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WATCH: BBC Prepares Hit Piece on Independent Journalists

Vanessa Beeley in conversation with James Corbett

Vanessa Beeley joins James Corbett to discuss the BBC’s forthcoming hit piece on journalists like herself who dare call out the White Helmets as a foreign-founded, foreign-funded, terrorist-embedded propaganda construct. They discuss Beeley’s reporting on Syria that clearly gives the lie to the White Helmets’ humanitarian cover and the clear signs that the BBC is set to launch a new smear campaign against independent journalists.

For links to sources, show notes and an audio-only version of the interview, click here. You can also follow Vanessa Beeley on twitter or read more of her work at MintPress News

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Andrew
Andrew
Mar 9, 2021 10:39 PM

This was another great discussion with Vanessa Beeley, but for me it was very severely undermined the moment she said “covid hoax”. Whether covid is the real problem it’s made out to be or not, the prevailing consensus is that it is very real. One would have thought that Vanessa was clued up enough to know that – in which case why is she putting her foot in her mouth in that way? Judging by many of the comments here, I would say she is quite likely being led astray by the false cynics who are attracted to her own healthy scepticism, but get a kick out of simply rejecting everything they are told.

Lee
Lee
Feb 27, 2021 8:10 PM

Wow have wasted more than three decades trying to update my education in mental health conditions by using published research and textbooks. Could have saved myself the bother by discovering this website sooner, clear examples of delusional thinking, group psychosis and lots of suspected narcissistic personality disorders. But never mind because the use of long words and clever sounding phrases will mak it all sound like intelligent intellectual discourse rather than mad ramblings.

Nick
Nick
Nov 13, 2020 9:17 AM

The BBC has dropped all pretence of independence.
Today its website is highlighting the departure of Dominic Cummings from No.10. Now, I don’t like the Tories any more than your average socialist does, but to be fair, Cummings did announce in January 2020 that he planned to leave his job as Boris’ adviser by the end of the year; so this isn’t news. Yet there’s a long piece by Laura Kuenssberg full of stuff like “[he] jumped because he’d be pushed soon”. Nonsensical comments on an event that isn’t even news.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Oct 24, 2020 12:19 PM

Great interview. Makes a nice change from the ongoing covid charade, but the propaganda outreach is similar.

paul
paul
Oct 23, 2020 4:06 AM

When you’re getting a lot of flak, you know you’re over the target.
We are fortunate in having a number of exceptional women like Vanessa, Eva Bartlett, Lizzie Phelan, Abby Martin, to cut through the smokescreen of lies and get the truth out.

paul
paul
Oct 23, 2020 4:39 AM
Reply to  paul

£5 billion a year of taxpayer’s money goes to the loathsome, utterly vile BBC every year.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 23, 2020 10:24 AM
Reply to  paul

Abby Martin?

ok 🤣

Gypsyjiver
Gypsyjiver
Oct 23, 2020 4:21 PM

What is the issue with Abby Martin? I thought Empire Files does an excellent job.

Gypsyjiver
Gypsyjiver
Oct 23, 2020 4:23 PM

What is the issue with Abby? I thought she did a great job with Empire Files.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Oct 24, 2020 11:32 AM
Reply to  Gypsyjiver

Admin1 has an opinion.

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 22, 2020 10:06 PM

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https://imoparty.com/#About

ame
ame
Oct 23, 2020 6:56 PM
Reply to  May Hem

it’s been 76 years in the making, a Halloween rare Full Moon that is visible nearly across the entire globe.

any from of voting = evoking is there worse magic may hem

of course they wil set up a disgruntled party that pretends to tick the boxes it a hack to hack you energetically

who and what set up rigged elections on a full moon Halloween

wake up

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 24, 2020 1:42 AM
Reply to  ame

You may be right, ame, but the full moon here in our timezone is on 1st november after the election.

I know some of the candidates in this new party and I believe the group is genuine but who knows, I may be wrong.

I notice that the full moon on 31st is in a tight conjunction with planet uranus, so there are bound to be disruptions and surprises. Let’s hope they’re good ones.

richard
richard
Oct 22, 2020 5:04 PM

In an effort to get the conversation back on topic I think I’ll repost something I said further down, which I think needs to be said: (slightly amended)
The beeb was the best broadcaster in the world full stop.
It can be again given a pro nationalist government.
It should be remembered that Britain has been under foreign rule for nigh on fifty years and every institution has been weaponised against us.

dr death
dr death
Oct 22, 2020 5:49 PM
Reply to  richard

unfortunately the bbc has always been tavistock.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  richard

When did the best era end? I’d love to know…

John Pretty
John Pretty
Oct 24, 2020 11:34 AM
Reply to  richard

It should be remembered that Britain has been under foreign rule for nigh on fifty years.

It has? Er, I think I may need reminding … who?

Howard
Howard
Oct 22, 2020 4:15 PM

Is there an ongoing deliberate attempt by trolls to crowd out the critical, thoughtful, astute comments one normally associates with Off-Guardian? At what point should comments which bear no relevance whatsoever to the article itself be censored? Or is that the point: to force Off-Guardian into promoting censorship?

At any rate, I do not need to be bombarded with silly nonsense parading as legitimate commentary on an alleged male-female dichotomy. To say it’s puerile is to denigrate youth.

Peter
Peter
Oct 23, 2020 6:41 AM
Reply to  Howard

You have been successful in your challenge. Unfortunately Offguardian sees fit to make itself no better than any other publication. At least The Guardian notify that it’s been deleted rather than going full Winston Smith. There was no reasonable justification for them to be deleted. Very shoddy and damaging to the site’s integrity.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Oct 23, 2020 11:36 AM
Reply to  Howard

Censorship is common here. The mere mention of the word censor nearly always lands my comment in a holding box.
My comment replies talking if such subtle censorship still never gets published.

Even as the bare faced lie that it proves is repeated – ‘We do not censor’ ! Nothing to see here, move along..’

Any new discerning open minded reader here will soon figure that out. Any other who is attracted here like a moth to a flame of whatever personal prejudice they hold will never acknowledge they are being duped.

They will burn and fall as the flame holders smile at their success!

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 23, 2020 1:18 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

Why wasn’t your comment censored then?

Find somewhere else to whine!

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Oct 24, 2020 11:46 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

It still is – see the link below to Howard. Tell me if you can see it?

Pointing out the obvious fact is not whining.

Being a wilful blind god king worshipper like you cheering the emperor’s new cloths, like you seem to do, is more like whining.

Don’t bother replying without having checked my link first.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 24, 2020 1:33 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

Have you tried posting the type of libellous abuse you offer here on any other website? Have you tried, for example, telling Craig Murray (whom you profess to admire) that he is controlled opposition or government disinfo? Have you tried throwing the insults at him you routinely throw at us? Do you think he’d tolerate it? Or do you think you’d be banned as a disruptive troll? The fact we occasionally remove your worst offenses in no way mitigates the fact you are allowed to say things here you would never get away with anywhere else – and that’s why you come here – to vent. Let’s be clear Dungroanin – you are NOT a fearless and rugged outlaw singlehandedly challenging our mainstream complacency with wit and aplomb, like Peter Pan facing off with Captain Hook; you’re an angry disenfranchised guy who has too much time on his hands, drinks… Read more »

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Oct 24, 2020 3:21 PM

“ The fact we occasionally remove your worst offenses ” Well well finally admitting that you DO censor! Changed the tune from ‘never’ eh? I have had posts on CM’s site modded because of supposed links to AS sites which I did not realise were such. The only other site that has taken the approach that you have is the original Groaniad stassi mods, which too, started to arbitrarily ban my comments, mostly for unidentified broken comment rules! OG used to run that series but hardly seen it this year- why not? The other reason was criticising their authors bonafides especially in their Syria Campaign PR stream – Chulov and WH ‘journalists’ – and once notably when Toynbee lost the plot and made the mistake of engaging btl. Your allegation that I have been libellous is hollow when no one else can read it to make up whether it stands… Read more »

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 24, 2020 3:40 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

Well well finally admitting that you DO censor! We remove racism, empty ad hom and spam, Dung, just as we always have. A certain amount of your output falls into those categories. I have had posts on CM’s site modded because of supposed links to AS sites which I did not realise were such. Evasion. Do you believe you could accuse Craig of being a government agent and routinely devalue his work as you do ours and NOT be censored? Can you name one site but ours that would let you do that?You know the answer. Have the grace to admit it. Your allegation that I have been libellous is hollow when no one else can read it to make up whether it stands upto YOUR say so. A good many of your libellous and insulting claims are still published here – only a very small minority have been removed,… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 25, 2020 1:43 PM

Admin, you must have the patience of a saint to remain so calm and courteous in the face of the annoying people who spam this site with their tedious, attention-seeking, repetitive nonsense.

Your hard work is much appreciated. :o)

John Pretty
John Pretty
Oct 24, 2020 12:17 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

dung is the house troll. The editors keep it as a pet.

Howard
Howard
Oct 23, 2020 3:05 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

I don’t consider being put in a holding pattern to be censorship. It’s obvious to me in just the short time I’ve been reading Off-Guarding articles and comments that within the last couple weeks, the site is being flooded with totally irrelevant and very long comments.

I’m not speaking of the kind of comment where the poster acknowledges up front that it may be “off topic.”

Another thing I’ve noticed is that replying to a comment from someone (like yourself) who is often “censored” will almost always put me in a holding cell. But I’ve never had a comment actually censored.

Red Corvair
Red Corvair
Oct 22, 2020 2:47 PM

The new anti-Muslim must in France today is the decapitation of professor Samuel Paty “for showing caricatures of the prophet to his pupils”. A really sad crime of course.
So, very consequently, President Macron declares that France will never stop making caricatures. How dare they threaten a great French tradition, anti-Islam caricaturing?!

But look and behold, now it transpires that the perpetrator of the crime is a Russian-speaking Chechen refugee who has been discovered to have links with Syrian Islamists linked to Hayat Tahrir al-Cham in Idlib !!
Just like with the Charlie Hebdo killings, which were the result of French intelligence service DGSE encouraging Islamism in France and Islamist fighters to go and fight in Syria, Africa etc.

When the chickens come home to roost…

LIFE IS NOT ALLOWED
LIFE IS NOT ALLOWED
Oct 23, 2020 10:43 PM
Reply to  Red Corvair

off-topic noise. You will find much more receptive audience for your concerns about immigrants elsewhere.

Red Corvair
Red Corvair
Oct 24, 2020 4:24 PM

Not so “off-topic” when you consider Vanessa Beeley’s work in Syria, … if only you’re aware of it of course (and consider her journalism is allowed).

More “off-topic” “noise” just for you only: Leaked docs expose massive Syria propaganda operation waged by Western govt contractors and media
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/09/23/syria-leaks-uk-contractors-opposition-media/

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Oct 22, 2020 11:10 AM

When Boris Johnson was the Foreign Secretary, he publicly boasted that the Foreign Office had provided the White Helmets with £68 million from the non-humanitarian fund.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 22, 2020 1:21 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Boris Johnson seems so easily duped. Look how he bows to Ferguson, Whitty and Vallance, and how they in turn follow or work for Gates and Big pharma. Then there is Carrie’s influence. She is reportedly a big fan of Greater Funberg, whose fear and/or political activism now dictate the UK’s insane environmental policy. Boris is clearly not a leader, and as a follower will never be able to say or understand ‘British people first’. A puppet of the technocrats, he has forgotten that democracy means respecting and representing his own people’s interests.

dr death
dr death
Oct 22, 2020 5:52 PM

i suggest you are duped by boorish johnson and his collection of motley misfits masquerading as the british cabinet.
‘cometh the time, cometh the man’.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Oct 24, 2020 11:35 AM

Boris Johnson seems so easily duped.

He’s a f*cking prick.

Terry
Terry
Oct 22, 2020 10:09 AM

There is nothing wrong with state funded media, like there is nothing wrong with state funded healthcare or defence. But only as long a your state is a true democracy and not run by the military industrial complex, when it is, then state media is as bad as private media in selling lies.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 12:36 PM
Reply to  Terry

Why do think the banker rulers make native indigeous men into new white niggers? Because they are the only power that could develop a critical mass that would lynch them and take over…Your obession with homosexality is bizzare and unhealthy many wirking class men thst hare the rulers oartake in occasional “cock fun” cause it’s cheap and easy and most women in anglo countries look like men anyway so whats the difference…? Don’t equate these men with the likes of Cressida Dicks. “Cock fun” was rampant amongst the poor souls in the trench you write about.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 8:09 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

That was an answer to another post…I don’t know how it got here.

Chris Of The Family Slate
Chris Of The Family Slate
Oct 22, 2020 11:03 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

What the hell are you ranting about.
Cressida Dick fulfills a post due to her, how can we say er! Life choices.
She is a smarmy shyster.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 23, 2020 9:31 AM

It was an answer to a post that was deleted that’s why it seems odd…

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 23, 2020 10:26 AM
Reply to  Dabuyo

It IS an answer to a post – nothing has been deleted – what are you talking about?

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 22, 2020 1:27 PM
Reply to  Terry

The BBC is run on woke values by virtue-signalling professional class elitists who hate the indigenous British working class and British identity. No speculation about the military industrial complex needed, unless you have some very good evidence to back up your belief.

LIFE IS NOT ALLOWED
LIFE IS NOT ALLOWED
Oct 23, 2020 10:50 PM

what do you think “British identity” actually is? looking up to the royals? getting drunk every weekend in some gloomy pub? paying council tax? garden gnomes, union jacks, “I’m alright, jack”? pretending to be sophisticated and succesful? Politely queueing?

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 22, 2020 2:23 PM
Reply to  Terry

And in principle, the BBC was set up in such a way that there were some checks and balances, .e.g. having a board of governors to provide oversight. Inevitably however, this provided opportunities for cronyism with “the usual suspects” ending up in charge.

The BBC needs democratic reform, not destruction.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 22, 2020 2:37 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Nothing can be reformed – Protestantism being a good example. The old MUST be swept away and something completely new put in its place.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 22, 2020 4:52 PM

So…what would you put in its place? Or just “leave it to the market”? And end up with the American system…?

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 23, 2020 11:06 AM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

The internet has already replaced the BBC and TV in general. The BBC just hasn’t done the honourable thing (because there are no honourable people in it) and fallen on its sword.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 2:54 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

That died in March 1987 When, apparently Marmaduke Hussy (what a stupid name, a Rothschild and Bernard Ingham said can we just sack him? About Alan Milne cos he had the gual to critizes the Maggie regime

dr death
dr death
Oct 22, 2020 6:03 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

yes the bbc is run by a particular kind of person, for the particular kind of people in the city of london that run the government. usually administered by particular kind of people masquerading as ministers in parliament.
usually at yours and mines expense, hence the shit stew we find ourselves in.

Maggie
Maggie
Nov 12, 2020 2:43 PM
Reply to  dr death

Give them a name Dr D… the are MI5/6 agents?

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 3:09 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Wrong..the BBC needs total destruction and obliteration. Why should Fiona Bruce be subjected to the rigours market forces market forces like miners were? Why should RTS make up girls be burn alived and burried in toones if concrete by a NATo cruise missiles “for parroting regime propaganda” whilst these scum live like royalty. The BBC need a taste of uts own medicine.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 3:09 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

Why shouldn’t Fiona Bruce*

richard
richard
Oct 22, 2020 4:26 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

The beeb was the best broadcaster in the world full stop.
It can be again given a pro english / nationalist government.
It should be remembered that Britain has been under foreign rule for nigh on fifty years and every institution has been weaponised against us.
Including internet trolls…

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 4:43 PM
Reply to  richard

There’s nothing and nobody left of that BBC you refer to..

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 23, 2020 11:10 AM
Reply to  richard

Actually it’s 371 years, not 50 years.

John the First
John the First
Oct 22, 2020 5:47 PM
Reply to  Terry

State funded media is by definition wrong. Media presents an outlook on the world which should not be collectively paid for for one, and it should not be in the hands of the state. In the case of the states we are talking about (modern states), these type of states seek to gain ever more control over the people. But even in the case of a type of state which does not seek to gain control, like church and state should be separated, media and state should be separated. The task of the state should be limited to the realm of basic necessities, basic education, and protection of citizens by means of a system of law comprising of the most limited amount of laws possible, and a system of defense. The reason why media is radically different from defense and healthcare is because the latter are basic collective issues, while… Read more »

dr death
dr death
Oct 22, 2020 6:10 PM
Reply to  John the First

you are correct sir, state media and commercial media will both be captured by the kleptocracy because eventually they come to own both. the organs of the state and the means of supply.

John the First
John the First
Oct 22, 2020 6:50 PM
Reply to  dr death

What you describe is true, but potential abuse is not the only reason why media and state should be separated, abuse can also happen on other levels of organizations, where the state represents merely the greatest possible form and extent of potential abuse. It is that fundamentally everything which pertains to thought, emotion and exploration of reality (factual) should remain the exclusive initiative of the citizens themselves, either through self initiated individual enterprise or self initiated organized enterprise. The collective contract which gives rise to a state should be limited to what makes the former mentioned possible in the form of basic necessities (among which, basic security). Such a situation allows for the greatest possible diversity, so that possible abuse by minor forms of organizations can be counteracted by initiative of groups of citizens, in the negative sense. But primarily, it allows in the positive sense for the greatest amount… Read more »

John Pretty
John Pretty
Oct 24, 2020 11:36 AM
Reply to  Terry

only as long a your state is a true democracy

What is “a true democracy” Terry? Does such a beast exist?

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 9:39 AM

Never forget the fake BBC breakfast “jubilant crowds in Triopoli Libya” that was actaully a pro India hindu rallyfrom Shrinigar Jammu and Kashmir India….So bad that you could see Hindi Script, The Indian flag, Nehru gats and jackets even a winan in a Sari and hindu moustaches… Even Radio Tirana would have baulked at that level of lies.

Terry
Terry
Oct 22, 2020 10:15 AM
Reply to  Dabuyo

”Syrian to BBC Reporter- -You Are Not Telling the Truth About Syria-”
MI5 claiming to be a BBC journalist accused of being a liar in Syrias. You liar’ very funny.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 12:37 PM
Reply to  Terry

Should have spat in the cnuts face.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 9:32 AM

No one in the British working class beleives word the BBC says and record numbers are ditching the licence fee…. It’s a national joke..constantly pushing climate change and diversity in everthing. Whilst paying the repulsive likes of Vanessa Feltz, Claudia Winkelman and Fiona Bruce salaries higher than Scandinavuan royalty. It’s so laughable that they ate actually so deluded that they think its still 1979 and they set the agenda.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 22, 2020 2:43 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

I don’t think they care.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 22, 2020 2:48 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

BBC elitists hate indigenous Britain and Britishness, and have done for decades. Hating your own nation is a leftist custom, unfortunately.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 23, 2020 11:22 AM

Only in the revolutionary stages, once in power their masters put them up against the wall and shoot them. Communists have no use for the rebellious spirit.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2020 5:46 AM

I no longer regard those who work at the BBC, The Guardian, ABC, CNN, The Age, et al as ‘journalists’. They are nothing more than morally bankrupt presstitutes who serve imperialism and protect the interests of the 0.01%. These very same creatures who have been pushing the scamdemic narrative on us for most of this year. There needs to be a day of reckoning for these criminals. So much innocent blood is on their hands, from their full support for the devastation and carnage in Iraq and Syria and Yemen and Libya and their whitewashing of Israeli war crimes and of the murderous occupation of Palestine. In fact how often do you even hear any Palestinian voices on MSM? Anyone with a few brain cells can see that the White Helmets were never a real civil defence organisation, but merely a propaganda construct of the West; closely linked with such… Read more »

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

“There needs to be a day of reckoning for these criminals.” I absolutely agree. I think, as well, that, strategically, tv network chiefs would be a very profitable target. You decent lawyers out there: If you want to make a dent in the darkness that gets shoved down people’s throats in relation to covid 19, consider going after the uncaring monsters being paid to shove vile – harmful – propaganda down the throats of the people.

Of course, I wish the people – the normies – cared enough to take a pass on tv propaganda, but it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen any time soon.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2020 1:40 PM
Reply to  Arby

Yep… I was having a daydream earlier today, that all the main media organisations CEO’s, News Editors, and the Presstitutes pushing this scam the most end up facing a Nuremburg style trial for crimes against humanity. As I said, it was a daydream. So many lives devastated, suicides and domestic violence rates soaring, children self harming, and I don’t how accurate this is as I just saw it a few minutes ago, saw a news story that up to 8 million Americans will end up homeless coz they won’t be able to pay their rent. My housing organisation has started dropping hints they won’t be able to extend my rent freeze for much longer, tho am meant to start my vendor job again on Nov 2nd. How are things going in Ontario? Are you still working? You probably already saw it, but there’s a leaked email from a Liberal Party… Read more »

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 2:18 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I don’t know about that email. It feels funny. Otherwise, Dan Dicks did a show looking at the apparent setting up of concentration camps in Canada. It was pretty good. (Dan should focus less on himself in his videos reporting on the censorship that he’s experiencing. I want to know about it, but it doesn’t reflect on Dan well that he makes it all about him.) Ontario is crazy. I expect it to get crazier, like everywhere else. The cattle are very much responsible for this. Their willingness to be pissed on and obey orders, including orders to parents to harm their children, has emboldened the monsters pushing this covid hoax. There’s two things to keep in mind, or maybe three: 1. politicians are gangster 2. politicians and judges, who sometimes check the politicians (Michigan), are all appointed gatekeepers and 3. gangster politicians take their marching orders not from the… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2020 2:27 PM
Reply to  Arby

Agree, especially regards the mass, unquestioning compliance. The psychopaths can smell blood and the more compliance the harder they’ll push, and also agree about the politicians, and who they really answer too.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 23, 2020 1:37 AM

Thanks for the clip Messenger👍

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 23, 2020 11:18 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

You’re welcome.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 22, 2020 2:55 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Good analysis minus the delusional ‘who serve imperialism’ bit. The woke BBC are ashamed of the British identity and have long been doing everything they can to make Brits ashamed of their imperial history. Multiculturalism is great and enlightened, but British monoculturalism is neanderthal or racist. A very recent example of this bigotry and bias is their disgraceful attempt to prevent patriotic Britons enjoying Land of Hope and Glory at the Last Night of the Proms. The only empire the BBC serves today (aside from its EU friends and funders) is that of the glorious progressive revolution ie wokism.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 23, 2020 1:01 AM

Excuse my language Nick, but fuck ‘wokism’ and all the other ‘virtue signalling’ fake bullshit. I’ve had an absolute guts full of it.
I think we agree that all the Identity Politics – PC stuff is actually censorship in disguise and fascistic in nature.
What ever happened to treat people how you would like people to treat you, regardless of age, race, skin colour, religion, able bodied or disabled or whatever, coz, end of the day, we’re all human beings.
Sorry for my rose tinted nostalgia trip there, but that’s how it was when I was growing up.
How are things going in your part of Brazil? Are you back working yet? Are there many covid sceptics where you are, or is everyone on board with the narrative?

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 22, 2020 5:27 AM

James Corbett joked about Vanessa being ‘an award winning journalist’ (not!). But to be attacked by B.Liar’s regime-changed BBC *is* an award.

John the First
John the First
Oct 22, 2020 5:58 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Rampant idiocy and all around confusion in a pigsty allows for no heroes.

John the First
John the First
Oct 22, 2020 6:12 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

In a democracy, the rule of mediocrity, or the rule of the mobs, no one can individually rise above it, mediocrity allows for no heroes. The hero would, while already wading up to his neck in the collective mud, become buried under a pile of mud by the last mud throwers of democracy. It would not even be tragic, but merely ridiculous.
The only heroism which can find place, which would not be immediately buried by the mobs, is that which the mobs or some individual member of them knows nothing of. Any public knowledge of such a thing would immediately, by the nature of the public, lead to its desecration or ridicule.

Your attempt to assign praise worthiness is as such merely venerable in terms of intent.

livingsb
livingsb
Oct 22, 2020 4:13 AM

BBC, NBC, CBS, FOX, NYT, CNN, etc… any person allowed to post a story on these corporate platforms are shoeshine boys for the elite class – nothing more.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 22, 2020 3:06 AM

Everyone should now refer to the BBC as the Bumc**ms and Bullsh***ers Corporation.

The corporation that covered up Savile for a generation is going to have a hard job in court claiming the description is inaccurate.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Oct 22, 2020 2:46 AM

News outlets like the BBC are no longer hiding they’re controlled by the security state and feel confident enough to brazenly attack independent journalists revealing documented data opposing the official narrative whether it be regime change wars or COVID-19.

Vanessa Beeley is just one of many who are being harassed for revealing the truth about insidious activities in the Middle East. “José Bustani, the former head of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, speaks out in support of two veteran OPCW inspectors who challenged a US-backed cover-up of their investigation in Syria.

Bustani also reacts to the recent US-UK-France-led effort to prevent his testimony at the UN Security Council about the OPCW Syria cover-up scandal. And Bustani reveals new details of how he was targeted in the lead-up to the Iraq war, when the Bush administration engineered his ouster for impeding its plans to invade.”
 https://thegrayzone.com/2020/10/18/ex-opcw-chief-defends-syria-whistleblowers-and-reveals-he-was-spied-on-before-iraq-war/

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 22, 2020 3:16 PM

You say the BBC are ‘no longer hiding that they’re controlled by the security state’. Now that’s a huge claim, but I’ve seen zero headlines, public accusations and confessions, or any other evidence that BBC bosses take their orders from Boris or MI5/6. Perhaps you have some you could share. I fully agree that the BBC has very dirty hands concerning Syria, and believe that the White Helmets are Islamist frauds who faked chemical attacks etc to manipulate sentimental western public opinion and incite Trump into another disastrous military intervention against Assad (Trump avoided the ruse, Obama swallowed or welcomed it). However, I would argue that the politicised BBC refused to investigate and expose this scam without needing any control or even knowledge on the part of the useless May administration. But friendly urgings to BBC bosses from certain ‘deep state’ bureacrats who place themselves far above ‘silly’ democratic concerns… Read more »

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Oct 22, 2020 8:47 PM

BBC is no different than US mockingbird CIA controlled MSM.

Jason
Jason
Oct 23, 2020 6:07 PM

I’m extremely grateful to have had a very astute and switched on teacher at school. 23 years ago we debated all the UK mainstream media in an A levels Business Studies class and concluded then that the BBC must be avoided along with ITV, SKY etc if anyone wants to stay genuinely informed. We’ve witnessed the consistent year by year dumbing down more and more since then, to the extent that if i feel brave enough to now go on BBC website i just see a few pictures and some completely random totally useless articles about nothing important. I switched off the TV many years ago, but as i work in travel (not for much longer) and travel a lot, when I’m staying in Hotels is the only time i turn on the TV just for the sake of it and sometimes put on BBC World if i couldn’t find… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 25, 2020 1:55 PM
Reply to  Jason

That teacher of yours sounds very cool. If only there were more like that; opening people’s eyes to what the world’s really like. I’m not surprised that you’re so grateful to have had that experience. :o)

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Oct 22, 2020 2:27 AM

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Wiki Lies Biden-Ukraine/
Dems Dox MAGA Homes/
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Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Oct 22, 2020 2:25 AM

MinTruth will see her off…..

Maxwell
Maxwell
Oct 22, 2020 1:27 AM

Here’s some censorship for ya’:

According to the Danish newspaper Berlingske three scientific journals have refused to publish the results of the first major scientific investigation the effect of use of masks during the Covid-19 pandemic. Apparently because the results might not show what is politically correct.

https://twitter.com/MaMoMVPY/status/1319002978146263040

The journals are: The Lancet, JAMA and New England Journal of Medicine.

NoNickYet
NoNickYet
Oct 22, 2020 3:16 AM
Reply to  Maxwell
Paul Nicholls
Paul Nicholls
Oct 22, 2020 7:47 AM
Reply to  Maxwell

Twitter link not working (gee I wonder why) . Anyone with the direct link to the newspaper?

Paul Nicholls
Paul Nicholls
Oct 22, 2020 7:48 AM
Reply to  Paul Nicholls

That is the recent article mentioned above not the July article.

Paul Nicholls
Paul Nicholls
Oct 22, 2020 2:43 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Translation (google translate- Danish/ English), on reddit, of the article mentioned in twitter link above. Twitter link isn’t working.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/jfvouj/professor_large_danish_mask_study_rejected_by/

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 22, 2020 3:34 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

The Lancet’s professional reputation has been ruined by its Trump-hating editor Richard Horton. He allowed the publication of major research ‘showing’ that HCQ was useless or even dangerous rather than a lifesaver against Covid19. This was convincingly exposed by Dr James Todaro as fraudulent because funded by Gilead and executed by corrupt doctors. Horton was forced to retract the research and (almost) apologise after little more than a week, but the WHO continues to cite it in its warnings against HCQ. Many 1000s died unnecessarily, and HCQ continues to be banned in the UK. Just a reminder that Taiwan, pop 23m on a very small island, has suffered 7 mortalities since the pandemic began, and that its doctors have all been using HCQ routinely and correctly since the earliest cases.

https://omnij.org/Gilead:_Twenty-one_billion_reasons_to_discredit_hydroxychloroquine_(ORIGINAL_ARTICLE)

Ort
Ort
Oct 22, 2020 8:40 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

The Lancet, JAMA and New England Journal of Medicine are to the Megadeath Virus of Doom official narrative as Popular Mechanics, NOVA, and National Geographic were/are to the catastrophic events of September 11, 2001.

They all purport to be Eminently Respectable and Trustworthy organizations, and Normals– including members of the would-be intelligentsia, managerial and controller classes– are credulously enthralled by their spurious prestige and high production values.

THX-1143
THX-1143
Oct 22, 2020 12:19 AM

never believe anything until it’s been officially denied …

NoNickYet
NoNickYet
Oct 22, 2020 12:40 AM
Reply to  THX-1143

Read my lips

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 2:06 AM
Reply to  THX-1143

Not only that, they didn’t actually deny it. That’s the crazy part. They said Hillier misinterpreted a “housing” tenure.

And they purposefully avoided discussing the leaked email about Covid21, the new more virulent strain of Covid coming next year when capitalism collapses from their banker fraud and manufactured economic destruction.

We will know who to put on trial. Every participating member of parliament.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2020 6:01 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Of course they avoided discussing the leaked email; which I have on my phone, btw, and have shared it widely, as I’m sure a lot of other of us “conspiracy theorists” have.
Such staggering levels of betrayal everywhere, whether it’s Canada or Australia or New Zealand or the UK.
I wonder what filth like Trudeau or Andrews or Ardern were promised to push thru this plan? Thirty pieces of silver? Or perhaps there’s some dirty secrets in the closet so to speak?

THX-1143
THX-1143
Oct 22, 2020 9:41 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

now the main purpose of Operation Epstein becomes clear.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2020 9:58 AM
Reply to  THX-1143

Excuse my ignorance, my heads a bit foggy tonight, but the only word I can think of is…. Blackmail. There have been very large bribes offered as well tho, Belarus and Madagascar to name two.

Jason
Jason
Oct 23, 2020 6:23 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Cambodia also bribed with a loan from World Bank, sanctioned by WHO, to buy ventilators they dont need (very few cases, no deaths, and remarkably enough, NO mass testing of the local population….hence very few cases…. ,) with much cash syphoned off into government pockets no doubt. Was just enough for Cambodia to cave in and impose a very brief and mild lockdown. Flights between Cambodia and China never stopped at any point. We were very quickly back to the old normal here, minus the the crucial Tourism and Garment industries relying on overseas orders. Famine now is very real here. But no full lockdown, no compulsory masks, no strict enforced distancing, no mass testing = NO deaths from/with covid. One of the poorest and corrupt Countries in the World I now consider the most sophisticated Country in the world and i am very thankful to be “stuck” here. I… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 24, 2020 1:48 AM
Reply to  Jason

Good morning from Melbourne. I hadn’t really thought of any Asian countries when I’ve thought about ‘escaping’ to somewhere else. For now, people in Melbourne can’t go anywhere, unless they’ve bought a house interstate or have a job. There’s no international travel until mid 2021 from my understanding, tho have really tried to avoid all the MSM garbage so I’m not sure what is going on. I know restrictions have eased, but mandatory facemasks and social distancing ‘will remain for a long time’ according to the pyscho Victorian Premier, Daniel Andrews. Right thru a hot Australian summer. It shows the cruelty of this moron. Im glad for you that you’re in a relatively normal country, with no restrictions. I’m due to start my street vendor job again on Nov 2nd, but given the economy here has been smashed to pieces, and hundreds of thousands of people have lost their jobs,… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 6:35 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Trudeau is the son of another famous Trudeau. The cryptocracy are all related. That’s why all the American presidents bar one, share a common ancestor. It’s a eugenics club of very wealthy psychopaths. The Epstein Op was just more insurance against certain people, I would guess. Perhaps additional leverage in a Mossad – J_wish mafia run side benefit.

Since the NSA-CIA already have every little dirty secret on every single important or relevant person on earth, especially in the five eyes due to the Echelon program, I doubt there’s much need for blackmail. If you’re in politics you’re already dirty.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 22, 2020 9:38 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

They were undoubtedly promised untold wealth.
Hard to refuse…

richard
richard
Oct 22, 2020 4:39 PM
Reply to  Researcher

when capitalism collapses “
So an economy is capitalist by definition?

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 6:24 PM
Reply to  richard

This economy is capitalist, since it’s all backed by capital in the form of fractional reserve banking and government debt based on capital creation. Capital creation through the central banks printing of fictional money out of thin air in return for real assets is the system we are currently forced to endure and that is about to collapse which is why the IMF will insist on privatizing everything and for citizens to hand over their ability to own land, property or assets in return for a small stipend and access to the IMF’s new digital dollar system, they are calling the Global Currency Reset. The leveraging of the capital and the fraud of our current system is enabled through central bank control and ownership of the Fed, the treasury, the IRS, and all stock market exchanges, indices, and the DTCC and Cede & Co, hedge funds, industry including the largest… Read more »

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 21, 2020 11:25 PM

I woke up this morning and she wasn’t here – She has gone to see her Mum for a few Days…

Then I Read The News

The Scousers said, you are all bloody mad in London, you are even worse than The Scouse Mayor of Manchester

Why do you think he is Manchester rather than here in Liverpool.

So They Just Kept Their Gyms Open…

The Government Kept Trying to Fine Them, £1,000, and then doubled it every day

It got noticed on the Internet..

They were get donations 10 x Faster than they were Being Fined

So London Westminster Gave In

Liverpool 1 London 0

UK GOVERNMENT: Well, Ok you can keep your Gyms Open

…”But The Pubs Stay Shut”

I know the Appropriate Sign which involves a full moon too.

https://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/18810241.covid-tier-3-lockdown-gyms-across-liverpool-city-region-reopen/

That really cheered me up.

Thank God, there is still some life somewhere.

Tony

Norman Pilon
Norman Pilon
Oct 21, 2020 11:11 PM

Because I know that OffG and its dedicated and regular readers are as intent as I am upon the truth and only the truth of any issue that may be up for discussion or consideration — because after all, facts really should be sacred, and this regardless of whether those ‘facts’ confirm or challenge us in our most heartfelt assumptions and beliefs — Nafeez Ahmed’s State Propaganda in Syria: From War Crimes to Pipelines, I think, should give anyone pause on the question of whether Vanessa Beeley’s (and Eva Bartlett’s) reportages on Syria can rightly be deemed to be both independent and accurate. (see, in particular, the following sub-chapter: 3.5 The White Helmets and propaganda: myths (pp.46-57.)   There is no question, of course, that the BBC is a state propaganda outlet, and that what they intend to air that implicates Beeley may indeed be and most likely is a hit… Read more »

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 21, 2020 11:34 PM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

You mean the Nafeez Ahmed currently shilling for the Covidiocracy-1984 bio-security state?
I’ll bet he does. That operator is as compromised as it gets.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2020 6:05 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Bingo! I was about to say the exact same thing and you beat me to it.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 12:00 AM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

I wonder how much Nafeez Ahmed can be said to be objective. I have followed his comments on 9/11 as they appeared on his own site and always noted a tension whereby he seemed overly eager to avoid the “conspiracy” tag even when his researches clearly went in that direction. And then I noticed this little bit of self-advertisement: Nafeez has advised the British Foreign Office, the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, the UK Defence Academy, the Metropolitan Police Service on delivery of the Home Office’s Channel Project, and the UK Parliamentary Inquiry into UK counter-terrorism strategy. That Parliamentary Inquiry also extensively cited his written evidence in its final report and recommendations. Nafeez also authored a detailed submission to the Leveson Inquiry on the role of the British media in promoting anti-Muslim hatred.   Well you’d want to stay on the right side of that lot! And there’s his recent “refutation” of the… Read more »

Koba
Koba
Oct 22, 2020 1:44 AM
Reply to  George Mc

If they work for the elite of Britain’s military they are beyond compromised

Norman Pilon
Norman Pilon
Oct 22, 2020 2:40 AM
Reply to  George Mc

So far, three replies. Not a single one feigns to addresses the substance of Ahmed’s argument. I’ll be as lazy as the lot of you, and merely copy-and-paste a reply I left elsewhere to a similar reaction my recommendation of Ahmed’s brief elicited: Ahmed builds a case grounded in a series of itemized if purported ‘factual’ claims.If you’re going to argue that he is in the business of disinformation, you must demonstrate that his factual claims are factually false or that his interpretative framework of those claims is theoretically unwarranted.So, for instance, when he alleges that Beeley confides to a fellow pro-Assad activist that she knows that in Syria torture is standard operating procedure for the Syrian security and intelligence apparatus (pp.50-52.), but that she would never admit this publicly so as not “to give that opening to anti Syrian brigades,” then clearly Ahmed is correct to observe that this “. . . is… Read more »

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 22, 2020 5:29 AM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

More wriggling. That hook Vanessa is really hurting this worm Pilon.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 8:29 AM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

No I am not concerned with doing the “hard work” of sifting through his analysis. I am speaking about a basic fraudulent tactic i.e. to accuse others of being compromised and therefore imply that he is not. He is.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 22, 2020 3:39 PM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

Point One is negligible weak sauce. She declines to emphasize some narrative that would play right into the hands of the Regime-Change Brigade, in an effort to alleviate tensions and perhaps prevent catastrophic war. What a monster!!!

Point Two is even weaker. An appeal to “consensus” so lazy and blatant, you literally appeal to “consensus,” and then sputter a bit. Really? In the age of Covidism, where the consensus is outright demonstrably counterfactual in every material respect? Lame.

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:18 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I’m not much of a researcher (I do light research but I do that well), so I can’t say anything about the rumour (Nafeez, who is horrible and disappeared my comments on his medium article) that there’s a connection between the Great Barrington Declaration (which I find horrifying) and Charles Koch. But I’d like to know if there’s anything to do.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 2:00 PM
Reply to  Arby

To be honest, I tend to avoid extensive research myself because I think it’s a scam. I mean – if you really want the extensive route, you’d be there for the rest of your life. You could go through endless variations of articles even on just one matter. And there are certain debates that are clearly interminable e.g. melting point of steel with ref to 9/11 or even the squabbling over COVID statistics. The con is to get you bogged down in endless disputes which the rulers know will go on forever. My own strategy is to cast an extremely cynical eye on the mainstream media and take a note of anyone who doesn’t “get it” i.e. who doesn’t understand that the MSM always deceives. They lie even when telling the truth (by the way they present it). Indeed, they lie even when expressing an opinion that you agree with… Read more »

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 22, 2020 3:30 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Ahmed always based his analyses on the (unquestioned) neo-Malthusian ‘Peak Oil’ narrative.

This was understandable in the era that he published the War on Truth, because it appeared to be a very compelling motivation for the Cheney Cabal at first blush, and Michael Ruppert’s analysis in Crossing the Rubicon was a powerful ‘issue-framer’ for the entire Truth Movement.

However, Peak Oil never stood up to much scrutiny, and its dire predictions quickly became the stuff of Climate Change apocalyticism. It’s no surprise that the persistent adherents of Peak Oil, are committed to any narrative that implies the desirability of population-reduction, such as bolognavirus . And anyone willing to shill for bolognavirus is beyond redemption.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

I also recall that Nafeez published a book on the London Bombs. I recall it had several pages that were blank with a sign saying “Classified Information” or something like that. A rather odd thing to “let through”. Would it not have been more elegant to miss out those pages and just put in a note saying that some material had to be kept back? Unless of course you wanted to give the impression that you were a real badass reporter who’d uncovered The Truth but They wouldn’t let you tell it. And on looking at the book’s advert I see this: “At first, the police were sure that the bombers used weapons-grade plastic explosives and sophisticated timers. Two weeks later, they changed their minds – the bombs were home-made and were detonated manually. Since then the official account has changed repeatedly and remains riddled with anomalies and confusion. The government… Read more »

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 22, 2020 4:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Wow. Thanks for that additional background.

I guess I had already lost interest in him by the time the London book came out, and didn’t realize that he had retreated from the LIHOP-(soft)MIHOP position of War on Truth, to the completely toothless apologism of “Blowback” in the effete Chalmers-Johnson sense.

And if his adoption of the exculpatory “blowback” excuse isn’t proof enough of his complicity with Western Intelligence…he proudly advertises his subservience to them with the conspicuous disclaimer: “THIS PART IS REDACTED BECAUSE I AM BEING EDITED BY THE VERY PEOPLE I AM PRETENDING TO EXPOSE. THAT IS WHY THEY LET ME CONTINUE BEING A PLAYER IN THE GREAT GAME.”

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 22, 2020 4:00 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“you’d want to stay on the right side of that lot”. I’d say that lot want to stay safely on the side of Nafeez. That way they can virtue-signal their superior pro-Muslim credentials and values to the dumb plebs, and look tolerant and enlightened to the media. But while they still trust him, you have wised up. I don’t know his work, but I’d still bet that Nafeez is manipulating these gullible idiots so as to hasten the Islamification of the West. He knows what’s best for us all. So do you think he is driven only by the love of money and status, in traditional western style?

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 6:50 PM

Oh for fuck’s sake, Lefty Left. Islam is another pawn in the game! Nafeez is kowtowing to the Great British State. He is one of the paid up foot soldiers for our marvellous overlords. But if it makes you feel more wrathful, imagine they’re all Muslims or Jews or Klingons. Yeah whatever! You’re going to anyway.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 7:17 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And I sent that reponse off in such an irritated rush I didn’t even see the true pathetic paucity of your claim:

“I’d say that lot want to stay safely on the side of Nafeez.”

So you’ve turned it completely round then!

So the British Foreign Office, the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, the UK Defence Academy, the Metropolitan Police Service on delivery of the Home Office’s Channel Project, and the UK Parliamentary Inquiry into UK counter-terrorism strategy are all shaking in fear before the “Muslim” Ahmed?

(And I don’t even know if he IS Muslim, Hey but he looks Muslim and that’s enough, eh?)

Gosh we Westerners are so vulnerable!

I reckon that if you, Lefty Left, were on the deck of the Titanic as it was sinking, you’d be shrieking that the “Muslim deckchairs” were causing the boat to go down!

kevin
kevin
Oct 22, 2020 12:47 AM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

Well, if Nafeez Ahmed has claimed that they are compromised, I now hold them in even higher regard.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 22, 2020 5:24 AM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

I see a worm wriggling.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 9:20 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

It’s odd you should say that. When I encountered Ahmed’s oddly extensive and nervous attempts to distance his work from “conspiracy” stuff, I felt it was a clear indication that he was wiggling to stay out of the designated “crazy section” and keep in with the “proper analysis” i.e. the analysis that is permitted. He behaved like a fish caught on a line and the angler was the British state.

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:16 PM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

FAIL!

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 22, 2020 3:51 PM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

“there is no doubt that the BBC is a state propaganda outlet’. Sorry, no; in the absence of conclusive evidence and public consensus, there is no doubt that this claim is just conspiracy theory. There is also very little doubt that the elitist BBC sees itself as well above the Boris administration or any other. As politicians traditionally get their news and views almost entirely from the BBC or Guardian or Times (so much easier than talking to the dirty dumb plebs both Beeb and politicians loathe yet depend on for their livelihood and status), it makes very good sense to argue that BBC influence over government perception and policy is far greater than the reverse. And this simple argument needs no unproven conspiracy theories about state propaganda.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 21, 2020 10:10 PM

So how do we push back against this Monstrosity? She knew, and I know she knew, cos she came round our house with her boyfriend… I shook his hand, but she gave both my wife and I a massive hug and cuddle, and I gave her a kiss on the cheek as normal….like when it started to get warm – early summer in England – at the height of The Pandemic. My “Sis” is More Front Line, than any of us…She sees many patients every day She listens – and she can tell – sometimes within 30 seconds, and sometimes it can take 10 minutes.. (I reckon some of her patients turn up just to see her and empathise – “nah you will be fine love don’t worry – it will be O.K…Just do a bit more exercise…and use this massage technique, I have just showed you – it works… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 21, 2020 9:50 PM

I suppose this story seems dramatic as it seems that the BBC have sort of given the game away . That is, publicly, overtly, like it or not, demonstrated that the MSM is no more than the main cog in the establishment’s propaganda apparatus. For 20 plus years a lot of us have made that accusation and even cited several examples in support of our opinions. For our troubles we earned the title of ‘Conspiracy Nut’. A term coined by the Pied Pipers of unthinking halfwits everywhere. To me- it’s become a compliment. If they say I’m a nut, I must be doing something right. I think, in the particular historical context we find ourselves in right now, we need to revisit a couple of headlines. This is a psyop.The thinking behind the theory of it being a psyop isn’t complicated. A psyop is a psychological operation. It’s a mind… Read more »

Paul
Paul
Oct 22, 2020 1:54 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Excellent summary. What alerted me to this Psyop was the the tv reporters on the streets of China with dead bodies behind him. Why would any reporter be standing on the same street where people had been instantly killed by this deadly virus. The politicians and the media were very quick to try and sell us the new normal. In the history of other pandemics they usually do their thing briefly and then burn out but not this time. Coroni was quickly built up to be like an ageing rock star doing a few world tours every year. Life could never be the same until the whole world had taken Gates magic jab. And now permanent lockdowns are required until this jab arrives but yet we’re told it’s only going to prevent symptoms and we must take it twice a year to go about our lives. The globalists behind this… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 2:46 AM
Reply to  Paul

Thanks Paul. Some good, relevant points you make. The bodies in the street was over the top. I’m sure even half the deep didn’t buy those tickets. And as for the Gates magic jab. That’s the real sickener. here we have a man famous for co-founding Microsoft with the CIA ( but we don’t know that). Suddenly he’s the world’s leading expert on health. 30 years experimenting with viruses on computers and how to deliver Trojans and the rest of the time trying to forward his father’s agenda to rid the world of who they consider unworthy. On top of that we have actual men of medicine asking the questions we need to ask or at least have the answers to. And they get shut down or ostracised. Yet we’re supposed to buy that we’re at the mercy of a global health threat. I know a lot of tabloids and… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 3:23 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

The symptoms are radiation exposure. Not a lab made anything. The only viruses are in vaccines; toxic proteins from genetically altered animal cells, not anywhere else. There are no viruses.

Hair loss = Radiation. Not a virus.

One of the biggest shills for Covid19 is actually suffering a severe reaction to increased EMR.

https://people.com/health/alyssa-milano-dealing-with-extreme-hair-loss-brain-fog-months-after-getting-coronavirus/

I know, because it happened to me when they installed smart meters in my house and I couldn’t figure out why I was losing handfuls of hair, getting headaches, a sore throat and brain fog that never waned.

It was the two SMART meters. One in my basement and one on the outside of my house.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 5:33 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Before renegade doctors and nurses were shut down or silenced back in May / June, many came forward to report that the symptoms that had been wrongly identified as pneumonia – like were in fact far more reminiscent of Altitude sickness. Nobody mentioned radiation. I don’t think anyone medical has since. The fact that this pandemic was predicted( defying all laws of nature) in 2017 by the man who wants to make vaccines for it, and his friend who wants to buy stock in that vaccine, points toward a manipulated virus or viruses. A virus can be guessed about but it can’t be predicted with that much accuracy. I understand that vaccines can be the envelopes holding a hidden surprise that can later be ‘opened’ buy a further vaccine or EMF. But which vaccines are we talking about here. A lot of those dead hadn’t received one. Where’s the literature… Read more »

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 12:42 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

You should make it clear you are talking about “non ionizing radiation”

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 5:36 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

I thought I made it clear that i was replying to something specific as posted.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 3:39 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

No I haven’t had a flu shot. Or a vaccine. You literally are so far out of your depth from a scientific perspective it’s not worth replying any further than to say the hypoxia can be caused by millimeter waves on heme function, oxygen uptake and epithelial cell dysfunction. I’ve studied this extensively including all the papers from the dissenting “doctors”, the chemistry and biology covid papers, pre-prints, books and studies on vaccines, viruses, adjuvants, cell lines. CRISPR tech, mRNA tech, nanotech, etc. And what I discovered is there are no viruses. At all.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 5:42 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I find you tell a lot of people that they are so ‘literally’ out of their depth and you are never wrong. Unless you tell them they’re ‘talking crap’ for questioning you or disagreeing. This misplaced arrogance aside, I asked questions. I asked you questions. How is asking questions being out of anything ? Saying you’ve researched it and the questions aren’t worth answering isn’t an answer. It’s childish.

All i’d like to know is where your ‘extensive research’ took you and where you found the ‘answers’.

How you found out radiation damaged you through two smart meters.

Why you couldn’t take that to a court for the damage it caused you.

Where the ‘proof’ is of ‘no viruses’.

And how cells were ‘altered’ without human intervention.

Hollywood celebs aren’t sources.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 8:56 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

You are welcome to disagree. Your projection of your own arrogance onto me is a diversionary and passive aggressive tactic. It’s self deceptive. You ask questions that are irrelevant and designed to be insulting and tedious. They also distract from the point of my post. Watch a movie on smart meters. There’s tons of literature. You should investigate it for yourself. I have read dozens of scientific papers and studies on this “virus“, and dozens more studies on its symptoms, supposed effects, histology and pathology. I have corresponded with numerous doctors and scientists behind the scenes regarding the virus, previous research on SARS, scientific published findings on this ”virus” including therapeutics, prophylactics, various reviews of treatments, adapting and changing medical protocols, nutritional research, in silico cheminformatics papers, in vitro studies including molecular assays, in vivo studies in animal models and clinical trials in humans. I’ve read books and literature that… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 9:39 PM
Reply to  Researcher

”Your projection of your own arrogance onto me is a diversionary and passive aggressive tactic. It’s self deceptive.” Pseudo -academic statements aren’t enough this time, I’m sorry. I’m not deceiving myself. You made a number of sweeping statements that had no source. I asked you a number of questions about the statements and their sources. Do you consider somebody asking you a relevant, civil question as arrogant. Is it really-in your books- ‘arrogant’ to ask you to provide a little support other than Hollywood celebs ? How dare we… ”You ask questions that are irrelevant and designed to be insulting and tedious. They also distract from the point of my post.” My questions were unambiguous and focused sharply on the points you had made. They were designed to expand on what you were talking about and learn more about it. Why you find them tedious is your business. And why… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 9:58 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

OMG you are the most dishonest person. You just lied. In every comment to me you simply lie.

Nothing you write is true. NOTHING. You didn’t ask questions you made accusations.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 10:02 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I cannot provide you with sources of hundreds of papers and books read over 30 years, and I would never waste my time.

You are a liar. I cannot believe I ever wasted a second answering your false accusations and your vile attempts to insult me.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 10:17 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Dry your eyes, Bono.

here’s your Literacy lesson for the day.

A statement can often be a lie.

A question can never be a lie.

You’re welcome.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 10:36 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

You didn’t ask questions you implied I don’t know the cause of my own illness. 1st INSULT. That I can’t possibly know, that I need to supply proof to a troll who thinks I could have mistakenly taken a vaccine or a flu shot, (More insults) and who accused me of posting a link to a gossip rag as some kind of scientific proof when all I wrote is that one of the biggest shills for Covid is probably suffering from radiation poisoning because it’s a number one symptom of EMF-EMR sensitivity along with brain fog. 4. Different insults to me! You totally came at me. You were rude and passive aggressive. And dishonest in the way you asked your insulting questions. They are the type of questions I would expect from a troll. Why don’t you go and reread the crap you write in response to my innocuous post.… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 11:01 PM
Reply to  Researcher

”You didn’t ask questions you implied I don’t know the cause of my own illness. 1st INSULT.” According to my post, the reply to yours, i never implied a thing. I attempted to discuss it and asked if you’d taken any action with regard to the radiation that caused your hair to fall out. You could have answered. You chose not to. But you called my reply an insult. ”That I can’t possibly know, that I need to supply proof to a troll who thinks I could have mistakenly taken a vaccine or a flu shot, (More insults) ” Have you any evidence that I’m a troll( a source?). Did i say you ‘can’t possibly know” about your illness ? Or are you making that up ? Did i say i thought you’d had a vaccine – or did I ask if you’d had one in the last 6 months… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 10:11 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Oh dear.

The whole conversation is up there ^^^.

is that really all you have ? An Ad Hominem ”you lied’ answer ? I’d ask you for a source or proof but I think we both know where that would go..

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 10:25 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

You ad hommed me and lied.

You keep doing it. And you don’t and have never admitted you were wrong even though you have just been exposed on this thread, in your own words, continually lying and insulting me out of nowhere.

You insulted me and asked off track questions. On purpose. And did so repeatedly. In every single reply. Apparently you cannot stop.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 10:33 PM
Reply to  Researcher

ad hommed. Interesting verb…is it Narnian ?

I looked for the lies i allegedly told and for the insults i allegedly made.

You owe me 20 minutes of my life.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 10:17 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

I never claimed she was a source for anything. You are just the most dishonest person I have ever encountered.

I said she was shilling for covid:

Dispute that she is shilling for covid?

Explain to us all how she is not shilling for Covid?

I saw a Twitter from her more than a month ago about her hair loss. And knew exactly what it was because of my own experience. But you have to be dishonest in every comment about every point I make that counters your poorly formed and unresearched opinion.

In order to make any point at all. You simply create your own reality, instead of refuting the symptoms of radiation poisoning, one of which is HAIR LOSS. Which the CDC just added to its list which corresponds exactly with radiation pneumonitis.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 10:29 PM
Reply to  Researcher

” I never claimed d she was a source for anything. You are just the most dishonest person I have ever encountered.” In the whole post you only provided one source relevant to the subject you were selling. It was the source to Milano , a Hollywood celeb who had lost some hair and claimed in a TV interview to have had this nasty Covid 19 and now was losing hair through it. That’s what you provided. I’m not making that up. How does it make me dishonest ? ”Dispute that she is shilling for covid. I saw a Twitter from her more than a month ago about her hair loss. And knew exactly what it was because of my own experience. But you have to be dishonest in every comment.”  Ok so a Hollywood celeb( Milano again) has a twitter account. She’s still a celeb no matter what. I… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 10:52 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

I’m not SELLING ANYTHING. I was relating anecdotal evidence of a liar for covid. And the hair fall symptom of radiation. It’s not alopecia it’s hair loss from radiation. It’s completely different. The symptoms go when you block the source of the radiation and your hair grows back. Completely unconnected to there being NO VIRUS. Not connected to the NO VIRUS theory. That is separate from 5g. You actually conflated what I wrote as some kind of proof of no virus. All I was doing is relating personal experience in an anecdote. Are you claiming that 5g and covid symptoms are unrelated? Why does the CDC have the same symptoms for Covid19 on its own site that are IDENTICAL TO RADIATION ILLNESS AND RADIATION PNEUMONITIS? Explain? Let’s see some sources explaining why they are identical? Answer a single question of mine because you continue to lie and evade. The symptoms… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 11:12 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I asked for sources to the no germ / virus theory. What I believe is well documented on various threads on this site. I, however, discuss them as viable hypotheses and theories rather than undeniable, evidence- supported fact or that they’re facts because i say so. If i can provide sources for points i see as valid and important, I do. Either that or i’ll direct anyone asking for them as to how to find them. Sometimes the heavy lifting isn’t worth it. Sometimes it is. If you connected the no virus theory, the covid scam, the HCQ scam and 5G conspiracy then you can’t criticise anyone for conflating them. Even so, none of it came with primary or secondary sources. It seems to me that, despite the shock and worry of you allegedly losing clumps of hair, you have diagnosed yourself without any medical consultation. You haven’t asked for… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

I cannot sue the hydro-electric company here! They will not remove my smart meters. They will not install analog meters. It took me years to figure out what the problem was. Endless doctors visits, specialists, hundreds of bullshit forums and threads on hair loss for women. Thousands and thousands of dollars down the drain along with my hair.

There is no legal recourse where I live and most doctors don’t even recognize that radiation causes hair loss and brain fog.

oliver oloula
oliver oloula
Oct 22, 2020 9:50 AM
Reply to  Researcher

You’re right on the money.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2020 6:47 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Really appreciate both your comments here Jura. You make much much sense, and noted a line in your first comment: ‘this was an ambitious overreach by the establishment, and was always going to rely on the fear and ignorance of as large a slice of the population as possible’. Here in Melbourne, they appear to have succeeded well beyond what they would have thought would be their best outcome. From my own observations, it seems more your liberal The Guardian reading, white collar, PC types who are most on board and compliant with this massive scam. In my opinion, fear of their own mortality has played a big factor in why so many have fallen into line. And the media have really played on this. Like you said, they’ve been handed their scripts. I told a now former friend (covid true believer) about Gates plans for what would be going… Read more »

Rancid
Rancid
Oct 22, 2020 11:59 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I’m in Queensland, if you didn’t look at the media or visit a government office you wouldn’t even know there was a virus, life is old normal. Melbourne really must be a nightmare.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2020 12:35 PM
Reply to  Rancid

I’ve had 9 days work since mid March, and coz I’m a New Zealand citizen, I get no dole or Jobkeeper (legally a subcontractor) the rest of the time in lockdown. Hundreds of thousands of people have lost their jobs for good, entire streets of shops won’t open again, and a lot of people will be lucky if they can still pay their mortgage. The economy is completely trashed, and once Jobkeeper stops, there’s going to be a lot of homeless people here. I’m really lucky that my housing organisation has given me a rent freeze since late March, however they’re now making noises they have to finish it soon. I’m meant to go back to work on Nov 2nd, but my income is solely reliant on people’s disposable, spare income. There’s a lot of people in Melbourne who are very broke. And despite the devastation here, lots of people… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 5:50 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Thanks Gez I share your frustration Re the sheep’s predictable, unimaginative and woeful quips. It’s tempting to give them a dog sometimes. You can always force them to question their own so called conclusions ( ”you’re a conspiracy theorist”). Ask them why doctors would need to lie about the virus and ask why they need to lie for cash to make the figures rise. Ask them why psychologists and software magnates are at war with a virus but medical doctors are being gagged. These are facts. Not theories. I sympathise with the Ozzies. I think the specific way in which they’re being abused by their cattle prodders has a rationale behind it. You / we won’t understand it until down the line. Your leaders will explain that their ‘hard line’ was the mist effective strategy based on the way the virus was stopped in it’s tracks. The idea behind that… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 22, 2020 10:00 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

You could also add this question to your list:
As the symptoms keep varying (according to country) or expanding, and since re-infections have occured, this implies that the “virus” is mutating; so how can a vaccine work?

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 5:33 PM
Reply to  mgeo

True.

We see that, as time passes, more people ask relevant questions and protest. This is because there’s a mentality of ”where the f**k is this so called virus” growing. So we get told ” oops it mutated”.

OK Mister Fauci, have you any evidence of what it looked like before ? How can you tell somethings mutated if you’ve never seen it and still can’t. And why after 9 months haven’t you found it and isolated it.

It’s psychological war. As such it could be won by producing evidence. By the same token it can be lost by being found out ; that none exists.

So why hasn’t it been won ? Because those cheating also make the rules and they also mutate as the game continues .

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 22, 2020 9:54 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Easy. More jabs will do the trick. Bigger profits too.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 22, 2020 5:37 AM
Reply to  Paul

“[Bill Gates]jab arrives but we’re told it’s only going to prevent symptoms and we must take it twice a year

NanoSoft’s Con-19 anti-virus jabwear is modelled on Micro-Soft’s anti-virus software: Compel the suckers to keep paying.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Oct 21, 2020 11:12 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Volunteer Dies During AstraZeneca COVID-19 Vaccine Trial
by GreatGameIndia

A volunteer has died during trial of COVID-19 vaccine developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University. No further details were provided citing medical confidentiality of those involved in trials. After the news broke out AstraZeneca shares fell 1.7%. Brazilian health authority Anvisa said on Wednesday that a volunteer in a clinical trial of the COVID-19 vaccine […]

Read more of this post

https://greatgameindia.com/covid-19-vaccine-volunteer-dies/

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 2:21 AM
Reply to  Grafter

Placebo! Impossible.

Their vaccine is designed to rewrite your DNA and instructs your cells to make a spike protein that can evade your T-cells and lymphocytes. That and the adjuvants, cause an overt immune response leading to cytokine storm syndrome and toxic shock.

It changes your DNA. Forever.

If they are including the self assembling nanowires and nano receivers in the vaccines then that will double the risk.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 22, 2020 6:25 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Unorthodox technology ought not to be rushed for trial. It needs at least another 20 years of risk evaluation before being launched on the trusting public. How different, how very different, from our own dear Russian vaccine — made by Orthodox method for annual flu shots.

“How different, how very different from the home life of our own dear Queen!” — Victorian cartoon after a performance of Antony and Cleopatra.

oliver oloula
oliver oloula
Oct 22, 2020 10:08 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

All vaccines are poison. Viruses don’t exist. Nobody, including so-called virologists in Russia has EVER isolated a virus. No virus, no vaccine.

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:26 PM
Reply to  oliver oloula

That’s what I’ve come to believe. It’s a scam and covid 19 is an extension of it and is enabled by it.

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Actually, What’s really needed is for the unprincipled schemers with riches, and therefore power and too much freedom, to get real jobs and contribute to, rather than feed off of, society. They are cursed with smarts and because they already don’t want to work for a living, they find it too easy to be inventive in that mad Nazi scientist sort of way, looking for the big kaching when they come up with tech that the war-making, anti-people, State can use. They are also cursed by their choices – to be arrogant and to think that they are God and to act accordingly, which won’t go well for them in the long run.

oliver oloula
oliver oloula
Oct 22, 2020 10:00 AM
Reply to  Researcher

True.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 12:48 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I think you overestime their abilities it’s just a case if dirty wild simian virus like in the Sabin poluo virus or mercury and aluminium and formaldehyde preservatives….They are the silly nan behind the curtain They way they rule is with fanatasy and a echo chamver media and silencing heretics… hardly new or original religion has been doing that for millenia.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 3:04 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

There are no viruses.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 22, 2020 3:07 PM
Reply to  Grafter

I know someone in Oxford who was an early volunteer for the Oxford Uni vaccine trial. He told me that he’d been a bit unwell for a couple of days, but after that he was fine. However, as was reported in the Oxford local press when the trial started, the “placebo” given was not a true placebo, but the meningitis vaccine. My private guess is that my acquaintance was given the “placebo”, and that’s what made him feel unwell. It might have more serious effects on some individuals. The Brazilian doctor who died, who was given the “placebo”, supposedly died of Covid-19, but who really knows? Seemingly, they hardly ever use true placebos nowadays in vaccine trials. I asked David Crowe about this when the Oxford trial was announced.. He said it was a ploy to cover up the side effects of the vaccines, caused by adjuvants etc, which the… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 21, 2020 9:40 PM

I ran political advertising for Twitter. It’s time for platforms to mute Trump. Social media platforms should silence the president until the winner of the election is clear — Peter D. Greenberger, launched and led the political advertising teams at both Google and Twitter, writing in The Washington Post, Oct 19, 2020. Private corporations are not required to uphold the First Amendment. But even if they were, speech is not protected if you yell “fire” in a crowded theater. Trump is telling people holding tiki torches to “stand by” to set the country aflame. Why wait for him to call on armed supporters to take to the streets? This guy is a fantasist. Sadly his delusions are shared by many. He is lying on every point. I am a liberal. This guy is not a liberal.. he just has money and influence to impose his views on the masses. Why… Read more »

David Bishop
David Bishop
Oct 21, 2020 10:07 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Never let a good despot go to waste.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 21, 2020 11:44 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Fantasist.”

It’s extraordinary how these fire-and-brimstone “liberal” commentators so wantonly flip from rhetorical literalism to cartoonish hyperbole, so as to completely whipsaw any reader who doesn’t recognize it as pilpul from the word ‘go.’

“Oh, some pollyanna naysayers defend freedom of speech! But speech shouldn’t be free if it poses a clear and present danger! And if your gramma supports Trump she’s a clear and present danger to the very existence of humanity! She’s got a bomb! Look out granny’s got an atom bomb, and she’s pointing it right at a baby hugging an endangered baby spotted seal! O god! Stop granny! Stop her now! Kill her! Kill your grandmother before she kills us all! KILL KILL KILL

Koba
Koba
Oct 22, 2020 1:50 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Libs and especially radlibs (the pro tranny ones people call Marxists incorrectly) are just mindless people and almost all are closet racists. Everyone they don’t like is a Nazi or Russian bot

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:36 PM
Reply to  Koba

Libs have betrayed liberal philosophy. Chris Hedges may have swallowed the Covid Kool-Aid, but his book about that betrayal, “Death Of The Liberal Class,” was spot on. He doesn’t hold liberal philosophy up as being perfect. He makes – very, very firmly – the point that self-identified liberals have thoroughly betrayed their liberal principles. And they aren’t the only traitors these days. Almost everyone in every (religious, philosophical, political) group is a traitor. I watch UK Column News regularly (where they get ‘almost’ everything right) and they are small ‘c’ Conservatives and they bemoan Boris Johnson’s, and his entire government’s, destruction of the UK (which isn’t completely correct, since independent sovereign nations are mostly an illusion now) and ask “Is that what it means to be Conservative?” Don’t Conservatives conserve their traditions and culture and so on? (Personally, I find that to be a poor way to proceed. It’s formulaic.… Read more »

oliver oloula
oliver oloula
Oct 22, 2020 10:10 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Not me.

Loverat
Loverat
Oct 21, 2020 9:29 PM

im a big fan of ‘Media on Trial’ events.

Beeley among a line up of incredible speakers. Vanessa’s passion for justice came across.

Piers Robinson too. Modest but an incredible intellect who can talk plainly.

Amazing people.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 22, 2020 6:27 AM
Reply to  Loverat

“The salt of the Earth” — New Testament

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:39 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

I’ll buy that. And that makes them important, which is why Jesus also warned that ‘If the salt loses it’s strength, with what will it be seasoned?’ Or something like that.

Paul
Paul
Oct 21, 2020 9:16 PM

I’m not a huge Trump fan but he’s absolutely right when he said ‘the fake news media are the greatest enemy of the people’.

We see it time and time again.

The BBC are prime example.

It’s just 24/7 state propaganda with the sole intention of brainwashing the viewer.

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 22, 2020 2:15 AM
Reply to  Paul

Same thing here with the ABC national Aussie broadcaster. Its even worse than the commercial TV channels.

oliver oloula
oliver oloula
Oct 22, 2020 10:17 AM
Reply to  Paul

Trump is not special. He’s a criminal, same as every other US president before him. What else is there to say?

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:41 PM
Reply to  oliver oloula

Very correct. Jon Rappoport rips into him in a recent blog post and then, sadly, urges people to vote for him instead of Biden. Jon does great work, but he fails with this encouragement to people to play the harmful voting game.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 21, 2020 9:00 PM

If you are an honest liberal — not a CIA-diplomat-establishment cocktail liberal-when-drunk or a small-c conservative who needs to seem edgy to make friends — but an honest liberal, you will listen to the latest broadcast by Dan Bongino. He’s a pretty good antidote. Want to keep lying to yourself? Stop reading now. Bongino is an independent radio host who reaches more people than the New York Times or the Washington Post. He’s usually in the top five on Facebook. Yeah, yeah, he’s a conservative. I can tell you as a liberal, ex-BBC journalist, that Bongino is a supreme professional in the art of radio, possessed of good insight and a humorous lash of wit that is lacking on state, establishment drone TV. He just happens to be a former secret service, Republican type. So what, if he’s good at what he does? His latest broadcast answers the Washington Post’s… Read more »

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:42 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I’ve tried to listen to Dan. My cousin likes him. I can’t stomach his constant Dems vs Repubs diatribes. I don’t have time for that. He would be a lot more productive and useful if he’d abandon that nonsense.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Oct 21, 2020 8:54 PM

The bbc doesn’t have the clout it once did and their continued scaremongering is pissing everyone off. Their news desk at the bbc has exposed the organisation for what it really is.

The bbc slander might just backfire and cause a rush for more info. It wouldn’t be the first time. If the bbc has bothered to report the carry on over at the OPCW then semi comatose viewers will know that there is more to the story. Those viewers not familiar with the good work of Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett might just get acquainted with it.

hendRIK Pieters
hendRIK Pieters
Oct 21, 2020 8:45 PM

I know all of this monstrous scheme.
Syrie was a nice country, good education, good medical support, food, and freedom. A rich country too, because it has all sorts of natural richness.
This is another war for oil.

Dabuyo
Dabuyo
Oct 22, 2020 8:32 PM

Syria has small insignificant amounts if Oil…No, this war *was” (Russia shut it down) for Israel. All the last thirty years of war by the west have been for Israel.

hendRIK Pieters
hendRIK Pieters
Oct 22, 2020 8:54 PM
Reply to  Dabuyo

That’s probably very true, the whole arabic spring was only to give the Khazarians more space and less people around their country they stole from the jews.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 21, 2020 8:42 PM

Here’s how it’s going to go: https://time.com/5898763/michigan-kidnapping-far-right-extremism/ “‘A Perfect Storm.’ The Michigan Plot Lays Bare the Dangers of Ignoring the Far-Right Threat For two decades, U.S. terrorism efforts were almost exclusively fixed on disrupting plots masterminded by jihadist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS. … All the while, the threat posed by homegrown far-right extremists deepened. Groups operated in the shadows, spreading hate-filled messages and amassing unlikely followers as social media use soared. Right-wing and white nationalist terrorist attacks spiked, killing twice as many Americans in domestic terror attacks than radical Islamists have since 9/11. Last week, there was a sign that the federal government’s priorities may finally be shifting to meet that reality. On Thursday, federal and state authorities revealed a high-profile bust of an elaborate scheme to kidnap the Democratic governor of Michigan Gretchen Whitmer, resulting in the arrest of 13 people linked with a local rightwing militia group.…… Read more »

T.Bone Erectus
T.Bone Erectus
Oct 21, 2020 9:33 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You are either intentionally spreading false information or badly misinformed.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 21, 2020 11:20 PM
Reply to  T.Bone Erectus

Almost everything in my comment was a quote. The only bit that wasn’t was analysis of the quoted part and a prophecy. How can any of that be described as “false information”?

T.Bone Erectus
T.Bone Erectus
Oct 21, 2020 11:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Parroting the lies of a socialist propaganda website does not magically make your comments become the truth.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 8:22 AM
Reply to  T.Bone Erectus

My comments were critical of the WSWS. Part of my entire approach here is based on the gullibility of those “socialist propaganda” websites (if you must). You are clearly not reading what I have written and are just reacting to a straw man image in your head.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Oct 21, 2020 11:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You are blind and very stupid, but as a right-wing person I will leave you alone rather than do the left-wing white supremacist BLM thing … come and set your house, or at the very least, your local shops, on fire.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 8:24 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

I am speaking about divide-and-rule tactics via these routine images of the Left/Right schism i.e. these very images which you are feeding with your knee jerk response.

Koba
Koba
Oct 22, 2020 1:55 AM
Reply to  George Mc

WSWS is a terrible socialists site and is quite obviously controlled opposition. It supports most colour revolutions, hates actually existing socialism And parrots the msm A LOT! Hardly fighting against the grain are they! They were anti covid protests and said everyone taking part was a dumb right winger wanting to kill the elderly but were magically pro Belarusian paid protestors and fake Marxist BLM riots

Someone
Someone
Oct 22, 2020 4:00 AM
Reply to  Koba

They’re Trots. Trots are useless. I don’t get why anyone still reads that thing.

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:45 PM
Reply to  Someone

They’ve actually done some very good reportage, like a lot of fakey orgs. Their reportage on the traitorous union leadership was useful. Even before I realized that they were hardcore fakers, I was finding that my comments there were being disappeared. Then with covid 19, things became crystal clear.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2020 8:26 AM
Reply to  Koba

Thank you for being the first commenter here to actually understand what I was saying. The two before you have only reinforced the image of the Right as unbelievable dumb asses i.e. at least as dumb as the mainstream Left.

oliver oloula
oliver oloula
Oct 22, 2020 10:39 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Don’t be grateful. It’s not necessary. What you say is true.

oliver oloula
oliver oloula
Oct 22, 2020 10:34 AM
Reply to  Koba

True.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 22, 2020 2:36 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes. This is what they’re building… Vaccine skeptics and anti-lockdown people are all “rabid right-wing terrorists”.

This is mainly why I despise Trump. He’s pretending to be at odds with Fauci but he’s giving money to GAVI.

He’s totally neutered all opposition to the coming annihilation. He and the CIA with their MKUktra militias going up against the paid BLM lunatics are going to create a faux civil war.

It’s faker than the damn virus.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Oct 21, 2020 8:35 PM

Funny talking about MSM hit pieces!

This wonderful video dismantles one of the most ABSURD article written about war criminal, hair sniffer, PFinger and corrupt scum, I’ve ever read in the recent times.

For those morons – and there are plenty – in Europe that “think” Joe Biden is better than mutTrump do enjoy REALITY!

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 12:45 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

A 3rd rate comedian tackling satire on a youtube channel with a captured audience as convincing as canned laughter..

The headlines..all about personality and personality traits. It’s like a daytime TV waste of time where a load of women sit around drinking mugs of caffeine having in depth discussions about ‘goss’. Childish shallow snipes..

The result is an irritating half hour of hysteria and anger. From a man who thinks it’s wondeful to have a self serving arrogant celebrity property developer using his position in The White House to try and intimidate anyone and everyone. Some fool who tries to run the world from his Twitter account.

Mister Dore.. tackle Fauci and Gates. Tackle Pharma . Tackle the inaction of a president who had to fake having covid 19 to get votes. Or just stick to open mic nights..people stopped caring about Rolling Stone 10 years ago.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 21, 2020 8:16 PM

Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett are two of my heroes.

They are just so brave.

I do apologise, but I have just read something very interesting and funny in The Guardian – even the links are great. The last time this happenned was about 6 weeks and the moderator here edited the link, which I thought was quite funny (it still worked, but he didn’t want The Guradian to get a click). I won’t risk it again, but I am going to have to see The New Borat movie – when Amazon offers me a Free Week. I might even do it for 99p if there is anything I want to buy.

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Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Oct 21, 2020 8:38 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Me too, big fan.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 21, 2020 8:41 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

“I am going to have to see The New Borat movie”.

You want anything to do with the guy who could deliver this?…

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 21, 2020 11:35 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I remember that speech and especially this bit: “…at a time when two-thirds of millennials say they haven’t even heard of Auschwitz, how are they supposed to know what’s “credible?” How are they supposed to know that the lie is a lie?” My jaw hit the floor when I heard that. Consider the implication: If you’ve never heard of Auschwitz, you cannot know what’s credible! Is that supposed to cover every single topic? No-one anywhere can know what’s credible on any subject, in any place, at any time unless they’ve heard of Auschwitz? The entire history of the human race can only be interpreted through the prism of Auschwitz? And when I accessed a text version of the speech, this linked to an article concerned about “fading Holocaust knowledge”. This article was only available through subscription to theWashington Post. Oh dear – I’ll need to skip it. But the title tells… Read more »

Arby
Arby
Oct 22, 2020 1:47 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Sacha’s filth. On Palestine and Israel, he’s as evil as they come.

axisofoil
axisofoil
Oct 21, 2020 7:56 PM

Fake news has been around for a long time and always will be.

https://youtu.be/h7yzi1I_Zsk?t=2

https://youtu.be/LmfVs3WaE9Y

Maggie
Maggie
Oct 21, 2020 8:06 PM
Reply to  axisofoil

AxisO.. Love, loved George Carlin…. Oh how I wish we had someone around now who tells it as it is.
American comedian Jimmy Doyle does his bit, but is not nearly as scathing and real as George was.

richard
richard
Oct 21, 2020 8:23 PM
Reply to  Maggie

Steve Hughes is like a modern George Carlin…

gorden
gorden
Oct 21, 2020 7:17 PM

lisa doucett man or woman bbc thing ex chatham house

one should look at many war correspondent as forward military advisor agents

city of london washington new york zionist
creatures of the oded yinon

Syrian man calling a possible trans BBC journalist a “liar” as she he squirms from the truth.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bbe_1456784851

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 21, 2020 7:11 PM

It only just occurred to me that the media can be decoded by perfect inversion e.g. the moment they declared a war on “fake news”, they started to give us nothing but fake news.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 21, 2020 8:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

‘fake news’ was Trump’s version of just saying ‘lies’. Theresa May ( and Trump) later used the phrase ‘alternative facts’. Again, all it means is ‘lies’.

Orwell called this Doublespeak / Doublethink before either were born.

All you need to do now is invert everything else and realise our reality is a looking glass reality. It looks perfectly real. But it’s back to front.

So when you hear a leader who says ‘liberty’ too much or ‘democracy’ you’ll see he’s really saying bondage and dictatorship.

When they insist that world peace is the top of their agenda, you’ll realise they mean the need to sustain a state of war in as many places as possible ( see their methods of maintaining that ‘peace’).

They talk about ending homelessness, and creating jobs. How does that pan out ?

Best one : In God we trust.

ChinchillaOfDoom
ChinchillaOfDoom
Oct 21, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

‘fake news’ was Trump’s version of just saying ‘lies’. Theresa May ( and Trump) later used the phrase ‘alternative facts’. Again, all it means is ‘lies’.

Trump was briefed by his lawyers and warned against calling the MSM liars for fear of lawsuits.

Best one : In God we trust.

I prefer leaders of the free world, or land of the free.

Freedom fries anyone?

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 21, 2020 8:45 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

They are doing our heads in using their most powerful psychological techniques, but once we learn and practice their skills (there are much more of us – like 7 Billion VS about 1000 or so complete evil arseholes – if you include Luke Harding)

What they do to us, (send us mad)..We should be able to do to them, such that people like Matt Hancock can’t string a sentence together, that makes any sense whatsoever.

It can’t be that far off.

Has he been taking lessons from Joe Biden?

At least Donald Trump looks like a Rock Star..

The choices The Americans have got, makes even some of our politicians appear sane.

Tony

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 5:50 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

They can’t bend my head. Not under natural conditions. It’s not an easy mind to bend. They’ll have a chance if they invade / attack it with unnatural methods( poison or emf). I don’t care how powerful their ‘psychological techniques’ are. Besides, they daren’t gamble that much. If they want to crush us they need to know they have the arsenal and we have no defence. They only use mind games in the preliminaries because the majority of fodder are easily led. We can’t send them mad. They already arrived there. That’s how they got their jobs. The checklist for psychosis / psychopathy is alarmingly short. The major players tick every box. If any of them show a hint of guilt or conscience they’re out of a job. The Americans have a choice between two complete dickheads. Like the last election.Not like the good old days when the slick suited… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 22, 2020 10:31 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Corporate culture and marketing is largely such alternative words and meanings. If you want to go up the ladder, you internalise it.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 21, 2020 8:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Didn’t Orwell base “The Ministry of Truth” on the BBC?

richard
richard
Oct 21, 2020 8:34 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

room 101 was in the beeb

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Oct 22, 2020 6:01 AM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

It was based on Senate House in London, a far more imposing structure and where his wife had worked in the Ministry Of Information at some earlier time. In the book it’s a 900 foot Pyramid and has a huge basement for ‘burning history’ in incinerators.

Koba
Koba
Oct 22, 2020 2:02 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The news pre trump was quite bad and quite openly fake but since then he’s broke something in the two camps of the elites brains all because he says in public what they say privately