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Three New Reads – August

Philip Roddis

There’s been more than one reason for my long silence on CV-19, so readers might forgive me – if they forgive me on nothing else – for so long an introduction to my first read of the month, by the Oxford theoretical epidemiologist, Sunetra Gupta.

My second read’s a characteristically close argued piece by Craig Murray on the transparency – in and of itself worrying – of the UK government’s attempts to silence “Russia trolls”. Yes, we know who they are by their use of the dog-whistle term, cui bono?

Finally, for the second time in less than a week, I’m offering in all seriousness a piece on China by that crypto-marxist outlet, the Economist. Try as it might, it can’t quite conceal its grudging respect for Mr Xi’s China!

*

We may already have herd immunity – interview with Sunetra Gupta (4426 words)

I’ve been having a hard time over Covid-19. It’s not that I lost a dear friend to it in May. It’s more that, while I’m open to the views of some sceptics – Kit Knightly at OffGuardian, Profs Bakhdi and Wittkowski, Prof Piers Robinson and the Swiss Propaganda Group – my refusal to commit on a matter I don’t know enough about enrages or disappoints even some of my friends.

I’ve spoken of a religiosity of tone in many who challenge the idea that CV-19 is as serious as claimed. They may be right, though epidemiologists have been telling us since SARS 2003 that a global pandemic is a matter of when not if. (See Mike Davis, Planet of Slums author and one of my three April reads.)

Is this the big one we’ve been promised for the best part of two decades?

I don’t know, though I suspect not. But my agnosticism angers some. Which begs the question, what are they doing? It’s clear what those named in my opening paragraph are doing. They are tireless in alerting us to their view that we’re sleepwalking into ever more dangerous losses of liberty, or at the very least have bought into a suboptimal response to a threat overstated.

Like Professors Bhakdi (his open letter to Chancellor Merkel ignored by mainstream media) and Wittkowski (censored by Youtube) Professor Sunetra Gupta, my first read, insists that even on clinical, let alone socioeconomic grounds, wholesale lockdown is not the way to go.

But my experience is that those who apply Believes/Does Not Believe ‘the official narrative’ on CV-19 as the acid test of a person’s right to be heard on pretty much any subject are zealots. Yes, this is a moral judgment. And unlike those named earlier, most do nothing. No, this is not a moral judgment.

My point – I paid top dollar for this insight from a flawed but brilliant spiritual teacher – is that the importance of the internal babble we call thought is more overegged than even the most draconian of claims by the CV-19 ‘official narrative’. How could it possibly matter a bean what a person believes, if no practical consequences follow?

It’s the same with 9/11. There’s a hard core of ‘truthers’ for whom a person who Gets This Wrong need not be listened to on any political matter. Not only is this an absurd piece of reductivism.* Again the question is begged: what does it matter what we believe unless belief informs praxis?

We can’t all be writers or epidemiologists. But we can all apply our energies and organisational skills to advance causes we hold dear. If we mean business, why would we confine ourselves to sneering at the saps who’ve been taken in? It might make us feel good about ourselves, but it’s lousy salesmanship.

I take the questions arising from CV-19 and governmental responses seriously, but less so than the war fever on China (too similar in its drivers and implications to that on Russia for either to be viewed in isolation from the other).

Even on its own terms I don’t see the question – is CV-19 truly as bad as they say? – as the most important. That honour goes to one more pressing, more practical, and in principle capable of uniting sceptics, agnostics and believers.  Who will decide the terms on which lockdown ends and how will we resist our rulers’ inevitable attempts to saddle us, as they did after 2008, with the bill for its immense economic consequences?

But back to Sunetra Gupta. Call me a dirty lowdown agnostic, but might my promoting her here be an act almost as useful as sneering at the deluded?

*

The Russian Interference Report, Without Laughing (5233 words)

…the UK was asking its paid propagandists what they thought of Russian propagandists. Every one of the witnesses makes their living from postulating the Russian threat. They said the Russian threat is very big indeed.

…the Intelligence and Security Committee Report on Russia is so flawed it is tempting to mock it.

But it calls expressly and repeatedly for the security services to be actively involved in “policing the democratic space” and castigates the security services for their unwillingness to interfere in democratic process.

It calls for tough government action against social media who refuse to censor and remove material it believes inspired by foreign states.

It accepts Integrity Initiative’s Christopher Donnelly and Ben Nimmo as good identifiers of material which should be banned – though Nimmo stated that use of the phrase “Cui bono” is indicative of a Russian troll

…It remains the most important single fact in British politics that, despite the fact almost everybody now acknowledges it was a disaster, nobody ever lost their job for supporting the Iraq war. Quite a few lost their job for opposing it, Greg Dyke, Carne Ross, Elizabeth Wilmshurst and Piers Morgan among them. It is a simple matter of fact that the Iraq War’s biggest cheerleaders dominate the London political and media landscape, whereas there is no critic of the Iraq War in an important position of power.

As the drive towards war on Russia (and more immediately China) continues apace – see my recent post, Our beautifully democratic wars – former UK Ambassador Craig Murray applies his forensic skills to the risible notion that “Russia, rather than deep disaffection of the less privileged classes, ’caused’ Trump, Brexit and even support for Scottish Independence.” 

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Xi Jinping is trying to remake the Chinese economy (3529 words)

Mr Xi is not simply inflating the state at the expense of the private sector. Rather, he is presiding over what he hopes will be the creation of a more muscular form of state capitalism. The idea is for state-owned companies to get more market discipline and private enterprises to get more party discipline, the better to achieve China’s great collective mission. It is a project full of internal contradictions. But progress is already evident in some areas.

As in my post earlier in the week on Huawei, I’m again recommending a China piece from the Economist. The well read red keeps tabs on that organ, whose mood music carries truths liberal media daren’t deliver.

Not that this fascinating read, replete with every prejudice in the Economist book – above all private profit good; state control baad – reveals any deep state secrets, or highlights fissures within Western ruling classes on matters China.

It’s a good read simply because its look at China’s economy, under Xi’s stewardship, is not only more detailed than anything you’ll get in more general media. It is also, for all its obligatory deprecations, shot through with what looks suspiciously like grudging respect.

*Jan Oberg – Syria blogger who actually makes frequent trips there, splendid writer and photographer, and one of the few pacifists I truly have time for – has been attacked for not “speaking out” on 9/11 as an inside job. His response? “I blog only about things I know with certainty.” With you all the way, Jan.< a href=”#i”>^

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S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 31, 2020 4:25 PM

Reading this makes one sad. It is like reading an excerpt from the daily journal of “a nowhere man.” So sad.

By any chance is he paying homage to Gogol or Dostoyevsky? Or is it Goncharov’s Oblomov.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 31, 2020 7:06 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Isn”t he a bit like you and me?

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 31, 2020 7:55 PM
Reply to  George Mc

In some ways perhaps …though I do have a point of view, which has cost me.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 31, 2020 9:00 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Also I am sans face diaper/nappy and I fight corporate fascist psychopaths, not grovel down before them and tongue wash the heels of their blood stained jackboots.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 31, 2020 8:43 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

It’s a fence-sitting article.
I reckon the time for that is over.

charles kint
charles kint
Aug 31, 2020 6:31 AM

War talk again! Remember when the wall came down, glasnost , cold war OVER We all hoped for a peace bonus, how short lived was that! the western experiment in the former ussr was a disaster for the general population there People sold their state bonds just to get food on the table , profiteers were more then willing to buy them up at fire sale prices hence oligarchs Few years later western coupe d’etat in the Ukraine Crimea very unhappy with the new leadership in their country, held a referendum ( observed by the west ) 87% turned up , 97 % of them wanted to join Russia so Putin accepted no resistence what so ever , yet the “democratic” nations in the west were very upset ( brexit only had very narrow victory no such scenes ) , a war followed, Russia had many interests in the Ukraine… Read more »

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Aug 31, 2020 10:43 AM
Reply to  charles kint

Of the 2 greatest communist dictatorships in history, the bloodiest and most tyrannical may be communist China, where an estimated 60m people were murdered or starved by their own government. By contrast, the USSR only caused the deaths of around 30m of its own citizens. Those who care about human rights should know very well how the communist horror in China remains undefeated, as 3m Uigyurs, Tibetans and other undesirable people now in the CCP’s many hundreds of concentration camps can attest. I wonder if the Ecommunist report mentions their plight: they fear enforced sterilisation, gang rape, torture, murder, and organ harvesting, all sanctioned by the regime of Emperor Xi. And the CCP is building many more camps, as the Indie reports. Of course, many posters here seem very unaware of this history, or that it’s peanuts or western propaganda when compared to the horror inflicted on the world by… Read more »

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Aug 31, 2020 11:02 AM

And the USA have slaughtered about 30 million of other nations citizens

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 31, 2020 11:13 AM

That’s right Lefty Left – keep up the estimated estimates of estimable billions so the US can have what it has always needed: the justification of liberating millions from their estimated slavery by killing them.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 31, 2020 1:45 PM

Some ‘historians’ with an obsessive hatred of anything ‘Left’ prefer to ignore how millions of Soviets gave their lives fighting against the Nazis. We owe the Soviet Union a debt of gratitude. We might all be speaking German now if it wasn’t for their sacrifice.

Funny how the United States helped Nazi war criminals escape to New lives in America and South America after the war.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 31, 2020 7:09 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Careful now, you’re starting to sound “anti-American”!

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Aug 31, 2020 9:24 PM

Yes – with the exception of the Uigyurs which is very contestable – no honest person could or would dispute these figures, including me. However the figures of those states targeted by the west in the last few centuries sort of evens things. Western imperialism is every bit as barbaric as has been around a lot longer than communism. Did you know for example that when the British put down the Indian Mutiny in 1857 up to 800,000 Indians died as a result of this action and the induced famine that followed. Moving on to the twentieth and 21st century how about the US record, in Indo-China, Korea, Japan, Latin America, the middle-east. How about Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright. You know the one who said that the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children died because of US santions, was ‘Worth it.’ What about the drone assassination programme carried out under Obama? Whoops there… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 31, 2020 5:21 AM

The Pilgrim Society deserves more than a cameo role in all this. An Anglo-American Establishment society formed in 1902, the patron of the society is Queen Elizabeth II. Meriting only 600 words on Wikipedia, we are expected to believe it is just a supper club for incoming U.S. ambassadors. Playing host to names like Rockefeller, Mellon, Luce, Rothschild, Cecil, Windsor, and their servants such as Kissinger – and merging with the William J. Donovan Foundation, founder of the OSS and CIA – it’s probably more than a leg of the rubber chicken circuit. If any individuals have been at the hub of the alliance with the fascists before, during and after WW2, it is the people you find as members of the Pilgrim Society. Averell Harriman, Hitler’s banker, was promoted to the Marshall Plan in which position he could dole out contracts to rebuild the Europe he had just destroyed.… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 31, 2020 6:30 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The dude in the shades is Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Grey of Fallodon, who was one of the architects of WW1. His well-dressed buddies are, one may assume, the people who profited from WW1. In 1914 Grey asked future U.S. president Herbert Hoover if he might borrow his motor-car for a Sunday afternoon drive. “A clear picture begins to emerge of Herbert Hoover’s connections with the hidden power controlling British and American politics. He had assisted Alfred Milner in South Africa. He held shares in the Rothschilds’ Rio Tinto Company… He had aided the South African mining millionaires Abe Bailey and Alfred Beit; all of whom operated at the innermost core of the Secret Elite… “Matters would have been so different if oil had been blockaded from the Central Powers from 1914. The senior executives of all the great oil monopolies, trusts and merchant banks were close to their governments… Read more »

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Aug 31, 2020 11:19 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Those parties most involved in engineering fear, lockdown and other official responses to covid19 appear to be the US pharma giant Gilead (maker of next-to-useless Remdesivir, funder of fraudulent research against HCQ in the Lancet and elsewhere) and of course infamous ‘philanthropist’ Bill Gates, best friends with Emperor Xi, main funder of the WHO, a funder of the Guardian and reportedly many government advisors, among other interests. I can see these and many other globalists like ex-Nazi George Soros and their puppet institutions and NGOs manipulating governments against the voters’ interests, but not the reverse. Can anyone imagine Boris controlling Gates?! Ho ho. The question is, are Gates and other great supporters of globalism, like the EU and U.N., motivated by their desire to maintain the evil ‘primacy of British domination’, I wonder?

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 31, 2020 9:27 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

As I have been saying follow the MONEY. Now drag your history back a bit further – to the Waterloo cover story. How did Wellesley become a key front man from being a obscure runt of his family? The foundation’s on myth of the Rothschild fortune. Same with Rhodes? Another runt psychopath who suddenly had the world at his feet as a barely out of his teens. The bankers going back to the BoE, the setting up of Nation States with the Westphalian Treaty. Go forward to the scam of the East India Companies and the scam of the ‘contract’ of the Balfour declaration that ties the potus and the creation of the Fed with WW1 and the mincing of the young men of Europe who were a threat by demanding freedoms and security. The great aim of WW1 was not Germany- it was and is still that unattained one… Read more »

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Aug 31, 2020 11:24 AM
Reply to  DunGroanin

Should we fear nation states more than empires, communist dictatorships and Islamist terror states, would you say? Also, why should we trust international courts, as you do? Is it because national democracy with leaders chosen or rejected by the dumb herd is so awful?

richard
richard
Aug 31, 2020 4:13 PM

Yes, it’s the ability to reject our leaders at the next election which is the source of democracy – fiddled elections notwithstanding.
I understood that no parliament could tie the hands of future parliaments ie that all laws are up for reassessment and yet we have them signing up to UN agendas 21 and 30 and without a bye your leave to the people.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 31, 2020 10:15 PM
Reply to  richard

We are signed upto many secret treaty without parliamentary debate and vote through the ages.

That is the ancient system that needs breaking into a million pieces.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 31, 2020 10:13 PM

There were no nation states until invented by the treaty of Westphalia.

England wasn’t one of them! Being a backward bunch of kindoms.

International Law applied equally without exception to ALL the people’s of the world is the only rational, sane, fair system.

No indispensable countries. No special privileges. No superiority.

john
john
Aug 31, 2020 4:54 AM

Freudian slip of the year.

When the New Zealand economy was opened up Geoff Bascand of the New Zealand Reserve Bank stated on New Zealand Television:

And then there’s this sort of hope and expectation that the world will open up and we’ll see economies improve AND NOT BE AS BAD AS WE WANTED.

http://www.preearth.net/videos/nz-reserve-bank-says-things-not-as-bad-as-we-wanted.mp4

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 31, 2020 3:39 AM

The bankers are waging a Holocaust against us. That’s no exaggeration, says Prof Michel Chossudovsky. The act of closing the global economy is an act of genocide. It is a war by finance capitalism on real businesses, traders and farmers. The bankers have destroyed small and mid-sized enterprises and the big players will consolidate and buy up their assets for nothing. Shutting down an economy is an absolute disaster. The idea that you are doing this to protect public heath is a lie. it is unprecedented in world history. It is destroying the lives of millions of people and it is not spontaneous, nor is it due to the virus. Orders were given through the WHO, UN and WEF to flat-line the economies of 196 countries. Now you are about to be asked to bail out the government – with higher taxes and a raid on pensions and savings The… Read more »

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Aug 31, 2020 11:54 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

That video begins with the notorious anti-Semitic mural praised by Jeremy Corbyn, which stereotypes and demonises greedy Jewish bankers in a manner shockingly similar to what happened in Nazi Germany.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 31, 2020 1:56 PM

I’ve tried, several times to flag some of the vile antisemitic comments I’ve seen here, but admin is disinterested.

You, however, find an opportunity to bash Corbyn, and use it.

gordan
gordan
Sep 1, 2020 12:36 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

how can anti khazar ani ashkanazim be anti semetick?

you are not semite old chum just 13th tribe pirate

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 31, 2020 8:37 PM

Frankly, not so many of the people in that mural look particularly Jewish, and none of the bank managers I have spoken with in recent decades has looked Jewish either.
Of course what goes on behind the scenes is a different matter, but to me the picture shows what bankers, Jewish or not, are doing to our world.
They and the media are public enemies Nos. 1 and 2.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 1, 2020 12:18 AM

There’s nothing anti Semitic about this image. It’s a reflection of reality. Only insane people can’t deal with reality.

Antonym
Antonym
Aug 31, 2020 3:10 AM

The intolerance BTL for different views as above is on par with Iran and Saudi Arabia in 2020, Russia in 1935, China from 1950 onwards etc. Anybody with a different view is being attacked: no different from the actions of the five eyes’ $ 0.50 cents troops in Ukraine, California etc.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 31, 2020 11:15 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Well no-one’s attacked you yet – apart from the down-votes which won’t hurt you.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 31, 2020 8:41 PM
Reply to  Antonym

This is just not true.
I have myself sometimes written comments with which others have disagreed entirely, but I have never felt “attacked” here, except from one or two trolls who are well-known – and well-ignored. This isn’t a site for people who want to attack others, and, for the record, disagreement is not an attack.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Aug 31, 2020 2:52 AM

The reason people go on about Russia and China is the same group that spin the covid lie also like to war monger, set nation against nation its profitable for them. So people are nationalized like fools they believe that even with a political and economic monopoly they “choose” and have a democracy .
Us v them the hallmark of an out of date despot.Racism, nationalism any ism that divides works for them but not for humanity.https://notpublicaddress.wordpress.com/2020/08/27/stop-testing-and-youll-stop-covid/

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Aug 31, 2020 12:15 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

Nationalism unites a nation, racism divides it. US Democrats and leftists always say America is a racist nation, they never say ‘America First’. Their divide and rule tactics are transparent; they do not aim to represent or defend all Americans, only those they don’t call racist (ie Democrat voters). In fact, leftists everywhere turn American against American, Briton against Briton, Venezuelan against Venezuelan, and so on forever. But US Democrats never say racist to their billionaire globalist friends, corporations and bankers, who pretend to care about ‘humanity’ and ‘our global future’ while screwing mere nations for the power and wealth created by their dumb peoples. By contrast, Trump offers national unity and love of the entire nation as the cure to racism and hate: “When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice”, and “We all bleed the same blood of patriots”(inaugural speech). But Democrats hate… Read more »

richard
richard
Aug 31, 2020 4:25 PM

I think I understood your comment.
You say, I think quite rightly, that the average American is not racist – really that racism doesn’t exist – but that the democrats etc. use it as a device to cause division.
Then however, you go on to say that Trump offers “a cure to racism and hate”.
Oops, you lost me…

BDBinc
BDBinc
Aug 31, 2020 6:53 PM
Reply to  richard

This was not to Richard its to left the lefty. You lost me at democrats . The so called different parties with allegedly different ideology so that people could identify with it were invented to rope people into voting.Giving their willing and keen consent to be governed. With the economic and political monopoly we have( and note ” no matter who you vote for the govt always gets in” GC) most get tricked by the insane us v them winning narrative of the media circus perpetuating the the democracy dogma. Presidents and PMs get appointed by the banking cabal that fund it leaving the taxpayers on the hook.What a scam it is what a ponzi scheme. Nationalizing is a tool of those controlling for wars, divide and conquer. You are part of the universe and the earth , a human Being not a nation/political party( concept) .But if you see… Read more »

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 31, 2020 2:37 AM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.comCDC: US Total Covid Deaths Numbers Dramatically Wrong- 153,504 Reduced To 9,210/ Lockdown Protests Worldwide/ Catholics Sue WHO For Human Rights Abuses/ Draconian Hawaii Highway Lockdown

sorry for the double post – messed up my link

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 31, 2020 2:39 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com
ok that’s correct finally

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 31, 2020 2:37 AM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.comBREAKING CDC: US Total Covid Deaths Numbers Dramatically Wrong- 153,504 Reduced To 9,210/ Lockdown Protests Worldwide/ Catholics Sue WHO For Human Rights Abuses/ Draconian Hawaii Highway Lockdown

The CDC Story Could Really Be a Gamechanger Folks! j

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Aug 31, 2020 12:27 PM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Twitter is reportedly banning both Gateway Pundit and Trump from retweeting this official news release from the CDC site. I tell you, that Trump is the worst ever tyrant. Imagine a president being censored by his nation’s own social media. What a weakling.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Aug 31, 2020 1:20 AM

As a Californian I think the last word on “China” comes in the form of rail transport. Our state has been struggling to build a high speed rail line, initially from Los Angeles to San Franciso, a process that’s taken many years and absorbed mind-boggling amounts of money. (UK readers will have their own version of this called “HS2”.) While we’ve been dithering around not building much the Chinese have build 7500 route miles of high speed rail, a complete system. They’re able to build the actual trains as well (we don’t have the infrastructure to do this, its pretty much the same in the UK.) So, you can go on about Xi, CCP or whatever but it doesn’t alter the facts on the ground — while we screw around filing endless lawsuits and writing scads of articles telling us that we really don’t need all this new fangled stuff… Read more »

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Aug 31, 2020 2:04 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

One of your best posts here.

I have been buying stuff direct from China, for the last 20 years, and still am.

Buying stuff from The USA, which I have occasionally done, is a nightmare.

O.K. – some of your kit is O.K., but by the time it arrives, we have already got the Chinese stuff up and working in England

Check out Linn Dinh. Even he gave up on the USA and went back home to Vietnam.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Postcards-End-America-Linh-Dinh/dp/1609806530

Tony

john
john
Aug 31, 2020 2:29 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

“While we’ve been dithering around not building much the Chinese have build 7500 route miles of high speed rail, a complete system.”

haven’t been dithering around,…. have been fighting very expensive wars in the middle east,… trillions of dollars wasted,… no money left for trains. CUI BONO.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 1, 2020 12:21 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

You are completely deluded. Or a dis-informationist. Our rulers know how the world works, how else could they rule over us.

Jen
Jen
Aug 31, 2020 1:17 AM

Philip Roddis has a right to express agnosticism over whether COVID-19 is as serious as governments, the MSM and corporations – with a vested interest in promoting particular solutions (usually technology-based band-aid type solutions like vaccines) to deal with the disease – say it is, or not. All the commenting about how he should do this, that or the other to educate himself on the nature of COVID-19 misses the point that he is making: that regardless of whether COVID-19 is as serious and deadly as it is claimed to be, or no more serious than influenza, the way in which governments, the MSM and other particular individuals, organisations and corporations are dealing with the disease – the selective use of lockdowns, the breathless reporting of new cases of people testing positive for a virus that will not cause any problems for at least 90% of those people, the focus… Read more »

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Aug 31, 2020 1:42 AM
Reply to  Jen

jen, I know you mean well, but when I was a kid, I was taught both English and French and the word précis. My English teacher explained it to me.

You used a lot of words, but didn’t say anything new.

I do understand. You are the same as Philip Roddis.##

You have bought the official story hook,line and sinker.

You never even questioned it. Why is that? You are obviously highly intelligent.

Have a nice day,

Tony

ChrisG
ChrisG
Aug 31, 2020 6:40 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

It’s a question of priorities, who rules Society and for what purpose. What other way can we deal with this sort of social situation except by Socialist Revolution?

Jen
Jen
Aug 31, 2020 8:12 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

QED

richard
richard
Aug 31, 2020 5:16 PM
Reply to  Jen

Doughnuts are eaten by queers, therefore – queers eat doughnuts – QED.

Croach
Croach
Aug 31, 2020 2:18 AM
Reply to  Jen

Public fear of the pandemic is the keystone in manufacturing assent to the drive towards 4IR (for which the continued police state is required). Therefore it makes perfect sense to address that first and comprehensively. I also think that once an individual can understand the scope, extent and nature of the deception regarding Sars2 they can begin to recognize the same regarding all the other major socio-economic/political issues that are subject to the same level of distortion and manipulation. Reading 4IR marketing materials from the WEF, IMF etc. almost all the ‘plans for the near future’ that will impact the majority of people most severely are being presented as being justified to protect the public from ‘infection’ and ‘biohazard’ – the ‘contactless society’ for example. ‘The disease’ is never going away, rather exactly what ‘the disease’ is will shift and twist to suit the aims of those in charge. The… Read more »

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 31, 2020 2:20 AM
Reply to  Jen

If the disease has already passed, it would explain the renaming of ‘Covid-19’ to ‘Coronavirus’ (of which there are seven, including the common cold) and why desperate governments are using asymptomatic ‘cases’ to justify lockdowns.

According to Dr Wolfgang Wodarg (video below) coronaviruses have always been in the mix. They are here to stay. So the notion of a disease passing is disingenuous or naive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI&vl=en

It is possible the MSM view is uniformly biased and agenda driven, seeing as most of it is owned by the same ruling elite.

I think about the residents of Melbourne who are living under curfew and police intimidation. This is the ‘zealousness’ we should be criticising.

Igor
Igor
Aug 31, 2020 12:58 AM

“Cui bono?” is the same as “Follow the Money”.
Either way, ends up pointing to the same group of people.

Obviously, somebody doesn’t like that question being asked.

At some point, “cui bono” may be determined to be anti-Semitic hate speech.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Aug 31, 2020 12:28 AM

Mike J
Mike J
Aug 31, 2020 12:12 AM

Any source that parrots the official 9/11 narrative is not to be trusted. 9/11 truthers are often disinfo shills so discernment is important.

john
john
Aug 31, 2020 12:11 AM

CUI BONO? To throw the whole Covid-19 epidemic into perspective it should be emphasized that every year there are between 294,000 and 518,000 deaths from influenza. You can read about this here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6815659/pdf/jogh-09-020421.pdf 300,000 to 500,000 dead from influenza every year. 300,000 dead in a good flu season. 500,000 dead in a bad flu season. You may ask why there is no global lock-down for influenza. You may ask why the media shows no concern at all for the hundreads of thousands of mainly elderly people, who are dying at this very moment, due to this under-reported (because it happens every winter) influenza epidemic. What is the difference between dying from pneumonia caused by Covid-19 or dying from pneumonia caused by Influenza? Before there was easy testing of Covid-19, all instances of pneumonia were assumed to be pneumonia caused by Covid-19. In this way you had immediate and comprehensive care.… Read more »

WhereIsScience
WhereIsScience
Aug 31, 2020 12:55 AM
Reply to  john

Add to that the elderly people dying already from the common strains of coronaviruses. Co-infection also exist. Even people testing positive for COVID19 could be infected by an influenza virus.

JayTe
JayTe
Aug 31, 2020 11:09 AM
Reply to  WhereIsScience

I have an expression that I always tell people. 2/3 of the time I will be wrong but I’m happy to change my opinion when faced with new facts. Initially I started out thinking that this must be serious and we needed to focus on testing and protecting the vulnerable. But the more data that comes in, and I’m grateful to many but especially Children’s Health Defense for a lot of information that I discovered. I’m clear that those with preexisting conditions are vulnerable but for the rest of the population whatever seasonal flu is passing through is mild. The CDC just published updated numbers showing that less than 9700 people died of Covid-19 alone. Everyone else had at least 2 pre existing conditions! What this shows is the number of people in poor health and if you have ever watched the Truth About Cancer series (you can see the… Read more »

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 31, 2020 1:58 PM
Reply to  WhereIsScience

And pneumonia remains one of the biggest killers of the elderly.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Aug 31, 2020 12:05 AM

The Truth, well the best you can find it, with an open objective mind, although harsh, is actually quite liberating. I am not suggesting it is likely. it has only happened to me once, that a live TV Crew, sticks a microphone in my face, and says speak, and I did, but if it happens again, though I am not seeking it, I know I am on steady ground. The Truth is Like a Rock. You have something to stand on, and defend the next question with a cutting smile, and no bullshit…..Do you want to see The EVIDENCE? Louise Hampton is Doing Brilliant. One brave little girl can make a difference. According to the Daily Mail, she’s a Mum too, so she is almost certain to get on the telly too. I reckon she has the balls to do it. I think we are actually making some progress, at… Read more »

richard
richard
Aug 31, 2020 5:28 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

What was it Blackadder said to Baldrick after listening to his War Poem?
Something like: “Well it started off ok, tapered off a little in the middle and the less said about the end the better”…

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 1, 2020 12:28 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

You talk the talk but do you walk the walk? What’s the truth, Tony?

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Aug 30, 2020 11:30 PM

To go with “three reads” here is an August “watch.” Alison McDowell of Wrench in the Gears taking questions and explaining what her in depth research has show – regarding what our betters have planned for we mere plebs going forward:

mikael
mikael
Aug 30, 2020 10:47 PM

Yup, Cui Bono, uh… was used by the ancient Romans, thousands of years ago, or the more upto date, Follow the Bricks, hehe, but I dont expect the present “experts” to know that much, not that I doubt there are some genuine smart people out there, but then again, its about power, why on earth are we in the year of the lord 2020 stil in this cold war mindsett, that alone is the beacon that shows how deeply they have sunk into the mud, by them self and tries to blame everybody else for their own faults, and then the drivel about Trolls, uh…. jesus, this is pathetic. Have you read Foucaoults pendelum, by an Italian called Umberto Eco if not, I recomend you to do so. The reason for not going after the Chines, and not bothering to attack Russia, is more to the fact that they are… Read more »

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 30, 2020 10:55 PM
Reply to  mikael

You lost me with your reference to MMT.

richard
richard
Aug 31, 2020 5:37 PM
Reply to  mikael

Dear Mikael, are you really a ruski or are you fake?
Your reference to itsy bitsy teeny weeny – (yellow polka-dot bikini)
gives your age away at least…

Molinos
Molinos
Aug 30, 2020 10:45 PM

The writer is sitting on the fence (I hope it’s a nice broad wooden fence) while I am stuck in a room in a shared house with Covid/lockdown fanatics. These middle class lifetime lefties and radicals are truly frightening in their complete susceptibility to media generated collective hysteria and fear. They are appalled by protests against lockdown/masks such as those that took place yesterday. I have found solace with the working class people on my street who have long viewed the dictates of our parasitical masters with suspicion, but when I was spotted talking to them by a male Covid Stasi in my house I was warned that I should avoid talking to others lest I spread the virus to them. So Philip I put this to you. When Belarus applied to the IMF for a billion dollar loan they were told it would be granted on one condition: impose… Read more »

John
John
Aug 31, 2020 12:39 AM
Reply to  Molinos

“I have found solace with the working class people on my street who have long viewed the dictates of our parasitical masters with suspicion, but when I was spotted talking to them by a male Covid Stasi in my house I was warned that I should avoid talking to others lest I spread the virus to them.” I also have such a dictatorial person around (not a ‘leftie’ though). When you have lefties circling around you, you are definitely in the wrong place, even without the current scare. Anyway, I wonder how many people are in the same position. Divide and rule, where normally one could get along with the people around you, the tolerance and tact of people are now put to the test to the extreme. I normally mostly avoid media (relatively ever more), even without the current scare, I do listen to a classical music station regularly,… Read more »

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 1, 2020 12:30 AM
Reply to  Molinos

The writer is sitting on the fence (I hope it’s a nice broad wooden fence) while I am stuck in a room in a shared house with Covid/lockdown fanatics. These middle class lifetime lefties and radicals are truly frightening in their complete susceptibility to media generated collective hysteria and fear. They are appalled by protests against lockdown/masks such as those that took place yesterday.

Loved this. I can’t speak to much of my family any more (they fit your description).

Judith
Judith
Aug 30, 2020 10:24 PM

I see the CIA are getting in at the basement level in the New People’s party currently being developed in the USA, with their ;Global warming scam;. Until the global warming scam on the left, or the Fascist far-right are gone, we are doomed to a future of misery.

Carey
Carey
Aug 30, 2020 11:20 PM
Reply to  Judith

> I see the CIA are getting in at the basement level in the New People’s party

But of course! I saw the nominal head of that latter thing speak (what a cuck!) a few months ago, and said to myself “this is going absolutely nowhere” [by design]..

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 30, 2020 9:57 PM

You drive by haters need to get a grip. It being Sunday today’s sermon is about the ancient and reinforced lie of TAX PAYERS MONEY. Here comes the full-on barrels of hard BrexShit header rotten apple just desserts with that mendacity of ‘TAX PAYERS MONEY’ still being used as the abracadabra spell – meaningless as it always has been and engrained onto the general populace’s ‘common sense’ by Maggies Purse bashing people’s brains to mush. The Obsessive Groan is in ecstatic orgasmic joy with it with full on spaffing all over its dumb pleb readers – who will no doubt also get a golden shower with their gobs wide open full of the shit they bought by slighting JC because their presstitute favourite whores, told them told them to. 1st the hardly concealed glee of a US style cable ‘news shows’ with more US billionaires finally getting their hands on… Read more »

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Sep 1, 2020 11:34 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

Love it 17 drive by down votes so far , not one denial. 🙂

Rexton
Rexton
Aug 30, 2020 9:56 PM

Sugartit
Aug 30, 2020 9:54 PM
Awaiting for approval

The Economist so obviously edit the graphs & charts to exclude the UK or US when the figures go against them, or expose them as the worst in the list. The economist is replete with lots of pro Anglo-sphere editing or lies. Such a lying rag, we need to laugh at them more.

Sugartit
Sugartit
Aug 30, 2020 9:54 PM

The Economist so obviously edit the graphs & charts to exclude the UK or US when the figures go against them, or expose them as the worst in the list. The economist is replete with lots of pro Anglo-sphere editing or lies. Such a lying rag.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 30, 2020 9:42 PM

Excellent picks Mr Roddis.

Craig Murray should be given the highest accolades for his reporting of the Salmond scapegoating trial and the DS behind it – which is threatening him with ruin without a jury trial too.

It is the even further addition to the Dreyfus level judicial perversion in the U.K. couped junta state that we live in.

Xi has over seen the greatest raising of the poorest in history already and with the Russian muscle and tech innovation will be the planets saviour.

All in all a great future awaits. But I will say the lack of focus on the basic fact of Money is the biggest veil and illusion that still persists. An illustration follows in my next comment.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 30, 2020 9:59 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

If it ever gets out of instant jail censor in time… the new MO on Ogee.

kevin king
kevin king
Aug 30, 2020 9:02 PM

The Covaids hoax is from the same playbook they have been using for decades. For those of us who were in our twenties in the 1980s we are all too familiar with it. It’s all built on fear of the invisible. Janine Roberts wrote a brilliant book of this title on the HIV hoax. It shows you just how corrupt the system is and has been that this stuff has never been exposed after all these years. I never met anyone who knew anyone who died from HIV. Funnily enough I can say the same about the Covaids.

Goytic
Goytic
Aug 30, 2020 9:45 PM
Reply to  kevin king

Also very similar to the Global warming hoax which is aimed at wrecking the world, economy in a similar way.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 30, 2020 9:51 PM
Reply to  kevin king

The SCAMDEMIC is a scam (a horrendous one) not a hoax. The Corporate Fascist Oligarch Mobster Psychopaths are perpetrating this crime against humanity not as a prank but to enslave all of us.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Aug 30, 2020 8:18 PM

It’s very difficult to figure out what the author is saying about the pestilence. All I get is that he’s not saying anything but Gupta might be right but so what. He doesn’t mention that the casualty figures are of those who died after testing positive for covid, OF covid, without reference to any co~ morbidity. Is this common practice in medicine? Does this not arouse his curiosity? 40,000 deaths from a corona type virus, one reads, is not unusual and has never inspired a lockdown anywhere ever in recorded history. This does not pique his curiosity either. He manifests some of the symptoms of intelligence but he certainly hasn’t caught it. He may be suffering from Advanced Meanderous Waffle though, a condition prevalent in soi disant intellectuals.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Aug 30, 2020 8:52 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

“Advanced Meanderous Waffle”

I might nick that, if I ever get to a mask free pub again.

They will be issuing straws next.

Poke it through your mask and suck.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Aug 31, 2020 10:17 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

We’ll be doing the same in the soup kitchen,the way things are going.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Aug 30, 2020 8:13 PM

#Scamdemic “Reset” Fulfils Protocols of Zion

A synopsis of the Illuminati’s blueprint

https://henrymakow.com/2020

Paul_too
Paul_too
Aug 30, 2020 8:13 PM

Phillip Rodis really should read a little on the fraudulent actions by the WHO over the past 2 decades. In particular the altering of the definition of what actually is deemed to be a pandemic. He may well not be aware that change removed any criteria for numbers of people sick and number of people dead, but that still triggers emergency responses which are now far greater in their reach than when it did include the original criteria. Or maybe he should watch the documentary TrustWHO, even if it’s only the last section where the then director, Margaret Chan admits that the biggest issue facing the future of the WHO is private funding, which leaves the organisation unable to steer itself nor avoid being unavoidably controlled by the deepest pockets. Or if he was really stuck for reading material how about looking at Event 201 and seeing how the plan… Read more »

Sean Hunt
Sean Hunt
Aug 30, 2020 8:13 PM

The comments here are more interesting than the article.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Aug 30, 2020 8:38 PM
Reply to  Sean Hunt

As soon as I read the navel-gazing, self-referential first sentence, which seemingly assumes we the readers were waiting with bated breath for this particular commentator to weigh in on the Issue of the Day, I skipped down to the comments.

Sean Hunt
Sean Hunt
Aug 30, 2020 9:03 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Any published commentator with half a brain who is still sitting on the fence regarding the fake Covid-19 plandemic scam is not to be trusted. And my feelings were confirmed when a commentator below (Sharon Marlowe) said that Mr Philip Roddis, nearly 20 years after the event, was not sure if 9/11 was an inside job or not.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 31, 2020 9:08 AM
Reply to  Sean Hunt

I have a respect for Philip but we have disagreements. On the topic of 9/11, he came round to doubting the official account. However, from the comments he made, it seems he subscribes to the “Let it happen” rather than “Made it happen” view. I think “Let it happen” is wildly illogical if you consider how the “inside job” team could not possibly have been able to guarantee the effect they were looking for purely by just suspending the defense system. Also, if they just let it happen, that means the basic supposition of the official account i.e. that the US really does have a formidable enemy out there, stays intact. Indeed, didn’t the MSM itself eventually come round to the notion that Bush “knew in advance”?

Sean Hunt
Sean Hunt
Aug 31, 2020 4:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The official story has so many holes and inconsistencies, that only the most blind government supporter has any faith that what they are saying is the truth.

Carey
Carey
Aug 30, 2020 11:12 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

> As soon as I read the navel-gazing, self-referential first sentence

Hear, hear, Fact Checker: who the f*ck exactly is Philip Roddis™, and why in the world would we be waiting with bated breath for *his* opinions?

Looks like Philip Roddis™ is going along with Ms. Johnstone’s “it’s just all so murky and confusing!!!” approach to the civil-liberties-destroying faux-pandemic..

More gaslighting, IOW-

bleechhh.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Aug 30, 2020 8:12 PM

The Coming War on China – True Story Documentary Channel  True Story Documentary Channel The Coming War on China, from award winning journalist John Pilger, reveals what the news doesn’t – that the world’s greatest military power, the United States, and the world’s second economic power, China, both nuclear-armed, may well be on the road to war. Nuclear war is not only imaginable, but planned. The greatest build-up of NATO military forces since the Second World War is under way on the western borders of Russia. On the other side of the world, the rise of China is viewed in Washington as a threat to American dominance. To counter this, President Obama announced a ‘pivot to Asia’, which meant that almost two-thirds of all US naval forces would be transferred to Asia and the Pacific, their weapons aimed at China. A policy which has been taken up by his successor… Read more »

no more lies
no more lies
Aug 30, 2020 10:20 PM
Reply to  Caltrop

There’s compelling evidence so-called “nukes” don’t even exist. Hiro/Naga were firebombed, Read the excellent “Death Object: Exploding the Nuclear Weapons Hoax” by Japanese author Akio Nakatani. Here’s another interesting article:- “On This Atom Bomb Anniversary You’re Being Lied to About Hiroshima – and Much More to Make You Fearful” – By Daily Bell Staff – August 06, 2016 – it includes lots of great links… Fake covid, fake nukes, the whole world’s a stage, that’s not to say there won’t be conflict, just not as you’re imagining it. I no longer trust Pilger, nor any “journalists”, not anymore. I do my own research from now on. BTW, presidents, prime ministers, chancellors etc, they are all mere puppets…

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 30, 2020 10:41 PM
Reply to  Caltrop

Bemused by John Pilger’s silence over lockdown, especially when he’s in Australia, which has become a police state.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 30, 2020 7:58 PM

If a relative of mine had died of Covid-19, I would want to know how they had arrived at such a definitive conclusion. What science did they use to know beyond any doubt?

When PCR tests are a travesty, and Bulgarian pathologists are claiming people have died with it, but not of it, what am I to think?

We are allowed to ask these questions when the air is thick with political coronavirus skulduggery.

My mind is fatigued from this can of worms.

Loverat
Loverat
Aug 30, 2020 7:49 PM

I was one of those fashionable house husbands in 1998 then and sat 2 hours through Hercules, a cartoon film. My son seemed completely engrossed.

But when it finished he suddenly said to me

“what the hell was that about”

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 30, 2020 7:35 PM

“Call me a dirty lowdown agnostic…” How about, “indecisive”? Or, “going along to get along”? Or maybe, “weak-minded”? If Phillip Rodis is still “agnostic” nearly two decades on from the 9/11 event, then maybe by 2040 he’ll still wonder about the plandemic of 2020… There’s something trending on Twitter that may be interesting(first time for everything). It’s the CDC’s weekly report. Table 3 is what’s trending: “Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics”https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm “Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.” 94% of people reported to… Read more »

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Aug 30, 2020 7:57 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Well-said, thank you!!

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 30, 2020 8:16 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

😉

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 30, 2020 10:01 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

And I would bet that, of the 6% “of Covid” deaths, cause of death was not established by post mortem but was ‘assumed’ for a significant proportion of them.

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 30, 2020 10:57 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Agreed:)

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Aug 30, 2020 7:32 PM

Dear Philip, ” It’s not that I lost a dear friend to it in May.” So your mind is already made up. How do you know you lost a dear friend to it in May? Maybe your dear friend had Pneumonia or something else, and you were told he had COVID, and you accepted it without question. Trust in authority is quite overwhelming, and affects the vast majority of people, so they stop any kind of critical analysis, and just accept what they are told, and do what they are told. I know someone, who died at the age of 91, and the family was told that he died of COVID. They too accepted it without question. Maybe he would have died anyway. 91 is not a bad innings. I also know a bloke who is 96, and he is fine. It will take more than a cold to kill… Read more »

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Aug 30, 2020 7:18 PM

The covid panic is proving to be a far grater threat to what remains of humanities freedoms and civil rights than any ginned up war with China.

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 30, 2020 7:12 PM

Just “grudging respect” for China? David Rockefeller could trump that…

https://www.nytimes.com/1973/08/10/archives/from-a-china-traveler.html

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 30, 2020 6:50 PM

Who will decide the terms on which lockdown ends

Ends?

May Hem
May Hem
Aug 30, 2020 10:59 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Lockdown? More accurate term is ‘Lockup’, along with ‘Anti-social distancing’.

Stevia Thoreau
Stevia Thoreau
Aug 30, 2020 6:38 PM

Why would no action follow from beliefs about 9/11 or Covid19? I guess if you aren’t an activist, no actions follow from any of your beliefs.

AngryAngry
AngryAngry
Aug 30, 2020 7:43 PM
Reply to  Stevia Thoreau

Why does Off G aloe his views- if ever there was an ex CIA being controlled Op…..😴😴😴😴