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Defying the Mask Dictate

John Goss

It is not for me to tell others how to behave. For myself, however, I am unable to wear a face mask because of a medical condition.

Maskaphobia is a lot more common than people may think. It can start in childhood, get further endorsed in the dentist’s chair, by horror movies and scary images – an example might be the image of an executioner or a “wild animal in a black mask” to quote one of my favourite poets, George Ivanov (1894-1958). The condition is serious.

It has been announced that the wearing of face masks in shops will be compulsory from 24 July. This will make it intolerable for maskaphobes.

Other people wearing masks can only cause more stress for this growing sector of the population. Other illnesses, as well as maskaphobia, are made worse by the wearing of masks.

So is this directive from the government necessary?

The graph below charts the falling number of deaths where Covid-19 has been reported from 1 May to 7 July. I think people can see for themselves that this sudden imposition of face masks is a simple test to see just how simple, gullible and pliable to government dictates the UK populace is.

People with disabilities, including deaf, blind and paranoid, may suffer adversely from mask apparel. Other medical conditions which are exacerbated by the wearing of masks include asthma and respiratory illnesses. People with high blood pressure should not wear masks because added CO2 will increase their blood pressure.

Nearly everyone will have some condition which the wearing of face-masks will make worse.

Mine is not maskaphobia. Well not yet, though I do feel a strong aversion to masks, which is growing by the day. For me it is something else.

Medical conditions are private between you and your GP. You do not need to tell any third party what yours is. Explaining that you have one should be sufficient.

You can read more of John Goss’ work at his blog

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Epousedesacrecoeur
Epousedesacrecoeur
Jul 23, 2020 3:46 PM

The mask psyop we are all being subjected to is not only evil and immoral; it is also infuriating. Where I live, masks are now contingent on whether you can make a living, purchase merchandise, or enter stores. My employer(specifically, my former manager and the current department manager)told me at the end of May that if I refuse to wear a mask, I’ll be escorted out of the building. A few days ago, I went to a gas station to purchase sugar. They had that stupid sign on the front of the store that said No Mask No Service. I was already angry that morning due to being insulted by a cashier at work when I went to add sugar in my own water bottle filled with aloe vera drink because I asked why we needed to buy a styrofoam cup, pour my drink in that cup, and then add… Read more »

Nothoughtofmyown
Nothoughtofmyown
Jul 27, 2020 12:03 PM

But, But…..The Government sez so!

Sadly many people truely are beyond help – either through fear, ignorance, or learned submission (or all of the above).

If the Government says that you must hop on one leg whilst buying food many would do.

Crazy times.

Epousedesacrecoeur
Epousedesacrecoeur
Jul 27, 2020 1:15 PM

It is. I think part of the main problem with this is that the ruling oligarchs have convinced people that someone who is not sick of an imaginary virus is said somehow to have the virus, but yet have no symptoms. That doesn’t make any sense and I don’t understand how people don’t realize that a statement like that is illogical.

Most people believing in these lies have been causing problems for people who don’t buy into these lies. I’m
not that good at convincing people of the truth of things anyways; but I think it’s a waste of time convincing people that this covid-19 “pandemic” is a lie. Suddenly, doing normal, everyday activities is a crime if it isn’t done with a mask on.

Lllll
Lllll
Jul 19, 2020 6:05 PM

Attention, ladies! You will not find husbands anymore.

Gregorina Samsa
Gregorina Samsa
Jul 19, 2020 10:36 PM
Reply to  Lllll

I think I know what you mean and I am already married. Your words speak to how the Covid 19 operation is creating an odious rupture in human relations, sexuality and, above all, sensuality. Further, it also seems to be usurping the last drops of Alpha impulse in the heterosexual human male.
The mask has layers of symbolic meaning for our contemplation, not the least of which is the sado-masochistic dynamics between the shadow (masked) powers and their subjects, the people.

ak in VT
ak in VT
Jul 20, 2020 3:44 PM
Reply to  Lllll

I see many beautiful young ladies and handsome men coming out of their cars in parking lots. They step out of their different cars and then don a mask. I have said to my wife: How will they find a mate? They cover themselves up and no one sees how lovely they are. Sad. So sad.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jul 18, 2020 4:39 AM

A new law was introduced in Hong Kong this week that requires people to wear a mask on public transport.   In the subway this morning in Hong Kong, as the train arrives, a woman next to me tells me to put on a mask. I ask her “Are you the police?” She ignores my question and tells me to put on a mask. I again ask her if she is the police, again she tells me to put on a mask. So I tell her to “mind your own f**king business”. I then ask her “What happened to Freedom for Hong Kong? What happened to the campaign for freedom? Fuck off you Nazi?”   Yes, a bit over the top, but another busybody interfering in my life. These people are really beginning to piss me off.   The question I want to ask is why is it always women?… Read more »

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Jul 18, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Yes women being more fearful and in need of security and less apt at critical thinking are the perfect agent of the ***.
I say the above as a generalisation, I know there is a small percentage of women who are truly aware and freedom lovers.

John
John
Jul 18, 2020 1:00 AM

The face masks dehumanize, part of the face becomes de-individualized, so this has considerable psychological effect, also on the collective psyche. This should be seen not on itself, but is part of a process of de- humanization in other areas. Consider for instance the situation that the police becomes more and more equipped with a type of equipment, style of clothing, and a protective type of clothing or equipment which makes them look like sort of crude robo-cops.They are not exactly looking like your friendly neighborhood protector kind of guy, neither do they look like an unfriendly or all too austere one, they look neither positively nor negatively human, they look dehumanized and more completely standardized. There are other examples where due to professional activities, people wear outfits all day (too long) which have the effect of dehumanization and standardization (in labs for instance). There are also many situations where… Read more »

John
John
Jul 18, 2020 1:23 AM
Reply to  John

To add to the above, consider that the human face is the part which is most expressive of his being. The lower you go on the ladder of evolution of intelligence, like in animals, the less the face is expressive of individual traits, if even one could talk of a ‘face’, finally there are living beings even do not have something which could be called a face.

One could also wear these transparent protective shields of course, but these also signal fear based protective alertness, they signal aggression, distance through hard material, militarization, uniformization, de-individualization and so de-humanization.
You have to give up you individuality because of fear of death, and responsibility for the other, the most sophisticated trick the power hungry ever pulled on humanity.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jul 18, 2020 5:13 AM
Reply to  John

One of the false and hyper emotional arguments is the “you must protect the healthcare system so that there is a bed available when needed”. The argument is based on the premise that ill people have some sort of right to a hospital bed.   If you vote for a politician who is cutting back the NHS budget, do you still have a “right” to a bed? Beds cost money, tax payer money, there is no right to a bed in the same way that there is no right to a Ferrari.   The next counter argument is then usually something around the “preserving the precious resources we have” argument. The “we” is us as a unified family of people living in this country where all people have equal access to the available resources. Again, this is based on some “right” to resources.   The thinking assumes that the country… Read more »

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 18, 2020 9:22 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

the arguments are ridiculous but so too were the previously accepted ones eg. getting a measles jab to protect babies, visiting a dr that systematically tortures children with injections.

John
John
Jul 18, 2020 11:49 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Talking about collectives, ‘we’, and ‘unified family’. In some countries, like Belgium and The Netherlands, your body is assumed to be owned by the collective, as it becomes by law available for organ donation. Your body is seen as a source of replaceable organs. You can of course object to this, so that the collective ownership is canceled. About national health care systems, no matter in which country. National healthcare is derived from collective healthcare systems which originally sprang from a spirit of humanist solidarity, solidarity for those who would not afford it. Today, the spirit behind a collectively funded healthcare system, is the spirit of pocket filling, and corporate and institutional power. There are gigantic interests behind it, there are gigantic interests of industries, the medical, pharmaceutical en related industries behind it. And these industries are intertwined with politics. There are still some people working within this system who… Read more »

John
John
Jul 18, 2020 12:12 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Add to the below, the collective good argument is a reasoning which has a certain legitimacy in general. It also signals how big and responsible establishment and governmental authorities are. It gives them a certain air of worthy caretakers, and so, authoritative power. Add to that, the primary instinct of fear, officially they advise people to not be too fearful, but in contrary to that fear is invoked and distributed by the media constantly, and symbols of fear are everywhere (masks, regulation signs, measures of social distancing). So here again the authorities on appearance are officially not spreading fear, being big and responsible. Meanwhile, the legitimizing type of reasonings are enforced by mass fear spreading among he population. The collective good is not something so many people really care about, this is only a means to make it look worthy on appearance, but the individual primary instinct of fear, distributed… Read more »

Peter Westwood
Peter Westwood
Jul 17, 2020 11:25 PM

This is the time of great division, the time of engineered division, the time wherein our masters hope to identify, turn the mind-controlled masses against, and eliminate the last vestiges of free-willed and resistant human beings so that they might look forwards to a thousand year Reich of governance over a witless and acquiescent herd.
 
They plan a second pandemic.
HERE’S the evidence, the undeniable proof: 
http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-enemy-strategy.html
Watch Bill and Mel smirking about that here: 
http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com/2020/07/bill-melinda-gates-giggle-smirk-over.html
 
Unlike the first one, less lethal than the usual annual flu but still enough to scare the witless masses into abject submission, the next one (as Bill tells us smilingly) will “make us take notice”.
This second wave will occur this year, as written in their plans.
We guess around October/November time.
Therefore OUR TIME must be then.
11:11
https://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com/2020/07/tragedy-and-hope.html

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 18, 2020 4:31 AM
Reply to  Peter Westwood

people get detox symptoms due to acidosis. nothing to do with any virus. covid19 like any other threatened virus or anual flu is science fiction.

1&onlybillyshears
1&onlybillyshears
Jul 18, 2020 9:31 AM
Reply to  Rachel

Makes sense – any further reading on this?

Sam
Sam
Jul 17, 2020 11:06 PM

If you hate wearing a mask, you’re really not going to like the ventilator.

Tony
Tony
Jul 17, 2020 11:14 PM
Reply to  Sam

Is that a threat? A bit like “If you don’t do what we want you to do, we will waterboard you.”?

Sam
Sam
Jul 18, 2020 8:59 AM
Reply to  Tony

Is that a strawman? yes it is.

Basher
Basher
Jul 19, 2020 4:48 PM
Reply to  Sam

Jump? How high?

JBnID
JBnID
Jul 17, 2020 8:29 PM

There are not three people in the world that can PUT a mask on me. NO way!!

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 17, 2020 4:59 PM

A demonstration has been organised to take place in Hyde Park this Sunday, starting at 1 p.m. London-based OffG readers may wish to attend. The Keep Britain Free website is the brainchild of Simon Dolan.
 
https://www.keepbritainfree.com/post/keep-britain-free-demo

Mil
Mil
Jul 17, 2020 7:58 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Wish I could attend but I will certainly let my friends know. Hope that many people will show up. Thanks for letting everyone know

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 17, 2020 8:43 PM
Reply to  Mil

My pleasure, Mil. The least I could do. I just wish a demo could be organised in the North West (Liverpool, Chester or Manchester) in reach of where I live in North Wales. I would definitely go along.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jul 17, 2020 3:27 PM

I realise this article is a couple of days old but my tardy post is on topic.
 
A friend in the UK just informed me that his wife was refused an eye test unless she wore a face mask!
 
What kind of fucked-up situation is this “New Normal”?
 
Blackmailing people into wearing masks by withholding essential medical services until they comply?
 
Send those fuckers to hell, where they shall rot for all eternity.

Mil
Mil
Jul 17, 2020 8:02 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

I’m sure the same will follow with the vaccine and this may just be step 1. Hell sounds like the right place yes

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 17, 2020 3:09 PM

It is sad to view the mathematically illiterate ramblings of a paranoid public, when a simple examination of mask porosity versus viral scale would clarify the issue. Cloth masks have about the same efficacy against viruses as a bug screen. >
 
From: Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy
Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data
Filed Under: COVID-19
Lisa M Brosseau, ScD, and Margaret Sietsema, PhD
April 01, 2020
 
Dr. Brosseau is a national expert on respiratory protection and infectious diseases and professor (retired), University of Illinois at Chicago.
Dr. Sietsema is also an expert on respiratory protection and an assistant professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
 
Complete text: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data
 
Most persons commenting on this site know the “disease” is not a virus at all. The disease is man’s insistence upon organisational mandate and enforced thuggery, rather than individual liberty and inspired self rule…

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 18, 2020 6:12 AM
Kalen
Kalen
Jul 17, 2020 1:07 PM

From Daily Mail: Sane beachgoers refuse to be muzzled.

California beachgoers have been filmed refusing free masks in a county where they are required..

In a video posted online Tuesday by YouTubers Chad Kroeger and JT Parr, a number of people on Huntington Beach turn down the offer of the face coverings.

One couple, refusing masks, say they ‘are killing us’; another man says coronavirus ‘is a f***ing lie’. One beachgoer even offers to fight the two YouTubers. Masks are required while out in public in Orange County, where the clip was shot.

covidiot
covidiot
Jul 17, 2020 3:02 PM
Reply to  Kalen

IANA
IANA
Jul 17, 2020 4:55 PM
Reply to  covidiot

Not sure if Bill and Ted is some sort of wind up but some sound responses there at least.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 17, 2020 5:43 PM
Reply to  IANA

It’s definitely a spoof (Chad & JT ‘video viral activists’) but judging from the BTL comments under the YouTube podcast most people think they are deadly serious, and have commented on the idiots refusing to wear masks. Like you, I found the public’s reactions, that we saw, to be encouraging.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 17, 2020 8:49 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

…and have commented on “the idiots refusing to wear masks”.
 
Should have put this in quotes to clarify that that was the view of the YouTube BTL commenters, not me!

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jul 17, 2020 10:14 AM

A well produced six-minute video that challenges the dominant narrative about Covid-19 (s-called).
 
https://youtu.be/wPs3_0vPv90

Watt
Watt
Jul 20, 2020 12:43 AM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

Well watchable! Thanks

nouserid
nouserid
Jul 17, 2020 2:07 AM

Though many people may temporarily cooperate with mask wearing if that’s the only way they can get food to eat, if you read the comments all over the Internet, you don’t see much submissiveness, but ever increasing anger with the government handling of all this.   The public are now starting to wake up what has been done to them – the mass job and business losses, the cancelled tests and operations, and now this forcible mask wearing, that it is clear most don’t want, regardless of the lying polls, as they’ve mostly not been doing it so far out of choice. So whether their words said they agreed with it to pollsters, their actions said completely different.   So now millions are being forced to wear masks who never did before, the anger is starting to show.   And the more the public wake up, the angrier they are… Read more »

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 17, 2020 10:17 AM
Reply to  nouserid

There there normies stay asleep normies it will all be ok.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jul 18, 2020 4:56 AM
Reply to  ZenPriest

An ex colleague of mine was reassuring me last night that Covid is getting worse: He knows this because he watches the morning covid briefing on CNN.
 
What can you do? He is a manager in an investment bank. Banks are very good at recruiting morons for management. He truely believes what CNN tells him, he is so out of touch – and frankly, a bit dim – that he doesn’t realise that telling me he watches CNN is not cool. A bit like boasting that “I heard it on the BBC so it must be true”.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 18, 2020 6:10 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Funny isn’t it. I grew up under the impression that the brightest go furthest, generally. Now I know that’s rubbish. What was the quote about all that’s needed for success is confidence and ignorance.
People like that are really gone. In the end they deserve everything they get, I’m sorry to say. But they were completely immoral by refusing to think. In such times not thinking and doing the right thing is spiritually and morally bereft.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jul 19, 2020 12:39 AM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Meritcracy exists, the con is that they tell you in school that the key factors that make up “merit” are your technical ability at your job: really the key factors are your ability to kiss ass (loyalty and willingness to cover up cock ups and not to outshine your boss) and to break the law for the boss.

Harry hopkins
Harry hopkins
Jul 17, 2020 10:27 AM
Reply to  nouserid

Well said nouserid.   I’m reading a biography of Captain James Cook, that erstwhile explorer who is arguably credited with being the greatest explorer of all time (not bad for a farm labourer’s son from North Yorkshire).   It’s Cook’s second expedition, the year is 1773 and he’s in the Pacific searching for the fabled ‘Southern continent’. He is being introduced to a Tribal chieftain called Otoo in Matavai (Tahitii) and to quote from Richard Hough’s book;   ‘Otoo was sitting on the ground when they found him, surrounded by his family and a number of his subjects, All stark naked, to Cook a new form of obeisance’   With regard to controlling your people there’s nothing new it would seem. In Otoo’s case he used nudity to make his people subservient. Today, they use masks, footprints on the ground and ridiculous and nonsensical social distancing to achieve the same… Read more »

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 17, 2020 12:37 PM
Reply to  Harry hopkins

if Johnson said that walking backwards helped protect against the ‘virus’ there would be those who would do it

 
For sure. I have long thought that if the Government announced that the only way to protect yourself fully was to put a plastic bag over your head and seal it at the neck, people would do it! 😀

covidiot
covidiot
Jul 17, 2020 2:54 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

experts believe that the most effective protection against the deadly virus is to insert a dill pickle up your nose. don’t forget to alternate between left and right nostrils every hour.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jul 18, 2020 4:50 AM
Reply to  covidiot

Put a gun to your head and pull the trigger: failsafe protection from the virus. Although the coroner may incorrectly put it down to Covid.

Hank
Hank
Jul 17, 2020 4:10 PM
Reply to  nouserid

A lot of Asians especially Chinese wear masks all the time even before Corona. They also tend to follow what the Government say.
 
As far as any leader wanting to return to normal Trump is the only Western leader that has been trying for months to do so.

Mil
Mil
Jul 17, 2020 8:05 PM
Reply to  nouserid

Bless!

Watt
Watt
Jul 17, 2020 9:24 PM
Reply to  nouserid

I rather like the ‘no hiding place’!

Binra
Binra
Jul 16, 2020 10:36 PM

To understand the masking edict you have to understand the thinking that drives the vaccine ‘imperative’ – I use this term to differentiate from vaccine choice as part of health freedom.   The thinking goes like this. Vaccination is not once applied and forever protected. But requires periodic ‘boosters’ to maintain some measure of protection excepting in those who are vaccine resistant (are not protected).   Full protection seeks to either eradicate the virus from the Earth or limit it via the notion of herd immunity as a very high percentage of the population maintaining their vaccination status.   Just as a mask believed effective should be protection against the unmasked, a fully vaccinated person should be immune to the virus and to the unvaccinated – but the vaccination is only considered a full social protection when ninety something percent are up to date with the scheduled requirements.   To… Read more »

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jul 17, 2020 2:09 AM
Reply to  Binra

Great comment.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 17, 2020 2:32 AM
Reply to  Binra

I used to get my cat wife vaccinated… I had a human girlfriend who said don’t bother with that shit when I expressed concern I couldn’t afford to any more…. she was right.. cat is healthier than ever. What a charade.

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 17, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

Ultimately the agenda is to destroy all pet ownership and replace our real furry friends with robots. They eat too much meat – so they have to go. Some green groups are very explicit about this. Good luck trying to get a cat to eat Bill Gates’ lab-grown meat!
 
Vaccination is not the only way they try to use pets to normalise behaviour for humans. Not long ago there was a run of stories about celebs (like Streisand and Kidman) who’d lost their pets but found them again because the animals were chipped. “What a good idea, let’s get the kids chipped!” was obviously the implication.
 
DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP? was highly prophetic in many ways – and the replacement of pets with synthetics is one of them. Dick was no innocent and knew from his Silicon Valley buddies what was coming down the pipeline.
 

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 17, 2020 5:06 PM
Reply to  Edwige

dogs are much healthier on vegan food. it is the likes of prince charles who insist they be fed animals.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 18, 2020 11:38 AM
Reply to  Edwige

I’ll have to read it one day.. thank you. I found Armageddon 2419 on a wall recently… a quick scan of the introduction and it looks promising…

breweriana
breweriana
Jul 16, 2020 10:06 PM

A doctor gives his opinion on the harm a mask can do here:
 
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/mark-sircus/wearing-masks-a-sledgehammer-to-health/

Woody Boyd
Woody Boyd
Jul 16, 2020 10:35 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Masks are completely ineffective at stopping any transmission other than major spiddle from your nose or mouth, but as for normal transmission of a virus especially COVID, it’s useless. And here is a picture from the side of a box of the masks being used by most people with the liability disclaimers that I am sure the manufacturer’s lawyers made them admit;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec9KBE7WkAIH7Yt?format=png&name=small&fbclid=IwAR2-dVjD8irDG165EtUA0QcQSifDL-I-knVuNNXKwpy_BGFJ9O0pt0_EBpY
 

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 3:29 AM
Reply to  Woody Boyd

Error 404 (image not found)

Roberto
Roberto
Jul 17, 2020 7:08 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Or you could just go to Joe Biden’s website to buy a mask for 20 bucks, and read the disclaimer:
Please be advised masks are not medical grade.
Biden for President makes no representation or warranty that the masks will prevent infection or transmission of viruses or other infectious diseases. We are not medical experts. If you have questions regarding health or safety, please consult with the CDC and/or qualified medical professionals.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 18, 2020 7:17 AM
Reply to  Roberto

That just means Biden is pushing non-medical rather than surgical or N95 masks. That just seems like elementary honesty in advertising. Why would Yesterday Joe not be into honest advertising when it’s not an election promise?

So what’s the unbroken URL or don’t you know?

Roberto
Roberto
Jul 18, 2020 6:04 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Elementary honesty in advertising is not usually a matter of integrity, it’s legislated.
Just look on any package of widely sold masks, or on any government health website, taking time to translate the weasel words. N95 and other ‘medical grade’ masks are to be reserved for professionals, not the plebs.
Anyway, the URL. Just use the Wayback Machine:comment image

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 20, 2020 1:55 AM
Reply to  Roberto

Thankyou for the photograph. The warning is legalese to keep the manufacturers, distributors and retailers off the hook if anyone in a litigation-happy country like the USA wears one, contracts COVID-19 and then blames the mask (however they caught it: you may wish to take note of the irony in that). I had previously double checked in the UK and have not seen it at any PoS or on any packs, even in pharmacies, presumably as there is little need for it, in line with general signage in both countries: In the USA there are many more ‘prohibited’ notices around in public places than there are in the UK, because in the USA most things are permitted unless they specifically prohibited and in the UK most things are prohibited unless they are specifically permitted. This cultural difference has encouraged ordinary Americans to believe that they are essentially a ‘free’ country,… Read more »

LisaMac
LisaMac
Jul 16, 2020 8:34 PM

“People with high blood pressure should not wear masks because added CO2 will increase their blood pressure.” Would like to have the reference for this statement from Defying the Mask Dictate. Thank you

Macandcheese
Macandcheese
Jul 17, 2020 1:01 AM
Reply to  LisaMac

And could you please reference the science behind wearing a mask? Love to see that since everyone Karen like you that i have asked have the same stupid answer.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 4:29 AM
Reply to  Macandcheese

There are numerous easy-to-find academic papers on the efficacy or not of the various types of mask, considered singly or comparatively, available on the Internet. That you cannot find or have not found them for yourself suggests that the effort of chasing them up and listing them would not be a productive use of others’ time. In response to your specific question, there is in some people a connection between the wearing of any mask, including even a lightweight bandana, over the nose and mouth, and elevated blood pressure, particularly in those with a panic disorder (such as many of those posting here or those posting here with the political intent of provoking premature Orwellian panic). Both the ECDC and NCBI sites as well as the WHO publish guidelines suggesting that their general use by healthy* members of the general public is not advisable and the Guardian today published a… Read more »

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jul 17, 2020 11:58 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Is there fuck. Utter garbage. Robot head talk.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 18, 2020 7:18 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Is there fuck what?

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 19, 2020 6:22 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

No other reply in 3 days. Arsebiscuits alright. You haven’t a clue where to look, or even how to search, just juvenile bombast piled up high. Not even uninformed opinion, you ain’t that clever, just dogwhistle and arsebiscuits…

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jul 19, 2020 6:36 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Yeah was a lazy blunt response to be honest by myself.
I’m on my phone now and find it bothersome to share some pertinent peer reviewed studies to dispute the efficiency of masks
I know theres one on BMJ off the top of my head was done in Asia I think 6 years ago.

LisaMac
LisaMac
Jul 17, 2020 4:32 AM
Reply to  Macandcheese

I don’t understand how my question makes me a Karen. I am not for wearing masks, they do not provide protection. If an individual wants to wear one then please do and if you don’t want to then don’t.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 16, 2020 8:02 PM

Today,as I was waiting to cross the road, a woman drove by alone in her car with the windows closed………Wearing a mask.

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jul 16, 2020 8:14 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Someone passed out driving, while wearing a medical grade mask, and struck a lamp post in the US recently.
 
If a pedestriation was killed, would it be a covid death?

Juju Brown
Juju Brown
Jul 16, 2020 8:47 PM
Reply to  Cicatriz

Yes

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 9:29 PM
Reply to  Cicatriz

Natch!

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 17, 2020 2:35 AM
Reply to  Cicatriz

….same as when the morons were walking into the road in case they passed too close to a dangerously infected human… my sympathy was with the beleaguered motorist.

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jul 17, 2020 9:33 AM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

I’ve seen cyclists wearing them. People’s capacity for risk assessment is worse than I thought.

Ort
Ort
Jul 16, 2020 9:42 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

I can’t resist recycling most of a comment I posted elsewhere several weeks ago. It was a reply to someone who was appropriately aghast at the increasing spectacle of solitary drivers in closed vehicles wearing masks:   It’s obvious to some of us that the official Megadeath Virus of Doom “public health measures” are themselves supersaturated with a lethal “load” of the FUD virus. In the unlikely event that someone is unfamiliar with that acronym, it stands for “fear, uncertainty, and doubt”. I’m borrowing the technical term “supersaturated” because Western society is already saturated with overclass-imposed FUD– especially in the US, and especially since “9/11 changed everything”.   So the irrational mask-wearing is surely a symptom of FUD toxicity. But it may also arise from temperament or habit; some of those drivers may find it easier to put the damned thing on when they leave their house, and leave it on… Read more »

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 17, 2020 11:28 AM
Reply to  Ort

It is with great regret that I am compelled by my deeply ingrained honesty to inform you that the aforementioned fud has inveigled the hallowed grounds of Scraypes Hall,to whit~ Reading your esteemed epistle, the term “shed virus” induced panic into my febrile imagination and I immediately gathered up my flame thrower and torched the garden shed. Unhappy day, my considerable stock of toilet rolls went up in the conflagration. Fortunately my priceless collection of voodoo fetish masks is under lock and key in another location and I can still continue to venture abroad.

Scott
Scott
Jul 16, 2020 10:09 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

I’ve done this, too, when I don’t want to touch the mask….because unlike the majority of people, I actually treat the mask like a fomite.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 11:58 AM
Reply to  Scott

“I actually treat the mask like a fomite.

You’re correct but the majority are sad sacks, somewhat like their mirror images around here. Panicking over all the wrong things. Resultant terminal heart attacks all round before their premature paranoia gets to be an urgent problem that really needs their prescience in the mix. Very personally and socially useful, NOT.

Maya
Maya
Jul 18, 2020 8:11 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Probably the same woman who nearly knocked me off my bike when she decided to turn left in front of me with no warning.. She looked a bit starved of oxygen and obviously had impaired vision due to the mask too.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Jul 18, 2020 9:15 PM
Reply to  Maya

No Maya, she was just driving a car…….. and you didn’t exist.

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jul 16, 2020 7:33 PM

Funniest story today is that Russian’s are coming over here and stealing our vaccines.
 
Well, hacking, actually.
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/07/16/russian-hackers-attempted-steal-covid-19-vaccine-research-downing/?WT.mc_id=e_DM1266926&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_Edi_New_Reg&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Edi_Edi_New_Reg20200716&utm_campaign=DM1266926
 
This narrative worked really well for Theresa, let’s see if it helps Al out.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 16, 2020 9:35 PM
Reply to  Cicatriz

For some strange, unknown reason the Telegraph has decided to trash its longstanding reputation in favour of serving as Government propaganda mouthpiece.

On the Telegraph’s Twitter page today was a thread, complete with cute cartoons, devoted to teaching the public on how to adapt to a permanent ‘new normal’. Dealing with non mask wearers was one section.

The thread was met with derision from readers but the its very existence warns of impending fascism.

captain marvek
captain marvek
Jul 16, 2020 6:59 PM

I wear mine everywhere but I’m in my 7-0’s, type A blood and a diabetic. I heard a group of doctors who discussed past research from Asia a few years back that did testing and it showed 1) cloth masks were almost useless. Particles can go through the cloth easily and it provides no protection. 2) surgical paper masks ahd a 40% sucess rate. Thus, the masks do not protect you. Best to wash your hands, wear gloves and keep from touching your face.

Willem
Willem
Jul 16, 2020 7:41 PM
Reply to  captain marvek

I am sort of amazed by these commenters who tell some useful stuff, like that masks don’t protect you, and then mix it with ludicrous stuff like ‘Best to wash your hands, wear gloves and keep from touching your face.’

Not even that, unless you have a failing immune system.

It is a quite systematic way of commenting in commenters like 1 out of 7 billion, sunset, Mikael (from Norway), and now captain marvek.

Usually they only comment for a short time, disappear, and then someone else takes over.

Given that such comments all follow the same line, I am under the impression that it is a scripted line.

And since I don’t like fake commenters, I gave a downvote.

Macandcheese
Macandcheese
Jul 17, 2020 1:04 AM
Reply to  Willem

Hello willem, Could you please provide the science backing wearing a mask?

Basher
Basher
Jul 17, 2020 10:19 AM
Reply to  Macandcheese

You have completely misunderstood Willem’s point. I’m guessing Macandcheese, that English IS your first language, no? Willem is Dutch, and isn’t writing in his first language. His English is superb, and writes often in very informative stuff on here, from, if I remember correctly, inside the medical/scientific system. What’s your excuse, Macandcheese, for misunderstanding your own language?

IANA
IANA
Jul 17, 2020 10:45 AM
Reply to  Willem

I’ve notice that too on other blogs I comment on.
 
Just today I called someone out on just that – made some reasonable comments on the narrative and interspersed with fear porn about police checking shopkeepers for masks in Esher.
 
Its a clearly co-ordinated approach in my opinion. With the narrative is failing best mix up facts with lies as this will only add to the confusion.
 
For those who were not paying attention at the start and are now trying to grapple with reality that makes it doubly difficult.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 3:39 PM
Reply to  captain marvek

“Thus, the masks do not protect you. Best to wash your hands, wear gloves and keep from touching your face.”

Simple personal masks do not protect you from others, the do protect others from the grosset gobs of your coughs and sneezes. That goes for any gob-borne infection. Get over yourself.

Noneya
Noneya
Jul 16, 2020 6:51 PM

Masks simply don’t work. Do your research and you will find masks create more problems than they solve. This is all about fearmongering and control. The leftists are treasonous and vile and will stop at nothing to gain control of people.

Willem
Willem
Jul 16, 2020 7:42 PM
Reply to  Noneya

It has nothing to do with leftists, so why bring it up?

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 9:33 PM
Reply to  Willem

Exactly. Outmoded, almost antediluvian term, yet currently used as a stick (or twig rather) to attack humane folks. Pathetic.

ame
ame
Jul 16, 2020 11:28 PM
Reply to  Noneya

the world biggest ever lock down Orwellian new world order on riods was down under conservative suck gop
check mate
 
left right left right march to no where…..
 
 
 

IANA
IANA
Jul 17, 2020 10:46 AM
Reply to  Noneya

This is not a left/right issue.

IANA
IANA
Jul 16, 2020 4:42 PM

If the fear porn wasn’t continually pumped out everyday things would have returned to normal months ago. Its obvious that that is not going to happen. Best plan for contingencies.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jul 16, 2020 11:34 PM
Reply to  IANA

Can we invade a territory and have a bastion for covid 19 atheists to create our new no convid society?

IANA
IANA
Jul 17, 2020 10:47 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Sounds like a plan – I’ve heard Mustique is nice this time of year.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 3:45 PM
Reply to  IANA

. .

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 18, 2020 7:26 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Downvote/s for a workaround to the lack of a “Delete/discard Post” button? Love it. Ever thought of downvoting the presence of a “Post Comment” button?

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 4:22 PM

I went to a tourist town in Yorkshire today. It was absolutely bustling, and there were literally hundreds of over 60s and pensioners on a day out enjoying themselves. Including me! The majority of them weren’t wearing a mask either. I thought “why aren’t we all dead?? We should be dead by now!” Maybe the Yorkshire tea and fresh maskless air is a good deterrent for ‘Corony’. Comments welcome, even the negative ones. (I have a broad back!)

Todd
Todd
Jul 16, 2020 5:24 PM
Reply to  Gizmo007

As a person continually trying to make sense of all of this, I often wonder if there is something we don’t know about this, like, for example, it IS indeed a manufactured (or modified) virus that infects people, creates little or no symptoms, but then, after a year of living normally, the person previously infected just drops dead. Or…maybe aliens are coming and they have said anyone without a mask will be instantly pulverized. With such nonsensical goings on these extreme ideas are what it takes to make sense of it if you stick with the mainstream narrative. If you go to an alternative way of thinking, explanations are pretty simple comparatively.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 5:36 PM
Reply to  Todd

Todd – The 2 films The Invasion of the Body Snatchers or The Day of the Triffids both come to my mind. They tried everything to get rid of the Triffids, but to no avail. Then they were doused with sea water and it killed them all. Maybe if we doused everyone in Yorkshire Tea, it might have the same effect on ‘Corony!’ If I didn’t try to find a bit of humour in all of this I think I would go insane. Or maybe I already have!

ame
ame
Jul 16, 2020 6:40 PM
Reply to  Gizmo007

Yorkshire tea grown in Indian really upset the alt right when they found out
 

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jul 16, 2020 11:36 PM
Reply to  ame

Where else did it come from?

ame
ame
Jul 17, 2020 12:09 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Wuhan China quite popular sadly they thought asbo sold it grow it via plantation in middle land Albion.
 
anyway it not tea, it chemical 40% fluoride and god no’s what else
the bag is bleached, they change the clay pot to pots that leached poison the add solution called tap crap = water that mix with the leached poison kettle and chemical laced tea bag with white sugar
 
the posh folks used pure 925 silver pots.
 
most old teapots now are sold as ornaments explains they cant be used for tea just in case
its on the denby website about there old models of teapot cups etc
Wedgwood Teacups, Child Labor, and Lead Poisoning 
 
and repeat
 
 

Joe
Joe
Jul 16, 2020 9:44 PM
Reply to  Gizmo007

Harrogate?

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Reply to  Joe

Joe – Not Harrogate. I didn’t want to say which town as I didn’t want to put the mockers on it. Can you imagine in the BBC News or Papers – ‘Huge spike in corona virus cases and deaths as hoards of pensioners descend on *****. We told you so, you should have stayed indoors!’ I think we were all out having a ‘jolly’ before the next lockdown and 2nd wave descends upon us. I was out to spend what little savings I have left before the virus kills me off! Keep smiling in the face of adversity folks!

Joe
Joe
Jul 17, 2020 9:03 AM
Reply to  Gizmo007

Was just wondering because I’m in Harrogate, not seen much going on though, plenty of mask wearers here!

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 17, 2020 10:54 AM
Reply to  Joe

Not surprised. Harrogate full of old wealthy sheep.

Skeptic
Skeptic
Jul 16, 2020 4:09 PM

Mexico City, Jul, 2021. Reuters A new type of bacteria has been discovered by Mexican scientists. This novel microbe attaches to the intestinal walls producing harrowing flatulences that could (or could not) cause mild symptoms of disgust and even death in .00001% of those exposed. The government has instituted a compulsory scented nappy regulation which is enforced by the army with checkpoints across the country. Citizens are required to take of their pants or skirts before entering and exiting public spaces. The spirit of solidarity and mass mobilisation have brought thousands of people to the streets to stop the spread, forming vigilante squads and human incineration units (HIU), as advised by the WHO.   Modoto, Mongolia, Sept. 2022. AP The outbreak of a new type of pathogen which resides in human hair glands has been related with the death of 123 year old alcoholic Enkhtuya Bolorma. The government has been… Read more »

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 16, 2020 4:01 PM

“Covid-19: Phase 1 of the “Permanent Crisis” ” by Mike Whitney
 
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/covid-19-phase-1-of-the-permanent-crisis/

dedaStanko
dedaStanko
Jul 16, 2020 3:58 PM

I have contacted my GP to ask if I can get a certificate to show that I have a phobia from wearing any face coverings. His reply was that unfortunately he can’t supply any certificates of that sort ?!? I encourage offG readers to try the same with their GP’s and report here. Another proof that this has nothing to do with our health but everything to do with controlling us.

ame
ame
Jul 16, 2020 5:17 PM
Reply to  dedaStanko
ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Jul 16, 2020 6:02 PM
Reply to  dedaStanko

I did the same yesterday and was told the same thing by by normally very helpful, supportive and lovely GP. She advised that, if necessary, I should simply state to any official that I am subject to distress due a private medical complaint and to refer any persistent enquiries to her if necessary. We’ll see if that cuts the mustard soon.
 
It’s going to be funny to watch them try to police this (I hope).

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 6:32 PM
Reply to  dedaStanko

i would not claim ‘medical exemption’ but show them you are exercising your right to informed consent. http://drrimatruthreports.com/the-sources-of-the-law-the-right-of-informed-consent

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  Rachel

this would tend to alert them that a crime was occuring and that they had been recruited to be party to it. this might alert them they could be held accountable and lead them to believe they should not involve themselves in such violations of the right to informed consent.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 7:13 PM
Reply to  dedaStanko

dedaStanko If your GP won’t give you an exemption certificate, these are the Government guidelines: From Gov.UK You also do not need to wear a face covering if you have a good reason not to (this is known as a ‘reasonable excuse’ in the regulations). This includes: •if you have a physical or mental illness or impairment, or a disability that means you cannot put on, wear or remove a face covering •if putting on, wearing or removing a face covering would cause you severe distress These are both reasonable excuses if any official challenges you if you don’t wear a face mask for personal or health reasons. I carry this information with me wherever I go, but no official on public transport has challenged me yet. I also carry my travel assistance card which says I am exempt. I suffer from breathing difficulties and also schizophrenia. If anybody tries… Read more »

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 9:37 PM
Reply to  dedaStanko

I’ve acquired my get-out for the vaccine already. As for the mask, exemption is written into the government paper. I doubt that any self respecting shopkeeper will repel customers.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 4:04 PM
Reply to  dedaStanko

Your GP may not be able to supply such a certificate but that means that whoever gives him such an order knows as much about broader clinical problems, especially anxiety-related disorders, as a starving rat’s arse. On the other hand he might have just been saying in code that he’s not going to carry the can for your snivelling Trump/Bush/etc draft dodging?

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 3:55 PM

This site seems to attract conspiracy theorists more and more, soon those visiting here will see conspiracy in a handful of dust. Pity that, it was an informative blog.

Unknown
Unknown
Jul 16, 2020 4:28 PM
Reply to  Baron

You don’t mean… ‘smart dust’ by any chance, do you? I could tell you things about that…

ame
ame
Jul 16, 2020 5:18 PM
Reply to  Baron

never seen you before maybe that is the conspiracy

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 6:29 PM
Reply to  ame

Que, âme?
 
I vist, not often comment, is this allowed?

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 10:16 PM
Reply to  Baron

sure. wag your tail sweetie.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 4:10 PM
Reply to  Baron

Difficult to know if your downvotes say visiting but not commenting is at least not approved of or a load of this week dumbshits don’t recognise your stage name.

Todd
Todd
Jul 16, 2020 5:27 PM
Reply to  Baron

What the hell is a “conspiracy theorist”…?? I like to think of us as “off the beaten path seekers of truth”…sure, we can be wrong, but history has shown that often we have been right.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 5:43 PM
Reply to  Todd

ironically covid is a conspiracy about an evil virus without a shred of scientific evidence to support it. https://youtu.be/Cdq80ijbj-I

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 7:46 PM
Reply to  Rachel

Rachel, you must have been released too early, ask them to take you back together with the half naked female in the video and her papaya. Arghhh
 
 

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Reply to  Baron

thxs for doing the demo of the medical cults out in the open cult techniques. you deserve a cookie for working so diligently.

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Jul 16, 2020 6:03 PM
Reply to  Baron

Burn the heretics!

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 6:34 PM
Reply to  ginghiniagenie

Seconded, the one with unpronounceable moniker.

SparkyMcBiff
SparkyMcBiff
Jul 16, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  Baron

Anyone comment by someone who uses the phrase “conspiracy theorist” is immediately ignored since it is obviously posted by an unthinking mind-controlled corporate media consuming parrot.

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 9:40 PM
Reply to  Baron

How does one say “eff off” politely? Anyone?

dedaStanko
dedaStanko
Jul 17, 2020 12:55 PM
Reply to  Baron

You’ve ended on the wrong web site pal. Yours doesn’t have preposition off- in front..There you’ll find the information you seek.
 

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 3:55 PM

it looks like this is a good video on how cults work. “its like an infection, its like the plague”. one thing cults do is have special clothing ie. masks. he speaks about bubbles so cults try to isolate members eg. censoring outsiders off social media. covid is probably the biggest most dangerous cult in history so it is worth identifying it as a cult based on known cult techniques. https://youtu.be/Y73laz3etM8

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 6:34 PM
Reply to  Rachel

You reckon soldiers are a cult, Rachel?
 
Covid a cult?
 
Why do you think the Chinese reacted the way they did? Are they stupid?
 
The virus was new, no question about it, we had no vaccine, no drug, no clinical procedure of sufficient efficacy to eradicate it or even reduce its mortality rate, still unknown when it hit us. You call it a cult?
 
 

SparkyMcBiff
SparkyMcBiff
Jul 16, 2020 6:52 PM
Reply to  Baron

There is something called an “immune system”.
 
This virus had killed less people worldwide than who died from the seasonal flu last year.
 
The data is there, why do you ignore it?
 
Why are you pushing your fear porn?
 
Why are you so frightened about something that is less lethal than the seasonal flu?
 

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 7:11 PM
Reply to  Baron

i wouldnt call them the chinese but heavily brainwashed medical people who then recruited others to fear a figment of their imagination. there is about as much evidence for this virus as there is for the tooth fairy yet the cult has spread panic and enforcement of their dangerous cult ideology leading to vast amounts of harm to people all over the world.

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 7:53 PM
Reply to  Rachel

Are you for real, Rachel?

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 7:57 PM
Reply to  Rachel

ofcourse this cult already had their ideology in place having for decades deceived people and recruited them to be party to terror. amandha vollmer discusses the dangerous cult of ‘vaccination’ in this video covering the history of the germ theory. she has experience in labs working with genetics. https://youtu.be/fj6pw6Jx2-M

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 9:42 PM
Reply to  Rachel

Astute. ‘Covid Cult’ has a nicely sinister ring to it!

Mara Moreau
Mara Moreau
Jul 16, 2020 3:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Jv3r24mbk
 
This link is a song for France –‘ Rassemblons-nous’ from Christopher Tin’s wonderful ‘Calling all Dawns’

hope
hope
Jul 16, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  Mara Moreau

I think you emailed me yesterday about a gite you have and kindly suggested I come there. Possibly you did not find my reply. I was wondering how to get more information and possibly get in touch with you.
Once again thank you for your kind suggestion. I may well take you up on it.

Willem
Willem
Jul 16, 2020 4:57 PM
Reply to  hope
hope
hope
Jul 16, 2020 5:26 PM
Reply to  Willem

Thanks a lot Willem. Let me get in touch with them.
Ill let you know if they reply.

Mara Moreau
Mara Moreau
Jul 16, 2020 5:26 PM
Reply to  hope

I have replied now on the original feed. You’re right I didn’t get your first message but off-guardian sent me an email.

White Horse Mountain
White Horse Mountain
Jul 16, 2020 3:14 PM

Ok ok I do understand you British are an exceptionally slow witted grouping. Funny shaped heads and all that.
I won’t be laughing at you when you find out the hardest way of all. You will cry when confronted with the returns of your stupidity. A land of mockers and jearers is pretty much all you have ever been. A silly little imp of a country.

So…let it come…let the humbling of the old dog begin in earnest. Mayhap some few of you survive.

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 3:56 PM

Rather unfair, White Horse, but getting closer to the truth.

ame
ame
Jul 16, 2020 5:19 PM

America Is the Only Country That Went from Barbarism to Decadence Without Civilization In Between.” 
~ Oscar Wilde

Todd
Todd
Jul 16, 2020 5:30 PM
Reply to  ame

That’s a great quote, what is that from?

ame
ame
Jul 16, 2020 6:36 PM
Reply to  Todd

hi Todd…
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump twitted it July 4th
 

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 4:35 PM
Reply to  ame

If Trump didn’t acknowledge it as a retweet of a one-liner stretching back through scores of commentators ultimately lost in the mists of White American time then at least he’s not afraid of being seen as a potus polykleptocrat.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 17, 2020 4:28 PM
Reply to  Todd

It’s from practically everywhere.

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 9:44 PM

Something’s definitely afoot when the pantie sniffing trolls are foaming at their mouths.

Mark
Mark
Jul 16, 2020 2:47 PM

Don’t wear one?
Then sign a DNR.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jul 16, 2020 3:55 PM
Reply to  Mark

A total of 1.5 million people died from TB in 2018

 
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis
 
You insensitive monster! How dare you not wear a mask in 2018!

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Jul 16, 2020 6:06 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Maybe we could stage some kind of protest (appropriately socially distanced and bemasked with the Anonymous Guy Fawkes mask) burning our masks in the vein of the feminists burning their bras?

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 6:36 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Your quote makes no sense unless you say where, WP. In Glasgow, in the UK or in the world?

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 9:46 PM
Reply to  Baron

Once a sniffer…..

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 16, 2020 2:17 PM

Guideline No. 2 from Dorset Eye (un) official Coronavirus guidelineshttps://dorseteye.com/the-un-official-coronavirus-guidelines/ 
2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not.

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 3:47 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Mask are worn not to protect the wearer, Petra, it’s the one that wears a mask that protects others. Because the majority infected with c-19 are symptomless, it’s only logical that masks wearing should be for everyone until the virus disappears.
 
Everyone against the mouth covering should look at Japan, a country where masks wearing is cultural, it’s akin to people in the West covering their mouths when coughing or sneezing. In Japan, one doesn’t wear a mask 24/7 but only if one suspects a cold, flu or any other respiratory malady.
 
The resistance to masks in Britain would be laughable if it were not tragic, the vast majority of the population locked itself in meekly, obediently without a murmur, nothing unBritish here, but now many refuse to wear a mask because it’s sooo unBritish?
 
Is there a rational explanation?
 
 

yorkshirelad
yorkshirelad
Jul 16, 2020 6:59 PM
Reply to  Baron

Oh dear…. If you are infected WITH ANYTHING you should NOT be roaming the streets. After all Influenza is far more dangerous to the under 65’s than Covid. You should be at home in bed. If you cough into someones face close enough then you should (and people have) be arrested for assault. If you don’t know you have an infection but you have a cough, surely if you half a braincell you cough,sneeze etc into a FRICKING TISSUE and dispose of it. If you have a viral infection and breathe into a mask then you re-breathe the virus back into your lungs. This increases the viral load and eventually leads to DEATH FOR THE WEARER! (ref:pre covid mask research!) If you have no symptoms then you might be an asymptomatic carrier. In which case your chance of transmitting the disease is VERY low. The WHO stated so 4 weeks… Read more »

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 7:52 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

You need attention of people wearing white coats, york, and the sooner the better.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 16, 2020 10:21 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

“the disease has plummeted in cases and deaths”

 
The UK Government is determined to prolong cases and ‘Covid19’ deaths for as long as possible even if it means distorting statistics. According to this article published today, people dying of all causes are being cross-checked against a list of all people previously ‘diagnosed’ as Covid19 positive (so older people, people with co-morbidities, asymptomatic cases, key workers). Any that feature on the ‘positive’ list are automatically being cited as Covid19 deaths, irrespective of what they actually did die from. This means that, ultimately, everyone who has ever come into the Covid19 positive category will eventually be recorded as dying from Covid19 i.e. 100% death rate. And Covid19 ‘deaths’ will never cease in England for the foreseeable future.
 
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/
 
 

Macandcheese
Macandcheese
Jul 17, 2020 1:10 AM
Reply to  Baron

Hello Baron, I asked Willem the same question but I will also pose it to you. Could you please provide a link to a study that backs mask wearing will prevent the spread of Covid? Please no anecdotal stories or because the Chinese do it.

Baron
Baron
Jul 17, 2020 9:15 AM
Reply to  Macandcheese

Are you for real, M?
 
A country of 135m burghers uses masks diligently, they have immeasurably fewer mortalities than any country that doesn’t use masks even though a quarter of them are decrepit and old, they live on top of each other, didn’t all locked themselves up, and you ask for a study?
 
Sweet baby Jesus, if you’re there please furnish this guy with just few thinking cells, please, please

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 17, 2020 7:41 AM
Reply to  Baron

Baron, you’re missing the point of the joke.   The joke is the contradictory advice given about masks. If you read the rest of Dorset Eye’s unofficial guidelines I challenge you not to laugh. If you don’t laugh then I fear you are indoctrinated beyond hope. The point of the guidelines generally is to highlight the contradictions. The fact that there are so many contradictions raises questions, doesn’t it? If there really were a dangerous virus it would be very irresponsible for the messages from the authorities to be so contradictory. To me, the contradictions are one of the indicators (among the many) of this alleged pandemic being a hoax.   A few years ago I learnt that the power elite when hoaxing us give us gratuitous clues beyond any naturally occurring anomalies in their story. Despite the seeming counterintuitiveness I didn’t doubt this claim for a nanosecond as it… Read more »

Baron
Baron
Jul 17, 2020 11:19 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Thank you, Petra, and it’s a genuine thanks, you are very kind not to attack Baron, but do what one’s expected to do in a debate, address the core of the issue.   Sadly, not enough time for Baron to answer as extensively, but for the record: No disagreement with you that the virus isn’t the killer the authorities say it is, the number of healthy people (no other recorded malady at the point of death) that succumbed to it in Britain was 309 some two weeks ago.   Baron’s willing to accept that prolonging the lockdown, keeping on frightening us may be for reasons other than the virus, but on masks Baron cannot agree with those objecting to them, masks are one of the means to prevent any virus or bacterial infection spreading. It defies common sense to say masks are useless.   You sit in front of a… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 16, 2020 2:12 PM

So this morning when I hopped on the train I sat in the vestibule next to a Sit Here sticker and immediately textaed on it, as is my wont, “COVID is a big fat hoax”. A Muslim woman sitting opposite me with her two children and a pram who looked as if she might have been from Myanmar decided to move carriages no doubt because of the crazy woman defacing a sticker. On reflection she may well have been Rohingya and considering the situation she’s come from I didn’t blame her at all but I couldn’t help finding it amusing. I rang a partner in defacing-of-COVID-stickers crime and as we were speaking, Mark Latham, former leader of the Labor party and now state leader of One Nation got on. My friend suggested I should go and tell him he’s a fuckwit. Instead I went and sat in front of him… Read more »

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 16, 2020 8:24 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

You’re not shy, are you? Salute! .. be careful, dear.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 17, 2020 5:00 AM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

Thanks, Daniel. I very much doubt I would’ve done it if my friend hadn’t egged me on on the phone. A good experience to keep in mind for any future opportunities and perhaps try to start discussion with a more intelligent approach.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 16, 2020 1:43 PM

Found these great lockdown songs on John’s blog.
 
Take On Me

 
Living on a Prayer

 
 

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 16, 2020 1:19 PM

Well, John, yours may not be maskophobia but just this very minute I discovered mine is 🙂

Hank
Hank
Jul 16, 2020 1:12 PM

If the so called experts thought masks were important why didn’t they say this at the start instead of 6 months later? Masks only became fashionable after Trump said he didn’t care for them. Bunch of leftist fools howling at the moon. What’s next body condoms? These snowflakes need to stay at home and let everyone else get on with it.
 
Masks and other symbols are the fascist way of saying we are “all in this together” so we all think the same and vote the same!
 

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  Hank

They didn’t say wear masks at the start, Hank, because there was a massive shortage of masks, they are disposable, the fear was hospitals and other staff that needed them will have to go without.
 
The same for no contact infra red thermometers, not enough of them to take temperature at the ports of entry when we got serious about the virus.
 
If masks are a sign of fascism, what were the house arrests, a sign of untrammelled freedom?

yorkshirelad
yorkshirelad
Jul 16, 2020 7:08 PM
Reply to  Baron

Utter BS. The NHS does not “shop” for surgical masks at the same places as the general public. Secondly the PPE that NHS staff need for protection from a virus is totally different from the ones the public wears. Lack of PPE was due to a shortage of supply from abroad as countries held onto stocks they normally ship.
 
You have fallen for the propaganda.

Baron
Baron
Jul 16, 2020 7:49 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

Thank you, yorkshirelad, you win, now please go away and give some thought to: would not the world be a smarter place if you mother remain a virgin?

Ort
Ort
Jul 16, 2020 9:57 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

When the odious Anthony Fauci was confronted with his contradictory statements about mask-wearing– first stating it wasn’t necessary, then flipping to the opposite position of aggressively recommending mask-wearing, he coyly “confessed” to the rationale mentioned here: he admitted that he prevaricated at first because there was a concern that there weren’t enough masks on hand for healthcare workers, so that if they had given the correct recommendation to wear masks it might’ve caused a run on the market.   The amoral Fauci is tone-deaf to the implications of this alleged deceit– or double-deceit, since it’s fairly obvious that he invented the “saving the mask supply for the healthcare community” to lamely cover his blatant hypocrisy and double-dealing.   I find this blithe rationalization mordantly amusing, or perhaps I should say that I’m both appalled and amused that people who echo Fauci’s claim presumably see it as an exercise in “pragmatism” that… Read more »

ame
ame
Jul 16, 2020 11:38 PM
Reply to  Ort

watch the play Doctor Faustus to understand dr anthony fauci 

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 16, 2020 8:25 PM
Reply to  Baron

The Baron of Bollox.

Hank
Hank
Jul 17, 2020 4:22 PM
Reply to  Baron

So it takes 6 months to make paper/cloth masks, Lmao.
 
House arrests under Corona are a sign of untrammelled fascism.

hope
hope
Jul 16, 2020 12:40 PM

Today I was among less than 1% not wearing masks on the streets, one of the rare other person without one smiled at me, and the only one in the supermarket, even though its not yet mandatory (will be on Aug. 1st).
 

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 1:11 PM
Reply to  hope

thats strange. my friend from france told me hardly anyone was wearing masks. she said there was alot of pressure to have the who arrested and the govt were about to resign.

hope
hope
Jul 16, 2020 3:49 PM
Reply to  Rachel

Well where I live is this leafy very bourgeois suburbia, very beautiful on the surface, not humanly. And I know it does not represent France. But so it is where I am and given Im stuck to as far as my feet will take me, I dont see much else.
 

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 16, 2020 12:29 PM

While the Romanov bloodline was being exterminated by outsiders, agents were paying citizens to start disorder on the Red Square. See the parallel here? The controlled media was pushing out all sorts of propaganda, to incite this unrest. See the parallel here? Over the next decade tens of millions were ‘disappeared’. No doubt ordinary citizens refused to believe it was going on. Until it was their time. See the parallel here? This was only 100 years ago. And we have all these self-assured sheep having no awareness, no comprehension, no knowledge, experience, ability to connect dots, thinking these things just don’t happen here! Not any more!! When it happened 100 years ago (a relative blink of the eye)! What links all these to today? Is it perhaps the one group all connected who own everything? Hmmm… Haha!! WAKE UP YOU MORONS WHO REFUSE TO BELIEVE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT… Read more »

hotrod31
hotrod31
Jul 16, 2020 2:27 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Zenpriest: I am of the firm belief that it is the lethargic majority amongst us who are making the world a very dangerous place for [all] those that are actually paying attention to what is really happening … right before our very eyes.
The oligarchs and the corporate robber barons have now become so emboldened that they are quite brazenly doing anything they like, while flipping us ‘the bird’ … The engineers of this massive hoax are being supported by all manner of tame pollies, subservient media hacks and think-tank spivs. And what do friends and colleagues do about it, nod their flipping collective heads in agreement – while chanting, yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir. In my work environment, it has become almost ‘unpatriotic’ to even discuss alternatives, or even point out the many inconsistencies occurring on an almost daily/weekly basis.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 16, 2020 2:39 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

Exactly right. They have enough food, comfort, illusion of freedom, junk food, ‘medication’ / (like the Soma Huxley wrote about) to never dare question. Let alone think.
If the masses were suddenly to gain awareness, the robbers would lose all power. Instantly. They would not be able to make us do anything. There would be mass refusal, mass disobedience, mass rejection.
Obviously this is wishful thinking. But I find this is what makes it so hard for the aware. We are being carried into our own demise by the sleepwalking masses. Discussing alternatives marks you out as a Winston Smith / (insert word)-Denier / anti-(insert word) among people and organisations who don’t care about what’s right or good so long as they can keep their bullshit job and bullshit life.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 16, 2020 9:49 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest
Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 10:22 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Correct. Covid Denier has not so much replaced, as up-dated that old saw we dare not speak of. This is a new over arching taboo, which has currency outside of the English speaking world, which that elderly, withering on the vine one, never really did.
 

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 18, 2020 7:44 AM
Reply to  ZenPriest

“[The lethargic majority] have enough food, comfort, illusion of freedom, junk food, ‘medication’ / (like the Soma Huxley wrote about) to ….”

That’s what you believe six months into this lockdown-rife year? Shitdumb in no particular order springs to mind. How do you get to be a Zen priest anyway (apart from thwacking underage childrens’ parts with an Epstein-brand bamboo stick)? Mail order?

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Jul 18, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

My moniker is a subversion, created to impress on and mock normies. This is a lesson to the normie in how our masters treat them.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 18, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

Ah, “normies”. Another “normie” self-proclaimed “superiorie” shitdumb (in no particular order).

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Jul 16, 2020 11:31 AM

Clip from a long and detailed anti-Hijab letter to the British Medical Assoc.Journal:   https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1435/rr-40   ……..Two potential side effects that have already been acknowledged are: (1) Wearing a face mask may give a false sense of security ….[3] (2) Inappropriate use: people must not touch their masks, renew masks frequently or wash them in disinfectant, otherwise their risks may increase ….[3,4]   Other potential side effects that we must consider are: (3) …quality of speech …. compromised and people may unconsciously come closer. (4) Wearing a face mask makes exhaled air go into the eyes. This generates an uncomfortable feeling and an impulse to touch your eyes. If your hands are contaminated, you are infecting yourself. (5) Face masks make breathing more difficult. For people with COPD, face masks worsen their breathlessness. Moreover, a fraction of carbon dioxide previously exhaled is inhaled at each respiratory cycle. Both phenomena increase… Read more »

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 16, 2020 11:06 AM

Who are going to be the 21st century ‘Bootleggers’ making money from the enforced mask wearing of 60 million plus people?
 
Those people should be targeted in the most unpleasant ways possible.

David Ferguson
David Ferguson
Jul 16, 2020 1:35 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

There don’t need to be any bootleggers Rhys, although there already are.
 
Most of the spivs in the UK given hundreds of millions of pounds to provide PPE under no-tender contracts haven’t provided any PPE, and probably never will.
 
But China manufactured 70 billion masks between beginning of March and end May. That’s ten for every human on the planet. Current capacity is about 1.5 billion a day. There’s no reason why any government that wants masks doesn’t just buy as many as they want at a perfectly reasonable price.
 

David
David
Jul 16, 2020 10:56 AM


 

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jul 16, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  David

So, Fox News is out of step with the rest of the MSM.
 
How come?

kevin
kevin
Jul 16, 2020 3:24 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

Fox News is one of the few major media outlets that isn’t completely controlled by the globalist establishment. You would never see someone like Tucker Carlson on any other major network. The dominant “liberal”/globalist faction of the oligarchy in the US controls almost all of the MSM: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, etc. Fox News is the mouthpiece for a rival “conservative”/nationalist faction.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jul 17, 2020 2:25 AM
Reply to  kevin

I have no evidence to dispute your claim. However, my instinct is to find that difficult to believe. Murdoch is in the inner circle; he is hugely powerful and hugely corrupt/corrupting.
 
Could he really take his eye off one of his puppies long enough for it to develop disobedient ways?

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jul 18, 2020 7:54 AM
Reply to  JohnEss

Rupert just chases after the money. His media empire reaches wherever that is, “liberal”/globalist or “conservative”/nationalist. All the same back-green to Ru.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 10:33 AM

the whole social alienation with masks is in line with other medical abuse. for example jeanice barcelo the ways in which hospital births are designed to cause trauma and sabotage family bonding: https://youtu.be/peMs26UXjQM

White Horse Mountain
White Horse Mountain
Jul 16, 2020 10:29 AM

Ok I see you are censoring comment here is that it? You join the team did you Kit?
Part of the club now are ya?

what the fuck?

Time to off the offguardian for becoming the thing it says it despises. Do look out for a new website called off-off-guardian to highlight your fall from grace.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jul 16, 2020 11:58 AM

Have you considered Moon Of Alabama and Worldwide Socialist Website as possible alternatives? I also hear The Grayzone is not too bad either.
I’m sure those esteemed sites will be right up your alley, and give you all the info you so desire. You know, allegedly “alternative” sites pumping out the Establishment narrative and revelling in fear porn whilst pretending to be, er, alternative. Bye…

White Horse Mountain
White Horse Mountain
Jul 16, 2020 10:25 AM

Am getting rather tired of the halfwits amongst us claiming Covid-19 is nothing but a cold. No wanker boy the virus is not like a cold and it will destroy your nuts, permanently damage your heart, eat holes in your brain, turn you into an instant diabetic and that is just for friggin starters.

If you are interested in the real state of play with respect to Sars-cov-2 your best bet would be to take a look at:

https://www.thailandmedical.news

breweriana
breweriana
Jul 16, 2020 10:37 AM

There is no ‘virus’.
‘COVID’=Certificate Of Vaccination ID.

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jul 16, 2020 10:54 AM

As far as I know, it attacks the lungs and causes pneumonia. Where’s the evidence it does all these other things?

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 11:13 AM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

pneumonia is when the kidneys are not working properly and lymphatic waste backs up into the lungs: https://youtu.be/gMzJINXsrmAa

A leaf
A leaf
Jul 17, 2020 10:50 AM
Reply to  Rachel

No rachel no it’s not.. just like rabies is not your intestines are leaking and shit bloking up your brain cells or, hepatit a is not your saliva mixing with your gallsrones and backing up into the liver.. just no. Viruses are real, they exist, cause several and some very deadly diseases like ebola, smallpox, rabies etc. ( no rachel ebola is not malnutrition related body eating itself …bullshit..
this viruses do not exist theories are really backing up into my lungs…
by the way my mama is kidney failure patient her kidneys are very very faulty for the last 20 years yet she never had pneumonia.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 16, 2020 11:08 AM

I think you mean that the virus is nothing but a cold to the vast majority of those infected, but a small number may have far more serious and unpleasant, sometimes fatal progression.
 
Trying to imply that SARS-CoV2 will cause a billion terrible deaths is simply not tenable.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 16, 2020 12:19 PM

Go and be anti-socially distant with the majority of the population then, who are also believers in this complete and utter scam.

Mishko
Mishko
Jul 16, 2020 12:37 PM

Halfwits? The beetus? Sperm count? Mad cow disease? Thailand medical news?
Yes there is a “there” there, but certainly not the “there” we constantly hear everywhere.

gordon
gordon
Jul 16, 2020 12:43 PM

white horse mountain
 
i think you need to lay off the crack pipe.
once you are back in reality read a book
about the bankers friend pasteur and his trillion dollar germ theory scam
 
 
The Dream & Lie of Louis Pasteur by R. B. Pearson 

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 16, 2020 1:16 PM

If it’s real why are all alleged patients shown to us unconvincing?   I predicted their unconvincingness and I predicted the nonsense “miracle survivor” stories. Not cos I’m some great soothsayer or anything but just cos from Day One they broadcasted this event was a psyop with nonsense about Chinese cobras and many-banded kraits being “reservoirs” of the virus and as “unconvincing” injured and nonsense “miracle survivor” stories tend to be a feature of psyops I thought this one would be no different. They tend to stick to the script pretty well. When you’re on a good thing that the punters remain resolutely blind to … well, you’re gonna stick to it, aren’t you? If it ain’t broke …   For 9/11 they showed us unconvincing injured people (ever so resembling “drill” injured) and they presented a guy leaving hospital in a wheelchair allegedly suffering from burns when it was… Read more »

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jul 16, 2020 1:24 PM

“No wanker boy the virus is not like a cold and it will destroy your nuts, permanently damage your heart, eat holes in your brain, turn you into an instant diabetic and that is just for friggin starters.”
 
LOL

IANA
IANA
Jul 16, 2020 4:53 PM

If ‘Sars-cov-2’ did all that then please explain why Charlie, Piers, as well as the numerous ‘celebrity victims’ are without any of those conditions. And I am not saying its just a cold.
 
What it is if anything is a danger to people of a certain demographic generally over 80 who have co-morbidity. The numbers however are slightly less serious than the flu. In 2015 51K people succumbed to the flu.
 
But I bet you had nothing to say about that I’m guessing?

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 16, 2020 6:45 PM
Reply to  IANA

IANA
 

please explain why Charlie, Piers as well as the numerous ‘celebrity victims’ are without any of those conditions

 
Maybe because they (and of course Boris Johnson) weren’t placed on ventilators. It’s amazing how many of the Covid19 side effects are exactly the same as possible/highly likely common side-effects of mechanical ventilation and the related medication. I’ve noticed how these reports of Covid19 side-effects never elucidate whether the patients they purportedly occurred in had been mechanically ventilated. Hmmm. I wonder why that might be.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 16, 2020 10:43 PM
Reply to  IANA

This White Horse guy needs to get back to his mountain.. if I wanted to engage with sweary morons I’d join Facebook.. he will bring out the worst in us here… possibly with intent..

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 16, 2020 10:46 PM
Reply to  Daniel Spaniel

Or maybe not… see below,

White Horse Mountain
White Horse Mountain
Jul 16, 2020 10:19 AM

The bullshit story of Novichok and the childish British mind is a magical pudding of steaming turds.

http://johnhelmer.net/financial-times-editor-khalaf-fakes-opcw-reports-on-skripal-sturgess-cases-hides-original-documents/#more-34191

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 16, 2020 10:17 AM

Face mask = A token of submission and conformity.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 16, 2020 2:31 PM
Reply to  Grafter

http://www.africavenir.org/nc/news-details/article/the-mask-remembering-slavery-understanding-trauma.html   This mask was a very concrete piece, a real instrument, which became a part of the European colonial project for than three hundred years. It was composed of a bit, placed inside the mouth of the Black subject, clamped between the tongue and the jaw, and fixed behind the head with two strings: one surrounding the chin and the second surrounding the nose and the forehead.   Formally, the mask was used by white masters to prevent enslaved Africans from eating sugar cane or cocoa beans, while working on the plantations, but its primary function was to implement a sense of speechlessness and fear, inasmuch as the mouth was at the same time a place of muteness and a place of torture.   The mask represents, in this sense, colonialism as a whole. It symbolizes the white sadistic politics of conquest and domination, and its brutal regimes of… Read more »

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 16, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

We are under capitalist ruling class colonialism.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 9:42 AM

The best joke I’ve heard so far this week!
 
The patient goes to a doctor and asks:
 
“Doctor … please tell me how long will this pandemic last?”
 
Doctor – “Oh… I do not know … I am not a politician”
 

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 12:42 PM
Reply to  Gizmo007

Heh,Heh!
 
I’ll be telling that one!

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 4:08 PM
Reply to  Watt

Watt – I got one thumbs down. Obviously a politician! Keep smiling amid all the insanity, and best wishes.

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 16, 2020 10:49 PM
Reply to  Gizmo007

In liked this one:… did you hear the one about covid19?… I’d tell you it, but I don’t think you’d get it (D. Scott).

Kalen
Kalen
Jul 16, 2020 8:12 AM

Just to be sure who is behind face masks terror. It is not only lying for profit morally deprived murderous global public health medical/pharmaceutical mafia or power usurping criminal governments but most of all corporate tyranny of oligarchic ruling elites that is primary driver in enforcement of medically inefficacious, dangerously harmful draconian rules and restrictions imposed on population. Despite the fact that many countries’ government authorities under guise of COVID more or less illegally introduced many restrictions and mandates most of them included quite broad medical or other waivers effectively making wearing masks or social distancing optional, it is corporate tyranny of huge supermarkets chains that imposed total mandate with no waivers and instructed staff to execute it in fact defying official guidelines. Why is that ? because corporations are tyrannies, can violate rules, laws and regulations inside their premises with few restrictions with no effective enforcement. Let’s not forget… Read more »

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 8:08 AM

I sent a message of support to Sir Desmond Swayne MP. He’s the only one that had the guts to speak up in Parliament about the mandatory wearing of face masks in shops. He’s an absolute gentleman, and replied to my e-mail too! More than my own MP has ever done! He has received a lot of flak on social media for his views, so if you agree with him, I’m sure he would be glad of your support. Thanks!
Show less
 
 
 

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 8:51 AM
Reply to  Gizmo007

the more important issue to raise is that no pathogenic virus has been proven. there is no basis for the belief in such a virus. necessary control studies have not beed done so there isnt any evidence of anything masks could protect against. https://youtu.be/Cdq80ijbj-I

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jul 16, 2020 9:57 AM
Reply to  Gizmo007

Receiving flak on social media is a sign you’re doing something right.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 16, 2020 4:45 PM
Reply to  Gizmo007

Having watched the exchanges between Sir Desmond and Hancock, I have to say I am sceptical (possibly unfairly) that it genuinely reflected Sir Desmond’s personal and professional views.   As a former civil servant who regularly provided Ministers (such as, in this case, Hancock) with answers to Parliamentary Questions (all of which were submitted in advance of the House of Commons PQ session), I was also very familiar with the convention of ‘Arranged PQs’. This is where a Minister arranges for a willing MP to ask a controversial question purely to enable information or a simple answer to be made public, thereby pre-empting genuine questions being raised from other quarters and thereby putting the issue to bed. In theory it should make life simple for them. I have drafted many an arranged PQ and the answer, before a volunteer MP had been found to ask the question!   I just… Read more »

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 6:41 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

JudyJ – Thank you for your reply. Sir Desmond also had to put this question to Hancock on behalf of his constituents. I know people in that area and many are unhappy about the mandatory wearing of masks. It’s his job to serve the people he represents. Unlike my MP who is in Boris’s pocket. I put some very pertinent questions to him, and did I get a reply? Zilch! At least Sir Desmond had the decency to reply to me, and he put the question out there in Parliament. Can’t knock him for that.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 16, 2020 8:37 PM
Reply to  Gizmo007

Thanks, Gizmo007
 
I would certainly like to think his question was ‘genuine’ and he wasn’t just trying to double bluff his own constituents. I do question my own cynicism regularly but, to be honest, I see 95% of MPs as possessing little in the way of integrity and honesty, and capable of anything that suits the agenda!
 

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 10:36 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

I’m about to email him myself. I did wonder about his reaction to Hancocks levity as he replied, and also I had a twinge of doubt about the ‘chemistry’ between them during that short clip! I’ll ask him about those arranged PQs.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 16, 2020 11:00 PM
Reply to  Watt

Noted, Watt. I have tried to find an Internet reference to ‘arranged PQs’ but have found absolutely nothing. I always thought the principle of them seemed rather duplicitous but when I was involved with them they were arguably deployed for legitimate purposes e.g. to publicise the availability of new guidance material, adoption of new legislation or progress on specific policy negotiations within the EU. It would seem that the existence of arranged PQs is very much kept a Civil Service/Ministerial secret!
 
I would be very interested to know what reply you receive.
 
 

Watt
Watt
Jul 19, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Hi Judy, I received so far an auto reply. In there he says he generally replies via Royal Mail which requires me to send a full residential address. I’m reflecting on that!
Cheers
Watt

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 20, 2020 12:06 AM
Reply to  Watt

Hi Watt,
 
Much appreciate the update. I shall keep an eye open for any further ‘interventions’ that he may make on this and other coronavirus control measures. I see that he doesn’t refer to any of this on his Twitter feed but I probably shouldn’t read too much into that.
 
Many thanks. 😀

Daniel Spaniel
Daniel Spaniel
Jul 16, 2020 11:11 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

So what? No such thing as bad publicity… better to say something than not… I haven’t actually seen this.. so apologies if I speak out of turn.. but I would rather see a High Tory speak up than see no-one speak up. As George Burley used to say… all credit where it’s due.

Mister Bump
Mister Bump
Jul 16, 2020 8:02 PM
Reply to  Gizmo007

Wait, your MP doesnt reply to you? I’ve never heard of that before. They required as part of their ‘honor’ as representative to respond to all letters from constituents within 14 days. If they are not then you need to complain to parliament.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Jul 16, 2020 9:35 PM
Reply to  Mister Bump

Mr Bump – The 4 questions I put to my MP were like hot potatoes! To answer them honestly and truthfully would have admitted gross negligence or total mismanagement of this whole corona virus pandemic by the Government. Boris is still trying to brush the whole thing under the carpet. ‘Oh we will have an enquiry sometime or other’. I won’t hold my breath!

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 16, 2020 7:15 AM

I would have thought by now that our experience in the US would have chastened everyone. The US is a large, diverse, place and there’s been no national policy with regard to C-19 precautions. The result from places that either denied that C-19 was a problem or figured they had licked it by Memorial Day are now learning the hard way that it just ain’t so. Its nice to know that we’re still a world leader in some fields.   The Trump administration has been trying to warp reality around the virus for months because it interfered with their agenda, especially their election timetable.It hasn’t worked. Their latest gambit is to muzzle individuals like Dr. Fauci and organizations like the CDC. Dr/ Fauci has challenged them, effectively telling them to stop screwing around and get with the program. As for the CDC, channeling information that normally goes to this organization… Read more »

Basher
Basher
Jul 16, 2020 8:01 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Nice parroting of MSM. You know we can all read that too? It’s not that we haven’t seen it. OffG exists to shine a light on the areas the MSM won’t, they don’t really lie outright, it’s that they lie by omission. This is how those whose who rely ONLY on ´facts’ they were spoon fed, don’t even know those shadow zones of geopolitical narrative exist.

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jul 16, 2020 9:59 AM
Reply to  Basher

They do occasionally lie outright. Manafort visiting Assange for example.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 16, 2020 8:37 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

c19 is a fantasy. professor drosten baced the pcr test on social media speculation: https://youtu.be/Cdq80ijbj-I

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jul 16, 2020 8:46 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

America is a shit hole.
The last country in the world you’d want to take care of a so called pandemic.
Murder is their currency fool.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jul 16, 2020 2:28 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Couldn’t agree more.
 
’merica is a rogue nation and should be ostracised until it arrives at the gates of oblivion

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 16, 2020 9:52 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Your “government ” is a criminal enterprise.
 

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 16, 2020 2:57 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

It’s well organised. Don’t believe otherwise.

That more children died in the UK from suicide brought on by lockdown than of Covid-19 unmasks the true psychopathic face of the capitalist ruling class.

Bill Gates tried to repress a smirk when he said a rushed vaccine may cause health problems. Now the American military are being injected. Will it be a repeat of Gulf War Syndrome?

Watt
Watt
Jul 16, 2020 10:49 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

They’re injecting the US military? Fort Detrick flu revisited? That’s what came to be known as the ‘Spanish Flu’, as I’m sure more than a few here recognise that pernicious sleight of hand.

Reg
Reg
Jul 16, 2020 5:17 AM
Mishko
Mishko
Jul 16, 2020 12:42 PM
Reply to  Reg

Yes and no. Mr. Rappoport already knows the answer.