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Lockdowns are a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy

“Non-pharmaceutical” interventions do not work, and are doing far more harm than good

Daniel Jeanmonod MD

I have chosen to write this text in addition to our two earlier contributions because of the development of the “second wave” which came afterward, and in reaction to the current relentless accumulation of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs, also called corona, “social” or lockdown measures).

These are characterized by separation/isolation of human beings through the application of masks, distance maintenance between people, stay-at-home orders and business closures.

An important study in Frontiers in Public Health on the data delivered by 160 countries has found no correlation between death rate and stringency of lockdown measures[1].

Another study showed no significant benefits of stay-at-home order and business closure on epidemic case growth[2].

The following two examples confirm these results: a country with low lockdown stringency like Sweden has at the moment the same fatality rate per million inhabitants as France, but lower than Spain, Italy and UK, where severe lockdown measures were applied.

In addition, Sweden has had for the second wave a much smaller excess mortality than France, Italy or Spain, an observation which allows one to suspect that lockdown measures are delaying the establishment of herd immunity. This is not desirable, as the time during which the old, sick and frail can be exposed to the virus gets longer.

As NPIs are imposed in an overloaded ambiance of viral threat, they are additionally in position to activate destructive neuro-immunological mechanisms as well as to trigger secondary deleterious psycho-social, medical and economic developments5. Both have a direct effect on population mortality.

Analyses indicate that at least a third, and possibly more than half, of the observed excess mortality may be caused by the applied measures[3][4]. Measure-based mortality will proceed and may even accelerate if the fear-mongering stays and no end to the nightmare is presented to a now chronically overloaded population.

We are in the typical context of a “self-fulfilling prophecy”, where, through neuro-immunological overresponses, physical immobilization, social isolation and socio-economic difficulties, the death toll gets maximized and the expected death prophecy confirmed.

This requires then the maintenance and even increase of measures, and explains why people questioning their necessity are swiftly qualified as fools, idiots, conspiracy theorists or even murderers (heartlessly risking lives).

For almost a year, cultivated virus hysteria has fuelled the belief in a necessity to suppress “Covid19”.

Epidemiological models, revealed regularly as strongly pessimistic, justify preemptive NPIs even if collected data show positive reassuring evolutions. These measures are presented as unavoidable parts of the fight to be held, and are applied relentlessly without questioning their efficiency (see reference [1]), and without considering, as mentioned above, their lethality.

PCR tests are enacted for the whole population, with their extreme sensitivity and false positives5, maintaining in the population the awareness of the dreadful presence of the virus. The fact that a large percentage (88% in Italy) of deaths happened in the presence of corona (but not due to corona) in the context of end-of-life situations is not considered.

Science moves on to find new threat markers, like the reproduction factor R and recently the rise of mutated virus variants. Thoughts and emotions remain focalized on covid-19 and its threat, taken out of the regular context of the normal human/virus interactions.

For example, tests of corona presence have never been performed before to establish what normality is along the year, and variants can be seen as the logical and usual answer of viruses to the development of human herd immunity.

In our county of Solothurn in Switzerland, 2,662 deaths have been reported for 2020[5], among which 219 were attributed to covid-19 and of these 211 were living in nursing homes[6]. Median age of covid-19 death in Switzerland is 86 years old[7], and the rate of significant premorbidities is very high (97% with at least one premorbidity).

Switzerland, in spite of a clear-cut “second wave”, has experienced no excess mortality for ages below 65, and even for 70 and above, a correction for the increasing size of this old age group shows no excess mortality for 2020[4], and a lower mortality in 2020 than in 2012, 2013 and 20156. Finally, for the whole swiss population, the total death rate per 100,000 inhabitants was the same in 2003 and even higher in 2000[8].

Where do we find, here and around the world, any motivation and necessity to limit the professional and social activities of a whole population for now almost a year?

Should we have locked populations in the past during former flu epidemics? Obviously no.

Shall we have to do that in the future? How long can our human environment resist such heavy, deleterious and questionable measures? And when shall the people of the world get their basic human rights and freedom back?

Of course, fear takes the best out of us, and nobody is to blame for damages produced unwillingly and under the pressure of fear.

There is, alas, no doubt about the following fact: modern, technological medicine often lacks the compassionate therapeutic dimension one expects from it, and presents the unpleasant tendency to promote huge profits through drugs and medical-technical products, with less than appropriate up to fraudulent practices[9][10]

Fraud resides in the highest levels, as exemplified by the recent withdrawal of a fraudulent article from the famous journal the Lancet[11]. This article claimed wrongly the inefficiency and dangers of a plant-based, well known, efficient and inexpensive medication.

A proper decision and information strategy in the corona crisis would have been to open the scientific, political and public debate to different views, with the goal to come up together to a balanced, consensual program, in which nobody is right or wrong and all agree to have worked together on the best possible solutions.

It is extremely counterproductive and dogmatic to promote the exclusive value of the dominant view, proposed by governments and their scientific task forces and widely distributed by the media. Other views are being seen as unacceptable, not-an-option, or even ethically wrong.

Why propagate the idea the whole world needs to be vaccinated against covid-19 in the context of the above-mentioned epidemic data? What of the recent confirmation, published by the WHO and authored by Dr. Ioannidis[12], of a general average case fatality ratio of 0.23% (analyzed from 61 studies), in the range of a flu epidemic?

In addition, to the contrary of what the WHO has proposed recently, we may strongly consider that the natural herd immunization process, established by life processes along millennia, and non-dangerous for the immense majority of the active population below 65, will be more efficient than any vaccination.

Finally, the essential role of physical and emotional health as protections against severe infectious developments has been dramatically ignored in favour of medical technical interventions, precipitating many human beings into severe disease evolutions by physical inactivity and social isolation.

Our governments should contribute to protect without coercion the old, sick and frail and free the rest of the population from all general NPIs. We have all learned what to do in winter with our old and frail parents, who particularly need our presence and can decide for themselves what they prefer: state-imposed protection, or an evening to their life surrounded by their beloved ones.

Numerous human beings have died these last months in appalling physical and emotional conditions, immobilized in their rooms and isolated from families and friends. This has lasted long enough and should be considered as inhumane and stopped. The Great Barrington Declaration enacts the reduction of measures to “focal” protection. It was proposed by 3 epidemiologists from Harvard, Stanford and Oxford and has collected more than 50,000 signatures from medical and public health scientists and medical practitioners as well as from more than 700,000 concerned citizens.

The people need to regain their democratic rights and freedom of decision without delay.

With courage and scientific data at hand, we should stop hiding away from the virus on the order of our governments. We should trust nature that things will balance back to normal, instead of tampering chaotically and arrogantly with the natural dynamics regulating the human/virus interactions.

The relentless, never-ending confinement measures have led to the appearance of a host of absurd, even pathetic measures and situations, with some citizens wearing masks alone in their own cars, or jogging masked and alone in the countryside…I have heard many people around me wonder if they were not in a nightmare or a bad movie.

We need to wake up and work to fix this.

Daniel Jeanmonod MD, Professor Emeritus of Neurosurgery at Zürich University and Physiology & Neuroscience at New York University.

References

[1] De Larochelambert Q. et al. Covid-19 mortality: a matter of vulnerability among nations facing limited margins of adaptation. Frontiers in Public Health (2020) [back].

[2] Bendavid E. et al. Assessing mandatory stay-at-home and business closure effects on the spread of Covid-19. European Journal of Clinical Investigation doi: 10.1111/ECI.13484 (2021) [back].

[3] Covid-19 – Infektionslage, Belastung der Spitäler in der Schweiz KW 50. Situationsanalyse, Reflexion, Lösungsansätze. https://aletheia-scimed.ch (2020).[back].

[4] Beck K. Corona in der Schweiz. Plädoyer für eine Evidenzbasierte Pandemie-Politik. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqNfvX–zY [back].

[5] Bundesamt für Statistik (14.1.2021), www.bfs.admin.ch [back].

[6] Kanton Solothurn, Departement des Inneren. Wöchentlicher Situationsbericht (11.1.2021)[back].

[7] Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft, Coronavirus-Krankheit-2019 (COVID-19), Eidgenössisches Departement des Innern EDI, Bundesamt für Gesundheit BAG, Situationsbericht zur epidemiologischen Lage in der Schweiz und im Fürstentum Liechtenstein – Woche 3 (18. – 24.01.2021). https://ww.bag.admin.ch [back].

[8] K-Tipp Nr. 1: Grippe war für ältere stets eine Gefahr. (13 Januar 2021) [back].

[9] Götzsche P.C. Tödliche Medizin und organisierte Kriminalität. Rivaverlag.de (2020) [back].

[10] Angell M. The truth about the drug companies: How they deceive us and what to do about it (2005) [back].

[11] Mehra M.R. Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis. The Lancet (2020) [back].

[12] Ioannidis J.P.A. Infection fatality rate of Covid-19 inferred from seroprevalence data. Bulletin of the World Health Organization (14 October 2020) [back].

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Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 17, 2021 9:24 AM

Dr. Thomas Binder, MD says the Covid cult need to be psychiatrically detained immediately because of danger to others:
“Any chimpanzee with average education realises that our governments are totally insane at best, seriously criminal at worst, must be psychiatrically detained immediately because of danger to others, and then prosecuted when appropriate. So become brave, dear fellow humans!”
“As a responsible Swiss doctor, it is my duty to keep the obviously insane Swiss Federal Council in a closed psychiatric ward by means of involuntary commitment because of dangerousness to the public. I only need a few more policemen to support me in this.”
https://twitter.com/Thomas_Binder/status/1359150117962600456

Mike
Mike
Feb 16, 2021 7:23 PM

More and more are seeing the giant pink elephant in the room.

God work off guardian

rjd
rjd
Feb 16, 2021 4:52 PM

excellent! share with everyone.

TFS
TFS
Feb 15, 2021 11:26 AM

On the subject of Covid, and the purchase of software to ‘monitor the potential large amount of adverse effects’….

Has anyone had any visibility on the output from such software?

I would have expected the figures to be included in information sent to parliament and the public on a regular basis?

Graham Rollo Rawlings
Graham Rollo Rawlings
Feb 14, 2021 11:36 AM

Yup. !
Though they are not democratic rights which are being withheld, they are birthrights which are being infringed, trespassed upon, denied. Far worse.

jimbo
jimbo
Feb 14, 2021 3:29 AM

Facts the PharmaCom Billionaire MSM Fear Machine don’t discuss. Ahem. Get a grip sheeple.   Diarrheal diseases are one of the biggest killers of children worldwide In 2017, almost 1.6 million people died from diarrheal diseases globally.   https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria   This is more than all deaths from all ‘intentional injuries’ combined in the same year: almost 800,000 died from suicide, 405,000 from homicide, 130,000 in conflict, and 26,500 from terrorism – in total 1,355,000.   https://www.asirt.org/safe-travel/road-safety-facts/   https://www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com/home/topics/gi-illness/diarrhea-remains-leading-cause-of-global-mortality-and-morbidity/   Malaria is a life-threatening disease caused by parasites that are transmitted to people through the bites of infected female Anopheles mosquitoes. It is preventable and curable. In 2019, there were an estimated 229 million cases of malaria worldwide. The estimated number of malaria deaths stood at 409 000 in 2019. Children aged under 5 years are the most vulnerable group affected by malaria; in 2019, they accounted for 67% (274 000)… Read more »

Waldorf
Waldorf
Feb 15, 2021 5:36 PM
Reply to  jimbo

It was first described in Spain, which was neutral in WW1 and its newspapers wrote about it freely. In 1918, far from panicking about it, newspapers in warring countries censored most mention of it as it was not exactly a morale boost to have pestilence as well as war. Only with the war over was the censorship lifted. By then it was associated with Spain.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Feb 16, 2021 2:31 PM
Reply to  jimbo

Hello Jimbo: Bravo and right on!!! ‘People did those things.’ 100 up votes.

artgrafiken
artgrafiken
Feb 14, 2021 1:27 AM

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Russ
Russ
Feb 14, 2021 4:33 AM
Reply to  artgrafiken

The only difference being that the maskochists are self-imprisoned.

(Their self-enslavement to the gadgets is just as symptomatic and pathological as the face diapers.)

RJG71
RJG71
Feb 28, 2021 5:25 PM
Reply to  artgrafiken

I made the comparison to Guantanamo when they started opening up “quarantine” facilities last year. Since then many of us have been forced into similar costuming in order to be allowed to move along in public. Only question I have for right wingers complaining about the loss of liberty in the aftermath of the Covid Coup, is where were you on Guantanamo? Let authority treat so call “foreign terrorists” like this and eventually they will attempt to do the same to almost everybody else.

ovonovo
ovonovo
Feb 13, 2021 9:57 PM

Three new words for the lexicon:

Vaxcist
Vaxcism
Vaxcistic

Please use them whenever you can.

And how about replacing “jab” with “stab“? Because that’s what it is.

jimbo
jimbo
Feb 14, 2021 3:19 AM
Reply to  ovonovo

How bout:

Vax Nazis

David
David
Feb 14, 2021 12:44 PM
Reply to  ovonovo

Or what I use to say no to the jab – a vaxcuse

Marsel
Marsel
Feb 13, 2021 3:14 PM

I agree: the lockdowns don’t work. But only because we haven’t done this properly. If you are chased up a tree by a hungry lion and are fortunate enough to reach a branch beyond his reach – what should you do and when do you decide to climb back down? Providing the lion can’t reach you – you stay very still and don’t move. If he can’t climb the tree, all you have to do is be patient and eventually the lion will head off elsewhere in search of a meal. When you are absolutely certain the lion has gone, it’s safe to climb down and go home. What you absolutely don’t do is annoy it by poking it with sticks or throwing twigs down. That just makes him mad. Neither do you attempt to climb down when he’s sleeping. The only way you survive the experience, is by being… Read more »

Mark
Mark
Feb 13, 2021 5:46 PM
Reply to  Marsel

Is that you Klaus?

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer
Feb 13, 2021 6:09 PM
Reply to  Marsel

It’s not the lion we need to fear ………. it’s the sheep.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 7:20 PM
Reply to  Marsel

Holy shit you wrote a lot considering how meaningless and false it is. I read about 3 sentences, btw.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 13, 2021 8:22 PM
Reply to  Marsel

I’d be more worried about the Tiger if I were you.

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 13, 2021 9:19 PM
Reply to  Marsel

I suggest we can eliminate the virus easily if we simply did this properly – and Britain can be Covid-free by early summer. We were “covid free” by last summer. https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-pcr-false-positive-pseudo-epidemic/ “In Spring 2020 a novel coronavirus swept across the world: novel, but related to other viruses. In the UK, unknown at the time, around 50% of the population were already immune. The evidence for this is unequivocal and arose due to prior infection by common cold-causing coronaviruses (of which four are endemic). This prior immunity has been confirmed around the world by top cellular immunologists. There is even a very recent paper from Public Health England on the topic of prior immunity and a wealth of other evidence from studies on memory T-cells, studies on household transmission and on antibodies. Because of the extent of the prior immunity, and as a result of heterogeneity of contacts, once only a… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 14, 2021 6:22 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Immunity was against flu variants. When the attempt to increase deaths by withholding medical service failed, all flu cases and deaths got re-labelled covid.

As for the “top cellular immunologists”, has any of them commented on the earth-shaking disappearance of flu of all varieties?

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Feb 15, 2021 2:54 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You don’t have a ‘herd of people’ you have a ‘population of people’

Just like you don’t have a ‘school of wolves’ , you have a ‘pack of wolves’…

DEHUMANISING LANGUAGE SUCH AS USING ‘HERD’ WHEN RELATING TO HUMANS IS INAPPROPRIATE, WRONG AND MANIPULATIVE WORD SHIFTING TO ALTER AND CONFINE PERCEPTION.

My sheep told me that. She always speaks in upper case.

Blessed PickAxe
Blessed PickAxe
Feb 13, 2021 11:03 PM
Reply to  Marsel

There is a more effective solution to the contagion/no immunity problem : suicide.

Post Hoc
Post Hoc
Feb 14, 2021 2:53 AM
Reply to  Marsel

Now I have another rash and a fever 😢😢

MaryLS
MaryLS
Feb 14, 2021 3:12 AM
Reply to  Marsel

A virus will run its course. Lockdown, and it will just take longer to move through the population. Your post is based on magical thinking. Insanity. People have a natural ability to resist viruses, so why are we hiding?

Marsel
Marsel
Feb 14, 2021 11:31 PM
Reply to  Marsel

Always intriguing to challenge belief systems, particularly those governed by cynicism and insecurity. Goodness, have you no faith in yourselves never mind others?

You hold the answer – more than any politician or expert – yet you consume your time with their retrospective conjecture and it inhibits your perspective considerably. Let’s all blame each other – it feels better that way.

Don’t solve anything though. Goodnight.

Aethelred
Aethelred
Feb 15, 2021 11:15 AM
Reply to  Marsel

This lion you mention is no more than a house cat, dangerous only to mice. Get a grip and turn off your television.

Marsel
Marsel
Feb 15, 2021 5:23 PM
Reply to  Aethelred

I’ve had several friends die from the complications of this virus – all were fit and healthy with no underlying conditions – one climbed Everest and Lhotse two years ago. Not mice, idiot.

Wilson3802
Wilson3802
Feb 13, 2021 1:25 PM

“Lockdown” is a prison term. All prisoners remaiin locked in their cells.
Schools now announce “Early Release”–another prison term–when children get out of school earlier than the mandated time. Control of society continues shifting toward total control in the hands of mentally-unstable, domineering people.

craigums
craigums
Feb 13, 2021 8:09 PM
Reply to  Wilson3802

Alex Jones coined the title “PrisonPlanet” a couple decades ago…

Waldorf
Waldorf
Feb 16, 2021 4:31 PM
Reply to  Wilson3802

I have never believed these word choices were accidental.

Quick Draw
Quick Draw
Feb 13, 2021 1:18 PM

It seems even educated men like Dr. Jeanmonod still do not understand. The psychotic people in charge know everything about lockdowns and the harm they cause–that is why they are doing them. These same people know this is a relatively harmless virus (if it is even real) but they still institute draconian measures. They know the western vaccines are dangerous medical experimentation but push for them. This is the first time in my memory when I have seen so much factual and verifiable counter-narrative to the line being pushed by our controllers and it has absolutely zero effect. These evil people are all in and will not back down.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 13, 2021 9:09 PM
Reply to  Quick Draw

They are bluffing. They wern’t even dealt any cards.

NickM
NickM
Feb 13, 2021 10:55 AM

I tack this clip from today’s Saker BTL onto the present thread because it is more relevant here than it was on the Saker thread which is about Diplomacy: Matias wrote on February 13, 2021 · at 1:52 am EST/EDT Let’s not forget excess deaths of 2020. Almost 500,000 in US. Around 320,000 in Russia. Around 100,000 in UK and Italy both. Reasons are what they are (direct or indirect of pandemia). Maths never lied, explanations did. To which Mike replied on February 13, 2021 · at 3:08 am EST/EDT Not all countries have excess deaths Also consider due to the restrictions because of Corona many die because they won’t get necessary operations and treatments Also suicide rates went up significantly You can not trust anything that comes from government or the media liars Maths don’t lie… But governments and media lie to the bones and Dr. NG Maroudas added on February 13, 2021 · at… Read more »

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 7:22 PM
Reply to  NickM

Absolutely not. EVER. That is still industrial totalitarianism, still part of the hegelian dialectic.

You are DELUSIONAL if you think that garbage is worth supporting.

Janice Faye Sheringham
Janice Faye Sheringham
Feb 13, 2021 6:31 AM

May I play devil’s advocate here for just a moment? What the author ignores (apart from the suppression of some possible therapeutics whose usefulness has been discounted badly) is the excessively high rate of hospitalisations, prolonged length of stay and high intensive care utilisation by the seriously afflicted? This suppression of normal healthcare activity, the high resource use required to care for these patients and the flow-on effects on the staff who care for them at significant risk to their own health must not be ignored nor even minimised! Data from Ontario recently published clearly showed the much higher rate of hospitalisations due to CoVid vs influenza by 3.5 times, the 1.5 times rate of ICU admissions using the same comparator, and likewise for deaths! the added factor here is that these admissions have persisted far longer than those for seasonal influenza everywhere there have been serious outbreaks, and the… Read more »

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Feb 13, 2021 6:51 AM

The problem with all of that is the PCR;s are not valid so the whole pandemic is fake.

Russ
Russ
Feb 13, 2021 7:38 AM

“Eliminating severe disease, associated as it is with protracted illness, must now become our world-wide endeavour.” That sums up your entire Dominionist theological delusion. You wingnuts really think you’re in a war of Man vs. Nature (as you call it, “the enemy”), and that it’s either possible or desirable to win such an ecocidal, collectively suicidal war. Only depraved believers in this theology ever could have thought from the start that Covid “interventions” could do anything but drag out the inevitable while adding many artificial evils along the way. As we’re already seeing, that applies to mass deployment of gene-engineering injections (“vaccines”) as well. And who, praytell, could be trusted to be in charge of “our” endeavor against the Gaian “enemy”? Western governments, Big Pharma, the imperial media and academia, technocratic NGOs? We already knew prior to 2020 these all are mortal enemies of humanity and the Earth, and that… Read more »

Mark
Mark
Feb 13, 2021 5:51 PM
Reply to  Russ

Covidians are like that

Russ
Russ
Feb 13, 2021 7:43 AM

Of course the one thing you can do to eliminate much of the worst disease, including the likes of Covid however mild it objectively is, is to stop engineering such diseases in your bioweapons labs and shut those labs down completely.

Yet the institutions you want to command “us” in your War on Nature are the same that established and maintain those labs and which release the pathogens engineered there.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 10:07 AM
Reply to  Russ

The idea of Covid (though engineered) isn’t anything other than mental persuasion. “Viruses” do not exist as claimed, do not function or transmit as claimed, that simple.

Believing that shit means you ARE coopted in the “war on nature” as those fallacies were precisely established by those resource monopolists and assholes demonizing and waging war on nature.

The actual dangers and damage is from the policy.

It’s just the way the PRS cycle works.

  1. Engineered imaginary problem, misidentified, misattributed.
  2. Engineered reaction (censorship, bullshit narrative, etc).
  3. Engineered “solution”, the problem far worse than the supposed problem being addressed.

If you even just understand that, you can go apply it to practically any supposed “crisis” govt tries to peddle, including all “viral” epidemics/pandemics.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 13, 2021 2:52 PM
Reply to  Russ

Thing is Russ, there are two competing factions in this area. There’s a three way war on. Side 1 believe there’s a real flu-like virus called Covid 19- a strain of coronavirus Side 2- Believe it’s bullshit; a psyop to screw the global mindset into acceptance of a reset. Side 3 Believe because covid 19 is BS. all viruses are. There’s no such thing as germs and no such thing as viruses and all doctors and virologists have been either lying for cash or plain wrong according to unqualified commentators. When a disease / infection occurs in you, it’s down to your inability to prevent or overcome it, or rather, your immune systems. So, naturally, a healthy, strong immune system functioning well is your best defence. The biological weapons you refer to have all, since 1960s on, concentrated more on making the immune system fail or overreact and basically leave… Read more »

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 7:24 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

“Side 2- Believe it’s bullshit; a psyop to screw the global mindset into acceptance of a reset.”

“Side 3 Believe because covid 19 is BS. all viruses are. There’s no such thing as germs and no such thing as viruses and all doctors and virologists have been either lying for cash or plain wrong according to unqualified commentators.”

That’s not quite right.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 13, 2021 8:24 AM

Taiwan has terrible stats on pneumonia. If you select the country on the graph at this link it shows pneumonia attributed deaths have risen from 3800 in 1990 to over 13000 in 2017. That is over a 200% increase. +365% in over 70 year olds compared with a 65% reduction in Finland and 26% in Norway. The masks, vaccines and various SARS/ COVID policies have been destroying peoples health there.
https://ourworldindata.org/pneumonia

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 13, 2021 9:10 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

In Norway they have been improving their vitamin D ie. a terrain theory issue. They have lifts in certain towns so people can go up the mountain to get sun. There is reflectors to shine the sun into the town square.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 9:52 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Norway is a hypocritical shithole. And I say that as a norseman who would refuse to associate with them.

Yes, in scandniavia they have vitamin D fortification and it’s helped. But those govts are rather fucking guilty.

Iceland and Finland, from what I can tell, are a bit better.

And I hate to say it, but this world is going to run out of sun soon if it doesn’t RAPIDLY change its ways.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Feb 13, 2021 7:30 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

“Norway is a hypocritical shithole. And I say that as a norseman who would refuse to associate with them”

is there a – but ?

Norway, being on my “interested” list.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 8:34 PM
Reply to  Doctortrinate

Well, I’m just speaking for myself. If it’s on your “interested” list, check it out. Ironically, my middle name is pretty much the same as that famous poet or whatever from norway.

Edit:
Composer? Writer? I don’t remember.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 13, 2021 7:41 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

Even so Taiwan is at at the bottom of the list of countries to suggest for health policies. It’s a completely absurd idea like going to Jamaica for a ski holiday. There is 20 degrees in Taiwan and they managed to increase pneumonia. 500 deaths a week.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 8:37 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Well, in terms of health policies most countries have utterly pathetic government, welfare and “healthcare” institutions.

My feelings about norway isn’t THAT much about health policy, in that regard. Other things.

But sure, I get your point. It’s a toxic shithole.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 9:51 AM

“Procrastination only benefits an infectious virus, and slow uptake of vaccines only benefits mutations!”

Explain your justification for saying that by expressing the function, action, ingredients, what it does, what it’s for, or I consider you forever worthless.

Post Hoc
Post Hoc
Feb 13, 2021 10:05 AM

Just came out in a rash reading the first couple of sentences…

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 13, 2021 1:15 PM

Playing the Devil’s Advocate is always good. Asking stupid uninformed questions not so.

Why are the hospitals, ICUs full … ha ha … In my country, they get circa four times the standard reimbursement for alleged COVID-19 patients. Why kill the goose laying golden eggs …?

Also, hospitals are full because they’re always full. The motherfuckers have been reducing the number of beds for ages. Yet, occupancy is not much higher now than in other years.

What the mass media say is a CROCK OF SHIT … LIE, LIE, LIE, and then some more …

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 8:46 PM
Reply to  Jacques

And they are trying to cause worse issues by targeting the healthcare workers with the vaccines and shit.

Aethelred
Aethelred
Feb 15, 2021 11:31 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Hospitals don’t fill themselves. Neither do diseases fill hospitals. People fill hospitals. Financial incentives and induced fear of a virus with its own publicity campaign encourage doctors to fill hospitals and impose drastic interventions like ventilators which themselves threaten life. Doctors are neither gods nor oracles of truth, but are as susceptible as any to manipulation and corruption.

David
David
Feb 13, 2021 1:57 PM

As I have mentioned on a previous thread, a global study has been carried out on approx 3000 early severe hospitalised cases of “Covid” (I know this because a very good friend of mine was one of the subjects).
The study found that all those hospitalised had aberrations of 1 or more of 4 genes.
See here : https://genomicc.org/results/

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 8:48 PM
Reply to  David

You know genes can break because of toxicity and deficiency, so it really isn’t particularly surprising. You get transcription errors, dna to rna breaks, protein misfoding, all kinds of shit.

It’s crucial to try and boost your mitochondrial function.

Blessed PickAxe
Blessed PickAxe
Feb 13, 2021 11:15 PM

You are severely deluded and are parrotting insane and inhumane propaganda that has nothing to do with real science. The only reason you are here is that whoever sent you is desperate. If you took even a cursory look at the contents of this site you would know you have little chance of selling these lies here… But, like a Jehova’s Witness, you must zealously try to spread the slave doctrine.
Or like a tropical parasite, persistent.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Feb 14, 2021 3:36 AM

You cannot use one example where there has been little incidence of the disease and conclude that lockdowns work. I do not think it is possible to forever hide from the virus. Exposure leads to herd immunity. And yes, Vitamin D and early treatment are good ideas.

Hele
Hele
Feb 14, 2021 3:43 AM

Many caught Covid in the hospital-40%.

the role of early use of Ivermectin both as low-dose preventer and early stage therapy looks extremely promising (once you get over the refusal of Merck to accept the trial results actually available), 

Gates is funding a new study of ivermectin-that will dismiss its effectiveness and therefore won’t be allowed to be a treatment-because it’s affordable-and won’t benefit big pharma

Magic Bullet
Magic Bullet
Feb 14, 2021 9:21 AM

You’re not a good devil’s advocate. Taiwan used a PCR cycle threshold of 35 vs 40-45 in most other nations, thats why the number of cases is low there. More importantly, there is no proof of this virus. The genome was decided after ONE CASE’s lung wash was sequenced (how can you sequence a sample that has many microbes in it and know which one is the pathogen) in Wuhan and registered in a Genebank (ie it wasnt an isolated virus proved to be a pathogen), in a Nature paper published almost the same day of the sequencing(!) by a company called “Illumina”(!), and this genome was the template for the PCR test and the Vaccine(!). Look up the genome number in the FDA site for the PCR test kit (the DNA probes which can be found in many bacteria and the human genome), and the vaccine makers info or… Read more »

Nick
Nick
Feb 15, 2021 11:38 AM
Reply to  Magic Bullet

As soon as I saw that the virus was “in silica” I concluded it was a hack and stitch job. Thanks for the info.

Alexander C. Baker, J.D.
Alexander C. Baker, J.D.
Feb 13, 2021 5:35 AM

Before you conclude that something “doesn’t work”, you first must know the intended purpose. With that in mind, I submit that lockdowns are working very, very well indeed.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Feb 13, 2021 3:57 AM

There are some politicians that I believe are uncomfortable about going along with lockdowns. Unfortunately, I suspect they have been intimidated by the medical mafia. Many publuc health networks are tied into Federal agencies controlled by the CDC or WHO. It takes a lot of personal courage to go against medical “experts”. Lower level politicians need to push back. Knowledgeable public servants, nursed, doctors do as well.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 13, 2021 4:44 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

You’re right. There are some members of the WHO who hate doing what they are ordered to do by their ”philanthropist” donors.

Strange isn’t it. I though a Philanthropist was like an altruist. He just gave money to a cause for them to use. No request for a return as though it’s an investment and no right to tell them how to run their organisation Apparently I was wrong. They pay money, they get to run their business and they get more money back. But they only publicise their own ‘generosity’.

Politicians, on the other hand, are whores.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Feb 13, 2021 6:02 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

Futile. They know very well, and you should too, that their position is predicated on them conforming. You wanna go against what’s being directed from above? Kiss good bye to your position. That is the very reason that we have so many corrupt and dishonest politicians in the first place. the system selects for them. the only moral response is to not enter politics, or to get out.
How you apparently dont know this baffles me. This is organisational psychology 101.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 10:03 AM
Reply to  Zen Priest

“. the only moral response is to not enter politics, or to get out.”

Yep, especially the lower level public workers. If they don’t recognize they are fighting themselves by supporting those policies, they are lost, don’t bother.

As they are the fodder used to implement the machinations, and at the same time also far more likely to find adversity…they are essentially the delegated scapegoats.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Feb 13, 2021 6:27 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

I know a few of those, even have a couple in my family. They say they disagree with the current government but they are happy in their unfirable jobs and eye watering pensions.
But to add, I think most of them know how government really functions. So they are complicit. Unless they are really stupid, and there are quite a few of those.

Post Hoc
Post Hoc
Feb 13, 2021 2:01 AM

When you use the term “non pharmaceutical interventions” I smell deceit.

Why not refer to “lockdown” as it is known?

To import terms that are widely used in the medical industry such as “pharmaceutical” and “intervention”, we are forced to look down the barrel of medico-pharma controls originating with the evil little Fauci person.

tish
tish
Feb 12, 2021 11:03 PM

Great artical thanks for this We can acknowledge that ‘The Emperor really has no clothes’

We really do have to push against what it happening. The longer we are staying indoors, the longer we are wearing idiotic masks, the longer we do not even look at anyone……we are losing our humanity. We have to stop it. We just need those around us to stand up and say ‘I am Sparticus’ I wish I knew how to do it.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Feb 13, 2021 3:42 AM
Reply to  tish

Push back would help, but why exactly are governments around the world doing this, when it makes no sense from a medical point of view? We should not have to push back. Governments should be acting in the interests of their citizens, and they are doing just the opposite. I believe an evil agenda is in play.

Edith
Edith
Feb 13, 2021 4:36 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

The western govt agreed to do stuff lock step a couple of years ago…we didn’t notice that part of the now obvious planning….and I start to think they may be getting blackmailed by the central banks …no vaccine etc no more easy money…that alone would work a treat on so many of them…and of course the vaccine is just a huge transfer of billions to the gates etal big pharma….so much of this is the big elites doing a rather large clean up…

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Feb 13, 2021 6:06 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

There is a mafia that sits above governments. Hence all politicians must serve. It really is that simple.

flashlight joe
flashlight joe
Feb 13, 2021 4:51 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

You got it!

flashlight joe
flashlight joe
Feb 13, 2021 4:49 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

I believe it is all about the financial shenanigans. The Jewish Oligarchs are looting our country like they did the Soviet Union. The magic virus is a military operation of mind control. That’s why covid fear is blasted at everyone 24 hours a day through the Jewish oligarch controlled media.

Final report: People who live in fear of a magic virus have been brainwashed.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Feb 13, 2021 6:31 PM
Reply to  flashlight joe

Yes you are correct. This is simply their latest genocide. If anyone cared to understand true history they would see that people of this group committed many.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 13, 2021 4:39 AM
Reply to  tish

I agree. What’s happening is priming dressed as preparedness.

We’re told we were never’ prepared ‘for a pandemic. We weren’t. We didn’t think one would arrive. We were right. It never arrived. Unfortunately we have the ghost of one supported by invisible statistics.

The elite make their point.

In truth, the best way to prep a race for becoming a transhuman or any similar hybrid machine /man morph is to teach him to let go of his humanity whether he wants to or not.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Feb 13, 2021 6:04 AM
Reply to  tish

Stop giving a crap about others who are too stupid or stubborn to see what’s being done to them. It is literally pointless and only brings you down. Just look out for yourself and enjoy your life regardless.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 7:27 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

That’s a subversive agent. It tries to associate falsely.

Nick
Nick
Feb 15, 2021 11:51 AM
Reply to  Zen Priest

Agreed. I gave friends and family reams of documents of hard data garnered over a year,including all studies showing asymptomatic transmission had never been observed,that excess mortality this winter has only happened in the care homes,straight after rollout. Survival rates,how pcr “tests” at 40-45 ct is giving 80% false and asymptomatic positives. How hospitals have never been swamped and how this winter they have never reached their usual >95% bed capacity.I’ve done my bit to at least give them informed consent.

image
image
Feb 12, 2021 10:07 PM

Absolutely. Government very rarely makes mistakes. Your ment to think their idiots. But they know exactly what There doing. And This whole thing is a meticulous planned conspiracy , many years in the making.And the agenda 21/30 documents say no traveling more than 3 miles from where a person lives.ever!. So vaccines will only allow people to travel abroad in the Short term. And they are already saying unvaccinated should not travel anywhere. And what are people who have family abroad meant to do

urban fox siad  

Ooink
Ooink
Feb 12, 2021 10:57 PM
Reply to  image

Govs just follow orders.

Ooink
Ooink
Feb 13, 2021 12:03 PM
Reply to  image

The Gov don’t know shit. They just do as they’re told.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 9:28 PM

“Non-pharmaceutical” interventions do not work, and are doing far more harm than good

When you say that. I think fuckoff.

You should say “Policy involving imposition doesn’t work, and does far more harm than good.”

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 11:24 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

Read the votes people…

FIELDS OF FIRE. READ IT.

I got back from a necromancy trip yesterday.

I’m a dad now.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 11:44 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

Basically, if you try to justify unjustifiable force, I have justification to use force (and maybe momentum and position) based on your intent to impose.

Coz you’re a fucking jerk, so you’ll snap, crackle and pop.

That’s how the derivation goes.

“If a law is unjust, a person not only has the right to disobey it, that person is obligated to do so.”

So I correct that somewhat.

dvid
dvid
Feb 13, 2021 3:31 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

Natural law all the way.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 10:15 AM
Reply to  Frank G L

“Policy involving imposition doesn’t work, and does far more harm than good.”

All of you who downvoted that are pieces of shit. And it says a lot about the worth of your “characters”.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 12, 2021 9:08 PM

Human subjects, sheeple, renegades, lend me your ears… A quick (ish) opinion poll. As you will have noticed by now, we are running around like white rats that have realised our handlers are, in fact, psychopaths. We can see plenty of our less brighter white rat friends running toward them out of fear and ignorance so that’s one positive- they’ll take longer to round us up. Given that the US judges compiled this paper (Nuremberg Code ) shortly after the WW2 holocaust and the inhumane treatment and murder of Jews ( and some other groups that rarely make a headline), I would argue that this, along with the founding of the ADL, gives the rest of humanity a case for it’s own defence. Given, also, that we are living in a oh -so -enlightened age and we are surrounded by thought police telling us how many ‘isms’ we are voicing… Read more »

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Feb 12, 2021 10:23 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

The Nuremberg Code has not been officially adopted in its entirety as law by any nation or as ethics by any major medical association.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 12, 2021 10:29 PM
Reply to  Grace Johns

If you choose Wikipedia as a sole source always read more than the opening sentence.

However, the Code is considered to be the most important document in the history of clinical research ethics, which had a massive influence on global human rights. The Nuremberg Code and the related Declaration of Helsinki are the basis for the Code of Federal Regulations Title 45 Part 46,[13][14] which are the regulations issued by the United States Department of Health and Human Services for the ethical treatment of human subjects, and are used in Institutional Review Boards (IRBs). In addition, the idea of informed consent has been universally accepted and now constitutes Article 7 of the United Nations’ International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. It also served as the basis for International Ethical Guidelines for Biomedical Research Involving Human Subjects proposed by the World Health Organization.[9]

Kalen
Kalen
Feb 13, 2021 3:17 AM
Reply to  Grace Johns

NC May have been adopted in exact letter but in US ethical rules were formulated as close equivalent of just formulated at that time Nuremberg Code original formulation as legal opinion extending to US as US medical experimentation wereoart of Nazi Doctors trials.  “Principles of Ethics Concerning Experimentation with Human Beings,” adopted by the American Medical Association House of Delegates in December 1946: 1. Consent of the human subject must be obtained. All subjects have been volunteers in the absence of coercion IN ANY FORM. Before volunteering, subjects have been informed of the hazards, if any. Small rewards in various forms have been provided as a rule. (Rule VIOLATED by mRNA vaccines trials and deployment) 2. The experiment to be performed must be based on the results of animal experimentation and on a knowledge of the natural history of the disease under study, and must be so designed that the… Read more »

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Feb 13, 2021 3:11 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Hello Kalen: I’ve read pages and pages of published Law regarding medical ethics, utilizing the Cornell Law Library as my principal source. The Nuremberg Code formulation was a legal opinion, period. It is not Statute Law. It is not approved nor enforced by the congress of the United States…

The Nuremberg Code contains no binding enforcement provision. It was a diversionary scam created by a criminal class to protect a criminal class. It is theater.

B.A.R. association members have been reduced to simple ambulance chasers, with NO intention of protecting anyone but their own handlers.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Feb 13, 2021 2:48 PM
Reply to  Grace Johns

Hello Grace Johns: As you must know, the Nuremberg Code is nothing more than a paper tiger. As is the case with ALL United Nations resolutions, it is intentionally limited to policy “suggestions”. The Nuremberg Code has no jurisdictional enforcement over sovereign Nations or States, thus should not be construed as Law. Try to find an enforcement provision… There is none…

The United Nations is a psyop scam, nothing more. > A diversionary tactic installed in 1948 by oligarchic financial interests. It is well past time that civilian populations recognize the beast for what it is.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Feb 12, 2021 10:44 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

All of them Jura. But I took note of: 4) ‘the experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injuries’ and 9) ‘During the course of the experiment, the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical and mental state where continuation seems impossible’. Annette made the comment a couple of days ago that we are now moving into Nazi Land territory. I also see a Stark parallel with what happened in Germany after Hitler came to power, and what is happening to us now with the scamdemic. I see a very harsh crackdown coming against all those deemed ‘enemies of the community’ namely the so called “covid deniers” “anti vaxxers” “conspiracy theorists” etc etc. We will be deemed as extremists endangering the health of others. Refer to the previous story regards… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 13, 2021 4:34 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Exactly gez..the words may change but the song remains the same ..

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Feb 13, 2021 5:03 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Good Morning Jura✌️was out on my back porch earlier and overhead 2 of my neighbours chatting. One said “did you see those protests in the city last night” and the second neighbour with a louder voice said “just lock them all up, throw them in jail”.
All my neighbours are covid cult members. That would be the mindset of the majority here in Melbourne such is the irrational fear and brainwashing.
We who see what is really going on; that this scamdemic is linked with Agenda 21, The Great Reset and Fourth Industrial Revolution; we are very much in the minority.
Have a good day…

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 13, 2021 9:15 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Morning Gez.. ✊ It’s always been the same. It just takes something like this to bring it to the fore. The Covid 19 virus being fake is something the nihilists will never admit. They don’t have to if the majority of the fools buy it sight unseen. The stupidity pandemic is the same. That pandemic has been raging for a couple of thousand years now. It isn’t a respiratory virus though. So no drama. It works by stealth and rots the thinking skills of the population. Screw them. They’ve already taken up too much of our attention. When the shit hits the fan your neighbour will be holding out his hand for you to pull him to safety. Throw him a sandwich. ”We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.” ― Plato “There… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Feb 13, 2021 9:24 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Thanks again✌️👍

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Mar 11, 2021 9:24 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Morning Jura✌️How are you doing? How are things going in Merseyside? A few of us have noticed your absence lately, tho to be honest, I’m even getting fed up with the regiment of trolls and other idiots infesting the comments section at OffG now. It gets really tiring. I only in the last day actually checked out The Slog – John Ward’s blog, and it looks really solid, and remember you saying he had a good style of writing. Well, I checked out the comments section, and was a bit startled to see a well known name from OffG ‘below the line’ making the same rambling, inane comments as at OffG. Sigh. Also only just discovered Cutting Through The Matrix blog by Alan Watt, and from what I’ve seen, it looks very solid as well. Anything else you’ve come across blog wise? Vaccines are well and truly being rolled out… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Mar 11, 2021 8:48 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hello Gez..i just seen that I had a reply on here in my inbox.. Good to hear from you.👍 I’m doing OK. I ignore the crap around me out there. It’s no big deal- I learned that was the right thing to do many moons ago. I don’t speak their language that well, and i don’t want to. They get worse. And they’re playing straight into the hands of the cult. If they have been determined to hammer home the message that most of the population are imbeciles, ergo it’s Ok to ‘manage’ them, then all they have to do is point out what the world has become through the evil of the few that got through unchecked by the many. I’m glad the slog’s still up and running. You’re right, I did mention JW as a top man. He is. He’s a smart one too. he kissed a good… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Mar 11, 2021 10:02 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

“Carry a candle in the dark, be a candle in the dark, know that you’re a flame in the dark”… Ivan Illich. That quote speaks volumes to me, and yes, I’m very stoic Jura. This is about living by your principles and doing what is right. It’s that simple. Maybe it’s my Irish Kiwi Catholic upbringing coming thru?? But it’s deeply sad that so many have forgotten what principles are, or what having a conscience is. I know very well how obedient Australia is – I’ve found that out in the last year, and to my bafflement, most men here have become neutered ball less pussy cats, including even construction workers, labourers, tradesmen, etc. Not a whiff of disobedience. White flags indeed. Reports that the pyscho’s are installing surveillance cameras out in the Bush away from the cities. Apparently this is being partly funded by the World Wildlife Fund and… Read more »

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Feb 13, 2021 7:42 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I said that a year ago and my stupid sister called me a holocaust denier, haven’t spoken to the stupid woman since. If so called covid existed it’s a cold. With out a single new symptom of any kind, but old DAn the man loves his power and all his CHO’s lie. Now they are using the same lie, different reason, on some poor sod in Victoria while wasting 20k tests over night to find one person and blaming the one person in hospital who is an asthmatic made worse because they stole his nebulizer.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Feb 13, 2021 8:10 AM

Hi Marilyn, a rambling reply. I’ve spoken to several of my Facebook friends in the UK, and they’ve never heard of a “UK variant” but they have heard of a “South African variant”. Its so blatantly farcical now. We know the PCR tests are meaningless, and are deliberately being used to get more “cases”. They are the key of this fraud in my opinion. I haven’t watched or read any news today, not even the headlines at the disgusting ABC. But I have seen a couple of disturbing posts on Facebook. It appears that the document signed by Sutton allows for this lockdown to continue until midnight Feb 26th – 14 days, NOT the 5 days that Andrews has stated. I don’t know if this is genuine, but there was a leaked memo from the police saying this lockdown may last for 3 weeks. Andrews has stated that ALL Victorians… Read more »

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Feb 13, 2021 6:19 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

None of our media have the brains to ask why we need to vaccinate 25 million people for a non existent virus, they are all so sucked in by the Gates and Google sponsored propaganda, they are too lazy and stupid to ask questions as usual.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 7:36 PM

They have the “brains” Marilyn. They choose not to. Don’t mistake malice for idiocy. They are part of “the things”.

flashlight joe
flashlight joe
Feb 14, 2021 9:51 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

@Frank GL, “They have the “brains” Marilyn. They choose not to. Don’t mistake malice for idiocy. They are part of “the things”.” The people are not stupid. They have been brainwashed. Read Chapter 6 (12 pages) of Mein Kampf to learn about the incredible power of this “spiritual weapon” called war propaganda, which can lead to “…results that are almost beyond our understanding”. Read it and weep. As for me, when I must go out among these brainwashed zombies, you know, to buy food or something important, I bring a mask in my pocket in case I must walk among them. As long as I disguise myself with this magic mask, the zombies cannot recognize that I am different, and they let me pass. I have been using this very same blue hospital mask for about a year. Cut some holes in it under the flaps so I can breathe,… Read more »

tish
tish
Feb 12, 2021 11:07 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Yes, Jura you are spot on. I am sick of idiots nit picking because they refuse or do not want to see the truth because it is not there agenda.

And, yes 10/10

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 13, 2021 4:33 AM
Reply to  tish

I hear you tish. I feel the slide.

Hele
Hele
Feb 13, 2021 4:40 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

gina Carrara has used the Holocaust as a metaphor and is now shamed, fired and pilloried

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Feb 13, 2021 7:44 AM
Reply to  Hele

And yet it took decades for the USA and UK to do programs on Eugenics that both state Hitler used the Eugenics hand book written and approved by the US supreme court years before Hitler came to power and state that his ‘bible” was the USA Eugenics hand book and the Supreme court approved forced sterilisations when Oliver Wendell Holmes was chief.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 13, 2021 9:18 AM
Reply to  Hele

It’s a Hollywood Freudian slip which they’ll live to regret.

Blessed PickAxe
Blessed PickAxe
Feb 14, 2021 11:16 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

The Nuremberg Trials were kangaroo courts and the NC has already been rejected as not applicable to the situation. They simply reject the suggestion that this is an experiment and the NC only applies to medical experiments.

Ort
Ort
Feb 14, 2021 7:29 PM

I hope you don’t mind my tacking on a concurring corollary observation from my ragbag archive of comments: I can’t resist noting that the Nuremberg Trials and edicts are usually cited with pious high-mindedness, and accordingly are taken seriously and at face value. The official narrative got the ball rolling with high rhetorical hype, and the reverence for the ostensible meaning and lessons of Nuremberg is reinforced in popular culture. I was too young to see the Hollywood blockbuster film “Judgment at Nuremberg” when it was released in 1961, but it was shown in a high school history class, c. 1970, and I was appropriately impressed. So there’s an understandable blindness to the cynical prospect that, in reality, the moral of the story was “Every one on the losing side is responsible for their own actions.” At least that’s how the Allied governments’ aka Western Hegemony’s institutions interpreted it– especially the… Read more »

niko
niko
Feb 12, 2021 8:49 PM

There’s a neutron bomb for your brain as well as the empty streets, wiping the mind clean. See, for example, the latest PR from the World Economic Forum:

What is the Great Reset? | Davos Agenda 2021

Edith
Edith
Feb 13, 2021 4:42 AM
Reply to  niko

So many calling for a great reset….what s….. going to put the planet and people first….name one of the elite behind all this who has considers the planet first in any business model they are operating? Wankers

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 7:39 PM
Reply to  Edith

That’s the thing, they’re all irrelevant and not worth supporting, ever. That’s why they’re clamourous for “another chance”, so to say.

Bryan Lafferty
Bryan Lafferty
Feb 12, 2021 8:37 PM

It seems people refuse the idea that whatever system is on the hook for their long term health costs will necessarily act to shape and eliminate them (and the costs). That conflict was amicably adversarial until the Nudge/Moral Coercion concept came back into fashion. Now the conflict is somehow unthinkable. China, Russia and proxy war states around them are effective boogeymen satisfying any appetite for a moral comeuppance. The Evidence Based Medicine crew (Gotzche, Ioannidis, Henneghan, Welch, Jefferson) are being overtly cold-shouldered after great careers fulfilling the 150 year old promise of a scientific practice of medicine. The Streisand Effect must be put into effect, by word of mouth, in the real world. Learn what they were about and talk about it even when it feels like imposing too much in someone’s personal medical issue. (I won’t think poorly of you if I overhear you.) We don’t have to get… Read more »

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 8:53 PM
Reply to  Bryan Lafferty

Well I see the best qualities in their “leaders”, Empathetic integrity. Discipline. They’re reading their scripts practically flawlessly. As only machines could.

As a sheep farmer monopolist/soul collector, I must say, I almost thought this harvest could’ve been bleak.

You have NO idea how many farms I’ve had to put out of business.

niko
niko
Feb 12, 2021 8:19 PM

What lockdowns? Haven’t we always lived this way?

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Feb 12, 2021 7:43 PM

Came across Amandha Vollmer while looking out some stuff on Stefan Lanka. She had transcribed / translated one of his lectures.

There are some of her podcasts here. Quite interesting. Definitely a germ-theory sceptic.

https://www.owltail.com/people/RWvTz-amandha-vollmer/appearances

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 7:04 PM

My host and her colleagues are all in their own houses and having a cocktail party through zoom: they call party what in effect is each getting totally drunk alone in their own homes. So the question is can such people be recuperated (they are school teachers and I wrote elsewhere how they are brainwashing the children)? Is there any point in trying to recuperate them? Are they the majority? There is also this Alexa thing in the house, and I found out it may be spying on me, as I today found something connect to it in my room as suddenly someone had started talking and I was rather perplex as I was alone. That was when I was on the phone to someone. Can it listen in to conversations on my mobile? Can it connect to my computer screen since Im using their wifi? Id be grateful if… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Feb 12, 2021 7:26 PM
Reply to  Annette

So many questions, and I share them all.

If your Alexa is linked to your account it will collect your data regardless of which wifi it’s connected to.

Did you read about the couple who were at home discussing a new hardwood floor… and their conversation got emailed to one of his staff? They didn’t believe him until he read their words back to them.

Mr. Todd
Mr. Todd
Feb 12, 2021 11:33 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

My father ( 87 ) is proud of his Alexa and talks to it like a good friend. He likes the responses and the fact it can play his favourite music on request. One day I was visiting and had my Kindle with me, which has Alexa but I’ve never even switched it on in 3 years. And, the machine itself was switched off. He was proudly showing off his machine and asked it to play some C+W music, which it promptly did.

The following day when I switched on my Kindle at my own house, it proceeded to play the very same track.
Some would say spooky, but we know different.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 7:45 PM
Reply to  Annette

They sound like cretins and they are malicious. From my perspective I don’t see them as being generous, at all. That’s ego stroking. They are simply wondering what it would be like if they were as hypocritically narcissistic as, say, their parents. Which is state. No doubt they feel very righteous for “helping one of the institutionalized theirs”, as any possessive sociopathic religious zealot would. But the fact of the basic malice they perpetuate is inescapable.

Which is fitting. With that sort of arrogant, ignorant stupidity their direction of progress is of course backwards, so they will find themselves in the proverbial cave as the troglodytic trilobites they aspire to be.

Btw, if anyone needs a refresher on that allegory, here’s a reading of it by John Malkovich…

I wonder if Frank would be proud...

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 9:29 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

Could be! Let me give her credit for her generosity until Im proved wrong. I agree I think it may be hopeless in their case. You see when I needed to find a place within days as a lodger on the ground floor, everyone I or my carer knows in or near London either their house was up stairs, or they refused because they are terrified of covid: somehow that a tibia bone fracture has nothing to do with respiratory issues is something they couldnt quite take in. Anyhow among those with adequate facilities, she’s the only one who said come to me immediately. So evidently she and her family werent afraid of covid. Hence I thought they may be open and that I could possibly during my stay slowly bring them to realise what is going on. Well I hadnt counted on another type of insanity. This type I… Read more »

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 9:45 PM
Reply to  Annette

“I agree I think it may be hopeless in their case. You see when I needed to find a place within days as a lodger on the ground floor, everyone I or my carer knows in or near London either their house was up stairs, or they refused because they are terrified of covid:

You see, your narrative is contradictory to the principles. The people you are currently considering generous are those who aid the estrangement from people you actually know. Also harming them.

You sit with those who aid the shit…suggesting generosity and call those imposed on “…merely pitiable fools.”

The glitches often tell. And the monitor looks at you.

I see you got a name

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 10:24 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

Yes hadnt realised that… You’re right they are contributing to the others terror, at least by brainwashing their students. As for me, there is absolutely no option: nowhere to go until my carer has had his surgery. I cant walk yet. For repatriation to my own home in my country, that might be a better option if it can be arranged: there are many legal issues due to the measures and the fact I cant walk and need to regularly put my feet up, so cant travel alone, and in a normal sitting up position. The only person who is on the same wave length (I know he reads Off G and my comments here, so will recognize himself), and whom indeed I would like to meet in real life, who offered I stay with him lives too far away. I would need to take the train and for that… Read more »

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 11:15 PM
Reply to  Annette

I dunno, it’s like, I can only read so much trolling.

I mean, transport services like…taxis, maybe even private…uber. Shit, you could try something like an ad. I mean, I can see you’re pretty involved with that.

Esmeralda
Esmeralda
Feb 13, 2021 6:19 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

Far out Frank, that’s a pretty heartless reply. She’s not trolling at all.
Annette, it’s a very tough situation you’re in at the moment and I hope you improve rapidly.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 7:40 PM
Reply to  Esmeralda

You have to ignore a lot to be able to say that. Thanks for the opnion though. As you may have noticed, I’ve simply refrained from communicating with that, as I have a fair amount of experience with this stuff.

But don’t worry, as I said the other day, you won’t know me for very long.

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 11:25 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

On second thought, they are equally convinced of their position, so they are not doing to others what they are not doing to themselves. Nor are they forcing others to be like them. They are teaching the children the dogma they have been taught. They have no idea how false and dangerous it is, Humans are not black and white, and before accusing others, ask yourself whether you are as pure as snow or whatever the expression is, ask yourself whether you have ever helped anyone in their moment of utmost need as they have done. How many would do so even with people they considered from “their set”?

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 12:05 AM
Reply to  Annette

“They have no idea how false and dangerous it is”

Okay…so you’re saying they’re actually illiterate and incapable of basic arithmetic or reasoning? Functionally retarded? In another post you say they know there is no(w) danger, or something like that.

“Because the emotions will hit as god should
And the mountains will offer no shelter
And the clouds will be no cover
No matter where we run”

You have to be very careful with what you suggest now. The line is very thin.
https://genius.com/Devin-townsend-the-death-of-music-lyrics

So it’s zero tolerance now.

John the First
John the First
Feb 12, 2021 7:55 PM
Reply to  Annette

Why don’t you just take Alexa-thing, strangle it, then flush it through the toilet.

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 9:31 PM
Reply to  John the First

Well its theirs! I didnt even know it had an extension into my room. Anyhow Ive unplugged my room’s extension.

Magic Bullet
Magic Bullet
Feb 14, 2021 10:39 AM
Reply to  Annette

I think you need to put it in acid to really disable it.

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 12, 2021 9:19 PM
Reply to  Annette

I assume that Alexa is something like Siri. I know of Siri because a person who had been my a sister in arms, a true soulmate, and much more whom I hadn’t seen for 25 years proudly brandished her iPhone when I recently met her, and bragged how swell it is to be able to ask her phone at a bus stop how long before the next bus comes. Thinglike that. Depressing. But interesting to see how people’s lives develop in unexpected directions. Anyway, I asked Siri if she’d like to eat shit and she retorted “That’s not nice”. I asked again something along the same lines, and after a while she stopped responding. I wonder if that would work with Alexa too. Disgust the bitch. I bet that my voice is forever stored in the depths of Siri’s deranged digital psyche as belonging to a persona non grata, but… Read more »

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 10:44 PM
Reply to  Jacques

well I was taken aback one day when at dinner one of them said “Alexa quieter”. Wondered who they were talking to. Basically it seems to be something that controls many aspects of their house. Suddenly today as I was talking on my mobile in my room, I heard a voice that seemed next to me. To tell the truth at 1st I thought someone was talking to me from outside the door or window. There was no one. Thats when I noticed a cylinder saying Amazon on it… Id heard of Alexa, but frankly given no one I know would dream of having this, I had never paid sufficient attention to these developments, only keeping track as to which ones they were trying to make compulsory. For instance in my country, they’re supposed to get rid of landlines. Evidently for surveillance they need to force the use of mobiles.… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 13, 2021 8:52 AM
Reply to  Jacques

The big guys with their hand on the tap of public wealth are constantly looking for big items to divert the wealth to, as opposed to pressing small-scale needs, as the kickback is bigger. Their cronies in industry and business help them to resolve this problem.

image
image
Feb 12, 2021 10:00 PM
Reply to  Annette

if judges in the uk tell people to turn it of during a hearing them it is absolutely listening they always have kind of listened and no i am not mad, now people made it so so so easy for them to listen. the other question how and why does my computer without wifi do updates at random time like 3am in the morning when it thinks i am not listening? And they all believe genetically engineering our bodies is part of evolutionary biology.  they are genetically modify or trying to the last of the humans they just did a reset changing the whole lighting system in the u.k  first it was energy saver light bulbs inverted they take energy all shops changed there lighting and over the last years cars lights and fucking lamp posts have changed to this horrific disgusting lighting some shops i cant go into due to… Read more »

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 10:50 PM
Reply to  image

I regularly instruct my computer to postpone updates. So never have any. When I bought this computer I was too much of a technical ignoramus to get linux.
But as soon as Im back home and have some peace an quiet, I intend to install that, and stop using windows.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 13, 2021 8:59 AM
Reply to  Annette

In Windows 10, you can’t stop the relentless vague “updates”. Worse still, something in the process went wrong on my device, and it it has been retrying the same update several times over the last few years.

Ort
Ort
Feb 13, 2021 10:14 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Last year, a Microsoft Update inexplicably deleted my Thunderbird e-mail program and all of my stored e-mails. After the update completed, the icon remained but all it produced was a message like “program not found”. As a person with limited technical knowledge, I plunged into the hell of visiting “help” forums to see if I was missing something, and if there was a way to recover the missing program and e-mails. I discovered other victims. Unfortunately, we all ran into a far too familiar “type” on PC “help” forums: bumptious geekholes who apparently show up to abuse victims with supercilious, sadistic snark. Of course your stupid e-mail program and contents are lost, they sneered. That’s what you get for not backing up your data before allowing any update, you fools! This would-be “tough love” response implied that users should expect that supposedly routine (Microsoft) updates could and would wreak unintended… Read more »

Magic Bullet
Magic Bullet
Feb 14, 2021 10:42 AM
Reply to  mgeo

You need to download wushowhide.diagcab run it each time Windows wants to upgrade and hide the system updates. I let it upgrade the Defender updates, but not the system updates. PC works just fine after a few years of doing this every quarter.

Marie
Marie
Feb 13, 2021 8:43 AM
Reply to  image

“Fitbit” wrist wearable monitoring devices have this piercing green strobe also.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Feb 13, 2021 6:13 AM
Reply to  Annette

Youre a professor are you not? And you’re asking those questions about Alexa only now??? Something fishy here.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 8:52 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

It’s a fraud, guy. There seem to be intentional holes, blatant contradictions in its attempted narratives, too. Not sure what’s up with that.

If I had to guess, associated with the same posters (like very closely) who post those very long subversive govt support sort of posts.

What do you reckon?

As it is, I have a fair idea of what’s going on here, so it’s very unlikely I’ll post for much longer. Got enough experience.

Marcello
Marcello
Feb 12, 2021 6:45 PM

The point and time for discussion is over. Its time to start consolidating those of like mind and acting. That could mean one of 2 things. The majority of sheeple want to self destruct and cannot be helped, changed, modified, encouraged etc. Time to cut the rope on that net and let it go, sorry to say. 2) then knowing that full well any overt actions will meet with zero support. Best option is embodied in Taoist wisdom, yielding. But not in a passive quiescent way. In an active way. One cannot stop a giant granite wheel from rolling downhill without coming to harm, so you let it pass and get out of the way. Here we are fully cognizant of the harm coming our way, the action comes in retreating for now and avoiding all possible harm. If attacked, the absolutely defend yourself. If they come to forcibly vaccinate… Read more »

Phaeton
Phaeton
Feb 12, 2021 7:31 PM
Reply to  Marcello

Well said, Marcello!

In my humble opinion they have already won. Now it doesn’t matter that Bill Gates, Hancock, Macron, Biden, Trump, Johnson, Sanchez, (or whatever puppet name you want to add to this list) are executed (although these genocides deserve this and more): the giant granite wheel was made rolled from day one, and it turned unstoppable when the big majority of humans believed in this scam.

While Governments make us argue about new measures, masks, vaccines, and so on, the real plan is being implemented and has been from the beggining. If trials start and people are condemned, it will be part of the show to show us that there is justice, when there is not, but the real plan (whatever it is) will be moving forward.

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 12, 2021 7:44 PM
Reply to  Marcello

Basically agree. That’s pretty much what I’m doing.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Feb 13, 2021 11:35 AM
Reply to  Marcello

Nailed it Marcello, appreciate this comment. I’ve tried waking up everyone I know personally, and even passers-by when I’m out selling the magazine I sell.
Its been like head butting a brick wall.
I’ve detached myself from them, even ended friendships because it’s too exhausting and the realisation finally hit that they Don’t want to wake up.
Even a former friend, who claimed to be ‘socialist’ yet wanted the police to hand out free facemasks and supported the lockdowns, because that’s what The Guardian was saying.
Your last sentence is spot on. Thanks…

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Feb 12, 2021 6:18 PM

The true nightmare is you’ve discovered that all the 2nd and 3rd raters at university — the people you tolerated but never trusted — have spent the past 20 or 30 years profiteering. You knew they were up to no good. Moving out of council jobs and into the private sector and back again. With all their benefits and pensions protected. It was all too smooth. You might have wondered how someone working for the Commission for Racial Equality could earn a banker’s salary… while dousing you in guilt over a glass of champagne. Now you realize. They built a cadre. By bending the rules, the holier than thou padded their bank accounts and built an impregnable network. The Guardian is their newspaper because it validates and defends those who make each other rich under cover of serving the masses. There is nothing more self-serving than a class-based cohort with… Read more »

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Feb 12, 2021 6:53 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

In my experience “the 2nd and 3rd raters at university” who couldn’t actually do the “job” (produce some work of real value), they learnt the art of bullsh1t, and practiced with each other coming out with the same sort of sh1t such as this…

From Our Great Leader:

“…..to free up, to empower, to harness the mission-driven capability of Team Health and Care, infilling the historic silo between provision of mental health and physical health services. The population health approach that is embedded within these integrated care systems will be at the fulcrum of delivery of health improvement…..”

https://therealslog.com/2021/02/12/explosive-gdp-disaster-how-the-internet-educated-hancock-the-dissembler/

Tony

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 9:54 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yes, though first raters today, well they may well not be truly first raters, while true first raters may have failed exams. Indeed a Guardian reader literally screamed at me some months ago: he asked why it was the Guardian was not criticizing the narrative if it was wrong, all I ventured to reply was that it was notably funded by the Gates foundation, a factual information, I was not venturing an opinion. He just totally lost control. A school teacher. (By the way, someone pointed out for some odd reason school teachers both in UK and France appear to be among the most rabid covid cult members, whether out of fear or reasons I describe in a comment above. Its extremely sad and worrying). Its like the stereotypical story of the madman who thinks he’s napoleon, and if you point out napoleon is dead that can spark violence. One… Read more »

Ooink
Ooink
Feb 12, 2021 5:52 PM

Bat soup, in the blink of an eye, created millions of felons all around the world.

Terrain
Terrain
Feb 12, 2021 5:34 PM

“Our governments should contribute to protect without coercion the old, sick and frail and free the rest of the population from all general NPIs. We have all learned what to do in winter with our old and frail parents, who particularly need our presence and can decide for themselves what they prefer: state-imposed protection, or an evening to their life surrounded by their beloved ones.”

Beautiful. Thank you.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 12, 2021 5:25 PM

“Of course, fear takes the best out of us, and nobody is to blame for damages produced unwillingly and under the pressure of fear.” This is a pre-planned operation and there is literally a mountain of evidence that confirms it including the mRNA synthetic pathogens, some of which were in negotiation for development as far back as 2015. These measures were not born of fear but hype and lies. Politicians and the oligarchs are maskless attending their private functions and parties. It couldn’t be more obvious this is outright fraud and governments acting in lock step apart from one or two outliers is proof enough that this is an economic and political agenda that has nothing to do with public health. Rebranding seasonal illness from low Vitamin D levels to a novel virus is fraud. Issuing blanket DNR orders in care and nursing homes created the first and only wave.… Read more »

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 5:58 PM
Reply to  Researcher

“Rebranding seasonal illness from low Vitamin D levels to a novel virus is fraud.” That’s not entirely true, in terms of seasonality, it is not just low vitamin D, though vitamin D is very important. The thing is, you don’t get just vitamin D from sunlight, so while (if you are deficient) it is certainly going to help…the problem is, you might be ignoring serotonin and melatonin issues. And the sunlight has other beneficial effects too. Which of course, goes hand in hand with why the sun is so demonized with the bullshit skin cancer stuff, and in terms of “global warming”. All of their policies and methodologies are antithetical to truth. As well as say, the UK specifically not recommending Vitamin D, even though it is known to be efficacious and implicated, efficient. Hell, even their typical RDI/RDA (from the rockefeller IOM) is intentionally too low by a factor… Read more »

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 12, 2021 6:50 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

Stefanie Seneff says “The enzyme that activates vitamin D3, 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 1α-hydroxylase (CYP27B1) is a CYP enzyme, and therefore is subject to suppression by glyphosate.”
https://mybiohack.com/blog/glyphosate-zonulin-vitamin-manganese-gluten-serine-glycine

She says glyphosate mimics Glycine so gets into the DNA. Stuff like bread and pasta is particularly important to get organic due to high levels of glyphosate. It is all very complex these interactions but glyphosate is for sure best avoided even in tiny amounts. Increasing fruits and salads can help cleaning and repairing. In the winter there will be less biophotons and availability of fresh produce so diets can suffer but there is still some good options like oranges, lemon rind, pine needle, salad, pineapple radish. early greens from the garden, weeds.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Feb 12, 2021 6:56 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

That raw vegan has been outted as a fraud.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 8:07 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Yeah I know a fair amount about glyphosate and glycine. Roundup is a chemical warfare agent.

Glyphosate was originally patented as a chelator for industrial cleaning. Which is one of the ways it deprives the body of mineral intake.

It fucks up mitochondria, ATP function, microbiome, hormones (as it’s xenoestrogenic it’s teratogenic, mutagenic, carcinogenic and cytotoxic, at the least), etc.

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 10:03 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

One of the pseudo-scientists in charge of vaccines or at least involved in their making at a very senior level was like bulldozer trying to hammer to some of us that Roundup was safe… For a while I tried arguing back and quoted the experiments conducted that showed it was dangerous. Unfortunately Im not a biologist and I frankly on Boxing day (2019) had not expected that this would be the conversation during tea time so hadnt revised the details: she began talking technique that the mice used in these experiments werent the right type of mice. Anyhow it was futile arguing, an elderly lady tried. I switched off and talked to her father instead who hadnt a clue what she was going on about.
This person works in one of Europe’s prestigious research institutes.

ClemFandango
ClemFandango
Feb 12, 2021 10:03 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

The only stephanie sennef i know of works in AI at one of the Gates interests. That hippy on the video isn’t her. And the link is a life hack one and she isn’t on that either.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 12, 2021 11:30 PM
Reply to  ClemFandango

There is links in the webpage to her papers if you search for the bit on vitamin D. What she says about sulfate being so good is at odds with Dr Morse who says sulfate is bad. He says there was a 60 minutes programme where they said double blind studies basically came down to who was paying for them. You could find a study to say anything in the medical world. I really don’t know much about sulfate but Dr Morse says it shows up in the eye. I definitely think glyphosate is bad and could effect vitamin D. Pure natural food and living is a good place to start.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 12:18 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

“Pure natural food and living is a good place to start.”

Well…take a look around. How are you supposed to start there?

Sulphur is completely necessary, so it’s obviously good. Excess would be bad. But other things might interfere.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 6:54 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

About the RDI for vitamin D in the UK (not a particularly sunny place), and especially with people staying indoors, clothed up (even more than usual, coz facial sunlight is kinda important) etc.

So the UK guidelines are from the Rockefeller Institute of Medicine (totally non-profit-like non-monopolistic kinda practically free “healthcare” that’s never had any history of bullshit, corruption or incentive). They recommend 400 IU vitamin D.

Those papers clearly show that is NOWHERE NEAR enough.

“Another study confirmed that 6201 IU/d was needed to achieve 75 nmol/L and 9122 IU/d was needed to reach 100 nmol/L.”

Less than that is too low. And they (UK officials/IOM) say you should get 400 IU. So they’re only off by around 15-25x. And vitamin D is the most clearly implicated factor in RTIs, but aside from that, crucial for genetic regulation, immune and bodily function in general. Affects pretty much everything.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 12, 2021 7:53 PM
Reply to  Frank G L

They say there is not enough UVB from November to February so people don’t even bother sunbathing but this is a complete lie. They just took average data from satelites which will show very low levels on a monthly average but if your facing the sun when it is out then you can sunbathe and get the benefits. Even if you look at hourly data you can see there is UVB but thats on the surface where as if your facing the sun it is much more. Sheltered from the wind like if you let the sun in a door it is plenty warm to get some in. You only need it to be sunny for 15 minutes or so to take advantage of it. Even 5 minutes is better than nothing. Even if its cloudy it can still be better than nothing.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 8:12 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Agreed.

ClemFandango
ClemFandango
Feb 12, 2021 10:04 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Wouldn’t it depend on what part of the world you lived when you sunbathed

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 12, 2021 10:19 PM
Reply to  ClemFandango

I slept under a solar collector for a while and you could feel the sun at 4am in the winter, hours before it even rose. It was radiation of some sort, it would wake me up. I would heat the whole house with it. Wasn’t the Uk but midday sun in UK has got UVB even at xmas. If you were on the north pole you’d want to get the sun as soon as it rose. The less there is the more you need it.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 10:39 PM
Reply to  ClemFandango

Of course, the general idea just being to get lots of sunlight. Everything about supposed cancer risks from sunlight is total bullshit. Just don’t burn too much.

Also, people with higher melanin are obviously adapted to more open, sunny areas. As that melanin is a direct physiological result from sun exposure, so they produce less vitamin D, needing more sunlight.

Obviously, in modern society, that is very different (and involved in an enormous amount of issues for people with more melanin).

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 12, 2021 6:29 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Politicians and the oligarchs are maskless attending their private functions and parties. I could supply tons of evidence of how apparatchiks, doctors, whoever don’t give a flying monkey; they obviously KNOW that it’s a scam. A case in point was a recent party over here attended among others by the regional chief of police. What do the idiot public say? Shame on them, they’re not wearing masks and partying while imposing restrictions on us. Kick them out and appoint somebody responsible. How fucking idiotic can one get? If they’re not afraid of catching “it” and dying, then obviously there ain’t that much of a risk of dying (of “it” that is). What is it gonna take for them to understand how they’re being played? Putting patients on ventilators I’d venture to say that most of the excess mortality in the spring, where applicable, was due to the use of ventilators.… Read more »

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 7:04 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Well everyone should’ve known trump is a pos loooong before he was even president. He was only placed there so that people could evidence the garbage. Zealots are zealots though.

Long ago, it occurred to me I had to stop the main flow…so I been busy

The comment is their punishment, btw. Somehow knew it before I linked that. Go figure.

Annette
Annette
Feb 12, 2021 10:08 PM
Reply to  Jacques

The only relief we got with Trump was that Hillary Clinton wanted to bring about a no fly zone over Syria, and this could have led to a nuclear war with Russia. Anyhow its only for this reason that some people I know who would never vote Republican voted for him at that point.
Now instead of the rapid death under a bomb, we are getting a slow tortured death…

GurneySlade
GurneySlade
Feb 12, 2021 10:36 PM
Reply to  Researcher

The scientific paper on vitamin D says different. All vitamin D does is raise your vitamin D level. It doesn’t cure or treat anything on its own or as part of a vitamin diet. Vitamins might be good for you in the right dose but they aren’t medicine for anything.

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgaa733/5934827

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 12:28 AM
Reply to  GurneySlade

I already gave you your last warning dumbass.

The scientific paper on vitamin D says different.”

This middle finger says you can fuckoff. And the other one agrees.

fame
fame
Feb 12, 2021 5:04 PM

The “vaccines” continue to kill people. Here are pages and pages of personal stories.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/p23Cy78jslq8/

Ben
Ben
Feb 12, 2021 3:57 PM

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Arby
Arby
Feb 12, 2021 4:06 PM
Reply to  Ben

George Galloway. If ever there was doubt (and I entertained some), now we know; He’s a dog.

kevin
kevin
Feb 12, 2021 4:13 PM
Reply to  Arby

That is incredibly unfair to dogs.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 5:22 PM
Reply to  kevin

Arby has a pending visit from Anubis. That is only after Horus enlightens him. So it will take a little while.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Feb 12, 2021 6:09 PM
Reply to  Arby

“Galloway craves attention. One has no moral duty or compunction to oblige him.”

Waldorf
Waldorf
Feb 12, 2021 6:46 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Indeed. A towering egomaniac.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Feb 12, 2021 7:47 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

“Well at least he isn’t sporting a Detroit Tigers baseball cap and looks like the clone of something that would want a hot date with Princess Leia.”

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 12, 2021 5:51 PM
Reply to  Ben

On the topic of the “purely coincidental” killing the rich have made out of covid, a recent article from Philip Roddis (a covid believer) recounts an old objection he made to the “scam theory”: If this is a devilish plot, I’m struggling to identify the beneficiaries. Not just the small and medium capitalists – always expendable in a crisis – but big capital too are being hit as never before. The costs of global lockdown will be measureless to man. But he has changed his mind now and says that concerning this objection: …that was flat out wrong. Big capital has not been “hit as never before”; at any rate not evenly. Behemoths like Amazon, and lesser titans like Tesco, have seen profits soar under such exotic conditions. More generally the super rich, who do not sell their labour-power, have got richer.And the professional castes, in many cases able to… Read more »

Loverat
Loverat
Feb 12, 2021 6:45 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Sceptics are on a wide spectrum, from Hitchens to Icke and more – many in between. Is he saying all the sceptics are confusing because it’s a broad church on motives, means etc and it’s all too multi-layered for him?

Most of the sceptics have had a journey through self-research and as things evolved. We might not all agree on every precise aspect but the sceptic position was strong from day 1.

Couldn’t he even recognise the obvious argument then of disproportionate lockdowns and science guesswork from governments and followed the other threads from there?

It was all here. Perhaps he only reads his own articles.

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 12, 2021 7:51 PM
Reply to  Loverat

Philip is one of the mainstream Left I suppose i.e. he knows his Marx which is fine by me. But when the mighty covid fell, he took up an odd position in that he attempted to act as a kind of “middle voice” in the “covid war” or, to be more precise, although he always held to the covid tale, he wanted to give “the other side” some space too. But he seems to me to have totally misunderstood the implication of the sceptical view i.e. the implication that the media have actually manufactured this crisis. And so, to argue over whether the virus is real, or the specific extent to which it is real, is irrelevant. The point is that the media is misrepresenting it – and doing so quite deliberately. In short, the media is giving us a scam, a con, a hoax. Philip hates all these words.… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 13, 2021 7:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And since the roots of my old Left partisan feeling go deep, I have revisited the Philip Roddis site a few times to see if I can “find a way in”. I even drafted six or more comments to post there but always gave up. Philip himself has modified his view and now shows a vague glimmer of suspicion that all is not as it seems. But his BTL lot? The same by-the-numbers tropes: “Conspiracy nuts? Phew what a bunch of loonies!” (Pavlovian spasm) “Incorrect application of materialist principles!” (Waffle to cover rejection of “conspiracy”) “Lazy thinkers who haven’t read all three volumes of Capital to see the correct complexity of the yadda yadda” (echoing Lenin’s jaw dropping note: “One cannot understand Marx’s Capital and in particular its first chapter without having studied the whole of Hegel’s Logic.” Good luck with that!) “Covid sceptics? Fuckin’ Right Wingers and anti-Semites!” (Manufactured… Read more »

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
Feb 12, 2021 7:31 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It sounds like – based on your comment – Rodis suffers, like many other, from the “failure of imagination” expressed by David Graeber after the 2011 Occupy movement failed to accomplish anything lasting. My 2 cents as to the underlying reasons: Most people misunderstand money and value. The touted Great Reset, for example, isn’t about being twice as rich as before – especially when you already have more money that you really know what to do with – it’s about maintaining/preserving a particular hierarchical dynamic at a very deep bifurcation point in human history. Much of the Great Reset / Technocracy analysis pertaining to automation and technological unemployment is right on the nose. Put in as pithy terms as possible: humans no longer need each other economically as we once did. And this need, frail as it is, has been kept on artificial life support for quite some time. Add… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 12, 2021 8:21 PM
Reply to  Toby Russell

You give these people far more credit than they deserve. Both the controllers, who historically are psychopathic eugenicists with a penchant for manufacturing wars, genocide and misery, while managing a global crime cartel and their lackeys in the media and academia who grovel to the banker-oligarch class, are soulless and narcissistic.

They believe they are keeping the great unwashed in line due to their falsely perceived moral and intellectual superiority. How their function differs from a Capo at a concentration camp, I fail to see.

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
Feb 13, 2021 2:55 AM
Reply to  Researcher

I’m not sure what you mean. Whether clinically psychopathic or otherwise on the narcissistic-sociopathic-psychopathic spectrum, or not, the ‘elites’ have accomplished something incredible … incredibly horrible but incredible nonetheless. We’ve been watching in awe and discussing it hotly for almost a year already and there’s no end in sight yet. To my mind this is an historical precedent. We are fools if we underestimate their destructive power.

That said, their path must be doomed to failure as all rampant control-freakery is; such is always and only anti-life. The question in my mind revolves around how much damage is done and how long it takes for humanity as a whole to make itself, let’s say ‘immune’ to their magic spells and various other machinations. We might well fail at this for quite a while yet; we are so deeply divided and so easily triggered to wild emotionality.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 13, 2021 4:33 AM
Reply to  Toby Russell

They are far from elite and they have accomplished nothing except conning everyone through centuries of lies, stealing nearly all the wealth and resources of the world, culminating in this global virus fraud. It is “they” who are falling for the lies, not “we”. A group of people, probably about 60-70% who believe in whatever their television tells them. There is no hope for those people. They simply obey in order to avoid thinking and taking any responsibility. Unfortunately, it is not an historical precedent. The first and second world wars were completely staged. The religions of the world are all allegories used to deceive and enslave. The monetary system and laws are a complete con and the corporate structures of ownership of the courts, government agencies and the central banks are carefully hidden. Democracy is completely fake, germ theory doesn’t pass any evidence based tests. Communism was a scam… Read more »

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
Feb 13, 2021 7:53 AM
Reply to  Researcher

The “nothing” you list is nonetheless impressive, albeit in the negative or horrific sense. And by “historical precedent” I did not mean to say it’s the first time lies and propaganda have been practiced on nations’ peoples; that is as old as civilisation. It’s the nature of the enemy now cast as each citizen on earth in the form a potential biohazard combined with global media/internet censorship and global tyranny turning criticism into “domestic terrorism”. My point is that it’s not good tactics to underestimate the threat, just as it’s poor tactics to feel powerless in the face of the challenges ahead.

We are in agreement for the most part, Researcher. I’m confused by your tone, which I’m reading as aggressive towards me and I can’t see why. Perhaps I misread you…

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 13, 2021 10:59 AM
Reply to  Toby Russell

No aggression towards you whatsoever. In fact I read your article the other day and was impressed. I just have a different perspective when it comes to the group who are perpetrating the frauds. I have no admiration for them whatsoever, but contempt.

One has to acknowledge the extent of the problem to create remediation. Perhaps if people understood how far back the problem goes, then they can see that it is baked into the system. So that being the case I also think that because the system of world governance and law has become the cage for us all that the solution is simply allowing everyone to understand the level of fraud and deception, so we can address and end the entirety of the criminality through common law which is the law of the land and usurps maritime law and governments.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 13, 2021 9:03 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Almost entirely agreed.

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 12, 2021 10:31 PM
Reply to  Toby Russell

Mention of The Great Reset brings up another plank in the mind manipulation: the swaying of minds against a theory by simply referring to it with a kind of verbal eye rolling. It’s basically the old “conspiracy theory” sneer but done more cunningly. You basically come right out and say it and they repeat it mockingly e.g. take the 9/11 controlled demolition angle. Imagine you are met with the reponse: “Oh I suppose you’ll say the collapse of buildings in New York was controlled demolition?” You say, “Well yes.” They say, “Because it looks like controlled demolition?” (snort of derision) You say, “Again, yes” They say, “Because it couldn’t be anything else?” You: “Yes” Them: (snort of derision) And that astonishingly is their whole argument i.e. a snort of derision. So you can recount the entire theory and they repeat it but “negate” it by snorting! I see similar treatment… Read more »

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
Feb 13, 2021 3:02 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Indeed. The cognitive dissonance strikes one almost dumb. It reminds me of the Terry Pratchett novels involving Death; ordinary people simply refuse to see him moving among them, and their refusal is indefinitely fuelled by their terror as a kind of perpetual-motion machine. With c19 it’s remarkably similar.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Feb 12, 2021 3:46 PM

UK Column News – 12th February 2021 PART ONE RNA VACCINES MAY PROMPT PRION FORMATION IN BODY RISKS INCLUDE CJD, ALZHEIMERS AND EVENTUAL DEATH Please read new research posted below as PART TWO. VACCINE PASSPORTS ON THE WAY TO ‘SAVE’ YOUR HOLS PM SAYS 2 COVID JABS COULD ‘ALLOW’ YOU TO TRAVEL Talks denied early this week are now admitted: IATA cites ‘fruitful’ talks about vax app for travellers. Covid ‘O’ committee will decide. BILDERBERG MEMBER, FORMER MINISTER, CALLS FOR COERCION OVERRIDES VACCINE MINISTER – IF GOV DOESN’T ACT, BIZ WILL George Osborne, former gov minister, Bilderberger, editor of Evening Standard: To lead a normal life you’ll need a Covid passport: here’s why. “But what if you needed a passport to travel around your own country? What if you needed one to apply for a job, or send your child to school, or even go to a restaurant or cinema?… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Feb 12, 2021 4:06 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

OFFICE FOR NATIONAL STATISTICS SEES GROWTH IN UK ECONOMY BANK OF ENGLAND INSISTS CORNER HAS BEEN TURNED ONS says economy fell -2.3% in Nov, jumped +1.2% in Dec Dec is still -6.3% below levels seen in Feb 2020 (Nov was -7.4%) GDP grew +1% in the fourth quarter Oct to Dec 2020, after +16.1% in Q3. That means the economy contracted 9.9% in 2020. Conveniently just avoiding a fall of 10% which is one definition of depression. And by avoiding two quarters of negative growth the UK’s not even in recession. Believe that and you’ll believe anything. Daily Mail: Britain is ready to fire on all cylinders after a year to forget, writes Bank of England Chief Economist Ch economist Andy Haldane claims “pent up financial energy ready to be released like a coiled spring,” and claims vaccine rollout means risk of death has “probably halved” and by end of… Read more »

Waldorf
Waldorf
Feb 12, 2021 6:47 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I thought Britain had had the worst drop since the South Sea Bubble, which Covid hysteria resembles in many ways.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Feb 12, 2021 6:58 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

1700-something. But the Bank of England and the Office for National Statistics are massaging the numbers…

Not least because they don’t account for the devaluation of the pound. In 2008 for example, sterling lost at least 10%… if you acknowledge that, the UK was clearly in depression.

Now it’s so much worse. Each and every metric is manipulated. Use your eyes. They’re more accurate than any statistic. Watch the movie The Big Short — to see how eyes beat models.

EDITH
EDITH
Feb 12, 2021 9:22 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

i found the tiny bit about how there is an agreement that basically forces countries to go lock step with major announcements……to me that explains one reason why they have all been so keen to do it in unison…. plus i am having suspicious thoughts that perhaps these spending govts with huge deficits may be under the pump from the big central bank mob that no more money unless they toe the pharma line? thoughts Moneycircus?

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 13, 2021 10:36 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Most vulnerable”: The jab was not tested on the old or the pregnant. In fact, not even on animals. In fact, the trials have not ended. So, jabbing children is sick.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Feb 12, 2021 3:42 PM

As most of us know on this blog, the virus hoax is a pretext for a “shock and awe” transformation of the entire planet into a techno-fascist neofeudal dystopia with the former middle class joining the chronically poor into serf status. Our Owners, in their demonic cleverness, have raised the prospect that this “virus” is a bioweapon, but the truth is obvious that the real bioweapons are the mRNA vaccines, which I refer to as lethal gene therapy. It is so fucking obvious that anyone who cannot see it is either mind controlled or has an IQ below room temperature (in Fahrenheit – perhaps in Celsius as well 🙂 Excellent article but the Cult Covidians are not open to facts. Now the NY Times has come out with an editorial that the Biden administration should establish a Ministry of Truth. I hope to gain employment there operating the memory hole.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Feb 12, 2021 3:38 PM

Well… Here’s a better short article! The CDC has issued a reminder that just because people get the vaccine, that doesn’t mean they should go outside, experience human interaction, or have any kind of joy or happiness in their lives ever again.“We noticed people were getting the vaccine and then just assuming because vaccines are designed to make people immune to viruses that they are immune to the virus. Then, they were doing crazy things like going outside, interacting with other people, and being happy,” said a CDC spokesperson. “And all of this because doctors and scientists kept pushing the vaccine as though it were a cure-all solution that would make you immune to the virus. Well, that view is now considered anti-SCIENCE. And if you disagree with SCIENCE, you are literally murdering grandma. Literally. Like with a baseball bat.”The newly revised guidelines indicate that people who have not yet… Read more »

Waldorf
Waldorf
Feb 12, 2021 6:48 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

She seems to be coping very well without clothes, despite the current weather…

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Feb 12, 2021 9:00 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

Rolls of toilet paper a nice touch! 😀

Me worry?
Me worry?
Feb 12, 2021 3:26 PM

And let’s not forget that the governments are happy to forget to mention that their total ‘covid’ deaths are being tallied in the middle of a second influenza season.

October
October
Feb 12, 2021 3:34 PM
Reply to  Me worry?

Didn’t you know? All strains of influenza have now been eradicated. Here is the WHO flu chart for today:
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Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Feb 12, 2021 3:52 PM
Reply to  October

They say it is because of the MASKS and HAND HYGIENE and HOUSE SELF-ARREST… You know, the good stuff!

Hell, I believe it is about time we start a Global Suicide in order to exterminate the uman animal so that no more “PANDEMICS” will ever hurt us.

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 4:33 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

Don’t worry, I’m already on it. It happens to be delegated involuntary suicide, btw. Many politicians, for instance, have been kind enough to apply. And with enough politician and “expert” suicides, invariably herd immunity will be achieved.

They’ll get the message soon enough.

John the First
John the First
Feb 12, 2021 10:46 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

Yeah, they also say that the people haven’t been applying the policies good enough, therefor COVID allegedly has spread unnecessarily… They make up arguments like a priest has an explanation just how it comes in handy. Believers buy into almost anything. Just avoid to mention these two things at the same time.

Maxwell
Maxwell
Feb 12, 2021 2:57 PM

Lockdowns are social control- period.

Lockdowns are physical, mental and psychological abuse.
Lockdowns cost human lives.
Lockdowns cause suffering.
Lockdowns cause suicides.
Lockdowns harm children.
Lockdowns cause mass global poverty, starvation and deaths.

Lockdowns are crimes against humanity and every single public leader who supports them should be treated as a criminal and every single person who advocates for them is a collaborator.

Howard
Howard
Feb 12, 2021 3:33 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

For a time I was thinking maybe this is not as bad for children as we think – because children are far more resilient than adults.

Then it occurred to me, with the constant emphasis on lockdowns likely becoming a way of life from here on out, that of all people it’s the children who can look forward to nothing but lockdowns for the rest of their lives.

Children barely had a taste of what it’s like to be a living being; now that’s being taken away from them so the psychopaths can increase their wealth and power.

There are no words to adequately describe what kind of fate these psychopaths should have to endure. Dante’s lowest rung in hell is far too good for them.

Watt
Watt
Feb 12, 2021 6:21 PM
Reply to  Howard

My feelings exactly. The lives of present day children are being destroyed before they’ve begun.This fact does tend to fuel my white hot, incandescent anger at these satanic demons.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Feb 13, 2021 4:56 AM
Reply to  Howard

Lock downs and masks are very bad for children. Normal childhoods are being destroyed.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 13, 2021 10:59 AM
Reply to  Howard

If a child has been living in deprivation or had elders who underwent deprivation, it may have more common sense, be tougher, and reccover. However, the majority of children have been growing up immpersed in make-believe capitalist propaganda. Now, they are even made to feel guilty for their aged relatives falling ill. Though practically immune, they are terrorised daily.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Feb 12, 2021 6:25 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

For the past year I have felt like I in an endless repeat of the song White Rabbit with one pill making me larger and one pill making me small and the one that mother gives me does nothing at all. I do not get why people are so deranged over a damn cold virus

Frank G L
Frank G L
Feb 12, 2021 7:12 PM

“I do not get why people are so deranged over a damn cold virus

Probably because they believe such a thing exists…so, they were fucked even before that.

Kalen
Kalen
Feb 12, 2021 10:22 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Foucault analyzed historical documentation of medieval Black Death plague where hard lockdowns were 99.9% of all responses to plague by authorities in regards to population while elites escaped lockdowns in 99% of cases moving to isolated, disease free rural estates with ample food supplies and open spaces with plenty exposure to sun. it was these elites, frolicking in the country side who pushed medical authorities thry controlled into extreme, drastic cruel measures of effective imprisonment, confinement under threat of death penalty healthy with sick but that did not much contributed to total death count as according to raw data collected that time about 90% of total official death count at the end of plague were not caused by Black Death at all but resulted in malnutrition, depression or other diseases caused likely by suppression of immune system (just by observing obvious signs of disease) From that time, learning Black Death… Read more »

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Feb 12, 2021 2:47 PM

OSLO, Norway – Norway said Monday no link had been established between Pfizer-BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine and post-vaccination deaths in the country, but recommended doctors consider the overall health of the most frail before giving them the jab

The second half of the sentence seems to read differently than the first

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Feb 12, 2021 2:55 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

”Norway said Monday that no link had been established between Pfizer-BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine and post-vaccination death in the country…”

In the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davies – a defendant during the The Profumo affair which was one of the largest political scandals in twentieth-century British politics – ”Well they would, wouldn’t they.”

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Feb 12, 2021 9:31 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

India insisted on safety testing for the Pfizer jab before giving them the go-ahead. Pfizer pulled their request – saying they’d be back after more threats and World Bank squeeze research

S Cooper
S Cooper
Feb 12, 2021 3:30 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Doc Billy Eugenics and those mass murdering psychos need to go, before they mass murder again.”
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“Get out the Rope.”

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Feb 12, 2021 2:42 PM

Can I get my transhumanist reset on the National Health? I am so looking forward to it.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 12, 2021 4:44 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

The telemedical future is going to be with us soon and it’s going to be great! No more seeing a real human being!! At best some poor sod in Bangladesh and at worst some algorithm can decide what pharma to give you and dispatch it forthwith.

It’s so good to know this must all take place digitally so data can be generated for hedge funds to gamble on. Fostering paranoia about human contact will get many people to welcome this as if it’s being done in their interests.

EDITH
EDITH
Feb 12, 2021 9:28 PM
Reply to  Edwige

oh but young Melissa G has all this under control……watch her toss of the head……we have to have equality in health care and save the world poor don’t you know you naughty people…….we only have good intentions……..we have to be ready for future pandemics etc etc…….rah rah…..
i suspect meglamania has taken hold in a few places….

Watt
Watt
Feb 12, 2021 6:22 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

National Health?? That rings a faint bell!

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Feb 12, 2021 2:40 PM

“We need to wake up and work to fix this.” Ya, right. Great solution. A “solution” recommended about a million times every day…

“Waking up” will not prevent military police from knocking at civilian doors and forcing citizens to join an asylum…

Members of the military/police are the ones who need to “wake up”. They need to mutiny against orders, and stop saying: Yes Sir! The rest is bad theater for neurotics.