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Reimagining the World: Agroecology vs Post-COVID Plunder

Colin Todhunter

Contingent on World Bank aid to be given to poorer countries in the wake of coronavirus lockdowns, agrifood conglomerates will aim to further expand their influence. These firms have been integral to the consolidation of a global food regime that has emerged in recent decades based on chemical- and proprietary-input-dependent agriculture which incurs massive externalised social, environmental and health costs.

Reliance on commodity monocropping for global markets, long supply chains and dependency on external inputs for cultivation make the food system vulnerable to shocks, whether resulting from public health scares, oil price spikes (the global food system is fossil-fuel dependent) or conflict and war. An increasing number of countries are recognising the need to respond by becoming more food self-sufficient, preferably by securing control over their own food and reducing supply chain lengths.

The various coronavirus lockdowns have disrupted many transport and production activities, exposing the weaknesses of the food system. If the current situation tells us anything, it is that structural solutions are needed to transform food production, not further strengthen the status quo.

Agroecology

During the Disappearing World Forum in 2013, author Arundhati Roy was asked by an audience member, what is the alternative to the mainstream development narrative?

She responded by saying:

You can ask the question of alternatives in two ways. One way is a genuine way and the other is a sort of aggressive way. And the genuine way would take into account that today we are where we are because there has been a series of decisions taken about everything; whether it’s about hybrid seeds, whether it’s about big dams. Whatever it’s about, every time there’s a decision that has been taken, there’s always been an alternative… There was an alternative to every way you chose to develop. When you have a system that’s been created with a layer – with thousands of decisions – and you want me now to tell you an alternative in one sentence, it isn’t possible.

In a world where the ‘good life’ is associated with GDP growth, endless consumption and increasing urbanisation, there is a price to be paid in terms of environmental destruction, devastating resource conflicts, population displacements, a destructive arrogance that sees humans apart from and above nature and the degradation of our most fundamental need – food and our ability to produce it.

The solution cannot be expressed in one sentence, but a vital – perhaps central – component of ‘the alternative’ involves prioritising an agrarian-centric development paradigm based on a wide-ranging shift to agroecology. The agroecological paradigm is not just about growing food; it involves reimagining our relationship with nature and with each other and the type of actions and activities that give meaning to life.

In 2014, UN special rapporteur Olivier De Schutter’s report concluded that by applying agroecological principles to democratically controlled agricultural systems we can help to put an end to food crises and poverty challenges. He argued that agroecological approaches could tackle food needs in critical regions and could double food production in 10 years.

The 2009 IAASTD peer-reviewed report, produced by 400 scientists and supported by 60 countries, recommended agroecology to maintain and increase the productivity of global agriculture. And the recent UN FAO High Level Panel of Experts concluded that agroecology provides greatly improved food security and nutritional, gender, environmental and yield benefits compared to industrial agriculture.

Agroecology is based on traditional knowledge and modern agricultural research, utilising elements of contemporary ecology, soil biology and the biological control of pests. This system employs sound ecological management by using on-farm solutions to manage pests and disease without the use of agrochemicals and corporate seeds. It outperforms the prevailing industrial food system in terms of diversity of food output, nutrition per acre, soil health, water table stability and climate resilience.

Academic Raj Patel outlines some of the basic practices of agroecology by saying that nitrogen-fixing beans are grown instead of using inorganic fertilizer, flowers are used to attract beneficial insects to manage pests and weeds are crowded out with more intensive planting. The result is a sophisticated polyculture: many crops are produced simultaneously, instead of just one.

Much has been written about agroecology, its successes and the challenges it faces, not least in the 2017 book Fertile Ground: Scaling agroecology from the ground up, published by Food First. Agroecology can offer concrete, practical solutions to many of the world’s problems. It challenges – and offers alternatives to – the prevailing moribund doctrinaire economics of a neoliberalism that drives a failing system of industrial agriculture.

By creating securely paid labour-intensive agricultural work in both richer and poorer countries, it can address the interrelated links between labour offshoring by rich countries and the removal of rural populations elsewhere who end up in sweat shops to carry out offshored jobs: the two-pronged process of neoliberal, globalised capitalism that has hollowed out the economies of the US and UK and which is displacing existing indigenous food production systems and undermining the rural infrastructure in places like India.

Agroecology is based on food sovereignty, which encompasses the right to healthy and culturally appropriate food and the right of people to define their own food and agriculture systems. ‘Culturally appropriate’ is a nod to the foods people have traditionally produced and eaten as well as the associated socially embedded practices which underpin community and a sense of communality. But it goes beyond that.

Modern food system

People have a deep microbiological connection to soils, food processing practices and fermentation processes which affect the gut microbiome – up to six pounds of bacteria, viruses and microbes akin to human soil. And as with actual soil, the microbiome can become degraded according to what we ingest (or fail to ingest). Many nerve endings from major organs are located in the gut and the microbiome effectively nourishes them. There is ongoing research taking place into how the microbiome is disrupted by the modern globalised food production/processing system and the chemical bombardment it is subjected to.

Capitalism colonises (and degrades) all aspects of life but is colonising the very essence of our being – even on a physiological level. With their agrochemicals and food additives, powerful companies are attacking this ‘soil’ and with it the human body. As soon as agri-food corporations undermined the capacity for eating locally grown, traditionally processed food, cultivated in healthy soils and began imposing long-line supply chains and food subjected to chemical-laden cultivation and processing activities, we not only lost our cultural connections to food production and the seasons, but we also lost our deep-rooted microbiological connection with our localities. Corporate chemicals and seeds and global food chains dominated by the likes of Monsanto (now Bayer), Nestle and Cargill took over.

Aside from affecting the functioning of major organs, neurotransmitters in the gut affect our moods and thinking. Alterations in the composition of the gut microbiome have been implicated in a wide range of neurological and psychiatric conditions, including autism, chronic pain, depression and Parkinson’s Disease. In addition, increasing levels of obesity are associated with low bacterial richness in the gut. Indeed, it has been noted that tribes not exposed to the modern food system have richer microbiomes.

To ensure genuine food security and good health, humanity must transition to a notion of food sovereignty based on optimal self-sufficiency, agroecological principles and local ownership and stewardship of common resources – land, water, soil, seeds, etc.

However, what we are seeing is a trend towards genetically engineered and biosynthetic lab-based food controlled by corporations. The billionaire class who are pushing this agenda think they can own nature and all humans and can control both. As part of an economic, cultural and social ‘great reset’, they seek to impose their cold dystopian vision that wants to eradicate thousands of years of culture, tradition and farming practices virtually overnight.

Consider that many of the ancient rituals and celebrations of our forebears were built around stories and myths that helped them come to terms with some of the most basic issues of existence, from death to rebirth and fertility. These culturally embedded beliefs and practices served to sanctify their practical relationship with nature and its role in sustaining human life.

As agriculture became key to human survival, the planting and harvesting of crops and other seasonal activities associated with food production were central to these customs. Freyfaxi marks the beginning of the harvest in Norse paganism, for example, while Lammas or Lughnasadh is the celebration of the first harvest/grain harvest in Paganism.

Humans celebrated nature and the life it gave birth to. Ancient beliefs and rituals were imbued with hope and renewal and people had a necessary and immediate relationship with the sun, seeds, animals, wind, fire, soil and rain and the changing seasons that nourished and brought life. In addition to our physiological connection, our cultural and social relationships with agrarian production and associated deities had a sound practical base.

We need look no further than India to appreciate the important relationship between culture, agriculture and ecology, not least the vital importance of the monsoon and seasonal planting and harvesting. Rural-based beliefs and rituals steeped in nature persist, even among urban Indians. These are bound to traditional knowledge systems where livelihoods, the seasons, food, cooking, processing, seed exchange, healthcare and the passing on of knowledge are all inter-related and form the essence of cultural diversity within India itself.

Although the industrial age resulted in a diminution of the connection between food and the natural environment as people moved to cities, traditional ‘food cultures’ – the practices, attitudes and beliefs surrounding the production, distribution and consumption of food – still thrive and highlight our ongoing connection to agriculture and nature.

If we go back to the 1950s, it is interesting to note Union Carbide’s corporate narrative based on a series of images that depicted the company as a ‘hand of god’ coming out of the sky to ‘solve’ some of the issues facing humanity. One of the most famous images is of the hand pouring the firm’s agrochemicals on Indian soils as if traditional farming practices were somehow ‘backward’.

Despite well-publicised claims to the contrary, this chemical-driven approach did not lead to higher food production according to the paper New Histories of the Green Revolution written by Prof Glenn Stone. However, it has had long-term devastating ecological, social and economic consequences as we saw in Vandana Shiva’s book ‘The Violence of the Green Revolution’ and Bhaskar Save’s now famous and highly insightful open letter to Indian officials.

In the book Food and Cultural Studies’ (Bob Ashley et al), we see how, some years ago, a Coca Cola TV ad campaign sold its product to an audience which associated modernity with a sugary drink and depicted ancient Aboriginal beliefs as harmful, ignorant and outdated. Coke and not rain became the giver of life to the parched. This type of ideology forms part of a wider strategy to discredit traditional cultures and portray them as being deficient and in need of assistance from ‘god-like’ corporations.

Post-COVID plunder

What we have seen in 2020 is an acceleration of such processes. In terms of food and agriculture, traditional farming in places like India will be under increasing pressure from the big-tech giants and agribusiness to open up to lab-grown food, GMOs, genetically engineered soil microbes, data harvesting tools and drones and other ‘disruptive’ technologies.

This vision includes farmerless farms being manned by driverless machines, monitored by drones and doused with chemicals to produce commodity crops from patented GM seeds for industrial ‘biomatter’ to be processed and constituted into something resembling food.

What will happen to the farmers?

Post-COVID, the World Bank talks about helping countries get back on track in return for structural reforms. Are tens of millions of smallholder farmers to be enticed from their land in return for individual debt relief and universal basic income? The displacement of these farmers and the subsequent destruction of rural communities and their cultures was something the Gates Foundation once called for and cynically termed “land mobility”.

Cut through the euphemisms and it is clear that Bill Gates – and the other incredibly rich individuals behind the great reset with their ‘white saviour’ mindset – is an old-fashioned colonialist who supports the time-honoured dispossessive strategies of imperialism, whether this involves mining, appropriating and commodifying farmer knowledge, accelerating the transfer of research and seeds to corporations or facilitating intellectual property piracy and seed monopolies created through IP laws and seed regulations.

In India – still an agrarian-based society – will the land of these already (prior to COVID) heavily indebted farmers then be handed over to the tech giants, the financial institutions and global agribusiness to churn out their high-tech industrial sludge?

With the link completely severed between food production, nature and culturally embedded beliefs that give meaning and expression to life, we will be left with the individual, isolated human who exists on lab-based food, who is reliant on income from the state and who is stripped of satisfying productive endeavour and genuine self-fulfilment.

Technocratic meddling has already destroyed or undermined cultural diversity, meaningful social connections and agrarian ecosystems that draw on centuries of traditional knowledge and are increasingly recognised as valid approaches to secure food security, as outlined for example in the 2017 article Food Security and Traditional Knowledge in India in the Journal of South Asian Studies.

Such a pity that prominent commentators like George Monbiot, who writes for the UK’s Guardian newspaper, seems fully on board with this ‘great reset’. In his 2020 article ‘Lab-grown food will soon destroy farming – and save the planet’, he sees farmerless farms and ‘fake’ food produced in giant industrial factories from microbes as a good thing.

But Vandana Shiva says:

The notion that high-tech ‘farm free’ lab food will save the planet is simply a continuation of the same mechanistic mindset which has brought us to where we are today – the idea that we are separate from and outside of nature… it is the basis of industrial agriculture which has destroyed the planet, farmers livelihoods and our health.

She adds:

Turning ‘water into food’ is an echo from the times of the second world war, when it was claimed that fossil-fuel-based chemical fertilisers would produce ‘Bread from Air’. Instead we have dead zones in the ocean, greenhouse gases – including nitrous oxide which is 300 times more damaging to the environment than CO2 – and desertified soils and land. We are part of nature, not separate from and outside of nature. Food is what connects us to the earth, its diverse beings, including the forests around us — through the trillions of microorganisms that are in our gut microbiome and which keep our bodies healthy, both inside and out.

As an environmentalist, Monbiot supports lab-based food because he only sees a distorted method of industrial farming; he is blind to agroecological methods which do not have the disastrous environmental consequences of chemical-dependent industrial agriculture. Monbiot’s ‘solution’ is to replace one model of corporate controlled farming with another, thereby robbing us of our connection to the land, to each other and making us wholly dependent on profiteering, unscrupulous interests that have no time for concepts like food democracy or food sovereignty.

Moreover, certain lab-engineered ‘food’ will require biomatter in the form of commodity crops. This in itself raises issues related to the colonisation of land in faraway countries and the implications for food security there. We may look no further to see the adverse health, social and environmental impacts of pesticide-dependent GMO seed monocropping in Argentina as it produces soy for the global market, not least for animal feed in Europe.

Instead of pandering to the needs of corporations, prominent commentators would do better by getting behind initiatives like the anti-imperialist Declaration of the International Forum for Agroecology, produced by Nyeleni in 2015. It argues for building grass-root local food systems that create new rural-urban links, based on genuine agroecological food production. It adds that agroecology requires local producers and communities to challenge and transform structures of power in society, not least by putting the control of seeds, biodiversity, land and territories, waters, knowledge, culture and the commons in the hands of those who feed the world.

It would mean that what ends up in our food and how it is grown is determined by the public good and not powerful private interests driven by patents, control and commercial gain and the compulsion to subjugate farmers, consumers and entire regions to their global supply chains and questionable products (whether unhealthy food or proprietary pesticides and seeds). For consumers, the public good includes more diverse diets leading to better nutrition and enhanced immunity when faced with any future pandemic.

Across the world, decentralised and local community-owned food systems based on short(er) food supply chains that can cope with future shocks are now needed more than ever. But there are major obstacles given the power of agrifood concerns whose business models are based on industrial farming and global chains with all the devastating consequences this entails.

Following the devastation caused by coronavirus-related lockdowns, World Bank Group President David Malpass has stated that poorer countries will be ‘helped’ to get back on their feet – on the condition that further neoliberal reforms and the undermining of public services are implemented and become further embedded.

He says that countries will need to implement structural reforms to help shorten the time to recovery and create confidence that the recovery can be strong:

For those countries that have excessive regulations, subsidies, licensing regimes, trade protection or litigiousness as obstacles, we will work with them to foster markets, choice and faster growth prospects during the recovery.

For agriculture, this means the further opening of markets to benefit the richer nations. What journalists like George Monbiot fail to acknowledge is that emerging technology in agriculture (AI drones, gene-edited crops, synthetic food, etc) is first and foremost an instrument of corporate power. Indeed, agriculture has for a long time been central to US foreign policy to boost the bottom line of its agribusiness interests and their control over the global food chain.

In the words of economics professor Michael Hudson:

It is by agriculture and control of the food supply that American diplomacy has been able to control most of the Third World. The World Bank’s geopolitical lending strategy has been to turn countries into food deficit areas by convincing them to grow cash crops – plantation export crops – not to feed themselves with their own food crops.

It is naïve to suggest that in the brave new world of farmerless farms and lab-based food, things would be different. In the face of economic crisis and stagnation at home, exacerbated by COVID lockdowns and restrictions, whether through new technologies or older Green Revolution methods, Western agricapital will seek to further entrench its position across the globe.

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Brockland A.T.
Brockland A.T.
Jan 24, 2021 10:43 AM

‘Agroecology’ is also associated with the out of control locust swarms in Africa; not only have wars led to far more undisturbed locust breeding grounds but African nations are not spraying pesticides.

Organic farming works, but not when its a globalist leftist buzzword like ‘agroecology’.

Covid-1984 is already poised to create global famine thru economic sabotage. We don’t need agroecology.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 20, 2021 11:39 PM

What about shock and awe? The covid cult have chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction weapons.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 21, 2021 12:26 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Or better said they are chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 21, 2021 6:13 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones
Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 21, 2021 2:27 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Miley Cyrus: Biological weapon of mass distraction…

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 20, 2021 3:51 PM

Excerpted from: 18 U.S. Code § 178 – Definitions | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

As used in this chapter—

(1) the term “biological agent” means any microorganism (including, but not limited to, bacteria, viruses, fungi, rickettsiae or protozoa), or infectious substance, or any naturally occurring, bioengineered or synthesized component of any such microorganism or infectious substance, capable of causing— 

(A) death, disease, or other biological malfunction in a human, an animal, a plant, or another living organism;
(B) deterioration of food, water, equipment, supplies, or material of any kind; or
(C) deleterious alteration of the environment;

(2) the term “toxin” means the toxic material or product of plants, animals, microorganisms (including, but not limited to, bacteria, viruses, fungi, rickettsiae or protozoa), or infectious substances, or a recombinant or synthesized molecule, whatever their origin and method of production, and includes— 

(A) any poisonous substance or biological product that may be engineered as a result of biotechnology produced by a living organism; or
(B) any poisonous isomer or biological product, homolog, or derivative of such a substance;

(3) the term “delivery system” means— 

(A) any apparatus, equipment, device, or means of delivery specifically designed to deliver or disseminate a biological agent, toxin, or vector; or
(B) any vector;

(4) the term “vector” means a living organism, or molecule, including a recombinant or synthesized molecule, capable of carrying a biological agent or toxin to a host; and

(5) the term “national of the United States” has the meaning prescribed in section 101(a) (22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a) (22)).”

Complete text:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/178

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 21, 2021 7:49 AM

Look up low-dose sarin.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 20, 2021 3:44 PM

People don’t understand the facts. > Their food and water supplies are intentionally poisoned, period. There are a number of LAWS specifying legal remedy.

Excerpted from: 18 U.S. Code § 175 – Prohibitions with respect to biological weapons | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

(a) In General.— 

Whoever knowingly develops, produces, stockpiles, transfers, acquires, retains, or possesses any biological agent, toxin, or delivery system for use as a weapon, or knowingly assists a foreign state or any organization to do so, or attempts, threatens, or conspires to do the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both. There is extraterritorial Federal jurisdiction over an offense under this section committed by or against a national of the United States.

(b) Additional Offense.— 

Whoever knowingly possesses any biological agent, toxin, or delivery system of a type or in a quantity that, under the circumstances, is not reasonably justified by a prophylactic, protective, bona fide research, or other peaceful purpose, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.
In this subsection, the terms “biological agent” and “toxin” do not encompass any biological agent or toxin that is in its naturally occurring environment, if the biological agent or toxin has not been cultivated, collected, or otherwise extracted from its natural source.

(c) Definition.— 

For purposes of this section, the term “for use as a weapon” includes the development, production, transfer, acquisition, retention, or possession of any biological agent, toxin, or delivery system for other than prophylactic, protective, bona fide research, or other peaceful purposes.”

Complete text: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/175

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 20, 2021 2:52 PM

Why has FAO issued a favourable statement on agroecology? As an alibi. The cat is out of the bag. Famers – and their poisoned custormers – in many places have had a rude awakening, and are already into it. There are even TV programmes on which semi-literate and illiterate farmers share their knowledge.

The stumbling block – the traitors who began this travesty and treason with the Green Revolution – are the government officials concerned. They must be Reset.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 20, 2021 12:13 PM

i’ve been posting on this for years. now the is really hitting the fan 🙁

Serf
Serf
Jan 20, 2021 11:52 AM

A message of care from a large multinational chain of shopping centres -one of the economic engines in our contemporary civilisation.

Right in the middle of this shopping centre, a large advertising light box is showing a series of poster ads in scrolling fashion. In this poster, next to the large shopping centre logo, text in large type reads:

“YOUR WELLBEING IS OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY”

How charitable, I thought. The government has abandoned most if not all the vulnerable groups/sections in the society. Good to see a ‘ Big Business’ is showing interest in people’s wellbeing. i came closer to see the rest of the message in the hope of seeing more details. Ooops, the display changes quickly, and in 2~3 seconds, a huge bottle of Vodka appeared on top of the message of care. The bottle of Vodka is so huge; must be bigger than the US Trump’s head as well as the Australian prime minister’s head put together. That’s how big that bottle of Vodka was!

In this heavy foot-traffic spot, children, teens, young men and women and older people have their brains registering in 3 seconds a message that pretends to show the highest level of interest in our wellbeing and at the same time, promoting Alcoholism.

NSSH – Not so subliminal hypocrisy!

Ben
Ben
Jan 20, 2021 11:33 AM

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The Greens and Extinction Rebellion exist to protect the interests of the billionaire class
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Lutz Barz
Lutz Barz
Jan 20, 2021 11:12 AM

Stop breeding for half a century. Let Nature recover. Species are dying because humans think only they matter. They do but not at the expense of other life which maintains the ecosystem. Humans are breeding themselves into extinction. Within a few centuries. Or a band calls itself: Mankind is Obsolete.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 20, 2021 12:13 PM
Reply to  Lutz Barz

it’s NOT the pop, it’s what pop does.

Ben
Ben
Jan 20, 2021 12:22 PM
Reply to  Lutz Barz

Would help if the Vatican didn’t meddle around the world to prevent contraception

And some women have asked for steralization because they never want to have children but their governments have forbidden them, because the mother and child narrative dominates our culture

Antinatalism is the most ethical stance, especially considering so many children are suffering terrible lives under poverty and lockdown. Lives they never asked for

Kalen
Kalen
Jan 20, 2021 12:18 AM

While subject and concern of author about devastating socioeconomic, cultural and political impact of industrial agriculture, biotech and agrochemistry on humanity is valid and agroecology is a vital alternative to end global hunger that impact socially, psychologically and economically especially rich western countries more than global south.

Yes. You heard me right western people are hungry they are starving of vital and critical to human health nutrients while consuming tones of petrochemical and agrochemical, biochemical shit wrongly called food.

The honest nutritionists warn that you have to be professional to find 1-5% of products in supermarket that give you some nourishment and won’t slowly kill you. Obesity is a direct result of mass producing commercial agri processing industry as already suffering from extreme social stress of effective enslavement people load themselves with junk responding to desperate cravings to get nutrients they need absent in or in minute amounts of food substitutes they purchase.

Only in such context one may repudiate capitalist claims that their for profit agricultural solutions feed eight billions of people a feat supposedly impossible without private entrepreneurship and agri chemical technology treated as blessing the only alternative in supposedly overpopulated world according to oligarchic propaganda taught also in schools.

That said, author ignores, beats around the bushes where real issue is hidden namely issue of large global concentrated private land ownership or in fact issue of private property ownership in itself that fundamentally stifles agriecological efforts as much as profit and control driven policies of oligarchic elites.

At this point some unaware may turn off this train of thought via their embedded Pavlov conditioning raising bad “socialism” alarm, expropriation of people from their land and nationalization.

Not only abolishing of private property does not mean nationalization under centralized state control but most of all means return individual control over land and natural resources people share to commons controlled by community concerned not with instant profit for individuals but with self sustainability, self reliance, overall health of community, long term planning of social investments etc., all focused on serving local community first.

For those who see oligarchic devastation in agriculture but still are reluctant to accept commons as only acceptable and efficacious form of land agriecological ownership fearing as new what actually was primary form of ownership for millennia.

And hence in new agri ecological social set up vast majority of land are under commons. All of that may work only within self governed communities implementing principles of equal, equitable egalitarian society.

There are no two ways about it, desperately needed agri ecology is a fairy tale on global scale if current dictated by global capital land property relations are not abolished. Period.

Serf
Serf
Jan 20, 2021 11:54 AM
Reply to  Kalen

Outstanding comment! How may I vote for you?!

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Jan 19, 2021 11:12 PM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com
Kremlin:”Failure of American State” If Big Tech Wins/
Q Mirrors Bolshevik 1920s PsyOp/
Maxwell Update/
…Inaguration?: Planes, Ships & Tanks Appear/
Warnings- To Teachers.Ham Radio/
Zionist Centered Take On DC Now/
Palindrome: 1.20.2021/
TEXIT

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Jan 19, 2021 11:11 PM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.comKremlin:”Failure of American State” If Big Tech Wins/
Q Mirrors Bolshevik 1920s PsyOp/
Maxwell Update/
…Inaguration?: Planes, Ships & Tanks Appear/
Warnings- To Teachers.Ham Radio/
Zionist Centered Take On DC Now/
Palindrome: 1.20.2021/
TEXIT

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Jan 19, 2021 9:36 PM

In these times we are supposed to consider alarming, chaotic and, above all, frightening, we can witness a complete absence of subtlety in the moves being made by The Nazi / US overlords attempting to take over the planet and humanity using their Science and technology war department.. It’s a sign that they see no need for subtlety as they have all the aces and we have nothing.

We are hours away from the nightmare Nazi Military / Biological / Genocidal Industrial Complex appointing another puppet to advance their hijack exercise. Obama’s unfinished business is about to be completed through his former sinister president of vice, Joseph Robintte Biden Jr. Dickhead for short.

Biden is bringing in one of Obama’s psychopaths on day one. Bloated nihilist Tom Vilsack is about to take the helm as one of the more ridiculous misnomers- ‘Secretary Of Agriculture’. How appropriate that this is happening as Bill Gates nears orgasm during his Vaccine orgy and is already planning on preparing another area of his empire to get the other weapons ready in the Monsanto bunkers.

Vilsack built his reputation by influencing one of the Bush Dynasty to contrive a reason to attack Iraq. Once the booty was counted and everyone was happy, he wanted to appear to be an advocate to ‘withdraw’. Well, why not. Money on the hip and there are places elsewhere to intimidate.

Soon it would be time to make climate change and related fairy tales trendy. Obama gave Tom the gig. When Obama gives you a thumbs- up you can’t be a decent human being.

He would soon come to advocate processed foods and GMs because he was told to. Then he became too rich and too bored and resigned. Just as well really. He was probably told that the following year Hilary wouldn’t be allowed into the White House. But they’re back now. The White House is now blackened by the shadow of the death cult members that had left in 2016. There must be work to do.

Dust down Vilsack’s CV and you’ll understand why he was a natural choice.

“He pushed through a corporate agribusiness agenda that began with his approval of more new genetically modified crops than any other Secretary, culminated in his shepherding of a bill to kill GMO labels through Congress, and included his racist firing of African American land trust hero Shirley Sherrod and his distortion of data to conceal decades of discrimination against black farmers. Between 2006 and 2016, the USDA [US Dept. of Agriculture] was six times more likely to foreclose on a black farmer than a white farmer.”

We can’t look at this without looking at Obama’s best bits during his reign of terror.
One of his stand -outs ( apart from the Scooby Doo episode in which he pretended to track down, kill, and then lose all evidence of Osama Bin Laden a short time before losing his corpse, then the whole crew who carried out the script in an ‘accident’ ) was his signing and securing total security for Monsanto. 

Poor old Monsanto had paid out billions over a few years to plaintiffs who had been made permanently ill and maimed by them, or who were claiming on behalf of loved ones who hadn’t been that lucky. You’d expect a government to intervene and order them to clean up their act or face closure. What Obama did was pass what is colloquially known as ‘The Monsanto Bill’ in 2009. Thus, like the Gates -funded vaccine manufacturers, they are now golden. Whatever they cause – they will face no consequences.

And now, as Gates nears orgasm as his dream of transforming the inner workings of Homo sapien to resemble that of one of his Windows programmes so they will need permanent ‘updates’ via their arms, the same team is back who legislate his madness.

This is must be why Trump couldn’t have been allowed to have enough votes to hold on to the big job. It’s all in the timing….

One last mention.

Somewhere in the midst of the 20th century push to contrive a pretext to cull the global population, another wild -eyed psychopath inserted himself into the drama, one John Holdren.

This diseased creature cherry-picked all he could from Eugenicists like Galton, Sanger, Gates Sr , Darwin and Malthus and then fell in love with the ramblings of Harrison Brown ( 1950s).

  • His mania drove him to write Ecoscience. His wet dream of the culling of almost all of us
  • His best bits are up there above those of Hitler and Gates.
  • Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
  • The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food.
  • Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
  • People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” In other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
  • A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.
  • Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.



  • One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption—especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone. If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it. 


The list is disturbingly endless. As is his psychosis.

You and I look at this and conclude- dangerous psychotic who should be in a large building stuffing soft toys until further notice.

The team of Obama and Biden looked at it saw :

Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology — informally known as the United States’ Science Czar.

And we are in the midst of a synthetic virus creating genuine chaos to usher in a fake vaccine as Monsanto make billionaires richer creating synthetic food with manipulated DNA.

Apart from all that, you have to laugh I suppose..

awildgoose
awildgoose
Jan 20, 2021 1:19 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Excellent post.

I would only add that Obama and Biden are merely tools of the globalist techno-fascists and the CCP, who are the model for global, techno-fascist society.

fame
fame
Jan 19, 2021 7:07 PM

“Cut through the euphemisms and it is clear that Bill Gates – and the other incredibly rich individuals behind the great reset with their ‘white saviour’ mindset – “ need to be injected daily with their toxic pathogenic operating systems that they are trying to force on the rest of the world. Not enough is said about people around the world being forced off their land and into the slave shities.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 20, 2021 12:28 AM
Reply to  fame

Do you think they can take the heat coz we will make it as hot necessary?

Honey Potter
Honey Potter
Jan 19, 2021 6:49 PM

The machine is not the 0,0001% at the top of the corporate hierarchy, and is not the handful of muppet politicians. It is the many millions who work as the cogs in advertising, marketing, banking, data mining, social media,etc etc ad nauseam, and who are supposedly innocent. It is everyone who puts on the mask because they are told to do so, even though they don’t beleive there is a pandemic, because they are afraid to die and are afraid to live. They believe human lives are far more inportant than the rest of the biosphere and can survive (and even prosper) wihtout the biosphere, with the help of technology.

All of them are still dreaming the American Dream and are only interested in their own short term material gains. The muddled middle classes are what the COVAIDS scam is all about, and there is quite a lot of them. They support global fascism because they are hooked on a sci-fi fairy tale. This is why there is no simple alternative. Technology is inextricably linked to the destruction of the planet and of human culture.

Agroecology is not happening, will not be allowed to happen, until the machine is destroyed or breaks down. A mass die-off seems inevitable without some kind of miracle.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 19, 2021 7:30 PM
Reply to  Honey Potter

It is happening.

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 21, 2021 3:02 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

wipipo. sheesh.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jan 19, 2021 5:52 PM

And what does the government want to do about agroecology? Rewild 30% of the country!!! It’s the Enclosure Acts once more, and Scotland wants Highland Clearance phase two. I suppose this is the New Green Deal

Honey Potter
Honey Potter
Jan 19, 2021 6:52 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

THe UK used to be about 70% woodlands. There is no meaningful survival without wilderness.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jan 19, 2021 7:29 PM
Reply to  Honey Potter

Do you live in the wilderness? How do you manage to survive meaningfully?

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 21, 2021 3:10 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

these people lived around here for at least twenty thousand years;
The Anishinabe are the third largest tribe in North America and most lived near Lake Superior. In the United States they call them the Chippewa and in Canada they call them the Ojibwe though they prefer Anishinabe.
https://anishinaabeinfo.webs.com/
hard to call it wilderness.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jan 21, 2021 3:40 PM
Reply to  steadydirt

No people allowed in Wildlands, no Anishinabe. Reserved for elite bloodsports.

Constant Warning
Constant Warning
Jan 20, 2021 5:42 PM
Reply to  Honey Potter

They seem OK in the Cities of London and New York. Unlike the populations in wild Africa

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 21, 2021 3:06 PM
Reply to  Honey Potter

wilderness existed before people.
people now are everywhere.

Russ
Russ
Jan 20, 2021 8:31 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

The necessary transformation to agroecology has zero to do with any version of the “Green New Deal”. The two are mutually exclusive, since the GND is just another corporate technocratic gambit which, by intending still to keep the vast majority of workers out of food production, therefore assumes the perpetuation of poison-based industrial agriculture.

Food systems grounded in agroecology assume that the large majority of able-bodied people would participate in growing and preparing food. But this would be nothing like the harsh work conditions of agricultural laborers under the industrial commodity food system. It would be more like tending your own garden and/or preparing and cooking in your own kitchen for a few hours a day.

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 20, 2021 3:13 PM
Reply to  Russ

Even for a small plot, the more planning/knowledge and the less dependence on manipulative markets/finance, the better the result in quantity and quality. After the collective farms tanked in USSR, the small plots allocated to individual farmers contributed a significant proportion of food.

Carey
Carey
Jan 20, 2021 11:38 PM
Reply to  Russ

> Food systems grounded in agroecology assume that the large majority of
able-bodied people would participate in growing and preparing food. But
this would be nothing like the harsh work conditions of agricultural
laborers under the industrial commodity food system. It would be more
like tending your own garden and/or preparing and cooking in your own
kitchen for a few hours a day.

I think you are right about this; I also think that those who presently illegitimately
rule us [consent of the governed, and all that] will be working hard to ensure
that alternatives to their hellscape are quashed with extreme prejudice.

Still, that’s the only thing to do. As said below: get off the evilNet, for a start-

The birds and the like seem to be doing fine, out in the real world; and without
masks/vaxxes, permanent surveillance, and so on..

Internet = spookVille. If a site is not gotten-to at present, it will be soon..

Carey
Carey
Jan 21, 2021 12:03 AM
Reply to  Carey

Adding: I’ll once again recommend the 2003 film ‘Masked and Anonymous’, esp the parts portrayed by John Goodman, Jeff Bridges, and (especially!)
Mickey Rourke. It’s a very erratic movie, and often the actors are, or seem
to be, merely mouthing their lines.. Mmm, you decide.

As with ‘Brazil’ and ‘Blade Runner’, those who Rule us like to let us know
what they have planned.

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 21, 2021 3:14 PM
Reply to  Carey

on the contrary; bird populations in north america are in collapse. down roughly 30% since poison culture got underway. about three billion less birds.
barn swallows are down 90%. insects are being wiped out with ominous poisons

Russ
Russ
Jan 20, 2021 8:36 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Needless to say, existing governments will never do anything toward the necessary and inevitable transformation of food production and distribution. In the end the Earth will insist since the industrial system is physically unsustainable in many ways.

Humanity can take responsibility for its own future and undertake the change with agency, thereby doing things the less hard way, or can hunker in the bunker and insist on doing things the hardest way possible.

As we see with the Covid Death Cult, the majority of humanity evidently wants desperately to regress to the most infantile state possible and do literally nothing toward the necessary changes. So the Earth will have to impose them by force.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jan 20, 2021 1:09 PM
Reply to  Russ

Governments can’t do anything about anything, they’re employees of a service corporation and are bound by the rules of that organisation. It seems that the non living corporation entity runs the world, not living wo/men. I’m reading round and about this subject because I can see no solution without tackling this foundation which is built on nothing. We have phoney organisations tackling a phoeney (Fraudian slip) disease with a phony prophylactic created by phony science, on and on to a fony infinity. Behind the unattractive gothic exterior of ” a warrior calls” I’m finding substance and in the uncompromising brusqueness of “the bridge life in the mix” as well.

SEF
SEF
Jan 20, 2021 7:17 PM
Reply to  Russ

I sure hope she does – and quickly!

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Jan 19, 2021 4:52 PM

I’ve been back tracking to when this BS began. Or when it was made the official narrative and the run up to it..

It amazed me that the same team were singing the same song about self isolation / social distancing and so on being worthless and counter productive. Then they all psychically changed their mind at the same time and sang the opposite song together. Same choir ; same words, same sheet. Same composers.

I keep bumping into the same core of creatures involved in this. Their nest is located in Silicon Valley.

I see those who are billionaires via their technology background ( and IT) investing in various other synthetic experimental nonsense such as GMs and synthetic ‘meat’.. You won’t believe this, but Gates has put billions into it. Yes- true story. He does treat us lab rats well doesn’t he..

The recent obsession of millennials – or education dodgers – has been synthetic meat They emote profusely and dampen their line of wristbands at the thought of animals dying( they think they should live forever and ever). So, make some meat out of ‘plants’ ( so the official line goes) and they’ll eat like real people.

Beyond Meat ( BYND) is the new rock n roll. The sensitives and snowflakes love it and the billionaires love the profits. Welcome to the wonderfully twisted world of Synthetic Biology.

Recap ; Synthetic ;biology ; fake; Gates.

Now, copy this statement out in large block caps and in bold and plaster it to the inside of your eyelids :

Synthetic biology involves reconfiguring the DNA of an organism to create something entirely new. It allows scientists to design living things with attributes and characteristics we desire.

*scientists = eugenicists /. nihilists ; ‘we desire ‘ = they desire.*

(here comes the punchline ) :

In short, it allows you to “program” biology just like you would a computer.

Now, remind me, this ‘vaccine’ thing and the scientific evidence that it doesn’t meet the requirements of language or Science to be defined as a real vaccine..Gates – funded ? Thought it might be…

These companies use a DNA coding sequence from soybeans to create meat that looks and tastes like beef… but is actually made of vegetables.

So, as any self-respecting college paper would demand us ask – what are the implications of this ?

The clues are there. They’re there in the names of the protagonists, the measure of their wealth, the companies that hold their stock , and the goals that they have pursued so long so successfully.

Catherine Austin Fitts has recently been pointing out that these tools are ‘vaccines’ in name only, called so to give them legal immunity from liability, when actually they are operating systems:

”Just as Gates installed an operating system in our computers, now the vision is to install an operating system in our bodies and use “viruses” to mandate an initial installation followed by regular updates. Intentional heavy metal poisoning is not medicine. Injectible surveillance components are not medicine. Injectible credit cards are not medicine. Injectible brain-machine interface is not a medicine. Immunity for insurance companies is not the creation of human immunity.”

Kissinger, Rockerfeller’s NWO salesman and eugenicist psychopath once said ‘‘Control the food, control the people”

More recently he’s had the media arm of the operation plaster his bloated face all over the MSM calling for ‘herd immunity’ ; he’s been quoted as ‘joining Bill Gates’ in his plea. That’s the same Bill Gates who has tried to hijack humanity as a race as well the global agriculture in order to create Frankenfood for the soon-to-be Frankenpeople.

All they need to do is control – the formation of-and-creation-of-the-seeds-that- control-the-food-((that-gives-us-control-of-the-people)).

They’ll need a hell of trick to fool those people. Only one I can see working is one that stars a Frankenvirus…

Bill Gates- Microsoft. Bill Gates computer code writer. Bill Gates- creator of computer viruses. Bill Gates, champion of and substantial shareholder in Monsanto ; Bill Gates. non – medical -anything -at- all. And so on..

Dr Judy Mikovits adds :

“It’s a synthetic pathogen. They’ve literally injected this pathogenic part of the virus into every cell of the body ”

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 19, 2021 6:30 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

The silicon valley people actually promote grass fed beef and bullet proof coffee.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Jan 19, 2021 9:48 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

That’s a wild thought. I’m trying to imagine stirring bullet proof coffee..

richard
richard
Jan 19, 2021 7:17 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

For soybean think soylent green…

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 20, 2021 1:32 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Hello JuraCalling: You stated: In short, it allows you to “program” biology just like you would a computer.

While this is somewhat true, there are major differences between liner computer modeling and the absolute variability of DNA in situ. DNA is about as nonlinear as it gets.
That’s the reason many researchers in the biological sciences are attempting to prohibit any further tampering with DNA coding and genetically engineered species.
The human species is only one of billions of species at risk of random mutations. The Gill Bates genie needs to be stuffed back into a very small bottle and placed into a blast furnace…

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Jan 20, 2021 8:29 AM

I agree Paul.

”That’s the reason many researchers in the biological sciences are attempting to prohibit any further tampering with DNA coding and genetically engineered species.”

Good Science Vs Bad Science isn’t it.

In some of the above post I made, Judy Mikovits is referenced. She was once part of the Bad Science side of the battle. It took the cover up and discovery of misinformation and downright profiteering of sinister billionaires like Fauci and Gallo to open her eyes. Unfortunately she then opened her mouth too. That sealed her fate and ended her career and standing in the virology community.

Fauci / Gallo / Gates et al became richer as tens of millions were allowed to die from AIDS while the profits climbed. This makes them evil and Judy M heroic. The lab where this evil was flourishing, incidentally, was a bio weapons lab. What were AIDS and HIV doing in that building ? Not to worry- they fooled the country by replacing the sign with another scam : ‘ Cancer Research’. Only the sign was changed. It’s been business as usual.

Gates and the cartel he heads have proven two things ; all men have a price and they can afford it; and good people- those who speak and work with our best interests at heart- can be silenced if they won’t take the dollar.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 20, 2021 1:22 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

A quote from the video game, “The Elder Scrolls Online”:
“Everyone has their price. Mine’s five quid.”…

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jan 20, 2021 1:18 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Through silicon valley runs the money alley where the dead men lose their bones.

Carey
Carey
Jan 20, 2021 11:31 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

So much explaining/normalizing, as with virtually all the long-winded commenters here: they’ll [somehow] give us every detail about what’s being done to us, its history, and so on; but never, ever a word about what one might do about it..

Step 1) Get off the evilNet: no good can be found in what is now pure spookVille.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Jan 21, 2021 12:13 AM
Reply to  Carey

Fair to say that the further you go back the more effective the people were. Right up to the advent of the birth of Microsoft and the PC. That was the preparation; that would be our gateway to a Hell that looked like Heaven from the outside.

before the internet we had the underground. We had places to meet that had doors we could lock. Discussions could commence based on the collective thoughts and sentiments of all gathered. This was the way to mobilise; to act.

The elite, puppet masters and handlers couldn’t be one step ahead back then; they could only guess what the feeling out there was and how the people would react. They had only one option ; If it was about rights- change them ; pass new laws and abolish old ones- especially in the workplace. This was all they could do to maintain control. What they needed was two things; pens large enough to gather millions within their confines; the right bells and whistles to attract the millions enough to convince them it could be a Land of Milk and Honey. All they had to do then is watch and listen. 

The people had abandoned their only weapons; secrecy and purpose. They sold their souls to the Zuckerbergs, Gates and other CIA / Mossad agents who had built their new playground.

It’s now a place that allows those psychopaths to realise their long held wet dream- being able to read minds. Because every though these sheeple have is transmitted into words and plastered onto their wall for them to examine. Brilliant.

Carey
Carey
Jan 21, 2021 12:33 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

> The people had abandoned their only weapons; secrecy and purpose. They sold their souls

Mmm, is *that* how it went? “It’s the Stupid/Lazy *People’s* fault!”

Mmm, no.

I see the opMoc got a couple of days off, though; that is good!

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 21, 2021 3:25 PM
Reply to  Carey

people continue to speak in private away from digital data mining devices

Gary Wilson
Gary Wilson
Jan 19, 2021 4:05 PM

For Arundhati Roy in one sentence an alternative: Improve the ability of the soil to produce protein.

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 21, 2021 3:27 PM
Reply to  Gary Wilson

who owns this soil?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jan 19, 2021 3:13 PM

“Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!”

There is a reason I call them the unIntelligence agencies. If you follow the organs that presume to manipulate our perceptions and our politics, there are few bright sparks among them. Perhaps promoting each other on the basis of sexual loyalty or weaknesses that can be manipulated accounts for part of it.

THE CAPITOL INCURSION OF JAN 6TH CRUMBLES FURTHER

Does Anderson Cooper of CNN personally know the speed skater and “activist” John Sullivan?

Yes, the fresh faced young man who appeared, breathless, on Cooper’s show after finding himself at the center of the Capitol incursion… ‘cos he was there to “document” the event.

Just asking because CNN seems to have been complicit in the Capitol incursion, at least in its promotion of a version of events that seems to be a low and squalid tale.

The Grayzone’s Max Blumenthal published a desperate cover story claiming John Sullivan had been kicked out of BLM because they suspected he was an agent. The story has the ring of truth but even more loose ends: Sullivan’s father is an airforce general; John’s brother is also an activist, but a right-wing Proud Boy.

Both boys, proud and skater, are financed by Jade Sacker who is just a wandering documentary maker who, by her own admission, has a “team” behind her that feeds her money, which she passes on to the boys while making a documentary about their life.

Jade appeared with John’s handler during the Cooper interview. She was with John in the Capitol on Jan 6th, filming while a supposed Trumper, Ashli Babbitt was killed. But it turns out that Ashli was a 14-year airforce intelligence officer. You have to ask if such a professional would charge through a window at a bunch of Congressmen knowing they’d be protected by deadly force.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/who-is-john-sullivan-accused-provocateur-charged-in-capitol-riot/

From speed-staking child of a wealthy family to Uber driver; Olympic trials to Antifa.
https://thepostmillennial.com/john-sullivan-from-olympic-athlete-to-antifa-supporting-anarchist

Deleted pages on skater John
https://web.archive.org/web/20170226210209if_/https://twitter.com/johnjohn809

https://web.archive.org/web/20170826140322/https://www.uber.com/blog/meet-john-an-aspiring-speed-skater/

These, we are asked to believe, are the Trumpers

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jan 19, 2021 3:35 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Correction: Jade appeared with John… she may or may not be his handler.

John Sullivan aka Jaden X claims to be the founder of Insurgence USA, though his BLM/Antifa colleagues grew suspicious of him (according to Grayzone) because of the alacrity with which police release him.

He has been arrested twice for the Jan 6th events. Twice he has been released within hours.

Two journalists have examined footage of the Capitol incursion. Both have concluded the activities were led by provocateurs. I previously highlighted the analysis of Masako Ganaha.

War correspondent Michael Yon says the tactics and equipment identify them as Antifa provocateurs, using tactics learned during the Hong Kong protests.

‘Agent Provocateur’ Tactics Seen at Jan 6 US Capitol Protest—Interview With Michael Yon |

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jan 19, 2021 3:41 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Having said this, John Sullivan is so obvious and “out there” that he, in turn, is cover for the principal provocateurs or false flaggers, including agency operatives who managed the apparent shooting of airforce security/intel officer Ashli Babbitt.

Such a sensitive operation as framing and ousting a president was of course managed on a professional level and was not the ad hoc work of Antifa.

Carey
Carey
Jan 21, 2021 1:12 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

> Having said this, John Sullivan is so obvious and “out there”

Just like *you*, dude.. but it’s all in the game, isn’t it?

so very much spare time

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 20, 2021 1:07 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Hello Moneycircus: Superb interview! This totally corroborates information from other eye witnesses of the 1/6/21 “event”. Thanks again for your excellent posts.

Honey Potter
Honey Potter
Jan 19, 2021 6:56 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I recall there was someone else who was there to “document the event ” (their exact words) during the 9/11 operation.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 19, 2021 2:27 PM

I once had an elderly client who owned a small parcel of land, and had been a traditional farmer since birth. His father, uncles, and several cousins, had ALL been booted off their farms due to eminent domain settlements, or by agribusiness “market pressures”.

He was of Scandinavian descent, and possessed a wonderfully dry sense of humor. One afternoon we were talking about local politics. His suggestion: >
“Hey I’ve got a really great idea. Let’s every one grow really nutritious food. Then make sure everyone has some of it to eat.”

It was pure genius. I laughed like hell…

Researcher
Researcher
Jan 19, 2021 9:40 PM

I like the idea of community vegetable gardens and co-ops. Why aren’t parks filled with fruit trees? Communal spaces could be used to grow food. People have been brainwashed to manicure useless lawns and use roundup, rather than cultivate vegetable and herb gardens. It’s so bizarre.

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 19, 2021 11:22 PM
Reply to  Researcher

The fruits clog the storm sewers while creating a hazard for people who use the parks for what they were designed for. Playing. Fuck. Sometimes I wonder…..

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 19, 2021 11:48 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Hello Researcher: Lawns are one of my pet peeves. As if a glyphosate desert is more appealing than a wooded lot…

One of the discussions I had with the person I mentioned above, was to organize a community produce garden. There was already space available, and even a couple of abandon greenhouses!!! I worked for about six months trying to gather various people together. Big fail. Most folks were so busy with jobs and extracurricular kids, we couldn’t even agree on a time to meet. It sucked…

May Hem
May Hem
Jan 20, 2021 2:54 AM

There are no fruit or nut trees in public parks as retailers want you to pay for these products.

Post Hoc
Post Hoc
Jan 20, 2021 3:11 AM

A large green lawn is such a waste of space which attracts nothing of interest apart from the frequent use of a noisy lawn mower and edging tools for a manicured effect, giving good custom to hardware merchants.

The only good thing about modern parks and gardens is a percentage of oxygen and possibly a food source for small birds as they poke around for ants and worms.

Soon we may have to convert public and private parks to guarantee a safe food source.

A new paradigm of aesthetic value.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 19, 2021 2:26 PM

I can’t help thinking we shouldn’t even be talking about ‘post-covid’ anything.

This horrible circus was an infantile aberration on the part of the robots who now presume to be our representatives.
But they do not represent us.

We should be expunging their memory from the history books before they start burning those very books all over again.

At the very least, we can stop being mild-mannered about it all.
It’s a disgrace to human kind, and we should be deciding what the future is going to look like, not the robots.

My personal crusade is to be creative in any way possible, especially in artistic ways.
I am not thinking of the ‘composers’ and ‘artists’ who perpetrate atrocities in the name of art, but people who share Debussy’s conviction that the aim of all art is the pursuit of beauty.

Before we forget what beauty even is, we need to start creating more of it.
I truly believe that an artistic nature lies in most of us, and of course with practice it becomes more perfect.
And, practice, we must.
Otherwise our future will be that concrete wall behind the stage which was mentioned in a recent article here.

Esmeralda
Esmeralda
Jan 19, 2021 5:53 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Being an artist, I love this comment. You’re so right- we have to focus on what is good, positive and beautiful so as to inspire and remain charged. One can get so sapped from all the negativity and mechanistic way of relating to others. Human creativity and imagination stands in sharp contrast to AI and this whole technological futuristic nightmare.

SEF
SEF
Jan 20, 2021 7:01 PM
Reply to  Esmeralda

Great comment! Quite true. Thanks for the reminder. It was much needed for me today, thank you.

Willem
Willem
Jan 19, 2021 8:38 PM
Reply to  wardropper

reminds me of the tin drum. Unfortunately, couldn’t find the scene on the web, but did find the transcript

  • Bebra You must join us, you must!
  • Oskar Matzerath You know, Mr. Bebra… to tell the truth, I prefer to be a member of the audience, and let my little art flower in secret.
  • Bebra My dear Oskar, trust an experienced colleague. Our kind must never sit in the audience. Our kind must perform and run the show, or the others will run *us*. The others are coming. They will occupy the fairgrounds, they will stage torchlight parades, build rostrums, fill the rostrums, and from those rostrums preach our destruction.
wardropper
wardropper
Jan 20, 2021 1:06 PM
Reply to  Willem

That is an important consideration too. Thanks.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 19, 2021 11:35 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Hello wardropper: You said: “Before we forget what beauty even is, we need to start creating more of it.”

So true. I quit watching films over 25 years ago. The “drama” scenes were so ugly, I couldn’t stand watching them. Apparently, I’m not very programmable…

The last two generations have been exposed to some of the ugliest art the world has ever produced. Colors schemes have waxed completely unnatural, and urban landscapes get more and more surreal. All this ugliness affects the soul at a very deep level…

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 20, 2021 1:14 PM

Also very true.
I remember my piano teacher saying many decades ago that he couldn’t bear to watch tv! As a fabulous pianist, he was also of course a sensitive soul, and he explained that he just couldn’t help getting totally involved in the stories presented. And it left him drained.

I’m still not convinced, however, that today’s tv trash would have the power to get him involved at all…

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 20, 2021 2:35 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Like many persons in the creative arts, I happen to be quite sensitive to all levels of environment. Much like your pianist friend, movie films almost always left me feeling drained or actually depressed. Girlfriends didn’t get this, and couldn’t understand why I’d prefer a walk in woods or just a quiet evening at home…
As a result, I’ve lived most of my life as a recluse. Their loss as far as I’m concerned.

People whine and complain about 9 months of lock down. Try it for 35 years and see how well you do…

I enjoy your posts. Keep them coming.

Chris
Chris
Jan 19, 2021 2:12 PM

This site has been overtaken by bots.
If we post cryptically we’ll be ok.

AI doesn’t understand humour.
Lol!

Chris
Chris
Jan 19, 2021 2:16 PM
Reply to  Chris

laughter is a connection with Intelligent Infinity. That’s why your body goes into spasms.
You become, for an instance, all there is.

In Unity there is no ‘other’.

gordan
gordan
Jan 19, 2021 5:39 PM
Reply to  Chris

indeed indeed i laugh
every time i sea your name here hare here

alas comedy like the beatles is mainly tavistock and zio khazar projects

degrade the human spirit
mus int grumble av a laugh all betta now

bill hicks got cancer dosed by the mossad mi5
while working on channel 4 uk programme

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Jan 19, 2021 6:10 PM
Reply to  Chris

Laughter id the best medicine to coin another inaccurate cliche. In certain cases anti-psychotics are more effective.

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 19, 2021 11:36 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

I am looking to get my supply……

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 19, 2021 2:28 PM
Reply to  Chris

Humourlessness is one of our two greatest enemies.
The MSM are the other.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2021 3:32 PM
Reply to  wardropper

And never has the MSM been more humourless. And in the face of a situation which is crying out for humour. Ah but that would be blasphemy! And yet the sanctimonious tension builds and builds. You would think that in those relentlessly dour and gooey news rooms somebody somewhere must feel an irresistable grin impending. And one day someone will guffaw. That’s all it would take. One guffaw! Or even a snort! Like the boy who wasn’t told about the emperor’s new clothes. One snort and the whole fucking facade comes crashing down!

Dan Manns
Dan Manns
Jan 19, 2021 4:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I think that’s what happened to Matt Hancock on GMB. He almost let out a guffaw at all the nonsense the majority of the British public have gone along with during the last year and just in the nick of time he caught it and tried to turn it into tears of joy which convinced absolutely no one…Terrible politician, abysmal public speaker and even worse as an actor…

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2021 9:16 PM
Reply to  Dan Manns

That was the very scene going through my mind!

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 19, 2021 8:27 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Very true.
I suppose that really boils our principle enemy down to one item:
Humourless MSM.

Unfortunately the newsrooms are now doomed, since the genuine journalists have lost their jobs.
The specimens left to fill their places wouldn’t know what an “irresistible grin” was, unless Bill Gates’s trousers were to fall down, of course.
The sublime level of divine comedy perpetrated by this cove crap is way above their heads…

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 20, 2021 9:29 AM
Reply to  wardropper

TV news these days is an insult even to the most stupid. It is becoming increasingly clear that all the channels have become one big non-stop advert for the vax. And those “little tales of covid heartbreak” are the most vomitable nuggets of propaganda with their veiled – and often not so veiled – wrath at the covid unbelievers. 

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 20, 2021 11:03 AM
Reply to  George Mc

if you watch it you are likely to be diverted into some controlled opposition position which we really can’t afford. there is so much that isn’t even being considered because people are caught up in these diversions. What about new relationships and children? If people are “social distancing” then that is loads of relationships prevented and children who would have been born murdered. These entities pushing vaccines and lockdowns and there being a “virus” are mass murderers and abusers. Isn’t there a right to self defense? a right to protect these children? why not talk about that or what ever else comes up by getting away from their diversions.

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 19, 2021 11:39 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Problem with today’s humorists is that they are only out to destroy. Deep down they are very sad and need anti psychotics of their own.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 20, 2021 12:53 PM

Perhaps not all of them.
George Carlin seemed to have found a happy medium. Not a sad person, but a highly intelligent and rather warm-hearted thinker. His show was of course rough going for the hypersensitive…
Mark Twain, whose frank wit did not disguise a genuine empathy for his fellow man, was perhaps an excellent role model for today’s best humorists.
Billy Connolly is also full of enthusiasm for mankind’s peculiarities, and there are many younger examples of sharp humour which still succeed in not being nasty or destructive.
It’s the humour which counts, even if there is a personal cost to the humorist. Carlin modestly described himself as a low-level artist, but artist he was.
In the world of musical art, it was said of Mozart that you never saw him without a glass of punch nearby – which may well have contributed to his extremely early death – but, really, who cares, when he could leave us with music of such beauty and calibre?

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 20, 2021 5:58 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I loved Carlin too. Followed him since I first began to appreciate humor in the 60’s. I also loved Bill Cosby. Sorry. I should have said most. But this audience knows what meant. The political satirists are the worst. Too bad Mark Twain has been cancelled. My poor wife was an English teacher and never stopped teaching his books and felt that no matter how much pressure she received from parents, students and some administrators, the message in the books and her explanations of the the culture of our country at the time were too important. But the hate being spewed by some of these very popular comedians is so bad for our country and the world, for that matter. I turn them off. Unfortunately, many others don’t.
My wife promoted 10/90 (one of the ancient Greeks…. said it a few thousand years ago). Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you deal with it. Her passion killed her. Cancer. Hardest working person I ever knew. So can you say the “seven dirty words” without taking a breath……..

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 19, 2021 2:01 PM

“Woke” eco types turn out to be stooges for the Covid narrative and Big Pharma shock:

https://nypost.com/2021/01/18/how-to-get-a-free-bag-of-weed-with-your-covid-19-vaccine/

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 26, 2021 5:50 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I assume it means that sharing a joint, a bong or a pipe will be allowable again without worry of catching or spreading “something”. Good thing we did not have a pandemic in the 60s. Never saw eco type used in this context before. Interesting. I assume it means a pothead environmentalist. I always thought it meant a locally adapted species. I will make the new definition available for it’s new usage whenever possible.

Maribel Tuff
Maribel Tuff
Jan 19, 2021 1:37 PM

Looks like the Chinese are investing in ‘death camps’? seems a little disproportionate for a virus with a mortality rate not that much greater than a bad seasonal flu outbreak?

”Coronavirus live news: China builds quarantine centre for 4,000 people”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/19/coronavirus-live-news-independent-pandemic-panel-critical-of-china-and-who-california-urges-pause-to-moderna-vaccine

NickM
NickM
Jan 19, 2021 2:32 PM
Reply to  Maribel Tuff

Maribel, Maribel, didn’t your mother ever tell you? The Guardian is fake news — especially about China. This is the **Off**Guardian.

Maribel Tuff
Maribel Tuff
Jan 19, 2021 1:33 PM

This is so worrying, the only sites allowed and pushed by google algorithms against the Covid scam, are far-right CIA fronts, pushing the blame bill gates game. Saving the US empire, and its administration from any back-lash or blame for this Covid scam.

It is amazing that both the Covid lies and the opposition to it, are so controlled by the US deep state. They are really making use of their control of the internet, google and social media before the people get wise to them.

They have a window of opportunity to stage the biggest con in history and they are doing it.

‘Vaccine deaths’, come top of the google search:

https://www.vaccinedeaths.com/2021-01-15-you-may-want-to-rethink-the-jab.html

Esmeralda
Esmeralda
Jan 19, 2021 5:56 PM
Reply to  Maribel Tuff

Try duck duck go. I don’t even bother with Google now unless I want to locate say, a restaurant.

Ben
Ben
Jan 19, 2021 1:16 PM

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Maribel Tuff
Maribel Tuff
Jan 19, 2021 1:51 PM
Reply to  Ben

I suspect she wasn’t buying into the bullshit so she got removed.

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 19, 2021 11:43 PM
Reply to  Ben

Naked news would take her.

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 19, 2021 1:11 PM

agroecology provides greatly improved food security and nutritional, gender, environmental and yield benefits compared to industrial agriculture”.

Gender? That link is dead BTW.

Maribel Tuff
Maribel Tuff
Jan 19, 2021 12:45 PM

I think we should all be on the guardian every day fighting the NSA trolls there, who lie & propagandise on the comments pages to shut down the British economy to help their Amazon and Google.

On the subject of vaccinations and ‘long Covid’ in the guardian yesterday:

(Guardian shill):”Vaccination could prevent literally thousands of unnecessary complications and deaths ”
(Me): You have no evidence at all for that comment do you?

Of course my account was quickly closed after that discussion. In the same why that the liars of the MSM claimed they have evidence that Global warming was proven, we should ask the NSA trolls in the guardian to prove what they say. Prove it!
Because They can’t. They have no evidence for many of their claims. Where is the proof that the pfizer vaccine will stop ‘Long Covid’ & where is the proof that ‘Long covid’ is even a thing? They have speculation but no proof so call them out.

How do you prove the affects of ‘long Covid’ in a ‘short’ vaccine testing period?

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 19, 2021 5:00 PM
Reply to  Maribel Tuff

it is bs. just a rehash of measles “deadly shadow”. if it isn’t getting better it could be because it is cell phone radiation.
https://www.princeton.edu/news/2015/05/07/deadly-shadow-measles-may-weaken-immune-system-three-years
https://www.tetyanaobukhanych.com/blog/should-you-be-afraid-that-measles-gives-you-immune-amnesia

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 19, 2021 11:53 PM
Reply to  Maribel Tuff

Yahoo and Google email servers are still censoring my emails when I include links to off guardian. Fuck you NSA. This phrase is pretty much standard in all of my communications. Thank you off-guardian.org for that. I warn my friends in phone calls in advance and that is the standard response. It is actually very funny. Even without anti psychotics. And no, I am not on them yet. Maybe that’s how they will get the Right to conform. Include a free unlimited supply of anti psychotics if you get the vaccine.

Meeb
Meeb
Jan 19, 2021 12:24 PM

Meanwhile, the supremacist Bill Gates, and Woody Allen impersonator, is now the largest landholder of farmland in the US. COVID lemmings, feel stupid yet?

October
October
Jan 19, 2021 12:29 PM
Reply to  Meeb

This looks like the first step towards the you-own-nothing age.

Maribel Tuff
Maribel Tuff
Jan 19, 2021 1:35 PM
Reply to  Meeb

If I believed Bill gates was responsible for all this, I would feel stupid

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 19, 2021 11:56 PM
Reply to  Meeb

He can only think in terms of ones and zeros. He is being coached. Just like AOC.

Sally Getty
Sally Getty
Jan 19, 2021 11:58 AM

I think we should all be on the guardian every day fighting the NSA trolls there, who lie & propagandise on the comments pages to shut down the British economy to help their Amazon and Google.

On the subject of vaccinations and ‘long covid’ in the guardian yesterday:

(Guardian shill):”Vaccination could prevent literally thousands of unnecessary complications and deaths ”

(Me): You have no evidence at all for that comment do you?

Of course my account was quickly closed after that discussion. I get through one account per hour, normally.
In the same why that the liars of the MSM claimed they have evidence that Global warming was proven. Ask the NSA trolls in the guardian to prove what they say. Prove it! Because They can’t. They have no evidence for many of their claims. Where is the proof that the pfizer vaccine will stop ‘Long covid’ & where is the proof that ‘Long covid’ is even a thing ? They have speculation but no proof. none.

Winston Jeff
Winston Jeff
Jan 19, 2021 11:43 AM

‘’It is by agriculture and control of the food supply that American diplomacy has been able to control most of the Third World. ‘’

Well said Mr Hudson. Lets all grow up now and stop shouting at the moon, claiming that it is Capitalism or ‘Globalalist’ who are the problem. The problem is ‘he who must not be named’ by the MSM: The once great US Empire. So lets all stop fucking around with nonsense and be wary of the Empire, in its final death-rattle, as it lashes-out and perhaps murders millions in it’s desperation to survive and stall its inevitable collapse.

Ben
Ben
Jan 19, 2021 11:10 AM

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Health has become a political war zone

Do we have a choice over the treatment we receive?

Does mainstream media fearmongering invalidate consent?
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gordan
gordan
Jan 19, 2021 10:33 AM

near all here
are lost
all at sea
see
a person bonded at birth
chatttel
enslaved property
owned under vatican
in legal ledger
pope ish bull
in rome and the district of columbia

your mother consented
your mother was informant
look on your birth certificate
informed
nurse took blood from you hand or foot mark
docked birthed by doc
signed and sealed
delivered.

you may down vote
from birth you have been in a gordian knot
getting ever tighter

your signature is the most valuable thing you have
worth a kings ransom
yet you trade it for pizza fries and coke.

what if you are not a person
what if you are not bonded traded goods

who are you really
eyes that cannot sea the admiralty
do you understand

ohhh whatever

Meeb
Meeb
Jan 19, 2021 12:26 PM
Reply to  gordan

Isra-evil, not the Vatican or Washington.

gordan
gordan
Jan 19, 2021 12:57 PM
Reply to  Meeb

who built knesset who is banker for queen bank of england and vatican
is ra hell is muscle tip of spear bag man
corrective tool for control and terror
death collector
collector of ‘Cestui Que Vie’ (CQV) BIRTH CERTIFICATE TRUST accounts
by the billion

Maribel Tuff
Maribel Tuff
Jan 19, 2021 1:56 PM
Reply to  gordan

”….collector of ‘Cestui Que Vie’ (CQV) BIRTH CERTIFICATE TRUST accounts by the billion”

Rasputin or is it Elvis?

Maribel Tuff
Maribel Tuff
Jan 19, 2021 1:55 PM
Reply to  Meeb

not the Vatican or Washington.”

Protecting the biggest military empire in history, like they were unimportant, with a known murderous past….. are we? Deep state troll much?

gordan
gordan
Jan 19, 2021 2:08 PM
Reply to  Maribel Tuff

elvis poor soul probably girl
rasputin killed by the caanaanite khazars bolsheviks or sum such

mockery you give pollute the well

satanick
your weakness cover of darkness
all you have is lies deception bamboozle
the truth of the cohen is inversion

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 19, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  gordan

Hello gordon: I’ve been enjoying your “poems”. Thanks! I sometimes wonder how many OffGuardian readers know what you’re referring to… >

Excerpted from: Stop The Pirates: History of Trusts
 
Since 1933, when a child is borne in a State (Estate) under inferior Roman law, three (3) Cestui Que (Vie) Trusts are created upon certain presumptions specifically designed to deny, forever, the child any rights of Real Property, any Rights to be free, and any Rights to be known as man or woman, rather than a creature or animal, by claiming and possessing their Soul or Spirit.

It is helpful to read the Complete text:  
http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/2014/03/history-of-trusts.html

gordan
gordan
Jan 19, 2021 3:55 PM

virtual
virtually none

the words are algo deleted
passed or memory holed
some slaves are allowed 2 sea
many gordian knot

whiskey galore
wizard oz

i moved my curse er today
eye spell checked
my spelling
so it would cast well
alas
2 know avail

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jan 19, 2021 10:19 AM

The evidence is overwhelming that units of 1000sqm of active growing area, managed organically and with attention to agroecological principles, can provide > 100 tonnes/ha in a totally sustainable manner.

The key elements are:

  1. Effective compost production and application as a mulch in late autumn/winter.
  2. Allowing soil structure to be developed by worms, not by forks or other forms of soil disturbance (which destroys fungal networks each and every year).
  3. Using high-quality seed sourced from reputable ethical organic/Demeter suppliers.
  4. Sowing many seeds in module trays, thereby allowing season extension and more crops per season to be sequentially harvested.

This does require human inputs but it is one choice in how to gainfully employ many people in future, choosing an organic approach of millions of self-sufficient market gardeners rather than superfarms using robots and large machinery.

Such approaches benefit from cooperative arrangements between animal farmers (who produce inordinate amounts of animal manure) and the market gardening community, who will see such manure as prime raw materials for compost production.

There are also organic rationales for cooperation between orchadists and animal farmers too, for different reasons.

A second approach involves the creation of forest gardens, which after a gestation period of perhaps one generation can provide sustainable nutrition without any labour inputs required on a full-time basis (merely a period each year of maintaining the biodiversity and identifying any problems).

That approach is still at an earlier stage in terms of how easy it is to roll it out on larger scales (since the people rolling it out will need other sources of income whilst such forests are being grown to maturity). It is particularly suited to intergenerational farming families who have land they can put aside for such approaches, either for themselves or through making agreements with tenant farmers for the use of their land.

The forest garden approach focusses more on tree and bush-based crops rather than annual vegetables. It thus includes far more fruits, nuts, berries.

Every nation will have to decide for itself what suits its own climates and geographies best. What will work best in Scotland will undoubtedly not be the best approach in India…

There are doubtless yet more approaches to be discussed.

The point is that machines are a human choice, they are not a There Is No Alternative.

Sunface
Sunface
Jan 19, 2021 2:01 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

No, Organic is a fashion stament.It is unaffordable for most people.
Its has a similar ring to it like “Renewable and Green” drive
It’s the same as wearing an embroidered mask.
The follow-on from “Organic” is Vegan.

Not all of the population are not the cause of the destruction of the enviroment. Yes, we have all may have played some part. The biggist culprits are the gigantic corporations who are responsible for the bulk of pollution and poisoning of the enviroment. Its their production processes and techniques and products that are largley to blame. But the middle class and poor are blamed becasue we are the easiest to target. We don’t have the financial means of defending against the media onslaught placing the blame on us.

Many have been sold the idea by MSM who are brainwashing all with the help of propaganda of controlling major academic institutions. Many don’t realise that Academia, are propped up by media are financed by the corporations and mostly owned by the ruling class. They the ruling class are the drivers of the agenda. Its is the agenda of the “Elite” under the guise of “sustainability” and “redistribution” of property and wealth of others that is foremost on their minds.

We also happen to also be part of the enviroment. The Elites & supporter oligarchs and clerisy don’t like the idea of having to share with the deplorables.

The ultra-green political policies are particularly favored by the clericy and their oligarchal allies in particular. They are excluded from most of the hardship imposed, because of their status and their financial ability to endure manu and most of the imposed punitive measures
.
Its the Crony Capitalists and their Corporations with their “Political Connections” in Government who are drving the policies on their behalf of the Elite.

“The chasm between the yeomanry and the clerisy also extends to broader issues too. For the most part, the yeomanry favor local authority over more distant rule, while the clerisy favors the opposite. The struggle between the two middle classes is not just a matter of wealth and power, but also of retaining the social basis for democracy itself. Without a strong, independent middle class operating outside the control of large institutions, be they tech giants or governments, we may be heading towards a technocratic future, that as one Silicon Valley wag put it, resembles “feudalism with better marketing.” excerpted from quillette the-two-middle-classes/

The technocratic future is here and playig out. It is more like a Techcnocratic dictatorship.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 19, 2021 5:24 PM
Reply to  Sunface

unaffordable? you don’t sound very middle class.

Ben
Ben
Jan 20, 2021 12:11 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Some people cannot afford $140 per week. These out of touch, self-righteous, virtue-signalling vegans embarrass themselves

Sunface
Sunface
Jan 21, 2021 3:12 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Thats a very arrogant statement don’t you think? Don’t just think about yourself, there are others who may not be as lucky as you.

fame
fame
Jan 19, 2021 6:25 PM
Reply to  Sunface

I agree with your premise that organic is now a fashion statement. The organics programs have been largely co-opted by big ag. The organic rules are written by and for big ag. Most of what you can buy in any type of chain store organic retailer is big ag. The rules are written against small producers and the rules suggest to farmers to follow a corporate type business model in approach to farming. The big ag organic farms are not much different than conventional farms. Monocropping, spraying of organically approved pesticides and herbicides (look into these cides, some of which are genetically engineered and/or carcinogenic and you will find many are produced by the same companies that produce the chemical ones), and use of organic mined nitrates— which make those organic greens look so nice, but are unhealthy for consumption— are but a few of the ecologically damaging methods of corporate big ag.

Get to know or become, if possible, a small farmer(s) in your area, preferably those whose methods create biodiversity and are non-toxic. I know many poor working people who purchase from these small unsubsidized farmers. Its not about a fashion statement with many. Its about establishing relationships.

Honey Potter
Honey Potter
Jan 19, 2021 9:49 PM
Reply to  Sunface

You don’t need to eat meat more than once a week unless you live in an extremely cold place, and you do not need dairy products at all- in fact cow dairy products are downright bad for you. Giving children cow’s milk in the belief it’s good for them is one of the many tragic mistakes of euro-american cow culture. Vast tracts of woodlands and jungle have been removed to turn them into cow fields for the meat and dairy industry. This is a criminal abuse of the planet.

I am not vegetarian or vegan because I know human biengs are omnivores, and I think a vegan diet is only OK for a few people with certain metabolisms, body type and health issues – but I believe most of those online complaining about vegans are people who eat too much meat, as a lifestyle, including people who enjoy hunting wild animals not because they need food but so they can feel like alpha males and compensate for their lack of real manhood.

There is a reason spiritual traditions the world over have certain rules about eating meat. Too much turns you into a meathead and is unhealthy.

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 20, 2021 12:01 AM
Reply to  Honey Potter

Fuck

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 20, 2021 3:47 PM
Reply to  Honey Potter

Follow the local traditions that arose “organically” instead of worshipping the global culture preached via TV/video etc. Some peoples depend heavily on meat, milk, etc. Their other foods, practices or even the weather compensate.

Sunface
Sunface
Jan 21, 2021 3:20 PM
Reply to  Honey Potter

Life is not only about need. Its also about enjoyment.You seem to like to be a bit of a virtue signaller.
Let me apply your logic if I may. To many vegatables turn you into a pumpkinhead/cabbagehead.
On Milk, I think you are uninformed. Raw milk is very good for you, Not that kind that you buy in a shop, the real deal unpasturised raw full cream. You should look into it and find out where and why pasturisation came about.

NickM
NickM
Jan 19, 2021 4:02 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

@Rhys Jagger: “can provide > 100 tonnes/ha in a totally sustainable manner.”

The average person eats, say, 1 ton per year. So, a farm of size 1km by 1km (100 hectares) could feed a kibbutz (community) of 1000 people for ever. Supposing it took, say 20 people to work the farm, that would leave the remaining 980 to engage in services (clothing, housing, education, health, bureau) and revenue earning activities. Turning fresh produce into money has always been the weak point of agrarian societies. Hence the kibbutzim in Israel branched out into factories and shopping centres. What held the kibbutz together was the concept of ‘bund’ (bonding, binding) ie, sharing everything. Some of the kibbutzim were quite small, and the biggest one held some 3,000 souls on some tens of sq km mixed land.

Sunface
Sunface
Jan 21, 2021 3:27 PM
Reply to  NickM

No Kibbuts (collective) is a form of communism.

However medium or average farms are normally 1 640 to 2000 hectares and bigger cannot be economically viable organially. Little plots as we call them are 100 hectares and suit subsitance and organics.

Esmeralda
Esmeralda
Jan 19, 2021 6:02 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Have you studied Permaculture design Rhys? The principles align completely with what you’ve written.

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 20, 2021 12:00 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Ten thousand years later and voila. New soil.

NickM
NickM
Jan 20, 2021 7:58 AM

“Ten thousand years is but the blink in the eye of God” — Old Testament

“A man who thinks a thousand years ahead educates a child” — Chinese Proverb

“I can’t wait that long, I only got one change of clothes” — Jimmy Durante

https://youtu.be/C033PxONCBk?t=2

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 20, 2021 6:08 PM
Reply to  NickM

The current glaciers began melting back 12,000 years ago but yet, most people today think our use of fossil fuels caused it. It took that long for the most fertile soils in the world to develop. Most of these soils are now gone and it will take another 12,000 years in the absence of people, for them to restore themselves. As you were saying……

NickM
NickM
Jan 21, 2021 4:55 AM

@Wayne V: “Most of these soils are now gone and it will take another 12,000 years in the absence of people, for them to restore themselves.”

“in the absence of people”. I think the point of the present thread on Eco-Agriculture is: people can learn (and have learnt in the pre-industrial past) to preserve the best soil. When our universities have set up courses in Eco-Agriculture and Eco-Engineering their graduates could develope ways to generate the best soils in the world, working alongside Nature rather than against her. Patience is a virtue.

“A young man in a hurry is out to make trouble” — Confucius

NickM
NickM
Jan 21, 2021 12:59 PM
Reply to  NickM

PS Re: “The answer’s in the soil”.

In the 1950s I would hear jokes like these:

U$A: “Don’t you try teach me about farming, I’ve worn out four farms”.

R$A: Dad and Little Audrey went up in a plane. Dad said, “Look down, Little Audrey, and see the virgin soil of Africa!” But Little Audrey laughed and laughed because she know what the farmers were doing to the soil.

But now, instead of cynical resignation there is a new voice and a new word, Agroecology, saying, “We can do better than that”.

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 26, 2021 6:05 PM
Reply to  NickM

Point being: It is too late. The soil is gone. We would need to “rest” the ag fields for another 12,000 years to build the soil up to where it was. With the amount of “junk” we add to the soil to make it grow stuff, we might as well use hydroponics instead. Then, we can control the gasses at the same time. And this all could be done while resting the soils by restoring the hydrology and converting them back into natural areas. Once that happens, it will be such a haven that people will never want to farm them again. There is the problem of the next ice age that will wipe out those efforts…. Sorry. I should not have quit drinking…. I blinked. Now what.

A MUST READ
A MUST READ
Jan 19, 2021 9:46 AM

THE AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL REPORTS
INTO COVID-19 AND CARE HOMES.

A must read.

The Department of Health and Social Care…. adopted a policy,… that led to 25,000 patients, including those (known to be) infected (with Covid-19, and also those who were) possibly infected with Covid-19 (as they) had not been tested, being discharged from hospital into care homes between 17 March and 15 April—exponentially increasing the risk of transmission to the very population most at risk of severe illness and death from the disease. (This, while being denied) access to testing, (being denied) personal protective equipment, (while having) insufficient staff, and limited (and confusing) guidance.

(As expected) care homes were overwhelmed.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1184

Maribel Tuff
Maribel Tuff
Jan 19, 2021 1:59 PM
Reply to  A MUST READ

I think care homes have lost their allure suddenly, and I think that will be permanent.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Jan 19, 2021 5:53 PM
Reply to  Maribel Tuff

I think hotels are also screwed.

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Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Jan 20, 2021 12:05 AM
Reply to  Maribel Tuff

When my time comes I will disappear into the sunset with my Kavorkian elixar in hand.