China they only had a strict lockdown in specific targeted areas, and very limited lockdowns elsewhere, which they started to raise as soon as was prudent to prevent their economy from going into meltdown, which would have done a lot more damage than the virus. They also didn’t bother overmuch with “social distancing”. But from the day the Wuhan emergency was declared, everybody started wearing a mask outdoors. Menawhile the UK had a general lockdown and social distancing, and nobody wore a mask. There have been 60,000 deaths in the UK and 5000 in China. If the death rate iin China had been the same as the UK there would have been 1.2 million deaths. So I’ll go with metadata from 1.4… Read more »
and you believe the Chinese data (propaganda)?
Alessandro, I definitely do. It’s based on far more evidence than ours is. Just because it’s China it doesn’t mean it’s not valid. You seem to have fallen for the anti-China narrative.
I think you’ll find the number of deaths is due to a lot of factors that don’t include masklessness.
Hi Sunset, just to add that the Emily Maitlis situation is bizarre as the BBC stated she had breached its rules of strict impartiality. Now this is seriously delusional. Are they saying Laura Kuensberg is in any way impartial and she is the Political Editor. She has her face so far up Boris’ backside she can’t see anything other than the shit she speaks. The BBC went large on public insults of Jeremy Corbyn, didn’t publish his conference speech on their website, stitched him up, in collusion with the MSM, with the Andrew Neil interview. The fact they substituted live footage of the Rememberance Day ceremony in which Boris was clearly drunk and disorientated and totally bullsed it up with one from 2016 in which he was wearing a totally different suit and a different coloured wreath. BBC excuse? Editorial error. There was absolutely no impartiality in any of their… Read more »
ferguson pops up with his doom every 6 years running the same script.
the same 25 year old computer code
imperial have taken 100s of millions from gates and big pharma
imperial are floating in cash who cares about short term reputation damage
ferguson boy done his job well
in the future the medicated vaccinated 5g radiation blasted will forget as memory loss increases
A I will collect many memories so many of your other losses will be captured in super computer.
human harvesting the contents of your mind and as you don not own your body when you snuff it nhs amazon and google will convert you into flavours for pringles
did imperial sack ferguson the golden calf
did they authorize this german prof?
hot air
If Professor Lockdown, Ferguson, is a Knight of the Realm, as QE made him for his peculiar Hoof and Mouth fulminations 20 years ago, such titles should be permanently devalued. I mean, considering how much we have suffered for this guy! He ruined whole Industries!
“Pops up with his doom every 6 years”. Nice.
In a tank of water, turds rise to the top. They pop up, just like that. That’s the only comparable phenomenon, to Ferguson.
I’ve read a lot about his “contributions” and this guy is a putrifying travesty, with legs.
Can we please stop pretending that viruses even exist? Can we please stop legitimising virology as a science? Virology and pharmacology are the biggest frauds ever perpetrated.
Some virus heresy from David Crowe and Thomas Cowan:
https://infectiousmyth.podbean.com/2020/06/
Sorry this is the correct (or more precise) link:
https://infectiousmyth.podbean.com/e/the-infectious-myth-thomas-cowan-on-covid-19-and-germ-theory/
Yes, it’s the ‘flat earthers’ are ‘real’ ploy. Anyhoo, ignoring the dribble, it is a little known fact that the major cause of evolution is viral transmission of genetic material from species to species. For reasons unknown, at key moments in our planet’s history, there have been viral infections that massively changed the genotype of much of the life at that moment. We don’t know how or why- present day viruses rarely do this- but it does happen with genes from animals and plants moving across simply because the animal has a life relationship with the plant. DNA analysis shows ancient viral genetic material present in many species. Natural selection and natural mutation could never explain the rate of evolution in any mathematical model using statistical analysis. Interestingly, when it was first understood that radiation could mutate genes, scientists thought that one would literally see evolution in… Read more »
interesting, if true. next time, try providing some references, if you want to be taken seriously.
relevance to the topic at hand might also be a good idea, if you don’t want to be mistaken for a disinfo troll.
What is Rabies? What is Myxomatosis? What is HIV? if its not a “virus” what is it, genuine question because i’ve seen death first hand caused by all 3.
I don’t know about rabies or myxomatosis, but David Crowe has written and broadcast/podcasted extensively about HIV/AIDS:
https://davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv.php
See for example his two interviews with Peter Duesberg, who is a well-known expert “dissenter” in the HIV-AIDS field of research.
we had to destroy the village to save it
Internet search for Louis Pasteur vs Antoine Bechamp.
Also Dr Andrew Kaufman The Rooster in a River of Rats
Im a great fan of Anna Brees work and the stuff she covers. She does training courses for people who wish to use mobile phones to do interviews and film events.
Not met, but you can see she has an amazing care for others and concern for important issues. So much positive energy rarely seen in a person imo.