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Can We Talk About JK Rowling?

Rosemary Frei

JK Rowling’s June 10 blog post about the downsides of trans rights activism — including the erosion of the legal definition of sex and its replacement with gender — has been met with outrage by trans activists and with joy by those seeking open dialogue.

Rowling is continuing to speak up despite receiving cancellations, and a torrent of hate and violent threats since entering this fraught arena nearly two years ago.

In her blog post she describes how much is at stake, from freedom of speech to women’s rights.

“We’re living through the most misogynistic period I’ve experienced,” she writes. “… Never have I seen women denigrated and dehumanised to the extent they are now” by people ranging to the sexual predator who’s US president to “the trans activists who declare that TERFs [trans-exclusionary radical feminists] need punching and re-educating,”

Rowling comes across as having great empathy for trans people and deep understanding of the issues, not as being a transphobe.

I’m not transphobic either. And Rowling’s blog entry galvanized me to speak up — because the consequences of not doing so are far more terrifying than the risk of being verbally or physically assaulted.

In fact I believe that COVID-19 and strident trans rights activism are both part of an all-out assault on women’s rights.

The hysteria surrounding COVID-19 is herding us towards compulsory vaccination. It’s adding unprecedented force to the years-long World Health Organization-, Bill Gates- and Big Pharma-backed push to turn public-health officials and physicians into vaxx-aholics. This removes among other things women’s right to determine what gets injected into our bodies and into our children’s bodies.

(A progressive Toronto politician said at a meeting last fall of the city’s board of health, when I and dozens of others spoke against this, that bodily autonomy no longer exists. His reasoning? Pathogens and pollution invade the body from the moment of birth, making bodily autonomy “a false dream.”)

For their part, trans rights activists (TRAs) are attempting to make women believe “that there is no material difference between trans women and themselves,” writes Rowling. In the process, the trans movement is “doing demonstrable harm in seeking to erode ‘woman’ as a political and biological class.”

In her inimitable prose, Rowling says, “It would be so much easier to tweet the approved hashtags – because of course trans rights are human rights and of course trans lives matter – scoop up the woke cookies and bask in a virtue-signalling afterglow. There’s joy, relief and safety in conformity. As Simone de Beauvoir also wrote, ‘… without a doubt it is more comfortable to endure blind bondage than to work for one’s liberation; the dead, too, are better suited to the earth than the living.’”

I know that cocoon of conformity all too well: in the past I’ve marched alongside others chanting slogans such as, “Trans women are women!” I’ve experienced first-hand how easy it is to believe tidy narratives about oppression and injustice without questioning whether one is being used as a pawn.

As a same-sex-attracted woman, activist and investigative journalist, I knew vaguely that there are holes in the TRAs’ narrative.

But I paid scant heed until last fall. That’s when Meghan Murphy was scheduled to speak at a public library in Toronto, Ontario, where I live. Murphy is the founder and editor of Feminist Current and was invited to speak by Radical Feminists Unite.

Toronto’s head librarian, Vickery Bowles, staunchly defended Murphy’s right to speak. This resulted in a furor among TRAs that received media coverage around the world, similar to but not as high-profile as the reaction to Rowling’s writings on the topic.

After quickly looking more into the issue, I decided to speak in favour of Bowles’ stance at a library-board meeting a week before Murphy’s talk.

“In society we see too much narrowing of the debate on too many issues,” I said in my impromptu deputation. “… There should be some room for some thought, and not just closing down and saying, ‘Nobody can question trans rights.’”

My words and those of the few others brave enough to publicly support Bowles and Murphy were met with outraged cries from the dozens of TRAs at the meeting.

The event went ahead seven days later. I didn’t have a ticket to it but went to the library anyway and tried to talk to some of the protesters outside. It didn’t go well. For example, the provincial parliamentarian for my riding was aghast that I was supporting Murphy and called her “a bigot.”

And I had to flee not long after that because the crowd had worked itself into a frenzy and everyone was screaming in unison, “TERFs Go Home!”

Murphy’s talk wasn’t transphobic. But the next afternoon Toronto’s city council passed a motion to review all of the city’s facilities’ room-booking policies in the wake of the “egregious and unacceptable” airing of “harmful transphobic views” at the library the previous evening. I tweeted my dismay.

And freedom of expression is far from the only major issue at play: another is the medicalization of adolescence.

I’m very familiar with the corrupting influence of Big Pharma on the medical establishment because I have an MSc in molecular biology from the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Calgary and was a freelance medical writer and journalist for trade publications for 22 years.

I quit that work four years ago, after getting very tired of being lied to every time I interviewed physicians and medical scientists about their studies and clinical guidelines. They always claimed they were free of bias – but I always detected the influence of the corporate funders.

So it doesn’t surprise me that physicians are being told today that they must accept and affirm the gender identity of children and adolescents who present with gender dysphoria (GD) (defined as marked incongruence between one’s felt gender or gender identity and one’s biological sex) and refer them for diagnosis of GD as quickly as possible.

This is followed routinely by starting these youngsters on puberty blockers, or skipping this step if they’re 16 or older, and then prescribing hormones of the opposite sex (cross-sex hormones). Many youth are then referred for sex-reassignment surgery involving double mastectomies for transboys/men and/or removal and replacement of reproductive organs. (The usual very high bar for allowing removal of healthy tissue and organs has been all but waived for medical trans procedures.)

Non-medical therapies such as exploring the underlying causes and conditions of these young people’s distress and also ‘watching and waiting’ (that is, holding off on irreversible and invasive treatments until the youth have finished adolescence) were the mainstay for children and adolescents until relatively recently. This is because the majority with gender dysphoria shed these symptoms without intervention as they pass through puberty.

But this non-invasive approach is increasingly viewed as unethical and transphobic. In fact there are moves in countries such as the UK and Canada to render it criminal; these moves conflate talk therapy for gender identity with conversion therapy for sexual orientation. And academics or others who question the medical approach and other aspects of the TRA narrative often have their work retracted or significantly altered by scientific journals’ editors.

The medical approach is recommended by the powerful World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH). WPATH’s Standards of Care (SOC) for people who are transsexual, transgender or gender non-conforming, published in 2011, is widely used in the UK, Europe, North America and elsewhere.

WPATH’s SOC is funded by “an anonymous donor” and by the Tawani Foundation. The foundation was created by Jennifer Pritzker, a trans woman. She and other members of her very deep-pocketed and politically-connected family own Squadron Capital, which controls several medical-company-financing and medical-device firms.

Following the money is always instructive. The very rapidly rising rate of medical transitioning – greatly boosted by the controversial new phenomenon of rapid-onset gender dysphoria — means there’s a ballooning market for hormone prescriptions, surgeries and fertility treatments for youth, who become permanent medical patients.

The SOC uses language of equality, tolerance and human rights, making the underlying medicalization of puberty highly palatable. For example, it warns that:

Refusing timely medical interventions for adolescents might prolong gender dysphoria and contribute to an appearance that could provoke abuse and stigmatization. As the level of gender-related abuse is strongly associated with the degree of psychiatric distress during adolescence (Nuttbrock et al., 2010), withholding puberty suppression and subsequent feminizing or masculinizing hormone therapy is not a neutral option for adolescents.
[…]
[H]ormone therapy and surgery have been found to be medically necessary to alleviate gender dysphoria in many people (American Medical Association, 2008; Anton, 2009; World Professional Association for Transgender Health, 2008).

The SOC also deems ‘fully reversible’ the use of puberty blockers and ‘partially reversible’ the use of cross-sex hormones, even though these claims are very disputable and both types of treatment have significant adverse events.

The document includes a list, on page 46, of possible adverse events from these treatments, ranging from weight gain, to “possible destabilization of psychiatric disorders,” to cardiovascular disease.

(Females who take testosterone for any significant period of time are well known to have much higher risk of heart attack and males who are on estrogen for years are at elevated risk of blood clots and strokes. But the SOC doesn’t admit this.)

The SOC mentions a pair of long-term studies that found very elevated rates of suicide and other causes of death in people who underwent gender-reassignment surgery compared to those in the general population – but largely dismisses them and simply says they point to the need for more long-term psychiatric care and studies.

The list of adverse effects includes male sexual dysfunction — but it isn’t discussed anywhere else in the text.

And the list doesn’t include infertility. This is despite the fact that most of the medical treatments in the SOC can render people permanently unable to have children without outside interventions such as in vitro fertilization.

In fact the word ‘infertile’ isn’t mentioned once in the SOC. And ‘infertility’ is only mentioned twice (and neither time is in the context of saying the recommended treatments can cause infertility). The SOC instead simply includes a section on the range of medical options for preserving sperm and eggs before medical treatments proceed.

Many medical associations are following WPATH’s SOC. But at least one analysis points to fatal flaws.

These flaws include recommendations that are completely non-evidence-based and not reviewed for safety or efficacy. Also, the chair of the guidelines committee and several other members having their positions funded by the Tawani Foundation.

Nonetheless, medical treatments for gender identity are widely supported in the mainstream press. This ‘Journalist’s Resource’ article asserts there are very few drawbacks to these invasive surgeries (and at the bottom of the page there’s a note saying the website is funded by grants from various organizations including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation).

WPATH is active in flexing its muscles in other ways. For example, it issued a call in 2015 for legislation to be passed around the world allowing people to switch genders very easily.

And countries are obeying that call – despite the negative implications such as the possibility of violent predators easily gaining access to women’s prisons. Such predators are few in number and are not trans. But they solely seek to victimize women and take advantage of gender-identity legislation to do so. The same goes for the men who self-identify entering women’s and girls’ washrooms and dressing rooms to spy on females or expose themselves for their own sexual pleasure.

In July 2015 the Irish Gender Recognition Act was passed. It allows anyone over 18 to self-declare as a different gender and immediately gain legal recognition for their adopted gender. Scotland’s Gender Recognition Reform Bill is poised to do the same thing.

So were the proposed reforms to the UK’s Gender Recognition Act. However, Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government reportedly backed down a few days ago (the government apparently also has decided to preserve female-only spaces but will ban conversion therapy, which it defines as including non-medical treatments for gender identity).

In addition, several countries allow minors, including those who haven’t yet entered puberty, to receive these treatments without parental consent if they are considered capable of giving informed consent themselves.

This is being challenged in the UK.

And more and more healthcare professionals are pushing back by issuing powerful critiques of this approach because of, among other things, its often-irreversible nature and large number of serious adverse effects. They are proferring other pathways to health for people with gender dysphoria.

In addition, groups like the UK’s Royal College of General Practitioners have called for a more objective examination of the outcomes and unintended consequences of medical transitioning.

“I never forget that inner complexity when I’m creating a fictional character and I certainly never forget it when it comes to trans people. All I’m asking – all I want – is for similar empathy, similar understanding, to be extended to the many millions of women whose sole crime is wanting their concerns to be heard without receiving threats and abuse,” Rowling writes at the end of her blog post.

Count me among those millions. We need calm, objective discussion and evaluation of evidence, just as many of us strive for with COVID-19.

Rosemary Frei has an MSc in molecular biology from the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Calgary and was a freelance medical writer and journalist for 22 years. She is now an independent investigative journalist. You can watch her June 15 interview on The Corbett Report, read her articles on Off-Guardian and follow her on Twitter.

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Sil San
Sil San
Mar 22, 2021 10:48 PM

“In society we see too much narrowing of the debate on too many issues,”

I think is one of the main factors that create divisions and at the same time allow for these agendas tu further advance.

I have heard of a father in Canada that got a restriction order and was prohibited from seeing his daughter (who claimed to be a boy) because he wanted her to wait until she is a little bit older to decide if she really wants to be a man or a woman. He was even told that he is not allowed to use female she/her etc.

The common denominator with this amd compulsory vaccinations is that it is very clear that our children are state’s property…

Noche
Noche
Oct 23, 2020 1:35 AM

My children’s school – a private one – told the parents that if they didn’t allow and encourage their child who wanted to medically transition – the school would expel the other children of that family. One of the children involved is transitioning back to his original sex, now that he has graduated from that school. It is clear that there is a lot of money promoting this agenda, and I thank Rosemary Frei for following it!

Humanimal
Humanimal
Jun 20, 2020 12:23 AM

The hysteria surrounding COVID-19 is herding us towards compulsory vaccination

This removes among other things women’s right to determine what gets injected into our bodies and into our children’s bodies.

This about human rights, not just women’s rights, unless the vaccines are for women only….. So this is another case of gender issues hijacking something a lot bigger. The children belong to no-one and fathes are just as responsible.

The hysteria surrounding COVID-19 is herding us towards compulsory vaccination

This removes among other things women’s right to determine what gets injected into our bodies and into our children’s bodies.

This about human rights, not just women’s rights, unless the vaccines are for women only….. So this is another case of gender issues hijacking something a lot bigger. The children belong to no-one and fathers are just as responsible.
 

Katrina
Katrina
Jun 19, 2020 10:50 PM

If the word ‘woman’ is being decommissioned in favour of the word ‘people’ – e.g. pregnant people, people who menstruate – then transwomen cannot be women. They are people who are transgender.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 20, 2020 8:55 PM
Reply to  Katrina

That’s a good point; it’s funny I haven’t seen anyone bring that up before!

Kes
Kes
Jun 23, 2020 1:32 AM
Reply to  Katrina

A trans woman supporting Rowling on YouTube actually made that point.
 

Grace
Grace
Jun 19, 2020 7:23 PM

I fully support and applaud Rowling on her stance. Natural-born women should not have to be shamed or terrorized into conceding that trans-women are the same as naturally-born women any more than a natural blond should be forced to concede that an artificial blonde is exactly the same. There do not have to be strong feelings, just the admission of reality.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 19, 2020 3:58 PM

This guy is always worth reading:
 
https://guidopreparata.com/ad-triarios-transphobic-bus-power-elite-feminism/
 
Excerpt:
 
 

Stories such as these ….. follow a rigid script. On one side, we have the organizers of the tour. They come to impersonate the token homophobic, transphobic hate-mongering fundamentalist Christians (Catholics, in Spain). On the other side — in this tale of “two Spains,” which do not mix, like agua y aceite—, stand tall Spain’s indigenous shock troopers of “gender” orthodoxy,” who voraciously bit the bait. The transphobic bus has thereupon been ambushed and thwarted at every turn, and acrimoniously booed by these “progressives.” So now they are, once more, at each other’s’ throats and the rest of us are, yet again, “invited” thereby to watch and take sides in this all-important clash on “gender.” As if nothing else mattered.

 

Viv Aldistaw
Viv Aldistaw
Jun 19, 2020 4:32 AM

I’m just going to stamp my feet until everyone acknowledges I have the hardest life of all

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 18, 2020 4:34 PM

So, if I’m seeing things clearly, what DA MASSAS want DUH MASSES to do is: eat bugs instead of cows, rely on pharmaceuticals and/or surgery as the first and last response to all medical issues, demonize heterosexual relationships, stop reproducing, agree to shortened life-spans, view the concept of “the nuclear family” with horror, embrace the communal while denying the individual, celebrate obedience by never questioning authority, honor wealth, abhor the concept of privacy, spy on and denounce one another, adopt functional illiteracy as a virtue, value animals and “nature” more than fellow humans and keep all those apps updated… am I missing anything?

Paolo
Paolo
Jun 18, 2020 8:08 PM

“You shall be like us ! ”
 

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 18, 2020 8:22 PM
Reply to  Paolo

Actually, that’s pretty cool… is that soundtrack by Delia Derbyshire…?

Paolo
Paolo
Jun 18, 2020 10:32 PM

I believe so. Great voice too. But still, i dont fancy talking like that myself.

Humanimal
Humanimal
Jun 20, 2020 12:27 AM

You’re missing and confusing quite a bit.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 20, 2020 8:45 PM
Reply to  Humanimal

A thorough and well-constructed argument: you’ve got yourself another convert.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 18, 2020 3:46 PM

Genetically-determined males: do whatever you prefer, to decorate or transform your own bodies: this is your right! I support you! But, please: come up with a new word/ concept/ label for what it is that you would like to become, with the help of drugs and surgery (or just make-up, or attitude or attitude), because the word WOMAN is taken, already, by WOMEN. You can’t invade the concept. You can’t take over. There are people already there.
 
 
https://berlin8berlin.wordpress.com/2020/06/18/in-the-name-of-wife-daughter-granddaughter-a-few-billion-others/

Omar
Omar
Jun 18, 2020 3:16 PM

In addition, several countries allow minors, including those who haven’t yet entered puberty, to receive these treatments without parental consent if they are considered capable of giving informed consent themselves.”
 
This blasts open the doors for paedophilia. If kids can give informed consent for permanently life altering surgery that sterilises and castrates, then logically they could give informed consent for something much less life altering and physically damaging like having sex.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 19, 2020 2:35 PM
Reply to  Omar

The age of consent rules are arbitrary, inconsistent and make no sense (in the UK). Children cannot, for example, provide informed consent to economic transactions (the age is 18). But children can drive (the age is 17), join the army (at 16 even though child soldiers are illegal in international law). When it comes to medical consent, the age is 16, but the health professionals can make exceptions if they judge the child to be capable of giving informed consent.

Omar Aysha
Omar Aysha
Jun 19, 2020 3:49 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Sounds like the argument some politicians have been making to lower / remove the age of consent for sex, again to appease their paedo friends.
 
All age restrictions are inherently arbitrary to a certain degree, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have them. Sex below 16 is prohibited, the vast majority of people agree with that age limit. While it’s true doctors can do things like prescribing the pill to under 16s either to protect them from underage sex, or because they have extra heavy periods, neither of those are life-altering or permanent.
 
Unlike trans sterilisation surgery and puberty blockers. They permanently alter the body unnaturally. Saying that kids can give informed consent to that, BEFORE puberty will totally open the floodgates to giving consent to lesser things, like sex. It’s not rocket science.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 19, 2020 4:08 PM
Reply to  Omar Aysha

It sounds like you read into my comment that I was arguing for the lowering of the age of consent. I wasn’t. I was arguing that the laws on consent are arbitrary and inconsistent and make no sense.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 21, 2020 1:29 PM
Reply to  Omar

Omar, the whole thing is deeply concerning but where children are concerned even more so.

Omar
Omar
Jun 18, 2020 3:13 PM

“Transitioning” is a myth, a lie that needs removal from the lexicon. It’s not possible to change sex, the tech doesn’t exist. At best you get a weak approximation, with inherent sterility etc. And even if you could change the chromosomes of every cell in the body, you’d still lack the lived experience of growing up in the opposite body, and the world reacting to you as that body.
 
And sex is what people care about. We have sex with people. We suffer sexism. We’re hetero or homo or bi sexual. We feel sexy.
 
Few people care about gender, whatever it means. I don’t care if a woman wears a dress or has long hair, I care that she’s a woman because her body’s female. We use male/ female to denote the sex.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 18, 2020 8:50 PM
Reply to  Omar

And don’t even ask what a “Dilator” is…
 

Transgender dilation

After surgery it’s normal for your body to register your neo vagina as a wound. And just like with piercings, your body will try to heal. Because of this, your neo vagina may start to shrink or develop scar tissue called granulation.

Transgender dilation therapy is an absolute must to keep your neo vagina functional, to minimise scar tissue forming, and to prevent your neo vagina losing depth and width. Usually, MtF transgender patients start using vaginal dilators a few days after surgery and keep using them, to some degree, for the rest of their lives.

Your surgeon will let you know how to safely use a dilator, what size they want you to use and how often you need to dilate to maintain your neo vagina. If they don’t, you should definitely ask.

Omar Aysha
Omar Aysha
Jun 19, 2020 3:52 PM

It really is double speak isn’t it. Your body registers as a wound because it is a bloody wound. Neo vagina my neo arse.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 20, 2020 8:49 PM
Reply to  Omar Aysha

Neo vagina my neo arse.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 20, 2020 9:55 PM

( I meant to add: INDEED! to that. Laugh)

Humanimal
Humanimal
Jun 20, 2020 12:49 AM

Sex change seems like an elaborate justification for self harm. I’m sure the hormones won’t do much good in the long run either. This behaviour is a type of transhumanism which is why it’s being promoted by the technocrats. Under the new religion of Scientism we will “evolve” by artificial means and alter the human body as if it was a disposable toy, a flesh bag that gets in the way of a purer existence and, ultimately, immortality. In a sense it is an outcome of the disconnect from their own body and inner self, a type of madness cultivated by religion and scientism over centuries. The body is evil, it’s a problem, it must be renounced and controlled. A very black and white self image for modern domesticated humanity doesn’t help either. If people are disassociated from their inner masculine/feminine nature, they will seek to redress the balance in… Read more »

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Jun 20, 2020 9:44 PM
Reply to  Humanimal

“This behaviour is a type of transhumanism which is why it’s being promoted by the technocrats.”   I would disagree with you to the extent that the Technocrats (or their Masters) probably don’t have such esoteric long-range plans for us Serfs… beyond reducing our numbers (by, among other techniques, interrupting the heterosexual mating urge, chemically, psychologically or otherwise). Technocratic Futurism, as it impinges on longevity (organ cloning, Cyborg-type enhancements, the quest for a technique for the “uploading” of human consciousness into more durable hardware) will be a matter for the Ruling Classes to deal with. It will be as remote an issue, to however many of us are left by the time the science is feasible, as shopping for yacht-bargains is now.     “Under the new religion of Scientism we will “evolve” by artificial means and alter the human body as if it was a disposable toy, a flesh… Read more »

Gall
Gall
Jun 18, 2020 6:21 AM

Hard to take Rowling seriously but she is entitled to her opinion. Her problem is that she has been swimming with sharks and now her inability to conform to the woke dogma of gender plurality has left a gaping wound. All I can say is bon appetite’

Gall
Gall
Jun 19, 2020 12:29 AM
Reply to  Gall

Must be a lot of Harry Potter fanboys and girls out there who must really love Rowling’s OTO Mysticism. I’m sure Aleister Crowley would be proud.

Humanimal
Humanimal
Jun 20, 2020 12:54 AM
Reply to  Gall

What are you on about?

Reg
Reg
Jun 18, 2020 5:54 AM
Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 18, 2020 6:02 AM
Reply to  Reg

Kathleen Lowrey is not the only one who has lost their jobs over this deranged lunacy.
This is the logical result of extreme narcissism and identity politics. I saw this coming a long time ago. Thanks for the link.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 18, 2020 11:39 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezzah, absolutely. It is deranged lunacy. Is it time to get together a ‘protect heterosexuals’ society! It’s scandalous for people to lose their jobs on such spurious basis. I hope she went to a tribunal and won.
 
How are you anyway/

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 18, 2020 12:24 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Look up Maya Forstater at Women’s Liberation 2020 on YouTube. She lost her job as well because of this madness. Her speech is brilliant, and I support her 100% as well. I’m surprised it’s still on YouTube coz they’re behaving like the Gestapo. They’ve probably been too busy deleting all the Covid19 videos. I’m okay – only 1.5 weeks to go before the mag starts up again, but management are so far gone, Covid Cult Zombies the lot of them – all vendors must complete a Health & Safety course before resuming selling, and wear masks at all times while selling the mag. I sell out in the outer suburbs (equivalent of Kingston Upon Thames or Bromley, but in Melbourne) and nowhere near the Office, my mask will be inside my bag. Been trying to get early release of my Super as lost track of it years ago, moving addresses,… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 18, 2020 6:07 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezzah, I will certainly look up the video. Good idea about the mask though. Don’t wear the bloody thing. Good news about the Super -keep persevering, you’ll get there it, like everything else these days, will just take a bit of a fight and endeavour. Nothing is straight forward. At least, in just over a week’s time, you will get back to selling the mag and some money will be coming in. That will be a weight off your mind anyway.
 
I am cracking on with my writing so am definitely not bored. I’m really enjoying it actually. i think, when I’ve got the book where I want it to be, it requires another two edits if not three, I might have something there.
 
Get your thermals on! Over here, the weather has been great but today its been drizzly rain.

Glenda
Glenda
Jun 19, 2020 6:04 AM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Can I ask what the mag is? Will look out for it… I am in Brisbane. Beautiful weather, come up here Gezzah!

Glenda
Glenda
Jun 19, 2020 8:09 AM
Reply to  Glenda

Watched the Maya Forstater youtube clip: thank you for directing my attention to that – fabulous!

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 19, 2020 1:49 PM
Reply to  Glenda

Hi Glenda,the mag is The Big Issue.

Glenda
Glenda
Jun 21, 2020 5:55 AM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Thanks, know it well. Lovely woman sits outside our local Woollies on a regular basis. Good luck with it x

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 18, 2020 1:00 PM
Reply to  Reg

Yeah but did she also fail to agree they have a Right to get pregnant?

It’s as old as the bearded women at the stunning of the sinner.

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Jun 18, 2020 8:21 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

The Right to have children. Straight from Monty Python’s Life of Brian and the transition to “Loretta” scene. Brilliant and uncannily predictive.

Humanimal
Humanimal
Jun 20, 2020 12:58 AM
Reply to  Reg

These views apparently made students feel “unsafe” and “caused them harm”.

Get ready for much more of this.

Glenda
Glenda
Jun 18, 2020 3:26 AM

How reassuring to hear the voice of reason. Years ago I read ‘Our Stolen Future’ by Dr Theo Colborn, about the effect of PCB’s. Thanks to companies like Monsanto, there are now so many endocrine-disrupting chemicals in the environment I wonder if this is not why there is a seemingly sudden surge of people with gender dysphoria. Obesity also plays a role in disrupting the healthy function of hormones and we have a worryingly high percentage of overweight and obese people, largely because of the uncontrolled proliferation of crap fast food. I saw footage from the 1970’s in the middle of Sydney and there was not one overweight person in the crowds on the streets. We have abrogated personal responsibility for our health to medical science. and this is never more evident in both the effect of COVID on people with co-morbidities and weak immune systems, and the indulgence of… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 18, 2020 11:46 AM
Reply to  Glenda

Glenda,I don’t think Gender Dysmorphia exists really. Some years ago I watched a late night programme about Transgender men. Many of the participants said the reason they wanted t transgender was to have sex with straight men. There is a lot of truth in that. Gender dysmorphia is a social construct quite simply put.

Glenda
Glenda
Jun 19, 2020 2:02 AM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Possibly. But men have been able to openly have sex with other men for a long time without there being such a push towards changing gender, especially in adolescent kids. If testosterone levels are dropping, as has been reported, and infertility is on the rise, it makes sense to me that gender therefore becomes confused.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 21, 2020 1:22 PM
Reply to  Glenda

Hi Glenda, thanks for the reply. I don’t think there is any confusion like I said, I believe it’s a conscious choice people make. However, it’s nice to be able to agree to disagree.

Glenda
Glenda
Jun 22, 2020 12:16 AM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Narcissism partly to blame? Seems rampant these days.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 22, 2020 12:32 PM
Reply to  Glenda

Hi Glenda, i think you might have something there.

Yohannan
Yohannan
Jun 21, 2020 5:54 AM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Some people consider the consciousness and spiritual side of things. Some folks have had nonphysical oriented experiences. Some people have had experiences with things like other lives. Some people believe that sometimes a Consciousness goes from having many lifetimes in a certain gender, and if they decide to have an experience in the other gender for whatever reason, that for a few lifetimes or so, there is a strong call and subconscious memory to the previous gender that they were use to. So if they had been a male many times, but this time around incarnated in a female body, they might feel more like a man within. Either way, whatever the truth or not of the larger reality, it is overly presumptive and arrogant to think that one truly and fully KNOWS what another truly feels and/or is going through, or to knee jerk shoot it down as invalid… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 21, 2020 1:23 PM
Reply to  Yohannan

Yohannon, Thank you for taking the time and trouble to write this detailed reply. I have to say I don’t agree with you but it’s good to have different perspectivs.

Humanimal
Humanimal
Jun 21, 2020 12:28 PM
Reply to  Glenda

Animal studies suggest that when animals are placed under heavy environmental stress such as pollution and overpopulation, they start exhibiting abnormal reproductive behaviour. By abnormal I mean behaviour not otherwise seen and which does not lead to successful reproduction.
I’m not saying here that we should only have sex to reproduce, just observing.
 
 
 

Calamity Jane
Calamity Jane
Jun 17, 2020 9:19 PM

The problem here is what human beings are still getting their sense of Self from( Race, religion, gender, sexual preference, rejection of body’s gender). They are all mis- identifications. You are not a concept. Thinking and saying they ARE the body’s gender or by rejecting the gender of their body(BDD) and wanting the body to be a different sex believing incorrectly that this will fulfill or complete them.   Gender dysphoria is a disease of mind previously labelled as Body dysmorphic disorder it is a mental construct , a misplaced ignorant total identification with the gender of body and then a rejection of sex of body. “Cosmetic surgery and cross-sex hormones can’t change us into the opposite sex. They can only affect appearances. They can stunt or damage some outward expressions of our reproductive organization. But they can’t transform it. They can’t turn us from one sex into the other.”… Read more »

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 6:42 AM
Reply to  Calamity Jane

It seems obvious. How did this get to be “the accepted way”?

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 18, 2020 11:49 AM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

By a sustained propaganda campaigns, the curriculum now promoting this lifestyle instead of simple and pure biology and by politicians and Judges stupid enough to allow it be accepted.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 8:50 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Yes, also by parents cowed into silence by the above and the fear of being an anti-semite, or transphobe, or whoever the latest nazi figures are, being presented for burning at the stake.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 21, 2020 1:20 PM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

Hi Daniel, Yes agreed. I listened to a programme on the radio recently about a married couple the husband of which, after 22 years of marriage decided he wanted to transgender which he did. When interviewed alone his wife was desperately upset and said she would like a relationship with a man. She and her husband still lived in the matrimonial home and he described himself as being a ‘lesbian’ i.e. attracted to women not men. She had little or no say during the interview really but it was clear she was desperately unhappy with the situation. All the time, he kept saying how happy he was and said he still loved his wife. I think she was being emotionally blackmailed by him myself and probably by friends and family as she felt helpless in the situation. For me, he has made his decision, the marriage is a mockery and… Read more »

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 21, 2020 8:09 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Poor lady.. surely Schofield’s wife could afford a new home? I don’t know, there’s more than sex in any relationship but it is all a bit strange.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 22, 2020 12:36 PM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

Hi Daniel, His daughter was interviewed. She said her mother was devastated. After 27 years of marriage to find it had all been a lie. When asked if she would divorce him the daughter said ‘not yet’. I think his wife probably feels she has been run over by an articulated lorry. I suspect she’s got to get through many emotions before she files for divorce especially as he is a TV celebrity. It will be all over the papers.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 22, 2020 5:38 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

I feel sorry for her in her personal hell…..one must use discretion in issues of marriage… none of my business really….nowt so queer as folk.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 17, 2020 5:26 PM

I think Event Covid was a massive Illuminati coverup to prevent a Trans Anschluss at the Tokyo Olympics that was to happen next month.
 
Sporting authorities were at sixes and sevens* how to handle the massed forces of biologically male competitors launching themselves at the women’s events. And in some events, AT the women*.
 
For hundreds of millions of sports fans it was going to be a life-shattering discombobulation. For the international organizations, it was an unwelcome confrontation with the logical consequence of their own policies. Thankfully that’s been put off for a year.
 

 

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 17, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I dunno why the comment apps don’t include a SarcMark ®. Seems that it’s licensed. I didn’t know sarcasm came at a price.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jun 17, 2020 10:06 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Good post … don’t Bogart that (), bro, pass it over

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 18, 2020 11:51 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Hi moneycircus, the solution is quite simple I think transgender men are men not women. They are men biologically and should compete in men’s events. It is not fair to the female athletes to compete against men as there are different levels of strength and other factors. It seems to me to be all staged so that Trans athletes can dominate women’s sports when they are, in fact, not women.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Jun 17, 2020 4:36 PM

If a trans woman marries another woman is she considered a homosexual trans or a heterosexul trans?

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 17, 2020 5:36 PM

Charlotte, who gives a f**k? I’m sure they’ll find some terminology for it. The whole thing has got ridiculous.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Jun 17, 2020 5:41 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

I was being facetious…🤡

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jun 17, 2020 10:08 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

If Olivia Newton John married Elton John, what would she be called?

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Jun 18, 2020 12:52 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

John-John.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 6:45 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

you guys…

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 18, 2020 1:03 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Gold digger?

Viv Aldistaw
Viv Aldistaw
Jun 19, 2020 4:34 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Sandy Beard?

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 18, 2020 11:36 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Charlotte, I know.

Objective
Objective
Jun 18, 2020 12:47 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Humor doesn’t always show up well in the cold light of a comments section, i know to my own regret.
 
Personally i think people can indulge in whatever legal sexual pleasure they desire just save me from the detail, i’ve got no interest where they stick it or have it stuck.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 18, 2020 6:10 PM
Reply to  Objective

Agreed. Stop the propaganda nonsense too. In particular, I think they should stop teaching this crap in schools, let’s call it what it is, social engineering. School is there to teach basic biology. Anything else to do with gender is a societal thing.

Gall
Gall
Jun 19, 2020 12:31 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Seems facetious doesn’t cut it in the presence of Queen Rowling.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 17, 2020 2:34 PM

Did Harry Potter’s worldview help enforce good behavior during Event Covid?   In The Harry Potter Generation: Essays on Growing Up with the Series, edited by Emily Lauer, Balaka Basu, the editors begin by pointing out how Harry Potter is different. If Narnia was fantasy world more real than our own, and Alice was a dreamscape, then Harry Potter brings reality and fantasy together.   “The series encourages us to feel that a vibrant community is waiting in our own world to be discovered, embraced, enhanced and extended. For the Harry Potter generation, the books become a moral, civic and aesthetic guide for interactions in classrooms and political campaigns, on social media and public transportation… the Harry Potter generation recognizes its right alongside Rowling and other figures of authority to extend these stories both textually and in their own lives.”   That’s how Harry Potter readers see the books’ influence.… Read more »

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 17, 2020 3:55 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The generation that grew up reading the Harry Potter books are at most in their early thirties (the first in the series was published in 1997 and it was aimed at ten/eleven year olds, with subsequent books for each succeeding year). That generation simply doesn’t have the influence to determine the societal response to the coronavirus. The generation that exercised that influence grew up long before the Harry Potter books.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 17, 2020 4:28 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Fair point about influence. As for age, I recall a few PotterHeads from around 2000 who were in their mid-to-late 20s… and it’s not uncommon to find reporters reaching for the book to draw real world characterizations: bernie sanders is dumbledore and alexandria ocasio-cortez is harry potter ! https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1234959792256561156
 

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Jun 17, 2020 8:45 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

About 2003, I was briefly a train commuter from Kent to London. One day, there was something different: no noise. Every other commuter (and they are all regulars sitting in the same seats) were engrossed in the latest Harry Potter. I couldn’t believe that so many adults of all ages were suddenly gripped by a children’s book, I was very concerned about society’s infantilism and escapist needs, and formed a revulsion for Harry Potter on the spot: anything so hyped must be bad i.e. product of advertising and achieving a critical mass in group psychology. Nor am I remotely interested in witchcraft nonsense. To my chagrin, my children all went through their own Harry Potter phase; I consoled myself that at least they were developing a taste for reading, and would be able to relate to their peers. I also can’t be arsed with the films…Sorry, JKR. I was living… Read more »

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 6:54 AM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

Were you reading Reginald Perrin at the time?

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Jun 18, 2020 6:58 AM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

Er, no. I have a vague notion of some such TV character, but we never had a TV. So if its a dig, it went completely over my head. Pop-Cultural memes are wasted on me, alas. I was probably reading a History book, because I was studying for a degree at the time.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 8:43 PM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

Wasn’t meant as a dig, please excuse me. I read the books, they involved commutes into London, probably around the time HP books were popular. I found them enjoyable.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 18, 2020 1:29 PM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

Ditto.

I posted my take on it before reading yours, good to see I wasn’t the only one shocked by the almost overnight Body Snatchers conversion of the clerk and and manager classes.

Willem
Willem
Jun 17, 2020 5:03 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I never read Harry Potter, didn’t see the point. And the movies, as they have been endlessly repeated on tv, I never seen more than snippets (the story line didn’t interest me).

I do know that people of my same age, including older people than me, were/are total fans. And I am not that young anymore…

I am more into science fiction than fantasy. Both forms of story telling are a way of escapism. However I see science fiction as a sort of negative picture towards ‘Reality’ while fantasy has nothing related with daily life.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 18, 2020 1:40 PM
Reply to  Willem

L Ron Hubbard and Bradbury were part of the sci-fi angle of propoganda – don’t forget Wells and his Time Machine parable of white supremacy.. many of these were part of the State supported propoganda.

Fantasy does indeed have an absolute connection with daily life – whether it is the inane Mills & Boon romance or the blood and guts procedural and thrillers.

Not many Indy minded writers get enough distribution and promotion of their work.

Douglas Adams was one, Pratchett another till he lost a few marbles, Banks another – all dead now. Except Phillip Pullman who hopefully is not a sell out!

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I knew it was banal and evil when I saw adults queuing to buy the latest release and read it on the train as they commuted to the City to their powerful jobs back in the late 90’s and early noughties – it was all to do with the Blairite/Britpop/MillenniumDome/Cultural Revolution and reprogramming of the masses for the WoT planned for the ensuing generation. These readers were in their 20’s-40’s age group – it was as insane as these who cried about Diana and the suicidal rock stars; even as the older generations fetishised the Royals, the QueenMum especially, a generation similarly conditioned by the Narnia texts. It goes back via the PR gurus that created Maggie to the likes of Tolkien, Wells, Kipling…. to Defoe and before, all the way to the bible as the mythology that brainwashes. Pullman tried a corollary with marginal success due to mainstream resistance… Read more »

Humanimal
Humanimal
Jun 21, 2020 12:43 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Like the Abrahamic religions, Satanism is a rival authority and both must be undermined in the eyes of the intelligence organs.

They are one and the same and are the driving force behind the “intelligence organs”. Judeochristianity is the basis of the so-called secular West’s so-called morality, law and justice; as well as, more indirectly both capitalism and “communism”.
 The common agenda: dehumanisation, land and resource theft, ecocide and genocide enacted by oligarchs under the influence of demons with angelic facades promising them power and immortality. The demons themselves need human fear , it’s their energy source, so they’re more parasitic than predatory. But you don’t even need to believe in that. Even from a non-mystical perspective of human psychology, people have been dehumanised by over 2000 years of false metaphysics and dehumanising messages delivered by the agents of religion followed by scientism.
 
 
 
 

Arby
Arby
Jun 17, 2020 2:25 PM

As if the covid 19 pandemic hoax was enough destruction and evil.
 
I have no use for AK Rowling (Syria propaganda), but his article is important. They are smashing absolutely everything, including the individual, to bits right now because they like playing God and intend to put economies and citizens (the term should just go the way of the dinosaur in covid 1984) back together in ways that will profit them – only. So far, They have not been called to account and that has emboldened them. Keep it up fools!

Arby
Arby
Jun 17, 2020 2:44 PM
Reply to  Arby

“…but his article is important.” should have been “…but this article is important.”

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 17, 2020 3:57 PM
Reply to  Arby

Oh, I had thought you were satirically misgendering her.

Arby
Arby
Jun 18, 2020 2:34 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I wish I had thought of that. 😉

Calamity Jane
Calamity Jane
Jun 17, 2020 8:37 PM
Reply to  Arby

The UN’s trans agenda article isn’t important.
Unless you are asleep its old news.
It shows is the insanity of humanity ,again thats clear.

I. Rose
I. Rose
Jun 17, 2020 1:56 PM

Regardless of Rowling about whom I do not know much, this is a very important conversation to have. What happened to the category ‘woman/women’?
Is it not at the heart of the Patriarchal Order to do away with Women and Nature. Acquire a way to artificial wombs when males can ‘give birth’, replace Nature with Technology
and defeat Death/Time.
A story I tell myself; the female centered civilization came to an end through a shattering natural/cosmic event(s). The traumatized survivors, betrayed by goddesses and nature vowed to rebuild a world independent of Her and Nature.Welcome to trans(sic) humanism.
Within 30 years Feminist, non academic, scholarship has completely been erased & disappeared, once again.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 17, 2020 2:48 PM
Reply to  I. Rose

The notion that patriarchy wants to do away with women is incoherent. Without women (and children) there cannot be any patriarchy.

I. Rose
I. Rose
Jun 18, 2020 11:06 AM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

…”The plastic surgery arm of medicine is staged for an infusion of cash as well as organ transplants, especially womb transplants for men identifying as women who may want future pregnancies. These surgeries are already being practiced on animals and the first successful womb implant from a deceased female donor to another female has already been a success. Biogenetics is poised to be the investment of the future…”

…”Cleveland Clinic conducted the United States’ first uterus transplant.”

https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing- transgender-ideology/ (Moneycircus posed link here)

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 18, 2020 11:14 AM
Reply to  I. Rose

I suspect you think this is a rebuttal of my comment. It isn’t. If women no longer exist, there would be no patriarchy: the existence of women (and children) is fundamental to the existence of patriarchy.

I. Rose
I. Rose
Jun 18, 2020 2:34 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I see your point.
Women will disappear & consequently so will patriarchy & a New World Order wii rise…
Included in “my story” is my understanding that’s it’s an “ error in thinking” (due to trauma) — this striving for a world without Women and Nature (& Time & Death). Otherwise I cannot explain these trends towards the s.c. Trans humanism.
Appreciate your comments.

Humanimal
Humanimal
Jun 21, 2020 1:06 PM
Reply to  I. Rose

It seems more like humanity was invaded by psychic parasites masquerading as God. The males of our species are easier to use for their purposes, which seem to be about feeding off human fear. That’s why they use men or very masculine women to run the human farm.

ajonymous
ajonymous
Jun 17, 2020 1:20 PM

I think this all began back in 1947 when farmers decided to add a shovel or two of female hormones to the feed mix of their heifers/cows to shorten the time before they could breed, and increase yeilds. One consequence was that those girls who drank the milk also entered puberty early usually about 2/3 the age that their mothers did. Since then more and more oestrogens have been introduced into the food chain directly and through leeching from wrappings not to mention untreated hormones in the water derived from increasing use of the ‘pill’ so much so that now even some men have breasts. I have every sympathy for those transformed in the womb by this hormonal excess but find embracing the diversity this has produced somewhat perverse.

Voz a0db
Voz a0db
Jun 17, 2020 1:19 PM

Fun read!
 
I really enjoy articles about Uman Degeneration.
 
A plastic surgery to make believe a male is a female or a female is a male, and the consumption of hormones and other drugs until the day these plasticized hybrid animals die, will never succeed in terms of Balance. And unbalance never allows for happiness to occur.
 
Spending the rest of ones life going against your own DNA is just a sign that the problem is not in the sexual organ but in the cerebral!
 
Here’s a not too bad documentary about this…
 
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R7DXnqkfJw&w=678&h=450%5D
 
The title
I Want My Sex Back. Detransitioned transgender people who regretted changing sex
also misleads about the real problem. Our sex is built into the DNA, so they didn’t actually changed sex, they just screwed their own bodies.

Glenda
Glenda
Jun 18, 2020 3:38 AM
Reply to  Voz a0db

I wonder what the cost is to the health system? People who get cancer in the U.S. go bankrupt getting treatment. Who pays for all this gender back and forth?

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 1:08 PM

The only thing you need to know about transgender activism, their goal is affirmation, they need everyone to agree with their view of the world to make their world real. There can be no appeasing the lobbyists when they’ve reached that goal they will seek another.   I am libertarian minded, i will repeat i have no issue with what consenting adults do in the privacy of there own home its no one elses business. A very small minority of people genuinely suffer “gender dysphoria”. They deserve sympathy & compassion to over come their mental health issues. Many transgender are just perverts! Middle aged men coming out to realize sexual fantasies, but there is also a growing number of trans people because of the trend in gender identity, its a political movement nothing to do with mental health, inequality or sexual perversion.   Gay rights started off the same way… Read more »

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 6:59 AM
Reply to  Objective

I think you’re on to something there. I find the ethnicity question in surveys uncomfortable, and have done for some time, it’s best left unanswered. Same goes for all the rest of it.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jun 17, 2020 11:40 AM

Very soon, trans people will be able to join the rest of us in having no rights (unless people wake the FUCK up, that is).

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 12:36 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

A most excellent and astute observation Gwyn

Paolo
Paolo
Jun 17, 2020 7:10 PM
Reply to  Objective

Yep, and then the illuminati press will assist us in where to point fingers so we can end up in some tribal civil war whilst those with the capital watch it all from afar.
 
Gates, Epstein, Weinstein, Madoff etc etc……
Does Satan have a penthouse in Manhattan by any chance?

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 7:00 AM
Reply to  Paolo

First Manhattan, then New York.

lowle-yarrow
lowle-yarrow
Jun 18, 2020 11:46 AM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

Isn’t it ‘then Berlin’?

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 8:46 PM
Reply to  lowle-yarrow

I can’t remember. Check the song.

lowle-yarrow
lowle-yarrow
Jun 18, 2020 9:07 PM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

I was alluding to Leonard Cohen’s song.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 9:13 PM
Reply to  lowle-yarrow

Yes, that’s what I was referring to. I just don’t remember it that well. I did listen to “Songs from a room” earlier, and there was a line: “even damnation is poisoned with rainbows” which resonated with me.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 9:16 PM
Reply to  lowle-yarrow

..not to mention the bank.

Blubber
Blubber
Jun 20, 2020 9:37 AM
Reply to  Gwyn

Weren’t gays rights fought for in the not too distant past but now, if you’re a young man who fancies men you’re ushered down the route of ‘you must therefore really identify as a woman so quick, have the op’ – If you don’t have the op you must be transphobic? Power crazed opportunists desperate for full social control will keep creating new targets/‘marks’ – until everyone feels too isolated to defend themselves.
Brexit was made into a story of young remainers v old leavers and white leavers v everyone else. C19 is a story of germ ridden young people infecting vulnerable others and fear of infectious ‘others’

As economic inequality increases and the pool of those effected becomes more diverse, the techniques to manipulate and divide the ‘have nots’ will have to become ever more extreme in order to mask what’s really going on.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 17, 2020 11:14 AM

Woman noun adult human female.
 
Trans activism is yet one more manifestation of the contemporary madness that asserts feelings trump facts. And, let there be no doubt, gender is a fact. It is a social fact. Like any social fact, it cannot be changed by individual whim, desire or commitment. Those who pretend otherwise are behaving as irrationally as someone claiming that King Canute could stop the tides by mere decree.
 
https://viewsandstories.blogspot.com/2019/09/gender-is-social-fact.html

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 12:39 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Its a trend it was invented by academics, so it can be destroyed by academics. It wont but, a fact is something tangible & real! in the human sphere of idiocy facts are so often confused with fiction.
 
This is what happens when you distance yourself from natural process, be sure the final judge is always nature! You may think we are winning now but the games not over.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 17, 2020 12:52 PM
Reply to  Objective

There a many facts that are not tangible. Money, for example, is not tangible. If I look at a five pound note, for instance, it clearly says that the Bank of England will pay the bearer on demand the sum of five pounds, which clearly implies that the note is not money. Yet if you loaned me a five pound note, you would know as a matter of fact that I owed you five pounds.
 
By the way, as a historical footnote: a pound is a pound (ie, just less than half a kilogram) of pure silver.

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 1:13 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Absoloutely money is a fiction! Debt is just history, yet we devote our lives to that fiction & claim we can change history by paying off the debt! We all know by now the monetary system is giant pyramid scheme you have to borrow more to pay off the debt. WHAT?
 
See how it works? If you belive its real, if you deny its not. Politics! based on beliefs not facts. A fact is if there nothing to eat you will starve, try eating gold, silver or paper money & dont even try with digital currency thats really dangerous.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 1:52 PM
Reply to  Objective

Another muddle-head. Confusing currency with money.   With silver and gold (money), you are essentially bartering; there is no 3rd party involvement, no politician, no banker. There is no need to ‘eat gold’ or any such nonsense.   People today, after over a century of currency indoctrination, have no idea what money is.   This was planned.   In 1988 the Economist magazine (part owned by the Rothschild family) published on its front page a phoenix with a gold coin rising from the burning ashes of the currencies; the title was “Get ready for a world currency“. We are now over 30 years from the publication of the article.    China has now been declared to be the economic leader of the world and recently the British studio Chetwoods unveiled the plan to build the twin towers of the Phoenix in the capital of China’s Hubei province    (Hubei’s capital… Read more »

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 2:33 PM
Reply to  breweriana

i see we are going to have to go back to basics to highlight the mistakes in your indoctrination.   What are the fundamental necessities of life?     Food Shelter Medical care   You don’t need money to eat! it helps in the modern society. But you can grow/catch provide your own food.   You can very effectively & easily provide your own shelter from natural resources. only legislation (others telling you, you cant) prevents it.   Nature provides many effective treatments & remedies for good health. Good diet is just one method. We have managed to increase our numbers significantly since our first venture out of Africa! Without money, law or artificial medicine.   You could barter your skills if you are lacking in any of the above requirements for the benefit of others basic skills.   I own gold because of its value to others, it has… Read more »

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 7:43 AM
Reply to  Objective

A good way to enjoy oneself is to watch Gainsbourg burning money on French TV. Courtesy of the time machine. It’s great.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 1:44 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Money, for example, is not tangible.”
You mistake currency for money.
 
Money is definitely tangible.
 
“What, then, is money?”
(A question asked in 1913 at an enquiry in the US.)
 
“Money? Money is Gold, and nothing else.”
J. P. Morgan.
 
Can’t get more tangible than that.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 17, 2020 1:55 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Gold isn’t money. Morgan was a finance capitalist and he certainly knew that gold isn’t money. Ninety-odd percent of all of the money in circulation at any one time is made, out of nothing, by finance capitalists. Money is a social fact. It is not a fact of nature.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 2:34 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Gold isn’t money.”
 
Well post all you have to me, with thanks, and I’ll give you paper currency in return – deal?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 17, 2020 2:38 PM
Reply to  breweriana

You do realise that response is not even an argument?

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 2:47 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

You do realise that response is not even an argument?”
Nor is that!

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 2:41 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

“Morgan was a finance capitalist and he certainly knew that gold isn’t money.”   Well, let’s read what the man said:   “JP Morgan’s words about credit in his 1912 testimony, however, are not nearly as famous as his words about money and gold: Q: But the basis of banking is credit, is it not? JPM: Not always. That is an evidence of the banking, but it is not the money itself. Money is gold, nothing else. Interestingly, we see here that JP Morgan makes a clear distinction between money and credit. Gold, unlike credit, is not dependent on a third party “coming through”. Gold is a physical good, while credit is essentially a promise. Gold can never default, but credit is only as good as the character of the borrower. That’s why Morgan added: “…and nothing else.” All other assets in the banking system at the time—including dollar bills—were forms of… Read more »

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  breweriana

why do we care what JP Morgan thinks?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 18, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Money is as a matter of fact, whether it takes the form of gold or currency or sea shells, a store of value and a medium of exchange. These two characteristics demonstrate beyond any reasonable dispute that money is a social fact, for it (whatever form it might take) can only have these qualities by virtue of the fact that people collectively believe it to have these qualities. Economists refer to this as confidence. If confidence in gold evaporated, gold would be worthless; it could not be used to store value or be used for exchange; the same applies in exactly the same way to currencies.

paul
paul
Jun 19, 2020 8:29 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Yes, gold is completely pointless. I will take it off your hands free of charge.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 20, 2020 12:51 PM
Reply to  paul

Either you didn’t understand or you are being gratuitously sarcastic. It can be difficult to tell just by the words on the screen.

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Show me the money?
 
Money is a control tool! Of the elite.
 
You can live without “money” if they stopped controlling us.
 
Shake off your indoctrination brew or are you to old to change?

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Jun 17, 2020 10:31 AM

I never engage in these type of discussions any more. It’s pointless unless we identify exactly who is pushing anti-Logos degeneracy on our society. All talk is wind unless you’re going after who its coming from.

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 12:42 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

The thing is politics is like the wind it often changes direction & the more people that blow the greater the force!

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Jun 17, 2020 10:11 AM

In the words of Germaine Greer “a woman is not just a man without a dick”. She doesn’t buy the trans-gender arguments either. You don’t hear much about her anymore on the MSM. If gender is all in the mind it can’t be assigned to a particular body type, so what would be the point of altering the body to make it match the gender in the mind? There is a Southpark episode in moking sex change surgery but it is the only one you can’t see in UK and Ireland, for ‘copyright’ reasons. In it a man is inspired by his son’s sex change operation to have trans-species surgery to turn himself into the dolphin he has always felt himself to be. When someone points out that he is not a dolphin but just a man with a fin on his back made from some other part of his… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jun 17, 2020 10:46 AM

That episode’s available on Amazon Prime. The only ones that aren’t available are called 200 and 201 (the ones which make reference to Muhammad, as you probably know).
 
I wasn’t aware until just now of the whole absurd controversy (including threats of retribution against Trey Parker and Matt Stone) generated by those episodes. I might have to buy the DVD in order to see them…

gordon
gordon
Jun 17, 2020 11:02 AM

if the germ theory is a lie
why not germaine
do you not see
what if germaine was a man
 
 
ohh just forget it

Blubber
Blubber
Jun 20, 2020 9:42 AM

“If gender is all in the mind it can’t be assigned to a particular body type, so what would be the point of altering the body to make it match the gender in the mind?“ Excellent point. I think Posey Parker has some interesting theories on the reasons for surgery.

Tom
Tom
Jun 17, 2020 10:10 AM

Rowling was a key player in the ‘Corbyn anti Semitic’ assassination. No time for her whatsoever.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Jun 17, 2020 11:46 AM
Reply to  Tom

Exactly. The good news here is that liberals are now eating their own.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 17, 2020 4:01 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

The so called liberals are anything but liberal.

MiriamW
MiriamW
Jun 17, 2020 12:07 PM
Reply to  Tom

Too true. However, this does not necessarily negate what she has to say on this issue. It’s the argument, not the person (within reason!) That is why we regularly follow Toby Young’s ‘Lockdown Sceptics’, one of the few other voices of sanity at the moment. We disagree with just about everything Young seems to stand for, especially climate-change denial and free schools but desperate times seem to call for strange bedfellows.
 
I am reminded that one of the most stalwart supporters of our local pro-Palestine group back in the day was UKIP (!)

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jun 18, 2020 9:19 PM
Reply to  Tom

I get that but credit where it’s due. Where is Corbyn now? What’s he saying?

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 17, 2020 9:15 AM

The prefix ‘trans’ has taken on increasingly sinister undertones lately.   Is trans-genderism merely softening us up for trans-humanism? An attempt to blur our sense of identity (backed up by pressure groups funded by billionaires and legislated by tame politicians) to the point where confusion reigns, thereby making the next step to networked cyborgs less shocking?   Are they both means to an end – steps in a process? Will we (as a species) ultimately be uploading our consciousnesses into some sort of mainframe environment?   As with a lot of ideas recently, this is not one that I ever thought would be worthy of serious consideration. Maybe it still isn’t. Maybe it’s all science fiction. That’s the problem though these days – where is the line between science fiction and science fact?   I do feel faintly self-conscious writing this. I have to wonder whether I’ve watched too many… Read more »

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Jun 17, 2020 11:48 AM
Reply to  Philippe

Or maybe the elites will downloading the mainframe’s ‘consciousness’ into our heads via their 5G-vaccine-nanochips injected into us.

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 17, 2020 12:24 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

Good point.
 
I guess we’ll find out soon enough. Or at least those they manage to vaccinate will. I’m hoping that won’t include me, but it will depend upon how determined they are and the doggedness with which they pursue their agenda on an individual level.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 17, 2020 4:56 PM
Reply to  Philippe

I suppose that so long as you don’t want to work, go to school or university or travel abroad, you may escape the nazi vaccine.
 
It may also mean you can’t get regular medical or dental treatment, and maybe, if you are unlucky enough to have an accident and be taken to A&E, you’ll get an automatic vaccine when unconscious or not paying attention.

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 17, 2020 5:36 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

You are of course correct in your assessment of the scenario.

I am giving it lots of thought at the moment, up to and including moving somewhere warmer and less Soviet, hopefully with at least a percentage of our planned community.

For now, I’m monitoring and planning. There may be a way around the problem but probably best not to discuss it on here.

IridescentAnaconda
IridescentAnaconda
Jun 17, 2020 11:54 AM
Reply to  Philippe

You are not the only person who has linked the transgender phenomenon with transhumanism. Google “Jasun Horsley transgender”.

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 17, 2020 12:27 PM

I’ve done as you suggested and he appears to be very vocal on the subject. I shall peruse the links. Thanks for the heads up.

AMR
AMR
Jun 19, 2020 10:46 PM
Reply to  Philippe

I’m so very sad and sorry that you’re right. In fact, you’re so right that I had to wonder whether you know more than you want to say on these comments!   Not only do I personally agree with you that ‘trans’ is introducing transhumanism (as well as in simple ways such as the new biohazard ‘safe’ hairstyle for both men and women, short and simple, and the banning and blocking of those things that have almost defined ‘human’ for thousands of years, such as drinks and chats with friends, singing, dancing, weddings, funerals, and houses of worship) but the World Economic Forum basically said this is the future they have planned (see link below).   I too have watched too many sci-fi films and read too many sci-fi books. I regret it now. I see Skynet coming (actually, it’s being constructed now, and made great strides during lockdown) in… Read more »

AMR
AMR
Jun 19, 2020 10:51 PM
Reply to  AMR

 
 

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 20, 2020 12:04 PM
Reply to  AMR

Thanks for the link. I had seen some of that previously on another video posted by a commentor on this site. It’s quite blatant, although at the time, it did not appear as though the mechanisms were in place for them to achieve their objectives. Fast forward to know and the ducks seem to be well and truly lined up.   I don’t have any special knowledge whatsoever. It would appear that there are quite a few people making the same connection between trans-genderism and trans-humanism. It’s the blurring of previously fixed distinctions, alongside the open admission of a plan to merge humans and technology, alongside the availability of technology by which to achieve that, that indicates direction of travel.   I started reading science fiction when I was a child (one of my dad’s library books had a picture of a spaceship on the cover – what small boy… Read more »

AMR
AMR
Jun 19, 2020 11:04 PM
Reply to  Philippe

I posted a link for you, but it turned into something else – a link I don’t know and haven’t watched. It was supposed to be The World Economic Forum’s video What is the Fourth Industrial Revolution, on the WEF’s own YT site. Here is a link to a commentary on that video (starts around 11.44), which will hopefully work:


 

martin
martin
Jun 17, 2020 6:08 AM

If you identify as a woman, and ‘woman’ is not defined by biological sex, what do you identify with? ‘Woman’ is then a social idea or construct. Yes of course you are told, it has always been like that.  But then why the desire or need to imitate biological sex with drugs and surgery, ie if ‘woman’ is not biological sex?  
Confused
 

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 17, 2020 10:50 AM
Reply to  martin

I don’t think that you’re the one who is confused.

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 1:19 PM
Reply to  martin

If i may i can help you with your confusion, just don’t accept the term gender, I only accept there are 2 sexes! End of debate.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jun 17, 2020 5:02 AM

The hysteria surrounding COVID-19 is herding us towards compulsory vaccination.

 
As a molecular biologist, Rosemary, I’m curious to know where you see evidence of SARS-COV-2 being isolated and of the presence of COVID-19 at all.
 
The paper linked to below, for example, does not reference how the alleged virus from the “German traveller” was isolated which, to a layperson at least, indicates that there is no evidence of the alleged virus being isolated regardless of all its alleged manipulations post German traveller.
 
Comparative pathogenesis of COVID-19, MERS and SARS in a non-human primate model.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6494/1012
 
 

Doug Stillborn
Doug Stillborn
Jun 17, 2020 4:55 AM

Aparently a sexual predator is anyone who talks to a girl with hopes of having sex with her.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jun 17, 2020 9:01 AM
Reply to  Doug Stillborn

Maybe you should focus on women then – you know adult female humans – and leave ‘girls’ to play with ‘boys’.

David F
David F
Jun 17, 2020 12:20 PM

OffG please don’t go down this route. We already have the Guardian to police perfectly harmless words.

martin
martin
Jun 17, 2020 12:25 PM

Sounds like a sexual predator. Hopes of ‘going out’ with the girl would be OK, have ‘girlfriend’ and ‘boyfriend’ been cancelled?

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 2:00 PM

And you know Doug is NOT a ‘boy’ because…
 
Presume, presume, presume.
 
This site gets more weird by the day.

Antonym
Antonym
Jun 17, 2020 3:52 AM

This whole trans game looks like another Soros’ paid destroy the “evil” West plot. Unlimited freedom to make the dumbest mistakes, including self harm.
 
Nobody can’t manage this in China – zero chance.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 17, 2020 7:37 AM
Reply to  Antonym

The Billionaires Behind the LGBT Movement by Jennifer Bilek, First Things, Jan 2020
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2020/01/the-billionaires-behind-the-lgbt-movement
 
Who Are the Rich, White Men Institutionalizing Transgender Ideology? by Jennifer Bilek, The Federalist, Feb 2018
https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/
 
Which Chicago Billionaire is Giving Big for Transgender Studies by Alyssa Ochs, Inside Philanthropy, Jan 2016
https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/lgbt/2016/1/20/which-chicago-billionaire-is-giving-big-for-transgender-stud.html

Samsara
Samsara
Jun 17, 2020 9:28 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Great links! Thank you.
In the 1990’s i lived and worked worked in the Brazilian Amazon. I will never forget a conversation with a Shaman from the Rio Negro, who said ‘end times’ will be nigh when men become women and women men. A corruption of the heart of natures intricate and unfathomable design.
I wonder also about the role of all the endocrine modulating chemicals that are infusing our water and bodies.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 17, 2020 2:56 AM

100+ Comments and a feature article and don’t see a single mention of her Harry Potter series.
 
How has the parallel been ignored that a fiction author famous for writing about a bunch of children in a magical world is again writing about a bunch of children in a magical world?
 

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 17, 2020 7:32 AM
Reply to  WorldParole

This guy is pretty spot on about Harry Potter:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMjrXRgu8IU
 

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 17, 2020 12:56 AM

Thats right love, the biggest problem in our society is powerless Trans people, and their way of life, not rogue out of touch billionaires (you) telling us how we should live our lives and encouraging the fascist to hate on weak and venerable trans people.

RobG
RobG
Jun 17, 2020 1:26 AM
Reply to  Harvey

Yes, I’m really worried about the trans people…
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDKyj35ew0E
 
Just like I am worried about the black people… baa, baa.
 
Just like I’m worried about the Frankenstein flu… baa baa… and will willingly walk into dystopia, despite the fact that I no longer have any employment and can no longer pay rent/mortgage and me and my family will shortly be starving in a cardboard box… baa, baa.
 
But we will still crawl out of our cardboard box each Thursday evening to clap for the NHS and our wonderful government.
 
Baa, baa…

Jabulon
Jabulon
Jun 17, 2020 9:20 AM
Reply to  Harvey

The thing is, the people telling us how we should live our lives are those calling for the rights of parents to be taken away, to choose whether their own children should receive non-urgent medical treatment or not. They are also telling us what we can and can’t say, opening the door to a whirlwind of potential for authoritarianism.
 
And they are not just telling us, they are threatening us with the law.

HarveyLong
HarveyLong
Jun 17, 2020 10:12 AM
Reply to  Jabulon

Have these people told you your children must change their gender? please share.

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  HarveyLong

You seem particularly keyed up on trans rights activism. So maybe you can tell us all what rights trans people want they don’t already have?

Reg
Reg
Jun 17, 2020 12:45 AM

Do you know that the Wachowski brothers – they made the Matrix movies – are now the Wachowski sisters? Both of them. Whatever might be the psychological causes of all this, to me it’s blazingly clear that the West has been destroyed as a society. It’s a rot that’s eaten it away from within. Just look at what gets people worked up. No one talks about creating an environment healthy for all living creatures to function in. But then when you have a caste system where those at the top supply us with the images that poison our minds, you can’t really expect to live conflict-free.

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 17, 2020 1:17 AM
Reply to  Reg

The rot in society is coming from people like you, who think you can, scare, threaten, intimidate and dictated to the weak and powerless members of our society, who are working through issues you are a long way from ever understanding with your limited intelligence and bigotry. You are the problem not them.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 17, 2020 2:00 AM
Reply to  Harvey

sure, everybody knows how weak and powerless Hollywood movie directors are.

Reg
Reg
Jun 17, 2020 2:13 AM
Reply to  Harvey

Piss off, Harvey.

VainSaints
VainSaints
Jun 17, 2020 5:35 AM
Reply to  Harvey

Please Mr. Weinstein. Don’t you have a prison sentence to serve out?

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Jun 17, 2020 10:42 AM
Reply to  Reg

Attention seeking has never been so blatant or obvious or destructive.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Jun 17, 2020 12:45 AM

Those involved in the LGBTQ+ nonsense are being used for political purposes and power. They can pretend all they want but they shouldn’t expect others to. Some of us like reality and nature the way it is. The saddest part is that intelligent people in gov’t have been fooled, or worse, into thinking that enforcing a topsy-turvy world would be good for society. Intolerance is intolerant and should never be allowed to stand. The high ground for which is truth. This truth is born from fact and is undeniable. The differences and qualities between the sexes are fact and have been well defined. Anything else is a fetish and/or a ‘progressive’ lifestyle choice. Make way for the LGBTQ+ Olympics? that is after female sport is decimated by transgender men applying their new found rights over and above their female competitors. Let’s hope JK Rowling sticks to her guns. She still… Read more »

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 17, 2020 12:51 AM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

Stupid fascist homophobe.

Stewart
Stewart
Jun 17, 2020 10:19 AM
Reply to  Harvey

What does transgenderism have to do with sexual orientation?
Nothing.

“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Jun 17, 2020 10:25 AM
Reply to  Harvey

A typical response from a useful idiot with a hive mind and a herd mentality. Stay in the herd where it is idiot safe for dummies and where one can spout bullshit all day and get applause from other idiots who are just as stupid.
Out here in the real world there are people who do all the thinking and don’t get scammed into believing complete nonsense.

The LBGTQ+ movement is a cult for hive minds and the self obsessed, just like MMGW.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 17, 2020 5:09 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

I was following the Labour Leadership saga reasonably closely, and I noticed that all candidates (no doubt from genuine conviction in at least some cases) were at pains to make it known that they were fully signed up to the LGBTQ+ agenda.
 
(and of course to that other agenda which it is not wise to talk about too much these days).

Reg
Reg
Jun 17, 2020 12:29 AM

The sexual predator who’s US president . . .” I trust we’re talking about the paedophile Bill Clinton?

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 17, 2020 1:21 AM
Reply to  Reg

Everyone is a ‘paedophile’ to you, working some issues out are you ?

Reg
Reg
Jun 17, 2020 2:15 AM
Reply to  Harvey

Ah, a Clinton fan, are we? Good, I like to rile you people up.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Jun 17, 2020 12:34 PM
Reply to  Reg

I know. It’s amazing how short liberal memories are, isn’t it? Twenty-two years ago, it was ‘Move on, dot-org!’ Now suddenly, their battle-cry is ‘Impeach now!’

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 17, 2020 12:05 AM

Fake man clit is shit.

Takes a man to be a real woman.

A pathologist doing a post mortem isn’t going to say this body is not a gender confused male or female.

It’s just a crap brain confused after wanking too much to pop music videos and the soy lattes.

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 17, 2020 1:00 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

You like picking on the venerable and weak do you, kicking them when they are down then their lives are bad enough already, joining the fascists in attacking their lives. pathetic you should be ashamed of yourself.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 17, 2020 11:47 AM
Reply to  Harvey

I agree 100% with JK Rowling, Rosemary Frei, Germaine Greer and others.
The censoring, the demonising, that people are losing their jobs, venues being pressured into pulling the pin on feminist speakers, rowdy protests at venues, on and on.
There’s a word the TRA’s are engaging in.
That word is called Fascism.
No, it’s you who should be ashamed. You’re deliberately denying other people their right to free speech. And I’ve had an absolute gutsfull of this rancid, narcissistic infantile crap known as ‘Identity Politics’.
Oh, and I say that as a gay man. So that must make me a ‘fascist homophobe’ as well then. Sweetie.

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 1:30 PM
Reply to  Harvey

You’ve got so boring i’ve even stopped down voting you now.

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 17, 2020 12:04 AM

Multiple Scientists: C0R0NAVlRUS Altered in Lab to Better Attach to Humans

RobG
RobG
Jun 17, 2020 2:09 AM
Reply to  Harvey

Robert Palmer’s original song was much better, many people would say… 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE
 

IridescentAnaconda
IridescentAnaconda
Jun 17, 2020 2:55 AM
Reply to  Harvey

I like to promote this piece because it is very detailed, using many of the statistical techniques that are common in computational biology:
 
https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748
 
TLDR: very high probability of having been engineered through gain-of-function research.

RobG
RobG
Jun 16, 2020 11:31 PM

Another little anecdote about what’s happening in France, for anyone interested (and it does have some connection to Rosemary’s article above).  I had an appointment to see my doctor this afternoon: dangerously high blood pressure, which I’ve suffered from for decades (nothing to do with the present madness we are living through, although of course it doesn’t help) and really bad hay fever, which doesn’t normally effect me so much, but the pollen has been really awful this year.   My appointment was for 3.15pm. I was in the waiting room shortly before that time, and there were two other people waiting in there before me. I sat there for 25 minutes and during that time another two people came in and sat down. We were all socially distanced, of course. There were the now usual signs on the wall about washing your hands before seeing the doctor, and all… Read more »

Objective
Objective
Jun 16, 2020 11:50 PM
Reply to  RobG

Wearing a face mask is not good for someone with a lung condition…………….went to a local bar for a cigarette!

 
Your funny, ever considered perhaps there’s also link with your high blood pressure too. Its OK i’m a reformed x-smoker, you know what they’re like. 😉

RobG
RobG
Jun 17, 2020 12:27 AM
Reply to  Objective

Objective, “we’re all going to die sometime” (the quote is from a famous movie that I can’t now remember – probably because today I’ve smoked two packs of high strength cigarettes and two bottles of vin rouge).

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 17, 2020 12:57 AM
Reply to  RobG

smoking two bottles of vin rouge in a single day sounds like a bad idea. maybe you should cut back to smoking one bottle per day.

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 17, 2020 1:09 AM
Reply to  RobG

 
French health care is as good as it gets, I don’t know what they are complaining about, everything is instantly available with no delays. I got messages for the past 3 months telling me to see my doctor or seek treatment if needed without delay. What is the problem?

RobG
RobG
Jun 17, 2020 2:00 AM
Reply to  Harvey

Harvey, the problem is that Macron & Co are rapidly trying to turn it into the kind of ‘health service’ that the USA has.
 
Whereabouts in France do you live?

HarveyLong
HarveyLong
Jun 17, 2020 10:14 AM
Reply to  RobG

No, they are not. that is rubbish.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 17, 2020 5:28 PM
Reply to  RobG

Megadose vitamin C could help with the blood pressure and the hay fever.
 
Vitamin C might even help you stop smoking:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/cstop.html
 
You may already know that smoking destroys vitamin C, which is another way of saying that it increases your requirement for additional vitamin C.

Mo' Gabby
Mo' Gabby
Jun 16, 2020 10:54 PM

Sorry, If I am a little bit distracted…
It is around this time of night that I have these confused thoughts…
I am a man, no I’m a woman…I’m a man….no, no, no I’m woman….I’m a man a man man…stop….stop….nooooooooooooo I’m a MALE MUGGLE….No……I’m a FEMALE MUGGLE…Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
 
If you have musical taste, just turn the volume down…
 

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 16, 2020 10:47 PM

in the context of the statement “trans-women are women”, what is the relevant definition of the word “women”?

it clearly can’t be what you would find in a dictionary, or what most people would say if asked, referring to human anatomy, because then the statement would be self-evidently false.

the only way this statement could be even approximately non-false, is if the word “woman” is understood to mean “a person who feels like a woman”, or something similar. but this is just a tautology, which makes the original statement simply meaningless.

the whole ideology is so delusionally insane that it’s not even internally coherent, much less consistent with objective reality. it is a measure of the advanced decomposition of capitalist society, that idiocies such as this are thought to merit heated public discussion, rather than being seen as the psychiatric problems that they actually are.

Objective
Objective
Jun 16, 2020 11:58 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

I think the ridiculousness of the whole narrative is the point, its a neo-liberal politicized weapon, constructed by someone with a perverse sense of humor (just taking the piss out of conservatives), a psychopath playing silly games with useful idiots! Maybe because its so idiotic they knew no one would take it seriously until to late, allowing them to forward what ever agenda they hope to achieve, censoring free speech perhaps?

sylviad
sylviad
Jun 17, 2020 12:13 AM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

Yes, it’s an autophagous concept.   It’s ludicrous, and I’ve spent hours pointing this out to stupid people, arguing from a purely logical standpoint about LANGUAGE and meaning, to avoid accusations of ‘transphobia’. If words have no meaning we cannot communicate; we cannot have laws. If one can simply declare something is so and receive STATE backing, with no reference to a material reality, or culturally agreed definition boundaries, then society cannot function. ‘You are accused of killing this person with this knife’. ‘Your Honour, that is not a knife, the defendant maintains that is a banana. How could the defendant possibly have killed someone with a banana?” There are already many places around the world where yiu can change your legal gender just by filling in a form. I understand in some places you can do it online, and MAKE UP, your own unique gender. As I predicted, there… Read more »

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 17, 2020 12:44 AM
Reply to  sylviad

People who say ‘transwomen ARE women’ are stupid or malevolent.
 
that seems like a socially-repressive binary, why can’t they be both stupid AND malevolent? or stupidly malevolent, or malevolently stupid?
 
why should I have to choose? I won’t let the Man keep me down any longer.
 
don’t you oppress me.
 


Blubber
Blubber
Jun 20, 2020 9:08 AM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

All abstractions, perpetuated in order to create new markets to sell more stuff and utilised by opportunists for social division and control.

Dors
Dors
Jun 16, 2020 10:43 PM

“Can We Talk About JK Rowling?” 
 
– can
+ should
 
 
 
 

harveyhill
harveyhill
Jun 16, 2020 10:34 PM

I would like to see the first government try to enforce compulsory vaccination. It will be committing political suicide. It ain’t going to happen.

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 12:08 AM
Reply to  harveyhill

Would you have said that about social distancing marshals on beaches & shops? journey makers helping us stay safe on public transport ensuring we all wear masks, in other words Stasi !
 
Note how they are tentatively slowly & gently introducing the Waffen-SS into public life. Don’t you bet on them not making vaccines compulsory the odds are poor.

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 17, 2020 12:49 AM
Reply to  Objective

I have not seen any evidence of the ‘covid’ stasi, have you?

IridescentAnaconda
IridescentAnaconda
Jun 17, 2020 3:04 AM
Reply to  Harvey

Speaking of stupid or malevolent….
 
Just google “contact tracer”, “contact tracer funding” etc. and you’ll find ample evidence of covid stasi.
 
Here’s your first one for free:
 
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20200506.867202/full/

HarveyLong
HarveyLong
Jun 17, 2020 10:16 AM

Again , have you seen any evidence of the ‘Covid police’ you describe ?

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 17, 2020 5:32 PM
Reply to  HarveyLong

Um, yes. e.g. the actual police in my area (Thames Valley Police) are proud of the fact that they have the biggest prosecution record in the country for offences against the lockdown regulations (mostly involving people meeting in groups over the limit (which was 1 for quite a long time; may be 5 now; nobody seems quite sure)).
 
This is in the UK, by the way.

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 11:44 AM
Reply to  Harvey

I’m not likely to my friend, where i live i rarely see another human being LOL

Norbertrand
Norbertrand
Jun 17, 2020 3:54 PM
Reply to  Harvey

Beside the ‘contact tracers’ you’ll also be nudged into compliance by the ‘journey makers’ https://volunteeringmatters.org.uk/project/journey-makers/
 

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jun 17, 2020 3:01 AM
Reply to  harveyhill

I suspect that you underestimate both the success of the psychological warfare conducted thus far on many electorates around the globe and their commensurate stupidity.   Using generalisations, Trump told people that he would make their streets and by extension, their lives, safe; exactly what they wanted to hear. The same reassuring rhetoric will accompany any “saviour vaccine.”   The softening up of resistance has been forty-years in the making, with the power of collective thinking and the lowering of educational standards manipulated in tandem.   Brexit was a laboratory test in control and misdirection, conducted in isolation. COVID-19 is the world tour and the millions who cried out to be locked up and subjected to ever-tighter regulations will provide the first wave of willing arms, seeking immunity.   The rest will be history. Although, the MSM already has its headlines prepared, according to script.   Mankind is getting dumber… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 16, 2020 10:33 PM

I would call this whole alleged transphobia and alleged homophobia as the petty tyranny of the minority. No society in the world should allow young people under the age of 25yrs to go through any gender transition treatment. I am going to go as far as to say that it is butchery and if it were happening in poorer countries or those perceived to be communist countries it would be called as such.   I am at the point of extreme fed-upness with all this ‘phobia’ rubbish. Also, I note the hatred and vitriol on the part of the Trans lobbies to those questioning anything to do with trans-gendering. I for one, do not believe all this gender dysmorphia, it is currently a fashion but what cannot be ignored is that there is an incredibly high rate of suicide as much as up to 65% among those who have fully… Read more »

Marfanoid
Marfanoid
Jun 16, 2020 10:41 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

I agree It’s all about confusion.They confusing the kid’s more than us we have to remember.I am glad the NHS sorted it for me I would never have kids when I was 7.I get frightened when my cat goes out.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 2:13 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

No society in the world should allow young people under the age of 25yrs to go through any gender transition treatment irreversible butchery”

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 17, 2020 5:51 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Thanks breweriana – saying it truthfully and hard hitting is the best way.

gordon
gordon
Jun 16, 2020 10:28 PM

can you not see the mockery the capture slavery   a man a project dressed as a woman tackle in tact pontificating on the matters of men with tackle removed     i am not talking of fishy fishing’s expeditions and the tackle within the boat space but of much more sensitive issues   bartleby was once invited to antartica well little america to be exact by the very late father of admiral bird   he stunned many at the rockerfella edison funded fake royal geographi cull society by saying the words   i would prefer not to.     when questioned further by mr darwin and dr pasteur and karl marx he simply said   i would prefer not to.     maybe in his minds eye he knew the truth of the lie   not of small things like men dressed as woman throughout history penis or no… Read more »

Marfanoid
Marfanoid
Jun 16, 2020 10:47 PM
Reply to  gordon

I like your brilliant poems.Have you been Antarctica ? Where is it ?

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 16, 2020 10:58 PM
Reply to  Marfanoid

first go to the north pole, and then turn right. if you then keep walking in the same direction for about 20000km, you should arrive in Antarctica.

gordon
gordon
Jun 17, 2020 1:07 AM
Reply to  Marfanoid

it is in the mountains of madness
 
the fabian society minds of deceivers and schemers
and twisted masons minds
 
 
a space north south east and west
take a bearing and head that way eventually you will hit the wall
 
if you suffer from a form of travel sickness
and cannot go
 
another quest
simply
 
look upon the un logo
a crest
 
all will be revealed
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Mo' Gabby
Mo' Gabby
Jun 16, 2020 11:03 PM
Reply to  gordon

That’s just ridiculous…
Don’t you know that life, the universe…EVERYTHING…Burst out of a tiny overstuffed suitcase????

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 2:15 PM
Reply to  Mo' Gabby

life, the universe…EVERYTHING…Burst” Out of an infinitely small point.

Mo' Gabby
Mo' Gabby
Jun 16, 2020 10:28 PM

They’d all of been burned at the stake a few hundred years ago. Ah, the good old days. Is okay to say that, I mean I am not discriminating all are treated equally… More important stuff…Seagulls, Mince and the Clyde. Had a mixed day today… Walking along the Clyde coastal walkway, got some photos. Talked to a group of youths who were sitting out having a drinky, 3 girls and 3 boys, good kids. They had their doubts about the covid hoax, I think I was able to convince them fully, at least one or two of them. They were really quite adult, switched on and awake. Maybe there is hope yet. Further round the path, I got talking to a man and wife couple (strange in this day and age). She is a Nurse, they are both sceptical of what they are being told. Although, She thought that Doctors… Read more »

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 17, 2020 2:17 PM
Reply to  Mo' Gabby

Talked to a group of youths”
‘Covid’
If they didn’t have a TV, they wouldn’t know it existed.

Marfanoid
Marfanoid
Jun 16, 2020 10:26 PM

This is a made up nonsense.You are born a boy or a girl.They going to get rid of the word bisexual soon because it implies just 2 (two) genders.Nonsense.Never read the Harry Potter books because everybody told me to.Even my own brother.I saw what it did to them.I had to watch a Harry Potter film once with my 8 year old nephew and he laughed at me when I got scared.Gatekeeper Rowling or whatever your name is go away and I am shocked you have made a point of her.Well done .

Objective
Objective
Jun 17, 2020 12:17 AM
Reply to  Marfanoid

You wonder what they will replace the word hu-man with, when it becomes politically offensive.

IridescentAnaconda
IridescentAnaconda
Jun 17, 2020 3:09 AM
Reply to  Marfanoid

They going to get rid of the word bisexual soon because it implies just 2 (two) genders.

 
Have you not heard of the term pansexual?

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 17, 2020 7:56 AM

I’d like to add another one, to be applied to the politicians who, whether by design or via bandwagon jumping, facilitate and legalise this nonsense:
 
Solosexuals*
 
 
*Wankers.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 17, 2020 5:36 PM
Reply to  Philippe

Steady on old chap; every boy needs a hobby.

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 17, 2020 5:40 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

🙂 Indeed.

As a hobby, it’s fine. No argument from me.

Some people turn it into a lifestyle though.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 17, 2020 5:55 PM
Reply to  Philippe

Neat.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Jun 16, 2020 10:22 PM

In the early 1940s the disease now called autism was so novel that Freudian psychoanalysts sought by parents – the novel pertussis vaccine was at the time only offered to the children of the wealthy who could pay- blamed autism’s appearance on ‘refrigerator mothers’. Nowadays it is becoming increasingly clear that autism is a symptom of brain damage.   The treatment of sexual disphoria is clearly another sign of damage to cognitive function and whilst I cannot prove this, it looks very clear to me that this is yet another sign of vaccine damage. Around 2002, the World Health Organisation published a report claiming that one in ten of the entire world population of children is now mentally ill. The report was so radical that UK commentators simply ignored it.   We all know that Covid is a busted flush, yet the likes of Bill Gates and our own government… Read more »

Marfanoid
Marfanoid
Jun 16, 2020 11:00 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

I think people with auto immune diseases are going through it now.

Mo' Gabby
Mo' Gabby
Jun 16, 2020 11:05 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

Indeed, sexual dysphoria can be a facet of autism.

Gary Wilson
Gary Wilson
Jun 17, 2020 1:51 AM
Reply to  kevin morris

I have a copy of “DPT A SHOT IN THE DARK”. I also have a copy of “POTTENGER’S CATS”. I think the latter has a more probable cause for sexual disphoria.