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argentine
argentine
Aug 14, 2020 12:00 AM

Davis is a Jew, kill him

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 14, 2020 9:49 AM
Reply to  argentine

Troll alert. “argentine” just posted “Ahmed is a Jew, kill him” on part 2 of this article. Thus trying to divert attention for the sake of applying the “anti-Semitism” card.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 14, 2020 8:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

FFS! Off-Guardian. Remove the comment by Argentine.

There is no way to flag comments.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Aug 13, 2020 12:47 PM

Not sure I approve of the way the guy in the photo’s bike’s been carelessly leaned against that hedge.

After all…Black Bikes Matter!

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 13, 2020 10:25 AM

A human rights activist from Belarus has claimed the security forces once threatened to kidnap her son when he was a month old.”

SKY NEWS

County Girl
County Girl
Aug 13, 2020 1:14 PM
Reply to  Grafter

It happens in the UK too. In 2013 a writer – with his own website – wrote articles about the false flags. He did an excellent job of showing the incident in London was one such drama with ‘crisis’ actors and a dummy for a dead body. His local police force, on behalf of their masters targeted him. One of the things they did to him (amongst many other things) was to threaten to take his baby grandchild into care. His adult daughter and her child lived with him at this time. The local council and social services involved due to the lies of the police. Luckily authority did not succeed with taking the child, but they did other things to this writer, including a court case, witnesses did not appear, written statements only. The witnesses did not exist in the names they used in their roles as crisis actors.… Read more »

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Aug 13, 2020 3:48 PM
Reply to  County Girl

You got the link please?

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 13, 2020 6:35 PM
Reply to  County Girl

I agree that the bombing was staged and a psyop. Once again, it was interrupting a so called ‘drill’ that was already underway. It was a cover up and the Brazilian who was pumped full of bullets later by the SAS is evidence of something that stinks. But the guy you’re talking about brings a lot of crap he gets on himself with his over the top swearing and accusations. I’d also say that his attempts at photo analysis to expose crisis actors is often embarrassing.

He spoils his writing and the points he makes with trying to sound like a 1970s skinhead in a middle aged man’s body.he actually gives others who pursue truth and a way to expose it a bad name and plays right into the hands of dickheads like Ahmed.

County Girl
County Girl
Aug 13, 2020 7:26 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

I wasn’t talking about a bombing in the particular incident I was referring to above. I didn’t mention the actual incident as the writer cannot mention it now due to restrictions, and I’m not sure whether his readers can refer to it elsewhere. We cannot mention it on his website. It did not involve a Brazilian guy, or the tube and a bus. The Brazilian guy was the fall guy in that case. In the case I am referring to the ‘victim’ did not actually exist as the person he was portrayed as, in fact the ‘victim’ did not exist. His ‘family’ were played by crisis actors. It took place in 2013 in London and involved one ‘victim’. As for the writer’s skills in photo analysis, they are excellent. I agree he sometimes is a little ‘over the top’ in comparing one person to another. Are you saying that he… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 13, 2020 8:42 PM
Reply to  County Girl

”. Are you saying that he deserves to be punished by the powers that be, even though he has done nothing wrong and broken no laws? Punished because some people may see him as a little eccentric, or punished because he can see the truth and spells it out to others?” I don’t think anyone should be arrested or persecuted or harassed by the police. If they break the law then yes.If they haven’t, and they aren’t then no. And if anyone is arrested or publicly accused of committing a crime when he hasn’t, then he has the opportunity, and in this case proof, that the police have harassed him and defamed his character.It also stands for the powers that be.They should be made to prove that the culprit has passed on lies or broken a law. The man you’re talking about says the bombing was fake and a psyop… Read more »

County Girl
County Girl
Aug 13, 2020 9:05 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

‘In the three incidents we’re talking about here’ quotation from your comment above. I only mentioned one incident in my comment re: the threat of having a child removed. I am not talking about three incidents, only you are.

‘Nobody wants mad rants in their face.’ quotation from your comment above. The writer I was talking about has not performed any mad rants in anyone’s face – he is writing on a website. The readers chose to connect to his website. If they don’t like what he writes they don’t have to link to his website. It sounds to me as if you don’t like what Chris writes. So why are you looking at his website and reading it?

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 13, 2020 10:35 PM
Reply to  County Girl

. ”It sounds to me as if you don’t like what Chris writes. So why are you looking at his website and reading it?” You’ll notice that the incidents / psyops / stories i cited are years old.That was when i read it, went through the other stuff, and drew my conclusions. I’ve looked at a lot of sites that claim to be ‘alt’ and wanting to expose the truth.It takes a lot of sifting before you end up with a select few. If you don’t look you don’t know. I maintain that if he can write- which i believe he can- and he wants to expose the mainstream BS, then he should. But to over sensationalise and use over the top language for effect and shock value he’s shooting himself in the foot. The photo analyses made a lot of people walk away because, like most others with little… Read more »

Bryan
Bryan
Aug 13, 2020 4:16 AM

This is not Fascism any more than it’s communism, capitalism, or whatever way which people have been ruling over others. It’s Totalitarianism and it really always has been. Have there been periods of abatement? Sure but it was biding its time til the technology caught up. There is no correlation to what’s about to happen unless you look to science fiction. Let’s face it, the internet was a complete trap. Coupled with portable computers (mobile phones) we were baited and fell for it. If this were 20 years ago it couldn’t have happened. I fear only Divine Intervention will prevent the inevitable technocracy. So argue among yourselves over politics or strategies or whatever. It’s too late for that don’t you think? Will there be some smoking gun of info that will suddenly get everyone to think rationally? Is there a political hero coming in to save the day? A martyr… Read more »

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Aug 12, 2020 9:16 PM

BAD LUCK  “Then again, this really isn’t of any concern for the multinational corporations, like Astrazeneca, who make vaccines. As usual, they have been given immunity from prosecution. They have no liability for vaccine injury, and therefore have everything to gain and absolutely nothing to lose.” This is the most significant point–we’re all at the mercy of billion dollar pharmaceutical companies whose first objective is profit. “The United States Supreme Court reached a decision, concluding that federal law protects vaccine makers from product-liability lawsuits that are filed in state courts and seek damages for injuries or death attributed to a vaccine. In the 57-page opinion written by Justice Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court explained that the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (NCVIA or Act) preempts all design-defect claims against vaccine manufacturers brought by plaintiffs seeking compensation for injury or death caused by a vaccine side effects. The Court’s… Read more »

paul
paul
Aug 12, 2020 11:32 PM

What are you worrying about?
Vaccines are SAFE.
Well, ok, maybe the odd one isn’t, like Thalidomide.
Or the Gulf War vaccine.
Or some of Billy Gates’s less successful efforts in India
But don’t worry about any of that, unless you’re a hate speech anti vaxxer.
Luckily we’ve got Newsguard and Zuckerberg and Luke Harding to weed out all these miscreants.
Certainly puts my mind at rest.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Aug 13, 2020 11:31 AM
Reply to  paul

You forgot Opioids advertised as non-addictive, but in the US is responsible for 70,000 deaths each year.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 14, 2020 3:56 PM
Reply to  paul

“ Vaccines are SAFE.
Well, ok, maybe the odd one isn’t, like Thalidomide. “

FAKE FACT from paul.

Thalidomide was a sedative used to treat morning sickness in early pregnancy- which ended up causing deformities in the babies.

Not therefore a ‘vaccine’.

As a drug it seems to have been effective since in treatment of some diseases but isn’t prescribed much – probably as it is out of patent!

Glad to be of service, Paul.

Torontonian
Torontonian
Sep 9, 2020 9:03 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

And what about the other ones he sited? All good right— soooooo your point is what? that both allopathic drugs AND vaccine kill and maim? Your right!

Torontonian
Torontonian
Sep 9, 2020 9:02 PM
Reply to  paul

Well said– ahhhh how people forget…

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 12, 2020 11:48 PM

I wonder how many judges took the pharma envelope beforehand. It smells like a Warren Report.

The worst part for me is that their rationalising it by saying basically ”if you get financially compensated, then thousands more will have to be as well so tough”. It’s indirectly conceding that the vaccine had damaged en masse..

A great example of placing capitalism and greed above the sanctity of life.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Aug 13, 2020 1:54 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Yep, they’re afraid thousands will
sue for damages.

“The CDC and FDA established The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System in 1990. The goal of VAERS, according to the CDC, is “to detect possible signals of adverse events associated with vaccines.” (A signal in this case is evidence of a possible adverse event that emerges in the data collected.) About 30,000 events are reported each year to VAERS.
Between 10% and 15% of these reports describe serious medical events that result in hospitalization, life-threatening illness, disability, or death.”
https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-side-effects-and-adverse-events

Silverstin
Silverstin
Aug 12, 2020 6:44 PM

Rexton
Aug 12, 2020 6:26 PM
Awaiting for approval

Covid will last until the 3rd of November and the US election, the fix is in, the US is converting into a dictatorship from that date and the Covid scare will lock down the population to prevent a civil war.
European states should detain all US personal in their capitals until it becomes clear who is in power, to prevent CIA operations in Europe. The US could decay into a civil war following the loss of the world reserve currency.

Carlo Weeks
Carlo Weeks
Aug 12, 2020 7:26 PM
Reply to  Silverstin

I think you will find it’s going to be all UN member states. The UN have been increasing their power for decades. First through non binding agreements Agenda 21. Then binding agreements through Agenda 2030. We are all screwed.

Jeep
Jeep
Aug 12, 2020 9:05 PM
Reply to  Carlo Weeks

Christ…Do you know what the UN is?….have you any idea how stupid what you said is.

The UN is a meeting room for foreign diplomats from 180 odd countries. It has no opinion, it has no autonomy, it has no power. Keep away from geopolitics, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Carlo Weeks
Carlo Weeks
Aug 12, 2020 9:50 PM
Reply to  Jeep

I don’t claim to be an expert but have done a lot of research over the last twenty years, sufficient to form a view which I am happy to defend along with your right to disagree. I know exactly who the UN are. The 193 nations that make up the UN do reach agreements between the leaders of those nations. Those agreements are then presented as “recommendations” which each country follows, regardless of which Party you vote for. The WHO is an agency of the UN. The WHO Director General is also worthy of scrutiny not least for his actions in a leading role of the TPLF. Also because of Dr. Ghebreyesus leadership incompetency, Ethiopia was affected by Cholera almost every year during his tenure and actually his refusal to declare an epidemic actually caused the disease to be disseminated throughout the country. His character can also be gauged by his… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 12, 2020 11:56 PM
Reply to  Carlo Weeks

” his refusal to declare an epidemic actually caused the disease to be disseminated throughout the country. His character can also be gauged by his idea to put Robert Mugabe forward for a Nobel Peace Prize!! Could we wish for a better leader of the WHO??”

Actually, you’ve just described the perfect set of ticked boxes that the actual leader of the WHO would be impressed by.That being nihilist and eugenicist, Bill Gates.

Gates is the WHO biggest financial supporter. It’s his blood running through it’s veins.Dr Ghebreyesus just dances when Bill throws his loose change.Like every other sponsored ventriloquist dummy he pays in varying institutions.

Carlo Weeks
Carlo Weeks
Aug 13, 2020 12:19 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

You got it one.
If you would like to know more about his “qualities” and suitability for the task his master has set (namely saving humanity by reducing world population) you should read this report by the Amhara Professionals Union Research Department produced in April 2017.
https://ecadforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/APU_opposes_candidacy_of_Dr_TAG.pdf?x35370

Unless people wake up before this winters flu season, which is unlikely given the tight control of the media, there is little chance we can avoid this. As I said in my earlier post, we are all screwed.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 13, 2020 4:26 PM
Reply to  Carlo Weeks

Thanks Carla. That, along with Robert Kennedy’s organisation ( PDF is available on that too) should be circulating non stop until people wake up and stop being stupid ( i can’t spell sheeple any more)

Carlo Weeks
Carlo Weeks
Aug 13, 2020 10:31 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

This post from Frances Leader is beginning to become a reality.

https://steemit.com/news/@francesleader/the-united-nations-global-objective-totalitarian-communism

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 13, 2020 10:46 PM
Reply to  Carlo Weeks

Pretty much does. It also- coincidentally- marries up exactly to the dates set for the rubber stamp that will render the human race, and freedom as a memory. As history. Something to be wiped from the global hard drive and collective memory.The books will go as well.It will be like we were never here. A New World Order would never work today. We can think and feel and reason.So the race needs to be gone.Only a fraction left. And that fraction will be Robots made of flesh with dead eyes and minds. Step one is technology ( nano ) and medicine ( vax). Step 2 is waiting( suffering). Step 3 is rescuing us with more technology and medicine( as above). They call it the ‘morphing’ of the amazing new religion , AI, and the old religion of humanity. ‘The best of both worlds’ will be the sales pitch. In reality,it’s… Read more »

Torontonian
Torontonian
Sep 9, 2020 9:05 PM
Reply to  Jeep

LOL!!! Do you know what the UN is– clearly not– wow! either you are a badly programmed bot or just……

Rexton
Rexton
Aug 12, 2020 6:26 PM

Covid will last until the 3rd of November and the US election, the fix is in, the US is converting into a dictatorship from that date and the Covid scare will lock down the population to prevent a civil war.
European states should detain all US personal in their capitals until it becomes clear who is in power, to prevent CIA operations in Europe. The US could decay into a civil war following the loss of the world reserve currency.

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 12, 2020 6:07 PM

The ideological fascism of the west was a direct creation of Roman Imperial state and its XX century reincarnations in a state form, symbols and fascist paraphernalia was directly drawn from Ancient Rome where fascisms was equated to civilizational revolution toward social progress similar propaganda angle to that of Stalinism. And in fact 20th century fascism was reincarnated by global oligarchy specifically to fight Bolshevik revolution in the midst of collapsing European imperial order. inspiring other revolutions all over the globe including massive class struggle in US before and after WWI. Shocking ignorance demonstrate those who think that Fascism and fascist political and capitalism based socioeconomic ideology including politicizing medicine and science is somehow alien or contradictory to methods used by American ruling elites since inception of US. Ideology of fascism is bread and butter of American economic and political system. Best example to illustrate the case is Benito Mussolini… Read more »

Sillerton
Sillerton
Aug 12, 2020 6:41 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Facism was created in Italy, there is your tenuous link to the Roman world. The Italian fascist stole the nationalism and militarism but Rome was a dictatorship and a tyranny, it is hard to call it a fascist state in the same way Germany was, or America is.

Germans knew what Pogroms were, they were as old as European states, there was nothing new in the murder of Jews, so they knew what was happening.

Silverstin
Silverstin
Aug 12, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Sillerton
Aug 12, 2020 6:41 PM
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Reply to  Kalen

Fascism was created in Italy, there is your tenuous link to the Roman world. The Italian fascist stole the nationalism and militarism but Rome was a dictatorship and a tyranny, it is hard to call it a fascist state in the same way Germany was, or America is.
Germans knew what Pogroms were, they were as old as European states, there was nothing new in the murder of Jews, so they knew what was happening.

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 12, 2020 7:19 PM
Reply to  Silverstin

I wrote that symbology of Italian and in part German fascism was adopted. Even Mussolini party Combat League, ”Fasci di Combattimento”referred to Roman legions fighting barbarians of western decadence. Content was of course modern.

Nazis in turn always referred to First Reich I.e, Roman Empire of German nations starting around 800 AD. Third Reich was supposedly the last Reich rulimg tje world for 1000 years or more, longer than Roman Empire.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 12, 2020 6:54 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Good and accurate critique.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 12, 2020 7:20 PM
Reply to  Kalen

You are spreading disinformation about the Roman Empire.

Mussolini and Italy has NOTHING to do with the Pax Romana.

You’d know that if you realised just how many Roman ‘Caesar’s’ were NOT from ‘Italy’ they even had Africans in the highest positions.

Slaves could be king!

Paul Cardin
Paul Cardin
Aug 12, 2020 5:57 PM

Imran Ahmed was Angela Eagle’s PR man during the summer of lies known as #Brickgate, when we were told Eagle’s constituency office window had been smashed by Jeremy Corbyn supporters. It took six months but eventually the police report was released and we discovered that this story had been the product of a fertile and hateful imagination. I would suggest the originator was Imran Ahmed. Being local, and to fill the vacuum, I took it upon myself to carry out some detailed investigations. More about Imran Ahmed here:

https://wirralinittogether.blog/2016/12/08/brickgate-angela-eagles-pr-man-imi-ahmed-throws-his-weight-around-on-twitter/

Reg
Reg
Aug 13, 2020 1:04 AM
Reply to  Paul Cardin

Why am I not surprised that these Blairite vermin keeping popping up to spread their lies

Maxwell
Maxwell
Aug 12, 2020 5:49 PM

AVG Age of “Death by Covid”: Austria 80+ years Source EMS; Canada 86 years Source HCSC; England 80+ years Source NHS; France 84 years Source SPF; Germany 82 years Source RKI; Italy 81 years Source ISS; Spain 82 years Source MDS;  Switzerland 84 years Source BAG; United States 80 years Source CDC;  Sweden 86 years Source FOHM A “global pandemic” is certainly not defined by age of deaths EXCEEDING the normal lifespan with no young healthy people are affected. I will offer up just a few broad comments and put details to them if you wish: 1) There is no excess death toll due to virus- that death toll is due to policy shifts and attribution to “Covid” is patently false when not outright administrative corruption by health officials;  2) Above “excess” death toll is an artifact of nursing home mismanagement- 60% of “covid deaths” from nursing homes + or –… Read more »

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 12, 2020 6:10 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

All excellent points.

Silverstin
Silverstin
Aug 12, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

It is even scarier than that, Because they know everything you say is true, yet they continue the lie. So you need to ask yourself a difficult question, WHY?

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 12, 2020 7:48 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Number 11: why big Pharma would want to focus on developing Coronavirus vaccine in emergency mode, dangerously bypassing well established scientific protocol only to test vaccines predominantly on healthy children and adults who are not vulnerable to COVID or whatever it is, at all.

Answer: huge size of market, huge profits, blanket legal and medical and expected manageable adversary side effects among young aimed at skewing trials’ to positive results despite deadly toxicity, medical blunders, deception, fraud, lack of efficacy, coverup and corruption stemming from insufficient testing and maddening dash for the prize money: massive orders paid by global taxpayers.

Paul
Paul
Aug 12, 2020 9:32 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Exactly. How many trials involve the elderly?
It’s absolute gibberish from big pharma to say the vaccine is producing an immune response to defeat this virus if it even exists.
The immune system of the overwhelming majority of people would fight it off.
They know damn well.
Complete scam.

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 14, 2020 12:02 PM
Reply to  Paul

True any poisons induces strong immune response. By itself it means nothing. What real vaccine tests must prove is that those specifically induced by vaccine antibodies block viral receptors of extra cellular viral body and disable, prevent infected cells from reproducing viral proteins without killing human cells. In fact most antibody tests follow LISA protocols not full neutralization and hence are indirect detectors of specific antibodies on the top of lack of even basic purification preventing determination which hi particular ingredient of biological soup is active and which are acting detrimental to patient. The concept of vaccine and vaccinations in context of Koch postulates and genetically stable bacterial pathogens and few slowly mutating viral pathogens is valid as long as it is not about mass vaccinations but driven by circumstances for specific epidemiological threats and targeted toward vulnerable population. In case of COVID, vaccinations of elderly may be an option… Read more »

Captain Spock
Captain Spock
Aug 12, 2020 9:48 PM
Reply to  Kalen

On top of that, the ingredients in the injections will aid in the dumbing down of the world population to an even greater degree, and that takes precedence, above any financial gain.

Paul
Paul
Aug 12, 2020 9:28 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Great summary

Dors
Dors
Aug 13, 2020 3:29 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Your AVG Age of “Death by Covid” is fascinating. It would be a pity to go without direct references to the source for each of the figures*. To just claim the facts without reference would raise suspicions in the average person, to whom it is also arduous work to check each one. Best,

(*) or an authoritative source for all

Maxwell
Maxwell
Aug 13, 2020 6:18 PM
Reply to  Dors

Agree- and it is arduous work- which I have done- you need to go to each of those agencies listed individually.

I will be posting a more referenced and detailed report in the future.

Ken Garoo
Ken Garoo
Aug 12, 2020 4:44 PM

It is a good job the CCDH wasn’t around when Galileo was proposing his ‘fringe’ theory that the Earth revolved around the Sun in opposition to the ‘sensible’, ‘common sense’ view that the Sun revolved around the Earth.

Oh wait ……

He faced the Cardinals Countering Devilish Heresy.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 5:19 PM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

LOL, I can imagine Snopes stamping Galileo’s conspiracy theory as “False”

Nikoz Coleman
Nikoz Coleman
Aug 13, 2020 5:56 AM
Reply to  Reg

I actually do believe Galileo’s heliocentric views were false, there is no real evidence to support him, only systematic propaganda and assumptions, whereas Aristotle and the vast amount of Geocentrics did provide reasonable logic. The heliocentric view, like evolution, is only theory, buy is pushed as fact, as for over a century continues to fool the masses of the world, it was created by a cult of Sun worshipers, who venerated the solar invictus, but the psychological motive was to alter people’s cosmological and psychological view, so the earth was no longer seem the centre but the sun would be, so our planet and its inhabitants can be portrayed as insignificant and not with a divine special purpose, only the elite occults in the hierarchy, young children, and some considered fringe religious lunatics really know the truth, that both the sun and moon do orbit the Earth, this actually is… Read more »

Epousedesacrecoeur
Epousedesacrecoeur
Aug 13, 2020 1:18 PM
Reply to  Nikoz Coleman

Exactly, absolutely correct. The universe is geocentric, not heliocentric and the scientists know it, which is why it is hidden from the masses due to the societal implications that would occur if people accepted the fact that the universe is geocentric.

Glenda
Glenda
Aug 13, 2020 5:27 AM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

Voltaire “Our wretched species is so made that those who walk a well-trodden path always throw stones at those who are showing a new road.”

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 3:48 PM

The key to the Great Cronyvirus Cover-Up . . .

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 12, 2020 4:08 PM
Reply to  Reg

That’s the Wiener brothers, Obama and Clintons Pizzagate thing.The child abuse ring.I didn’t hear the coronavirus mentioned.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 12, 2020 4:43 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

It’s very clear coronavirus has a political angle: COVID-19 Is Beating Trump, Aug 3, 2020 by Michael Spence, David W. Brady

Project-Syndicate is used by the NeoLiberal elite to circulate messages they want you to absorb: https://www.project-syndicate.org/about

Dors
Dors
Aug 12, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Moneycircus, The last time I read anything published on Project Syndicate was Yanis Varoufakis warning of totalitarianism. (https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2020/06/01/a-chronicle-of-a-lost-decade-foretold-filmsforaction-project-syndicate) And Project Syndicate also publishes Bjorn Lomborg. I sometimes wonder what makes the Neoliberal elite want the public to absorb their messages.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 13, 2020 12:36 PM
Reply to  Dors

The need for credibility. Of course you must include some “alternative” voices though I’m not sure if those two are outside the mainstream.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

This was before the cronyvirus psyop was activated. Now in this New World Order all the old crimes have almost been swept away. Let’s see how things pan out. Hillary, the bride of Moloch, is due to appear in court on September 9.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 12, 2020 4:18 PM
Reply to  Reg

You’re right, Reg. Sydney Powell’s comment is absolutely relevant to what’s happening now, including Event Covid. Priority number one is to get Clinton/Democrats/Deep State back in control of the White House to batten down the hatches. There is loads of money at stake in the profit-driven health scams. I suspect the Green New Deal-Agenda 21-Great Reset crowd are using a related event, the monetary crisis, to advance their agenda opportunistically. I’ve posted this before but this explains the above: Tedros, Fauci, Gates and Co. can only be understood if we shake off the blinkers and understand how corruption and politics work. We have to try to see the crookedness from inside, because crooks don’t operate independently. And there’s a thread that links them all. Charles Ortel has shown how the Clinton Global Initiative was “a confederation of con artists that would meet in NYC around the time of the UN… Read more »

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 5:11 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Your summing-up is bang on the money, Money. Yes, this is a massive operation to ensure no one among the elites has to face the music for anything. They’ll simply throw scraps at us, like a Bernie Madoff or a Jimmy Savile or an Epstein.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 12, 2020 5:38 PM
Reply to  Reg

It’s ever more blatant. It’s the same friends of Epstein who are the Technocracy who are behind The Great Reset and who are, simultaneously, profiting from Event Covid. It’s a racket. Billionaires who built their fortune on monopolies and government subsidies… turn around and stage a fake crisis to milk the taxpayer. The WHO is not a government body. It is an agency* run by Bill Gates, with a chief, Tedros, installed by the Clintons. Its power lies in its ability to influence governments to open the sluice gates. On the WHO’s say-so, governments release a flood of taxpayer cash to corporations (big pharma) or to charities (run by foundations run by corporations). What the….? Gates or Clinton says HIV AIDS needs billions > WHO gives its imprimature > governments send $$$ > Gates and Clinton. Haiti earthquake? Hey, everybody. Give your donations to Bill Clinton. He’ll… err… do something… Read more »

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 12, 2020 8:58 PM
Reply to  Reg

That’s why they call Sydney the honey badger.

The Empires decline and fall is full of the perversions of these who believed themselves living Gods. They are demented enough to see their ‘Rome burn’ and Not Give A Damn as their dynastic ambitions fail so so publicly.

Reg
Reg
Aug 13, 2020 1:08 AM
Reply to  DunGroanin

I don’t get you. You’ll have to be a bit clearer please.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 13, 2020 9:34 AM
Reply to  Reg

She digs and gets the goods.

A proper hard skinned , truth seeking lawyer, who has retrieved Flynn from his previous traitor lawyers and the DoJ’s original machinations- in the process of which she has got hold of a LOT of material that leads to ALL the coup conspiracy and it seems from the clip – the smoking guns of plenty of other nastiness by the professional politicians.

Only in America now – I don’t think Gareth Pierce woul be able to do a Guildford 4 retrial anymore here.

However from Sydney’s brief it looks as deedee is going to have to take a bullet along with his bovver boy Steele.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 14, 2020 3:59 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

😂😂😂
Oh dear. Truth hurts?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Aug 12, 2020 3:43 PM

It is nice to see someone who knows what the term fascism means. But I fear that through constant misuse the term is beyond saving. Many people are simply going to continue to use the word as nothing more specific than an empty pejorative.

John
John
Aug 12, 2020 5:57 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

All too much clinging on to historical definitions has its disadvantages, history does not repeat iself in our rapidly changing societies. Totalitarianism takes on more refined shapes, also based on a mix of ideological ideals. Collectivism is the umbrella term, Nazism, communism and democracy are all collectivist ideologies. Collectivism is the dictatorship of the masses, which in a democracy becomes implicitly shaped by oligarchy (the current situation) which may then move on towards a dictatorship under the guidance of a dictator. One could argue that fascism requires a rare kind of power addicted strong leader, so far there is no such leader of such a rare nature in sight. Personally I prefer the term ‘crypto communism’ to describe the current state of affairs, and where it is heading (towards the current Chinese model). The word ‘crypto’ points to deception and inversion, different from the plain and bold ideologies. This type… Read more »

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 3:30 PM

The vice-like grip of the moneychangers keeps the yoke firmly on the neck of humanity . . .

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Aug 12, 2020 7:08 PM
Reply to  Reg

Surely, you mean the Knee on the neck of… 😉

Reg
Reg
Aug 13, 2020 1:13 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Or the boot on the human face. Knee on the neck reminds me too much of Georgie boy the porn star, the martyr of the normies.

Doubledown
Doubledown
Aug 12, 2020 3:10 PM

CIA’s costs & disciplinary procedures.

Dept of ‘Justice’ Banking/Corporate fines = we is taxing your arse.
$100 billion dollars US phony nuclear ‘deterrent’ = we got a little ‘protection’ racket going.
One terror attack = you are going ‘off-piste’.
Burn down a national monument. = you are way out of line.
PM sex scandal = we warned you.
Big mother fucker terror attack. = You have crossed us. This is your last chance.
Economic sanctions. = We are destroying your country.
Civil unrest, CIA coup. = We is bringing you down and will murder and torture you al

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 4:56 PM
Reply to  Doubledown

‘Burn down a national monument. = you are way out of line.’

I never thought about this one….wonder what caused the fire at Windsor Palace….

Flexingtoo
Flexingtoo
Aug 12, 2020 3:04 PM

CIA’s costs & disciplinary procedures.

Dept of ‘Justice’ Banking/Corporate fines = we is taxing your arse.
$100 billon dollars US phony nuclear ‘deterrent’ = we got a little ‘protection’ racket going.
One terror attack = you are going ‘off-piste’.
Burn down a national monument. = you are way out of line.
PM sex scandal = we warned you.
Big mother fucker terror attack. = You have crossed us. This is your last chance.
Economic sanctions. = We are destroying your country.
Civil unrest, CIA coup. = We is bringing you down and will murder and torture you all.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 3:02 PM

Grace on that doll. It has to be stressed that this is the Satanic agenda. To destroy the children.

Doubledown
Doubledown
Aug 12, 2020 3:14 PM
Reply to  Reg

Have you ever read a fairy-tail to your children? ……..For gods sake. get a grip.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 3:30 PM
Reply to  Doubledown

Piss off, prick.

Silverstin
Silverstin
Aug 12, 2020 6:57 PM
Reply to  Reg

Scratch the thin veneer of vulgarity and below we find……

Reg
Reg
Aug 13, 2020 1:17 AM
Reply to  Silverstin

You find a fist coming at your face and you on your knees crying and begging for mercy

paul
paul
Aug 12, 2020 4:39 PM
Reply to  Doubledown

No, that’s what the Drag Queens are for.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Reply to  Doubledown

Only the fairy tales the Tavistock Clinic tell children and parents. Pure evil.

Dolly
Dolly
Aug 12, 2020 6:05 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

fairy tails are evil, that is the point of them.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 12, 2020 6:18 PM
Reply to  Doubledown

I shall give you the benefit of the doubt by suggesting that you haven’t actually watched the video beyond 1 minute 45 seconds.

Silverstin
Silverstin
Aug 12, 2020 6:57 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

You need a hobby.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Aug 12, 2020 7:12 PM
Reply to  Silverstin

You need to stick your real name up your arse and grow MUCH …
INCLUDING COURAGE!

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 12, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Blagodarya, Tim.

😀

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Aug 12, 2020 10:00 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

All-ways, a pleasure… 🙂

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Aug 12, 2020 10:28 PM
Reply to  Doubledown

If i could have double downvoted your completely SICK FAKE CHARACTERISATION,
I would have and if we were to meet, face to face, something to avoid, i would bring you down to earth physically, then psychologically, then intellectually and finally…
Philosophically. You complete Putka !
Diew lay le mo chau hai… meaning, go and lick your mother’s smelly ***t,
In Hong Kong. A cantonese expression, conveying utter contempt for your mother,
And you, naturally. Go get a real job, instead of sucking dick…
Apologies to other readers for the baseline, but A Troll is a troll and
A doll with a fucked up childhood, quite clearly!
Clearly, you have no actual conscience, usually the result of
Pathetic Parents. Or were you preyed upon, as an orphan child?

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Aug 12, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  Reg

The programme’s ticking along nicely for the paedophiles in power… It used to be about teaching kids about reproduction, birds and bees, where babies come from. Then it was about teaching children at a ‘much younger’ age as we live in a dangerous world.Yes, they got that right. So it went that children were taught about reproduction but not as a way of explaining where we come from, but how the act is ‘pleasurable’ and nothing to be afraid of.And it can be ‘fun’.This is the crap they feed kids of 5 years old. All the time in the background, the world is up in arms as powerful people in high places are caught or accused of paedophilia.Even more get their friends to cover it up. So, sexualise the children( they’ve already stopped running around and playing as much as they used to), then normalise sex. That leads to the… Read more »

Flexingtoo
Flexingtoo
Aug 12, 2020 2:46 PM

So the British government has ordered 60 million jabs of a, as yet, undeveloped, untested, Covid vaccine, for a mandatory?…. vaccination program.

With a vaccine that will be the first of its kind, not fully tested, for a common cold virus type which has been up until now impossible to vaccinate against, and for an illness which 99.6% of the population will suffer no proven long lasting ill effects. ……said Alice to the Mad Hatter.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Aug 12, 2020 3:43 PM
Reply to  Flexingtoo

And it’s the rna Vaccine remember!

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Aug 12, 2020 5:15 PM
Reply to  Flexingtoo

There may be hope. Our local Five Eyes newspaper reported that those nasty Russiand are rushing through a COVID vaccine. The article below it headlines that we, on the other hand, will be very careful and test adequately. Meaning? There could be a positive outcome – no vaccine imminent, or possibly forever – simply because we must do the opposite of what the hated Russkis do.

PWL
PWL
Aug 12, 2020 2:40 PM

Tweeted a link to article, UK Government’s pointless Covid-19 vaccine; the ultimate in vaccination for the sake of being vaccinated. A response (not dealing, of course, with any of the content – not even the bit about all the test monkeys falling ill): if the internet had been invented in 1950s, polio would still exist, with the implication being that a vaccine cured polio. Well, putting aside the issue of vaccines merely hiding symptoms, this twitter user (joined May 2020) was pointed to evidence (John Rappaport) of decline of polio due to better living conditions.Response: “Yeah I’m going to believe people who have studied the disease for their entire lives and the research instead of your personal little blog.” Or, I’m here to pour scorn on the information linked to so that those on the plantation won’t follow. A PR operative’s technique as old as the internet. By the way,… Read more »

PWL
PWL
Aug 12, 2020 2:54 PM
Reply to  PWL

By the way, and despite the difference it won’t make:
Right wing: anarchism (absence of government, not chaos).
Left wing: statism (either through government’s own arms, or licensed out to corporations [fascism]).

Sodbury
Sodbury
Aug 12, 2020 2:18 PM

Join the Mafia party:

I see Putin thought, if the US is going to have fake virus, then I is going to come up with a fake vaccine, and if anyone wants to call me out, then make my day punk, I got a lot of information on a non-existent virus to publish, if you want to call my bluff baby.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Aug 12, 2020 2:27 PM
Reply to  Sodbury

Fake problem
Fake reaction
Fake solution

And buckets of fake information on a fake VIRUS

Sodbury
Sodbury
Aug 12, 2020 2:38 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Putin the quinticiential KGP officer, who plays the west’s bluff with a double bluff and counter bluff…….check mate to Russia…… And you Yankees better say my snake-oil-vaccine works or you is toast.

Flexingtoo
Flexingtoo
Aug 12, 2020 2:40 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Sodbury
Aug 12, 2020 2:38 PM
Awaiting for approval
Reply to Arsebiscuits

Putin the quintessential KGP officer, who plays the west’s bluff with a double bluff and counter bluff……check mate to Russia…… And you Yankees better say my snake-oil-vaccine works or you is toast.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Aug 12, 2020 1:20 PM

If you’re interested in scientific studies that objectively question vaccine safety Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s site (Children’s Health Defense) is quite excellent. They’ve also refused to be sucked into the corona-hysteria vortex, which naturally makes them doubly “hateful” no doubt in the eyes those like CCDH who hope to censor and outlaw any and all critical thought that strays from “official narratives” –

https://childrenshealthdefense.salsalabs.org/kennedynewsviewstruthwithrfkjralecbaldwinberlin?wvpId=7196f1b7-525e-40b4-a0d8-49e589a404e5

(“Oceania was at war with coronavirus; therefore Oceania had always been at war with coronavirus!”) – Orwell quote – were he still alive to witness our current madness

Mr Y
Mr Y
Aug 12, 2020 2:55 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Orwell witnessed his part of madness as a footman for the British Empire …

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Aug 12, 2020 4:21 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

Meaning apparently that Orwell couldn’t possibly have anything meaningful to say about propaganda to those who are so very – “pure of heart” – am I to deduce from your comment?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 12, 2020 1:05 PM

Ideologies are a ten a penny. You only hear about the ones they put money behind. There are loads of think tanks, theorists and scriptwriters. It’s the producer that matters. Mr Moneybags. Without him you don’t have a show. Power sets up the political system, not the other way around. Yes, there are belief systems and theorists and grass roots politics but there is plenty of evidence that Big Label Political Systems and the Ringmasters are controlled by Big Money. It should not even need stating. Power exists outside of politics. There was power when it used religion rather than political ideology to control people. There was power before there were parties. There was power before there were parliaments. There was power before there were nation states. The first consideration of power brokers should be, ‘what system of rule do we want?’ The second consideration should be, ‘how do we disguise… Read more »

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 12, 2020 1:30 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The Corporations (the foundations are just their shop windows) have been active in shaping all the major political shows — the wars and the political systems that result.”

An excellent point. Politics became an arm of business long, long ago.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 12, 2020 1:35 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

But behind it all is the battle for and control of resources. The human animal does not consume/eat or drink “power”, he/she eat/consumes food and drinks water. One does read of “power riots”, one reads of “food riots.”

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 5:06 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Follow the money. All good bankers know that. This is where power flows from, authority flows from politics.

Howard
Howard
Aug 12, 2020 5:10 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

And no matter what stripe the system wears, it shares one common thread with all others: it cannot and will not abide anarchy. I’m speaking of course of actual, literal anarchy – not some organized grouping that’s fixated with the term because it sounds really cool. Anarchy is to organization as water is to an oil spill.

gordon
gordon
Aug 12, 2020 12:26 PM

the guy above or is it a girl with a stick on beard
is she on hormone therapy
what is it
looks like london
mongrel city for the world
cannot see any tattoo mark of the beast

my life already
so it must be a very naughty non semite
a khazar pirate
on the make

as one of the deleted comments already mentioned
said

this really is a 13th tribe issue
is it not
my life already

Platov
Platov
Aug 12, 2020 12:14 PM

The surreal dystopian events of the past five months can not be explained by a single narrative or “conspiracy theory.” One can document how disparate events have been deliberately and maliciously manipulated and misrepresented but there is no single theory that is able to account for all of them. I think there were many powerful players with different agendas, and the result was a “perfect storm” of manipulation by fear, cowardice,
incompetence, power lust and, of course, greed. Ironically, they have unleashed various forces over which they are losing control, forces which ultimately may destroy them.

daz
daz
Aug 12, 2020 3:00 PM
Reply to  Platov

all governments and media everywhere on earth are all synchronised putting out the same (false) messages at the same time all year, and you don’t think there is a single entity moving it all?

world economic forum event 201 – bill and melinda gates of hell – and everyone else funding the who and hoping to make a killing (intended) on poisonous vaccines.

and nobody voted for any of them.

i bet you don’t consider yourself that naive do you?

Platov
Platov
Aug 12, 2020 4:11 PM
Reply to  daz

The amount of money to be made on a possible vaccine is trivial in comparison to
worldwide economic losses resulting from the supposed pandemic. How can Bill and Melinda Gates maintain control over hundreds, if not thousands, of other oligarchs who have been losing money and power as a result of it? This is just one of the many agendas. It is just too simplistic to explain all of the different phenomena that have been occurring. Perhaps it was the original genie let out of the bottle but the many “unintended consequences” have taken over and are out of control.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 5:09 PM
Reply to  Platov

when you are at the very top losing a few billion is nothing. Real wealth accumulates in these donw times (property and more slaves). They play the long game 50-100-200 years. They are not like most of us, on the whole who can barely think beyond the day.

Platov
Platov
Aug 12, 2020 5:46 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

That may have been true in the past but this new batch of the obscenely rich is a completely different breed. They aren’t especially talented or intelligent, just monumentally greedy. The problem is that all the money they have accumulated by nefarious means comes from an enormous global Ponzi scheme based on illusory “future value” and the endless creation of money backed by nothing. This money is virtual and illusory, and will have little if any value when the U.S. economy collapses and the dollar drops precipitously in value.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 5:58 PM
Reply to  Platov

Which is why they are running the scam. 1) blame the virus so they don’t get dragged from their beds 2) drag in real assets from those who go under first and cement their legacies.

daz
daz
Aug 13, 2020 4:29 PM
Reply to  Platov

you really are that naive, fair enough.

first, the winner of the pretend vaccine lottery for the pretend disease will earn hundreds of billions of dollars. not trivial at all.

second, the same powers that were running the world during waterloo are running it now. follow the money, or the shareholders of the private central banks whose ponzi you are aware of.

and third, they are not accumulating ‘illusory future value,’ they are accumulating, land, property, companies, raw materials, communications, and infrastructure, plus they own all governments. we don’t have any national assets any more really do we?

Platov
Platov
Aug 13, 2020 6:40 PM
Reply to  daz

Let’s dispense with the ad hominem snarkiness, why don’t we?
A couple of hundred billion dollars is about what a single oligarch, Jeff Bezos is supposedly worth, and represents less than 1/400th of the total world’s total GDP (.25%), a rather trivial return for such a
massive global undertaking. Furthermore, real estate values will be be devastated in the West because of the economic devastation and much of work being done remotely at home as a result of the lockdown. As for factories, where are they? In the devastated rust
belts of the U.S. and the U.K.? The same applies to raw materials
needed for factories. Haven’t you heard of globalization?

Platov
Platov
Aug 12, 2020 4:40 PM
Reply to  daz

One of the unintended consequences is the most extreme political polarization the U.S. has experienced since the Civil War. Any sort of rational political discourse has been made impossible. Whatever the outcome is in the November Presidential election, it is clear that the losing side will not accept the outcome, and the U.S. may be headed for some sort of secession or civil war that will have global consequences.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Aug 12, 2020 5:05 PM
Reply to  daz

Reply to daz and Platov:

Question is IF we’re looking at forces (plural) bringing on this monstrosity are they divided and vulnerable to their own ego limitations and greed. This has been the path historically re “forces which ultimately may destroy them.”

daz
daz
Aug 13, 2020 4:31 PM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

unfortunately no. i’m sure there are egos and fights among the lower ranks, but the ship is steadily steered and will not be going off course any time soon.

Objective
Objective
Aug 12, 2020 11:15 AM

Dystopian Tomorrow!



Fixer
Fixer
Aug 12, 2020 11:29 AM
Reply to  Objective

it is Bill Gates job to be greedy, and it is your governments job to regulate him. Stop blaming the tools.

Objective
Objective
Aug 12, 2020 1:48 PM
Reply to  Fixer

Its not my government i’ve opted out.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 2:25 PM
Reply to  Fixer

It is not Gates’s “job”. He has chosen that path.
I am a musician, and, like most performers, I have to teach to make a living.
The teaching is my job. The performing is my life and who I am.
As for the government. We all know what its job is, but it doesn’t do it.
The tools you mention are the media, and they don’t do their job either.
So, when the media don’t do their job, and when the government doesn’t do its job, and when Bill Gates has chosen to play God, we have a situation which needs fixing. Perhaps you could help, Fixer?
They are all blameworthy, even if they try to shrug it off and hide behind somebody else.

hope
hope
Aug 12, 2020 11:08 AM

What has been planned is simply horrendous to contemplate. In many ways you are lucky in the UK or the US or Germany, you have straightforward, honest, known figures speaking out and trying to organize some form of resistance. You may not agree with all they say, like all humans they may make mistakes, but they are fully trust worthy. You also have trustworthy news sites like OffG, etc. Its not too complicated in those countries to meet in real life trustworthy peoples trying to fight back. Where I live, its so complex that you have got no clue who to even trust. Every time you think you’ve found someone, some group, you realise you havent, because they are to begin with not transparent, they are adept at using psychology to make you feel they are the opposition, when in effect they may be working for goodness knows whom. There… Read more »

covidiot
covidiot
Aug 12, 2020 11:23 AM
Reply to  hope
paul
paul
Aug 12, 2020 11:49 AM
Reply to  covidiot

For English speakers : https://www.globalresearch.ca/

hope
hope
Aug 12, 2020 3:20 PM
Reply to  covidiot

Yes Ive known that site for many years now. But what about a reliable site within France itself?

covidiot
covidiot
Aug 12, 2020 11:01 PM
Reply to  hope

why does it have to be hosted in France, if there are French-language articles discussing the situation in France, on a site run from French Canada? that way, it’s outside the jurisdiction of the French government, and can’t be censored or shut down by them. maybe that’s why you can’t find a comparable site hosted in French territory.

hope
hope
Aug 13, 2020 10:54 AM
Reply to  covidiot

Sorry I didt mean hosted in France, but discussing regularly the situation in France. This is what is hard to find.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 12, 2020 11:29 AM
Reply to  hope

I don’t trust any of the big voices that are speaking out in the UK. Simon Dolan, who runs the Keep Britain Free campaign is a right wing millionaire who lives in Monaco. Freedom for whom?

Zero UK politicians are protesting lockdown. Labour politicians are championing lockdown. A Conservative MP is welcoming the New World Order.

Unions are silent. Socialists are silent. I do not even trust this site.

Every morning is to wake with a jolt of depression and fear. Human compassion is disappearing by the day.

Philippe
Philippe
Aug 12, 2020 11:53 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

I don’t know a lot about Simon Dolan.

However, if he is a millionaire (whether right or left wing) and lives in Monaco, that kind of puts him beyond the reach of the UK govt. In my opinion, this gives him slightly more of a chance than a well-meaning lawyer of modest means (if there is such a thing) based in the UK.

I’m not emotionally invested in him – I’m probably too cynical – but I do wish him well. The more people who annoy the establishment, the better.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 12, 2020 12:04 PM
Reply to  Philippe

The ruling class will always prefer fascism over socialism, and millionaires are more closely aligned with the ruling class.

Simon Dolan’s plans to set up a school that teaches family values and excludes unions, as well as his quoting of Ayn Rand rings alarm bells for me. I remember the 80s when the Tories were going after gay people and single mothers. It was a horrendous era.

At the same time, credit where its due I suppose. If he manages to derail the New World Order, then we should be grateful. However, it seems the New World Order (billionaires) are likely to sacrifice people like Dolan.

It should be the unions who are leading the fight.

Philippe
Philippe
Aug 12, 2020 1:56 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

More than happy to accede to your greater knowledge of the man.

I agree that people like Dolan are just as likely to be sacrificed as the rest of us. Maybe he recognises that too, so his endeavours are selfish. However, if the achievement of his selfish desires benefits everybody else then I say let him have at it. Maybe his modest millions don’t put him in a position of joining the ‘elite’, but they enable him to at least have a crack at the politicians. I suppose you have to pick your battles.

I also agree that the unions should be leading the fight but my personal perception is they were all (or at least the major ones) infiltrated and subverted long ago – controlled opposition, as it were; sometimes not even opposing anything – look at the teaching unions at the moment.

daz
daz
Aug 12, 2020 3:03 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

he’s hired butler-sloss’s nephew as barrister for the appeal.

hope
hope
Aug 12, 2020 3:30 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Don’t you think by not trusting the OffG editors, or sites like uk column, and so on and so forth, not to trust Peter Hitchens or Jeremy Corbyn’s brother is akin to a fear of humans? I dont mean you have to agree with all their views and aims, but they are trustworthy, i.e. they are not working for covert agencies and this comments section is not a place to get the email or IP addresses of their readers to give to whoever. Nor are they trying to deliberately to mislead you by making you focus on one aspect of the question, while obscuring others that they know are important. Humans also make mistakes. Its normal if no one gets it quite right. But if you write to them bringing their attention to important open source well evidenced material, they will have a look at it, and not systematically cast… Read more »

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 5:13 PM
Reply to  hope

Hitchen is a shining light, Piers Corbyn is a useful idiot. Another Icke type to make truthers look mental.

hope
hope
Aug 12, 2020 6:38 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

Indeed, we can all have opinions about them, but they are who they are for better or worse, I mean none are working for dark ulterior motives connected to some covert organization, with the aim of finding out who has those opinions, and undermine dissent.

Frankly if you lived in the country I live in, you’d breathe a sigh of relief to find any equivalent to the two, whatever may be one’s opinions about them.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 13, 2020 9:20 AM
Reply to  hope

Than thank G-d that your mind is free and spread your ideas like a virus…..

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 5:11 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

“Every morning is to wake with a jolt of depression and fear.” – This is true and why you most focus on your local community and making peace with the earth.

Howard
Howard
Aug 12, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  hope

There is no such thing as a group which can be trusted; nor even an individual. All we can do is realize he or she or it has a reason for believing what is believed, however convoluted the reasoning process that led to the belief.

If I like the particular belief, I will thank them and try to respect it; but I will not join them in promoting it. I may choose to promote the belief; but I will work independently. There is no other rational way to approach another’s belief system.

hope
hope
Aug 12, 2020 6:46 PM
Reply to  Howard

Sure, but isolated we can only go so far. Isolating people who have non-mainstream ideas, and in this particular case, isolating those against the narrative, is a long known policy. Only united in at least the common purpose of constructing a world where each of can live according to our wishes, in harmony with others, but not necessarily in friendship and agreement, can we possibly undermine what is going on. At the moment the worst may still be to come, so its best not to be too divisive. To unite we need to trust one other that I am not aiming to undermine your life and you’re not aiming to undermine mine. So that we cannot do so, the virtuality of the internet’s world of pseudonyms has been easily manipulated to create distrust, to infiltrate dissent, control it, etc. In the end only under our real names as real people,… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Aug 13, 2020 3:04 PM
Reply to  hope

I’m a pessimist (i.e., a realist); and as such I accept that what is going to happen will happen no matter what. No force for evil (i.e., power) has ever been stopped in its tracks at the point of its greatest strength. Even though the USA is thankfully on its last leg as the global bully, those “behind the scenes” are fully in charge. There is in reality no difference between one person standing alone and a million standing together. The situation in Belarus is a case in point. After 23 years in power – and after winning another term with 80% of the vote – President Lukashenko is being challenged by a growing “Color Revolution” which sprang up almost out of nowhere. You probably already know Belarus is one of only a few countries which did not impose a lockdown regime. Is it just me or does it seem… Read more »

kevin morris
kevin morris
Aug 12, 2020 10:48 AM

The irony that seems to be lost on most of the left is that censorship leads to the sort of sclerotic society that resulted in the downfall of the Soviet Union, and which will eventually lead to the collapse of the CCP as corruption, inefficiency, brutality and internal contradictions take their inevitable toll.

The west once had the edge and deservedly so, yet to many, China is the new darling. However, it seems to be a question of when, not if, the UK, Europe, China and the US collapse under the weight of their own sleroses.

No wonder Vladimir Putin is usually seen grinning. Having seen off communism, Russia is on the up and up, freed both from Communism and from the crazy woke ideas that Russians clearly have no time for.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Aug 12, 2020 10:37 AM

It does seem that the CCDH are more interested in appropriating public funds in order to ease the introduction of what can only be described as an untested vaccine for a population which is already over this flu virus.
There is some evidence that this ‘DEADLY VIRUS’ had already been and gone before gov’t charlatans began their kneejerking, making lots of money for their favourite corporate friends on the way.

These groups are not left-wing groups but career agitators and gov’t paid useful idiots. They will adopt any political leaning that gets the job done It wouldn’t be so bad if they actually knew what they were talking about, but they hide their shortcomings under reams of dogma and double speak. They care little for the medium if it means plenty dollar.
Vaccine? We don’t need no stinking vaccine!

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 12, 2020 9:14 AM

Comically, they claim they are a non-governmental organisation (NGO). While technically plausible, their network of links to government, globalist think tanks and private corporations is extensive.

I thought that applied to all NGOs i.e. there are plenty of organisations that are not connected to government. But those who specifically have to tell you they are “non-government” are AT IT.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Aug 12, 2020 9:35 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Chuckle, i could hear your intonation…

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 12, 2020 9:05 AM

The CCDH listing at Companies House: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11633127/officers Dr Siobhan Marie Mcandrew is listed as a Director, with profession listed as ‘University Lecturer’. There is a Dr Siobhan Marie McAndrew listed at the University of Bristol: https://research-information.bris.ac.uk/en/persons/siobhan-m-mcandrew She is listed as being a member of the faculty for ‘Sociology, Politics and International Studies’. So a total rank ignoramus where vaccine technology is concerned. She should be excoriated in brutal terms for claiming fact checking capability where no expertise exists. She is a total ignoramus where climate science is concerned, so is totally incapable of any comment on the validity or otherwise of any climate science research, modelling or other nonsense put out by the climate chaos brigade. Secondly, there is a ‘Kirsty Jean McNeil’ listed as a Director of CCDH, profession ‘Charity Executive’. Her LinkedIn resume is at the link below: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstymcneill/?originalSubdomain=uk She is a PPE graduate of Oxford, surprise surprise.… Read more »

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Aug 12, 2020 9:05 AM

Gravitas are now pumping the notion of new Chinese “Seeds of Terror”… sent by mail.
Get the picture? Threatening food supply, drawing attention away from GMO corporations,
That wish to own your mind and every thought.
Just print in English on the packet ” Made in China ” and ask Johnny Wrong to pop them in the post and hey presto… another Pandora Plandemic of global dissinformation.
Treating people like fools is easy, for Corporate spews,
With unlimited budgets for mind control… the
“War on Terror” begins @home, simples,
Do not let terror rule your daily concerns,
Or over your doorstep, without question.
Lock it out, Now, L.I.O.N.
Stop funding Terrorists.
Ignore the News and never pay2play with mind control.
After WTC7, are you completely dumb…?
If so, please wait in line for your vaxpack.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 9:01 AM

Some thoughts on the insanity that has engulfed the world . . . Here is a taster: dogs can sniff out the cronyvirus!

https://coronacircus.com/2020/07/31/peak-circus/

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 12, 2020 9:52 AM
Reply to  Reg

It would appear from the ‘dog sniffing’ article that the intention is to use them at transport hubs, recreational events e.g. concerts and sporting events etc. The implication is that if the dog takes a liking to you you can expect to be treated like a drug trafficker. Presumably the police aren’t going to suggest that you go ahead and enjoy the event you’ve paid to see or the holiday you’re about to embark on. No, it’ll be orders to go straight home and isolate, or end up in the slammer! Yeah, that’s really going to work, isn’t it?

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 12, 2020 2:03 PM
Reply to  Reg

Those people pushing the mask-wearing and face-shield shit totally disgust me.

Aside from the guy taking the piss with his opening-jaw masks, those dogs should be dragged into the midday sun and executed.

Their crimes against people are staggering and need to be avenged.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Aug 12, 2020 7:47 PM
Reply to  Reg

I bet the dogs are far more accurate than the fake test.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 12, 2020 8:47 AM

Based on what CCDH is saying, there can be no question about the following: No member, funder, Director or employee of CCDH has any right to protection under the law if any opinion they ever express brings them into conflict with doctrine. They will be locked up in prison without trial, without access to legal representation and without any release date stated. No person ‘fact checking’ any subject matter concerning matters of medical or scientific research can be allowed any opinion on any matter without at least 10 years of front line experience in bioscientific research. Any transgressor is locked up without trial for 25 years. Any arts graduate working for CCDH is permanently disbarred from ever holding any opinion, ever, about anything technological. They are uneducated, technologically backward cretins. No funding for CCDH can ever come from any pharmaceutical business, any vaccine company, any research institute working in any… Read more »

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Aug 12, 2020 9:53 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

There is a part 2 which does expose the connections of the CCDH CEO and the board of Directors.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 12, 2020 9:57 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Just a little harsh on arts graduates, Rhys. I’ll give you two out of three for your assessment. 😀

JudyJ
B.A (Hons)

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 12, 2020 6:25 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Someone clearly thinks I’m a “cretin” or, preferably, hasn’t got a sense of humour!
😉

Thom
Thom
Aug 12, 2020 8:39 AM

There is a positive side to all the censorship, ‘fact-checking’ and shutting down of comment forums, however – ‘too many’ people are clearly not buying the offiicial narraitve. Another positive is that more people are seeing through sinister organisations like Facebook and Twitter.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 12, 2020 8:32 AM

What are the odds that none of these fascists have ever worked at medical research bench?

crank
crank
Aug 12, 2020 8:28 AM

This article makes some clear points regarding the processes of authoritarian society, but it classifies ‘fascism’ in terms of those processes, whilst largely ignoring the ideological clash between 20th century fascism and totalitarian communism. Old dictionaries would almost all have defined fascism (at least in part) as ‘anti-communism’, and it is well understood that it emerged as a reaction to the Bolshevic revloution and Communist organising accross Europe. Fascism gained support amongst a portion of the population, because they looked East and saw in Bolshevic Russia a society that they didn’t want to live in. Sure, there is more to it than that, but too many Leftist writers cannot admit this historical fact. This article also ignores the fact that Neoliberalism is considered ‘right wing’ by those on the far Left ( as it fundamentally enforces market monopolies through state power for the profit of plutocrats) , but it is… Read more »

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Aug 12, 2020 10:04 AM
Reply to  crank

I take your point. However, this is part 1 of a two part series. In the second part I explore the network of connections which the CEO and board of CCDH represent. It is this specific combination of government and private corporation which I suggest is unique to the brand of totalitarianism called fascism and, as you rightly say, it is private ownership (and capital) which most clearly delineated the fascists from the communists. I draw no moral distinction between to two here. When we look at those connections it will hopefully be clear they all unite under the transatlantic umbrella of progressivism. I understand that the OG intend to republish that article shortly.

crank
crank
Aug 12, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

I look forward to reading that Iain. Still not sure how to really differentiate these totalist systems on those grounds mentioned. The New Economic Policy (NEP) (Russian: новая экономическая политика (НЭП) novaya ekonomicheskaya politika) was an economic policy of the Soviet Union proposed by Vladimir Lenin in 1921 as a temporary expedient. Lenin characterized the NEP in 1922 as an economic system that would include “a free market and capitalism, both subject to state control,” while socialized state enterprises would operate on “a profit basis.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy I am not a close reading student when it comes to the history of the USSR, but I had never heard of this early period of revolutionary soviet russia being one of free market capitalism, until recently. (And this is before we consider the contributions of Anthony Sutton). I am persuaded that if we want to in any way consider a moral distinction between… Read more »

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Aug 12, 2020 7:26 PM
Reply to  crank

There was no revolution in Russia, it was a coup.
There is no need to differentiate. The money and control all went to Jews. And what we have around the world today is the same.

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 12, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  crank

“authoritarian disintegration”……Enacted and enabled by a vast army of public servants which we are all paying for. They exist quite comfortably in their world of guaranteed paid remuneration doing their public “service” secure in the knowledge that the monthly pay cheques will continue to appear no matter what happens to those outwith the confines of guaranteed state provision. It’s a world away from the reality for the millions who work and struggle to keep their heads above water on a daily basis and who now face a bleak and very uncertain future regarding their worth in this dystopian nightmare. I would like to see all public employees involved politically in this scam, especially government ministers and their health “experts”, be subjected to an immediate 50% wage cut to show solidarity with the many who will suffer hardship at this time for “although we may be separated we are still together”,… Read more »

paul
paul
Aug 12, 2020 7:56 AM

Posted on another thread, but it also fits in here. A group is preparing a legal challenge to the coronavirus act based on the assertion that the virus has not been proved to exist. The details are here – I think its worth a look : https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/the-coronavirus-act-2020

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 12, 2020 10:27 AM
Reply to  paul

I was interested to see that the campaign group had received no response from the UK Government to the request to provide evidence of the existence of SARS CoV2. This is clearly the standard M.O. for the UK Government when they are pushed into a corner. I wrote to them three times last year to ask for the legal basis for the detention of the Iranian vessel Grace 1 on its way to Syria. I never received a reply or even an acknowledgement. There was only one conclusion to draw from that.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 5:18 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

The conclusion is you are not worthy of a response. Not my view of you, just their view.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 12, 2020 6:03 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

Indeed. Time after time they show complete disdain for the very people they would claim to represent.

Paul
Paul
Aug 12, 2020 9:55 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

There is no evidence anywhere that there is a new virus called Sars Cov2.
Covid19 is the new pneumonia that people may develop if they have SARS-CoV 2.

How exactly are they diagnosing the pneumonia?
Well no one knows.
What exactly is this new pneumonia?
Deaths are being recorded as having Covid19 pneumonia based on a dodgy test alleging someone as having the virus.
It’s completely different.

The only data that really matters is how many people died after being diagnosed with the pneumonia.
That data doesn’t exist.

The scam is in how they word everything.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 7:43 AM
Caltrop
Caltrop
Aug 12, 2020 7:32 AM

WHO Director Tedros Adhanom – Gay, Red Terrorist Heads Global Lockdown

(Video- Tedros trying to score at his local gay bar/gym)

Tedros Adhanom is an Ethiopian biologist, public health researcher, and official who has served since 2017 as Director-General of the World Health Organization. A non-physician implicated in genocide; he is just the person to oversee the destruction of civilization. 

https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/08/tedros-gay-red-terrorist.html

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 12, 2020 9:27 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

The Nazis went after gay people too. See the monument in Amsterdam in memory of those LGBT folk who were sent to Nazi death camps.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 12, 2020 1:54 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Nazis were a front for corporations while presenting themselves as a workers’ party.

The pink swastika element is interesting but a sub plot. Homosexuals were heavily represented in the Nazi party from the beginning – and there’s much written about Hitler’s own sexuality. The famous book burning photograph was taken outside a psychologiists’ sex therapy clinic that many of the Nazi leadership were said to have attended. The burned books were their records.

The Night of Long Knives coincided with Anti-Jewish Laws in June/July 1934. It seems that a decision was taken to purge the party or institute scapegoats – both Jews and homosexuals – at the same time.

Tutisicecream
Tutisicecream
Aug 12, 2020 6:28 AM

Excellent article and focuses clearly on the level and the length of the Deep States’ propaganda exploits. I had to smile when Russia announced the other day the Sputnik V vaccine, as it appears Gates and his Gang have been countered by Putin and at the same time routed. I’m not talking about the production of a vaccine, as that is another argument, but the propaganda game itself. As Iain rightly sates: “While the CCDH blithely claim all vaccines are “safe,” they are the only medical discovery where the manufacturers have blanket indemnification against any loss from injury claims. It is not an act of “hate” to ask why this needs to be the case if they are so safe.” The core of the argument is, as is stated on his website: “If profit is a determining factor for vaccine availability, then clearly we are looking at a business enterprise, not a public health program.” So… Read more »

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 7:00 AM
Reply to  Tutisicecream

At this point they don’t give a fuck what you or I think. It truly is an Orwellian world. They can contradict themselves from one day to the next and still believe both points of view. Or, what seems more likely to me, they are aware of their bullshittery but their job is to force us to swallow it because these people serve some really hellish masters.

Simon
Simon
Aug 12, 2020 11:01 AM
Reply to  Tutisicecream

I suppose if people still got the flu despite there being vaccines for both cold and flus it would make it pretty obvious. They could of knocked a corona vaxx up years ago otherwise. It is a simple process:

martin
martin
Aug 14, 2020 8:13 AM
Reply to  Simon

Thank you Simon for posting the video. I am now reading her book ‘Fear of the Invisible’ which has in it the items she relates with such marvelous humour and disgust. So clearly written, understandable to someone new to the field.

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Aug 12, 2020 5:39 PM
Reply to  Tutisicecream

Not having read earlier comments, I made a sentence-long one to this effect above. Now I see this superior posting making the same point. Thank you.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 6:15 AM

Why wouldn’t you become an anti-vaxxer if this thing was coming at you . . .

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Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Aug 12, 2020 9:41 AM
Reply to  Reg

Upside down cross sums it up, everything Christ stood for turned on its head.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 5:15 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

It’s deliberate. They know exactly what they are and they rub it in our faces and dare us to do anything about it.

Objective
Objective
Aug 12, 2020 5:25 AM

We’re fooked, there’s no political opposition to this & violent unrest is a simple gift to the state & its thugs. Somehow pleading with your torturer to stop with protest marches & petitions aint gonna get it done & the alt media is slowly but effectively being shutdown. So how do you push back on a system that’s been preparing for this for decades, until we wake up & accept democracy is a failed experiment, a lightly veiled tyranny, “fascism” that relies on force, where centralized government only works through fear, threat & violence. Its only sanctions against the unwilling, is theft through fines, incarceration in a cage upon conviction, or brutal violence where the state has asserted its right to lawfully kill dissenters where we have been forbidden to defend ourselves and face all of above if we try. I repeat again to those academic pigeon holer’s who think… Read more »

Caltrop
Caltrop
Aug 12, 2020 3:55 AM

Baal worship rules – “Trump Heroically Defies a Lawless Supreme Court” “Normally, presidents of both parties rush to raise their arms in surrender whenever the black-robed life-tenured politicians on the high court demand it.” https://richardsonpost.com/matthew-vadum/18000/young-illegals-an-abomination/ The Chemarims or Khamarim are the black -robed priests of Baal , who were appointed by the kings of Judah to conduct worship In high places . Chemarims ”Idolatrous Priest” , comes from the root word Kamar meaning “to be black” and explains the ” idolatrous priest ” wore black garments in Zephaniah 1:4. This is what judges, priests, rabbis and Cohen’s wear today .. In the “Wizard of Oz” the “Wicked Witch of the West” was dressed in black, the color that symbolizes the pagan Babylonian king NIMROD, alias SATURN [The original name of Rome itself was Saturnia]. Black is a sacred icon of The Knights Templar, and interestingly the “color of choice” for the robes… Read more »

ame
ame
Aug 12, 2020 9:46 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

From the depths of the Swamp emerges Donald Trump urging re-erection of the toppled statue of #Albertpike Supreme Commander of the Scottish Rite of Masonic Satanists.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Aug 12, 2020 10:31 AM
Reply to  ame

MAGA

Hebrew is read from right to left

Strong’s Hebrew Concordance 98

agam: a marsh, muddy pool

Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: agam
Phonetic Spelling: (ag-am’)
Definition: a marsh, muddy pool

TRUMP IS THE SWAMP / Trump’s Jewish Elite MAFIA & The 5 Dancing Israelis

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x673c6t

http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php/video-resources/87-the-media/1806-trump-is-the-swamp-trump-s-jewish-elite-mafia-and-the-5-dancing-israelis-2017

https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2018/05/16/why-trump-is-a-rothschild-tool/

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-in-donald-trump-administration

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 3:37 AM

Looks like the last shreds of civilization are going fast.
I wonder how long the next Dark Ages will last…

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 6:16 AM
Reply to  wardropper

They’ve planned for at least a thousand years

Tousel
Tousel
Aug 12, 2020 9:38 AM
Reply to  Reg

nobody plans a dark age, it is a falure of all, even the evil.

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 3:33 AM

“The Center for Countering Digital Hate is a not-for-profit non governmental
organisation (NGO) that is funded by philanthropic trusts . . .”

They don’t tell us who these trusts are . . .

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 12, 2020 5:25 AM
Reply to  Reg

Probably funded by the George G Gibberish and Anthony T Drivel Newspeak Foundation

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 5:59 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

And the Gates of Hell Foundation . . .

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Aug 12, 2020 10:08 AM
Reply to  Reg

Quite.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Aug 12, 2020 9:32 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

In heaven, there are no Bills 😉

Reg
Reg
Aug 12, 2020 3:28 AM

Montreal people say “fuck you” to jumped-up little commissars . . .

https://www.anti-empire.com/thousands-march-in-montreal-against-involuntary-mask-wearing/

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 3:34 AM
Reply to  Reg

A fair number of people say that all over the world. But the “authorities” are not listening.
We’ll have to insist, I fear.
And that won’t be pretty.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 12, 2020 5:41 AM
Reply to  wardropper

“This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

~ Frederick Douglas, 1857  

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
Aug 12, 2020 7:51 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 12, 2020 2:27 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Neither should it be. What they’re doing ain’t exactly attractive…

Methinks that pushback is expected and also prepared for, with all the “security” forces onside.

So, no, it won’t be pretty. But if sufficient pissed-off citizens involve themselves, it just might work, as the cops and defence force personnel prefer to be on the winning side.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

However, the cops, plus their wonderful new crowd-control weapons, probably carry a hundred times more weight per man than an ordinary person in an outright confrontation. That knowledge will make them feel invulnerable to us.
So, roughly speaking, 10,000 of us march on Whitehall, or the Capitol building, or whatever, and it only takes 100 police to stop us…
Actually, that has clarified pretty well in my own mind the scale of the opposition we face if we are to rescue a sane society from the ashes of this mad one.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 12, 2020 3:08 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Yes, I understand. However, I’m unsure that the imbalance of power would prove to be as dramatic as you state, wardropper.

Peaceful marching will accomplish nothing.

But pissed-off people do not march peacefully.

I believe it’s the only hope.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 3:20 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

I fear you may be right.
The “Occupy” movement had the right idea – not merely to peace-march, but to sit there and refuse to move until somebody with authority listens. But we have seen how easily the media undermine that sort of thing…
All they have to do is an interview with the fat, jolly, green-haired lady, or the dangerous looking punk, and the movement is written off – finished. The other thing the media do is to show up an hour before an advertised protest meeting, or an hour after everyone has gone home, and take lots of photos of nobody there. It’s obvious, but it seems to work.
Pissed-off people marching on the media would undoubtedly be the best first step, demanding the reinstatement of the real journalists who either resigned in frustration, or were sacked for telling the truth.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 12, 2020 3:27 PM
Reply to  wardropper

“Not every item of news should be published. Rather must those who control news policies endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose.” ~ Joseph Goebbels

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 3:37 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

Yes. That’s where we are today. Thank you Joseph.
(Not that any of that was his invention… It’s all as old as wickedness itself)

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 12, 2020 3:41 PM
Reply to  wardropper

The baseline for human behaviour is instinct.

The baseline for instinct is the need to survive.

It is the second baseline which is being exploited.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 4:20 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

My own feeling is that both baselines have shifted since 100,000 years ago.
Mere survival no longer seems convincing as a “meaning of life”, although of course not much else can happen if you don’t survive…
Still, as Jordan Peterson said, everybody today wants “meaning” in their lives. One might as well be dead otherwise, and the ghouls who control practically everything today are, essentially, dead.

Antonym
Antonym
Aug 12, 2020 3:00 AM

There is middle ground: if herd immunity for Covid-19 is taken on say 65%, that leaves 35% for people who do not want to be vaccinated with upcoming rushed experimental stuff.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 3:36 AM
Reply to  Antonym

But the “authorities” don’t want middle ground.
They want total control.

Antonym
Antonym
Aug 12, 2020 7:01 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Those who go for that will lose the next elections or will face stiff resistance.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Aug 12, 2020 10:12 AM
Reply to  Antonym

If there are any.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 12, 2020 1:29 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Sure, but if they obey their paymasters, they’ll get phat jobs in the private sector, even if they’re voted out.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 12, 2020 2:32 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Those pricks don’t concern themselves with the outcomes of elections.

Elections are easily rigged before, on and after “voting” day

“If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”
~ Mark Twain…

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 12, 2020 2:34 PM
Reply to  Antonym

I’m not so sure. People are already begging to be allowed to become robotic slaves. Just look at the choices of “leader” on offer in all significant western societies…
If Big Brother himself were to appear in Washington tomorrow and tell people they would be under threat from Martians unless they voted for him, he would get millions of votes for sure – and if he didn’t, he would manipulate the voting centres so that it looked as if he had got millions of votes.
Does anybody seriously think we still live in times where a good person with real authority to change the existing system becomes president, or prime minister?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 12, 2020 8:23 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Total control… with your very own health immunity passport, biometric id and a social credit system to keep you in line, plus a few other things on top of that.

Philippe
Philippe
Aug 12, 2020 10:18 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Can’t remember where (possibly on this site a while ago) that general T-Cell immunity, gained from any exposure to any coronavirus ever (eg common cold), means that herd immunity may well not sit at 65%, but be closer to 15-17%.

That is to say, if 15-17% of people get the ‘virus’ (or whatever it may be) and get over it, that will be enough, once added to the majority who already have T-Cell immunity, to achieve herd immunity.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 12, 2020 2:33 AM

Excellent and very meaty article again Iain. “We are heading towards a real Fascist State”… Here in Melbourne, Australia, its already arrived. The media here, who are nothing but psychological terrorists, and presstitutes for the 0.01% – they have whipped up such irrational fear, and have been demonising any person, or group; not fully in lockstep with the draconian lockdowns and curfews as anti vaxxers, virus deniers and conspiracy nuts. Those people who are speaking out about what is happening here and questioning the narrative. And I’ll repeat again, the large majority are clearly going along with all this. And gleefully applauding the tactics of the thugs in uniform. If you are actually here in Melbourne, or even Australia, prove me wrong. It’s also interesting to note, that the (genuine) alternative media who have raised serious concerns about the whole covid narrative have been the ones heavily targeted by the… Read more »

Ergo
Ergo
Aug 12, 2020 3:30 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Gezzah, Just wondering.

Could the people of Melbourne and possibly wider Victoria have a morbid fear of China, believing the corporate media’s report that a killer virus erupted from bats in Wuhan, and how Daniel Andrews has been cozying up to China’s belt and road initiative (much questioned by the federal government), be preparing themselves for a new China?

This of course is all conjecture as I have been picking up bits here and there with very little to go on!
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australia

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 12, 2020 3:58 AM
Reply to  Ergo

I saw an article about Andrews signing Victoria up to the Belt & Road on my newsfeed a couple of days ago. Will try and find it for you.
But no, I believe all this irrational fear exhibited by people is much more primal than a fear of China.
It’s about people’s fear of death, its about their own mortality. I reckon that’s what’s driving so many to go along with this new normal charade.
They want to keep themselves… ‘safe’.
And not die. Just yet.

Ergo
Ergo
Aug 12, 2020 5:27 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

S’cuse all my comments…
It is primal that’s a good word.
I fear that I am trolling 🙄

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 12, 2020 5:46 AM
Reply to  Ergo

Ergo, I’m in lockdown, it’s not like I have loads of things to do – in fact going on my back porch for a smoke is almost a highlight… I don’t mind.
But I’m certain that’s the main reason – people’s fear of death, of their own mortality, and the filth media have really played on this with all their relentless fear mongering.

Ergo
Ergo
Aug 12, 2020 6:38 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

It’s affecting the whole nation because here in SA people are creeping around terrified that the killer lurgy will fly over the border and infect us!

I’m so over it all..

Have to take into account the odd few who have bought masks…”just in case”….”only a matter of time”

I feel like emigrating to Antarctica!

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 12, 2020 2:50 PM
Reply to  Ergo

Mate, I’d offer you refuge in WA but the border’s closed.

Anyone who can’t see through this bullshit probably deserves to catch the fucking thing.

No symptoms to a mild cold should teach them a lesson…