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Save Our Rights Protest, Trafalgar Square 26 Sept

Regretfully we can’t have a man on the ground during this rally, but here is a facebook live feed which gives you a chance to hear what’s going on.

The rally was organised by the Save Our Rights campaign group, you can join their facebook page here.

We invite you all to comment, share your stories, if you have video links please share them here, and we’ll be updating this post as more info comes in.

UPDATE 1: The police have moved in and broken up the protest. No word yet on how many arrests have been made.

UPDATE 2: Certain members of the protest are reassembling in Hyde Park. We will follow up on this and link to the stream when it begins again.

UPDATE 3: Hyde park has a strong police presence and Dr. Heiko Schöning has reportedly been arrested. Here is a link to a current live feed from Hyde park.

UPDATE 4: Footage of Dr. Heiko Schöning, handcuffed, being escorted into the back of a police van. How long he will be held and what charges, if any, will be brought against him is unknown at this time. Please comment with updates as you hear them.

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TFS
TFS
Sep 30, 2020 10:05 AM

First they came for Julian Assange
And I did not speak out
Because I was first a foremost a stenographer, familia and public relations officer for the state, a member of the NUJ and someone always confused with being a Journalist

Anthony Porter
Anthony Porter
Sep 29, 2020 3:23 AM

Has anyone been reading ‘Sp!ked online’ lately? I used to think they were on ‘our side’ with this or, at least not your typical manipulated and controlled mainstream media source, until recently.
If you haven’t already, read this latest offensive from Brendan O’Neill, but please, try to control your anger!
And his is not the only one. (Both, appropriately and defensively published immediately after Saturday’s Trafalgar Square rally).
Who are they to refer to us as conspiracy theorists or even ‘nut bags’, when neither of them have a plausible explanation for the draconian assault on our liberties, which they both no less vehemently condemn than us ‘nut bags’?
I also noticed a couple of weeks ago, that this biased tabloid, packed full of cowardly ad-homenim insults levelled at informed and genuine health and scientific experts and at equally well informed, normal decent citizens: no longer allows reader’s comments. If they still did, I’m sure these two pathetic attempts at ‘journalism’ by two, very typical government manipulated establishment media propagandists, would have been effectively and rightly demolished.
‘Sp!ked’? Go to Hell Brendan O’Neill. I’ve read more honest and less biased reporting in The Guardian!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 29, 2020 4:50 AM
Reply to  Anthony Porter

More indications that the left is controlled opposition, like the NGOs, the charities, the unions.

No wonder they are so desperate to throw the term far-right at anyone outside their camp. It would be laughable if it didn’t indicate their own total capture.

CIA types have done this since at least the ’60s… See Gloria Steinem, the left-literary magazines like Encounter, the National Student Association, the Congress for Cultural Freedom.

CIA Admits ‘Total Infiltration Of Civic Organizations’ — Newspunch, Sep 2018.
https://newspunch.com/cia-infiltration-civic-organizations/

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 29, 2020 3:02 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Where is the right then?

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 29, 2020 8:43 PM

The right is the non-controlled non-opposition.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 30, 2020 10:41 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The right is what you’re a stranger to, so would therefore know nothing about it.

Simon
Simon
Sep 29, 2020 1:00 PM
Reply to  Anthony Porter

If being descent was normal then there would be a descent media since there would be a market for one. The descent people are a small minority and hence abnormal.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Sep 30, 2020 12:02 AM
Reply to  Anthony Porter

Lol.
You are either genuinely lost in a wood you don’t know the shape of or that is the first instance of the cleaving Oh-Gee away from the Spiked cohort new narrative.

The revolutionary communist party DS operation that was used to effect the left-right bridging of audience with the great BrexShit escape show.

Claire Fox has been elevated to the Lords for bringing the great unwashed left into line with the rancid English nationalist creed.

Think about it – the RCP and Spiked ultra lefties have just been recognised by the BrexShit headed most rightist government of this country since pre WW2!

That is the shape of the Wood you are screaming in.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 28, 2020 11:10 PM

Courtesy of Lockdown Sceptics this is an excellent article by Kathy Gyngell Editor of the Conservative Woman publication describing her personal experience at Saturday’s anti-lockdown rally. A sound testimony completely discrediting the police actions and MSM coverage.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-police-state-i-never-imagined-i-would-see-in-this-country/

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 28, 2020 7:55 PM

Rockefeller’s connection to China:

https://rockfound.rockarch.org/china

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 28, 2020 9:18 PM
Reply to  Researcher

“The Rockefeller Foundation (RF) had a significant history in China by the time it undertook its China Program, a rural reconstruction initiative that ran from 1935 to 1946. It had launched the China Medical Board (CMB) in 1914 and established the Peking Union Medical College (PUMC) in 1917. It supported a handful of mission colleges through the late 1920s, a legacy of the Rockefeller family’s Baptist commitments. By 1933, the RF had spent over $37 million in China, more than in any other foreign country, and most of it had been spent on the PUMC.”

Simon
Simon
Sep 28, 2020 6:58 PM

The best is to just focus on truth of healthy living and go ahead and create it right away.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 5:32 PM

Various posts of mine getting deleted again.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 28, 2020 5:51 PM

Makes you wonder what the difference is between the Guardian and Off-Guardian. LOL Perhaps it’s not as ‘off’ as they like to think it is, or maybe it is.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 28, 2020 6:11 PM

Funny how all your complaints manage to get through.

Paul_too
Paul_too
Sep 28, 2020 7:54 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And below there are at least 3 of the same claims where the supposedly censored comment is right there on the line above. Not the sharpest tool in the box.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 29, 2020 3:06 PM
Reply to  Paul_too

Obviously your slimy conformist comments never get moderated.

Paul_too
Paul_too
Sep 29, 2020 6:32 PM

Only you think being a dick troll is so non-conformist. I think you’re a plain fool.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 30, 2020 10:38 AM
Reply to  Paul_too

Yes and that’s your problem – you don’t think. Some other arsehole always doing your thinking for you.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 28, 2020 11:20 PM

you… should have never left it… A tald ya

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Sep 29, 2020 6:44 PM

Like i TOLD you already, ‘pal’ (dog food, like BP’s Purina Mills, back in the day) , just about EVERYBODY here IS intelligent enough to recognise you for what you are… and your role.
Must i list all the technical terms for your pathetic endeavours to shoehorn yourself in,
Across the board?

After over 40 years of studying the media, i mean Professionally, with military and corporate intelligence training, and from early childhood, growing up around the estates of the rothschilds, montagues, mountbattens and queeny’s new forest, after they cut it all down to build boats like the victory… you win pal, the Top Dog Trolling Award for Corporate interests in Naievety & Gaslighting. Way to go… do you get paid per comment or numbers of letters typed and number of responses, bunged into an algorithm, sponsored by … the likes of Mercer, Soros, NSA, GCHQ, Mossad, or worst of all that sub-division of The CIA/FBI, and all still clueless to the left right pendulumni of distraction, divide n’ rule?

Q. Are you surprised to find yourself under some form of scrutiny?
Jeez, i’d have blocked you from draining the swamp into OffG ages ago,
Take a break, have a kit kat, then some Pal, for dinner and play good ole’
Dogs Delight, with your algorithm… (chuckle).<

ame
ame
Sep 28, 2020 4:10 PM

  

ame
ame
Sep 28, 2020 4:11 PM
Reply to  ame

UP THE NOSE are the swabs the vaccine???? and god no’s whats in the flu nasal VACCINE spray there giving children … 

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 28, 2020 6:22 PM
Reply to  ame

I’ve just seen this account of the Covid19 test performed on children.

https://twitter.com/SeanCollins66/status/1310618335827161089

Presumably it’s the one where the stick has to touch the membrane between the nasal cavity and the brain. The US CDC website describes the procedure in detail and it states, as a guide to operatives, that the distance the stick has to be inserted is the same as the distance between the victim’s (sorry, patient’s) outer nostril and their earlobe. I don’t fancy that myself. It is extremely unpleasant and I have seen reports of people’s eyes aching for several days afterwards. Do we really know all these amateurs being randomly trained to carry out these tests at test centres know what they are doing?

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 28, 2020 9:22 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

This is bodily bio-interference.

A child should be able to spit on something, like a dry swab or a slide, instead of having anything inserted. Clearly they are dosing the children with something.

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
Sep 29, 2020 8:24 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

A couple of babies died as a result if brain damage

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 29, 2020 8:45 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

Inside ICUs, this “scientific” industry has managed to kill so many with poor or inappropriate intubation. Damage from the test swabs seems far more likely. What are the qualifications of these test technicians? I see videos of them rotating the swab once it is in. It should be sterile, but in these times of manufactured emergency, the contracts and supervision of quality may be opaque.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 29, 2020 9:13 AM
Reply to  mgeo

I agree with your comments, mgeo. My neighbour got a job at a major airport carrying out these tests on airline crew and she has no medical or scientific background at all. From her account it sounded as if they were virtually dragging people in off the street to do it. I don’t know how much training they received but I can’t see it being more than half a day. With regard to ‘rotating’, yes that was in the CDC instructions as well…the swab has to be fully rotated four or five times (at least – it may well have been more than that) to ‘pick up an adequate sample’.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 29, 2020 9:24 AM
Reply to  JudyJ
JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 29, 2020 9:29 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Indeed, Jacques. The nurses’ testimonies coming out of New York about medical errors resulting directly in the deaths of patients were appalling and, as can be deduced from your link, this goes on all the time.

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
Sep 29, 2020 8:23 AM
Reply to  ame

My immediate response is to tell her to Foxtrot Oscar. I would not let them anywhere near my children.

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 3:01 PM

The news is particularly bad today:
The lies are becoming worse and worse: claims of 1 million covid deaths
Also in the UK the government is considering a severe lockdown where you wouldnt have the right to meet anyone from another household even in your house, but and its so logical, you’d have the right to go to work.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 28, 2020 5:57 PM
Reply to  hope

And all the while the football fairies are huffing and puffing all over each other, not to mention rugby players in their scrums. How people cannot see through all this shit baffles me.

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 6:55 PM

Yes thats something I dont understand. Some kind of mass Stockholm Syndrome: feeling affection for authorities that most have trusted all their lives, that they’re there for your good, and thus are protecting you, and then you begin to love them increasingly the worse they treat you. Still I dont understand how that can actually be, but it does happen. I think a thorough psychological analysis will be warranted at some point. Ive been rereading Frankl: its very helpful, also to ensure that the measures dont affect oneself, even though one is perfectly aware of whats going on. Id advise other readers to reread Frankl, especially if your life has been particularly hit by the measures as mine has been. He talks about the damage that can happen to you when your future is taken away and you cant envisage it. So you have to rebuild it somehow and keep finding a meaning. Its only as I began to be proactive doing that the effects of measures became less on me, I mean rebuilding a new future (or at least near future, as one has no idea where all this going), centering around my main activity and purpose in life, so as to get back a meaning to my own life.
But there is another aspect of the present dystopia that has not been properly analysed: its the effect of isolation, which the measures are particularly aimed at.
Only the worst criminals are supposedly put in total isolation. Well those of us who live alone, we were put in total isolation in the country I live in, and to a very large extent we are at the moment once again (as the mask is compulsory to go out, without exemption, it actually makes it worse than before because except going out in utter darkness when no one’s about, you’re being forced to wear the mask by the population around which pressures you, not the police, which is not very present).
Isolating people is torture, a different form of torture from concentration camps, where at least you were with people, but torture nonetheless.
I know its had and still has a profound effect on me. Mainly the OffG readers keep me going. So I am most thankful to you all. I cant meet up with even my editor in chief, nor my publishers, nor my colleagues, so any work or discussion is via emails. And I also write on the computer. So basically I dont see people. There’s only one neighbour which is not in the narrative, but they’re elderly, still they’re kindly. So now and again, we have a meal together. They’re the only flesh and blood people I meet. Everyone else I know in the region are engaged in implementing the narrative (for instance one is in charge of the vaccine program) or are victims of it, so Im avoiding them like the plague (Im supposed to leave soon, but just heard that the measures are about to make it impossible, so am trying to keep my fingers crossed that they are not worsened, and anyhow those I know here find my desire to leave highly irresponsible, and implied Ill bring back covid germs into the country).
Its fine once I get down to my work, its getting down to it that is problematic except when my chief editor or my book publishers pressure me with near deadlines and keep phoning or emailing… Im thankful to them too.
In fact it would be good if later we could have a worldwide class action for torture against all authorities that are now doing this to us.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 28, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  hope

“Some kind of mass Stockholm Syndrome …psychological analysis”

An interesting phenomenon, isn’t it. It seems that people are unable to acknowledge that the government, the establishment is actually plotting against them. Most know and accept that politics are dirty and that politicians are more or less corrupt, but they won’t accept that they would foist a totalitarian regime on them.

My advantage is that I grew up in the Second World, under an oppressive government. What’s happening now is simply du deja vu. I’ve seen propaganda, blatant lies, opportunist politicians, you name it before. Most people in the First World haven’t, they probably live under an illusion akin to Fukuyama’s End of History.

There is one big difference between what I remember from my childhood and today. The country where I grew up had been under foreign rule for centuries. People were used to distrusting the establishment, to reading between the lines, to dodging the oppression. Today, I look at ordinary people in a country like Canada, and it’s the exact opposite. They trust the authorities, and they stick their heads in a noose. And many militantly force others to follow suit.

I guess the going has been too good for too long. People have forgotten that the freedom and the living standard they have had to be fought hard for. And that the devil never rests.

There is enough information out there and the restrictions being imposed are so outrageously ridiculous that anybody with their head screwed on right have to see that something is not right. The coming months will show whether the psychological block, whatever it is, is stronger than the perception of reality and willingness, courage to oppose.

just a person
just a person
Sep 28, 2020 9:17 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I also grew up under oppressive regime and I agree with you completely. The most glaring tell-tale signs are forbidding gatherings, means of social discourse and making regular people into informants.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Sep 29, 2020 1:30 AM
Reply to  Jacques

“The coming months will show whether the psychological block, whatever it is, is stronger than the perception of reality and willingness, courage to oppose.”

That’s what I’m waiting too: Whether our animal instinc kicks in at long last, when things get really rough (e.g. chasing people to get vaccinated).

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 29, 2020 7:32 AM

I’m not holding my breath. The salami-slice strategy they’re using is very clever and effective; most people are tragically unaware of the modern-day slavery they live in. Likewise, the conditioning to which people are subjected is enormous. Most people don’t live in their own reality – they simply follow a script.

Now’s about the time when people should be waking up en masse and questioning things, but it’s not really happening.

I’m expecting that further efforts will be made to ramp up testing. People will be forced to get a test like on a weekly, daily, or hourly basis. Then, they’ll be given the choice to have a testing chip implanted, which will monitor the presence of COVID-19 among other handful of features. Or something like that. You could imagine various scenarios along these lines. Including vaccination. Will that make people stop in their tracks and say no? Many will probably be facing an existential crisis by then, if the economy continues to be screwed up, and the government will offer them some handouts in exchange for compliance.

How people decides will show what their real commitment to freedom is.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Sep 30, 2020 6:09 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Just don’t give the bastards too many ideas, they may be reading your comment and just do what you are expecting them to do.

We ought to stop being fascinated by what they could do to us, stop using their language, which is an implicit sign of a beginning of surrender, and start thinking about the reasons the vast majority, worldwide, are taking it as naturally as a child takes up a candy. I know those like us who are seeing through this show (probably because we have had unusual experiences like depression, lonelinesses, traumas, heavy losses, etc., with lots of time and propensity for deep thinking, and lived mostly in the margins of conventional society, and thus unwillingly escaped media indoctrination and were able to find worth in what we are, not what we may acquire), know the reasons generally but we ought to go into the practical details, the devil is in the details someone said; objectively study the whole phenomena of popular reaction to this from all points of view and come up with a plan of action, objective and concrete action.

This hasn’t started in 2019, nor is it about a virus; it hasn’t started in this nor in the last century; it’s just the next logical step after countless studied steps, and unless something we are unaware of is going on in people’s minds right now that will cause massive awakenings, we can’t reasonably expect a 180° turn in the direction of events soon if that doesn’t come first from the “authorities”, but we can at least start setting the right path leading to victory over the tyrants and it will take all the wisdom we can get. This is about radical change in human life, that’s why, in my humble opinion, we should tackle it as objectively and as scientifically as possible if we are serious about it, for that’s exactly what “they” did to get us where we are; they used science and knew the outcomes they wanted to get beforehand, and I’m sorry to say they succeeded as far as most people are concerned; no point in denying reality or blaming people, which are literally under a spell, for not seeing through the whole piece of theatre. Realize this: Can you escape gravity on earth? The answer is no. You may not like gravity, despise it, mock it, but your can’t escape it; its effects are as rigorous as the proposition: 1 + 1 = 2. So is the effect of the spell under which most people are today; it uses behaviour modification techniques based on cold exact science and unavoidably delivers its results. So there is no point in wasting energy on blaming people. We ought instead to understand the phenomena to find out what can be done about it, and how, in practical terms, that can be achieved.

Most of the solutions we may come up with may already be in place, for example setting up our own radio station, sites like this one, public talks, etc. and it is a puzzle as to why these initiatives, for long periods of time of favourable circumstances, couldn’t effect the expected change, if changes were sought that is, so we ought to study why is that. Arbitrary, isolated, violent actions will only get us denounced by our neighbors or even family members who have become unwitting foot soldiers for tyranny (we have to study that too), arrested and beaten up; that way, we would only succeed in hijacking our own cause.

Our action must stem from firm convictions if it is to resist the blows it will certainly receive. For example, ask ourselves questions like:
-Who are we, and whom do we represent?
-What’s wrong with the current social organisation? Evidence?
-What social organisation are we aiming for? Why is it better than the current one?
-Are we sure we are doing the right thing?
-What do we mean by “right thing”?
-What evidence do we have to back that up?

If we don’t share principles and convictions our actions will lack strength and confidence; also we risk to be defeated by our internal contradictions.

I think that the only way radical change could come about is through massive wakening-ups to reality, and that can be obtained if we remove the first culprit: media influence (see Marshall McLuhan’s “The Medium is the Message”) and replace it by old-fashioned real life discussions and debates among communities,velevating thus the intellectual level of everyone.

As for organising and coordinating all of these activities, it’s obvious that it must avoid the digital “world”; nothing but real-life organisation will do. I’ll give a hint here of one possible way: look up the method Algerian resistance was organised from 1954 to 1962.

richard
richard
Oct 1, 2020 8:15 PM

77

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Oct 3, 2020 7:51 PM
Reply to  richard

77th brigade you mean? Possibly; that’s the point about digital interaction: one never knows who is who, doesn’t it? We may be both 77 or neither of us, or one of us. But your concise response does prove my point: if like-minded people want to unite and effectively organise towards the realization of a concerted change, NOTHING short of old-fashioned real life interactions, meetings, recruiting, debates, plannings, will do.

Jacques
Jacques
Oct 1, 2020 9:10 PM

I totally agree with you.

We can’t go back to the old normal because the old normal is what has lead to this cataclysm. We have to find a new view of the world, better than the old normalcy, something that people would embrace instead of the digital dystopia that’s in the making. Preserve the good things from the times BC (before coronavirus) and take life to another level. Perhaps use AI to work to the benefit of humanity as opposed to enslaving it.

As you say, some people already live such lives, shun the conventional way of life, the ridiculous chase after happiness that can only be achieved, instantly in fact, by stopping it. The question is how to convince or educate others to see through this, to stop participating in the madness, to live their own lives instead of following a script. Plus, this needs to be done kinda fast for the truth is that the PTBs have been prepping what is happening now for a long time. We’re facing an uphill battle.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Oct 2, 2020 7:01 PM
Reply to  Jacques

In my small way, I talk to people in the streets whenever I have the opportunity. 2 days ago I was trying to convince someone I met on the streets on the absurd, inhumane new fashion of face covering. The man was literally asleep and the bottom line of his argument is that “everyone is wearing masks”, and “the death toll is high”. When I told him that the virus is a social one (don’t like the word contagious, just social) like any other virus and it is to be expected to find it in most people (if we trust the test, that is) and that it is likely that thus most of dead had it but died of already existing chronic diseases, that myself never wore a mask in the open air all these months and nevertheless feeling well, he nodded, agreed and left. I only hope I ucceeded in shaking his faith in everything he got from the media.

This we can do individually everyday in our neighborhood.

Then, there are collective efforts going on like the “News Earth Project” which today held a 4-hour broadcasting with renown doctors like, Dolores Cahill, Zach Bush, Rashid Buttar, David Martin, Del Bigtree and more; and other personalities like Robert Kennedy Jr., Rocco Galati, etc. The point is to share these kind of info as widely as possible to counter the media effect. I haven’t watched TV for years, and another thing one can do is wreck one’s TV set, and find some excuse for the family. The point is trying to expand true knowledge at our small level and withing already existing collective efforts.

Less media coverage means more people waking up, and more power to leverage things. If the tyrants still don’t want to listen and come down with military and police to enforce vaccines, I’ll join some underground movement that sure would have been created and fight from there

hope
hope
Sep 29, 2020 2:08 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Im also originally from a country where let us things havent been well for ages. My parents moved to France when I was very small partly for political reasons… Also indeed in the 40s my grandparents lost everything, my mother was then a teenager. With such a family background you do acquire a sense of things, and you dont grow up trusting authorities. And yes like you I think people at least in Europe have had such an easy life for some generations that they have lost their fighting spirit.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 29, 2020 11:57 AM
Reply to  hope

“Yes thats something I dont understand. Some kind of mass Stockholm Syndrome: feeling affection for authorities that most have trusted all their lives, that they’re there for your good, and thus are protecting you, and then you begin to love them increasingly the worse they treat you. Still I dont understand how that can actually be, but it does happen.”

This reminds me of an experiment carried out in Japan, I believe, where this scientist placed some rice in three glass beakers with some water. He then over a period of time proceeded to speak to the first beaker of rice in a kindly encouraging way. The second he shouted at angrily telling the rice it was useless and fit for nothing, and the third beaker of rice he completely ignored. The first beaker grew vigorously. The second beaker much less so and the rice in third beaker died.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 29, 2020 12:02 AM
Reply to  hope

All the “severe” is just a matter of their running to our piggy Banks when a big big Bill must be paid, to get a new fix of our loot so they can keep up with that pesky Chinese loan shark.

That’s what Manzanar (Japanese-American internment in California 1942-44) was all about. Under colour of wartimes “national security” they took them all away a few hundred miles north (from their pricey homes in coastal LA) and detained them under un-housed arrest.

When the (Japanese)American families got back, there was nothing left. In two years: mansions, gone. Yachts, sailed away somewhere, scarce. Priceless 4th century BC Japanese artwork: now in some stranger’s very private collection.

That’s what these acts of state in crisis are mostly about, busting the public’s private piñatas to grab all the goodies inside, leaving us with the paper maché, curly ribbons: trash.

That’s mostly what Big Resets are all about.

Periodic shearing of the sheeple. Baaaa.

Thought it’s worth putting in simplest $&£ terms, since the temptation seems so great to get distracted by their viral pretext.

Whenever Boris and known associates have a cash-flow problem, or we do, anywhere, expect a resurgence of highly selective “severe lockdowns” to reappear. And on and on.

hope
hope
Sep 29, 2020 2:09 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Its indeed a question of money and of total control.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 28, 2020 2:22 PM

Here is an interesting summary of ‘crystal ball’ events that have occurred over the past few years, foretelling the occurrence of a pandemic right now which appears to follow the foreseen scenario to the letter, and analysing the implications.

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/planned

I don’t know who is behind ‘Stop World Control’ but someone has done their homework and has put it all together in a very professional manner for readers to, at least, see what has gone before so they can make their own minds up.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 28, 2020 3:18 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Hello JudyJ: EXCELLENT web site! Very professional and well researched. > Well worth reading. Thanks for the heads up.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 28, 2020 10:08 PM

I’m not so keen on that website. It lists Dr. John Coleman whose background is unverifiable, as is his name, and who supposedly plagiarized Eustace Mullins.

They really need to remove that reference. Also the song. Irrelevant. Stick to the facts.

And there’s no mention of the vaccine patents and the licensing agreement between Moderna and NIH that was initiated in 2015.

People who are avoiding that specific topic and won’t expose the truth about the origin of the vaccines are the main problem, focusing on masks or other trivial topics. Numerous people would have to explain their lies about the vaccine development timeline, including journalists, pharma, scientists and government representatives.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 29, 2020 3:05 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Hello Researcher: I agree. There are always pieces missing on the great chess board… There are some hard data web sites out there too, but the flashy looking web pages get more pedestrian traffic. The one I recommended had pretty good flow and presented a good overview of the mess we’re in.

I think it’s important for people to research data from numerous sources then sift through the wreckage.

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 3:35 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Thanks for the link Judy.
However I looked at the details for one of them about a system and method for testing for covid 19” presumably dating from 2015. If you actually download the actual document what you get is that it is to determine whether the user is suffering from a viral infection, such as covid 19”, and the application for the patent is 2020, and there is a list of previous applications. So to be very precise what one will be told is that previous applications were for viral infection” in general, and covid 19 was added in 2020. This is what they said about the testing kits that had been ordered. And in that instance they did tell the truth. The current page said the kits had been ordered for covid 19, but in effect they had been ordered I think for just viral infection or flu or something, and its just that in 2020 the category numbering and naming changed.

So basically you see to make a court case or to convince the unconvinced and not to be
attributed the label conspirationist” you have to be very careful of the evidence you produce. I had previously looked at the detailed language used in previous documents suggesting they had planned covid 19. The nearest I could find to an avowal was the Rockefeller Institute one, where on the first page or so it explains what it means by a simulation or scenario. Because you see anyone clever or intelligent enough, so minded to predict the future based on the situation of a few years ago, and extremely deeply aware of the information available at the time, with excellent political acumen and also excellent all round erudition, could have predicted this scenario.
I knew such a person (a very good person, a truly dedicated one, now no longer living).
Unfortunately in those days I was not so interested. I wish I had been, I wish I had made the most of knowing her and discussed more in detail with her. You might say so goes history: Im sure many OffG readers would have been far better suited to have been this person’s best and closest friend than I was. I was not up to being the best repository of what she used to say. Didnt always listen even. You might say she did pass on her values to me, and those I never forsook in my little limited life, and for the last few years, Ive been trying to follow in her footsteps. Except I have neither her intelligence, nor her acumen, nor her erudition…

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 28, 2020 4:03 PM
Reply to  hope

I was going to write something along the lines of your first and second paragraphs. I’ve seen most of the documents referenced in the text before, and none of them is the smoking gun. Not only they are all explicable in a relatively plausible way, but also to convince the unconvinced, there would have to be something much more substantial.

I’d say that the documents mentioned after about 29:00 are much more solid a piece of evidence against the CV crap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jwRcKePME

Added benefit: du francais quebecois … hope you’ll enjoy it … 😉 …

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 7:24 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Thanks for the link Jacques.
Indeed, francais quebecois: it reminds me of a funny episode. We were having dinner, most were French, and there was this one couple from Quebec. At some point one of the French kindly said: “if its easier for you, you can switch to English”.
Also on French TV, its not totally unusual to have subtitles when someone has a strong Quebecois accent.
Taking about TV: my one reasonable neighbour told me that people they know are all getting rid of their TVs.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 28, 2020 8:14 PM
Reply to  hope

Canadian French is the “real” French … 😀 … It’s well preserved 17th century French. Many of the “mistakes” les Quebecois make are due to the fact that l’Academie Francaise has changed the grammar rules, but Quebeckers haven’t. I spent in Quebec some of the happiest moments of my life. To a large extent, the history of Quebec is an ongoing struggle for freedom.

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 8:35 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Yes Indeed you’re very right. Its the old pure French.
Ill reply to your other comment tomorrow. Have to get on with the proofs of my book, and then go to sleep.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 28, 2020 5:12 PM
Reply to  hope

Hi hope

Thanks for your comments. I certainly understand the points you make about many of the ‘predictions’ being unlikely to withstand legal scrutiny. But the reason I posted the information is because it makes a very good comprehensive summary of the points and coincidences raised by many sceptics.

I accept that it may be possible to objectively defend a number of these occurrences on a singular basis, but it is viewing so many homogeneous occurrences en masse, all with an identical message, that supports the suspicions of many that something co-ordinated is going on. All right, I would not delude myself that they provide an incontrovertible basis to support the contention that the pandemic scenario has been contrived. But they should be sufficient to at least get people to take a closer look at what is happening around them and remove their blinkers to think about it.

As I said at the end of my earlier comment, people can make their own minds up about what they make of the information. But for the sake of transparency it is inappropriate to simply turn a blind eye to these many coincidences and examples of marvellous foresight.

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 5:46 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Hi again Judy!, I fully agree with you, a bit like the barristers in court, who rapidly introduce a perspective, and then the judge says that the jury should overlook that because its not admissible, but then it has been said, and it remains in the jurors’ minds.

But the problem is from what I am seeing that a large number of people (majority?) are quite adamant we are into conspiracies, and evidently so is anyone, authorities, media, or those manipulating them, implementing the current tyranny. And hence what I feel is they come fully armed to any conversation (thats if you can get them to talk), and only if you can argue your points in detail with solid evidence can you get the better of them.

In fact I found out to my utter dismay that the label conspiracy theorist” is one actually invented some years ago quite deliberately by the very deep state advising governments (found it in an official government documentation).
I had missed this term as I was busy with my own work in the last few years.
One did hear it now and again, but I never imagined it was about people like me, given Im particularly keen on hard evidence. The first time I started actually hearing it so consistently was when I was trying to help out the rare French people who had a site in appearance dedicated to giving proper info about the covid narrative. The man behind it from day 1 kept telling me that this or that was conspiracy, that he trusted I would stay clear of conspiracies. I really couldnt understand what he was going on about as I always found anything on the most solid data. I just thought he was ignorant. I wish I had realized that
it was more than that, that it meant that possibly his aim was doubtful.
Then suddenly since the protests began in August, I see everywhere we are labelled conspiracy theorists. Thats when I realized that it indeed was targeting people like me. So since then Im very careful when I write. As I told my editor in chief, there may be immense amount of references, but I want the reader to see that none of the points I make is opinion, all is watertight fact. In fact she keeps trying to go further than I say, and our arguments are always about me saying, but do the references we have justify it sufficiently… I know she gets tired with my incessant prudence!

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 28, 2020 6:03 PM
Reply to  hope

I agree wholeheartedly with your stance on this, hope. I think one or two of the ‘conspiracy theories’ do have some credibility but I have learnt, when pro-maskers ask me why governments would force us to do things that aren’t necessary, to simply say that I don’t know. I focus on the facts about the PCR test, comparison with previous pandemics and the manipulation of statistics. I think those are good solid starting points to justify questions about governments’ actions.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 28, 2020 6:10 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Actually, I have a bit of a problem with the stuff in the text myself. Most of it are references to what somebody has said, which can easily be seen as the appeal to authority fallacy. Likewise, there are unsubstantiated hints, with not much factual information.

I find that this analysis, for example, is much more informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

Likewise, there are resources demonstrating that the mickey-mouse PCR tests they’re using are totally unable to detect anything, or that they detect stuff that most people might have present in their body.

On the other hand, since the puppeteers of the PTB/media are using underhanded tactics, anything that can sway a born again covidiot the other way is good.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 28, 2020 7:07 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Thanks, Jacques. I agree that Ivor Cummins presentation is excellent and really gets to the heart of the matter. I saw on Twitter that the well known UK journalist and former newsreader Alistair Stewart had seen it too and been quite impressed, although he added that he thought it was ‘a little on the long side’. At 37 minutes, I ask you!

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 28, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

I hear ya. It is long. And it is rather technical and probably hard to grasp for a lot of people. Especially those who might be skeptical to begin with. Which is probably the biggest problem with this circus – to understand the crap, one has to scratch deep under the surface, look at statistics, learn stuff about medical procedures (such as PCR tests), and so on. It’s not easy to convince people with some simple arguments that would instantly debunk the lies. In that regard, the page you’ve cited is useful because, even though it’s questionable from the factual viewpoint.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 28, 2020 7:49 PM
Reply to  hope

False.

But that’s not what happened. The website was not altered until after the fact. I compared the source codes and checked the wayback machine.

And, RT-PCR tests are not generally used for flu detection. Only if needed to determine a specific or new outbreak.

Usually a diagnosis of flu does not include a test. If a clinician decides to administer a test it will most likely be a rapid Influenza Diagnostic Test performed on site. RIDT.

Even when a rapid molecular assay is performed, which is rarer, an RT-PCR test is one of a number of molecular assays available.

In fact the spike in the production of these assays and the preparation for them goes back to 2015, as does the agreement between Moderna and NIH for the technology transfer licensing of the vaccine.

As do many other of the entities involved and laws go back specifically to 2015.

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 8:26 PM
Reply to  Researcher

So thats interesting. You mean in the 2015 version of the page they mention covid-19? If thats the case, then thats certainly proof.
Could you please give me a link? Im not very good at internet stuff. I tried finding a pre-2020 page on the wayback machine, but couldnt.

Wait a second, Im not talking about PCR’s, its the one about data transmission, which expressly mentions covid-19. So if that is mentioned on a webpage prior to 2020, then that would be QED, and the whole thing could now be stopped. Cant believe they’d have slipped on that. They always leave things borderline.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 28, 2020 9:29 PM
Reply to  hope

Data transmission? Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about.

Link?

hope
hope
Sep 29, 2020 7:15 AM
Reply to  Researcher
Researcher
Researcher
Sep 29, 2020 10:59 PM
Reply to  hope

Didn’t see that. Not that it’s relevant whether they changed the name of the patent from the original parent patent adding “Covid19” since it’s obvious the inventor intended it to be for the collection of biometric data for their bioinformatics block chain economy proving they knew they were going to use this system for COVID.

The patent submission date would still be 2015. How can they get a patent approved in six months? In the US it takes at least 1.5 years even for the government to get their patents approved.

I was referring to the World Bank site, anyway. But thanks for clarifying.

hope
hope
Sep 30, 2020 7:29 AM
Reply to  Researcher

I understand what you mean, but the fact is that we would need something watertight to convince others and stop this dystopia. They might just have wanted to collect data of people with supposedly some infectious disease.
I mean saying they knew is extrapolating, and then we’re open to being accused of being conspiracy theorists. We have to keep what you say as a working hypothesis and try to gather evidence for that. But at the moment its a working hypothesis.

John the First
John the First
Sep 28, 2020 6:59 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

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What Gates meant is ‘best sales’ in the health industry, simply ordinary sales marketing language, while the consumerist buyer gets his pockets emptied in exchange for junk. The market has never been so big, the pharmaceutical industry, upon reading this line is also already mouthwatering from excitement. It is psychological foreplay for the business.

John the First
John the First
Sep 28, 2020 7:08 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

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Notice it is also posted just for Christmas, it signals congratulations with your prospects for the next year to the industry , so they can toast on the upcoming success in the new year with their family and business partners. The psychological group foreplay is very important, prepare the minds, and have something in advance.

Stewart
Stewart
Sep 29, 2020 11:01 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

Here is another “crystal ball” event from the BBC, complete with “Track and Trace” app, everything:

CONTAGION! the BBC4 Pandemic

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p059y0p1

(note the interesting code they use for the programme: p_5_y0p_)

It’s from 2018 but apparently it was last shown Saturday 14 March 2020, 5 days before covid-19 was DOWNGRADED from it’s status as a high consequence infectious disease:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

and 9 days before the UK went into national “lockdown”.

It’s not available on iPlayer at the moment, but can be seen on youtube:

The fragrant Dr Fry informs us within the first minute of the programme that the question is when – not if – the next pandemic will strike.

Frankly, watching it is a stomach-churning experience given the events of this year, but I encourage everyone, whether in the UK or not, to try.

Also – stop paying the television license fee – the BBC needs to be wiped from the face of the earth.

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Sep 28, 2020 12:54 PM

Anna Brees interviews some of the speakers and organizers at the Trafalgar Square rally including, most notably, German doctor Heiko Schöning during 7-13 minutes:

John
John
Sep 28, 2020 10:17 AM

Human rights lawyers watch as politicians do a great job of destroying our hard won freedoms and liberties whilst exempting themselves from the rules they impose on us

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Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 29, 2020 6:07 AM
Reply to  John

It’s just like how Governor Newsome’s personal winery stayed open when all the rest in California were ordered shut.

They want you to know you are scum and they are above you.
And they want you to know they want you to know.

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 8:11 AM

Im just reposting a comment I wrote in response to someone else, and which is more appropriate here.

Dr Schoning is inviting people to Berlin on 10/10 in this video. The problem with the protests for people who dont live in Germany or England is that we are unable to attend because of the quarantines and its easier if there is some organization that arranges to take people there. All by yourself to do so from a different country is not really possible.
So it may be useful to found some international coordination, some international peaceful umbrella organization (with national and local sub-organizations) to bring together everyone who wants to participate in bringing back a human life, and also to look after the practical side, making it possible for people to meet their counterparts, both in their own countries and abroad (I think many are totally isolated today),
provide as safe a place as possible for discussions, etc, and other events, and make it possible for people to participate in events, have their lawyers to help out those arrested, and so on and so forth. Because this time, its not a matter of people that already belong to political organizations, unions, or whatever, but of anyone highly concerned, and most dont have the means to even know who the others are, let alone do something, however much they may wish to, and if people felt that security that comes from belonging to an organized movement whose leadership they trusted, then I think its more likely to have the millions on the street.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 28, 2020 10:23 AM
Reply to  hope

Agreed. This is a global thing and people from different countries need to hook up and work together.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Sep 28, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  hope

Cheap flights into Hamburg I seen only an 1hr and a half to berlin then

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 3:01 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Germany is quarantining people from where I live for 14 days. Also testing is compulsory to get into Germany. So all in all, its out of bounds. Its evidently done to be out of bounds.

kevin
kevin
Sep 28, 2020 3:52 PM
Reply to  hope

This is the latest for entry to Germany. Visitors from 39 countries are not required to quarantine or have a Covid test. UK, France and Canada are on the list of 39. The US is not.

https://www.traveloffpath.com/germany-covid-19-entry-requirements-for-travelers

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 28, 2020 4:10 PM
Reply to  kevin

It says Last Updated three weeks ago.

As of now, if I travel from where I live to Germany, I need a CV test, which I won’t take voluntarily and will fight physically if I’m forced to. Or I’ll have to quarantine myself and then take a test or something ridiculous like that. Strangely enough though, since I might need to drive to France in a couple of weeks to pick up my daughter, I’ve found out that I can pass through Germany with nothing. No test, no isolation. Presumably, people from other countries might pass through Germany via Berlin and get stuck in the rally … 😉 …

kevin
kevin
Sep 28, 2020 4:49 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Definitely agree with you on the testing. It should be avoided at all costs. Here is one updated 16 hours ago. It covers all of Europe country by country. Mostly the same list of countries can enter Germany but Spaniards, Bulgarians and Romanians now need a covid test. Of course this could all change before October 10.

https://www.traveloffpath.com/europe-reopening-for-tourism-countries-officially-open

And yes, you never know when you might just accidentally get stuck in the middle of a demonstration on your way to somewhere else.:)

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 7:20 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Indeed! Its becoming so obvious that apart from being there to dehumanize us and confuse us, and thus to impair us psychologically, the other reason for the measures is to prevent us from talking to one other face to face, as that cannot be yet monitored. Direct conversations pose a major risk to totalitarian rule.

hope
hope
Sep 28, 2020 7:16 PM
Reply to  kevin

Unfortunately they are quarantining people from the Paris region. Also a Franco-German lady (who lives in another region of France) and who would like to go to Germany told me she cant because testing is compulsory and like all of us here, she doesnt want to be tested.

kevin
kevin
Sep 28, 2020 9:32 PM
Reply to  hope

That’s very unfortunate. I think for a lot of us, physically gathering with a large number of other people who can see through this totalitarian takeover would be psychologically beneficial and give us some hope. Of course, that is the last thing our governments want.

hope
hope
Sep 29, 2020 7:17 AM
Reply to  kevin

Yes indeed. It would be uplifting.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 28, 2020 5:40 AM

“Mom and dad went to a show
Dropped me off at Grandpa Joe’s
Kicked and screamed, said please, don’t go

Grandma take me home [x7]
Wanna be alone

Had to eat my dinner there
Mashed potatoes and stuff like that
I couldn’t chew my meat too good

Grandma take me home [x7]
Wanna be alone
Said, why don’t you stop your crying
Go outside and ride your bike
That’s what I did, I killed my toe

Grandma take me home [x7]
Wanna be alone

After dinner, I had ice cream
I fell asleep, and watched TV
I woke up in my mother’s arms

Grandma take me home [x14]
Wanna be alone”

)Nirvana(

Story of our lives, except we never dumped our kids on our parents

We took our kids with us, and sometimes invited them to come too.

Isn’t that what most people do?

Cos that is what is happening now, and my wife and I are now The Grandparents.

Can’t complain, I just saw her standing there, and asked her, and brought her home.

Tony

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 28, 2020 3:18 AM

Teach your kids to swim, when they are young, and our Government have stopped even that.

I am a crap swimmer, but even I have saved a child’s life, when his football was blowing away in the wind at Camber Sands, and he thought he could swim, then got out of his depth and went down. I swam as fast as I could grabbed hold of him, and got him back to the beach.

I took him back to his parents who were completely oblivious to the fact that, if I hadn’t been there, their son would have died. He would have drowned..

They slagged him off for losing the football. I was so disgusted with them I didn’t say a word.

My son can swim like a fish. He did not inherit my mild muscular disease.

He goes chasing after them too, when they are on their paddle boards, and the wind suddenly changes, and they are getting swept out to sea.

That is what the dinghy and outboard motor are for.

You need to react quick, and solve the problem before it gets really serious and innocent young kids die.

You rarely get thanked, but that is not the issue. You know what you have done. You have risked your own life to save anothers. Best high you can ever have.

You don’t plan these things. Sometimes they just happen, and you are there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIGl_qth81c

It might be you next time

Can you swim?

Do you think our Government could give a fxxx?

Tony

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 28, 2020 2:26 AM

Despite the current insanity, and it is even tougher for kids, you know all is not lost yet. My wife took our Grandchildren 2 and 4 to the park very close to school yesterday.

So they instantly recognise the children, and play with them. One of their Parents, with a beautiful little girl, whilst 3 little boys are playing together, and they welcome her in to play with them,,,,, said to my wife… maybe Polish…Your little boy, and my liitle girl are “colleagues” at school together.

They only started school about a week ago. They are both 4 years old.

I thought he was a bit shy, but I knew he would have no problem pulling.

Tony

Mr Y
Mr Y
Sep 28, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Why are you writing these things in the comment field on offG?

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 28, 2020 10:24 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

Probably the only place he won’t get censored for straying off topic, and also gets a few upvotes.

sam2
sam2
Sep 28, 2020 1:55 AM
Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 1:50 AM

Helge Schneider (with his famous British drummer
Pete York) sings “Forever at home, forever alone”.

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 1:47 AM

I have heard that in London there are kind
of “stasi controls” if the pubs close on time.

Pilsner Urbräu can be enjoyed in front of the TV this year
(with corona horror propaganda for unsuspecting viewers).

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 28, 2020 1:04 AM

Knock Knock on Heaven’s Door – Yeh Bob Dylan is O.K. I can’t accuse him of anything except being a bit of a miserable bastard most of his life, but he didn’t het much wrong. Could never be bothered to actually go and see him…I was much more in to Neil Young and still am.

So our family had been away for a bit sailing – and getting entangled in Rocks with anchors and Chains, whilst sheltering from an exceedingly fierce storm. Wedidn’t complain, and we didn’t complain and we didn’t communicate, and when the storm really hit the boat, and we lost our dinghy – wel such things happen at sea, and we got it back, and no one died.

Eventually we get home, and there is a Knock Knock on My Front Door..at 8:00am the following morning.

I said he ain’t here. My wife invited the Fraud Squad in from The City of London…4 of them. They weren’t interested in my wife and I – they wanted to speak to our kid..

They insisted he was not under any criminal investigation whastover, and neither were we.

My son runs an ISP. He has been back for most of the last 4 weeks, and he keeps phoning them up, emailing and texting them to make an appointment to take them into the Data Centre where he has some of his kit to investgate this alleged crime of fraud and take away any evidence. He says you can copy the entire bloody server if you want..but there is a lot of data there – and it will take a few days – you may need a bit of a rig, but the data centre will provide the power and I can sort out the cables.

The City of London Fraud Squad Keep Cancelling Their Appointments with exuses like – “Our IT Specialist has gone off Sick with COVID”..and is working from home when he gets better.

So it wasn’t that important then.

So why did you knock on my front door, when I was fucked and wasted and stil in my sailing short and stunk like shit.

Why didn’t you just phone my son up or send him an email, and arrange an appointment with him.

He would have answered his phone, even in the midst of a storm, once he brought us back to safer waters.

Bu nothing, till my wife and I got home. They obviously know all our phone numbers, and can track us, wherever we are.

We have nothing to hide, because we haven’t done anything wrong.

We are alive, and we keep our mobile phones switched on.

Sometimes they are useful and other emergency comms stuff at sea.

“Bob Dylan Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHdioix-BgQ

It’s different at sea

https://rnli.org/

Tony

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer
Sep 28, 2020 3:11 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Ever thought of changing your OffG handle to Tonyofftopic ?

I’ve always considered you far too creative to be a 77th disruptor … but I’m having my doubts.

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Sep 28, 2020 8:21 AM
Reply to  ZigZagWanderer

Tell us it ain’t so Tony. Convince us.

Mucho
Mucho
Sep 28, 2020 4:38 PM
Reply to  ZigZagWanderer

Yep, stinks of it

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 28, 2020 10:25 PM
Reply to  ZigZagWanderer

Called it.

Jason
Jason
Sep 28, 2020 6:41 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

No offence but your posts are incredibly annoying

John
John
Sep 28, 2020 8:23 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Cluttering up a serious discussion.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 28, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Dylan is variable live. I’ve seen him 5 times. Twice he was great (but in different ways), twice he was shite (but in different ways) and once he was totally non-descript. The last mentioned was the last time. I doubt if there’ll be any more.

I would have loved to see Neil. But I can’t imagine it happening now.

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 12:53 AM

But the “real threat”, the real monsters assure us, are not giant tripods, but “invisible pathogens”. A diabolical plan concocted in the minds of power-hungry psychopaths.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 28, 2020 2:22 AM
Reply to  Arne

It’s like “War of the Worlds” in reverse… The people of Earth are killed by the common cold – masquerading as some sort of corona mutation…
Except they aren’t getting sick…

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 2:29 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Exactly so it is. The sick are disguised as “health ministers”.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 12:34 PM
Reply to  Arne

But should we see Boris and other elected politicians as the power-hungry psychopaths, or as their victims, just like the rest of us? If the second, then saving democracy and nation from elite control looks like the priority.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 28, 2020 1:29 PM

I don’t see any of the politicians as prime movers. Decisions are made higher up and are announced via the media, to which the politicians must respond. Hence the “showbiz” aspect of politics whereby e.g. Boris is dragged “kicking and screaming” into the lockdown – as if the lockdown was demanded by “we the people”. Yeah right.

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 12:42 AM

PS: The Maunsel monsters remind me of a British TV series I watched in my youth. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDYLWEP-lPx0242n5e3saaw/playlists

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 12:15 AM

No Oktoberfest this year (& no drunk Aussies).
I wonder what the loss of income costs? Well,
as long as it doesn’t affect Mr. Bezos & and
his criminal cohorts, they don’t give a damn.

Waldorf
Waldorf
Sep 28, 2020 9:03 AM
Reply to  Arne

A year or two ago I read that a Brit or Australian male who became totally drunk at the Oktoberfest was sodomised, so perhaps there is an upside to this.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 2:47 AM
Reply to  Waldorf

IF such Brit or Australian is still standing, there still would be

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 12:10 AM

Organ handle with muzzle.

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 12:08 AM

Once the British were known for their humor.
But unfortunately that is also over. They seem
even more dogged than the Germans today.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 2:51 AM
Reply to  Arne

Hey hey hey, bite your thong… I’m a french Canadian who at this point in my life couldn’t live without British humour… of course some times I have to dig as far back as “I’m sorry I haven’t a clue”… which is ironic…

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 2:54 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

have u heard the last News Quiz? Gave me hope…

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 28, 2020 12:06 AM

This is not my goss, but the policeman who died, is extremely well known. He used to play Rugby with a friend of ours who is quite Senior in The Civil Service.

I stayed in today. I took my wife to the pub, and dropped her off.. and she was talking to him at great length.

She thinks although quite obviously highly intelligent. He wouldn’t still have his job if he wasn’t. He has been completely in love with a Spanish friend of ours for years, and can’t stop talking about her…He is relatively harmless so far as I know, and almost certainly still a virgin.

They all think the Copper is Dead, but the story doesn’t make any sense. Protection Officer for Princess Diana – and I believe that too. You don’t get a job like that, unless you are really good.

2 months off retirement. You certainly do not pick a punk off the streets, arrest him cos he has got a bit of weed. Handcuff him from behind, take him back to the Police Station in Croydon – whilst he is still handcuffed from behind, and then he manages to pull a gun out of his back pocket, shoots the copper in his face and kills him, and then shoots himself…

But believe this story if you like.

I sincerely hope this Policeman is still alive and enjoys his Retirement with his Lovely wife…maybe in New Zealand where he comes from.

My analysis may be completely wrong.

I don’t know. I just hope he is still alive.

I think he is a good man. He just couldn’t stand being a Copper in England any more, and wanted to go back home, with a nice pension

Good luck to him.

Tony

Kitty
Kitty
Sep 28, 2020 12:29 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

The rumour I heard is that the shooter walked into the station and killed the police officer. It doesn’t look too good to admit that someone could just walk in and do this. I also heard that knife and drug crime is rife and the met has lost control. I don’t live in London so don’t know if this is true. There are so many rumours going around who knows what happened. One thing I do know is that it’s not very easy for a cuffed guy to shoot someone. So sad for the policeman. Scarey times.

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 12:01 AM

Our “royals” had the same ancestors.comment image

Day trip of two Brits to the Harz mountains, not without British humor.

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Sep 28, 2020 8:34 AM
Reply to  Arne

Kaiser Wilhelm, yes that Kaiser, was Victoria’s favourite Grandson, and she died in his arms, on the Isle of Wight.

Cousin Edward VII was the unofficial British Foreign Secretary. Thank him for the Entente Cordiale.

And, thanks to his identical, doomed coysin Tsar Nicholas II of Russia, the First World War.

We Are The Baddies. The “Leaders”, anyway.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 12:49 PM
Reply to  ginghiniagenie

‘We are the Baddies’ can not refer to the British nation, not even to the ruling classes who failed to protect the many millions of ordinary Brits from the bloodiest of wars. The political elite may have committed catastrophically stupid mistakes, but that doesn’t signify ‘evil’. Thinking that it does takes you out of politics and into religion and anti-British bigotry.

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Sep 28, 2020 4:03 PM

The 99.99% in every country are not evil. I had thought I expressed that nuance by referring to the “leaders” of this country as the baddies.

The leaders, more specfically a cabal of imperialists inspired by John Ruskin, sponsored by Cecil Rhodes and Nathaniel Rothschild, and led by Alfred Milner, Edward VII, the Earl of Roseberry and Edward Grey, who deliberately engineered the First World War.

It was no “catastrophically stupid mistake”; it was Deliberately Engineered and Utterly Evil.

All of the names mentioned above, with the exception of Cantabrigian Natty Rothschild, were Oxford University Alumni.

Arne
Arne
Sep 27, 2020 11:54 PM

Just for the entertainment of our British relatives. Anyone who only deals with politics will go mad.

Here is a nice video about the inspection of the Maunsell Sea Forts, which is probably forbidden meanwhile for safety reasons. https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/09/27/have-you-ever-heard-of-a-country-that-doesnt-exist/

All this happened not even 100 years ago. Today we are confronted with completely different threats. What has not changed, however, is that a small power elite manages to lead millions of people astray. Greetings from Oldenburg to the Thames (from North Sea to North Sea so to speak).

John
John
Sep 28, 2020 8:25 AM
Reply to  Arne

So you’re filling up the comments with off topic crap

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 12:54 PM
Reply to  Arne

I vehemently oppose small power elites like the unelected EU council, but leftists typically say these autocrats are far superior to elected UK politicians, and that I am a racist gammon or ‘low-information voter’ for thinking otherwise. And so popular resistance to elite power gets divided.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Sep 27, 2020 11:51 PM

we can – follow their instruction.

to stop the infection – the “Structures” that channel it’s “Transmission” – need to be brought down.

Watt
Watt
Sep 29, 2020 2:40 PM
Reply to  Doctortrinate

Do I suspect a cryptic level in the tone of your post? There may be spares, mind!

John
John
Sep 27, 2020 11:44 PM

The juxtaposition between listening to Dr. Heiko Schöning of http://www.acu2020.org speak eloquently about the skulduggery and corruption woven throughout ‘Covid-19’ and the screenshot below could not be more brutal.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=sglQmD3BMSc

The UK Government and the NHS are waging war on the public. Students are being falsely imprisoned and vulnerable people are taking their own lives through sheer desperation and despair. This is fascism. A war crimes trial is required.
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George Mc
George Mc
Sep 27, 2020 11:42 PM

So all you who thought you could raise a desperately needed challenge to the universal media COVID narrative, here’s what you’re up against: 

https://twnews.co.uk/gb-news/quite-frankly-terrifying-how-the-qanon-conspiracy-theory-is-taking-root-in-the-uk&nbsp;

Skepticism of the entire COVID narrative is portrayed here as a singular conspiracy theory – and ….

Well it goes on and on with all the drearily familiar smear tropes and I started to count various words guaranteed to provoke maximum Pavlovian response but soon gave up. The article is awash in terms like Nazi, Hitler, anti-Semitism, Protocols of the Elders of Zion, QAnon, child sex trafficking, paedophiles, etc.

And this:

“What was once dismissed as an underground US conspiracy theory is becoming something more disturbing, more mainstream, more international, more mystical. And the effects of this are now being felt in Britain.This weekend rallies were held in several cities around the country attended by disparate, discrete groups protesting against lockdowns, vaccinations, 5G mobile phone technology and child abuse.”

You are now officially “the enemy within”.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 27, 2020 11:53 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And the threat is even more disturbing than Hitler and the Nazis. It may involve grannies!: 

https://theconversation.com/how-british-grannies-are-spreading-qanon-conspiracy-theory-memes-on-facebook-145820

“How British grannies are spreading QAnon conspiracy theory memes on Facebook”

This is the killer bit:

“The Facebook post those parents had seen began going viral mid-August. It’s one of several similar posts seen in the UK and Australia, and follows a pattern in many posts linked to the QAnon conspiracy theory. These often include a direct appeal to parents, challenging the reader to do their own research to “prove” the veracity of the claim, a call to defend individual rights against big government, elites, or some undefined “they”.”

Readers doing their own research? How crazy can you get?

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 1:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Urging people to research the veracity of claims for themselves, so as to think critically and defend individual rights against the ruling elites and their propaganda, is ancient, standard advice by leftists. Non-leftists like myself also embrace it fully. So why you are disturbed rather than delighted that grannies are learning to think for themselves beats me. My only guess is that you oppose popular resistance not led or controlled by leftists.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 28, 2020 1:45 PM

You seem to have no understanding of irony. I was taking the piss. But perhaps if you could overcome that tedious and soul crushingly boring obsession with “Leftists” you might see this?

John
John
Sep 28, 2020 12:00 AM
Reply to  George Mc

If people label you a ‘conspiracy theorist’ then reply with: ‘the world is being destroyed and people are killing themselves. The virus hasn’t caused that, politicians have. I’m allowed to ask questions’.

Jason
Jason
Sep 28, 2020 7:08 AM
Reply to  John

I reply with, well if i’m a conspiracey theorist you are a complicity victim (or moron, depending on how offensive i feel like being at the time)

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 1:48 PM
Reply to  John

I often tell posters that various beliefs common on OffG are just conspiracy theories, often of great vintage. These include the claims that ‘capitalism is evil’, that only humans with US or Israeli or UK nationality cause oppression, war and violence, and the racist belief that only white humans are racists. I’m very happy to say that OffG allows me (usually) to question these shibboleths, although reaction is understandably usually hostile or even abusive. Whatever; the greater point is that very few sites on the left still allow dissent.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Sep 28, 2020 5:17 PM

I quote, “CAPITALISM HAS FAILED” Christine Lagarde, Mansion House 26th May 2014, addressing the Square Mile elites, with Prince Charles and at Lynn Forester Rothschild ‘s behest, Christine’s good friend.

Any chance you could elaborate on the thoughts of the managing director of the IMF, at that time?

Which of the three lil’ words did you not comprehend fully?
Lol

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 3:38 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I just heard about “zoombombing” for the first
time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoombombing

“We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party.”
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/sep/17/greatinterviews1

https://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 3:49 AM
Reply to  George Mc

“If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.” (Twain) “To learn who rules over you, find out who you aren’t allowed to criticize.” (Voltaire)

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 3:53 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Twain is a treasure trove of wisdom in general.
He had recognized the essence of this “species”.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I’m unsure who you oppose most. Do you think the ‘universal media COVID narrative’ is preferable to the conspiracy theory pushed by QAnon? After all, this second option is helping or even leading popular resistance to the official tyranny you also strongly oppose, while the MSM we all hate sees this resistance as ‘the enemy within’. Or is it that QAnon threatens a politically-correct resistance which no longer inspires nor leads the dumb plebs?

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 28, 2020 1:42 PM

The MSM have defined QAnon as a conspiracy theory. Since I automatically mistrust the MSM, I tried to find some independent source – or perhaps go to some entity called “QAnon” itself. But I had no luck. Anyway – here is how the BBC describe QAnon: 

In October 2017, an anonymous user put a series of posts on the message board 4chan. The user signed off as “Q” and claimed to have a level of US security approval known as “Q clearance”. These messages became known as “Q drops” or “breadcrumbs”, often written in cryptic language peppered with slogans, pledges and pro-Trump themes.

I presume these “breadcrumbs” evolved into the QAnon entity. If it is true that it involves stuff like paedophile rings and Satanic rituals, then I’d say it’s patently obvious disinfo. It sounds like the extreme bits of David Icke which put most off and are in fact irrelevant to most of what he says. And this matter of tainting good stuff with association with the bad is a regular propaganda technique. Whether Icke is doing this deliberately or not is an open question – and actually not important i.e. he may be a paid up disinfo man or unwittingly acting as one. In the end the effect is the same.

So, far from this QAnon theory pushing people to question the official narrative, it is having the opposite effect – which is clearly intentional.

Jean Wilson
Jean Wilson
Sep 27, 2020 11:24 PM

New political party has emerged in the UK. Although they oppose lockdowns, if you read their manifesto, they are the usual conservative, anti-women mob – e.g. “We will actively seek to reduce the number of abortions in the UK by tightening the criteria for abortion.”

They support what they call “the traditional nuclear family”. Tribes were traditional.

They sound just like the tories. https://www.heritageparty.org/manifesto/

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 1:55 PM
Reply to  Jean Wilson

Science says human life begins at conception. Would you agree that anti-abortionists are ‘following the science’? Would you further agree that allowing babies to be dismembered and killed in the womb, even after labour has begun, is progressive and a woman’s right? US Democrats certainly do, and are busily legalising the practice in places like New York State.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 28, 2020 6:14 PM

A Doctor by the Name of Levatino Destroys Abortion in 2 Minutes!! https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/957632534357020672

Arne
Arne
Sep 27, 2020 11:22 PM

The German-American lawyer Dr. Reiner Fuellmich has been casting a top-class team of lawyers together for months. Among the consultants are experts who are preparing a class action of unprecedented, historic proportions. https://clubderklarenworte.de/

Fuellmich himself is a licensed attorney in the USA and in Germany. He wrote his habilitation thesis on the “Anglo-American Trust and German Trust Law”. Fuellmich is a top-class legal expert who, after investigations, is convinced of fraudulent actions by Prof. Christian Drosten and his associates. Fuellmich puts it in a nutshell: “PCR – tests can and must not detect infections. (…) No pandemic without a PCR test”.

John
John
Sep 28, 2020 12:04 AM
Reply to  Arne

What’s happened with Beate Bahner?

The scientists, doctors, academics, virologists who make up http://www.acu2020.org restore my faith in humanity and expose our politicians for the immoral, psychopathic careerists they are.

Arne
Arne
Sep 28, 2020 12:24 AM
Reply to  John

We up here in Friesland are very “English”, and say: “Wait and see and drink tea. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/travel/in-northern-germany-a-robust-tea-culture.html

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 1:58 PM
Reply to  Arne

Careful; many English are thought to be xenophobic, racist, low-information, violent, thuggish gammons. The indigenous, white working class ones, that is.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 28, 2020 10:28 PM

Only by lefties.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 27, 2020 10:40 PM

Another potential travesty caused by the Covid19 scam, affecting the natural world.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8778565/Half-million-sharks-killed-effort-make-Covid-vaccine-wildlife-experts-say.html

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 27, 2020 11:18 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

That is almost Certainly Bollocks.

Number 1 The Daily Mail has been making stuff up for years. They even stage some of their photography with Actors, and photoshop a lot of the rest. I know a Press Photographer, who is Independent. They don’t photoshop his photographs. He might be a bit of a [email protected], but they buy his photographs, and publish them without alteration.

Number 2. I am completely unaware of anyone who works for The Daily Mail, who has swum underwater with real sharks – not these cunts in Parliament – but real sharks. All our family have. Do you want to see our photography? Cos sharks are really shy, and they swim away from us. No shark has ever tried to attack us. They prefer smaller fish.

Tony

Jean Wilson
Jean Wilson
Sep 27, 2020 11:27 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

The very rare shark attacks in Australia get lots of coverage in the mainstream media. No ‘journalist’ ever mentions effects of the over-fishing happening in our waters with modern trawlers able to harvest tons and tons of marine life.

Even so, sharks do not attack humans for food, but for invading a shark’s individual territory. They are far more frightened of us than the reverse.

Jean Wilson
Jean Wilson
Sep 27, 2020 11:30 PM
Reply to  Jean Wilson
I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 2:00 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Yet people do die in shark attacks each year.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Sep 28, 2020 5:26 PM

And Lion trainers get eaten alive.
Just for shows, like Siegfried &…
Your point was?

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 27, 2020 10:30 PM

Podcast by Dr Heiko Schoening’s ACU colleague, Dr Bodo Schiffman. Dr Schiffman provides his analysis of the Covid19 hoax, saying all the things that I presume Dr Schoening would have said in Hyde Park if he’d had the chance. He talks in a very calm and measured way. He filmed it this morning after he had heard about Dr Schoening’s arrest. He first speaks for a minute or two in German but he then delivers the rest of his monologue in English. Powerful viewing.

John
John
Sep 28, 2020 12:08 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

The immensely courageous and eloquent Dr. Heiko Schöning speaks after his release from detention:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=sglQmD3BMSc

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 28, 2020 10:39 AM
Reply to  John

Thanks, John. Excellent. I doubt that Piers Morgan will be having him on GMB – he talks too much sense and might awaken the masses.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 2:06 PM
Reply to  JudyJ
John
John
Sep 28, 2020 2:25 PM

You remain unconcerned about lockdown and obsessed with the Left.

sam2
sam2
Sep 28, 2020 1:54 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

especially the news that two 13 year old girls in GErmany have died fmor having to wear a mask all day

John
John
Sep 28, 2020 10:41 AM
Reply to  sam2

Do you have a link for that please?

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 28, 2020 2:16 PM
Reply to  John

John

@sam2 has lifted that information from Bodo Schiffmann’s video…it is he who states it, as a doctor. I very much doubt he would have said it unless he was sure. I don’t know if it has been reported anywhere in the msm, even in Germany.

sam2
sam2
Sep 28, 2020 9:16 PM
Reply to  John
John
John
Sep 28, 2020 9:41 PM
Reply to  sam2

Thank you. Unfortunately, the evidence doesn’t make much difference. Those pushing this New World Order know that we know.

sam2
sam2
Sep 28, 2020 9:45 PM
Reply to  John

yes but we need to inform the people who don’t know

kevin
kevin
Sep 28, 2020 2:33 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

That was excellent. Thanks for sharing.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 27, 2020 10:20 PM

On the Radio News just now. I am listening To Planet Rock..

I think it said Support Bubbles in England are now Popped.

Just go to work, if you really have to, but don’t use that as an excuse to Socialise…

Go back home, as soon as you are released from your place of work.

Do not talk to anyone else.

Do not go to the pub

Do not speak

Can’t see that working too well, but you never know.

Surely these latest instructions will annoy at least some people, but most will do as they are told, and it is they who will be first in the cattle trucks.

I don’t see how we can save them. Even Bernhard Hoftsman of Moon of Alabama, has had his brain replaced. He tries to slag off Off-Guardian with nonsense he has been fed. In fact, I am not even sure it is the same person. I just think he has had the brainwashing treament, and didn’t realise it. It has happenned to a lot of highly intelligent people, I used to have great respect for.

What can I do?

A good friend of ours said – you have got a lovely wife and family – just ignore them and carry on as normal, the best you can.

She knows.

Tony

Paul
Paul
Sep 27, 2020 9:48 PM

Governments around the world are introducing policies and laws based on the assumption that a positive PCR test for Covid19 equates to an active Covid 19 infection.

The government must prove this and until they do these laws are based on flawed data and are therefore illegal and must be suspended with immediate effect.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 2:46 PM
Reply to  Paul

Hear hear. But our incompetent politicians can’t and won’t hear or accept your perfect logic, as it would mean admitting catastrophic error and humiliation, and huge pressure to resign. Globalists and big pharma know this plight means they can manipulate governors against governed even more effectively. That in turn means progress towards a much greater objective: making people lose all faith in the only non-violent power they have to limit ruling elites: their democratic vote. Nothing scares globalists more than the dirty demos, who can always replace their puppets and stooges with real leaders if electoral circumstances permit. That’s why ruling elites so abhor Trump, who has long boasted that no-one owns him, and who millions hope will drain the swamp. How global elites love it when leftists also attack their greatest enemy Trump, and accuse him of destroying democracy! If leftists attacked real threats to western culture and freedom, like supremacist communism or militant Islamism, they could unite our nations instead of dividing them. The people united….

Norbertrand
Norbertrand
Sep 27, 2020 9:00 PM

Shocking police attack on an older lady.


I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  Norbertrand

Had she been on a very noble, peaceful BLM protest, the plod would never have behaved like this. They’d have knelt to her instead.

austrian peter
austrian peter
Sep 27, 2020 8:18 PM

I am old and can only fight with my pen – but it is mightier than the sword I am told:
https://www.theburningplatform.com/author/austrian-peter/

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 3:01 PM
Reply to  austrian peter

Pens or even keyboards aren’t very mighty when writers with dangerous opinions are de-platformed or cancelled on social media. Ask any pro-Trump critic or blogger, or anyone living under communism and/or Islamism. Chances to discuss and criticise leftist opinion, as thankfully provided by OffG on this forum, are critically-endangered these days. My posts suggesting Trump might be right in some ways and was not actually Hitler or the Great Satan incarnate got me banned from most ‘liberal’ and ‘quality’ news sites like the Graun and LibDependent long, long ago (our public broadcaster, of course, monopolises all pens and opinion. It never even allows the dumb public who must fund it to discuss its news and views).

austrian peter
austrian peter
Sep 28, 2020 4:14 PM

Don’t be discouraged – we will win through, but it will take belief and perseverance over a long time frame. I will continue regardless, knowing that I am right and the end will justify the means. I do believe that I have the forces of the Universe on my side.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 5:31 PM
Reply to  austrian peter

My post about pens being neutralised by cancel culture and de-platforming was removed.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 27, 2020 7:35 PM

I think we can expect a major ratcheting up of the psychological warfare over the Christmas period. There will be a specially modulated gloom factor that will permeate all programmes but in a carefully nuanced way so as not to be too obvious – a kind of good cop/bad cop routine whereby the latter will of course always gain the upper hand and so guide the audience to increasing levels of despair. A deliberately hollow cheer will alternate with the by-now familiar penny dreadfuls that masquerade as news reports. The inevitably increasing protest will attract more vituperative smearing in a relentless attempt to portray the majority as a dangerous minority. All this being blended together into a huge seasonal mindfuck in preparation for the coming squeeze.

theobalt
theobalt
Sep 27, 2020 9:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

sounds plausible

Paul
Paul
Sep 27, 2020 10:56 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You are right but we will completely ignore them.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 27, 2020 10:59 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Not to worry, George – Jools Holland’s Hootenanny will make everything okay!

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 28, 2020 10:32 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Thats one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing a mask on.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 29, 2020 4:20 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

I’ve got a vague memory of seeing him play at Glastonbury. Thankfully, I was fucked off my face at the time.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 27, 2020 7:20 PM

Praise be! It’s the second coming!: 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/27/covid-second-coming-how-did-britain-get-back-in-this-mess

Blah blah blah …nobody could foresee it ….blah …what are we getting wrong … blah ….. death horror death horror … blah ….Covid-19 ….still a mystery enemy….blah

Oh hang on – what’s this?:

“A looming crisis
The NHS is now facing a winter crisis like no other. It has been trying to catch up on thousands of cases of cancer, heart disease and other illnesses left untreated during lockdown. And researchers are now becoming aware that Covid’s long-term impact on patients will add further strains on the health service.”

Ah now there’s the clue!

gorden
gorden
Sep 27, 2020 7:47 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The NHS is now facing a winter crisis like no other.
save are nhs
protect are doctors and nurses

fully distanced full ppe n95 mask compliant
protect your self with a gates foundation covid body bag enclosure
and
die at home hiding under your beds

do your bit for boris team gb and his donmeh jacob frank pirates

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 3:22 PM
Reply to  gorden

Imagine bumbling Boris manipulating Gates, Soros, the WHO, big bankers and big pharma as his useful tools in a profiteering quest to control and exploit the British people. Hard, isn’t it? Which strongly suggests how Boris is the gullible puppet unable to defend us from elite power and ambition. In other words, the elected UK government and UK democracy itself are victims rather than villains.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 3:14 PM
Reply to  George Mc

If the Graun is truly beginning to oppose the insanity of lockdown and nightmare authoritarianism behind it, if it gives up cheerleading the ruling elites and fear-mongering about pandemic, then it may actually start reducing ‘the mess’ it so helped create.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 5:30 PM
Reply to  George Mc

My post concerning the Graun’s possible awakening was deleted.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 27, 2020 7:16 PM

Part of a statement made by Dr Schoening after his release from police custody (22 hours! Really necessary?). As he says, they confiscated his phone, laptop and copy of Sucharit Bhakdi and Karina Reiss’s book “Coronavirus: False Alarm?”.

https://twitter.com/BreesAnna/status/1310264160186445825

Brianborou
Brianborou
Sep 27, 2020 8:45 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

He is correct about his assessment of this plandemic being the bankers. They have for over a century worked towards a New World Order.

For example, they orchestrated financial crashes in the US prior to 1913 to cause an outcry from the public for something must be done which resulted in the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 which is only Reserve in name since it’s owned by private financial institutions many of whom reside outside the US.

Once they controlled the money supply the next steps were controlling the various US government departments including the State Department and eventually the military plus intelligence organs of it. Since they owned the MSM outlets plus Hollywood, academia, education and most of the politicians, convincing people that they were fighting wars for Liberty was not that difficult.

The reality was they were fighting for a completely different agenda. Hegelian dialect was the strategy to construct a new paradigm from a conflict of opposites. Hence why the bankers financed both the Bolshevik Revolution and Nazism.

After WW2 the results were WB, IMF, the UN and the WHO. Their ultimate goal via incremental steps is to create a world which suits their purposes and the vast majority of mankind is not part of their plans.

Covid 19 is one further step along that dark road and I think Dr Schoening knows it.

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Sep 27, 2020 9:16 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Bingo.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 3:30 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Great post on how the power and purpose of democracy has long been corrupted and captured by unelected elites. Governments decreasingly represent their voters in any serious way. American voters woke up to this insidious process and voted anti-politician Trump into office in 2016, as they will again in November. Sadly, blinkered leftists will only cry and protest when this happens. They seem to distrust or even fear democracy and voters as much as the global elites so obviously do.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 5:29 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

My post praising your analysis was deleted, perhaps because I added the claim that if you are right about unelected elites capturing and corrupting democracies, then elected politicians like Boris are also victims or puppets rather than villains. But mods seem to have taken offence. Better luck this time.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Sep 28, 2020 11:06 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

The ideology is based on evil and the tribe is those that believe in evil.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 27, 2020 6:51 PM

Note the theme. First the came for The Disabled, removed their benefits, impoverished them, and told them to go to work. Many promptly dropped dead, and that was before this COVID Bollocks started.

Now they are going for the relativey fit old Ladies, who had the courage to go to Peaceful Demonstrations, to try and Complain about this insanity. If you think this is going to go away any time soon, and things will go back to normal, then I am afraid, you are sadly wrong.

All the indications are that it is going to get considerably worse. Worse than you can ever imagine.

Melbourne, Australia is just a trial run. This is going to be rolled out across the world, with the brainwashed happy clappers cheering it on, and informing on you, cos you have a few of your family and friends around.

“Coming Soon to Your City: Victoria’s Totalitarian Response to Covid is Setting a Precedent for Every Wannabe-Dictator”
https://www.sott.net/article/441928-Coming-Soon-to-Your-City-Victorias-Totalitarian-Response-to-Covid-is-Setting-a-Precedent-for-Every-Wannabe-Dictator

Tony

jamie
jamie
Sep 27, 2020 6:50 PM

I am a supporter of the Trafalgar square protests and appalled by the covid false narrative, but David Icke is a detractor to an organic and hugely important movement. In the view of the vast majority he is known as a conspiracy theorist with a lizard people fixation who only adds to the perception fueled by the media that attendees are all flat earthers. Mr Icke probably receives his script direct from GCHQ.

John Milton
John Milton
Sep 27, 2020 9:11 PM
Reply to  jamie

The removal of Icke would not help one bit to change official narrative believers’ opinion.

Maybe you are paid by GCHQ to discredit Icke!

jamie
jamie
Sep 27, 2020 9:38 PM
Reply to  John Milton

Look at the German protests and the weight they carry due to the integrity/finesse of the speakers in comparison to the punch and judy show in London, Mr Icke certainly enhances the MSM headlines. His appearance and stomach churning speeches may excite the wide eyed but one can’t ignore his value to the hidden puppeteers.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Sep 27, 2020 10:00 PM
Reply to  jamie

If David Icke did not appear, the establishment would fabricate something to distract. For example, when Jeremy Corbyn was riding high on the crest of popularity wave, the fabricated AS was rolled out by all the organs of propaganda which many people still mistakenly believe are impartial. The strategy has and always been divide conquer and if they cannot convince by distortion, omission or downright lies use ridicule. Nothing new under the sun it’s been the strategy of the various elites for thousands of years.

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer
Sep 28, 2020 1:47 AM
Reply to  jamie

 “Mr Icke certainly enhances the MSM headlines.” ……. there were no MSM headlines. 

Elrin
Elrin
Sep 28, 2020 10:19 AM
Reply to  jamie

Funny how they let their man icke speak before moving in to shut it down. Who believes in coincidences?

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 5:20 PM
Reply to  Elrin

Icke is endlessly accused of conspiracy theories. Ironically, saying ‘Their man’ is also conspiracy theory unless you have good evidence to share with us.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Sep 28, 2020 10:36 PM
Reply to  Elrin

No but I believe in coencidences

JoeC
JoeC
Sep 28, 2020 12:22 AM
Reply to  jamie

As much as I like David Icke, I have to agree with you. He’s been branded mercilessly by the MSM in the past. Most certainly all unwarranted in my view but mud sticks and Icke is covered in it from head to toe. Having him at a protest will detract tremendously from its true aim. He himself should know that.

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer
Sep 28, 2020 2:00 AM
Reply to  JoeC

Interesting strategy Joe …. acquiesce to the institutions you wish to oppose.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 28, 2020 2:53 AM
Reply to  ZigZagWanderer

I urge you to read Joe’s whole comment. He has an undeniable point, even if you’re an Icke fan and lizard people actually exist.
For example, the Tibetan monks believe that there are people among us who look human, but are not.
You can’t, however, expect to be taken seriously in modern Britain if you point to certain Members of Parliament, or of the Royal Family, and say they are literally not human.
You might even be right in saying they are something other than human, but as long as people can’t actually see the lizards, they will laugh at the idea.
That’s what Joe means when he says, “mud sticks”.
Despite talking a lot of sense on many topics, Icke has damaged and weakened himself with that one. I wouldn’t hire him to speak, because it would undermine any cause I might hope he would champion with me.
There is also a world of difference between “acquiescing” to abominable institutions and downright inviting ridicule. The truth of what is currently going on is ghastly enough to need maximum focus from all of us.

JoeC
JoeC
Sep 28, 2020 3:54 AM
Reply to  ZigZagWanderer

You couldn’t be further from the truth zigzag. Taking away ammunition from the institutes that I oppose is what I wish. That’s my strategy. Icke is a liability. I don’t like it anymore than you do.

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer
Sep 28, 2020 2:30 AM
Reply to  jamie

None of the shop staff or their clientele who applauded and encouraged us as we marched past their swanky shops in Regent St. and Oxford St. seemed to care who was speaking back at Trafalgar Sq. ….. They were on our side .. and they let us know that was the case without any inhibitions whatsoever.

That was where the points were scored on Saturday .. and Sadiq Khan, Matt Hancock et all know it.

Stewart
Stewart
Sep 28, 2020 12:15 PM
Reply to  jamie

Everyone who downvoted this comment needs to look up the definition of “limited hangout”.

Here’s how it works:

It is undeniably the case that Icke speaks a lot of truth. He identifies many of the people (obviously and not so obviously) ruling over us and spells out a lot of the agenda. But he then goes on to accuse those people of being reptilian shape-shifters from another star system!

Same with covid-19 – lots of real information followed by a batshit insane attempt to link it to 5G.

Lots of media coverage (including high-profile bans from social media to lend a veneer of legitimacy to this spook puppet) ensure that the vast majority of reasonable people dismiss the truths he reveals along with the garbage.

There’s even another layer to this, in that some people say the obviously demented lizard theory is actually a cover for anti-semitism – again, something that we in the west have been programmed to avoid like the plague. Guilt by association is another way to describe what he’s doing to the truth.

He’s an actor, always has been, and he acts for the state. This should be obvious.

Take heart, though – if he’s the best they’ve got…

Elrin
Elrin
Sep 30, 2020 11:05 AM
Reply to  Stewart

No, limited hangout is like this place, flirting with the issues but never really getting to the crux of it. Icke is more of a shit in the bowl of punch type. I also have a strong suspicion that he is using nlp although I havent detected any for sure. Definitely controlled opposition though. I’m surprised and disappointed in the support he gets on this site. People are so naive.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 5:24 PM
Reply to  jamie

Maybe you should judge the truth and value of his words on this issue rather than trust or be distracted by old judgements from other people.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 27, 2020 6:13 PM

Is this British Police Officer going to be arrested, and charged with the most outrageous form of Grievous Bodily Harm to a Lady old enough to be his Grandmother, or will The Police just pretend it didn’t happen, and try to scrub all evidence of it from The Internet.

Basically he hit her as hard as he could in the stomach, and then threw her to the ground yesterday in Trafalagar Square at was till then a Peacful Demonstration witnessed by thousands of people.

https://twitter.com/ScottyKBF/status/1309930201598623745

Tony

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 27, 2020 6:26 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

That is just the way THE ROYAL MAFIA CRIME FAMILY follows the 4th/5th Commandment and enforces the CORPORATE FASCIST SCAMDEMIC.

“It takes a special sort to be a member of the British Gestapo.”

https://twitter.com/AVDCAreScum/status/1143627206868054016

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 4:51 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Did the corporate fascists or the gangster royals cleverly tell police to kneel to peaceful BLM protestors but to beat up violent anti-lockdown protesters?

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 29, 2020 5:39 PM

“When BLM and Antifa attack” A CIA-George Soros Langley-Land Production. Nominated for 9 Golden Jackboots by the Corporate Fascist Film Academy, as well as being one of this years nominees for the Leni Riefenstahl Award from the Joseph Goebbels Cinematic Institute.

The answer to that question should be obvious.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 27, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

These events are deliberate in order to provoke an uprising, which will then necessitate the implementation of Martial Law. They are already softening the people up with these 10 pm curfews. Stasi Commie Britain is here folks.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 29, 2020 5:42 PM

Corporate Fascist Gestapo Britain is here. The CORPORATE FASCIST OLIGARCH MOBSTER PSYCHOPATHS need to go ASAP!

messenger charles
messenger charles
Sep 30, 2020 10:35 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Bolshevik Marxist, not Fascist. COMMUNIST China is the model, not General Pinochet or Franco or Mussolini. Get an education before you comment again.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 27, 2020 5:41 PM

A lot of people, are going to be feeling a bit down at the moment. I stumbled across this, and it is not the kind of thing, I would usually like, but I thought wtf, I will give it a go, and it is so good, I might watch it again. I feel better now.

“The Nylons – Up on the Roof (Official Music Video)”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQN87SEXKds

Tony

Kitty
Kitty
Sep 27, 2020 5:30 PM

Where is Jeremy Corbyn? The silence is deafning. He has never been afraid to take on the establishment, and has spent his entire career fighting for peace and justice. So what’s happened. This is the greatest battle we are facing for a century. I presume that he still has the ear of thousands of Labour supporters and his support to the resistance could turn the tide.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 27, 2020 5:55 PM
Reply to  Kitty

To those who were hoping for some thing different, Jeremy Corbyn- like Bernie Sanders, is not THE MESSIAH. In short both are corrupt hacks. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

““I am not a Labor Leader; I do not want you to follow me or anyone else; if you are looking for a Moses to lead you out of this capitalist wilderness, you will stay right where you are. I would not lead you into the promised land if I could, because if I led you in, some one else would lead you out. You must use your heads as well as your hands, and get yourself out of your present condition; as it is now the capitalists use your heads and your hands.”
~ Eugene Victor Debs

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 28, 2020 4:37 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

If I say capitalism is actually what allows us to escape the wilderness, and is not actually Satanic at all, will my post be left up? I know I’m breaking a taboo here. Just testing…

Disappointed.
Disappointed.
Sep 27, 2020 6:09 PM
Reply to  Kitty

I think their lives have been threatened.

Watt
Watt
Sep 27, 2020 10:11 PM
Reply to  Disappointed.

His brother’s been got at. Shut yer mouth or yer brother gets it…again.

kevin king
kevin king
Sep 27, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  Kitty

ergh….haven’t you read Labour’s policy on Climate Change? They are part of the global cabal.

Someone
Someone
Sep 27, 2020 6:56 PM
Reply to  kevin king

Yes, or on “transgender” issues…

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