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My daughter was “positive” for Covid…without ever being tested My family was told to self isolate, based a on a test that never took place.

Helen Ilitha

My middle child has always struggled with lung issues. She is prone to asthma incidents and attacks after a triggering event. Such an event would be if she were to go swimming when the ambient temperature is very low.

A few weekends ago she went for a walk by a river with her friends and their dad and upon her return I saw from her blue lips that they must have taken a dip into the river.

Her cough developed within an hour and slowly but surely her coughing and wheezing worsened over the next 10 days despite the use of asthma medication. After a sleepless night I contacted the doctor to ask for dissolvable steroid tablets because I knew by then that the situation would not clear itself without stronger meds.

Our General Practitioner has barricaded herself into her surgery and away from her patients since March. This has resulted in us being reduced to requesting medical assistance and advice vicariously through the GP’ receptionist.

This has its downsides. She has been massively over diagnosing patients, including myself whom she instructed her receptionist to order me to attend the local hospital’s A&E department with a suspected heart attack – which I am delighted to report I was not in the midst of.

I also had my medical condition discussed in front of a sizable crowd of patients via the intercom system linking the receptionist’s desk with the car park. It is fair to say we have not been well served by this doctor for some months now.

But I was confident that she’d simply prescribe a few steroid tablets and leave it at that. Instead, the receptionist advised me that I had to take my daughter to an “Acute Clinic” in another part of town. I assumed that this clinic was one dealing with acute respiratory infections and conditions.

Our first indication that all was not well occurred as we walking in the door of the building. Security guards in visors and masks yelled at us to stand still, then nursing staff came running with hand sanitiser and face masks. It was only then that I asked, “Is this a Covid clinic or a respiratory clinic?” It was, of course, the former.

I was told nevertheless to stay as GPs were inside and they would be able to diagnose any condition and offer treatment. Ok I thought, the carry on at the door had left my daughter rather stressed, but at least a doctor was a short wait away. We were led into a surgery room and went through a triage with a nurse. Once we had discussed the asthma, she went off to find the doctor.

The doctor examined my daughter, said that she could not hear any underlying chest infection issue, agreed that her problem related to asthma and she prescribed the medicine I had asked for already from my GP. So far so good.

As I rose to leave the doctor then started talking about how my daughter’s symptoms could be Covid19 symptoms. I said that I disagreed, we had gone through a list of those symptoms with the nurse and with the exception of the unspecific “persistent cough” none of the symptoms mirrored any issues she had.

I pointed out that even the cough was not relevant because it was caused by the asthma and the doctor had agreed she could hear no infection in her chest.

The doctor kept on insisting that I consider her taking the Covid19 test. When even my daughter said no she didn’t want it, the doctor then said that I must then ensure that our whole household “self isolate” for 14 days.

I asked on what possible basis could she tell us that we must self isolate. She had already made the clinical decision that my daughter had asthma and prescribed the treatment. She had not treated any additional condition so where was this Covid claim coming from?

I explained that my children had just gone back to school after 5 months of it being denied to them and I was not going to disrupt that because the doctor wanted to pretend my daughter had a condition that was not supported by her clinical findings.

We left.

Only afterwards did it dawn on me that the 14 day period from when the “symptoms” occurred was all but up. I didn’t keep the children out of school and my daughter’s condition improved dramatically after she took the steroids.

That, I thought, was the end of that!

The Scottish Health Service had other ideas though. A few days later a receptionist from our local GP’s office called. She’d been asked by the bunkered down GP to let us know that, wait for it, my daughter’s Covid19 test had come back positive and this meant that the whole household must self-isolate for 14 days.

Let me remind you at this point that my daughter had not been given a Covid19 test.

I admit I hit the roof.

I demanded to know why doctors were lying that asthma was Covid19.

I demanded to know why a person that refused to take a test had a test result written up in their notes.

I demanded to know where they felt they had the right to ruin my children’s education once more.

I got no answers at all, just told that I must speak to the barricaded GP.

I have since submitted a formal complaint for a full inquiry into this matter, and await some news from them.

I feel appalled by the breakdown of trust and respect I feel has occurred between myself and the medical practitioners. I do not want them to be making political decisions when treating me. I do not want them to act as if patients are some form of biohazard to be hosed down in chemicals at the door if they are ever deemed important enough to allow into the building in the first place.

Politicians cannot supplant their politicized agenda into the health care of children. When a doctor examines a patient then they, not some Minister or public policy drafter, are aware of all the facts they need to diagnose that person.

People cannot then have their worlds turned upside down by what they do not have, after the doctor has determined what they do have.

Helen Ilitha is a South African/Scottish lawyer currently living in Scotland. Working in the legal tech sector.

Filed under: coronavirus, latest, UK

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Fred
Fred
Sep 16, 2020 10:31 PM

Is it true the UK government plan to increase their coronavirus testing capacity by using algorithms to filter the specimens prior to testing according to area, then adjusting results of untested specimens according to the ratios of the tested specimens? So perhaps 80% (maybe) get tested and the other 20% get awarded a result without testing and all according to an algorithm? I have heard of specimens being exported to Germany and the States or discarded as they could not be tested but how can we tell? With tens of thousands of tests daily the labs must be in meltdown. It starts to get believable!

jesse james
jesse james
Sep 15, 2020 6:03 PM

Thank you for posting this, unfortunately this story is not uncommon.

Tony
Tony
Sep 14, 2020 9:43 PM
Arby
Arby
Sep 13, 2020 11:28 PM

I didn’t think GPs were also surgeons. How does a GP focus on surgery if he or she has to see all kinds of patients for all kinds of ailments?

YeahBut
YeahBut
Sep 14, 2020 8:06 PM
Reply to  Arby

“GP surgery” is British English for what in American English is a “family doctor’s office”.

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 12:29 PM

CLAP FOR THE NHS HEROES SAVING LIVES!

Nonsuch
Nonsuch
Sep 13, 2020 11:50 AM

Prof. Jay Bhattacharya, Director of the Institute for Health Policy at the renowned Stanford University, has sharply criticized the measures to combat the corona pandemic in an interview. In Bhattacharya’s opinion, policymakers have not sufficiently taken into account the devastating effects that the nationwide lockdown, as the central instrument for containing the virus, has brought with it.

https://art19.com/shows/john-solomon-reports/episodes/a194d7c5-d1f5-403b-a184-466731b9f549

In a podcast, Bhattacharya was shocked that at the beginning of this year many countries in the world shut down their economies and social life without having weighed the costs and benefits of this drastic step. With few exceptions – Sweden is one example – every country had made the same decisions. “And I think that was a major problem,” said Bhattacharya. Instead of sticking to the scripts followed in previous pandemics, politicians have ordered a “global ban” and thus broken new ground.

Bhattacharya made a scathing judgement on the transfer of SARS-CoV-2 patients to old people’s homes and nursing homes, as ordered by the authorities in some US states to relieve hospitals. Examples are New York and Pennsylvania. This exposed both the staff working there and the mostly elderly residents to an unnecessary risk of infection, which led to a significant increase in mortality in these facilities. Bhattacharya was also critical of the information policy of the World Health Organization.

At the beginning of the pandemic, the WHO estimated the mortality rate at up to 3.4 percent of those infected. This figure was alarmingly high and would have been significantly higher than the seasonal flu rate. However, current estimates now suggest a rate of between 0.26 and 0.5 percent. The calculations made by the health experts as the basis for political decisions to combat the disease would not have been based on hard data but on worst-case assumptions.

This error was not limited to certain countries. Rather, it was a “worldwide phenomenon”. Bhattacharya suspects that public health officials panicked at the death toll in the first few weeks of the pandemic and therefore put pressure on politicians to shut down the economy, even though this was the first time that this approach to fighting a pandemic had been used.

“I cannot understand why so many people followed this containment strategy,” Bhattacharya wonders. There would have been other ways to deal with Corona, and in a way that properly considered both the costs and benefits of the measures, the scientist says.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 13, 2020 3:52 PM
Reply to  Nonsuch

Classic silly-billies-did-a-whoopsie non-dissent.
Those lovable, bumbling scamps!

Nonsuch
Nonsuch
Sep 13, 2020 5:32 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

??? As a “non-English speaker” I cannot deci-
pher the intention of your “statement”. Please
concretize it in an easier to understand form!

THX-1143
THX-1143
Sep 14, 2020 6:12 PM
Reply to  Nonsuch

incompetence rather than malevolence, the standard limited-hangout fallback position.

Arby
Arby
Sep 13, 2020 11:44 PM
Reply to  Nonsuch

Sweden is repeated ad nauseum. It’s not the best example of a non lockdown country. James Corbett explains:

https://www.corbettreport.com/how-is-japan-reacting-now-questions-for-corbett-061/

YeahBut
YeahBut
Sep 14, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Arby

Sweden can be countered with Peru, which is a lockdown advocate’s dream; they locked down in early March, they wore masks from the start, it was and still is a severe lockdown with men and women allowed out of the house for “essential” trips only, on alternate days (with nobody allowed out on Sundays) so that it can be easily policed – by the military! There’s a curfew from 4pm. It did take longer for Peru to reach peak deaths, but their per capita death rate is the highest in the world, and they are still dying.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 8:26 PM
Reply to  YeahBut

Peru, then, is scary, not because of a non existent virus, but because it’s a system that makes people sick and kills them.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 15, 2020 5:45 AM
Reply to  Arby

Exactly. Any scam to conceal the brutal exploitation. They will prevent another Bolivia as under Morales. Even Chile is backsliding. Its looks like the return of Operation Condor.

Ianric
Ianric
Sep 13, 2020 9:38 AM

A virus so deadly they have to resort to classing people as testing positive without actually testing them.

Arby
Arby
Sep 13, 2020 11:44 PM
Reply to  Ianric

They are calling everything covid. They are lying – brazenly – about cases even, let alone deaths. If people can’t see that this is a hoax…

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Sep 13, 2020 3:18 AM

My pet Sheep, who doesn’t have a name, said:

“Baa…Baaa…Baaaa…”

Which according to my pet Kea, who has a name that is unspellable in English, means “Squawk!”

Which concisely translates into:

BUREAUCRATIC PSEUDO-SCIENCE

The Cow in the next field over, by the Manuka trees, responded with “Mooo!”

Which is a definite agreement.

BUREAUCRATIC PSEUDO-SCIENCE

The Tui which drinks nectar from the Kowhai tree sang silently:
“… use the phrase consistently when dealing with those whose propaganda programming casts shadows on their rationality…”.

Call it what it is.

BUREAUCRATIC PSEUDO-SCIENCE

.

Kusie Brough
Kusie Brough
Sep 13, 2020 8:46 AM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

Tui called ‘Kiwijoker’… many appreciate but don’t really Kea for the word of a Manuka’nt call his sheep his Cuzzy Bro!

Speights Mates
Speights Mates
Sep 13, 2020 8:18 PM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

Ka Pai or
Te Korero Pai
It’s all been
Pai
in the sky

Mick
Mick
Sep 14, 2020 12:56 PM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

BLUEBOTTLES

A partially sighted man thinks he may have an infestation of bluebottles in his kitchen. He has not heard them buzzing about but Somebody told him he ought to check anyhow.
He knows it is unlikely he will catch any live bluebottles they are much too quick but he thinks he may find some remnants or perhaps a complete specimen on his floor near where a spider lives, if he is lucky.
He takes a dustpan and sweeps the probable corner of his kitchen and tips the debris into a pot.
Of course he cannot see any flies in the pot and he suspects there may be some bits of food mixed in with whatever else is there too.

Despite his poor vision he is optimistic because his friend Kerry has invented a machine which can sort and magnify small particles and make the amount double.
First the machine loads a template that Somebody gave him to identify bluebottles, it then sticks the pieces together to make a whole specimen. The machine now doubles the amount.
The man shines a bright light on the doubled amount but cannot see anything.
He doubles it again and again and at somewhere around 30 to 40 times later (he lost count) he sees the characteristic metallic blue he was looking for.

He may have a problem. There appear to be over 10 billion flies in his kitchen?

No, thinking on this carefully he realises that the test he just conducted was not really a test at all but a manufacturing process!

The result will depend on how many times he magnifies the specimen. It will also depend on the template to start with.
Good job he had a reliable template that Somebody had made from a captured bluebottle.

He concludes that rather than worry about phantom bluebottles it would be better to just open the windows.
It is summer after all and they can just buzz in and out again.

It’s what bluebottles do every summer.

By Mick

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 13, 2020 12:03 AM

Father Robert Altier, parochial vicar in Minnesota, tells it exactly as it is. “A crock of rot!”.

I’ve checked the website for the Church of St Raphael and he is a genuine Church Minister.

There may be people we all know who, because of their religious faith or belief in his inherent sincerity, might be prepared to listen to his words.

jkb
jkb
Sep 13, 2020 2:35 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Thanks Judy. Many of my family and cousins and friends are Chatolic, so hopefully they listen to him.

Watt
Watt
Sep 13, 2020 4:43 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

This man nails it! Wonderful to hear him!

Luke
Luke
Sep 12, 2020 11:53 PM
Deplorable D
Deplorable D
Sep 12, 2020 10:57 PM

In my county, the Health Director has ordered all personnel who interact with the public must have a flu shot… to stop the spread of COVID-19. For months we are being told this is a unique and deadly virus that is nothing like the flu, but no one asks how a flu shot will prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2. County agencies are mandating ALL employees must obtain a flu shot, not just those who interact with the public, because we are all “essential workers”. I am refusing to take the flu shot. It is not logical. I am asked if this is the hill I want to die on. My response is if I do not make a stand on this hill, then what hill is worth it? I will not be forced to take a shot that has nothing to do with the stated purpose, and does not apply to me per the health order. I do not meet with the public or those who are at risk, plus their is just no virus spreading right now. It is a lie at this point.

I see this as the first step in making it a requirement to take a vaccine for a virus that is, for all clinical purposes, dead. This is largely due to intentional misuse of vocabulary. Positive tests are “cases”. “Case fatality rate” is transposed for “Infection fatality rate”. COVID-19, the disease, is used when SARS-CoV-2, the virus, should be.

On a side note, I have yet to wear a mask. I fully take advantage of the state exemption for medical purposes. Most corporations have the same exemption and I expect them to honor that policy. (Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals) Recently I had a store manager tell me I could not be in his store without a mask. I pointed out the state and his own company policy. He told me plainly it was his store policy. Without a confrontation I took down his name and emailed his company’s customer service team. The next day I received a phone call from the District Manager assuring me the issue was taken care of and I could shop without further incident. In today’s retail environment, many of these managers and district managers have a bonus tied to customer complaints. This is a means to refuse to comply. I was back at the store today and was actually in the process of having my items rung up at the cash register when a different manager approached me and told me I had to have a mask on. He tried to have me put one on even though I was about to walk out the door. I politely told him, I had already discussed this issue with his manager. This is how crazy it is. Why would a manager approach someone walking out the door?

It is fear of those who feel they need to be the “mask police”. One person like me refusing to comply threatens their power. If others follow my example, then what is the store manager to do? Throw everyone out? The sad thing is over the past six months I have had only 3 or 4 people remove their masks when seeing me disobey. The masses have no idea they actually have the power. A health order is not enforceable on the masses without buy-in. I fear for our society as this entire scam shows people will surrender any liberties they have willingly if someone says, “It is to save your life.”

May Hem
May Hem
Sep 12, 2020 11:22 PM
Reply to  Deplorable D

This is outrageous bullying. Your refusal to comply is admirable, Deplorable.

Forcing everyone to have a (possibly dangerous) flu shot is for the purpose of setting you up for the soon-to-come ‘virus’ injection, thus increasing the profits of the patent-owners and shareholders.

More depressing news from Australia where I live – they are now setting up ‘mass vaccination sites’ in Melbourne. Bugger! I will refuse, but what punishment will I face?

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/mass-vaccination-sites-named-in-anticipation-of-covid-19-vaccine-20200911-p55uqi.html

Jean Wilson
Jean Wilson
Sep 13, 2020 7:14 AM
Reply to  May Hem

I can hardly believe this is now happening in Melbourne…..
Far more police than protestors.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-13/victoria-coronavirus-anti-lockdown-protest-arrests-melbourne/12659410

Arby
Arby
Sep 13, 2020 11:52 PM
Reply to  Jean Wilson

The powers that shouldn’t be aren’t stupid, in some ways. They’ve managed to turn half the world (actually the uncaring majority) against the other half of the world. They are scott free because we can’t get around their gatekeepers.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 13, 2020 2:50 AM
Reply to  Deplorable D

I am asked if this is the hill I want to die on. My response is if I do not make a stand on this hill, then what hill is worth it?”

You got it. This tactic of extortion, being employed by many quasi-public entities worldwide, to force the “flu shot,” is nothing more than a stepping-stone, momentum-gaining ploy to ease people into the mandatory mRNA “vaccine.” (“m” stands for mutant.)

They’ve got us all just buying time, and temporary sufferances, with acts of compliance. The demands will become steadily more onerous and dangerous until every single one of us is dead, or an abject, genetically-modified bio-slave.

Best of luck to you. You are not dying on a hill. You are wandering into a forest. There is no trail, your path will be winding, and your pursuers will be at your heels, trying to drive you back out of the woods, into their occupied territory. The goal is not to lose your way, when the destination is unknown. It is to remain yourself.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 13, 2020 3:25 AM
Reply to  Deplorable D

My father got the flu shot several years in a row and now he has Mercury poisoning, skin cancers and neurological issues.

Avoid.

Jean Wilson
Jean Wilson
Sep 13, 2020 7:15 AM
Reply to  Researcher

If the flu shot works, why do hundreds of thousands die of it each year?

Arby
Arby
Sep 13, 2020 11:54 PM
Reply to  Jean Wilson

I don’t buy the virus story at all. I don’t buy the virus ‘concept’. But, Setting that aside, they – not the fakers like Tony Fauci and the corporate media reporters – are saying that getting flu shots makes it more likely that you’ll get covid 19.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 2:39 AM
Reply to  Jean Wilson

They don’t actually die from laboratory confirmed flu or even with laboratory confirmed flu.

They generally die from pneumonia and/or MRSA infections in hospital, and doctors are allowed to mark death certificates with “flu” if the symptoms are flu-like.

I found the two papers below helpful when I first started researching flu stats.

https://www.bmj.com/content/331/7529/1412.full

https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/89/7/11-086173/en/

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 14, 2020 8:51 AM
Reply to  Researcher

When faced with doubt or alternative medicine, they utter “evidence-based”. But everyday cutting of corners is legal. Another source – maybe Robert Kennedy Jr. – also said only a tiny fraction, something like 18 cases per year, were lab-confirmed. That makes you wonder about the annual decisions taken on the group of flu virus variants that the next vaccine is to cater for.

Yami
Yami
Sep 13, 2020 7:24 AM
Reply to  Deplorable D

My job is in media (read Ministry of Propaganda) and it is enforcing masks. As I am in Japan, everyone is an obedient sheep here, so they don’t think it’s an inconvenience or even a threat to health to wear their dirty face rags for 8 hours plus at work and even longer, if we add up the commuting time.
I’ve been “wearing” my mask on one ear and got quite a few complains from co-workers. Mind you, they never told me directly, but I was notified by my boss that some people said they are “uncomfortable”. Now I am being fired, one of the reasons being my “uncooperativeness”.
Note that it is not mandatory to wear face diapers, it is just an “onegai”, that is “a favor” that they are asking of you.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 2:42 AM
Reply to  Yami

I’m sorry that you’re being fired for trying to take care of your mental and physical health.

Arby
Arby
Sep 13, 2020 11:50 PM
Reply to  Deplorable D

“Why would a manager approach someone walking out the door?” He’s mentally and spiritually ruined. He, like most others in this pandemic hoax/terrorist operation, is finding that covid 19 can give his empty life meaning. And that’s possible because his life is not only empty but… not there.

“Randolph Bourne’s Amateur Government Agents” / https://app.box.com/s/a5cth4evmzxocnjt907z970r3p9w9y0d

ruralgal
ruralgal
Sep 14, 2020 4:04 AM
Reply to  Deplorable D

I live in rural Victoria, Australia. Its MANDATORY to wear a mask when outside. If you dont you get fined around $2000 – most I know are ONLY wearing a mask so we dont get fined. I DO NOT believe in the CV19 bullshit at all and there are man like me here. The gov has moved to hard-handed tatics to control people as they can see unrest growing.

Luke
Luke
Sep 12, 2020 10:53 PM

https://3speak.co/watch?v=rairfoundation/hmjljkgk

Read all the links in the description

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 13, 2020 10:00 AM
Reply to  Luke

Thanks, Luke. I haven’t yet read all the links but have looked at the one to the Nature magazine edition from 9 September.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02594-w

I shall quote the comments of Marie-Paul Kieny, a vaccine researcher at INSERM the French national health research institute in Paris, immediately following the pause in the Oxford vaccine trial:

“The clinical hold shows that there are functioning checks and balances in spite of political pressure. It might indeed remind everybody – even presidents – that for vaccines, safety is paramount. If the event is linked definitively, or even probably, to the vaccine it could be a definite blow to this particular vaccine candidate. If unrelated, the hold might be lifted in a matter of weeks. [my underlining]

Now let’s see. How quickly did the trial apparently resume after the serious event in the human guinea pig? Four, maybe five, days? I would be interested to hear what Ms Kieny has to say about this.

YeahBut
YeahBut
Sep 14, 2020 9:36 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Likewise with the 4 grade 3 events that were recorded in healthy subjects in the Moderna phase I trial. Grade 3 is pretty bad, it requires hospital treatment and is one level below life threatening. Yet the vaccine is being presented as “safe”.

Tony
Tony
Sep 12, 2020 9:10 PM

Don’t know if this has been linked here before. It’s Rik Mayall’s last movie, available in full, free, and legal, on youtube. It predicts, fairly accurately, what’s unfolding right now.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 12, 2020 3:34 PM

“The doctor kept on insisting that I consider her taking the Covid19 test. When even my daughter said no she didn’t want it, the doctor then said that I must then ensure that our whole household “self isolate” for 14 days.”

New Monopoly rule” No Covid test? Go directly to jail. Do not collect $200 dollars.

MerryWhat?
MerryWhat?
Sep 12, 2020 3:09 PM

Politicians cannot supplant their politicized agenda into the health care of children.

Obviously they now can.

Haven’t they given themselves extra/enhanced/emergency/ powers.

I tell you what is also creepy: the silence of all the staff involved; nurses, receptionists, aids, other doctors. They are following the script like automatons without showing any sign of intelligence. For speaking up could mean you’re rocking the boat. From another perspective, neolibralism managed to make everyone to become so busy that no one has time to raise the alarm and put things straight.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 12, 2020 6:02 PM
Reply to  MerryWhat?

“…all the staff involved; nurses, receptionists, aids, other doctors…are following the script like automatons without showing any sign of intelligence. “

Almost as if they’re “situated decision-makers” as opposed to autonomous rational thinkers.

Where have I heard something like that before?

(Cough, MINDSPACE, cough.)

Jane
Jane
Sep 12, 2020 2:25 PM

I am horrified by what you had to go through and by the attitudes of doctors in Scotland. As a former asthma sufferer I also know how frightening asthma can be. This is irrelevant to your post and please don’t think I’m interfering in something that is none of my business, but dietary changes can work wonders with asthma. Basically high fat, low carb and vitamin D. The following site really did change my life. https://www.jdmoyer.com/2010/07/17/how-i-cured-my-asthma-with-one-simple-lifestyle-change/

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 12, 2020 11:34 PM
Reply to  Jane

Cow’s milk is also common trigger for asthma as are gluten and GMOs.

Jane
Jane
Sep 13, 2020 10:37 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Yes, pasteurised cow’s milk. Raw, unpasteurised milk from cows raised on grass is completely different. It is against the law though to sell unpasteurised milk in some countries, including, surprise surprise, Scotland (though not England) where the writer of the article lives.

Arby
Arby
Sep 13, 2020 11:59 PM
Reply to  Jane

I now wonder how many of our ailments (like asthma) actually come from vaccines. Rockefeller health care ‘professionals’ won’t know because that’s not what their bosses want them to know or even consider as a possibility. Can you imagine the fallout to the vaccine industry from such musings, let alone findings were they to honesty investigate. You can’t get them to prove to us that there’s a Sars CoV 2 virus. They don’t dare honesty try to do that. Don’t expect much.

Jane
Jane
Sep 14, 2020 8:23 AM
Reply to  Arby

I agree with what you say about vaccines. So-called “anti-vaxxers” have such reasonable and convincing arguments that they are never allowed to be heard in open debate with the pro-vaccine “eminent” professionals. But I am old enough not to have been vaccinated against anything except polio (which may well be a harmless passenger virus while the disease itself is caused by pesticides) and I became asthmatic in my thirties. I think even vaccine-induced asthma would be improved by an anti-inflammatory diet – completely the opposite of current dietary advice – high fat, low carb. The one change that really made a difference for me was soaking my breakfast porridge overnight in warm water with lemon juice (well, whey actually, which I make myself by separating out the curds from unpasteurised milk, but that might not be possible for everyone). I think poor diet is at the root of a lot of ailments.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 5:20 PM
Reply to  Jane

Poverty has a lot to do with it. I’ve been poor all of my life. The difference, for me, between my earlier years and now is that I came to the realization that I could eat well. I focus on two things, as I hate to complicate things and, anyway, I have no ability to complicate things (with a beater kitchen and no vehicle to go out shopping any time I want), namely quality (organics are big then) and balance (which I believe is sensible). My sister’s partner has non stop stomach issues, but he won’t eat vegetables. Go figure. You need enzymes, from raw foods, in order to digest properly.

I have high blood pressure – In this world, How do people ‘not’ have high blood pressure – and high cholesterol and I now have atherosclerosis and kidney stones. Why? I think that I laid a poor foundation in my earlier years. I knew nothing about quality food, failed to exercise and ate crap food on hot plates from the time I left home at 18 until I was in my late 40s. I had heartburn every day of my life for longer than I can remember. The heartburn is gone and, aside from general deterioration as a result of the stress of covid 1984, I actually feel fine. I’m 64.

Kids need to understand the concept of ‘foundation’ and keep in mind the idea that it’s best to think about the catastrophe (bad health or whatever) ‘before’ it happens, if possible, rather than ‘after’.

Jane
Jane
Sep 14, 2020 6:17 PM
Reply to  Arby

I’m glad your health issues seem to have improved with better diet. Have you heard about the Weston Price Foundation? They’ve gone a bit 5G on the subject of covid, but I find their dietary advice sound in general. You might find them a bit meaty, but it’s clean meat.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Sep 12, 2020 1:20 PM

In the US providers were given an array of codes for billing COVID -19.  Physicians and hospitals are “guaranteed reimbursement” for coronavirus testing and treatment– an INCENTIVE in itself for labeling patients COVID positive.  The statistics cannot be trusted.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 2:14 PM

Why the incentive?

Who’s pushing it?

Why is no one asking questions?

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Sep 12, 2020 2:35 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

In the US 30 million did not have health insurance prior to the pandemic, it’s probably doubled by now since insurance is usually attached to employment. That being said, hospitals and doctors will not be reimbursed if a patient cannot pay. However, COVID-19 is being covered under Medicare–hence ensuring provider payment.

In addition, it appears submitting statistics showing a high COVID caseload is viewed as desirable, maybe that’s why two motorcycle deaths in Florida were labeled COVID. I’m sure, similar shenanigans are going on in all other states.

The coronavirus is a “political hot potato” used by liberal mainstream news to remove Trump from office. I’m not a fan of Trump, but it’s reprehensible how the population is being terrorized and financially devastated by a disease not that much different from the flu.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 2:42 PM

I differ from your conclusion slightly. I agree the ruling class wants rid of Trump, but since the coronavirus shenanigans are being implemented globally, I suspect the agenda is the ‘Great Reset’ or the ‘New World Order’ etc.

The billionaires have initiated a coup of the world.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 12, 2020 3:24 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Oh yes, I totally agree it’s a “global reset” and have posted that opinion on numerous threads. My previous comment is a description of what’s occurring specifically in the US. In additional, the mainstream media news is encouraging race and culture wars. It’s a Color Revolution in the US–the Pacific Northwest is burning. One fire relating to fireworks, but others probably were purposely set. I believe they apprehended one nutcase trying to start a fire. I’m sure there’s more than one.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 3:54 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

I agree.

I became suspicious after reading about the millionaires and billionaires who had donated to BLM. These people couldn’t care less.

Now, it makes sense. The ruling class are steering dissent away from class consciousness and instead redirecting it towards identity politics to protect themselves. Divide and rule.

I suspect the destruction of the economy is deliberate too. To create poverty in order to increase the chances of fascism developing, as happened in Nazi Germany. (The ruling class will always prefer fascism over socialism.)

This is WW3.. I wish I hadn’t been born. What keeps me going lately is thinking about all the good people that there are in the world – and there are many.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 12, 2020 4:47 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Interesting, how the ruling class severely cracks down on the Yellow Vest Protesters and not BLM. Whenever the NYT advances an ideology it’s being promoted to benefit wealthy liberals.

The endgame is to move towards a more tolitarian state.

Over the last few years they saw most of the world’s population rejecting neoliberalism. You know the rest……..

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 5:05 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Yes. Ironically, the Yellow Vests are not very radical. They’re not revolutionary; they just want things to be a bit fairer.

If the New Normal happens, then no one wins, except a handful of billionaires.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 12, 2020 5:18 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

If there’s no push back wealth will continue to be consolidated, all public services will be privatized, and heightened surveillance will deployed to suppress the outrage.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 12:08 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

There’s pushback but it can never be enough. There’s far, far more cattle than human beings. They – the cattle – are the new vaccine markets. They are also additional enforcers (Randolph Bourne’s “amateur government agents”) of the Transnational Capitalist Class that is enslaving and abusing us.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 12:05 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

I have no use for the old normal either. But, ‘if’ only those two normals are on offer, I prefer the pre covid normal.

Dave Lawton
Dave Lawton
Sep 12, 2020 9:58 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Zanny Minton Beddoes Bilderberger up herself Editor in Chief of the Economist said in an interview with BBC World Service The only people who matter on this planet are those of us who where at the Davos meeting.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 12, 2020 11:05 PM
Reply to  Dave Lawton

Isn’t that the truth………I wonder how they plan on eliminating billions of the unscrubbed masses.

Dave Lawton
Dave Lawton
Sep 12, 2020 9:51 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

The day after the British people voted to leave the EU project in the 2016 referendum. One of the Elites journalists for Foreign Policy wrote “It’s Time for the Elites to Rise Up Against the Ignorant Masses”

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 12:04 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

“These people couldn’t care less.” Of course not. The SAME pushers of vaccines are pushing war, war preparations (weapons purchases), fast foods and pesticides. Look at the investors.They invest, first and foremost, in each other (for safety). Then they look beyond – because capitalism doesn’t work. Endless capitalist expansion doesn’t work. That’s probably a large part of the motivation for population reduction via vaccines. (Faithlessness also plays a role.)

“Authors Of The Global Biosecurity Police State” / https://app.box.com/s/aii15ttx2mgqvmm86pftpl8xwphn59yr

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 14, 2020 12:10 AM
Reply to  Arby

I’m an atheist, but their agenda is horrendous. The only way the human race can survive in the long term is if we do away with money and live for the greater good. Love should be the currency. It’s unthinkable unfortunately. The selfish spoil it for the rest.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 12:56 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Indeed.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 14, 2020 2:36 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

The only way to stop people from freely, peacefully exchanging goods for agreed-upon currency is with violence.
There is no “greater good.”
There are only excuses to use violence against those trying to live and exchange peacefully.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 14, 2020 8:23 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Poverty is violence and poverty is built into the system (the Reserve Army Of Labour). It’s why three homeless people die every day in the United States.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 15, 2020 5:58 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Yes. People need to look at photos of Germany in 1939, Afghanistan under Communists, and pre-invasion Iraq, Syria and Libya. I could add pre-coup Bolivia. They tried to be free of the imperial currency keep out parasites and serve the people: all cardinal sins.

JonnyB
JonnyB
Sep 14, 2020 2:53 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

I agree with your premise , while pointing out that Fascism/ Socialism or Communism are essentially the same thing : totalitarianism .

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 12, 2020 11:35 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

The fires are set by directed energetic weapons. DEW

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 13, 2020 12:36 AM
Reply to  Researcher

You didn’t say by who…..

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 12:33 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Thats probably because he/she doesn’t know and is irrelevant until people relaise the buildings were not destroyed by conventional means.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 2:45 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

The US military.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 14, 2020 11:07 AM
Reply to  Researcher

If anything, a paid private psychopathic contractor–but do they work for?

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 7:42 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open
Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 12:10 AM
Reply to  mgeo

There’s a website I haven’t visited in a long time. It just didn’t measure up. And what an abusive commenting platform.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 12, 2020 11:39 PM

Charlotte, the msm and neoliberals don’t care about removing Trump. It’s all an act.

A sideshow. A carnival. A gladiator event. A circus with a clown. Total Kabuki.

A distractathon that never ends.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 13, 2020 12:42 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Since the Kennedy assassination the CIA has been sitting in the Oval Office. Trump irritates them because he’s an unedited bufoon who can’t effectively carryout their barbaric agenda.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 7:47 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

He has turned out to be too dangerous for them. E.g., trying to pull back troops, and blabbering about HCQ.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 13, 2020 12:19 PM
Reply to  mgeo

You’re propably correct, vacuous Biden is much more appealing to ghouls who prefer a scripted compliant (GMO) vegetable.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 12:10 AM
Reply to  mgeo

I don’t agree. He’s not a problem for them at all. Don’t fall for the drama. Trump is a team player, even if he is ugly as hell.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 4:22 AM
Reply to  Arby

Exactly. They needed the hydroxychloroquine narrative for the Trump voters. It was a red herring from the beginning. Without HQ and Fauci fronting as Dr. Evil, or the press making fun of Trump with his Lysol moment, they can’t motivate his base to vote.

Nothing works unless you can get the evangelicals on board.

That’s the main reason why they used 666 in the House Resolution act and in Microsoft’s azure cloud biometric digital ID patent. To rile up the Trump base. They are literally laughing their assess off behind the scenes. They can’t believe people are walking around with masks on believing this bullshit.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 4:27 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Acknowledged.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 4:11 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

The CIA is just a front for organized crime, drug running, overseas coups and the cryptocracy. It was formed through the Skull and Bones secret society at Yale after the Second World War along with 16 other intelligence agencies. Those agencies all make up the Intelligence Community.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/what-we-do/members-of-the-ic

Trump doesn’t irritate anyone, not the FBI and not the CIA.

Russiagate was planned by British Intel and carried out with Trump’s knowledge and approval. Everyone knew about it. Every single member of the Trump entourage. They sacrificed Mannafort because somebody always gets to be the sacrificial lamb in these type of operations. Carter Page is a long time CIA asset who was a cut out in Moscow at Merrill Lynch and connected to Schrage and Harper. Papadoulos was a Hudson intern working on an Israeli gas project before he was sent to the U.K., and Rome to be part of the set up over there with Misfud, Halper and Downer.

The same company, Hakluyt is involved in the covid scam and linked directly to the Gates Foundation, DARPA, Dearborn, Pirbright and Wellcome Trust.

Trump is directly connected to the cryptocracy and to most powerful players in the entire world, including the Rockefeller and Rothschild family. Ivanka used to date Nate Rothschild. These families all go to the same schools, belong to the same clubs and they can all trace their lineage back generations to certain bloodlines in Europe. The cryptocracy are eugenicists. The central banks control policy through the CFR, Trilateral Commission, the UN, Rand, Chatham House and other think tanks, not the IC. The IC just carry out policy directives that are 50 years or more in the making.

The CIA is simply one agency of 17, and they operate at the directive of the presidency. Kennedy wanted to get rid of the entire cryptocracy and the illegal activity of the mafias within the government, not just the CIA.

Nobody gets near the presidency anymore unless they are a member of the cryptocracy. Which is why Bernie was never going to win any primary even though his poll numbers were high enough to beat everyone including Biden. But the DNC just change numbers at will, Charlotte. They don’t care what their base wants. It’s irrelevant.

The black box voting machines are functional in all the swing states and those numbers can be rigged or fixed every election cycle.

If Trump is escorted out of the WhiteHouse by the military after the election, it will all be an act.

Trump’s been using the same script since the 80’s and this presidency has been planned for decades by those who back Trump.

Trump is as much a part of the CIA and the establishment as Obama, Bush and Clinton. He’s not an outsider.

What you see on tv and read in the paper is fiction. The money trail is all that matters.

When Trump’s casino was failing, Rothschild money fronted by Wilbur Ross came to the rescue. Trump’s been laundering dirty money through Deutsche Bank for the cryptocracy for decades. So do all the developers in NY, including Silverstein.

Trump’s family money is invested in Blackrock and Blackrock is controlling the Fed’s bond purchases.

Here is the main reason we are dealing with Covid19:
https://needtoknow.news/2020/06/blackrock-authored-the-federal-reserves-bailout-plan-before-there-was-a-crisis/

NYT, WashPo, Atlantic etc write fiction when it comes to politics. The only news they ever write worth reading will be the financial news, which you will have to decipher using knowledge of the banks, hedge funds, asset managers, combined with the foreign policy objectives and the key players of the cryptocracy.

The establishment and the media enjoy having Trump as president, as does cable news and Hollywood. America needs a hero vs villain narrative. Look at their movies. White hats vs black hats. Cowboys vs Indians. Cops vs Robbers. Good vs evil. It’s childish and yet it’s accepted as a cultural norm.

Over the last century, our political and social landscape has been presented to us as the juxtaposition of two opposing creations. Left vs Right. White vs Black. Racists vs non racists. Democrats vs Republicans. Conservative vs Liberal. Communism vs Capitalism. It’s all constructed narratives not representative of reality or the people’s will. A chessboard with two players. They manipulate the public into investing their beliefs or emotions into one party or one person, when in reality, the policy decisions are made decades in advance behind closed doors.

Without the fake opposing narratives, nobody would vote. Nobody.

It’s all a one party system everywhere, Charlotte. In every country. It always has been.

Voting is around 35% in the US anyway, not 50% or 60%. The government inflates the numbers, as they do the economic figures. They downplay unemployment stats, which are currently at around 35%.

The election cycle is a farce. But you know that, right?

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 14, 2020 11:18 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Unfortunately, you’re probably correct. All these psychopathic machinations leads to neofeudalism, the slaughter of billions, and the extinction of humanity.

Simon
Simon
Sep 12, 2020 12:15 PM

Dr Morse has a testimonial from someone about Asthma.

38:11 – Barb – I am blessed to have healed what medical doctors labeled COPD/Chronic Asthma that started at age 29.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Sep 12, 2020 11:48 AM

Sic em Fang!

The remaining avaricious GP’s and new blood Yankee style doctors are promised wealth of their cousins – you go into medicine to make a million bucks quick! Not to cure millions quick.

Any old fashioned Doc with a rusty hypocratic oath would honestly treat any patient.

Not many such venerable critters remain or graduate Oe days from western private universities.

The fact that six months in basic Ppe is still not made available to dentists and GP’s and they are all being forced to let medical crises develop for the Great Free Trade Deals on Jan 1st

When plane loads of Yankee doctors will arrive like they did in 1917 and 1943 to save plucky little England again fairytale.

————-

That GP should be reported to the police and charged with falsifying patient records.
A report should be carried in the local papers so that other residents know.

Name and Shame.

Why haven’t you Ms Ilitha?

Tony
Tony
Sep 12, 2020 10:59 AM

A few days ago, Greater Manchester Mayor, Andy Burnham issued a statement on rising rates of covid19 in the area.He was particularly concerned that there had been 35 hospital admissions in the last few days, 10 in one borough alone. That borough is Tameside, and one of those 10 admissions was a good friend of mine. Except that my friend presented to hospital with the symptoms of severe food poisoning. But the hospital admitted him as a suspected covid 19 case and put him on the covid ward. He wasn’t happy about this, and made a nuisance of himself until they eventually moved him to a private room. He was discharged recently with a diagnosis of food poisoning.

A few observations by my friend:

The covid ward was pretty quiet.

The staff were sitting around doing nothing most of the time, with the patients left to their own devices.

When he was moved to the private room, he left the door open so that he could see what was happening on the ward (out of boredom), from where he continued to observe the staff sitting around doing nothing most of the time. The staff kept coming over and telling him to keep the door closed, eventually just slamming it shut rudely.

He was administered morphine for his severe stomach cramps. The nurse botched it, and injected into his skin, whence he discovered that he is allergic to morphine when his arm swelled up in an angry red rash. The nurse brought a duty doctor, who suggested administering future doses orally. My friend queried a possible allergic reaction in his mouth and throat, to which the doctor replied that they might well swell up. WTF?????

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 11:53 AM
Reply to  Tony

Andy Burnham, Socialist warrior who failed to vote against the Tories’ Welfare Bill.

Who was more angry about a banner protesting the 130,000 premature UK deaths caused by Conservative Government austerity policies than than the deaths themselves.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/these-are-the-184-labour-mps-who-didn-t-vote-against-the-tories-welfare-bill-10404831.html

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 12, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  Tony

Tony,

Yes, everything we are being told is lies or distortion. The media have continued, as they have throughout, to refer to ‘hospitalised coronavirus cases’ and, latterly, how these are going up again. What they deliberately fail to clarify is what ailment these patients were actually hospitalised for – and I would almost guarantee that none was because of ‘Covid19’.

You mention Greater Manchester. I was brought up in the Stockport area and still have family there, so I have been taking a particular interest in the Greater Manchester lock down. I have linked to this article from the Bolton News before but it is worth re-posting it here as it unintentionally elaborates on the nature of the lies or sheer incompetence behind the lock downs, locally and nationally.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/18696540.bolton-highest-rate-coronavirus-infection-uk/

To keep it simple, look at the Bolton figures. The same calculation principles apply to all local authority areas which are also detailed in the linked article. I remind everyone these statistics come from the PHE. The figures relate to two consecutive weeks in late August but the dates are not important. They supposedly show how the infection rate per 100,000 population has changed from one week to the next, purportedly going up in Bolton:

presented as: infection rate per 100,000 (total number of positives during week)

Week Y (previous) Week X

Bolton 76.5 (220) 17.4 (50)

Based on later media reports, I can add in a later week (Week Z) which was

92.2 (265)

It is because of this ‘increasing’ infection rate that Bolton has been labelled as having the worst infection record nationally and has been subjected to enhanced lock down.

But note that the relationship between total positives and infection rate per 100,000 is identical for all three weeks. The ‘total positives’ figure has simply been divided by 2.87. Why? Because the population of Bolton is 287,000. Nothing more, nothing less. The same principle is used for all the other listed national local authority areas.

So the Bolton lock down (and scrutiny of all other local authority areas nationally) is based on naive calculations which assume that every person in the area has been tested and do not take account of the fact that in reality, in order for weekly figures and area figures to be comparable, the calculation would have to factor in the number of people tested in those areas in the same time frame.

In short, increased testing is likely to lead to increased ‘positives’, and this is erroneously being interpreted as an increasing infection rate. Any areas being more ‘responsible’ and testing more than others are most likely going to automatically be identified as having a particular problem without the statistical justification. It is here in black and white. I wrote to Andy Burnham’s offices last Monday pointing this out.

p.s. sorry I can’t get the formatting of the figures above correct, but hopefully it doesn’t detract from my point.

Alan Lord
Alan Lord
Sep 12, 2020 10:33 AM

1 in 19.1 million chance of dying of covid https://youtu.be/FDDkY9z908M

Koba
Koba
Sep 12, 2020 9:31 AM

One thing my doctors hate is declaring this all a major hoax because they know I’m right

Dennis Brown
Dennis Brown
Sep 12, 2020 6:58 AM

Chinese -style totalitarianism with British characteristics!

Koba
Koba
Sep 12, 2020 9:32 AM
Reply to  Dennis Brown

China is a lot more free than you’ll ever know. Britain still has more cctv

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 7:53 AM
Reply to  Koba

They reinvented Social Credit, coming soon to you.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 12:13 AM
Reply to  Koba

It’s not any use in making the comparison. China’s citizens ONLY have freedom if they ‘obey’. And that’s what the West likes about China.

“China’s All-Seeing Eye” by Naomi Klein / https://app.box.com/s/83v40bzdvargdt1hpln4

That was the old Naomi Klein. The new Naomi Klein is in the enemy camp.

falcemartello
falcemartello
Sep 12, 2020 4:44 AM

Signora Ilitha
You being of the judicial .legal fraternity should take this to the next step and force discovery on the the books.
PUNTO UNO: There is enough data out as of this very day that could absolutely bury these vile entities. The Median age of death globally is 81 years of age. The vast majority of the deaths the victims had co morbidities IE( Diabetus type 1 and Type 2 Hypertension or Cardiac disease and last but not least docius in fondem obesity. These facts and data seem to allude the stenographers and the legacy media department. (They are doing it on purpose).
PUNTO DUE:The latest data show that this virus cannot even be compared to the common flu because it is less lethal.
PUNTO TRE: Belarus did not lockdown no social distancing and no forced facemasks. Their numbers are the same to all other countries with a lethality rate circa 0.01-0.05. This is pure raw data numbers that not with standing the fudging of the numbers it is less lethal then driving to your local supermarket.

POST SCRIPTUM; If one were to observe in all the five eye countries they have all legislated the health act emergency around the same time in March and their mandates are about to run out hence this coming week one will notice from Australia to USA and the three in between will be legislating extensions and proviso’s to their medical fascism.
DOCIUS IN FONDEM: stand up and get up stand up for ur rights to life. It worked in Serbia it will work all over. Stand up in front ur local parliaments.
QUI TACET CONSENTIR VIDETUR

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 7:59 AM
Reply to  falcemartello

Getting sunlight/Vit D is vital, especially for darker-skinned people.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/scientists-cant-explain-puzzling-lack-of-coronavirus-outbreaks-in-africa/

Also read up on tumeric; absorption is poor if not taken with black pepper. It is a nightmare for the pharma industry.

falcemartello
falcemartello
Sep 14, 2020 12:41 AM
Reply to  mgeo

@Mgeo
Metabolic health in general will be the death to modern day medicine and big pharma.
Fresh cayenne and chillies are also superb.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 14, 2020 8:12 AM
Reply to  falcemartello

Yes, metabolic health. Which includes resisting fashionable crap foods (overcoming childish urges), and medicines that merely suppress symptoms while harming the microbiome. Also, not overdoing the fear of germs. Almost every one of the covid regulations and guidelines is either proven useless or definitely harms you.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 12, 2020 4:15 AM

I didn’t know what they were. maybe got a few photos of the seals, and the dolphins…but the dive bombers were completely amazing. my son has got a sailing boat and he took us away for a bit..some of it was really nice, and then it got really stormy, and then we found an island to shelter behind. the wind was extremely strong, but these dive bombers were obviously quite used to it…

They got as high as they could on their wings..and just dived straight down as if they were a missile into the sea.

The birds were fishing, and so were we acually. we were getting a bit short of food.

We caught 7 pollocks, and ate them.

There are a lot of fish out there in The Atlantic Ocean (Celtic Sea)

They are our Fish – and our Birds

They are not all French, most of them are British and got Nothing to Do with the Americans

Get back to your own side of The Pond with your guns and your weapons and your israeli friends

Go one Do one – Take Your Missiles Back with you too

You are not wanted here. You are not doing any good.

Go back to America – and annoy your own continent, and leave our Aussies to do what they want to do.

You Americans have got nothing to do with us.

We disown you.

We don’t like you

Goodbye

Go Away

Tony

Dave Patterson
Dave Patterson
Sep 12, 2020 4:02 AM

‘Our General Practitioner has barricaded herself into her surgery and away from her patients since March.’ – this is one of the scariest parts of this whole crazy situation – doctors should know better!! – they are supposedly pretty intelligent people, and intelligent people should be the ‘check and verify’ type, i.e. when anyone says anything controversial (the sky is falling run and hide!!!!!!), they should be checking around to see if it is true before getting all panicky, and also be putting any such stories through the ‘does this pass the basic sniff tests??’ first. But evidently a very large percentage of our western English doctors, supposedly among the best qualified, and thus intelligent, in the world, allowed themselves to be more or less immediately controlled by the wild stories of the government about the Great New Plague Covid19!!!! and the endless media propaganda about this – and even after months of rock solid evidence proving this is all nonsense, are still basing their actions on what can now only be called hysterical fear rather than reason and knowledge. So if we can’t trust the frigging doctors anymore – who can we trust????

Jesper
Jesper
Sep 12, 2020 8:29 AM
Reply to  Dave Patterson

We got to drop the notion that educated people are Smart. They do as they are told like anyone else.

pumpkin seed
pumpkin seed
Sep 12, 2020 8:47 AM
Reply to  Jesper

Quite right. Many educated people were trained to not think, but simply to absorb and accept what they’re told by others who were similarly trained.
Freedom of thought is dangerous to profitable dogma.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 12, 2020 9:39 AM
Reply to  pumpkin seed

And lawyers seem to be the dumbest frogs in the box as they endlessly cower as rights are eroded/

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 12, 2020 6:20 PM

The cowardice that has flourished throughout the legal system thanks to Covidism is astounding. Not just wooly “rights” have been eroded, but all of the layers of civil authority and administrative prerogative were instantly bypassed (and neutralized) on a “warning” from the global “authority” WHO. With all these layers of jurisdiction went all checks and balances, and the justice system simply vanished in a cloud of dust, replaced by a singular controlling principle: Fear the Virus of Doom!!! All notions of due process, fair access to redress and open justice were sacrificed at the altar, while the “officers of the courts” looked on in masked approval.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Sep 12, 2020 9:04 AM
Reply to  Jesper

Smart enough to follow half a word from the boss.

“Antennae, Bernard, antennae!” — Yes, Minister.

Dave Patterson
Dave Patterson
Sep 12, 2020 10:49 AM
Reply to  Jesper

you can be ‘smart’ and do what you are told, or stupid and do what you are told, or either smart or stupid and tell those who think they can boss you around to f*** off. Courage and integrity aren’t qualities associated with smart or stupid. There’s lots of ‘smart’ people, doctors and scientists among them, pushing back hard against the lockdown BS.

Jesper
Jesper
Sep 13, 2020 12:53 PM
Reply to  Dave Patterson

I know that. And I think you understood my point since you seem to be a smart person.

dtoc
dtoc
Sep 12, 2020 1:33 PM
Reply to  Jesper

It’s called ‘Standard of Care’, and they are are required to adhere to it no matter the outcome. They are not allowed to ‘think outside the box’. Many years ago there was a survey/study in which oncologists were asked if they would use chemotherapy if they, themselves were diagnosed with cancer and/or if a family member was, would they recommend it, and the majority said no.

Jesper
Jesper
Sep 13, 2020 12:59 PM
Reply to  dtoc

Agreed. But there is always room to think outside the box if you want to. What then comes out action wise is a different story, dependent on ones character.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 12, 2020 6:12 PM
Reply to  Jesper

They have earned their credentials precisely because of their exceeding aptitude for following instructions. This is called conscientiousness, which is only a positive trait as long as the one giving orders is doing so in good faith.

More educated types tend to rate extremely high on the neuroticism scale, also, making them particularly susceptible to triggers of obsessive-compulsive or hypochondriac behavior patterns.

Doctors and lawyers tend to be the most committed adherents to the Tenets of Covidism.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 8:04 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Some also become too commited to back out of sudies or training, especially through debt.

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 1:03 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

They are even more committed to accumulating as much money as they can- they didn’t put all that time in medical school for nothing! A second house by the sea, some comfort- surely they deserve it for saving lives!

May Hem
May Hem
Sep 12, 2020 11:35 PM
Reply to  Jesper

I agree. I have found various shop assistants are sympathetic to the truth. In shops, I tell the assistants/cashiers that I am fed up with “all this social distancing nonsense”. When they agree, I tell them there is no virus. Often, they concur or at least do not disagree.

On the other hand, my highly educated friends of long standing have mostly swallowed all the media lies. One in particular, trained as a doctor and in many alternative therapies, supports the virus myth. Sad.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 12, 2020 9:39 AM
Reply to  Dave Patterson

My local clinic in South Australia literally nailed the doors shut for months and did all call via the phone, luckily I didn’t get a flare up of my Crohns disease, after months of that they insisted people wait in their cars or in the rain outside for another 2 months, now they still have a do not enter sign on the door. So called cases they dealt with – 0, the closest they will ever get is in the history books as they cringe at their lunacy.

The corona that causes most common colds in the world today was considered a ”novel” corona in 1968, did we close down the world and destroy it over that? Nope, that cold has made most of the global population immune to so called covid just like it did so called Sars1 and MERS

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 8:16 AM

SARS 1, MERS and Swine Flu (2 variants) were far more deadly to the infected. By killing their hosts, they died out faster.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 13, 2020 10:10 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Yep and we didn’t close down the world over any of them. Swine flu infected between 32 and 64 times more pple than this tiddler has

Aethelred
Aethelred
Sep 12, 2020 11:03 AM
Reply to  Dave Patterson

There are good doctors and bad doctors. It is not education that makes them so, but character.

May Hem
May Hem
Sep 12, 2020 11:37 PM
Reply to  Aethelred

I doubt that their medical education helps them become effective doctors, in most cases.

Arby
Arby
Sep 14, 2020 12:50 AM
Reply to  Dave Patterson

“they are supposedly pretty intelligent people” In a technocratic society, people are specialized into stupidity. The smartest people, not just in terms of what they know about their chosen fields, but also in terms of their ability to read and do math and write papers, have proven to be idiots. I had it out with my doctor, who, until this pandemic hoax, I thought was professional and caring. He changed my mind when I last visited and he shouted me down and called me a conspiracy theorist. In our argument – he couldn’t keep calm, so it can’t be described as a discussion – I quoted doctors and institutions and he didn’t refer to one doctor or institution. I offered to email him a link to Tony Fauci’s admission that deaths from covid were in line with those of a serious seasonal flu (and even that is bogus). He ignored me. I left his office feeling assaulted and, seeing how he forced me to wear a mask, which ‘only’ harms you, I ‘was’ assaulted.

Covid 19 is serving to reveal so many professional scam artists in the Rockefeller health care system and the alternative media. It’s scary. But it is what it is.

Fauci’s admission: “Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted” / https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7121221/
related: “The COVID CONtradiction: Why Only 6% Are Covid Deaths” by Rosanne Lindsay / https://www.naturalblaze.com/2020/08/the-covid-contradiction-why-only-6-are-covid-deaths.html

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 12, 2020 3:53 AM

The problem with socialized medicine is that your once trusted physician is now a card carrying affiliate member of the Stasi. You are well rid of your previous GP because by barricading himself in his office indicates that he is too freaking stupid to realize that covid-1984 is a hoax, as he actually believes that he might become “infected.” Maybe he should have a chat with Nancy Pelosi or Niall Ferguson. Their egregious flouting of their own rules not only shows their arrogance, but since they are too narcissistic ever actually to endanger their own precious bodily fluids and worthless lives, it proves that at upper middle management on that grand global pyramid of power, they know it’s a scam.

bob
bob
Sep 12, 2020 3:14 AM

Re: the rt-PCR test

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1304250461164314626

the UK is using 45 cycles for amplification purposes for the test which means every test will essentially be positive – suggests no standardisation of ‘testing’ across the planet which would presumably indicate why different countries have different ranges of positive tests – plus, of course, that a positive test does not mean you are infectious as the test can’t highlight degree of infection

https://twitter.com/LaurenceBettle/status/1304184589393551361

More evidence that this entire ‘thing’ is a scam

bob
bob
Sep 12, 2020 3:17 AM
Reply to  bob
aspnaz
aspnaz
Sep 12, 2020 2:16 AM

People are educated to have too much respect for doctors: it is a weakness. Doctors, like anybody else, have their fair share of incompetents, idiots, liars, cheats and scumbags. I always remind myself of Shipman as I walk into the doctor’s office: do not let yourself be conned into buying the latest fad they are pushing, just because they are doctors.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 12, 2020 3:25 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

I have massive respect for the doctors and nurses, who saved my wife’s life, when she got run over by a car on a dark night in November 2016, on her way to her Dance Class. The guy who ran over her, phoned me up and told me what had happened, and then the phone went dead, and I shouted upstairs to my son. I thought she was dead. we got there a minute later, and she was already in an ambulance….It just happenned to be passing when it happened. The police checked him, the driver of the car, and gave me all his details, but I didn’t blame him…he phoned me up to tell me what had happened.I phoned him back a week later – and told him she’s going to be O.K. Her leg smashed to bits in two places – but she will be fine – and she is.

It was not his fault. I didn’t want him to feel guilty in any way.

If he had been drunk or on drugs, then it would be a different matter.

but I didn’t care about any of that – the police had checked him, and I trust them

I just wanted my wife back.

She’s fine.

Tony

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 12, 2020 4:01 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Few people know that oncologists in the USA sell that toxic crap called chemo directly to their “clients” and mark up the already spectacular wholesale price 100%. I’d rather have a beer with a street drug dealer than an oncologist any day. John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie, two giants of eugenicist genocide, destroyed healing with their Flexner Report in 1910.

dtoc
dtoc
Sep 12, 2020 1:36 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

+1000! see my comment above regarding oncologists, I’ve seen so many lives destroyed by them, I often wonder how they sleep at night.

May Hem
May Hem
Sep 12, 2020 11:40 PM
Reply to  dtoc

The Cancer Industry is extremely profitable. The profiteers do not want any cures!

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 8:29 AM
Reply to  dtoc

The science has yet to identify (a) the mechanisms or bio-markers of certain illnesses (b) the mechanisms of certain established medicines. Many medicines are ineffective. Typically, a very expensive treatement for cancer only extends life by a couple of months.
– Prof. Chas Bountra, 2018

Here we are assuming the best-case scenario: no greed, mix-ups, sloppiness, resistant bacteria, complications, side effects, etc.

The jargon to obfuscate “adverse outomes” includes idiopathic, iatrogenic, cryptogenic, nosocomial and late-stage.

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

A few key points from wikipedia’s article on the Flexner Report

Flexner clearly doubted the scientific validity of all forms of medicine other than that based on scientific research, deeming any approach to medicine that did not advocate the use of treatments such as vaccines to prevent and cure illness as tantamount to quackery and charlatanism.

His perspective was that black doctors should only treat black patients and should serve roles subservient to white physicians.

The vision for medical education described in the Flexner Report narrowed medical schools’ interests to disease, and not on the system of health care or society’s health beyond disease. Preventive medicine and population health were not considered a responsibility of physicians, bifurcating “health” into two separate fields: scientific medicine and public health.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Sep 12, 2020 1:15 AM

Similar thing happening in Hong Kong:

The HK police have arrested 15 people for buying Apple Daily stock on the day that Jimmy Lai was arrested by the government. Jimmy Lai’s Apple Daily paper had supported the pro-democracy movement, so on the day he was arrested the now secret pro-democracy prople supported him by buying his stock. The price of the stock shot up and more than doubled in price.

The stock buyers are being arrested for market manipulation. The police are making these arrests under Beijing control, no court order, no formal procedure, this is a police decision. The HK SFC (financial regulator) has stated that it is not possible to accuse these people of market manipulation, as that is a very difficult charge to prove and the police do not have the necessary skills.

After the SFC comments, the police are now accussing the arrested people of shorting the stock – a different financial crime – but actually it is not possible to short Apple Daily stock, proving that the police have no idea of why they are arresting these people other than Beijing wants it to happen. We await the next story from the police who have obviously been told by Beijing to pick these people up.

The Beijing political masters trampling over HK laws to arrest their targets. HK legal system is already a joke, after the government declared that there is no separation of powers, the politicians can decide whether you win or lose your court case!

Lies, lies and more lies. Even your legal investment decisions can be a crime in the new HK. Many senior police in HK are British scum, brought up in democracy but now “just following orders” helping to implement authoritarianism.

Of course, the western couch communists will still support the Beijing authoritarians in the same way as they support the lock downs and the removal of peoples’ human rights. They are the enemy, leading the white trash rebellion.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 12, 2020 1:01 AM

It was my wife’s idea. I am quite happy living here in London. We are quite old now, but my wife still hasn’t received her pension. (Stolen by the UK Government)

She said lets move. I never really thought about it, before today. I assumed, as have live most of my life here – I am going to die here…

But she inspired me. She is a lovely girl.

So I suddenly in one moment took on her idea really seriously.

We both know the part of the country where we want to move to.

It may be O.K. going there on family holidays..but we haven’t actually lived there for more than a week or two – which we have mainly done in tents.

I do realise that such a move will be at least a bit traumatic for both of us..but if we don’t move now, then we never will…

What do you want girl? Do you still want to live in London

Or do you want to Move?

So, I thought we would rent a place for a week or two, where we might move to…

If we like it, we might stay, and not come back to London, except to collect our stuff

An empty house is worth far more, than it is with all my stuff clutterring it.

But the important thing is to live just for a bit, with your neighbours.

We have got lovely neighbours. They have tolerated us for many years…and sometimes we are quite loud

It will have to be a detached house, well insulated, with a large garden for our Grandchildren to Play in, and hopefully a Decent Shed…from where I can walk freely without any hassle in my naked feet to the sandy beach (I don’t like pebbles)

Otherwise, I am staying here.

I like it here in London, but she says its gone.

Its not the same.

We are Going

I do what she tells me – if its a good idea

We have had enough of 9/11 and all your Mask COVID Bullshit

We are real people, and live a real life.

We can’t tolerate this

http://b31.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/EVugc0_XsAgGGkW-1536×1024.jpeg

Tony

aspnaz
aspnaz
Sep 12, 2020 2:05 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

You are not alone. My wife and I have a timetable for leaving Hong Kong. We need to escape before it gets too depressing. A dead city gets depressing, like constantly staring at a corpse and remembering what life used to be like when that corpse was alive, at least nature reminds you every morning that there is plenty of reason to still enjoy life: although the unabomber’s love of nature made him hate society for its constant destruction of nature: No easy solutions.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 12, 2020 2:31 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

whilst I may have the most beautiful photographs, of what we did this summer, blimey – I had not really seen them, yet, and whilst I would normally post some of the best of them on facebook, I don’t do that any more because 75% of you are brainwashed morons..and you think it is going to be ok

It is not going to be ok. It is going to be really horrible. They are not going to look after you.

It will probablly get really cold..it could be the coldest winter since 1963 – that most people have never experienced. We had a coalman and he delivered us coal, to keep our home warm and with my brother, I built an igloo in my back garden, and had solid ice for the windows. it was surprisingly warm inside.

If this happens this winter to you soft southern pussies (probably a banned word) you are going to freeze and starve to death…

An anti-cyclone – means no wind – the wind turbines don’t work – they don’t produce an energy – and most of our coal fired power stations, have already closed down…Nuclear might work a bit, and so might gas powered electrcicity except The Americans have tried to shutdown gas supplies to Europe which includes the UK where we live.

The lights go out. Even if you have a gas supply, the central heating won’t work because the pump works on electricity, which you haven’t got…

Have you got any candles? have you got any torches? have you got any tinned food. have you got any basic camping gear?

Do you know how to survive, when all essential services get cut off, even the water cos its frozen in the pipes?

Do not expect it to get better than this.

They are trying to kill us.

Protect yourselves as best you can..

It’s going to get evil, and if you don’t you will starve to death.

Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock are not going to help you.

They couldn’t give a fuck about you.

This is the New Evil – and its coming for You

Prepare for it if you want to survive

Tony

Asymmetric
Asymmetric
Sep 12, 2020 12:47 AM

THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH: CLASSICAL VERSION. “I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:
To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art—if they desire to learn it—without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else.
I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.
I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.
Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.
What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about.
If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.” Breach of Oath,= breach of contract. Sack the quack.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 11, 2020 11:39 PM

As I understand it, the emergency powers granted around contagion and biological threat make governments virtually unaccountable for the consequences of their actions, and that’s why the Covid Lie is being perpetrated.

Whatever the cryptocracy have planned for us next, including editing our DNA to make us non natural products and therefore under law, disposable and possible possessions of the original patent holders, there may be limited or little legal recourse.

Emergency powers to martial law before the end of the year isn’t inconceivable.

It appears that the cryptocracy are currently setting the stage for an international incident; Israel-USA vs Iran-China, which could result in a limited strike or exchange, in order to enact martial law and divert from the financial crisis that is beginning to unfold.

“ As British General Wellington wrote, “martial law” is not law at all, but martial rule; it abolishes all law and substitutes for it the will of the military commander. Military personnel are not bound by constitutional restrictions requiring a warrant, and may enter and search homes at without judicial authorization or oversight. Indeed, civil courts would no longer be functioning to hear citizen complaints or to enforce their constitutional rights.”

Law isn’t my field of research, but I know that experts on civil liberties and constitutional law, like John Whitehead in the US, have been warning about what was on the horizon for some time and nobody took heed.

https://www.counterpunch.org/author/johnwhite1124/

https://www.rutherford.org/about/about_john_whitehead

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 12:43 AM
Reply to  Researcher

This articulates the fear I began to feel when Covid-1984 started its insidious crawl.

To instinctively know, deep down, that the ruling class were actively using (as a trojan horse) a known and ubiquitous virus in nature to do what they’ve always dreamed of doing, and getting away with it, because most people are either scientifically illiterate and/or intellectually lazy.

A window of opportunity for the ruling class – a gateway to hell for us. Made more nightmarish by the intense irritation that comes from watching the dystopia deepen daily, thanks exclusively to half the human race who seem to be bona-fide simpletons glued to their televisions.

Lulu
Lulu
Sep 12, 2020 5:24 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Spot on, Eyes Open!
You call those who are swallowing the propaganda “scientifically illiterate and/or intellectually lazy”. I might add “mathematically challenged”, because right from the very start, the hysteria and panic were obviously wildly out of whack with the statistics (even as inflated as they were back then).

I struggled for several weeks into this situation, to try to understand, characterise and label those who simply cannot or will not see what’s unfolding, and whose acceptance of the narrative and acquiesence with the controls are enabling the agenda to pick up speed. They’re taking all of us down with them…

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 13, 2020 10:20 AM
Reply to  Lulu

Braindead is my take. In Australia only one state has had most of the ”cases” but they are claiming a positive PCR and being in quarantine without any doctors seeing anyone and then a miraculous recovery from nothing 2 weeks later a ”case”. And claiming the 700 or so old sick people died from the virus when we know very well they died from being locked down.

Weirdly the Victorians think this means Dan Andrews is the best, in SA where I live 4 old people died, in Queensland 6, in WA 9, the ACT 3, Northern Territory none and Tasmania 18 yet over 700 in Victoria means Dan is the most competent. It’s an obscene derangement of the facts.

JonnyB
JonnyB
Sep 14, 2020 3:24 PM
Reply to  Lulu

Well they once they got away within 9/11 the rest is easy . Global warming and C02 increase would be good for the Planet , especially plants . Once people believe that a gas that makes up 0.04 pct of the atmosphere is casuing ‘ catastrophe’ then anything is possible . If people are scared of tiny warming then a virus is positively horrific ! Its not just a question of IQ , their brains have been washed beyond redemption : THAT is why Dr. s don’t see what they are doing , THAT is why the MiddleClass still believes what they are told .

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 12, 2020 1:14 AM
Reply to  Researcher

They don’t need hot warfare to do it.

I think the existence of the “Transition Integrity Project” shows that the deep-state apparatchiks expect the military to make their move under cover of the election process, and they are just trying to anticipate how to maintain seats at the table when USA, Inc., becomes a de jure military dictatorship.

This is much like how I think the Rockefeller’s 2010 “Scenarios” (including Lock Step) were a hint by the philanthropies that they had intel the military was going to make a move, and they needed to justify why the philanthropic set should be left a piece of the pie, and how they would be sure to prove themselves valuable to the junta.

I’m not saying hot warfare isn’t a distinct possibility, but I think the Herd’s supine acquiescence to thinly-veiled military command so far has demonstrated to both the military brass and the deep state that they don’t need to be all that rash, in order to roll out overt military rule. It’s looking like a cake-walk.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 8:40 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Delaying elections indefinitely on the grounds of safety, and getting pet thugs to riot demanding the elections, will provide the excuse for martial rule.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 13, 2020 4:04 PM
Reply to  mgeo

They are heavily promoting vote-by-mail. I got a mailer yesterday from the US Postal Service itself explaining in detail the how-to‘s. That means the federal government is very invested in the election going forward, and in particular by unconventional and unpredictable means.

They want a “transition” process, which is far more destabilizing than a delay, which would benefit the incumbent and maintain status quo. They want a protracted and contentious “vote-count.”

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 5:44 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Sure. But the generals and the IC still take their marching orders from the cryptocracy because Cash is King.

The TIP is definitely looking like Planned Scenarios. My thoughts exactly.

May Hem
May Hem
Sep 12, 2020 11:48 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Thanks Researcher. I find all your comments valuable, so I copy and keep them on file to re-read.

Kalen
Kalen
Sep 11, 2020 11:31 PM

COVID statistics is a sham. And it was from beginning sham by design of frantically passed everywhere in the world new catch-all classification rules COVID deaths and COVID cases led by CDC and GF bankrolled JHU biosecurity center.

Since March 21 all COVID statistics may be discarded to trash as they are including Most of all-causes deaths and most of all-disease cases.

What manipulation of COVID cases this article describes corresponds to COVID deaths manipulation where people while died on heart attack, stroke or cancer were PCR tested positive after death or not tested at all but simply were being placed in room with PCR positives or cared by a PCR positive or negative nurse also caring for COVID patients.

So according to this twisted, cruel logic purposefully discouraging denying vital medical care, author supposedly “exposed” herself and her daughter to COVID by seeking help for asthma in health clinic treating PCR tested positive people.

in Wuhan hospitals doctors admitted that half or more patients diagnosed with COVID actually acquired viral infection in hospital.

Excess deaths are mostly due to denying or discouraging medical care unrelated to phantom COVID.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Sep 11, 2020 11:13 PM

I was talking to a relative yesterday who lives in England. She’s a retired health worker who has some chronic issues that means she’s got to be really careful about contrating infections. The tale of her interactions with the health service sounds like a slapstick comedy — there’s a combination of ineperienced medial personnel (we’d call them ‘underqualified’), over-specialization, patronizing attitude towards seniors (that is, they don’t listen to people even if they were ‘in the trade’, they just run down the checklist regardless).

Its quite possible that a lot of people in the UK are experiencing a combination of a really inept government and a health service that’s been systematicall degraded and they’re unable to square their observations with the reality that they grew up with. This reality had a moderately competent, reasonable, government and a national treasure called the NHS. The resulting cognitive dissonance is creating a wealth of conspiracy theories as intellect tries in vain to join the dots. There’s just got to be a mastermind in a volcano (with cat) somewhere. The view from elsewhere is somewhat more rational. We’ve got a seriously weird and dysfunctional Federal government in the US but unlike the UK its not our only government, its just the one you hear about all the time. We’ve also got active state and local governments, and when you think that our state (California) is economically on a par with the UK then you get a feel for what local action can achieve when central governent ceases to function. Our response isn’t perfect but it is at least rational so the overall impact of the pandemic isn’t that serious, its like anything else that’s natural — heat wave, earthquakes, wldfires, whatever — you learn to live with it without it dominating your life.

Ultimately we’re all living not so much with a virus but with chronically poor choices at the ballot box. Although democracy isn’t quite as perfect as the cheerleaders make out it does nudge government in the direction that the electorate wants — provided the electorate is smart enough to not get conned during those short windows of opportunity called election campaigns. You lot got scammed last Christmas, choosing not Boris but rather rejecting that combination of Hitler, Stalin, Ghengis Khan and part time vegetable grower who was obviously going to aborgate your freedoms, drive the economy into the toilet and so on. How we ended up with the Orange One is the stuff of legend — or nightmares. Careless voting costs lives!

BTW — I like the UK’s well thought out ‘six persons’ rule. I grew up in a family of five children. I wonder who gets to live in the garden?

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Sep 13, 2020 7:15 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

“The resulting cognitive dissonance is creating a wealth of conspiracy theories as intellect tries in vain to join the dots. There’s just got to be a mastermind in a volcano (with cat) somewhere.”

It there weren’t very specific (and blatant) goals for all of this, I might agree, but it’s obvious that this Media-driven “pandemic” situation is being applied, all over the planet, to move the population toward a new (and horrible) level of digital surveillance and control… plus pharmaceutical interventions on a level that would have been unthinkable before. Oh, and not to mention the Eugenics obsession of one of the hoax’s figureheads. Incompetence Alibi was adopted and polished to perfection, by the CIA and interrelated Intelligence bodies, generations ago. But if they’re all so incompetent, why are they running the show?

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 8:48 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Voting has become a scripted scam. The candidates must be amenable to blackmail, and take their oath of allegiance to the ultra-rich. E.g., see happened to the graphic charges of sexual assault against Dominic Strauss-Khan after he dropped out of the presidential race in France.

Kathryn Barbour
Kathryn Barbour
Sep 11, 2020 11:04 PM

Behold the effect of tens of thousands of dollars dangled in front of the medical industrial system. Now you see what we have to live with in the U.S. Save yourselves while you can.

David Meredith
David Meredith
Sep 11, 2020 10:47 PM

This is truly shocking and sadly but completely believable in this current psychotic environment we find ourselves in due to this fairly harmless if at all truly existing “virus”. I think that health professionals are being told to write off as many illnesses or respiratory conditions as possible to covid-19. This is all about building the fear in the ignorant masses of sheeple who don’t realise what is actually going on here. Fear is the currency of control. I can 100% tell everyone, there is nothing to fear about this “virus” . Get on with normal life as much as possible. The more people ignore this spurious outrageous nonsense, the quicker we can get back our lives of normal liberty.

Emily Tock
Emily Tock
Sep 12, 2020 10:03 AM
Reply to  David Meredith

The fear successfully instilled is mind-boggling. I used to belong to a parents/education fb group in a large US city. I kept up the membership after I moved overseas. A parent who is well-educated, creative, and formerly rational is in a panic because they have to travel two states over to deal with a deceased (NOT from covid-19!) relative’s storage unit. They asked for travel advice, and was told variously to bring their own portable toilet, wear masks and gloves at all times, wipe down everything with bleach wipes in any potential hotel room and bring their own mattress, pillows, and bedding … or better yet, camp in a tent all the way … I did not provide any advice, even though I recently flew to the US and back to Europe to rescue my youngest from a masked all-day, twice daily temperature checked, twice weekly nasal swabbed, desks-in-perspex-carrels, strictly monitored socially distanced public school. I would have been tarred and feathered for such recklessness. My son is homeschooling with me this year.

New Yorker
New Yorker
Sep 12, 2020 5:17 PM
Reply to  David Meredith

This is the time for a people’s propaganda effort. Window is closing.

A fine UK gentleman suggested using the word “Collaborator”. We need posters, flyers, pamphlets, all in the street. Just paste your art here or elsewhere and everybody else, print and distribute.

This is an information war that can be won.

David Meredith
David Meredith
Sep 12, 2020 9:30 PM
Reply to  New Yorker

I agree.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 11, 2020 10:46 PM

Re: People cannot then have their worlds turned upside down by what they do not have . . .

The reality is that they can, they do, and it’s been going on for a long time. I recommend Roy Porter’s “Madness: A Brief History”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Act_1983
The Mental Health Act 1983 (c.20) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom which applies to people in England and Wales. It covers the reception, care and treatment of mentally disordered persons, the management of their property and other related matters. In particular, it provides the legislation by which people diagnosed with a mental disorder can be detained in hospital or police custody and have their disorder assessed or treated against their wishes, informally known as “sectioning”. Its use is reviewed and regulated by the Care Quality Commission. The Act was significantly amended by the Mental Health Act 2007.

History:
The Madhouses Act 1774 created a Commission of the Royal College of Physicians with powers to grant licences to premises housing “lunatics” in London; Justices of the Peace were given these powers elsewhere in England and Wales. Failure to gain a licence resulted in a hefty fine. Admission to a “madhouse” required certification signed by a doctor, and lists of detained residents became available for public inspection.[1] This Act was later considered ineffectual and was repealed by the Madhouses Act 1828, itself repealed shortly afterwards by the Madhouses Act 1832.[2] These Acts altered the composition of the Commission in several ways, such as including barristers in addition to doctors.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 12:15 PM

Someone who becomes depressed from lockdown, or suicidal even – I would say – is not experiencing a mental health issue. They are experiencing appropriate ‘mental distress’ in response to brutality. Their mental health is working as it should.

Lest we forget that prison is a punishment and solidarity confinement, a greater punishment still, for prisoners convicted of crimes.

The crime however, is lockdown itself and the sadistic incarceration of the healthy.

Governments, the media, politicians, blue tick commentariat, medical staff and the testers involved in this scam are guilty of crimes against humanity.

Mental health charities must not whitewash the emotional distress caused by lockdown by labelling it a ‘mental health’ issue. The problem is lockdown, and the various repressions/punishments connected.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 12, 2020 1:26 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

People generally need to be very cautious about phoning hotlines and contacting “mental health” professionals; and it’s got worse over the last few years. See some of the articles here:
https://www.madinamerica.com/?s=suicide+hotlines

For example:
https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/10/confidential-crisis-lines-covertly-trace-calls-send-police/
Most Confidential Crisis Lines Covertly Trace Calls, Send Police
By Rob Wipond
October 28, 2014

Most crisis lines across the US trace calls and send police to people’s homes if crisis line staff feel someone might be at risk of suicide, according to an article in Suicide and Life-Threatening Behavior, the official journal of the American Association of Suicidology. A new policy developed in 2012 has clarified and more firmly entrenched this longstanding practice, stated the article. Even two Samaritans call centers which historically had resisted the policy have now implemented the covert practice.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 1:32 PM

The Samaritans are a disgrace. They have a presence at DWP jobcentres for when benefits claimants are ‘sanctioned’. A euphemism which means someone’s been pushed into poverty. No money – nothing.

Instead of protesting the causes of depression (DWP sanctions) the Samaritans focus on the symptoms instead, thereby acquiescencing and endorsing brutality.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 13, 2020 3:05 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Someone who becomes depressed from lockdown, or suicidal even [is] experiencing appropriate ‘mental distress’ in response to brutality. Their mental health is working as it should.”

This is a feature of the lockdown-bottleneck. Only those hominids who can adjust to their lives in cages will be permitted to cross the threshold. Suicide is just one weeding mechanism at play on a mass scale.

Humans, valuing freedom and autonomy, are not going to be welcome in our prison-zoo future. It’s Unnatural Selection at work.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 13, 2020 7:23 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

You said what I was trying to say – thank you. I wish Off-Guardian could cover this topic.

Your summary is vitally important.

If it could be shortened further still, and made into posters.

‘Coronavirus’ is a concentration camp designed to eradicate those in society who the ruling class deems surplus to requirements.

‘Coronavirus’ is perhaps the single biggest covert government policy in history designed to induce suicide.

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 2:44 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

That’s fine because those who are conscious can get through isolation better than the brainwashed who will soon break down and then perish. Natural selection will ultimately override unnatural attempts, and the compromised humans will extinct themselves. Beware of collateral damage!

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 13, 2020 4:11 PM

When Europeans were erasing the native North American tribes, the fiercest warriors died first, precisely because of the bravery and commitment.

The credulous, meek follower-types lived a little longer, and accepted the smallpox-spiked blankets. They probably died believing they were being delivered into paradise by a savior-race of luminous angels.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 4:47 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Your black humor brightens my day Fact Checker.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 8:58 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Perhaps this is the first step towards an ideal society of slaves. First, you weed out (a) the rebels (b) the overly emotional or anxious.

We may be heading towards the society of HG Wells’ Time Machine. But first comes the chaos of Omega Man (the movie).

Point one
Point one
Sep 11, 2020 10:39 PM

‘807 Owen Benjamin dr andrew kauffman i discuss turpentine viruses broken medical system’

https://lbry.tv/@MoneyDontSleep:1/807-dr-andrew-kauffman-i-discuss-turpentine-viruses-and-the-broken-medical-system:7

This is a very refreshing discussion on medicine, Covid and standing up for your rights.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Sep 11, 2020 10:28 PM

Blimey O’Riley, they have helped this “virus” along every step of the way including acting dishonestly and in my view sneaky snidey to make this “virus” everything it obviously isnt.

I just been to the NHS website where on can book a test for use at home, now I am wondering if we were all to take a leaf out of the book of the African President and send them some samples of whatever we can get away with, cheese may be too odourous maybe a bit of banana? and video record the whole show, so when the tests come back positive which they have a very good chance of doing, then showing it to family and friends who are still not convinced may start to wake them up, as I am afraid if they don’t wake up soon, we are heading into a regime that will be much more dictorial than N Korea.

grab a test kit, find some food to use as the sample and see what happens, in an ideal world every fleet street journalist would have already done this and ran with the scoop that really isnt a scoop given that the test kits they use, say on the box itself they have to open, that they are not to use it for the very purposes they then go onto use it for. Bit like someone trying to inflate a car tyre with a bag of crisps.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 11, 2020 10:49 PM
Reply to  P R Ivy

Try pineapple juice. There are enzymes in pineapple.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 1:04 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

You don’t even need to use food. Why waste baked beans or porridge oats when sending it back unused will still provide a positive result?

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 9:10 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

Far beyond “health care’, the entire system incorporates “plausible deniability”. In this case, assuming they accede to your evidence, they can blame technician error, reagent contamination, etc. Some countries stopped testing awhile due to “contaminated kits”: no idea whether this refers to swabs. Imagine a contaminated swab put up your nose.

Apart from all that they are coercing and bribing to boost “cases”, without trying too hard to conceal this.

YeahBut
YeahBut
Sep 11, 2020 10:16 PM

For the last few weeks Sweden has been one of the few countries showing several regions with no cases, shown in green in the map below, and the number of such regions in Sweden has been growing
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LouisaJoyful
LouisaJoyful
Sep 11, 2020 9:56 PM

Sorry, bit off topic but I’m wondering if anyone else (I’m in England) is getting sporadically and momentarily blocked when accessing this site?

Mick
Mick
Sep 11, 2020 10:18 PM
Reply to  LouisaJoyful

you may find it is because the site is protected against ddos attacks, It just checks your browser to see if you are directing unwanted requests from a third party to their site.

Louisa White
Louisa White
Sep 12, 2020 7:04 AM
Reply to  Mick

Thanks Mick

New Yorker
New Yorker
Sep 12, 2020 5:28 PM
Reply to  Mick

Not “just” that, of course. The CDN used is effectively a monopoly now so that CDN, the company, also knows you from all the other sites that use this CDN. Since this is IP (your network address) based, cookie cleaning will not prevent the CDN used – Cloudflare – from associating accesses to this site to other sites that you visit.

https://www.cloudflare.com/about-overview/

“200 Million internet properties” – that is websites.
”200 cities in 100 countries” – that is everywhere.

Now the question I always wanted answered is why hot sites like OG that clearly collect dissenting views insist on using Google, Cloudflare, Twitter, Facebook beacons in their sites.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Sep 11, 2020 9:39 PM

If you’re a student of Cognitive Dissonance, and have 20 minutes to read the following comment-thread dialogue carefully, you may find it interesting, to say the least. Before the Internet, I was far more clueless than I could have guessed, regarding human psychology… a cluelessness our Owners would probably smirk at. I know better now, but I’m still surprised at the “fluidity” of things like “logic” and individual perceptions of Reality (the last seven or so comments in the thread, starting with “Anonymous 10 September 2020 at 18:40 After reading more than a few posts on your blog…”). This, I’m afraid, is what we’re up against:

:

http://cristobell.blogspot.com/2020/08/trafalgar-square-protesters-demand.html?showComment=1599759609895#c8279504528452191857

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 11, 2020 10:31 PM

People don’t want to accept they aren’t in the club and will never be part of that club.

Rosalinda is unaware that when a politician leaves an elected position, they retain power because they can work unencumbered from the constraints of political life, for the real power players behind the scenes, the cryptocracy. And that’s where the real profits begin.

I only needed to read her initial reply.

Most people are so heavily brainwashed they can’t conceive that they’ve never lived in a democracy and they are as irrelevant to the cryptocracy as a rotisserie chicken is to a supermarket owner. As far as the cryptocracy crime cabal that runs the world are concerned – and that includes their minions, the politicians and bureaucrats – people are a product, to be exploited and farmed for profit.

Until individuals (and society) understand the mindset of those in power, who have decided to relinquish themselves of morality, ethics or compassion for our fellow man, in favor of greed and power, they will continue to be passive and ignorant victims, unaware of the reality of the world we inhabit.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Sep 11, 2020 10:49 PM
Reply to  Researcher

“Until individuals (and society) understand the mindset of those in power…”

Absolutely: THAT, I feel, is the key. To estrange people from the cozy delusion that we are anything but cattle (or, yeah: rotisserie chickens) in the eyes of our self-described owners.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 11, 2020 11:50 PM

Cattle is the term in “silent weapons for quiet wars”, but chickens seems more appropriate…

They fatten us up with gmo feed, keep us constrained within imaginary borders and pump us full of vaccines and antibiotics.

Jean Wilson
Jean Wilson
Sep 13, 2020 7:24 AM
Reply to  Researcher

we’ve been doing this to animals for many years. karma is a bitch, isn’t he?

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Sep 13, 2020 10:19 AM
Reply to  Jean Wilson

“we’ve been doing this to animals for many years. karma is a bitch, isn’t he?”

1) Yeah, no, I draw a line between People and Animals; for me, it’s People first. Sorry. And 2): Nature provides a myriad examples of animals exploiting and/ or preying on other animals (and in some case quite hideously; look to the insect world for horrific egg-laying examples), so that invalidates the silly human theory that some kind of Natural Cosmic Uber-Awareness is “paying us back” via the logically-flawed notion called “karma”. My argument against this Covid-World-Order Hoax is not that it’s “morally wrong”, my point is: We are Many, They Are Few, Why the Fuck are we letting Them Get Away With This?

PS Just a few minutes of careful thought renders “Karma,” as a theory of justice, absurd, since it posits that, for example, all the kids who were blown to bits by drones in Iraq somehow deserved it? “It’s Karma!”-slingers need to adjust their metaphysics.

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 3:30 PM

We are Many, They Are Few, Why the Fuck are we letting Them Get Away With This?

I’m afraid Occam’s Razor (much as it is abused by lazy thinkers) applies here. The simple asnwer is that “we” are not many at all. A visit to your local large supermarket (try Tesco or Aldi in the UK) may serve as a somber reminder of the fact that it is the many that are turning the world into a prison farm.
The elites are just spooks and shades created by the blindness of the masses. Without the masses buying the shit on the shelves the elites are nothing. They will queue for that vaccine and they will queue for the implants as soon as they are “rolled out” because the herd animal is different in kind.

All they care about is prolonging their pampered existence and burying their head in the sand because life is too short and you have to grab what you can!

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Sep 13, 2020 11:27 PM

“The simple answer is that “we” are not many at all.”

Ach, indeed! When I say “we are many” the “we” I’m referring to aren’t The Enlightened. I merely mean “we” as in the Serfs in their many-billioned mass. Though: what is the proportion of Enlightened Dissident to Docile Minion? We can’t be sure. Maybe our sense of dissidence being overwhelmed by obedience is another illusion amplified by Media? I mean: how many people looking at me can tell exactly what I’m thinking? For all they know I’m a Kardashian fan, or follow football scores avidly. Whereas, in fact…

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Sep 13, 2020 11:32 PM

“I’m afraid Occam’s Razor (much as it is abused by lazy thinkers)…”

Yes, I roll my eyes at the ones who pull out Occam’s Razor to “prove” that a given conspiracy theory can’t be true because it’s too complicated and/or farfetched, whereas the agency granted the average sinister human with a team and a budget indicates that they can design a caper as fancy as they can afford to make it, “multiplying entities” as they see fit.

JonnyB
JonnyB
Sep 14, 2020 3:36 PM

‘the blindness of tyen masses ‘ .. I think you made Stevens point for him . I guess you mean ‘ we’ are not the masses but a minority on alternative blogs ?

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 14, 2020 9:14 AM

Another spin on karma says that your suffering and your tormentor’s cruelty will both be settled later: deferred accounting. More opium for the people.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Sep 14, 2020 6:11 PM
Reply to  mgeo

“More opium for the people.”

As long as the supply is Imaginary, it’s infinite…!

Eleanor Glab
Eleanor Glab
Sep 11, 2020 10:35 PM

Wow, fascinating. She’s comfortable believing the McCanns know more about the disappearance of their child than they admit and the circus that followed is both suspect and manufactured….but she won’t tolerate a fact based critique of Bill Gates? That does say a lot, sadly so.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Sep 11, 2020 10:49 PM
Reply to  Eleanor Glab

Bill is an important part of her life, apparently!

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 3:04 PM

It really is about belief in viral infection and an ineaduqacy of the human immune system, because “science has proven it”. This is all you need to know to understand. For the beleiver, arguing against the pandemic is like arguing that the earth is flat, but with a dangerous irresponsibility added. This sign of the inttellgine tperson to them is the one who follows “the science” without question.

They believe that we are opposed to the lockdown because we either are psychos who want everyone to die or are too conservative minded and refuse to surrender our individualistic desires for the greater good. The New Normal has us all “keeping each other safe” and anything that opposes that is “harmful”.
It really is about belief in viral infection and an inadequacy of the human immune system, because “science has proven it”. This is all you need to know to understand. For the beleiver, arguing against the pandemic is like arguing that the earth is flat, but with a dangerous irresponsibility added. This sign of the inttelligent person to them is the one who follows “the science” without question.

They believe that we are opposed to the lockdown because we either are psychos who want everyone to die or are too conservative minded and refuse to surrender our selfish individualistic desires for the greater good. The New Normal has us all “keeping each other safe” and anything that opposes that is “harmful”.

Walter Melon
Walter Melon
Sep 11, 2020 9:13 PM

From the CDC’s own facebook page:

“Cloth masks that are used to slow the spread of COVID-19 offer little protection against wildfire smoke. They do not catch small particles found in wildfire smoke that can harm your health.”

https://www.facebook.com/CDC/photos/a.184668026025/10158331126011026/?type=3

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Sep 11, 2020 10:35 PM
Reply to  Walter Melon

Cloth masks are used to turn small droplets into bigger ones so they don’t travel as far. They’re not for your protection, they’re to protect others from you.

Kalen
Kalen
Sep 11, 2020 11:02 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

The masks have been dismissed by WHO extensive studies during pandemics of SARS 1, MERS and Swine flu with much higher lethality .

Size of viruses in all cases of pandemics are 0.1-1micron. The Vast majority of masks may stop 20 microns or bigger droplets/particles. 99% of masks people are using are completely useless do not protect anybody from disease and in fact except for those vulnerable, they may be counterproductive, extend Pandemic instead of ending it by acquiring population immunity via natural inoculation faster.

From https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/

  1. There is increasing evidence that the SARS-2 coronavirus is transmitted, at least in indoor settings, not only by droplets but also by smaller aerosols. However, due to their large pore size and poor fit, cloth masks cannot filter out aerosols (see video analysis below): over 90% of aerosols penetrate or bypass the mask and fill a medium-sized room within minutes.
  2. The WHO admitted to the BBC that its June 2020 mask policy update was due not to new evidence but “political lobbying”: “We had been told by various sources WHO committee reviewing the evidence had not backed masks but they recommended them due to political lobbying. This point was put to WHO who did not deny.” (D. Cohen, BBC Medical Corresponent)
mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2020 9:25 AM
Reply to  Kalen

Plus they may cause respiratory, throat, mouth or skin (facial) illnesses if not changed every hour or 2. Now, which government has said anything about that?

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 12, 2020 12:51 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

So why didn’t you wear one in 2018 when flu was overwhelming hospitals in the UK and the US?

Gordo
Gordo
Sep 12, 2020 1:48 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

What utter tosh. Such ignorance is the lifeline of zombie mask promoters. What magic process are you envisioning? Masks do the opposite. They trap large droplets and promote aerosols.

Ted
Ted
Sep 12, 2020 4:29 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Alex Barenson posted the CDC notification on Twatter and several commenters replied with precisely the same language as “Martin Usher” uses here. coincidence? I don’t think so. paid troll.

In any case, I thought to myself that this claim is laughably absurd. Like knee slapping … stop it … I can’t breathe … laughable. Viruses travel in BIG water droplets (Seinfeld fans should recall the Big Salad episode here). Really? Interesting, So how do we explain the summer epidemics in all the lands where hard mask requirements are in place? Oh I know, the droplets shot out the sides of the damp masks and then split into billions of tiny cluster droplets which then found their way around the masks of all others wearing them and infected everyone within 100 meters distance. Whereby hapless innocents breathed the viruses in, since their already wet masks were the perfect media to attract these errant viral smart drops. Smart droplets brought to you by DARPA. Very clever this Sarscov2 virus.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Sep 12, 2020 7:20 PM
Reply to  Ted

Paid troll? Two things. One is I’ve never received any payment in money or kind for posting here or anywhere else. The other is that being retired I can afford to waste my time posting stuff — I’m not quite in the Jeff Bezos league but I am one of ‘them’, I don’t need the pittance that a 77th brigade would offer even if was legal for me to accept it.

If several people are saying the same thing then maybe it would be a good time to listen. We now know — courtesey of Bob Woodward — that our (US) official response to the virus is entirely bogus, it was driven entirely by a calculus of what would help re-elect Trump. Many of us suspected this based on a combination of common sense, Trump’s track record and the like but we are all floating in a sea of propaganda so its not easy to differentiate the various vocies. (That’s why you still hear Trump’s officials talk about the “Deep State”.) Remember, the stakes are huge — capturing the US government is the ultimate prize — so no expense will be spared, no amount of collateral damage too great in order to win.

We’ve just gone through our annual 9/11 ritual, the commemeration of lives lost in the 2001 attacks. While there are significant questions about these attacks and our response (and how the “Patriot Act” — a huge piece of legislation — just appeared out of the woodwork) the actual damage and lives lost pales in comparason to the damage and loss of life due to our botched response to Covid.

Aethelred
Aethelred
Sep 12, 2020 7:02 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

This is partly true. The masks are to protect the Nudgers and Resetters by instilling fear and submission in the populace.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 12, 2020 9:18 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Absolute rubbish, the are so few people in the world who might have got this cold virus you could walk or fly around the world endlessly and never meet anyone.

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 3:49 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

That’s right. As Arthur C Clarke wrote, sufficiently advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic!
The masks use smart fabric that collects tiny droplets and puts them together to form larger droplets which can then be re-swallowed! You can see it’s totally working because people aren’t dropping dead like flies! ONE UP FOR SCIENCE AND THE WAR ON DEATH!

Mike b
Mike b
Sep 11, 2020 9:11 PM

Hmmmm i wonder where this will go?
mandatory injections?
Kids removed if not?
no job if not?
I wonder.
It has momentum to either go the whole hog or as usual just fizzle out.
Some People know whats happening dont they.
Yes thats you, me, maybe some of them.
Its pretty obvious now and has been for a while.
Thats the trouble i think, keeping us waiting, on the fence, not knowing fully how far will they go
how far will we go?
what will we do to resist this falacy?
Anything?
Nothing?
Non violent talky talky resistance then give up and capitulate?
violent resistance with the destruction of lives that WILL follow.
violent revolution is not easy or pleasant, never has been.
Can you see us fighting an enemy like during ww2?
As a resistance?
Will it go that far?
Should it?
Could it?
Thoughts anybody?

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 11, 2020 10:40 PM
Reply to  Mike b

Has to go all the way. The vaccine is essentially a death sentence.

The manufacturing is going forward. The merging of tech and the security state has already occurred.

We are coming to a point of no return soon.

Alan Lord
Alan Lord
Sep 12, 2020 11:04 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Just a 1 in 19.1 million chance of dying from covid, but dont tell the sheeple https://youtu.be/FDDkY9z908M

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 5:02 AM
Reply to  Alan Lord

Holy hell. One in 19.1 million. Haha! Unbelievable, isn’t it?

If only actuaries were running cable news instead of spooks.

People are so addicted to fear porn.

David Meredith
David Meredith
Sep 11, 2020 10:56 PM
Reply to  Mike b

Lots of thoughts! The only way we can sensibly overcome this coming health dictatorship, is mass civil disobedience. The main problem is the potential for mandatory vaccination and health pass certificates. Potentially anyone who refuses will be effectively excluded from functioning in society and will be considered a bio-hazard.There are a lot of people who know what is going on and see the bigger picture. Hopefully some influential voices will be heard and enough people of some or high influence will be able to block any such moves. Informed Consent without any consequential discrimination is the key.

Gerry
Gerry
Sep 11, 2020 11:46 PM
Reply to  Mike b

i have a tool i use for weeding and slashing briars; it is crude and primitive but has a nice balance in the hand.
Anybody that threatens my children will see how it works on flesh, and I will have no remorse.

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 4:00 PM
Reply to  Gerry

Nobody will come for your kids. They make it so you take your kids to them.

Happy Clapper Slave
Happy Clapper Slave
Sep 13, 2020 3:57 PM
Reply to  Mike b

Possibly no passport and not eligible for employment in many sectors.

ww2 was a setup to kick off the NWO and this isn’t the 1900s anymore- they have fighter jets and “we” have pitch forks. The only thing you can do is spread the word but you have to do it very intelligently.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 11, 2020 8:49 PM

BoJo lunacy: “You may not know whether you are infected or not but you know whether you are infections or not… and that gives you a kind of passport… a freedom to mingle with everybody else who is similarly not infections in a way that is currently impossible.”

Read it twice for a double dose of lunacy. It makes no sense.

They have got rid of Parliament.
They have silenced dissenting doctors.
They listen only to experts who agree.
And the militaree.

If Britain’s cabinet is taking direction from the military, then give me the Good Soldier Švejk because we are in a chapter of Catch 22. Lunatics welcome to Asylum.

UK Column News – 11th September 2020
PART ONE
Mike Robinson and Patrick Henningsen

We’re being guided by the science, says Patrick Henningsen with sarcasm.
Six-pack Boris say venues must request contact details and keep them for 21 days under new rules.
UKC: What happens if people decline the request, old chap?
Bojo: Venues get fined if they don’t make sure their premises are Covid Secure. “We’ll close places faster and use Covid Secure Marshalls to ensure social distancing, and set up a register of Environmental Health Officers.”

Me: This is not Boris Johnson. The improvisational and quite brilliant journalist is forcing himself to appear alive. His batteries are low.

UKC’s Patrick Henningsen: Covid Secure sounds like corporate policy, a set of boxes you must tick. It is not Covid Safe, which would indicate some medical basis. What we have instead is fascist, corporatist speak.
These Marshalls will eventually become mask police. For now they do not have police powers. Cornwall has been piloting these Marshalls since July. They check with businesses and offer assistance.

UKC’s Mike Robinson: As deaths go to zero it’s time for government to ramp up Covid Secure measures… We have to stop a second lockdown by imposing a second lockdown.

VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE
A backlash is coming from the remnants of the Conservative Party, led by Sir Charles Walker, vice chair of the 1922 Committee: He attacked powers to restrict civil liberties without recourse to Parliament. These powers are up for review at the end of Sep/early Oct. He says he will vote to curtail them.

Bojo faces pushback, according to the Daily Telegraph, but Johnson has a strong majority (that huge majority was suspicious at the time there were allegations that someone had manipulated the general election).

Henningsen: Opposition from the left is lacking. At most they want to debate the degree of lockdown or testing or PPE. Labour is totally on board with this agenda.
Mike Robinson: Bojo is sidelining Parliament at every opportunity.

OPERATION MOON LANDING
The government has found 100 billion pounds, which is more than 2/3 of the NHS annual budget. At the heart of Moonshot is a 20 minute test that would allow venues to test people on the day.
UK Covid Impresario Matt Hancock:

“Workplaces could open to all those who test negative that morning.”

“Anyone isolating because they are a contact or quarantining after traveling abroad could be tested and released.”

“Hands, Face, Space. If you have symptoms, get a test.”

UKC’s Henningsen: What happens if you return from travel and test positive? You will be detained. China is not even this extreme.

UKC’s Robinson: This is bio surveillance. It is a test every day you go to work. This leads to an immunity passport. The UK is not talking about this openly. Hancock has pushed this through without cabinet support. He talks of a Manhattan Project type effort. WW2 metaphor. This is a sign of Dominic Cummings’ involvement. But it is also desperation. The government is so deep in the Covid farce it has to cover its arse.

Me: Both sides of the arse, because both sides are talking. The test doesn’t work and cases are no indication of illness.

DNAnudge KERCHING
Corporations are preparing to line their pockets. They sell bracelets that record test results but those results currently take 90 minutes.

Career Opportunities for Coroni Fans
Covid-19 Community Researchers – flexible work for one of “the UK’s best known brands”. The company is not named but the job is nationwide. You will collect swabs and other stuff.
Pay is 130 pounds a day plus travel, flexible shifts, online training, contract to March 2021 and may be extended.

UKC’s Henningsen: You are not a test Nazi, you are a Covid researcher. How nice.

ATTACKS ON CHINA
LA reveals Covid was around in Dec 2019, thus China must have known, thus China didn’t tell us, thus we must attack China.
UKC: It is not known for sure where Covid started. Did it begin in China and it covered up, or was it already doing the rounds in Europe long before it showed up in China.

Cambridge University is researching the different strains and says the outbreak in China was a B strain.. and the U.S. has the A strain That would suggest the virus began in the U.S. and was spread to china. Europe has strain C.

SPECIAL VITAMIN D
The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry finds that specific types of vitamin D significantly reduce the risk of needing intensive care.

Surprise, surprise, the Corporatist Media is on hand to debunk the cheap option.

The Print, Sep 9, 2020: Vitamin D supplement calcifediol could reduce death risk in Covid patients, Spanish study says.

Immediately the press looked for experts to attack the study – ignoring the fact that the study was conducted by experts. But vitamin D is cheap and not as profitable as a vaccine.

UKC’s Henningsen: We have discovered that vitamin D is essential for older people as the T-cell response declines and this cheap and natural solution provides immunity. Bill Gates and the profiteers don’t want to hear about natural immunity. Everything has to come out of the barrel of a syringe.

ECONOMY ROLLS OVER
The BBC claims the economy jumps 6.6% in July. Given that the economy was flat-lining, you cannot measure a jump. It is meaningless.

Teenage scribbler Thomas Pugh of Capital Economics pointed out that the Pub and Hospitality sector jumped 140% in July.

UKC’s Robinson: The economy is still 12% below where it was. It is heading for about 7 million unemployed.

UKC’s Henningsen: What about Christmas? Social distancing and the Rule of Six cannot help the high street. The office economy, all the businesses that serve office workers, are now just a big economic hole.

JULIAN ASSANGE & BENT JUDGES
Hearing began on Monday at the Old Bailey in London. John Pilger was there to speak. “It is our responsibility to stand by a true journalist whose courage should be an inspiration to all of us.” — LetMeLook.TV provided pictures

UKC’s Henningsen: The U.S. has recycled its charges against Chelsea Manning with no basis in fact. Just a whole, new, made up set of indictments.

BARAITSER, BUZZED
Covid in da house, leading magistrate Baraitsa to suspend hearings when a lawyer got Coroni.

UKC’s Henningsen: this Covid interruption comes just as criminal trials and in-person hearings have recommenced. Is it deliberate: these are not sick people, these are simply testing positive in a very random test. There is an agenda to end public trials.

Brian Leveson was the corrupt judge who investigated the sham phone-tapping case involving newspapers. Now he wants to digitize courts… and policy he was already pursuing before Covid came along to help his efforts.

COLLAPSE OF DEMOCRACY
UK Parliament is non functional, leaving the Internal Market Bill in chaos.
The bill overrides key parts of Brexit agreement but the UK government is pushing ahead with bill proposed in July. The bill ensues trade between the four countries to replace their former agreements with the EU.

UKC: The law going through parliament is in breach of international law — but the government insists Parliament is sovereign and can do what it likes. Yet Parliament is not functioning and the government avoids parliament.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 11, 2020 8:46 PM

UK Column News – 11th September 2020
PART TWO

DEMOCRACY IS A DEEP FAKE
The Irish Tánaiste insists Westminster must honour its existing deals with Europe. Leo Varadkar is backing up the its demand by throwing huge money at Irish companies — 9,000 euro per hired employee to help manage the customs agreements.
UKC: Ireland may be feinting. Many participants never wanted UK to leave and have an incentive to pretend the sky is falling.

UK PM Bojo is threatening no-deal Brexit. The much touted need for an Ireland-Northern Ireland deal that occupied the BBC for 18 months has faded away. The border is likely to be the Irish sea.

NAVANLY NOVICHUMP
The new Novichok is like Covid. Its novi, it’s deadlier, but it still doesn’t kill many people.

Minor Russian opposition figure Alexei Navalny is alive. The world’s deadliest chemical weapon spared him, just like it spare the Skripals, their cat and their hamsters.

Novichok was a USSR weapon that was decommissioned after the end of the USSR. The only country that reconstituted Novichok was the USA. Germany has handed the Navalny Novichump to the OPCW in the Hague. Russia says, as it has before, that it would like to see the alleged poison.

Bellingcat has an in-house position within legendary German news magazine Der Spiegel, destroying Spiegel’s venerable reputation, though there are lots of CIA- and Soros-funded journalism awards winging their way to underwear salesman Elliot Bellingcat Higgins for his low grade attempts at pretending to be a journalist.
Belling cat says: the Rusha done it.

SPECTACLES
Have you noticed that lots of politicians are wearing glasses to look more serious and intelligent?

They are trying to offset the fact that Event Covid has proven no politician deserves respect. They are all a literally baboons. Oh, oh, coo-coo-ca-choo

UK Column News – 11th September 2020 https://youtu.be/91DjBGT0zHA

Gerallt Pantycagal
Gerallt Pantycagal
Sep 11, 2020 8:32 PM

I take heart from the fact that despite the billions spent on trying to pull off this illusion, people can see through it – and no money has been spent on our perception.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 11, 2020 9:59 PM

After watching a video interview with Sucharit Bhakdi shortly after Covid-1984 began I knew we were being played.

JoeC
JoeC
Sep 12, 2020 4:46 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

After Tom Hanks tested positive when there were only 20,000 or so cases worldwide, it confirmed to me it was bullshit.