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This Week in the Guardian #16 – Presidential Election Special Biden well definitely win, he certainly didn’t cheat, postal ballots are great, and don’t worry the US will be back to “world leadership” and “democracy promotion” in no time.

The Big Day is almost upon us. Soon Orange Man Bad will be banished back the nether-realm, and good old (not at all creepy) Uncle Joe will be in charge. Briefly. Until he loses the few faculties remaining to him, and we get landed with President Kamala Harris. A politician so incredibly unpopular within her own party she couldn’t even ride the triple identity coups of being black AND Indian AND a woman to success.
Our friends at The Guardian have been busier than Christmas elves on this one. They all likely have opinion pieces ready for morning after election night. Stuff about healing and growing. (Maybe they’ll just use the same column they were going to use last time, but change all the “Hillarys” to “Bidens” using find and replace).

Joe Biden: from a campaign that almost collapsed to fighting Trump for the presidency

This long piece tells an interesting story, just not the one it thinks it’s telling. They try to spin the tale of Biden’s Lazarus-like presidential campaign, without coming to the logical conclusion that presents itself.

I’m going to bullet point out the narrative here, and see if you can spot the glaringly obvious idea, which the Guardian seems to miss:

  • Joe Biden was a late entrant to a crowded Democratic field.
  • He was seen as old fashioned and non-progressive, but had powerful financial backers.
  • He lost the first three primaries embarrassingly badly.
  • There was a generalised panic in the DNC that Sanders might win the nomination.
  • Biden wins the 4th primary by a landslide in a “miraculous turnaround”.
  • All the other candidates start dropping out one-by-one and endorsing Biden.

It’s fairly clear what’s going on here, no?

Is Biden going to win?

The short answer to this appears to be “yes!”. They have not 1, not 2, but 3 separate articles saying as much. Many of them devoted entirely to citing polls and then saying “yes, the polls said Hillary would win, but this is different”.

For example:

Polling is better now, and Biden’s lead is larger than Hillary Clinton’s was.”

Thank god for those leaps forward in polling technology, amirite?

Of course this nailed-down certainty of victory is, in and of itself, a tactic. It doesn’t necessarily mean the result is a foregone conclusion. But it really feels like the result is fixed for Biden, and everyone knows it.

Bu…that is what we said last time, too.

OK, so Biden won, now what?

Since it’s almost certain Good Joe is going to beat Bad Donald (yes, that’s really the level of political analysis we’re dealing with here), maybe we should focus on what Joe is going to do when he’s in office.

There’s lots of talk about that (and none of what will happen if Trump wins, further suggesting a fixed result).

Robert Reich thinks Biden should “fix democracy”. “Fix” being the perfect word. He thinks they should “reform” the electoral college and the Supreme Court, as well as adding more Senators for certain states and even splitting california into two states (thus doubling it’s senator count). This would apparently make democracy “fairer”, and not in anyway simply give voting power to traditionally democratic states.

Simon Tisdall is in ecstasy as he expects Biden to resume the US’s “global leadership”. Jeffrey Frankel says Biden is “safe hands for the eocnomy”.

This article promises “something big” in Biden’s first 100 days, to “fight the coronavirus”. There will likely be a “national mask mandate” and moves to “counter disinformation.”

But by far the worst offender – and a solid contender for the worst, most dishonest article of the year – is this piece from Richard Wolffe.

In it he laments that Trump has “damaged US democracy”, by suggesting it could be corrupt (without ever mentioning all the evidence that it is so). He praises US foreign policy for “focusing on democracy promotion” (yes, seriously):

For most of the last 30 years, since the fall of the Soviet Union, democracy promotion has been a mainstay of American foreign policy […] the US plays a central role in spreading democratic government around the world.

He goes in to raptures about how Biden will resume US efforts to “spread democracy”. It is quasi-masturbatory Imperialist garbage. And it’s likely just a taste of what’s in store should Biden win.

Hunter who?

No coverage at all of the Hunter Biden laptop story, or even a discussion about his obviously corrupt employment by Ukrainian energy giant Burisma. (Imagine the news if Trump’s government had backed a change of government in Venezuela, and then Donald Jr. had been given a job in the largest Venezuelan oil company).

One step further, the only talk about the Biden e-mails we get is one column claiming Facebook and Twitter were right to censor the information “because it might be false”, and they should do it more often. And another which, with a straight face, says:

Media organisations shouldn’t publish allegations unless they believe them to be true, after making appropriate checks.

…this from a paper which published a proven falsehood on its front page, and never apologised or retracted it (in fact, it’s still there to this day).

Bonus 1: Vote by mail!

The Guardian (along with most of the media) is really keen on mail-in ballots, and wants you all to know that they are NOT easier to cheat with. As we have written before, this is historically completely incorrect – postal ballots are far more susceptibale to voter fraud. This article is actually just a reprint of something they ran in August – both times it was paid-for content by non-governmental organizations.

BONUS 2: Don’t worry, the military will only get involved “if it’s close”

An entire column dedicated to the US military’s involvment in the election seems bizarre…but there is one. Don’t worry they would “prefer not to get involved” and will likely only be forced to act “if the result is very close” and/or someone contests the elections.

It’s a strange article, it doesn’t have an author attached to it, and seems to be answering a question no one asked. Or apologising for some slight no one has committed. What it feels like, is a justification for crime yet to come to light. “We HAD to rig the election, because if it had been close then Trump would have contested the vote and the military would have got involved.”

Maybe I’m reading too much into it. But it is very odd.

*

So, here is the Guardian’s story of election laid out in nice neat terms:

  1. Biden will win.
  2. He didn’t cheat.
  3. When he’s won he’ll change the laws and courts.
  4. Really, he didn’t cheat. Even suggesting it is bad for democracy.
  5. The US will resume “democracy promotion” and “world leadership” once he’s in charge.
  6. The US military don’t want to be involved but they might have to if it’s close.
  7. Seriously, he didn’t cheat.

*

All told, a busy week for The Guardian. And we didn’t even mention how “women will decide this election”, or how Trump “supercharged Russian disinformation” has gone into overdrive.
Did we miss anything? Tell us about it in the comments below, and keep an eye out for articles that should go in the next issue (hopefully not about the coronavirus).

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Kevin
Kevin
Nov 5, 2020 3:36 AM

“Many of them devoted entirely to citing polls and then saying “yes, the polls said Hillary would win, but this is different”.For example: “Polling is better now, and Biden’s lead is larger than Hillary Clinton’s was.””

  • I just read that this year’s polling was off more than 2x what it was in 2016. So, in a way, they were right – it is different : its much worse. Time to tweak those statistical programs you are using – clearly, they aren’t for shit.
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Nov 4, 2020 4:59 PM

Some idiot scribbler in the Journal section of the Grauniad yesterday was writing that now we have to give precedence to the “virus” and not to the economy.

In other words, having let the economy slowly bleed to death for 8-9 months, just when it had some small chance of recovery, we now have to give it the coup de grâce.

James Brown
James Brown
Nov 4, 2020 1:12 AM

Doesn’t matter who wins the American election. Whoever wins, the agenda has already been decided. We all know where this is heading and it’s not going to be good, its pure unadulterated evil.

Carol
Carol
Nov 4, 2020 1:57 PM
Reply to  James Brown

Yes. You are right. The difference now, is that the agenda is so global.

James Brown
James Brown
Nov 4, 2020 1:03 AM

The Guardian should be renamed The Cummins Chronicle. Traitorous govt stooges.

Kalen
Kalen
Nov 3, 2020 11:16 PM

OG warned about ongoing fascist coup d’etat imposing totalitarian rule everywhere only to be dismissed by MSM as peddling conspiracy theories.

from ABC:

Sutter County Superior Court Judge Sarah Heckman tentatively ruled that one of the dozens of executive orders Gov. Newsom has issued overstepped his authority and was “an unconstitutional exercise of legislative power.”

She more broadly barred him “from exercising any power under the California Emergency Services Act which amends, alters, or changes existing statutory law or makes new statutory law or legislative policy.”‘

Another governor blatantly abused power under COVID sham, imposed totalitarian rule changing laws singlehandedly and was applauded for it by brainwashed liberals calling him a savior.

that is how American fascism infiltrates society.

Another conspiracy theory became conspiracy fact.

-CO
-CO
Nov 3, 2020 7:34 PM

Biden can hardly change his socks never mind changing the laws and courts. The focus should be in changing the court system here in the UK ASAP and the states back to its lawful common law roots and bringing the perpetrators of the mess we are in to justice under common law. This has to happen otherwise Joe Biden will continue to wave to people who are not there in his mask while pretending to be a president if he is fortunate enough to win!!!! Anything is possible in a magic show!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 3, 2020 6:15 PM

Dan Bongino still makes more sense than the rest. I get it if you don’t like his politics, or prickle suspicious at humor…if a sense of fun makes you antsy, and you want it darker or a drop more sour… Fine.

What’s your riposte? Entertain me because life is short.

https://bongino.com/ep-1384-its-on

Kalen
Kalen
Nov 3, 2020 6:03 PM

Last four years of liberal left, pseudo left and even lapsed Marxist left (abandoning revolutionary agenda of systemic overthrow engaging in corrupted mainstream politics ) phony struggles subjected to convenient credibility building censorship by corporate and SV media ultimately lost any political weight by submission to COVID lockdowns sham that in fact constitutes direct attack against working people worldwide.

All of those leftist boutiques elites stayed silent or even loudly supported socioeconomically and medically destructive policies of governments usurping near totalitarian powers, with only mild opportunistic critiques for benefit of their specific narrow constituencies, while adopting and proliferating mainstream propaganda,

it was my criticism of such attitude of betrayal of basic leftist agenda in context of COVOD that got me banned from many leftist blogs in Mid March and that included series of my comments on WSWS like this one that got be kicked out.

The major problem in any pandemic as I see it, is that too many people these days including even many versed in Marx pseudo leftists are simply scared to death or turn opportunists whether they admit it or not as skepticism and honesty vanishes dissolved in fear as Camus warned.

And hence they no longer seek knowledge, no truth, no understanding of objective reality of any pandemic and definitely apply no Marxist analysis based on objective material reality required to produce sound actions and informed judgments as all history and historical process seems denied squeezed into explicitly or implicitly accepted fantasy of new post pandemic era.

Instead recognition of continuity of historical process they dwell in comfortable willful ignorance of pre-pandemic era as revolutionaries of ideology of abundance of caution, concept alien to brave, courageous even heroic but rational socialists of the past, de facto fueling mass psychosis of fear serving only interests of ruling elite.

It is perhaps because knowledge would then tell them not to irrationally fear this COVID pandemic any more than at worse a bad seasonal flu pandemic that in this supposedly mild season infected already at minimum 40 millions (CDC) of Americans, sent hundreds of thousands to hospitals and killed tens of thousands already and keeps killing with no whimper about it in media for half a year of such carnage.

The acknowledgement of those CDC sourced hard facts would perhaps present those people with legitimate and disturbing questions of huge, historically unprecedented disproportionality of response to COVID, extremely puzzling and suspicious targeting of that response toward completely unrelated efforts and who actually benefited from such huge exaggeration of public threat and what was then true motivation of broadly publicized early, overblown pandemic projections of doom only to be downgraded orders of magnitude to numbers so far much below or in some hot spots similar to bad seasonal flu numbers.

Denny Kirk
Denny Kirk
Nov 3, 2020 9:37 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Kalen,
I read many of your comments on WSWS and they were always insightful. Keep plugging ahead. Your voice is needed and will be needed more as the world gets closer to the edge of the abyss as the Transnational Capitalist Class will begin to flex it’s muscles. Peace.

What's Happening?
What's Happening?
Nov 3, 2020 5:59 PM

Of course it’s rigged, only it will be Trump who wins.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 3, 2020 5:45 PM

Unless anybody knows of earlier reports, Zero Hedge are six months behind in reporting on Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano. The initial appeal was launched in May, with a follow-up letter a month later, and further letters in September and October.
Appeal – May 7, 2020
https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/archbishop-warns-trump-must-save-humanity-global-conspiracy-against-god
“A Global Conspiracy Against God” – Archbishop Says Trump Is Only One To Save Humanity From ‘The Great Reset’
by Tyler Durden
Mon, 11/02/2020
The Italian archbishop best known for confronting Pope Francis over the Vatican’s willful blindness to priests who abuse boys has written a letter in which he lashes out at the “global elite”, prompting some to accuse him of sympathizing with the “QAnon” movement of conspiracy theorists.
The letter, penned by Archibishop Carlo Maria Vigano, formerly the Vatican’s ambassador to the US, attacks a shadowy “global elite”, that is plotting a “Great Reset” intended to undermine “God and humanity”.
This same group, the archbishop argued, is also responsible for the lockdowns that have restricted movement and freedom around the globe, eliciting protests in many European capitals.

gorden
gorden
Nov 3, 2020 5:41 PM

it mean nothing to me ohhhhh vienna…

temember kids the levels
terror musselamic is 4 of 5
5 being duck and cover

covids is 3 transitioning into 4
5 being mr heart attack you died of covids

the military game changer the serco g4s public military private military partnerships procedure is called a lateral flow test

sucking and squirting laying the foundations for the real crowning satanick slaughter.

vaccinations had a name change

only one lateral flow lolipop each children
game on

Kalen
Kalen
Nov 3, 2020 5:08 PM

The individual loses his substance by voluntarily bowing to an overpowering and distant oligarchy, while simultaneously participating” in sham democracy.”

C. Wright Mills,”The Power Elite” (1956)

On the US electoral farce:

Many proposals to fix or heal fundamental problems of this abhorrent US regime seems to be as farcical as political farce they are fighting against and actually are contradictory to their only true objectives possible namely to ultimately and completely overthrow this illegitimate regime by whatever means available, as an act of self-defense, since otherwise it will be reborn, reincarnated in another ugly monster designed purposefully to destroy our humanity, as history shows.

What needs to be done?

For starters, based on historic evidences, we should reject this illusion of “electoral” system as being any kind of path or conduit to democracy or any democratic changes. We must open our eyes to the fact that an act of voting in the current helplessly tainted and rigged political/electoral system is nothing but morally corrupting tool that extorts from us an approval for the meaningless political puppets of the calcified, the repugnant, murderous US regime, in a surrealistic act of utter futility aimed just to break us down, to break our sense of human dignity, our human spirit, our individual will and self- determination since no true choice is ever being offered to us nor ever will.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 3, 2020 5:07 PM

Here in Brazil, the MSM outlets have primed people to expect no clear result today, not until ‘all the votes have been counted’, to use Hillary’s (or any top Democrat’s) words. Only victory of undeniably landslide proportions will make Dems concede the election, or prevent them denying Trump’s legitimacy. In other words, the US political left will again be proving how they refuse majority rule by non-leftist AKA ‘deplorable’ or inferior Americans. No way will they allow their globalist plans for power and control over us all be thwarted again, or accept any president who is not the puppet of DC elites and corporate America. The great unknown is to what violent extremes they will go to over the coming weeks in order to prevent power to the people to choose who leads the nation. Another question concerns OG posters’ reaction to the likely uprising should Trump prevail. Will they be rooting for the survival of peaceful western democracy as a way for plebs to choose leaders and limit power? Or will they support violent revolution to overthrow the (US) system? Fans of the second option should note that it will entail permanent rule by technocrats and/or dictators, will have to be enforced by a massively oppressive police state to rival or surpass communist China’s, and will mean the end of freedom and human rights for any dissenter. These critics might be rednecks, leftists, Christians, Muslims, gays, straights, blacks or whites etc, but all will be enemies of the state, and all will be persecuted.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 3, 2020 5:03 PM

Anyone want to go into business? It’s basically a mallet which hammers a crooked beat on the floor. You place it above your neighbours. There is a special fixing for walls.

A plate protects the wall or floor from damage but transmits a frantic, random thud. Enclosed in a box you can’t hear it. But they can.

The professional version interfaces with your own music system, with a noise-cancelling algorithm that ensures you will never hear the reflected hell that with your best respects “goes out” to you neighbour.

I plan to sell it with a compressed air siren so you can also greet them in the morning as they rev up the car.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 3, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

If you could make a ceiling mounted version for transmitting to neighbours upstairs, you could get rich.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 3, 2020 4:18 PM

Having made more than my share of blunders, I recognize the Democratic Party and its supporters as a dishonest and failed marriage beyond any hope.

It has reached that phase where years of affairs and cheating have given way to chronic dishonesty and disrespect, contempt and enmity.

Like a marriage, the platform has been a sham for years. The party has sworn its loyalty in secret to interests totally alien to those to whom it once pledged its troth. The candidate is a Pandar. In secret, the party moves in elevated circles, keeping an eye on the door lest former friends and gossips spot it in a richer embrace and report back to the distraught, dispossessed and abandoned.

The divorce drags painfully though it is unavoidable. The party abuses what trust remains to loot the joint bank accounts and make off with the assets. It will leave its former allies broke and adrift.

I was once its lover.

ame
ame
Nov 3, 2020 5:11 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

call out bullshit
I dont believe you you stink of GOP
So you joined another cult called the GOP aka conservatives party with ti freedoms loving values and now have a maga t shirt and post Conservative political; owned video 95% of Your video posts are that, endorsers of the GOP
Just saying MC you do post mainly suck GOP video contents creators i would go as far to call them establishment whores which they are.
a 19 year old without etymology or linguists without even the occult aspect smashed the internet apart to show 95 + % of all this let right mainly conservative deep state crap online especially trump shit is CIA look at Q it disrespectful to psy op’s to call Q a psyop it more aimed at the dumbest of milkshakes save the children when uSA has the biggest vaccine programme and ti just about to get bigger

its 2020 darling get the smelling salt out wake up they THE aristocrat arent your friends NO one coming to save you you can’t vote out of this its is what got you in this mess.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 3, 2020 5:15 PM
Reply to  ame

Democrats are now the party of CIA. So your concern is legit.
As for me, I’m well outside the two-party paradigm now.

ame
ame
Nov 3, 2020 5:52 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

your a super writer 160 words pm type that was poor response aka it the Democrats

i am not a expert but isnt U>K and usa sucking GOP (Conservative) real hard at the moment.

I dont need to be defended or a defense as dont vote and you may of guess it or not into thee arts.i done my part i explained the ballot box in how it works
every lock down announcement has been astrology aligned this is the basics

we can say its all CIA it not (Mi4 they deal with magic )aka establishment aristocrat  then the priestclass thats a tiny bit deeper. if you talking Biden Orion hunter mercury orange trump that not what you means you actually mean it all Democrats in a literal sense.!!

How else does it get you to vote when you in lcokdown 2 metre part wearing masks
chanting freedom !!!!

all over the world same script left or right the same lockdown measures all in unison virtually same draconian laws repackaged as safety and health

all good MC not attacking just observing

i responded in my bets handwriting

regards

ame
ame
Nov 3, 2020 6:41 PM
Reply to  ame

19 year old was you tuber Matthew north

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 3, 2020 5:18 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The extreme hate, prejudice, elitism, hypocrisy, hysteria and denial routinely displayed by US Democrats and their many extremely rich but woke friends and funders among elite, corporate and celebrity America, ever since Trump the anti-politician announced his bid for the presidency, proved to me conclusively who the frauds are, and what ideology most threatens our mostly peaceful culture and way of life.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Nov 3, 2020 6:58 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Partisanship is your slavery ship

Ort
Ort
Nov 4, 2020 8:53 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

They stayed together all those years for the sake of the children!

-CO
-CO
Nov 3, 2020 4:17 PM

Hi Everyone

The theory of pathogenic viruses such as SARS-COV-2 is full of crap like those who are trying to uphold it. Why?

The virus and Covid-19 signs and symptoms are abstract fictitious concepts constructed in and by virology in order to explain an alleged ‘contagious’ pandemic disease. The manner in which thesecond concepts are deployed has a theoretical basis in philosophy called essentialism which is not scientific. Essentialism is also a fallacy that involves an attempt to explain complex differences in psthophsiologicsl phenomena (Covid-19 signs and symptoms) almost exclusively in terms of the alleged SARS-COV-2 virus.

Virologists also tend to treat their abstract concepts and computer models ‘as if’ they can produce certain concrete physical effects. Here, the alleged SARS-COV-2 virus that has never been isolated and been proven to physically exist, is nevertheless thought to be the only real concrete cause of Covid -19 signs and symptoms – which is also a causal reductionist FALLACY.

How come? It is because the whole game is rigged from the outset. The order of concepts is transposed onto the natural order of being and the alleged SARS-COV-2 virus is then treated as the essence (the cause) that is thought to be immanent in all the phenomenal forms of its expression (it’s effects) namely, in each and every sign and symptom constitutive of Covid -19!

Here, ALL NON -VIRAL CAUSES CANNOT APPEAR they are simply excluded or ignored – they cannot be admitted because interacting and interfering causes would threaten to derail or shatter the whole bogus conception of the virus- host cell replication cycle and game over!

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 3:53 PM

Welsh lockdown – Woman, 27 chooses suicide after mental health consultation cancelled

https://twitter.com/WalesOnline/status/1323638109729394688?s=20

Carol
Carol
Nov 4, 2020 2:14 PM
Reply to  Jay

So, so sorry. All these deaths are part of the war against us, the people. As in other wars, there will be a lot of death. The ones who are strong are more likely to survive this ultimate test.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 3, 2020 2:49 PM

How does Joe Biden’s team keep giving speeches to empty car parks — and have a 15-point lead?

I say team, because Biden rarely turns up to his own rallies.

Barack Obama is the stand-in but even he can’t draw them like he used too — instead he looks like Lightning McQueen down on his luck.

Me confused.

https://youtu.be/d_IoiB0Offs?t=928

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Nov 3, 2020 7:14 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

@Moneycircus: I believe the proper response is WTF…!

Video imagery by SCTV, audio by Firesign Theater. BHO’s faux-Black diction sounds like a White guy delivering one-liners in a Minstrel show. But those non-diegetic horns….!

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Nov 3, 2020 7:16 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

@Moneycircus: I believe the proper response is WTF…!

Video imagery by SCTV, audio by Firesign Theater. BHO’s faux-Black diction sounds like a White guy delivering one-liners in a Minstrel show. But those non-diegetic horns….!

gorden
gorden
Nov 3, 2020 2:35 PM

the flu influenza is dead
long live the covid from 19 into infinity and beyond
well at least to saturn
if you get my rourkes drift

serco g4s are ex army navy airfarce ex copper plod prison warder screw ex special faeces.

so why not help now coppers and now army cracking the liverpool problem.
we cracked open belfast gangs counter gangs and pseudo sir frank kitson style so why not burst the scouser scab flatten them and the curve.

grannies of liverpool comply love your army love your public private partnerships serco g4s

do your bit and take the nasal vaccine shot sorry take the benign swab test

this is not low level operations or martial law it’s purest demonocracy sorry james obrien zio democracy
init

elderly of britain do your bit

die already

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 2:34 PM

John Sessions has just died. Presently not from Covid. But give it time.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 3, 2020 3:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Very sad news. Stella Street never fails to crack me up. With John as Joe Pesci, Keith Richards, Mrs Huggett, etc., etc…

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 6:54 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

He did a good John Hurt too if I remember correctly. Also – astonishingly – a convincing Arthur Lowe in that Dad’s Army biopic.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Nov 3, 2020 3:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

A sad loss. Heart attack according to Wikipedia. 20-30 years ago it might have been reported as AIDS. I guess we won’t know what gets put on the death certificate.

Geoff
Geoff
Nov 3, 2020 2:26 PM

Take a look at this nonsense , you won’t believe it :https://youtu.be/L5Er2ESrYJI

Geoff
Geoff
Nov 3, 2020 2:27 PM
Reply to  Geoff

And this : https://youtu.be/X6nMGshJVVo the police are totally out of control

Researcher
Researcher
Nov 3, 2020 2:25 PM

They need to enact martial law after the election, so Trump will probably win the electoral college, but lose the popular vote. The poll numbers are fake so they are always unreliable.

Florida and Texas will go to Trump, Wisconsin looks like it could be the swing state that hangs in the balance until all the votes are counted.

Whatever the outcome, it will be contested and the main stream media will claim that Trump was helped by far right groups collaborating with Iran or Russia.

Expect polling bedlam. Possible false flag attacks. Postal vote and ballot box interference. Philadelphia will be the scene of protests or violence. All of this will be media and security state driven.

The bankers select who wins, and black box voting is known to have software that ensures any desired outcome, 51-49.

The election results will drag on for a while to generate anger and resentment within the two voting blocs while the 5g kill grid is tested and readied. There’s no difference between the two parties.

The binary opposition is the false construct created to give an illusion of choice within an illegitimate system of debt slavery and criminality by all governments, everywhere.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Nov 3, 2020 2:39 PM
Reply to  Researcher
Mr Y
Mr Y
Nov 3, 2020 2:19 PM

Guardian: “For most of the last 30 years, since the fall of the Soviet Union, democracy promotion has been a mainstay of American foreign policy […] the US plays a central role in spreading democratic government around the world.”

I’m speechless …

Andy
Andy
Nov 3, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

And they would have committed no war crimes while doing so if not for that pesky Assange.

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 2:03 PM

It’s impossible to justify this brutality. “WEF occupied Italy” – a boyfriend protects his pregnant girlfriend against police violence:

https://twitter.com/MMaccruiskeen/status/1323591335069294592?s=20

Ort
Ort
Nov 4, 2020 8:48 PM
Reply to  Jay

This horrific incident brings to mind a passage from Joseph Heller’s prescient masterpiece Catch-22 (1961); it’s not the first time I’ve quoted it this year:
_________________________________________________

Yossarian… passed them by for an altercation on the next block between a civilian Italian with books and a slew of civilian policemen with armlocks and clubs. The screaming, struggling civilian was a dark man with a face white as flour from fear. His eyes were pulsating in hectic desperation, flapping like bat’s wings, as the many tall policemen seized him by the arms and legs and lifted him up. His books were spilled on the ground. ‘Help!’ he shrieked shrilly in a voice strangling in its own emotion, as the policemen carried him to the open doors in the rear of the ambulance and threw him inside. ‘Police! Help! Police!’ The doors were shut and bolted, and the ambulance raced away. There was a humorless irony in the ludicrous panic of the man screaming for help to the police while policemen were all around him. Yossarian smiled wryly at the futile and ridiculous cry for aid, then saw with a start that the words were ambiguous, realized with alarm that they were not, perhaps, intended as a call for police but as a heroic warning from the grave by a doomed friend to everyone who was not a policeman with a club and a gun and a mob of other policemen with clubs and guns to back him up. ‘Help! Police!’ the man had cried, and he could have been shouting of danger.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Nov 3, 2020 1:37 PM

Of course the Guardian backs Biden. The Guardian LOVES war criminals. The Guardian has backed illegal wars and corporate criminality since inception. Just ask their fine friends in Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the former US… Yeah, Biden. Gooooooo Joe!!!!!

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 1:41 PM

Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.

Paul
Paul
Nov 3, 2020 11:19 PM

The Guardian is fake news.

Howard
Howard
Nov 3, 2020 1:26 PM

There is only one issue: the fecking lockdown madness. Those of use who will be voting for Mr Trump (if we do vote at all) will not necessarily be voting FOR a particular president but AGAINST insanity. Trump is perceived as Anti-lockdown; Biden as Pro-lockdown – period, end of discussion.

For all I know, the lockdown may get worse if Trump is re-elected. This is irrelevant. The only thing on earth that does matter is registering a protest against the madness. And that is precisely what I will be doing.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 1:55 PM
Reply to  Howard

Voting is not a protest it is a form of acquiescence to the status quo . I agree with you about Trump and Biden’s positions on the covid panic. Either way there will be blood

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Nov 3, 2020 5:13 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

The blood may be real but the the “chaos” will be manufactured.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 5:28 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

By definition Chaos can not be manufactured , it can be experienced but is rarely if ever understood when experienced , and neither can it be sustained by humans whose intellects and emotions insist on seeing order and stability in slavery.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Nov 3, 2020 7:47 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Did you not notice the quotation marks? Whitney Webb has been doing research (interviewed on The Last American Vagabond) on the destabilization of this election that been planned in detail since at least January of 2020.

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/09/investigative-reports/bipartisan-washington-insiders-reveal-their-plan-for-chaos-if-trump-wins-the-election/

Stregs
Stregs
Nov 7, 2020 3:27 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

ordinarily i would agree that it cannot be ‘manufactured’ but this is not an ordinary time in history, and if the goon squads on this zoom call can actually pull off their plans manufactured chaos is exactly the result

https://newtube.app/user/Fragalicious/YPMmgeZ

kevin
kevin
Nov 3, 2020 3:15 PM
Reply to  Howard

This is right. If I was American I would be voting for Trump today as a protest vote against lockdown. I could not imagine voting for Trump, or any other major party candidate, under any other circumstances. The Covid insanity will continue with Trump, but with Biden it’s certain to escalate. It’s a matter of degrees.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 12:22 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54785358

First, note the headline:

“Covid: Deaths 10% higher than normal as virus deaths rise”

This is clearly differentiating between “deaths” and “virus deaths”. And yet the first two words are separated by a colon which may easily be overlooked so that “Covid: Deaths 10% higher than normal” could easily be read as “Covid Deaths 10% higher than normal”.

Now the article:

“The number of people dying in the UK is more than 10% above normal levels – with almost all of the excess linked to Covid, official figures show.”

“Linked to Covid”? In what way?

“There were 12,292 deaths in the week ending 23 October – 1,100 where Covid was mentioned on the death certificate, national statisticians reported.”

Covid was “mentioned on the death certificate”? Surely there must be an increasing number of people who are becoming suspicious of such evasive phrasing?

It goes on (emphases and bracketed sections from myself):

“It brings the total number of deaths that have been registered this year and linked to Covid to over 60,000.

That (i.e. the vaguely labelled Covid linked deaths) is out of nearly 430,000 deaths across society in 2020.

The figure (again – the vaguely labelled Covid linked deaths) is higher than the government data which shows nearly 47,000 people have died with Covid.

But the government figure only counts those who have died within 28 days of a positive test, whereas the national statisticians’ records are drawn from death certificates filled in by doctors. (But which still bear that vague “linked” label.)

These national statistics, drawn from Office for National Statistics and its counterparts in Northern Ireland and Scotland, show the number of deaths linked to Covid are doubling every fortnight.”

So what exactly is the nature of this “link”? Perhaps it’s an indirect one i.e. perhaps those deaths are caused by the lockdown?

Simon Bradbury
Simon Bradbury
Nov 3, 2020 12:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Maybe just substitute the words “nose picking” for COVID and then it all makes sense.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 3, 2020 12:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The evening news doesn’t seem too keen to tell us about the suicide rate and the deaths of people who’ve missed medical treatment (or those whose conditions have gone undiagnosed).

Still, let’s applaud those heroes in the NHS…

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 2:08 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Today 45 to 50 million of us will die globally , the vast majority not from covid . Breakdowns of those stats are still readily available on the Internet.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 3:23 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

make that 45 to 50 thousand.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 2:02 PM
Reply to  George Mc

As these inaccurate and unnecessary “covid tests proliferate” eventually everyone will test positive then what ? Herd immunity has already kicked in , Only a very few people are dying from this mild flu , despite the fudged figures , but the propaganda and resulting oppression of the masses continues to ratchet up?

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 2:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Flu and pneumonia have been classed as ‘Covid’. Plus the 28 day test rule malarkey.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 11:13 AM

Does anyone have a clue what this means?:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/03/pers-n03.html

Surging figures of Covid …cases? Someone in my work yesterday said that she heard of another person who found out he had Covid and didn’t even know!

Meanwhile…

What compelled the adoption of lockdowns in Europe was the intervention of the working class. In March, a wave of wildcat strikes demanding a shelter-at-home policy in auto, steel, and engineering plants across Italy, initially the worst-hit country, spread to Spain, France, Britain and beyond.

I don’t recall this happening in the UK. Did the public “heroically” strike in favour of lockdown?

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 11:49 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Perhaps Phil Greaves has the answer. From his Twitter feeds (and pay attention to no. 2 in each list):

“Two easily refuted lies/misconceptions underpin the ‘left’ support for lockdown.

1) That there is a deadly plague and regimes worldwide are desperate to stop it.

2) That lockdowns & all other ‘covid’ despotism has been imposed ‘reluctantly’ &/or ‘incompetently’ as last resort.

Both of these lies are laughable as

1) there is no Plague, & billionaire regimes do not care about workers general health, in fact they want most of us dead. And

2) lockdown despotism was planned in-advance and is obviously intended to increase the ruling-classes power & wealth.”

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Nov 3, 2020 5:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The WSWS has no place to go other than to hysterically amplify the MSM, who, evidently, isn’t hysterical enough when it comes Covid.


George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 6:51 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

It’s my view that the whole mainstream Left has been the “secret weapon” in the Covid ploy. They have been playing the role of dissent nuetralizer for most of the past half century but now they have been unleashed to play their true role of managing the herd into cheerleading the reset.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Nov 3, 2020 8:10 PM
Reply to  George Mc

That is a useful formulation.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Nov 4, 2020 3:29 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“mainstream Left”

Still the divisive terminology, meant to have the slaves at each others throats instead of battling CORPORATE FASCISM.

Also the word “mainstream” attempts to normalize or make acceptable the oppression and exploitation of the CORPORATE FASCISTS. It certainly is not!

Paul
Paul
Nov 3, 2020 11:23 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Greaves is spot on

ame
ame
Nov 3, 2020 12:11 PM
Reply to  George Mc

NO

richard
richard
Nov 3, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  ame

?
: apparently this input is too short, but if it was good enuf for Victor Hugo it’s good enuf for me.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 12:49 PM
Reply to  richard

It’s a fair enough answer. I read the WSWS now and I don’t have a fucking clue what they are talking about. They seem to inhabit a different world. Perhaps someone should tell them that “The Walking Dead” is NOT REAL!

Someone
Someone
Nov 3, 2020 1:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Why do you do this to yourself? You gotta learn to love yourself.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 2:28 PM
Reply to  Someone

Well I’ve always been a masochist. So I hang around these Left sites to see how low they can sink. Although – there’s also a fascinating psychological angle i.e. to see how they can keep piling on the revolutionary rhetoric while cheering on the police state and continual expansion of prole rectums.

Thom
Thom
Nov 3, 2020 1:14 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Remember how the Guardian, the BBC and others sold the Iraq War, Libya, Syria etc as being ‘for humanitarian reasons’? It’s the same tactic here, with the intelligence agencies and crony corporations hiding behind ‘public health and making ‘the left’ (always ill-defined) take the blame/credit via ‘controlled opposition’ publications. That’s also why characters like Farage and ‘Tory MPs’ are being lined up to conspicuously oppose all this,

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 3, 2020 2:32 PM
Reply to  Thom

That’s also why characters like Farage and ‘Tory MPs’ are being lined up to conspicuously oppose all this,

And to oppose it for the wrong reasons i.e. infringement on liberties rather than the fact the lockdown itself is killing people. I wouldn’t be at all surprise if the next move will be Tory MPs compaining about the devastation done to the fox hunting tradition. That’ll have the Left dupes jumping to the puppet strings of the designated conflict theatre.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 3, 2020 11:13 AM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com
 
Rock Star At 74, Trump TRUMPS

Savorywill
Savorywill
Nov 3, 2020 11:12 AM

Best thing about Trump is that one of his main themes is that America has to stop waging its ‘endless wars’. This is a very refreshing message. Biden was on board for all of America’s wars since the 90’s, voted for every one, cheered on the senseless destruction of Libya. I am hoping, on this one point alone, let alone Trump’s emphasis on bringing back jobs to American workers, that he gets re-elected.

Just look at the differences between his rallies, where thousands attend, actually chanting ‘we love you’ (never seen that before!) and Biden’s, even with Obama on hand, just attracting a few hundred people, all sitting in their cars, occasionally honking their horns in approval. Very different levels of enthusiasm, that is clear.

CyndeeJoan
CyndeeJoan
Nov 3, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  Savorywill

Yes I watched Trump’s rallies last night in Kenosha and and Grand Rapids (at midnight) thousands of supporters standing outside in the cold chanting and cheering.

The enthusiasm gap is miles wide.

Geoff
Geoff
Nov 3, 2020 2:18 PM
Reply to  Savorywill

Yes credit to fart. he does what he says he will do like draining the swamp

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 11:00 AM

From late July:
”Lockdown may cost 200,000 lives, government report showsResearch shines a light on the reasons why the Government has been keen to lift lockdown, in spite of experts claiming it happened too soon”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/19/lockdown-may-cost-200k-lives-government-report-shows/

200,000 people could die because of delays in healthcare and economic effects of coronavirus lockdown, report warns

  • The UK has so far suffered 45,318 Covid-19 deaths since lockdown was imposed 
  • Report says that more than 200,000 people could die due to healthcare delays
  • Experts estimate up to 12,000 more could die in the next year due to recession

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8539541/200-000-people-die-delays-healthcare-report-warns.html

We can perhaps double the figures now.

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 11:20 AM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Those deaths are a bonus for the Government. The Great Reset is about eradicating surplus population and tech enslaving the rest.

richard
richard
Nov 3, 2020 12:31 PM
Reply to  Jay

well said!

TFS
TFS
Nov 3, 2020 10:50 AM

Here we are again.

  1. The Republicans are fronting an idiot and shouting at the Democrats
  2. The Democrats are fronting an idiot and shouting at the Republicans

When will the Dem/Reps voters realise they have more in common and should be voting for an untainted/new party? No one else is gonna drain the swamp.

They’ve been played……

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 10:48 AM

Vienna: the ‘assailant’ was killed by police, so there will be no trial, but another one escaped to allow police to terrorise the population with searches, street closures, and military on the streets. They always follow the same pattern. Obvious false flag.

Mark
Mark
Nov 3, 2020 10:36 AM

Please, please run a spell check before posting. It makes the good articles lose some credibility.

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 10:24 AM

Testing for a disease you have no symptoms for, is as mad as locking down the well to protect them from a virus which is will not harm them at all.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Nov 3, 2020 3:47 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

They believe (or rather, they want us to believe), that the symptom-less can still be “spreaders”, which even some mainstream medical authorities don’t seem to believe.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 3, 2020 10:17 AM

The USA is a danger to itself and others. Psychotic. Never mind building a wall to keep Mexicans out; it’s a wall to keep the rest of the world safe from the Yanks that’s needed.

That said, I’m really looking forward to the meltdown at Guardian Towers in the event of a second term for Trump. Their sad little faces will be a sight to behold! ;o)

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 10:06 AM

Boris Johnson is handing Amazon, 30-50 % of the UK’s entire retail sector, with the proportional destruction of British retail, we can only speculate at the rewards he and his gang will receive. It makes George Osbourne’s fleecing of 1 billion from the post office look like child’s play.

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 9:35 AM

”Mass Covid testing plan to offer route out of lockdown”

”Pilot scheme to provide tests to cities begins in Liverpool and will be rolled out across country if successful, Boris Johnson says”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/02/mass-covid-testing-plan-offer-route-lockdown/

Read the comments, they are really good.

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 11:29 AM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

I sometimes wonder if I’m dreaming all of this. Have I been put in an induced coma?

Fraudulently used tests that diagnose a healthy person sick. A virus so deadly that staying at home is the cure. An unquestioning, unthinking population terrified of ‘cases’ but unable to ask the basic question – ‘what is a case?’. The inhumanity in hospitals and care homes. The shocking spectacle of psycho police beating up peaceful protestors. Children killing themselves.

Someone on Twitter said: ‘anyone calling for lockdowns is a murderer’. I have to agree.

richard
richard
Nov 3, 2020 12:43 PM
Reply to  Jay

right on bro’

Geoff
Geoff
Nov 3, 2020 2:23 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Unfortunately I can’t read the comments being as I’m banned they don’t show up same in the Independent, cant register with the Guardian !

ame
ame
Nov 3, 2020 9:33 AM

army on streets u>K
Liverpool’s Public Health boss talks mass COVID testing for the city | The Guide Liverpool listen to how the testis done



ame
ame
Nov 3, 2020 9:33 AM
Reply to  ame

Lateral flow test = nose swab is nasal vaccine in another name 

Julia
Julia
Nov 3, 2020 9:58 AM
Reply to  ame

What is thoroughly confusing to me about this Liverpudlian public health official’s words is a) why he keeps saying that life won’t go back to normal ‘for a long time’ and b) why he almost seems happy about that….Does he actually believe this crap? I am so confused.

Thom
Thom
Nov 3, 2020 10:19 AM
Reply to  Julia

I think that’s the idea – to get people confused. I reckon that using the ropey ‘data’ at the Johnson press conference was a deliberate ploy. They want people to keep arguing about public health issues so they don’t have time to spot the financial heist under their noses.

richard
richard
Nov 3, 2020 1:10 PM
Reply to  Thom

Or,… they keep going on about the “money” and try to divert attention from the overall “Great Reset” plan…
When all you’ve got is your basic subsistence gov. handout what will it matter to you if fred bloggs has one billion or two?

Someone
Someone
Nov 3, 2020 2:01 PM
Reply to  Thom

And the biotechno surveillance cage being built around them.

-CO
-CO
Nov 3, 2020 10:34 AM
Reply to  Julia

Hi Julia,
The man is happy because he’s paid to be happy for the crap he is spouting. If asked for proof that the virus exists and the name of the scientists who isolated it along with the method utilised and the when and the whereabouts it was actually achieved he would be hiding under his desk!

No virus as gold standard to calibrate tests means bogus test results. The virus has never been proven to physically exist to this day and any claim that it does needs to be challenged in a court of law by those in the know. Otherwise the situation will continue to go from bad to worse as it is determined by factors other than an alleged virus.

richard
richard
Nov 3, 2020 1:13 PM
Reply to  -CO

-co rrect !

-CO
-CO
Nov 3, 2020 6:27 PM
Reply to  richard

Thanks Richard glad somebody cares!

Paul
Paul
Nov 3, 2020 11:53 PM
Reply to  -CO

I respect that Simon Dolan is fighting the lockdowns in England. But he won’t win as he’s challenging the response to the virus which the judge will favour the government because a) he’s paid by the state and b) the judge will use the death totals and ‘case’ numbers to back the government.

If Dolan was to challenge the existence of the virus and the disease the government would be running scared.

-CO
-CO
Nov 4, 2020 11:11 AM
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul I agree 👍
In order to win the case S.Dolan would have to contact Dr Stefan Lanka in Germany who won his case against Dr Bardens who claimed that the measles virus existed and was the cause of measles.
Dr. Lanka has access to expert witness -es in the field that could be brought in to help win the case. Unfortunately funds would be required to do that which would be expensive. So if there are any millionaires out there willing to help you know what to do.

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 11:33 AM
Reply to  Julia

Half the world is full of fascists it seems. Are the people cheering this tyranny on being swabbed, tested and quarantined themselves? Answer – no.

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Nov 3, 2020 12:22 PM
Reply to  Jay

“Unless a man has talents to make something of himself, freedom is an irksome burden. Of what avail is freedom to choose if the self be ineffectual? We join a mass movement to escape individual responsibility, or, in the words of the ardent young Nazi, “to be free from freedom.” It was not sheer hypocrisy when the rank-and-file Nazis declared themselves not guilty of all the enormities they had committed. They considered themselves cheated and maligned when made to shoulder responsibility for obeying orders. Had they not joined the Nazi movement in order to be free from responsibility?”

– Eric Hoffer

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 1:32 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

But there is freedom to be ineffectual. Basic, human freedom.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Nov 3, 2020 12:38 PM
Reply to  Julia

“Allowing” people to go to work
“Allowing” people to go to school
“Allowing” people to go to the store
“Allowing” people to take a walk
“Allowing” people to take a breathe
“Allowing” people to take a shit

We have the power to allow you to go back to a normal that will never return because of a virus that’s going to kill you if you don’t follow our explicit instructions on how to go back to normal..

talk about an insanity inducing shell game

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 9:13 AM

You can claim Trump promises ‘freedom and liberty’ from the Covid restrictions, but he didn’t provide it as president, he allowed the worst of tyranny to happen with no real opposition.

The worst lockdowns happened on his watch and he only promised to stop it in election rallies, if he can promise to stop it in rallies, then why couldn’t he stop it as president ?

At the end of the day he was just a liar.

richard
richard
Nov 3, 2020 1:21 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Worse, he said he will use the military to distribute the vaccine!!
Will that be at the point of a gun?
Seems tho that that won’t be necessary as without your covi-pass your life will be shut down – you may also be permanently quarantined (in a detention camp).
.
Trump has never kept a promise yet, so why should this time be any different.
Biden would be no better of course…

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 2:20 PM
Reply to  richard

Biden has promised to do worse in regards to covid?

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 1:41 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

It’s not that simple. States are self governing. South Dakota didn’t lockdown. Michigan Supreme Court overturned lockdown rules only to be overturned again. The Covid Cabal (WEF, IMF, Pharma, Gates??? etc.) who are instructing governments around the world to lockdown and destroy their economies are perhaps more powerful than Trump.

If Trump wins I’ll be relieved maybe, maybe not, considering Biden wants us all permanently muzzled, tracked and traced, but I’ve no illusions. If the conspiracy theories are true then most of us will be dead by 2030 from poverty or state violence.

Schmitz Katze
Schmitz Katze
Nov 3, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Trump is only human, not a FJK Doppelgänger.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

The Trump response has been moderate compared to England and Australia . Biden is promising draconian action . Most of the oppression so far was at the behest of state governments. The Americans fought a civil war over state rights which ended in an uneasy truce.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Nov 3, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Just the same as Starmer wanted more draconian action, in order to appear tough.

Remember Blair’s “Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime”. Blair (although a class A fake in almost every respect) did have “charisma”. It didn’t work on me, but it worked on enough people so that he could win elections.

Starmer has no personality, no charisma, and no principles, and he couldn’t win his way out of a paper bag. He hopes that being “tough on the virus” will help him win the next election. I doubt if he will even be around at the next election, and neither will Johnson. That’s if there will be a next election, which I doubt.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 4:59 PM

Mr Blair was simply an acolyte of Ms Thatcher as time has shown . The labour party had ceased to exist when Mr Blair announced his 3rd way strategy . The English version of Slick Willy Clinton’s pretense as a man of the people, just as surely as Ms Thatcher was a thrall to Reaganomics..Mr Starmer may be considered a classic English liberal by definition.

Paul
Paul
Nov 3, 2020 11:55 PM

Good points Mike.

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 9:08 AM

Seeing children of six years old being forced to wear masks is one of the most heartbreaking and cruel things I have seen in a very long time. I don’t know why it depresses me so much, but it does.

Jay
Jay
Nov 3, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Because it’s harmful – physically and emotionally and because it reminds us how unintelligent and compassionless much of the human race is. I have more respect for sewer rats than parents who muzzle their children.

Someone
Someone
Nov 3, 2020 2:09 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

The only thing more cruel is to see their PARENTS instructing them to muzzle up.

CyndeeJoan
CyndeeJoan
Nov 3, 2020 2:14 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Same. It is so dangerous to their development. Brains that age need full access to oxygen, more so than adult brains.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 2:21 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Think Germany in the 1930s ?

Ort
Ort
Nov 4, 2020 8:28 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

I do. That’s why I diagnosed the slavish believers in the Megadeath Virus of Doom Big Lie, aka scamdemic, as suffering from “Good Germless Syndrome”.

Howard
Howard
Nov 3, 2020 3:12 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Saturday morning I witnessed a mother and her two pre-school children waiting to cross the street. There were NO OTHER PEOPLE anywhere in sight along the sidewalk. Yet mother and children were all three tightly masked.

It’s over. Game over. Insanity has won out. “Normal?” “New Normal?” “Old Normal?” It doesn’t matter which variety of “Normal” they call it; it’s a terminal condition. Normality is a synonym for terminal.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 3, 2020 8:34 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Verbally abuse the child-muzzling parents at every opportunity!! Learn about your right to self defense in your country and DO SOMETHING

Thom
Thom
Nov 3, 2020 8:56 AM

I look at the Guardian homepage every day – I look but don’t click, a la Bill Clinton. Yesterday their only complaint about the new UK lockdown seemed to be “What took him so long?” Or was it “Please sir, can we have some more fascism?” – I almost forgot.
Still, a year ago, lest we forget, the same ‘newspaper’ was destroying Corbyn’s leadership so that Johnson could be installed ready for the not-so-great reset so I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised

Careful
Careful
Nov 3, 2020 6:45 AM

Rampant hypocrisy and lies are now the backbone of the Guardian.

Every Guardian article shown here proves beyond reasonable doubt that this is blatant interference in the US presidential election.

There must some action to force the Guardian to register as a foreign agent.
Secondly, shouldn’t all this hysteric lies manufacturing be investigated by some press authority?

richard
richard
Nov 3, 2020 1:29 PM
Reply to  Careful

Never mind that. Why aren’t the MPs climbing over the benches to get at Boris’ throat?
These buggers – how many is there 650 ? – are traitors, complicit in the destruction of the people they are paid to represent…

Schmitz Katze
Schmitz Katze
Nov 3, 2020 6:01 AM

Meanwhile in Vienna:
The killer virus curfew goes into effect on the third of November and
for the purpose of the ongoing manhunt the military has been deployed in the streets .
‘It looks more like an orchestrated operation’ – Fmr Austrian FM Kneissl to RT
„it first started with a temple, a synagogue in Vienna, which is well guarded. The district is well guarded.“
To RT German:
Referring to an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation in the security services, Kneissl spoke of 37 assassins.

Careful
Careful
Nov 3, 2020 6:53 AM
Reply to  Schmitz Katze

“orchestrated operation”

It is worth to find clarification, is it orchestration among the assailants in Vienna
.. or ..
orchestration between Covid lockdown orders ‘and’ deploying the army in the streets?

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 9:15 AM
Reply to  Schmitz Katze

They want to put the military on the strees, so they need a terror attack to justify it.

It is all happening in responce to what is happening in the USA today. if the coup happens it will radiate out to the USA’s vassal states.

Schmitz Katze
Schmitz Katze
Nov 3, 2020 2:02 PM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

Old Europe is pro Trump,
together we stand….
I´v already prayed my rosary.
It´s getting insane, the other day I´ve been assailed telling fellow Europeans in particular German feminists that with Trump there would be no Nizza,Vienna terrorist attacks and with four more years There Is Probably No Cov.
Two sayings come to mind; it goes something like it ain´t over til Schadenfreude will have it’s delightful turn.

Platov
Platov
Nov 3, 2020 5:36 AM

Being an unabashed member of the geriatric class, I can say with certainty that the level of political discourse here in the U.S. has declined precipitously over the past 60 years, especially since 1980. The discussions about political issues in my Social Studies class at an elite public High School in N.Y.C. in the early 60’s was at a much higher intellectual level than any of the Presidential debates I’ve seen since the Nixon-Kennedy debates of 1960. The powers that be have successfully lobotomized the vast majority of American voters, so that they squabble over trivial issues (“divide and conquer”), and consistently vote against their own interests. The globalists have been working hard to extend this strategy to Europe but are meeting with resistance, thankfully, with this particular site being a prominent member of the true “resistance.”

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Nov 3, 2020 12:39 PM
Reply to  Platov

“Being an unabashed member of the geriatric class, I can say with certainty that the level of political discourse here in the U.S. has declined precipitously over the past 60 years, especially since 1980”.

Curiously enough, Albert Jay Nock (among others) was saying something very similar a century ago! While the following passage is from a book published after his death in 1945, he was saying similar things in the 1910s.

“When our system remodeled its processes to suit the requirements of educational mass-production (speaking in industrial terms) our educators began to talk a great deal about the need for our being ‘men of our time’ and taking on only such studies as ‘fit us to take our place in the present world’ – such studies, in short, as directly bar on the business of becoming chemists, engineers, bond-salesmen, lawyers, horse-doctors, and so on. There was no direct relation superficially apparent between the type of study hitherto known as formative, and the actual practice of stock-jobbing, company-promoting, or horse-doctoring; therefore this type of study could and should be laid aside as a sheer waste of time and effort”.

  • Albert Jay Nock, “The Disadvantages of Being Educated And Other Essays”
Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Nov 3, 2020 5:19 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

Language and values evolve , devolve from generation to generation. Frighteningly obvious if one has children and grandchildren , raised and educated in public venues.

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Nov 3, 2020 7:27 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

A few of us (less than 5% anyway) are natural individualists, independent thinkers, members of the “awkward squad”. We are very unpopular in any regimented institution – schools, universities, armed forces, business.

Yet our way is the only safe way of the future. Human beings must learn to uncouple their thinking from feelings and instincts. All these things are valuable, in their own place. But it is hopeless to ignore or reject valid ideas just because they conjure up unpleasant or unpopular emotions.

Everyone needs to be educated to think calmly, logically, dispassionately, objectively. Only then will democracy be viable.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 3, 2020 8:39 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

This is exactly ehat has happened- people have been conditioned to be driven by base emotional reactions- they are in stuck in fight-or-flight mode permanently, like rabbits frozen by headlights.

TFS
TFS
Nov 3, 2020 5:18 AM

Do you think they are overstating the Polls, so if Biden loses they call pull a Russiagate or Votergate on the population?

I so wanted to see the members of the FBI/DOJ in the dock, but I guess AG Barr decided to run down the clock, hoping time would be his friend (maybe I’m wrong).

Anyways like a dose of athletes foot, Hillary’s gonna make an appearence, just how far into Bidens term?

Antonym
Antonym
Nov 3, 2020 5:09 AM

Bernard @ MoonOfAlabama suspects that weak Biden was nominated on purpose to step down after being elected – either on (mental) health or corruption charges – so that Harris becomes Potus and she can reel in HRC as powerful VP. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/hunter-bidens-story-matters-especially-if-joe-biden-wins.html#comments

No too outlandish for a theory…

Paul_too
Paul_too
Nov 3, 2020 8:34 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Far from an original theory though… That’s also what around half the global Internet population are saying…

paul
paul
Nov 3, 2020 5:06 AM

Another Fake/ Gay Op in Vienna?
6 simultaneous “terrorist attacks” with rifles – 1 or 2 fatalities?
About as effective as novichok.
Just in time for the Fake/ Gay US election.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 3, 2020 4:57 AM

worldchangebrief.webnode.com

Whistleblower: CIA Program Alters Election Results/
ICAN Wins Vaccine Trial Results Legal Battle/
Mountain Town Defiant: No Mask Mandate!/
Airlines Fight CDC Quarantines/
Top Military Draw Down/
Biden Faces His Dark Winter/
Gaga Jumps Trump Shark

The CIA Whistleblower voting fraud tech is worth repeating again and again
I hope if nothing else people share that. The people ARE more powerful than the CIA, despite their disgusting arrogance.

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 9:56 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Why is voter fraud news? Voting fraud to help whom? The corrupt criminal Corporate puppet warmongers OR to help the other corrupt, criminal, Corporate, puppet warmongers?

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 3, 2020 10:36 AM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

1) It is the CIA programmer involved in scam elections has stepped forward to reveal the method that is the news
2) Either way, even a cynical voter wants the vote he cast to be counted properly

Sue Wilkocks
Sue Wilkocks
Nov 3, 2020 11:04 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Did you not understand what I said? ………Who cares who wins or who you voted for, they are both the same deep-state puppets. It is a CIA meme that it matters. It does not matter at all.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 3, 2020 11:14 AM
Reply to  Sue Wilkocks

ok Granny Grumpus, have it your way.