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What does “diversity and inclusion” mean to you?

Kevin Smith

Image source here.

With the recent non-stop coverage of the race-related disturbances, media debates on slavery, statues and racial prejudice, some readers might be inclined not to read on.

Over a year ago I recall the collective groan around our office when it was announced we were all to attend a training course on diversity and inclusion in the workplace. We were also required to attend a shorter course about unconscious bias, similar to the one Keir Starmer is booked on.

For a few of my colleagues I expect it was timely reminder to avoid engaging in anything remotely resembling office banter or innuendo.

But the training course got me thinking a little about what these words and values really mean and how they should be measured.

My thoughts were reignited late last year when I came across a competition, the theme of which was ‘embracing differences’. Entrants were asked to come up with a quote of no more than 20 words saying what embracing inclusion and diversity means to them.

However, I anticipated that the competition judges would be conditioned to expect something restricted to inclusion and diversity interaction in our western ‘liberal’ culture and the shallow sound-bites and virtual-signalling that go with it.

The problem

My view is that on race, equality and diversity issues we create problems which didn’t previously exist and ignore huge problems which do, for reasons I’ll explain.

Contrary to what we are told, the ‘advanced’ West doesn’t have ownership of equality, inclusion and diversity. This, I believe is because the majority of the public understand these values very narrowly in terms of in their own life, work, country or sphere of the world.

In contrast, I would imagine the thoughts of the majority here are very much focused on other societies and people throughout the world and our attitude towards and what we can learn from them.

So, I think on all levels, equality, inclusion and diversity needs to be redefined to a broader more global awareness.

In the West we are too inward-looking and eager to jump on any political bandwagon without thought for the consequences.

When I was thinking about this, I was reminded of the high-profile people and celebrities weighing in on matters they know nothing or care about, to promote themselves and their politics. The ‘anti-Semitism’ hoax which was cynically used by Labour politicians and celebrities and there’s been plenty of grandstanding over ‘Black Lives Matter’

All these people claim to embrace equality, inclusion and diversity but use war, religion and race to bolster themselves with what may appear on the surface to be genuine, caring narratives. But the reality is they create division in society and the world, then distance themselves from the fall-out.

Like many, I can’t help thinking that at least some of these events are related to the repeated attempts to undermine and remove Trump – media and celebrity culture being used to whip up the hysteria which in turn stirs up the general public.

The end result is this distracts away from big issues such as world conflict, imperialism and corruption, most of the general public on either ‘side’ viewing race, inclusion and diversity in very simplistic and divisive terms.

I don’t believe anyone can claim to embrace inclusion and diversity, while failing to adopt careful thinking and behaviour towards all humans everywhere.

Recent thinking

Just the other day with the latest furore on everything race, I started thinking about recent events and the new names, expressions and slogans we keep hearing.

‘Black Lives Matter, ‘White Lives Matter’ ‘cancel culture’, ‘taking the knee’, chucking statues in rivers and all the virtual signalling celebrity bandwagons on Twitter.

I feel inclusion and diversity are about respecting and including others, being compassionate to all and self-aware.

But I also think the crucial part of it is about self-education and reflection, being inquisitive and having the ability to think critically, fairly and without prejudice and reflecting this in our actions. Sadly, much of this is well beyond the scope of every-day interaction between diverse people and groups in UK and western society and work training courses.

My other thoughts which may be shared by many readers is that our attitude towards people beyond our shores should not be determined by the same standards we claim to hold in our societies.

They should have the freedom to evolve in the way they choose, as we did – before we screwed it up. But we should not interfere or sanction – we should build relations and consensus despite our differences.

The blind arrogance and let’s be frank, racism dressed up as either ‘patriotism’ or ‘liberal’ human rights concern towards Russia, China, Africa and the Middle East is so typical in mainstream media and celebrity circles and has compounded so much conflict and prejudice. For me this is a massive double standard.

Given that so far, significant sections of our populations lack the ability to think critically and reflect on these matters, we have a lot to learn from less-developed societies about basic decent values. For reasons I’ll go on to explain, if we don’t wake up now, our present delusion of our righteousness and pureness could bite us hard.

A word about unconscious bias

As I mentioned above, I attended a work training course on unconscious bias. I’m open-minded to these things but normally a good training course which teaches me something useful always sticks with me. I honestly remember little about the content of the course.

Thinking back, I believe the simple reason was that I didn’t think unconscious bias was a significant issue in the grand scheme. We all have unconscious bias and perhaps in a world which was free of greater problems related to racism, foreign wars of aggression and conscious and open discrimination, I could see more of a relevance.

This article on RT about unconscious bias is worth reading and the concluding paragraphs, I think articulately sums up my feelings.

But shouldn’t we be more concerned about what we do, rather than what we – unconsciously – think? This new and sustained focus on the unconscious by the so-called ‘race experts’ who perform the bias training essentially represents the colonisation of people’s internal thought processes.

And if we continue down this path, brainwashing will become legitimate policy”.

So perhaps this fits in with my general thoughts that we concentrate too much on the less important to the detriment of tackling the most serious problems arising from actions.

Some quotes

Anyway, with the competition about diversity and inclusion still in my mind, I thought I would write down some quotes which provoke some real thoughts.

If we are to address cynical attempts to create or compound divisions and so highlight the real issues, I think our message has to be simple, yet profound. One which also meets the requirements of the short attention span level most of the general public have. At least to start off a thought-process in these people.

I jotted down some quotes as below which try to encapsulate these thoughts. They probably won’t win a competition, but I think some of them perhaps remind us that thinking carefully beyond our own lives, workplaces and shores is the crucial point of this.

We should learn that genuine celebration of diversity is found most in societies where the word ‘diversity’ is seldom used.”

Equality, diversity and inclusion are empty, insincere words if we in the West continue waging wars abroad.”

Diversity at home is celebrating our differences. On the world stage it us allowing less developed societies to evolve freely.”

To embrace inclusion and diversity you need to be an ambassador for humanity, not a citizen of one state.”

We should be learning from states in the world which are states for all religions and for no religion.”

Diversity is not about glossing over differences to make us appear all equal. It is about treating all with equal respect.”

Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Syria

This is where the lack of thinking and shallow attitudes on race, inclusion and diversity in the West comes to the surface. To demonstrate our displeasure against inequality based on race, we tear down 300-year old stone statues.

But meanwhile, in Iraq, millions were killed and displaced by the Blair government, a country still shattered today.

In Libya, a country was destroyed by the Cameron government, now slave markets run.

In Yemen, with our complicity, millions of people are bombed back to the stone-age.

In Syria, one of the most ethnically and religiously diverse nations in the world, we arm and fund racist, sectarian terrorists to try to unseat a president we disapprove of. And we starve their people under sanctions.

How many misinformed comments and slogans have we heard from ‘woke’ liberals in the West about unproven and unlikely bombed hospitals and chemical weapons in Syria?

Plenty.

Yet so few comments from the same people about the people of Yemen who are undeniably dying daily from British bombs, disease and starvation.

The people of all the nations above have been dehumanised, misrepresented and ignored by our government, media and general public. So much for inclusion and diversity.

The countries and people of the countries we’ve been attacking, stand head and shoulders above us in terms of human rights, inclusion, diversity, and resilience.

For example, Syria isn’t and has never claimed to be a perfect system or society. But it embraces the freedom of religious worship and despite war, its many ethnic groups live together peacefully.

It’s resisted 9 years of war waged from outside which we could never have endured and come out stronger in many ways. I know that often countries under war or sanctions become more united, resilient and resourceful and Syria, despite our repeated meddling will evolve to something better than before. Syria and other ‘less developed’ nations are not obsessed about the words, equality, inclusion and diversity as we are. They just get on with it.

A warning for the future

Equality, inclusion and diversity as we understand them in the West are just empty words to hide behind and make us feel better about ourselves.

For their faults, you’ll find these values more associated with the behaviour of Russia, Syria, Venezuela, Iran and their people.

Do we in the West possess the same intelligence, community spirit and resilience as our so-called rivals?.

I rather doubt that as we in the big boys world club have become pampered and dumbed-down, allowing our thinking to become tainted by identity politics, celebrity and ‘woke’ culture and consumerism. Covid-19 and the blind surrender to lockdown shows clearly that we’re not the nation we once were.

Today, the West claims to be the champion of human rights, diversity and inclusion but in the background of an aggressive foreign policy and dehumanising wars of regime change against other races of people.

Meanwhile a rapidly evolving Russia with admittedly some human rights issues within seeks pragmatism, partnership and consensus in its foreign relations with all countries. Based on what we’ve been told about Russia for years, this may seem a little back to front. But I know which ‘side’ is the biggest threat to peace, inclusion and diversity on this planet and its not Russia.

For one relatively recent example of what being liberal and diverse means in western society nowadays look no further than the Americans and also the Israelis painting fighter jets pink for breast cancer awareness month.

Here is my quote on that.

Inclusion and diversity is not about pink fighter-jets for breast-cancer awareness month. It’s about all humanity below the flight- path.”

Concluding thoughts

It’s clear that we in the West are living under a massive delusion. Our leaders are destroying the rest of the world while distracting the public with silly counterproductive debates and slogans.

Until the UK and the West respects human rights, equality and decency in their true definition, racism will always exist in our societies. Demonstrating against racism in our communities or attending diversity and inclusion training courses is largely pointless.

The obvious end result of all this as I’ve mentioned here before, is a hot war with Russia, likely triggered by ‘humanitarian intervention’ in Syria or elsewhere. Or possibly with China, considering the hostile rhetoric we’ve been hearing more of recently.

The UK and the West is not at the forefront of humanitarian values, diversity and inclusion and never has been. It’s against them, so is against all of us.

The so-called less-developed world actually has a better record than us. If a devastating global conflict can somehow be avoided, I suspect it won’t be long before we look to them for help and inspiration to overthrow the whole rotten system which is working against all of us.

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Morgan Mundane
Morgan Mundane
Jul 16, 2020 7:11 PM

As a former training manager for a large state district, I was pretty much ordered more then once to schedule our employees for “Diversity Traininig”. The quiet joke for me was my district was 99% white.Our State Psychologist, who was a friend of mine, spilled the beans that they were having problems in the twin cities area with employees of color, and instead of trying to resolve that, they decided to do the entire state, all districts so no one knew it was just a small area that had problems.
 
Over the years I got so sick of scheduling this crap. I use to call it how to get along training but it was really, you white people, here’s what you need to know to work with people of color and other minorties. As in if we understood more, problems wouldn’t be occuring.
This is exactly what I’m hearing on tv these days on the talk shows too. Whitey doesnt understand so were going to force you to understand that A, were in charge now and your the minority.

alex
alex
Jul 15, 2020 1:56 PM

Heartfelt concern about diversity is shown through public displays of ‘philanthropy’ – the modern branding tool of choice.
Corporations pledge token amounts to get free advertising and we buy their stuff.

crank
crank
Jul 15, 2020 8:57 AM

What Does Diversity and Inclusion Mean to Me ?
 
This week a young mother was murdered for answering back with, “All lives matter”. It means this headline tweet from Pink News :
‘UK’s biggest cervical cancer charity shuts down disgustingly transphobic lie that ‘only females get cervical cancer’ ‘

Chris
Chris
Jul 14, 2020 10:39 PM

Excellent article, this article articulates the problems of “liberalism” so clearly. I was just chatting to some young people about Romania, and they berated the fact that 65% of Romanians voted against gay marriage. But do you believe in democracy or do the Romanians need educating into liberal values? The voice of the people have spoken! But it was the wrong answer! Maybe they are prejudiced but we sure as hell aren’t going to find out by pontificating over here and not speaking to any Romanians in a way that we learn something (hopefully about our unconscious bias). Especially whilst feeling so morally proud we ignore the complete destruction of our civil liberties under medical martial law.

Jpc
Jpc
Jul 13, 2020 5:21 PM

Excellent concise summary of the malign thought processes of the West
Tearing itself apart with identity politics.
But bombing nation’s because of their threats to the west. (None!)
Beyond satire

Paul
Paul
Jul 13, 2020 3:33 PM

On match of the day last Thursday the ass licker Dan Walker asked black footballer Dion Dublin was taking the knee making a difference to racism in football.
Dublin replied it absolutely was.

Maybe someone should point out to these two complete buffoons that there’s been no fans allowed since football started back.

Thanks for ruining Match of the day. I’m away now to cancel my tv license.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jul 13, 2020 6:16 PM
Reply to  Paul

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Walker was ”taking a knee” as he asked Dublin the question. The whole thing’s a farce. How come the deaths of black people at the hands of the police in the USA are suddenly of such interest to people involved in English football? Preposterous!
 
As for Match of the Day being ruined, Lineker long ago had that effect on me. A mulitmillionaire who’s greedy enough to sell fatty snacks to children who are already overweight. Tosser.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 14, 2020 12:23 PM
Reply to  Paul

Gosh I can almost smell burning pig meat! It’s delicious – more please , and more tears , yum!

hope
hope
Jul 13, 2020 1:44 PM

Let me just include a poem (1937) by the Indian poet Tagore (translation by Radice). Its particularly what has been done to Africa, but the latter half applied more widely.
 
Africa
 
When, in that turbid first age,
The Creator, displeased with himself,
Destroyed his new creations again and again;
In those days of his shaking and shaking his head in irritation
The angry sea
Snatched you from the breast of Mother Asia,
Africa –
Consigned you to the guard of immense trees,
To a fastness dimly lit.
There in your hidden leisure
You collected impenetrable secrets,
Learnt the arcane languages of water and earth and sky;
Nature’s invisible magic
Worked spells in your unconscious mind.
You ridiculed Horror
By making your own appearance hideous;
You cowed Fear
By heightening your menacing grandeur,
By dancing to the drumbeats of chaos.
Alas, shadowy Africa,
Under your black veil
Your human aspect remained unknown,
Blurred by the murk of contempt.
Others came with iron manacles,
With clutches sharper than the claws of your own wild wolves:
Slavers came,
With an arrogance more benighted than your own dark jungles.
Civilization’s barbarous greed
Flaunted its naked inhumanity.
You wailed wordlessly, muddied the soil of your steamy jungles
With blood and tears;
The hobnailed boots of your violators
Stuck gouts of that stinking mud
Forever on your stained history.
Meanwhile across the sea in their native parishes
Temple-bells summoned your conquerors to prayer,
Morning and evening, in the name of a loving god.
Mothers dandled babies in their laps;
Poets raised hymns to beauty.
Today as the air of the West thickens,
Constricted by imminent evening storm;
As animals emerge from secret lairs
And proclaim by their ominous howls the closing of the day;
Come, poet of the end of the age,
Stand in the dying light of advancing nightfall
At the door of despoiled Africa
And say, ‘Forgive, forgive – ’
In the midst of murderous insanity,
May these be your civilization’s last, virtuous words.
 
 

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 14, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  hope

Or as Gandhi simply said about what he thought of western civilisation?

‘eems like a nice idea – they should try it’

Hank
Hank
Jul 13, 2020 1:42 PM

Dreaming of utopia much?
 
Of those countries you mentioned Libya, Yemen and Syria all were started by Obama, Hilary and Kerry which you fail to mention but instead mention only UK governments? I also mention Iraq in the fact that Obama prolonged it and helped it start up again and be overrun by terrorists.
 
Diversity and inclusion and harmony will never coexist peacefully as long as Islam and Communism exist! Both should be banned. Japan doesn’t have these problems as it understands Islam and so far has strictly limited its spread. Wherever Islam goes problems exist. The great Winston Churchill said it best about the fanatical supporters of Islam.
 
Identity politics is the problem and people give it too much air. What happened to judging (if you have to) someone based on the content of their character not the color of their skin?
 
If you think those less developed worlds have a better record just look at the middle east and see what Islam has done to all who are not Muslim and even to other Muslims. Same goes for Africa.
 
Some Asian countries that practice Buddhism seem to have good records but also have their own problems as people with different cultures and religions move around. 
 
Diversity and inclusion also means comedy is dead. Everyone seems to be easily offended.
 
Freedom is never free.
 
Poorly written article.
 

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 13, 2020 2:25 PM
Reply to  Hank

Poorly written article.
 
— according to someone who writes “Libya, Yemen, and Syria”, when he presumably intends to refer to the wars occurring in those countries. this is bordering on illiteracy.
 
[“Awaiting for approval” — oh, I’m back in the pre-moderation doghouse again. To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize.]
 

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 13, 2020 10:08 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

I quote you:
 
[“Awaiting for approval” — oh, I’m back in the pre-moderation doghouse again. To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize.]
 
I was going to give you a “thumbs up” until I read this bit. It happens automatically from time to time. It’s nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.
 
 
 

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jul 13, 2020 3:30 PM
Reply to  Hank

Wherever Islam goes problems exist. 
 
Bush Jr. and Blair are both supposedly of the Christian faith. The former said that God had told him to intervene in Iraq. I don’t see you saying that Christianity should be banned, in the name of peaceful coexistence.
 
And who in their right mind gives a toss about what Churchill, that racist prick, said about anything?

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Jul 14, 2020 7:17 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Hank , Gwynn and whoeve else..
 
Bush Jr’s ‘God’ was his psychotice father. Blair’s was -and is- Lucifer. When he left Downing Street for the last time, Blair flew to his dear friend, the Pope, in Rome to be converted to Catholicism and reuinited with the blood money that had been sat in the Vatican’s bank, far from the eyes of the tax man.He went on to develop an obscene amount of money through his property portfolio.A fine and efficient laundry.
 
”Diversity and inclusion and harmony will never coexist peacefully as long as Islam and Communism exist! ”
 
I beleive all the genocide and muder commited in two world wars, and two Iraqi’ conflicts’ , was inflicted by democracies and funded by Zionist Jewsih banks. The only reason problems will exist as long as Islam exists is because Zionist Jews exist and their banks do too. The Muslim is the sworn enemy of the Jew. The UK / US alliance is a contract killer team. Israel take out various ‘hits’.
 
”Freedom is never free.”
 
Only once it’s been hijacked and held to ransom.As in our fine ‘democracies’.
 
 

paul
paul
Jul 15, 2020 8:31 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Ah, but everybody knows Bombing Brown People is good for them.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 14, 2020 1:11 PM
Reply to  Hank

“Islam and Communism” – the two big rubber stamped designated bogey men of Yankland.
 
“Freedom is never free.” – it sure ain’t. Paid for in millions of dollars and millions of dead.
 
In short: an ongoing protection racket.
 

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jul 13, 2020 12:59 PM

Dunno much about diversity, but if anyone wants to include me in anything, they can f**k off, quite frankly.
 
(I admit that it’s unlikely in the extreme that anyone would want to include me in anything).
 
 

Peter
Peter
Jul 13, 2020 12:08 PM

What is diversity?
If a white male interbreeds with a black woman is the off spring White, Black or of colour?
Does this make the off spring 50% Black/White?
If this person of colour who is 50% marries another person of colour would their off spring be 25% white and 75% black, or indeed vice versa?
Or if a person of colour marries another person who is 100% black or white, will their of spring be 75% black or white, or indeed vice versa?
 
Be careful of going down this avenue of ethnic mix, these rule where used to define Jewishness in Nazi Germany and Apartheid rules in South Africa.
 
It also forms the basis of racial supremacy groups [NOT just white] but other races, religious sects etc that will not allow intermarriage out side of their particular group.
 
Leading to i/we are right, whilst everyone else [possibly the majority] is wrong. leading us down the road to more intolerance and friction.
 
As they say be careful what you wish far.

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 13, 2020 10:49 AM

More fear porn…
 
Immunity to coronavirus may only last a few months
  
Immunity to Covid-19 in recovered patients may only last a few months, a new study conducted by King’s College London has suggested.
  
According to the research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, immunity antibodies decrease significantly in the three months following infection, leaving patients susceptible to reinfection year after year – similar to the common cold.”
 
The MSM are criminals. Percentage death toll figures are…
 
WORLDWIDE = 0.007%
 
UK = 0.06%
 
 
 
 

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Jul 13, 2020 12:00 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Yet more proof it is the terrain that is fundamental here. Keep immunity up, the ‘virus’ won’t ‘strike’.

Peter
Peter
Jul 13, 2020 12:21 PM
Reply to  Grafter

How very true. MSM tell us what the PIC’s want to tell us. By removing any alternative information. Then repeat over and over again from different, but authorised sources and the majority believe it has true. The majority have neither the time, nor inclination to look behind the facts. Or indeed want to be seen as different to the majority, one must conform to the society that one resides in.
 
The MSM are criminals. Percentage death toll figures for Covid19 are…
 
WORLDWIDE = 0.007%
 
UK = 0.06%
 
How many killed in Civil Wars, Regime changes in countries around the world?
How many killed by the lack of decent drinking water, and effective sewage treatment around the world?
How many killed due to funds being skimmed off by Local leaders, NGO’s or Donating Nations who don’t ensure that the funds donated are used wisely?
How many are killed because we [incudes me] don’t ask of our leaders why?

Joerg
Joerg
Jul 13, 2020 10:42 AM

Excellent article from Kevin Smith! Thanks!
 
“<em>Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Syria</em>”. Yes, they don’t care at all about these genocidal wars!
And they also don’t care about the Skripals.
I knew this “disappearing” only from Pinochet’s Chile and from Argentine (some decades ago).
But the rulers of the UK not only locked away Julian Assange. The even “</strong>DISAPPEARED</strong>” Yulia and Sergei Skripal.
Yulia was engaged and about to marry. Now she has been deported to New Zealand?
They are not allowed to have an attorney and fight for their freedom.
It is even possible they have been murdered by the UK government by now.
See: “PROOF OF LIFE. WHAT DID THE UK GOVERNMENT DO TO YULIA & SERGEI SKRIPAL?” –


 
“All these people claim to embrace equality, inclusion and diversity”
But these self-righteous ‘demonstrators’ not only have no mind – even worse: they have no HEART.
Where is “equality” and where is “inclusion” for the Skripals (and for Assange)?!

I.Rose
I.Rose
Jul 13, 2020 8:36 AM

“All life, regardless of its form, classification or reputation
will respond to genuine interest, respect, appreciation,
admiration, affection, gentleness, courtesy, and good manners.”
Kinship With All Life J. Allen Boone, 1954

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Jul 13, 2020 12:45 AM

HE’S GONNA SAVE THE DAY
 
The other day FBI informant Al Sharpton appeared with idiotic Mayor de Blasio to organize what looked like a childlike park’s department project painting Black Lives Matters in large yellow letters on Fifth Avenue adjacent to Trump Tower as a way to psychologically release pent up rage. Someone should point out to Al Sharpton and to Mr Liberal Bill de Blasio that if black lives really matter those big yellow letters should extend to Africa where places like Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan, Uganda, etc… are in ongoing conflicts instigated by a multitude of worldwide interests as a way to extract natural resources.
 
Wars displace indigenous populations robbing their countries’ natural resources. Tribal conflicts are deliberately inflamed as a way to destabilize African territories and abscond with valuable resources like oil, timber, and minerals.  Or perhaps, Sharpton should consider a closer location like Minneapolis where numerous black owned businesses were burned down during the George Floyd protests. Minority business owners lost everything and most had no insurance. I guess, those black lives didn’t matter because it didn’t fit into MSNBC or the CNN official narrative of how identity politics ameliorates social injustice.
 
When establishment sellout figures and major corporations embrace a political movement you know these miscreants found a way to divert rage away from real social justice issues and actual solutions. These creeps prefer seeing mobs destroy unimportant statues, paint BLM on roads, or even establish a Seattle Chop Zone because they know it will all amount to NOTHING. Just look at the results of the Bernie/Biden task force it was a total joke ZERO was accomplished. It was just a show. The BLM protests were triggered because of George Floyds horrific death, however, the ton of rage released onto the streets had more to do with a whole array of social injustices. And that’s why the demonstrations were sometimes comprised of more whites than blacks. The Covid-19 lockdowns, the resulting unemployment, the closing of schools, increased debt, and the uncertainty about the future caused thousands of protests in the US and in Europe.  
 
The COVID-19 pandemic manipulated by the mainstream media news provoked mass hysteria leading to a lockdown resulting in social instability. The healthcare system in the US is not capable of dealing with a pandemic because it operates like a commodity denying millions who can’t afford the luxury of being sick. In addition, the lack of social safety nets takes those already living on the edge and causes them to fall off the cliff. This would be the case no matter whoever is President– Republican or Democrat since social Darwinism is the mantra of neoliberal economics.
 
However, the pandemic occurred while Trump was president so it became his problem.  COVID-19 accomplished what Russiagate and Ukraine-gate could not. It was able to make a half-dead presidential candidate living in a basement become appealing to a segment of voters susceptible to mainstream media news bullshit.  COVID-19 decimated nursing homes causing older voters to believe a masked vegetated Biden could save them even though he’s advocated cutting Medicare and Social Security.  MSNBC spends hours each day psychologically terrorizing older voters pressing them to vote for Biden. The Democrats know this demographic tends to be the most reliable every election day.
 
The other reliable voting block is older blacks, but the Dems are also hoping the Black Lives Matter movement will inspire younger blacks who never in a million years would vote for reactionary basement-Joe–the guy who passed legislation expanding privatized prisons, increasing jail sentences, and incarcerating hundreds of thousands of minorities.  
 
The security state working hand-in-hand with mainstream media news politicized COVID-19 to sway specific segments of the electorate– older voters were targeted to believe a Democratic President will spare them from geronticide, while minorities think a smiling lifeless Joe is gonna save the day. 

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 13, 2020 9:11 AM

Doesn’t anyone ask questions about a mayor of NYC who has changed his name not once but twice?
 
Bill de Blasio was born Warren Wilhelm Jr.; he changed his name to Warren de Blasio-Wilhelm in 1983 and finally to Bill de Blasio in 2001 “to honor his maternal family”.
 
NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio is likely a 2nd generation intel product. Maria de Blasio, mother of Bill, worked for Elmer Davis, Director of the United States Office of War Information during World II. During the 1950s, at the height of the Red Scare, both Maria and Warren Wilhelm were accused of having a “sympathetic interest in Communism” – though his father may have been genuine, what was the role of his mother?

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Jul 13, 2020 11:22 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“He might decry the role of big money in politics, but that hasn’t stopped de Blasio from collecting financial support from one of the biggest names in political spending. Liberal megadonor George Soros and his sons, Robert and Alexander, gave $12,400 to de Blasio’s most recent mayoral campaign, according to New York City campaign finance records. The entire Soros clan — including daughter Andrea, sons Alexander, Gregory and Jonathan, plus Robert’s then-wife — were even more generous to de Blasio during his first run, when they collectively pitched in $29,875 to help him secure a mayoral seat.”
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/elections/presidential-profiles-2020/bill-de-blasio-president/

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 12, 2020 11:19 PM

I find the attempts to map blame for historical ills on today’s people as self-serving attempts at shakedowns, a way for those with sharp elbows (of a different color) to get their piece of the pie.
 
The one thing you can say about our rulers throughout history is that they really were equal opportunity in their outlook. The screwed anyone they could — white, black, brown, yellow, male, female — provided there’s profit to be had then its all grist to the mill. So I’m wihte, obviously privleged by modern standards, but looking at my grandparent’s life I’d say anything but. Go back a bit further and you’re talking Irish peasant and Scottish crofter, two groups that were nominally white but definitely disadvantaged. This kind of ‘screw the lower orders’ mindset isn’t confned to the white races, either — its been endemic throughout history and is still very much alive and kicking in many parts of the world (India, for example). So while we need to push back against racism — we’re all in this together — we need to also remember that not all of us grew up in white, middle class, American households in the 1950s. For many it was a tough slog and in many cases there’s not a whole lot of daylight between being a ‘native’ and being a lower class white person in the colonies.
 
The US has a very brief history, its still working itself out to a large extent. Its not a good model for the rest of the world.

Jerry
Jerry
Jul 12, 2020 11:00 PM

Let me guess: the teachers of this training course on diversity are still devotedly voting for their enslavement?

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Jul 12, 2020 10:25 PM

A jackass isn’t defined by it’s colour….. .

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Jul 12, 2020 9:54 PM

Identity politics tool/weapon of the Cabal / Deep State. The aim, to destroy whites in particular, whom they regard as their only threat.

Londonistan
Londonistan
Jul 12, 2020 10:44 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

Indeed. White people have always been difficult to rule and subdue – and they are also superb at inventing machines and weapons – not good traits to have in sheep and farm yard animals.
 
WW1 – First serious attempt at the destruction of White men – wholesale slaughter. The Russian Revolution ensured the destruction of a race was carried out at both ends.
 
WW2 – Second serious attempt to destroy the three White nations most capable of resisting the plan – same as in WW1 with Britain, Germany, and Russia in particular paying with the most blood (The Soviet Union lost more White people than the whole of Europe and the USA put together during WW2).
 
WW3 – Still ongoing. People expected nukes to be used, but instead it was economic domination and terrorism combined with identity politics and the substitution of indoctrination instead of education.
 
This led to open borders (a country is not a country without borders), and ‘multiculturalism’ which means no distinct cultural identity (a country is not a country without a cultural identity, it is merely a place where people live and live and work – like a Human Farm).
 
Interestingly, as WW3 progresses, indoctrinated and psychologically poisoned White people are destroying thier own history, their own cultures, thier own institutions, and thier own cities, as thier programming of ‘White People Bad’ approachs the Gulag stage. Indeed, in the BLM and other protests, it appeared Whites outnumbered the Blacks!
 
So, Ethnic, Cultural, and Historical destruction prior to the next stage of White extermination.
 
What will the next stage be?
 
Another World War with mostly white people killing each other again (ie NATO set against the ‘Red Terror’ of modern Russia – ‘Russia bad’ and all that)?
 
A Communist Cultural Revolution such as that which led to the death of millions in the Soviet Union?
 
Or the closing of white womens wombs to white men (through career first programming, inter-racial marriage, economic contraints, the destruction of the family, gender confusion, and whatever else causes white women not to start a family with a white man)?
 
Something very evil and very determined has tried to wipe out White people for a long time, and having tried wars, famines, and genocidal revolutions, and failed, blatant population replacement seems to be the current agenda. What comes next – the release of a bio-agent that causes sterility in White people (or a vaccine to the bio-agent that causes sterility)?
 
Who knows. But what is certain (and the evidence is massive to support it) – White people have been marked for death.
 

Dave Lawton
Dave Lawton
Jul 13, 2020 12:55 AM
Reply to  Londonistan

BLM was founded by trained Marxists and funded by the Ford Foundation.Henry Ford was a racist and Hitlers best friend in America.The Ford Foundation is a CIA asset.Its not rocket science to use that old cliche.

Keto is natural
Keto is natural
Jul 17, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  Dave Lawton

Ford was brutal. There are others. The UK government hand over billions to Siemens for the climate change con (wind farms), yet it was them who funded the SS pension fund. Hilarious.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 13, 2020 9:13 AM
Reply to  Londonistan

White people have always been difficult to rule and subdue…

 
That’s because they were the ones doing the ruling and subduing for which they invented the machines and weapons.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Jul 13, 2020 5:53 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“they were the ones doing the ruling and subduing”
 
This is about to change don’t you think? The last of the western empires is about to fall, look east.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jul 12, 2020 9:39 PM

Ohio mask snitch hotline:
 
216-698-5050
 
online snitch form:
http://cuyahogacounty.us/maskexperience
 
Let’s spam the fvck out of them.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Jul 12, 2020 10:14 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Done. I sent this.
 
“I like wearing mask as it is a way of expressing my concern for not only my fellow human beings but also all the other animals whom we coexist with, I often have to remove my mask as I chastise the cheeky non mask wearing cute little birdies in the trees, it is great to wag my finger as I am sure some of the birds in the trees would love to come right on down from that big branch and perch on my finger and go tweet tweet tweet to my song about masks being neat, which I will share with you now.
Tweet Tweet Tweet
My Mask is so neat
Tweet Tweet Tweet
I want to wear a mask on my feet
Tweet Tweet Tweet, I want the whole world to see
that wearing my mask means I am totally free
Tweet Tweet Tweet Mr Robin Wheres your mask
He Replied, I don’t have one, why do you ask
Tweet Tweet Tweet its because I like to care
And maybe it would make the world a better place
If every living thing had a mask on its face.
 
Feel free to share my song, I sing it everywhere.
 
I have another song called I like mask which I will also share because it is not very long
 
I like masks, I like masks, I like masks, no matter what colour
I like masks I like masks, I likes masks as life would be much duller.
 
Can we wear masks forever? please, pretty pretty please with maple syrup on top?”
 
 
should do their heads in a tad.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jul 13, 2020 1:30 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

😀
 
I made a statement saying that flatulence spreads covid, so we should all be wearing diapers over our pants. We should jail those who don’t. Trump should’ve done this months ago to stop TP shortage, so it’s all his fault, and asked where I can find a mask that doubles as a pacifier.

Mishko
Mishko
Jul 12, 2020 7:15 PM

Well, I live in the Netherlands, so to me diversity is this thing fat cunt
Frans Timmermans the lying MH17 dramaqueen loves to go on about
from his cushy job in the EU parliament.
Apart from that, divide and conquer. Diversity is just a means to an end.

Rather
Rather
Jul 12, 2020 9:33 PM
Reply to  Mishko

If you want to stop them using race as a means of creating division, then stop hating on immigrants.

International trade, international travel and Internationale emigration, the world is getting smaller for you and everyone else. Do you want to live in a world where you can’t retire to India, Spain or France, because you are a foreigner. I thought not. You want all the goodies but you don’t want to pay the price.

KarenEliot
KarenEliot
Jul 12, 2020 7:07 PM

“Diversity at home is celebrating our differences. On the world stage it us allowing less developed societies to evolve freely.”

Unfortunately this well-meaning little adage is underpinned by the teleology that things, people, societies, “economies”, have to evolve or ‘develop’. People who just want to be left alone should just be left alone. Not “included”.

paul
paul
Jul 12, 2020 6:40 PM

“Diversity” is just a code word for Anti White Racism.
This is the only racism that is allowed now.
White people are evil, just by virtue of existing.
They need to shut the f**k up, because what they think doesn’t matter.
At the same time, White Silence Is Violence.
Just ask Spectre, Gysi, Levy, Ignatiev, or Sarkozy.
White people have to be replaced through mass immigration of tens and hundreds of millions of Camp Of The Saints style unassimilable third world rapefugees and gimmegrants.
All white countries, and only white countries, have to be turned into multi racial hell holes. It’s okay if India and Japan and China are for the Indians and the Japanese and the Chinese. But white countries are for the whole world, until white populations can be conveniently genocided. This shouldn’t take too long. After all, they are already less than 10% of the world population
Of course this doesn’t apply to the Zionist Ethno State, where racial purity is essential.
White people need to get down on their knees and beg forgiveness from their black masters, as they wash their feet and shine their shoes. And give all their money away to any random black people they encounter. And just be suitably grateful as they are robbed, raped and murdered, because complaining about it is evidence of White Privilege.
All the Hebrew Media Folk can helpfully explain this.

Londonistan
Londonistan
Jul 12, 2020 10:51 PM
Reply to  paul

Paul,
 
Awsome Comment!
 
+1000

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 12, 2020 6:34 PM

mark passio has an interesting take on racism. this is how enslavement of humans follows from the abuse of animals and can not be solved without respecting animals. it is interesting how some of the countries most readily locking down and killing the eldely are also the biggest meat eaters. america comes to mind where they seldom even think of the effect they are having abroad. https://youtube.com/embed/_081JHLVCL0

Calamity Jane
Calamity Jane
Jul 12, 2020 6:23 PM

The whole world has been ” westernized” .
Disagree with article it seems to have lost the plot and turned the govt ” diversity” moment which is so the fascist govt can seem “liberal, tolerant and progressive” when its not.
They are bring up words meaning different= diversity so people can feel human beings difference and not their similarity
.
People seeing( and judging) each other as just a skin color happens globally. Its not a western thing.The false unspoken assumption here is that black skinned people cant be racist.Anyone regardless of skin color can be ignorant .
The more you identify with a race, a disability or a nationality the more problems with this concept diversity.Which is a focus on difference instead of first seeing our humanity( sameness)
 

ame
ame
Jul 12, 2020 6:00 PM

i found the article anti Semitic

Londonistan
Londonistan
Jul 12, 2020 10:52 PM
Reply to  ame

Lol, I think your humour was lost on a few downvoters.

sandy sanders
sandy sanders
Jul 12, 2020 5:43 PM

“Demonstrating against racism in our communities or attending diversity and inclusion training courses is largely pointless.”
 
I agree with everything in the article except the above shadow of white (capitalist) supremacy that unconsciously casts itself over the privileged within Western societies. I agree that class bias and external pursuit of empire and exploitation of the other for profit identifies the greatest obstacle to universal equality. But the working classes, the 99% of the world, would much better cultivate universal solidarity by embracing any of the victimized harassing empire out of power. To find oneself marginalizing comrade efforts because one’s prognosis of the root problem is superior, is in itself a form of ego-racism. We need to empathize and see broken windows and discomfort as an opportunity to demand self-rule via direct democracy vote on Policy & Budget. We can only solve the root problem of a capitalist totality by empathizing with the concerns of all wthin the bottom 90% of the world.
 
Racism is systemic in Western Empire. But in the US, POC literally risk their lives walking out their front door each day. In the US individual racism is cultivated by the system to keep society fractured, off-ballance and incapable of taking over decision making. To see protest against racism as pointless is to undermine humanity’s ability to achieve egalitarianism.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 12, 2020 5:54 PM
Reply to  sandy sanders

Racism might be systemic where you live, but it ain’t where I live in England.

sandy sanders
sandy sanders
Jul 12, 2020 8:40 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

So the UK systemic colonizations across the globe are not racist and the reaction to that deconstruction of colonized regions with profit extraction to UK, immigration to the UK, is not responded to with racism from UK public? Right.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 12, 2020 10:55 PM
Reply to  sandy sanders

back in the 60s they would put on rental adverts; no niggers, wogs. it was very different back then. think it is quite different to america. these days there is the whole east europeans are taking jobs claims but that is not necesarily full on racism but fake news. the more people there are the more jobs there are. its like if you 2 people there is twice as much washing up to do. if your not doing any its coz you cant be bothered. no its more a political ploy. actual racism is like when someone fails you in an exam coz they are nationalists when the actual work was good. taking jobs is more a claim of racism towards the locals not that likely to exist.

sandy
sandy
Jul 13, 2020 8:55 PM
Reply to  Rachel

As i can see here the respondents from Europe are incredibly uneducated as to their 500+ year systemic empire of exploitative imperialist colonizing of the world. Since you haven’t had to live with those you exploited like we have in the US who we live side by side with, you now get a dose of having to experience the blow back at home of the effects of your Empire abroad. Western Empire has so overexploited Earth that those you exploited are now at your doorstep asking for work because your Empire has destroyed their local previously sustainable region. Y’all lack understanding of the colonial settler mindset downloaded onto you from your 500+ year ruling elite 1%.
 
To get your humanity up to speed with full awareness of the nature of racist white supremacy I recommend the “Autobiography of Malcolm X”, the “Autobiography of Frederick Douglass”, Michelle Alexander’s “The New Jim Crow”, and if you really want to understand what’s happening to your mind in the 21st C read “I Mix What I Like” by Jared Ball. (And many, many more.)
 
Seriously, this is not about you. It’s about your 500+years of social programming which you have the ability to understand and change.
 

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 14, 2020 12:29 PM
Reply to  Rachel

You spelt n****** incorrectly dumb ass

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 13, 2020 10:21 PM
Reply to  sandy sanders

do you live here?

sandy
sandy
Jul 14, 2020 10:42 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

I live in the Northwest USA.
 

paul
paul
Jul 15, 2020 8:40 PM
Reply to  sandy

The whitest part of the country. Try relocating to Atlanta to experience the bliss of Wakanda style Atlanta.

sandys
sandys
Jul 15, 2020 9:45 PM
Reply to  paul

I was gentrified out of Oakland and had to move north. My soul is still there. The most radical community i’ve experienced. I love Oaktown! …been to Atlanta just passing thru tho.

paul
paul
Jul 16, 2020 8:14 PM
Reply to  sandys

No, you need to relocate to Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit.
ABCD. Try all 4 in turn to get the real black paradise experience.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Jul 12, 2020 10:28 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Unless you are an ethnic minority you will not know for sure, but I havent seen a town yet where a coloured guy walks down a road and a white guy does not check his pocket to see if his wallet is still there, I don’t know of a town where a flat is for rent and when a coloured person turns up, it is no longer for rent, I certainly don’t know of any town where coloured guys don’t get stopped by the police for any other reason than being coloured, maybe you need to look around more, unintentional racism is everywhere.
 
There was an experiment done in america after the shooting of MLK, Jane Elliot, the results showed that those who experience discrimination are much less likely to discriminate, one would think her experiment would be taught in every corner of the world but it never gets a look in, govt needs people to be racists, to discriminate as it takes peoples attention away from what they are doing.
 
 

paul
paul
Jul 12, 2020 6:53 PM
Reply to  sandy sanders

Yes, that’s certainly true. I’m sure the 2,400 black people in Chicago who walked out of their front door only to be murdered by other blacks last year would agree with you.
But those Black Lives Don’t Matter.
Unlike the 9 unarmed blacks killed by police.
Those Black Lives matter.
Unlike all the White Lives murdered, robbed and raped by blacks.

sandy sanders
sandy sanders
Jul 12, 2020 8:42 PM
Reply to  paul

You are brainwashed by media with facts that are jumbled into a self defense of white supremacy.

Londonistan
Londonistan
Jul 12, 2020 10:54 PM
Reply to  sandy sanders

Sandy,
 
Do you prefer to dye your hair blue or pink, or is it currently shaved?
 
Just asking…………..

sandy
sandy
Jul 13, 2020 9:05 PM
Reply to  Londonistan

You are wrong on all counts. So you don’t have something to say?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 14, 2020 12:31 PM
Reply to  Londonistan

Simply adhom- tosser.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 12, 2020 5:34 PM

I have lived, worked, travelled, gone on holiday with, been camping with, and even shared the same tent, and even went to school and university with people of all races, colours, religions, cultures in my 66 years, and I do not need to read all of such long boring articles as this, to re-educate me.
 
Thanks,
 
Tony
 
 

Žil som, pracoval, cestoval som, chodil som na dovolenku, kempoval som a zdieľal som ten istý stan, dokonca som chodil do školy a univerzity s ľuďmi všetkých rás, farieb, náboženstiev, kultúr za mojich 66 rokov a ja nemusím si prečítať všetky také nudné články, ako je tento, aby ma znovu vzdelávali.


Vďaka,


tony

 
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Edwige
Edwige
Jul 12, 2020 5:18 PM

Diversity training as exercised by the city of Seattle:
 
https://www.city-journal.org/seattle-interrupting-whiteness-training

jen
jen
Jul 12, 2020 4:49 PM

Good article. I get what you’re saying about how ‘woke whiteness’ around diversity & BLM is a way white ‘wokers’ can deflect from confronting eg. USA’s foreign policy crimes that have killed millions & destroyed nations. But that doesn’t mean that in the USA, African Americans don’t suffer from systemic racism economically, when voting, employment, incarceration etc.

Darren Hiebert
Darren Hiebert
Jul 12, 2020 5:57 PM
Reply to  jen

I wish we would start to talk about the WEALTH INEQUALITY GAP instead of low vibration punching bags like “race”. I think folks might be gobsmacked by how many whites live among the bottom 33% of the economic rung. When we all figure out our real problem, race might not be the issue

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 12, 2020 7:48 PM
Reply to  Darren Hiebert

i think it is devaluing to equate wealth with financial assets. devaluing for those who have wealth of other sorts and giving those with only financial assets a false sense of success and superiority. it is what value is placed on that matters explaining how you can get a chart like that.

Reg
Reg
Jul 12, 2020 4:09 PM

Off topic but since we live in evil times where our future depends on whether we succeed in getting rid of the poison that’s coursing through our world, here’s something insanely creepy . . .

https://www.brighteon.com/77e3f4cd-5392-4f69-b997-36b050d2e910

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Jul 12, 2020 4:42 PM
Reply to  Reg

Wow that’s super creepy

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 12, 2020 5:03 PM
Reply to  Reg

It’s inevitable that the Internet serves as a way to market and sell people, just like any other product. One of Epstein’s planes shared a tail number with the State Department and with military contractor Dyncorp, accused of trafficking in Bosnian girls under cover of a UN project to combat trafficking. The military is one of the main conduits for trafficking of drugs and people. The military set up the Internet. Evil times, indeed.
 
This is a similar story to a child clothing site that was accessible via Google images but if you added a term to the search string took you to images not of the clothes but of children. https://www.bitchute.com/video/WQS8pQHlqcXL/

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 12, 2020 6:22 PM
Reply to  Reg

I had already read this bollocks elsewhere. It is almost completely content free. Do you know, how easy it is to set up a company, and even to advertise my old cats, cars or anything for sale, at a ridiculously inflated price??
 
Try ebay for a test..and start on the most expensive for the same thing, the cheapest of which is £9.87 or in US Dollars $987
 
I am in no way denigrating the content, and am quite partial to a glass of red wine, and a Mushroom Pizza in Pizza Express Resteraunt on the way back from a gig – or even fish & chips. Yeh I read some of the Podesta Crap, but it merely reminded me of Andy Warhol, and I did not like his film Flesh, when I went to see it at a cinema in Manchester when I was 16, with several boys and girls in my class at College, when I joined the Film Society. It made us all so embarrased. It made us all feel sick.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesh_(1968_film)
 
The vast majority of people I have ever met, are extremely protective to Children, especially in foreign lands.
 
However, I have never been to the USA, and have absolutely no desire to. My 12 year old son, went with the local Scout Group in the Year 2000 and told me what it was like.
 
Tony
 
 

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 12, 2020 7:01 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Freddy Mercury should still be alive, and he probably still would be, except for the prescribed drugs he used from the doctor. Absolutely no one could give a sh!t about the fact that he might have been a bit gay, and I have kind of met Brian May – well my wife has. I could see her talking to him at the mixing desk when Def Leppard were on – who are extremly good live. The bouncers were trying to throw me out at the time. I do have a muscular problem, and my breath did smell of alcohol. It was dark, and I had lost my wife at Wembley Arena. I said look mate, I have got my wife’s train ticket to get home, and she never carries any money. The security guard says O.K. – phone her up, and to my amazement she answered the bloody phone, so I was escorted to her…Do you know this man?
 
I took my walking stick the next time.
 
I can’t stand sitting in seats at rock gigs.
 
You might as well watch it on the Telly.
 
Tony

Voz a0db
Voz a0db
Jul 12, 2020 3:51 PM

It just means another form of division that will create the usual FUN stuff divisions always create!

Juua Calling
Juua Calling
Jul 12, 2020 3:51 PM

Diversity and inclusion – to me- means that the stuffed suits are still busy earning their blood money for their determined efforts to socailly enhineer everyone.  It’s never been easier to hit a big demographic now that we have most people living on the internet.Hit one mob and they’ll send yet another annoying pandemic global in an hour and you’ve hit the biggest demographic imaginable. It’s never been easier. If you want the majority of the world to fill their head with meaningless crap, put it online and add a few words that make the idea sound vaguely intellectual and there’s a whole horde waiting to sound just as intellectual by posting it on their ultra important Twitter / Facebook / Instagram account. They don’t require fact checkers either.The only fact that concernes them is whether or not they come across as trendy or ‘evolved’ and impressive.It’s never been so trendy to be ouraged as it is now.
 
I remember when i was a small boy. I went to a large inner city school and i can’t remember seeing more than one( two at most ) non-white face in the playground.But the face belonged to a kid who wasn’t treated any differently to anyone else. He had as many friends,Now it’s about 50% mixed race here.And they also get treated like anyone else.
 
It wasn’t always like that. Racism was rife in the UK in the 1950s.All because of wrongly formed impressions fed to us by badly informed or biased / racist propaganda.Even now it’s hard to watch old black and white footage from America in the 1960s and see black men being freely attacked and beaten by police just for walking down the street. Or the makeshift signs in cafe windows or near publice drinking fountains stating that they were for ‘whites only’ – but in less tacful language. It was immoral. Any kind of segregation based on anything so shallow is.The only people who should be segregated are those who pose a danger or menace to society, and we have prisons for that.It was going to take some strong men and women to climb the mounatin that was racism. But they existed,
 
Pivotal to the change in the US were Martin Luther King Jr and president John F Kennedy and his brother Bobby.
 
Over 50 years have passed since the civil rights bill was signed after long, hard campaigning and far too much blood being spilled.There was one iconic moment in it all.It was that brilliantly crafted speech delivered with undiluted passion by Martin Luther King.The speech in which he shared his vision with the world. It was a captivating, mesmerising speech and the world hung on every word.To this day that speech resonates just as loudly and just as clearly.It was MLK’s gift to a world that needed justice, humanity, and peace.It probably sealed his fate. The president and his brother were caught in the insane crossfire of the 1960s storm too .They would all fall to the gun before the 1960s were over.
 
Black and White have, in the main, got along fine generation by generation ever since that decade.Racism has lost any momentum it had, bit by bit.Todays children would be unaware of differences( or ‘diversity) if they weren’t taught it in school.They’d be happy to get along and, unhampered by adults with their own issues, would carry that in to adulthood.Children just want to smile, act crazy and play.They want to laugh and run around.It’s in their DNA.And if you let them- that’s what they’ll do.They don’t need to be introduced to tribalism, sexuality or anything else that adults have difficulties with.They don’t need that crap inflicted on them.The world grows cold and dangerous anyway once you step into adulthood.Let them at least be children.Children need to be educated, not indoctrinated.
 
History is about things that happened in the past. It’s dead and buried. Let it rest. What good came of history can be talked about and taught. That way nothing died in vain.But to dwell on the conflict and inhumanity and injustice that brought about suffering instead is to deliberately obscure or forget the good that came of it.
 
There is one powerful and important line in that MLK speech :
 
”I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”
 
And there it is. Because we are what we do and what we think and how we act.Not what colour we are.We are how we treat others. What we give.And, when you consider these qualities, it shines a blinding light on the shallowness and futility of considering the shade of a man’s flesh.And when i see anyone today ‘taking the knee’ because they read about it on the internet or saw a melodrmatic sportsman striking the pose for camera time and to elevate his online profile It annoys me. It emphasises the difference between black and white. It’s reminding of us of the conflicts before the change.It’s talking about the white privilege, which is the well chosen euphemism for the word ‘oppressor’. It emphasies that black lives matter as though white oppresssion is as rife now as it was then. It tells you to concentrate on the differences. The differencs are like the differences between black and white. And as you do and as it becomes yet another social meme, you’re ignoring the essence of the message that cost Martin Luther King his life.
 
Nobody is talking about the content of character mattering more than the colour of skin.They’re taking the knee and pushing it down on King’s victorious crusade until that too gasps it’s final breath
 
Only one ‘group’ want to make outrage and divisiveness a dominant social and global trend. Only one group would benefit from fomenting conflicts. That group is the group that has little regard for any group other than it’s own. That group sees the human race as a group that needs to be divided into castes and held down as one by restrictive laws and regulations and an army dressed as ‘social policemen’ they can later claim we brought about ourselves by fighting with each other.
 
City rises against city, country agsinst country and race against race. It’s a global phenomenon that has needed heavy financing.A long psyop that’s taken generations and the observations of ‘behavioural scientists’. And, as the people retreat to the peace and tranquilty of their home, they are confronted by the same engineering waiting online.The same agitators. The agents provocateur..And the aim is the same. Because, as most move to the online world and take their personal gripes with them, that too will require an excuse to have digital martial law imposed upon it as the big switch begins.Life is to be virtual and so too is mankind.Keep your eyes open for the group’s next moves to create new internet police.It’s imminent.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Jul 12, 2020 8:44 PM
Reply to  Juua Calling

And I apologise for spelling my own name incorrectly.I felt rebellious.Not anti semitic( despite how it sounded) 😉

Juua Calling
Juua Calling
Jul 12, 2020 3:31 PM

 

Nick
Nick
Jul 12, 2020 2:14 PM

Which nations in the world today do most to advance human rights, freedom of expression and respect for difference? These are the nations to support and be proud of. By contrast, nations which deny human rights and freedoms, which place whole minorities and critics who defy their control or even displease them into concentration camps, should be named and shamed as loudly as possible. So I hope you are also protesting Yellow Man Bad and fellow communists, not to mention all those Islamist tyrants executing gays, seeking supremacy in the Middle East, or openly promoting Israel’s annihilation.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 2:30 PM
Reply to  Nick

Which nations in the world today do most to advance human rights, freedom of expression and respect for difference?
 
I vote for Syria.
 
all those Islamist tyrants executing gays, seeking supremacy in the Middle East, or openly promoting Israel’s annihilation
 
Are you Nick Cohen, by any chance?

Mishko
Mishko
Jul 12, 2020 7:17 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

White Helmets Matter! (insofar propaganda and mindfuckery matters)

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Jul 12, 2020 3:11 PM
Reply to  Nick

Which nations in the world today do most to destroy human lives, and human beings? I’ll quote just one example, I could name many. Namely, the notorious interview with Madeleine Albright, one time US Secretary of State, when she was asked whether or not the deaths of 500,000.00 Iraqi children resulting from the US blockade (whoops, I meant sanctions of course) she answered – ‘yes, it was worth it.’ And that was just Iraq. Ms Albright was also the one who ordered the bombing and dismemberment of Yugoslavia, a country with no air defences. Just think about that. Bombing defenceless countries and the mass murder of children was okay according the barbarians in the Department of State. Who has systematically bombed countries, sanctioned countries which are not at war with the US and cannot fight back. Which countries has the US tried to overthrow more than 50 governments, interfered in democractic elections in at least 50 countires, attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders, dropped bombs on more than 30 countries, and attempted to surpress populist or nationalist movements in 20 countries, particularly in latin america.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 3:32 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Yugoslavia, a country with no air defences
 
this is not so; at the Belgrade aviation museum, you can see the remains of some of the NATO pirates that were shot out of the sky by the Yugoslav Federal Army, in 1999.
 
https://www.muzejvazduhoplovstva.org.rs/postavka_donja.php?jez=eng&id=1
 
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Ken Garoo
Ken Garoo
Jul 13, 2020 1:48 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 13, 2020 2:44 PM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

I recall seeing those signs at the anti-war demonstrations at the time, where I was apparently the only non-Serbian present. they assumed I was a counter-demonstrator, until I explained otherwise. such is the Western “left”. almost like their performance during the current Great Virus Pandemic.
 
I’ve tried to find verifiable information about the numbers and types of NATO pirates that were sadly unable to return to their bases, but haven’t found much. if anybody has references, please post them.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 13, 2020 3:03 PM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

[I’m getting tired of this “Awaiting for approval” business. I already know that the virus thing is a hoax, so why do I waste my time here? I think I’ll move to the Unz Review, where the claims of free speech are more than a pretence, and they don’t care if you criticize Those Who May Not Be Criticized. There’s no future in a “left” that can’t deal with rampaging elephants smashing up the entire landscape. One would have thought that it would be impossible to avoid the JQ after the recent unpleasantness in the British Labour Party, but apparently there are no issues so grossly obvious that they can’t be swept under the rug and ignored, while the whole society burns down around us.]

paul
paul
Jul 12, 2020 7:04 PM
Reply to  Nick

Are those Islamist tyrants the ones who are in bed with the Zionist Apartheid Regime, you know, the ones we prop up so they can carry on crucifying teenagers and starving millions in Yemen? Those ones?

Howard
Howard
Jul 12, 2020 1:27 PM

Diversity and Inclusion:
 
“You who are black: you must think as a black; and I will cherish you.”
“You who are female: you must think as a female; and I will cherish you.”
“You who are gay: you must think as a gay; and I will cherish you.”
 
“For each of you have been given a way to think based upon your own identity. Therefore, use it. But beware: none of you must ever think outside your given frame of reference, or I will cease to cherish you, and you will no longer be included.”
 
To which any rational human being would answer: “Thanks but no thanks.”
 

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  Howard
Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 12, 2020 1:26 PM

For too long what I’ll call the Woke Industry has been appropriating other people’s grievances to score vanity points in the game of political correctness.
 
Establishment Woke is cultural appropriation. It is taking the life experience of Black people about racism and adopting it, along with the lingo as if a well-off person, White or whatever, growing up in the stability of the nuclear family, walking safe streets, enjoying better life-chances at every step – can possibly perceive what gives rise to Black wokeness.
 
There. I do believe cultural appropriation is a thing. Of course, the concept is taken too far, as Thomas Sowell writes so eloquently. Ironically those who bang on about racism are often the worst offenders. That applies to the cultural elite regardless of their skin. In the view of Dr Shiva Ayyadurai, racism is not primarily about skin. It is about denying access to the goodies that the elite reserve to themselves. https://youtu.be/hsP1ufJJuek?t=1485
 
Kevin’s is a great article about a topic that’s hard to address: because of the manipulation that lies behind diversity training. The people who run the courses are dishonest. The academics who tout it have agendas, often financed by vested interests. A United Colors of Benetton billboard is a symbol of greater intellectual honesty.
 
There are real questions here that the Woke Industry is too chicken to answer: Is diversity the opposite of multiculturalism? Have we abandoned integration in favour of separate-but-equal? If integration is a goal, who decides what gets integrated: when you merge two piles of folders and some get stacked above others – who decides?
 
Not only does the Woke Industry hide behind politically correct euphemisms, its people are suspiciously quick to change their views in line with the latest dogma in 3rd, 4th and 5th-wave whatever studies and you already know that it won’t be long before LGBTQ gets restacked like slices of Bacon, Lettuce and Tomato in a burger bun. And all shall nod sagely.
 
I suspect such people are perfectly capable of adopting whatever fascist eugenics comes along to replace the current theories of adjusting outcomes for equity and privilege. Progressives did this before in the 1920s and 30s. They will change your status and language to suit and disguise their power grab, or rather the power for whom they pipe the tune.
 
Many of these academics claim to be Marxists seeking to change the world. If 30 years of social conditioning and managed outcomes in education and the workplace has failed to change humans (not forgetting the Bolsheviks’ 70-year effort) the policy ain’t working. Spouting identity politics (labels) and political correctness (newspeak) does not change unconscious bias. It covers it up.
 
Polls can show anything but they certainly do NOT show that the younger generations are ANY LESS RACIST than earlier generations. In the findings, economic self interest still trumps all. University of Maryland: Combating Implicit Bias in an Age of Millennials (PDF)
 
Like all types of surreptitious activity, racism is best defeated in the open. Sending students to hide in safe spaces and reintroducing segregation so that Blacks and Whites don’t have to interact is… … … I won’t even say.
 
The mildest criticism is that it’s virtue signaling. More trenchantly, I say it’s racism disguised as anti-racism. Projection is always the first tactic: find in others what you hide in yourself.
 
To be fair, some Black activists no longer seek integration. How that would work economically and socially, I won’t get into here, save to note that there were thriving Black cities during the Reconstruction era. I’ll take the leap and assume that they are not concerned with diversity and inclusion training.
 
Race matters if you are see value in segregation but what then do you teach in the corporate classroom? Presumably we no longer teach that race doesn’t matter but that race is central to identity. That inclusion is about working together based on our individual skills – but still acknowledging race.
 
Is that what BLM leaders mean by saying they are “trained Marxists”? If Marxists believe that you can influence the inheritance of acquired characteristics… from the individual to the species… aren’t they still acquired characteristics constituting ethnicity if not race? (1877 Notes to Anti-Dühring, Engels).
 
As equal opportunity morphed into affirmative action and then into managed outcomes, some activists became convinced that certain races do have “accumulated inheritance” that must be compensated for – or that acts as a credit to “level up” in the game of life.
 
HR managers are thus dishonest. They must come clean to the workforce and declare their commitment to one of the following: 1) to ignore race and focus on skills, or 2) identify new and varied skills that ethnic groups prioritize differently (see new research in IQ) or 3) disregard skills and determine outcomes based on race: not equal opportunity but equal outcomes, and more-equal-than-others’ outcomes – which is the corollary of “leveling up”.
 
More, with links, here: https://moneycircus.blogspot.com/2020/07/time-for-woke-industry-to-come-clean.html

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 2:18 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Progressives did this before in the 1920s and 30s. They will change your status and language to suit and disguise their power grab, or rather the power for whom they pipe the tune.
 
be careful, you’re coming close to mentioning some unmentionable subjects there.
 
which is very unfortunate, because the utterly useless “left” will remain utterly useless, unless and until it becomes possible to discuss the possibility that it might actually be very useful, but for purposes other than those advertised for the last hundred years.
 

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 2:57 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

from your extended article —
 
If a minority has a social norm such as first-cousin marriage that causes objective harm to that community …
 
what if the social norm in question is the sexual mutilation of infants, but nobody is allowed to talk about it, because that would allegedly constitute “racism”?
 
what kind of farcically fake “left” is incapable of dealing with grotesque human rights abuses like that? when does the f***ing elephant in the room become just too big to ignore, no matter how hard everybody tries, and it has to be admitted that “progressive” politics is a ridiculous cynical hoax, because it was subverted a long time ago, by a culture which is the diametrical opposite of everything the left used to stand for?
 


snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 3:14 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

oh, ffs. youtube link:
 
www . youtube . com / embed / FCuy163srRc

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 12, 2020 3:16 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

The left have been taken over by progressives, and progressives by technocrats. Where progressives began with a basic proposition: put science first, no religious dogma, just pure reason, they have become more reliant upon experts and models, and distanced from people. Progressives have retreated into technocracy.
 
As you say they are “incapable of dealing with grotesque human rights” because they are incapable of dealing with grotesque humans… or real humans at all.
 
From the Soros-linked website, OpenDemocracy:

“We can recite international treaties on human rights and see the injustices of the world through the lens of legal violations and redress. But when we have to reach into the emotions and values of our societies, we stutter and look for consultants to help us speak our minds.”

“That is the heart of the problem. Populists, Australian academic Benjamin Moffitt says, challenge the core technocratic belief that people distinguished by knowledge, training and standing are the right ones to ensure the proper functioning of society.”

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/frontline-insights/why-do-progressive-movements-struggle-answer-populists-because-they-are-technocrats/

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 12, 2020 3:43 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The left began, in large part, as a Christian movement. That is why I state, “The left have been taken over by progressives, and progressives by technocrats.” Oversimplifying to make a point, Christian socialists were driven by morality and religious conviction. Progressives by reason and reaction against religion. Technocrats by technical elitism and some would say scientism.
 
Ironically, scientism represents a quasi-religious faith in the ability of science to deliver positive outcomes (rather than its root as a rigorous method of inquiry) and so takes politics full-circle as a faith-driven determination to manage outcomes.
 

IANA
IANA
Jul 12, 2020 12:40 PM

To answer the question it means a tool to destroy the west, replace the indigenous culture of Britain and undermine the nation state.
 
There is an agenda at work and diversity and inclusion are its main weapons.
 
As a principle I have no issue say with immigration attracting the brightest and the best but the destruction of icons and the removal of statues and rewriting of history as a result is simply unacceptable.
 
As an example the state has prevented people attending the funerals and hospital beds of loved ones they have given approval to huge protests where no social distancing or enforcement has taken place. This is that same agenda in action.
 
 

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 12, 2020 12:27 PM

So few replies to this thoughtful essay. Anything you say could be pounced on by any one of hundreds of self righteous identity politicians crying death to the heretic. “Concentrating on the less important issues to the detriment of the more so” Isn’t that the zeitgeist of the present? The delusion of one way climate change shoved down our throats immediately springs to mind as a distraction from real environmental problems. A nebulous abstraction, impossible to prove one way or the other cleverly used to create two factions of a dialectic to pointlessly fight each other. This is the technique of the strategists who always get their way in the world without anyone knowing what’s going on. So subtle, so effective, we dig our own graves thinking we are digging the garden. Even when you are aware of it you often find yourself pushing one side that seems so right and the other so wrong.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 12:41 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

to create two factions of a dialectic to pointlessly fight each other
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that you yourself are just such a dialectician, since there are certainly not “hundreds” of identity-politicians involved in this discussion.
 
let the world-strategists be assured, there are indeed some people who know what’s going on.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 12, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

Not involved with the discussion, but reading and waiting to pounce on any political incorrectness. Seeing all the masked marauders infesting the streets, it sometimes seems that no one knows what’s going on.

Nick
Nick
Jul 12, 2020 2:33 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Do the ‘strategists’ you mention have a common world view and political objective? I’d say they do. Maybe you share my conviction that these elitists seek government control over people, not government controlled by people. No way can elitists seek or defend majority rule. If so, you may also share Ronald Reagan’s great truth that government is the problem, not the solution. The bigger the government, the greater the problem. Reagan did much more than most to bring down the USSR, one of the biggest governments and therefore greatest tyrannies in history. Ordinary people are always resisting control by elitists, and no elite threatens them more than those formed by communists. So do today’s strategists seek communist-style control?

Howard
Howard
Jul 12, 2020 3:39 PM
Reply to  Nick

Vis-a-vis Ronald Reagan and the USSR, I would argue that Mr Reagan’s greatest achievement is the same as all great achievements throughout history: being at the right place at the right time. There are moments when something simmering for decades or even centuries finally come to a boil. And whoever is standing next to the boiling pot gets credit for bringing it to a boil.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 12, 2020 4:39 PM
Reply to  Nick

I’d say a lot of them do, particularly those connected to the United Nations, which I think is the British Empire, which is not British! England was conquered by the Normans,who went on to take the whole of Britain. In the beginning, when they took London,they left “The City” alone, which makes me think that who ran The City also ran the Normans. So you see my idea of history is at variance with what we are told. I keep seeing~ what does diversity etc.mean at the top of the page, absolutely nothing to me but a big fat lie, like communism, it’s just slave bait! I don’t know anything about Reagan, I’m afraid.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Jul 12, 2020 7:13 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Good observation, the Saxon south of England had many nobles who backed William Bastard’s claim to the throne. The Angles, and the Norse-Gaels and Britons (Cumbric), of The North did not. They backed Harold Godwinson as he had removed his brother Tosti from the Earldom of Northumbria, for being too autocratic and too “Saxon”. Harold was wiser and more inclusive in his leadership.
 
During the Norman invasion, the population of the walled and well defended City of London was too large and violent for William’s mercenary army. The urban warfare needed to overcome it was also unsuitable for his mainly cavalry forces. So he laid siege to it, throwing up the motte and bailey fort that eventually became the Tower of London hard up against the wall. At this point he only occupied the south of England.
 
The Saxon leaders of the city then opened up negotiations with William, they were also sympathetic to his ambitions, and his desire to extend his campaign farther north. In return for keeping their tax privileges and ability to self-regulate, they offered him a generous loan on easy terms to further finance his campaign.
 
You are correct in your theory but it was ” … ‘what’ ran the City also ran the Normans.”, rather than “who”. It was the spirit of Avarice that they shared, present in the minds of both William and the City leaders, all they cared about was money. William was criticised for this by medieval Church historian Orderic Vitalis, he plainly states that William was “greedy for money”, and describes it as “most unkingly”.
 
The City of London sold out their countrymen in 1066 A.D. and threw in their lot with a tyrant who enslaved the rest of England. Serfdom was pure sophistry designed to get around the Church law stating that fellow Christians could not be enslaved. This unholy alliance has continued for nearly a thousand years, growing, and metastasising as the centuries rolled on, into the cancer at the heart of Britain and throughout the body politic.
 
We will not be free until this alliance, and their placemen running the web of deceit and corruption they have spawned, are emasculated. Note also that the greatest money laundering machines of the world financial system, used by the City and their corrupt clients, are Crown Dependencies.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Jul 12, 2020 7:39 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

… to continue:-
 
Yes, the “British” Empire was not British as you assert, the common people did not profit from it, it was a financial empire run by City merchants and the Monarchy’s allied “nobility”. When the expansionist phase of occupying overseas territory ended after WWII, the operation of the empire concentrated on the financial sphere, through the City of London.
 
The web of corruption that had spread throughout the world over the centuries has continued, finding many allies abroad. They all have one mind dominated by power and money, and all of the main protagonists, the super-rich, have no loyalty to any nation or state. Their aim is one world government, enabled through international financial and corporate law rather than domestic political means.
 
The super-rich want to replicate the hierarchic nature of corporate bodies in the system of government, with them at the pinnacle. Democracy is just window dressing, they own almost all the politicians, Corporatism is the objective of their new world order.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Jul 12, 2020 8:26 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Finally (sorry for the rant)
 
Identity politics is just more divide and rule tactics. All the successive empires have sought to emulate Rome, all of them have studied Rome’s tactics, and they perfected divide et imperium. Though in modern times they have reduced the public leader to a figurehead, the real power is now hidden. They learned that lesson from history, Caesar may now publicly fall, but his house, and the architect, remain.
 
Rome was also the first empire in history that did not proclaim a debt jubilee on the death of their leader, carrying the debts of usury on through time with all the attendant problems that entails. Problems the world are now facing on a scale never seen before. The successor empires to Rome also adopted this policy, including the centuries old financial empire now ruling us.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 12, 2020 9:30 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

I’m with you all the way, Nemo.I was looking for a concept to describe a force other than a physical enemy as an alternative and you hit it~ greed. I’m not certain that there isn’t an enemy though. I’m not sure who the Normans were,other than what we’re told. The attack by the Norse just before William’s was very well timed. I found it very difficult to get information on the London attack, yours seems quite detailed, where did you find it? I have no doubt that William sent a lot of agents with plenty of money and promises to the south coast well before invading, as Caesar must have done long before. William’s borrowing must have been pretty heavy to finance such a military endeavour and I bet he had to be fast and ruthless to keep up the repayments. Thanks for your detailed reply, it’s got me going again on the subject. I’m somewhat of a Sussex Saxon and I have my knife into the Normans!

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Jul 13, 2020 1:23 AM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Good to hear your verdict on the Normans, Nixon. Only a minority of the Saxons in the South supported William Bastard, Harold Godwinson was Saxon himself. The supporters were growing wealthy by cross channel trade and stood to gain plum positions in his new administration if William succeeded. Much as tribal leaders like Togidubnus would during the Roman invasion.
 
Tosti(g) was Harold’s brother, when Harold sacked him as Earl of Northumbria he was well pissed off, in the modern idiom. The Scandinavian and English nobility had intermarried in the preceding centuries, the Danelaw in The North effectively ran for around two centuries, with Anglian kings too occasionally. Tosti(g) was a Scandinavian name, even though he was a Saxon Earl, this shows his Scandinavian heritage.
 
Tosti then rebelled against his brother and headed north to Scotland, where he raised an army. The Scots also had some Scandinavian heritage too, Norse-Gaels. The last King of the Picts was raised in Ireland as a boy by his Irish relatives, this is why Gaelic began to be spoken in Scotland. Brythonic, like Cumbric and Cymraeg(Welsh), was the language of the Picts until then.
 
The Norsemen, Norse-Gaels, and Gaels (Scotti) were also a prominent force north of the border at that time. When the young Pictish prince came to power, a summit was held to find a peaceful way the Norsemen, Norse-Gaels, Gaels (Scotti), and Picts could co-exist. He then became the first King of “Scotland”, named so because the majority spoke Gaelic, the language of the Scotti.
 
Through these Scottish links with Scandinavia, Tosti sent messages of his intent to usurp his brother, Harold Godwinson, to Harold Hardrada, the new King of Denmark, asking for his help. Hardrada was also in touch with William, Duke of the Normans, as William was of Danish descent. It appears Hardrada and William both conspired together to carve up England and cut Tosti out, Hardrada taking the North and William taking the South.
 
Tosti then moved south into northern England, catching the Anglian Earls and their supporters by surprise, they were then defeated by him and his forces at the Battle of Fulford. Hardrada then sailed across the North Sea and set up camp in the north east of England at Stamford Bridge, to be joined by Tosti. William watched and waited.
 
Harold Godwinson then raised an army and marched north to Stamford Bridge in record time, catching Hardrada and his forces by surprise. A spectacular victory for Godwinson followed, Tosti was killed in the battle and Hardrada escaped by the skin of his teeth with only a handful of ships remaining from his huge invasion fleet.
 
William then made his move, crossing the channel while Harold was still in the North. He made a beachhead and waited for Harold, knowing his army would be exhausted by the 200 mile forced march up north, then the battle, and then the return journey.
 
Harold’s advisers pleaded with him to wait, knowing winter was drawing near, and suggested the best tactic was to rest and regroup, raise more forces, and then lay siege to William’s army, starving them out through the winter. Harold did not listen, he thought he was invincible after the defeat of Hardrada, who had a larger force than the English. The rest is history.
 
William Bastard was not a conqueror, he was a grubby little gold-digger, waiting until his opponent was exhausted, like some little pub thug, sneaking up behind a man who has been defending himself from two of his gang mates. There was no honour in his victory, neither in his subsequent oppressive rule.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Jul 13, 2020 1:34 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

I studied the “Dark Ages” in Britain for several years. They are only dark because the Normans destroyed most traces of the history of those times, but not all. Genocide (The Harrowing of The North) and Cultural Cleansing were almost immediately enacted after the Northern Rebels were defeated.
 
This is a rough outline from memory, I have written many thousands of words for a web site I am developing, but I will see if I can dig up some sources for you, but not tonight, it’s late. When I have some I will post another reply to you.
 
It’s good to hear from someone who remembers the Norman Yoke, William Bastard and the City of London are responsible for all the evils that have befallen the good, honest, common folk of Britain for the last thousand years.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Jul 13, 2020 1:52 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Keep that Seax sharp! 😉

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 13, 2020 1:57 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Funny that you should mention the seax. I looked it up and I have a machete which I suppose is a modern equivalent,fairly sharp too,to repel invaders! I think you should definitely go ahead with your website,your prose is clear and readable,moving like a river from source to sea (pardon the purple). You have the mind for it, I recognise it because I’m the opposite, I jump around like a grasshopper, reckless of time or custom, attracted by intensities of feeling or instinct. In short, I’m not one for the long haul!
I can just see Hardrada and the tanner’s son plotting to get rid of Tostig, while each was planning the demise of the other. Beasts of prey, creatures of expedience,short term thinkers. I sense behind them though, masters of the long game,even more ruthless. Eek! On the positive side, I have also felt the Laughter of the Gods.

paul
paul
Jul 13, 2020 8:03 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

William The Bastard massacred 300,000 of the 1.5 million population.
Shame Harold lost. Fighting 3 major battles in a month was just pushing things a bit too far.
Those Frenchies may have wished they hadn’t bothered at the end of the day. The final outcome of their 11th century mayhem was English armies rampaging through France for the next eight centuries.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 12, 2020 11:59 AM

Hello Admibs, my post has glitched into waiting for approval – just the one – replies seem to post.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jul 12, 2020 11:45 AM

Some football supporters paid to have a banner bearing the words ‘White Lives Matter’ flown over a ground during a match.

The pearl-clutching response on the Guardian’s comment threads was hilarious. :o)

Howard
Howard
Jul 12, 2020 3:40 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

The irony being, of course, that to the elites who (think they) run the world, NO Lives Matter but theirs.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jul 12, 2020 4:04 PM
Reply to  Howard

Indeed. I wonder what causes these people to become so detached from their basic humanity. I don’t use the word ”insane” lightly, but that’s what they are.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 13, 2020 1:22 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

‘Some football gammons..’

Corrected that for you.

You’re welcome

Mucho
Mucho
Jul 12, 2020 11:43 AM

I find the extreme hypocrisy from our politicians interesting, concerning racism. On one hand they can’t hide their eagerness to prove to the world and the nation how opposed to racism they are and how appalled they are by all forms of racism, but on the other hand, they fall over themselves and bend over backwards and get on their knees with their mouths wide open to be “friends” of the state of Israel, a nation which in their eyes can do no wrong, yet in reality Israel is arguably and probably factually the most racist nation on Earth. Shallow, gutless, pieces of turd, each and every one of them (the British politicans)

Mucho
Mucho
Jul 12, 2020 11:45 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Ditto the pondlife at the BBC

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Jul 12, 2020 9:27 PM
Reply to  Mucho

I share you sentiments about Israel, but “arguably and probably” are redundant qualifiers. Apartheid against Palestinians is written into Israeli law.
 
The same goes for the “Shallow, gutless, pieces of turd, …”, which is why I don’t watch or listen to them anymore. I would probably have said “pieces of shite” though, but I am probably not as polite, and I’m northern, and common. 😉
 
Israel will get unqualified support only as long as they are strategically useful. There will come a day when the hubris of Israeli politicians goes a step too far, probably a nuclear strike on Iran, even for their western supporters to stomach.
 
Then the whole world will turn on them.
 

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 12:19 PM
Reply to  Mucho

the operational meaning of political words such as “racism”, is determined by those with the political power to do so. though they may claim to be victims of “racism”, they will certainly never be perpetrators of it.

Nick
Nick
Jul 12, 2020 2:52 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Accusations of racism really should be made with careful reasoning and evidence, or you risk joining the bigots and parroting their hate. Saying ‘probably factually’ won’t stop slander spreading. Try consulting actual research on the world’s most racist nations, in which the western democratic nations that did most to end racism and intolerance around the world hardly figure, for obvious reasons.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/116644/the-most-racist-countries-in-the-world/

Howard
Howard
Jul 12, 2020 4:26 PM
Reply to  Nick

It’s always a thin line separating actual racism from other forms of prejudice which may superficially appear as racism. Xenophobia is always lurking just beneath the surface, as is religious and cultural intolerance.
 
Sometimes the most virulent forms of intolerance occur between groups which from the outside appear almost inseparable – such as Catholic/Protestant; Sunni/Shia; Tutsi/Hutu.
 
Examples of genuine racism almost always include legal separation by race. Putting members of a certain race at a 3/5 of a person level – as the US did blacks – leaves no doubt that racism is involved. Similarly, corralling a particular race/ethnicity into what amounts as an open air prison – as Israel has done to Palestinians – leaves no doubt.

jaz
jaz
Jul 15, 2020 1:35 PM
Reply to  Nick

funny how israel isn’t included in the list, but palestine is!

Seaweed
Seaweed
Jul 12, 2020 11:32 AM

Another quote from the RT article.
 
Undertaking ‘unconscious bias training’ has become a therapy of salvation widely promoted by leading members of the Anglo-American establishment. At dinner tables, members of the elite now exchange pleasantries about how they managed to get trained out of their bias.
 
 

Nick
Nick
Jul 12, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  Seaweed

Don’t forget the political affiliations of these elitists. Leftists, remainders and wokesters won’t ever say ‘Make Albion Great Again’. They are far more interested in absolving themselves of the sin of racism by attacking gammons and Little Englanders.

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 12, 2020 11:27 AM

“I attended a work training course on unconscious bias”.
 
One feature of the new totalitarianism is how much of it is going to be run by corporate HR departments. They’re the ones running courses, checking your Facebook and Twitter posting history, making sure you’re wearing the required wristband or T-shirt on the designated day etc. It’s less likely to be perceived as repression, isn’t covered by pesky protections like bills of rights – and hey, if you don’t like it you’re still free…. to have no job.
 
There are features of the old totalitarianism as well. Most people in the West probably think of Stalinist repression in terms of show trials and purges. In fact, “re-education” was more the norm for most of the citizenry. Sessions of self-criticism were followed by brow-beating harangues from officialdom. Throw in the use of the young as shock troops on the Cultural Revolution model and the new totalitarianism combines elements from the three dominant systems of the Twentieth Century. It’s one of the proofs that they were all ultimately parts of the same creature and why a conventional Left/Right analysis was a false paradigm.
 
Finally, there’s the imminent technocrat element to consider as well in that much of this will be run by A.I. I expect the A.I. alogorithms to be deliberatley sexist, racist and whatever other -ist is the order of the day. The MSM can then heroically expose it, a sense of victimhood can be further deepened and the whole cycle rinsed and repeated. The A.I. “debate” can then be coralled into “how can we make it work?” rather than “who wants this at all?” (much like the 5G “debate” and Huawei).

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 12, 2020 5:36 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Yes, rinse and repeat, it’s so mind numbingly mechanical it reminds me of school. Covid 20 brain detergent will wash whiter, coming to the market soon.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 12, 2020 11:14 AM

I think Kevin Smith makes all the correct observations and than applies inadvertent bias in the diagnoses of
‘…we in the West’.

He does try to get it right with
‘ The UK and the West…is against all of us.’
But misses!

As he does with
‘ a hot war with Russia, likely triggered by ‘humanitarian intervention’ in Syria or elsewhere. Or possibly with China, ’

That hot war has been happening – by proxy for decades using mercenaries and DS spooks in Europe, South America, Africa and Asia/Pacific. It got closer with the Afghanistan and ME escapade as the Russians and Chinese confounded the ‘U.K. and the West’ and ran into each other’s arms for common protection instead of recoiling as expected into a forced gladiatorial battle for the Robber Barons to than pick over their bones and grab the wealth. The EU also largely avoided joining in wholeheartedly- knowing that they were being targeted to not become an ever closer federal entity with independence of monetary control by the Dollar Alliance Proxy Power.

That hot war is now LOST by the ‘we’.

‘We’ are the ancient Anglo Imperialist and their Empire (upon which the sun is finally setting across Eurasia and the ME and soon Africa and the rest of South America) only the rancid 5+1 eyed relic remains as the disembodied extremities of that millennia of War, Nationalistic endeavour and pillage from remains of the Roman Empire from which we were embers fanned by the Westphalia Treaties creation of ‘nation states’ financed by the straddling financial ancient entities. Once they had destroyed their rivals threatening the lifting of their monopoly and consolidated ever since.

That imperial dream Empire is DEAD!

Long live the new all human empire!!

Nick
Nick
Jul 12, 2020 2:59 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

So do you welcome the Chinese eclipse of the evil west, or its peaceful takeover by Islam? I fear that gay marriage and other human rights may have little future.

paul
paul
Jul 12, 2020 7:17 PM
Reply to  Nick

It isn’t the Chinese who have slaughtered and enslaved their way across the planet for the past 500 years.
The Islamic world is either physically occupied, invaded, bombed and incinerated by the evil west, Palestine. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and the rest, or threatened with the same fate, Iran. Not much peace there.
Just so long as the Chosen Folk can grab everything they want.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 13, 2020 12:50 PM
Reply to  Nick

The SCO – Shanghai Coooeration Organisation- has a very clear ‘contract’ about a real ‘Rules Based’ common security and economic collaboration without exceptionalism for all members.

It does not care about religion or ethnicity just development and helping to lift the poorest.

It has had Chinese/Russian and Islamic central Asian members from the beginning – without rancour.

The fact that India and Pakistan and Iran are signed up, along with an ever growing numbers of ASEAN, African and South Americans ready to finally throw off the Dollar yoke is the nail in the ‘Western’ simulacrum of a ‘World’ body of equitable rules the UN, World Bank, IMF and its muscle Natzo.

Nick
Nick
Jul 12, 2020 3:03 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

So do you welcome a future ruled by Chinese communists and/or Islamists?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 13, 2020 10:20 PM
Reply to  Nick

If you insist.

Mina seyahi
Mina seyahi
Jul 12, 2020 11:05 AM

“If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no hart, and if you are not a conservative when old, you have no brain.”
Benjamin Disraeli.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 12, 2020 12:44 PM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

Oh dear, yet another made up quote.

Mina seyahi
Mina seyahi
Jul 12, 2020 12:58 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Yes, this quote gets attached to many names in different variations. In fact, they say it was a french academic Anselme Polycarpe Batbie who used this phrase in his work. Over time political terminology has changed but the meaning stays one and the same.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 12, 2020 1:09 PM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

You sound terribly modern and fashionable. Unashamedly pushing a false fact is the sort of behaviour the political media elite revel in.

Nick
Nick
Jul 12, 2020 3:04 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

What about the joke? Humour relies on evoking truth, right?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 13, 2020 11:28 AM
Reply to  Nick

What joke?
 
As for truth: it invariably involves a value judgement. I prefer accuracy to so called truth.

Mina seyahi
Mina seyahi
Jul 12, 2020 3:44 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

You are trying to shame me for stating a fact that you think is false. How very liberal

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 13, 2020 11:30 AM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

I am not a liberal.
 
However, it appears you might well be a liberal: you state a falsehood and when it is pointed out, you play the victim: how very fashionable.

Mina seyahi
Mina seyahi
Jul 13, 2020 1:06 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

This is getting very tiresome and pointless. With the liberal narrative that is in vogue at the moment liberals all over the world are trying downplay the fact that the over many many decades this liberal narrative has been criticised by great statesmen, politicians, writers like Mark Twain, Benjamin Disraeli, Winston Churchill. This particular quote is a particular pain in a liberal neck because it sums up liberalism in a short and precise way. This argument is a classic example of a “red herring ” psychological trick. “Who said it” being the red herring. Goodbye

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 13, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

Yet again you disingenuously pretend that peddling falsehoods is moral. It isn’t.

Mina seyahi
Mina seyahi
Jul 13, 2020 1:30 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Would you mind showing a scientific analysis of someone credible that would prove Benjamin Disraeli never said The Phrase

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 13, 2020 2:22 PM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

Oh dear, now you are pretending you do not know the rules of logic and think the burden of proof falls on me, and I have to prove a negative.
 
If you want to assert that Disraeli said it, it is for you to cite the evidence.

Mina seyahi
Mina seyahi
Jul 13, 2020 2:33 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

‘What? No? No facts?’- she cried with astonishment

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 13, 2020 2:37 PM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

How can I show that the the sentence is absent from all Disraeli’s recorded words? Obviously it is only possible to show his actual words.

Mina seyahi
Mina seyahi
Jul 13, 2020 3:21 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

So why did you start the argument then, if you yourself are not in possession of any facts that contradict my statment. Even if you are a scholar and studied every work produced by Disraeli you still cannot say with 100% certainty that the man never said or quoted the phrase – you weren’t present in those times. At least I can say I quoted a source and think it rings true because I did some study work on Disraeli, a staunch conservative

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 14, 2020 9:06 AM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

There is no evidence that Disraeli ever said it or anything like it. Indeed, there is no evidence of anyone claiming that Disraeli ever said it until the 1970s. There is lots of evidence of people just making up facts and of others repeating such falsehoods as though they were facts. Apparently some people do not have enough moral sense to appreciate that propagating falsehoods is immoral.

Mina seyahi
Mina seyahi
Jul 14, 2020 9:57 AM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

You accuse a person of being immoral and lying without any proof whatsoever. The above mentioned quote has been very popular and cited for 150 years at least. First documented in written work in France and then quoted by many great men in different variations. I definitely can’t claim to be an author of the quote so what do I do, I do a research and find out that there were many great people who said have used the phrase in the past including Benjamin Disraeli.
And believe me I will keep quoting Benjamin Disraeli in this particular instance. The man deplored liberals and so do I. The psychology behind your pathetic attack is very simple you absolutely hate the fact that someone with vast governing experience can call a liberal brainless. Only a brainless person can keep insisting on something that is just a hear and say and not a fact that you failed to produce.
I am absolutely not interested in your psychological problems and won’t open anything you send me in future. If you keep sparring with me for the sake of audience don’t bother they stopped paying attention to your bullshit long time ago.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 14, 2020 10:34 AM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

You are propagating a falsehood. I pointed that out and you resort to playing the victim. How very fashionable.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 12, 2020 2:46 PM
Reply to  Mina seyahi

Disraeli has some good quotes. One is from his novel Coningsby (1844). The bit that people don’t read is the 300 words that precede it, beginning: “A few years back we were applied to by Russia…
 
“So you see, my dear Coningsby, that the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.”
https://www.victorianlondon.org/etexts/disraeli/coningsby-0038.shtml

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 12, 2020 5:44 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Lots of very interesting stuff in that book but a lot of dull stretches in-between. Sidonia is presumed to be Rothschild but Sidon was a Phoenician city~ those who say they are Jews but are not?

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Jul 12, 2020 10:51 AM

Conservatives begin their criticism on liberals by first putting the word “liberal” in quotations or semi-quotations. As if saying that it’s not true liberalism. By the end of their articles, the quotations disappear–no more putting up a front. The right wingers do the same with the left.
 
In my view, liberalism is best defined as not being bound by tradition. Traditionalists–the conservatives–love tradition. They’re the ones who don’t like their statues taken down. whereas I don’t give a hoot if they’re blown up completely. If y’all love your statues of imperialists and colonialists so much, then stick them in a museum, is what I think.
It’s hard avoiding conservatives in the media I’m drawn to, the media which accepts conspiracy theory as potential conspiracy fact. Conservatives don’t like liberals, feminists, and gender identity issues. And they also are mostly “worshippers” (that’s their term, as slavery-sounding as it is). Though some are very vocal about not wanting war, and that’s where my mind meets with theirs.
No one is sowing seeds of division with me and conservatives. We are divided already. As a left wing, feminist, atheist who hasn’t spent more than five minutes in my life caring about gender identity, we’ll remain divided. So, I see the above article as another conservative vs liberal article with a reminder of humans suffering in wars. Wars, mind you, that are tradition in the west.

 

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 11:26 AM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

pay attention to gender identity, before it pays attention to you.
 
those who are not trans-inclusive, are trans-exclusive.
 
the Oppression Olympics have now concluded. to the victors, go the spoils.

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Jul 12, 2020 1:09 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

Oh, I know the traditionalists are terrified about gender-identity. I don’t care. There is no argument I’ve heard to make me care. Some people think fashion is very important, and the history of fashion is a history of human culture. That’s fine. Such an outlook on history is more interesting than watching the traditionalists worried that their ideas about men and women are questionable;)

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jul 12, 2020 2:45 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Statues of Columbus? Fine. I agree he was a slave-peddling murderer who was given too much credence.
Statues of Lincoln, Washington, Roosevelt, Fredrick Douglas, Jefferson?
Now we have problems.
So easy to critique some of these men as being slave owners (let alone the abolitionists), yet we forget that they escaped slave serfdom from feudalism and fought hard so we could have a federation, a bill of rights, and a 3 headed government, though not perfect. The ideals are the best we’ve seen in world history.
Yes, rife with corruption, criminal justice injustice, institutionalized racism… But I guarantee that whatever these radical activists want to put in it’s place is FAR worse – especially given the context this activism is being done.
If this is allowed to continue, we will have smart digital prison cities, biometric passports for local travel, weaponized healthcare (I suppose that isn’t new), controlled euthanasia eugenics programs (so much for “liberal” {yes quotes} egalitarianism amongst the elderly, handicapped, and other inferior genotypes), monotony of food, quarantine gulags, no control over our own health, propagandized education, and a slide into world dictatorship.
 
I appreciate your writing Sharon, but GAWD flush that feminism crap down the toilet.
 

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Jul 12, 2020 3:15 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

And I appreciate your writing too, WorldParole:)
 
But I don’t care if statues of Lincoln representing the abolition of slavery stand, or if it represents the destruction of States’ rights, and therefore falls. In the U.S. statues of leaders are mostly statues of imperialism and colonialism. So they can be destroyed, as far as I’m concerned. If somebody wants to blow up Mount Rushmore, I say get all the animals far away from the blast site. That’s all.
 
Your concern for “…smart digital prison cities, biometric passports for local travel, weaponized healthcare, controlled euthanasia eugenics programs, monotony of food, quarantine gulags, no control over our own health, propagandized education, and a slide into world dictatorship”, is perfectly stated for me. My concerns as well. But to lay it at the feet of “liberals”, instead of easily saying, “neoliberals”, makes me think a conservative agenda is a part of your concerns.

Nick
Nick
Jul 12, 2020 3:20 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Would you welcome the destruction of Marx’s statue in Highgate Cemetery? I think leftists and feminists should make Karl their priority, as he was a notorious racist, misogynist and anti-Semite. His philosophy led to more than 100m deaths in the C20th and continues to found and drive communist China and other tyrannical regimes today. So it’s extremely hard to understand why leftists target figures like Lincoln, who famously freed the slaves, and Churchill, who did so much to save us from real tyrants and racists. And shouldn’t you oppose another Prophet, famous for having slaves, marrying 6 year old girls, and violently conquering whole nations? Could you be hating the wrong enemies, Sharon?

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Jul 12, 2020 3:41 PM
Reply to  Nick

“His philosophy led to more than 100m deaths in the C20th”
 
That’s just dumb.
Where to begin? I was a leftist for years before I started reading about the philosophy of Karl Marx three or four weeks ago. No, his philosophy is not responsible for anyone dying, Tipper;)
I do like this one from you:
“Churchill, who did so much to save us from real tyrants”
You actually typed that! lol

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 3:52 PM
Reply to  Nick

I was right, you are Nick Cohen.
 
here’s some anti-semitism for you:

Hal Draper — Marx and the Economic-Jew Stereotype

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 12, 2020 6:08 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

War is the tradition of the Sunderers, the psychopaths and their followers. As soon as you label yourself they’ll find another label to turn someone against you.

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Jul 12, 2020 8:42 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

In politics, everyone is labeled.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 14, 2020 12:05 AM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Ain’t that a good reason to avoid it? You might really hate me for this but feminism came from the communists in Russia, years ago,the idea was women would be the PROPERTY not of their husbands but of the state. Great eh? Out of the frying pan eh? Not one man you might chose but you can be the toy of the gang, bang, bang, bang. They’re a bunch of misogynists. They really hate women, no fear them. I don’t.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 12, 2020 10:35 AM

I do not know who the first person plural is that the author constantly refers to, but it does not include me.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jul 12, 2020 10:12 AM

Excellent Kevin…. I think my least favourite words by far in recent times are:
Woke. Virtue Signalling. Liberals.
All synonymous with one word: Hypocrisy.
Where were they all when Yemen was being bombed to rubble or children were dying in Iraq or other dead children and adults were appearing in White Helmets snuff movies, so these very same ‘woke’ liberals could loudly tut tut, and express their virtue signalling support for this truly odious, terrorist organisation.
Havn’t heard even one of them mention the slave markets in Libya, or who, exactly, destroyed that country. Rose McGowan? Bono? Meryl Streep? George Clooney? Anyone?
In my opinion, Identity Politics and the PC culture is not only incredibly shallow and narcissistic, it is also another form of fascism, because its about silencing others and its about censorship of any ‘unwoke’ points of view.
My whole philosophy is treat others as fellow human beings, regardless of their race, religion, age, sexuality; anything, and to treat them how you’d like that person to treat you.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 12, 2020 10:00 AM

“The world is a business” speech, 44 years ago, from Paddy Cheyefsky’s masterpiece, Network (1976)  
Jensen: You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no Third Worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.
It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet.
 
You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.
 
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there’s no war or famine, oppression or brutality — one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.

Beale: But why me?
 
Jensen: Because you’re on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.


Willem
Willem
Jul 12, 2020 10:08 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

One God, one vision, gimme fried chicken

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmwOFwBvQmI

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 12, 2020 10:18 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

SP: Chayefsky
 
The only person to win three solo Academy Awards for writing both adapted and original screenplays. Shame there was no award for searing honesty and brutal truth telling.

Diana’s signature idea, The Mao Tse-Tung Hour, which opens each week with film of an authentic act of terrorism (modeled on the famous 1974 footage of Patty Hearst robbing a bank together with her pals from the Symbionese Liberation Army)… Late in the movie, she learns to her dismay that paying terrorists who then use the money to commit felonies might make her criminally liable.

National Review misses Chayevsky’s point – that terror events were and are often staged. Still, this recent article is worth reading in the context of propaganda.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/what-network-got-wrong/

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Jul 12, 2020 9:13 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Network” was an amazing glimpse into a future that would eventually give us the likes of Glenn Beck and Rachel Maddow doing their semi-psychotic “mad as hell” shtick’s for the masses both conservative and liberal. I just watched it again a few months ago and couldn’t believe how spot on the money Chayevsky was. Amazing.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 12, 2020 11:23 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“ I have seen the light of God “ as Beale loses his mind to the devil incarnate- having realised the big lie
The message being blow your own brains out – because it is madness carrying on complying with the ancient powers – and they won’t care how you die anyway. They never cared.

Rebellion directly against these very few persons is the only answer – not against any of the smoke and mirrors phantoms they present to be targets.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Jul 12, 2020 12:52 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I like the bit where Mr Jensen blasts out at full volume: AND YOU WILL ATONE!!!

Ort
Ort
Jul 12, 2020 10:30 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Or, as shady entrepreneur Milo Minderbinder, founder of “M&M Enterprises”*, explained in Joseph Heller’s novel Catch-22: “I don’t make the profit. The syndicate makes the profit. And everybody has a share.”
 
* “The ‘M&M’ in ‘M&M Enterprises’ stood for Milo & Minderbinder, and the ‘&’ was inserted, Milo revealed candidly, to nullify any impression that the syndicate was a one-man operation.”

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Jul 12, 2020 8:52 AM

Yes, a hot war with Russia and all it entails is a real possibility. A war with a protagonist who possesses in excess of six thousand nuclear warheads doesn’t seem to be a particularly good idea. Unfortunately the PTB seem to think that it is. They are either completely insane or think that Russia is going to surrender. I think the former. Foreign policy is now in the hands of a completely insane clique who live in another world and are quite demented enough to start such a final conflict.
 
Another related issue is the establishment take on the middle-east situation. It is assumed that ‘US’ the good guys are waging a war on bad guys including ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Conveniently missed out is the fact that the Jihadists are the American Foreign Legion, trained, armed and paid for by the Saudi-American axis. How come these woke warriors missed that elephant in the room? It must have utilised a very sophisticated type of double-think.
 
Yes the MSM is playing a crucial role in getting the populations of the west prepped up for a real shooting war. To paraphrase Eliot ‘This is the way the world ends, not with a whimper but a bang.
 
 

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 9:57 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

the Jihadists are the American Foreign Legion, trained, armed and paid for by the Saudi-American axis. How come these woke warriors missed that elephant in the room?
 
if one were to reflect on what other country might expect to benefit from the Jihadi conquest of Syria, and then on the source of the recent disturbances in the British Labour Party, and then again on possible over-representation of certain ethnicities in identity-politics academia, one might then arrive at a possible answer to that question.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Jul 12, 2020 10:22 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

If conventional Russia or China would kick our heads right in, if Nuclear we all get to have a good glow in the dark. War with Russia is insane but I have felt this was always the game the UK has been promoting, poking the bear, hoping it reacts then start the finger pointing and demonising, dehumanisation of Russia and its peoples, but Russia has played a blinder, I think most who followed Syria will be more than aware how the west financed and armed al-qaeda, look at the alleged bombing campaign, in which years of alleged bombing of the terrorist groups saw them grow greater in numbers, become better armed and gained a lot of ground. Then Russia entered the theatre and reversed what the west had engineered within just 6 months with far less resources than the coalition forces. I even recall how the gruan ran an article claiming that the extemists only grew beards and were only pretending to be extremists because they wanted to be better armed, incredible, the world cup, the skirpals etc, lunatics at the helm but we always knew that.
 
 
 

Simon Dutton
Simon Dutton
Jul 12, 2020 12:30 PM
Reply to  P R Ivy

Instructive video of Putin at a press conference. Bonus: he tears the BBC’s John Simpson at least two new arseholes and perhaps more.
 
https://youtu.be/1IC730fsoYo

paul
paul
Jul 12, 2020 7:33 PM
Reply to  P R Ivy

Were okay. We’ve got Gavin Williamson, and he’ll show Johnny Russian and Johnny Chinaman what’s what.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 12, 2020 11:33 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Never going to happen.

The warmongering global robber barons are FEW and the Russians and Chinese know who they are and where they live and hide – no bunker, super yacht , secret island is safe enough in the modern world where hypersonic intercontinental cruise missiles can be sent to destroy them and their progeny – largely avoiding innocent civilian collateral murder.

They know it – hence they are sulkily surrendering- with a few rogue generals and quislings who think they have real power to defeat the Russians, Chinese, Ancient Babylonians and Aztecs and Incas.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jul 12, 2020 4:00 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

that’s a cheerful thought.
 
let’s hope that they’ve sent all the appropriate people personal messages, letting them know that if and when the time comes, they and their families will be the first to be incinerated.
 


Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jul 13, 2020 12:33 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

The word is already out.

That is why the declining empire is in retreat and trying to double down at ‘home’ – it is the root of BrexShittery alt-right billionaire funded agitprop by the frontmen Luke Bannon and Fartage.

People are steal not seeing the wood for the trees a because they think a forest doesn’t move.

It is already too late for the gammons who have a very rude awakening coming when they realise they sold their souls to these ghouls.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 12, 2020 5:59 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

The same people own America Russia and China, I can’t see it getting hot but maybe biological.