JB Handley
Why did politicians ever lockdown society in the first place? Can we all agree that the stated purpose was to “flatten the curve” so our hospital system could handle the inevitable COVID-19 patients who needed care? At that point, at least, back in early March, people were behaving rationally. They accepted that you can’t eradicate a virus, so let’s postpone things enough to handle it.
The fact is, we have done that, and so much more.
The headlines are filled with dire warnings of a “second wave” and trigger-happy Governors are rolling back regulations to try to stem the tide of new cases. But, is any of it actually true and should we all be worried? No, it’s not a second wave.
The COVID-19 virus is on its final legs, and while I have filled this post with graphs to prove everything I just said, this is really the only graph you need to see, it’s the CDC’s data, over time, of deaths from COVID-19 here in the U.S., and the trend line is unmistakable:
If virologists were driving policy about COVID-19 rather than public health officials, we’d all be Sweden right now, which means life would effectively be back to normal. The only thing our lockdowns have done at this point is prolong the agony a little bit, and encouraged Governors to make up more useless rules.
Sweden’s health minister understood that the only chance to beat COVID-19 was to get the Swedish population to a Herd Immunity Threshold against COVID-19, and that’s exactly what they have done, so let me start there.
The Herd Immunity Threshold (“HIT”) for COVID-19 is between 10-20%
This fact gets less press than any other. Most people understand the basic concept of herd immunity and the math behind it. In the early days, some public health officials speculated that COVID-19’s HIT was 70%. Obviously, the difference between a HIT of 70% and a HIT of 10-20% is dramatic, and the lower the HIT, the quicker a virus will burn out as it loses the ability to infect more people, which is exactly what COVID-19 is doing everywhere, including the U.S, which is why the death curve above looks the way it looks.
Scientists from Oxford, Virginia Tech, and the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine, all recently explained the HIT of COVID-19 in this paper:
We searched the literature for estimates of individual variation in propensity to acquire or transmit COVID-19 or other infectious diseases and overlaid the findings as vertical lines in Figure 3. Most CV estimates are comprised between 2 and 4, a range where naturally acquired immunity to SARS-CoV-2 may place populations over the herd immunity threshold once as few as 10-20% of its individuals are immune.
Calculations from this study of data in Stockholm showed a HIT of 17%, and if you really love data check out this great essay by Brown Professor Dr. Andrew Bostom titled, COVID-19 ‘herd immunity’ without vaccination? Teaching modern vaccine dogma old tricks. I’m going to share his summary with you, because it’s so good:
Naturally acquired herd immunity to COVID-19 combined with earnest protection of the vulnerable elderly – especially nursing home and assisted living facility residents — is an eminently reasonable and practical alternative to the dubious panacea of mass compulsory vaccination against the virus.
This strategy was successfully implemented in Malmo, Sweden, which had few COVID-19 deaths by assiduously protecting its elder care homes, while “schools remained open, residents carried on drinking in bars and cafes, and the doors of hairdressers and gyms were open throughout.
One of the most vocal members of the scientific community discussing COVID-19’s HIT is Stanford’s Nobel-laureate Dr. Michael Levitt.
Back on May 4, he gave this great interview to the Stanford Daily where he advocated for Sweden’s approach of letting COVID-19 spread naturally through the community until you arrive at HIT. He stated:
If Sweden stops at about 5,000 or 6,000 deaths, we will know that they’ve reached herd immunity, and we didn’t need to do any kind of lockdown. My own feeling is that it will probably stop because of herd immunity. COVID is serious, it’s at least a serious flu. But it’s not going to destroy humanity as people thought.
Guess what? That’s exactly what happened. As of today, 7 weeks after his prediction, Sweden has 5,280 deaths. In this graph, you can see that deaths in Sweden PEAKED when the HIT was halfway to its peak (roughly 7.3%) and by the time the virus hit 14% it was nearly extinguished. (Shoutout to Gummi Bear on Twitter, a scientist who makes great graphs.)
How could Dr. Levitt have predicted the death range for Sweden so perfectly 7 weeks ago? Because he had a pretty solid idea of what the HIT would be. (If you’d like to further geek-out on HIT, check out: Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought.)
I absolutely LOVE Dr. Levitt (and as a Stanford alum, so proud he is a Stanford professor), watch this incredible video from just yesterday, go to 10:59 and just listen to this remarkable man!! Thrilled with his brand-new paper, released today, Predicting the Trajectory of Any COVID19 Epidemic From the Best Straight Line.
By the way, as a quick aside, and something else the press won’t touch: COVID-19 is a coronavirus, and we have ALL been exposed to MANY coronaviruses during our lives on earth (like the common cold).
Guess what? Scientists are now showing evidence that up to 81% of us can mount a strong response to COVID-19 without ever having been exposed to it before:
Cross-reactive SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes revealed preexisting T-cell responses in 81% of unexposed individuals, and validation of similarity to common cold human coronaviruses provided a functional basis for postulated heterologous immunity
This alone could explain WHY the HIT is so much lower for COVID-19 than some scientists thought originally, when the number being talked about was closer to 70%.
Many of us have always been immune!
If that’s not enough for you, a similar study from Sweden was just released and shows that “roughly twice as many people have developed T-cell immunity compared with those who we can detect antibodies in.”
(We kind of knew this from the data on the Diamond Princess when only 17% of the people on board tested positive, despite an ideal environment for mass spread, implying 83% of the people were somehow protected from the new virus.)
Quick Update: This article came out one day after I wrote mine, and validated everything I just said, except the author is wrong about COVID-19’s HIT, it’s 10-20%, not 60%, which is even better news:
However, it does provide a possible explanation for why the Covid-19 epidemic seems to have died away in many places once it had infected around 20 per cent of the local population (as judged by the presence of antibodies). If people are developing some kind of immunity to Covid-19 via their T cells then it could mean that a far higher percentage of the population has been exposed to Covid-19 than previously thought. Antibodies and T cells combined, it is conceivable that some places such as London or New York are already at or near the 60 per cent infection level required to achieve herd immunity.
Back to death rates over time. We actually have our own Sweden here in the U.S. It’s called New York City. In our case, we accidentally created a Sweden scenario, in that we took our medicine quickly, because:
- New York locked down so late that they didn’t flatten anything
- they have the highest population density in the U.S. in NYC
- the public health officials and Governors there made the bone-headed decision to send COVID-positive nursing home residents back to their nursing home, accelerating deaths of the most vulnerable.
What’s their death curve look like today? In this case, I borrowed the graph from the NYC public health website:
Hmm…notice anything about the chart or its slope? The reason deaths from COVID-19 are dwindling down to nothing isn’t because Governor Cuomo is a policy genius (in fact, he likely created more unnecessary deaths than any other Governor with the nursing home decision), it’s because the virus—like every virus in the history of mankind—is running out of people to infect.
The virus has a HIT of 10-20% and 70% of people are likely naturally immune. Hosts are in short supply! That’s what viruses do, and wait until you see what New York’s likely HIT is today.
We can get a crude, but helpful proxy for whether or not a state (or region) has achieved their own Herd Immunity Threshold if we know the following things: the size of the population, the number of deaths from COVID-19, and COVID-19’s IFR, or Infection Fatality Rate.
In my first blog post late last month, LOCKDOWN LUNACY: the thinking person’s guide, I discussed Infection Fatality Rate in detail, so I am just going to give a very quick summary here.
Stanford’s Dr. John Ioannidis published a meta-analysis (because so many IFR studies have been done around the world in April and early May) where he analyzed TWELVE separate IFR studies and his conclusion lays out the likely IFR for COVID-19:
The infection fatality rate (IFR), the probability of dying for a person who is infected, is one of the most critical and most contested features of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. The expected total mortality burden of COVID-19 is directly related to the IFR. Moreover, justification for various non-pharmacological public health interventions depends crucially on the IFR.
Some aggressive interventions that potentially induce also more pronounced collateral harms1 may be considered appropriate, if IFR is high. Conversely, the same measures may fall short of acceptable risk-benefit thresholds, if the IFR is low…Interestingly, despite their differences in design, execution, and analysis, most studies provide IFR point estimates that are within a relatively narrow range.
Seven of the 12 inferred IFRs are in the range 0.07 to 0.20 (corrected IFR of 0.06 to 0.16) which are similar to IFR values of seasonal influenza. Three values are modestly higher (corrected IFR of 0.25-0.40 in Gangelt, Geneva, and Wuhan) and two are modestly lower than this range (corrected IFR of 0.02-0.03 in Kobe and Oise).
The data on IFR has now been replicated so many times that our own Centers for Disease Control announced that their ‘best estimate’ showed an IFR below 0.3%.
In this article on the CDC’s new data, they also highlighted how the cascading declines in IFR has removed all the fears of doomsday:
That “best estimate” scenario also assumes that 35 percent of infections are asymptomatic, meaning the total number of infections is more than 50 percent larger than the number of symptomatic cases. It therefore implies that the IFR is between 0.2 percent and 0.3 percent.
By contrast, the projections that the CDC made in March, which predicted that as many as 1.7 million Americans could die from COVID-19 without intervention, assumed an IFR of 0.8 percent. Around the same time, researchers at Imperial College produced a worst-case scenario in which 2.2 million Americans died, based on an IFR of 0.9 percent.
In order to be as bullet-proof as possible, and because the IFR is an important part of the math I will do right now, I’ve decided to pick a simple and defensible number, the final number pegged by the CDC for COVID-19’s IFR: 0.26%
(As an aside, if we’d known this 3 months ago, no one in the public health world would have panicked. It’s a bad flu, and the rates for younger people are dramatically below 0.26% and approaching zero for children.)
Now that you understand COVID’s IFR and the likely HIT, it’s much easier to talk about the second wave, the data, and the implications. Here’s the deal:
Yes, certain states are having an uptick in three measurements: COVID-19 tests administered, positive COVID-19 tests, and hospitalizations. All three of these measurements are dubious. Hopefully, some of the rise in cases is REAL, because then the U.S. will arrive at Herd Immunity Threshold (“HIT”), which has been slightly delayed by lockdowns, sooner. Based on the “death curve” in the US, we are very close to being done.
Take population, COVID Deaths, and IFR to find HIT
C’mon stay with me! This math is basic, junior high level stuff. And, it’s going to give us the most important, but very crude, number we need to understand all this second wave nonsense: the approximate HIT already attained by state and by the United States.
If you know how many people have died from COVID-19 in any one region, you can quickly calculate how many people have had COVID-19 in that same region. All you do is divide deaths by the IFR. Let’s use NY as the example.
As of today, there have been 31,137 deaths from COVID-19. Take 31,137/.0026, you get 11,975,969 people infected with COVID-19. Take those 11 million people divided by New York’s population of 19.45 million, you get a HIT of…65%.
(Data geek comment: New York’s HIT is clearly OVER-stated, because total deaths drives HIT, and NY has a much higher rate of nursing home deaths due to bad policy.)
Huge disclaimer: This math is crude, but it’s also directionally accurate, and the comparisons BETWEEN states helps explain what’s going on. Importantly, the HIT required to snuff out the virus in any one region could be lower than Sweden’s number of 17%, for a million reasons, most notably better medical knowledge today than a few months ago about how to keep a vulnerable person alive.
Still, just look at this table I created using the math above:
Notice anything? New York is WELL PAST Herd Immunity Threshold (as is New Jersey), the southern states in the news are BELOW the implied HIT, while the U.S. overall is nearly there with 15%. This is why the death curve from the CDC (and NYC!) that I opened this blog post with looks the way it looks: we are basically done with the virus. Just like Sweden. Oh, and Italy:
Quick update: Mount Sinai doctors just released a study showing a seroprevalence study of a random sample of 5,000 New Yorkers, it states that “by the week ending April 19, the seroprevalence in the screening group reached 19.3%.”
If you take that 19.3% number, and consider what we just learned from Sweden — that half of people with immunity won’t show it with this test — and then consider how many more people have been exposed since April 28, it’s entirely plausible that NY is well past 40% or more people, which starts to look closer to the 65% number my math shows. Either way, let’s just keep it simple: New York, and especially NYC, are WELL PAST HIT of 10-20%, which explains why their death curve looks the way it looks.
Florida details
While HIT matters more than anything else in explaining the trajectory of the virus, and tells us that the U.S. is very close to being done with COVID-19, I wanted to take a closer look at one state, Florida, the current whipping boy of the press. They also have great data.
No one seems to be listening to the Governor, the health department, or the hospitals in Florida, who all seem to be saying the same thing, which is basically that everything is fine. On June 20, Florida’s department of health produced a presentation that explained how their testing had changed over time. Check out this slide:
So, as the state re-opened, they began to test everyone, “regardless of age and symptoms.” What do you think would happen when they did that? Obviously, more positives. So, here’s my first fact:
Fact #1: All of the “second wave” states have dramatically increased their testing. This alone causes cases to rise, and is the single biggest reason they have.
Still not convinced? Check out this eye-opener of a chart that shows per-capita testing in the U.S. versus other countries. Notice anything about June? Not only do we do MORE testing than any other country, but our testing spiked in June, right as all the headlines about more cases came out. Hmmm…
It’s not quite that simple. Yes, cases are up because more testing is being done. Cases have never, ever been a reliable indicator of ANYTHING. But, hospitalizations have been a reliable indicator. And, unexpectedly, there was an uptick in hospitalizations for COVID-19 beginning around June 6th in Florida, as you can see here:
The most obvious reason COVID-19 hospitalizations are going up is because of what’s happening in the hospital system. Patients are returning to the hospitals for elective surgery that were all delayed during the lockdown.
EVERY patient is screened for COVID-19. A patient who is undergoing elective knee surgery and tests positive for COVID-19 even though they are asymptomatic will be classified as “hospitalized with COVID-19.” This was explained in a recent NY Times article:
One-third of all patients admitted to the city’s [Miami] main public hospital over the past two weeks after going to the emergency room for car-crash injuries and other urgent problems have tested positive for the coronavirus.
Fact #2: Hospitalizations for COVID-19 are up slightly because of how COVID-19 positive patients are tracked. They will be in the number even if they didn’t go to the hospital BECAUSE of COVID-19
Still, there is something else going on. It’s not just more tests and the way hospitalizations are happening. Many states re-opened on May 1 and their trend lines were flat to down for weeks. It’s as if some super-spreader event happened in certain states towards late May/Early June.
It’s really clear that something unique is going on if you look at data from Minnesota, the state where George Floyd was tragically murdered, where positive cased are stratified by age:
As you can see, in Minnesota, the percentage of positive cases by people age 20-29 really spiked in mid to late June, which means infections likely happened in early June or late May. Yes, obviously, the densely-packed protests for racial equality and social justice—which I personally applaud—appear to have caused a REAL uptick in cases and hospitalizations.
See this article, Houston Protesters Begin to Fall Ill With Coronavirus After Marching for George Floyd. Just look at the median age of NEW cases in Florida for mid-June (used to be in the mid-60s):
Fact #3: A REAL rise in both cases and hospitalizations perfectly matches the timing of the nationwide protests which included many densely-packed crowds together for many hours and even days.
Not convinced? Check out this great graph that overlays the timing of the protests, lockdowns, social mobility, and hospitalizations using data for the entire US. Note there is a time delay between exposure and hospitalizations (between 8 and 15 days), and look at when the yellow hospitalization line goes up.
However, the good news about all of this is that there has been no impact on the number of COVID-19 patients in ICUs, which is consistent with the fact that we know younger patients are less impacted by COVID-19, check out this chart:
Fact #4: Despite a small uptick in hospitalizations, the number of COVID-19 patients in the ICU continues to decline.
IT’S DEATHS, NOT CASES
You’ve been hearing about a handful of states with rising cases, here they are on a chart, cases are clearly rising:
But for those states, what about deaths? They appear to be going the other way:
And, finally, perhaps the most important slide, using Florida as the example, there is NO correlation between more tests, more positive tests, and DEATHS (red line in the graph).
The fact that these three measures are not linear means Florida has a low and stable death rate, and the recent uptick in positive cases—which happens to be perfectly timed to the nationwide protests—means nothing:
Fact #5: There is NO correlation in Florida —the state taking the most heat in the press about a second wave — between positive tests and deaths.
Of course, anyone who has been paying attention to the data could have told you that, because the national data on COVID-19 deaths is looking more and more like Sweden’s, as we already discussed. Today, our national HIT is roughly 15%, which means we are almost done, no matter what any Governor does.
I’ve seen discussion about how the protests caused an uptick in infections amongst younger people. Some in opposition to that fairly obvious reality point to New York, which also had densely-packed protests but has NOT seen an uptick in hospitalizations—how do you explain that? By now, you know the answer: New York’s HIT is already 65%!
Notably, in the math I used, Florida only had a Herd Immunity Threshold number of 6%, well below the target of 17%. So, yes, they MAY WELL have to endure a few more deaths before they achieve HIT. But, it’s highly likely that 1) it won’t need to be as high as 17% because the people being infected are much younger (where death rate is much lower) and 2) that it will happen in the next few weeks, and policy will have nothing to do with whether it happens or not. Either way, because we know the national number is 15%, the virus is almost gone, no matter what anyone says or does, and all you need to do to verify that is look at the CDC’s death curve.
A FINAL THOUGHT ABOUT FLORIDA
John Thomas Littell, MD is a family physician in Florida. I was going to publish an excerpt from his Letter to the Editor of the Orlando Medical News, but it’s so good and so wide-ranging, I want you to read the whole thing, and then we can wrap this up:
Several times a day, on every possible news outlet, we are bombarded with updates as to the new number of “cases” of COVID-19 in the U.S. and elsewhere. News analysts then use these numbers to justify criticisms of those who dare to reject the CDC’s recommendations with regards to mask wearing and social distancing.
It is imperative that all Americans – and especially those in the medical profession – understand the actual definition of a “case” of COVID -19 so as to make informed decisions as to how to live our lives.
Older Americans remember all too well the dread they experienced when a family member was diagnosed with a “case” of scarlet fever, diphtheria, whooping cough (pertussis), or polio. During my career in family medicine, including several years as an Army physician, I have cared for patients with chickenpox, shingles, Lyme disease as well as measles, tuberculosis, malaria, and AIDS. The “case definition” established for all of these diseases by the CDC requires the presence of signs and symptoms of that disease.
In other words, each case involved a SICK patient. Laboratory studies may be performed to “confirm” a diagnosis, but are not sufficient in the absence of clinical symptoms.
Having now been privileged to care for sick patients with COVID-19, both in and out of the hospital setting, I am happy to see the number of these sick patients dwindle almost to zero in my community – while the “case numbers” for COVID-19 continue to go up. Why is that?
In marked contrast to measles, shingles, and other infectious disease, “cases” of COVID-19 do NOT require the presence of ANY symptoms whatsoever. Health departments are encouraging everyone and anyone to come in for testing, and each positive test is reported as yet another “new” case of COVID-19!
On April 5, 2020, a small number of state epidemiologists (Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists (CSTE) Technical Supplement: Interim-20-ID-01) came up with a “surveillance” case definition for COVID-19.
At the time, there was uncertainty as to whether or not completely asymptomatic persons could transmit COVID-19 sufficiently enough to infect and cause disease in others. (This notion has never been proven and, in fact, has recently been discounted – cfr “ A Study on the Infectivity of Asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Carriers, Ming Fao et al, Respir Med, 2020 Aug – available online through PubMed 2020 May 13, as well as recent reports from the WHO itself).
The CSTF thereby justified the unconventional case definition for COVID-19, adding “CSTE realizes that field investigations will involve evaluations of persons with no symptoms and these individuals will need to be counted as cases.”
Hence, anyone who has a positive PCR test (the nasal swab, PCR test for COVID Antigen or Nucleic Acid) or serological test (blood test for antibodies –IgG and/or IgM) would be classified as a “case” – even in the absence of symptoms.
In our hospitals at this time, there are hundreds of former nursing home residents sitting in “COVID” units who are in their usual state of good health, banned from returning to their former nursing home residences simply because they have TESTED Positive for COVID-19 during mass testing programs in the nursing homes.
The presence of a positive lab test for COVID-19 in a person who has never been sick is actually GOOD news for that person and for the rest of us. The positive test indicates that this person has likely mounted an adequate immune response to a small dose of COVID-19 to whom he or she was exposed – naturally (hence, no need for a vaccine vs. COVID-19).
It is important as well to understand that the presence of lab testing is not the ONLY criterion that the CDC used to established a diagnosis of COVID-19. The presence of only 1 or 2 flu-like symptoms (fever, chills, cough, sore throat, shortness of breath) – in the absence of another proven cause (e.g., influenza, bacterial pneumonia) is SUFFICIENT to give a diagnosis of COVID-19 – as long as the patient also meets certain “epidemiological linkage” criteria as follows:
“In a person with clinically compatible symptoms, [a “case” will be reported if that person had] one or more of the following exposures in the 14 days before onset of symptoms: travel to or residence in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission of SARS-CoV-2; close contact (10 minutes or longer, within a 6 foot distance) with a person diagnosed with COVID-19; or member of a risk cohort as defined by public health authorities during an outbreak.” Note that the definition of a “risk cohort” includes age > 70 or living in a nursing home or similar facility.
So, in essence, any person with an influenza- like illness (ILI) could be considered a “case” of COVID-19, even WITHOUT confirmatory lab testing. The CDC has even advised to consider any deaths from pneumonia or ILI as “Covid-related” deaths – unless the physician or medical examiner establishes another infectious agent as the cause of illness.
Now perhaps you see why the increasing number of cases, and even deaths, due to COVID-19 is fraught with misinterpretation and is NOT in any way a measure of the ACTUAL morbidity and mortality FROM COVID-19. My patients who insist upon wearing masks, gloves and social distancing are citing these misleading statistics as justification for their decisions (and, of course, that they are following the “CDC guidelines”). I simply advise them, “COVID-19 is NOT in the atmosphere around us; it resides in the respiratory tracts of infected individuals and can only be transmitted to others by sick, infected persons after prolonged contact with others”.
So you may ask – why are we continuing to report increasing numbers of cases of COVID as though it were BAD news for America? Rather than as GOOD news, i.e, that the thousands of healthy Americans testing positive (also known as “asymptomatic”) are indicative of the presence of herd immunity – protecting themselves and many of us from potential future assaults by variants of COVID?
Why did we as a society stop sending our children to schools and camps and sports activities? Why did we stop going to work and church and public parks and beaches? Why did we insist that healthy persons “stay at home” – rather than observing the evidence-based, medically prudent method of identifying those who were sick and isolating them from the rest of the population – advising the sick to “stay at home” and allowing the rest of society to function normally? And, while we witnessed the gatherings of protestors in recent days with little concerns for COVID-19 spread among these asymptomatic persons, most certainly many are hoping that the increasing “case” numbers for COVID-19 will discourage folks from coming to any more rallies for certain candidates for political office.
Fear is a powerful weapon. FDR famously broadcast to Americans in 1933 that “We have nothing to fear, but fear itself”. I would argue that we have to fear those who would have us remain fearful and servile and willing to surrender basic freedoms without justification.
John Thomas Littell, MD, is a board-certified family physician. After earning his MD from George Washington University, he served in the US Army, receiving the Meritorious Service Medal for his work in quality improvement, and also served with the National Health Service Corps in Montana.
During his eighteen years in Kissimmee, FL, Dr Littell has served on the faculty of the UCF School of Medicine, President of the County Medical Society, and Chief of Staff at the Florida Hospital. He currently resides with his wife, Kathleen, and family in Ocala, Florida, where he remains very active as a family physician with practices both in Kissimmee and Ocala.
Dr. Littell brings up many more issues than I have chosen to address in this post, because I already wrote about them in my previous blog post on May 30.
Wasn’t this supposed to be about hospitals?
The only reason ever given for locking down in the first place was space availability in hospitals. Here’s what Florida said about their hospitals last week:
And here’s what doctors in Houston, Texas said last week:
Hospital CEO’s including, Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist, Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System, Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health, and Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital, held a zoom conference, June 25, out of concern, “that recent news coverage has unnecessarily alarmed the Houston community about hospital capacity during this COVID-19 surge.” The two key major takeaways from today’s discussion: The Houston health care system has the resources and capacity necessary to treat patients with COVID-19 and otherwise…
Sigh. So why is the press making such a big deal out of the “second wave”? I don’t do politics, but if I did I would probably mention that here.
What are Governors doing?
In a quick word: nothing helpful. I think this guy summarizes how I feel:
Seriously, though, the rollbacks of openings are simply ridiculous, and simply compounding a terrible idea, and delaying the inevitable process within each region of achieving a proper Herd Immunity Threshold. If you want to get angry about lockdowns all over again, like I did in my article in May, just read this: The lockdown is causing so many deaths. Here’s an excerpt:
How many people aged 15 or under have died of Covid-19? Four. The chance of dying from a lightning strike is one in 700,000. The chance of dying of Covid-19 in that age group is one in 3.5million. And we locked them all down. Even among the 15- to 44-year-olds, the death rate is very low and the vast majority of deaths have been people who had significant underlying health conditions. We locked them down as well. We locked down the population that had virtually zero risk of getting any serious problems from the disease, and then spread it wildly among the highly vulnerable age group. If you had written a plan for making a complete bollocks of things you would have come up with this one.
In Conclusion
Dr. Michael Levitt and Sweden have been right all along. The only way through COVID-19 is by achieving the modest (10-20%) Herd Immunity Threshold required to have the virus snuff itself out. The sooner politicians—and the press—start talking about HIT and stop talking about new confirmed cases, the better off we will all be. Either way, it’s likely weeks, not months, before the data of new daily deaths will be so low that the press will have to find something new to scare everyone. It’s over.
A quick note:
Haters of this article will post articles about Sweden saying their approach has been a failure. They will point to recent press about Sweden having higher rates of COVID-19 positive tests lately — Sweden has pushed back strongly — so here’a chart for the haters, it shows positive cases in Sweden, tracked against deaths. There’s no correlation.
For my truly committed readers who made it this far:
The death rate is a fact; anything beyond this is an inference.”
William Farr (1807 – 1883)
William Farr, creator of Farr’s law, knew this over 100 years ago. Viruses rise and fall at roughly the same slopes. It’s predictable, and COVID-19 is no different, which is why, after looking at all these death curves, it’s not very hard to declare that the pandemic is over.
Oxford’s center for Evidence Based Medicine has a wonderful explanation of Farr’s law, and it’s well worth a read. Some of my favorite quotes:
Farr shows us that once peak infection has been reached then it will roughly follow the same symmetrical pattern on the downward slope […] In the midst of a pandemic, it is easy to forget Farr’s Law, and think the number infected will just keep rising, it will not. Just as quick as measures were introduced to prevent the spread of infection we need to recognise the point at which to open up society and also the special measures due to ‘density’ that require special considerations.”
Once peak deaths have been reached we should be working on the assumption that the infection has already started falling in the same progressive steps. Using deaths as the proxy for falling infections facilitates the planning of the next steps for reopening those societies that are in lockdown.”
A reader just sent me this chart from the CDC. If you don’t think the COVID-19 virus has run its course according to Farr’s Law, I can’t help you!





Deaths are rising in the United States
Absolute deaths are rising, death rate per thousand is falling
Has anynody done the calculations of false positive covid tests ? It sounds great that a test is 99.9% accurate when it comes to specificity, but the results are terrible when very few have the so-called virus. See the quote below from the Norwegian authorities.
With a prevalence of 0.01 per cent (as in Norway today), the positive predictive value would be around 7 per cent with today’s PCR test (sensitivity 80 per cent and specificity 99.9 per cent). That is, 14 out of 15 who test positive are not infected with SARS-CoV-2.
If we presume that the rate is as low as 20 positives in Australia, one in a million, then we would have 1000 false positives if we test a million. If we are lucky we would find one of the Infected ones. We would then probably treat 1000 persons as if they had so-called Covid.
All the positives in Melbourne may in principle be false positives. Maybe one or 2 have the virus. Now, if the accuracy is only 99%, we would have 10000 false positives for each hit.
And this is the best possible scenario, not counting false negatives.
Victoria actually did 1 million tests and got 0.3 % positives. If the accuracy of the tests used were 99.7 they could all be false positives.
https://www.fhi.no/en/op/novel-coronavirus-facts-advice/testing-and-follow-up/test-criteria-for-coronavirus/
Now 99.9 % specificity may seem a bit high, and BMJ states the following
As current studies show marked variation and are
current estimates from systematic reviews,
numbers of 70% for sensitivity and 95% for specificity for illustrative purposes.
University of Texas found the following:
The sensitivity of the RT-PCR diagnostic test was estimated to be 0.777 (95% CI: 0.715, 0.849), while the specificity was 0.988 (95% CI: 0.933, 1.000). The confidence intervals include sampling error in addition to the error due to probabilistic knowledge of the data
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20078949v1.full.pdf
So the false positive error could be as high as 5%
If there is no virus at all, we would get 50000
Pr million rested. The us has tested 40 million
If the specificity is 92% all of the tests could be false positives. Approximately 8000 people die in the us pr day. Covid 19 has been going on for about 130 days. During this time
1 040 000 Americans have died. Since many have been coded as covid deaths if doctors have suspected covid, 92% specificity could explain the whole epidemic with false positive.
With labs being under pressure to perform, it is probable that contaminants from previous tests lead to higher false positives. They cannot result in false negatives.
Have a look at the quotes below and imagine stressed lab technicians pressured to work quickly and unconsciously being rewarded for finding sars cov2 infections
Currently, DNA amplification techniques have become important detection tools. However, the extreme sensitivity of such techniques can easily result in contamination. This is a major problem in using these techniques routinely in a regulatory agency such as the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) because false-positive polymerase chain reaction (PCR) results will fail our mission. Preventing PCR carryover contamination and a capacity to rapidly determine false PCR positives are crucial. In the past, several methods have been used to prevent amplicon carryover contamination
https://www.intechopen.com/books/polymerase-chain-reaction-for-biomedical-applications/regulatory-concern-of-polymerase-chain-reaction-pcr-carryover-contamination
There can be various sources of contamination during PCR, leading to myriad observations that may require troubleshooting. A common observation is excessive or unexpected signal, typically caused by contamination of reagents with template, genomic DNA, or amplicons from previous reactions.
https://www.intechopen.com/books/polymerase-chain-reaction-for-biomedical-applications/regulatory-concern-of-polymerase-chain-reaction-pcr-carryover-contamination
There are many ways a PCR experiment can go wrong, ruining your hard work. Environmental contamination of PCR samples is one such error.
Obtaining a clean, successful PCR requires samples free of exogenous DNA. But contaminating DNA can be lurking around every corner—from previously amplified products hanging out in the lab to your own DNA. The good news is that you can largely avoid common types of contamination by following these simple guidelines:
https://www.takarabio.com/about/bioview-blog/tips-and-troubleshooting/avoid-dna-contamination-in-pcr
Intriguing, but I need to read the articles he cites to know how much they really support his theses. Second red flag for me was that his autism book is anti-vaccination; synopsis here: https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/summary-analysis-how-to-end-the-autism-epidemic-by-j-b-handley (First red flag was reference to “haters of this book”—no serious scientist I know talks that way.) Note his day job is private investment firm: that could explain his doing intense research to understand a major market driver—if he’s right, there’s lots of money to be made or lost. Unfortunately, it could also motivate deception.
I didn’t see where Handley claimed to be a scientist. A scientist is one who uses the Scientific Method – Observation, hypothesis and testing. An analyst is someone who interprets data, which is what Handley appears to be doing.
Article above claims: “No one seems to be listening to the Governor, the health department, or the hospitals in Florida, who all seem to be saying the same thing, which is basically that everything is fine”
This is whats going on in reality:
“At least 56 Florida hospitals in 25 different counties have hit 100% ICU capacity, according to overall hospital data released by the state. Another 35 only have 10% or less capacity remaining. In all, the state has just 962 out of a total of 5,023 ICU beds available as infections continue to rise. One expert said contact tracing has become impossible, because here are so many infections now in South Florida.”
https://www.salon.com/2020/07/08/56-florida-hospitals-hit-100-icu-capacity-as-desantis-defends-refusal-to-release-coronavirus-data/
What a poorly researched piece of Junk article is this?
Come on JB Handley, is this all you got?
2 answers,
1-what percentage of these icu patients are covid patients? No mentions. Are all of them covid of course not, can they be covid patients plus delayed treatment patients who are now not in a good shape any more?
2-i don’t know usa but in my country and in lots of countries in any major cities any hospital’s icu beds at any given time are usually at least %75-80 percent full, you add this to extra covid patients and non covid delayed treatment patients you will get this numbers.
This is essentially what the Houston doctors and administrators have said. The near-capacity of ICUs are a normal, seasonal thing, not related to COVID-19.
I think the thing to keep our eyes on is deaths, and possibly hospitalizations from COVID-19, not positive test results, which are simply an artifact of mass testing. Deaths are still trending down, so much so that the CD has said that this may not even qualify as an epidemic now.
Come on, July is not a season to have full hospital beds.
Deaths are trending down because the newly infected people don’t die immediately, it takes weeks sometimes months. The downward trend is from previous lock-down, simple.
Read/listen what they said. It’s on YouTube, unless they’ve scrubbed it for being ‘disinformation’.
But, in the vast, overwhelming, majority of positive cases, there is no need for hospitalizations. The vast majority don’t even show symptoms. We’re talking about hundreds or thousands of ICU beds, and nowhere near that many people require hospitalizations, give the number of supposed infections being uncovered by testing.
I’ve also read in Arizona(?) they not only count people who have tested positive by some test as COVID cases, but anyone who has been in contact with them, whether they have tested positive or not. Might the reported number of ‘cases’ then also be inflated? I think it is likely, given the other shenanigans that have been going on.
Come back to me if and when mass numbers of people start dying from the infections.
I believe the TMC admins said about 23% of ICU patients were COVID, but that is recollection only.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/02/no-one-has-died-from-the-coronavirus-president-of-the-bulgarian-pathology-association/
This is an article in this very site. Hasn’t anyone read it?
If as many as 80% of us already had antibodies, the detection of antibodies is the threshold measure for a ‘case’ and CDC does not separate these cases from active, symptomatic cases in their figures, did COViD 19 ever really exist? Was it just a common vagrant virus we all have, like varicella, that got tapped to be the star of a made for TV drama? Can you all not see that it’s all one big circular reference? Building antibodies against COVID IS THE CURE. 80% of us already had the cure. The ‘cure’, ie the presence of antibodies, is the exact thing that constitutes a ‘case’. If you don’t have any bodies you are ‘at risk’. Do you not see that this might not even be real, and is definitely designed to conceivably go on forever? What is the endpoint? Has anyone said or does anyone know? Is the only approved answer that everyone take whatever Franken-Vaccine they come up with unquestioningly? The fraud is so obvious and preposterous that the author mostly wastes his time with all the scientific rigor. Every scientist already knows and has said all this. Two minutes before being banned from YT and FB. Regrettably, the ‘scientists’ we have tapped as the ‘experts’ in dealing with this have done nothing remotely resembling science. Their statistical assumptions have been a freaking embarrassment, and they have yet to even suggest what the end will be or how it will be determined scientifically.
When a cop is as wrong as these scientists and kills an innocent person, I don’t need to tell you what happens. Were a President to be this wrong and flip the nuke switch this erroneously, he would be the shame of history. Forget the inane, circular scientific arguments. Forget the benefit of the doubt. The emperor stands naked and your eyes can see it clearly. This is all a huge sham. 40 million are out of work. The economy is on life support. Entire markets have crashed to zero. Let’s be done talking about ‘science’ when it was never relevant. Let’s now move the entire discussion to “What will be the punishment?”. Nobody went to jail for 9/11. Nobody went to jail for collapsing the housing market. Are you gonna bitch out again and let this entire fraud pass unpunished too? Seriously? Then why are you even reading this article? Why would the facts even matter to you if you’re gonna do nothing with them but bow and take your shot that you never needed? Get pissed people. You’ve been had!
The truth wise young man, you speak
Beside the full-court-press campaign of terror by the consolidated media and its censorship of all non-Fauci, alternative and logical scientific opinion…Death counts should betray the failure of the pharmaceutical healthcare and defective food monopolies to increase actual health and immunity of the public. It was obvious that medical authorities were bent on the idea of mass vaccination from get-go with the lamest of preventive steps of lockdown/isolation/masks/distancing/ventilators/tracing and the flagrant malpractice by convincing the public there “are no cures” and just be helpless.
In fact clinics that employed Vitamins C&D, zinc, selenium, nebulized hydrogen peroxide, enhanced H2/O2 and sugar restriction>>>Lost NO Patients! This campaign of fear itself weakens immunity by creating nocebo sympathetic dominance which also prevents healing. So what we have is another theft of wealth, boost of inflation, tightened control/compliance across the planet where not only a ham-fisted medical establishment, but political, bureaucratic and media involvement have resulted in another 9/11 style false flag crisis. BigBro; “Don’t Taze me, Vaxx me or Taxx Me!”
” In fact clinics that employed Vitamins C&D, zinc, selenium, nebulized hydrogen peroxide, enhanced H2/O2 and sugar restriction>>>Lost NO Patients!”
LOL! And the earth is flat right? I mean riiiight?!
Pete…You a paid troll or just poorly informed by the popular media?
Well said
“Why did we as a society…”?
We, as a society, didn’t. Fewer than 50 state governors did. Classic definition of authoritarianism but now they get to claim, without any fear of contradiction, that they “saved lives”.
Thanks for the great article.
Dr explaining the pandemic to a coma patient who just woke up…
Dr: “They shut down the world because of a worldwide pandemic.”
Patient: “OMG! How many people are infected?”
Dr : “About 11 Million.”
Patient: “OMG! 11 million people died?”
Dr: “No, only 500 thousand… Kind of.”
Patient: “What do you mean ‘kind of’?”
Dr: “Well… they keep halving the number of deaths due to double counting, inaccurate tests and mislabeled death certificates. Also, most of the people that die are elderly and dying of other things. There are also people who died because of incorrect ventilator use and other treatments because no-one really understands the virus.”
Patient: “I don’t get it. So how many died from ONLY the virus… like literally dropped dead in the street?”
Dr: “No-one. Only in hospitals and nursing homes”
Patient: “I don’t get it.”
Dr: “Neither do I, it’s a very confusing time.”
Patient: “So they cured the other 11 million people then?”
Dr: “No, most didn’t have any symptoms and in fact they didn’t even know they had it.”
Patient: “I don’t get it.”
Dr: “Neither do I.”
Patient: “It doesn’t sound very deadly. If the other 11 million people didn’t have symptoms then how do they even know they had the virus?”
Dr: “They were tested.”
Patient: “But you just said that the tests are inaccurate.”
Dr: “They are. No-one has isolated the virus so the tests don’t really test for that.”
Patient: “I don’t get it.”
Dr: “Neither do I.”
Patient: “Ok. So when will this pandemic be over?”
Dr: “When they develop a vaccine to stop the virus.”
Patient: “The virus that nobody gets or dies from.”
Dr: “Exactly.”
Patient: “I don’t get it.”
Dr: “Neither do I.”
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=598604796851054&story_fbid=3367718519939654
Yeah Yeah funny funny, ha ha ha….
Meanwhile in the real world:
“At least 56 Florida hospitals in 25 different counties have hit 100% ICU capacity, according to overall hospital data released by the state. Another 35 only have 10% or less capacity remaining. In all, the state has just 962 out of a total of 5,023 ICU beds available as infections continue to rise. One expert said contact tracing has become impossible, because here are so many infections now in South Florida.”
https://www.salon.com/2020/07/08/56-florida-hospitals-hit-100-icu-capacity-as-desantis-defends-refusal-to-release-coronavirus-data/
Does anything in the article suggest these are all COVID-19 patients, or is that a supposition, a suspicion?
OK, but something similar happened in Florida in 2009 and they didn’t need to shut down the economy because of it:
In Flu Pandemic, Florida’s Hospitals May Exclude Certain Patients
https://www.propublica.org/article/in-flu-pandemic-states-hospitals-may-exclude-certain-patients-1016
Many thanks for a scientific response to all the nonsensical drama!
With a medical background I have been astounded by the strange protocols and reasons given… lockdowns look more like lockups, crashing an economy where millions of jobs, homes and businesses are lost, for approximately 1% death rate, does not add up. Very strange, handling of this.
“Medial background” because of the Janitor job at the local clinic?
Part of the problem is that the CDC provides information in formats that are not readily digestible. Furthermore, the data changes weekly as the CDC processes death certificates from around the country… and those “causes of deaths” are not always consistently formulated.
The latest notion is that the number of cases appears to be increasing because the states relaxed movement and commerce restrictions. That would have been around the end of May for the most part. That also coincided with mass protests around the country. The number of cases could be increasing simply because more people are being tested by both the swab method and antibody tests. This may be uncovering infections that previously went unreported or unnoticed. The CDC itself estimated that the number of cases was 10 times that reported. If so, the death rate was 1/10th that being calculated.
I put together a tracker of weekly deaths that allows us to see if there actually has been a surge in deaths along with a perceived surge in cases. So far, the surge in deaths has not occurred.
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There are a couple of minor errors in the chart: 1) the date of the the last week should have been 7/4 instead of 7/6 and the total for the column “as of 7-8-20” did not pick up the 177 from the last week. But the rest of the data and chart are correct. Since there may be as much as a month delay between the actions of relaxing restrictions and protest marches and an uptick in deaths, we should already be seeing that uptick.
The link to the source data is shown on the chart.
Apparently, the link did not translate well into this site. I’ll try again here.
MoA rebellion continues.
Over half of all responses to latest MoA post are devastatingly critical but were not censored.
I guess B self instigated argument for censorship of his own blog namely a supposed threat of conspiracy theories (anything not vetted by CDC and MSM) to national health interests that may cause irreparable harm to population, turned out to be bullshit and an act of ignorance, arrogance and self humiliation.
MoA’s gotten-to; maybe always was.
C.
Adding: something I’ve noticed at most all the fear-mongering sites, MoA amongst them, is that aside from the site proprietor there’s very typically
a group of a half-dozen or so attack dogs, who viciously go at anyone
who doesn’t accept the ZOMG Death-and-Destruction!!! Narrative..
A glance at MoA’s comments section will fill you in. 😉
At the now gotten-to Naked Capitalism™ there was one of those types in particular who would hammer at anyone (like me) who wouldn’t go along with the
Fear Narrative (hey, “Monty”!)..
it’s [virtually] all gotten-to, folks..
C.
Ok I have some time to start looking at the graphs in detail now. I already posted about the last graph in the article, which is the most important in my opinion for all of the world – the lag between infection and death.
Now let’s look at the veracity of the very first graph that is in the authors words the only graph that matters – the deaths. Which he claims proves that the epidemic is over.
If so, then why are ‘ Deaths, which health experts say are a lagging indicator, continued to fall nationally to 3,447 people in the week ended July 5. A handful of states, however, have reported increases in deaths for at least two straight weeks including Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, Texas and Tennessee.’ ?
https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/USA-TRENDS/dgkvlgkrkpb/index.html
……..
When it comes to the excuse that increased testing increases the number of positive tests – I agree with that logic – then how can we tell if it shows us whether the epidemic is declining or increasing?
Simple. By looking at the positive result RATE from the tests is how.
If you test a 100 and 10 are positive, the rate is 1/10.
If you test a 1000 and 100 are positive, the rate is the same 1/10, even though there are 80 more positive – it means the epidemic is not increasing or decreasing.
If you test 100,000 and the positives are 9000 the rate is MORE than 1/10 so the epidemic is receding even if there are 8900 more positive ; BUT if the positives are 11.000 then the rate is LESS than 1/10 and the epidemic is getting WORSE.
In some places the rate is dropping already!
In some places the Intensive Care beds are already maxing out!
The charlatan anti vaxxer, fabricator of the lie that Autism is caused by vaccination, has this flimflam story collapsing as a result already.
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I expect many countries will restrict visitors from the USA in the coming days, sorry we won’t be seeing you regulars in our usual tropical getaways this winter or most of Europe. Hunker down and stay safe by yourselves – most of your damned politicians don’t care. I don’t blame Trump but your local ones who have the power to do something. You have elections locally this year – choose wisely.
And by the way
This scanning electron microscope image shows SARS-CoV-2 (round magenta objects), also known as COVID-19, emerging from the surface of cells cultured in the lab. Image: NIAID-RML
Electron microscopes do not make or take color photos. What else was touched up?
Deaths over inflated ten times by catch all COVID death definition, number of people being infected is 50 to 100 times deflated by using critically flawed PCR test as 60-80 millions in US already been infected with mild or no symptoms developed antibodies and are immune or inherently resistant via TCell DT4 mechanism especially children whose iFR is zero.
Most of all last two weeks numbers of new PCR test positives are false positives up to 80%, any person tested positive before two weeks ago is no longer infected as acquired immunity and is not a danger to anyone. At most in entire US currently today, perhaps 100,000 people actively spreading virus but there reproduction number is below one as others already acquired immunity and cannot get infected or sick.
MSM must stop this COVID Infection porn and death porn as during last four months about 1.5 millions died in US for all caused in US as they do every year with no panic or economic destruction, 1.5 millions fie for respiratory diseases and one millions die entire preventable deaths due to malpractice, abandonment or lack of health insurance or access.
What acquired immunity?
Do you understand the positive RATE concept? Which overrides the false positive/negative vagaries?
There are now 10’s of thousands of full genome sequences of the CV and there a electron microscope photo of it!
Turning a blind eye and sticking fingers in ears will not make it go away! It’s not a fictional monster under the bed. Only the various types of testing, tracing and quarantines have stopped it becoming a holocaust so far – at different outcomes in different jurisdictions.
It has now become a political football in the elections in the US – they are suffering because of it.
What do the rates matter if the test is flawed and only tests for the CURE, antibody response? You’re being duped by your own semantics. The numbers mean nothing. Tanzania tested a goat, sheep and guyabana fruit and all came back positive. You can’t just ignore this and come back to the case numbers to make your inane point. The case numbers, no matter how you treat them are useless. Because they ARE NOT the real case numbers. Thousands of people more qualified than you have been screaming this for months. We get it, you had a neat idea. But it’s effectively inane so get over it.
“ What do the rates matter if the test is flawed and only tests for the CURE, antibody response? ”
But the PCR swab tests don’t test for antibodies!
The rates matter, when people, illogical ones, say that more tests show more infections, so the epidemic is not accelerating.
I doubt there are thousands ‘more qualified’ and certainly not this charlatan author who tried to make a living out of claiming vaccines caused autism!
Get it?
More absurdities from Guardian, I hope it will be noticed by OFFG.
Again interesting is involvement of UCL inadvertently suggesting that COVID Is a form of mental disorder making people believe that they have COVID or “journalists” and doctors believing that patients have COVID, and/or politicians believing that COVID gives them authoritarian power to lock us down and up.
Perhaps it is a breakthrough mapping COVID hypochondria, cruel opportunism or greed and lust to power and control to specific brain pathology. I wonder how Gates fully COVID infected brain CT scan looks like.
Ok… About “us” I can only say this


and about the WAVES, I’ve made a few more levels, to better depict Reality!
I would like to say on behalf of the minority of sane and rational commenters here that we very much appreciate the time and trouble that the author has put into this mammoth piece.
Now, I recognise that what I am about to say will fall on deaf ears, but I am in a ballsy mood so if you don’t like it, tough shit.
Any sane and rational person would probably reason that not only are viruses real (though much too small to ever see) but so is this particular virus. Not only that, but this coronavirus (sars-cov-2) does indeed cause – in some – a disease called covid19.
With that said, this is not about a virus.
Nor for that matter is this about a global conspiracy. And while I share the deep revulsion that many here have for William Gates III, I nevertheless do not think he is the spawn of the Devil, intent on wiping out half the world’s population with his vaccine.
(And despite saying that, I would still say, “No thank you, Mr Gates, I do not want to be injected with your potion.”)
I am anti-Bill not anti-vaxx.
I know, I’m confusing some of you. Tough.
Now, to the point. This is not about a virus or Mr Gates, it is about fear. The virus is real, but the real contagion is the fear that has swept the planet. That is the real problem here.
(Sigh, I try to reach you loons, but I know I’m wasting my time in trying to say this … I mean, I said it right at the start, and still you don’t get it. Well, I’m not happy with this piece, not my best effort, still, my brain is not fully engaged this evening … oh, I could go on …)
Hasn’t met the Koch postulates
So no point trying to explain something that’s not even been isolated yet to see is it even real?
Hello John…
Can you point me (link) for one study (if you know more, great!) were it is scientifically demonstrated that the new RNA labelled “SARS-CoV-2” is in fact a viral particle, with infectious capability, and that after a certain number it can lead to the development of a disease (in the current case, pneumonia) and that one might die due to this?
I’ll be waiting……
I’d stick to the virtual stalking and leave the serious stuff to us normal people, if I were you John.
Keep working at it me pretty – I believe you will get there.
Too late to edit my latest comment in the office (not that good)
So please ignore, or, listen to Peter Gibbons describing his typical day in the office in the movie ‘office space’ (which isn’t a comedy, but a documentary)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_iiOEQOtBlQ
This justifies Patreon support, IMO.
this is an interview with stefan lanka where he speaks about how even the well known measles virus does not exist. last autumn the who was active in samoa concerning an alleged measles virus outbreak. there is graphs of the deaths and timeline. they show the lockdown measures and injections coincided with the bulk of deaths whereas when the kids were in school the “highly infectious virus” did not cause deaths. there was plenty of time. the only connection was with the barbaric measures that included village leaders whipping those who went out. https://youtu.be/L24C_owM7Bk
so what happened is some kids died of the mmr. the who went there and stitched up two nurses accusing them of wrongly preparing the injections. since the kids were no longer being injected the who had organised delivery of injections and declared an outbreak once everything was in place. to sweeten the deal they promised investment. then as before the injections proved deadly but were counted as measles deaths. they had no therapy making things worse with paracetamol. tho there was no history of dairy consumption the world bank had set up dairy farms. access to affordable healthy food was a prolem. papaya had been suggested as a good source of vitamin a by wao but “antivaxxers” were attacked for suggesting the vitamin although unicef had been known to give excessive doses when injecting kids in africa.
Where’s a good link on them Samoan measles massacre?
Put a (now deleted) comment in the wrong thread… sorry.
I am normally very tolerant, and actually rather shy, but still smile, even if I think they are a complete brainwashed moron, as it seem 85% of the population are..
However, I am seriously considering putting this on my mobile phone, which is surprisingly loud, if I get serially told off for not wearing a face mask, and defend myself, by pointing this at them.
“This Is The Law of the Plague”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHSMoYXqCqg
Tony
Wait… You mean that you believe that ~1.2 billions aren’t morons?! It seems a very optimistic belief!
You really need to ask one simple question:
‘What were the money making opportunities arising from Covid19 and who stood to make lots of it as a result?’
Public officials are wrongly assumed to act in the public interest. They act in the interest of their biggest donors in the main.
You want the truth, you line up all Billy Gates’ kids and grandkids on a stage tied to chairs. You bring Billy Gates on stage and tie him to another one. You get out a Colt .45 and tell Billy Gates that every lie he tells will see a bullet go through the back of the head of one of his descendents. If he refuses to answer a question, you put a bullet through all his descendents’ heads.
But actually, that is too tough for those who say they want the truth. They would rather wail about not getting the truth.
If you want the truth you have to be prepared to kill Bill Gates to get it.
You may not end up having to do that, but unless you demonstrate that you are prepared to, the truth will never fully out.
Bill Gates is the Alpha and the Omega where this ‘Lockdown’ is concerned.
If you think you will get the truth out of State governors, think again. They are bought patsies.
Gates is the Capo di tutti Capi in this affair……
Are you attempting to incite violence?
Do you feel incited?
Specialist help is available, should you need it.
I think most of the rest of us will read it as a crude satire.
Rhys Jaggar, has got an extremely good record, so far as I can tell for not being banned. You do too actually.
Yet, I get serially banned, all over the net, and whilst I might have quoted Macbeth, I have never incited violence once, not even when someone, I actually know, threatened to beat the sh1t out of me in a dark alley. I responded a short while later, by inviting him, and his wife to a posh fish restaurant, very close to where he lived. He hadn’t met my wife, and I hadn’t met his, though he knew, that if he agreed, my wife and I would have turned up, and paid for the meal, and wouldn’t have got p1ssed, unless he and his wife invited us back to his place.
Where he lived was only about an hour in the car, but I do not drink and drive.
The moral of this story, which is true. is that while for a short while, he really hated me, for something I said, I always rather liked him.
He forgave me, though I had done nothing wrong…we still talked.
I might have called him a c’nt, but from where I come from, that can be a term of affection and camaraderie, and of course I knew what team he was one.
I was brought up as a Roman Catholic.
He wasn’t in the same class.
Tony
I too was brought up as a Roman Catholic, Tony. You are in good company.
This is tame stuff from Rhys.
Says someone in favour of child slavery.
Gates is just a receptionist for the string pullers.
They have to have one useful idiot to take all the heat.
They likely recruited Gates either through his father or as part of the antitrust settlement with Microsoft in 2001.
That’s good, the “settlement” bit. That was a David Boies affair, who also argued the Bush v. Gore case before SCOTUS, for Al, with evidently bad results (9/11, Patriot Act, WMD, ad infinitum).
Gates is a placekeeper, a pawn. A boy prince, like those ersatz royalty of the Walton Gang, or Kochs, all an accident of birth, scions of Big Accidents.
I think that much is accurate. Though a lot of bad karma, mixed in their mess of pottage.
It was the fucking Chinese bastards who ordered the lockdown. The rest of the clown college graduates just seen it as a opportunity to follow suit without the consent of the general public.
Plus this is been in the pipe line for decades
We’ve narcissistic cowards who hide behind some dufus like bill gates.
They don’t know what it’s like to be human.
It’s good to see you back Rhys. I thought the ‘rona had got you.
No, my elderly parents needed more dedicated caring, so I was putting in rather long hours. Things are more under control now, so I have a bit more time to create trouble through peaceful mouthing off…..
Informal interview, 100+ years past:
Journalist: But what of the effects of this on the Public, Mr. Vanderbilt?
Vanderbilt: “Public be damned.”
That’s most of Democracy American Style. Same then, this may just be the Gilded Age Redux.
The Gates protocol is simply another Hydra. Except this particular Hydra has an infinite number of heads. And since (at least in the US) Homeland Security supposedly bought up a billion rounds of ammo a couple years back, there may not be enough left to effectively deal with the protocol.
Better than guns and ammo: JUST SAY NO when the vaccine nazi comes to call.
I may very well be redundant in linking to this article from today’s Global Research; but it is, in my opinion, one of the best I’ve encountered so far – and something desperately needing to be said. It’s about the effect of the COVID madness on children.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sad-faces-of-our-children-in-lockdown-covid-captivity/5718058
This is the Gold Standard summary of the COVID-19 threat. Excellent.
One thing I wish was addressed is the CDC infection fatality rate (IFR) of 0.26% is not static. It was based on March data.
Because of this, IFR in NYC and other densely populated areas in the NE with unprotected elderly was probably double that. From this, you get a lower HIT- more consistent with other data.
Same thought, today the national IFR is certainly well below 0.1%, with the elderly protected and the younger people getting the virus.
Those of you familiar with UK surgeon Dr Muhammad Iqbal Adil’s views on Covid19, masks and vaccines will be interested to see that he has been suspended by the GMC for 12 months for having the audacity to voice his contrary opinion.
https://www.change.org/p/genaral-medical-council-gmc-to-revoke-12-month-suspension-on-mr-muhammad-iqbal-adil-consultant-surgeon-uk-in-relation-to-covid-19-pandemic
You make an example of those who speak out, in order to discourage others from doing the same. In America we refer to such censorship with the Orwellian term: “free speech.”
George Orwell was British.
For what it’s worth, I would urge people to sign the petition on this page.
Thanks for this appeal, Tim.
Russia: western complains of low Coronavirus clinical case fatality rate only 10-15% of what is in EU.
Russia does not think differently, she thinks logically demanding that cause of death is determined as supposed to be in all countries autopsy conducted by pathologists, not false, meaningless PCR rest.
I think it’s mainly that Russia is not in the process of committing democide against its own population. See:
https://aapsonline.org/preliminary-injunction-sought-to-release-hydroxychloroquine-to-the-public/
Preliminary Injunction Sought to Release Hydroxychloroquine to the Public
June 22, 2020
Today the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons filed its motion for a preliminary injunction to compel release to the public of hydroxychloroquine by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), in AAPS v. HHS, . . . Nearly 100 million doses of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) were donated to these agencies, and yet they have not released virtually any of it to the public.
Millions of Americans fear attending political gatherings, religious services, and even large family get-togethers without the availability of early treatment if they were to contract COVID-19. Why should Americans have to wait until they or a loved one is on a ventilator before they gain access to medication to overcome this virus?
“Why does the government continue to withhold more than 60 million doses of HCQ from the public?” asks Jane Orient, M.D., the Executive Director of AAPS. “This potentially life-saving medication is wasting away in government warehouses while Americans are dying from COVID-19.”
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See also (Zelenko Protocol):
https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/07/second-wave-not-even-close/#comment-201065
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I’ve long preferred to take my chances with this “virus” or any others, than with the Corona governors. Give me a stout bottle of oreganol and a spray bottle, and skip the cardboard cutouts of “nurses” at the entries of some markets, “Have you had your flu shot? It may be FREE with your insurance!”
Obamacare’s helped me with many things, so I wont bite the hand.
EXCEPT the odd exception of virus and vaccine.
Funny, the “exceptionalism” of all that.
Russia is a democracy.
it looks like max igans channel has been taken down after a video where he said stuff about politcians deserving to be hung and taking the gloves off. it is on his bit torrent calling media c***s. it looks like things might kick off in melbourne.
Any link for that?!
How can they when they’re all locked up ?!
it looks like a lot of people have fled. it is not safe there with criminal regime conducting psycholoogical torture and crimes against humanity. if its so easy to block people from leaving then it must have been planned into the design.
That’s shades of the 3rd Reich, with refugees having to walk out on foot over the Alps (as in that potboiler about the von Trapp’s “Sound of Music”) to elude “repatriation”.
“Strayin” for “Sound of Fascism”
Yes, you are right, the youtube one has gone. Max has been doing great work on the plandemic and has warned us repeatedly that his channel would go on youtube. Still up on Bitchute, though !
https://www.bitchute.com/profile/UdsFMYi5cpRl/
You are being deliberately obtuse if you believe the death statistics being released by the Trump administration. Excess deaths and deaths from ‘pneumonia’ will be impossible to hide for long. There is no magic pill keeping the US death rate per x cases significantly different from other wealthy countries. With Florida even hiding hospitalizations rates it is clear a massive cover up is being attempted but it is doomed to failure.
Oh, no!
Not another Dunny G ‘excess deaths’ Covid Cult preacher?
So what you seem to be saying here is that there are massive cover ups on both sides of the issue. Since the “statistics” point to opposite conclusions, one set of “statistics” must be wrong, the other right. Basically, then, we must focus not on the message but the messenger. Let’s see now: who has consistently lied to me? Was it JB Handley? or was it the government? Hmmm.
BTW, I always try and put the term “statistics” in quotation marks because it is such a spurious term which can be pulled, pushed, stretched, compressed – you name it – to fit whatever shape the messenger wishes. In other words, “statistics” are right up there with reading entrails or tea leaves.
Statistics is a branch of Mathematics.
If you say so.
“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics”.
Attributed to either American writer Mark Twain or British Prime Minister Disraeli.
I think I’ll side with the 2 memorable people quoted above, on this.
Kind of like polls. Infinitely malleable.
Or close enough.
“There’s opinions, damned opinions, and opinion polls.”
Statistics is to Mathematics as an orange is to water.
Oops!
a massive cover up is being attempted but it is doomed to failure.
Gotta hope so !
The surveillance state is profit driven. Even government security agencies are up to 70% privatized and contracted out (according to author on state security, R.L. Hill).
The capture of government by corporations is what we’re dealing with here. The result is that shareholder value demands that corporations devise ever more costly and intricate solutions for problems that don’t yet exist.
Ultimately, this is the explanation for Event Covid, leaving aside for a moment the financial meltdown that required an economic reset. Big Pharma is just one part of the corporate capture – the Military Industrial Complex being the biggest, as Eisenhower warned as far back as 1961.
Outcome Management is in fashion across industry and government – providing a ready-made mindset that is receptive to big thinking, rather than an organic approach to government in which policy is drawn up “as needed”. (The International Organization for Collaborative Outcome Management: Outcome Management is the set of activities for the planning, managing, and realizing of the desired outcomes from initiatives.)
Whole-of-Government Approach refers to the joint activities performed by diverse Ministries, Public Administrations and Public Agencies in order to provide a common solution to a particular problems or issues. (Wiki: “WGA”)
This entertaining rendering of Eisenhower’s farewell address omits, however, his crucial warning with which he closed the speech:
It’s a pity they always leave it ’til their ‘farewell speech’ to come clean about it to the public.
Smedley Butler did the same.
Smedley Butler campaigned actively around the country for the rest of hs life for socialists and anti-militarists, as I posted below.
What, he was supposed to denounce the MIC while still in the Corps?!
Good luck with that one. He was heroic throughout, by all indications.
He died pretty young in “retirement” so I think they arguably eliminated him. I dont know enough. But it’s clear he acted valiantly against the bosses by testifying –SOLO!– to their plot to eliminate FDR. And as an insider, too.
That’s daring them to assassinate him! I think they waied a few years (6?), then did just that.
Could you, or I, make that kind of stand!!?!
Give that man another Congressional Medal of Honor, as if his record two (2) aren’t enough.
Seriously!
What you say adds up pretty near, enough, to my own sum: the Koch’$ have their very own personalized, privatised intelligence agency, and as some recent total stranger told me (he claimed to have got his own nursing certification because it gives him vast legal and “extra-legal” powers as a defense in times like these) a lot of the new tech, for surveillance et al., can be bought by just about anyone with enough money (another attestation to the inherent amorality of our naked USA Capitalismo). I’m sure its a top priority for drug dealers, et al., just like hot rodders want to roll with state of the art radar detectors.
I have had enough personal experience, a multiple wake-up call, within the last 20 years, working around a number of wealthy people, especially Americans who were dual citizenship with certain affluent middle-Eastern countries (not just Israel) who clearly were subcontracting out to “official” Intel, as far as I could gather.
What I add is somewhat groping around in their dark, but pretty clear clues. Of substance.
There is so much evidence of not just total capture of our governments, but like the birthday cake image of Cuba in The Godfather, they are just carving up different size slices of USA. With us, our lives, embedded in those slices.
And plugged into the atrocity of global mafia affiliates (perhaps the definition of NWO?)
There’s not just one medical coup d’état going on, but privatised slices of that by many, varying slices of that birthday cake.
That kind of fire sale of our country has been going on since Reagan, and not a very sunny thing, pretty dark: rights and privileges for sale, wherever and however their money may have been laundered.
Trump is the first full-fledged Mafia Prez, not an outsider (perhaps an outsider on the Beltway, but not of Mob back rooms, that Swamp) because the capi, & their capo dei tutti capi, want him as their bought Mobster M.C. to be the Reality TV auctioneer for this. He is moderating this massive “fraud”.
The Covid Charade is all just window dressing. What else?
But we’re all hostages. Nothing that new, just an extension of old times.
This must be what led the most highly decorated Marine ever, General Smedley D. Butler, to retire and speak publicly and campaign around the country for all socialist candidates, “Old Gimlet Eye” who wrote ‘War is a Racket” in which he stated he was the ranking officer all his career just as hired “muscle for American Big Business interests”.
I believe him, and also he didn’t make it out of his fifties, so there’s that.
Its a grim system, and God have Mercy.
Just a thought, what if… we didn’t have the PCR test.
Just as well those highly sensitive PCR tests are highly accurate, highly specific, test for live viruses, are calibrated against a gold standard test, provide a binary and consistent positive/negative result independent of the number of cycles the lab runs and the reagents they use. All cross-checked against the subject displaying the specific symptoms associated with C-19.
Oh hang on…
Remind me again where the press is on this?
you ain’t kiddin’: https://fort-russ.com/2020/06/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/
excess mortality is not caused by a virus but by belief in a virus. therfore the only factor that can stop escalation of waves is when everyone is dead or the instigators of the terror campaign decide enough damage has been done at which point they claim herd immunity has been acheived. this is to protect the belief in viruses for future attacks. the solution is to disspell the virus myth by promoting real health measures like social closening, detox, sun exposure, pursuing healthy goals. the covid cult are a bunch of loser terrorists. it is important we move on.
https://home.solari.com/
I have just read an article on RT.com about mass graves in Brazil to bury people who have died of covid19. https://www.rt.com/news/486560-brazil-covid-19-mass-graves-manaus/ Worldometers show 315 covid deaths per million in Brazil, better than many countries, and a huge number of cases, despite apparent lack of testing. Bolsonaro himself has tested positive, but is following the hydroxychloroquine treatment and says he feels much better. Does anybody know the true covid19 situation in Brazil?
Those graves just like the ones the media showed you in NY are for the poor and for those that have nobody to bury them or will. They’ve been doing it for decades if not centuries.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/media-lies-shocking-reports-mass-graves-covid-19-victims-bronx-play-fact-use-150-years/
Thanks. I was sure it must be something like that, as in Spain and Italy, but I didn’t know where to get the information. The MSM really don’t want Bolsoaro, who I understand is resisting lockdown, to come out of this well.
Like all the graves in Africa of AIDS victims?
“2 + 2 = 5” AT THE CHESTNUT TREE CAFE
In Orwell’s novel 1984 O’Brien wants to convince Winston two plus two equals five.
It’s obvious O’Brien is not concerned with the correctness of this mathematical equation,
but is only interested in manipulating Winton’s beliefs in order to secure obedience. In other words, state-run mainstream media news is NOT interested in the truth–they’re only interested in maintaining power by psychologically controlling their audience.
Mainstream media news spent months terrifying the public about COVID-19 and are very reticent to emphasize the declining fatality rates or to analyze their actual significance. This is because cable news has NOT finished milking the COVID-19 hysteria, at least not until election day and even then it all depends on the agenda the security state is determined to advance.
Most of the public is suffering from “Pandemic Traumatic Shock Syndrome.” They’ve been so traumatized by mainstream media news it would take an intense amount of reindoctrination to eliminate their COVID-19 phobia. The psychological scars of Pandemic Traumatic Shock Syndrome are deep, so to ease the fear it would require a lot of “reverse bullshitting.” The good news for pharmaceutical companies is they can make billions selling H20 vaccines and say they’re a COVID-19 elixir. In fact, that’s probably what”s occurring right now the intelligence agencies are designing ways to channel the “COVID fear” into methods which benefit the security state and all its ancillary associations. The outcome of the November presidential election will determine the future COVID-19 narrative………..
“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four.”
Exactly. Telling the truth is now a violation of “YouTube’s Community Guidelines,” so one of Doris Loh’s videos about the multifaceted way that the COVID-19 virus attacks the immune system was removed, even though in her video she supported her claims with peer reviewed papers published in medical journals. Why? Because it was contrary to the prevailing narrative so obediently followed by the panicked masses.
YouTube is controlled by the NSA.
That’s messed up if you can’t even post contrarian truthful graphs on Youtube. Rename it BigBrotherTube.
YouTube moderators are especially scrutinizing about COVID-19 data which contradicts the official narrative.
Wot, Mossad getting flabby?
I went looking for Doris Loh and her thoughts on COVID-19 on the Interweb and ended up on a very long, very impressive page authored by her (weighty annotations, citations and all) that I read until I got to two graphs comparing in vivo properties of, respectively, ascorbic acid (isomeric form unspecified) and sodium L-ascorbate. However the graphs had no keys for the plotting symbols, in any of the nearby (particularly the preceeding) adjacent text, the graphics or the captions, to enable quick and easy differentiation of the plots of the two substances. At that point I broke off and fed the cat then watched some Sheeple TV. At least with both the cat and Sheeple TV you know where you are.
P(re-emptive).S. I am one of those who largely subscribes to Linus Pauling’s basic Vitamin C hypotheses, so quit yer bitchin’.
Except I go for as much natural (v synthetic) content as possible, and as much of that from limes (to maximize the Vitamin A content) as possible, as an adjunct to an as far as possible natural-source variant of the AREDS2 formula.
The video I referenced gave detailed explanations of some complicated biochemical processes used by the immune system to attack an invading pathogen. In particular, Macrophages convert ascorbic acid into nitric oxide, which they then use to destroy pathogens with “oxidative bursts,” so an ample supply of ascorbic acid is very beneficial in fighting off COVID-19. Another key issue is the extremely low blood oxygen that is seen in critical cases, which is caused by the way COVID-19 attacks red blood cells. Doris Loh’s explanations are very complicated but
thorough, and accompanied by graphic slides, so what I did was pause the screen shots of the video at certain points in order to absorb what she was saying. Even then I often had to go back and do it again because I’d lost my train of thought in trying to follow her clear, but complicated, exposition. Every now and then I’d give my brain a rest by playing with my cat Rudy.
I’ll do an internet search to see if it, or some other variant of it, exists in the digital ether.
P.S. Rudy looks like a Russian Blue but has a nub instead of a tail, which is a Manx characteristic, so he is officially a “Russian Blue Manx.”
I found another link for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9uPyV_cBLg
The only difference is that it has Italian subtitles but the sound track is in English.
Videos are OK, but a bit like lectures were before mini recorders were around. Lots of unconsidered bits even with the best note taking. Now, with recorders it’s easy to rewind 30 seconds or so and that’s better but, for me, still very time inefficient. To really get a good line on an hour’s recorded lecture of a dense subject usualy takes me five to ten hours of shuffling the medium to listen to some of the more difficult sections up to a dozen or more times, excluding the time needed to cross-reference and collate different parts of the subject across the entire recording. So I looked for a good approximation of same subject in print. For me, transcriptions cut the time needed to get a reasonably reliable assessment of technical subjects to 1/4 or less of the time taken to pick it up from a verbal presentation and a well prepared paper can be twice or more as efficient as that. Cat is very impatient and she prefers print as well.
All your points are well taken but, unfortunately, the body’s biochemical processes are too complex to be condensed or abstracted, and trying to do so in this particular situation may result in explanations which are not much better than what can be found in the Main Stream Media. I am biochemically illiterate because of a poor background in chemistry, which I blame on my awful chemistry teacher in High School, whose robotic, uninspired presentations resulted in my avoiding chemistry in college. Because of this deficit, I have concentrated on getting an understanding of those processes which related only to a few key issues, including vitamins, hypoxia and chloroquine. My cat Rudy has a very calming effect on me except when he occasionally decides to take a stroll across my laptop keyboard when I am engrossed in the internet.
yes, if that is allowed all else follows.
but people need to be re-indoctrinated or reverse bullshitted??
Surely you mean educated and informed of the truth?
Whatever………
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/bubonic-plague-mongolia-china-authorities-on-high-alert-after-outbreak/news-story/626a02b718a6fedb1fcdb399cd0fc490
One hunter ate a wild rabbit and got the plague? That’s an outbreak? Time to shut down the concentrated animal farm operations pronto. This is where the zoonotic diseases are spreading from animal to human.
I even saw it reported on a Turkish TV channel.
Panicking about it is even more bizarre than panicking about Covid-19 – the latter at least appears to be new, with some mysterious features, and the unknown is always a little worrying. Bubonic plague has been around for many centuries, has few mysteries and can now be treated.
Bubonic Plague is easily treatable today with common medications. This is literally a non-story.
It’s not new. There’s always cases here and in there in Mongolia in particular since they eat marmot.
May 2019: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48182646
Nov 2019: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-plague/chinas-inner-mongolia-reports-fresh-bubonic-plague-case-idUSKBN1XR09K
and so on… Media is trying to surf the wave right now.
I even saw a statement from the WHO praising China’s job in the handling of those new cases.
Yes you are right looks like the fleas are back.
Thank you for the incredible amount of work and analysis in this article.
In a small West Texas town we are now being given unsigned edits from the reverse 911 system. These edits, one of which states that we must show a medical letter to receive a medical exemption from mask wearing, does not even appear in the TX governor’s order itself. ( “If you are seeking a medical exception, please have a doctor’s note at hand.”–this is not in the order.)
In the same reverse 911 we are further told: “Numerous studies have shown the wearing of face coverings when in public to be one of the most effective ways to slow the spread of COVID-19 and still allow businesses to remain open. Yes, they are inconvenient and uncomfortable if worn for a long period of time, but if worn properly, they do not pose a health risk to the wearer.”
All this in a county of 4 cases, mind you.
The fanatics will tell you the reason you’ve got four cases is the harsh imprisonment, official threats, mask decrees, etc. It’s a neat circle.
Reg, you are so correct! Ironically, we just started getting the second wave of draconian measures via reverse 911 recently. Meanwhile, communities around us with already in place second wave draconian measures have many more cases. All this would argue against the effectiveness of the draconian measures but I’m sure they’ll be some way to “make that work” 🙂
There is no damn virus. Knock it off with these bs articles already.
Could you or somebody clarify on this point? It is continually being made here in the comments section. So, when a person is tested at positive this is NOT for a covid 19 virus? It is for what then? Pneumonia, flu, severe cold but being called covid 19?
Sorry to be confused on this. Please explain further. Just what are we talking about that constitutes this sickness? Because people are obviously getting sick with something. What should it be called?
That’s correct, Aldous. It’s a rebranding of anything as CV. You could have a heart attack and they’d put you down as a CV casualty. You could die of alcohol poisoning and you’d be listed as a CV casualty. You could have the flu, a cold, pneumonia, whatever and they list you as a CV carrier. The data is fed into a machine and it spits out magic numbers for the TV and newspapers. Then they wield the figures like a club and beat you into submission.
Okay, and thanks, Reg. Then it is not a distinct illness, as with an unusually rogue form of flu this year, much worse than the usual flu of the year in the past? This suggests that all testing services are not identifying a specific disease form that could be called covid 19, but generalizing any illness whatever and calling it covid-19.
There is a lot of confusion on this point. Or at least I am confused. I have been inclined to think there is something called covid 19 that is more virulent than the flu usually, a severe round of it, but not sufficently threatening to lead to the draconian consequences we’ve seen.I personally know of a person very ill with pneumonia-like symptoms and called Covid 19. But that is pneumonia of a certain type, not the covid 19 virus? I realize such people are distinctly in the minority as threatened.
This view that there is something rogue going on (which the medical establisment is very confused and inept with) would be a different interpretation from there is no such virus whatever, and any old illness or medical problem is being called covid 19.
I would like to hear more on this distinction, more explanation, since it is being asserted so often here in these pages. Are both interpretations possible? The problem with there is no virus theory is that it impugns entire medical departments as corrupted into mislabeling illness(es). I think this problem must be dealt with. What do we have (as with links) on the there is no virus thesis from expert opinions and research? (I could have missed these.)
Again,the there is no virus theory contrasts with there is something, and it’s nasty, but it’s not that much worse than the usual flu-type illnesses, and is being appropriated for political purposes. Thanks for the feedback, and corrections welcomed.
If these were normal times, the person you know who is ill might have been diagnosed with pneumonia if they showed pneumonia-like symptoms. Their physician would presumably have taken a cool, calm, professional look at the patient and suggested some measures. A transaction between just the two of them, as it should be.
Unfortunately we live in evil times where critical thinking has been junked. It has been replaced with fear, panic and consensus thinking. Your friend is under pressure to be frightened that they’ll die and their doctor is encouraged to bin any knowledge they’ve ever accumulated because the media and the medical establishment have decreed it. If, for example, your friend gets relief from high-dosage vitamin C, the establishment would come down like a ton of bricks on this act of heresy. The doctor with doubts about the narrative would quickly find themselves vilified and persecuted.
There is an agenda with a lot of tentacles. Your friend is a victim of it. In this climate, if they are living under terror, their mind might actually persuade the body to react accordingly.
We need a return to sanity but that’s the last thing the fear spreaders want. They want to destroy our ability to fight.
My understanding is that a coronavirus, a genre which includes colds, flu strains and viral pneumonia, has been experimented with in numerous laboratories in the U.S. and China, whether in order to know how to combat an outbreak if used as a bioweapon, or simply to develop a vaccine against it, no-one is saying. The experimentation includes what is known as ‘gain of function’ which means the virus has been manipulated, something added to it, to make it much more infectious than the normal flu.
flu isnt caused by a virus either. it is like claiming it is caused by a fever. it is also not a disease but a detox.
it is caused by eating crap like dairy products. no wonder the injections they promote dont prevent flu. the virus has nothing to do with it other than being used as a decoy to keep people sick.
Huxley, I don’t know if you have encountered this link, it was helpful to me :
https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf
How an illusion of a new disease can be created out of many usual phenomena? This article clarifies :
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/05/jon-rappoport/the-pandemic-pattern-how-the-illusion-is-built
Still, it is true that there may indeed be something special, nasty, with flu-like symptoms, and appropriated for political purposes.
Thank you for these links.
From the first ( extensive scientific analysis):
Conclusion:
The coronavirus panic is just that, an irrational panic, based on an unproven RNA test, that has never been connected to a virus. And which won’t be connected to a virus unless the virus is purified.
Furthermore, even if the test can detect a novel virus the presence of a virus is not proof that it is the cause of the severe symptoms that some people who test positive experience (but not all who test positive).
Finally, even if the test can detect a virus and is dangerous, we do not know what the rate of false positives is. And even a 1% false positive rate could produce 100,000 false positive results just in a city the size of Wuhan and could mean that a significant fraction of the positive test results being found are false positives.
The use of powerful drugs because doctors are convinced that they had a particularly potent virus on their hands, especially in older people, with pre-existing health conditions, is likely to lead to many deaths.
As with SARS. There is very little science happening. There is a rush to explain everything that is happening in a way that does not question the viral paradigm, does not question the meaninfulness of test results, and that promotes the use of untested antiviral drugs. And, given enough time there will be a vaccine developed and, for some of the traumatized countries, it may become mandatory, even if developed after the epidemic has disappeared, so that proving that it reduces the risk of developing a positive test will be impossible.
From Appendix A: Confusing Test Results (of 45 such confusing results)
May 8) 5 sailors aboard US aircraft carrier “Roosevelt” tested positive for coronavirus a second time. John Swartzberg, a UC Berkeley infectious disease expert was quoted as saying, “This is not behaving like any infectious disease I have heard of, if thease tests are accurate. None of this makes any sense.”
May 18) 33,000 Floridians may have received positive RNA results when they were negative, or negative results when they were positive, or no results at all, due to incompetence by a contractor.
https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf
From the second link (by Jon Rapoport):
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This article is based on my study and investigation of so-called epidemics over the past 30 years.
In the case of COVID-19, I’ve written at least one piece covering, in detail, each main element of the illusion. Here, I’m laying out the pattern. It is the same for each fake epidemic.
ONE: A structure is in place to promote and launch the IDEA of an epidemic. World Health Organization, CDC, influential public health officials attached to governments around the world, etc.
TWO: There is a purported incident. An outbreak. The most obvious cause is intentionally overlooked. For example, horrendous air pollution, or the grotesque feces and urine pollution on a giant commercial pig factory-farm. Instead, the world is told a new virus has been found. Local researchers, if any, are augmented by researchers from CDC, WHO.
THREE: There is no air-tight chain of evidence explaining exactly how the purported new virus was discovered. From details released, there is no proof of discovery by convincing methods, no proper unified study of MANY supposed epidemic patients.
FOUR: But WHO/CDC tells the world this is an epidemic in the making, caused by the new virus. The promotion and propaganda/media apparatus moves into high gear. Ominous pronouncements.
FIVE: Diagnostic tests for the unproven new virus are rolled out. They spit out false “proof” of “infection” like coins from a jackpot slot machine.
SIX: Thus, all case numbers and death numbers, which are based on the tests, are rendered meaningless. And…they were already meaningless, because the supposed new virus “being tested for” was never properly discovered in the first place.
SEVEN: Nevertheless, these tests (plus useless eyeball diagnosis) are used to build official reports on case numbers. For the duration of the “epidemic,” reports keep coming, and escalating numbers are trumpeted. Within the basically meaningless structure of these reports, there is fiddling with totals, to make them even more impressive and frightening.
EIGHT: Real people are really getting sick and dying, but for the most part, they are people who are dying from traditional and long-standing conditions—flu-like illness, pneumonia, other lung infections, etc. These people are “re-packaged” under the new epidemic label—Swine Flu, COVID, etc. The official description of the “new epidemic disease”—the clinical symptoms—is sufficiently general to easily allow this re-packaging.
NINE: If there is new illness, it can be explained by causes having
nothing to do with the purported new virus. For example, a toxic vaccine campaign. A highly destructive drug. Highly toxic pesticides.
TEN: Over time, the definition of the epidemic is arbitrarily widened to include more symptoms and clinical features, in order to inflate case numbers.
ELEVEN: Control of information about the “epidemic” is hardened at the top. The talking heads, from the press and public health agencies, know as much about actual science as rabbits know about drone strikes. But they are “in charge.” Dissident information is attacked and censored.
TWELVE: Medical drugs used to treat patients are toxic. If a vaccine is rolled out, it, too, is toxic. Illness and death resulting from these and other medical attacks are counted as “epidemic cases caused by the virus.”
THIRTEEN: ABOVE ALL OTHER ILLUSIONS, the main deception is: “the epidemic is one disease or syndrome caused by one germ.” This is sold with unceasing propaganda. Most people fall for it. They will even argue among themselves about which “it” is the single cause of the “it” disease. There is no “it” cause or disease.
FOURTEEN: The public is sold lie after lie about contagion and the “spread” of the “it.”
FIFTEEN: The public chants (as if no one has ever died before), “People are dying, it must be the virus.”
SIXTEEN: The virus fairy tale always functions as a cover story for government or corporate or medical crimes. It obscures and hides these crimes. For example, a large factory is spewing horrendous pollution into the ground and water of an area, and people are getting sick and dying? No, the cause is actually a new virus no one has ever seen before.
As I wrote at the outset of the COVID illusion, the only difference this time, in 2020, is the weight of the lies—because they led to the lockdowns and the economic devastation. This is West Nile, SARS, Swine Flu, Zika, writ large.
Needless to say, the persons and groups responsible for launching these illusion-operations must hide their crimes.
The criminals have their weapons, of course. Among their most powerful: control of the press, and arcane technical language which pretends to relevance. This language is so dense, the uninitiated stand no chance of penetrating it.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/05/jon-rappoport/the-pandemic-pattern-how-the-illusion-is-built/
More at Rappoport’s blog:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com
I think the question is: does the virus SARS Cov2 lead one-to-one to covid19? The illness that manifests as what they call covid19 has many different symptoms while the PCR test detects the presence of molecules of SARS Cov2 which is not the same thing as detecting the presence of illness. As Dr Ioannidis said in an interview put up on the Off Guardian site, if you have symptoms of covid19 and a positive test for SARS Cov2 then the chances are you have covid19. Fair enough. Whether it manifests as a mild flu or pulmonary embolism, which is the most severe form, must depend on your age, general state of health, immune system, vaccine status and other factors. This conclusion is also borne out by the fact that many people have no symptoms despite a positive test.
Many thanks to all who responded below/above. This is the way to do it, via calm and friendly discussion amongst people interested in getting to the bottom of what’s going on.
Cheers, mates!
No need to be confused Aldous – just look up some of the stream of articles here and my and a few others comments and links to get past the confusing bs.
The virus is real.
It is the seventh such virus type that is recognised as having crossed to humans.
It causes a range of not yet wholly understood attacks on different cells in the body and responses by the body – collectively classed as Covid disease illnesses.
It is still to early to know all that the virus does and how and how to deal with it in humans who’s immune systems can’t effectively deal with it and can become ill enough to need hospitalisation and die.
But plenty of knowledge is being learned.
It is not a flu or cold or any other disease caused by the other six such virus types AND their evolving strains, even though there are similar symptoms (e.g pneumonia)
The EXCESS DEATHS which are recorded AFTER the usual FLU spikes are as clear a piece of evidence that the new Corona virus emerged and spread.
All else is bluster and smoke and mirrors by the DS and global robber barons and their full spectrum media whores and trolls, who wish to use the pandemic for their usual purposes – they have a long standing system of ‘Not letting any crisis go to waste’ to further THEIR long standing plans.
You’re welcome!
Hasn’t met Koch postulates so it’s as about as real as the tooth fairy
Koch refers to bacteria not viruses as I have explained before.
Furthermore, in relation to quasispecies in highly-mutable RNA viruses (and particularly some later elaborations of that concept), short of very significant modifications, Koch’s original postulates CANNOT be meaningfully applied (and possibly not even in low mutation rate viruses or those, such as SARS-CoV-2, that embody error-connection mechanisms).
Most of the dimmer wits in this COVID-19 series, both A and B TL, argue not from any understood virological or epidemiological standpoint, nor from any real consideration of societal v medical risk management, nor even from a partly thought-through standpoint of political fascism, but rather from an extroardinarily self-centred id-driven personal fascism (see #Me-Me and antisocial media #foot-stamping).
Ha ha. Seems you weren’t “calm and friendly” enough the first time round.
P.S. Have you noticed that all around the world, in countries where lockdowns were imposed or not imposed, were too strict or too lax, were lifted too soon or too late, governments are being taken to task or sued for not acting differently. What intelligent, so-besieged government would not enter bilateral agreements with all other such afflicted governments to round up all of their particular side-thorns and exile them forever to jurisdictions with a more appropriate COVID-19 response for the particular dissension being expressed in their own?
what is known is harmful effects of terror, poor diet, chemicals, staying indoors, social isolation, cellphone radiation, medical treatments etc.
“It is the seventh such virus type that is recognised as having crossed to humans.”
There is no scientific proof that any virus has jumped from animal to human.
It’s only a hypothesis.
Riiiighhhtttt – were did you get your license to practice – same place as the author?
Today I read in a local newspaper, coming from a supposedly enlightened area north of San Francisco, a plastering on of second wave alarmism, duplication of wave 1 in techniques. It’s all very general again, avoidance of particularizing or defining.
Very little attention is being paid to the notion that all these new positive cases are actually a good sign, especially in terms of those testing positive and not showing symptoms. This is indication their own immune systems are dealing with the problem and that herd immunity is growing. Also, the false notion that they are dangerous “carriers” has been debunked.
So to this newspaper’s front page screaming headline which notes NEW DEATH. Turns out the total now, and from an elderly patient’s dying, is 12. That’s 12 in nearly four months. The neighboring county where I live has just registered only 1 death in four months. A graph supplied in the interior pages indicates 54,800 tests as of last Monday; 1,466 positive results (3%) and 53,300 negative results (97%). Below that the total hospitalized during the pandemic is 73.
For this kind of problem, as described in MSM terms, authorities following on with the Governor, have abrogated constitutional rights, shut down numerous small businesses, followed by affecting customer relations and lowering the numbers on re-opening; shut down other businesses completely; caused significant stress as indicated by the rise of problems in suicides, homelessness, spouse abuse, child abuse, and mental disorder generally not as yet in the news.
The word mesmerize means “hold the attention of someone to the exclusion of all else so as to transfix them.” This as a technique to control a population has been very successful.
The word originates with Franz Mesmer, writing on a theory that all people and objects are drawn together by magnetic force, which came to be called mesmerism. Herd behavior and group-think appear related.
A synonym for the word mesmerize is hypnotize; and to be hypnotized is very close to the word rapt as in fixated or obsessed. Macbeth, for example, was “rapt” with the notion he could become king by murdering Macduff, hence to his ruinous obsession. He could not stop himself from becoming a psychopath. Fixated; obsessed; mesmerized.
The key word facilitating the fixation appears to be death. Avoiding it is a first rule of self-preservation, including following orders.
What amazes me is that people read the newspaper I refer to above, but do not say:
“Whaat? I thought the problem was serious! This was their solution to an ordinary person’s chance of getting a serious illness? Why? What’s going on?”
I think we have to keep asking these questions . . .
terror makes people sick by wearing down the adrenal glands. if people watch and believe in a “deadly virus” then bigger and bigger waves can be generated as real health factors are eroded. anyone spreading this propaganda is nothing more than a genocidal terrorist.
Have you, personally ever been in (actually geographically in the midst of) or close to an epidemic caused by a “deadly virus” of completely unknown or largely unknown nature, where large numbers of people were, more or less inexplicably, getting critically ill all around you and a high or very high proportion of those were dying? I very much doubt it, but feel free to correct me.
What was the article about? A new onslaught of Soviet Communism?
There are some people who believe this situation will continue on into 2021. Plans for a large gathering in the desert Southwest USA in January 2021, have people talking about social distancing, etc.
Hive minds.
Really Off-G ?
First time the author is published here, who is a known fabricator of his own debunked theory of Autism being caused by vaccines?
Who has just found a whole new snake oil pitch?
Well – if the site wants to be tarred by the same brush – it is sad, if not surprising anymore.
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Anyway – first take on the chart laden ‘revelations’ of the self promoting charlatan – that final ‘graph’ is indeed the most instructive.
Note the gap between infection rate and death rate. I agree that is pretty accurate based on U.K. stats.
Using the Excess Total Deaths (not COVID deaths) and applying the gap shows that about a month before ‘flattening and peak’ is when infections peaked. Everyone agree?
What happened about a month before the peak in Excess Deaths?
Anyone? Hmmm?
Yes there was THE ‘lockdown’ – which consisted of physical distancing by the closure of many daily random interactions.
Which INSTANTLY reduced the infection rates.
QED.
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The 20% vs the 60% infection rate that is introduced is interesting and I await the greater research and analyses and conclusions about it.
The fact that ALL epidemics follows the Farr ‘curve’ is well known.
The POINT is to flatten the curve. Which happened.
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As for his use of Sweden – I am happy to SHOUT the criticism he ‘predicts’.
COMPARE IT TO ITS NEIGHBOURS. Why doesn’t he?
Otherwise it is a vacuous example.
That Sweden has more EXCESS DEATHS than its 3 nearest countries COMBINED is a fact that cannot be swept under the carpet.
Can it?
Mostly distractions and presuppositions. Seemingly, that is your purpose here. So good job. This all starts with scientific proof a virus called sars cov2 exists. Everything else is noise. Please provide links to such research.
I have provided plenty – look them up yourself by typing it into a search engine, you lazy ?
I put this in the search box:
scientific proof a virus called sars cov2 exists
No ‘proof’ of any sort appears.
Plenty of ‘theories’, ‘opinions’, ‘speculations’ etc. A clear money earner for copywriters, editors, reporters, and of course, the ever present MSM ‘experts’.
But no ‘scientific proof’, at all.
I put the same search term in and this is the newest article I came across
https://www.globalhealthnow.org/2020-02/coronavirus-expert-reality-check
Which even has this pretty picture in it.
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I take it you will jostle your way to the head of the queue for the new vaccine for this brand-new disease?
Wouldn’t touch a vaccine with a barge pole Reg as I have long said.
Good ol’ Dunnycan, as reliable as ever. 🤣
Happy to fertilise the starved and feeble minds back to healthy thinking. 😉
Belgium, UK, Spain and Italy have more deaths per million and locked down severely. So lock downs never worked there?
Taiwan never locked down and they have only 0.3 deaths per million? And they are next door to China? Go figure.
They worked. Even when they were late.
Self quarantine isn’t the only thing that is required. Testing and tracking is too.
You and the author also seem to completely ignore Germany – WHY?
You said the magic word: “debunked,” as in “his own debunked theory of autism being caused by vaccines.” Debunked is kind of like a stone cold killer diller virus in that it is something pieced together on the fly.
If I cannot disprove what someone proposes, I will “debunk” it. There, problem solved. Next?
Debunk verb to expose the falseness of a proposition.
“In Sweden, Will Voluntary Self-Isolation Work Better Than State-Enforced Lockdowns in the Long Run?
“There’s a lot of debate over the Swedish model of coronavirus response, but there are good reasons to think a Hippocratic approach to policy may pay off.
JOHAN NORBERG | 4.17.2020 11:50 AM
“Sweden reports the number of people who die with COVID-19, not of COVID-19.
“Even in a culturally and geographically similar country like Norway—celebrated for its low death rate—they do things differently. The Norwegians only count something as a COVID-19 death if a doctor concludes that someone was killed by the disease and decides to report it to the country’s public health authority.”
https://reason.com/2020/04/17/in-sweden-will-voluntary-self-isolation-work-better-than-state-enforced-lockdowns-in-the-long-run/?utm_medium=email
Infection rates, backward-looking indicator by 5-10 days, peaked right @ lockdown. Meaning lockdowns were useless. Publicly available data & known since end of March. Please explain how lockdowns caused an effect that preceeded them?
Also, data can be interpreted to show lockdowns as causing the death spike. Countries/States that locked down nearly all saw death spikes, while those that didn’t mostly did not. Very strong correlation.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341832637_All-cause_mortality_during_COVID-19_No_plague_and_a_likely_signature_of_mass_homicide_by_government_response
Mass homicide by gov response. 3 words I don’t ever want to hear but know are coming. Abundance of caution. Meaning sorry we crapped the global economy for a generation & created mass panic, starvation, mental illness for a bad flu season.
The core issue here being that this article, like so many like it, validates, via a huge presupposition, that sars2 is the virus causing the disease covid-19. This provides the rational, not to mention plausible deniability, for the preposterous, draconian and possibly illegal measures taken by government (and their sponsors). We can’t give a mother f-ing inch on the critical presupposition that sars2 is the cause without scientific proof of existence and that this was all one big benevolent mistake by the powers that should’nt be. I’am not a lawyer but is this not a potencial field day on a legal front given the carnage that is currently being attributed to covid which may actually be the direct result of the policies not some seemingly contrived disease.
Pushback on the presence of a Covid-19 virus has begun : https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/the-coronavirus-act-2020/?utm_source=backer_social&utm_campaign=the-coronavirus-act-2020&utm_reference=076bcc354f4bb5833b456bb67e109999&utm_medium=email&utm_content=post_pledge_page&fbclid=IwAR0hgr8HMkJShSa1jmnhacJsMAO59ofs90aQFqdZafS5SXZAgFqaSQDiNQQ
Rappoport on religious zealotry
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/07/07/my-investigation-of-covid-19/
If terrorists really hate us for our freedom, shouldn’t it just be a mild dislike by now?
That one didn’t work, did it! This “virus” has been far more effective than “Islamic terrorists wanting to wipe us out”. All those “execution” videos . . . sigh. We simply refused to cower in fear. Now they’ve got us exactly where they want us.
it did work it invaded 7 countries and got the invaders back home to call the invaded terrorists!
and the last several years of mind warped has been selling this to everyone and failed conspiracy turned theorists all jump in bed mind warped with the politician establishments sucking GOP..
every cycle they repeat as people forget and new generation gets mind warped and the old gate keepers get medicated of and repeat
there will be a new disgruntled party set up and repeat.
The new terrorists are now the non muzzle wearers and non inoculated and CV deniers.
the mind control has been built up and trump bojo GOP is a huge apart of it
as mentioned i have never seen politicians as pop stars hero as i have today from people
and only the buildup of brainwashing traumas fairy tales and invasion of peoples deep state of the subconscious does that
also newly called Stockholm syndrome
War with yet another abstraction. Whereas, this one, however, an abstraction of someone’s imagination. The tactical advantages this time round being the enemy can be anywhere at anytime, with morphing political attack vetors. And the surveillance of all communication. They can throw out a narrative and likely gauge it’s efficacy in real-time. As it wanes throw out another, rinse and repeat.
As this article points out, and most thinking people already know well, the authorities and the majority media keep moving the goal posts, to justify the unjustifiable, to keep spreading fear and keep locking people up in various ways including to many the most objectionable of all (as it applies to everyone nearly), insisting we have to have muzzles on our faces for the protection of other people with or without muzzles on their faces, as if we were all dangerous dogs.
So though I feel very strongly it is necessary for the sane minority amongst medical, science or journalist professionals who had at least some level of public voice, to keep putting forth rational analyses as above, exposing to the nth degree if necessary the baseless as well as thoroughly undemocratic nature of the Draconian measures imposed on the public, it is clear that the various authorities, including the media perhaps above all, are wilfully ignoring all commonsense and reason, and the $64 trillion (as this disaster is likely to cost that much, or even more) question is why they are doing so, why they so wilfully refuse to listen to all reason, and seem to be acting like they are suffering from some genuine mania type clinical psychiatric level (involuntary restraint and forcible tranquilising medicine advisable) mental illness.
Are they really as insane as they appear to be, or simply stupid?
Or on the other hand are they wicked, enjoying inflicting human misery and suffering, or even fiendishly clever, so have some self-benefiting plan that works out well amidst this chaos?
It would take a lot of analysis to deal with the above questions in full, as undoubtedly there are a large number of hidden agendas and motives involved amongst the numerous publicly visible (as well as invisible) “players” involved in this game or mess.
But my best guess is that what we are mostly seeing is a war between politicians and the media, and it’s mostly in the US between President Trump and the PC media – i.e. they are willing to go to any lengths to use this covid-19 scam to get rid of him – and in the UK, about half the media are trying to get rid of Boris Johnson, once again the PC obsessed part, and the other half are mostly trying to stop him carrying out Brexit, the UK’s democratic vote to leave the EU, which of course is a nationalist, anti-globalisation vote also.
So in fact, my guess is that the governments aren’t generally speaking trying to wilfully imprison the public, but are being bullied into it by a media that is trying to prove it controls the public better than the government does, and is making a pretty convincing case to prove that it does.
Governments are mainly appointed by the media collectively speaking, and so the election of President Trump and the Brexit vote, and the general protests against mass immigration and destruction of national identity that the public are voting against in most of the West, are in defiance of the media, more than the government.
Bearing in mind of course most of the media is either owned or controlled by various rich elites – not necessarily all collaborating with each other, but mostly sharing the same views and aims – they love globalisation, because it enables them to stop unions and get unlimited cheap labour from poor desperate immigrants who will work for nearly no pay and under any unfair or unscrupulous conditions the big bosses want to impose on them, such as zero hour contracts which give employees no security and little pay in most cases.
So it’s very much about the media, and its owners/bosses trying to overturn democracy, opposing the Brexit vote and the election of President Trump, and of course the PC non-private media, like the UK’s despicable Guardian, with its “anti-white male” obsession, opposes Johnson, Trump and Brexit for the same reasons.
It failed to win the votes and elections, so now it seeks to impose its will by the most relentless propaganda, whether it’s on covid-19 or the BLM protests.
Its enemy is not so much the government, but the public, who dared to defy its commands and demands to vote as it deemed right.
So it gleefully ridicules them and demands ever more Draconian punishment of the public for defying its dictates – so that is, it’s the rich and/or privileged persons who own the media or edit or staff it in the case of the Guardian and BBC, who do not remotely represent the public majority, but on the contrary have utter contempt for them.
I saw a recent comment on the reopening of the pubs in the UK that the “PC people” who mostly oppose reopening the pubs consider this as “the thick racists (who voted Brexit or for Boris Johnson or President Trump) are being allowed out to get drunk again.”
It is the greatest irony that these PC people imagine they are the brightest most enlightned people on the planet, when quite frankly, they are in most cases some of the most stupid.
And it is that arrogant delusion that will eventually will bring them down, as they will crash and burn due to their own stupidity, which in fact is now being revealed despite their current temporary revelry in having got control of most of the media and government by relentlessly manipulating and propaganda.
Yes, they are very good at the latter indeed, just not good at anything that really matters in life, like being able to design or fix a computer or car, or milk a cow, or build a house, etc, etc – these people would still be living in caves were it not for their shameless exploitation of the rest of us who possess real brains and talent, and without whom the modern world as it currently exists would disintegrate in every way.
They sit proud, privileged and pontificating in their offices (either media or political) and benefit from the vast hard work of people who actually know how to do things, or even are brave enough (which they are not) to fight in their stupid, needless and disastrous wars, and have not only not a word of thanks for the people who really make the world go round, but on the contrary have absolute contempt for them, and now act to make their lives utterly unlivable.
We have to keep going, keep creating our own alternative honest media, until it replaces the fraud that passes for it now.
The arrogance and delusional is what the the enemy of the people want us to be.
Never question always obey and rat on and publicly ostracise anyone that’s questions and doesn’t obey.
It’s like these Degree’s for Dummies they hand out now at most universities and ITs across the world for gender studies and its a piece of paper to say I’m been indoctrinated for 4 years and now take orders willingly and have a false sense of intelligence as I think my education actually was that, an education
Kevin Mugur Galalae found some missing pieces to this puzzle (demographic transition, chemical depopulation…), please check him out.
Excellent post. I only hope you are right about them crashing and burning due to their own arrogance. We’re running out of time and most people are still asleep.
The mainstream media “journalists” are under instruction, none of them report the truth. They are paid handsomely for their compliance and as a wise man once said, and I paraphrase, “It is very difficult to get a man to accept the truth if his job depends on him not accepting it.”. If they stray off script they are fired and blacklisted.
Their employers, the media barons, are part of the many headed hydra of the super rich psychopaths that act with one mind in their new plan to enslave us. The plan has begun with the introduction of medical martial law, which enacts unprecedented powers over us. The Government are also being advised by behavioural scientists who show them how to use fear as a tool for manipulating our unconscious minds for desired outcomes.
The purpose of the plan is controlled demolition of the debt incurred by the financial system, as opposed to uncontrolled chaos. The Central Banks of the world have been acting in unison to bail out the banks and corporations since the crisis of 2008, an unprecedented situation in the history of central banking. The international financial system, and the regulators, have now become captured by vested interests.
The globalisation of finance and trade have enabled this, the super rich now pay very little or nothing in taxes due to offshoring. The vast profits of their investments in multinational corporations, banks, hedge funds etc., not to mention the trillions of dollars/pounds/euros given to them in interest free Q.E. loans that will never be repaid, enabled them to buy off most public officials and politicians. These vested interests have come up with the plan for controlled demolition. The majority of the population are deemed unnecessary in the brave new world they envisage.
You’re right though, when you say at the end of your post that we must keep going. Sites like this and others are good, but face to face discussion in the real world is the best way to get the message across, that’s why they now mandate social distancing (isolation), lockdowns (house arrest) and masks (muzzles). It doesn’t stop me though, I get out as often as I can, I won’t wear a mask, can talk to anyone even if they want me to stay two metres away, and do so at every opportunity. As time has gone on it seems to me that more and more people are prepared to listen, there is still hope we can stop this.
The Media are now trying, to add, to the ‘Fear Propaganda’, by reporting, that Europe has now passed 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. To be precise – 205,000. I did some research, and when the UK, was in the EU, its 28 European States, had over 5 Million Deaths per Year. At that time, (a few Years ago), 16 European States, were not in the EU. That means, that if we add in the Annual Death Rates, for the other 16 European Countries, the Annual Death Rate in all 44 European States, is far higher, than the EU’s 5 Million. The UK Media, are trying to alarm us, with 205,000 European COVID-19 Deaths. The 44 Countries, in Europe, have over 741 Million People, between them. The UK Government & Media, think that we are all too stupid, to do our own research. Sadly, an awful lot of very naive, silly, People, let the Government & Media terrify them, as they do Zero research, and they just believe everything that Boris & Co. & the UK Media, tell them…
There’s more people on the planet now than there was before the plandemic
On daily average 180k people die on the planet.
Its not a contest that’s this is a total charade.
OVER POPULATION is responsible for Global Warming – another hoax for generating social directional conditioning.
REALITY: The global population (7.5 billion) could fit, standing shoulder to shoulder, within a land mass the size of Pembrokeshire. Try sticking a pin in Pembrokeshire on a global atlas.
The comparative size between a pin prick and the surface area of the planet provides an insight into the scale of deception being cultivated in the minds of the people.
“The global population (7.5 billion) could fit, standing shoulder to shoulder, within a land mass the size of Pembrokeshire”
Where would you grow your food for example? Under your feet?
Resources govern size of populations; homes, clean water, arable land, energy, transport routes…
These resources are all finite.
No you TWAT, you would grow food and disperse all human requirements in the 196.900,000 sq. miles of the free available land.
Think of humanity as a pinprick on a Global Map then relate it’s ability to exhaust the finite resources of the world.
Maurice Strong
(Founder of the UN Environment Programme)
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that the threat of global warming would fit the bill, the real enemy then is humanity itself. We believe humanity requires a common
motivation, namely a common adversary to realise a One World Government. It does not matter if this common enemy is a real one or one invented for the purpose.” (Club of Rome -1968).
I BET YOU WEAR A COVID DIRECTED MASK
“No you TWAT”
I stopped reading, right there.
You just wasted your mortal minutes typing the rest, and cannot replace them.
What a shame.
My ‘mortal minutes’ are not only limited but of inconsequence set-against the planets invincible resources.
YOU TWAT
Bill Gates saying that the second wave “will get attention this time” at 6 mins 30 here warrants focus. He’s basically saying, we’ve got something truly horrendous teed up in the bio weapons labs, and looks very smug and happy about that.
no no no
you sea the vector the lab created toxins are already within us all
the trigger the tip of the spear is the 5g
symbiosis synergy of corrupted water food and big pharma medicines
jfk was taken out by sniper teams triangular vectored
tel aviv designed military weapon 5g phased array is standing by ready not with trigger but key input
bill is probably a woman his wife a husband
his great grand pa rockerfella medical cartel bag man like billy here hare here
He can’t help himself.
2:15: he smiles and chuckles as he says: “kill millions of people in developing countries”.
2:55: another somewhat suppressed smile as he says: “death and disease”.
6:45: big smile follows: “the next one”
What a freak show those two are! What is Melinda Gates, exactly?
As much as I hate Gates it’s worth listening to what he says.
He’s not making predictions for the future- he’s telling us what he has planned.
He controls the narrative through the terrorist WHO.
They fully intend to bring this back again in the autumn.
This whole scam has been planned for a very long time.
Who the hell made this abomination the dictator of the world direction?
Are they just letting this grinning fool be the coordinator of this global experiment?
Who elected this stooge?
Why not one piece of opposition on an hierarchy anywhere in the world?
This has never happened in any history book, at any time.
As we all know he’s an unelected technocrat who has used his vast wealth to buy the WHO and basically direct world health policy.
The MSM drool over him and present him as a saviour to the world as he’s funding all the pharmaceutical companies ‘trying to find the vaccine to save the world’.
MSM give him an easy ride and no challenge to anything he says as he’s funding them too.
How exactly are big pharma trying to produce a vaccine for a virus never proven to exist?
The vaccine and what’s in it has been ready from before all this started.
Gates and world leaders know the majority will be hesitant to take a rushed vaccine.
They need to cause havoc for mankind.
The lockdowns and mass fear hysteria are to create a situation where the sheep will flock for Billy’s poison as they will see it as the only way out.
For Gates, vaccines are not about health. It’s about profit and control for the ‘elite’.
The soon to be introduced immunity passports are long planned in line with agenda 2030.
This is about each country having complete control over its citizens.
I like many who know the truth will resist but the government will try and implement policies and regulations to try and make life very difficult for us.
There’s a strong chance that we’ll be excluded from travel, concert halls and any place where large numbers of people gather.
But we can win. Go to a solicitor and have a legal letter drawn up and bring it with you to your vaccination appointment. This letter will state that the medical person administrating the vaccine accepts full responsibility and is liable for any side effects the vaccine may cause. Of course they won’t sign it. Refuse the vaccine and argue if needs be in a court of law that you want the vaccine but the administrator can’t guarantee no side effects so you can’t take it.
It may be our only hope.
I’m with you in what you say of how’s it’s being played out.
But how to acquire more insider knowledge of who’s pulling the strings of Gates himself?
To be honest I said to my self the other day if the mandatory vaccines is going to exclude me from society then happy bloody days! Why would I want to engage with that damned lot for the foreseeable future?
I have lost so much respect for a lot of what I thought were rational, defiant band of people who now are under the mass hypnosis.
I do think when its officially a mandatory vaccine program awaits, a lot of legal experts will come to the fore and challenge this.
I just know varadkar has shafted the country and Gavi Alliance has Ireland down on it’s mass vaccine program list with some of his social media gloating of how much of a lickarse he is to the globohomo.
How does one conjure up hope?
It’s unlikely Gates is acting alone but we may never know who’s pulling his strings.
I’d say Gates is working along with governments of the major economic powers, big pharma and huge corporations who are profiting enormously from the Covid scam such as Amazon, Google etc.
It’s no coincidence that the billionaires wealth has sky rocketed since this started.
Only a very small number of people inside government and companies will know what’s going on. They create the policies that the others follow.
Most politicians are just pawns in a game they don’t understand.
It’s the ‘scientists’ in the background who control most of the data, who make these pcr tests and the WHO have set down this ludicrous method of recording deaths. It’s these criminals who are making the claims of 2nd waves. They are all on Gates and big pharma payroll. They know what’s coming as it’s all planned.
I think your right in that I think it would be very hard to get mandatory vaccines and there will be a big legal challenge. Gates has recognised this himself.
As I posted earlier the lockdowns and restrictions are to create havoc so that people literally think that the vaccine is the only way out.
Excluding people from shops, travel etc who don’t take the vaccine will cause an almighty uproar and would cause a huge storm.
I can’t see it being implemented. When they announce the vaccine there’ll be a huge media campaign with hard hitting emotional messages persuading people to get it.
I think the majority will get it but there’s also a lot of people who are very aware of what’s going on. Not all of these people will come on social media etc but I’d say that at least 25% of people will resist so we have company.
If you think about it who in their right mind would take a rushed vaccine or any vaccine that has the Gates signature on it.
Microsoft now has huge operations, including r&d and security, in Israel. This is not insignificant
The very fact he’s not been publicly opposed, denounced or ridiculed by almost any leading figure tells you he’s part of the control apparatus.
“Dupers delight” is an interesting phenomenon. 6:54 is extremely disturbing to me because of what it foreshadows.
This actually really is scary
here’s another crowd funding petition saying the lockdon is illegal
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/the-coronavirus-act-2020/?utm_source=backer_social&utm_campaign=the-coronavirus-act-2020&utm_reference=076bcc354f4bb5833b456bb67e109999&utm_medium=email&utm_content=post_pledge_page
We have now established that The Coronavirus Act 2020 is null and void. There are many reasons for this, the main one being that S1(1) of the Act defines ‘coronavirus’ as being ‘covid-19’ or it’s other name ‘SARS Cov-2’. However, by virtue of the fact that it is not legally, medically or scientifically recognised as a disease or virus it cannot be legislated against, and this makes the whole Act null and void.
The reason for this is that ‘covid-19’ has not been subjected to the 130 year established legal, medical and scientific procedure that recognises if it is actually a disease or virus or not, which is known as the Koch Postulates. This involves purifying and isolating the ‘disease’ or ‘virus’ and proving that it actually causes the illness that it is claimed that it does.
it needs to be prefaced with a warning it contains signs of a lock down. this makes an act a sign of a lock down so all other acts need to be prefaced with a warning.
A complete waste of brain power. cv19 ping pong simply doesn’t exist. There are no scientific papers that prove it exists. There are no scientific papers proving it is transmissible between humans. There doesn’t have to be. The sheep have been brainwashed over decades through film,popular culture, going through the government indocrination camps, etc in to believing these things exist. It rarely occurs to any of them to question this belief. Yet they are the first to denounce religious people as simple minded. As a great philosopher once said, you cannot make this crp up.
It shows people cannot think rationally.
We were told at the start of this fiasco that Covid19 was a new and strange deadly pneumonia.
What we weren’t told is what’s so new and strange about it. All we were told is that the symptoms are flu like.
Now how can anyone be diagnosed as having this new deadly pneumonia but you have no symptoms, need no treatment and are not suffering from it.
It’s complete horse shit.
It’s weaker than the flu
At least the flu can kill a young person who has no underlying conditions
Even comparing it to the flu is giving it too much credence.
It is just psychosomatic and stress and trauma induced propaganda
95% of most illnesses are stress related.
They know what cortisol does to an already weak body.
Wait now till this “2nd wave” propaganda in the autumn and the flu will disappear and covid will be twice as prevalent and the vaccine will have to be implemented globally.
They are just keeping the demoralization stage ramped up and then the masses will willingly or submissively line to get the needle in the arse.
Over my dead body they won’t .