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The Piers Morgan Self-Care Guide

Kevin Smith & Lesley Buckley

Before I start in earnest, I should explain that this is not about bashing Piers Morgan or the media (although I’m working on another detailed piece along those lines). But in the background of the lockdown crisis, there are some serious messages which perhaps most readers will relate to.

This article is about mental health and in response to another attempt to cynically use the issue to push an agenda.

Mental Health During UK Lockdown

The idea for the title came from a Twitter feed I came across some time ago. The Twitter account was of a ‘journalist’ who writes about Syria. The thread was titled ‘Idlib Self-Care’ for writers affected by the stresses of writing about Syria.

At first, I thought it was a parody, but as I read on, it dawned on me that it was serious. It lists all the things a writer about Idlib, Syria should do to reduce stress levels. Read it if you dare.

Like many, I felt this was insulting to the Syrian people, a self-indulgent take on the Syrian crisis, as well in some ways trivialising mental health issues.

Other commentators seemed to share my views.

Before I start in earnest, I should explain that this is not about bashing Piers Morgan or the media (although I’m working on another detailed piece along those lines). But in the background of the lockdown crisis, there are some serious messages which perhaps most readers will relate to.

This article is about mental health and in response to another attempt to cynically use the issue to push an agenda.

Twitter

For many years, I totally resisted Twitter. Then a while back I started reading it, confining myself to the more amusing accounts and exchanges.

Recently I decided to see more how it worked and set up an account where I posted just occasionally. It was more of an experiment but with a possible view to raising my profile and circulating my work more widely.

The problem I have with things like Twitter is I know I have that personality which will suck me into it and all the debates and I lose time and focus away from the more important. That type of social media tends to raise my stress levels for reasons some people will be familiar with.

So, I made the conscious decision to use it sparingly.

But since COVID-19 started, I’ve been reading all the debates and posting a lot more. It’s starting to take over a bit.

Morgan vs. Welch

Anyway, last week another Twitter exchange got under my skin.

Not long ago, Denise Welch, Coronation Street actress, came out of the COVID-19 closet and in the last week she’s been quite active on Twitter. Another celebrity addition to the growing lockdown sceptic movement.

She was on ‘This Morning’ TV explaining to Eamonn Holmes her position that lockdown is damaging and disproportionate. I didn’t actually watch the interview at the time but part of Denise’s angle is the effect lockdown has on mental health.

She has suffered from mental health and addiction problems and champions causes around this.

After her appearance, Piers Morgan, who possibly needs little introduction, tweeted this. As well as misrepresenting her position, he insulted her.

For those who watch Morgan on ‘Good Morning Britain’ TV (GMB) along with his TV celebrity family GP sidekick, Dr Hilary Jones, will know they are a pair of charlatan, narcissistic bullies. The COVID-19 scaremongering on that programme has been off the scale. GMB is simply not a platform for any sensible or serious debate about proportion and the huge implications of lockdown.

Serious commentators, such as Peter Hitchens, found this when he was interrupted and insulted by both Morgan and Jones when he appeared on the show.

Anyway, the exchange carried on and one of Denise’s co-presenters (from the ‘Loose Woman’ lunchtime TV programme) got involved.

Morgan came back with this jaw-dropping response.

Here a summary of the exchange.

This exchange got further under my skin. Many will be used to Morgan’s insensitivity and aggressive behaviour, but it is revealing of his complete ignorance, not only of COVID-19, but on so many levels.

Following this, I’ve resolved to take a step back from Twitter again. This is positive for my own stress levels and because it revived my focus on a long-held wish to write a little about mental health and my perspective.

Mental Health During Lockdown

I think there’s little doubt from the statistics and anecdotal evidence that mental health problems are a ticking time bomb, an inevitable result of lockdown isolation and deferred referrals.

My feeling based on my own experience is that on the anxiety and depression spectrum, the figures will go through the roof. First time mental health issues, suicides, self-harm, and addictions and so on.

And most commonly, more moderate general anxiety which I’ll focus on below.

My Experience

Like huge numbers of people, I’ve always had mild anxiety. In a normal stress setting, this has been easily controlled. So, for me, it’s generally very stressful external factors which tip the scales and have on occasions triggered panic attacks.

A few years ago, with changes at work, micro-managing, and a difficult boss, I experienced anxiety. My self- confidence was shot.

I had also began researching world events in more depth and what troubled me most was the inability of other people to understand what was going on in the world, such as regime change agendas in places such as Syria and the new Cold War mentality. It was a kind of huge frustration and powerlessness I felt on both counts.

Anyway, the mental health services provided by my employer were wide-ranging and I was offered various services such as Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CBT) and psychologist support. My employer also offered me advice such as taking anti-depressants, socialising at work events, and attending mental health workshops.

Apart from the psychologist, who I found helpful because she listened, I didn’t do any of this. I declined my employer’s suggestions because I was fully aware that this was not an attempt to address the underlying reasons for my anxiety.

Big employers offer the world in mental health services, but these are never directed towards the root cause, the work practices causing stress as they don’t wish to admit the link. Rather, the focus is on treating the symptoms and building up the employee’s ‘resilience’. It’s a way of shifting the blame to the sufferer.

I knew this was totally the wrong approach, so I examined all my issues and responded in the following way.

I wrote a 3-page letter to my employer setting out the problems in the workplace explaining that in a normal stress setting, my anxiety was under control. Further, I told them what they could do to support me. This was mainly asking them to leave me alone to do my job and not dictate to me how they think my anxiety could be reduced.

I became a rep for the union at work to channel some of my frustrations and joined a few employee groups of interest to me. In weeks, I developed a confidence I’d never had before.

Outside of work, I attended a ‘Media on Trial’ event. There were six incredible speakers, each with a unique insight into Syria, geopolitics, and the media. Along with the other things I was doing, this event helped transform me. Not because I learned much new, but because the sense of vindication for my beliefs was overwhelming. To attend a real event with people who held the same views convinced me I was quite sane and I’d done my research. Since then, I’ve never looked back.

The Piers Morgan Self-Care Summary

Sadly, the world is full of idiots like Morgan. Clearly, he thinks that anyone with a mental health issue shouldn’t have an opinion or express it.

One of the things I was told when I suffered anxiety was that sufferers are often more intelligent and resilient than people who aren’t affected. These are often sensitive, thoughtful, and caring individuals who research things and get involved in charitable causes. I suppose it’s inevitable that this type of person will suffer more anxiety, stress, and depression.

I would guess that given the nature of the information this and other independent sites research and discuss, many readers will relate to the feeling of frustration and powerlessness. And in times of lockdown, I suspect that there will be huge numbers of people who ordinarily can control anxiety but will slip into darkness due to events out of their control.

So, these are some of my self-care suggestions for people in this category. These are not substitutes for professional help, treatments, or other techniques. But these worked for me and relate to my experience and coping strategies I’ve learned on my journey. They’ve also helped when I’ve slipped back, or when my frustration increases occasionally.

Hopefully, these suggestions won’t come across as patronising. In any event, they couldn’t be any more patronising than ‘Idlib Self-Care’ for writers. But they are based on my experience and might strike a chord with those who suffer anxiety, not because of a lack of ‘resilience’, but by the imposition of unwelcome events and people on our lives.

  1. Accept that the world is a bad place with evil, thoughtless, and ignorant people. But don’t resign yourself to not being able to change it. You might not be able to do this on your own, but you can play a small part. Just the feeling of being on ‘the right side of history’ can help relieve the frustration of observing the shortcomings in others.
  2. In a similar way, don’t focus on the bad things which might happen. Try to develop a positive, optimistic, or a ‘good will prevail over evil’ outlook.
  3. Don’t watch mainstream news, especially GMB.
  4. Don’t get hooked on Twitter but spend time looking at the informative and amusing accounts. This may restore your faith in humanity and the good, intelligent people out there.
  5. Go to events such as Media on Trial or any upcoming Julian Assange or anti-lockdown meetings. There is no substitute for being there to get that feeling of vindication and being involved.
  6. No matter what, resolve to always stand up to bullies. For 40 years of my life, I was intimidated by them. Ever since I started standing up to them, they backed off without exception. The last time I had a serious issue with one, I studied this behaviour and learned how manipulative and subtle bullying works. Once you know how they operate, you can deal with it and see your self-confidence return.
  7. Try to unclutter the mind. One of my problems is I overthink or get too engrossed in issues. Take a break to read a book or take up an outdoor hobby.
  8. Organise your life better. When things begin to overwhelm or you find tasks building up, try to work yourself out of it step by step, prioritising the most important and putting the rest aside. And then work calmly and gradually through the rest. The sense of achievement and relief of finally clearing the tasks and getting organised is worth it.
  9. Finally and perhaps most importantly, take control and a rounded view towards anxiety and triggers and consider, as I did, whether addressing more of the root causes helps.

I hope some of that will help in dealing with the fallout from COVID-19 and the Piers Morgans of this world.

Originally published by One World Press

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Granma
Granma
Sep 19, 2020 10:54 AM

Thank you for taking the time to pass that on. Helpful and important!
When I wake, I try to catch myself and make my first thought of the day a HOPEFUL one.
All the best

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 17, 2020 1:18 PM

Thank you for a comprehensive summary of what many people feel. Here’s my summary: We have to realize that the Piers Morgans of modern times are not accidents. The “authorities” desperately need him and his like to flood the media exclusively with the junk philosophy and trivial point-scoring which will ensure the continued dumbing-down of the population to the point where they will obey ANY order they are given by ANY fool in a white coat or a uniform. These Pierses are cultivated, nourished and promoted on purpose. Their function is never to stimulate intelligent discussion or debate, but rather to shut it down. They fit into the category so sharply indicated by Chomsky when he made that memorable remark to Andrew Marr, which showed why Marr was sitting there interviewing Chomsky, rather than the other way round… To paraphrase: They may well believe everything they are saying, but, if… Read more »

Barzini
Barzini
Sep 19, 2020 2:26 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Chomsky is very much one of them – look to his views on 911 for confirmation

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 21, 2020 7:12 PM
Reply to  Barzini

I have often referred to Chomsky’s cowardly avoidance of serious discussion of 911, but that is an aberration from a man who invariably talks a lot of sense on a wide range of topics.
Also, I am aware, when using the word, “cowardly”, that I cannot state with 100% conviction that I would not also be afraid of losing all my public credibility, financial security, and, possibly, my life, if I were in his shoes and accusing Washington of such a shocking atrocity.
I don’t worship Chomsky. I am not a Chomsky-bot. But I do recognize a wide, intelligent and thorough grasp of world events when I see it.
I am disappointed with his stance on the event you mentioned, but he is not “one of them”, and there are many other issues where his attitude confirms this.

Barzini
Barzini
Sep 22, 2020 7:46 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Another example: he writes book after book on the media, and yet never ever mentions what group owns that media – a group which he, incidentally, also belongs to

Classic gatekeeper, just like Icke, etc….

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 23, 2020 4:29 PM
Reply to  Barzini

According to Chomsky, “Mass media firms are big corporations. Often, they are part of even bigger conglomerates. Their end game? Profit. And so it’s in their interests to push for whatever guarantees that profit. Naturally, critical journalism must take second place to the needs and interests of the corporation.”
This is why he doesn’t need to mention what group owns those media. It could be Nike, Mercedes, Microsoft or Tampax.
Which group does he belong to?
Which computer corporation are you supporting by typing your comments here? Are you a gatekeeper too?

Nikoz Coleman
Nikoz Coleman
Sep 16, 2020 6:06 AM

I’ve struggled with my own mental health, over years, decades even, due to abuses in the past, lack of support and also some poor choices. In fact this could be said for millions, a psychiatrist once told me the 3 factors that cause psychosis are high levels of stress, lack of support and lack of hard work, the first two you can only have some control over, you might be a victim of some abuse, develop a difficult illness, and may be isolated, even when you make efforts to avoid this, but what we do have control over is how we deal with such circumstances, simply put, you can’t choose the cards dealt you in life, only how you play them. Many veterans of mental health struggle, ironically, have been better equipped to deal with the covid 19 regulations of isolation, and masking, since many of us have had to… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 16, 2020 4:01 PM
Reply to  Nikoz Coleman

An excellent comment, Nikoz. I particularly enjoyed the reminder that we can’t choose the cards we’re dealt in life, only how we play them. Something that I always seem to forget!

Thanks.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 23, 2020 4:30 PM
Reply to  Nikoz Coleman

That first paragraph is crucially important. Well said.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Sep 16, 2020 3:18 AM

Morgan is everything that’s bad about the tackiness, lies, and snake oil that are manufactured and sold by the mainstream on behalf of the establishment. Particularly when the Tory creatures are running the show. While Morgan may not be a paid up member of the party, he’s as Tory as Boris Johnson and works even harder than him for the cause. The MSM news outlets have always been the propaganda arm of the Government.They present their narrative with little support and bury the opposition argument with nothing but a combination of ad hoc accusation or unfounded allegations. Morgan cut his teeth in the world of cheap red top rags.He transformed the one time bible of the working class labour paper The Mirror and painted it Royal Blue.The millions would soon follow.It coincided with the British obsession with trivia, salacious scandal and celebrity. A world made for the Morgan sycophancy and saccharine. His… Read more »

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Sep 17, 2020 10:55 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Thanks for saving me the trouble of telling everyone about the pissed in his pants boy wonder. Started his sociopathic rise in the Murdoch preparatory hot house where many of the others psychos were trained – like Marina Hyde too. Took over at the Mirror from the psycho Alistair Campbell to keep steering the Labour paper to NuLabInc sellouts. Got destroyed when he got a bit too big for his boots with the City Slickers inside trading and covered up for the illegal Iraq war and murder and abuse by the British Forces with a fake story – designed to be revealed as fake hence avoiding the gaze upon the great crimes by ‘our boys’ and ‘’hero’s’ Twat. He got his reward with mainstream US exposure and than redeployment back to ITV as one of the UK’s ‘faces’. Complete and Utter C*** and biggest twat on ITV – Peston is… Read more »

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Sep 16, 2020 1:11 AM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com
PAX TRUMP Continues: Qatar Gulf Rift.Bahrain.5 More. End of Forever Wars?/
DAVOS: Manifesto To Socially Engineer and Experiment On Humans/
Medical Doctor Warns of Medical Tyranny/
Podesta Also Wargamed Food Scarcity

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Sep 16, 2020 12:26 AM

I bet there’s a ton of people who don’t watch the news, aren’t aware of the latest disasters, are not curious to know about them, yet follow a consistent daily routine devoid of all external craziness. To say ignorance is bliss is a bit too judgemental, given that mainstream media news is not news, but mere propaganda.  Being “mentally off the grid” might be the best place for sensitive souls who intuitively know the political “rabbit hole” is a fiendish atrocious mess.  And that might explain why more than 110 million Americans never waste their time voting…….

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Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Sep 16, 2020 1:19 AM

I think you are right, but…at some point, such negligence brings the shock of these things they ignore to their doorstep. The long stretch when you could do this after WW2 for decades is over.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 16, 2020 1:35 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Someone I know was having a conversation with a woman who who lives a couple of blocks from the riots in Washington State and close to the fires and did not know either ever existed…..

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Sep 16, 2020 3:17 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

I know a mutual friend of someone who has another friend of theirs that said their second cousin two times removed was talking to their girlfriends brother’s best friend about stuff he didn’t even know about.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 16, 2020 5:45 AM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

That’s nice.😱

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 16, 2020 4:02 PM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

I’ve met that person

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Sep 21, 2020 5:11 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

lol well some people really do have it blissful don’t they ::sigh:: I’ve been anxious all day about Australia for my part. But finally the answers to what is happening in the Victoria police state may be surfacing. Finally.
its the only story today I put out
https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 21, 2020 5:47 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

COVID maybe a biological virus, but it’s a more dangerous political disease.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 15, 2020 11:56 PM

WOW!

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Sep 15, 2020 10:52 PM

the friends club – high standing and upright…special ones, household names and titles of lofty elevation, sagacious better than’s with powow words of empyrian perfection – Follow or be Damned – is what they rely on, viewer cooperation, pacing in peon attendance to their phony hierachical order of villainous quackery.

you reatarded twats
you reatarded twats
Sep 15, 2020 10:40 PM

The constituiton has been shredded
CV19 is irrelevant – vast un warranted overreaction
Gov is corrupt and devisive
as are ALL journalists
This all stems from Fractional reserve debt currency imposition whcih was legally installed 100’s of yrs ago.
Without this system this complete CRAP would never have been possible.

If you allow this to be posted it will be a first you fucking creeps

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Sep 15, 2020 10:29 PM

I am posting again only because……

The nine recommendations above….I view them as defense mechanisms.

Most of us have been through them during times of trial. Everyone fucks up and questions him or herself.

Anyone halfway sane will do these things automatically. Its a natural thing. I don’t take offense and don’t see it as condescending. And I don’t think anyone should.

I am a recent widower and it’s fucking wrecked me. My wife of 39 years just up and died.

Losing my spouse prepared me, emotionally, for anything. It’s hardened me.

I am more critical. I am more thorough.

But, it has not given patience. I have grown impatient.

We are too smart for this. It’s time to stand up and take notice. It’s not time to question our sanity.

They are insane for locking the world down.

It’s time……..

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Sep 16, 2020 3:23 AM

“You mean there’s a catch?”“Sure there’s a catch,” Doc Daneeka replied. “Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn’t really crazy.”There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one’s own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn’t, but if he was sane, he had to fly them. If he flew them, he was crazy and didn’t have to; but if he didn’t want to, he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of… Read more »

RobG
RobG
Sep 15, 2020 9:46 PM

I’ve suffered from chronic anxiety attacks all my life, and for this reason (and people might find this strange) I’m not the least bit fazed about what’s going on with the covid con. What’s new about anxiety?

CBT and the like is a con, because it conditions you into living in what most sentient beings will see as a totally mad society.

The latest covid news is that having two feet on the ground doubles your chance of getting the virus; so the latest government advice, now passed into law, is that you must only move on one foot.

Hopalong folks (many people are so stupid that they would actually do this).

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Sep 15, 2020 10:13 PM
Reply to  RobG

You had me then you lost me…….

RobG
RobG
Sep 15, 2020 10:45 PM

The latter part of my post was taking the piss.

Jesus, what’s the matter with people thesedays?!

I’m sorry to hear about your loss, Wayne (see a bit further up the thread). Bereavement is one of the toughest things you have to deal with in life.

I’m sure the thoughts of everyone here are with you.

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Sep 16, 2020 3:27 AM
Reply to  RobG

Taking a piss on a post can upset the structural integrity of the lumber over time due to the nitrification (via the ammonium vector) of the ligneous substrate.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 16, 2020 4:04 PM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

What is it on earth that u do for a living

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 16, 2020 4:05 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Don’t answer that specifically

Lisa
Lisa
Sep 15, 2020 10:25 PM
Reply to  RobG

what about all the dead people. …. was it suicide just to please the governments?

RobG
RobG
Sep 15, 2020 10:53 PM
Reply to  Lisa

Where are all the dead people?

Beyond usual flu, there are no excess deaths (and that’s on official government stats).

I’ve never seen anything like it, how people can be totally conned into believing there’s some kind of killer virus (NOT), while giving up all their civil liberties and submitting to a police state.

Wake-up: You-Are-Being-Conned.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Sep 15, 2020 11:34 PM
Reply to  Lisa

Last year there were hundreds of thousands of deaths.Some from terminal illness( cancer etc), some from pneumonia, some from Flu and some from various other ailments.Many just died of old age and were given the standard ‘pulimonary disease’ or similar on their death certificates. This year , if the patients show one or two coronavirus symptoms( Not Covid 19) they’re given ‘Covid’ on their death certificates and were legitimately added to the figures.The bigger the figure the more urgent the need for a rescue package. Those who were / are admitted to hospital with covid 19 and die present with altitude sickness- not flu like symptoms.This is why the ventilators killed them.It stiffened the lungs that were 70% low on oxygen.They should have been given oxygenated blood.Those who have recovered will have the anti bodies in the plasma of their blood.Yet The man who wants to give the world vaccines… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 19, 2020 6:11 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Minor points: There is no specific corona symptom. For covid, there is a long list of expanding or changing or differing symptoms, depending on the country.

Quite apart from the issue of any covid virus, disease or valid test, there was certainly an effort to create a related disease:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Sep 19, 2020 6:30 PM
Reply to  mgeo

”There is no specific corona symptom. For covid, there is a long list of expanding or changing or differing symptoms, depending on the country.” Exactly.It’s the virus that keeps moving it’s own goalposts.It’s the Ted Bundy of the virus world. No wonder the Science police can’t catch it. It’s a master of disguise. It sort of begs the question of how come they could compose a lengthy list of it’s makeup and it’s ability to cause various deadly deeds, yet haven’t got a microscopic piece of evidence of it’s existence .That’s really shocking when you consider that the most famous software tycoon on the planet is chasing it. Imagine if the same amount of planning that went into preparing psychological programmes to place the population in fear and teach them to hide behind their sofas and do as they’re told had gone into finding the actual virus so they could… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 20, 2020 6:05 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

How did this great philantrophist become rich? By coercing 100s of millions to upgrade their software to newer versions of his junk. How? By getting rogue programmers to create problems/malware. Some of the money came from the fascist spy establishment, for integral backdoors in new products.

Now, some money comes from harmful or useless vaccines trialled in countries that can be corrupted more cheaply, where any bad news can be suppressed.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Sep 20, 2020 3:35 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Thing is with Gates, he was the perfect choice to fool millions on behalf of the evil twins of DARPA and the CIA. He looked the stereotypical awkward, harmless geek who lived in is own computer. It was believable when he ‘invented’ Windows and half the western world suddenly became interested in computers and the clever games.Once hooked in DARPA released the internet for home consumption and the addiction was effective. Gates smiled as he delivered infected programmes that would need to be updated at full price constantly , and always included back doors to sneak surveillance through.Also the infamous Trojan viruses were born.A seemingly low risk thing but concealing a destructive virus inside.And that’s what sums Gates up.His hidden hand and those hidden of his handlers who are aiming for total lockdown of the planet and inner lockdown of those who inhabit it and have aspirations to be free.… Read more »

Jesper
Jesper
Sep 15, 2020 9:04 PM

We’re on Cloud nineteen!

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Sep 15, 2020 8:44 PM

My anxiety related to Covid is related more to the ignorance and stupidity of people making the big decisions. You can’t help but fall back in your chair and wonder if the world is really that stupid. Or, am I. How is it that simple easy to explain irrefutable facts are considered nonsense by people I once thought intelligent. That IS the root the problem. And IT does make me anxious. No matter how much I drink, it gets no better. Watching videos and reading essays by people who share my opinion may help a little but as long as my grand kids continue to Zoom for school at home and I am forced to where a mask every where I go, I won’t feel much better knowing there others who think like I think. I have met plenty of bullies. It’s easy to put them in their place. A… Read more »

WeaselBreath
WeaselBreath
Sep 15, 2020 9:33 PM

Thank you for your concise synopsis of the past nine months. We were dishonestly told that it was all about the science. Then we were led down this bread-crumbed trail of political science rather than honest empirical science, Big difference between the two.

With empirical science the results can be repeated over and over again to meet a supposed hypothesis, With political science the same mistakes are repeated over and over again with the expectation of a different result.

RobG
RobG
Sep 15, 2020 11:15 PM

Wayne, you realise what bullshit this all is. What you might not realise is that it’a all linked to the collapse of the US dollar. This is a somewhat watered down article from Yahoo…

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/repo-market-broken-fed-wants-202356690.html

… but it does explain how the global economy (which is almost entirely reliant on the US dollar) started going into complete meltdown last September, a year ago now.

When Soviet communism rapidly collapsed 30 years ago it gave up the ghost gracefully. We are now witnessing the rapid collapse of what’s called ‘capitalism’ (it’s not capitalism, but that’s another story). The total psychopaths who control capital are not going to give up easily. These psychopaths are now rapidly rolling out a complete global police state, in an attempt to hold onto power.

Bob
Bob
Sep 16, 2020 1:07 AM

I don’t believe that ignorance and stupidity is the problem with the people making the big decisions – they are compromised and corrupted. As for the rest, as a life-long contrarian, i have made the following observation; people who have a lot to lose, no matter how intelligent they would seem, are very prone to cognitive dissonance, or as Orwell put it, doublethink. I don’t think it is a voluntary act, but a mechanism that humans have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years, to avoid inter-tribal conflict.

People who have less to lose on the other hand, are much more willing to consider all the evidence, even if it goes against the narrative we are presented with from the top.

And then there are some, very rare, people, who despite having a lot to lose, will speak truth.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Sep 16, 2020 6:29 PM

”My anxiety related to Covid is related more to the ignorance and stupidity of people making the big decisions. You can’t help but fall back in your chair and wonder if the world is really that stupid. Or, am I. ” Don’t kid yourself that any of them are stupid concerning this pandemic.They know exactly what they’re doing.This has been planned for decades. Many of those making the decisions were still in school. The remit is to subjugate then control the masses.They are merely parroting scripts handed to them by behavioural psychologists to achieve this.How else could you persuade everyone to allow the domination of their behaviour other than a global threat ? They realised the terrorism spectre did it’s job well without resistance for 20 years from 9 / 11. The same apparatus is behind this. ” No matter how much I drink, it gets no better. ” I… Read more »

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Sep 16, 2020 8:33 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

I will go to the malt…… Thanks for taking the time to read my post of frustration.  My audience is small and most know I am a scientist and for that I am given a certain level of respect. I tend to teach by habit. Simple things like, “We have bigger problems than recycling solid waste”. Followed by the question, “So what are you going to do when your water supply runs out?” That’s me. I try to get people to focus on the bigger picture. First things first.  Bill Gates is focused on the bigger picture, but for personal reasons, just like the rest of the mega rich across the globe. Stem population growth.  But it’s more personal. They will continue to hide out isolating themselves while living their lives of luxury. That lifestyle is being threatened. Simple as that. It IS our greatest threat.  We have gone from 4 Billion to almost 8 Billion in about… Read more »

Ramdan
Ramdan
Sep 15, 2020 8:16 PM

“Overcoming the Robotic Mind – Why Humanity Must Come Through”

http://www.julianrose.info

bob
bob
Sep 15, 2020 8:08 PM

this is a very dangerous thread that implies that ‘mental health’ whatever that is can be readily overcome with a bit of effort – OG attacking a commenter here is unsavoury – I am no longer amused by OG approach to this matter – it is insensitive, uncaring, juvenile and duplicitous – maybe even ideologically based – that is not how you deal with vulnerable people, as many of us are – OG showing their true colours maybe?????????????

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 15, 2020 8:44 PM
Reply to  bob

did you also witness the towers collapse, first one then the second, mostly due to structural failure because the fires were just too intense?

you guys need to work harder on sounding spontaneous.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Sep 15, 2020 9:09 PM

How does that help someone who’s had psychosis?

Nikolas VII
Nikolas VII
Sep 15, 2020 10:16 PM

How does Gordon not see you?

Its getting plainer and plainer and the only explanation can be you have taken the filthy luchre.. why else would you attack others here? we all cant be 77th brigade, I think they are sitting back and watching how proper folk take you halfwitted bunch of cunts out. I told you this doesnt stop until you say sorry.

Nikolas VII
Nikolas VII
Sep 15, 2020 10:17 PM
Reply to  Nikolas VII

or perhaps not so half witted, how much they give you?
gordy might sell his soul if the price is right, come on down innit.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 15, 2020 11:25 PM

Nikolas VII, or is it L Catt or Adi Ha (you really need to make use of a thesaurus) and probably several of the other new names appearing here today? You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with money. Presumably that explains why you are prepared to spend your life posting offensive and pointless bollocks – I hope your remuneration makes it all worthwhile. For some of us our dignity cannot be bought at any price.

bob
bob
Sep 16, 2020 3:00 AM

as someone who has posted here regularly and with great public comment and support – and someone who has financially supported OG – I think you should fuck off – no respect here anymore – OG showing their real colours

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 16, 2020 4:07 PM

Ah. An admin joke. I lived to see it.

John Deehan
John Deehan
Sep 15, 2020 9:31 PM
Reply to  bob

Brigade 77 or integrity initiative?

Big B
Big B
Sep 15, 2020 8:02 PM

Since “Civilisation and its Discontents”: Mr Freud asked “Is “ordinary unhappiness” any way to live?” The anxiogenetic tension between autonomy and heterogeneity, individuality and state conformity, the need to be recognised and the nondescript homogeny of the daily drudge is the root of all anxiety. The problem with his model of unconscious repression, libidinal cathexation, and death drives is that it is all so violent and inevitable. Do not cross my path, or else! Based on a rampant psychological model of talion – an eye for an eye – and competitive unnatural selection. Is man – human nature – really like this? Or has civilisation made it so? The underlying assumption is that individuation is a purely unconscious psychic processing: controlled by inaccessible hypostatic personalities competing with each other, and then competing with the external Other for recognition and identity. As a repressed strategy of violence with phantasms of elimination.… Read more »

Someone
Someone
Sep 15, 2020 8:33 PM
Reply to  Big B

Your wife is not a “resource” dude

Tom G
Tom G
Sep 15, 2020 8:01 PM

Wow. I was at school with Piers Morgan 40 years ago. He was my dormitory captain, and a popular – if, often, mischievous – one at that. A very popular and able sports captain, too. Throughout the disagreements I’ve had with some of his views, and all the negative things that get said about him, I have maintained a positive opinion of him. Until I read the tweets you publish here. As a long-term sufferer of acute anxiety myself, I find it truly grotesque, truly despicable, when mental health is used as means to make ad hominems attacks (which are despicable enough as it is). Of course if his tweet had been some mild, unintended quasi-reference to something to do with race, Morgan would be sacked immediately. But doubtless not with mental health. His attack is disgustingly ablist (as his use of the word ‘dumb’). Mental health is a truly… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 15, 2020 7:09 PM

You’ve misspelled Piers Moron’s name.

Tom G
Tom G
Sep 15, 2020 8:50 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

At school he was Piers Pugh-Morgan. Piss Puke Moron, we called him.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 15, 2020 9:42 PM
Reply to  Tom G

Possibly the most apt nickname I’ve ever seen.

Tom G
Tom G
Sep 15, 2020 9:49 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Strangely enough, he never objected to it, and indeed in one retrospective newspaper artcie he even happily made reference to it.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 15, 2020 9:54 PM
Reply to  Tom G

He probably would’ve hated to be completely ignored.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 15, 2020 9:52 PM
Reply to  Tom G

I googled that – From CNN:

Interesting that he was bullied. I guess it had an effect.

“Piers Stefan O’Meara was born in Sussex, England, in 1965, the youngest of four children. His father died when he was very young, and he took his stepfather’s last name, Pughe-Morgan. Later, he shortened it to Morgan because it made for a better byline.
His parents ran a pub, and Morgan learned at an early age how to hold forth for a crowd. He attended prep school until he was 13, when the money ran short. He enrolled in the local comprehensive school, akin to a U.S. high school, where he was bullied about his name. Schoolmates turned his last name into “Puke-Moron” and his first name into something unprintable.”

Tom G
Tom G
Sep 15, 2020 10:35 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Well at that prep school, I remember the only goal in football I ever scored was when his younger brother, jeremy – an infinitely less intelligent chap than Piers (he became a major in the army) – was in goal. Piers and I shared something unusual in common – and we chatted about it some 15 years ago – in that we both moved on from that prep school to a comprehensive. A true culture shock. At the prep school, as a dormitory captain he was inventive with forms of punishment (all dormy captains had their pet forms of torture), which is interesting in view of how he lost his job at the Mirror. There were two people who were the first to systematically bully me at that school, and they were also Piers’ close friends – members of the ‘Garibaldi Gang’ who stole biscuits from the kitchens. Piers would… Read more »

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Sep 15, 2020 7:07 PM

Seems that WITH LUCK we can all test positive for CUVID!

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just try until a positive happens!

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 6:11 PM

I think you need to return to your cell L Catt.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 15, 2020 11:28 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Jo

All L Catt’s numerous alter egos have evidently been down voting your comment!

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Sep 15, 2020 6:00 PM

And do the Alexander Technique.j

Nikolas VII
Nikolas VII
Sep 15, 2020 10:19 PM

I always upvote good advice,

G Caillau
G Caillau
Sep 15, 2020 5:04 PM

Virus infection can cause several diseases. They are basically parasites and spread from one host to another. As they cause diseases but also used for some beneficial work.  In Latin, the word ‘Virus’ means ‘poison’. Do you know that at the beginning of the nineteenth century this word was used for any substance that produces toxic disease? But now the word virus is also used for pathogenic particles. The virus is an infectious particle that exhibits the characteristics of life and non-life. The structure and function of the virus differ from plants, animals, and bacteria. They are not cells and cannot replicate themselves. The virus has to rely on hosts for the production of energy, reproduction and for survival. Approximately the size of a virus is 20-400 nanometres. Virus is also the cause of many human diseases, like virus influenza, chickenpox, and common cold, etc. If I was a reg… Read more »

Ludwig Purtscheller
Ludwig Purtscheller
Sep 15, 2020 5:36 PM
Reply to  G Caillau

Very Interesting are you related to Rob Cilliau? I used to walk his mothers dogs, lovely woman. Robert Cailliau (born 26 January 1947) is a Belgian info engineer, computer scientist and author who proposed the first (pre-www) hypertext system for CERN in 19871 and collaborated with Tim Berners-Lee on the World Wide Web from before it got its name. He designed the historical logo of the WWW, organized the first International World Wide Web Conference at CERN in 19942 and helped transfer Web development from CERN to the global Web consortium in 19953] Together with Dr. James Gillies, Cailliau wrote How the Web Was Born, the first book-length account of the origins of the World Wide Web. Cailliau was born in Tongeren, Belgium. In 1958 he moved with his parents to Antwerp. After secondary school he graduated from Ghent University in 1969 as civil engineer in electrical and mechanical engineering… Read more »

MerryWhat?
MerryWhat?
Sep 15, 2020 4:13 PM

The US is militarily and economically policing the world, but look what they have back home:

Now Baltimore is back in the news, with at least 46 people shot – 12 of them died last week, according to The Baltimore Sun, citing new Baltimore Police Department (BPD) data.

Were these 46 people shot democratically?. If not, other countries should fullfil their duty of care and fix the problems in the US.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2020 4:43 PM
Reply to  MerryWhat?

 “policing the world.”

Correction. War racketeering corporate fascist oligarch mobster psychopaths terrorize, pillage and loot the world. They do not police it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Xp7whYQ1BAg/ViFaZuyLquI/AAAAAAAACK8/lv9lMHy4IhQ/s1600/bm5620528a.jpg


S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2020 4:49 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

To start those war criminals should get out of Iraq and Syria (stop stealing their oil) and Afghanistan (stop dealing in Heroin/Opium). End the illegal occupation of Korea too.

http://tonusperegrinus.blogspot.com/2015/10/maj-gen-smedley-butler-war-is-racket.html

ForExample
ForExample
Sep 15, 2020 5:26 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Interesting, australian politicians and media cannot see any of this:

War racketeering corporate fascist oligarch mobster psychopaths terrorize, pillage and loot the world. They [the US] do not police it.

Take for example the australian ABC. They keep accusing China of ‘militarising’ The South China sea while completely ignoring the provocative US military build-up.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2020 6:17 PM
Reply to  ForExample

The criminal actions on the part of the war racketeers are going to cause shortages and increase prices on goods. It may also result in a large reduction of “untermenschen and useless eaters” in Australia and New Zealand. “Culling the herd” as Doc Billy Eugenics (Bill Gates) calls it.

The people of those two countries may get to experience, at least for a short time, “the Mad Max experience.” It is almost as if they are being sold down the river.

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Sep 15, 2020 9:14 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

My Uncle Relative Absolutism ( I know… his parents were both philosophy professors at Otago University hence the name) once sold a river to a bloke.

Now Cooper you’re doing very well at diverting the readers attention away from the unforeseeable fact that:

New Zealand has been carefully planning World Domination for the last 1,125 years.

We have slowly been buying up all the world’s socio-political resources and preparing a Marine force of strike Penguins for occupation of various thingamees that have strategically tactical response paradigms.

We are just about to reveal this grand design… once all the Penguins are in place.

You’ll like it in the New New Zealand Normal of World Dominion.

Everyone one is nice and friendly.

But don’t let on just yet.

Wait for the secret code word: PENGUIN

.

paul
paul
Sep 15, 2020 8:53 PM
Reply to  MerryWhat?

Yes, those shootings were entirely democratic.
No evil white people involved.
Just black folks shooting other black folks.
And that’s democratic.
Unlike the 9 unarmed black people shot dead by police in the 12 months of 2018.
Those black lives matter.

Barzini
Barzini
Sep 19, 2020 5:05 AM
Reply to  paul

How many unarmed white people were killed over the same period?

Dors
Dors
Sep 15, 2020 4:13 PM

Speaking of what may help one’s mental health, somebody just thanked me for the therapeutic effect of the video I forwarded her, of Grigory Sokolov playing Bach

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 3:47 PM

I don’t recognise anxiety as a ‘disorder’. Anxiety is a healthy emotional response, in that certain things make us anxious (and so they should). Semi-permanent anxiety can be tackled by working to change your outer or inner life.
I believe that once basic needs are taken care of, it’s very much a spiritual problem.
But framing anxiety as the disorder focuses on the symptom and not the root cause. Well-meaning perhaps but ultimately, not helpful.
As with much of modern ‘medicine’.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 3:51 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

‘Anxiety’ is simply suppressed fear.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  ame

Wow, that’s a good quote! Is how I feel. Treading thin line between needing to speak out and self preservation.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 5:30 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Zen Priest – Music to my ears. Modern medicine, particularly in relation to mental health, is really nothing more than a control and containment strategy which is entirely ineffective as it is only 30% effective. I have good knowledge of the mental health system on a number of levels but not in relation to myself. I think you will find that, Most Psychiatrist, GPs or other medical professionals will not, under any circumstances, take things like Lithium and other psychotropic drugs because they know how dangerous they are to the brain, to someone’s health and to the development of serious long term disorders such as Parkinsons. I have worked with two GPs (not in the same country) who were both bi-polar but refused to take any medication. Some of the rambling letters they wrote about patients were scandalous, unprofessional and dangerous because they remain on someone’s health records for the… Read more »

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 6:55 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

It is by design. You make the patient focus on their deficiency which is they ‘have anxiety’ which avoids the root cause ie what is making them anxious. So of course they need chemicals to alter their ‘faulty bodies/minds’. It is grotesque. But it is on purpose. It is how the medical industry steals trillions from us. The second function is it keeps people asleep as to the real causes of their malcontent. Which of course they want. It is very clever. I always knew there was something wrong in the world, and had I bought the mainstream narrative I would assume I had a number of ‘mental issues’. But something told me it was all a scam, and also that drugs would not only prevent me from discovering the cause but maybe fuck me up the future too. Now I know I was right. Doctors are little more than… Read more »

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Sep 15, 2020 10:04 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Anxiety is a a part of the learned helplessness programming to keep your Limbic system in the control of the environment around which is a jackpot winner for the trauma terror technical team who live off people in a state of perpetual panic.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 11:13 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Well put.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 15, 2020 2:24 PM

Piers Morgan who I’ve never watched or listened to, however, have read about from time to time, appears to be the British equivalent of Anne Coulter.

Garden variety hate mongers.

Leeches such as this, make money by sucking the last remains of societal common decency, through embarrassing public displays of their own ignorance, intolerance, fear and hatred in a bizarre and ironic attempt at self aggrandizement.

They’re carrying internal self disgust and shame and projecting it onto others as a defense mechanism.

21st century clown shows.

Without attention, they have no audience and will disappear.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Sep 15, 2020 4:07 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Anne Coulter is not a “hate monger”. In her books, she simply presents an alternative, non- politically correct view. Her research is thorough and her arguments are persuasive. Sure she 9nky presents one side of the story, but as a counter to the MSM side of the story, her views are informative. Try reading Coulter. I am reading Mugged, written a few years ago. It explains how Dems/Liberals have exploited racial issues for political gain. Of course they are still at it. An eye opener. The “hate” is all directed at Liberals and much of it is justified.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 15, 2020 5:08 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

There is no left and right, and there are no liberals or conservatives, it’s fiction. A giant con. If you actually believe any of the things espoused by Coulter or any other political commenter who writes books to keep the con going, then you are simply a victim of the con.

Wedge issues are made up junk as is identity politics.

They are fictional narratives to divide people into opposing groups.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 8:58 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Well said. It’s cringe worthy when people go into lengthy discussions about left and right.

John Deehan
John Deehan
Sep 15, 2020 10:19 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Professor Antony C Sutton saiid it concisely “ there is no left or right, there is them or us”.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 15, 2020 5:14 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

“You will find liberals always rooting for savages against civilization.” Anne Coulter.

Divisive fiction.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 5:32 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Researcher, yes they are exactly what you say leeches but, our MSM is exactly the same it’s all about negativity, hate, fake news, fake scandals, mock outrage. They have lowered the threshold of decency to the extent that we don’t know what it is any more. Yet our Prime Minister has given them £35m to keep pumping out the propaganda.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 15, 2020 5:48 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

It’s psychological manipulation.

All we can do is wake up our family and friends to the false dichotomy and the created crises by sharing truth and knowledge.

Helen Back
Helen Back
Sep 15, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Jeremy Kyle MKII IMO.

Dayne
Dayne
Sep 15, 2020 1:52 PM

About bullies… This past few years I’ve been struck by how mainstream this type of behaviour has become even in the commercial world. As a freelancer, I can only describe some of my biggest clients as predatory psychopaths. They squeeze, intimidate and manipulate. They relish in fits of anger. They find ways of stretching a small engagement to several years – and get upset if a supplier (having been paid nothing for 6-7 months) takes on other work in between. They solicit feedback, then invariably feel belittled. It’s one big reality TV show, with the worst of human qualities proudly on display. Worse, I get a strong impression that these individuals were professionally TRAINED at all these tricks: Feign a personal connection with the business partner. X-ray his personality, his past, his family status. Find a vulnerability. Then take an ice pick; keep attacking; and suck the blood out of… Read more »

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 15, 2020 4:40 PM
Reply to  Dayne

The comparison to reality shows struck me as well since a few years. Proper management techniques based on respect and productivity seem to have gone out the window in almost everybody, employers, managers and colleagues… it becomes ridiculous to navigate through it, and morally exhausting. I find myself trying to re educate every one, and push management books like the L.E.T. from Thomas Gordon… employed by major corporations and governments. If these are mostly bad now, the management technique from the 60’s is still the most effective and humane, based on brilliant work on relationship to authority by this industrial psychologist, two times nominated for peace Nobel prize, after his death… anyway, no success so far, my surroundings remain a jungle… better start bitting as well

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 9:01 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

The masses are simply aping the shysters who rule over them. Their way has become the norm.

Peter Cartwright
Peter Cartwright
Sep 15, 2020 1:52 PM

Thank you for your advice, which I appreciate. I learned to control my anxiety in a similar way and still do. I feel a lot better for it. Yes, I get tied up with some of my “friends” on social media and get so frustrated with their obvious ignorance of events. When this happens, I log out and usually turn to OffG, UK Column, 21st Century Wire and other alternative news sites I access to get my sanity back in order. Then I am ready for the next round on social media, but not for too long!

L Catt
L Catt
Sep 15, 2020 1:33 PM

Why are the folk who to looks like they be taking the Rockerfella luchre, so reluctant to admit to being wrong and say soz to the injured party and make a retraction as few halfwits here took it as being true which is exactly how propaganda works, I have to go back to work soon, but will be back later, Thurs I have a day off whooohoo I get to waste the valuable? time of the cunts who said I was a paedophile, sorry severnty seventh,, same thing inside my head so I hope the good folk here whose eyebrows are raised understand my rage it will not end, they can and will have this every single day forever, the quicker they do it the better as I may start making other conditions, i think a retraction and apl;ology are enough, but the guys here think they are above saying… Read more »

James
James
Sep 15, 2020 1:28 PM

Ahh, Piers Morgan…the cunt’s cunt!

L Catt
L Catt
Sep 15, 2020 1:35 PM
Reply to  James

the ad mins here too,, all same boat,, in the pay of the same person perhaps?

there is a website called isacu nt.. I may go there and have a rant,, now back to work,,, see yawlz later gators.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 15, 2020 1:09 PM

Thank you both Kevin and Leslie. Appreciate your article, but especially your self care suggestions. And in my very humble opinion, Piers Morgan is a douchebag. Simple as that. As are many in the ‘media’ forever pushing the plandemic narrative. In fact, the role of the MSM has been outrageous. They are morally and ethically bankrupt. No other way to describe it. For those with mental health issues, the draconian measures, including lockdowns have been really difficult to deal with. I was diagnosed with clinical depression many years ago and also anxiety disorder. A double whammy, but I haven’t taken any medication for over 11 years now. That was a conscious choice I made. The situation in Melbourne has been very challenging. And through Facebook we hear of ever increasing suicides. Not to mention people under incredible stress. Organisations like Lifeline have been run off their feet. I was pretty… Read more »

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 15, 2020 2:15 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

My thoughts are with people like yourself who’ve become emblematic of ‘the resistance’ in Melbourne and other totalitarian hot-spots around the world.

I wonder if there’s a way to use technology to forge protective links with others around the world? A safety-net if you will. It would be wise to link home surveillance cameras to automatically stream events to others in case of police brutality.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 15, 2020 2:44 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

That’s what I’ve been doing – linking up with others around the world, mainly on Facebook, which is a huge pain, coz of the rampant censorship, and, yes, surveillance.
As I’ve mentioned to you, and with videos people have seen, the cops here in Melbourne now show up at people’s homes coz they merely posted things on FB.
Lots of people are leaving Facebook in droves and going onto MeWe or Parler. I’ll probably do the same soon.
And yes, people are capturing acts of police brutality on their phones, and there was a shocking event in Melbourne on Sunday, where a man was rammed by a police car, then stomped in the head and kicked as he lay on the ground.
A lot of people were outraged by it – even from those who support the covid lockdowns.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 5:46 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezzah, the conduct of the Police in Melbourne is the epitome of a Police State and Totalitarianism with a Fascist Despot Adolf Daniel at the helm. Totally unwarranted and unproportionate. The next time Australia, the UK or any other such countries dare to criticise China, Russia, Iran or anyone else they should look to themselves first and their own country. Anyway, it sounds as though you are managing the situation. I’ve moved house recently so have been off the radar for a bit. Unfortunately for me, my local MP is Matt Wancock

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 16, 2020 9:47 AM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Hi Jo, good to hear from you again. Pretty rural area you’ve moved too (which is a lot better tho than a large city) and please forgive me going on a total tangent, but the only thing I know is that there’s small football teams in Haverhill and Newmarket, and the racecourse also. Yep, Deranged Dan is on a massive power trip and he has no problem having the riot squad unleashed on completely peaceful protesters. But a lot of us, including myself, are convinced that what is happening in Melbourne and in New Zealand, are testing grounds for what will happen everywhere. All across the world. There is a much bigger agenda going on here. And I think things are now definitely being ratcheted up in the UK. Am just getting through one day at a time, tho financially am restricted on going very far, however things are looking… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 18, 2020 10:03 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezza, I hope you are wrong but I suspect you are right. It’s really heartening that you have good friends who can help you it goes some way to relieving the pressure. It seems to me as though most of Europe, African Nations and Latin American nations are returning to normal functioning with CV-19 in dramatic decline. Except of course, the UK who is going in a completely different direction to the rest of the world with a bunch of maniacal, paranoid, delusional scientists now officially flouting complete gibberish. It seems to me that the problem in Victoria is that there doesn’t seem to be any short-term time limit set on the draconian restrictions. I understand they have now been extend for six months. I sincerely hope the good people of Melbourne and Victoria continue to rise up, demonstrate and revolt against them. Mein Furher Adams’ reign cannot last… Read more »

Mara Moreau
Mara Moreau
Sep 15, 2020 3:04 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezzah! We have our son and partner living in Sunbury. Being out on the outskirts of Melbourne it hasn’t been so bad for them, but we still feel concerned about what is happening there. We are heartened to hear about the class action building against the impact of covid measures by lawyer Serene Teffaha. I fully support your decision to not take prescription medication for anxiety or depression- they change your brain and actually make things worse longterm. We take a breathing class which includes bodywork and breathing is a great way to get back into the para-sympathetic nervous system when you are stressed.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 5:49 PM
Reply to  Mara Moreau

Mara, I don’t know if this has filtered through to this website yet but a lawer in Ohio is also bring a large legal action against the Governor and the State in relation to Covid measures. From reading the initial case papers, it’s going to be a scorcher of a trial. Let’s hope lawyers in other countries do the same! BTW it is on Jon Rappaport’s blog.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 16, 2020 9:58 AM
Reply to  Mara Moreau

I’ve only been out to Sunbury twice since I moved to Melbourne 3.5 years ago, but it’s a really nice area.
Agree – Serene Teffaha has been doing excellent work getting together the class actions, and I believe a law firm in Sydney is doing the same. Last week, a QC in Melbourne publically stated that the curfews were illegal and should be lifted immediately.
Did Daniel Andrews listen? Nope. Did Daniel Andrews listen to the hundreds of Doctors who wrote him a letter nearly 2 weeks ago? Nope. I actually wonder if he’s even sane? One thing for certain, he is a psychopath.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Sep 15, 2020 12:53 PM

They only had to say sorry and retract, now I will snow them under with having to moderate shed loads of posts, its not hard to do, and it will eat into their time, time is money, perhaps they are minted from the pay out they got to discredit themselves,, oh to have some integrity!

Grafter
Grafter
Sep 15, 2020 12:39 PM

“More than 57,500 coronavirus-related deaths have been recorded in the UK, the ONS has confirmed.
Its latest figures, published this morning, show that 52,420 deaths involving Covid-19 had occurred in England and Wales up to September 4, and had been registered by September 12.”

What can one say ? True ? I see they use “involving “.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 15, 2020 1:07 PM
Reply to  Grafter

What does *related* mean?

Someone who died of a heart attack but the doctor was coerced into adding ‘coronavirus’ on the death certificate?

This is criminal. What happened to Matt Hancock’s urgent review into PHE’s ‘mishandling’ of statistics?

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Sep 15, 2020 1:18 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Someone who died because they couldn’t see their GP because of lockdown? Corona related?

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 5:51 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

Yes and all the elderly who were ill and forced out of hospital into care homes with a DNR but needed continuing medical care and then being denied entry to hospital or an ambulance when they fell ill again. Or, all the people who required and were in life saving cancer treatment, renal treatment etc whose treatments were unilaterly cancelled by the NHS. Probably continue to be higher than other deaths.

Paul
Paul
Sep 15, 2020 1:58 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Let me translate the ONS figures- that is the number of people who have died after testing positive for the virus and died within 28 days no matter what the cause of death is and includes those with no test where a diagnosis based on symptoms.

As per the WHO guidelines no clinical diagnosis of the Covid19 pneumonia is required and no autopsies are to be carried out.

As the test is not a diagnostic tool and the virus has never been isolated and the gene sequencing is extremely similar to other coronavirus it’s simply impossible for anyone to know how many if even anyone has died of Covid19.

The gold standard diagnosis must be an X-ray and blood test.
This is not being done.

With regards to Covid19, evidence based medicine is ignored.

Mara Moreau
Mara Moreau
Sep 15, 2020 3:17 PM
Reply to  Paul

The reason doctors have changed the way they record ’cause of death’ on death certificates has to also do with the financial incentive they are paid for doing do. A positive result on the PCR test attracts a nice financial bonus for the testers as well. Put that together with financial benefits for health practitioners using certain expensive treatment protocols rather than tried and tested simple and effective treatments and we have the scamdemic.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2020 12:35 PM

” Pierce who?” Sort of an advertisement as to the benefits of avoiding Twitter.

https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechnetwork3.html

Now on to the matter of how are we going to get rid of those mass murdering and thieving fascist psychopaths.

Howard
Howard
Sep 15, 2020 5:02 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

There’s only one way to “get rid of those mass-murdering and thieving fascist psychopaths” – and it’s worked throughout history: pit them against even more psychopathic mass-murderers and thieves. It’s fool proof.

But perhaps the cure is worse than the disease?

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2020 5:32 PM
Reply to  Howard

Was that the case with the French Revolution or the Russian Revolution? Certainly the regime’s need for money/funds was an issue as was war, but the participation of THE PEOPLE played a big part in the departure/demise of those much hated and despised regimes.

“This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

~ Frederick Douglas, 1857 
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Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 15, 2020 11:38 AM

If human beings are distressed because they’re being imprisoned – even though they’re healthy – then their emotional response system is working as it should.

Prison and solidarity confinement have been used as punishments to elicit emotional distress for centuries. Lockdown depression/anxiety is a symptom of lockdown. Lockdown is the cause. Lockdown is the problem.

I notice that Radical Socialite George Galloway has been promoting the vile Piers Morgan. (How did Galloway fool so many for so long?) My empathy and respect goes to Denise Welch, whom Piers Morgan publicly savaged recently.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 15, 2020 12:14 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Re: How did Galloway fool so many for so long?

It’s a good question. Around a decade ago I gave Galloway about five seconds of thought. What is it that other people saw which I didn’t?

Geoff
Geoff
Sep 15, 2020 1:21 PM

Must admit he had my attention a couple of years ago , until he came out with ” there should be an international law used against anyone denying the holocaust” that was it for me, and lately calling protesters ‘scum’ for protesting outside Prime Minister Cummings house after he drove thirty miles to test his eyes out, a complete phoney.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 15, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  Geoff

The Holocaust is a nightmarish glimpse into the abyss.

Nazi documents have been used in court against Holocaust deniers. I find Holocaust denial repugnant. It’s whitewashing events when the victims can’t speak for themselves.

There’s a difference between saying someone doesn’t believe it and publicly disputing it ever happened.

Geoff
Geoff
Sep 15, 2020 3:28 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Well if you say you don’t believe it, you must obviously think it never happened, but what revisionists dispute is the 6 million people being gassed, the International Red Cross has altered the plaque outside Auschwitz from 6 million to 3 million last time it was 1.2 million there are people from the jewish fraternity who openly state it was a ploy to gain sympathy, have a look at the holocaust by David Cole, himself a jew, the point about Galloway is what happened to free speech, he’s trying to stop it.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 15, 2020 4:57 PM
Reply to  Geoff

As if that makes a difference?

Is a million OK?

There’s a list as long as your arm of non Jews who were also murdered by the Nazis. And now the same dynamic of the Holocaust is being replayed: snitch on your neighbours, divide and rule, curfews, germs etc..

There’s also denialist scum who say the rape of Nanjing never happened, or that it was ‘exaggerated’ to gain sympathy, or that the Armenian Genocide never happened etc. ad nauseam.

You don’t exist to me.

Geoff
Geoff
Sep 15, 2020 7:21 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Well who the fuck did you reply to? oh. before I go, don’t forget the reason we went to war with Germany was to fight the nazis wasn’t it ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha , you idiots will believe anything, go and get your mask on son.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Sep 16, 2020 1:51 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

“Eyes Open” … ironic.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 19, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

With the job losses, snitching may become a livelihood.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 5:58 PM
Reply to  Geoff

Geoff yes, also there is a very good book called “How I learned to stop being a Jew” by an Israel Shlomo Sand in which he talks about the Holocaust Industry upon which successive Israeli Governments have built on to invade and bomb countries, subjugate dehumanise and torture the Palestinians including the Massacre at Jenin and others. They are and will continue to get away with being an Apartheid State too on the back of the Holocaust.

Muggles
Muggles
Sep 15, 2020 4:49 PM

Was is the fedora hat?

Mucho
Mucho
Sep 15, 2020 12:33 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

These players must be judged by their stance on 911. George Galloway, Noam Chomsky, Craig Murray. Frauds, the lot of them. If you cannot be honest about 911, and Covid, and you are intelligent enough to know better, and you actively deceieve your readership, you’re scum. They are scum and the human race is suffering badly as a result of their cynical and deliberate misleading of their audiences

gordon
gordon
Sep 15, 2020 12:50 PM
Reply to  Mucho

in less time than the free fall collapse of building 7
on the 9 and 11 ritual
in seconds
everyone can be defined
by the 9 and 11 ritual
positions
hold
held

hell

control demolition
controlled opposition
own all sides
that”s the position

Adi Ha
Adi Ha
Sep 15, 2020 1:02 PM
Reply to  gordon

You disrespected me in another thread, think I am from a certain brigade that inside my head is in the same league as paedophiles, that hurt me some as I always have liked and appreciated your style. Question you need to answer inside your own head.. did they take the filthy luchre? Why are they trying to discredit themselves? Still one thing that comes out of all this madness we begin to see folk for who they truly are. The lack of grace, time and integrity to deal with a mistake of their own making is about to snowball into something not of my choosing, I choose my side and with your disrepect I think you are on the other side do you get paid by the boys with the shed load of trombones plus one? When admin click they can see how fucking easy it is to slip under… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 15, 2020 1:29 PM
Reply to  Mucho

For sometime I was fooled by Wesley Clark; though I always retain a degree of scepticism with regard to these people. The usual 9/11 litmus test doesn’t apply quite in the same way when it comes to somebody who’s required to stay within certain boundaries; and so this wasn’t an automatic reason for rejecting Clark.

paul
paul
Sep 15, 2020 9:48 PM
Reply to  Mucho

I think Galloway and Chomsky want to talk about issues like Palestine, Wall Street fraud etc., and are fearful that the MSM will give blanket coverage to them denying 9/11 to bury all their activism in other areas. Not saying I agree with their approach, but Galloway tries to turn it back on them – why are you bankrolling the same terrorists in Syria who you say did 9/11? etc.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 15, 2020 2:00 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

The bastards behind this agenda have had access to the World’s preeminent psychologists, behavioural scientists and medical professionals for a long time. They know exactly what the effects of lockdowns will have on many people.
It’s a very deliberate strategy. We are dealing with complete psychopaths here.
As for fecken Galloway. Pfff. A long list of treacherous sellouts have been revealed to us this year.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2020 2:43 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Galloway is a showboat. He is an act in search of a venue. What ever brings in the crowds and the ratings brings in George. At the end of the days his pontifications (some of which are accurate and beneficial) are for the greater glory and good of George and not of humanity.

stewart crowe
stewart crowe
Sep 15, 2020 4:21 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Galloway, better known as the twat with the hat

Helen Back
Helen Back
Sep 15, 2020 6:57 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Galloway was never the same after the roughing up by Blair’s hired muscle.
It was a message to tone it down, take the money, and retire with both legs intact.

John the First
John the First
Sep 15, 2020 11:33 AM

Whatever you do, never go as deep as thinking about root causes. The so called sensitive and ‘resilient’ people should never trespass on the leading beliefs which are upheld by the perhaps 98 percent, regardless of whether are they are the alleged good or bad. These almost all encompassing articles of contemporary secular faith are: The belief in democracy. The belief in media, the fundamental belief that news media can describe reality (this article of faith springs from the belief in democracy). The belief in democracy inevitably comes down to the belief that somehow the majority, ‘the peoples majority’ have the right to determine the arrangements in society, which also means that they determine the agenda, nay, dictate the agenda. Ultimately in the current situation this leads to mass democratic hostility, paranoia and stress in all kinds of forms. Among the conspiracy theorists there are even narratives which go as… Read more »

John Deehan
John Deehan
Sep 15, 2020 11:30 AM

Whilst Morgan was hosting his show in the US, he had Jesse Ventura as a guest. During the course of the conversation, JV said that 9/11 was a staged event and no one could believe a word of the official narrative concerning the towers collapsing because airliners had flown crashed into them. Morgan was outraged and asked do you seriously believe that 9/11 official accounts are untrue. The tone in his voice and his body language indicated an opportunity for him to discredit and ridicule JV. However, JV asked the audience in the studio who does not believes the official account. A sea of hands rose in unison. The expression of Morgan’s face was priceless!!!

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 3:31 PM
Reply to  John Deehan

Morgan confirming, if it wasn’t obvious already, he is a total twat!

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 15, 2020 11:23 AM

Very good article, especially the final part. I haven’t watched TV for many years, and had no idea Piers Morgan had become so dreadful. Not watching TV, especially The News, is extremely good for the Soul. Occasionally, as a result of visiting relatives, I have had to watch The News, in order not to be offensive. I then have to try and keep my mouth shut, and not say things like “this is complete and utter rubbish” “this is not news” , as the blatant propaganda leaps out of the screen and hits me in the face like a big wet fish. I am not surprised most people have become masked, brainwashed lemmings, having to endure hours of this propaganda every day. Bin your Mask, Bin your TV, get a FACE MASK EXEMPT Badge and “resolve to always stand up to bullies”, or they won’t go away, and will make… Read more »

Muggles
Muggles
Sep 15, 2020 11:02 AM

Slightly off topic but if you have money, Watergen fresh water generator
https://www.watergen.com/

YeahBut
YeahBut
Sep 15, 2020 1:41 PM
Reply to  Muggles

They are basically dehumidifiers. Every now and then some company, academic or crowdfunder promotes a rerun of this technology, which has always seemed to me like a solution looking for a problem, especially the supposedly humanitarian applications for which it’s normally far too expensive to run.

Muggles
Muggles
Sep 15, 2020 2:30 PM
Reply to  YeahBut

I have used dehumidifiers but they wouldn’t keep a family of four in fresh water, unless you had four of them and lived in a rainforest. I don’t know what these cost and can’t afford it anyway, but it looked interesting. Apologies.

Elrin
Elrin
Sep 15, 2020 3:40 PM
Reply to  Muggles

You can’t drink water from a normal dehumidifier! Sure this thing has its place. Not for me though.

Elrin
Elrin
Sep 15, 2020 3:18 PM
Reply to  Muggles

Nominal power consumption of 700W. No thanks!

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Sep 15, 2020 10:54 AM

When you have to deal with Piers Morgan you have only two choices: YOu use vituperative language so off the scale on live TV that Piers Morgan’s reputation is terminally damaged as 95% of viewers and fellow media ‘stars’ think the guy is a scheming, repulsive pile of dog turds. You use the ‘whispering death’ approach to argument, where you gently expose Morgan’s crass ignorance through gentle questions. Here are a few you could ask: a. Which metal ion must be of the correct concentration for PCR reactions to work? Luckily, I know the answer to this one as in the very early years of PCR, researchers used to calibrate each set of primers for optimal reactions and I did that myself on at least six separate occasions. Morgan will not know the answer to that unless he asks someone. b. Why is a transient outbreak of Covid19, which has… Read more »

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 15, 2020 12:00 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Rhys

All good points. Perhaps even more significantly, I would relish seeing those same questions put spontaneously to GMB’s resident medical ‘expert’ Dr Hilary Jones or the BBC’s pet GP Dr Sarah Jarvis who is as complicit in the scam as Hilary Jones.

YeahBut
YeahBut
Sep 15, 2020 1:56 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Regarding the availability of tests, just at the moment in the UK we are back to testing only those with symptoms, and even those sparingly, because we have run out of tests, or something like that. The lack of testing should at least be good for keeping the “case” count down temporarily.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 6:10 PM
Reply to  YeahBut

YeahBut, I think it is better to substitute the word “test” instead of case. In some countries it has been found that there hasn’t been a spike in CV-19 but rather, a spike in the number of tests. The other thing is that is never said is that the PCR test delivers a lot of false positives as it was not designed for viruses. It also cannot distinguish between a ‘dead’ virus where previously you have had a cold or flu and your body’s immune system has dealt with it and a ‘live’ virus. It records them both as ‘live’. Not a reliable test by any circumstances.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 9:58 AM

What a fantastic article, this is more of the positive stuff I think we all need to read. Admin, please can you tell me which of the authors wrote this:

I had also began researching world events in more depth and what troubled me most was the inability of other people to understand what was going on in the world, such as regime change agendas in places such as Syria and the new Cold War mentality. It was a kind of huge frustration and powerlessness I felt on both counts.’

Reading this has lifted my spirits, it sums up my own anxiety succinctly.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 15, 2020 10:01 AM
Reply to  Ælfræd

I don’t have that information I’m afraid. I just moderate comments. Maybe one of the authors will drop in and tell you

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 12:47 PM

Whichever one it is, you resonate with me! Big love coming your way from Northern England!

L Catt
L Catt
Sep 15, 2020 1:41 PM

then moderate this,, say sorry and I am done with you cunts and never again will I send any soul here for information and to wake them up, your recent 9/11 fest is enough to scare most off.. wankers.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 4:18 PM
Reply to  L Catt

Catt what you talking about? How so?

RichT
RichT
Sep 15, 2020 10:28 AM
Reply to  Ælfræd

At the bottom of the article there is a link to the original, on that page the author is stated as Kevin Smith.

Righteous rabbit
Righteous rabbit
Sep 15, 2020 12:31 PM
Reply to  RichT

Both Kevin and I (Lesley Buckley). Name was spelt incorrectly but that’s ok

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 15, 2020 5:10 PM

We will correct it!

Righteous rabbit
Righteous rabbit
Sep 15, 2020 5:21 PM

Thanks

Koba
Koba
Sep 15, 2020 9:53 AM

Piers Moron has a looooooong history of deluded dumb opinions based on very few facts and an even longer history of lying. His history of having a go at women is very recent. But that’s to be expected of someone who got chinned by Jeremy ‘posh boy never been in a fight’ Clarkson

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 15, 2020 9:44 AM

Why is anyone still engaging with the Dark Satanic Mills?

David
David
Sep 15, 2020 9:41 AM

Sorry admin I seem to have used two names to post views. I do apologise. Nothing sinister intended. The current state of affairs and it’s damaging affect on descent people is of great concern and I have written one view with a pseudonym intended to highlight the point I was trying to make.
This I conceded was misguided.
Please accept my opology.

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 15, 2020 9:38 AM

Elite athletes piloting the sort of ‘solution’ that’s coming down the road for the rest of us:

https://wisden.com/stories/play-and-submit-taking-players-enjoyment-away

bob
bob
Sep 15, 2020 10:33 AM
Reply to  Edwige

excellent find …. control Alastair Cook and you control the team …. no wonder Pietersen didn’t stand a chance

this is all about AI and behaviour modification

behaviour modification = pure unadulterated carrot and stick process = reward/punishment = fascism

David
David
Sep 15, 2020 9:30 AM

Piers Morgan has talent and it is used for the benefit of Piers Morgan, or so he imagines. There are those who have harnessed his talent for their benefit and we know their agenda.
I wonder if Piers Morgan fully understands who he really benefits. I feel sorry for him.
A talent used to quell reasoned debate through bullying and spreading fear. How sad.
If, as I suspect, he is a kind person in ordinary life, it offers an example of how someone, even with a strong ego, can be coerced into being a tool for oppression.
I think the term is an unwitting henchman.
That is being kind to him. Because if he is in full knowledge of who is setting his agenda and why, then I will leave him to his karma.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 3:36 PM
Reply to  David

Great comment.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Sep 15, 2020 8:57 AM

Piers Morgan cares about one thing, Piers Morgan. Where there is propaganda and an easy life pushing narratives to the gullible one will find Piers Morgan. The British public have not forgot the reasons why Morgan fled to america, staying there whilst the dust from his UK media disasters settled. US audiences thought he was a breath of fresh air to begin with. The shine came off that turd very quickly. Now he’s back in Blighty collecting his Reich Ministry cheque. This Morning + Piers Morgan, says it all really. They are one big happy back-slapping family of jabbering retards. Sir Alan Sugar was on the programme recently giving another talking head a lesson on critical thinking. Of course that went over Schofield’s head. I guess there isn’t much time to think critically when one is busy staying ‘on message’ whilst trying to prevent a very successful businessman from discussing… Read more »

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 10:14 AM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

Funny how he keeps saying peoples views are dangerous. Was it dangerous when he knowingly spread lies about British soldiers torturing Iraqis. He’s a fuck nugget and NWO stooge of the highest order.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Sep 15, 2020 12:08 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

His career has been tanking ever since he left the Mirror, so he already started at a low bar. The lack of shame and a concience along with a brazen face will only take him so far.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 12:48 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

I sense he’s a very high ranking employee of the global kabal. The way he was gifted major airtime in the USA despite being hated here – and now there too. That failed now hes on GMB. Anyone else would have ling since disappeared, he’s got a lot of top cover thats for sure.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 15, 2020 8:39 AM

Over the lockdown period, I have actually been forced to watch more daytime TV – and TV in general – because I have been redeployed as a residential care worker. I never realised how utterly mind numbing it is – how much it encourages people to wallow in self-obsession while provoking them to have neuroses. And that’s outside the constant COVID horror show. This show itself reminds me of the West’s old representation of a totalitarian state where there would be a constantly repeated monolithic message. And now, more than ever, I am convinced that the virus situation has created a false Matrix type world where the truth is constantly being hidden. I feel as if I am in one of those PK Dick stories featuring a totally bogus world e.g. “Time out of Joint” about a guy who thinks he is living in the 1950s but it turns out… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 15, 2020 2:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Have they still got Emmerdale Farm on? Just wondering. The world has been turned upside down George. The West has now become that old totalitarian state that they used to constantly point fingers at decades ago.
I went on that ridiculous site recently, namely WSWS, a few days after the massive protests in Berlin and around the world against the lockdown measures.
Not a peep. Not a squeak. They never happened according to those rabid ‘revolutionaries’ at the WSWS. Or should I say, the controlled opposition at that site.
And down here in Melbourne, it’s a struggle maintaining a sense of reality, when people talk about the raging pandemic and… thank god for Daniel Andrews!!

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 15, 2020 3:13 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I’m sure Emmerdale (no longer Farm) will go on forever.

One thing the lockdown showed up was how much in advance the soaps are filmed. It took about three months to get to the social distancing. And when it happened it was just ridiculous how they tried to disguise it e g. One actor addressing another across the room but reflected in a mirror beside the first.

And the guy reflected was Dean Andrews who I thought you meant by Daniel! Ah Dean, how you have fallen from Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes!

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 3:42 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Lol. Welcome to communism, comrade.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 15, 2020 4:40 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Note how I said “the West’s old representation of a totalitarian state”. Considering how much our media have lied about EVERYTHING, I wonder which society was really shafting its people?

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 6:21 PM
Reply to  George Mc

That’s a good question George Mc. What is deeply concerning in this country at least I can’t speak for any others, is the 99% level of censorship of anything that remotely looks like dissent. The cover up of the facts and the truth is astonishing and we, the sheeples, can’t be bothered to analyse anything or go and seek out proper information. Gezzah said in Melbourne people had police turn up at their door to arrest them just for posting links or joining a lock down dissent group or similar they had put on Facebook. I’m glad I don’t do any social media. However, in this censorship. crucial things have slipped under the radar such as it was written I think a day or so ago, into the Coronavirus Bill, without any Parliamentary scrutiny or debate that, if you go for a CV-19 Test they will also take a DNA… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 6:16 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Zen Priest not Communism no, never. Welcome to Fascist Totalitarianism

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 15, 2020 7:13 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

No need to argue over definitions. It is all those things. Communism is always tyrannical and thus fascist and totalitarian – it’s the only way it can last! Lol

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 15, 2020 8:21 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Keep licking that lolly lol, ZP. And maybe mummy will buy you another?

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 8:15 AM

“One of the things I was told when I suffered anxiety was that sufferers are often more intelligent and resilient than people who aren’t”
Sorry, I think that’s nonsense. It’s just a phrase used to give people a helping hand with their self esteem.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 15, 2020 8:30 AM
Reply to  lundiel

Isn’t giving people a helping hand with their self esteem what the article is all about?

polistra
polistra
Sep 15, 2020 8:39 AM
Reply to  lundiel

Thanks for providing a live illustration of bullying. The article was short on examples.

Chris
Chris
Sep 15, 2020 8:51 AM
Reply to  lundiel

In my opinion this is often correct… I assume you do not suffer from anxiety and consider yourself intelligent. I think the text on the subtlety of bullying above comes to mind

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 8:58 AM
Reply to  Chris

You assume far too much. And why do immediately leap on the bullying bandwagon? I’m posting an opinion gleaned from my experience. Can’t you allow that without attempting to close me down.

Chris
Chris
Sep 15, 2020 9:07 AM
Reply to  lundiel

We are not trying to close you down, everyone has an opinion. Discussion is the way we share those opinions. I suspect the truth is that neither side is correct but something made you call it nonsense.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 15, 2020 9:14 AM
Reply to  lundiel

What a pointless and dickish thing to say, Lundiel. All you have done is potentially make some vulnerable person somewhere feel worse.

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 9:25 AM

I’m sorry, it’s akin to saying people with Asperger’s are savants and have a special affinity with computers when they like gaming..l would also request that you contribute BTL, under a username unless you are making editorial policy announcements.

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 9:42 AM
Reply to  lundiel

I would also say that for a website that spends a great deal of time pooh-poohing coronavirus and intimating anyone who believes in it is a snowflake, your intervention here is a bit rich. I’ve never seen you intervening on behalf of the feelings of vulnerable people frightened of the virus.

Cascadian
Cascadian
Sep 15, 2020 11:21 AM
Reply to  lundiel

Lundiel – are you by any chance a qualified psychologist with in-depth familiarity regarding the statististics relating to the prevalence or otherwise of high IQ amonst those with mental health issues, perhaps?

aspnaz
aspnaz
Sep 15, 2020 1:34 PM
Reply to  Cascadian

Phychologists can do both mind and statistics? Wow! The rest of us should be prone in worship!

John Deehan
John Deehan
Sep 15, 2020 11:56 AM
Reply to  lundiel

It’s interesting you use the term “ pooh- poohing the corona virus “ because that’s exactly what Skwawkbox do to anyone who challenges the establishment narrative about the narrative. On this site, you will find expert testimony, information and links, which rarely if ever are allowed to appear in the MSM or on the State Broadcaster, challenging the official narrative. Moreover, this site permits posters, within reason, to, argue and contradict guest writer/ writers views. Unfortunately, on Skwawkbox, as we both know, Steve Walker constantly intercedes when ever his increasingly tabloid slavish devotion to the. “ pandemic “ is shown wanting. Recently the title of one his articles had the phrase “ Pandemic Deniers”. Moreover, his other tactic is threatening posters with censorship, therefore, I submit do not confuse SB with Off Guardian.

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 1:08 PM
Reply to  John Deehan

I wasn’t. I was trying to expose selective accusations under the banner of ‘vunerability’. I’m well aware Skwawky is obsessed with coronavirus, I wasn’t complaining about articles, just selective criticism. All the stuff BTL about ‘face nappies’ etc….you don’t get admin bleating about upsetting those with vulnerabilities.
And if you read the comments here, it appears I’m the one being bullied.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Sep 15, 2020 1:42 PM
Reply to  lundiel

Lundiel, welcome to the world of hypocrisy: now even OG is making me despair of my fellow man, and over such a trivial comment!

We now have sides and I am on your side: you made a fair comment, but these witch dunkers have your number: you can’t chose your allies, so I will apologize now if I don’t make the grade.

John Deehan
John Deehan
Sep 15, 2020 1:48 PM
Reply to  lundiel

Read the first of your post “ …that for a website that spends a great deal of time Pooh-poohing the corona virus..” Why make that the first line in your post if you weren’t?

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 2:14 PM
Reply to  John Deehan

Of dear. Don’t be so literal. I was talking about BTL comments not articles.

John Deehan
John Deehan
Sep 15, 2020 2:35 PM
Reply to  lundiel

Then please don’t begin your rebuttal with attacking Off-Guardian for its stance against Covid-19 ” pandemic ” narrative one of a handful of sites which have the integrity to dispute the establishment narrative!!!

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 15, 2020 1:42 PM
Reply to  John Deehan

I agree. I used to follow Skwawkbox until I noticed a definite pattern of censorship in the comments section.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 1:05 PM
Reply to  lundiel

This is different thougt because even many COVID believers admit the restrictions and response is affecting their mental health.

Elrin
Elrin
Sep 15, 2020 10:34 AM

I thought facts are sacred or something. It may be insensitive but if its the truth, lets hear it!

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 15, 2020 5:24 PM
Reply to  Elrin

It isn’t ‘the truth’, it’s Lundiel’s unsourced and uninformed opinion, which will produce no benefit or increas of understanding but to potentially demoralize a vulnerable person. Comparing that with OffG publishing factual data about the covid rollout is both hubristic and absurd.

Elrin
Elrin
Sep 15, 2020 6:12 PM

Well, he’s just pointing out that something may have been said to make someone feel better rather than intending to be totally true. I suspect there is some truth to the ‘intelligence’ part of the quote in question but I can’t see the ‘resilience’ aspect personally, quite the opposite in fact.

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 6:52 PM

Rubbish. I never criticised factual data. I made an innocuous comment BTL and you weighed in. People make comments every day on here about ‘snowflakes’, mouth nappies, etc yet you’ve never critised them for attacking vulnerable people.
You in particular should either comment BTL under an independent username with no connection to Off-G or keep your own council. You are very unprofessional and rude. Also, if you’ve got something to say to someone, communicate with them directly, don’t go talking behind their backs.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Sep 16, 2020 1:18 AM
Reply to  lundiel

If you don’t like admin here, go comment somewhere else. You made an insensitive, attention seeking remark and, lo and behold, you’re the first to moan and whinge when you feel in the slightest bit put out yourself. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out. Now grow the hell up and continue to enjoy the service provided for you. Admin 2

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 16, 2020 8:06 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

“If you can’t take it don’t dish it out” could have been applied to the overblown response to my original comment, but no, it was blown out of all proportion and Admin 1 had to declare open season on me. Then along you come to prop her up, someone probably half my age telling me to “grow the hell up”. You really couldn’t make this stuff up and you should learn some customer service skills, this isn’t your personal website; you’re an employee.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 16, 2020 8:49 AM
Reply to  lundiel

You are NOT a customer – you have paid nothing for the privilege of coming here and availing yourself of others’ hard work. Currently you are exploiting our open comment policy to be disruptive in an embarrassing and adolescent manner that ill becomes you. Let it go and move on.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Sep 15, 2020 10:33 PM

Rather than being the author’s unsources and uninformed opinion?

Why are you using an admin account to push your own opinions, why do you need to be here in uniform rather out of uniform? Your Admin behaviour is seems to be getting more and more like the “you must believe” variety. Do I have to salute you next time? Or just crawl into the gutter when you pass, maybe kissing your boots for good measure?

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 12:50 PM

I think he’s talking shite, but I have to say that we all have a hard enough time controlling our own feelings. We cannot blame others for making us feel bad, we choose how we want to feel about things.

Koba
Koba
Sep 15, 2020 9:55 AM
Reply to  lundiel

I have anxiety and can handle most situations that other people couldn’t

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 1:10 PM
Reply to  Koba

Good for you. Where did I say I didn’t?

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 12:52 PM
Reply to  lundiel

It’s not that they are more intelligent. Anxious people overthink. Thinking is a major foundation of intelligence. Thinking, however, doesn’t make one smart – which is very different to intelligence(being clever).

Muggles
Muggles
Sep 15, 2020 2:34 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

And being clever is different to being wise though there is sometimes overlap.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Sep 15, 2020 4:16 PM
Reply to  Muggles

quite.

tish
tish
Sep 15, 2020 1:50 PM
Reply to  lundiel

I guess they think by telling you that you are more inteligent and more resiliant than others is like a warped consolation prize. Mental Health illmess does care how intelligent you are, how resiliant you are or any other such nonsense. Mental Health illness knocks on any door, it does not descriminate and it ruins and often takes lives…..more research and more funding are needed because there is really a huge mental health crisis and that has been the case way before covid-19 came on the scene.

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 15, 2020 2:08 PM
Reply to  tish

Very true. Good comment.

Elvis Legg
Elvis Legg
Sep 15, 2020 10:13 PM
Reply to  lundiel

A textbook irrational social media pile on we’ve witnessed here. It’s a pathetic world we live in where grown adults can’t read or hear an opinion that doesn’t agree with their own without feeling like they are being bullied or taking offence. People get their opinions so wrapped up in their fragile egos.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Sep 15, 2020 10:43 PM
Reply to  Elvis Legg

Here here. The world of snowflakes has descended on OG, where even the Admin is slapping hands to secure the feelings of the weak.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Sep 16, 2020 1:20 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

It’s ‘hear hear’. Consider yourself firmly slapped. Maybe you’ll live to fight another day. 😉

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Sep 15, 2020 2:01 PM
Reply to  lundiel

Helping people to improve their self esteem seems like a good thing to me.

I saw an article that concluded depressed people are more intelligent. Depressed, because they can see the world more clearly. That happy people are happy because they’re immersed in a state of delusion. Don’t know if it’s true or not.

Elrin
Elrin
Sep 15, 2020 2:28 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Then again if you have emotional intelligence you would transcend that and realise positivity is vital.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 15, 2020 2:35 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Definitely rings true.

Ever since the covidiocy began, the vast majority of humans have come to look like silly, giggling monkeys to me–blissfully oblivious to the fact that they are being ground into dust by the very politicians and bureaucrats they worship…and keep worshipping!

It’s clear as day they are being attacked. Their future, and the future of their progeny, has been snatched away, replaced with a half-life of captivity and privation. Completely blind to that, they just happily chatter on about inanities…

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Sep 15, 2020 6:28 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Yes, and in the very near future when we have no civil liberties left, the Judiciary has been taken under Government control as have other institutions (the MSM already has been) and the Government will not repeal the Coronavirus Bill as no longer necessary and we have Mein Fuhrer Bojo and Oberfuhrer Cummings (not so far in the future) then people will wake up and it will be too late.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 16, 2020 12:30 AM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

I’m not sure if this is a bright side or not,
but I don’t think “the people” will ever wake up.
They will continue believing every new lie, conforming to every new fantasy, and believing that they live in the best of all possible worlds.

They’ll never have an epiphany, because they will be forever whipsawed by new developments in the “Permanent Crisis.”
Even when they are living in austere squalor, rounded up in concentration camps, nursing the festering, mutating wounds all over their bodies from the daily “maintenance shots,” separated from the families they used to have, they will extol the virtues of their overlords-and-saviors, and keep giving thanks and praise that they’re being kept “safe.”

tish
tish
Sep 16, 2020 2:14 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

I wonder is that for clinical or reactive depression. I think the type of depression people will show following covid-19 is reactive depression, which I guess is understandable. I suppose some people will and some people won’t I don’t know whether intelligent people would have a more severe reaction than those who are less intelligent……could be a good study for someone to untertake.

Clinical depression is different it is believed to be caused by a chemical imbalance, neurotransmitters getting taken up to quickly or too slowly…..but no-one really knows the answers…..they still guess yep, 21st Century and this is theory of psychiatry ‘ We know this works for some people, but we don’t know why’ ‘we will try something else if the one we first thought of doesn’t work’ and that’s the sad, hard, truth.
They did put a man on the moon in 1969 didn’t they…..mmh!

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Sep 15, 2020 7:29 AM

WARNING. includes profanities.

Mental Health issue are here with Off-G , I have been slandered by the admin and I am placed in moderation, ANY fucker here who believed thier LIE that I am a member of the 77th brigade need their fucking heads read! I know this will not get through but I am going to copy it and pass it on to folk I know to show how hard I have tried to get Off-G to retract that odious statement and they have had ample time to rectify it, instead they have chosen to either hide or ignore it, I will not be slandered like this,

Koba
Koba
Sep 15, 2020 9:57 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

Please do share it among the few people you know I’m sure they care

Cascadian
Cascadian
Sep 15, 2020 11:21 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

Ah, the toilet returns.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Sep 15, 2020 12:43 PM
Reply to  P R Ivy

Do you see the abuse I get now? all because you wrongfully accused me with not one shred of evidence of being of the 77th? Those fucking halfwits Koba and that other twat.. think you was on the money. You (off-g) knew what you was doing when you made that comment, you have started making snide remarks to several here withoug good reason, ergo I can start accusing you of taking the filthy luchre! Is that what you guys have done? and need to discredit the Off-Gaurdian brand.. good job,, I am done with you now. You obviously have little to no integerity and think you are above and beyond reproach when you make a mistake and don’t have the deceny or the courage to rectify it. How much did they pay you guys? This is my lunch break, like the fucking terminator I will be back, maybe another name,… Read more »

Elrin
Elrin
Sep 15, 2020 6:18 PM
Reply to  P R Ivy

First sign of madness you talk to yourself…..

tish
tish
Sep 16, 2020 2:19 AM
Reply to  Elrin

2nd sign is arguing back