WATCH: Justice Rising – 9/11 Truth Conference Day 1
JUSTICE FRIDAY – The first of three days of video conferences and talks on the key topics of 9/11 truth focuses on current legal challenges and court decisions.
Timecodes:
- 0:00:00 – The Long Road to Justice, Richard Gage AIA
- 0:56:00 – A UK Family Fights for Truth, Matt Campbell and Nick Stanage
- 1:45:00 – Closing in on NIST with Ted Walter, Tony Szamboti, and Mick Harrison
- 2:45:00 – The Expanding Legal Front | David Meiswinkle, Mick Harrison, Barbara Honegger
The concluding two days – Science Saturday and Big Picture Sunday – will be livestreamed on the Architects and Engineers youtube channel 3pm-6pm EST (Sat) and 6pm-9pm (Sun). We’ll also be posting the completed videos here for people around the world in different timezones.
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i’ve believed for a while now that WTC 7 is the lynch pin. it’s the needle in the haystack. no planes involved, so a large number of variables are removed. no need to prove or disprove whether it was a plane or a drone. no questions about how a plane damaged the structural integrity of building. no questions about victims or hijackers. i think the UAF report, if nothing else, proves the NIST report is wrong. burning office furniture/furnishings cannot bring down a 47 story building with a steel frame. this alone says the official government excuse is wrong. WTC 7 was quite likely the real target on 9/11. the rest was a diversion or smoke screen. get everybody looking in another direction. WTC 7 the only event without victims. no loss of human life, so less attention from the public. no first responders looking for victims. something was in… Read more Ā»
WTC-7 was a Trojan Horse gift to the truthers not really a smoking gun, Leo. Just as no one died in WTC-7 the same can easily apply for the Twin Towers. They TOLD us people died but there’s zero evidence that they did and quite a lot of evidence against anyone dying. https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.html The perps wanted us completely focused on the BUILDINGS not the PLANES because faked planes means faked deaths and they want our noses right away from fakery of death of any kind. If they faked those 265 deaths people might start questioning then why not the other 2,735? 9/11 was Trauma-based Mind Control Psychological Operation in the form of a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist exercise comprising numerous smaller exercises and drills (many of which they even tell us about.) See my comment on Patrick’s comment below yours for more. 60 aerospace engineers are signed onto A&E for Truth’s… Read more Ā»
It’s taken so long for this to come round and and I personally became exhausted after a few years of arguing with people. Specifically, those I most identified with, “the left.” It was the left gatekeepers Chomsky, Counterpunch, so many of them who were the most effective in sustaining the 9/11 narrative. Even while not knowing what was coming, and I certainly didn’t see this clear and present danger, I used to argue that they would consolidate their power and then grab for more. It didn’t take any genius to figure that out but there it is. And here it is right in our face again. And just as the usual suspects are once again the perpetrators so once again the gatekeepers are the usual suspects. If we stop dancing the music will stop so we have to dance on.
Unfortunately, the truth still isn’t being told Patrick. Two massive lies have been told about 9/11. 9/11 was a terrorist attack where 3,000 people were killed and 6,000 were injured. 9/11 was an “inside job” where 3,000 people were killed and 6,000 were injured. We actually know right off the bat that the claim for 3,000 dead is a lie because the planes were faked so those deaths were faked so 265 people didn’t die in planes thus the number immediately needs to drop to 2,735. And then we might ask the question well, if those 265 deaths were faked what about the other 2,735? In fact, the evidence supports all deaths being faked as well as all injury … which isn’t to say no one died or was injured, however, there is no evidence of it while there is clear evidence of fakery. 9/11 wasn’t the work of terrorist… Read more Ā»
These and all others involved in the Project of New American Century should be rounded up, jailed, and prosecuted for crimes against humanity: Former directors and staff John R. Bolton, Director, former Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs (2001-2005) and United States Ambassador to the United Nations (2005-2006), former National Security Advisor of the United States (2018-2019), former senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Daniel McKivergan, Deputy Director Christopher Maletz, former Assistant Director Richard N. Perle, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Global Strategic Affairs under the Reagan administration, an AEI associate, and member (and former chairman) of the Defense Policy Board Signatories to Statement of Principles Elliott Abrams, National Security Advisor (2005-2009) Gary Bauer William J. Bennett John Ellis “Jeb” Bush, Governor of Florida (1999-2007) Dick Cheney Vice President of the United States (2001-2009) Eliot A. Cohen Counselor of State Department (2007-2009)… Read more Ā»
If only it was just them. Itās not. They are the tip of the iceberg.
You have to start somewhere……
Charlotte, The PNAC document was truther-targeted propaganda to make truthers believe the perps were so evil they would gladly sacrifice 3,000 US citizens in the buildings. Of course, it’s not about whether they would or wouldn’t be so evil – they sacrifice their soldiers no problem at all – it’s about MO. 9/11 was a psyop in the form of a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise comprising many smaller exercises and drills many of which they informed us of. It’s not in the MO of psyops to kill people for real when you don’t want them dead and killing all those people when you actually need to involve so many emergency response personnel, reporters, etc to carry off the psyop just would not work in any shape or form. 9/11 was a PSYOP, it wasn’t some half-arsed nonsense where they faked half and did half for real. They wanted the buildings… Read more Ā»
This is nut job stuff.
9/11 was a controlled demolition of the Towers killing thousands giving justification for initiating a War on Terror.
Nut job? They TOLD us 3,000 people died and 6,000 were injured, Charlotte. They TOLD us that. They certainly DID NOT SHOW us that though. God no! Check out the visuals that allegedly represent 3,000 dead and 6,000 injured. What a complete joke! They also told us that 19 terrorists armed with boxcutters hijacked planes, crashing them into planes which collapsed to the ground from fires. They DID NOT SHOW us anything of the sort though, did they? Why do you so fervently believe in 3,000 dead and 6,000 injured from the people who told you such big fat lies about buildings and planes? Why? Why not do some investigation? You don’t believe in real planes do you? So automatically you know that the 265 people they TOLD us died in planes didn’t. Why would you believe anything at all from these people who have just told one lie after… Read more Ā»
More than 3000 died on 9/11 and millions more died because of it.
You’re simply repeating what the perps told you, Charlotte. Why do you repeat the perps on the deaths but not on how the buildings came down. Why do believe the perps when they tell you that 3,000 people died but you don’t believe them when they tell you terrorists hijacked planes and buildings came down by fire.
I don’t understand. Why do you believe some things they tell you but not others. What is your basis of distinction?
I thought we ended this schmucky discussion weeks ago.
There’s no discussion, Charlotte, without meaningful exchanges. So far, you’ve simply put forward the statement that 3,000 people died as if it’s axiomatic. Everything we are ever told by the power elite needs to be subjected to scrutiny, it cannot ever be treated as axiomatic. The real crime on 9/11 – or rather the alleged real crime – was the murder of 3,000 people, it wasn’t the lie that the buildings came down by fire when it was really controlled demolition and it wasn’t the lie that terrorists hijacked four planes and crashed them into buildings. THE REAL CRIME – OR RATHER THE ALLEGED REAL CRIME – WAS THE MURDER OF 3,000 PEOPLE. Why do you think it is that no investigation of the real crime has been conducted, Charlotte, when we know right off the bat that 265 people didn’t die in planes because the planes were faked? Why… Read more Ā»
Two pilots join SGT Report to discuss the supposed civilian planes that were allegedly hijacked on 9/11.
Doug Green started as an airforce air traffic controller, flew fighters and C130s and has captained 747s for UPS and Dan Hanley is the director of a global grassroots effort called ā9/11 Pilot Whistleblowersā at 911pilots.org.
This is a serious question: has anybody seen a video of the second plane hit the twin tower that not only looks realistic but you can actually see a real plane? I have been through every possible video out there. The live videos all have the tower between the plane and the camera. You see a silhouette approaching the tower at a speed and angle too fast for a passenger plane. It goes behine the tower, then explosion. The after-the-fact videos are all cartoon-like and show the towers eating the planes as if they were ghosts. There’s a guy on youtube who showed how easy it was to edit videos with the software at the time to add a silhouette. Even “live” reporting has a minute or two delay. Personally I don’t think there were any planes at the towers. There were some people planted in the crowd spreading rumours… Read more Ā»
Here’s one about the ‘planes‘
Where are the loved ones of the plane victims, MC? Where are they? Why aren’t they showing us the loved ones of the plane victims, only the loved ones of the building victims?
I did not like the crap that Barbara Honegger was spewing and I became alarmed after listening to people attach the reports and analyses of the Anthrax attacks to the 9/11 attacks. (I’m not saying that I reject the proposition that the two are connected. However…) I’ve learned a thing or two because of the covid 19 pandemic hoax and when I hear people talk about viruses and bioweapons my ears prick up and I don’t usually like what I hear. That’s the case here.
Ol’ Barbara like so many others in the 9/11 truth movement is controlled opposition. She had me totally fooled I must say but when you look at her background … yeah, right. https://11september.eu/en/barbara-honegger/ Barbara Honegger, M.S. has served in high-level positions in the U.S. Government, including White House Policy Analyst, Special Assistant to the Assistant to the President, and Director of the Attorney Generalās Gender Discrimination Law Review at the Dept. of Justice, where she was the highest-ranking official for womenās rights in the federal government. From 1995 to 2011, Ms. Honegger served as Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School, the premiere science, technology and national security affairs graduate research university of the U.S. Department of Defense. The anthrax attacks were a hoax just like 9/11 just like COVID-19 just like so many other events. So yeah they’re very connected – they’re both psyops with very similar… Read more Ā»
Acknowledged. I had a look, after acknowledging, at Occam’s Razor. I’ve looked at this website before but never bookmarked it. There would have been a reason. The author – yourself it appears – thinks that deaths and injuries were faked on 9/11. Oh dear!
Petra is part of the WEF – UN sustainability NGO network, including one called Beyond Zero Emissions in Australia. Beyond Zero Emissions partners with ICLEI which was created as a non-governmental spin-off by the United Nations in 1990 to implement Agenda 21 locally across the world. It is a membership organization for more than 8,000 cities worldwide. ICLEI partners with the new Global Resilient Cities Network (GRCN) and the 100 Resilient Cities Program. The new GRCN started operations on September 1st, 2019. One month before event 201. GRCN is funded and founded by the Rockefeller Foundation. https://www.rockpa.org/project/global-resilient-cities-network/ Petraās been a member of BeyondZero Emissions since 2009. Her 9-11 disinformation site is probably paid for indirectly by the Department of Defense, who award āStrategic policy grants boosting Australiaās national securityā at places including Macquarie University, where Petra was/is employed. Other recipients of these grants include Chatham House, Rand and SAGE. https://www.miragenews.com/strategic-policy-grants-boosting-australia-s-national-security/… Read more Ā»
I believe she is the same person whose OG article (!) about gatekeepers I had issues with. See here:
“Gatekeepers” by Petra Liverani / https://arrby.wordpress.com/2015/02/10/gatekeepers/
Good call. You spotted it straight away, as did I.
Thousands of people were harmed during and after 9-11 from the toxic smoke alone, and have since died as a result. At least a million more died in the aftermath of the endless wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Syria.
The trauma and damage is untold.
Thousands of people were harmed during and after 9-11 from the toxic smoke alone. That’s what they told us, Researcher, they certainly told us that. I’ve issued a $5,000 challenge for those who believe in 3,000 dead and 6,000 injured in the PSYOP that was 9/11 and no one has responded even though the challenger can choose their own judge from a relevant profession. If you want to give yourself any credibility in your ludicrous claims against me, Researcher, why don’t you respond to my challenge? All that’s required are 10 points that favour real death and injury over staged. So simple, no? We’ve been utterly bombarded with all the tragic stories about the deaths of those poor people so it should be a snack to get 10 points, no? Much easier presumably than it was for me to get my 10 points favouring staged death and injury over real… Read more Ā»
I just saw this comment now. Hilarious, Arby! I have gone 25 rounds of emails (that is over 50 in total) trying to get Noam to see that he indulges in logical fallacy in his argument but he won’t have it. This is Noam Chomsky’s argument, Arby, and he will not budge from it. If the Bush administration had been responsible for 9/11 they would have chosen Iraqi terrorists rather than Saudi. I explained to him that that his argument was in the form of the logical fallacy, argumentum ad speculum or hypothesis contrary to fact but he wouldn’t have it. Astounding! Then I just tried to explain it was speculative – you know what he came back with? “So if I say, ‘If I throw this ball in the air it will come down” that’s speculative?” I explained to him that it’s not speculation when you’re talking about stuff… Read more Ā»
good work
OK, let’s do some Socratic questioning, Arby.
— Why do we only see loved ones of the building victims not the plane victims?
— Why are we bombarded with building experts but ZERO plane experts? Yes, we had John Lear at the beginning and a military aircraft accident investigator and a few others but these days WHERE ARE THE PLANE EXPERTS? Why are those prominently talking about the planes such as David Chandler complete non-experts on the subject?
Any ideas?
At the Justice Rising conference, the subject of this page, I found Matt Campbell’s talk very illuminating. If you listen to nothing else… @55:00 minutes https://youtu.be/Ev4fbIa-oJA?t=3321 The brother of 9/11 victim Geoff said that when governments murder their citizens, it is only the families’ struggle that ever delivers justice. The Campbell family are seeking a second inquest. That reminded me of the family of MLK. They struggled for years to bring the government to justice: and they found it guilty in the assassination of Martin Luther King. As the finding was announced, only one, ONE SINGLE JOURNALIST, was sitting in the court. Coretta Scott King: āWe have done what we can to reveal the truth, and we now urge you as members of the media, and we call upon elected officials, and other persons of influence to do what they can to share the revelation of this case to the… Read more Ā»
The call to reopen Geoff Campbell’s inquest came after the identification of further remains. According to a forensic pathologist who specializes in bombings, the victims’ remains point to the presence of massive explosive force. It should be possible, says Matt Campbell, to show that the impact of a “plane” and the burning of kerosene and office furniture could not have caused such catastrophic damage to so many bodies. Initially nothing was found of Geoff until, in 2002, his collar bone was found. Two years later three other small bone fragments were found, so the family decided to bury what was left of Geoff. In 2008 further remains were found: when they looked at them, they let out a gasp: It was Geoff’s scalp, part of his jawbone and three teeth. His mother was relieved to see there was no sign of burning. They still had no more than 3% of… Read more Ā»
This is my multi-part hypothesis and I challenge you to find a single piece of evidence that contradicts it: On 9/11: Buildings were damaged and destroyed Four plane crashes were faked Death and injury were staged Propaganda strategies: 1. To the masses – terrorist attack, 3,000 killed/6,000 injured 2. To the skeptics – — Controlled demolition — Ambivalence on planes — 3,000 people callously and cold-bloodedly murdered by the US government/6,000 injured (fake loved ones, survivors, witnesses, injured and scripted reporters and emergency responders, PNAC document, auditors of fraudulent goings on and suchlike targeted in the buildings – millions of dollars invested in having skeptics maintain belief in real death and injury) — Loads of mini-streams to cover the essential truths, eg, Israel, Israel, Israel, Saudi Arabia, different theories for demolition, different theories on aeronautical goings on, etc). Note: it’s not that all the propaganda is lies, it’s just that… Read more Ā»
I mean no disrespect to the Campbells or anyone else who lost family members/loved ones in 9/11 but I have always been curious about the DNA that has identified people.
How on earth did anyone find bone fragments in all of the refuse that came down in 9/11. I mean that question sincerely.
I mean where would you even begin? You couldn’t get anywhere near the rubble that was still hot. Did people actually sift through the rubble, and then sift through whatever they brought over to NJ?
Really, does anyone have an explanation? Now I wonder if that story about finding bone fragments on the roof of a nearby building is true.
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/ocme/locations/world-trade-center-repository.page
Thanks, moneycircus.
It’s all propaganda, Judith. No DNA fragments. Death and injury were staged just as it is in so many other psyops.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.html
Seriously, do you accept that the plane crashes were faked? If so, then all the alleged passengers didn’t die in planes and their loved ones are crisis actors, unless some of the alleged passengers didn’t tell their loved ones and just disappeared somewhere in which case their loved ones are genuine but mistaken. I hate to think that some of these people participating in these psyops do that but who knows? Maybe some of them want to set up new lives somewhere else and just break all contact with the old. Perhaps some of their families are awful and they just want to get away from them.
Thank you, MC, for presenting this shining little nugget of truth. My admiration and heartfelt condolences to the outraged family who persevered and persevered and persevered until they had dug up the scanty remains of their loved one. Like Antigone scratching the hard ground with her nails to gather enough earth to religiously bury her dead brother. Family feeling like that is the rock that can stop a Juggernaut of state power.
I shall re-read Antigone with renewed insight. And know there is one more crack in the towering edifice of Lies that is Con-911.
Moneycircus,
Do you agree that for an hypothesis to be correct every single piece of available evidence must support that hypothesis and favour it over any competing hypotheses?
So I ask you if you find these stories of people in the North tower who survived its collapse credible.
A priori do you think anyone would survive the collapse of the North tower while inside it?
The miracle survivor stories
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/2003/n_9189/
The problem with a psyop on the scale of 9/11 is what to do with the bodies – the real bodies, of the people who were supposedly killed. Names, faces, photographs and biographies have been disseminated to the public.
Were these real people, who really did exist and really did work in the Twin Towers? If so, what became of them? If not, wouldn’t someone somewhere have done a little research and found out there were no such people?
One way or another, whether one accepts 9/11 as a terrorist act, a controlled demolition or a psyop, one simply must account for 3000 plus people.
I believe that what you need is whatever evidence proves your case, it is not necessarily a matter of providing this or that piece of evidence. Assuming you accept that the Pentagon plane didn’t happen then we have to ask the question, “What happened to Barbara Olson, media personality and wife of former Solicitor-General, Ted Olson?” She may have wanted out of the rat-race and decided to go and live on a Greek island for the rest of her life. She may have had a terminal illness and simply lain low for the rest of her life. Who knows? What we do know is that the Pentagon plane didn’t happen and so she didn’t die on that plane. It’s clear, in fact, that all four plane crashes were faked so right there you have 265 people who need to be accounted for. We can’t do that but we know they… Read more Ā»
It is relatively easy to account for the supposed airplane victims since they aren’t that many. They could easily have been “disappeared.” But the supposed victims of the Twin Towers are not so easily erased from existence.
If they went to work that day, and were seen going into the buildings; where did they go? how did they get out?
One of the best 9/11 documentaries I’ve seen is “9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money.” According to that documentary, huge audits were being conducted in the Twin Towers (by insurance giant Marsh McClennan) and in the Pentagon (an internal audit about the missing couple trillion dollars); and that in each case the auditors were the real targets on 9/11.
The audits are propaganda to make us believe that the perps were so evil they would kill the people in the buildings to get rid of the auditors in the buildings. I know, I swallowed it myself.
You don’t have to be able to explain everything Howard. All you need is compelling evidence and nothing that contradicts it.
It seems there weren’t actually 3,000 people, they made a number up. I don’t know how these people are accounted for but just because we don’t know doesn’t make that lack of knowledge evidence against death and injury being staged. It wasn’t impossible.
The evidence overwhelmingly shows that death and injury were staged and the fact that we can’t explain certain things doesn’t alter that fact.
Howard, just happened to come across this 2010 post on the Let’s Roll forums which provides an explanation for the fakery of a significant number of people in the buildings. Cantor Fitzgerald laid off loads of people before 9/11, hired lots of new young people who tragically died on the day … and lo and behold rehired the old people after! How’s that?
They worked out so long ago the fakery of death and yet this critical truth has not been disseminated among the wider truth community.
http://letsrollforums.com//9-11-triplets-separated-t22106.html
Hi Petra,
Couldn’t seem to get you directly from your website address.
got a contact address ?
Thanks
It’s on my About Me page but here it is anyway – [email protected]
MC,
You haven’t replied to my question.
Do you find the miracle survivor stories credible at the link below?
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/2003/n_9189/
It really is important to get the difference between a “false flag” and a psyop in the true sense of the word. The difference is of vital importance so if 9/11 is one rather than the other it is very, very, very important to ascertain that. If it weren’t important, the perps wouldn’t have spent millions pushing the event as one thing when it is really the other.
So I ask you to do due diligence on 9/11 and determine for yourself whether the event is a “false flag” or a psyop in the true sense of the word.
Many thanks Moneycircus. Here is a video of William Pepper:
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1272-william-pepper-reveals-who-really-killed-mlk/
William Pepper is a hero and a sage, if he’ll excuse the pun.
Michael Hoffman published āSecret Societies and Psychological Warfareā in 2001.
If you arenāt familiar with Freemasons and Secret Societies, this interview with Bonnie Faulkner of Michael Hoffman is enlightening as it pertains to trauma based mind control around global events like 9-11 and Covid19.
āThe Alchemical Processing of Humanity Through Public Psychodrama.ā
http://gunsandbutter.org/blog/2019/01/27/the-alchemical-processing-of-humanity-through-public-psychodrama
How did I miss that great interview. Thank you. Michael Hoffman: “We have become addicted to the thrill of finding out what our slave masters are doing to us and, rather than engaging us in a counterreaction as would have happened in another era — when the people were so healthy that their reaction would have been a pitchfork peasant revolt — it had to wait until we have been so indoctrinated that we sit back and see it as this Videodrome of fast-moving images and thrills.In that process we become less human and are relegated to the status of Frankenstein’s monster where the only way we can feel alive is by getting more shocks to our system, and the shocks take the form of these occult psychodramas, whether it is the Las Vegas shootings or other ritual murders. Instead of acting against this evil we are participating in it,… Read more Ā»
Here we have both the rule of fear and the addicted-to-entertainment culture – our culture.
Huxley interview …
“I don’t think there are any sinister persons deliberately trying to rob people of their freedom.” Well, except for Huxley himself through his work on Project MK-Ultra and the people behind it.
UnSpun 029 ā āAldous Huxley and Spies in Academic Clothingā
Not sinister just mentally impaired with a heavy bias towards psychopathic tendencies.
There are some serious production issues which need to be sorted out before posting this conference, in my view. I watched the start but after five minutes or so, the sound cuts in and out. These glitches will be very off-putting except for those who already agree anyway. But, who knows, maybe Youtube itself is making things difficult. As a platform, I doubt it is onboard with challenging any official narratives!
Justice Rising – sure I will wait for that. I am not knocking it – I see some very positive signs I am not into self immoliation. I have never done that before ever. My wife did say blimey you look well – your hair is getting even longer. I haven’t had it cut since 2004 when I resigned…I was just trying to light up a litlle one in the wind, and saw all these fucking flames to the left of my eyes. It doesn’t half stink. I am 67 now. Ok I was listening to Planet Rock. It was not intentional. It didn’t hurt. i put it out very quickly. I looked in the mirror – no obvious damage. My face and my hair still looks O.K, Its just a bit shorter now. I put it down to these extremely powerful Chinese gas lighters in a wind I set… Read more Ā»
O/T Three Fine Pages
If The Atlantic is the CIA house magazine, the Company must be losing its marbles.
The Atlantic TDS Tantrum, Calls for End of Nobel Peace Prize After Trump Is Nominated — PJ Media, Sep 12, 2020
Facebook Eagerly Hosting Antifa while Disappearing Conservative Pages – Jonathan Turley — Sep 12
Governments and politicians continue to demanded ever greater censorship of the Internet, which is the greatest vehicle of free speech ever developed.
UK PM BoJo’s Big Week on the Way to the COVID Gallows — Gold Goats ‘n Guns/ Luongo — Sep 11
BoJo still has a chance to match Theresa May and Gordon Brown as the worst British PMs in recent history.
The once proud Atlantic Monthly has become The Atlantic and no longer reflects the quality Ralph Waldo Emerson envisioned. New owner Laurene Jobs seems to prefer Neocon tendencies.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/20/laurene-jobs-the-atlantic-072210
Thanks for the post. Definitely worth watching.
I don’t accept the official narrative of 9/11. WC7 is huge. However why can’t it be accepted that on this part, the BBC exxplanatin on this rare occasion, might be valid. Just playing devils advocate when looking at the evidence.
BBC announced the “collapse” about 23 minutes before the fact even though the building came down in less than 7 seconds. How is that possible?
WC7 collapse was definitely highly suspect. That is not disputed. I understand what you say but that still doesn’t conclusively reveal they were in on it, given their explanation about confusion on the day. Please don’t misunderstand me, I’m genuinely interested on hearing evidence.
I’m not saying they were in on it, but whoever provided the BBC with foreknowledge about WTC 7 was in on it.
Thanks, and thanks for the reply below. Yes, agree entirely on the infeasbility of this building collapsing from fire. Also agree the fore-knowledge (unwittingly or otherwise being in on it) is curious. The BBC say WC7 on fire during the confusion of events, and two buildings coming down already, were told it had collapsed before it had. It might seem unlikely, but still possible. Despite elements of the BBC being totally corrupt, they have also been proven to be hugely incompetant. I can’t 100% discount their account, which is why that’s not one of the supporting arguments I tend to use. Rather I explain to people the engineer evidence. I suppose a similar thing would be BBC Saving Syria’s Children. We know highly likely two of their journalists faked the aftermath of an event. But we don’t actually know the BBC instructed them. Hope you understand where Im coming from… Read more Ā»
Only work with what you can prove.
Lol that is the most moronic thing I have heard. You can write off most of science then. Stop all budding scientists in their tracks.
The words of a true disinformationist.
You must explore possibilities. The truth is always hidden.
None of space has been proved. The Earth being round has not been proved. Neither has/can gravity.
But “only work with what can be proved” haha
I should have made that clearer as obvious someone would take it out of context.
I made a point – people don’t agree. Fair enough.
@Loverat: “Hope you understand where Im coming from”
Coming from nowhere and going nowhere.
The British Brainwashing Corp said plainly, “We would love to explain but we simply lost those tapes. Awfully sorry to have been so clumsy”. End of rational argument.
Like the EU sending people to jail if they research how many Jews died in the Nazi holocaust, but not if those same people research how many other “untermenschen” (Poles, Russians, Serbs, Gypsies, Communists, Ethical Germans) died in that same holocaust. End of rational argument.
The thing with the BBC is that it shows you how corrupt the entire organization would already have been. They themselves must have been shocked when WTC7 came down and yet there has never been a single whistleblower or leak. There must have been a paper trail for that report, yet not one “journalist” bothered to investigate.
On September 11, 2001, the structure was substantially damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris ignited fires on multiple lower floors of the building, which continued to burn uncontrolled throughout the afternoon. The building’s internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires. The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered cascading failure of nearby columns throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm. This initiated progressive collapse of the entire building at 5:21:10 pm, according to FEMA,[5]:23 while the 2008 NIST study placed the final collapse time at 5:20:52 pm.[6]:19, 21, 50ā51 The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first steel skyscraper known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires.[7][8] This is the wikipedia entry for the wtc 7 collapse.… Read more Ā»
Wikipedia certainly knows how to embarrass itself – nay, soil itself – on political topics.
Otherwise, it’s pretty useful…
“How stupid do they think people are? “
Very
Yep. Nobody’s ever lost money betting on how stupid people are. That’s how we got from there to here.
Very stupid. Sadly they are right about most people.
Look up gravity and freefall in your dictionary for starters.
Excellent. Thanks for posting the conference. I’ll be up all night š