WATCH: UK Column News – NHS Eye Witnesses
Mike Robinson and Brian Gerrish discuss the economic fallout of the Lockdown, the £300 million spent on track-and-trace and an interview with Piers Robinson discussing the Times’ renewed attacks on the academics researching Douma and the OPCW leaks (more on this coming soon).
Most striking in this segment are three first-hand accounts of patients in NHS hospitals which describe experiences we are already becoming familiar with from many other sources, and that are hard to reconcile with real-world pandemic prevention measures, especially given the acknowledged low level of threat posed by SARS-COV2.
Account 1:
After experiencing serious reoccurring cardiovascular issues during lockdown, I finally contacted my GP this week. However, I was informed by the receptionist that the surgery would only be performing telephone appointments these days, but that there would be no more calls for the rest of the day. It was only 10:30am. I insisted that it was serious, and she then relented and said a doctor would call me later that day.
Later on, the doctor called and informed me that she could book me in for a heart diagnostic but that I would likely have to wait a few months for the appointment because the hospital’s resources were all being focused on COVID pandemic for the foreseeable future. I cannot tell you how devastated I was to hear this. No other options were offered.
What can I do now? With care being rationed to extreme levels, I can only imagine how many other people are being fobbed off like this. Why are we clapping for the NHS if the NHS has closed its doors to potentially millions who are desperate for urgent care? This whole thing makes no sense.
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Account 2
I went to Kings College Hospital (London) for a procedure recently. It was about one third as busy as normal, it felt empty. But whilst waiting in the reception area, overheard a conversation between a private healthcare worker (possibly a contractor) and a NHS worker on reception.
The private healthcare worker was asking questions about how to perform a procedure on an elderly patient. It appeared that maybe some of the staff working at the hospital were being asked to perform procedures without training and having to ask for instructions immediately beforehand. Why is this happening especially since the hospital was the quietest I have ever seen it?
Have the real NHS staff been furloughed?
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And lastly, this one, which arrived too late to be broadcast but which Mike Robinson forwarded to us:
I work for the NHS in mental Health a big Trust in London that support only mental health.
Since Covid and lockdown all the face to face service has been cancelled. Referrals from GP have been stopped and and medical review only done for severe case and mainly via telephone consultation. Patients really unwell are refused to be seen and contacted only via telephone.
The service is underused to its 20% of its capacity. Doctors and personnel being redeployed across the service but not sure doing what, many working from home not really doing much. I kept going to the office all this time of the lockdown and the community service I work for has discouraged all of the service users to come and visit us even if in crisis. After 3 months of this shamble, infection control service came to the building (after 3 months of lockdown) to check for distance in offices. Offices that had 4 or 7 people in the same office, now can have only 2 people.
From Monday we are supposed to have temperature check each time we enter the building and if we refuse we may be refused to enter the building??? We are forced to wear masks inside the office where only staff work together and where service users are prevented from entering the building as when the bell rings we have to ask the matter of the visit and encourage them to go back home???
We are also encouraged to record telephone reviews as face to face which is not the reality of what is happening.
There is not imminent plan to go back to face to face medical consultation and I am so furious about how they are inducing us to believe in fabricated lies and change our behaviour and the way we live and interact forever.
I feel helpless and I can not stand this felling(sic)of being helpless anymore. We need to act quickly before it is too late.
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These personal histories can’t of course, be verified, but they are significant because they form part of a consistency of narrative from health care workers and patients all over the world, which is becoming more than concerning.
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We should probably have in mind that the philosophy behind all such events is a deeply-entrenched Conservative one, and it’s a very old one too: We just let the NHS (and, for that matter, any other public service which doesn’t turn in an immediate profit for lots of shareholders) collapse and go to hell due to chaotic mismanagement, serious underfunding and totally worn-down staff. Then we tell the country’s citizens that the only answer is to trust that we Tories have the only possible solution: The privatization of absolutely everything.
Nowadays this is all accomplished with the greatest of ease, because CoVid is a great excuse behind which to hide anything that enters the heads of us “authorities” to hide.
Hi Wardropper mostly agree with what you say with the exception of one, the NHS is not, I repeat not underfunded. People need to ask where the money they receive is actually being spent.
Hi, Jo. I certainly don’t disagree with you there. I should have been more precise, and I did mean to point to the underfunding of what actually matters in the NHS: Patient care. The money is, of course, as in the universities, being spent on “administrative” offices and departmental managers, where it contributes little towards patient well-being.
wardropper: You are so right. I work in the education sector in Sydney, Australia and this conservative ideology of privitisation (by any means necessary) of/for all public assets is staring us in the face, daily. Just to give a brief example of how this is being done … in-one’s-face and subliminally?? ALL staff and students have been virtually co-opted (bullied, scared) into working from home and not being on campus. If staff do attend their campus, there are forms to be completed on entry, as well as, on exit – all under the guise of ‘showing concern for your welfare’ … etc. etc. Additionally, several months previous – ALL staff were required to download a tracking app onto their mobiles, under the auspices of ‘making it easy to know your college location. So, this means that one needed to have 2 tracking devices – for your safety – of course.… Read more »
I’ ve been suffering from nasty dental issues throughout the lockdown. Recently I had some time to kill so I decided to call the dentist’s, again… I had called them in early May and had been essentially told “tough cookies, take ibuporfen”. On my first phonecall I asked them whether the order to stop working had come form the government and they said it had come from the medical authority. Anyway , after I explained (again) the problem to the person answering calls ( who was utterly clueless on dentistry) I was called back some hours later. The first thing I was asked by the dentist on the phone was if I have coronavirus, followed by a couple more questions that were essentially the same question. It was obvious this person was reading from a script, and I wonder why they asked these questions since we both knew I was… Read more »
try brushing gently with salt n eating lots of fruit n salad.
I’m noticing something alarming, depending which country my VPN uses some sites are firewalled. Nordic countries particularly dont seem to like Off-G, but Ireland is one of the worst censors blocking UK column & many other “controversial” sites, but seems ok with off-G.
Anyone else have that experience?
I’ve found access to a couple of sites rather slow for the last two days – without VPN – but I do get through in the end. Probably a few little experiments by the “authorities”, just to check that everything works ok…
I presume this has been posted here already, but I think it’s a vitally important video. https://www.activistpost.com/2020/06/problem-reaction-solution-how-covid-19-leads-to-global-governance-complete-control.html The Great Reset Plan Revealed: How COVID Ushers In The New World Order Activist Post – June 6, 2020 By Spiro Skouras For months we have seen our way of life change dramatically. We have been told time and time again things will never be the same and we must accept the new normal. Now the social engineers have revealed their hand and have officially launched their solution to this crisis. The proposed solution is the Great Reset. In this report we examine what exactly is the great reset and who is involved. We also explore what the Great Reset means for humanity as we face unprecedented times. Now is the time for a ‘great reset’ . . . .weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/ World Economic Forum and UN Sign Strategic Partnership Framework… Read more »
Appreciate these links Lost. I stumbled across Spiro maybe 6 weeks ago, but lots of other links being posted by other commenter also, and, my phone data is prepaid, which means I have to limit the amount of videos I watch.
This one is only 22 mins long, which is good!
Wrench In The Gears blog has also done excellent work on where things are heading viz the Global Reset and the Fourth Industrial revolution on the horizon.
Chilling.
Especially the part where the woman calmly announces that, when they can read people’s thoughts and emotions, people will need a safe space to think in case they are worried about what they are thinking about. She didn’t say ‘if’; she said ‘when’.
I never paid much attention to the trans-humanism agenda. It has my full attention now.
I’m beginning to suspect that ‘they’ are using 1984 as an instruction manual, rather than taking it as the warning it was meant to be. Moreover, with the technology now available, it appears they can transcend anything Orwell was able to imagine in terms of how the Thought Police might operate.
Of course they also have the advantage of a great deal of literature written AFTER Orwell’s prophetic work. To think I actually remember a time when “1984” was a horror story which couldn’t possibly happen here… The “authorities” really should look at other stories, like John Wyndham’s “The Midwich Cuckoos”, if they want to see themselves in a mirror. That’s another instruction manual in how to become sub-human…
Good point.
Microchips rather than aliens. Get them while they’re young!
Your comment also prompted a memory of The Stepford Wives. Maybe trans-humanism aims to turn us all into compliant, contented and above all pacified … I was going to use the word ‘individuals’, but of course that would be the diametric opposite of what we would have become. So, let’s go with automatons.
This particular rabbit hole is extremely uncomfortable and not one I would even have considered only a short time ago. If nothing else, this ‘crisis’ has changed us in ways we could not have foreseen. Perhaps we are overreacting and time will show such speculation is/was nonsense. We’ll shake our heads and ask how we could even have considered such a ridiculous scenario. As foolish as I might feel at that point, I’d take that over the alternative.
The Stepford Wives is indeed a very apt comparison. With regard to “Groupthink”, that tendency in some people is a throwback to a time when we had basically not evolved to a truly human stage, and our sense of belonging to the world at all was rooted in the same self-preservation impulse as animals possess – that very sense of group. It seems to me that we are getting to the point where there is a sort of 50-50 balance between those who have arrived at a sense of individual identity, and those who simply couldn’t survive without belonging to a group. It is obviously the latter who are most vulnerable to exploitation by unscrupulous “individuals”, although that term is not entirely appropriate to those who have willingly sold their souls for money and power. They have a groupthink of their own. Today I saw a picture of a school… Read more »
Wardropper, the question that TPTB are not answering and the MSM not asking is, how long are these measures intended to last? Such as it being compulsory to wear masks on public transport. It looks as though social distancing is going to end in July but what about everything else. When are the Dentists going to re-open, when are hospitals going to re-open etc. That’s when we will know what is to come. There are omens, two weeks ago it was announced that, instead of the Coronavirus Act being monitored in Parliament every 21 days that had gone up to every 28 day. Not a peep from the MSM. Just slipped in under the radar. Not a peep of dissent from that idiot, Starmer. It’s creeping slowly but surely until we do something to stop it.
I am lucky enough to be currently living in Iceland, where the dentists went back to work a couple of weeks ago. Some shills for the “authorities” in the US and UK are trying to make out that in some countries the situation is far more perilous than in others, but I’m not buying it. This virus has achieved prominence well beyond its abilities.
Visited Iceland about 20 yrs ago. Great place. I even got used to the all-pervading smell of sulphur. That was a shock the first time I had a shower (in Reykjavik where the water comes from those huge storage cisterns on the hill).
I have a good friend, of Norwegian extraction, who is a geologist there.
Was seriously considering moving there a few years ago, but now looking at warmer places. Getting too old for the climate, although the all-night parties at midsummer and midwinter would have tempted me in my younger days 🙂
I miss the warmth of my earlier life in the southern UK and in the USA, but there are other kinds of warmth than the purely physical ones, and on a sunny June day, like today, Iceland is unbeatable. Still, the summers are really far too short for my liking… On topic, I think I can detect a certain amount of stress in the expressions of some of the experts who come on TV here to talk about CoVid, as if there is pressure on them to say things which they are not entirely comfortable with saying, but, on the whole, I reckon we’re doing okay compared with most of our European neighbours. I took a walk in downtown Reykjavik yesterday, and I can’t remember seeing a single mask! Bottles of hand disinfectant are everywhere, and the 2-metre reminders painted onto the floor haven’t been removed yet, but many people… Read more »
I don’t know if it’s still there but I remember going to the Hard Rock Cafe and eating a ‘pig sandwich’ aka a loaf containing half a pig. Like a snake, it took me about a month to digest. Re the ‘experts’ I think you make a good point. I’ve noticed the same thing when Johnson makes his pronouncements. I’m certainly not a fan of his but it does look as though he’s under duress. Not that he deserves any credit for being coerced. UK Column have recently presented some interesting evidence concerning who is really running country. The fewer people wearing masks the better. If those wearing them perceive themselves to be in a minority, I believe that will bother them. Herd instinct is hard for some people to overcome. If it seems that the herd is moving in a different direction, perhaps they will feel compelled to join… Read more »
I say we should just keep collecting evidence. Nuremberg II might take a long time to get its act together, but the human race has no future along the path it is currently following… I’m certain that any “second wave” would be as planned as the first, inasfar as the media would milk it for all they’re worth, until we all just want to die…
Yes the Hard Rock Cafe is still there, open 5 – 9 pm, and with live music! Too noisy for me, but the food was good last time I was there!
I agree. On weight of evidence – real evidence – a lot of people would do time.
Following this Beijing situation with interest. They don’t have the same get outs as last time ie “we didn’t know it was serious” (their words, not mine) so it will be instructive to see how they explain the spread to the west. If that happens of course.
Re the HRC, glad some things don’t change 🙂
Can’t find fault with anything you wrote (not that I want to, but you know what I mean). It’s a strange dichotomy. The individuals are, as you pointed out, the ones who seem to be aware of what is going on; whereas the ‘herd’ tend to follow the leader. I’m not using herd in a derogatory sense here – it’s just a difference in levels of dependence. However, it seems to me that survival (trying not to be too melodramatic here) lies in communities. In any given existential crisis, the individual has little chance on his own. An individual can be picked off at will, separated from the herd as he is. It is only in community that the odds of survival increase, as our history as a species tends to indicate. So how do we achieve that level of community, whilst maintaining our individuality, in… Read more »
I agree likewise with all you say. My aversion to groupthink is, as I am sure you realize, far from being an aversion to community enterprises, where people with different opinions can still work together for the greater good. I would define groupthink as cult-like in its essential nature of seeing only one right way of doing things, usually under the leadership of a despot.
Absolutely.
Read a fascinating book a few years ago called The Wisdom of Crowds by James Surowiecki.
Despite the implicit message in the title, it was a convincing demonstration of how groupthink is detrimental to good decision making; the premise being that a diverse group which includes non SMEs tend to make better decisions than a group solely composed of experts.
He drew on examples from boardrooms to NASA to support his argument. Well worth a look.
In the same vein, The End of Average by Todd Rose, is another I’d recommend. This one dispels the myth of the concept of statistical average when applied to people, using some surprising examples that would never have occurred to me.
Both are pertinent under the current circumstances.
Hi Phillipe, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The way forward is for like minded communities to get together. Like you I have no intention of taking any vaccine, mask or identity passport. I wonder whether, once furlough comes to an end and it is known just how many unemployed there will be although there are millions more already, whether the narrative amongst the sheeple mask wearers might change when they find themselves in a no job situation or in dire straights financially. Like you say, if enough, however small, communes of people get together and act together then the balance may well be tipped. Let’s hope so because the shit is now travelling close to light speed.
Indeed. It’s a bad time to be a fan with the amount of shit incoming. It’s a good point re the manner in which the economic situation will perhaps change the views of the mask cheerleaders. I have noted, amongst the people I’ve spoken to, that the biggest proponents for lockdown, masks etc are those who have retired ie they have no skin in the game anymore. I know a few younger people who are buying into the mayhem, but they are in relatively secure employment so, again, are not and will not be materially affected. If the lockdown in Beijing is anything to go by, we should be expecting ‘them’ to launch their ‘second wave’ at us fairly soon, so maybe the mask mafia won’t have time to consider the error of their ways and will, instead, enjoy telling the rest of us how right they were… Read more »
Hi Phillipe, 2nd wave be damned! I don’t believe there will be one largely because I don’t believe there has been a first one!! Just the thoughts of one loony conspiracy theorist! I think China know this is bio warfare being wrought on them and are taking immediate action to curtail its effects. I think you are right about the demographic of the mask wearers, those that have nothing to lose. What surprises me is the number of under 40yrs who are wearing them. As our Chief Medical Officer and WHO said, younger adults are not at risk from it. 90% of the population will not get it and those who do, will have only very mild symptoms. So,why the masks? Gosh, the power of mass hysteria and propaganda over facts is frightening. Like you, I go out of my way to steer clear of these masked… Read more »
🙂 Definitely don’t want to go down with bullshit!
Unfortunately their waves, be that first or second, don’t require our belief. They have plenty of people buying into it – enough to achieve whatever their objectives may be. I always thought that if Covid 1984 was a bio-weapon, it was a bit shit. Perhaps their next one won’t be. Who knows?
Mass hysteria is unfortunately predictable if certain conditions are met. It’s like clockwork. Facts are irrelevant. It’s the narrative that counts. It’s the reason companies have such large advertising budgets. A sad indictment of what we have become.
Phillipe, it is indeed a sad indictment.
A couple of years ago, the Korea Institute of Science and Technology demonstrated the ability to control the perceptions and thoughts of mice and thereby control their behaviour. They did this using a technology called optogenetics, which involves implanting fibre optics into the brain and then using on/off to control neural activity. Given the closeness of the biology of mice and humans, I fear that it is only a matter of time before this technology is applied to human beings, assuming it has not already been done.
Terrific.
I wonder how many people, saturated with Avengers, Transformers, X-Men, superhero etc movies will be queueing up to get that sort thing implanted in the hope of developing some kind of superpower.
Of course, there won’t be enough magic implants for everybody – at least not everybody around today – so they either relegate everybody else to what they would see as an underclass (although I prefer the term human), or they kill an awful lot of people over a short period of time – let’s say 1 or 2 generations.
I wonder what mechanism would be able to achieve that globally, in one hit, without raising too many alarm bells amongst the general population. It would have to be sold to them as something beneficial and it would have to be mandatory 🤔
They are already experimenting with this technology in primates. https://www.pnas.org/content/116/52/26195
In the light of the coronavirus responses, one thing I would note is the technology’s use of viral vector for gene transmission. A vaccine for a virus (the coronavirus) would obviously involve the administration of a virus.
So essentially two birds with one stone. I read the abstract of the article and down into the text a bit but haven’t read it all yet. Hypothetically, if this (perfected) viral vector were delivered to everybody everywhere in a vaccine, would it be possible for ‘them’ to induce different outcomes on a targeted basis? For instance, if they want some people to survive (under their control, obviously), they induce response a; whereas if they want others to die, they induce response b? If that’s possible, how could those outcomes be induced on a global scale? You’d need a widespread control net of some sort – maybe disguised as a communications network. I suppose in areas where geography and population distribution make said net unviable, you could use satellites instead, although you’d probably need a few thousand. I’ll sleep safer at night knowing that nothing… Read more »
In terms of this technology – I have no idea how advanced it is. The technology in terms of mice is clearly advanced enough to control perception and thoughts and thereby behaviour. However, primates have much more complex brains, which obviously presents serious difficulties, as the article makes clear. Moreover, whilst it is doubtless easy to find scientists who are prepared to conduct such experiments on mice, it is much more difficult to find scientists who are prepared to do so on macaques or any primates, as they would be unethical. Thus, to sell it to scientists, the experiments have to be presented as having health applications, rather than control: hence the focus of the article. However, given what we know about military research past activities, it does not seem unlikely that there is secret military research in this area, none of which would be published. So here’s a… Read more »
Good points re the ethics and persuading (ethical) scientists to undertake the research and hence the promoted sensorimotor neuron disease and Parkinsons applications. As you point out though, research conducted by ‘other’ scientists – the ones that the Gates of this world always seem to attract – wouldn’t need to justify itself. My position tends to be however far along any given technology is claimed to be, it is usually far beyond that point. Maybe I’m just cynical, maybe not. Your ‘conspiracy theory’ definitely has merit, I think. As I mentioned yesterday though, on top of the control benefits it would bring to them, some sort of ‘kill switch’ would be hugely convenient, given what we know of their de-population agenda. If they aren’t going to murder people directly (even the dimmest mask wearer might sit up and take notice of that), then a means of remotely ‘switching… Read more »
As a postscript to my last response, it just occurred to me that there is a fictional precedent for what I described, or at least similar in scope.
Cell, by Stephen King relates the story of a signal sent out to every mobile phone which caused those using their phones to essentially go mad and start attacking everybody around them. The signal was constant so if anybody used their phone subsequent to the initial ‘attack’, they would still fall prey to the madness. I won’t go through the entire plot. Fascinating concept though.
Now, take cell phones out of the equation, insert the technology you described and add 5G as the signal generator.
It seems King beat Crichton to it (although I think Crichton was already dead at that point).
Joe Quinn’s views on this – on which I almost totally agree with https://www.sott.net/article/436327-Everything-You-Think-You-Know-About-Coronavirus In other news, well they are verbally beating up John Goss on Craig Murray’s blog…so I wrote this…they won’t publish it “I don’t have a problem with Craig Murray. I think he is a very brave man of great integrity… But why the hell are so many of the commenters verbally beating up John Goss, simply because you do not agree with his point of view… He used the word “nasty” about some of the verbal attacks on him, and I think some of you, have actually met him. I think John Goss is a highly intelligent man of great integrity, and I completely agree with his views on this. He is standing on steady ground of well documented facts. Be nice to him. He is always very polite… Read more »
John Goss went head-to-head with the dickhead former moderator Clark (who has his tongue so far up Craig Murray’s arse, it tickles Craig’s tonsils). That eventually becomes a death sentence on Craig’s btl.
Tony, I have seen this before in 1999. which is why I have never volutereered to be moderator on a blog (especially for free). They are usually spotty young kids, who now think they are god, and can now delete anything you write and totally ban you, if they really do not like your opinions conflicting with their Dad’s. I thought Wow, when my 13 year old son deleted what I wrote (anonymously – though he knew it was me) on his blog. I was just trying to calm Stormy Daniels down. Her kid had been playing computer games with my son in the USA, about the year 2000. She wanted to send her son to war. She wanted him to join the US Army. I had absolutely no effect, so he probably did. My lad doesn’t do that – well not beyond laser shows and paintballs. He doesn’t moderate… Read more »
Re. “They are usually spotty young kids, who now think they are god, and can now delete anything you write and totally ban you, if they really do not like your opinions conflicting with their Dad’s.”
Well, perhaps spare a thought (or more)?
Zimbardo. Prisoners and guards?
Deliberate polarisation-divisiveness?
Deliberate confusion “right-left”?
Coercion? Stockholm? Acting under orders?
Whose children are being bombed?
Whose elderly family are being killed?
Why is there wall to wall psyops against the public?
Who benefits from distraction and diversion?
I always suspected it was the other way round with Craig and Clark. Clark is such an aggressively manipulative entity that I tend to only skim over his comments for health reasons i.e. he tends to drag you down into his mind-bending whirlpool. He sunk the 9/11 thread and then had the audacity to try and start up his own. I tend to see Craig as the puppet here.
…that went off too soon!
Might “Clark” be the handler?
Indeed – or perhaps Clark is the mole and Craig is the patsy?
Clark always takes the Establishment line on everything. His big one is XR, which we all know to be an establishment astroturf. He went on the last march that was in support of Julian Assange, as did I and my son. He got to hob nob with Craig Murray and the other leading protesters, and was treated to a free dinner with them at Craig’s expense later on. But I have only ever seen him reference Julian by using his plight to segue into an advertorial into XR or to make very bland approvals. He’s an infiltrator, 100%. Craig is a fragile character. He is 100% on the side of right, but his fragility has allowed infiltration by dark forces.
That’s my feeling about Murray too. Seems to have had an excellent upbringing and education, but that can sometimes lead one to overlook the existence of a couple of sneaky bullies, along with the rampant evil which surrounds us today, of course. His energy and courage are nonetheless inspiring.
Well done, Tony. You have my utmost respect for your sense of fairness and opposition to what amounts to gratuitous bullying.
Further to my comment at 11.06 pm 14 June, I have just made the mistake of looking at CM’s blog to see the depth of critical thinking going on there. I could only look through half of the comments on the final page on the latest thread before giving up. I had been tempted to chip in but decided better of it. What would be the point? Most of the people on there are expounding completely brainwashed comments and base their confidence in lockdown entirely on conjecture and the fallacious post hoc ergo propter hoc principle that numbers of cases dropped after lockdown so it must have been because of lockdown. The final straw for me was when they linked to videos of an obnoxious moron going by the name of ZDoggMD who based his condemnation of the Elmhurst nurse (Erin) on the fact that she was an anti-vaxxer… Read more »
I totally agree re: the CM blog. I am convinced that the majority of commenters are paid up trolls. (Indeed – I even think that’s the reason the blog exists in the first place!) I just love it when they play the old heartstrings card e.g. “How dare you doubt this virus! My entire family have just been wiped out by this plague! I held a month-old baby in my arms and watched it cough itself to death as the evil cloud of COVID hovered above!” etc.
I very much agree.
I died two months ago myself from this terrible virus, so I should know…
I sometimes think we all died 12 weeks ago. And even if the lockdown stopped I think there are many who would be afraid to come out now. It’s like a mass Stockholm Syndrome.
Most blogs, including Murray’s, are prone to inane commentary – probably a habit learned from YouTube, where the ignorance can be truly breathtaking. But the articles he puts out on the blog are, in my view, entirely worthwhile, even if one isn’t always in 100% agreement with everything he says.
You get to know the names worth reading and the ones who are not. Re: the latter, even skimming can be deadly since you tend to feel “Right! I’m not going to put up with that!” and you’re already typing in an angry reponse before you stop yourself and think, “What am I doing!” and you pull bcak from another interminable pointless bickering match with pricks who aren’t worth yout time.
That’s valuable advice, George, and valid for any site one visits.
Then how come they let you post?
Your comment is off-topic and low quality. You appear to be baiting an argument from some unknown enemy who lives on some other blog.
Do you realise how this makes you look?
Now, Tony, as you’re so keen for us to know your name, do you think your time could be better used elsewhere?
What I mean to say is, could you be doing this on your own personal blog and not spamming here? I really think it would improve the quality of your contribution to be somewhere else.
Then how come they let you post? @Tonyopmoc wrote the post to express his indignation in defence of John Goss and it is, effectively, addressed to the moderators on Craig Murray’s website. He actually says that “they won’t publish it”. From their comments and the way they express themselves, it is evident that @Tonyopmoc and @John Goss (who also posts on here) are both men of integrity and compassion. Whilst not wanting to appear patronising, it seems to me that Tony gets much satisfaction and comfort, like many of us on here, in exchanging thoughts and life experiences with other commenters here who we think of as friends in a world where isolation is now the order of the day. Many of us (myself included) indulge in going off topic occasionally but as long as it doesn’t dominate a thread there is little harm done; it just… Read more »
Judyj fully supported.
I’m hoping Patrick Henningsen is having a well-deserved holiday this weekend, and nothing sinister about the lack of Sunday Wire this weekend. Maybe Basil Valentine is partying with him after the great win for Kameko last weekend in the 2,000 Guineas.
The following article claims there are two distinct versions of Covid-19, the Wuhan strain and the Euro-American strain.
http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1184
It seems the Euro-American strain of Covid-19 had already spread worldwide long before Wuhan.
The Wuhan strain (just like SARS before it) is dangerous, especially to the elderly, but not particularly contagious, whereas, the Euro-American strain is quite contagious, but not particularly dangerous.
If classified, the Euro-American strain would be classed as another strain of the common cold. Because it wasn’t dangerous the Euro-American strain spread worldwide without being noticed.
First, I think that there is a virus at all at play has not been veritably evidenced. That is the first question that needs answering. Factors behind an epidemic are complex. If its not a virus, and if contagiousness is not an issue, then this would point to other factors. For instance one would then try to ask oneself what changes have been made to our environment in the last decades, changes that may be affecting at least those with a fragilised immune system, and hence possibly in the long run more and more people. I havent much followed if chemicals of a totally different category were introduced in recent decades, but one thing that has progressively become pervasive since the 90s are manmade electromagnetic radiation, which you cant now avoid anywhere. Now its known since 2015 that these differ from natural EMR (e.g. light) in at least two fundamental… Read more »
it is not quantized (i.e. made of photons), while the latter is.
this is simply false. all electro-magnetic radiation is quantized; it’s an inherent property of the physical universe, not subject to human engineering.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantization_of_the_electromagnetic_field
Im sorry but wikipedia is not a source and here you are talking to someone who actually knows about this, and has studied the question for her own scientific work.
Let me also add that in scientific matters, you should first cite valid scientific sources in peer reviewed journals or books, and if you havent yourself checked the arguments and experiments in the papers, then say, according to such and such a scientist this is not the case. Only if you have checked yourself can you then say I dont agree with you and we can then have a valid discussion.
Your comment is just of the level of the pseudo-scientific debate that has been going on since this affair began. It has no worth. Now asking someone to explain why he or she is making such an assertion is a different thing. There is no harm in not knowing.
— says somebody who provides no references for a claim which contradicts the current understanding of the physical universe.
https://www.google.com/search?q=quantization+of+electromagnetic+radiation
Id encourage everyone to learn science from veritable scientific source rather than internet gossip.
Anyone interested should start with:
Panagopoulos, D. J. 2018. “Man-made electromagnetic radiation is not quan-
tized”. In A. Reimer (Ed.), Horizons in World Physics, Volume 296, Chap-
ter 1, 1–58. Nova Science.
Like you, I too have a ouija board. And I agree with you that everything scientific has to be approached with scientific rigour. For instance, I thought it wasn’t working until someone told me to plug the dangly wire thingy into a wall socket. Silly me. When I did it spelled out “D-I-R-A-C“. Does that count as a reference?
nevermind
I forgot to add that this is assuming there have been deaths, excess or otherwise, as well as cases that cannot be attributed any other known causes, some other disease, negligence, wrong treatment, and so on. The first question even before that of a virus or environmental factors is to assess whether there even was anything unseen before, globally or locally in some places.
the deaths sprung up all over the world following lockdown. lockdown makes them appear when nothing could be spreading other than fear. there is no evidence the alleged genetic material had anything to do with it. how could it kill someone? it is completely insane idea.
it is nothing more than a destructive cult belief system. john rose has videos explaining how experience with fruit cleansing is all that is neede to disspell the myths. focus.
Steve Jobs was a fruitarian. Early death from pancreatic cancer. James Fixx was fixated on running and jogging as the way to a healthy life. Dead in his early fifties from a heart attack while jogging. George Oshawa espoused a healthy everything based on healthy food (‘macrobiotics’). Dead of a heart attack at 72. Etcetera.
Robbobbin, Music to my ears. Some sense in this BS world of ‘healthy eating’
There was a heavy flu last winter that hit quite a few people in Europe but the important point is there is no real proof these illnesses are contagious or caused by a virus.
People often ask how could the nazi thing have happened in Germany? Just look around you in England today, that’s how. No one’s got a clue what’s happening. Yesterday I saw a young hipster wearing a huge perspex visor,a polythene bag over his hair and the regulation plastic gloves! Was he terrified of germs or making a statement, who knows? When they celebrated VE day,two meters apart,naturally, a neighbour was talking about the end of fascism, I said “or the beginning” she had no idea what I was talking about. They expect the media to tell them every thing and what to do. Is it the emf stew we’re living in, the spraying, whatever it is our brains have stopped functioning
boycott supermarkets. get fresh as possible produce and eat uncooked. there is biophotons that are needed. the microwaves from wifi certainly need to be reduced as much as possible. those phones should not be used for non emergency comms. switch off b4 bed might be something people would be willing to try.
They expect the media to tell them every thing and what to do.
Exactly! The fact that people just accept as gospel truth whatever they read/hear in the mainstream media is currently driving me up the wall. They just don’t question it. And they even have the nerve to describe people in supposedly less-advanced countries as ”brainwashed”…
HI Gwyn, It’s driving me up the wall too.By now, as it is in most countries around the world, CV-19 should be relegated to an inconsequential end of news item. Instead of which, we are still bombarded with it every day. And yes, I agree with you about criticising other countries, We will never be able to do that again and should never be allowed to.
If the EMF stew and/or spraying is the cause then why are so many of us who live ‘normal’ lives not affected? So I can’t accept that argument. Now, on the point that some of the world has gone mad I agree but I think it started decades ago when teachers began to have more influence on children than did their parents. In the ‘olden days’ we were lucky to have one working parent and one stay at home to ensure the kids got adequate nurturing and teachers had little influence other than the 3 R’s. The Marxists have succeeded in the education field and the world will never be OK again until education is restored to teaching the 3 R’s and parents accept their responsibility to teach their kids about the real world and help them to develop critical thinking. In the old days when teachers taught I… Read more »
“…the world will never be OK again until education is restored to teaching the 3 R’s and parents accept their responsibility to teach their kids about the real world and help them to develop critical thinking…” When I was at school the head boy visited an ice cream factory and went home to tell his parents that they made ice cream out of butter. His parents ridiculed him and told him to stop making stupid stuff up. Turns out they manufactured ice cream out of ‘reconstituted’ cream that is made by forcing butter back into an emulsion with water using a mechanical process that was actually identical to that employed by smaller, home ‘cream makers’ that were popular in Britain during and for years after World War II because of food rationing. Apparently my school mate’s parents didn’t own one. Butter was available to some food manufacturers at a lower… Read more »
Alessandro, the decline in education has nothing to do with the Marxists. The decline in educational standards has been largely due to the basic curriculum now being largely based on the USA one. History taught in schools now is practically all USA history. Most Governments in the world that have socialist Governments have a far higher standard of education than we do. Education in the UK has been totally dumbed down USA style (hence all these mickey mouse courses as opposed to the original basic education including the 3 ‘R’s. If Marxists were in charge of education I am sure it would not be dumbed down, it might be controlled to some extent, but not dumb.
Hi Nixon, in a blog on another Off-g article about CV-19, Steve Hayes set out quite a long list actually of how we are already in a Fascist Totalitarian State. All true and all current. I for one will say this, surely the world must now recognise that the orange baboon in the White House must be the new Adolf Hitler, by a long way. The invasion of countries, a militarised police state, a racial group scapegoat (the Muslims) and so on and so forth. I went back and looked into Nazi history. I concluded that, although AH was a veritable evil Dictator, the Orange Baboon leads him by a country mile. The Nazi’s are here. The Orange Baboon mini me who is laughingly referred to as our Prime Minister is Trump’s Goebbels.
Fascist dictatorship, socialist dictatorship, it’s all the same to me… and the dictators,they don’t act alone and always just say what you want to hear. Trump, Johnson,just figureheads chosen well in advance. I remember reading how Ken Clark e? when calling at the Cameron house,arranging his offshore investments? ,used to say”good morning prime minister”to young David. Since reading Tragedy and Hope, I read that joke in a different light. The great business plan of The City of London and it’s Empire bulldozes on. Zombie serfs of the New World Order, that term is official now on the UN website!
Goebbels trumps Hitler, Johnson trumps Trump. The Empire of the City of London marches on. On the UN website they now announce the NWO!
I love the deadpan delivery of these news reports. No fluff just great real reporting.
Yeh, they’re great. Human news, not the pontificating, supercilious scripts of MSM.
A lugubrious Englishman, a contrarian Irishman and an excitable Scot. A great trio, ably supported by Alex Thomson and Vanessa Beeley.
Scottie is razor-sharp in his analyses and Alex sees the deep picture.
A lugubrious Englishman, a contrarian Irishman and an excitable Scot…
I was very disappointed not to see these words followed by ”…walk into a bar…”.
:o)
Alcohol in, drink taking out.
Before this virus hysteria I’d never heard of UK Column and Off Guardian. I never really trusted the MSM or governments as they don’t serve the interests of the population. It became very obvious from the start of this scam there was an agenda behind it and I smelt bullshit. Whenever a problem arises I always think well who benefits from this. My initial thoughts were Gates and big pharma. I had always warmed to Boris and believed he was very patriotic at heart and loved his country. I was wrong. I think behind the scenes he did initially put up resistance but that clearly evaporated very quickly as he turned against his own people and his now controlled by the organ grinder directing this scam. Boris is guilty of treason and man slaughter. I stumbled upon Off Guardian and Uk Column totally by chance and throughout this they both… Read more »
I had always warmed to Boris and believed he was very patriotic at heart and loved his country. I was wrong. Oh please, “I’d never heard of UK Column”…give it a rest Tommy.
“Patriots” have enabled foreign policy for the last 60 years.
Bojo, being the self-important buffoon that he is, was ‘off-message’ at the start. He was quickly put straight by his handlers. Don’t be too harsh on politicians (well, do, because they deserve it. But don’t blame them for the world’s ills. They’re not responsible). Listen to Mr Gold, Jim Sinclair’s comments about politicians at 54.30 of this interview. Listen through to a few minutes later about Epstein. Jim Sinclair is a family rebel of one of the USA’s Old Money families. He knows, from the inside, how things work.
https://youtu.be/VMCu9GWpgzg
He was put straight alright, that’s why he had to “contract” the “virus” and disappear for a couple of weeks. I kept waiting for a photo of BoJo sick in bed but apparently that stunt was not necessary.
Say again?
Hi Paul, glad you found us.
Bit o/t…Am an avid football follower and lately have been consoling myself by watching Bundesliga division 1 football from Germany (behind closed doors) where it started up again in mid May under Coronavirus restrictions without spectators. Approximately 6 games have now been played by all teams without supporters. The first few of these games showed some players wearing surgical gloves and whenever a player scored a goal his teammates congratulated him with a celebratory “elbow” with some not engaging at all in the adulation. On watching the highlights of a few of Saturday’s games (yesterday) it appears that the virus is no longer a problem in Germany as the players are now hugging, patting and embracing one another after a goal has been scored. So it is now quite obvious that the deadly virus is highly selective in its choice of victims and that German football players are totally safe… Read more »
Full house at the rugby in NZ.
Good to see some normality in regards to sports.
Ignore the arbitrary, incoherent, evidence-free lockdown.
It’s not law (let alone lawful) anyway: just “public health measures”.
Maybe not law, but my local newspaper was seemingly boasting that our local branch of the Plod, the Thames Valley Plodizei, were top of the league table in lockdown offence prosecutions. Presumably most of these were in the nearby “big city” of Oxford, rather than in the sleepy little Oxfordshire town where I live, and where not much happens, even when there isn’t a lockdown.
I hope some smart lawyer can make a name for him or herself by taking some of these cases to appeal.
Hi Mike, given Tory MPs, Professor Pantsdown and psycho Cummings amongst others have blatantly flouted lockdown rules and not been charged, a good lawyer should be able to appeal successfully any of these convictions.
Very much o/t, as it happens.We need the UK ‘Spring’ event.
This political line or side ddebate reminds me of an poster I saw years ago, with the image of trees and an axe, and the line was, the trees tought that the axe was an friend because the handle was made of wood. If you dont get, that, I am waisting time, and I have never taken side other than trying to find out whats the bloody facts, whom benefits, to follow the eh…. Bricks, forgotten already, I bet you have, and then came the racism, after all the previous years attacks about been an heretic/denier, and as the MSM puts it, we where then also white ass neo-nazi sumpremacists, yup and here we are to day in the year of the lord 2020 and the MSM witch feeds the public and politicians with the eh…. objective “cross my hart” truth, hu… and is extatic since they can slamm everybody… Read more »
This is intentional illiteracy for some kind of effect. I see it popping up more and more now.
I believe English is not Mikael’s first language.
The illiteracy is intentional, not necessarily by the individual, but at the insititutional level.
Try some more punctuation
Pandemic “one of the greatest wealth transfers in history”:
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/record-stock-rally-big-companies-edge-coronavirus-pandemic-jim-cramer-2020-6-1029284194
how does this man (sic) live with himself nevermind impose himself on the rest of us
Unedited footage of the clip of Matt Hancock at Haverhill Hustings
Bob, claim to fame here, I was there!! Every question he wouldn’t or couldn’t answer GET BREXIT DONE was his response! I was so sick I didn’t hang around long
How about this little item from today’s Guardian.
”Why is Dominic Cummings still in No 10? Because Vote Leavers never say sorry
says Peter Geoghegan”
Aha, so Coronavirus was all the fault of the Leave Brexit voters! This snide little insinuation is now doing the rounds and the Remainer malcontents still haven’t given up after the two electoral defeats. My guess is that they will still continue the campaign of subversion since they appear not to recognise that what they are trying to do is -overturning a wholly legitimate process – by all means necessary, legal or otherwise. It’s a bit like the Democratic National Committee trying to unseat Trump – the duly elected US President – by all and any methods that come to hand.
We have appeared to have descended into a Machiavellian age where the rule no longer count and the only thing important is winning
Why would the DNC unseat a president whose polices they have voted though every time, with absolutely NO opposition. And a president who has made them and their donors rich?
Very few here are convinced by this silly Kabuki theatre. I assume you are American.
I don’t understand the obsession with Cummings & goings, the right blame him for lock-down & the left for undermining it. In other news what has brexit got to do with corona virus & cummings, wasnt he a remoaner?
I suspect someone will be along shortly to explain to you why Brexit is at fault for everything that happens in the world.
It would be rare for him to miss such an opportunity.
Phillipe, that narrative is already well underway in the MSM. Peter Hogan, Irish EU Commissioner said this publicly. The UK were going to suffer seriouis economic consequences as a result of a No Deal Brexit but the Government would blame it on Coronavirus or blame the EU for the negotiations failing even though Barnier has made it clear time and time again, as did Peter Hogan, that the UK is not in the least bit interested in negotiation. Sterling is tanking because of the certainty now o No Deal Brexit.
I suppose covid 1984 will end up being blamed for all sorts of things. We seem to be quite a way down that road already. Almost as if it were planned that way.
My point was more that a certain individual who frequents these parts believes that Brexit is the cause of everything, rather than the converse. I wouldn’t be surprised if said individual believes that covid 1984 is simply a distraction manufactured to take everybody’s eye off Brexit aka the real evil in the world today.
Hi Phillipe yep, point taken.
I defy people to accurately identify any politician as pro- or anti-Brexit – especially once you delve into the issues at stake – which 99% of people aren’t able to define coherently (and that includes the politicians and journalists who lecture us).
I’d defy anyone to find a politician with any integrity who wouldn’t flip flop at the highest bidder.
Still don’t understand why anyone thinks cummings & goings is anything different.
He exposed the fakery of the Governments drive to make prisoners of us all for ‘our own good’. He gave the game away.He embarrassed the Government and rubbed salt into the wound of the public who were told to keep indoors or face arrest.He writes Johnson’s speeches because Johnson’s a halfwit. He’s in to oust UKIP and Farage on behalf of the Israeli lobbyists. Cummings can write his own cheques.His smarmy, arrogant smirk isn’t affected. It’s natural.It’s the facial equivalent of giving you, me and anyone else, the one -fingered salute.
What a weird soup you are cooking.
Who, Cummings? No, definitely not!
Bet he would be if you paid him enough.
Objective, Cummings was the one who masterminded the infamous bus poster,the lies promulgated throughout the campaign and, I believe, one of the key players alongside Bojo who fraudulently spent millions of pounds of electoral money. Although the Electoral Commission investigated and found there to be evidence that met the standard required to prove criminal charges, the Police never ingestigated it on the basis that “it would not be in the public interest”. How on earth did they arrive at that conclusion? Cummings also stated publicly that those lies had to be told because they had to win the Referendum. Cue: Completely rigged election.
Cummings is there because he is important to the Tory party. Boris is a puppet. All leaders are.But Boris can’t come up with his own lines or remember those fed to him.He is wealthy but mentally slow.Cummings was brought in to get the UK out of Europe, to undermine UKIP and Farage.He writes speeches for Boris.It was probably his idea to pretend the great PM was heroically fighting coronavirus and almost ready for a ventilator before a recovery 3 days later ( well, it was Easter).Cummings is educated enough and ideologically savage enough to be bullet proof to the tories. Even this deadly virus was scared of him so left him to break lockdown..
No, no, no, he’s a maverick who listens to the “populist” socially conseravative working class white van man who stake their future on economic growth and house prices.
Disagree re Boris. He’s not slow or stupid, but probably one of the most blackmail-able people in the UK? I remember him years ago fronting the “Have I Got News For You” program. Unless it was all scripted in advance (didn’t seem to be) he slotted in very well with the rapide repartee buffoonery.
The inclination for buffoonery may have been the reason he caught covid-19? The smirk as he told us it was our inalienable right to go to the pub after work, but we weren’t allowed to any more sticks in my mind. They decided they needed a straight man to lock us down?
The only thing he caught was his withered balls.
Well, all the DNP has to to actually, is do what the CIA tried to do in Venezuela, just stand up and declare that Joe Biden is now the official, recognised President of the United States, the EU can agree that and hey presto, problem solved. Surely, if it’s good enough for Venezuela it must be good enough for the USA and the UK?
An illuminating post a few weeks ago observed that the NHS is really a management system. It is not about hospital care or GP surgeries as such. Many countries achieve free-at-the-point-of-use in different ways. And it has always been rationed, as well, putting patients last by definition and in law. Britons will know that the management system was captured, from the outset, by consultant physicians, and was structured with an eye to their convenience and remuneration. In return, consultants would exercise autonomous power to ration the service. Later under private-public partnership or PFI it was divided along the line of Trusts (think National Trust with a focus on buildings) and even more of the funding went on management. Investors are legally bound to prioritize their own interests. The patient remains last. That is how swanky new hospitals get built without ever opening. Crisis-hit hospital finds that private… Read more »
Surprise surprise. It has been obvious that since the market was introduced into the NHS by Blair that it’s destruction was on the horizon. This was accelerated massively by the coalition and it seems they (civil servants who operate on profit/loss scales) agree and Covid 19 is the once in a lifetime method of proving their bogus propaganda.
PS. Grammatical errors care of Google.
Lundiel, you are wrong about Blair introducing the market into the NHS that was Thatcher. Blair’s Government invested hundreds of millions of pounds on the Modernisation Agenda to bring in state of the art new treatment,equipment, surgery etc. What did the NHS do with the money? They massively re-graded themselves, created tiers and tiers of new Mangers,er, to manage this money and not one penny went on Patient care. His Government also put an additional 300 million pounds into modernising pancreatic and stomach cancer diagnosis, treatment and outcomes which were, and still are, close to the worst in the world. Five years later, a Senior executive of the NHS was on Radio 4 because a Report compiled by the Government about this ring fenced funding has found that not extra patient had been treated, there had been no improvement in patient outcomes, no new, modern treatment was introduced treatment that… Read more »
Always on the money amidst this traveling circus!
The psyop started with that mawkish, satanic NHS cult worship at the opening ceremony of the 2012 Olympics.
Hi moneycircus, i want to say this, I agree mostly with what you have said but, contrary to public opinion, Nursing is now a highly paid profession.
If the marxists are taking over the UK they are doing a terrible job of being Marxists, as the rich get astonishingly richer and as the workers are impoverished on a massive scale. And more than ever before, race hate and xenophobia have become government policy.State funding for the unemployed, for the sick for the old and disable is being cut back to the bone, the countries assets are being sold off, not nationalised. The NHS and BBC are in the waiting room of privatisation, and many small companies are being pushed over the edge into bankruptcy by our right wing government for large US corporate aliens like Amazon to mope them up or take their trade. I don’t see much marxism or socialism there, I just see US corporate fascism.
So why are you at war with the left, when the corporate far-right have us by the balls?
Well, if the government do abolish the television tax, and allow the BBC to sink or swim in the market, that would be an excellent policy.
You want to hand a large chunk of British culture over to Comcast and Corporate facist in the USA, who will hide poverty, celebrate the rich and cause us all to hate each other. I’m not surprise you believe that, you are from a country that voted for more tory austerity, destruction and serious economic damage via Brexit. Good luck with that.
You’ve bought everything in leftist arsenal today huh? I raise you some trans-phobia.
The BBC is a propaganda organisation.
Jilly, hand it over to Comcst – hell no (or should that be Heill No) – can’t have that, Murdoch hates the BBC – guess who the Government will give it to?
Steve, I for one, although I am sick of the BBC political output as nothing more than Propaganda for the Government and cannot stand Kuenssberg, the BBC is the only producer of excellent drama, wild life, documentaries and for my part, as an avid Radio listener rather than a watcher of television, the Radio. I would hate to see them being disbanded. It is my understanding that the Licence fee accounts for only 1% of their total income. They have massive hits around the world which earn them significant revenue. I was surprised to learn that the Blue Planet for example, is a massive earner for them and is huge in China. I want the BBC to stay and stay for good without threat of any kind.
Oh dear. For last year, for example, the BBC received five billion pounds from the taxpayer. That is nothing like one percent of it revenue. The notion that the BBC produces excellent drama and natural history and documentaries is nothing more than nostalgia. The BBC is a propaganda organisation. It lies about everything. It even admits it is engaged in propaganda occasionally. As an example Annita McVeigh rebuked Admiral West: https://viewsandstories.blogspot.com/2018/04/bbc-asserts-it-is-propaganda.html If you want to support the BBC that is your right. But you should be aware that in doing so you are supporting propagandists who would by the standards employed at Nuremberg be guilty of crimes against humanity. If you think for one moment that I am resorting to hyperbole, I would refer you to the trial of Julius Streicher, who was found guilty of crimes against humanity for what he claimed was journalism and what the… Read more »
Hi Steve, I am fully aware of the BBC political reporting being extremely biased towards the Tories and in the General Election and now, they are a propaganda outfit for this Government. Kuenssberg lies about a lot of things. I have read in other places that the BBC political reporting used to be generally impartial until she and her boss James Griffiths (or something like that) took over political broadcasting. Since that time, there can be no doubt where the BBC’s political allegiances lay and also, where Kuennsberg’s do. I am also disgusted that John Ware’s documentary on anti-semitism within the Labour Party has been put forward for a BAFTA. However, Ofcom is there for a reason and they refused to investigate this. They are supposed to be the regulatory body. ITV with Robert Peston as their political editor (and in which Murdoch owns a 30% stake) is also guilty… Read more »
The BBC lies about everything. Not just party politics. Its natural history programmes are either no more intellectual than “I saw some exotic animals” or they are filled with Climate Change propaganda or even worse both. Its dramas are thinly veiled propaganda for neoliberalism. Its foreign reporting is little more than variations on Washington’s press briefings. There is no baby to save.
But you completely missed my point. I did not say abolish the BBC. I said abolish the television licence. If the BBC is as good as it constantly tells us it is, as good as you claim it is, it will thrive in the market place. If it is as bad as I think it is, it will wither and die.
Who is this “left” you are referring to?
I don’t know if there is much of an “effective” Left left. (If you’ll pardon the expression) By “effective”, I am referring to Marx’s famous line, “The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; the point, however, is to change it.” How many on the Left still aim to change the world? Or, perhaps more to the point, think they even CAN? One Ellen Meiksins Wood noted that the Left seem to have developed an attitude that is too pessimistic (they think that capitalism is here for good and there’s nothing you can do about it) and too optimistic (things ain’t so bad after all). Thus, they have slotted into the comfortable slot of being “cultural critics” and analyse e.g. the “fascist” tendencies of various TV programmes. Of course, to make it seem that these critiques still have any revolutionary potential, it helps that the Right whip… Read more »
There is nothing left-wing about the so called cultural Marxists – term which incidentally is nothing more than incoherent mystification. Marxism, a development of the Enlightenment, is epistemologically modernist; whereas, the so called cultural Marxists are epistemological relativists. One can no more be a Marxist and a relativist than one can be left-wing and pro-neoliberalism, which is of course precisely what we see at the George Soros funded Guardian.
Well precisely. Read Theodore Adorno and you’d think the most monumental matter in the world was the music that people choose to listen to. As Marx once said: “If this is Marxism then I am no Marxist!”
What do you think the protest in the USA are about? the state is busy hijacking them but the voice of the oppressed will never be silenced and that is what marxism is, the voice of the oppressed formalised.
I strongly suspect that you have never read the works of Marx. How many oppressed have you heard speaking of commodity fetishism? Surplus value? The labour theory of value? Or asserting that they make their own history, just not in circumstances of their own choosing? Etc.
”How many oppressed have you heard speaking of……..”
The key word that went over your head was formalised’.
It did not go over my head, but I notice you completely failed to address the question, which does not surprise me.
But here is another chance. Tell me how the concept “commodity fetishism” formalises the voice of the oppressed?
I have no need to jump through your silly hoops.
I presume you are referring to the anti-racism protests. I doubt if the state is “hijacking” them since – as OffG has pointed out – this entire matter of the George Floyd killing has been given a suspiciously high profile in the media who seemed to have suddenly lost all concern about social distancing. As if the lockdown was a social “pressure cooker” that has now been deliberately opened. Yes – this is “conspiracy” stuff and therefore, according to the present “Left” inadmissable. But I reckon Marx would have been rightly suspicious himself – not having been indoctrinated into the “true Marxism” of today.
I find it utterly baffling that people who imagine themselves to be “marxists”, have committed themselves to the theory that the ruling class do not ever meet to discuss how to further their mutual interests, or at least do not ever decide on any plan of action that would contravene bourgeois legality. because that would be a “conspiracy”, which all goodthinkers know only occur in Hollywood movies, but not the real world.
to call this theory wildly implausible, is a considerable understatement, but all the most learned marxist authorities assert that it must be so. strangely, they do not ever cite Marx himself in support of this position.
one sometimes has wild fantasies that the sources of funding for the left coincidence theorists might have something to do with their unanimous opinion on this subject. but that would itself be an anti-marxist conspiracy theory, so it obviously cannot be so.
The word “conspiracy” – indeed even the highlighting of it as “something odd” seems a pretty recent development. I reckon it was the JFK thing that really started it. The buggers upstairs knew they couldn’t gloss over the assassination with reason so they had to adopt this new mind fuck approach which puts into practice Orwell’s idea that if you control the way people use words then you can control their minds. Hence the demonisation of the word “conspiracy”. I would have said that pre-60s, the existence of conspiracies was pretty much taken for granted.
According to Marx, the state is the executive committee for the collective affairs of the ruling class.
Did you never wonder who Orwell based ‘Godstein’ on?
Think about it for a while. It will come to you eventually.
That, of course, should have read ‘Goldstein’.
Yes Jilly and the demonstrators around the world too. The oppressed are rising. Whether the uprising will be effective or not remains to be seen. We need to team up with the Yellow Vests.
George Mc Jeremy Corbyn was not one of those ‘left’ you refer to which is why the Security Services, the CIA, the MSM and national broadcasters had to join the campaign to get him out. He was too much of a threat to the establishment and the rich. So now we have a narcissistic pathological liar, buffoon and charlatan as our PM backed by a psychopath. Neat eh? Jeremy Corbyn won the hearts and minds and the debate, so he had to go.
Corbyn was a threat because he believed what real Labour believed. I also think he was a man of integrity who was unprepared for the ferocious conscienceless viciousness of the forces against him. He tried to play fair and they had no intention of doing so. Indeed, they wouldn’t even understand the concept.
George Mc. I don’t know if you have seen or read it but Corbyn, late last week, gave a really honest interview for Middle East Eye (key points are on The Canary). He said he had got everyone together and said he wanted to strive for unity between different ‘factions’ of the party. Reading between the lines, he all but said he had been surprised by what then happened. He also said he had made the mistake of trusting certain people (reading between the lines I think Stoogie Starmer might well have been one of those). Anyway, it’s worth a look at because I think he has been deeply affected by the vitriolic, vicious and malicious campaign against him by the MSM and within his own party. Anybody who has been through what he was put through would inevitably be affected. I admire him all the more for going out… Read more »
At the last election, the conservative Peter Oborne announced he would be voting Labour because he was disgusted at BoJo’s performance in comparison with Corbyn’s decency. It was heartening to see some people transcending the customary partisan show to see what was really happening. Of course, Corbyn lost and frankly Keir Starmer’s performance so far is dire. See here: https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2020-04-16/labour-officials-plot-corbyn-antisemitism/ Re: Starmer’s attitude towards the report of the investigation into the anti-Semitism allegations, He has also promised to investigate “the circumstances in which the report was put into the public domain”. That sounds ominously like an attempt to hound those who have tried to bring to light the party’s betrayal of its previous leader.The stench of cover-up is already in the air. And it’s no surprise that the chain round Starmer’s neck is being yanked with maximum force: https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/05/03/british-jews-are-too-eager-to-embrace-starmers-still-dubious-labour-party/ Since he became leader a… Read more »
Hi George Mc – yes the first thing Stoogie did was to apologise for the alleged anti-semitism within the Party when we all know it was completely fabricated by the BoD, the Jewish Chronicle and the MSM. Now for me, that would not be the immediate priority of a new Leader of the Labour Party that would be to continue the fight against austerity, challenge the lockdown etc. So, it is unfortunate that our Parliament is governed by Israel and the USA. I haven’t heard Stoogie or Johnson utter one word of condemnation about the annexation of the West Bank by Bibi. I forgot to mention that, in the interview Corbyn gave to Middle East Eye, he was asked about the ECHR ‘inestigation’ into alleged anti-semitism within the Party. Corbyn (and I am paraphrasing here) was dubious as to its outcome because he said, recently, the ECHR has now… Read more »
It may sound defeatist of me to say so, but the moment I found out the election results, I felt so devastated at the rejection of Corbyn, I felt I couldn’t give a flying fuck about what happened to the Labour Party after that. Corbyn was the last gasp of the old Labour and therefore about 40 years “out of date” i.e. he didn’t fit in with the neoliberal zombie creature spawned through Thatcher (but not by her since I regard her as another puppet). It’s not even that I regard the Zionists as being that important. It was simply a matter of anything that “did the job” of demonising Corbyn – I imagine the thought process behind the scenes as “Oh what can we use? Well Hitler/Nazis/ Holocaust is always the best Pavlovian button so let’s go for that!” And since it works – at least as a… Read more »
Hi George, The Times ran an article yesterday effectively telling Starmer he had to get rid of all the Corbyn Supporters. Stoogie will do it as well because he is a BoD stooge and an MSM stooge. If he does that, the Labour Party is no more. It will be nothing more than the Conservative Party mark 2. He hasn’t got a single labour value in his head and neither has his Cabinet with the exception of Rebecca Long-Bailey and David Lammy. What I think is really interesting is why is this Corbyn bashing still going on by the BoD and the MSM, they got what they wanted so why continue it. There’s something there but what. I think Corbyn won the hearts and minds of the Nation in the election campaign and he was the teller of truth. Something in me tells me he is still a problem… Read more »
So why are you at war with ukcolumnnews which consistently calls out this government’s sinister propaganda machine and its globalist, tyrannical war on dissent ?
Because I believe they are part of the ‘sinister propaganda machine’. The Alt-right are essentially the political wing of the security services, under US control, who have developed their own solutions of how we should all live and they are of course authoritarian, white Christian, doctrines. They hate the left, they hate democracy, they hate anything that gets in the way of their white supremacist dictatorship. They support in part the monopoly corporate facist of the USA, look at Farage and his views on the NHS.
The fifth column are about subverting British interests to US interests, that is what they are even if they don’t know that is what they are.
Well they’re a bit shit at propaganda then. Maybe they misread the memo from their intelligence service ‘masters’.
So, instead of defending them, they constantly highlight how and why they are a threat both to the UK and democracy in general.
Alternatively, yours could be some strange usage of the world ‘propaganda’ that I wasn’t previously aware of.
alternatively, maybe the actual covert propaganda machine has a direct interest in slandering its opponents, by accusing them of being sinister right-wing propagandists. that this is even possible, is because nobody knows what “left” and “right” even mean anymore. imagine such delusional idiocies as transgenderism being passed off as “left-wing”, and most people who identify as such, obediently swallowing this claim.
More than happy to entertain that possibility. (If so, I’m somewhat disappointed. I thought they would be a bit more … well, sophisticated. The whole ‘blunt instrument’ thing is a bit obvious.) Usually, when people post obvious shite on here, they make one or two comments then fuck off when it becomes clear that nobody is buying their rubbish. There are a lot of intelligent people posting on here regularly so the trolls can’t just get away with making some off-the-cuff comment and hope to gain traction. They probably disappear back to Twitter where that sort of thing seems to work. However, when one of them sticks around and continues to press a position that defies evidence and rational analysis, one does have to wonder why. Repeated debunking of their claims doesn’t seem to bother them. Now, we do have our ‘regulars’ here who follow the same… Read more »
Believe what you want, Madam.
Since the ukcolumnnews supports Julian Assange, is highly critical of British support of jihadis in Syria and criticizes Nigel Farage’s acquiescence to EU military union, it goes against three (and many more) of the US/UK Deep State’s sacred cows (aka ‘red lines’).
Your view of ukcolumnnews is idiosyncratic bordering on incoherent.
… bordering on disinformational.
Oh oh my socialist antenna is twitching! Remind me again what is socialist policy on lock-down & PPE?
Do you know what socialism is ? did marx have a view on lockdown?
Ah the old answer a question with a question deflection when you’ve run out of argument. The old ones are always the best.
Whooosh!. ……………My question points out that your terms are unusable, not fit for this discussion………what does this butter think about the neoliberalism? useless.
Because the left are the traitors who let the enemy in. Read Orwell’s A Tribute to Catalunya to see that the left has always been traitorous. Spain got 40 years of Franco thanks to them, and 100 years later Corbyn, by far a lesser of two evils and the UK’s last chance to avoid becoming an all-out US/Israel capitalist proxy, was killed by the Guardianista left.
Whereas the right are upfront about their abusive intentions, the left are double-faced shysters, the perennial victims, the finger pointers and experts at scapegoating.
Strange that Almondson, because the Left were the ones who created the NHS, a national,free education service, the welfare state, employment rights and so much more. The Labour Party Manifesto was not traitorous it set out a clear set of policies based on keynsian economics that would put this nation back on its feet. Jilly is right,it’s the Right that has now become so far right that it is rapidly looking like the Nazi party. Don’t mistake stoogie starmer as being from the Left. He’s a self-interested, media Stooge. The MSM are running the narrative that it was all Corbyn’s fault. BS. The MSM are trying to build Starmer up when his performance to date as LOTO is abysmal. I don’t think he has mounted an opposition to anything yet.
jilly, thanks for this very large dose of common sense.
Personal account No 2 in the above article prompted me to comment on a couple of recent illuminating conversations I have had. The first was with a lady I met in a local park who explained to me that she was a lawyer and considered that she had an enquiring mind leading her to be sceptical and critical of all we were being told. We ended up chatting for over an hour. One of the things she said was that her son’s girlfriend was a trainee midwife who had been asked to diversify by ‘training’ for duties on the intensive care ward. “She has just done a day’s course to learn procedures that she would normally be expected to attend an eight week course on”. The second conversation has been with my immediate neighbour who, coincidentally, is a fully qualified midwife. Ten weeks ago she was asked to switch… Read more »
My god they do have a lot of holidays, nurses, if not only for the fact my wife’s always bloody home & lockup stopped me going out to get away from her, I protest lockup!
I do love her, much more when shes not here 🙂
If she was on standby for 5 whole weeks without being called in, it does rather suggest that the ICU in question was not exactly over-burdened with work.
Well, my anger levels at the NHS are almost stratospheric now. I am sick and tired and I mean furious about all this clapping for the NHS. I am going to speak plainly, the NHS has done jack shit, absolutely nothing to treat or assist patients with SUSPECTED Covid-19. They are running in some areas at almost 3/4 empty. As these personal testimonies make clear, you can’t even get an appointment with a GP however desperately ill you are and I strongly suspect, if you are over 70yrs you won’t even get one of those. People are dying or becoming desperately ill not from CV-19 but from massive NHS failures. All elective surgery cancelled, all life saving treatment (cancer, renal etc) cancelled, all scans cancelled, out-patient’s closed and so on and so forth. Dentists? Don’t even get me started. The NHS should be criticised in the most severe manner not… Read more »
Why are you attacking the NHS, when it was ordered to do this by government, surly you should be attacking the right-wing government in the UK, Not the structures of the NHS.
A plane with only a right wing would crash!
As would a comment without any sense.
Socialists don’t like opposition! But I digress, still waiting for your definition of right wing? You must know you keep using the term.
The NHS has has a right wing structure since Maggie Thatcher rearranged it back in the 1980s, assisted by her acolyte Tony Blair, and those that followed.
When it came into being the nhs was stuffed with clinicians – admin amounted to about 6% of the workforce. Admin in today’s nhs is 30% and clinicians/ nursing staff and others have made way for this. Also, don’t forget that all management are Common Purpose trained. Don’t forget that the 2012 Health & Social Care Act removed the responsibility of the Health minister to run the nhs – that job went to Simon Stevens who’s background was in private healthcare. Today the two main people standing each side of the minister giving the covid update are both from the private sector – Whitty has received £40 million from bill gates and Vallance was hired directly from GSK. The private sector is already established in the uk and as such is available, as we have seen again in the covid hoax, to replace the nhs in offering healthcare as… Read more »
Hi Jilly, it isn’t just about CV-19, the NHS has been seriously failing patients for at least 20 years. It is nothing more than a self-serving, inward looking organisation. Human life is cheap to them especially those of the elderly. Around 13 years or so ago the inestimable Audit Commission did an in-depth review of the NHS. One of the key issues was that contempt for the elderly was deep rooted, endemic and historic within the NHS which resulted in older people being denied proper treatment, rehabilitation services and other relevant services. This derived from the absolute contempt of older people within the organisation. It also said that the NHS is populated with tiers and tiers of highly paid managers and administrators the majority of who had tiny sphere’s of responsibility and were not competent for the jobs they held. They found a lot more than this but these are… Read more »
Were they ordered by the government? The zombie doctor I spoke to told me the orders came from the medical authority, whatever its name was.
Dungroanin is pushing the propaganda that the NHS is providing treatment normally. He even has an actual study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.08.20119636v1.full.pdf
and, if that is not enough, he has an anecdote, which, according to him, proves that lockdown is not killing people, so all excess deaths are COVID 19 deaths, regardless of what it says on the death certificate.
Imagine! Didn’t see that coming. No, not at all.
It’s almost as if there is a pattern to his (her?) behaviour 🙂
Do you think I might be guilty of misgendering Dungroanin? I understand that is now worse than any (actual) crime. Maybe I will be receiving a visit from the thought police.
I do hope not, cos you wont be safe anywhere & risk losing your job & home for such HATEFUL speech!
Titania McGrath has probably tweeted about it already.
It’s a good point.
I’ve lost track of just how many genders we are expected to recognise these days.
Maybe we’re both guilty because Dun(ning Kruger)groanin identifies as something neither of us has even heard of.
Last I heard there were seventy-one; but that’s probably out of date.
If you heard that this morning, then by now (late afternoon) it’s well and truly out of date.
Maybe….but I think we all know you are just pulling his wire.
No, I am criticising his constant misinformation, disinformation and propagandising for fascism.
Hi Steve, well, well, well it’s no surprise to me! However, to the brain washed believers in this scamdemic, the truth is probably highly offensive.
terrain theory would put the blame on the pudrid terrain thinking vaxx cult had the slightest interest in helping detox a lymphatic expression. how do you think they get cancer patients if not by supressing detox symptoms? parasites only turn up when there is a putrid bacon n egg terrain. someone has to say it.
People will turn against the NHS and demand change. Change will be part government funding, part insurance contributions by customer and employer….. you’ve got to hand it to them, cracking way to destroy faith in the institution held in highest public regard.
Every cloud…..Least they wont be able to kill so many people.
Lundiel, I see what you are saying but I don’t think that’s any part of this. The NHS has been failing for many years. They grossly misuse public money (Tony Blair’s Government invested hundreds of millions in the Modernisation Agenda which funding was for implementing modern procedures, modern medical technology, bring up outcomes for the UK in line with those of Europe and the rest of the world (and we are way down the list in terms of outcomes in this country). What did they unashamedly use that money for? Well, not one single modern treatment was implemented, there were no increase in patient numbers seen or treated, zero improvement in outcomes and a total lack of accountability of where the money went to. Where it went (and I speak as an insider) was to regrade Consultants on to massive salaries, same with GPs, with the regrading of Professions Allied… Read more »
I agree. The problem no one will tackle is that doctors are self employed.
My first thought at the beginning of the clapping nonsense was “nhs getting set up for a humongous fall”.
And here we are.
Hi John Smith, I’m afraid I cannot agree with you about the NHS being set up for a humungous fall. The fall is their fault in it’s entirety. They are a seriously failing organisation and that’s not due to underfunding either. Nobody ever seems to ask where the money is going, it certainly isn’t being used in its majority for patient care. I do agree with you though that all this clapping is nonsense.
A massive amount of that money is being wasted on the PFI deals, which enabled private companies to siphon off eye-watering amounts of public money for year after year, decade after decade. Each year the NHS hands over billions to the private companies. PFI has been likened (I don’t recall by whom) to buying your house on your credit card.
I am sure you will remember the inquiry into Mid Staffordshire Hospital and that we were all told it would never happen again. The main summary findings of the inquiry were:
Those findings now sound like they could be equally applied to the NHS as a whole.
I disagree. The mid staffs débâcle was a political action backed by dodgy stats from someone whose modelling is no longer employed. That is not to say there weren’t structural problems there and in other hospitals, there were and are.
IMO much of the problems stem from the internal market out in place initially by Blair and seriously ramped up by the coalition.
If you got rid of the internal market and all its attendant managers, auditors, admin and accountants and returned to front line ward management, most of the problems would disappear.
I am not sure I know what you are disagreeing with. Is the reference to “dodgy stats” supposed to imply that you dispute the number of people who died as a result of the criminal negligence?
Yes.
They relied on the Dr Foster morbidity modelling based at Imperial College London…..ring any bells?
PS Dr Foster sought to gain financially.
The number of estimated unnecessary deaths was between four and twelve hundred. How many do you think it was?
It’s not very different to the hospital in Portsmouth where relatives smell payouts.
On a purely personal level. I sincerely pray that political interference doesn’t deprive me of a relatively painless death.
Steve MidStaffs hospital was scapegoated to distract the public from the endemic shortcomings within the NHS nationally. The idea, and it worked on the whole, was to have an enquiry focusing on one establishment to reassure the public that the health authorities take complaints seriously and ‘learn lessons’. The same was also true of Gosport. A later enquiry into the latter case also found that Government mandarins were complicit in a cover up. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/officials-misled-coroner-who-warned-of-hospital-opiate-deaths-6mj6mxxt3 The only reason that these cases came to light was that relatives of patients who were victims of the endemic mistreatment of elderly people were wise, brave and determined enough to challenge it. The woman who initially highlighted the shortcomings in Mid Staffs hospital, Julie Bailey, was eventually, after the case concluded, hounded out of her home and had to leave Staffordshire altogether after persecution and threats by ‘caring and compassionate’ NHS staff.… Read more »
Well said Judy.
I believe the teaching hospital in the North West you mention could be the same one I have described in earlier posts about my mother’s mistreatment.
Did they also have a scandal about babies dying in the maternity unit of one of their trust’s hospitals?
Hi Nemo I know the hospital you are referring to and no it isn’t the same health trust. I don’t mind revealing that my mother was diabolically treated – as we exchanged comments on before – at Wythenshawe Hospital in South Manchester. I’ll be honest with you, some may ask why we didn’t officially complain although we did make our views known on the ward whilst mum was incarcerated there. The truth is we wanted to get mum out of there to the safety of home as soon as possible so knew that we would jeopardise any co-operation from medical and social staff if we formally complained. They told us that once mum was home they “would be keeping an eye on her and at the [ironically!] first sign of us treating her in a way that was not in her best interests [they] would remove her from… Read more »
Hello Judy, I also had the veiled threats, and even a social services investigation of neglect initiated by healthcare professionals, which was categorically disproved. The CQC staff that I contacted were sympathetic, and said they would accept a formal complaint, but could not act on individual cases, only use them to assemble reasonable grounds for an overall investigation. The hospital Trust in question had already been censured by the CQC for the maternity scandal, but only low level staff were penalised. The real high level culprits escaped prosecution, i.e. the consultants and senior managers, as is the norm. The hospital staff used various means to frustrate the investigation, including raiding the medical records archives to purge or alter incrimidating evidence. Pictures of medical records scattered around the floor of the archives vault were even published in the local newspaper, supplied by an anonymous member of staff with… Read more »
Judy I do not see anything in your comment that supports your contention that Mid Staffs was scapegoated. A scapegoat is an innocent who is blamed for the sins of others. Mid Staffs was guilty.
Steve
Yes, you’re right. I should have chosen my description more carefully. I was trying to convey succinctly (but failed!) that they were used to draw attention away from the sins of others, equally culpable. ‘Scapegoats’ they were certainly not, I agree, and I apologise for misuse of the term which gives them a victimhood definitely not due to them.
Steve, thank you for this summary, it is excellent. And yes, it does portray the NHS as a whole. It’s shocking really but I am wiling to bet nothing has actually changed at Staffordshire Hospital.
I suspect things are worse, as whenever there is an inquiry into malpractice, the invariable outcome is that the recommendations are for more bureaucracy and management/administrative control; instead of a focus on patient care. The NHS is run in the interests of the NHS. One might almost think that the organisation’s motto is: everything would be wonderful if it were not for the patients and their whining relatives. I suspect lots of people in the NHS are very happy about the current lack of patients as they are able to get on with their real work.
Hi Steve, this is music to my ears. It’s nice to now some people acknowledge the truth about the NHS.
To be fair, my elderly mother was called in for a routine scan at our main hospital last week. (It happens to be a university trust teaching hospital; don’t know if that makes any difference). She’s also been written to a few weeks ago, asking her to ring up for an appointment at her GP’s surgery. She didn’t want to risk it at the time, but now is prepared to, so is planning to ring up for an appointment this week. I will be interested to see if she gets one. (I will be the taxi-driver if she does). Also, her GP rang her up the other week, just to see how she is, which was nice. She’s probably his oldest patient, so he does keep an eye on her. So maybe in this neck of the woods at least, the NHS is kinda sorta creaking back into… Read more »
Hi Mike, it sounds to me that your mother is lucky enough to live possibly in one of the areas that has a local NHS focussed on quality patient care which is very rare. It is good to know though that some elderly people are being treated well.
The GPs around here are still closed as are the dentists and I think it is the same for the majority of the country.
There is the intriguing possibility that exposure to the Euro-American strain of Covid-19 may endow resistance to the more dangerous Wuhan strain. That this may indeed be the case is suggested by the large number of people that appear to be naturally resistant to the virus. These people being resistant due to their previous exposure to the Euro-American strain.
From here: http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1184
More Covid mumbo jumbo…when will it end.
Please provide evidence that there is a ‘more dangerous Wuhan strain’
Roughly,… the difference between the Euro-American strain and the Wuhan strain is that the Euro-American strain carries the four mutations C241T C3037T C14408T and A23403G (as a group). The Wuhan strain doesn’t have these mutations.
Among other things, 291 different NATIVE Icelandic mutations of the virus tell you that strains of Covid-19 have been around for a year or two before Wuhan.
The Euro-American strain is quite contagious, but not particularly dangerous.
The Euro-American strain can be seen to be relatively harmless as it has spread worldwide without being noticed.
The Wuhan strain is more dangerous because it has killed thousands of people.
The proof is in the viral RNA sequences.
“The Wuhan strain is more dangerous because it has killed thousands of people”.
With the assistance of government fiddlin’.
so is that the cellular debris detected in wuhan? sure its not the germ theory making you think it was of any concern to people in healthier environments?
There is no real science behind any of this. Just baseless dogma. Look up the original Chinese studies on The Lancet, and check their references. They didn’t even need to try to fake it that hard.
Jack – I’ve noticed that those of us who had just previously developed psychological and intellectual resistance and (subsequent immunity) to the “Euro-American strain” of “Russiagate” propaganda – were in fact much more likely to have also gained some residual “resistance” and “immunity” to the “Covid-19” propaganda operation.
Up to 60% are thought to be totally resistant to it, because they had colds recently. Covid is a cold virus and you need to be at deaths door to be killed by it.
There’s an intriguing possibility that cats can read others people’s minds and that anal sex prolongs your life.
I had a conversation with the wife the other day…”If only the statue tossers had been left to do their stuff. They and their specious cause would have been discredited. The Government and the Police would have been exposed for their inactivity”.
The ordinary members of the public have been played like a cheap fiddle and now those incensed by these activities are now all “Right Wing Extremists”…
Who didn’t see that coming, I think the Yanks call it a “bait and switch”.
Doing nothing is a sign of weakness. The polarisation is complete and most people are on one side or another. Also the media has far less power than before, as more people see the double standards and propaganda, so its smears are less effective
Giving enough rope to hang someone under provocation is not a sign of weakness…
The statue tossers do not seem to have attracted many older, wiser heads, seems to be largely the “young, dumb and full of …”
A point well made about the media having already lost credibility…
I find all statues, other than mythic ones like Boudicca and her daughters, to be both heros and villains, myopically setimental, propaganda.
You think Boudicca was mythical?
Err no, the statue is.
There is a statue of Boudicca and her daughters in London. There is nothing mythical about it. It exists.
are the terror training networks still recruiting people to scare kids of mother nature with crazed conspiracy theories? there is a killer virus we wil save you. all you need to do is terrorise people into buying our products or else?
“Health–warning. Noun. (plural health warnings) An official edict that a particular substance or activity is dangerous.” We at the point where the British government – and the Crown for that matter – should wear a health warning. What they are doing is clearly harmful to the health of the nation’s citizens. Ad hoc rule by implied contract is very different to the type of government the people think they have. Britain has an unwritten constitution but precedence and rights have been torn up. Australia’s government routinely operates outside the constitution. Australians are trying to do something about it. UK Column represents the first stirrings in the UK. Alex Thomson of Eastern Approaches discusses the source of power of the bureaucrat in command of the UK, Mark Sedwill, as head of the Civil Service and of the Cabinet Office which answers not to Parliament but directly to the… Read more »
maybe it should be lifted to an extreme warning but they should long have worn a health warning. danger pig farmers on the loose. your mortgage may compromise your ethics at the expense of life on earth
Health Warning: In my view. UK Column, as its name hints, is a far-right sympathetic, pro-Brexit, therefore pro-US & a CIA sympathetic disruptor voice. That does not mean that everything they say is false, quite the opposite, like Alex jones they deal in selling the truth in exchange for your loyalty, but their motives and narratives are essentially pro-deep state, pro-US military and pro-neoliberal exploitation, because that is ultimately the powers that underwrites these platforms, not necessarily financially, just ask the US overseas instigator on Europe, Steve Bannon. These voices make it easy to understand who they are by selling the same narrative as Breitbart, Drudge, Alex Jones and David Icke, Nigel Farage, Jordan Peterson, Corbett and many many others and are part of a ‘fifth column’ of US imperialism, selling us false narratives. Their massage is aimed at American advantage. Their aims are to undermining confidence… Read more »
Every news provider on the planet has it’s own particular bias and the UK column is no different.
So lets not hide their agenda.
Nor completely distort it, as you do.
As a conspiracy theorist you take the biscuit! The vast majority pf those opposing the neo-Marxist movement taking over Britain are not right wing nutcases, they are simply moderate people concerned about their future, families, jobs and safety.
Entities such as Uk. Column, Breitbart, Drudge, Alex Jones and David Icke, Nigel Farage, Jordan Peterson, Corbett are not fifth columnists – they (and their contributors) are some of the few brave enough to attempt to save us from a living Hell – and your self-serving obsession with “conspiracy” serves no useful purpose.
“If you are not with us you are against us”.
In other words if you don´t support our Marxist agenda you are a raving fascist!
Marxist agenda
I suspect that you wouldn’t recognize a Marxist agenda, if it bit you in the ass. here’s a hint: identity-politics Wokeism isn’t it.
Good morning snuffleeupagus!
Always look forward to reading your comments.
Learn something every time.
Enjoy your Sunday.
Love and peace. Maria xxx
Come on.. David Icke and Alex Jones definitely are leading people down the garden path. Corbett is a little suspicious but I’m yet to see something that really convinces me he’s not genuine. Andrew Breitbart was murdered so was probably genuine although what’s left of that site certainly isn’t. Farage does speak a lot of sense but is surely a psy op nonetheless. UKColumn may not be perfect but its the best alternative voice we have as far as I can tell.
In your opinion of course … Many people have “accidents” if they don´t heed the warning – David Kelly, Jill Dando and many more unknown to the wider public.
It´s OK (ish) to call the evil hand that guides us a “scumbag” but dig too deep and “it” will come after you! This is why UK Column (and others) should be supported.
Whole heartedly agree with your assessment!
UK Column and their like have all the support they need from the security services who they serve, and the US deep state, they are not vulnerable the people being murdered are those on the left not those on the fascist right.
Jilly, Jilly! There is NO “left” or “fascist right” – both are an illusion choreographed by the forces intent on controlling you.
Labeling these forces as the “deep state or security forces” is hardly adequate to define an apparatus systematized to increase the 75% of the lives the forces already own to 100%.
The force is nebulous – impalpable, insensible and intangible.
The terms “left” and “right” do not define anything except hot air!
I have to agree with you on this 77, left and right are the original divide and rule identity politics trick.
If you understand what they are doing why would you call them an alternative voice, they are the deepest of the establishment voices.
They attack the very institutions of our democracy, which they detest. So what do you think they have in mind to replace your election, your parliament and your politicians……. the ‘trusted’ military?
Have you actually watched their content for more than five minutes?
Yes, but I’m not gullible.
they certainly r nt rushing to tell blacks there is no vitamin d in chicken wings. i would have thought exposing how racist vax cult is would be fun. meat might heal when u have taken every pharma drug under the sun but otherwise its disinfo.
europe was better in the 90s when meat consumption went down. increased carnism has been a disaster in europe as in china. it is exactly what pharma promote. the only thing it has is hormones coz peoples glands r shot. use them dont lose them. slaughter houses n eating abused animals is dark energy we dont need to increase.
If the marxists are taking over the UK they are doing a terrible job of being Marxists, as the rich get astonishingly richer and as the workers are impoverished on a massive scale. And more than ever before, race hate and xenophobia have become government policy.State funding for the unemployed, for the sick for the old and disable is being cut back to the bone, the countries assets are being sold off, not nationalised. The NHS and BBC are in the waiting room of privatisation, and many small companies are being pushed over the edge into bankruptcy by our right wing government for large US corporate aliens like Amazon to mope them up or take their trade. I don’t see much marxism or socialism there, I just see US corporate fascism. What you are defending is neoliberal Corporate fascism, but you don’t seem to understand it, and you want… Read more »
Jilly. You appear to be a young idealist living in an unreal Utopian bubble.
Maybe like me when I was in my 20s.
Now I am 75 and have worked on three different continents to discover that for 90% of the world´s inhabitants life rarely changes – we are stuck with our own versions of happiness and achievement and only good fortune/luck will ever change this.
Keep trying though. You could be the second Messiah!
Try cooling it on the bitterness.
Love and peace Maria
You are out of touch.
Will some one please explain to me what this “FAR RIGHT” is?
Them fuckers “protecting” Churchill’s statue with Nazi salutes.
These ones ? (forward to 4 min-mark)
If you were really a “libertarian” you wouldn’t support the football thugs/Tommy Robinson collective any more than black lives matter.
You’re just another right wing nationalist.
I see you resort to the typical socialist tactic of ad-hom when you fail to provide any facts to support your beliefs.
Did you even look at that link? NO.
Well done for accepting and internalising Guardian type smears against white people, as anyone who resists their subversion is labelled as ‘far right’. Why dont you take the knee and grovel to your masters?
The CIA supplant their patriots ideology into the UK. A war on the left in the UK really ? weird. The CIA fight socialist using this idiots, to protect the wealth and the war machine.
What?
https://youtu.be/L7W6I2Of-7M
Or this?
“I fought against fascism- I fought against Argentina and their nazi government”…. Testosterone excess causes brain damage? Look at those brainless fascist pawns apparently unaware of their condition: Programmed, professional killers thinking they’re “the common folk”.
Its wrong to criticize people for doing at the time what everyone was supporting, its idiotic to criticize Churchill for something everyone at the time agreed with. Those men (whether you agreed or not with the Falklands war) stepped forward & put their lives at risk.
For what its worth i’m against war & in hindsight it wasn’t worth a single life because it was for the benefit of absentee landlords some Argentine & they even had the nerve to claim compensation from the UK after the war.
BUT nobody was calling them fascist pawns when they were doing Thatchers bidding. And although I don’t agree with theirs or yours politics I wouldn’t be so stupid for criticizing them for doing what they thought & was told was right.
Round my way, an Indian restaurant was trashed and a mini market was ransacked. It wasnt the ‘fuckers’ that did it, but the other side which you seem to implicitly support
You don’t think that was just street theatre? Face and Heel? Ludicrous polarised ‘battles’ between two puppets on the left and right hands of whomever stands to gain from fomenting distraction and unrest at this time?
Tommy Robinson is pretty much outed as a fake and funded ID, no?
Yes I do.
With Hitchens, today, lending his helping hand, did you notice? Had his number, even a long time before this:
http://www.frombehindenemylines.org.uk/2020/05/covid-19-hoax-cant-survive-peoples-experience-of-it-anger-must-be-channelled-towards-ending-government-by-hoax/
Lundiel, good explanation!
They are the controlled left, intended to piss off the population and drive up support for the far right.
Have you heard of the communist burning down the Reichstag? Every day the nazis burn down a new one in the UK/US and blame the communists.
I’m well aware of that. It doesn’t follow that I see the football lads as the “real left”, their purpose is to promote a backlash from “the silent majority”.
it used to be, in the Bad Old Days, that the far-right loved the state, and the far-left didn’t. in these more enlightened times, through the magic of neoliberal propaganda, this situation has been completely reversed, and it’s now the far-left that loves the state, whereas the far-right has an increasingly queasy feeling about it. so, in answer to your question, the far-right consists of all those who still stubbornly refuse to believe in the inherent wisdom and benevolence of the Proper Authorities. but fear not, these people will soon be rectified. The voice from the telescreen was still pouring forth its tale of prisoners and booty and slaughter, but the shouting outside had died down a little. The waiters were turning back to their work. One of them approached with the gin bottle. Winston, sitting in a blissful dream, paid no attention as his glass… Read more »
That explains why i changed sides after 1997 & gave up on both in 1998 LOL
No matter how many times I read the book, I always dread that final sentence.
Anything that challenges the right of Israel to commit genocide?
go read a history book.
About ? By What Author? I don’t like fiction.
I only usually read Natural “history” its the only place you’re likely find any truth.
Martin Pugh’s Hurrah for the Blackshirts: Fascists and Fascism in Britain between the Wars is a very good history book.
Hmm i’ll pass, if i’m gonna be reading a novel I want it to be inspiring.
History isn’t a novel.
You know what they say about, what we learn from history!
I don’t read minds. Perhaps you would care to tell me what you have in mind?
Not some one elses thoughts 😉
This is a very confusing response. You said: “You know what they say…” [my emphasis]. The word “they” implies precisely someone else’s thoughts. But you still haven’t told me what you have in mind.
Historians
Are you being deliberately obscure?
History always seems to be written by people who weren’t there, it casts some doubt on the accuracy of detail those documents contain.
If i’m looking for opinions i’ll rely on forming my own on things that matter the present & future.
Of course, history is written by people who weren’t there: that is what makes it reliable. They study the evidence.
Italicized brain vomit.
abuse from an idiot.
Whatever ukcolumnnews represents, it is hardly pro-CIA, pro-Deep State, etc.
Its relentless pursuit of ‘King’ Sedwill, his notorious henchman Andy Pryce and his sinister Integrity Initiative speaks strongly against a right-wing bias.
ukcolumnnews strongly defends Julian Assange, Dr David Noakes, Melanie Shaw and other individuals standing up against State tyranny. It is equally highly critical of Nigel Farage, the White Helmets, the MH17 whitewash and the Skripal circus.
These are hardly ‘right-wing’ causes and are more typical of ‘left-wing’ causes.
Of course, if you are a member of the 77th, or 13th signals, Jilly M, your masters will want to do everything they can to undermine the integrity of ukcolumnnews. It is an indication that ukcolumnnews are right on target in calling out the latest outrageous destruction of the NHS for overtly political purposes.
And highlighting the brave Piers Robinson’s warning that we are descending into an Orwellian dystopia.
you don’t understand; the new, identity-politics compliant definition of “right-wing” is “anybody who opposes unrestricted state power”. anybody who questions official narratives, or at least important ones, is therefore a right-winger, by definition.
These groups are essentially far-right. ask them their views, it won’t take long before they reveal their true beliefs. . Then ask Steve Bannon who he funds.
If I understand you correctly (and I’m prepared to admit that I might not), you seem to be against the lockdown, against the incoming increasingly totalitarian measures, against mask wearing and on and on.
You may not have noticed but most of the people here share all of those views. Yet you seem to want to get bogged down in the weeds regarding which ideology is fucking over which ideology; labelling those with the same views you espouse as far right propagandists etc.
So, either you don’t realise that by going to war with people who share essentially the same views as you (barring a couple of inconsequential details), you are doing the work of the neo-liberal corporate elites who seek to divide us.
Or you do realise and you’re doing it on purpose.
UK Column are just the best at news analysis. A week before the European Referendum in 2016, Mike Robinson said that in their view they thought the Leave vote would win the referendum, but the government and other institutions would do everything they could to subvert that vote as not to carry the mandate through. How right they were. The MSM is so compromised that truthful analysis from them is just impossible, so UKC fills that void Public transport has hardly been discussed due to the multiple crazy things they are orchestrating. The mandatory face muzzle rule due to be implemented tomorrow isnt just about buying time for full on surveillance, humiliating us and maintaining germophobia so we treat each other like lepers, its also about destroying public transport. Jobs are gone/going and people dont want to be intimidated with mandatory muzzles, so passenger numbers will plummet. Transport for… Read more »
“The mandatory face muzzle rule due to be implemented tomorrow”.
Tomorrow being June 15th, the date King John signed Magna Catra. Just a coincidence….
The Shit World Order is a far better name for it, and one that (with your kind permission) I shall henceforth be using.
You are more than welcome. I have two other potential memes:
#LockdownisGenocide
#TheGuardianMustFall
MoH Agree entirely with you (although not always with UK Column).
It is one of the best at news analysis and we watch it three times a week and pay them a generous subscription. Particularly enjoy listening to Alex Thomson and David Scott.
Hated by the BBC and liberal lefties – which adds to its appeal.
Alex Thomson is doing a stream now. David Scott is great and you can see he is barely containing his anger with all this subversion
I really like Mark Anderson and wish he was on the show more. Anderson is the best on Bilderberg and the Global Mayoral initiative. The latter is important for understanding what Sadiq Khan is all about. He may be a loathsome POS but he is playing his role well for his masters, just like Tony Blair, to destabilise London from its ethnic roots
well atleast emails are getting thru. i still think meeting in person is best. that way there is confirmation comunication occured n it cant be detected by the bots. printer, phtocopier, maybe phone. i think all the microwaves make people forget what was said. we need lots of biophotons from fresh herbs 4 example. wild plants is good. farmers market. switching phone n wifi off b4 bed is no sacrifice at all. help your neghbours rest properly n think straight. you might eat meat but it doesnt mean you should reject the idea fruit heals n is ideal 4 cold n flus. dr morse said a few days on fruit clears that corona no problem.
I have to say i’m a little disappointed in off-G lately! You’re missing one of the biggest & most important phases in the coup process. Do you actually think this BLM/Antifa unrest is by accident? Or are you to weary to get involved in such a volatile subject & scratch under the surface of “Black Lives Matter” riots? Increasingly this stuff looks like a cover to abolish traditional local administration eg. Police/mayors/sheriffs with one national ‘service’ to complete the police state & neo-liberal take over, right out of the nazi/stalin playbook. One things for certain the groups that wont benefit from any of these riots or divisions are the impoverished working classes including black communities. The MSM are reporting this like true stooges, far right (read this as traditional values) vs woke left (read this as extremist liberal left)! As a libertarian I find it fascinating… Read more »
There’s that bullshit Stalin and Hitler comparison and here’s someone pretending off guardian hasn’t spoken about this just last week
We have been expressing scepticism about these protests from day one. Where have you been?
Where?
Here!
You have not published one article on these riots, specifically Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ)! I dont blame you for being cautious around the woke racism thing but..
No one cares about Trump, he’s just a distraction. No one should care about statues (blobs of deformed metal on a lump of rock in the shape of some fossils)
Whats really going on is the neo liberal elite slowly but surely putting in place successive steps to initiate a coup. Maybe covid was actually just a diversion a simple stepping stone to setting up a global police network & government take over!
Who knows but there’s obviously bigger stuff going on than old people dying & vaccines! You’ve got stuck on covid & stalled, you’ve taken your eye off the ball.
Its constructive criticism not an attack on your integrity.
left? in america that means the military industrial complex. as far as i remember the left r the ones who promote social interaction n open borders, public transport, free hugs n concerts. the left is basically a minority group of students.
That left is the old right! F^^K knows what happened to the right. The new left are meaningless moronic lemmings.
Handycock faced with more legal problems
https://twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1271726536312438784
“As I write this, there is yet another story in the news of a care home that received a letter from a GP surgery saying a note would be put in the residents’ medical notes stating that, should they have a cardiac arrest, no ambulance would come to help. They would not be resuscitated, and they would not be taken to hospital.”
There can be no doubt that the glorious NHS is complicit in the murder of an as yet unknown number of people … and isn’t the NHS CEO Simon Stevens very quiet ….?
Bob, it is a shameful disgrace to this country, the treatment of the elderly. It is right to call it genocide by the NHS. What right do they have to decide who should receive treatment and who should not? It’s even more serious if the GP surgery put this notice on ALL the residents’ files because, the majority of elderly people are relatively healthy and active.
It should be a national scandal. I am deeply ashamed that there is no dissent to this practice at all.
“Of course can’t be verified..”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the latest limited hangout i.i project.
Gosh isn’t it so sharp and spikey!
Anyone who needs urgent treatment or is unsure – dial 999 and call an ambulance- we still have a remnant of a free NHS at the point of use with dedicated trained and experienced staff.
You will be treated and probably with more time and care than when working at full capacity.
Studies are showing [which ones, where? – ed] that there is NO EVIDENCE for reduced hospital admission s or increase deaths from stroke or heart attack during the epidemic.
So why the promotion of fabricated exaggerations that “CANT BE VERIFIED” in what is certainly a controlled new ‘alternative’ platform?
Because there’s one born every minute and you don’t get an even break!
Studies are showing
— which might be fabricated exaggerations, whose EVIDENCE CAN’T BE VERIFIED, because for some reason, you didn’t bother to provide references.
funny how that works, isn’t it.
I do a lot of my OWN reading unlike you trolls who recite scripts – and all my facts are citeable unlike this story which is PROUD to claim their story can’t be verified. And that O-G reprints it!
Yet YOU want to hold me to a HIGHER standard?
Fucking hilarious 😂 😂😂😂
Ok just for the record here is one citation
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.08.20119636v1
Now get one out of UKC or OG.
Dungroanin, did you actually bother to read the paper or just the title? I ask because the paper makes clear that (1) it is a ridiculously small sample; and (2) even with such limited sampling, it notes minus numbers in all categories.
Hey Dunnycan, you seem to have missed the following caveat:
“This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.”
Tsk, tsk.
Care to cite those studies?
I thought you might appreciate this.
did u switch ure wifi off b4 bed? ure not one of those heartless baby killers spewing out microwaves when ure neighbours r trying to rest?
UK Columns’ news shows on Mon/Weds/Fri, have been an invaluable resource for brilliantly researched info we’ve been sold a lie. The sad thing is we’ve been thru all this b4, this is the third time this Century, seems most ppl have become much more gullible and sheeplike tho, as this reprint of an ’09 article by Michael Chussodovsky shows: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic-manipulating-the-data-to-justify-a-worldwide-public-health-emergency/14901
This isn’t the first time the global puppeteers have used their minions to go for a global reset, they’ve hit the jackpot so far tho and are well into phase 2 of destroying family and society. This cv19 b.s is just as much a lie as their earlier attempts, they’ve managed to destroy the world economy tho. Even if enough ppl wake-up to prevent their total takeover, there’ll be serious grief ahead.
P.S. Don’t 4get it’s Icke/Rose IV tonight, 5pm UK time on London Real =)
Ah – a shill !
Do you also have a board that you wear in the street with a giant finger pointing to the pop -up auctions with the great deals!
of course, the Official Story would never require shills to promote it, because its inherent truthiness should be self-evident to all. that’s why it’s called the Official Story.
Indeed a direction to a website
sellingmarketing get rich quick courses & requires your personal data to watch its video “free” has taken a whole different meaning.Not very objective, Objective, since when has offering up one of ur junk emails been regarded as personal data?
Seriously hope most ppl do have at least 2 or 3 junk emails u don’t use as a real acct, they do help regarding privacy.
If its so anonymous why ask for it?
You honestly think using a junk email protects you? If your on a digital platform you’re vulnerable.
Oops, accidentally upvoted u =) Because they do want to send u mail about some of their services, of course all u need to do is unsubscribe thru your addy.
I’m a very practical person Objective, i use junk mails to prevent my use accts from filling up with rubbish. Also, by having junk mails u never use, u prevent data being collected which can be added to ur profile. I’ve had my junk mails for years, it might not be so easy to open an acct with mainstream mail providers using false info now.
Don’t worry you can zero it out by down voting me 😉
Bless ur heart m8, i ain’t that petty, enjoy the freebie =)
All that’s good for now =)
Cesca. They are a brave bunch at UK Column News… While hated by the BBC (and its loyal followers of neo-liberal/Marxists) it does attempt to steer an impartial and non-aligned course – for example it can be highly scathing about President Trump whilst recognizing his accomplishments (sometimes achieved via “unusual” methods.)
If UK Column were to be nit-picked it is perhaps because some of the “presenters” are rather less than “conventional”. Wow!
You sound a lovely, enlightened soul 77 B-R, they do lean to the right, i lean to the left but that shouldn’t cause division. Good information/discussion etc should be appreciated wherever it comes from, without prejudice. If we allow the puppeteers to foster the division among us they need to reduce us to mere slaves for them, how are we going to stop them?
Love and all that’s good to you n yours =)
Does anyone think the NHS will ever return to its pre-Covid 19 self? I don’t. My doctor’s surgery is still locked and I see no relaxation of rules which appear to be all about limiting patients rather than protecting them.
It all follows a pattern . The withdrawal of services to the public.
Hospitals closed and beds lost over the past 15 years.
Doctors surgeries because they cannot fulfill ther contracts, fire services cut , council services cut , police stations closed , police withdrawn from the streets. I would think some investigation would show more instances . The above are only what one witnesses every day .
The other day we were driving along a fairly busy main road & came across a young dog running lose in & out of traffic. It had no collar & the owner was no where near by to pass it back to. So my wife being the way she is, a soppy idiot with her heart on her sleeve. Walked 3 miles into town with me driving behind. (we had our GSD in the back who wouldn’t have taken kindly to a strange dog jumping in the car, & would have caused chaos). First we went to the vets to see if it was chipped so we could phone the owners but it was closed because of covid. So my wife walked another 2 miles with it to the police station. You cant go into police stations anymore, you have to press a button that directs you to… Read more »
The British people voted for austerity, why are they complaining now? The tories made no secret that is what they were selling in the last election.
Not in Scotland, In Scotland we are dictated to by Mein Führer Sturgeon & her Socialist Nationalist Party with a merged national (state) police FORCE.
That’ll be the national police force coming to England and Wales you’re on about?
Most likely
JillyM. Partly agree partly not. The British people didn’t vote for austerity what they voted for was the result of a relentless, malicious, vicious, vitriolic campaign against Jeremy Corbyn, an honourable, decent, committed politician who deeply cares about the state of the nation. If you talk to people it was this campaign that changed their vote away from Labour to this corrupt bunch of thieving liars. In fact, the most corrupt Government in the country. I have strong suspicions that the election was rigged in many ways, not least the postal votes. The British people are not known as the Sheeples for nothing. They are now so dumbed down by propaganda, fake news, mass hysteria they can’t think for themselves any more and lap it all up. No self respecting Nation would have voted this bunch of charlatans in. The Tories ran the worst election campaign in UK Parliamentary history.… Read more »
Oh such hypocrisy, Lord Watson.
Jo you seem to be ignoring the much more significant reason why Jeremy Corbyn lost the election: the vicious campaign against him conducted by the Labour Party elite.
Steve, you are right of course. I wonder whether that didn’t do more damage than the MSM. If it did, there wasn’t much in it.
I am sure it did far more damage than the corporate media campaign. Labour supporters know that Labour politicians are attacked for defending working class interests. But when Labour politicians are attacking the Labour leader, at best it confuses and demoralises and at worst it persuades. Labour lost many constituencies because of its reversal on respecting the referendum result and its orchestrated campaign against its leader.
I’m not a “dog person”, but I’m even less of a “police person”– so I don’t have a good feeling about the fate of a poor puppy thrust upon unwilling police.
Snap, its my wife who is a dog person, thou my the greatest love & best friend just happens to be another species of the canidae family.
As for future of said puppy, there’s a very good non profit non corporate dog shelter who has a no destroy policy where every stray ends up locally , in any other pre-covid time we would have taken it there ourselves, but its closed to public.
Police are dishonest, violent & corrupt i don’t personally volunteer any interaction with one. But it was better than the animal meeting a grizzly end playing with traffic.
Of course. I didn’t mean to second-guess or criticize the decision to leave the pup with the police as dictated by circumstances. I would’ve done the same, leaving aside the fact that I wouldn’t be inclined to take charge of a stray canine in the first place.
It was a good deed, and let’s hope the good karma resulted in the stray critter living happily ever after.
The British people voted for austerity, why are they complaining now? The tories made no secret that is what they were selling in the last election.
It does indeed follow a pattern. This covid scamdemic has been excuse to cut public services across the board a bit like the black lives matter idiots calling to de-fund the police both funded and controlled by the same billionaire bankers such as Soros who will benefit from this chaos!!
Don´t forget the great philanthropist Dear Old Bill Gates ..
And the 7 billion vaccines he plans to get a slice of!
Without doubt Bill Gates is another one of the criminal gang profitting from this scam. I’d say he’s a frontman though for powerful international banking interests!!
I believe it’s 14 billion vaccine doses.
https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-14-billion-doses-coronavirus-vaccine-may-be-needed-2020-5?r=US&IR=T
Tomorrow, the consultant who did a big op inside my mouth last year, is going to do a follow up – by telephone. I’m already overdue a follow-up x-ray. No mention of that of course. You couldn’t make it up unless you were seriously deranged.
Good luck, and I hope you’re the better for your teleconference. That said, I will tactlessly repeat that I consider “telemedicine”– including “teledentistry”– to be an oxymoron. My inveterate skepticism and cynicism has not been reduced an iota by the flood of kind, concerned e-mails from my primary care physician and various specialists– all of whom insist that they’re still “there for me” and offer telephone and video consultations. Last year, my primary care doctor referred me to a hematologist because of a certain blood count that was marginally below normal range. The hematologist did a blood test, confirmed that I had no symptoms indicating an urgent problem, and advised me to make a follow-up appointment in six months to “keep an eye on it”. Of course, my follow-up appointment was scheduled for a date after the draconian Megadeath Virus of Doom restrictions were subsequently imposed. A staff person telephoned… Read more »
“I’ll let readers imagine satirical versions of conducting a prostate exam by video chat; I presume they provide guidance on how to remove all that Vaseline from one’s smartphone.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you Ort. I had the telephone consultation with the max-fac surgeon following-up a big op on the inside of my mouth last year. He had to ask me when the op was – last July, so yes, the great hole he left in my jaw did heal over eventually, thank you. I should have had a follow-up x-ray back in March. He told me I’m now in the system, so please to present myself sometime for an x-ray, let his department know I’ve been and he’ll do another phone consultation when he has the x-ray results. Now, it became blindingly obvious even before the op last year that, despite all the gee-whiz technology the taxpayer has bought for the NHS, the departments at my local trust do not have a system in place for communicating between departments – hence the request to notify him. The… Read more »
It is an acceleration to the post Brexit trade deal with the US, as many contracts are already signed to private companies in the last couple of months.
Expect to have boat loads of chlorinated chicken, hormone beef, GM everything and a medical insurance setup from 1st Jan 2021 which will legalise the multi tier health care system.
Gedding Done – like turkeys who voted for Xmas.
I’m sorry for saying it again and again Lundiel – but against such mass hypnosis and distraction by the media and trolls – I feel I must.
Have a good Sunday, it looks nice out.
Go veggie, grow your own rice in the bath tub. Free Vitamin C in nettles & the sun a great source of vit D. Look after yourself comrade.
We are all responsible for our own health care now!
Either buy it privately – or eat less, exercise more and trust to luck!
In the real world the NHS was never going to last in an ever increasing population suffering more and more from sugar addiction and mental psychosis.
Wonderful idea … but in the end the costs ran totally out of control!
The costs are manageable as long as pharmaceuticals and equipment are financially regulated. Britain’s biggest employer is a significant part of the economy, If it is privatised, the wealth will go offshore and supply-side economics will be rolled-out across the board. The country as whole would be significantly poore and innovation would be lost.
Lundiel, the NHS pre – covid was still a failing organisation, taking billions of pounds of public money and delivering less and less services and operations. I want it to return to what it was, 70% of the tiers of tiers of management axed, money spent on more clinicians on the front line, a lot more, a 70% increase in bed capacity and early diagnosis and treatment services. A focus on rehabilitation etc. In short I want a value for money, professional service committed to patient treatment and care with highly skilled staff who either work for the NHS solely or who solely do private work but not both. Not a lot to ask for is it?
No, I completely agree.
‘ These personal histories can’t of course, be verified’ For what it’s worth, I can second these histories. Recently I talked with an anesthesiologist who was talking to me about being called ‘a front line worker’ and explained to me its actual meaning. It was: standing in a moon suit all day waiting for Godot (a patient with Covid19 who needs to be intubated or a central venous line). That rarely happened. While at the same time being responsible for cancelling all elective surgeries, including cancer surgery (urgent), because it was too dangerous because of the Covid! And that cancelling of surgery was a full time job! And then all these people who were lauding the bravery of front line personnel, including friends and family. A sickening experience. But at least you were still able to come to work. Now we have these social distance measures in the hospital that… Read more »
Enjoy reading your comments Willem, however have any of your self isolating Administrators come up with any dance routines for the staff? You know, build up team spirit to show we’re all in this together and all that…. Sigh😒
As far as I know, they haven’t Nevertheless, we have been asked by our self isolating administrators to think of something that could be fun to share through video channelling to boost morale. Up till now, nobody could think of something funny… Personally, I am pretty sure that epidemiologists don’t have dancing skills as good as nurses have. Frankly, I don’t know anything that epidemiologists can do (as a group) better than nurses. At my department, the most skeptical person I have met (i.e. the one who is gifted with a scientific mind) is the department’s secretary. She is not trained in epidemiology and perhaps because of that reason is able to see through the bullshit. She also knows from example (her own surroundings) that Covid19 has producers lot of financial misery, which the Truman’s at our department have failed to see. Speaking about the Truman show, there is a… Read more »
Here it is
Until we don’t!
Exactly (and why I consider the Truman show as a great movie)
Me too!
Willem, also, I think this is also Plato’s men in a cave analogy, walking turning the wheel day in day out in the cave until one of them sees the sun and goes out. Or something like that! I’ve forgotten my philosophy studies!
Thanks for this. Have a good week W.
Maybe suggest to the administrator that medics being allowed to do the jobs they were trained to do, without treating patients like lepers, would cheer people up no end.
You can’t verify for the UK.
I have seen a study of hospital admission for heart and stroke patients has shown no reduction.
I can personally verify that a person who was suffering an unhealing ulcer of a leg causing great pain and disability for a year and a half – finally was admitted to the general ‘non-vivid’ ward and has received the treatment they shoul have had over a year ago!
Voila. Actual Verification. Not your double Dutch anecdote.
— no references provided, of course.
it’s funny how anecdotal data only counts as verification when you are the source of it.
Willem, you always talk eminently good sense. Perhaps you’ve missed your vocation, become a renegade medical journalist telling the truth in the fact of lies and propaganda.
These UK gov propaganda goons are *very* low level (and Sedwell and Pryce look as dumb as they are). Intelligence is the one true area where the real players are almost always invisible. Or, to put it another way, the sheeple, even when they ‘think’ they pay attention, only see the very tip of the iceberg. When Germany reunited (and a few months before that moment 99.999% of the sheeple, including *everyone* you ‘think ‘smart’, had claimed it would take many years if not decades to happen), facts about the intelligence operation in east germany became public. The size of the Deep State intelligence machine, and the number of CITIZEN INFORMERS was truly astonishing. Did you know that in the UK, Military Intelligence has its own ‘citizen’ division that is the direct analogue of the ‘territorial army’? Of course not- Brits know next to nothing about how their… Read more »
They’ve even banned an episode of Fawlty Towers. But the main reason I replied is… what do YOU suggest.
People here in Australia and around the World have been out protesting against the lockdowns and 5G and the Fascist Police State.
And the cops show up at these peaceful protests, 6 of them literally jump on one person – mothers with young kids arrested, Piers Corbyn arrested for just standing in Hyde Park, other people thrown to the ground, cops turning up to the homes of people who attended anti lockdown protests up to 11 days later, and issuing fines for not social distancing and demanding to know why they were at those protests. Fascism.
People have been organising groups on line, and yet Facebook have been banning accounts of people in these groups including Admins like confetti at a wedding.
So, again, what are your suggestions Sunset?
Sunset suggests feeling miserable and hopeless while not knowing quite at much as Sunset!
And shill for UKC – the latest shiney new platform for limited hangout and non MSM propaganda channel- getting a regular advertising spot from multiple sources and posters on the hour every hour!
As the work here is done (gedditduhhnnn!) the suckers are directed to new teats.
Lol
I know. That’s why I asked for his suggestions, but suspect he may be in the United States, and therefore fast asleep!
if you r going to do something online id think setting up a website would be the way. why do you think they promoted fb in the first place? hardly anyone even sees peoples posts on such issues. private messages? who knows if they get thru. some people told me they never received my message.
Rachel… as far as computer literacy goes; you are talking to a luddite! I still get mixed up trying to send articles to other people.
And I’ve never posted a link here at OffGuardian either. And, yeah, I know about FB’s origins. Hope your week is good.
They’ve even banned an episode of Fawlty Towers.
For some reason, seemingly inexplicably to do with the fact that John Cleese complained, the episode has now been reinstated but any transmission must be preceded with a ‘warning message’ that some viewers may find the content and language offensive!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53032895
How ridiculous.
I wonder which viewers may find Fawlty Towers offensive. Certainly nobody I know (or would care to know)*.
*Admittedly, that does still leave quite a large number of people unaccounted for, but still …
That is how neo-nazis are born.
the nhs has been a kill machine for decades. just not as overt. otherwise the population would not so easily believe in this virus. course it is not all bad. the pharma admins were probably hoping 4 alot more covid deaths many doctors refused to write down.
Personally ive always avoided hospitals, hate the places its where people go to die & spread disease. Its always been my view most people get better despite profesional medical help. My views aren’t much appreciated by my wife who is a very experienced nurse LOL. I wouldnt let her treat me for a splinter.
BUT i’m not saying modern medicine has no place or doesn’t help. i just don’t trust them to know what they’re doing with their poisons & bizarre contraptions sold to them by big pharma.
I’ve often linked to this site, but in this case, it’s to highlight the sayings towards the bottom of the home page. Not all are witty or funny, but some are:
…etc.
There has been speculation that the intelligence services in at least some Warsaw Pact countries attempted a sort of controlled demolition of their own system in late 1989, but it may have got out of their control. Perhaps they wanted to retain the foundations while demolishing the upper floors.
The newspaper Literaturnaya Gazeta, an intellectual sort of “liberal” newspaper in Soviet times, was in fact under KGB control.
Despite evidence presented on this very page, I’m hanging on to the ever diminishing hope the realm will ride to the rescue.
After all, they have serious form for such behaviour.
Right up until Dunkirk, they and the majority of the nobility were apparently – at the very least – half committed Nazis.
Until they weren’t…. literally, the very next day.
It’s pretty obvious that UK Column are British nationalists and pro- Brexit, and hence profoundly deluded. They do seem to hit the nail on the head as regards this medical fascism takeover but anyone who moans about vandalism of statues of symbols of state power is not exactly a friend of the people.
Thinking ahead, I believe now is the time for us to begin to organize anyone with any welding skills and equipment. When the billionaire oligarchs finally retreat to their well stocked luxury bunkers around the globe – we’ll need local teams which can be quickly dispatched to those locations – whose job it will be to weld the steel bunker doors shut – permanently after the oligarchs shut themselves in.
Humanity can then get on with the important work of trying to create a more humane, equitable and sustainable world in the wake of our current – “rule by the greedy amoral psychopaths” – era of human civilization.
Good call ! The Clarke MIG135TE is on standby …
Might need a bit more gear than that.
What is more likely is that the psychology behind this type of behaviour modification is – change. Fear and crisis has led to this implicit controlled demolition of society at the behest of the puppet masters behind our governments. Not only are more people dying because of lack of appropriate care and treatment, but the workers who are providing these services are ironically putting their own jobs at risk by rendering their roles superfluous and unnecessary. Only following orders is not an answer to this. However it kept Nazi Germany going through a few years of butchery and attempts to create a “Master Race”. Head Dalek Cummings clearly sees himself as beyond following orders. But he may not be the brains behind this. I suspect there are competing power plays going on at the moment one of which is the stripping out of the traditional role of the… Read more »
Freedumb. Escape from the faceless technocrats of Europe to join the facefull technocrats and moneylenders of the US. Good luck.
There is no threat from a made up virus called “sars corona2” and there is no proof of any new disease COVID19 said to be caused by said tooth fairy virus.
Its all propaganda.
Stopping people from getting needed medical care and treatments was another breach of law by the Crown and UN’s shadow govt.